The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - The Anchormen Show EP 141 - Bench Pressed

00:00:00.000 now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson sharp

00:00:11.220 welcome back to the show ladies and gentlemen i do sincerely appreciate you all being with

00:00:23.380 us here tonight i am pearson sharp and you're joining us for the anchorman podcast with

00:00:28.000 my co-host Matt Gaetz and with David Pollack. And I promise that we will do our absolute best

00:00:33.860 to indoctrinate you to the most radical, ultra-nationalist conservative views this

00:00:38.320 side of the Mason-Dixon. Matt, you have been out of the seat for a couple of weeks now.

00:00:43.840 What have you been up to? I'm here in Washington, D.C., and it is hot. It is not only a high

00:00:52.240 temperature. It is hot politically. A lot of these primaries, President Trump got his preferred

00:00:58.640 candidate. But there are still those members who are like Thomas Massey or John Cornyn or Bill

00:01:06.160 Cassidy, who the president endorsed against. And they are part of his very narrow majorities.

00:01:12.140 That's getting a lot of us frustrated around things like the Save America Act and other

00:01:17.120 meaningful legislation that we want to see approved. And it could mean trouble for President

00:01:21.220 Trump's appointment. So right now in the administration, a lot of focus on what's going

00:01:25.100 on around the world. But here in Washington, D.C., even among Republicans, there are hurt

00:01:31.440 feelings. There's consternation. And I'm here to cover all of it and bring the behind the scenes

00:01:37.700 look to all of our friends and viewers on One America News. As only you can. So obviously,

00:01:45.740 the big thing today everybody's talking about, Supreme Court, birthright citizenship. That's

00:01:50.800 been a case that has been near and dear to my heart. I think many American loving conservatives

00:01:56.600 have been worried about this, but I think anyone who knows anything about anything has seen the

00:02:01.420 writing on the wall and knew that this was not going to go our way. I mean, did we really expect

00:02:08.140 a woman with two kids from Haiti to vote on our side? Of course not. So we lost this. And like I 1.00

00:02:15.360 was talking with david earlier we lost it barely just barely you know as i was telling david i was

00:02:22.300 expecting a seven to two ruling on this we'd only have alito and thomas on our side but

00:02:27.600 incredibly we got the other two we got gorsuch and uh and we got kavanaugh um yeah so that was

00:02:36.100 incredible. Um, the thing is, you know, courts don't like changing things. They, they revere

00:02:44.700 precedent. You know, it takes a lot to get a new understanding of the constitution,

00:02:47.820 but I think this is showing that there is a change. You know, we are one justice away from

00:02:53.820 getting birthright citizenship. And I think this shows that the tide is shifting and that we've

00:02:58.640 got more American minded, new thinking people running things. And so hopefully that means that

00:03:04.620 in our lifetimes, we might see Congress do something with this. I don't know. Matt,

00:03:09.060 what do you think? I can't wait to get David's perspective. I think the birthright citizenship

00:03:17.280 ruling is a disgrace. I think that everyone who is with the majority will have this as a part of 0.99

00:03:23.860 a tainted legacy forever, no matter what else they do. This decision lashes America to a

00:03:33.400 self-destructive path. In the modern world today, birthright citizenship is not a thing

00:03:39.760 among our peer countries. It is absolutely not a thing. And if it were not being used to scam us,

00:03:47.440 maybe I would not be so upset. But we see these birthing tourism centers. We see the Chinese 0.99

00:03:53.540 Communist Party. We see the narcos from Latin America getting their baby mamas across the 0.99

00:03:59.860 border and getting the next generation of narco talent, the full suite of protections that we 0.97

00:04:05.640 would apply to our fellow Americans. And I, for a moment, was optimistic. I was not as pessimistic 0.99

00:04:13.700 as you, Pearson. So maybe the eggs are my face, because I didn't think that Amy Comey Barrett's

00:04:18.640 home situation would have dictated her views on this subject. She is proving to be an unreliable 1.00

00:04:25.500 vote on the Supreme Court. That's kind of the sub headline here, is that Amy Coney Barrett is not

00:04:31.020 a reliable vote. Probably was a mistake to have on the court, frankly. You know, her biggest backer

00:04:36.440 was Mike Johnson. You know, the number one person pushing Donald Trump to pick Amy Coney Barrett 0.98

00:04:41.340 was Mike Johnson. You know, they were law school classmates. But I am enraged by the decision. I

00:04:47.060 need to go get my blood pressure medication from All Family Pharmacy because of it. But David,

00:04:52.080 you know, talk me off the ledge here, buddy. I might just push you because I watched yesterday

00:04:58.900 this terrible, terrible vote by mail decision come down. And I saw what Barrett did. And I saw

00:05:06.420 that, you know, Robert side with her. And I said, Ooh, this, this is going to tell me something

00:05:11.360 about tomorrow. The way they rule on birthright will tell me everything I need to know about

00:05:15.100 Roberts and Barrett, whether yesterday was actually a constitutional decision. And really,

00:05:20.360 they saw an opportunity to let Congress make the decision, which justices do sometimes.

00:05:24.560 We've read about it in law school, Matt. Sometimes justices would rather Congress make the decision

00:05:28.320 and not put the pressure on the court. I think yesterday was a really bad decision

00:05:32.060 because I don't think it's a state's issue about whether or not

00:05:36.280 election day is election day. I think it's a constitutional interpretation. I think the Supreme Court

00:05:40.240 really put us in a really difficult position with respect to what is election day.

00:05:44.520 Congress doesn't get to decide what election day is because guess what? Congress changes

00:05:48.180 every two years and the definition of election day can't change every two years with congress but

00:05:52.420 i'll put that aside for a second because i said to myself i said depending on how they rule

00:05:57.240 with birthright will tell me if this was a political decision or a constitutional one

00:06:01.580 and today with comey barrett and with um roberts deciding essentially that um you a baby an infant

00:06:10.820 born um to illegal aliens can have full faith and allegiance to a country when they don't even know 0.99

00:06:15.700 who their parents are, it's the stupidest Supreme Court precedent I've ever said. 0.99

00:06:19.380 And they're relying on a case from the 1800s with two Chinese parents 0.99

00:06:23.460 who were lawful permanent residents who had a child that became a citizen.

00:06:27.020 They're doing that essentially to rewrite the citizenship clause

00:06:31.300 which grew out of descendants of slavery.

00:06:34.100 There's absolutely no nexus, no precedent for illegal aliens coming to the United States,

00:06:40.040 having children, and having those children have full faith and allegiance when their parents don't.

