The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - The Anchormen Show EP 133 - Man vs. Machine： Golden State Gut Check

00:00:00.000 now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson sharp

00:00:11.180 welcome back to another episode of anchorman i'm matt gates host the matt gates show

00:00:17.820 nine o'clock eastern six pacific every weeknight on one america news i'm joined as always by the

00:00:23.620 host of the sharp report which will just come on if you watch one america news long enough i promise

00:00:28.560 Pearson Sharp, always good to have you.

00:00:30.620 And we are joined back by popular demand, the host of David Pollock Primetime.

00:00:35.880 That is the leadoff hitter for our outstanding primetime lineup, 7 o'clock Eastern, 4 o'clock Pacific.

00:00:41.920 Love the show.

00:00:42.840 Love the analysis.

00:00:43.840 Let's just get right into the big story of the week, the California elections.

00:00:48.220 We get the California elections.

00:00:49.980 And let me just give you a little feedback, Californian Pearson.

00:00:53.760 I was disappointed at the lack of energy.

00:00:56.520 David and I have talked about Florida politics, man.

00:00:59.480 It is a little weird.

00:01:00.700 It is a little crazy, but it is up close and personal.

00:01:03.400 If you go to a major polling place in Florida on Election Day, you're going to see somebody's aunt, uncle, parent, abuela out campaigning for them.

00:01:13.100 You're going to see volunteers on the big street corners waving, driving Election Day awareness.

00:01:18.780 You're going to see signage.

00:01:19.400 signage in south florida there will be a pig roasting somewhere near a hialeah voting precinct

00:01:27.080 and here in california like all i saw were these signs and like you know seven different languages

00:01:33.620 about where to vote paid for by the taxpayer and no real candidate activity for any office

00:01:40.820 anywhere what what am i missing about the doldrums of this place i mean that just makes me want to

00:01:45.320 move to Florida, honestly. That's a great endorsement for Florida. I would be the Florida

00:01:50.940 man in all the headlines, every story. But I think that just shows, I mean, we're demoralized

00:01:58.540 in California. I mean, there's no hope here. There is, as those seven different languages,

00:02:04.520 and I think it's probably an underselling, I think it's probably like 12 on there,

00:02:08.280 demonstrate there's a balkanization in this state. It's just been broken apart. And that's

00:02:14.180 the goal of the democratic party to break everybody apart because that way we're easier

00:02:17.660 to rule and crush um and so having no enthusiasm is exactly what they want we have no hope we have

00:02:24.960 nothing to hope for it's just they've destroyed this state and that's what they want us to feel

00:02:29.300 politics drives energy to election day in florida david you've been involved in a lot of these

00:02:35.960 campaigns you've been probably standing shoulder to shoulder at a polling place on election day

00:02:43.040 Were you kind of let down by the experience here in California?

00:02:45.380 Yeah, it's different.

00:02:46.680 I guess that's why Florida is so red, because we get out there, we get excited, we know what's at stake.

00:02:52.280 I mean, I had to stand as a candidate.

00:02:54.520 I'm sure you've done it as well, for two weeks of early voting.

00:02:57.100 Every single day, picking the polling place that I thought would be the busiest.

00:03:00.040 I loved it.

00:03:00.880 Yeah.

00:03:01.220 Because then you were talking to the actual boss.

00:03:03.260 The actual people.

00:03:04.100 I've gotten voters on their way in to vote, and you're like, wait, you're actually the candidate?

00:03:07.460 I'm like, yeah, I'm the candidate.

00:03:08.460 That's so cool.

00:03:09.200 You got four new votes.

00:03:10.520 And being out there does make a difference.

00:03:12.040 I used to make a sign, and I would put I am on it, and I would hold up my sign, and one time I actually cut out a circle and put my face through it.

00:03:18.440 And I was like, you got to do whatever you can to make an impression on people.

00:03:22.140 But yeah, and I think this is the difference, though.

00:03:24.340 In Florida, the grassroots really do have a lot to do on our side with the outcome of an election.

00:03:30.440 California, it seems the grassroots is completely controlled by the left, and the grassroots here, and I talked about this on my show tonight, it's a different machine.

00:03:40.020 the grassroots effort in california seems to be making sure everybody mails their ballots in

00:03:45.120 making sure everybody fills out their ballots it doesn't seem like they need energy at the

00:03:49.440 polling stations all the energy is in collecting the ballots by the time you got to election doesn't

00:03:54.480 matter the energy has been expended exactly that's what i think the difference is that is such a smart

00:03:59.780 take is that is that right is the is the if that's true that is a sophistication on the left

00:04:05.540 that was actually rather impressive.

00:04:07.340 Well, yeah, absolutely.

00:04:08.480 And I think the other part of this is,

00:04:10.900 you know, what are we on the right?

00:04:12.200 There's like 6 million voters,

00:04:14.400 6 million Republican voters in California.

00:04:16.340 What do we have to be excited about?

00:04:17.700 The four remaining, you know,

00:04:20.220 representatives that we have in this state?

00:04:21.980 There's nothing that we can do here.

00:04:23.360 Well, let's get into those results

00:04:24.820 and the genesis of some excitement, Pearson,

00:04:26.780 because in a lot of these races,

00:04:30.120 historically, you don't even have a Republican

00:04:32.760 in the general election.

00:04:34.500 No. Like the way the Democrats have rigged the state started with ending the argument and the clash of ideas that you get in a general election with two different political parties. But this cycle, the Republicans did enough to get a Republican into the general election in every major contest.

00:04:54.180 Now, you and I both know the odds of any of them winning are quite low, but before you win, you've got to be in a position to make the argument.

00:05:03.560 Bobby Bowden, the great late coach of the Florida State Seminoles, I think stole the line from Bear Bryant.

00:05:10.360 First you lose by a lot, then you lose by a little, then you win by a little, then you win by a lot.

00:05:15.820 And even getting to losing by lower margins, you've got to have a horse in the race.

00:05:21.020 So is that not some silver lining to draw from this, or is Pearson Sharp still unsatisfied?

00:05:29.000 I'm always unsatisfied.

00:05:30.780 But I think there's a couple of components here that are interesting.

00:05:34.640 And I think that we've gotten to the point where, you know, a Republican couldn't win 10 years ago.

00:05:39.940 And now we've got someone who, a couple people who actually may have a chance.

00:05:44.180 And I think that's because things have gotten so bad in the state, so bad, you can't ignore them anymore.

00:05:51.020 But that's not just enough.

00:05:52.280 You can't just have a deplorable state of existence.

00:05:54.360 You have to have someone worth voting for.

00:05:56.540 And we've had terrible Republican candidates the last couple of years.

00:06:00.360 Just nobody to get excited about.

00:06:02.120 You got Spencer Pratt.

00:06:03.320 John Cox.

00:06:04.700 You got Steve Hilton.

00:06:06.440 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:06:07.160 Now, previously, we had nobody to be excited for.

00:06:09.580 You got a great guy running for attorney general, Michael Gates.

00:06:12.140 We have people to be excited about.

00:06:14.040 We have Spencer Pratt.

00:06:15.020 We have Steve Hilton.

00:06:15.760 People who I think actually not only have a chance, but have a good message

00:06:20.280 and have been consistent about it.

00:06:22.580 Well, dadgummit, next election day,

00:06:25.700 get out on a street corner and wave a sign for one of them, Pearson Sharp.

00:06:29.440 Show us a little energy.

