The Anchormen Show Episode 71 - Freedom Angels w⧸ Denise Aguilar and Thornton
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Summary
Tara Thornton, Denise Aguilar and Denise Aguilar join me in this episode as we discuss the origins of The Freedom Angels and how they became the Freedom Angels. They share their origin stories, how they got into activism on the right, and what got them involved in the anti-Vaxxer movement.
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now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and dan ball
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welcome back to the anchorman show i'm matt gates host of the matt gates show on one american news
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you can watch that program on our weeknights nine o'clock eastern six pacific we talk about
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everything going on in the news politics sports and here we address the human condition and the
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state of the movement and i am joined by two incredible ladies moms activists just incredible
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folks the freedom angels tara thornton and denise aguilar uh thank you so much for joining me here
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and i want to take just a moment you've become towering figures in california activism on the
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right as people have become more awakened to the conditions that gavin newsom has visited on the
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golden state so we're going to go over the full indictment of that agenda what it means going
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forward this incredible election that we have coming up in a few days here in california but
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really the essence of this episode what i want to get to is is what starts that fire in a duo of moms
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to say i'm actually gonna roll up my sleeves and get involved in organizing in legislation i'm gonna
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show up for candidates who i think will fight for me i'm gonna encourage people going door to door
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uh even in a place like this where at times the victories are scant and the opposition is incredibly
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powerful so i'd love to have you both just kind of share your origin story uh where you're from how
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you grew up and what led you to become the freedom angels absolutely so i was i'm from stockton california
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i never left my area um i was actually a gang member for my most of my life until 2012 and in
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2015 um california decided it wanted to practice medicine and remove uh philosophical and religious
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belief exemptions for children for vaccines k through 12 public and private school and at that
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time i actually vaccinated my kids i didn't know anything about the vaccine movement i actually worked
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in a hospital so i didn't know anything about this all i knew was that there should be no type of
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medical mandates and our government should not be telling us what we have to do in order to participate
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in something that we pay for through our tax dollars and we were just talking before we came on air about
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covid becoming the point of awakening for so many americans that before covid there was this belief that
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the vaccines were good for us and that the people who question them there must be something wrong with
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those folks but what gang were you a member of uh well i was uh what they called northenius um i got
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jumped in when i was 12 years old and just in and out of the system i never even thought about politics
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until i met my husband who learned about politics while he was in prison so we were both no idea what
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this even meant so prison politics is what led you to be an anti-vaxxer yes no and no it really yeah it
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really is because you know when you're when your back's up against a wall you and there's nowhere
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to go all you have to do is move forward and say wait a minute this isn't right right like if there's
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something wrong i am not scared obviously to say something and i think a lot of people got really
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scared to say like hey we need to start talking about this right because then you're titled you're
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anti-vaxxers but i think through covid people saw the lies of the pharmaceutical companies and how
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they were buying their way through our elected representatives and it was just it was so angering
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to me i'm like i'm not going to just sit there and not do anything about it so i engaged i started
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learning about politics i started talking to legislators and it just kind of snowballed from
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there awesome well tara was it the vaccine issue as well that got you engaged and activated
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actually originally i started on environmental and criminal justice issues when i was a teenager i'm from
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new hampshire i moved to california when i was 20 and i ran far left extremist um environmental and
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social justice groups i ran it was a big part of earth first and i just you know ended up having
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a very alternative lifestyle i lived off grid i was into survivalism um and and homeschooling early
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on and i always knew that i was going to make sure that i kept all the toxins out of my life and any
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children i have so when my child was born over 15 years ago uh he was unvaxxed because i already knew
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and i knew not to i this is important to say i knew not to use to give him vaccines because i knew of