00:06:43.760 it was a terrible decision it's terrible case law and i agree with you matt um this this really

00:06:48.120 screws america you guys are incredible i i never ever thought this was going to go any other way

00:06:55.840 this was 100 predetermined you know and to take it back into my realm my my wheelhouse uh you know

00:07:03.100 this is like in lord of the rings the scouring of the shire you know when you have all the orcs

00:07:07.620 move into the shire suddenly they're having babies in the shire and now they're hobbits

00:07:11.920 no no these are orcs to begin with and they don't belong here so i hope somebody at home

00:07:19.360 is following that i don't know um no i it's a it's a core question about identity actually

00:07:26.620 yeah and i think i think it's well made even even with the strange uh literary reference

00:07:31.660 because what this decision does is it erodes our identity and as americans whether you're an

00:07:39.480 american by naturalization whether you're a heritage american what this says is what you

00:07:45.020 have isn't valuable and it's hard for a society be it human hobbit or otherwise to survive if

00:07:53.800 the society doesn't hold an identity and cherish it and work to culture matter that identity and

00:08:00.700 advance that identity right and what this is saying is a culture uh you know what's your

00:08:06.460 subject to the jurisdiction, to all of that, that kind of goes out the window. This is more like a

00:08:12.580 lottery. And if you win the lottery by being born here, you're just it. And there are very real

00:08:18.740 policy implications of this. You know what it got me thinking, fellas? I bet you in the boiler room

00:08:26.940 of Stephen Miller's office with all the brilliant attorneys he has working with him in the policy

00:08:30.960 shop, they're working up some responses to this around visas and who's allowed to come here.

00:08:36.360 Because did you know right now you can't even ask someone in a lot of cases if they are planning to become pregnant, if they if they have that as part of the deal on their way into the United States, if they're going to one of these birthing tourism centers.

00:08:51.540 And so we may have to use a lot more administrative screening on the front end and a lot more border enforcement and, as Tom Homan said, more internal enforcement of our immigration laws as a direct response to this bad ruling.

00:09:06.700 Well, let me jump in on that, if I can, real quick, because I want to touch on two of the things you said.

00:09:10.520 One, with respect to diluting what it means to be American.

00:09:13.460 That was directly in Clarence Thomas's beautiful dissent, where he basically said that you were diluting what it means to be a citizen.

00:09:20.440 And more so than diluting what it means to be a citizen, it also dilutes American culture.

00:09:24.800 And they said, and Roberts was very specific to say, well, there is no bloodline privilege to becoming a United States citizen.

00:09:30.540 That was made clear after Dred v. Scott.

00:09:33.320 And for those who don't know, that was the decision that basically said that a slave isn't entitled to U.S. citizenship.

00:09:38.420 The Civil Rights Act and then later the Citizenship Clause that we're referring to, born in the United States, being subject to the jurisdiction thereof, grew out of wanting to make right a wrong.

00:09:48.760 and that was denying enslaved people

00:09:51.080 and the descendants thereof of being American citizens.

00:09:53.120 One has nothing to do with the other, clearly.

00:09:55.240 But on the other thing you said, Matt,

00:09:56.500 which makes it really interesting

00:09:57.700 with respect to now what can we do

00:10:00.000 from a regulatory standpoint.

00:10:02.060 Kavanaugh's concurring opinion was really weird

00:10:03.800 with respect to what he thought Congress could do.

00:10:05.940 Congress doesn't have authority over the Constitution.

00:10:08.780 We'll put that aside for a second.

00:10:10.300 But naturalization is controlled by the Congress.

00:10:14.060 And so we can do screening exactly like you said.

00:10:16.400 Congress can pass a law that says, 1.00

00:10:17.820 Are you pregnant? If you're pregnant and you're from certain countries, you might not be allowed into the United States. 0.99

00:10:23.100 We can tighten those things. We can also criminalize these birthing centers. 1.00

00:10:25.940 We can do things regulatory and legislatively to combat this. 1.00

00:10:30.420 But, Matt, we don't have 60 votes in the Senate. 0.99

00:10:33.300 We have a filibuster, and we can't even get them to secure our damn elections. 0.97

00:10:36.640 What makes anybody—we don't even have 50. 0.98

00:10:39.100 We don't even have 50.

00:10:40.560 So how in the world are we going to get our naturalization process amended to accommodate for this decision 0.99

00:10:46.600 when we can't even keep illegals from voting in our damn election. 0.98

00:10:49.380 So, I mean, the naturalization process is one aspect of this. 0.99

00:10:52.760 But the other thing that assumes that you are catching them before they come into the country.

00:10:58.420 You know, the majority of these anchor babies are had by people who come over without us being aware of it.

00:11:04.780 You know, they hop the border and they drop the baby and bam, they got an American citizen. 0.70

00:11:08.620 It's one thing to have, you know, these red Chinese tiger moms flying over here and dropping a little baby who's just as suddenly an American as you or I. 0.89

00:11:16.600 But, you know, the majority of these people are coming over 250,000 on the low end a year.

00:11:22.040 The Center of Immigration Studies gave us that number.

00:11:24.760 250,000 on the low end.

00:11:26.500 I'm going to say it's probably closer to 300,000, 350,000 at least of these people,

00:11:31.060 which is over 7% of the births in the United States every year.

00:11:35.620 That's insane.

00:11:37.340 That's absolutely insane.

00:11:38.700 That is so crazy.

00:11:39.740 No.

00:11:41.200 And it's crowding out the NICUs too, Pearson,

00:11:44.720 Because a lot of these are not the mothers who got the prenatal care, who got the vitamins, who had the right diet.

00:11:51.740 And so the most heartbreaking stories I ever heard in Congress were, you know, the parents who lived in Yuma, Arizona.

00:12:00.180 And they needed the NICU services for the taxes they had paid.

00:12:05.460 They'd lived in the community for an extended period of time.

00:12:08.340 They thought their baby would be taken care of.

00:12:10.300 But they had to take a three-hour drive to Phoenix with a baby clinging to life because the people who had just come over the border and had a baby were soaking up those services.

00:12:24.820 What's disgusting is just that, you know, the disadvantage this puts Americans at.

00:12:31.400 And Democrats just don't seem to care about that.

00:12:33.300 Like, it's all about the migrants, their rights, whatever we can give them.

00:12:37.700 What about American citizens?

00:12:38.980 What about the people born here? Our heritage, our rights, the job market that we're looking at, the houses that we want to buy, all of that. They're just throwing that down the drain. There's an incredible heat map that maybe we can pull up and put on the screen that shows, they did a study where they talked to a statistically significant number of participants, and they were conservatives and Democrats, and they asked them questions about their priorities.

