The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - The Anchormen Show EP 137 - Iran, Pride Month, and Vigilante Justice

00:00:00.000 now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson sharp

00:00:11.200 welcome back to the anchorman show i'm matt gates i host the matt gates show here on one

00:00:19.340 american news every weeknight nine o'clock eastern at six pacific i am joined as always

00:00:24.120 by my co-host pearson sharp host of the sharp report our terrific investigative reporter he

00:00:29.520 goes to war zones fires riots wherever nuclear power plants wherever the news calls him and

00:00:38.920 david pollock is those of david pollock prime time seven o'clock eastern four o'clock pacific

00:00:43.820 david is the the leadoff man for our prime time lineup right now david thanks so much for joining

00:00:48.880 us i i know we got to get to this iran deal and what everyone is saying about it and the spasms

00:00:55.980 and wig outs that we've observed,

00:00:59.220 but I want to start with something

00:01:00.580 on a little lighter note.

00:01:02.780 America's national pastime, baseball.

00:01:06.060 And baseball is doing Pride Month.

00:01:08.780 Everywhere but in the Texas Rangers.

00:01:11.800 They are not doing Pride Day.

00:01:13.640 But part of Pride Day for Major League Baseball

00:01:16.480 means you wear the hat with the rainbow on it.

00:01:19.600 And three of these pitchers

00:01:21.080 for the San Francisco Giants,

00:01:22.460 they go and write the chapter and verse

00:01:25.800 of Genesis that identifies the rainbow as part of God's covenant with Noah to not flood the earth

00:01:33.200 again. They get a verbal warning from Major League Baseball about violating the uniform policy,

00:01:40.440 and that uniform carried the rainbow. So what is this fight about to you, Pearson?

00:01:45.840 This is the fight against Christianity. I mean, everywhere you go in America, there's a war

00:01:51.240 against Christianity. And this is just another example. During, you know, they cite the fact

00:01:56.320 that it's over uniform violations or whatever, but during BLM, there was people writing that 0.94

00:02:01.220 crap all over their uniforms and there was no issues. They were, they were putting it on their 0.96

00:02:05.060 cleats. They were inscribing it on the pitching mound. Everywhere you looked, there was BLM,

00:02:09.300 black gay race communism, everywhere you looked. But when you put Jesus Christ on there, 0.98

00:02:14.720 suddenly it's a problem. I'm interested to know if someone, you have to find a Muslim 1.00

00:02:21.180 player or someone who was willing to talk about it. But if you put an inscription from the Quran

00:02:25.060 on your hat, if any would have a problem? Because the Quran 26, 165 through 166,

00:02:34.300 why do you men lust after fellow men, leaving the wives that your Lord has created for you?

00:02:38.880 The Quran calls them a transgressing people. So maybe we ought to get someone out there to put

00:02:43.520 the Quran on their hat and see how the MLB handles that one. Do you buy the pretext, David, 0.50

00:02:48.620 that it is a content-neutral regulation,

00:02:51.660 or are you here with Pearson

00:02:53.660 that this is a battle over Christianity

00:02:56.060 and culture itself?

00:02:59.340 Wow.

00:03:00.040 So the Bible verse discusses the promise after Noah

00:03:04.740 that God would not flood the earth again.

00:03:06.740 So I think these pictures were just making it clear

00:03:09.120 that the original origin of the rainbow

00:03:11.240 was a promise from God.

00:03:12.560 Now, I don't see how that...

00:03:15.600 Before it was hijacked. 1.00

00:03:16.420 Well, my daughters love rainbows.

00:03:19.220 When did that happen, by the way? 1.00

00:03:21.100 When did the gay community hijack the rainbow? 1.00

00:03:25.680 I don't know. 0.98

00:03:26.400 They hijacked the word gay, too.

00:03:27.960 Well, I mean, perfectly great word, and they ruined it. 0.81

00:03:31.760 To me, this is a fight about the, this is a battle over the rainbow. 0.98

00:03:35.920 And the LGBTQAI plus community hijacked the rainbow. 0.97

00:03:40.740 I don't know if that was some sort of Wizard of Oz, Dorothy thing, or ancillary. 1.00

00:03:45.640 Actually, I think I remember reading it.

00:03:47.060 I can't remember the detail.

00:03:47.880 I think there was a guy in like the 80s who decided it was going to be that.

00:03:50.860 And it's fairly recent.

00:03:52.620 But what I love is that these Major League Baseball players are saying, we're winning the rainbow back.

00:03:58.660 Right.

00:03:59.020 We are winning it back to its true biblical purpose.

00:04:01.700 It's God's covenant.

00:04:02.900 It's God's symbol. 0.99

00:04:03.520 Well, and my theory is if MAGA can win the YMCA song back from the gay people, then the Christians can definitely win back the rainbow for its true biblical purpose. 1.00

00:04:15.900 Yeah, this is a culture war. 0.99

00:04:17.340 This is absolutely part of the culture war.

00:04:18.840 I think it is a culture war,

00:04:20.920 but the culture war is serving its exact purpose.

00:04:23.340 And I think the reason why, 0.93

00:04:24.700 I do believe there's an anti-Christian element to it

00:04:26.800 because Marxism teaches that you have to be,

00:04:29.620 your Marxism is your religion.

00:04:30.740 Subordinate to the state.

00:04:31.540 Correct, not your church. 0.98

00:04:32.900 And so there's all,

00:04:33.440 we talked about this on a previous show.

00:04:35.020 We talked about the Pope going over to China

00:04:36.980 to figure out how to make a deal.

00:04:38.560 So, you know, but at the end of the day,

00:04:41.100 I think anything that challenges

00:04:43.760 is this great Marxist

00:04:45.800 plan will always

00:04:47.720 be met with opposition, whether it's

00:04:49.320 students in schools with school choice,

00:04:51.660 whether it's a Bible verse on the back of a

00:04:53.720 baseball hat. Yeah, but it is interesting. They don't seem to go after

00:04:55.480 Islam. Well, because Islam is a partner. 0.99

00:04:58.360 Well, in Marxism, remember 0.99

00:04:59.480 in Iran. In a sense. Well, Iran 0.73

00:05:01.320 partnered with the communists when Iran wanted to 0.84

00:05:03.540 have a revolution, and as soon as they won the revolution, they 0.79

00:05:05.500 killed all the communists. Islam 0.99

00:05:07.420 is finding a partnership 0.79

00:05:09.020 in Marxism here in the United States in a similar

00:05:11.420 fashion, and that is this sort

00:05:13.560 of unholy alliance and the communists believe that sharia i would view it more as a secular

00:05:18.440 versus a non-secular divide and and so much of the pressure in corporate america in these leagues

00:05:26.760 is to go for the secular marketplace right because if you go to a faith-based marketplace

00:05:34.300 you're subject to all kind of criticism so to me it isn't like you know christian versus muslim

00:05:39.700 versus jewish or anything else it's about faith versus not faith and the commercial push is away

00:05:45.640 from communities of faith and these three players stood up and said no i'm actually going to display

00:05:50.100 my faith and i'm not going to surrender the symbol of the rainbow for something that violates my

00:05:56.320 faith when in fact that symbol has true root in in the beginning of our story in the book of genesis

00:06:02.660 why is the mlb allowed to impose that on on players of faith why do they have to mandate

00:06:08.300 and the players have to accept it.

00:06:09.300 Well, they were allowed, according to the rules, Pearson,

00:06:10.880 one pitcher, interestingly enough,

00:06:12.360 is allowed to have just nothing at all.

00:06:17.020 But that's why I truly contend this was a battle for the rainbow

00:06:20.300 because these players could have had their very, very secular protest

00:06:26.220 of a very secular LGBTQ embrace.

00:06:31.140 But instead of that, they said, no, actually,

00:06:34.080 this symbol doesn't stand for all that other stuff.