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the risks from the mothers who had given their children shots and they were severely injured
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and it was because of those moms it was these early um online boards mothering and yahoo where these
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moms were desperately trying to find out how to recover their kids and it was through that that i
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realized like the bigger picture so for me i you know was i had left kind of the leftist activism
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stuff in my early 20s and then as i became a mom um with my child uh he was five in 2015 when california
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brought the bill called sb-277 this is senator richard pan who's trying to grab one of those seats
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that newsom's redistrict trying to redistrict with prop 50 and this was the shot heard around the world on
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what everyone came to see in covid it started in 2015 in california with sb-277 they removed
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all exemptions for shots for school for kids and it was that that brought me in in a way that
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nothing had ever moved me before it was my kid they came after my kid and i don't co-parent with
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the government and i certainly drew a line around our kids their sacred ground you go after them we're
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going to fight you and so that's what brought us in on this in 2015 when you were an organizer on the
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political left for environmental and social justice causes who who were some of your political heroes
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the people you looked up to i really had such a i did not really understand you know at that time
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i was fighting corporate interests and the at the time the democrats i thought were the good guys on it
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i didn't really understand globalism this was in the 80s um and early 90s i didn't understand the
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globalists like i do in fact it was the vaccine issue in 2015 that really cracked open when you
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start to fight to protect kids and against these public health control measures it just rips all
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the veils down and you really see this evil globalist agenda that has all of us against the wall that is
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trying to commoditize everybody so people are going to watch this program they're going to say what was it
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that brought an environmental social justice activist together with a former gang member and
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prisoner to advocate for all these policy changes in california what tell me the story of how the two
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of you teamed up it it was in 2019 when we had sb276 again this was going to remove all functional
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exemptions the vaccine issue was the issue for us at the time and we were you know in hearings we were
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trying to figure out how we were going to push against these politicians because they weren't
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talking to us they would run away from us it was such a bad experience for us and there was just one
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moment that it passed the bill passed committee and i was so upset because i share custody of my middle
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son and i knew at that moment i wouldn't be able to protect him anymore because i don't have i
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wouldn't have the ability to shield him from these decisions anymore i was sobbing on the floor of the
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capital tara came over to me and we just met just and it was just like this capturing of souls almost
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we were like we're on the same mission and we didn't know anything about each other all we knew
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was that our kids were at the front lines of this fight right they our children are always the ones on
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the front line whether it be in public school whether it be medical mandates that is what brought us
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together and i think for a lot of people that is a common ground we talked to a lot of people on
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different different demographics democrat republican all all types of people and the one thing that
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we have common ground on is children should be protected at all cost and so for me my life was
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always about fighting my own community like a dummy i fell into the trap of you know this is where i needed
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to be i needed to be a gang member i need to sell drugs i need to do all these things and the world of
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politics actually pretty much saved my life i never thought i would actually live to this age
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i missed so many different experiences as a young kid because this was the path of my life and so when
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we engaged in politics we were like we have one common mission and that is to protect the children
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of california and of the world because this is a global issue this isn't just a california issue
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we saw that during covid it was vaccine mandates if you couldn't you know if you didn't get vaccinated
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you couldn't move around society you couldn't go to work you couldn't do the things california
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actually tried to introduce a bill that would require you to show your qr code that you've been
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vaccinated so this this is what we we knew we know that we love our state we know that we would do
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anything for our children and so the breaking point for me was i made a decision i'm going to leave this
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lifestyle and i'm going to completely go into politics and i'm going to learn how to do this and we're