00:13:04.060 and the democrat priorities were it you know it starts in the middle with self and family and

00:13:11.200 then neighborhood and then city and state and country and then international and all the

00:13:16.500 democrat values were for things away from their family away from their home for for further out

00:13:21.620 and away from the things that were closest to them all the conservative values the things they cared

00:13:25.740 about most were their family their friends the things immediately close to them and i think we

00:13:30.740 see that playing out in large in these kinds of rulings you know the democrats don't care what

00:13:35.680 happens to us it's all about the other people and it's just disgusting um i wanted to uh to read

00:13:45.640 something that thomas said that i thought was phenomenal um because this is about the 14th

00:13:51.280 amendment that's what this comes down to which everybody kindergarteners understand this was

00:13:57.220 about giving blacks the right to vote. You know, this is basic United States history. And Thomas

00:14:03.240 said the blacks were entitled to citizenship because they were Americans. That's indisputable. 0.97

00:14:07.880 You can't argue that. They had no other homeland, owed allegiance to no other foreign power, and

00:14:12.880 were subject to no other authority. You know, the citizenship clause, he said, has consistently

00:14:19.580 been interpreted not to apply to the children of foreign temporary visitors who were by definition

00:14:24.400 not domiciled in the united states today's opinion totally devalues citizenship yeah well

00:14:31.180 and domicile that is the key and and and roberts took a long time to suggest that domicile isn't

00:14:37.660 the um isn't the standard he was suggesting that you don't have to be domiciled here because the

00:14:44.760 founders or the framers had the this idea that you can be passing through america have a child

00:14:50.740 and that child would then be a citizen and so that was sort of the logic is that you can even

00:14:58.760 be telling me domicile isn't the key and obviously clarence thomas disagreed with that i agree with

00:15:02.500 clarence thomas's dissent this is going to be one of those cases and and i taught law school you

00:15:07.540 learned about these dissents that end up becoming the law after bad decision paul's graph being one

00:15:12.120 of the most famous ones um the dissent in that case ended up becoming law later on um the the

00:15:17.920 the idea here is this is a slippery slope. It has to be dealt with. And I think Congress can

00:15:23.140 potentially pass a law, bring another case to the Supreme Court, and maybe we'd have a different

00:15:27.180 result. But this is bad. What's astonishing, too, is that the birthing tourism was not even

00:15:33.580 addressed. Robert said that he didn't see how that applies to this case. Yeah. Well, no, yeah,

00:15:39.220 he said it doesn't apply because the public policy implications doesn't sort of trump the 14th

00:15:46.780 amendment. They're saying that the, the, yes, these things happen, but that doesn't mean the

00:15:50.980 constitution doesn't apply. That's stupid. So one thing I wanted to ask, um, some people who 1.00

00:15:55.940 are smarter than me, you know, there's both of you, um, you have Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno

00:16:01.880 calling on Congress to act now, uh, to address the issue of birthright citizenship. And you have

00:16:07.980 Trump saying, uh, quote, no long and unwieldy constitutional amendment is necessary. Where are

00:16:14.900 you going with that? How's that going to work? Do you think it's a possibility?

00:16:19.800 Matt, you were in Congress. I think it's a real sign that in, yeah, I think it's a real sign that

00:16:24.180 in a state like Ohio, that let's be honest, you know, there's some real competitive races statewide

00:16:29.060 in Ohio, a big governor's race, a big Senate race, some big congressional races, you know, not like

00:16:34.300 ruby red, you know, South Carolina or something like that. And so in Ohio, for the sitting

00:16:41.540 Senator to say that it shows that there's not some big backlash from persuadable voters that

00:16:46.960 lawmakers are worried about. The politics could be good in even swing jurisdictions to really lead

00:16:54.200 on this. But practically speaking, as I said earlier, guys, let me burst your bubble. Not only

00:16:59.960 are there not 60 votes in the United States Senate for this, there aren't even 50. Like a bunch of

00:17:05.340 the McConnell wing of the Republican Party is not going to back Senator Marino on this. And that's

00:17:11.200 a shame. His vision is the right one. And it is a frequent source of frustration when we have these

00:17:16.980 discussions that like, here we have it all. We have the House, we have the Senate, we have the

00:17:21.440 presidency, we have the Supreme Court. And on something as foundational culturally as birthright

00:17:27.400 citizenship, it doesn't appear as though this is where we're going to make the progress. So

00:17:30.680 the sad answers don't look to Congress. But I return to the fact that I think there are some

00:17:35.280 remedies in sharper review of potential visa applicants that could reduce this. But when

00:17:43.460 you're talking about 7% of the overall births in the entire country, Pearson, it's an astonishingly 1.00

00:17:49.120 high number, and you're not going to deal with it with nips and tucks.

00:17:53.140 So Trump is just, that's a pipe dream? There's nothing behind that? 0.65

00:17:58.840 I think he wanted to do it. Look, he took the bold action of doing the executive order. The

00:18:03.900 problem is, of course, we've invalidated that. I think it remains to be seen. I mean, it's

00:18:10.140 interesting. David, if we think about this decision, if it were not an executive order,

00:18:15.140 if it were a congressional action, you would probably still lose the majority of the court

00:18:19.760 because as much reference as they have for Congress, they're doing an analysis of the

00:18:25.400 14th Amendment using some of the arcane jurisprudence you referenced. But I don't know that a Senate

00:18:30.700 and House passed bill signed by the president fares any better with this court materially?

00:18:37.300 Do you read it differently?

00:18:38.720 That was literally going there in my mind when you asked me that question.

00:18:43.420 I think if Congress passed this and this hit the president's desk for a signature,

00:18:48.080 I don't know that the court would have ruled on it the same way.

00:18:51.120 I believe, and I've said this before, I think Comey Barrett and John Roberts, it's no secret.

00:18:57.880 I mean, we're talking about a Bush appointee, somebody who's establishment, somebody who does not like Trump, somebody I'm sure who's on the phone with the former President Bush, and they talk about how much they dislike Trump.

00:19:07.780 I'm sure. I don't know. I don't have anything to prove that, but it wouldn't surprise me if they get on the phone who's like, hey, good job, good job.

00:19:15.540 So when you look at Amy Comey Barrett, and like you mentioned, Mike Johnson's pick, she has been on the wrong side of a lot of decisions, and so has Roberts.

00:19:23.740 I mean, healthcare, or Obamacare.

00:19:25.380 So it doesn't surprise me here, and I can't help but think, I'm not saying that their jurisprudence wasn't based on the Constitution, but on these decisions where you can really go one way or the other, and if you ever err on the side of the Constitution versus erring on the side of politics, I think the conservatives in the dissent in both these decisions erred on the side of the Constitution.

00:19:46.480 And it seems politics crept in, in some form of bias in these other decisions because they don't make sense. They're not consistent with the way a conservative justice would rule. And that is the problem I have with it. So no, I think if it went through Congress, I don't think it would have Trump's, you know, sort of brand on it. And as a result, I think it might have had different scrutiny. I really do.

00:20:07.720 I just – I can't find a way to make sense of these decisions because they're really – it's a constitutional interpretation that they erred on the side of not being conservative.

00:20:18.160 The conservative justices decided, eh, let's be a little less conservative when interpreting the Constitution.

00:20:23.860 That doesn't make sense to me if you're a constitutionalist because the logic goes both ways.

00:20:29.460 The logic of giving states the rights in this mail-in ballot thing and ignoring the Constitution to say we can have mail-in ballots and then the very next day saying that the Constitution gives you these rights that it doesn't – it's just – there's no sense.