00:06:36.980 It is literally the covenant of God expressed through this symbol, and people need to know that.

00:06:43.440 So what if you worked for an organization that was loudly and proudly proclaiming these values that you were 100% against and blasting it everywhere, putting it on TV, putting out slogans, supporting gay pride parades, all this stuff that you did not agree with, and they gave out uniforms, but said, well, you don't have to wear the uniforms.

00:07:03.820 you're still working for an evil organization like you're still working in this environment

00:07:09.300 that you totally disagree with so this is one form even if you don't have to wear that that hat

00:07:15.320 you're still working for an organization you disagree with and that's one way to protest that

00:07:19.200 and i think that's totally legitimate do you remember the seinfeld episode where kramer was

00:07:22.840 running in the aid or walking in the aids march and they wanted him to wear the ribbon and he

00:07:27.080 didn't want to wear i don't want to wear the ribbon i don't want to wear the ribbon it's like

00:07:30.060 you have to wear the ribbon, but I don't want to wear it.

00:07:31.760 And they attack him.

00:07:34.120 Yeah.

00:07:34.560 I think that's the same thing with the flag.

00:07:36.580 He's like, I don't want to wear the flag.

00:07:38.060 You have to wear the flag.

00:07:38.800 You see that thing everywhere now.

00:07:40.040 I mean, you see that.

00:07:41.060 And the flag has changed.

00:07:42.980 They're more flags than the United Nations, Matt.

00:07:44.920 I don't even know how many flags they have at this point, right?

00:07:48.780 What is the worst we have to endure during Pride Month?

00:07:51.880 Is it this baseball stuff? 0.97

00:07:53.960 Is it that at the restaurants you go to, it's fully kind of an embrace of this alternate lifestyle?

00:08:02.540 Or is there some other feature of it that you find most uncompelling?

00:08:07.580 It's all pretty abhorrent, honestly, to me.

00:08:11.100 But when you look at, I think the most glaring example that is just in your face that is so repellent is these parades.

00:08:19.080 Yeah, the parades are bad. 1.00

00:08:19.960 The parades where men are having sex with men. 0.99

00:08:23.440 In the parades? I've not gone to those parades. I must be going to the different gay pride parades since you're going to Pierce and I. 0.99

00:08:28.700 I think he's taking a Mardi Gras.

00:08:29.800 Are you sure that's a parade you're going to? Did you wander into that strange boobie place again? 1.00

00:08:34.220 I would never go. 1.00

00:08:34.680 I told you not to go to that place.

00:08:36.740 This is, you know, I would never go to one of these things. These are reports that I've read about.

00:08:41.040 And there was like one, I think this was last year, there was a big foam party.

00:08:44.520 It was part of the parade and that was happening there. 0.99

00:08:47.120 naked men, you know, swinging their genitals 1.00

00:08:49.680 around, using sex toys, showing 1.00

00:08:51.700 them how to use on each other, and children

00:08:53.680 are in the front row. That is the problem. Like, those

00:08:55.640 parents need to have their children taken away from

00:08:57.660 them. Like, that is evil. Like, you're

00:08:59.580 just promoting this evil ideology that's

00:09:01.520 satanic. When are these parades so that I can

00:09:03.460 avoid them at all costs? Every weekend.

00:09:05.360 Every weekend? It's like the no-kids thing?

00:09:08.000 Yeah, they have them all throughout June.

00:09:09.380 I covered this on my show yesterday in Ottawa.

00:09:11.920 It's not just America. In Ottawa...

00:09:13.560 Well, yeah, Canada's gay. 0.99

00:09:14.580 as a country 0.98

00:09:17.140 so in Ottawa

00:09:20.720 there was

00:09:22.300 like drag queens 1.00

00:09:24.140 what is it BDSM or something 1.00

00:09:26.740 displays leather and

00:09:28.780 you know and like all this stuff

00:09:30.300 and like there was drag queens and children

00:09:32.740 were being given money to run up and give to these drag queens

00:09:35.320 this was just in Ottawa

00:09:36.460 but more than that there's actually like

00:09:38.740 even San Diego schools by the way

00:09:40.200 you can go to the website and you can

00:09:43.360 There's a county-sponsored pride parade that you can go and march on behalf of your school in these pride parades.

00:09:49.780 Wait, they take sponsorships?

00:09:51.200 No, but like they're saying—

00:09:52.080 I'm totally going to sponsor one on behalf of Pearson Sharp.

00:09:54.580 I'm sure you could sponsor it.

00:09:56.180 But what I'm saying is these are sanctioned, I should say. 0.91

00:09:58.680 These are school-sanctioned participation in the pride parade.

00:10:01.660 The honorary Grand Marshal, Pearson Sharp.

00:10:05.140 We all know I'm going to do that to Dan.

00:10:07.040 speaking of forever wars

00:10:10.080 the Iran deal

00:10:11.280 speaking of forever wars

00:10:14.060 that's the best segue of the night 0.98

00:10:15.780 I want to get into the Iran deal

00:10:18.500 because we're learning more

00:10:20.260 about the details

00:10:21.860 and it is

00:10:23.620 really I think

00:10:25.160 a better deal than the JCPOA

00:10:28.500 in terms of the oversight

00:10:30.100 but a lot of people are having different reactions

00:10:32.720 and I'd love to get yours Pearson

00:10:34.340 it's yeah where do you even start with something like this

00:10:40.760 you know i mean you both know where i stand on this we should not have been in this war to begin

00:10:45.940 with it was a bad deal from the start ending it early or ending it now you know is the best thing

00:10:52.340 we possibly could have done but the terms from what i'm looking at you know iran is better off

00:10:58.000 now than they were before uh before they had heavy sanctions massive sanctions now they're

00:11:04.800 not going to have any sanctions uh they had heavily with good behavior though with good

00:11:08.540 behavior you know everyone who's just like all the sanctions are gone yeah but who's going to

00:11:12.240 determine the trump administration at first yeah okay we'll see because trump's only in office for

00:11:16.400 the next two years but there's also the trillions that literally over a trillion well hang on hang

00:11:20.760 on there's there's the frozen assets they had beforehand now all those assets are unfrozen

00:11:26.840 Overtime with good behavior.

00:11:28.760 If they make good on their deal, yeah.

00:11:31.580 We'll see.

00:11:32.880 There was no reconstruction deal beforehand.

00:11:35.880 Now there's $300 billion in reconstruction.

00:11:39.140 U.S. naval pressure beforehand.

00:11:41.160 Now no U.S. naval pressure pulling back. 0.94

00:11:44.160 Iran influenced Hormuz, but now they have massive control over the shipping, 0.84

00:11:49.380 arguably more than they had before.

00:11:51.500 So basically, Iran fought.

00:11:53.600 They survived.

00:11:54.320 They blocked Hormuz.

00:11:56.020 they absorbed the damage and then they converted this crisis into sanctions relief and reconstruction leverage

00:12:02.960 while the worst concessions are unresolved at this point, including the uranium, you know,

00:12:09.860 and the deal with the rebels.

00:12:11.940 That's all been kicked down the road.

00:12:13.380 That's not resolved at this point. 0.84

00:12:14.780 Well, David, the way Pearson describes it, it sounds like Iran won.

00:12:17.520 Yeah, no. 1.00

00:12:18.400 It seems like it.

00:12:19.280 But that's certainly one interpretation of it.

00:12:22.360 But the other side of it is the president said today it cost Iran over a trillion dollars over the course of the war.

00:12:31.440 Their military is set back 15, 16 years.

00:12:34.440 There is a deal in place for the uranium, for IAEA inspectors to come in.

00:12:39.960 There is a plan to remove the uranium.

00:12:41.820 All of that is contingent upon, and all of these things you talked about are contingent upon them participating in giving up within enriched uranium.

00:12:49.680 But there's more.

00:12:50.640 But there's more.

