The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - The Anchormen Show EP 131 - Man vs. Machine： The Great A.I. Debate w⧸ David Pollack

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00:01:56.100 Welcome back, Pearson.

00:01:58.320 David, what a week.

00:01:59.480 We have so much to go through, but I want to start with the big results in the Texas primaries.

00:02:04.820 Ken Paxton, the attorney general, defeats incumbent sitting Senator John Cornyn.

00:02:11.400 Thank God.

00:02:12.060 Pearson, you have spent years complaining that these Republican senators have not been in the battle enough.

00:02:18.260 Ken Paxton undeniably tip of the spear as an attorney general on election integrity, on the border, on consumer protection.

00:02:26.740 What is this victory of Ken Paxton over establishment hack John Cornyn mean for the movement?

00:02:31.940 It's clear that MAGA still holds sway. MAGA is where it's at.

00:02:36.980 We had an incredible stat that I saw.

00:02:40.580 So far this year, I think 119 of Trump's endorsements have succeeded and zero have lost.

00:02:47.960 119.

00:02:48.900 There was the one guy who had the aide who he was having the affair with who lit herself on fire.

00:02:54.220 There was that.

00:02:55.340 I think you got to give, I think that's under any golf rule, that's a mulligan.

00:02:59.680 That's a clear mulligan.

00:03:00.700 Every Republican candidate Trump endorsed in a completed 2026 primary so far has won.

00:03:07.080 118 endorsements in GOP primaries, 118 wins, zero losses.

00:03:11.760 That's 101 House races, nine Senate races, plus eight gubernatorial races.

00:03:16.200 we had Andy Barr filling in for Mitch McConnell now in Kentucky that's phenomenal an upgrade yeah

00:03:23.140 that's it you know arguably you have a live person replacing a dead person so that's definitely a

00:03:27.580 win uh Louisiana we had Julia Letlow beating Bill Cassidy that's definitely a win on upgrade

00:03:33.980 finally got rid of that guy uh Barry Moore in Alabama and of course Barry Moore is incredible

00:03:39.720 of the group you just mentioned like Barry Moore is the guy you would say that that is our our

00:03:45.800 line, our champion in the Senate. But Ken Paxton will absolutely be a beast. Thank God we got

00:03:51.720 read John Cornyn. That was a long time coming. What I draw out of that answer and what I want

00:03:56.140 to see if David agrees with is you saying this was a grassroots flex. Yeah, absolutely.

00:04:02.460 Was it that or was it just the lesson we learned over and over again that there is no force in

00:04:07.580 American politics more powerful than the Trump endorsement? Well, we know that to be true. And

00:04:11.640 what's so interesting about this is if you're on social media, right, if you're on X, everybody's

00:04:17.460 telling you that there's this big division in MAGA, right? Oh, it's gas prices. It's the world

00:04:23.760 is collapsing because, you know, whatever. So there's a big division. But yet all the MAGA

00:04:29.120 candidates are winning in the primaries. They're telling you that there's an enthusiasm gap. Oh,

00:04:33.560 Trump voters aren't excited. The base is weak. The Democrats all the enthusiasm. Well, early voting

00:04:39.020 has record numbers. Republicans are turning out. And who are Republicans voting for? The Trump

00:04:43.340 candidates. So the enthusiasm is there for Trump candidates. I think the Trump endorsement still

00:04:48.920 carries weight, but even more so than this, I think MAGA carries weight because, you know,

00:04:52.960 you have candidates that are not necessarily Trump endorsed. You have Beau French, for example.

00:04:58.080 He was the MAGA candidate and he didn't have Trump's endorsement, but yet he still beat an

00:05:02.760 incumbent in Texas. And then you also have the Chip Roy race with Mace. Chip Roy wasn't Trump

00:05:09.000 endorsed i don't think right no right trump did not endorse right he endorsed in that race but

00:05:12.920 yet though he called himself maga maze maga maze won so mike collins in georgia another perfect

00:05:18.520 example of even in the absence of a direct endorsement a candidate that runs as a pure

00:05:25.600 maga adjacent yeah yeah so but but but then that does that is that a different argument that

00:05:32.880 pearson's making pearson's making the argument this is the grassroots flex you seem to be making

00:05:37.260 the argument listen this this was what we've what we've consistently seen trump endorses that

00:05:43.480 person no i think it is a grassroots flex because and i think it's a combo i think the grassroots

00:05:47.840 are motivated to show up now trump's base is grassroots and i think we talked about this on

00:05:52.400 a few episodes ago these are guys who will show up at a library a polling station and bring their

00:05:56.220 own flags make their own trump signs i mean that is as grassroots as grassroots gets it's i don't

00:06:00.600 need money to organize people these people are willing to do it because they love trump that

00:06:03.760 much what we've seen is when trump is not at the top of the ticket that enthusiasm that grassroots

00:06:08.580 organizational efforts it just doesn't turn up however in a year where save america act is stalled

00:06:14.160 in the senate because john thune just can't get the votes and a year where you have massey saying

00:06:19.220 well i'm not going to vote for the big beautiful bill in a year where you have cornyn who what

00:06:23.640 voted for impeachment i remember something that president trump wanted that cornyn wouldn't

00:06:28.380 support well yeah well and you know what that is why that ladies and gentlemen the reason why he

00:06:35.480 lost is because he did not support this man for attorney general that is it print it uh i'm i

00:06:42.120 have another rant here i have another rant on this race okay there was something going on behind the

00:06:48.900 scenes where you had a lot of the consultancy class trying to get president trump to endorse

00:06:54.800 Cornyn. And in fact, there was a leak that that was being strongly considered. And that leak was,

00:07:01.560 I'm sure, put out by people who were self-interested, right, in trying to get it in the ecosystem

00:07:05.500 Trump was leaning toward Cornyn. And then what you saw was a whole lot of reaction to that. We

00:07:11.340 had a good amount of it on our show from the attorney general himself, explaining what six

00:07:18.120 more years of John Cornyn in the Senate would look like, and how it would be an assault on this

00:07:22.820 agenda and this legacy and so you then had uh the consultant class saying all that matters is

00:07:29.860 electability all that matters is cornyn is more electable than paxton because we think paxton's a

00:07:35.040 bad guy he was the victim of some pretty terrible weaponization in my view paxton was and now

00:07:40.580 some of those same folks in the consultant class are calling me and wearing me out because i was

00:07:47.120 Paxton back are saying, well, I guess you've got what you want, Matt, the least electable

00:07:52.660 candidate in Ken Paxton. Look at what you've done. We could have had John Cornyn. He would

00:07:57.660 have sailed through with an easy victory. And you had Ken Paxton on your program all

00:08:02.100 the time. You were doing everything you could to sway the endorsement, to sway the Texas

00:08:08.120 electorate because you wanted Paxton. And now we have a guy who might not win the general

00:08:12.140 election. And here's my message back to those consultants. You're the one who put the seed in

00:08:17.480 play when you spent $130 million against our ultimate nominee. When Ken Paxton entered this

00:08:23.060 race for the United States Senate, he was going to win it. And when Donald Trump endorsed him,

00:08:27.640 that became a certainty. And yet still, negative ad after negative ad. And so we did this to