00:20:43.560 It doesn't make sense, Matt.

00:20:44.680 So I have to believe if it came from the House, it might have been different.

00:20:50.060 Well, that's depressing.

00:20:51.520 Yeah, well, you know.

00:20:52.740 But look, it's not depressing.

00:20:54.280 You deal with it head on.

00:20:55.500 You do.

00:20:55.840 And now we can, like Trump said, I do believe there is a legislative approach.

00:20:59.860 Like Matt said, I agree with him.

00:21:01.260 There's things we can do from vetting, from passing new legislation.

00:21:06.060 And like I told you a minute ago, we can also pass new laws that might defy what the Supreme Court just said.

00:21:13.840 But guess what?

00:21:14.320 We go through Congress and let's test it.

00:21:16.040 Let's see if we get a different outcome.

00:21:17.340 I mean, that's the point of legislating and point of the courts.

00:21:19.220 You create new laws and then you let the next branch evaluate whether or not that is consistent with precedent.

00:21:25.100 And look, Dobbs, that overruled decades of bad Roe v. Wade precedent.

00:21:30.680 So there is a chance that another legislature can pass a law that another court might rule differently on.

00:21:37.220 So there is a chance, but unfortunately we have not had a lot of wins recently. 0.93

00:21:42.080 Well, we had the trans, the trans ban. 1.00

00:21:43.880 We did get the trannies banned. 1.00

00:21:45.240 That's good. 1.00

00:21:45.860 The trans ban's a big one. 1.00

00:21:47.180 FEC, the one people aren't talking about, now political parties can now donate a lot more money to candidates, which is good for Republicans. 0.99

00:21:53.260 That was a win.

00:21:54.320 yesterday. Oh, this is the biggest one

00:21:57.040 that nobody's talking about. Hold on, hold on, hold on,

00:21:58.900 hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:22:00.880 Here we go. I don't know if I loved that one, David.

00:22:02.860 Alright, let's go there. I don't know if I loved it.

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00:22:35.980 okay you guys explain this one we need in our politics well i mean david correctly summarized

00:22:42.740 the practical effective decision political parties now are unshackled in the spending that

00:22:48.000 they can do alongside candidates and like a pack like pearson here's my worry about that

00:22:53.500 yeah but here's my worry about that technically it might advantage you know republicans because

00:22:57.800 we have more cash on hand today but do we really want the political parties more gatekeepers like

00:23:04.360 the only way we ever get any good people in is if they sometimes are like get in despite the

00:23:08.460 political establishment wanting them to be there people like brandon gill brandon herrera sometimes

00:23:13.060 yours truly and so i don't like i'm not going to join the david pollack celebration for the fact

00:23:20.260 that the Republican Party became more stronger and the Democratic Party became more stronger,

00:23:25.080 and it's more difficult for independent voices to have parity of communication now because

00:23:30.420 of this decision. Like, of all the things that you think are wrong with American politics today,

00:23:35.520 Pearson, where does the fact that the party infrastructure isn't strong enough rank on

00:23:40.920 your list? Yeah, no, I agree. And without fully understanding the implications of that victory,

00:23:45.600 um in quotes uh i i had that gut feeling that something was amiss you know something was foul

00:23:52.700 in denmark and so i yeah i now that you've laid that out that makes a lot more sense and

00:23:56.660 definitely i would well let me lay out the counter argument and then you can decide okay

00:24:00.160 mr establishment i'm not mr establishment but that being that hurt but let me let me say like

00:24:10.140 this um the the republican party now this is why i think this is a good thing and jd vance wanted

00:24:16.620 this by the way that he was promoting this um this is why i think it's a good thing uh republican

00:24:21.700 the republican party is by and large useless i'm just gonna tell you whether it's h the hoa meetings

00:24:28.860 that nobody shows up to they're boring as heck and nothing ever happens that there's so many 0.57

00:24:33.600 alternative groups grassroots groups all these other organizations that splinter our ability

00:24:38.880 to organize as a party and as a result

00:24:40.900 in these nonpartisan races, the reason why

00:24:42.780 the Democratic Socialists of America are winning

00:24:44.940 all these nonpartisan seats is because

00:24:46.880 they have control over the grassroots

00:24:48.740 and the financial arms of the Democratic Party

00:24:50.800 and they're winning elections.

00:24:52.560 Republicans are so splintered because the GOPs

00:24:54.700 are so poorly organized nationally, I'm not

00:24:56.860 making this up, that if you

00:24:58.840 allow the GOPs

00:25:00.440 to have more influence with their

00:25:02.900 money, what you're doing is

00:25:04.780 weakening the PACs and the splintered

00:25:07.140 groups to some extent

00:25:08.860 and allowing the Republican Party to get stronger,

00:25:11.180 a stronger Republican Party that's more organized

00:25:13.200 and maybe we can bring these outsiders,

00:25:15.840 these ones who want to challenge the establishment,

00:25:18.780 bring them into the fray.

00:25:20.560 I think that's the only way we beat the Democrats.

00:25:22.480 The Democrats are organizing,

00:25:23.600 the socialists are taking over the party,

00:25:25.000 and the more money Republicans have to spend

00:25:27.060 to organize and beat the Democrats,

00:25:29.100 especially the socialists,

00:25:30.340 I see this as a win, but I'm not always right.

00:25:33.740 Matt?

00:25:34.660 David Pollack making a compelling case

00:25:36.720 for centralized control.

00:25:38.260 of the Republican Party

00:25:39.960 of the Republican Party

00:25:43.260 that's all

00:25:43.700 David's like oh you've got all these groups out there

00:25:48.040 they're like saying stuff

00:25:49.280 and our politics would be so much better

00:25:51.860 if instead of all those independent individual voices

00:25:54.380 we had centralized control

00:25:56.320 that is what will win 1.00

00:25:57.720 Hillary Clinton would have loved that 0.96

00:25:59.340 if I ever run

00:26:00.920 if I ever run for Congress

00:26:04.180 I have to have Matt on my side

00:26:05.880 if he's not on my side this is going to be an attack at

00:26:07.880 In 2026, David Pollack said on the Anchorman podcast that he is in favor of centralized power in the Republican Party.

00:26:15.460 And then it pans to me.

00:26:17.100 I knew he was a communist the whole time.

00:26:19.920 I knew it.

00:26:20.600 Well, right, but by the way, don't we want to live in a world where it's not just the Republican Party or the Democratic Party that gets that elevated microphone?

00:26:29.800 I want to live in a world that is politically messy.

00:26:33.620 And, yeah, you do see independent groups, and I want transparency, and I want people to be able to utilize their free speech through campaign speech.

00:26:42.820 But I just, like, I kind of think the two-party system has failed us as a country.

00:26:49.240 And I think that it's not even really a two-party system.

00:26:52.360 You've got, like, bands of tribes that kind of align under these banners.