00:06:30.620 I mean, as you look at these campaigns, David, and the results,

00:06:34.460 beyond just the energy level, as we're recording this right now,

00:06:38.760 major news organizations are still saying the second-place finish

00:06:42.400 in the L.A. mayoral contest is too early to call.

00:06:46.500 Oh, yeah.

00:06:46.860 Now, we expect, by the time most people listen to this or watch this, Spencer Pratt will be minted into the runoffs.

00:06:55.300 But, oh, my gosh, if he isn't, what a game.

00:06:57.480 They said it was going to be weeks, weeks before we have the final results.

00:07:00.660 And they're saying that about the governor's race, too.

00:07:02.780 They still said, too close to call.

00:07:04.560 I saw today earlier.

00:07:05.580 They were still saying it was too close to call.

00:07:07.260 But this is, I literally spent an entire 10-minute monologue on this on today, as of Wednesday, when the show is being recorded on my show tonight.

00:07:14.780 Because here's the deal.

00:07:16.600 What we saw last night, it might not result in Spencer Pratt becoming mayor.

00:07:20.540 It might not result in Steve Hilton becoming governor.

00:07:22.680 It would be great, but it might not result that way.

00:07:24.600 However, you saw, if you look at the map of California and you look at county by county,

00:07:29.200 California is a red state with a couple of blue dots.

00:07:33.060 San Diego went red last night.

00:07:34.980 San Diego is red again.

00:07:37.020 So there are Republican voters here.

00:07:39.180 There are conservatives here.

00:07:40.120 There are the people who want to see this state be what it could be.

00:07:45.260 However, the blue cities have it on lockdown. And like I said before, the issue is they have their voting collection system set up like a machine.

00:07:53.720 And so we have right now in Washington, D.C., legislation that could bust up that machine a little because we've already known we're not allowed to talk about elections after the elections.

00:08:03.380 Right. That's a bad word. You can get canceled for that.

00:08:06.740 Cancelled.

00:08:07.640 Jailed.

00:08:08.100 Right, jailed.

00:08:09.080 But we can.

00:08:10.040 I asked Tina Peters, right?

00:08:11.460 But you can talk about how to prevent questions before the election, and yet John Thune is still sitting there.

00:08:18.540 I don't have the votes.

00:08:20.100 This is why the Save America Act is so absolutely important.

00:08:22.540 He doesn't have the votes.

00:08:23.600 He needs to get them.

00:08:24.780 Go and get them.

00:08:26.000 Get the votes.

00:08:26.460 Well, he's going to say he would sit here, and I'm rarely a defender of John Thune, but he would sit here and say, how do I get Mitch McConnell's vote?

00:08:33.880 How do I get Cassidy's vote?

00:08:35.680 Butterscotch. 0.99

00:08:36.160 How do I get corn and corn?

00:08:37.260 Butterscotch.

00:08:37.920 There are ways to get things from people.

00:08:39.880 It's leverage, political leverage.

00:08:41.500 You deal trade.

00:08:42.440 How do you end up with 50?

00:08:43.300 You were in Congress.

00:08:44.160 How do you end up with 50 tons of pork in legislation that should be much more lean?

00:08:48.340 Well, they make deals to get votes.

00:08:49.900 So in the Senate, what's important to them?

00:08:51.540 Honestly, you're just describing my failed confirmation strategy for the Attorney General.

00:08:55.100 I did believe at one point, I was like, you know, a lot of these folks, they don't really like me.

00:08:58.980 I maybe said some ugly stuff about them on social media, maybe attacked their voting record or whatever.

00:09:03.980 but like there'll be a grand deal in the end like mitchell kind of get something and he'll have to

00:09:09.420 swallow the fact that maybe he doesn't love me or he doesn't love heggseth no it turned out for me

00:09:14.300 they were all in no matter what no no grand bargain no grand deal and i think that the trump

00:09:20.640 hatred among some of those senators uh whose career he has ended he functionally ended mitch

00:09:27.080 mcconnell's career as the leader yeah he ended cornyn's career he ended cassidy's career there's

00:09:31.780 a few more probably it's going to be tough to find like the bridge they want built that's going to

00:09:36.840 cause them to vote for the save america act well look i don't say this and i'll toss it over to you

00:09:43.200 pearson this is part of their plan though and the more we talk about this the more we highlight their

00:09:48.300 plan the more likely we are to stop it but you saw what happened in the house today they just voted

00:09:52.840 to restrict president trump's war powers in the house so it's not just the senate i think the

00:09:57.880 establishment is fighting back. The establishment saw what happened to Cornyn, saw what happened

00:10:01.860 to Cassidy. They're fighting back because they know, and I've said this on this podcast the first

00:10:05.700 time I was here. I say this on my show all the time. The establishment, this is their last stand.

00:10:10.940 MAGA wins in November. We keep the House. Guess what? The MAGA candidates are the rulers of this

00:10:16.680 party. But if we lose the House, guess what? They're going to say, well, we need to pivot for

00:10:21.340 MAGA. I've said this. That is what we're dealing with right now. That's why Thune won't pass the

00:10:24.920 Save America Act, I think just like Democrats, I think all the swamp is the same. Politicians are

00:10:29.620 willing to burn it down and rule over the ashes than to lose power in it. And that's what I think

00:10:34.720 is what we're seeing with the Save America. They don't care if we lose in November, if it means we

00:10:37.840 get rid of MAGA and MAGA is fighting back. We need to keep talking about this. We need to keep

00:10:41.820 encouraging MAGA. And what you said a minute ago, Pearson, that people feel dejected and they don't

00:10:45.960 have the motivation to vote in the state. But you know what they do? They can see us making headwinds

00:10:50.360 in this state and then they can go into those red states and where they have the power, where people

00:10:54.360 do wave the signs and start fighting harder. And that is how I think we take this country back.

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00:11:30.540 i think also you know what he said um just all of that um but i think trump and the republicans

00:11:38.360 need to make a huge deal out of california we've been the forgotten state they've given up on us

00:11:43.300 they need to come through here like a bulldozer and just bust this state up as loudly and proudly

00:11:47.880 as they possibly can bust it up what give part of it to nevada no bust up the establishment here

00:11:55.380 just just put us under the magnifying glass and expose everything that's happening here and don't

00:11:59.660 just write us off because democrats always win here i think that's the tendency that they've had

00:12:03.640 i believe you've seen uh the secretary of the sba the the leader of the sba kelly leffler here

00:12:10.560 expressing some of that's phenomenal the fraud in san diego i think huge i think you've seen you

00:12:15.560 know the vice president making yeah we're starting to see that we're starting to see that but i want

00:12:18.780 more of it you know more cowbell for pearson yeah absolutely more of what i'm currently getting is

00:12:23.620 what the host of the sharp report wants and something else interesting with what i was

00:12:27.540 talking about earlier is they they went down skid row some reporters did and they interviewed like

00:12:31.780 there's a couple hundred people on skid row and they were all like we don't like karen bass we

00:12:36.060 think she needs to get out of here like we we hate this situation that we're stuck in we feel trapped

00:12:40.760 here they've been doing this to us for decades like how do we fix this situation so like even

00:12:45.960 when you're losing the homeless people who are supposedly that you're bread and butter you know

00:12:50.460 that's what chad bianco has been karen bass's bread and butter is an army of illegal alien

00:12:55.780 voters you have no plan oh yeah and spencer pratt has no plan well and that's another problem our

00:13:01.620 Our deportations need to just go through the roof at this point.