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going to do this together yeah we jump you in too i guess yeah i know in a way by putting you into
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these positions with uh with legislators and lawmakers the biggest gangsters out there and and there really
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was before covid a uh uh kind of a scarlet letter around parents who questioned vaccine orthodoxy
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uh were there any ever any moments when you met with leaders in medicine or in government where you
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where you just really felt like that they were uh degrading even reasonable questions and opinions
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and perspectives that you were bringing to them oh all the time um that was what's the worst meeting
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you had well actually you know what i'm just going to tell you something that no one knows so back in
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2017 before we formed freedom angels i was uh one of 12 people at the highest meetings we'd ever had
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in the administration trump one administration and it was with jason jason chaffetz when he was head of the
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government oversight research committee and different people were talking about the cdc whistleblower the
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86 act fauci so this is march of 2017 talking about fauci and the coming plandemic um all the the injury
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rates all the different things and my part was speaking on vaccine mandates at the state and the
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federal government and i was trying to tell chaffetz that not only were they after our kids but they
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were looking for a global lockdown and they were going to go after adults and try to require us for
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participation in society work travel everything he actually laughed at me it was like they will
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never do that i'm like it is coming i would have laughed at you too i know everyone would have and
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they vilified us for a reason i will tell you though you can't shame a mom who is out to protect her
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kid so you know they tried and they did a good job for a long time making it taboo to be an anti-vaxxer
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or to question vaccines but i know that when we formed freedom angels in 2019 when we we were running
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legislative strategy we were just losing like you said no one would take you seriously you
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literally hand them all the facts everything you show them no double blind placebo safety testing you
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show them no liability show injury you show them the human suffering and they're like yeah sorry we're
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don't you know they just literally disregard it so the final day of legislative session we had no
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other play it was a suspense a suspense file hearing it's the last hearing and they have to get all
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two thousand bills out and it's kind of like an auction they just run it off and we had no you
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don't get to interface so as opposition we didn't have a way to interface but we made the decision to
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start peaceful civil disobedience because we knew we were at the point we'd done everything for years
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we've worked every legislative angle and we're like we have to show them this is a real human and civil
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rights issue and that newsom is going to be the next george wallace if he passes sb276 and blocks
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our kids from school for for having no exemptions because it's that serious this is human and civil
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rights these are our kids and we're not going to stand down and he's on the wrong side of history
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we had you know made man's were like you are going to crawl on the backs of the injured and the children
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of this state to get to be president to try to be president so we stood up on chairs in the final
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hearing and we stood in a red white and blue dress american flag upside down which is a sign for nation
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in distress and we said you have not represented california for all these are our kids we're not
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going away what did they do to you well they we thought they were going to arrest us well you're
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familiar with that you should like arrest us it's okay yeah we're a nobel state baby going back to
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prison like your policies created nobel state take me yeah well and and um that must be frustrating
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when you come to these meetings with seriousness and passion and drive and the policymakers that
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you're speaking with don't don't seem to care that must feel demoralizing and the exact opposite
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of that must have been how you felt when rfk jr was selected hhs secretary the two of you were very
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familiar with his work well before he became the political sensation that he is today tell us about
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the rfk jr you know and and what you think he's bringing to this really important work we are so
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thankful that he has never backed down from this conversation in this fight you know we worked with
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him at the capitol talking to legislators it was so hard just to get the legislators to meet with him
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and what he's done now is what he promised us that he would do and that is really start reforming
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the system we saw that with asip when he changed out the members every single member who tries to
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push these vaccines has money invested so much self-dealing it's so much self-dealing over the