00:26:56.340 And maybe I'm just – the libertarian streak in me makes me just a little skeptical of the ruling.

00:27:02.820 Though it is something the vice president wanted.

00:27:04.820 It does materially give Republicans an advantage in the way that David described.

00:27:11.140 But I think of the downstream effects, and they worry me.

00:27:14.900 Yeah.

00:27:15.460 Call me old-fashioned. 0.86

00:27:16.960 I think we should burn the whole system down and start over.

00:27:19.220 Well, unfortunately, our side keeps saying that. 0.95

00:27:22.640 Our side keeps saying, let's burn it down.

00:27:25.200 Screw the coalition.

00:27:26.440 I want more Epstein releases.

00:27:28.020 I want UFOs.

00:27:29.100 I want people to go to jail.

00:27:30.400 I'm unhappy.

00:27:31.100 I'm unhappy.

00:27:31.660 I'm unhappy.

00:27:32.200 And then you have Zoran Mandami ushering in democratic socialists into the into the fray while we're sitting here tearing each other apart. This is bad for America. We can put our differences aside until November to say, hey, let's not let the socialists take America. And if they take the Senate, oh, boy, the filibuster will be laughing about the days when there was a filibuster and we'll never have an election again.

00:27:55.640 So, no, I do understand.

00:27:57.420 I love the coalition.

00:27:58.400 I love the diversity of thought.

00:27:59.740 And I think it's great that we're demanding accountability and we're demanding that promises are kept by the people we elect.

00:28:05.240 I think all that's great.

00:28:06.540 But we also have to go, okay, that's cool.

00:28:09.360 Let that aside for a second and understand that the other side is literally lying, like lying about everything, reckless disregard for the truth, and they're winning.

00:28:17.460 And, by the way, they're counting ballots weeks after the election, changing the outcome.

00:28:22.340 Nobody seems to care anymore that Spencer Pratt's not going to be mayor.

00:28:25.240 And Nithya Rahman, who will be mayor of Los Angeles, I'm telling you again and again and again, the Democratic Socialists, will be mayor of Los Angeles.

00:28:33.220 Two of America's biggest cities will be run by socialists.

00:28:36.380 This is why we have to put aside our differences.

00:28:38.400 Epstein will be there next year.

00:28:39.640 D.C. too.

00:28:40.300 What's that?

00:28:41.540 Oh, D.C. too.

00:28:42.200 They're going to take D.C.

00:28:43.480 And in the upcoming elections in Colorado, the Democrat Socialists are ascending.

00:28:49.120 I think that that is the Democratic Party's message.

00:28:52.980 I think that as we go into these midterms, for just the reasons David described, Democrats are going to try to put like the spookiest version of Trump that they can lie about and conjure up on the ballot.

00:29:04.260 And what Republicans have to put on the ballot is socialism.

00:29:08.740 We have to put that on the ballot and show how a rising Democratic Party is just a pathway to socialism and the bad outcomes that that has endured around the world.

00:29:19.100 In a way, you're going to have the Republican Party doing everything possible with whatever spending power they have following this decision, making these Democratic socialists very famous in the suburbs and in the jurisdictions and congressional districts that decide control of power.

00:29:36.860 So that takes us to, I think, our next topic, which is the communists taking over the Democratic Party.

00:29:42.140 Well, before we get to the communists, I don't want to throw you off.

00:29:44.340 There's one really, really important decision that came down yesterday that we haven't talked about yet because all it's getting overshadowed.

00:29:51.800 Trump can finally drain the swamp.

00:29:54.600 The slaughter decision that says Trump can actually get rid of what they called independent heads of agencies, which were never independent.

00:30:00.980 They were always politically appointed, and they always screwed the next president came along, especially if they're Republican.

00:30:06.200 Trump can fire them now without cause.

00:30:08.960 That is a huge deal.

00:30:10.400 it undoes a hundred is that proper english it gets rid of a hundred years of precedent that you

00:30:16.320 needed cause to get rid of these independent heads of agencies no longer that is huge trump can say 0.99

00:30:22.080 i don't like your stupid face and they're gone no longer can the deep state go and sabotage a 0.99

00:30:27.400 republican president for four years until the term is up this is huge and it's not getting the 1.00

00:30:31.720 attention it deserves this is landmark and it will have impacts in draining the swamp if we apply it

00:30:37.680 that way oh let me come in with my typical pessimism yeah i'll believe it when i see it

00:30:41.780 because it's it's great to talk about getting rid of these people but so far it hasn't happened now

00:30:47.600 we maybe have the tools to do it but again i'm gonna wait till i actually see it happen and some

00:30:52.600 commie judge doesn't come in and put the kibosh on it and say well you can't do that we can't now

00:30:56.940 i know i know but they'll find some weird loophole then they'll try and make it happen they'll never

00:31:01.900 let trump do anything that we need to get done so i'm gonna wait and see that's my my position

00:31:06.800 Wait and see. Well, let me add this other potential downstream effect of the decision

00:31:13.660 that David just described. There's this whole group of people in Washington who are like

00:31:19.020 Republicans, but they don't ever want to be like the Matt Gaetz kind of Republicans or,

00:31:24.420 you know, the Freedom Caucus kind of Republicans. They want to be the type of Republicans who are

00:31:30.320 accepted by establishment Democrats. And a lot of those folks, when power changes,

00:31:37.160 kind of stay in the government. Sometimes it's career roles. Sometimes it's extended appointments

00:31:41.780 for terms on various boards and commissions that drive a lot of the policymaking. Well, now,

00:31:47.920 if you're one of those Republicans, you definitely know that the next Democrat administration

00:31:53.680 will fire you there's a hundred percent chance of that now that this decision has come down

00:32:00.040 and so go all out these next two years my message to republican officials go live these two years

00:32:09.560 like they're the last two years where we will ever be able to make policy drive every change

00:32:14.260 we could possibly drive and just assume that the balance of power will swing back and that you will

00:32:20.560 be fired and that you will wish you had one of these days back in power to be able to make the

00:32:26.000 decisions that can improve quality of life but but matt can you honestly see any of these

00:32:30.020 milquetoast republicans driving it like they stole it now that this has passed it's going to be

00:32:35.720 business as usual i'm hoping live like you're dying we just need a few baby live like you're

00:32:40.920 dying and one more and one more case that we have to talk about before we pivot because i know this

00:32:44.580 is a lot of spring court stuff but these are huge landmark decisions um the trans ban the trans ban

00:32:49.660 is so important, and the rationale behind the trans ban is very interesting, because the dissent,

00:32:55.180 in this case, the three liberals, they didn't argue against Title IX. They didn't suggest that

00:32:58.640 you couldn't have separate sports for boys and girls. They were okay with it, actually,

00:33:02.700 completely, unanimously. What they objected to was that protecting, which is so crazy,

00:33:07.980 by the way, this was the argument, was protecting women from men was a substantial enough reason

00:33:13.700 to ban them, because this is something called intermediate scrutiny, when you have, like,

00:33:17.340 gender or you know sexual identity that this kind of stuff it has this middle of the road

00:33:22.160 scrutiny supreme court or constitutional law 101 it's either rational basis meaning you can it's

00:33:27.020 not really a right we can do whatever we want then you have intermediate scrutiny which is like

00:33:30.100 you really need a substantial reason right you need a really good reason and then you have strict

00:33:34.520 scrutiny which is like race and and national origin and stuff where it's almost impossible

00:33:38.540 to pass those laws so this is one of those intermediate scrutiny rules and you just need

00:33:41.860 a substantial basis on an important government interest and here what the majority said is that

00:33:47.120 It's important to protect girls from men that are stronger than them playing in their sports.