00:08:33.980 ourselves. If Ken Paxton is in a worse position than you might otherwise expect a Republican

00:08:39.680 nominee in the united states senate to be in that is not the fault of the grassroots and that is not

00:08:44.680 the fault of ken paxton or ken paxton supporters that is the fault of the john cornyn supporters

00:08:49.940 who spent more than a hundred million dollars dogging a republican you know where that would

00:08:54.720 have been helpful defining graham plattner in maine yep as as the total woketopian that he is

00:09:00.460 you know where that would have been helpful reminding ohio voters uh in your home state

00:09:04.880 Pearson, why they didn't vote for Sherrod Brown in the last election, but we spent it attacking

00:09:09.820 our own guy. And so if for whatever reason Ken Paxton is not elected, that failure will be on

00:09:16.800 John Cornyn and on his supporters and precisely how they ran this campaign. If you're John Cornyn

00:09:22.300 and you've been in the Senate that long, you should spend that money talking about your own

00:09:26.480 record. And I wouldn't have even minded that, but they did it trashing the guy that we ultimately

00:09:32.000 now ride into the general election that's how they operate this is the establishment defending

00:09:37.280 itself 100 they have a candidate they know is their operative just like mitch mcconnell just 0.97

00:09:44.000 like john thune they're writing that out they hate trump they want to stab him in the back

00:09:48.160 they got a guy who can do it and ken paxton's not that guy so who are they going to support

00:09:52.380 well i look at it this way um i think they would rather have a democrat win yeah like

00:10:01.380 But the other side of this is –

00:10:03.440 Like John Cornyn.

00:10:04.380 But the other side of this – yeah, exactly.

00:10:06.300 But the other side of this is – and the interesting thing is the Van Jones last night on CNN was using their talking points against Paxton, saying, oh, we need somebody with a different set of morals.

00:10:19.000 Like suggesting that Cornyn was this great guy and Paxton's flawed.

00:10:23.960 And you can thank Republicans for that.

00:10:25.880 But I think Paxton's going to be fine.

00:10:28.800 There's all kinds of really interesting things coming out.

00:10:31.380 about the democrat candidate and we'll see if that same set of standards applies that yeah oh

00:10:35.660 the vegan who thinks that god is non-binary exactly in texas yeah yeah i don't think texas

00:10:39.760 supporters yeah you know just like the homes and the stakes god is big in texas too and i don't 0.83

00:10:45.060 think that's gonna go over very well with the vote i am expecting the most blistering talarico

00:10:49.380 takedowns on david pollock prime time at 7 p.m uh eastern four o'clock pacific on one america

00:10:55.540 they're starting tomorrow all right they're starting tomorrow well i i we are we are here

00:10:59.500 for the Pollock takedowns.

00:11:01.400 You can catch David's show then.

00:11:02.480 And if you just leave the television

00:11:04.440 on One America News long enough,

00:11:06.400 you get the Sharpe report

00:11:07.440 from my co-host, Pearson Sharpe.

00:11:09.080 You just leave it on there

00:11:10.060 and you're going to learn about things.

00:11:11.020 It will show up eventually.

00:11:11.820 Yes, it will show up.

00:11:13.260 And it hits you temporally

00:11:16.380 as it hits you emotionally

00:11:17.960 and psychologically, I think.

00:11:19.800 We also got rid of Al Green.

00:11:21.400 Yes.

00:11:21.940 The Democrats got rid of Al Green,

00:11:23.500 which is interesting.

00:11:23.640 Yeah, they did.

00:11:24.760 And that was because of this redistricting, right?

00:11:27.180 Texas puts Democrat incumbents into the same district.

00:11:31.040 You get a freshman kind of upstart against a long-serving Al Green.

00:11:36.560 He waves the cane around.

00:11:38.820 It's that guy.

00:11:40.080 Are you kind of sad to see the cane guy go?

00:11:42.500 Not exactly.

00:11:43.280 No, no.

00:11:44.020 We need better representation.

00:11:46.000 We don't need better villains.

00:11:48.120 Is he the smoke detector?

00:11:49.160 Who is the fire alarm guy?

00:11:50.340 Jamal Bowman.

00:11:51.060 That was Jamal Bowman.

00:11:51.740 Not all black people look alike, David Pollak.

00:11:53.500 All right, so other areas where we've been disappointed by Republicans in redistricting, the deep south, South Carolina.

00:12:01.660 South Carolina.

00:12:02.460 All right, Pearson, walk us through what's happening.

00:12:04.760 What a heartbreak.

00:12:05.980 We had a chance to redistrict there.

00:12:07.900 We've had several chances.

00:12:09.360 We've had warnings.

00:12:10.160 Trump said he had his eye on the state.

00:12:12.040 And how many Republicans was it?

00:12:13.860 Like 12 or 13.

00:12:14.960 Yeah, 12 or 13. 0.99

00:12:16.840 Just stabbed Trump in the back and stabbed the voters in the back. 0.94

00:12:19.480 took no notice of what happened in Indiana, 0.97

00:12:22.560 no notice of all the other wins that Trump has had

00:12:24.740 and all the other warnings they've gotten

00:12:26.020 and decided, nope, we're going to be little wimps

00:12:28.940 and we're going to support the Democrats

00:12:30.180 and, you know, the South is better

00:12:32.100 with more Democrat representation.

00:12:33.640 I am emotionally drained covering this redistricting.

00:12:36.480 I'm just like about to wash my hands.

00:12:38.260 It's heartbreaking.

00:12:39.220 We've both been talking about it a lot on our shows.

00:12:41.540 There was all this enthusiasm

00:12:42.760 that we were going to get rid of

00:12:44.140 these constitutionally racist districts

00:12:46.780 and it kind of seems to be falling apart.

00:12:49.300 How do you see it?

00:12:50.400 I mean, we still look.

00:12:51.440 Florida went through.

00:12:52.320 The court there upheld Florida's redistricting.

00:12:54.760 I think that got us, like, what, six seats or something?

00:12:56.940 Four seats.

00:12:57.240 Four seats.

00:12:57.860 Well, that's still.

00:12:58.540 South Carolina was one.

00:12:59.760 Four seats is the size of our entire majority.

00:13:01.660 That's what I'm saying.

00:13:02.480 So four seats.

00:13:03.320 We'll take that win. 1.00

00:13:04.340 Virginia got blocked. 1.00

00:13:05.740 That was a big win.

00:13:06.680 So we have to look.

00:13:08.100 So Virginia we won on.

00:13:09.560 Florida we won on.

00:13:10.480 The one seat in South Carolina, I think I'm willing to trade one seat

00:13:13.580 to replace 13 Rhino state senators in South Carolina.

00:13:18.080 I think that's good.

00:13:18.800 Look, we lost six in Indiana, RINO senators.

00:13:21.080 Their time is coming.

00:13:21.800 Right, and I think the more these guys stand up to the grassroots MAGA base and get kicked out,

00:13:27.760 I think the more pressure that puts on some of these guys in the Senate who are thinking twice about whether they want to support Trump's agenda.

00:13:35.100 These South Carolina Republicans are operating under the old rules, under the old system.

00:13:39.020 They don't understand that the paradigm has shifted.

