The Anchormen Show EP 131 - Man vs. Machine： The Great A.I. Debate w⧸ David Pollack
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On this week's episode of the Anchor.fm Podcast, Pearson Sharp and Matt Gaetz discuss the Texas primary results and the impact they have on the landscape of the Republican primary election. Plus, the guys discuss the impact of the Trump endorsement and whether or not it will have a positive impact on the 2020 election.
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Now, it's time for the Anchorman Podcast with Matt Gaetz and Pearson Sharp.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Anchorman Show.
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I'm Matt Gaetz, host of the Matt Gaetz Show here on One America News.
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and we are back in the san diego studios i finally got my crew back folks have been sick
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everywhere i feel like whether it is the west coast or out east it's been the crud it's been
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folks missing work but now i've got i've got everybody back so when i find out that my friends
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We have so much to go through, but I want to start with the big results in the Texas primaries.
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Ken Paxton, the attorney general, defeats incumbent sitting Senator John Cornyn.
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Pearson, you have spent years complaining that these Republican senators have not been in the battle enough.
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Ken Paxton undeniably tip of the spear as an attorney general on election integrity, on the border, on consumer protection.
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What is this victory of Ken Paxton over establishment hack John Cornyn mean for the movement?
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It's clear that MAGA still holds sway. MAGA is where it's at.
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So far this year, I think 119 of Trump's endorsements have succeeded and zero have lost.
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There was the one guy who had the aide who he was having the affair with who lit herself on fire.
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I think you got to give, I think that's under any golf rule, that's a mulligan.
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Every Republican candidate Trump endorsed in a completed 2026 primary so far has won.
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118 endorsements in GOP primaries, 118 wins, zero losses.
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That's 101 House races, nine Senate races, plus eight gubernatorial races.
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we had Andy Barr filling in for Mitch McConnell now in Kentucky that's phenomenal an upgrade yeah
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that's it you know arguably you have a live person replacing a dead person so that's definitely a
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win uh Louisiana we had Julia Letlow beating Bill Cassidy that's definitely a win on upgrade
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finally got rid of that guy uh Barry Moore in Alabama and of course Barry Moore is incredible
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of the group you just mentioned like Barry Moore is the guy you would say that that is our our
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line, our champion in the Senate. But Ken Paxton will absolutely be a beast. Thank God we got
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read John Cornyn. That was a long time coming. What I draw out of that answer and what I want
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to see if David agrees with is you saying this was a grassroots flex. Yeah, absolutely.
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Was it that or was it just the lesson we learned over and over again that there is no force in
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American politics more powerful than the Trump endorsement? Well, we know that to be true. And
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what's so interesting about this is if you're on social media, right, if you're on X, everybody's
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telling you that there's this big division in MAGA, right? Oh, it's gas prices. It's the world
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is collapsing because, you know, whatever. So there's a big division. But yet all the MAGA
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candidates are winning in the primaries. They're telling you that there's an enthusiasm gap. Oh,
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Trump voters aren't excited. The base is weak. The Democrats all the enthusiasm. Well, early voting
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has record numbers. Republicans are turning out. And who are Republicans voting for? The Trump
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candidates. So the enthusiasm is there for Trump candidates. I think the Trump endorsement still
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carries weight, but even more so than this, I think MAGA carries weight because, you know,
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you have candidates that are not necessarily Trump endorsed. You have Beau French, for example.