00:33:52.320 The liberals said that's not a good enough reason.

00:33:55.620 So that's where we are in this.

00:33:57.820 Any state, and this is an important distinction, the court did not ban trans or men from women's sports.

00:34:03.620 It just allowed states to do it, which is really important because the liberals are out there suggesting that the court did something they didn't.

00:34:08.680 Same thing with Dobbs.

00:34:09.460 The court didn't ban abortion. 1.00

00:34:11.200 They just said it's up to the states if they want to. 0.99

00:34:13.200 Big, big decision on keeping men out of girls' sports. 1.00

00:34:15.680 Now it's going to be up to the state. 1.00

00:34:16.560 If you're in California, your kid's going to get beaten up by a dude.

00:34:19.940 And if you're in Ohio or Florida, you'll have a fair sport.

00:34:23.480 We'll see how that plays out nationally in college, by the way, Matt.

00:34:27.220 Do you have any thoughts on that?

00:34:28.520 Because we compete.

00:34:30.300 I wonder if the Commerce Clause is going to come in with that.

00:34:34.020 Well, I have a question for every man, Pearson Sharp, on this, okay?

00:34:38.440 Because we have complained on this platform and others about a Congress unwilling to codify

00:34:45.220 President Trump's executive orders in permanent law. And Trump's executive order wouldn't leave

00:34:51.380 women that are competing in Illinois or New York or California unprotected. It was a nationwide 0.79

00:34:59.820 ban. Now, there is a bill right now regarding college sports moving through the United States

00:35:07.880 Senate. It deals with all the NIL issues that David and I debated on a previous episode of

00:35:13.360 this podcast so pearson sharp can the save college sports act actually save college sports if it does

00:35:22.280 not nationally codify no men in women's sports pursuant to trump's executive order in this court

00:35:29.480 decision i wouldn't think so i would think you'd need a national application of the rule it has to 0.99

00:35:36.060 apply in all cases in every situation otherwise wherever it's left out the girls are going to be 0.74

00:35:41.060 vulnerable to these predators and that just seems like common sense so would you vote against the

00:35:46.240 save college sports act that does all the nil stuff if if a provision codifying trump's executive

00:35:52.220 order on the subject is not included in the bill rephrase that for me how does that i'm getting

00:35:58.980 like a double negative so you're a senator right you're you're a senator the save college sports

00:36:04.080 act comes up and you say well gosh i want to put on to that bill trump's executive order so it's

00:36:10.120 not just an executive order it's in law and it protects all the women of this country that sounds

00:36:14.520 great and then the majority leader comes to you and says well we're not going to let you do that

00:36:17.700 we're not going to let you put that amendment on the bill i know that this is exactly what they're

00:36:21.320 going to do to bernie marino when he tries this would you then hold your vote would you then say

00:36:25.700 well i'm not going to vote for some safe college sports bill if it doesn't include the provision

00:36:30.620 that protects women i think you might you know this might take a political mind sharper than mine

00:36:37.620 but the way i see it you might look at this as incremental gains you start with the lower win

00:36:45.020 and you work up to the higher win that seems like a reasonable assumption but maybe that's

00:36:49.640 not how it works but you don't get the higher win that's the problem pearson sharp you are nothing

00:36:53.720 if not an advocate for constant incrementalism i mean i would say i would want the whole thing

00:37:00.340 the whole kit and caboodle um right now all the listeners of this podcast are like legitimately

00:37:06.700 wondering if the aliens have taken Pearson Sharp and installed in the anchor's chair tonight

00:37:12.480 an incrementalist, because I've never even heard you use the term incrementalism in a favorable way.

00:37:19.040 I mean, not as a general policy. I'm just looking at if we can get a win. That sounds like a

00:37:23.340 reasonable win. I will admit this has not been a subject that has been high on my radar. It's

00:37:28.820 something that I completely disagree with, and it should have been tackled a long time ago.

00:37:32.380 But of the wins that we've had from the Supreme Court the last couple of days, I would have taken this as a loss and exchanged it for birthright citizenship.

00:37:41.660 Frankly, I feel like that's more of an important issue.

00:37:45.200 I'm glad we got it.

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00:38:54.900 so communists taking over the party yes can we talk about that now yeah is that all right

00:39:03.440 if it's up to you you're incrementally we're incrementally getting good we should we can

00:39:07.780 incrementally move through the topics um so we obviously have uh what james carvel is calling

00:39:15.760 a schism in the democratic party i thought that was interesting um he came on a talk show and said 0.99

00:39:22.000 Lady, I ain't the same party as you, referencing Assemblywoman Daria Liza Avila-Shavala, some stupid commie name. 1.00

00:39:34.280 Carville took an issue with her attack on the American flag and interracial relationships. 0.99

00:39:39.000 He said, I actually do think it's time for Democrats to talk the S-word, schism.

00:39:43.260 He emphasized the party is now under the control of the Democratic Socialists of New York City, calling it insane.

00:39:49.080 and he warned these people do not like democrats not only are they not democrats but they wish

00:39:54.720 democrats poorly matt what do you think is the uh is the party on the verge of a breakup is the

00:40:00.400 is the radical wing going to take over the middle well it's very it's very clear there are a lot more

00:40:07.880 communists and socialists than there are james carville's james carville is like the ghost of

00:40:14.260 Christmas past with the Democratic Party. He helped lead Bill Clinton in the early 90s to

00:40:19.980 this big pivot to the center that even at the time, a lot of people like Jerry Brown and Paul

00:40:25.720 Songus were pushing against. And this is where the energy is in the Democratic Party. People can

00:40:31.280 like that. People cannot like that. But there's not some big mobilized force of door knocking

00:40:37.440 democratic moderates you cannot find them they cannot be produced but they are uh they are

00:40:44.460 motivated around the socialism message and that's what they're offering like we we can uh bemoan it

00:40:50.360 and mock it but their message is now socialism and uh we better have a competing message because

00:40:57.800 there are a lot of young people who don't think capitalism worked for them capitalism might not

00:41:01.940 have helped them get a house or a family or all the other things they wanted in life and there's

00:41:06.360 a reason some societies turn to socialism because it can be seductive so apparently uh to that point

00:41:14.380 there was a big study that was just done um and it said that who you know who were the people who

00:41:21.240 were voting for these socialist communists and apparently young and college educated voters in

00:41:26.440 denser urban areas formed a core block for many candidates aligned with the socialist left

00:41:32.100 The new socialist DSA surge is not mainly a working class revolt.