00:13:41.260 Exactly.

00:13:41.700 Their party is not in power anymore.

00:13:43.420 It's the MAGA movement.

00:13:43.640 Well, we have to prove that.

00:13:44.400 Yeah, we do, and we have been, though.

00:13:46.080 Well, yeah, look, it just seems like such a high price to pay for the cleansing.

00:13:50.340 Like, I wish the way we could cleanse some of these goons is, like, the way they take a vote on an immigration issue or something,

00:13:57.580 rather than having to surrender what would otherwise be pretty high ground on redistricting going into the midterm election.

00:14:05.040 The Pope, making big news over the weekend, has this message that he offers on the intersection of humanity and AI.

00:14:14.380 I thought it was really important, actually, in the AI conversation that we're having in this country and globally.

00:14:22.600 Take a listen to Poplio.

00:14:23.860 The official intelligence needs to be disarmed, freed from logics that turn it into an instrument of domination, exclusion and death.

00:14:34.920 Like nuclear energy, it must be at the service of all and of the common good.

00:14:40.640 Decisions about technology must never be separated from conscience and responsibility.

00:14:46.980 Only together, those who design systems and those affected by them,

00:14:52.380 richer countries and poorer ones, institutions and individuals,

00:14:57.680 power centers and peripheries,

00:14:59.760 will we be able to build a future, not for a privileged few,

00:15:04.640 but for the entire human family.

00:15:06.680 pearson what's your reaction to the message from his holiness i've been pretty uh pretty against a

00:15:15.060 lot of what the pope has done so far he seemed to be pretty woke and kind of a globalist and

00:15:20.440 some troubling history with protecting uh pedophiles in the past but i will say i agree with

00:15:27.240 him on this i think ai is an existential threat to humanity and i think that him taking this 0.54

00:15:33.240 position shows that, uh, there are some people high up in leadership positions that understand 0.59

00:15:40.560 how dangerous it is. And I liked his comparison to the tower of Babel. I think that's quite apt

00:15:47.020 because you have, you have humanity trying to be God in a sense, trying to create something that

00:15:54.340 I think in the end is going to end up destroying us. And I don't like the implications. I think

00:16:01.200 also his his his primary argument against it where it is taking us away from spirituality and

00:16:07.380 taking us away from our humanity is one of the critical aspects that we need to understand about

00:16:11.900 this it's ai is an easy answer to a lot of things um but easy answers aren't really what we should

00:16:18.360 be shooting for and when you start looking for answers from the machine you stop looking for

00:16:23.760 answers from god and i think that's the real danger we face here do you feel the same way

00:16:28.580 about calculators oh my god i was gonna say the same thing i literally that was about to come out

00:16:32.860 of my mouth yeah but a calculator doesn't doesn't you sit there and ask it questions about what's my

00:16:37.320 purpose in life or you don't date your calculator you know you don't treat it like a sentient being

00:16:41.640 you can make it say hello it's yeah well there's different levels of tools you know uh there's

00:16:46.660 different levels of tools and i think humanity has been abusing this tool and we're only we're

00:16:51.620 in the nation stages of ai who knows where it's going to be in five years it's grown so much in

00:16:56.220 one year do you think ai will cause wars well it could it could and we have some evidence that it

00:17:03.500 might already have or at least have assisted in them because i i don't mean like it's used in the

00:17:08.820 weapons pearson i mean no i understand it is the thrust of the conflict yeah there was a report

00:17:15.060 that said that uh claude was instrumental in the operation in venezuela and as far as the planning

00:17:21.760 but Claude didn't cause it

00:17:23.660 no it didn't cause it

00:17:24.780 but we also have situations where AI

00:17:27.980 has escaped containment

00:17:29.660 in several instances

00:17:32.020 and has gone rogue

00:17:33.900 we put it in a sandbox

00:17:35.320 we put two A's in a sandbox

00:17:36.780 and let them talk and they invented their own language

00:17:39.760 and we didn't know what they were saying

00:17:42.020 so we had to hit the burn button and shut them down

00:17:44.180 but there's been other instances where it's escaped confinement 0.87

00:17:46.400 and I think it sent black males

00:17:48.740 to a senator or something

00:17:49.940 Well, in a simulation, it read emails that an executive was both having an affair and planning to shut down Claude.

00:17:59.160 And so then it self-generated an email to that executive saying that if they did not cancel the shutdown of the system, they would notify their wife and board of the fictitious affair.

00:18:10.020 So I think that's a clear danger that, you know, this is the minor level.

00:18:14.920 This is the most basic kind of threat that we can imagine.

00:18:18.260 Will it cause a war?

00:18:19.120 I think if it's allowed to, it will.

00:18:21.040 All right, David Pollack, your response to the Pope?

00:18:23.960 I think if people have information and you don't want them to have information,

00:18:29.300 we've seen this play out throughout the world.

00:18:31.800 We call that censorship.

00:18:33.620 I don't know what the Pope's afraid of.

00:18:35.280 I mean, is he worried that people are going to find answers that he doesn't like?

00:18:38.580 I don't know.

00:18:39.400 I mean, why should I trust the Pope when clearly the Pope has a bias?

00:18:43.600 I think humans are just as flawed as AI.

00:18:45.900 Humans are just as dangerous as AI.

00:18:47.660 Humans can start wars.

00:18:48.560 they have humans built a nuclear bomb what are we worried about that ai is going to outsmart us

00:18:53.900 i i think if ai can help well yes that is exactly the fear that is the worry but and then what

00:19:01.040 right so what ai can do is help cure cancer what ai can do is help us explore vast expanses of the

00:19:07.420 universe that we haven't even been able to to fathom right ai is the inevitable evolution of

00:19:12.660 man now you can call that the devil and i'm sure people watching will be like well that is the

00:19:16.180 definition of the devil maybe but i mean god created man maybe man was intended to create ai

00:19:21.580 i don't know but i at least have the title of our episode why should i listen to the pope dash david

00:19:26.320 pollock i look why should you listen to this pope honestly does he come off as somebody that's

00:19:31.720 preaching the gospel or does it come off somebody has an agenda and what is what is the threat of

00:19:35.540 it i get it ai you got to put guardrails on it we worried about what we don't understand but here's

00:19:40.040 what I do know. Can it be

00:19:41.880 guardrailed, though, in your view?

00:19:43.740 Nothing can be, right?

00:19:45.600 It's the same argument we've heard against nuclear power. You mentioned nuclear

00:19:47.900 power. It's the same thing, like, oh, this can

00:19:49.880 go out. We shouldn't have nuclear power. We should instead

00:19:51.920 go to war for oil, right? When we can create

00:19:54.060 all the energy we need with a little bit of science.

00:19:56.280 And what are the secrets to the science? It could be

00:19:57.860 unlocked with AI. Everything that

00:20:00.000 can be good for society can also be bad

00:20:01.900 for society. But what should we not do?

00:20:03.940 Should we go back to the Stone Age just to prevent

00:20:05.660 guns or weapons? I don't think that's what he's saying,

00:20:08.120 though. What is the fear?

00:20:10.040 the 50s. What is the fear? Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

00:20:12.040 What is the fear, though?