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He was the MAGA candidate and he didn't have Trump's endorsement, but yet he still beat an
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incumbent in Texas. And then you also have the Chip Roy race with Mace. Chip Roy wasn't Trump
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endorsed i don't think right no right trump did not endorse right he endorsed in that race but
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yet though he called himself maga maze maga maze won so mike collins in georgia another perfect
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example of even in the absence of a direct endorsement a candidate that runs as a pure
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maga adjacent yeah yeah so but but but then that does that is that a different argument that
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pearson's making pearson's making the argument this is the grassroots flex you seem to be making
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the argument listen this this was what we've what we've consistently seen trump endorses that
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person no i think it is a grassroots flex because and i think it's a combo i think the grassroots
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are motivated to show up now trump's base is grassroots and i think we talked about this on
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a few episodes ago these are guys who will show up at a library a polling station and bring their
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own flags make their own trump signs i mean that is as grassroots as grassroots gets it's i don't
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need money to organize people these people are willing to do it because they love trump that
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much what we've seen is when trump is not at the top of the ticket that enthusiasm that grassroots
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organizational efforts it just doesn't turn up however in a year where save america act is stalled
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in the senate because john thune just can't get the votes and a year where you have massey saying
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well i'm not going to vote for the big beautiful bill in a year where you have cornyn who what
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voted for impeachment i remember something that president trump wanted that cornyn wouldn't
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support well yeah well and you know what that is why that ladies and gentlemen the reason why he
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lost is because he did not support this man for attorney general that is it print it uh i'm i
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have another rant here i have another rant on this race okay there was something going on behind the
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scenes where you had a lot of the consultancy class trying to get president trump to endorse
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Cornyn. And in fact, there was a leak that that was being strongly considered. And that leak was,
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I'm sure, put out by people who were self-interested, right, in trying to get it in the ecosystem
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Trump was leaning toward Cornyn. And then what you saw was a whole lot of reaction to that. We
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had a good amount of it on our show from the attorney general himself, explaining what six
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more years of John Cornyn in the Senate would look like, and how it would be an assault on this
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agenda and this legacy and so you then had uh the consultant class saying all that matters is
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electability all that matters is cornyn is more electable than paxton because we think paxton's a
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bad guy he was the victim of some pretty terrible weaponization in my view paxton was and now
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some of those same folks in the consultant class are calling me and wearing me out because i was
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Paxton back are saying, well, I guess you've got what you want, Matt, the least electable
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candidate in Ken Paxton. Look at what you've done. We could have had John Cornyn. He would
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have sailed through with an easy victory. And you had Ken Paxton on your program all
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the time. You were doing everything you could to sway the endorsement, to sway the Texas
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electorate because you wanted Paxton. And now we have a guy who might not win the general
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election. And here's my message back to those consultants. You're the one who put the seed in
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play when you spent $130 million against our ultimate nominee. When Ken Paxton entered this
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race for the United States Senate, he was going to win it. And when Donald Trump endorsed him,
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that became a certainty. And yet still, negative ad after negative ad. And so we did this to
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ourselves. If Ken Paxton is in a worse position than you might otherwise expect a Republican
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nominee in the united states senate to be in that is not the fault of the grassroots and that is not
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the fault of ken paxton or ken paxton supporters that is the fault of the john cornyn supporters
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who spent more than a hundred million dollars dogging a republican you know where that would
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have been helpful defining graham plattner in maine yep as as the total woketopian that he is
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you know where that would have been helpful reminding ohio voters uh in your home state
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Pearson, why they didn't vote for Sherrod Brown in the last election, but we spent it attacking
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our own guy. And so if for whatever reason Ken Paxton is not elected, that failure will be on
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John Cornyn and on his supporters and precisely how they ran this campaign. If you're John Cornyn
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and you've been in the Senate that long, you should spend that money talking about your own
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record. And I wouldn't have even minded that, but they did it trashing the guy that we ultimately
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now ride into the general election that's how they operate this is the establishment defending
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itself 100 they have a candidate they know is their operative just like mitch mcconnell just
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like john thune they're writing that out they hate trump they want to stab him in the back
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they got a guy who can do it and ken paxton's not that guy so who are they going to support
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well i look at it this way um i think they would rather have a democrat win yeah like
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But the other side of this is – and the interesting thing is the Van Jones last night on CNN was using their talking points against Paxton, saying, oh, we need somebody with a different set of morals.
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Like suggesting that Cornyn was this great guy and Paxton's flawed.
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There's all kinds of really interesting things coming out.
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about the democrat candidate and we'll see if that same set of standards applies that yeah oh
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the vegan who thinks that god is non-binary exactly in texas yeah yeah i don't think texas
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supporters yeah you know just like the homes and the stakes god is big in texas too and i don't
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think that's gonna go over very well with the vote i am expecting the most blistering talarico
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takedowns on david pollock prime time at 7 p.m uh eastern four o'clock pacific on one america
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they're starting tomorrow all right they're starting tomorrow well i i we are we are here
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And that was because of this redistricting, right?
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Texas puts Democrat incumbents into the same district.
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You get a freshman kind of upstart against a long-serving Al Green.
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All right, so other areas where we've been disappointed by Republicans in redistricting, the deep south, South Carolina.