00:41:36.220 These candidates winning heavily with young, college educated, higher income urban voters, while more lower income, non-college, religious, orthodox Jewish and some Hispanic and outer neighborhood blocs are sticking with more traditional Democrats.

00:41:51.240 So, I mean, the socialist left is being powered, according to this, by the educated urban class and not necessarily by, you know, the poorest downtrodden voters they claim to represent.

00:42:01.000 Well, you say educated.

00:42:02.700 They were indoctrinated.

00:42:03.960 Of course, that's why they believe that. 0.65

00:42:05.200 Well, yeah, all the gender studies majors.

00:42:06.680 Yeah, they went through elementary school, taught how to line up and put their finger over their mouth.

00:42:12.460 Then they went to middle school, and they were told that anything that they did that made them different subjected them to ridicule.

00:42:17.720 Then they went to high school, and they were told that they knew nothing.

00:42:20.280 But they had to go to college to learn what they didn't know.

00:42:22.940 And then as soon as they got to go to college, they were told that everything their parents told them and everything that they understood in common sense didn't apply because of all the injustices done to their friends.

00:42:30.500 And don't you care about your friends?

00:42:31.920 Next thing you know, you raise a little communist.

00:42:33.800 This is why my kids are getting a better education than that.

00:42:37.080 But the second thing is this is how college-educated high-income earners in these urban areas end up thinking like this and voting like this because they've been taught to think like this because they'll never actually suffer the policies in which socialism will bring them because they don't actually live under the umbrella of labor.

00:42:53.800 yet they feel like they have to protect those people

00:42:55.940 because they have the privilege of an education

00:42:57.720 that they borrowed $300,000 that they'll never

00:42:59.860 pay off themselves to have

00:43:01.540 it's the biggest scam and the best part

00:43:03.800 about this and then I'll shut up and Matt brought it up

00:43:05.880 the best part about this is

00:43:07.620 these policies, yes

00:43:09.520 things are unaffordable, capitalism has

00:43:11.720 failed a lot of people but it's the democrat

00:43:13.760 policies that exist in capitalism

00:43:15.800 that has failed people and yet

00:43:17.660 now they've destroyed all of these things

00:43:19.680 through government intervention and economics

00:43:21.700 and then they go, see, it's not working.

00:43:23.900 Well, of course it's not working.

00:43:24.820 You broke it. 0.99

00:43:25.420 It's like taking the damn tires off my car 0.99

00:43:27.040 and then saying, well, see, that's not a good car. 0.99

00:43:29.360 It doesn't work. 1.00

00:43:29.980 Well, you took the damn tires. 1.00

00:43:31.540 So this is the problem. 1.00

00:43:34.300 Indoctrination mixed with democratic sabotage

00:43:36.760 of what would otherwise be a healthy capitalistic economy.

00:43:39.860 That's a soundbite.

00:43:40.680 We should clip that.

00:43:43.640 I think it's interesting,

00:43:46.260 and maybe you guys have an opinion on this.

00:43:48.040 I feel like the the radical left has the voting block of the radical left is eating the center such that if you are a moderate Democrat, if such a thing exists, if you are someone who has semi reasonable opinions on some of these topics, you cannot go out and say that you are against open borders.

00:44:08.720 You can't go out and say, well, I don't think we should pack the Supreme Court.

00:44:13.380 I think that's a bad idea.

00:44:14.980 If you did that, you would be destroyed.

00:44:16.880 You'd lose. You have no chance whatsoever. So you have these rabid little piranha voles in the voting base ensuring that all of their candidates have to take these extremist positions or they'll die in the primaries.

00:44:32.400 that's right and with donors by the way a lot of the donors have uh a purity test on some of

00:44:42.080 these ideological issues and they are into they're enthusiastic about it none of them are really

00:44:48.200 eager to go like give away their own money to the illegal immigrants who are camped out on their

00:44:53.600 street corners but they definitely want to do it with government money well and you know this is 0.92

00:44:57.420 actually a great example you talk about the purity test matt and it's exactly what this is

00:45:00.740 Look what happened to Wiener over the weekend in San Francisco.

00:45:06.060 I mean, he was walking through.

00:45:08.600 I mean, here's a guy who just loves trans people, like almost as much as Tal Rico.

00:45:12.840 I mean, these guys love trans people.

00:45:14.720 They go to this pride event.

00:45:16.380 Somebody needs to check his hard drive. 0.99

00:45:17.820 Yeah, right.

00:45:18.640 They go to a pride event, and because of his stance on Israel, he was literally chased out of the event.

00:45:26.080 This is a Jew, by the way.

00:45:27.360 Wiener's a Jew. 0.79

00:45:28.040 And because he supports Israel, because he wouldn't say free Palestine, they chased him out of the event almost violently, regardless of, you did fine, you have great, you support trans people, you're so good on queer stuff, but you're terrible on Israel. 0.83

00:45:45.040 We could play that clip. 0.86

00:45:46.980 I think you do not belong here.

00:45:49.220 You do not belong here, Scott, anymore.

00:45:52.180 It breaks my heart. 1.00

00:45:53.800 It breaks my heart that someone who wrote legislation for queers is so terrible on Gaza.

00:46:04.160 Scott, do you have anything to say?

00:46:06.440 Do you have anything to say about Gaza?

00:46:10.340 How could you do this to San Francisco?

00:46:14.720 So when are we getting the footage of the gay pride events in Gaza?

00:46:20.280 Exactly.

00:46:21.400 They're planned.

00:46:22.200 They're planned. 0.89

00:46:22.860 The problem is Gaza's in a little bit of a mess right now. 0.95

00:46:26.180 There needs to be a little bit of rebuilding. 0.84

00:46:28.140 And then once that happens, the Pride events are planned.

00:46:32.180 I would just do Pride event big for Iran. 0.99

00:46:35.720 I would be bombing them with rainbow flags. 1.00

00:46:39.400 And congratulations to the gay new Ayatollah. 1.00

00:46:42.700 I would just do it up. 0.99

00:46:44.720 Well, you saw that they scheduled Iran on Pride night in the World Cup. 0.95

00:46:49.920 Amazing. 0.94

00:46:50.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:51.040 That's incredible.

00:46:53.580 So another topic I want.