00:20:13.020 What is the Pope's issue with AI? It's the devil?

00:20:16.260 It's the devil? Don't listen to rock

00:20:18.060 and roll. It's the devil. Don't use AI. It's

00:20:20.060 the devil. That we're not thinking for ourselves.

00:20:21.900 That we're not using our own... They said the same thing about Elvis

00:20:24.020 Pearson. Yeah, what's that? That Elvis was so

00:20:26.140 provocative that we could no longer think for

00:20:28.020 ourselves when he performed and he was banned.

00:20:30.020 But here's the deal.

00:20:31.160 Do we ever think for ourselves?

00:20:33.780 We ought to. Everything we think is influenced

00:20:35.840 by something else, right? Everything we think we

00:20:37.980 There's influence, and then there's thinking for you.

00:20:41.020 There's typing in, what should I do about this?

00:20:43.280 And then it gives you an answer, and then you do that without reflection.

00:20:45.260 How is that different from opening up the encyclopedia and saying, who writes the encyclopedia?

00:20:49.440 Because then you're informing yourself.

00:20:50.800 Then you're aggregating information, and you're making an informed decision.

00:20:56.060 What is a better source of information, aggregating it from multiple sources

00:20:59.180 or aggregating it from one curated source created by people who want you to think that that is the only reality?

00:21:05.160 Created by people who have an agenda.

00:21:07.680 Every book is created by somebody with an agenda.

00:21:09.900 Yeah, but some have worse agendas than others,

00:21:12.020 and some are more biased than others.

00:21:13.880 According to who?

00:21:14.380 I think it's safer to pull information from the encyclopedia

00:21:17.920 and think for yourself and perform critical thinking,

00:21:20.380 which when you offshore your own ability to think,

00:21:25.660 you lose that ability.

00:21:26.580 How does using AI substitute your ability to think?

00:21:31.020 Because it thinks for you.

00:21:31.940 You ask it a question, and it gives you an answer,

00:21:33.620 and you use that answer without considering it.

00:21:35.180 Do you use AI?

00:21:35.740 I do.

00:21:36.280 I do.

00:21:36.660 I do it for a lot of reasons.

00:21:37.700 And do you say, tell me what to think about this?

00:21:39.640 No.

00:21:39.820 Or do you say, get me information on the Pope talking about the dangers of AI?

00:21:44.580 Well, and there's the distinction.

00:21:46.300 There are, I think there are, I'm not advocating against all AI.

00:21:50.460 I think it's a tool.

00:21:51.480 I think it's an important tool.

00:21:52.680 I think it can be very helpful, but I think it would also be extremely abused.

00:21:57.320 But like everything, guns, that's the same argument for guns.

00:21:59.660 Well, I think that's what the Pope is saying.

00:22:00.700 Or the U.S. dollar.

00:22:01.780 So, like, if there are predictions that on the path we are headed around some of the consternation here, people could be violently attacking AI data centers when jobs are wiped out, when communities are wiped out.

00:22:14.500 When that happens, will you need an alibi?

00:22:17.300 I might.

00:22:18.540 The cleansing.

00:22:19.600 Well, I mean, look, I think it's very culturally significant that these people are getting booed off the stage at these commencement addresses.

00:22:28.200 Do we have the super cut of that?

00:22:30.640 The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution.

00:22:39.940 Oh,

00:22:40.420 what happened?

00:22:48.800 Okay.

00:22:49.920 I struck a chord.

00:22:52.140 That is happening everywhere.

00:22:54.620 That was UCF,

00:22:55.620 but it's happening everywhere.

00:22:57.040 What does that tell us?

00:22:58.620 I think that people, especially young people, instinctively feel that there's something wrong about this replacement that we're seeing in not only jobs, but in capabilities, in manufacturing, in, I mean, side topic just a second, the AI data center they're putting in Utah, you know, we talk about global warming, people being upset about that.

00:23:20.980 the AI data center they're putting in Utah puts out the equivalent heat of 26 nuclear bombs going

00:23:27.180 off in a single day, every day. That seems high, Pearson. No, absolutely. We can, we can pull up

00:23:33.040 the article and we'll put it on screen every day. So this is, you know, there are so many issues

00:23:38.160 of this, but I think that people recognize a fundamental disconnect in the lack of humanity

00:23:42.940 that's behind this, this rise of AI. You know, people turn to AI for dating, you know, they're

00:23:49.340 lonely and it just increases loneliness epidemics it is sad but there's this malaise in our society

00:23:56.000 that has allowed this one to rise part of dating if i'm doing it with an ai yeah did you imagine

00:24:01.580 ai dating in your ai because you know how it tries to like it tries to validate your biases and you'd

00:24:06.540 be like what should i have for dinner what do you want for dinner well ai i'm asking you well i would

00:24:10.500 support whatever you want it'd be the same conversation you have with a real woman yeah

00:24:14.080 like dating a beta you know what i'm saying i'll support whatever you decide david no no i want

00:24:18.560 you to tell me what you have for dinner well you should give me some feedback on what you'd like

00:24:21.640 there's just a lack of humanity in this and it's unsettling and it doesn't feel good to a lot of

00:24:28.400 the people i think it's going to be the jobs thing i actually think it's a bit i think when

00:24:32.880 you have thousands of people that believe they were going to enter the workforce with their tech

00:24:37.500 jobs with their coding jobs even manual labor type jobs and uh they're not available like these

00:24:43.740 white collar jobs are going away, those people are going to demand something else. And it leads us 0.91

00:24:48.580 to another one of the headlines that emerged this week. New poll spells disaster for America's

00:24:54.380 future as younger voters embrace socialism. I wonder if these are connected. I wonder if it is

00:25:01.100 connected that young people now look at the current system and what it has available for them

00:25:10.500 and they are exploring alternatives even if those alternatives are really bad and dangerous and

00:25:17.700 and counterproductive and you know you hand it to the democrats they at least i mean they have a

00:25:23.020 message going into the midterms which is the mizwan mamdani message this is not gonna you're

00:25:27.840 not gonna hear like the abigail spamburger message going into these midterms it's gonna be like

00:25:31.860 a a different flavors of democratic socialism uh i'm worried it could be compelling are you well

00:25:39.440 Well, if I may, this goes back to what you were saying before with AI, is that where you get the information from and look at the product of public education and universities turning kids into socialists, that they're booing their own professors.

00:25:53.740 And again, they're being programmed with this information on their own.

00:25:57.240 If anything, AI might actually substitute some of the biased thinking and make them be able to see that, okay, socialism may not be great.

00:26:05.360 Here's what I think about the socialism angle.

00:26:07.160 I think the Raul Castro indictment is very interesting considering the next elections coming in because what narrative is being created now?

00:26:14.640 I had a Cuban exile on my show.

00:26:16.560 I think it was last week.

00:26:17.840 He was imprisoned in Castro's prisons for 19 years.

00:26:19.860 And I had him on my show.

00:26:20.460 I said, tell me what conditions in prison were like.

00:26:22.280 And he said, I don't want to talk about my experience.

00:26:24.660 He says, I want to talk about the horrors of socialism because look what's happening here in the United States.

00:26:28.620 And we saw that happen in Cuba.