00:13:04.620 That's a huge disappointment.

00:13:06.560 Greg Bovino came out and was talking about the numbers that he saw when he was in office.

00:13:10.700 We have over 100 million illegals in this country.

00:13:14.860 100 million plus their kids.

00:13:17.180 I mean, that's over a quarter of the population of the United States.

00:13:20.280 A lot of their kids are U.S. citizens.

00:13:22.620 That's another discussion.

00:13:23.460 Until the Supreme Court rules.

00:13:24.020 Yeah, that's another discussion.

00:13:24.920 Until the Supreme Court rules.

00:13:25.300 Yeah.

00:13:26.020 The other big story I want to talk about outside of California goes global.

00:13:29.260 explosive Axios report that as Trump, Trump the peacemaker, is laudably trying to bring an end

00:13:38.180 to this costly war, try to bring prices down, try to bring the price of fuel down. As he's working

00:13:44.500 to do all that, Israel is continuing to just gazify Lebanon. They are laying waste to Lebanon. 0.91

00:13:51.740 They are blowing up apartment buildings. They are leveling entire communities. And I am not, 1.00

00:13:58.220 I'm no defender of Hezbollah, but not every person in Lebanon is Hezbollah.

00:14:03.580 There are a bunch of those people who are being impacted by this war who have no sympathies for Hezbollah.

00:14:08.500 Trump gets on the phone, says to Netanyahu, this is why everybody hates Israel.

00:14:14.560 You would be in jail if not for me.

00:14:17.740 And drop some F-bombs on the prime minister of Israel.

00:14:22.080 David, how are you talking about this monumental event on David Pollack primetime?

00:14:26.580 Well, look, I talked to with Owen Schroer yesterday about this, actually, because what did Trump do?

00:14:33.300 Apparently, according to Axios, very credible reporting.

00:14:36.660 Well, I mean, Trump confirmed it.

00:14:37.740 Well, right.

00:14:38.600 So we'll throw them above. 0.84

00:14:40.380 By the way, that was such an Israel first reaction.

00:14:43.180 Like, well, this is just like a false Axios report.

00:14:45.440 And then Trump's asked about it.

00:14:46.560 And he's like, yeah, I said those things.

00:14:47.760 Well, you have to assume, right?

00:14:49.320 But here's the thing, though.

00:14:51.480 So for so long, people were shouting that, you know, basically Trump's a puppet for Israel.

00:14:56.580 Everything we do is for Israel. We're in Iran because of Israel.

00:14:58.900 And then what does Trump do?

00:14:59.820 He tells off Netanyahu using expletives saying, stop what you're doing.

00:15:03.380 Let us handle stuff.

00:15:04.320 So it shows you that Trump is in more control over this situation over there than I think he's been given a lot of credit for.

00:15:10.060 And so that's my takeaway from this.

00:15:12.280 What do you think Benjamin Netanyahu's takeaway should be?

00:15:15.280 Benjamin Netanyahu should, what do you mean, with respect to Lebanon?

00:15:18.440 Look, Israel will do what Israel feels is necessary to protect itself, but the United States needs to do what the United States feels it needs to do to protect itself.

00:15:25.800 And if there's some tension there, then so be it.

00:15:28.160 But that's the good thing.

00:15:29.120 But I'm going to probe you on how you think that tension erupts.

00:15:33.220 If Netanyahu, who subsequent to these discussions has posted on social media that the military campaign will continue in Lebanon, if that continues, what happens in your mind?

00:15:44.660 Well, I mean, that's between President Trump and Netanyahu to deal with diplomatically.

00:15:47.440 diplomatically. It's not like we're going to go to war with

00:15:49.380 Israel. But look, we send a lot of... What should be the 0.58

00:15:51.420 consequence? Well, we send a lot of aid there. So certainly Trump

00:15:53.380 has carrots to dangle and say,

00:15:55.540 hey, look, either get on board or we 1.00

00:15:57.420 can mess with this aid. And I think

00:15:59.380 that's the big argument that a lot of America

00:16:01.360 First people say. Okay, well, hold on. I want to pause you right there.

00:16:03.440 Sure, sure. Because I think that's very important.

00:16:05.640 Right now, we have an

00:16:07.460 aid structure that we can

00:16:09.340 toggle. And what David, I think,

00:16:11.420 is using a lot of common sense to

00:16:13.260 suggest is that now, under our current

00:16:15.220 structure we should toggle that aid if netanyahu is non-compliant with what is a pretty reasonable

00:16:21.060 demand of president trump's that toggle will not exist if the current version of the ndaa is passed

00:16:29.700 it will not what david just suggested is a right just and proper thing for a responsible country

00:16:36.280 to do will not even be an option on the table if we fuse the department of war in the united states

00:16:43.360 with Israel, with IDF, and with Israel.

00:16:47.640 So, Pearson, why would any congressperson, Republican or Democrat,

00:16:55.100 believe that it is not a debasing surrender of America's sovereignty

00:17:00.600 to just **** like this?

00:17:04.540 Wow. You know why. 0.99

00:17:06.420 AIPAC. I mean, and everything else that goes with it.

00:17:09.240 There is so much that was just said in the last couple minutes

00:17:11.680 that needs to be unpacked.

00:17:13.480 Well, let's unpack it.

00:17:14.240 That's what podcasts are for.

00:17:17.820 First, your comment about Trump

00:17:20.040 not being beholden to Israel

00:17:22.460 as being demonstrated by his conversation with Netanyahu,

00:17:25.580 I don't think that proves that at all.

00:17:27.080 I think Trump was duped into this situation.

00:17:30.640 He was lied to the same way Bush was lied to in 2004.

00:17:34.560 And I think, I mean, Rubio said as much,

00:17:37.260 the rest of the staff said as much,

00:17:38.920 that they told him, absolutely not, don't do this.

00:17:41.240 and he just went ahead and did it anyway

00:17:43.140 because of a couple meetings with Netanyahu.

00:17:46.460 I'm making some assumptions,

00:17:47.640 but that's certainly how it appears.

00:17:49.640 So I think Trump does have a limit.

00:17:51.620 He is a reasonable thinking person,

00:17:53.000 and I think he's looking at this situation going,

00:17:55.040 oh my God, what the hell are you doing?

00:17:57.100 Well, let's pause there for a second on the dupe thing,

00:17:58.880 and then we'll take issue by issue,

00:18:00.920 and then I'm sure it'll lead to an interesting discussion.

00:18:03.840 I broke down the benefits to the United States.

00:18:06.500 I know, look, I get there's detriments too.

00:18:07.960 People are not happy with what they're paying at the pump.

00:18:09.780 don't hand wave

00:18:12.220 that's not a minor issue

00:18:13.260 it's a temporary issue

00:18:16.080 just like tariffs, everybody freaked out about tariffs

00:18:17.920 the market reacted

00:18:18.600 so people will get a rebate

00:18:21.720 no, they'll temporarily pay higher prices

00:18:23.760 will you be getting a rebate

00:18:25.140 I want to point out, I have a 57 gallon fuel tank

00:18:28.000 in my truck

00:18:28.680 and I paid over $300 the last time I filled up

00:18:31.880 it's temporary

00:18:32.440 but let's pause for a second on that

00:18:34.980 I don't think Trump was duped into it

00:18:37.700 because I think Trump saw an opportunity

00:18:39.820 Now, regardless of the reasons why we went to Israel, we can disagree with whether or not he took Netanyahu's, you know, for what it was worth.