00:12:51.100 Also, the Strait of Hormuz, there's going to be no tolls, no way for Iran to tax the transport.

00:12:57.980 That's all part of the deal. 0.69

00:12:59.360 And all of it is hinging on the fact that they get none of this unless they go along with what we said.

00:13:04.520 And so for all the people who didn't want this war, who were complaining about the gas prices, oil is down below $76 a barrel.

00:13:10.420 Gas prices are coming down.

00:13:11.980 The war is ending.

00:13:13.060 Americans aren't going to be on the hook forever.

00:13:14.160 So it's going back to where it was before we started this.

00:13:14.800 And now we're mad that we're ending the war.

00:13:16.660 It's going back to before we started this.

00:13:17.700 No, because Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon.

00:13:19.900 They can't get a nuclear weapon.

00:13:20.600 They didn't have one beforehand.

00:13:21.820 They were very close to getting one, according to a lot of people.

00:13:23.520 According to Netanyahu.

00:13:24.720 Whether you believe it or not.

00:13:25.800 But wait, wait.

00:13:26.260 Were they going to hit us with the nuclear weapon with the very same missiles that President Trump today said couldn't blow up the world?

00:13:32.720 Exactly.

00:13:33.200 Well, it doesn't matter who they were going to hit with those missiles. 0.82

00:13:35.100 Under this framework, Iran's government remains in place.

00:13:40.300 Like, this hardline government has now arguably gotten even more hardline.

00:13:43.640 But regime change wouldn't have benefited us either. 1.00

00:13:45.140 And led by a gay guy, which I think we should really play it up at the signing ceremony of the MOU. 1.00

00:13:49.800 It's Pride Month. 0.95

00:13:50.300 that we wanted to do.

00:13:51.640 Trump should present him with a pride hat.

00:13:53.180 The MOU in June on behalf of the new Supreme Leader.

00:13:56.520 Do you think they'll call it the Strait of Hormuz

00:13:58.440 or maybe they'll have to change that?

00:13:59.860 Oh, not during June.

00:14:02.820 Iran's ballistic missile program remains in place.

00:14:05.720 That hasn't been affected.

00:14:06.960 It keeps its uranium for now.

00:14:09.440 For now. We'll see.

00:14:10.960 And support for the regional armed groups

00:14:12.800 is apparently not even on the agenda for the next talks.

00:14:15.480 By the way, the reason none of that bothers me

00:14:18.520 is because I was never under the illusion

00:14:20.360 that any of that was going to change.

00:14:21.600 Well, agreed.

00:14:22.420 So none of that bothers me even a little bit.

00:14:24.460 I'm totally for this deal

00:14:25.780 because I didn't believe at the end of this war

00:14:28.380 Iran wasn't going to have any ballistic missiles. 0.56

00:14:31.040 I think only someone who doesn't understand

00:14:33.340 Iran's military and their force posture

00:14:35.600 would have believed that.

00:14:36.720 I didn't believe that at the end of this war

00:14:38.740 Iran was going to turn their back

00:14:40.440 on all of their allies all over the world.

00:14:42.420 No, of course not.

00:14:43.360 This was the cheapest way 0.51

00:14:46.440 to end this war as fast as possible.

00:14:50.000 And however anybody feels about how we got to this point,

00:14:53.160 one thing that I believe with great certainty

00:14:55.000 is that any other path forward other than this deal

00:14:58.040 would have cost America more in treasure and in blood. 0.72

00:15:01.600 The cheapest way to have ended this war

00:15:03.100 would be not to have started it for what we've gained. 0.95

00:15:05.260 This is just like someone coming up and kicking you in the nuts

00:15:07.280 and afterwards being like, well, now you're better off. 0.98

00:15:10.260 How?

00:15:10.900 It sounds like my career in Congress.

00:15:12.960 How are we better off?

00:15:14.340 We're not.

00:15:14.780 Well, I think that the administration would point to some things that we demonstrated during this war, right? 0.59

00:15:21.300 Iran demonstrated their denial capability over the Straits, but so did we.

00:15:25.080 And there was, I talked to sources in Iran, there was internal pressure on this regime to end this war

00:15:29.920 because things had gotten very expensive, a lot of key goods were unavailable, and people needed it to end.

00:15:36.660 So then we stopped just short of achieving our objectives.

00:15:39.100 But what's our objective?

00:15:39.800 Yeah, throwing Iran into some sort of civil war was never my objective. 0.92

00:15:44.780 If we were going to go in there and do this, getting rid of that regime should have been the objective. 0.52

00:15:49.200 That was never an objective, please.

00:15:51.100 It was never an achievable objective.

00:15:52.820 What are you, the next guest on Mark Levin's show?

00:15:55.480 No, but if we're going to bomb these people, if we're going to starve them,

00:15:58.860 if we're going to, you know, have resources and stuff like that,

00:16:01.040 and then just pull out, what have we accomplished?

00:16:03.680 Nothing.

00:16:04.040 So if you're going to go in there, do it for real.

00:16:07.800 Do it hardcore.

00:16:09.060 Get the people who are protesting in the streets and let them take back their country. 1.00

00:16:12.500 Get rid of the Islamic regime. 1.00

00:16:13.560 them to beat 600,000 IRGC 1.00

00:16:15.840 guys who are looking forward to their own

00:16:17.700 martyrdom. Well, and that's where the

00:16:19.680 United States would help out. But if we're doing

00:16:21.700 this, my argument is not to have done it at all.

00:16:23.420 To create more terrorists than you would not do it.

00:16:24.920 To have done it at all. When has regime change ever

00:16:27.560 worked out anyway? So when you start making a bad decision, you

00:16:29.560 have to continue to make the bad decision?

00:16:31.500 You sound like someone in a long and painful

00:16:33.680 marriage. No, you just wipe out

00:16:35.660 the problem completely. That's it.

00:16:37.960 You don't let it come back. That's against a

00:16:39.680 whole lot of things in the Geneva Convention. You don't injure

00:16:41.700 the animal and let it continue living. 0.82

00:16:43.900 You kill it so it doesn't come back and get you 1.00

00:16:45.660 later. What would that have realistically looked like 0.99

00:16:47.740 in Iran, Pearson?

00:16:50.100 What would that have looked like? 0.93

00:16:51.600 You think we should nuke Tehran? 1.00

00:16:53.840 Kill all those innocent people? 1.00

00:16:55.800 Not nuke them, but 1.00

00:16:57.380 we're the United States. We have resources to do these

00:16:59.620 kinds of things, to do these kinds of operations.

00:17:01.520 But I think this whole exercise

00:17:03.040 was a lesson

00:17:05.680 in the limitations

00:17:07.000 of some of our capabilities.

00:17:09.420 We need to have some humility

00:17:10.800 about playing away games in parts of the world

00:17:14.300 where we have vulnerabilities.

00:17:17.040 And Americans did die in this war.

00:17:18.960 And some of those outposts in Kuwait.

00:17:21.340 We had F-4s, Vietnam aeroplanes,

00:17:24.820 killing Americans, 0.99

00:17:25.820 flying below our sophisticated first world radar.

00:17:29.620 I think we learned a lot about drones

00:17:31.540 and the future of warfare and intrudable systems 0.99

00:17:34.120 and how even kind of second and third world countries

00:17:38.740 can deny transit over choke points i mean what what do you think is the big post-mortem on this

00:17:45.840 in terms of lessons learned i'm agreeing with almost everything you're saying here uh you know

00:17:49.740 i think we have learned a lot of lessons in this war i think look anytime we're involved in an armed

00:17:54.600 conflict where there's we're actually playing another team and not a scrimmage uh we were

00:17:58.760 going to learn uh what our weaknesses are and then improve obviously but um no i think you're

00:18:04.240 exactly right i never thought regime change was ever attainable i would have loved to see regime

00:18:08.180 change, because I don't think this regime has been friendly

00:18:10.240 to the United States, or a lot of people, but I've

00:18:12.160 also, I'm old enough to have seen regime changes

00:18:14.200 fail almost every single time we've been

00:18:16.100 involved in regime change, and who do we replace

00:18:18.280 them with? How are there any guarantees that who

00:18:20.080 we're replacing is any better? 0.98

00:18:22.120 Look, it's Syria. It's a perfect example. 1.00

00:18:24.080 Like, you go with the devil you know sometimes

00:18:26.080 versus the devil you don't, regardless of the promises

00:18:28.060 the devil you don't know make.