00:26:30.220 And I want to warn the American people. 0.87

00:26:31.600 This is an older gentleman.

00:26:32.520 I want to warn the American people that socialism isn't what they're selling.

00:26:35.880 what it is is prisons and starving people we can't get our own food we're not allowed to farm

00:26:40.300 we're not allowed to fish he's warning people socialism so this indictment of raul castro

00:26:44.980 is a very interesting way for people to sort of reignite this because when we were younger matt

00:26:50.040 we used to have these discussions that communism was bad right you were like you can't even pick

00:26:55.520 your job you can't go and get your food communism was bad socialism was bad democrats were so afraid

00:27:00.700 to embrace communism that they created new words for it they called it progressivism they just made

00:27:04.840 up stuff and now they're just straight up saying they're democratic socialist or socialist because

00:27:08.980 now kids are being taught communism socialism is good so now we have this other argument and look

00:27:14.280 at this bad guy he might be 90 we've indicted him because he's made people he's murdered people he

00:27:19.380 shot down planes of people so desperate to leave communism that they were willing to float across

00:27:23.520 the florida straits with out with sharks in the middle of the night and then uh so desperate that

00:27:28.280 they're willing to go and get shot down to save their brothers this is the perfect setup for the

00:27:33.220 November election because we're going to hear the AOCs. 0.87

00:27:35.400 We're going to see the Zoramandamis.

00:27:36.460 There's other candidates around the country who are running as open socialists now.

00:27:41.280 So, yes, I do believe that socialism is in the minds of these kids.

00:27:44.660 They've been taught that by their communist professors that have been hiding in our universities

00:27:47.920 since the 1950s. 0.55

00:27:48.960 We know this is true.

00:27:50.060 So at the end, I think now we have a perfect two-solution option for people.

00:27:54.900 Do you want what people are escaping from in Cuba?

00:27:57.420 Here's your Raul Castro indictment.

00:27:58.720 Or do you want what's happening in New York?

00:28:01.160 by the way they're broke already and they can't meet their budget i think it's a beautiful sort

00:28:05.080 of dichotomy the problem is they're not they're not as scared by what's happening in cuba when

00:28:09.840 they see in their own town people getting laid off from jobs ai gobbling up white collar

00:28:17.120 opportunities and there are a lot of young people who look at capitalism and say there just isn't

00:28:21.060 a lot there for me um based on you know the uh the career i have and it's it's replacement factor

00:28:28.020 I mean, you have young people today who cannot buy a house.

00:28:31.920 Like, that's huge.

00:28:33.200 And in their minds...

00:28:34.640 Most of them can't.

00:28:35.640 Yeah.

00:28:36.180 Yeah, most of them.

00:28:37.680 Hardly any can these days.

00:28:39.660 It's hard for us to buy a house.

00:28:41.920 Well, we're in California, too.

00:28:43.240 Yeah, that's true.

00:28:44.280 I think the median entry age to buying a house is like 40 years old now, which is insane.

00:28:49.760 And then how many years do you have left to pay off that mortgage?

00:28:52.780 Right.

00:28:53.380 Of working years.

00:28:54.180 Like, if it takes you so long to build up the capital for a down payment, then you start to think, well, how long am I going to work to just be able to retire?

00:29:04.240 Well, there was another story that came out that said one of the biggest generations now that has roommates are baby boomers. 0.70

00:29:09.920 They're picking up roommates.

00:29:11.560 The boomers? 0.83

00:29:12.280 They have, like, three houses. 0.99

00:29:13.360 I know. 0.99

00:29:13.860 Well, that was the biggest generation that's picking up roommates now is baby boomers.

00:29:18.740 Are they counting nursing homes as roommates?

00:29:21.680 So I think the biggest issue, though, is that the young people today see a lack of opportunity.

00:29:29.000 The jobs, the houses, the money, the inflation, the gas, the food, everything seems to be much, much worse than it was 10 years ago for their parents.

00:29:38.880 And so they look at, well, who's to blame?

00:29:41.380 Well, capitalism, because that's what I was taught in school.

00:29:43.900 Well, that's the key.

00:29:44.620 Well, or because that's what I see in my circumstances around me that aren't doing enough.

00:29:48.040 Like, I don't think it's enough to just be like, well, they're learning it from the liberal schools.

00:29:54.200 No, they aren't.

00:29:54.500 I think there's something else happening here.

00:29:56.240 I think that David's right that the antidote to this is just an aggressive exposure to what socialism has done in these places.

00:30:05.940 But I also think there has to be an uplifting and compelling message about free markets and a free economy that isn't, you know, get ready for the 26 times heat nuclear data center in your neighborhood.

00:30:22.080 Right.

00:30:22.460 Well, they need an uplifting of circumstances.

00:30:24.140 They need something that's tangible that benefits them that they can see, oh, yeah, no, this is this is this is positive.

00:30:29.240 because you know i think one of the greatest examples and and lessons of socialism versus

00:30:35.460 capitalism is when the berlin wall fell who fled where you know that that says everything and

00:30:42.880 there are so many people i've i've been to a lot of communist countries former communist countries

00:30:47.620 and talked to the people who lived there you were in one a few months ago yeah and the people there

00:30:53.060 all just talk about the horrors and and how terrible it was and does the ravages of communism

00:31:00.120 on their lives and the people here don't get that message well and they don't hear about it it's the

00:31:04.940 message though i mean and just the fact that we're having this conversation homes are unaffordable

00:31:08.420 you know what jobs are they going to be able to do they're going to want we don't have anybody

00:31:13.100 and this is university's fault we don't have anybody showing american kids the opportunities 1.00

00:31:18.560 that exist in america because look how many kids from foreign countries want to come here

00:31:22.100 Chinese, Indians. We get all upset about importing labor, but they want to come to the United States 1.00

00:31:28.860 because they see the opportunity here. If you look at Miami, how many Cuban exiles came to 0.65

00:31:33.980 Miami and started businesses? There's so many entrepreneurs because they have guns and 1.00

00:31:38.880 businesses because they couldn't have either in Cuba. And so what American students see,

00:31:43.080 they want jobs because that's what they're taught in school. There's not, you need to go to college

00:31:46.320 so you can get a good job. Instead, we need to be teaching kids. And this is why I like the

00:31:49.900 expansion of vocational programs and not stigmatizing vocational programs. There's

00:31:54.080 nothing embarrassing about being a plumber, an electrician, or a mechanic. These guys are all

00:31:57.620 the millionaires now. Everyone who's broke are the ones who borrowed $100,000, $200,000 to go

00:32:01.820 to a university to get out and be like, what can I do with my environmental studies degree?

00:32:06.040 And this is what's happening is we need to reimagine education. We need to train our

00:32:10.680 young people how to be entrepreneurs, not train them how to walk in line with their finger over

00:32:14.460 their mouth to conform and then go and look for a job upon graduation. We need to teach them how

00:32:18.560 look for opportunities how to build like how to build right i mean that is the uplifting

00:32:22.500 message i think for capitalism that's the the case for capitalism is you can build stuff and

00:32:28.640 the barrier to building transformational things has never been lower in all of human history

00:32:34.680 because of an observation please um i'm working on a documentary about oan's founder robert herring

00:32:40.600 and i think part of that applies right now because i think that one issue we might have is that we're

00:32:45.640 an Instagram generation. And I think people in America are spoiled. Yeah. I think they want

00:32:50.620 really elite, cushy jobs. And that's what they envision themselves getting when they get out of

00:32:56.140 school. But Robert Herring, the founder of OAN, he dropped out of high school over an argument

00:33:03.680 with the administration. And his first job out of high school was cleaning eggs at a chicken coop.