00:18:48.540 But Trump saw an opportunity, I believe, to realign America from an energy perspective.

00:18:53.160 And we saw it with the nexus between Venezuela, Cuba, Iran.

00:18:56.480 And just the other day, we just inked a deal with Japan to buy our oil, I think, for the first time ever.

00:19:01.640 And now China can't get oil from the Strait of Hormuz because of the issues we're having with Iran.

00:19:06.820 So what we're doing right now—

00:19:07.860 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:19:08.560 You're saying Pearson should just soak up the CCP's pain as he's filling up the 57 calendar?

00:19:14.900 No, what I'm suggesting is I think you can – we don't know what's in President Trump's mind.

00:19:20.080 I voted for him three times.

00:19:21.720 I believe he has – when I say America first, I believe Trump is 100 percent America first.

00:19:26.640 And I believe when he saw an opportunity to deal with a 70-year enemy of the United States and potentially take opportunity of the power play right now between Russia's tied up with Ukraine, China.

00:19:37.600 they're a little bit shaky right now everybody's really shaky since the pandemic and trump saw a

00:19:42.040 major opportunity everybody needs a distraction so not a distraction but we have a geopolitical

00:19:45.940 realignment opportunity with south america strengthening with russia tied up in ukraine

00:19:50.160 with china weaker than what they have been realigned in iran i want to i want to same

00:19:53.740 leaders i want to jump in a second one less because you're talking about this this opportunity

00:19:57.820 i'd like to know what that opportunity is sure um but you're talking about his his strategic

00:20:02.560 energy moves the when you mentioned venezuela the first shipment of oil we got out of venezuela

00:20:09.120 we sent to israel right that's not helping america on top of that we have 20 of our domestic

00:20:16.060 production or more goes overseas we produce it and we send it to why doesn't that help america

00:20:20.860 because i'm paying 300 to fill up my friggin truck but you're not paying 300 to fill up your

00:20:25.920 truck because a tanker from venezuela went to israel we know but we're sending oil everywhere 0.92

00:20:29.840 else. Right, but we also import a lot of oil

00:20:31.820 too. We import the oil that we need because we can't

00:20:34.300 refine some

00:20:35.880 of the oil we produce. And that should be something

00:20:37.800 that we address as well. Yeah, we should.

00:20:39.600 Let me push you to the edge of that policy

00:20:41.720 question. Do you believe that during

00:20:43.800 the U.S. war with Iran

00:20:45.860 that we should have an export ban

00:20:47.260 on these fuels that Americans

00:20:49.860 are paying higher prices for?

00:20:52.340 That is a complicated question.

00:20:53.980 Very complicated. And it

00:20:55.460 exposes the frailty and like the impulse

00:20:58.100 of just wanting to ban. That takes me

00:20:59.720 out of my depth of understanding the complexity

00:21:01.520 of this issue. My instinct is to say

00:21:03.500 I would like to turn as much

00:21:05.400 production as possible towards

00:21:07.620 the United States to help out our own people

00:21:09.420 first, but I understand that

00:21:11.520 there are gears and mechanisms in place that might make

00:21:13.560 that unreasonable or unfeasible.

00:21:16.020 But I still think... Couldn't catch you on it.

00:21:18.080 But I still think

00:21:19.100 that there is a line that

00:21:21.480 we have crossed in terms of sending out

00:21:23.600 energy when we could be keeping it for ourselves

00:21:25.440 and distributing

00:21:26.700 our own resources to other places in the world.

00:21:29.220 But we do have the energy for ourselves.

00:21:31.040 We have enough.

00:21:31.520 We use what we can from what we have.

00:21:34.540 We export what we don't need.

00:21:35.700 What we can't produce, we have to import.

00:21:38.020 No, we are the largest exporter of liquid natural.

00:21:40.180 No, I need a lot of it.

00:21:42.840 We use what we produce.

00:21:44.360 We still need certain types of oil that we can't produce for our own refinery purposes.

00:21:48.320 I understand there's a difference between the sweet, crude, heavy, and all that other stuff.

00:21:51.420 I've never tried them to know why they call it light sweet or whatever.

00:21:55.060 but there are definitely

00:21:57.880 arguments to be made for altering

00:21:59.860 our process here in the United States

00:22:01.920 which would take decades though

00:22:03.060 either way

00:22:04.640 the other part was about Israel

00:22:07.960 and Lebanon which is just

00:22:09.640 a massive topic in and of itself

00:22:11.520 I have a personal perspective

00:22:13.780 on that and that my wife is Lebanese

00:22:15.320 and her family

00:22:17.380 had to flee the country

00:22:19.200 because of the war

00:22:21.800 that was going on and because their town was being

00:22:23.600 carpet bombed by israel but why was their town being carpet bombed by israel that's a great

00:22:27.920 question yeah that is a great question it is a great question but it gets coasted to the heart 0.96

00:22:32.160 and i i do agree hamas evil 100 and needs to be wiped out i mean i know so many people who have

00:22:39.440 personal stories about what hamas has done to them you know no argument about that but that doesn't

00:22:44.720 absolve israel for the way that they're going about it i mean they they feel the same about

00:22:48.980 hezbollah in lebanon it's all yeah to me like hamas hezbollah they have they they kind of walk

00:22:56.160 the same and well they do yeah i mean it's part of the government at this point and that's a huge

00:23:00.960 problem well but but there are a lot of neoconservatives who would say the fusion of

00:23:05.700 hezbollah into the security state of lebanon makes lebanon culpable in hezbollah's offensives

00:23:12.800 against northern Israel?

00:23:14.980 How do you approach that question? 0.89

00:23:16.940 I agree to an extent. 0.90

00:23:20.020 Well, that would justify what Israel's doing. 0.86

00:23:21.660 No, that's not a black or white. 0.95

00:23:23.800 There is a way to go about this, to extricate Hamas 0.90

00:23:27.800 and to put pressure on Lebanon to fix this problem. 0.88

00:23:30.920 Because I agree, being part of their government,

00:23:32.780 they do have some responsibility for that.

00:23:34.940 But bombing a thousand-year-old crusader church 0.89

00:23:38.200 and smashing Christian relics across Lebanon 0.64

00:23:42.340 destroying churches just there was a church in a in a small village in the town i can probably

00:23:48.340 find some video that we can put up of this where the israeli soldiers came in and they urinated

00:23:52.440 all over the church they burned it down they kicked the people out i mean this is not the

00:23:56.880 behavior of people who are trying to you know just destroy hamas but it is i mean in lebanon

00:24:01.600 right now who is responsible for the death of more christians is it israel or is it

00:24:05.660 what's going on in lebanon is it hezbollah i mean that's a that's a well look what they're doing

00:24:11.700 look what they're doing who cares can't they both be wrong exactly let's assume they're even

00:24:16.400 no what i'm they both what i'm suggesting is what i'm suggesting is israel sits there in a very

00:24:24.420 vulnerable place and there's missiles constantly flying and rockets flying into israel from lebanon

00:24:31.140 from hezbollah then they hide them in churches they hide them in schools they hide them in 0.64

00:24:35.060 neighborhoods and then israel's supposed to what just sit around and go yeah it really sucks i'd 0.83

00:24:38.880 love to destroy that missile launcher but i don't want to hit a church because then the press will

00:24:42.560 be really bad israel has to defend itself as you're watching what they're doing and the way