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All right, Pearson, walk us through what's happening.
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Just stabbed Trump in the back and stabbed the voters in the back.
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took no notice of what happened in Indiana,
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no notice of all the other wins that Trump has had
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and decided, nope, we're going to be little wimps
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I am emotionally drained covering this redistricting.
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We've both been talking about it a lot on our shows.
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The court there upheld Florida's redistricting.
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I think that got us, like, what, six seats or something?
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The one seat in South Carolina, I think I'm willing to trade one seat
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to replace 13 Rhino state senators in South Carolina.
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Right, and I think the more these guys stand up to the grassroots MAGA base and get kicked out,
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I think the more pressure that puts on some of these guys in the Senate who are thinking twice about whether they want to support Trump's agenda.
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These South Carolina Republicans are operating under the old rules, under the old system.
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They don't understand that the paradigm has shifted.
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Well, yeah, look, it just seems like such a high price to pay for the cleansing.
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Like, I wish the way we could cleanse some of these goons is, like, the way they take a vote on an immigration issue or something,
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rather than having to surrender what would otherwise be pretty high ground on redistricting going into the midterm election.
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The Pope, making big news over the weekend, has this message that he offers on the intersection of humanity and AI.
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I thought it was really important, actually, in the AI conversation that we're having in this country and globally.
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The official intelligence needs to be disarmed, freed from logics that turn it into an instrument of domination, exclusion and death.
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Like nuclear energy, it must be at the service of all and of the common good.
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Decisions about technology must never be separated from conscience and responsibility.
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Only together, those who design systems and those affected by them,
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richer countries and poorer ones, institutions and individuals,
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will we be able to build a future, not for a privileged few,
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pearson what's your reaction to the message from his holiness i've been pretty uh pretty against a
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lot of what the pope has done so far he seemed to be pretty woke and kind of a globalist and
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some troubling history with protecting uh pedophiles in the past but i will say i agree with
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him on this i think ai is an existential threat to humanity and i think that him taking this
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position shows that, uh, there are some people high up in leadership positions that understand
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how dangerous it is. And I liked his comparison to the tower of Babel. I think that's quite apt
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because you have, you have humanity trying to be God in a sense, trying to create something that
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I think in the end is going to end up destroying us. And I don't like the implications. I think
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also his his his primary argument against it where it is taking us away from spirituality and
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taking us away from our humanity is one of the critical aspects that we need to understand about
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this it's ai is an easy answer to a lot of things um but easy answers aren't really what we should
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be shooting for and when you start looking for answers from the machine you stop looking for
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answers from god and i think that's the real danger we face here do you feel the same way
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about calculators oh my god i was gonna say the same thing i literally that was about to come out
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of my mouth yeah but a calculator doesn't doesn't you sit there and ask it questions about what's my
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purpose in life or you don't date your calculator you know you don't treat it like a sentient being
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you can make it say hello it's yeah well there's different levels of tools you know uh there's
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different levels of tools and i think humanity has been abusing this tool and we're only we're
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in the nation stages of ai who knows where it's going to be in five years it's grown so much in
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one year do you think ai will cause wars well it could it could and we have some evidence that it
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might already have or at least have assisted in them because i i don't mean like it's used in the
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weapons pearson i mean no i understand it is the thrust of the conflict yeah there was a report
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that said that uh claude was instrumental in the operation in venezuela and as far as the planning
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and let them talk and they invented their own language
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so we had to hit the burn button and shut them down
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but there's been other instances where it's escaped confinement
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Well, in a simulation, it read emails that an executive was both having an affair and planning to shut down Claude.
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And so then it self-generated an email to that executive saying that if they did not cancel the shutdown of the system, they would notify their wife and board of the fictitious affair.
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So I think that's a clear danger that, you know, this is the minor level.
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This is the most basic kind of threat that we can imagine.
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All right, David Pollack, your response to the Pope?
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I think if people have information and you don't want them to have information,
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I mean, is he worried that people are going to find answers that he doesn't like?
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I mean, why should I trust the Pope when clearly the Pope has a bias?