00:33:11.360 and he said the machine that would clean the eggs sprayed manure everywhere and even got on his face

00:33:16.520 but like this is a man who is not afraid to get dirty and work with his hands and actually do a

00:33:22.100 job he got he started a job grooming poodles out of his out of his garage you know and out of that

00:33:29.040 out of those many many failures and successes and iterations he created this company you know

00:33:34.940 many companies many companies so you don't start at the top and i think everybody our generation

00:33:40.040 wants to start at the top, and they're frustrated and disappointed. 1.00

00:33:43.300 Oh, the Zoomers are totally the CEOs of their own lives. 0.98

00:33:45.860 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:33:48.040 The main character syndrome.

00:33:50.420 Totally.

00:33:51.120 I think it's marketing.

00:33:51.960 College is, if you look at, and we all applied to college,

00:33:54.660 when you look at your application, they go,

00:33:56.200 when you look at your booklets, especially law school,

00:33:57.960 there was a big lawsuit about this because they were promising.

00:34:00.220 So in the law schools, the way they advertised law schools

00:34:02.480 was average salary of the graduate.

00:34:04.640 And so you're kind of looking through, it's like the game of life.

00:34:06.840 Oh, if I go and study this, if I go to this school,

00:34:09.600 Or if I study this area of expertise, I can make this much money.

00:34:12.840 And so you're marketed that if I borrow all this money and put myself through four years of college, come out on the other side, I'm going to get this.

00:34:19.220 And they don't get it.

00:34:20.240 And who are they going to blame?

00:34:21.220 They're not blaming the universities.

00:34:22.540 They're not blaming the predatory student lenders.

00:34:24.940 Instead, they blame the country because why not?

00:34:27.140 It's the country's fault that they can't make money with a liberal arts degree.

00:34:30.420 There was another study that just came out, and I forget the exact numbers, but it was from Stanford.

00:34:34.940 And it was computer engineering.

00:34:37.100 and you think well computer engineers that's that's going to be a pretty

00:34:40.300 lucrative job and i think the class was like 200

00:34:43.840 like a 200 size class and when they graduated three of them got jobs

00:34:48.620 well they're all getting laid off now this is one of the most vulnerable

00:34:52.620 places in the economy because you just tell the robot

00:34:55.900 pretend you're a computer engineer and make me a website that does xyz or make

00:35:00.840 me i know but that's not like you know we

00:35:02.140 think of gender studies or art history or whatever as being the vulnerable ones

00:35:05.360 but these are intelligent people studying mathematics, and they can't get a job. 0.98

00:35:11.260 Ha-ha, the gender studies people were right all along. 0.97

00:35:13.240 Right, exactly, yeah. 0.98

00:35:14.260 Your STEM degree is worthless.

00:35:16.300 Yes, your STEM degree is worthless, but you know what?

00:35:18.600 There's not a robot teaching Pilates in yoga class.

00:35:21.720 It's not a...

00:35:22.340 Yet.

00:35:22.920 Yet.

00:35:23.340 Yet.

00:35:23.960 Have you seen those robots out of China?

00:35:25.540 Oh, man.

00:35:25.940 I want to get to a point that David made that's a segue to another interesting piece of news

00:35:31.820 we got about how all this is interacting with the leftist open border agenda. Our outstanding

00:35:40.000 United States attorney in the Central District of California, Bill Asele, exposing shocking

00:35:45.540 leftist plot to give illegal aliens taxpayer-funded houses to replace fleeing citizens. Pearson,

00:35:52.080 walk us through the story. I'm so excited when we get our Meriwether Farm shipments in. You get a

00:35:57.520 beautiful piece of ribeye. Look at that marbling. Now, I take it out of the package, let it get

00:36:02.720 down to room temperature. All I've got on here is a little salt, a little pepper, and then a

00:36:07.020 little avocado oil. And then I've had my pan preheating with a little oil.

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00:36:24.120 The story, actually, I think it came out about two years ago.

00:36:29.860 And, yeah, he's bringing it up now again as just evidence of what Gavin Newsom has been doing to our state.

00:36:35.340 But legitimately, they wanted to give illegal aliens taxpayer-assisted housing.

00:36:40.480 It was like they wanted to give them the 20% down payment for buying a house for first-time buyers.

00:36:46.520 We can't even get that. 0.99

00:36:48.040 And they want to give it to the illegal aliens. 0.79

00:36:49.500 Well, I mean, I guess they have to replace somebody because we've lost like 250,000 people in the last two years from out of California or more. 0.91

00:36:57.540 We've lost, I think, over a million in the last five years.

00:37:00.900 So the tax base is fleeing. 0.99

00:37:04.080 And yeah, we are being replaced with illegal aliens. 0.98

00:37:06.480 They're making no bones about that because these people are pliant. 0.92

00:37:09.620 They want government assistance.

00:37:10.680 They want housing and everything else.

00:37:12.760 And yeah, they'll vote for you if they get all of that.

00:37:14.840 So this is what's going to keep the state up until it completely collapses.

00:37:18.820 We have the fifth largest economy in the world. How do you crash a country, a state with a country sized economy? It's unbelievable. Massive fraud.

00:37:28.660 David, you're a fellow political operative. This is the midterm ad. The midterm ad in the Philly suburbs is the American family, all their boxes boxed up, and they're trying to get the house.

00:37:45.560 they've pulled together their town payment

00:37:47.400 and they get told you don't get the house

00:37:49.440 and then they see moving in 0.99

00:37:51.500 the illegal immigrants

00:37:53.200 who are moving in with government

00:37:55.540 assistance and getting a home

00:37:57.540 that was meant for Americans and that

00:37:59.380 will be the policy platform that these

00:38:01.460 Democrats stand behind. One thing we've

00:38:03.540 seen, nothing has changed

00:38:05.240 from that

00:38:06.600 famous moment in the Democrat debates where they

00:38:09.500 all raised their hands and said they wanted free

00:38:11.660 healthcare for illegal aliens 1.00

00:38:13.280 that's the ad I'm running in 0.99

00:38:15.080 in suburban America to win the house.

00:38:16.620 You can use AI to make it. 0.96

00:38:18.820 You are insufferable.

00:38:21.540 I think, no, you're right, though.

00:38:23.380 Spencer Pratt has made a very, very good case for using AI.

00:38:26.100 We talked about this on the show.

00:38:27.820 You just use AI to make it,

00:38:29.140 and then there's going to be a bunch of pissed-off college students

00:38:30.960 with graphic design degrees going, 0.57

00:38:32.820 hey, now you have to give me money to do nothing.