00:18:30.220 So, at the end of the day, I think this is

00:18:32.060 the best outcome for America. Now,

00:18:34.060 if you're pro-Israel, a lot of Israelis

00:18:36.200 and a lot of people pro-Israel are not happy.

00:18:37.980 They want more.

00:18:40.960 I think Ben Shapiro was like breathing in and out of a paper bag all day.

00:18:44.520 Mark Levin was pretty upset too.

00:18:45.920 He challenged the president in a rare form.

00:18:48.120 He doesn't usually go after the president, but he thought this was a good deal for Iran, better than for Israel.

00:18:52.580 Just by the way, David, these were the people that were trying to say that anyone that had any questions about the endgame or the cost-benefit analysis on this war, that we were not MAGA.

00:19:02.520 We needed to be excommunicated from the movement.

00:19:05.320 We needed to be banished to some, like, faraway land.

00:19:09.380 And here, like, I scratched my head this morning, and I scroll through.

00:19:14.200 I see Lindsey Graham is supporting this MOU.

00:19:17.360 And I'm thinking.

00:19:17.940 He didn't right away, though.

00:19:19.080 He was mad that we stopped.

00:19:20.180 But he's for it.

00:19:20.840 Yeah.

00:19:21.400 And so now, like, we have sat on this set, on your show, my show, talking about this MAGA civil war, right?

00:19:28.540 Did Israel create this inexorable divide that would never be fixed again, that those people kind of wanted my side out and my side thought that they didn't love America?

00:19:38.940 And now Matt Gaetz and Lindsey Graham are supporting the exact same foreign policy document.

00:19:45.620 Print it because that's the headline right there. 0.94

00:19:48.020 But that's how stupid this internal feud was in MAGA and that's how phony it really was because I don't think anybody really had any idea what they were unhappy about with MAGA because now look at this outcome. 0.91

00:19:57.700 So the people who are complaining about gas prices, what happens? 0.97

00:20:00.160 Gas is going down.

00:20:01.180 The people who didn't want us in a forever war in Iran, well, guess what?

00:20:03.420 We're not in a forever war in Iran.

00:20:04.720 People who thought we were Israel first versus America first, well, guess what?

00:20:07.640 Israel's pissed that we're ending the war.

00:20:09.520 So I'm just having a hard time.

00:20:10.920 And they're mad at Trump.

00:20:11.740 Right. 1.00

00:20:12.200 So I'm having a hard time taking where we're at now with this MOU.

00:20:16.160 It still has to be signed on Friday, and things can happen.

00:20:18.580 We've seen it before when J.D. Vance shows up, deals sometimes don't get signed.

00:20:22.040 And Trump today said, hey, if it doesn't go through, I'm blaming J.D.

00:20:25.580 He said it jokingly.

00:20:26.360 Israel could bomb lemonade.

00:20:27.340 But you never know. 0.78

00:20:28.400 Something could happen overnight.

00:20:29.740 So I'm never going to count any chickens before they hatch.

00:20:31.680 And even after the MOU is signed, there's still a period of time in which this thing can still go south.

00:20:36.580 And I do believe that there still will be some exchange of fire after this MOU is signed, and it doesn't mean it's not going to work. 0.65

00:20:42.440 Israel's still firing on Lebanon as we're having that discussion. 0.65

00:20:45.220 But to rest my point on this, it's pretty simple.

00:20:49.100 is sometimes you have to just let the process play out

00:20:53.220 and not be so quick to jump to a ridiculous conclusion

00:20:56.980 that I've seen so many of them. 0.75

00:20:59.360 And I just think-

00:21:00.300 You're saying don't be a panicking?

00:21:01.380 Don't be a panicking.

00:21:02.880 That's always the best.

00:21:04.140 That I'm going to put next to my rainbow flag

00:21:05.700 on my baseball hat. 1.00

00:21:06.480 I mean, I agree.

00:21:08.520 I'm glad we have a deal.

00:21:10.140 I'm glad it's over,

00:21:11.340 but it never should have begun in the first place.

00:21:14.420 Well, and what I wonder is how this experience shapes

00:21:18.340 how Republicans are going to be talking about foreign policy on the campaign trail.

00:21:23.000 I go back to the Bush days, right?

00:21:25.300 And Republicans only talked about foreign policy through this neoconservative lens.

00:21:31.420 We had to show strength and power and we had to bring liberty to the world

00:21:34.620 and overthrow all these Middle Eastern governments 1.00

00:21:37.180 and these democracies would emerge out of the sand.

00:21:40.920 And then Trump comes along and says,

00:21:43.680 we don't have to do the McCain thing.

00:21:45.240 We don't have to do the Bush thing.

00:21:47.280 I'm going to talk about foreign policy through the lens of peace and removal and really a refocusing back on America.

00:21:55.060 And then, you know, we've had this Iran war.

00:21:57.800 And I wonder now, is there a little bit of something for everyone?

00:22:01.300 You know, can the neocons go out there and say, we know how to punch a bully in the nose?

00:22:04.680 We punched Venezuela in the nose.

00:22:06.440 And it's not like a whole new country, but it's definitely a better version of Venezuela. 0.97

00:22:11.300 You know, we went and punched Iran in the nose, and we got better visibility into a diminished nuclear program out of it. 0.52

00:22:17.800 And it did come with costs, and I had real questions about those costs, and still do. 0.98

00:22:23.200 But, you know, that gives them something to say.

00:22:26.600 And meanwhile, people who like to focus on the true value and dividend we get from America First foreign policy can go say, look, we're not still entangled in these things.

00:22:37.560 But I don't think a lot of Americans are going to be worried about, I don't think they were

00:22:43.120 beforehand and I don't think they are, they don't feel relief now because of this war. Like

00:22:48.360 beforehand, I don't think a lot of Americans were concerned about Iran or the nuclear program.

00:22:52.540 And today I don't think- You're saying at the RNC you didn't see people holding free Iran

00:22:55.880 posters? Well, I think there was a CIA operation to promote that idea, 0.98

00:23:00.520 but I don't think the average American out there was worried about that. And today I don't think

00:23:05.380 they're like, man, I am so glad that, you know, Iran turned out the way it did. And that this 1.00

00:23:10.480 has been dealt with. Like, I was really worried about that. Now let me go home and save for some

00:23:14.280 more eggs. Like, I don't think that's an issue that we were worried about. And I think it's

00:23:18.300 going to be really important for Trump from now on out to just double, triple down on America and

00:23:25.500 our economy and driving that home before the midterms, because that's what's going to crush

00:23:29.740 us, not whether we, whatever we did in Iran. It's great that it's over. Yeah. You agree that 0.94

00:23:34.740 dealing with tankers being fired upon the straits being closed, potentially Americans being killed

00:23:42.160 that all of that playing out in the midterms would be considerably worse. Oh yeah, absolutely. No,

00:23:47.560 it needed to be dealt with and shut down. We have about how Ron's going to use their unfrozen

00:23:51.580 assets. And I wonder if it creates momentum for the area of the world where you've done a great

00:23:56.440 deal of impressive journalism and that's this war between russia and ukraine but first father's day

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00:25:01.340 You'll get this when your son gets older.

00:25:05.120 On Father's Day, all the audience understands this.

00:25:06.860 Anybody who's a father understands this.