00:24:46.960 they're waging the war yeah does this look like a hezbollah eradication campaign to you or does

00:24:52.660 this look like israel moving the boundaries of their country to everything it looks to me like

00:24:57.780 a like a propaganda campaign because the way i see it is israel has a right to defend i think

00:25:02.620 most people would agree that israel has a right to all sovereign nations have a right to defend

00:25:06.560 themselves. And when you have countries that harbor terrorists, and this was Bush doctrine

00:25:11.040 after 9-11, this was, if you're going to harbor terrorists in your country and we have to go in

00:25:14.780 your country to go after those terrorists, well. So you think the Bush doctrines worked? I don't

00:25:18.720 know if the Bush doctrine worked based on the way it was effectuated. It's rarely cited as authority

00:25:23.760 on expertise. No, but the premise behind it makes sense. How do you fight people in a country,

00:25:28.500 in a sovereign country, that are operating either uncontrolled by that country's government or

00:25:35.260 sometimes at the behest of that country's government maybe you have to acknowledge

00:25:38.360 the limitations on our ability to become the block captain of beirut but it's not our ability

00:25:45.940 this is israel is attacking lebanon trump said to stop so sure it's not ours but anyone's yeah

00:25:51.760 but yeah we live in complicated times terror is a very complicated type of warfare where we're not

00:25:57.740 fighting it's not like world war it's not like the revolutionary war where we're lining up wearing

00:26:01.840 uniforms and declaring who the good guys and the bad guys are there's no white flags we're talking

00:26:07.240 about people who blow people up send rockets they're willing to risk lives of children and

00:26:11.940 they do it because they believe there's a holy payoff for it these are different times and so

00:26:16.460 we have to fight differently and and it's ugly and it's horrible and i feel terrible but what do

00:26:20.920 we do when you say we have to fight differently does that mean we have to blow up apartment

00:26:24.760 buildings is that what we should just what if what if the terrorists are in the apartment

00:26:28.000 buildings do we not children too but so who do you hold responsible for that i certainly don't

00:26:33.300 hold the children who are going to no of course not none of us they're the ones who have to pay

00:26:36.460 the price right but if a terrorist group yeah is is is keeping their weapons in a building where

00:26:42.080 there's children yeah and they're using those weapons to attack another country what do you do

00:26:47.040 just let it keep happening like how do you solve this problem found a pilot based on his heartbeat

00:26:52.940 in the middle of the mountains of persia but we don't have the discernment to not see the murder

00:26:57.780 of children in apartment buildings?

00:26:59.540 And again, if I really believe

00:27:01.620 that this was a Hezbollah eradication effort, 1.00

00:27:04.340 I think I could be pretty enthusiastic about that. 0.87

00:27:07.260 I don't think that's actually the game being played. 0.99

00:27:10.360 I think Israel's trying to expand their boundaries 0.90

00:27:12.860 of their country to allow for more development

00:27:16.340 and allow for more space for the right of return.

00:27:19.020 And so the fact that they're using

00:27:21.060 the Hezbollah narrative as cover 0.86

00:27:23.540 for just what they wanted to do anyway

00:27:25.820 makes it hard for me to believe

00:27:27.500 that the dead children are a necessary component of the hezbollah eradication strategy and not in

00:27:32.120 the minds of some of the israeli government collateral damage for the achievement of greater

00:27:36.720 israel i do i do want to get to this core question though because we're going to see it unfold in the

00:27:40.800 next few days how do you think bb responds to this david i think correctly pointed to what

00:27:47.040 any reasonable u.s policymaker should do which is toggle the aid but right now like does bb take

00:27:53.540 that phone call and say this campaign in lebanon has to look differently it has to it has to not

00:27:59.140 um just be an obvious rebuke of trump's request or is he under so much political pressure you

00:28:06.780 think in israel that that campaign has to go on and he almost has to dare trump to make the move

00:28:12.720 that david described i would love to see him pull back i would love to see there be some kind of

00:28:17.660 what do you think he's going to do it won't be an admission of we were wrong and we're going to

00:28:21.700 stop this i think it'll be a spin on what's been happening and god i would love to see him pull

00:28:27.060 back and just do you think he does i'm gonna make you actually answer my question yeah i know

00:28:32.540 it's it's so hard to answer matt that's so hard to answer maybe david will answer it does i'm gonna

00:28:39.240 i'll say i'll say yes okay with caveats you know i don't think it's gonna be a complete i'm gonna

00:28:45.040 do exactly what trump told me to do i think it'll it'll be a pullback slightly and the campaign

00:28:50.820 will change its nature um israel has done that in the past before with lebanon they've been in

00:28:56.000 there you were looking at targeted raids yanking hezbollah guys and hauling them back for justice

00:29:01.620 i think i think that is something very that's reasonable easy to understand and you could

00:29:07.920 continue the campaign in that capacity right but that doesn't get to greater israel what do you

00:29:11.800 think bb does david so i think what we're seeing and it's the same thing we're seeing with iran

00:29:16.380 right now we're firing ballistic missiles at u.s military bases we've seen this with israel last

00:29:20.620 time there was a potential ceasefire i think once every side realizes the time for sort of like big 0.55

00:29:26.620 military offensive operations is wrapping up i think they hurry up and they destroy as much stuff

00:29:31.240 as possible i i think bb i think what bb and i'm not justifying it it's very dark it's we've seen

00:29:37.320 it play out for decades yeah so i think what happens here is i think bb gets as far as he can

00:29:42.640 get before um definitely uh caving to the pressure to pull back but after he declares that his

00:29:49.240 objectives have been complete. And now they're moving into a new phase. We see this. Iran does

00:29:53.600 this too, by the way. When the United States strikes Iran, Iran sends a bunch of drones at

00:29:57.320 a U.S. military base and says, we were successful at attacking the enemy. So it's all propaganda

00:30:01.860 slightly. Change the goalpost. Right. It's how do we make our people believe we're fighting for

00:30:06.040 them, but at the same time. And that we're winning. Right. Nobody wins. And it's certainly not the

00:30:09.700 children. I do feel terribly about any casualty in war. I think what needs to happen here, and I

00:30:13.700 think this is actually more of a response to uh inconsistent u.s policy because we have elections

00:30:19.620 every four years and trump only has two and a half left and we saw the rubber banding effect

00:30:25.760 of policy when we had trump go to biden right and when you were a country like israel you can't

00:30:32.400 afford to play the long game now a lot of these countries iran has been playing the long game

00:30:36.540 certainly so when you can't afford to play the long game i think what you do is you move as far

00:30:41.100 forward as you can knowing you're going to be pulled back and i think that is really a result

00:30:45.620 of u.s policy being so sort of transitory depending on how our elections look we might

00:30:51.420 lose the house the house just voted today to strip trump of war powers we might lose the house in

00:30:56.700 november israel's looking at this saying well things are going to change for us soon what can

00:31:00.600 we get done now it's a terrible way to manage wars and foreign policy but honestly it's a

00:31:05.900 consequence of really

00:31:07.760 knee-jerk foreign policy.

00:31:09.780 I agree generally with that,

00:31:11.720 but I really don't like the self-defense

00:31:14.140 argument because

00:31:15.800 yes, every country has a right

00:31:17.900 to self-defense, but

00:31:19.260 if you're walking along the street and I 0.98

00:31:21.860 stab you in the back and you turn around to 1.00

00:31:23.880 hit me and I say, oh, well, I'm just defending 1.00

00:31:25.920 myself now. In California, that would

00:31:27.840 fly. That's

00:31:29.480 not really self-defense.