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decisions about what goes into the bodies of young children with their cells divided yeah like it like
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it's incredible that we would question all of these different vaccines all of the doses the mandates
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like we're the crazy ones you know when we were fighting 276 and we were inside the capitol we had our
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kids lined up tons of kids we had thousands of people at the capitol and we had staffers pass by
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our kids and spit on them they hated us it wasn't even that they didn't take us seriously it was they
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hated us and they showed it they had no problem showing that they hated us we never um what do you
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tell a child in that circumstance well thankfully wasn't my kid but you know we probably didn't cut
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it but i mean a child doesn't understand they don't understand that and you know when i would
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take my kid with me to the capitol he would always ask like why why don't they want to talk to us like
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why why do they treat you like that and in all of the the things that we've done i think for my kid
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we've modeled what it looks like to be persistent and even if they don't take you seriously i take me
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seriously and what we're talking about is about the health of our children their well-being their future
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their their ability to go into schools even though we don't support public schools for our kids
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there's other kids that are there yeah yeah nobody wants public schools to be bad right you just have
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to be a mean person we want them to be good even if it's not the selection that's right for everyone
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and you shouldn't bar people at the schoolhouse gate because of a decision they've made regarding
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their own medical freedom and that was never about the safety of the children at that school that was
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about the profitability of pharmaceutical companies and it was about control it was about
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showing that they could have control at that early stage and i think tara put it beautifully that that
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was really a stepping stone to the other features of the globalist agenda that they wanted to indoctrinate
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from literally a biomedical standpoint um and and when all this is going on uh you know did you did you
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start to see the light come on with everyone else during covid where you're like we've been here we've
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been warning you all about this we knew we knew that when if people knew what was going on they're on
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our side and covid did lift definitely rip the veil off for people i know that you know with our kids
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one of the things we've taught them when 2019 when we stood on those chairs we'll go back for a second
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and say i know it was true for both of us when you stand up for what you believe in against being
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vilified it was the evil anti-vaxxers i knew for me in that moment no one could touch me they couldn't
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silence me they couldn't shame me they could only arrest me that's all they had and and in that i feel
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so blessed that i get to like walk around knowing what that feels like and it gave us the ability for
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when covid came like we ran all the lockdowns um at the california capital because we knew how important
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it was to get out ahead as fast as possible to try to say no this is an authoritarian move to take
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control of humanity and when we went out um gosh it was may 1st of 2020 was our second lockdown at
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the california capital protest and we had 10 000 people there and newsom set it up as a trap for us
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with 650 chp officers and halfway through it was peaceful it was like a july 4th party he made the call
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to send everybody out and arrest the californians out there so they arrested 32 of us and you know
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it was but it was that it was fighting for our kids and being the evil anti-vaxxers that allowed us
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to have the courage to stand up in that moment when the whole world was still scared on may 1
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and say you're wait isn't newsom warning the rest of the country about authoritarianism monarchies and
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kings you're saying 30 dozens of people got arrested for a a peaceful protest over medical
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freedom yes 32 of us now there was he had to drop the charges eventually because you're here with me
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not not not in the clink and she's a repeat offender so i figured i figured you know you'd still be there
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but uh but but i'm glad they dropped it but do you think it was intimidation though
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the only reason he dropped it was because of george floyd protest they let everybody three weeks later
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destroy the capital and you know riot so they had no choice but you know it was a very easy decision
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to stand there because this is the the capital the california capital is your state's highest public
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town square where your 1a right is most fervently protected so it's very simple when they told us to
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move or get arrested it was you know to support 1a we just didn't move and there you go in that you
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you know you uh you mentioned the immunities that these vaccine companies have and this is what got