00:25:08.260 Dad, what do you want to do for Father's Day?

00:25:10.020 I'm good.

00:25:10.640 All I want to do Father's Day is relax.

00:25:12.180 Well, we really want to go to the beach with you.

00:25:14.560 We want to go to Disney World with you.

00:25:16.300 We want to do all these fun things with you.

00:25:17.800 And anybody who's a dad who loves their family and does everything they can as a dad knows how much work it is to take your family to the beach.

00:25:23.940 You've got to load the cooler.

00:25:24.720 You've got to carry it around.

00:25:25.640 You've got to go to the park.

00:25:26.420 You've got to carry the kids on your shoulder.

00:25:27.800 No matter what, anything you do with your family, if you're a man, you've got to take care of your family.

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00:25:36.080 So thank you for that.

00:25:37.080 There you go.

00:25:38.780 Sounds like you're a multivitamin guy.

00:25:40.900 Pearson is like constantly – he eats like a rabbit.

00:25:44.380 He has a strange diet.

00:25:45.940 That's actually not true.

00:25:46.180 I saw you, like, running down the road today doing something.

00:25:49.540 You were like, exercise?

00:25:50.940 Yeah, I mean, you've got to exercise.

00:25:52.340 And when you sit in the office eight hours a day, you know, get out, get some sun, get some vitamin D.

00:25:57.400 Run off all the rage you get reading the headlines.

00:25:59.580 What's your Father's Day tradition with the fam?

00:26:02.120 We don't really have one.

00:26:03.700 We've gone camping a couple times, day camping.

00:26:06.500 I wouldn't mind going to Mount Palomar and just having a picnic with the kids.

00:26:10.540 You're ready to be that dad carrying the cooler, getting the blanket out.

00:26:14.760 that is the ideal father's day don't leave pearson sharp alone get him out there do something active

00:26:20.720 well don't go back uh on father's day to uh the front lines of the war in the dombas uh you've

00:26:28.080 already done that and i know your family was eager to get you back home but uh is this an

00:26:33.440 opportunity if trump wraps this stuff up in iran to really turn our attention to ending this war

00:26:37.700 between russia and ukraine uh it it does not seem to be winding down what are what are you seeing

00:26:43.660 in this part of the world that brings us up to speed here?

00:26:47.600 There is a loss of momentum from Russia, from the people I've talked to.

00:26:52.920 I've been talking to some friends who are over there right now who are, you know, one

00:26:57.260 of them's in Crimea.

00:26:59.380 And I actually traveled with him when I went to Russia.

00:27:01.820 His name's Oleg, great guy.

00:27:03.960 He's a veteran.

00:27:05.440 And he said his, the drones are bombing them daily at this point from Ukraine's side.

00:27:13.660 and his house down there has the windows been blown out because of the drones um it's a terrible

00:27:22.140 situation and you know there's nowhere to go where do you go that's where you live

00:27:26.940 um the ukrainians are getting a lot of drones from america they're getting a lot of funding

00:27:31.420 and help from america and russia is making progress there's no way ukraine can win but

00:27:38.380 we are slowing them down, which is only prolonging the civilian casualties.

00:27:43.240 They captured the eastern portions of Konstantinovka, which is one of the main routes into Donbass.

00:27:49.680 It's one of like a golden chain, I think they call it, of forts. 0.74

00:27:53.780 And if they can completely capture that, they can cut off Ukraine from basically all of Donbass.

00:27:59.040 So they're making gains, but it's costing them a lot.

00:28:02.600 And I've heard that Putin is losing some of his support,

00:28:05.680 that some of the decisions he's making

00:28:07.720 are not very popular as far as the war goes,

00:28:10.900 that he's not committing strong enough to it.

00:28:14.520 I think that, I mean,

00:28:16.400 President Trump just announced yesterday or today at G7

00:28:19.780 that he's talked to Zelensky and Putin separately

00:28:22.760 and that he had great conversations with them.

00:28:26.360 And so Trump has talked about this relentlessly

00:28:30.360 since he got into office wanting to end it,

00:28:31.980 that it's not his war, that it was Biden's war.

00:28:33.740 We don't need to be there.

00:28:35.280 I think if he genuinely wants to do that, I mean, just stop funding.

00:28:40.020 That would end the war in less than a month.

00:28:42.880 But does that end the war with, like, Putin arresting Zelensky and marching into Kiev?

00:28:48.560 I don't know that that's what Trump wants to see.

00:28:51.140 I think that's what a lot of Ukrainians would like to see because Zelensky is not the popular president.

00:28:57.240 But, Pearson, just like it's unreasonable for the Ukrainians to say the war is going to end with them getting Crimea back,

00:29:03.840 i think it's kind of unreasonable this view that like it's the war ends with ukraine not being a

00:29:09.940 country well that's not the russian flag flying that's not the goal from from the people i've

00:29:14.540 talked to that's not the goal they want security for the russian speakers in eastern ukraine they

00:29:20.540 want uh ukraine to never be a part of nato and they want the u.s to stop funding this basically

00:29:26.680 puppet leader whose sole purpose is to antagonize russia you know they want a bipartisan a neutral

00:29:33.980 leader running the country who's not anti-russia who's not pro-western people in ukraine vote for

00:29:39.140 their own leader they should but zolinci canceled the elections you know that is an that is an

00:29:44.000 unpleasant feature you know i uh when we go to war david for democracies i prefer to be democracies

00:29:49.640 that hold elections yeah that helps not that cancel them but there seems to be kind of a lot

00:29:54.240 of fatigue around this conflict, but it goes on anyway. Where do you see it? I think, you know,

00:29:59.980 Trump wanted to end this war day one. I mean, this has been something he wants to see. And 0.53

00:30:04.200 obviously we're in a different geopolitical environment than we were when Trump first

00:30:09.920 got into office. And Iran, this MOU, I mean, you'd mentioned it yourself. We have more visibility.

00:30:14.680 We have more leverage over Iran than certainly we had a while ago. Venezuela, we have a much

00:30:19.760 different relationship with. Cuba, potentially very soon, you might have a different relationship

00:30:23.640 with. So I think regardless of the war ending right now, and I do believe Trump is going to

00:30:29.340 refocus his efforts. I mean, he's meeting with Zelensky or met with Zelensky at G7, and a lot

00:30:35.120 of the world leaders have now said, look, let's do something. But what do you think he says to

00:30:38.100 these guys to end the war? I think he says, look, here's where we're at. Everybody wants to make

00:30:42.000 money. I mean, and that's what does... Zelensky's making money. Well, right, but he's making

00:30:46.720 American money too. I think Trump wants to find an outcome that gets this war to a resolution.

00:30:53.140 I agree with your representation to Pearson.

00:30:56.280 I don't think it ends with Ukraine getting Crimea, certainly, and I don't think it ends with a Russian flag flying over Ukraine.

00:31:02.380 So there has to be some sort of peace deal.

00:31:04.360 Isn't it what Pearson said, though?

00:31:06.080 They don't join NATO.

00:31:07.560 They kind of have, like, some sort of neutrality.

00:31:09.140 Which is a very reasonable election.

00:31:11.720 But the United States doesn't want to hand Russia that kind of a victory either, which is why it makes this extra complicated.

00:31:16.980 Because just the threat of putting Ukraine into NATO is enough to have leverage over Russia.

00:31:23.040 And I think...

00:31:23.760 What's that leverage worth, though?

00:31:25.120 That's a very good question.

00:31:26.320 Where it brings us this close to a nuclear conflict.

00:31:27.100 Well, no, I'm not.

00:31:28.600 Ukraine, Russia, I've never understood enough of the nuance behind it to know what the best possible outcome for the United States.

00:31:34.200 Everything I look at internationally, I look at how is this benefiting the United States?

00:31:37.820 What's the best possible outcome for the United States?