00:31:32.580 No other

00:31:33.660 country in that region

00:31:35.520 has the same kind of problems that Israel has.

00:31:38.200 Like, every other country around there wants to destroy it.

00:31:40.880 No one's talking about wanting to destroy Syria.

00:31:42.660 The UAE does not want to destroy Israel.

00:31:44.460 Well, but do you understand my point?

00:31:46.520 Like, they have a kind of antagonism towards them

00:31:49.000 that nobody else in that region has.

00:31:50.480 Well, I believe the Abrahamic courts present a great platform

00:31:54.000 and opportunity to end that. 1.00

00:31:55.280 I really do.

00:31:56.020 I hope they do.

00:31:56.680 I think it's crazy to include them in these regions. 1.00

00:31:58.400 Well, this is not a defense of Israel. 0.99

00:32:00.420 This is an example of why I think there's more to this

00:32:03.980 than the Self-Defense Act,

00:32:05.040 because nobody's talking about, you know...

00:32:07.480 Do you think it's about the Greater Israel Project?

00:32:08.960 I do.

00:32:09.540 Okay.

00:32:10.000 I do. No, I agree with that.

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00:33:00.300 So, David, I wanted to get to another big story this week.

00:33:03.780 Turns out the culture wars may be coming our way

00:33:07.360 Gallup poll finds American support for LGBTQ plus issues

00:33:12.000 Sliding backward amid cultural shift

00:33:15.160 This from Fox News

00:33:16.920 So there are a lot of these

00:33:20.080 You just talked about the rubber band snap back and forth

00:33:23.580 On a lot of things

00:33:24.540 And so we try to track where there's a linear moment

00:33:27.820 Of broadly accepted cultural change

00:33:31.800 Is it safe to say we've crossed the Rubicon on some of this weirdness?

00:33:35.500 Or if we end up with a President Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom, are we are we destined to have like some guy in a wig with an Adam's apple and a skirt teaching our third graders?

00:33:49.240 Yeah, I'll answer your question with real life examples.

00:33:52.700 Look at the guy who's going to replace Nancy Pelosi's seat in California.

00:33:57.200 Or look at, even better, Tallarico, who loves trans kids more than anything else in his life. 0.99

00:34:03.020 They're getting weirder. 1.00

00:34:04.100 We haven't crossed the Rubicon.

00:34:05.400 But it really has to do with—you saw this also, by the way, Mayor Wu.

00:34:10.080 She wanted to have a trans period awareness day in Boston and have 19 drag queen story hours planned in Boston libraries.

00:34:18.500 So, no, we haven't—

00:34:19.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:34:19.340 Hold on.

00:34:19.620 Yeah.

00:34:20.520 So I had a hard time understanding this at first because I thought a trans period—

00:34:25.080 Yeah.

00:34:25.320 Like a period of time 1.00

00:34:28.860 No, no, like trans people having periods 1.00

00:34:30.420 Like trans menstruation 0.58

00:34:31.860 They were having an awareness event

00:34:33.760 I have no idea

00:34:35.780 I don't know the science of that 1.00

00:34:37.920 Is the issue like a biological woman 1.00

00:34:40.260 Is pretending to be a man 0.98

00:34:42.140 And then menstruates 0.93

00:34:43.600 And then has mental health issues over that 0.94

00:34:45.300 I think I've seen that men who take

00:34:47.660 Certain hormone replacement drugs 0.99

00:34:49.940 To simulate like menstruation

00:34:52.520 No way

00:34:53.460 But anybody who says that

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00:35:02.960 Promo code MAT10.

00:35:03.960 But I think this is really more of a complex, intelligent type operation for the left.

00:35:09.460 The left is way smarter than we give them credit for.

00:35:11.220 Not the people who hold the signs for the left, but the people who control those people are way smarter than we give them credit for.

00:35:16.360 And I had Shamika Michelle on my show today.

00:35:18.540 We talked about just this.

00:35:20.480 The reason why they go to our kids. 0.86

00:35:22.080 The reason why they're trying to drag, and by the way, schools in blue states are organizing kids to participate in pride protests in states across this country. 0.94

00:35:30.080 And the reason why they're going your kids with the trans stuff, with the no king stuff, the idea is separating kids from their parents. 0.84

00:35:36.100 The idea is when you involve the children, you can't help but to involve yourself in things that we really don't care about anymore. 0.94

00:35:41.640 It's 2026.

00:35:42.600 I don't care who people sleep with.

00:35:44.080 It doesn't matter to me.

00:35:45.080 But just the headline that you just read that Americans are now pulling back, it's because the left has successfully divided us on an issue that wasn't an issue for us.

00:35:56.120 They do this on racial issues as well.

00:35:58.240 So what this whole pride thing is, what this whole trance thing is, the drag queens dancing in front of your kids, it's to get us irritated about something that we're not even thinking about anymore. 0.69

00:36:06.900 It's the same thing what Barack Obama did when it comes to racial issues. 0.54

00:36:09.760 This country has been moving forward away from the Jim Crow days.

00:36:13.100 What does Barack Obama do?

00:36:14.100 He sends us more into racial division than we've been in decades.

00:36:17.440 So this is what this whole pride thing is.

00:36:19.460 It's part of a much bigger operation to keep us divided.

00:36:22.260 I don't think it's working, though, and I think we're getting sick of it.

00:36:24.740 And if you look how red California is becoming, other than in those blue dots, I think people are rejecting it as a whole.

00:36:30.440 Here's how I track it, Pearson.

00:36:32.160 It's who's running on cultural issues.

00:36:34.300 When I first was interested and involved in politics in the, like, 90s, it was the moral majority, right?

00:36:41.020 And the Republicans, those kind of the remnants of the Reagan coalition, were really saying it's these cultural issues that will get the pro-life Democrats to switch over and become Republicans.

00:36:52.280 And Democrats kind of try to stay away from social issues.

00:36:54.860 Well, then Obama came in and said, no, no, no, we're going to lead on this stuff.

00:36:57.960 We're going to, at our Democratic convention, we're going to talk about gay rights. 0.89

00:37:01.880 We're going to criticize Republicans for being mean to the gay uncle.

00:37:06.040 We're going to champion marriage equality. 0.96

00:37:08.740 we're going to talk about abortion in our ads, right?

00:37:12.420 And that, Democrats won elections

00:37:14.780 even in some swing districts on cultural issues

00:37:17.900 and then under the Biden years

00:37:21.180 it got so strange

00:37:23.100 and it had to be like 34 genders

00:37:26.560 and now we had to not only be for the trans thing

00:37:29.120 but we had to be for it for kids 1.00

00:37:30.940 and even like the white women in the suburbs 0.86

00:37:33.160 who had voted for Obama 0.99

00:37:34.760 and were super excited about like standing

00:37:36.920 for marriage equality

00:37:38.300 we're like wait a second you want to tell my you know my like fifth grade son that it's okay if he's

00:37:43.800 a girl and republicans started winning on these issues and so i'm i really don't know the answer

00:37:48.940 to this question in 2024 and i think this this piece tries to help unpack it is it the republicans

00:37:55.820 running on cultural issues or is the dem is it the democrats principally it can't really be both

00:38:01.040 because they'll they both see the same polling i think it's going to be the republicans but i'd

00:38:06.840 love your take is it republicans or democrats running on cultural issues who leads on on on

00:38:12.480 cultural issues and social issues and says you need to vote for my party and against the other

00:38:16.980 party because of cultural and social issues i mean what i'm seeing is both candidates on both sides

00:38:21.840 are talking about these things heavily the the left is using the gay rights as you know hey look 0.74

00:38:27.860 the republicans are gonna murder you if you don't vote for us and the republicans are are very rightly 0.61

00:38:34.140 pointing out, look, they're going to do these things to your children behind the scenes at

00:38:38.940 school and it's legally illegal for them to talk about it or tell you about it. I mean, I think

00:38:45.780 it's great that people are backsliding on these issues. I think it's phenomenal. We need to have

00:38:51.260 a rejection, I think, of this insane embracing of homosexuality we've had in this country the last 1.00

00:38:59.200 few decades. It's destructive 1.00

00:39:01.440 of the nuclear family, of the traditional 0.97

00:39:03.240 family. So you think we should 0.94

00:39:05.440 reverse a Bogerfell?