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they have humans built a nuclear bomb what are we worried about that ai is going to outsmart us
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i i think if ai can help well yes that is exactly the fear that is the worry but and then what
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right so what ai can do is help cure cancer what ai can do is help us explore vast expanses of the
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universe that we haven't even been able to to fathom right ai is the inevitable evolution of
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man now you can call that the devil and i'm sure people watching will be like well that is the
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definition of the devil maybe but i mean god created man maybe man was intended to create ai
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i don't know but i at least have the title of our episode why should i listen to the pope dash david
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pollock i look why should you listen to this pope honestly does he come off as somebody that's
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preaching the gospel or does it come off somebody has an agenda and what is what is the threat of
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it i get it ai you got to put guardrails on it we worried about what we don't understand but here's
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It's the same argument we've heard against nuclear power. You mentioned nuclear
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go out. We shouldn't have nuclear power. We should instead
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all the energy we need with a little bit of science.
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And what are the secrets to the science? It could be
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Should we go back to the Stone Age just to prevent
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guns or weapons? I don't think that's what he's saying,
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the 50s. What is the fear? Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
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What is the Pope's issue with AI? It's the devil?
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the devil. That we're not thinking for ourselves.
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That we're not using our own... They said the same thing about Elvis
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by something else, right? Everything we think we
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There's influence, and then there's thinking for you.
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There's typing in, what should I do about this?
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And then it gives you an answer, and then you do that without reflection.
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How is that different from opening up the encyclopedia and saying, who writes the encyclopedia?
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Then you're aggregating information, and you're making an informed decision.
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What is a better source of information, aggregating it from multiple sources
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or aggregating it from one curated source created by people who want you to think that that is the only reality?
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Every book is created by somebody with an agenda.
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I think it's safer to pull information from the encyclopedia
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and think for yourself and perform critical thinking,
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which when you offshore your own ability to think,
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How does using AI substitute your ability to think?
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You ask it a question, and it gives you an answer,
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and you use that answer without considering it.
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And do you say, tell me what to think about this?
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Or do you say, get me information on the Pope talking about the dangers of AI?
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There are, I think there are, I'm not advocating against all AI.
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I think it can be very helpful, but I think it would also be extremely abused.
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But like everything, guns, that's the same argument for guns.
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So, like, if there are predictions that on the path we are headed around some of the consternation here, people could be violently attacking AI data centers when jobs are wiped out, when communities are wiped out.
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Well, I mean, look, I think it's very culturally significant that these people are getting booed off the stage at these commencement addresses.
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The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution.
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I think that people, especially young people, instinctively feel that there's something wrong about this replacement that we're seeing in not only jobs, but in capabilities, in manufacturing, in, I mean, side topic just a second, the AI data center they're putting in Utah, you know, we talk about global warming, people being upset about that.
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the AI data center they're putting in Utah puts out the equivalent heat of 26 nuclear bombs going
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off in a single day, every day. That seems high, Pearson. No, absolutely. We can, we can pull up
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the article and we'll put it on screen every day. So this is, you know, there are so many issues
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of this, but I think that people recognize a fundamental disconnect in the lack of humanity
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that's behind this, this rise of AI. You know, people turn to AI for dating, you know, they're
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lonely and it just increases loneliness epidemics it is sad but there's this malaise in our society
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that has allowed this one to rise part of dating if i'm doing it with an ai yeah did you imagine
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ai dating in your ai because you know how it tries to like it tries to validate your biases and you'd
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be like what should i have for dinner what do you want for dinner well ai i'm asking you well i would
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support whatever you want it'd be the same conversation you have with a real woman yeah
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like dating a beta you know what i'm saying i'll support whatever you decide david no no i want
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you to tell me what you have for dinner well you should give me some feedback on what you'd like
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there's just a lack of humanity in this and it's unsettling and it doesn't feel good to a lot of
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the people i think it's going to be the jobs thing i actually think it's a bit i think when
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you have thousands of people that believe they were going to enter the workforce with their tech
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jobs with their coding jobs even manual labor type jobs and uh they're not available like these
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white collar jobs are going away, those people are going to demand something else. And it leads us
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to another one of the headlines that emerged this week. New poll spells disaster for America's
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future as younger voters embrace socialism. I wonder if these are connected. I wonder if it is
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connected that young people now look at the current system and what it has available for them
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and they are exploring alternatives even if those alternatives are really bad and dangerous and
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and counterproductive and you know you hand it to the democrats they at least i mean they have a
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message going into the midterms which is the mizwan mamdani message this is not gonna you're
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not gonna hear like the abigail spamburger message going into these midterms it's gonna be like
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a a different flavors of democratic socialism uh i'm worried it could be compelling are you well
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Well, if I may, this goes back to what you were saying before with AI, is that where you get the information from and look at the product of public education and universities turning kids into socialists, that they're booing their own professors.