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me when all of this was hitting the country and you know democrats wanted big outlays of money and
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the administration was trying to not go into global economic meltdown the one thing mitch mcconnell and
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a bunch of the corporate senate republicans wanted for the covid vaccine was immunity from prosecution
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and i never got that because we have courts they exist where if someone is injured by something
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they can seek redress and have that dispute adjudicated and their standards of care and
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there's case law and precedent but they wanted a special lane of justice that actually was a bridge
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to nowhere for anyone who was injured by the vaccine uh i believe that republicans who supported that
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and demanded that should feel great shame in these moments they should feel shame you know
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the 1986 act gave pharmaceutical companies shield of liability right so there's like a whole special
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court with a special masters where the person who got injured has to prove that they are the ones who
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got injured it's a you know it's a circus what gavin has actually done here in california is he pushed
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through one of the most extreme pieces of legislation ab144 now this creates california's own vaccine
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panel so we have a federal vaccine panel now we have california's vaccine panel i've been
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every one of them has their pronouns in their email signature right and he also extended immunity
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to the people who have who like host vaccine clinics the schools because the schools were vaccinating
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children against covid without parental consent no oh yeah there's lawsuits on it so now it looks like
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gavin is shielding corporations and billionaires while throwing people of california under the bus and
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creating this shield of liability for pharmaceutical companies the people who host the vaccine clinics
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and possibly putting on other vaccines like the covid shot which he really wanted to do including the
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hpv shot so what we're seeing with gavin is a complete pharmaceutical shield at this point
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and the people do you think the pharmaceutical companies will support him when he runs for president
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oh they already are supporting him yeah ab144 he did he ran that through on a trailer bill just at the
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same time that they were doing the three-day push to shove prop 50 onto the ballot against you know
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without the voters say of getting it actually put on through legislation um ab144 is a really big deal
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it's like denise said there's a 1986 act federally which gave immunity protections and thank god we have
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rfk jr in there because he burns for justice for our children and humanity he knows exactly
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all the plays that they have he knows how to untangle this thing i hope everyone needs to free him up
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and let him untangle the corporate control and actually make america healthy again but as far as
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newsom he knows exactly what he's doing with ab144 he has now made a new form of immunity just in the
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it goes into effect in january in california to shield these private non-profits this has never been done
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before from any lawsuits for any harm caused from vaccine clinics and this is a real big play because
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like denise said this is where the lawsuits have been at because we couldn't get at the lawsuits on
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the covid shots because they were given immunity and so they were going after the the um the violation
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at the school levels where they went against informed consent of the parents and gave kids the shot
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and newsom just gave them a clean slate this is a really big deal yeah that is that is unreal and
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when i go into a cvs or a walgreens and i see people getting the covid shot wearing three masks
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i think to myself how sad that must be and i almost pity them you know and in a weird way
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i worry about their families their children are they pushing this uh vaccine religion on on others
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have you ever found anything successful at getting through to people who might be of sound mind but
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simply haven't had access to the type of information you've had access to i think we've had a lot of
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conversations with people who even recently are starting to see the move of the pharmaceutical
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companies um what people are now starting to realize is that there's so much money that's pushed
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between the pharmaceutical industries and our elected representatives so much i mean it's incredible
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and so we have these conversations with we work with all kinds of different groups democrat republican
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i mean it doesn't matter we want to have those conversations with people because we do have
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those conversations that are like yeah i was like you know double boosted and i used to wear a mask
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and now i see what's going on so people are paying attention covid really changed the whole dynamic of how
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people thought about vaccines i think there are people who are vaccine injured who don't even know