00:39:07.620 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

00:39:09.220 Clarence Thomas does too. He has

00:39:11.540 Pearson, that

00:39:12.620 I think we've sort of moved on

00:39:15.280 as a country on the

00:39:17.140 gay marriage thing.

00:39:19.000 For a few reasons. I think, you know, one 1.00

00:39:21.260 those of us who are straight and married figure 0.69

00:39:23.260 that gay people

00:39:25.220 should have to go through it too. They shouldn't be able to punch out. 1.00

00:39:27.760 And then another theory is like 0.98

00:39:29.120 it's not really gay marriage that freaks you out. It's, it's gay sex. And if there's more 1.00

00:39:33.100 gay marriage, there'll probably be less gay sex. Well, no, this is, this is a, a moral relativism 0.99

00:39:42.340 issue. I think that's the position that you're taking. And as a Christian, I, I highly disagree

00:39:48.540 with that. I think it's, it's wrong. It's morally wrong. Um, it, it should not be embraced as a

00:39:55.260 tradition in our in our country it was imposed on us from the top down the supreme court made

00:39:59.760 the decision the voters didn't want it but voters broadly approve it voters today you know it's it's

00:40:05.720 a non-issue for a lot of people but i don't think there's like a huge people voting on gay marriage

00:40:10.700 i think the trans stuff might be what do you think david do you think the republicans try to run on

00:40:16.200 the social issues more democrats do in 20 in 2028 it i think the republicans would like to run on

00:40:22.220 social issues if they could figure out how to we have the best policies with respect to abortion

00:40:26.740 we ran on social issues in 2024 right we just don't do it well democrats do it so well they're

00:40:31.340 so good well they terrify people well and also finding the personal element like they've convinced

00:40:35.740 women that abortion is health care and they talk about it in a way that's so disarming for people

00:40:40.320 that are opposed to abortion we're talking about women's health care you're like no you're talking

00:40:44.040 about murdering babies exactly they're so good at sort of flipping the narrative killed on the

00:40:48.140 abortion issue in places like that's why we're getting killed on the abortion issue because we're

00:40:51.260 so bad at talking about it if we can coherently explain you don't think it's because people want

00:40:55.140 rights to abortion no because i because most of the people i talk to about abortion once you give

00:40:59.500 like the republican philosophy well first it follows dobbs and that's every state gets to

00:41:03.760 choose their abortion policy um and and seems reasonable to me well it is but then you have

00:41:08.560 fake news out there suggesting that trump is going to sign an executive order of banning abortion

00:41:12.220 never going to be true by the way yeah but like i think if pearson were president yeah he would

00:41:16.040 use the power of the presidency

00:41:17.920 to go and, like, crush the state of

00:41:20.120 Massachusetts if they allowed

00:41:21.800 one abortion, because he views it as ungodly.

00:41:24.260 Well, you have to allow states to decide.

00:41:25.680 It's not that it's ungodly. I mean, it's

00:41:27.660 demonstrably murder. Well, it's terrible.

00:41:29.880 It's demonstrably murder.

00:41:31.500 I think you and I are 0.57

00:41:32.940 more aligned with the Dobbs decision

00:41:35.520 rather than, like, a fascist

00:41:37.780 exercise of power to end all abortion.

00:41:39.360 I think states' rights should always trump 0.55

00:41:41.620 federal rights. But even if we don't like the

00:41:43.560 outcome of some of this. Correct, because the problem

00:41:45.620 is that logic applies universally.

00:41:49.200 So once you allow the state to decide,

00:41:51.480 or the federal government to decide

00:41:52.880 what's best for your state

00:41:53.920 based on what your personal beliefs are,

00:41:56.620 that can go both ways.

00:41:57.500 If you scale this up, though,

00:41:59.760 if the state made it legal,

00:42:01.680 it was up to states to decide

00:42:02.960 if you could murder somebody.

00:42:04.120 It didn't have to be a baby.

00:42:04.840 It is up to states to decide

00:42:06.940 whether or not to murder somebody.

00:42:07.860 Those are state laws.

00:42:09.140 And so, like, should we make that a thing?

00:42:11.440 You can murder somebody

00:42:12.380 and just let states decide

00:42:13.220 you can murder somebody?

00:42:14.040 If any state revokes their state law banning murder, then I guess murder would be legal there.

00:42:20.220 It is a state law.

00:42:21.760 It is the example of that.

00:42:23.840 And what are laws?

00:42:24.780 Laws are a set of morals that a community decides that their law enforcement is going to impose.

00:42:30.080 And that's what I'm talking about.

00:42:31.180 We've had the degradation of the morals fabric of our society.

00:42:33.440 But look at Portland, right?

00:42:34.840 Look at Washington State.

00:42:36.380 God, yeah.

00:42:36.940 But so, okay, those states, morally, they have a different set of rules than we do.

00:42:40.040 In Florida, we don't let people steal.

00:42:42.160 In California, they encourage it.

00:42:43.560 So it just depends on what the state decides.

00:42:45.920 And guess what people do?

00:42:46.800 They vote with their feet.

00:42:47.960 Look how many people are leaving California.

00:42:49.300 That is the problem.

00:42:50.000 We should not be letting the state determine our morals.

00:42:52.020 Our morals come from God.

00:42:53.300 They're God-given.

00:42:54.360 But that's why the Constitution allows states to decide.

00:42:57.000 Because federal governments will take your rights when they believe that – remember, we might believe in God.

00:43:02.500 And we might set our rules based on what God – the rights that God gives us.

00:43:05.880 But the left, socialism and kindness is their religion.

00:43:09.580 And if they're in power, imagine what they would do.

00:43:11.480 earth is supposed to interpret god because i just heard james talrico the leading democrat

00:43:15.600 in texas say that god is non-binary well yeah so if he's in charge and has power his version of

00:43:21.220 what god thinks is going to be pretty dramatically different than yours isn't it yeah well i mean

00:43:25.360 he's he's patently evil for that for that kind of observation i mean it the bible is very clear

00:43:31.480 you stray from that and you've strayed from the word of god that's but i'm a christophascist okay

00:43:36.880 No one would accuse you of being a federalist or someone who believes in diffused power.

00:43:44.440 In our many discussions, you seem to believe the centralized power in the hands of a righteous person is the path.

00:43:51.380 Well, at this point, the country's gone so far off track.

00:43:54.220 Voting's not working.

00:43:55.300 I don't know what you do.

00:43:56.080 You know what's gone off track?

00:43:57.200 Inflation.