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And again, they're being programmed with this information on their own.
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If anything, AI might actually substitute some of the biased thinking and make them be able to see that, okay, socialism may not be great.
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I think the Raul Castro indictment is very interesting considering the next elections coming in because what narrative is being created now?
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He was imprisoned in Castro's prisons for 19 years.
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I said, tell me what conditions in prison were like.
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And he said, I don't want to talk about my experience.
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He says, I want to talk about the horrors of socialism because look what's happening here in the United States.
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I want to warn the American people that socialism isn't what they're selling.
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what it is is prisons and starving people we can't get our own food we're not allowed to farm
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we're not allowed to fish he's warning people socialism so this indictment of raul castro
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is a very interesting way for people to sort of reignite this because when we were younger matt
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we used to have these discussions that communism was bad right you were like you can't even pick
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your job you can't go and get your food communism was bad socialism was bad democrats were so afraid
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to embrace communism that they created new words for it they called it progressivism they just made
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up stuff and now they're just straight up saying they're democratic socialist or socialist because
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now kids are being taught communism socialism is good so now we have this other argument and look
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at this bad guy he might be 90 we've indicted him because he's made people he's murdered people he
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shot down planes of people so desperate to leave communism that they were willing to float across
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the florida straits with out with sharks in the middle of the night and then uh so desperate that
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they're willing to go and get shot down to save their brothers this is the perfect setup for the
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November election because we're going to hear the AOCs.
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There's other candidates around the country who are running as open socialists now.
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So, yes, I do believe that socialism is in the minds of these kids.
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They've been taught that by their communist professors that have been hiding in our universities
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So at the end, I think now we have a perfect two-solution option for people.
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Do you want what people are escaping from in Cuba?
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by the way they're broke already and they can't meet their budget i think it's a beautiful sort
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of dichotomy the problem is they're not they're not as scared by what's happening in cuba when
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they see in their own town people getting laid off from jobs ai gobbling up white collar
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opportunities and there are a lot of young people who look at capitalism and say there just isn't
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a lot there for me um based on you know the uh the career i have and it's it's replacement factor
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I mean, you have young people today who cannot buy a house.
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I think the median entry age to buying a house is like 40 years old now, which is insane.
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And then how many years do you have left to pay off that mortgage?
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Like, if it takes you so long to build up the capital for a down payment, then you start to think, well, how long am I going to work to just be able to retire?
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Well, there was another story that came out that said one of the biggest generations now that has roommates are baby boomers.
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Well, that was the biggest generation that's picking up roommates now is baby boomers.
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So I think the biggest issue, though, is that the young people today see a lack of opportunity.
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The jobs, the houses, the money, the inflation, the gas, the food, everything seems to be much, much worse than it was 10 years ago for their parents.
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Well, capitalism, because that's what I was taught in school.
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Well, or because that's what I see in my circumstances around me that aren't doing enough.
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Like, I don't think it's enough to just be like, well, they're learning it from the liberal schools.
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I think that David's right that the antidote to this is just an aggressive exposure to what socialism has done in these places.
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But I also think there has to be an uplifting and compelling message about free markets and a free economy that isn't, you know, get ready for the 26 times heat nuclear data center in your neighborhood.
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They need something that's tangible that benefits them that they can see, oh, yeah, no, this is this is this is positive.