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that they're vaccine injured and they have blood clots or myocarditis or some other presentation of a side
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effect and it doesn't even register that that is something that really has followed a lot of this
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excessive vaccine taking uh that we've seen following covid um you know the uh the way that this
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dovetails with the broader parental rights movement is something i want to explore because
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and we saw in louden county virginia it was a lot of the critical race theory in some places
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the radical gender ideology like help our viewers understand the confluence of this parents rights
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movement and how these things work together yeah i mean i can tell you when we we train people the
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california capital will bring in the grassroots we have district to capital networks and we welcome
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people to come with us and one of the things that we say when we take them into the offices offices of
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the legislators is don't put anyone in here in a box we are here to protect children families and
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freedom and we are going to defend them and fight you in any place that we need to and that's where you
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can see issues like the critical race theory or the transgender issue or the the grooming and the
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sexualization of children that comes into play in that avenue so or you know whether it's where
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any any there's everything on the table at california we'll we'll fight 10 different bills in a year
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because they're all tied together if you're fighting to protect kids families and freedom
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then you know you have to fight all of them and so we've been very active over the last few years
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we've been also working to get the men out of the women's prisons and we have so many uh we just
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learned this at a at a activist function we were at recently there are thousands of men in women's
00:25:34.560
prison and and california and they're getting a lot of the women in those prisons pregnant yeah oh
00:25:39.820
yeah they have plan b pills they've had pregnancies and lost babies and you know the the worst thing
00:25:45.780
about it all i'm gonna say this is that the legislators all know about it now and they want to fix it but
00:25:51.420
the the leadership which is gavin newsom and and people like mike mcguire senate president who's also
00:25:58.060
trying to get one of those gerrymandered congressional seats they have blocked even their democrat
00:26:03.660
counterparts in the legislature from actually getting the men out of the women's prisons because
00:26:08.540
they for two years now they have blocked what we could easily pass this is the frontier the frontiers
00:26:14.660
of equality now is like having to sit by as men in women's prisons rape the women yeah like that's
00:26:20.900
the frontiers of equality and it's nuts i worry about the effects of this on humanity on on the vaccine i feel
00:26:27.340
like for a lot of our lives in the united states in particular humanity has been subjected to a
00:26:34.220
biological war waged against us and part of it's the vaccines part of it is the the chemical exposure
00:26:41.200
that we have there are real environmental concerns that we as an america first movement ought to take a
00:26:48.640
strong look at but like do you worry about your children and who they're going to meet and are they
00:26:54.580
going to have the opportunity for big families when we've had to endure all this i worry about that
00:26:59.080
every single day i have one homeschool kid and i have one kid in public school i worry every day about
00:27:06.040
my kid in public school because he's captured he's captured between the teachers who are teaching him
00:27:11.100
you know banned books which include how to get on apps like grinder and how to upload your picture
00:27:17.580
these books actually tell children how to meet strangers online between the social media the
00:27:23.400
schools the policies and the legislation they have put in such a wedge between parents and children
00:27:29.700
it's really awful to experience especially if you're you have an extra vulnerable child like i do
00:27:35.340
my son who i homeschool we have a whole different world we he's not even he doesn't even understand
00:27:41.160
what's going on in public school he understands legislation because he goes to the capital with us
00:27:45.820
but we have we're building out the world we want for our children and that means we homeschool that
00:27:51.480
means that we have the group of friends that we really do want to bring into our lives that we
00:27:55.740
trust that means that my son understands civics he's 11 and he knows what would you say if he brought
00:28:02.840
home a vaxxed girlfriend i'm so excited when we get our merriweather farm shipments and you get a
00:28:09.140
beautiful piece of ribeye look look at that marbling now i take it out of the package let it get down to
00:28:14.640
room temperature all i've got on here is a little salt a little pepper and then a little avocado oil
00:28:19.560
and then i've had my pan preheating with a little oil
00:28:22.660
head to merriweatherfarms.com and enter promo code matt g for 15 off your first order he would never
00:28:36.280
he actually he wouldn't this is actually a conversation he has with me he's like what am i
00:28:40.300
going to do how am i going to find a wife if they've have been vaccinated with the covid shot
00:28:44.380
because he knows he knows that that shot was just so detrimental to people we were so lied to about
00:28:49.660
that we were so people were so brainwashed to think that this shot was healthy and it was safe and it
00:28:56.260
was effective and they they used isolation they used fear this is what they do in prison they isolate
00:29:02.700
you until you comply and so when they did that out here people just thought it was you know
00:29:08.420
regular medical procedure than they didn't think they were lied to my son who's 11 knows everything
00:29:14.780
about this movement about this shot because it's our responsibility as parents to introduce them to
00:29:20.700
these things so that way they're ready for when they're older because the policies that get introduced
00:29:25.220
now they don't affect me they're going to affect him and they're going to affect his children so he's
00:29:30.100
very much worried about being able to find a wife that is not vaccinated yeah is that going to be
00:29:34.900