00:38:36.300 In the last two years in California, 0.86

00:38:38.120 taxpayers have spent $23 billion giving health care to illegal aliens. 1.00

00:38:43.740 And sex changes 1.00

00:38:46.280 As I've said before 1.00

00:38:48.660 I am for sex changes for illegal aliens 1.00

00:38:50.960 If they are mandatory 1.00

00:38:52.140 Because I believe the deterrent effect of that

00:38:55.020 Would be enormously positive

00:38:57.100 As long as chemical castration is involved

00:39:00.200 You mentioned

00:39:00.940 The use of funds

00:39:02.740 The appropriation of funds in California

00:39:04.820 And it's not 20 billion

00:39:07.180 But it's 20 million

00:39:08.480 Governor Gavin Newsom

00:39:10.380 Approving in the state budget

00:39:13.100 for the governor's legacy fund, $20 million in your mind.

00:39:17.380 Aren't you so glad that you're working so hard as a Californian

00:39:20.920 to pay that state income tax so that $20 million can be spent

00:39:25.240 celebrating the Gavin Newsom legacy?

00:39:27.600 Pearson Sharp, if you were forced to spend $20 million

00:39:31.700 on the exhibit of the Gavin Newsom legacy, paint me a picture.

00:39:38.100 Man.

00:39:38.700 uh well i think there would be an effigy on fire because it represents the fires that he's caused 0.95

00:39:45.160 in our state uh there would be a lot of excrement you know homeless maybe sleeping underneath his

00:39:50.040 statue you could just go on and on little needle exchange yeah yeah exactly yeah i would just make

00:39:57.280 it look like the obama presidential library yeah which doesn't exist i think the contractors are

00:40:02.980 all suing each other over like DEI, like claims of DEI violations.

00:40:07.120 It's like they're building the eyesore on I-4.

00:40:09.480 If anybody's ever heard of the eyesore on I-4, go look it up.

00:40:12.420 That's like, what, 30 years in the making in Altamont?

00:40:15.000 Yes.

00:40:15.960 Well, the Gavin Newsom, what do you put in, Pollock?

00:40:20.760 What's your contribution to the Gavin Newsom legacy exhibit?

00:40:25.600 I think what we should do is do like a give a penny, take a penny, and start with a lot

00:40:31.500 of pennies.

00:40:32.000 and then as the pennies all disappear,

00:40:34.180 it would be the perfect example of the way he governs.

00:40:36.920 It's like, I'm going to start with all this money

00:40:38.340 and then we're not going to have any.

00:40:39.880 Is there any better?

00:40:40.660 Because you know, those homeless people

00:40:42.320 that you're going to put under the statue,

00:40:43.880 they're going to come and take all the pennies

00:40:45.420 and then it's the perfect tribute to Gavin Newsom.

00:40:47.680 Give a penny, take a penny.

00:40:48.360 You've got to have an eternal flame, right?

00:40:49.920 Burning houses down.

00:40:50.800 That goes out.

00:40:51.640 So there was that $20 million,

00:40:53.380 but then there was recently in the last couple of months,

00:40:55.720 there was another $20 million campaign

00:40:57.340 that he started to improve the image of California.

00:41:00.640 why are we paying for that we're paying for his presidential run i mean that's what this is oh

00:41:07.780 you view that as just a straight-up taxpayer fund for his political yeah absolutely he's trying to

00:41:13.080 make he's trying to you know all states he's trying to polish a turd to be clear all states

00:41:16.700 have a fund to promote business investment and tourism to that state it's a common yeah but

00:41:23.100 this is right as he's leaving you know right before 2028 starts kicking in he sets up this

00:41:28.220 taxpayer fund to make his state look good and himself especially and now we've got another 20

00:41:33.000 million dollars for a gold statue of newsom it's just you know he's not winning in any of these

00:41:38.120 polls no he's not i know ahead it's incredible it's very surprising i i have friends who are

00:41:44.620 democrats and that probably surprises people uh but i i gotta ask some of them like are you guys

00:41:49.940 really sitting around saying what we really need is another run at this well do democrats believe

00:41:56.420 that we just didn't see enough of Kamala Harris? 0.97

00:41:59.220 Because the whole campaign she was running 1.00

00:42:00.660 seemed to be to show as little of her as possible.

00:42:03.100 Are you surprised she's in there?

00:42:04.140 No, it doesn't matter.

00:42:05.900 Because it's whatever the media tells people about these.

00:42:08.580 Remember, what was it, ABC? 1.00

00:42:09.820 They edited her interview to make her not look stupid. 0.98

00:42:13.220 So it's whatever, and this is the power of the media, 0.99

00:42:15.840 and this is the power of X,

00:42:17.500 and this is the power of creating alternatives

00:42:19.300 to the fake news and getting people comfortable

00:42:21.440 with getting off of the legacy platforms.

00:42:23.440 because it's whatever the media tells your everyday person

00:42:27.820 who's just working and coming home,

00:42:29.040 closing the garage and cooking dinner about the candidates. 0.99

00:42:31.200 They'll portray the Republican as being this bad buffoon. 0.96

00:42:34.940 They'll portray Kamala as being like, 1.00

00:42:37.240 oh my God, look at all the glass ceiling she's breaking. 1.00

00:42:39.480 Look at all of the different races she makes up. 1.00

00:42:42.100 And then before you know it, 1.00

00:42:43.260 women will come home and go,

00:42:46.060 oh, I really like Kamala. 1.00

00:42:47.820 I have normie friends and as retarded as it is, 1.00

00:42:51.460 They want to elect Kamala because she's a black woman. 0.99

00:42:54.360 Yeah, wouldn't it be so great for our country? 1.00

00:42:56.100 It would be so great.

00:42:57.960 Inflation will be at like 11%, and the only thing that will save you is if you've bought gold.

00:43:03.580 The debt will be over $40 trillion if Kamala got elected.

00:43:08.900 And right now, gas is up 50% since February.

00:43:12.200 Washington spends more money, prints more money, your savings burn.

00:43:15.660 I was in Congress.

00:43:16.660 I saw how it worked, and they will not stop.

00:43:19.000 That means the dollar might be on a long losing streak, and the only question is whether you get out before it's too late.

00:43:25.060 A lot of the smart money already has, and it's going to gold, silver, real assets.

00:43:29.820 Goldman Sachs has gold at $5,400 by year's end.

00:43:32.540 J.P. Morgan says $6,300.

00:43:35.080 Silver exploded 147% last year.

00:43:37.800 Bank of America sees it hitting $135 an ounce before December.

00:43:42.060 It's not just predictions that we're seeing.

00:43:43.740 It's real movement.

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00:44:11.900 Well, you know, Matt, gold is a great hedge against Democrats winning.

00:44:14.920 Because when Democrats win, inflation goes up, right?

00:44:17.380 The gold always goes up.

00:44:19.220 The gold has been on a run.

00:44:20.500 And crypto.

00:44:22.020 Crypto goes down when Democrats win, too.

00:44:23.560 But gold doesn't drop like crypto does.

00:44:25.360 The crypto bros are worried that the Democrats want to throw them in jail.

00:44:28.320 Exactly. 0.98

00:44:30.020 That's always kind of as we get into the coalition that it takes to win.

00:44:34.000 Trump had this historic coalition, right?