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because you know i think one of the greatest examples and and lessons of socialism versus
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capitalism is when the berlin wall fell who fled where you know that that says everything and
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there are so many people i've i've been to a lot of communist countries former communist countries
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and talked to the people who lived there you were in one a few months ago yeah and the people there
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all just talk about the horrors and and how terrible it was and does the ravages of communism
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on their lives and the people here don't get that message well and they don't hear about it it's the
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message though i mean and just the fact that we're having this conversation homes are unaffordable
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you know what jobs are they going to be able to do they're going to want we don't have anybody
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and this is university's fault we don't have anybody showing american kids the opportunities
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that exist in america because look how many kids from foreign countries want to come here
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Chinese, Indians. We get all upset about importing labor, but they want to come to the United States
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because they see the opportunity here. If you look at Miami, how many Cuban exiles came to
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Miami and started businesses? There's so many entrepreneurs because they have guns and
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businesses because they couldn't have either in Cuba. And so what American students see,
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they want jobs because that's what they're taught in school. There's not, you need to go to college
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so you can get a good job. Instead, we need to be teaching kids. And this is why I like the
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expansion of vocational programs and not stigmatizing vocational programs. There's
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nothing embarrassing about being a plumber, an electrician, or a mechanic. These guys are all
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the millionaires now. Everyone who's broke are the ones who borrowed $100,000, $200,000 to go
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to a university to get out and be like, what can I do with my environmental studies degree?
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And this is what's happening is we need to reimagine education. We need to train our
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young people how to be entrepreneurs, not train them how to walk in line with their finger over
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their mouth to conform and then go and look for a job upon graduation. We need to teach them how
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look for opportunities how to build like how to build right i mean that is the uplifting
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message i think for capitalism that's the the case for capitalism is you can build stuff and
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the barrier to building transformational things has never been lower in all of human history
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because of an observation please um i'm working on a documentary about oan's founder robert herring
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and i think part of that applies right now because i think that one issue we might have is that we're
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an Instagram generation. And I think people in America are spoiled. Yeah. I think they want
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really elite, cushy jobs. And that's what they envision themselves getting when they get out of
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school. But Robert Herring, the founder of OAN, he dropped out of high school over an argument
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with the administration. And his first job out of high school was cleaning eggs at a chicken coop.
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and he said the machine that would clean the eggs sprayed manure everywhere and even got on his face
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but like this is a man who is not afraid to get dirty and work with his hands and actually do a
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job he got he started a job grooming poodles out of his out of his garage you know and out of that
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out of those many many failures and successes and iterations he created this company you know
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many companies many companies so you don't start at the top and i think everybody our generation
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wants to start at the top, and they're frustrated and disappointed.
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Oh, the Zoomers are totally the CEOs of their own lives.
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College is, if you look at, and we all applied to college,
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when you look at your booklets, especially law school,
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there was a big lawsuit about this because they were promising.
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So in the law schools, the way they advertised law schools
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And so you're kind of looking through, it's like the game of life.
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Oh, if I go and study this, if I go to this school,
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Or if I study this area of expertise, I can make this much money.
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And so you're marketed that if I borrow all this money and put myself through four years of college, come out on the other side, I'm going to get this.
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They're not blaming the predatory student lenders.
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Instead, they blame the country because why not?
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It's the country's fault that they can't make money with a liberal arts degree.
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There was another study that just came out, and I forget the exact numbers, but it was from Stanford.
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and you think well computer engineers that's that's going to be a pretty
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lucrative job and i think the class was like 200
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like a 200 size class and when they graduated three of them got jobs
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well they're all getting laid off now this is one of the most vulnerable
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places in the economy because you just tell the robot
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pretend you're a computer engineer and make me a website that does xyz or make
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think of gender studies or art history or whatever as being the vulnerable ones
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but these are intelligent people studying mathematics, and they can't get a job.
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Ha-ha, the gender studies people were right all along.
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Yes, your STEM degree is worthless, but you know what?
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There's not a robot teaching Pilates in yoga class.
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I want to get to a point that David made that's a segue to another interesting piece of news
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we got about how all this is interacting with the leftist open border agenda. Our outstanding
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United States attorney in the Central District of California, Bill Asele, exposing shocking
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The story, actually, I think it came out about two years ago.
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And, yeah, he's bringing it up now again as just evidence of what Gavin Newsom has been doing to our state.
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But legitimately, they wanted to give illegal aliens taxpayer-assisted housing.
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It was like they wanted to give them the 20% down payment for buying a house for first-time buyers.
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And they want to give it to the illegal aliens.
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Well, I mean, I guess they have to replace somebody because we've lost like 250,000 people in the last two years from out of California or more.
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We've lost, I think, over a million in the last five years.
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And yeah, we are being replaced with illegal aliens.
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They're making no bones about that because these people are pliant.
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And yeah, they'll vote for you if they get all of that.