like a new dating thing for the zoomers you have to ask your uh first date everyone should be really
00:29:40.240
concerned about the mrna platform technology this is something that humanity needs to worry about we
00:29:45.760
you know traditional vaccines also have their problems they have risks they have toxins they alter
00:29:51.400
the immune system but we've got two you know two different and difficult situations with both of
00:29:57.400
them and the mrna is i mean this is part of the transhumanist agenda to alter your genetic code to
00:30:04.300
to cut you know man from god and it's it was actually i actually had a conversation with a
00:30:11.660
well-known transhumanist the week before we started freedom angels and it was him in 2019 telling me
00:30:16.780
that everything was about to change and he told me essentially everything about mrna platform technology
00:30:22.940
and ai at using ai to advance this that caused me to be like we have got to go faster and harder and
00:30:31.920
that's when we started civil disobedience i think the most important combos we can have is with our
00:30:37.080
kids is to let them know the truth of the world and with each other like you said there's people out
00:30:42.960
there that don't realize they're injured so the more like do not allow yourself to be silenced or
00:30:47.980
shamed have the conversations just keep having honest gentle conversations with everyone you know
00:30:53.480
i don't spend time fighting on social media just have it in real life like take stuff into the real
00:30:59.140
world on the ground that's how we build the world we want from the ground up we're also really big
00:31:04.240
proponents of food freedom whether it's clean food but also local food like supporting the farmers and
00:31:09.820
ranchers one of the things that i'm most excited about right now is last week um trump brock rollins
00:31:15.900
bobby um all they met with a couple of ranchers i know one of them from nevada another one and these
00:31:22.240
guys are the real deal these are the producers on the ground that aren't supporting mrna that want
00:31:28.200
you know county of like or country of origin they want to have local control of food because they
00:31:34.400
know that not only is our health critical um on that issue but also the control of humanity so
00:31:39.760
it was one of the best things i saw actually one of the most exciting things that's happening right now
00:31:44.900
is that trump brock rollins bobby kennedy they're meeting with the actual ranchers not the big lobby
00:31:50.500
for cattle they're meeting with the right people and if they follow those plans then humanity has one of
00:31:55.580
the greatest hopes that we could have is that we got the right people moving the right strategy for
00:31:59.920
it so i'm excited about that it's kind of the one thing europe has right yeah they appreciate eating
00:32:05.480
local they they have that labeling the transparency and people can eat pizza in italy all the time and
00:32:12.620
not gain weight because you know it's it's a pure ingredient structure it's simpler and uh you don't
00:32:18.200
have all the stabilizers that i think have really hurt our country that we're allowed in and there's a part
00:32:22.860
of kennedy's strategy that i i like which is that it is not reliant on passing legislation he gets
00:32:29.800
these stakeholders in a room and says well would you like to take these dyes out of your food or do you
00:32:36.220
want me to pursue a regulatory path would you like to voluntarily agree to not have these mandates or do
00:32:42.040
you want to see the force and power of the federal government and he's getting some of these corporate
00:32:48.680
entities to do the right thing when all other options have been exhausted uh you have a really
00:32:54.180
interesting domino theory about california because we'll have viewers around the country who will watch
00:33:00.000
this program and say these these are wonderful moms they're inspiring in their activism but what are
00:33:05.240
they still doing in california don't they understand that this place has lost uh is lost ground in the
00:33:12.660
invasion you were uh red state reagan nixon pete wilson was elected statewide here and then you did
00:33:22.280
open borders and amnesty you allowed your yourself to be invaded you have no real um control over the
00:33:28.120
voting which means that you are susceptible to legal votes being diluted and you really ought to pack up
00:33:34.460
and go to nevada or florida or texas and enjoy low taxes and and friendly folks what what are you still
00:33:41.840
doing here oh yeah we always say don't tell us to leave california it's our terrain strategy we're
00:33:46.660
like look we have to stay and fight not only because california is ground zero but if we save
00:33:51.700
california then we save the nation and we save the nation we save western civilization but also because
00:33:57.820
you've got to fight the ground that you're on if we're in a global battle there's no one that is immune
00:34:03.920
from this whether you're in the reddest county in the reddest state or in deep blue california you're
00:34:10.020
fighting the same evil agenda it's just easier you're on better terrain in a deep red deep county
00:34:16.780
or state to be able to work from the ground up locally your school boards your city councils your
00:34:22.860
county level this and then the state and federal from there to lock in protections for kids family and
00:34:28.500
freedom it's yes it's harder here in california but we have had victories that nobody even knows about
00:34:34.400
we defeated we defeated merc in the california in 2023 they tried to mandate the hpv shot
00:34:41.360
for all kids k through 12 in college without exemption and we were able through the grassroots
00:34:47.540
action of californians across the state in our district of capital networks to force them to remove
00:34:52.460
that part of the mandate that would have been that is a holy grail for merc that's a billion dollars a
00:34:57.340
year because it's a captured market more than one almost one-tenth of the u.s population
00:35:00.840
with no way out and they have you're compelled to go to school it's you know compulsory education
00:35:06.340
and then also for college it's not you know you would have it as well so you can actually win even
00:35:13.880
on bad ground and one of the things i say is people californians get a bad rap deservedly for some
00:35:19.460
things but the it's really just the extremists who run california like gavin newsom like these guys
00:35:24.720
that want to take those congressional seats that they're trying to gerrymander with prop 50 real californians
00:35:29.580
when you tell them when they start to actually pay attention to civics and see what's going on
00:35:34.680
they're all on the same side we all want the same things and if you are out in any other state
00:35:39.120
and you definitely don't want the californians that are there voting blue no matter who but you find the
00:35:44.800
refugees from california that have fought because when you've been against the wall no one fights
00:35:49.060
harder you find them those are your riders and they will help you turn your red states like more red and