00:43:57.860 It's at 3.8%, which is wild.

00:44:01.200 The national debt, nearly $39 trillion.

00:44:03.220 Gas up 50% since February.

00:44:05.760 Washington's answer always is to spend more money, print more, watch your savings burn.

00:44:10.020 I was in Congress, had a front row seat.

00:44:11.800 I know how it works.

00:44:13.480 And they will never stop, which means the dollar could be on a losing streak for a while.

00:44:18.200 The question is whether you get your money out before it's too late.

00:44:20.600 A lot of the smart money is moving to gold, silver, real assets.

00:44:24.960 Goldman Sachs has gold at $5,400 by the end of the year.

00:44:27.500 J.P. Morgan says $6,300.

00:44:29.860 Silver exploded 147% over last year.

00:44:33.120 Bank of America sees it hitting $135 an ounce before December.

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00:45:00.040 If you got $20,000 in silver, Pearson, would you bury it in your backyard?

00:45:04.900 I'm not telling you where I'd bury it.

00:45:06.560 You know who loves gold?

00:45:08.220 The Vatican.

00:45:08.880 The Vatican is covered in gold.

00:45:10.080 They have a ton of gold.

00:45:11.020 We've got a Vatican story, as it turns out.

00:45:13.760 Vatican weighs a CCP deal as Beijing disappears bishops, appoints state-backed clergy.

00:45:20.840 This from the Daily Caller.

00:45:22.800 What interests us about this story?

00:45:24.320 Oh, so much interests me about this.

00:45:26.220 You have two sort of totalitarian forces combating one another, right?

00:45:33.640 He who controls the religion, controls the message, and controls the people.

00:45:37.520 This is a big battle in China, right? 0.61

00:45:38.960 You can't have the Catholic Church having more power than the state.

00:45:41.940 That's why they banned it.

00:45:43.140 Right.

00:45:43.620 But what's interesting is you also have the Pope running around trying to dictate what we do in the United States from a political perspective.

00:45:49.700 So who gets to make those calls, which really goes down to the conversation we had a few minutes ago.

00:45:54.620 is who gets to tell us what God wants.

00:45:57.220 Well, according to Catholics, it's the Pope,

00:45:58.740 but I don't agree with what the Pope wants us to do.

00:46:01.240 So that's why I'd like Florida or California.

00:46:03.560 China, the Pope, and Pearson Sharp all are here 0.97

00:46:07.340 to decipher the word of God.

00:46:10.140 How do you see it, Pearson?

00:46:10.960 When I lived in China, the Christians were heavily persecuted.

00:46:15.760 I actually did see one church there,

00:46:18.120 but I couldn't talk to anybody inside,

00:46:20.420 and I assume it was basically state-run.

00:46:22.440 they christians have to go underground there i mean we know that that christianity that faith

00:46:27.920 in god is anathema to communism it's it if you have faith in god you don't have faith in the

00:46:33.220 state you know um so what i find interesting about this possibly the most interesting thing

00:46:40.160 is that we have a pope who is more than happy to go on the world stage and bash trump and bash the

00:46:49.600 United States and talk about the evils that we're committing around the world and is just 0.75

00:46:55.520 silent on everything happening in China. The organ harvesting, the mass oppression, the murders of 0.96

00:47:02.040 50 million plus people the last few decades. I mean, this is one of the most evil regimes in

00:47:08.700 the history of the world. And the Pope is silent on it. Not only is he silent, but he goes back

00:47:13.760 on the whole concept of the succession

00:47:19.060 and the choosing of representatives of the church.

00:47:23.420 It's supposed to be God-chosen, you know?

00:47:25.400 And now we have a state who's determining

00:47:27.160 who these representatives are.

00:47:29.140 And he doesn't have a problem with that.

00:47:31.520 It's just incredible.

00:47:32.540 What should, should he raise a papal army, David Pollack?

00:47:36.140 We've done that before.

00:47:37.620 We've done that before.

00:47:38.760 Pearson is ready to fight.

00:47:39.900 I mean, I'm pretty sure we had an entire Crusades on that premise.

00:47:44.600 Several of them.

00:47:45.880 We have dedicated several episodes to Pearson's desire to reignite the Crusades.

00:47:50.200 But that notwithstanding, how do we deal with this?

00:47:53.260 Let's take the world back.

00:47:54.360 You know how we deal with this?

00:47:55.560 Exactly what we're doing, and that's allowing America to lead on the world stage.

00:48:00.120 Because in the absence of America power, this is really what it boils down to, is who gets to be the boss?

00:48:07.040 Who gets to be the alpha?

00:48:08.240 Who gets to call the shots?

00:48:09.260 And it really is a difficult way to ascend to that position, right?

00:48:14.580 Historically, it's through war or through just general power.

00:48:18.400 I mean, now we have this country, the United States, which I believe is the best country God's ever put on this planet. 0.86

00:48:23.520 And I believe that the United States is in a unique position to ensure that countries like China can't persecute Christians and harvest their organs. 0.73

00:48:32.380 But the thing is, there's always going to be a power struggle, because as long as the United States is a strong nation, a powerful nation, countries like China, countries like Russia, the Vatican, as long as they don't have the power the United States does, the United States is a threat to them. 0.74

00:48:45.900 And so there's always going to be this tug of war.

00:48:48.120 I think this is more a story about the power of the church.

00:48:50.780 When you lose that power, you never get it back.

00:48:54.380 It's much harder without the United States.

00:48:56.060 the story of the church. I mean, in a good amount of human history, a leader wasn't even considered

00:49:01.900 legitimate until they had a people blessing. It was a question as to whether or not they could

00:49:08.300 even have legitimate rule of a country, if they could have peace and tranquility, until the Vatican

00:49:12.640 spoke. And now this story from the Daily Caller positions the Vatican as China's supplicant.

00:49:19.340 Interestingly, this exact same situation is happening with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan Buddhism,

00:49:24.640 because Dalai Lama is not long for this world.

00:49:27.980 Obviously, you know, he's late 80s at this point.

00:49:30.600 God bless him.

00:49:31.380 Wonderful man.

00:49:33.560 But traditionally, the Dalai Lama chose the successor.

00:49:39.160 You know, that was up to them. 1.00

00:49:40.260 The Tibetan Buddhists would go through 0.86

00:49:41.860 and they had a whole process to choose 0.77

00:49:43.300 who the next Dalai Lama is because it's reincarnation.

00:49:46.860 And China has said, nope, we're choosing.

00:49:49.660 We're choosing all of them.

00:49:51.000 We're choosing all the head Buddhist monks everywhere.

00:49:53.880 and you have no choice in it. 0.99

00:49:55.960 The Dalai Lama is evil 1.00

00:49:57.080 and we have to get rid of him 1.00

00:49:58.320 and that's why he's not allowed

00:49:59.140 back in the country 0.83

00:49:59.840 and da-da-da-da-da. 0.99

00:50:01.380 Are they going to put

00:50:01.840 a Made in China stamp on him?

00:50:02.840 If you were the American president,

00:50:04.240 would you want the power 0.98

00:50:05.240 to choose who was in what mosque

00:50:06.820 or veto power over it?

00:50:10.160 More so who was not in what mosque

00:50:12.400 because there wouldn't be any mosques.

00:50:14.280 Oh boy. 0.99

00:50:14.820 And we'll leave it there

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The Anchormen Show EP 133 - Man vs. Machine： Golden State Gut Check

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