00:31:39.260 Not being involved would be a great benefit.

00:31:41.180 Right, but...

00:31:41.780 And not having Russia as an enemy would be a great benefit.

00:31:43.120 But sometimes you can't not be involved when...

00:31:45.680 Do you see that as a...

00:31:46.880 Because this is a big question that divides a lot of the foreign policy community.

00:31:49.660 can russia be converted to a strategic partner not an ally but a strategic absolutely yeah uh

00:31:57.160 by the way you asked that question to a bunch of these cold war boomers who i served with in 0.86

00:32:01.020 congress they're like absolutely you know what's good dead russians we're killing russia the more 0.72

00:32:06.180 russians we kill the better and i'm like you know it kind of seems like if we worked with russia on 0.99

00:32:10.300 the arctic and anti-islamic extremism and uh you know a few other things maybe there's more to gain 0.98

00:32:17.400 than there is to lose.

00:32:18.400 Tons more.

00:32:18.700 I think depending on who you ask,

00:32:20.780 between if they were happy or sad

00:32:22.500 about the last few elections,

00:32:23.900 they would argue that Russia's already

00:32:25.120 a strategic partner.

00:32:26.780 But the way I see it is,

00:32:29.420 look, we share a space station.

00:32:31.340 We could be at war with Russia, literally. 0.79

00:32:34.040 We could have a Cold War with Russia 0.86

00:32:35.520 and we'd be riding their rockets 0.94

00:32:37.220 and they'd be riding ours. 0.69

00:32:38.240 It's so ridiculous that we have this 0.70

00:32:40.140 sort of military grievance with Russia,

00:32:42.160 but yet we get along on all these other things.

00:32:44.200 So certainly there's room

00:32:45.280 for a strategic partnership.

00:32:46.900 We're getting along better with China.

00:32:48.600 I think the days of creating these geopolitical boogeymen just for the simple fact of building big armies that we're never going to do anything with besides drop bombs and then buy new ones, I think there should be a way for us to find a common ground with Russia. 0.74

00:33:02.000 We should find common ground with China.

00:33:03.840 Getting along with people and everybody benefiting should be the dream. 0.99

00:33:07.060 That should be the plan.

00:33:07.640 It's why President Trump took a step over between South Korea and North Korea.

00:33:11.260 He says, look, I'm not just going to threaten you.

00:33:13.160 I can't threaten you, but let's shake hands first. 0.68

00:33:14.980 So, yeah, why not try to get along with Russia?

00:33:16.900 Because the day Trump tries to get along with Russia, you know, the left's going to be like, see, the whole time it's been right there. 0.52

00:33:22.640 But this Russia-Ukraine thing complicates that.

00:33:24.980 I think Trump wants peace so Trump can make those deals and so we can have the strategic partnership.

00:33:29.320 But as long as that war is there, that's never going to happen.

00:33:31.280 The only way that Russia is going to accept a peace is with those conditions, when those conditions are met.

00:33:36.300 But nobody's going to give them those conditions.

00:33:37.880 What, securing safety for Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine?

00:33:41.560 I can't imagine an outcome where Trump or our partners promise Russia

00:33:46.660 that Ukraine would never join NATO.

00:33:49.840 You can see that.

00:33:51.480 Trump has already talked about that.

00:33:52.700 I think he's already demonstrated a flexibility on that point.

00:33:56.180 I think that would be a mistake.

00:33:57.960 I think Trump understands.

00:33:59.520 I think the mistake has been NATO expansion, personally.

00:34:01.780 Well, yeah, 100%.

00:34:03.140 What has NATO done for us is the question, yes.

00:34:05.880 Trump understands the situation, I think.

00:34:07.860 He and Putin, like we've talked about, I think,

00:34:09.720 have a very close understanding

00:34:11.380 of what the situation is

00:34:12.520 and they're the big boys in the room

00:34:14.420 and I think they are going to agree

00:34:16.140 to these very reasonable demands from Russia

00:34:17.920 and Ukraine is going to have to accept

00:34:19.980 losing some territory.

00:34:21.340 I think that's the only way this is going to end.

00:34:22.960 It would be a huge economic boom 0.97

00:34:24.480 if you had the United States and Russia

00:34:26.340 cooperating on rare earth,

00:34:29.400 on new market development.

00:34:31.620 It would be better

00:34:32.720 than the value proposition

00:34:35.840 being offered from China.

00:34:37.420 We could use an economic boost.

00:34:39.340 We've seen some numbers lately that are a little bit troubling, especially around inflation.

00:34:44.040 And the national debt is almost $40 trillion.

00:34:46.740 We've seen gas get more expensive.

00:34:48.680 And Washington's answer is always to spend more.

00:34:51.060 Print more money.

00:34:52.620 Watch your savings burn.

00:34:54.280 I was in Congress.

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00:35:51.740 Gentlemen, I want to get to this story coming out of the UK.

00:35:56.060 There's a lot of big stories coming out of the UK.

00:35:59.140 We'll get to the social media one in a moment.

00:36:01.820 But first, the grooming gangs of the U.K.

00:36:05.400 What do we need to know about this?

00:36:06.580 It's horrendous.

00:36:07.620 It's catastrophic, apocalyptic.

00:36:10.440 There's no way to describe how bad it was and is.

00:36:13.840 There was a report, a 219-page report from the Rape Gang Inquiry

00:36:19.140 that examined decades' worth of data of cases of rape,

00:36:25.860 which are underreported, by the way.

00:36:27.460 We can get to that later.

00:36:27.900 Tell us what's happening. 0.99

00:36:28.680 So basically across over 40% of the UK, there are organized rape gangs. 0.75

00:36:37.560 And in this report, 250,000 white girls, white Christian girls were raped. 0.90

00:36:45.280 These are the numbers. 0.75

00:36:46.740 Who are the people joining these gangs?

00:36:49.120 95% of them are Pakistani Muslims. 0.58

00:36:55.060 95%. 1.00

00:36:56.020 This is not, you know

00:36:58.120 Not a small cohort of the group

00:36:59.660 That's not a small cohort

00:37:00.560 Absolutely not 1.00

00:37:02.020 And these girls were targeted for rape, gang rape 0.89

00:37:05.180 Do they report it? 0.90

00:37:07.360 They do report it

00:37:08.420 But it gets suppressed

00:37:09.980 It gets suppressed and buried

00:37:12.280 In one case

00:37:14.120 Let me read this to you

00:37:15.280 Because it's beyond horrifying

00:37:17.780 It's gut-wrenching

00:37:18.680 A concerned mother described

00:37:21.820 And this is from State of the Day

00:37:24.220 A concerned mother described the perpetrator

00:37:26.560 She believed to have abducted her daughter

00:37:28.320 To a UK police desk sergeant

00:37:30.020 And she was abraded on the phone

00:37:32.000 Quote, you can't describe the men as Asian

00:37:34.860 The officer said

00:37:36.000 That's racist

00:37:37.260 You should be glad your child is being taught 1.00

00:37:39.900 Another culture 1.00

00:37:41.020 That is what the police officer

00:37:44.480 Told the mother

00:37:45.320 Then it got worse

00:37:47.280 Police located the girl

00:37:48.900 And returned her to the house

00:37:51.600 Where the abuse was occurring

00:37:53.180 telling the men inside, quote,

00:37:56.640 have fun with her.

00:38:00.060 Later, the police advised the men to pressure Fiona,

00:38:03.120 the woman's name in the report,

00:38:04.440 to sign herself out of the care

00:38:06.140 so the police wouldn't bother them anymore.

00:38:09.680 Jeez.

00:38:10.620 A young woman who had attempted suicide 1.00

00:38:13.280 as a result of all the raping

00:38:14.820 later went on Facebook and named her perpetrators. 0.96

00:38:17.340 When the post went viral,

00:38:18.600 the police showed up and arrested her.