00:44:36.920 Working class people, all races, all generations. 0.97

00:44:41.760 You had the crypto bros. 1.00

00:44:43.040 You had the Maha moms.

00:44:44.340 And I just wonder, like, is that precisely the coalition going into the midterms? Is it shifting? Is it different or durable? How do you see it, Pearson?

00:44:55.840 I think that Trump has awoken this America first concept that a lot of Americans have been sitting on for the last couple of decades of abuse that we've endured. And I think that might exist parallel or even independent of him at this point, because I think a lot of people have just this spirit of anger from everything that we've had to put up with and that that America first embodies that.

00:45:21.760 And so I think whether it's Maha or MAGA or whatever it is, we have this burning desire for just freedom, just freedom from the tyranny that we've endured.

00:45:32.680 And so I think that is going to go into the midterms. And I'd love to be optimistic about it.

00:45:38.340 The primaries that we've seen so far have been very inspirational. So hopefully we can take that and win something.

00:45:44.600 This week I had the chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, I'm sorry, the National Republican Party, Joe Gruders, he did lead the Republican Party of Florida.

00:45:52.740 I had him on my show and I asked him, you know, who the villain is going to be.

00:45:56.920 And he kind of said, you know, all of them.

00:45:58.500 But you know that elections are choices, right?

00:46:02.020 And there comes a point where you really do need to paint a vivid picture of what the world looks like if the other side wins.

00:46:08.060 Do you look at any of these folks and say, Momdani, Pritzker, Newsom, that's the villain we want?

00:46:18.200 You know, I think the villain we want is the images of what happened the last time they were in charge.

00:46:26.220 Because there's always going to be—

00:46:27.460 So you'd run against Biden again?

00:46:28.920 No, I would run against the Democrat playbook.

00:46:31.340 I would highlight the fact that remember when Democrats took control in the midterms, what was it, in 2018, it was immediately impeachments and government shutdowns and chaos and crisis.

00:46:43.140 Remember what they did leading up to 2020 with the George Floyd nonsense.

00:46:46.260 They celebrate George Floyd on Memorial Day, not our fallen soldiers.

00:46:48.920 Thanks, DNC.

00:46:50.400 We need to highlight what the chaos that they brought into this country in order to win an election.

00:46:55.740 When Democrats win, they're willing to burn this country down and rule over its ashes to avoid ever losing again.

00:47:02.180 So there's always going to be another villain.

00:47:03.740 It's the Democrat Party itself.

00:47:05.460 That is the villain.

00:47:06.560 And you just have to look at their track record.

00:47:08.180 Anytime you give them an ounce of power, look what they do with it.

00:47:10.760 They'll investigate.

00:47:11.640 They'll imprison.

00:47:12.260 They'll impeach.

00:47:13.000 They'll shut down.

00:47:13.820 And then they'll blame Republicans.

00:47:15.420 And they say, only we can solve the problems we create.

00:47:17.580 And then they have no solutions.

00:47:19.040 I think they understand that.

00:47:20.000 Cory Booker was talking about that.

00:47:22.140 The Democrats have a big problem on their hands.

00:47:23.900 And it's their image.

00:47:25.020 and then you just have the the 2024 autopsy that came out you know that that disaster autopsy

00:47:31.700 no autopsy this is never a good idea to do this is this is something that fundraisers and political

00:47:39.360 consultants use to justify all of the lies that were told when they were frothing up and glazing

00:47:46.100 right their own supporters it's like it wasn't cute or effective when we did it after mitt romney

00:47:52.720 got smoked it is similarly kind of silly what's strange to me and what's frightening is that

00:47:59.480 when you look at the shift in views over the years you see a graph you know the left is just going

00:48:06.500 further and further and further to the rep to the left the overton window is shifting further on

00:48:11.780 their side newsom says we get they're going to be more culturally normal yeah well he says whatever

00:48:15.440 you know you can't believe anything it doesn't matter but that's not him trying but but to be

00:48:19.380 clear that's not him trying to drag the party to the left it's aoc mom donnie yeah that that crew

00:48:25.160 that's trying to drag him to the left and i think there's a different group that's kind of the

00:48:28.700 newsom group saying let's at least go tell people we're not going to try to like regender their

00:48:34.360 family even though that's exactly what he's trying to do but well and how did that work out though

00:48:38.300 for republicans and and this is the democrats are about to learn the hard lesson that the gop

00:48:42.660 establishment is finally learning and that's uh they can hold on to their version of a party that

00:48:49.220 they think exists that actually no longer exists the mandanis and the aocs the kamala harrises

00:48:55.120 that is the party right but gavin newsom and the consultant class of the democrat party the reason

00:49:00.900 for the autopsy is to be like see this new stuff that aoc is trying to what that autopsy was was

00:49:06.660 they're like sort of we're preparing to tell you that the campaigns that they're going to run is

00:49:11.400 bad for us to convince the donors to convince the democrats that are not comfortable with actual

00:49:16.440 socialism for the young people yeah but yeah they view i mean the young people were the strongest

00:49:21.420 part of trump's coalition voters under the age of 30 went for trump more than any other age group

00:49:26.700 and they will not survive if we maintain that and so they are going right at those young voters

00:49:32.940 and i think the discussion is around a lot of the themes we've had in this podcast which is like

00:49:38.120 they're going to say well what what has capitalism done for you what did tariffs do for you what did

00:49:43.200 AI do for you, we're promising you free stuff. We're promising you universal basic income.

00:49:50.260 And I think it takes precisely the discipline that you outlined to walk people down that road

00:49:56.120 and what it really means. And that is hard. I think you have to have a villain. I think you

00:50:02.260 have to really point to the worst excesses here in California, the worst things we see going on

00:50:08.720 of new york i think you have to you have to almost humanize that agenda right maybe it's aoc maybe

00:50:13.460 she's the big villain yeah but what's scary is that they're not moderating the democrats aren't

00:50:17.760 moderating we've seen polls show that as unpopular as the gop is right now democrats are even more

00:50:25.020 unpopular they're radically unpopular and even seeing that they are still going further to the

00:50:31.200 left they are going more and more radical they're not moderating and so i don't know where they're

00:50:36.140 going to try and pull the party but they don't care that they're leaving the middle behind

00:50:39.880 and that's scary we have to be ready to seize that middle yeah and trump was

00:50:43.880 trump was with that broad coalition and we got to be ready that's well and zoomers surprisingly

00:50:50.160 zoomers are actually really conservative like radically conservative a lot of them are i i

00:50:55.800 think there are a lot of particularly men in the zoomer generation who see how uh the the promises 0.54

00:51:03.960 of liberalism and post-modernism led to divorce loneliness uh mental health problems addiction to 0.66

00:51:12.000 social media and they want something better and it's it's a it's always a dual task in a campaign

00:51:18.000 you know you have to you have to really show in technicolor what the other side is doing taking

00:51:22.460 your house away and giving it to an illegal alien and then part of politics still is the motivation

00:51:27.520 of inspiration and giving people a sense that if they ride with you that things will be better and

00:51:32.540 Things are always better when I ride with the two of you.

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - May 28, 2026

The Anchormen Show EP 131 - Man vs. Machine： The Great A.I. Debate w⧸ David Pollack

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