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So this is what's going to keep the state up until it completely collapses.
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We have the fifth largest economy in the world. How do you crash a country, a state with a country sized economy? It's unbelievable. Massive fraud.
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David, you're a fellow political operative. This is the midterm ad. The midterm ad in the Philly suburbs is the American family, all their boxes boxed up, and they're trying to get the house.
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famous moment in the Democrat debates where they
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all raised their hands and said they wanted free
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Spencer Pratt has made a very, very good case for using AI.
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and then there's going to be a bunch of pissed-off college students
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hey, now you have to give me money to do nothing.
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taxpayers have spent $23 billion giving health care to illegal aliens.
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for the governor's legacy fund, $20 million in your mind.
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Aren't you so glad that you're working so hard as a Californian
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to pay that state income tax so that $20 million can be spent
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Pearson Sharp, if you were forced to spend $20 million
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on the exhibit of the Gavin Newsom legacy, paint me a picture.
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uh well i think there would be an effigy on fire because it represents the fires that he's caused
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in our state uh there would be a lot of excrement you know homeless maybe sleeping underneath his
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statue you could just go on and on little needle exchange yeah yeah exactly yeah i would just make
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it look like the obama presidential library yeah which doesn't exist i think the contractors are
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all suing each other over like DEI, like claims of DEI violations.
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If anybody's ever heard of the eyesore on I-4, go look it up.
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That's like, what, 30 years in the making in Altamont?
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Well, the Gavin Newsom, what do you put in, Pollock?
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What's your contribution to the Gavin Newsom legacy exhibit?
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I think what we should do is do like a give a penny, take a penny, and start with a lot
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it would be the perfect example of the way he governs.
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It's like, I'm going to start with all this money
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and then it's the perfect tribute to Gavin Newsom.
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but then there was recently in the last couple of months,
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that he started to improve the image of California.
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why are we paying for that we're paying for his presidential run i mean that's what this is oh
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you view that as just a straight-up taxpayer fund for his political yeah absolutely he's trying to
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make he's trying to you know all states he's trying to polish a turd to be clear all states
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have a fund to promote business investment and tourism to that state it's a common yeah but
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this is right as he's leaving you know right before 2028 starts kicking in he sets up this
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taxpayer fund to make his state look good and himself especially and now we've got another 20
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million dollars for a gold statue of newsom it's just you know he's not winning in any of these
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polls no he's not i know ahead it's incredible it's very surprising i i have friends who are
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democrats and that probably surprises people uh but i i gotta ask some of them like are you guys
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really sitting around saying what we really need is another run at this well do democrats believe
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that we just didn't see enough of Kamala Harris?
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Because the whole campaign she was running
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seemed to be to show as little of her as possible.
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Because it's whatever the media tells people about these.
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They edited her interview to make her not look stupid.
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So it's whatever, and this is the power of the media,
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to the fake news and getting people comfortable
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because it's whatever the media tells your everyday person
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closing the garage and cooking dinner about the candidates.
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They'll portray the Republican as being this bad buffoon.
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oh my God, look at all the glass ceiling she's breaking.
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Look at all of the different races she makes up.
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I have normie friends and as retarded as it is,
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They want to elect Kamala because she's a black woman.
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Yeah, wouldn't it be so great for our country?
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Inflation will be at like 11%, and the only thing that will save you is if you've bought gold.
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The debt will be over $40 trillion if Kamala got elected.
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Well, you know, Matt, gold is a great hedge against Democrats winning.
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Because when Democrats win, inflation goes up, right?
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The crypto bros are worried that the Democrats want to throw them in jail.
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That's always kind of as we get into the coalition that it takes to win.
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Working class people, all races, all generations.
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And I just wonder, like, is that precisely the coalition going into the midterms? Is it shifting? Is it different or durable? How do you see it, Pearson?
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I think that Trump has awoken this America first concept that a lot of Americans have been sitting on for the last couple of decades of abuse that we've endured. And I think that might exist parallel or even independent of him at this point, because I think a lot of people have just this spirit of anger from everything that we've had to put up with and that that America first embodies that.
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And so I think whether it's Maha or MAGA or whatever it is, we have this burning desire for just freedom, just freedom from the tyranny that we've endured.
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And so I think that is going to go into the midterms. And I'd love to be optimistic about it.