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00:47:47.340 order so there's a story i think that's really interesting i like following uh i mean i'm a

00:47:52.780 nerd obviously so i follow hollywood and the you know movies that come out but supergirl just came

00:47:58.780 out and that's supposed to be a a big big box office hit you know it's going to be a massive

00:48:07.200 success for all these people that want to watch supergirl and everything but uh turns out it's

00:48:12.440 bombing. It's bombing hard. This was a movie that was supposed to appeal to the masses,

00:48:19.180 had a $200 million budget. That's at least, probably higher. And its opening weekend was

00:48:26.320 revised down from, I think like 70 million initially down to like 60, then to 50. And it

00:48:30.960 couldn't even make 50 on its opening weekend. It got down to $37 million on its opening weekend.

00:48:36.180 So they're thinking it's going to probably lose at least a hundred million dollars.

00:48:40.000 And this is a movie that I think was made for a time period that doesn't exist anymore.

00:48:44.840 I'm hoping it doesn't exist. 1.00

00:48:46.180 Where radical feminism and all this kind of stuff was the mainstay. 1.00

00:48:50.120 Because you have the main actress in previews coming out and saying, 0.83

00:48:55.160 you know, I think, you know, maybe Supergirl is a gay icon. 0.98

00:48:58.120 Maybe she could be gay. 0.95

00:48:59.060 I don't know. 1.00

00:49:00.000 And, you know, if you don't like this, then you're a racist, disgusting, sexist pig. 1.00

00:49:04.140 And we don't need men to watch this movie. 1.00

00:49:06.020 Wait, does Supergirl do gay stuff in the movie? 1.00

00:49:08.300 No. 0.86

00:49:09.040 No, no, she doesn't. 0.50

00:49:09.980 This is just the actress coming out and saying this on the red carpet. 0.81

00:49:13.820 She's just saying this on the red carpet.

00:49:15.660 You know, someone asked her, is Supergirl gay?

00:49:16.980 And she's like, well, I don't know. 0.99

00:49:18.120 Maybe she is, you know.

00:49:19.640 Maybe she goes both ways.

00:49:20.920 I don't know.

00:49:21.800 And it's like just this blatant Hollywood.

00:49:24.760 And that, by the way, by the way, them saying Supergirl might have gone both ways didn't lead to more attendance in the movies?

00:49:32.960 Is that what you're reporting?

00:49:34.840 And hold on.

00:49:36.020 Do you think Supergirl would have done better at the box office if she didn't have to compete against the male movies that were in the box office? 1.00

00:49:45.360 No, because there's a lot of precedence that women heroes do fine. 1.00

00:49:50.680 Wonder Woman was a smash hit. 0.99

00:49:53.100 The thing is, men go to these movies. 1.00

00:49:56.480 Women don't. 1.00

00:49:57.320 Women don't turn out for this stuff. 1.00

00:49:58.780 Women are not going to see Supergirl. 1.00

00:50:00.520 Men are. 1.00

00:50:01.300 And we don't care if it's a woman. 0.80

00:50:02.660 We only care if she's cool, she has cool powers, and she doesn't hate men just for being men. 0.95

00:50:08.840 That's it.

00:50:09.380 That's a pretty low bar to set. 0.98

00:50:11.820 Well, if it's a gender-reliant movie. 0.97

00:50:14.360 That was a good movie. 0.97

00:50:16.440 The cool thing about this anyways, the point of all of this is that you now have a movie like The Backrooms,

00:50:22.860 this YouTube horror movie that came out on a $10 million budget that's made $330 million.

00:50:29.400 It's the biggest movie for A24 in their history.

00:50:32.660 And meanwhile, Star Wars, Mandalorian Grogu had a 200 plus million dollar budget and they've just hit $330 million at the box office.

00:50:41.560 So, you know, I think it's incredible that we're seeing this turnaround.

00:50:45.140 And now you have Citizen Vigilante.

00:50:47.400 So I think we're seeing independent films start to return and the mainstream audience rejecting this propaganda slop that we've been fed for the last decade.

00:50:58.660 I think it really relates.

00:50:59.940 Wait, Citizen Vigilante wasn't a documentary about your life?

00:51:04.520 Not yet.

00:51:06.060 Banned in the UK.

00:51:08.060 So much for your warm pints of London pride and bangers and mash. 0.88

00:51:13.700 But the interesting thing is I think it has to do with the gender has to be related to the story.

00:51:19.440 Like here, Supergirl is clearly a downgrade from Superman. 0.87

00:51:23.020 But if they made her black, maybe it would have done better. 1.00

00:51:26.080 Matt? 0.99

00:51:26.520 i i i cannot imagine where we go on that regression does she have to be like a black 1.00

00:51:35.880 lesbian left-handed uh polyamorous you know like is that do the superpowers have to get 1.00

00:51:45.760 continually weirder and weirder i i don't know but quite mercifully we're at the end of our time 0.63

00:51:51.760 And we don't have to find out.

00:51:52.920 Chris, thank you so much for hosting for us.

00:51:55.760 I love kicking it around with you guys.

00:51:59.020 Absolutely.

00:51:59.660 And I will bring back all the good scoops from D.C.

00:52:02.420 And I will be watching David Pollack at a new time.

00:52:05.600 Can we give a little programming note about where folks can watch David Pollack Prime Time?

00:52:10.620 Yeah, so this is the last week you can watch me at 7 p.m.

00:52:14.640 So if you're an early-to-bed person, start getting your sleep training in now because David Pollack Primetime is moving to 10 p.m. Eastern.

00:52:23.380 That's right, 10 p.m. Eastern to watch David Pollack Primetime following the great Matt Gaetz.

00:52:29.040 I go right after him, so he gets everybody warmed up, and I'm like, all right, let me close the show.

00:52:33.760 So you can't chase the audience off, Matt.

00:52:35.180 You have to keep them, so that way they stick around for me.

00:52:38.600 I am so excited to hand off to you.

00:52:40.620 I'm excited for our colleague Chanel Rian.

00:52:42.820 She is going to 7 o'clock. 1.00

00:52:44.000 She's going to kill it there.

00:52:45.380 An amazing journalist who represented our network so well in the White House briefing room.

00:52:50.540 You'll watch Chanel at 7, Dan Ball at 8, the MacGate Show at 9, David Pollack primetime at 10 o'clock.

00:52:57.140 It is the very best primetime lineup in all of television.

00:53:00.100 I agree. I agree with that.

00:53:01.500 It's going to be a lot of fun, Matt.

00:53:02.320 I'm excited to be able to bounce off.

00:53:04.620 We talk about a lot of different topics, but from different – same topics, different angles.

00:53:08.900 And so the viewers will definitely get the full spectrum of an issue from watching your show and then my show because they'll get different perspectives of a lot of the issues of the day.

00:53:17.180 So I think it's a really fantastic duo.

00:53:19.880 Real America, The Matt Gaetz Show, David Pollack, Primetime.

00:53:23.040 I've got you guys surrounded.

00:53:24.360 Correct.

00:53:25.020 And that does it for this week.

00:53:26.560 Thank you for watching The Anchorman, and we will see you later.

00:53:29.080 Thanks for having me.

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - July 02, 2026

The Anchormen Show EP 141 - Bench Pressed

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