00:38:20.500 Her. 1.00

00:38:21.340 Her.

00:38:21.760 and that's not a one-off.

00:38:24.900 One young woman was abducted

00:38:26.540 and abused by five men

00:38:27.980 and was forced into having eight abortions.

00:38:31.940 Her abusers required her to wear a hijab

00:38:33.920 and walk five feet behind them in public. 0.87

00:38:35.820 This is a white British girl. 0.99

00:38:38.000 Someone who was abducted.

00:38:38.980 Yes. 0.99

00:38:39.740 This is not a Pakistani Muslim girl. 0.95

00:38:42.640 She was forced to wear a hijab 1.00

00:38:44.120 and walk five feet behind them in public.

00:38:45.700 She was required to learn Arabic and Urdu

00:38:47.780 and only speak those languages.

00:38:50.020 She made several attempts to escape, one of which she reported to a police station.

00:38:54.060 The Muslim police officer told her to drop the charges for lack of evidence.

00:39:00.460 They are targeting girls as young as eight years old.

00:39:03.420 Pearson, why is there not like a huge uproar over this in the UK?

00:39:07.000 There should be.

00:39:08.280 This has been suppressed.

00:39:09.380 I mean, this just came out, but this has been suppressed.

00:39:11.780 There was a conservative party in which, you know, in UK it's not conservative, but that's what it's called.

00:39:16.660 a conservative party pushed last year to do an investigation into this and keir starmer the

00:39:22.500 labor party the radical left stopped the investigation and then he said later uh he

00:39:28.320 said well okay we will do an investigation this is june of last year and we'll have the results by

00:39:32.780 april of 2026 so almost a year later and then april 26 came wrong and nothing happened so this

00:39:39.700 was an independent investigation because the government tried to suppress it so there are

00:39:44.840 Violent immigrant rape gangs

00:39:47.840 Across the UK 1.00

00:39:48.980 Running across the UK

00:39:49.960 And what Keir Starmer has jolted into action on

00:39:54.320 Just this week

00:39:55.660 With emergency speed of the government

00:39:59.080 Was banning adolescents and minors from social media

00:40:04.300 So apparently the real harm

00:40:07.700 And the real danger that they were fighting in the UK

00:40:11.280 was social media use of adolescents,

00:40:15.680 not these violent...

00:40:17.380 Well, I mean, that one girl, she reported it

00:40:19.420 and she posted about it on social media

00:40:21.040 and she got arrested.

00:40:22.120 And she's not the only one.

00:40:23.200 I've read dozens of cases of that.

00:40:25.200 This is...

00:40:26.520 Well, in this report, remember,

00:40:27.520 the government didn't even pay for this report.

00:40:28.700 The government didn't.

00:40:29.120 This was privately funded

00:40:30.320 by people who wanted this turned out

00:40:32.540 by the reform.

00:40:33.380 The government blocked it.

00:40:34.580 Is the UK too far gone, David?

00:40:37.500 Beyond too far gone.

00:40:38.680 I mean, look...

00:40:39.720 It's not savable.

00:40:40.500 You've seen the – well, no, I mean, and that's the warning for here because what happens there happens here next.

00:40:45.400 And if you look what happened, it first was started with the mass migration.

00:40:48.360 Then, of course, people started standing up against the mass migration.

00:40:51.680 They were called racists, and if you're called racist, you saw what happened to that boy who was stabbed by the Sikh a year ago.

00:40:57.380 He was stabbed, and the Sikh who stabbed him, for no reason, by the way, said he tore off my headdress.

00:41:04.920 Well, he made racial comments.

00:41:05.840 Yeah, and he said he made racist comments.

00:41:08.480 So the police officer cuffed the guy.

00:41:10.520 This guy had stabbed while he's bleeding.

00:41:12.440 He says, I've been stabbed.

00:41:13.460 He goes, I don't think I have, mate.

00:41:14.660 Well, he bled to death.

00:41:16.220 Yeah, I don't think so, mate.

00:41:17.680 And then what just happened about two weeks ago, the Sunnis guy tried to behead some. 0.59

00:41:22.980 In Belfast.

00:41:23.900 Yeah.

00:41:24.280 And this guy was led in on asylum.

00:41:26.520 And then Parliament was trying to figure out how to get the guy who tried to behead this guy out of it, essentially.

00:41:32.920 Politically, though, they're trying to divide the right.

00:41:35.000 Like, you know, they've got the conservative party, which I don't think we would classify as conservative.

00:41:40.200 Then Nigel Farage has got his Reform UK party. 0.79

00:41:43.480 And then there's another group that's kind of more like, you know, groiper aligned.

00:41:48.280 And it's a divided right.

00:41:50.080 And the left is governing this way.

00:41:53.180 But that's what they're doing here.

00:41:54.500 But, I mean, that's exactly the point.

00:41:56.440 I mean, that's what they're trying to do here with this MAGA divide.

00:41:58.900 They're trying to separate us from each other so the left can win.

00:42:03.080 But what's happening there is so much worse.

00:42:04.780 And I'll turn it over to you because these riots that are happening in the street, these aren't like George Soros-funded Antifa riots where people are given pre-printed signs.

00:42:12.960 These are people sick and tired of not being able to actually say something when the police are showing up to their house and trying to put them in jail for saying something about it.

00:42:20.240 I mean, this is the absolute worst-case scenario, and this report is so damning, way bigger than Epstein.

00:42:26.520 I mean, this is the government literally covering up 250,000.

00:42:30.520 And that's on the low end.

00:42:32.320 That's a very conservative estimate.

00:42:33.740 That's what we know about.

00:42:34.300 Probably over 400,000 because a lot of these cases don't get recorded.

00:42:39.140 It's proven. 0.82

00:42:39.940 The girls will go and tell the police and the police will dismiss them and tell them to go away.

00:42:43.680 Is there like a role here for the U.S. government or do we...

00:42:48.600 This is just a warning to all, to all the Western world at this point.

00:42:52.260 You cannot continue to import barbarians like this and expect anything different to happen 1.00

00:42:58.140 because you look at it, it's 95% of these were Pakistani Muslim men. 1.00

00:43:04.600 It's disproportionate.

00:43:05.300 You don't see a bunch of white British people going out 1.00

00:43:08.660 and raping a bunch of young Muslim girls. 1.00

00:43:11.320 That doesn't happen. 1.00

00:43:12.580 That's not the story here.

00:43:13.940 And when you go and you look at these countries they're coming from, 1.00

00:43:17.500 Pakistan, Afghanistan, they have massive problems with rape. 0.98

00:43:22.120 And the same thing happened here. 0.55

00:43:23.200 And I covered this on my show tonight.

00:43:25.080 This happened in the United States, too, 1.00

00:43:26.540 When Biden let in all of the Afghanis without any vetting whatsoever, they started sexually assaulting people in the United States. 0.93

00:43:34.660 There were terrible instances of that in those camps. 0.98

00:43:36.880 Right. But luckily, now Trump, but this is the warning is this.

00:43:40.500 Stop protesting outside of ICE facilities because these men and women are removing these people from our country before they can form rape gangs.

00:43:47.440 I mean, that is the situation. It's not just Middle Easterners in the United States. 0.91

00:43:50.160 Of course, we have all the South American and Central American people.

00:43:54.280 In Afghanistan, over 50% of girls and women have been raped.

00:44:01.960 Over 50%.

00:44:03.220 And over 30% of marriages are underage.

00:44:07.500 Wow.

00:44:09.220 This is the culture.

00:44:10.500 These are the people who are coming over.

00:44:11.800 So the question is...