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The primaries that we've seen so far have been very inspirational. So hopefully we can take that and win something.
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This week I had the chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, I'm sorry, the National Republican Party, Joe Gruders, he did lead the Republican Party of Florida.
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I had him on my show and I asked him, you know, who the villain is going to be.
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But you know that elections are choices, right?
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And there comes a point where you really do need to paint a vivid picture of what the world looks like if the other side wins.
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Do you look at any of these folks and say, Momdani, Pritzker, Newsom, that's the villain we want?
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You know, I think the villain we want is the images of what happened the last time they were in charge.
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I would highlight the fact that remember when Democrats took control in the midterms, what was it, in 2018, it was immediately impeachments and government shutdowns and chaos and crisis.
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Remember what they did leading up to 2020 with the George Floyd nonsense.
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They celebrate George Floyd on Memorial Day, not our fallen soldiers.
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We need to highlight what the chaos that they brought into this country in order to win an election.
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When Democrats win, they're willing to burn this country down and rule over its ashes to avoid ever losing again.
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And you just have to look at their track record.
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Anytime you give them an ounce of power, look what they do with it.
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And they say, only we can solve the problems we create.
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The Democrats have a big problem on their hands.
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and then you just have the the 2024 autopsy that came out you know that that disaster autopsy
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no autopsy this is never a good idea to do this is this is something that fundraisers and political
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consultants use to justify all of the lies that were told when they were frothing up and glazing
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right their own supporters it's like it wasn't cute or effective when we did it after mitt romney
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got smoked it is similarly kind of silly what's strange to me and what's frightening is that
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when you look at the shift in views over the years you see a graph you know the left is just going
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further and further and further to the rep to the left the overton window is shifting further on
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their side newsom says we get they're going to be more culturally normal yeah well he says whatever
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you know you can't believe anything it doesn't matter but that's not him trying but but to be
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clear that's not him trying to drag the party to the left it's aoc mom donnie yeah that that crew
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that's trying to drag him to the left and i think there's a different group that's kind of the
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newsom group saying let's at least go tell people we're not going to try to like regender their
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family even though that's exactly what he's trying to do but well and how did that work out though
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for republicans and and this is the democrats are about to learn the hard lesson that the gop
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establishment is finally learning and that's uh they can hold on to their version of a party that
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they think exists that actually no longer exists the mandanis and the aocs the kamala harrises
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that is the party right but gavin newsom and the consultant class of the democrat party the reason
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for the autopsy is to be like see this new stuff that aoc is trying to what that autopsy was was
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they're like sort of we're preparing to tell you that the campaigns that they're going to run is
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bad for us to convince the donors to convince the democrats that are not comfortable with actual
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socialism for the young people yeah but yeah they view i mean the young people were the strongest
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part of trump's coalition voters under the age of 30 went for trump more than any other age group
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and they will not survive if we maintain that and so they are going right at those young voters
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and i think the discussion is around a lot of the themes we've had in this podcast which is like
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they're going to say well what what has capitalism done for you what did tariffs do for you what did
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AI do for you, we're promising you free stuff. We're promising you universal basic income.
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And I think it takes precisely the discipline that you outlined to walk people down that road
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and what it really means. And that is hard. I think you have to have a villain. I think you
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have to really point to the worst excesses here in California, the worst things we see going on
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of new york i think you have to you have to almost humanize that agenda right maybe it's aoc maybe
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she's the big villain yeah but what's scary is that they're not moderating the democrats aren't
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moderating we've seen polls show that as unpopular as the gop is right now democrats are even more
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unpopular they're radically unpopular and even seeing that they are still going further to the
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left they are going more and more radical they're not moderating and so i don't know where they're
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going to try and pull the party but they don't care that they're leaving the middle behind
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and that's scary we have to be ready to seize that middle yeah and trump was
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trump was with that broad coalition and we got to be ready that's well and zoomers surprisingly
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zoomers are actually really conservative like radically conservative a lot of them are i i
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think there are a lot of particularly men in the zoomer generation who see how uh the the promises
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of liberalism and post-modernism led to divorce loneliness uh mental health problems addiction to
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social media and they want something better and it's it's a it's always a dual task in a campaign
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you know you have to you have to really show in technicolor what the other side is doing taking
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your house away and giving it to an illegal alien and then part of politics still is the motivation
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