00:44:12.860 Well, they're importing them, but why? 0.90

00:44:14.300 If you could cut rape in half with one change to immigration policy, would you? 0.89

00:44:23.760 Obviously. 1.00

00:44:25.160 So that means a Muslim ban. 1.00

00:44:28.080 Get rid of the Muslims. 1.00

00:44:30.000 That is the problem here because it's not the Buddhists who are coming over and doing it, 1.00

00:44:34.460 although I don't think they have a place there either. 1.00

00:44:36.180 It's the Muslims. 1.00

00:44:37.520 The Christians aren't doing this. 1.00

00:44:38.740 It's the Muslims. 1.00

00:44:40.100 This is the problem. 1.00

00:44:41.620 Is anything like that being proposed or discussed in the UK?

00:44:44.340 They're doing that in Cologne, in Germany.

00:44:47.180 They're doing that in Sweden.

00:44:48.160 They're doing that in Norway.

00:44:48.880 Everywhere they go, they do this.

00:44:50.980 This should not be a surprise. 0.99

00:44:52.140 There aren't gangs of Muslims raping American women in the United States in mass numbers. 0.95

00:44:57.880 There are growing gangs, but I don't think it's as widespread. 0.97

00:45:00.660 Yeah, probably because we have guns here.

00:45:02.540 And that makes a difference.

00:45:03.320 But is anyone proposing the policy solution that you're talking about in the UK?

00:45:06.860 Not that I've heard.

00:45:07.180 Is anyone talking about it?

00:45:08.220 Well, there is that one far-right group. 0.92

00:45:10.520 It's not reform, but it's another one that says all Muslims should be deported,

00:45:15.760 and the ones who do this, we're not going to bother deporting. 0.53

00:45:18.460 What I've heard is that that group has not achieved any type of ability to participate in a governing coalition.

00:45:26.160 No, it's not large enough.

00:45:27.140 But that may block some of the other right-wing movements that are trying to get overall immigration moratoriums.

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00:46:04.420 It's new. It's a very new movement.

00:46:07.560 I think reform probably has the best chance, and they just got a bunch of victories.

00:46:11.120 I forget what percentage of the government they have is like 20% now.

00:46:13.740 i have to double check but they're growing people are absolutely fed up with this but i just the

00:46:20.480 the the british people have been so browbeaten and and just accused and so terrified of being

00:46:25.600 accused of being racist that they're afraid to do anything that's what's happened to their policing

00:46:29.480 well that's 100 exactly but but there's a warning here too though and and and the muslim ban and

00:46:36.000 again this is i talked about this last week this is also part of the design they want why are they

00:46:41.400 importing people that's your story of the country right and what do they hope is going to happen as

00:46:46.300 a result exactly what's happening in the uk the streets burning people riding going to immigrants

00:46:50.620 houses and saying if you're not from here we're ripping you out of your home and they're no no 0.99

00:46:54.200 they're from here i mean so now you have these gangs of natives essentially roaming the street

00:46:59.880 and i want to point something out but i want to point something out not a single yeah immigrant

00:47:05.460 migrant home in ireland has been burned down not one all of them are homes stolen by the government

00:47:12.620 from native irish people but the point is what you don't want happening is this vigilante justice

00:47:18.220 where you have people so why not because it gives the left exactly what the design is meant to what

00:47:24.880 take it back because the end no but that doesn't happen of course it does no how this ends is the

00:47:30.620 UK sends people into the streets

00:47:32.760 to put those people in jail and then

00:47:34.560 puts laws into place, banning

00:47:36.560 people from communicating with one other and takes away

00:47:38.720 your rights. That is the end result

00:47:40.660 of this. They know what they're doing now.

00:47:42.880 There are more of us than there are them. Yes, but when you say

00:47:44.620 that in the UK, look, ask Tommy Robinson.

00:47:46.740 He can't leave now. Look at what's

00:47:48.620 happening in Belfast. They have fed up and it's going

00:47:50.580 to grow. Yes, but I'm telling you, the governments

00:47:52.800 will never go, oh,

00:47:54.600 well, there's enough of you. We're just going to let you have

00:47:56.560 your way. You saw this during COVID. What happened

00:47:58.460 when you wouldn't wear the mask? Where are the

00:48:00.220 vigilantes prevailed in driving governmental change lately right now in the west i don't

00:48:07.760 they don't have a great large coalitions of that happening yet even the civil war ended badly

00:48:12.780 a lot of us have become complacent you know bread and circusism we've gotten comfortable

00:48:16.780 we don't have there is the gunshot heard around the world there is that moment that will set

00:48:23.480 something off i don't know what it is i don't know when it will happen but there is a a boiling

00:48:29.560 point a line too far that when we've been pushed we will react that is the plan honestly the uk

00:48:36.500 is the proof that it won't because i would have thought somewhere along the way with open borders

00:48:43.440 a dissolving culture uh no real access uh to what it meant to be british anymore well we had

00:48:53.560 700 years of Islamic invasion into Europe before we had the Crusades and we pushed back. 0.97

00:49:00.540 And Charles Martel started pushing back the Battle of Tours and took back, you know, Christian lands. 0.92

00:49:06.780 So I don't know how long this is going to last, but it is civilizational. 0.77

00:49:11.400 We are literally looking at civilizational death if we don't fight back. 0.79

00:49:14.660 Well, now you sound like Israel, right?

00:49:16.960 I mean, Israel feels the same exact way.

00:49:19.100 I don't mean to put you in that camp because I know you feel better than you are.

00:49:21.600 Pearson's always a non-interventionist

00:49:23.820 until it comes to a religious crusade

00:49:25.560 and then he's all in

00:49:26.540 when they're coming to your house 1.00

00:49:28.880 when they're raping your daughter 0.99

00:49:30.660 then you have to get involved 0.99

00:49:32.420 well I can understand

00:49:33.960 the bloodlust for vigilantism

00:49:37.680 for those who are impacted by those things 0.99

00:49:39.500 but in a first world society

00:49:41.760 you have a governmental structure

00:49:43.440 that is not tolerant of that type of

00:49:45.920 abuse

00:49:46.720 so what happens when the government turns on the people

00:49:50.000 when the government is facilitating these evil acts

00:49:52.220 against the people, when you have the police 0.88

00:49:53.700 who are taking these girls back to the houses 0.66

00:49:56.000 where they're being raped. 0.99

00:49:56.860 It's horrendous. It's indefensible. 0.99

00:49:58.040 What do you do?

00:49:59.080 You have to not take the bait,

00:50:01.420 and you have to get involved politically,

00:50:04.180 and you have to take power back

00:50:06.240 and then implement change.

00:50:07.420 That's what we did in the United States.

00:50:08.780 You can vote your way into communism.

00:50:09.460 You have to shoot your way out of it.

00:50:10.960 Okay, but you have to avoid getting into communism to begin with.

00:50:13.640 Well, it's too late. Look at England. It's too late.

00:50:15.260 It's not too late, but the thing is,

00:50:17.720 this is why the United States is so important.

00:50:19.400 And this is why what we do here is so important to what happens there.

00:50:22.540 Because Donald Trump winning, January 6th didn't get Donald Trump back into the White House.

00:50:26.640 A subsequent election did.

00:50:28.420 And so what you have to do is learn from these mistakes,

00:50:31.440 but also not take the bait to become the thing that they keep saying that the other side is.

00:50:37.120 Because then you take the people you need to actually...

00:50:39.060 Who cares what they say about us?

00:50:39.360 Because you need people to vote for your argument.

00:50:41.460 Yeah, but they're great.

00:50:41.720 And you don't win voters.

00:50:43.220 They're the radicals.

00:50:44.240 You're trying to appease the radical left.

00:50:45.820 You're not appeasing.

00:50:46.640 You just have to be more strategic.

00:50:47.660 Well, Pearson believes in appeasement through a Molotov cocktail and a gasoline can, apparently.

00:50:54.940 Metaphorically, of course, only, particularly for any community standards out there.

00:50:59.900 This is the end of our hour, gentlemen.

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The Anchormen Show EP 137 - Iran, Pride Month, and Vigilante Justice

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