00:35:54.320
lock and protection it is true that when you find the deep blue state and deep blue jurisdiction
00:35:59.380
republicans there is a special way that fire burns i've seen it in new york i've seen it in illinois i've
00:36:05.740
seen it in california where you've been called every name under the book you you have faced evil you have
00:36:11.660
faced uh ostracizing features of shunning from the left and and even kind of polite society at times
00:36:19.140
but you know if you were to have that type of transformation in florida what's the type of
00:36:24.320
leader who could who could do it denise like if what's the archetype of somebody that could that
00:36:29.280
could save california gosh i think you people who engage the way that i'm going to say the way that
00:36:36.680
we engage that we've made this our life to really understand politics and to be engaged at a local
00:36:43.260
level everyone wants to flip california red but that's not really realistic what we can do is
00:36:48.780
engage locally one of the things that we train so i'm sorry just just to draw a fine point on it
00:36:53.920
your strategy isn't just to be just to be going for the moon shot but let's go win a city council seat
00:37:00.300
here let's go in a school board seat here let's find a state legislative seat to flip that's how you
00:37:05.440
change your terrain yeah you know it's more tactical yes you have to be we learned this during
00:37:10.660
covid with the lockdowns right gavin newsom created these recommendations for counties to close down
00:37:17.500
to you know shut down you have to stay in your house you have to close your business we actually
00:37:22.220
worked with different counties and different different districts in california that lifted their
00:37:27.040
public health emergency because we were working locally like atwater we worked with their sheriff we
00:37:31.860
work with their city council members with their public health officer that's how we change things
00:37:36.720
we're not going to flip the whole state so when we want people who are in leadership positions either
00:37:41.460
at a grassroots level or just a mom or dad who are like i want to get involved in politics we need to
00:37:46.800
start focusing focus on the city council the school boards because they're the ones who are making
00:37:51.360
decisions for your kids we focus on the the county board of supervisors because they're the ones who are
00:37:56.960
making these decisions for the entire district we passed in san walking county we passed resolutions that
00:38:03.240
were no qr codes required for to show your covid vaccine san walking county that's where i'm from
00:38:09.540
yeah his was red and it it for trump election was 40 you know and californians voted for trump
00:38:17.920
san walking county flipped red for him what we can do at a local level is really change the entire terrain
00:38:25.060
of where we live it's such a good battle plan for our listeners that maybe are in a place where
00:38:31.240
they don't feel like they could have a perfect candidate as their senator or congressman but
00:38:36.220
they could go find that opportunity where with the right neighbors with that in real life contact
00:38:41.400
that tara was talking about you could do it's a really a good activism plan i do want to get to
00:38:46.540
this election that we have coming up in california i'm worried i'm worried because uh i think a lot
00:38:53.220
of republicans are really happy with what president trump is doing they feel like there's more uh economic
00:38:59.060
optimism they don't really think the congress is that important anyway they haven't really done
00:39:03.360
much other than you know a few things to facilitate trump getting the country saved with a secure border
00:39:09.140
and uh and deregulation and productive investment but uh they're fired up our side might be a little
00:39:16.840
pacified and if they win this thing and just wipe five republican seats off the map
00:39:23.100
the the bad actions in california are going to have such a direct impact on the rest of the country
00:39:29.380
you know i mean with with all due respect a boy playing in girl sports in california doesn't
00:39:34.260
necessarily impact you in texas or florida but if you've got hakeem jeffries jamie raskin aoc jasmine
00:39:42.680
crockett her nails all in power uh it will be torment for the trump administration uh do you have any hope
00:39:51.140
that republicans are gonna improve on the voter turnout or do you think we're all just kind of
00:39:55.840
too happy and surfing in california right now no i think the problem with republicans is that because
00:40:01.220
trump won we're all real lazy right it's like oh winning will do that yes people become very lazy and
00:40:08.280
just not it's like herding cats trying to get people engaged we have a messed up system in california we
00:40:15.040
have an awful election integrity we don't have any election integrity in california and people republicans
00:40:20.560
do not want to vote early they don't want to vote by mail unfortunately this is a system we have right
00:40:26.180
now and so voting day of we all want to we want voter id we want day of we want paper ballots
00:40:33.180
eventually hopefully we get this with the proper leadership i hope republicans get off of their couch
00:40:41.260
stop being so lazy that's what it really is like i'm just not going to vote on this voting doesn't
00:40:46.980
matter i hear that all the time it doesn't matter well if you don't we're going to have richard pan
00:40:52.540
we're going to have scott wiener we're going to have robert revis we're going to have mike mcguire
00:40:57.240
all of these awful extremists are going to be in congress and it is going to be the hardest thing to
00:41:04.040
have to deal with on a national level i mean yeah that i think also uh animating the laziness
00:41:12.020
is that this is about process like when you're going to vote for or against a policy that can
00:41:18.660
maybe activate you more than voting for or against a map are you seeing that when you talk to people
00:41:23.200
tara well i think the hardest thing is that people people either don't know what's going on special
00:41:31.060
elections are notoriously difficult so they don't even know civically what's going on they don't know
00:41:35.400
there's one happening and then the other parts people are also giving up hope oh it's hopeless
00:41:39.980
because we don't have election integrity in california um you know we do have a ballot
00:41:45.600
initiative for voter id that should get qualified by the spring great be on it's critical it'll be on
00:41:51.720
in november 2026 for people to vote on i have no doubt that we'll pass that and that's a key
00:41:56.960
stepping stone critical yeah you know it's really critical and that's going to help candidates up and
00:42:01.800
down ballot you know for the turnout because people are going to be moved to be out on that but we need
00:42:07.380
them out now because the biggest problem like denise said we're going to have these no one even
00:42:11.960
understands how bad it is there'll be almost no republican representation from california of the 52
00:42:17.700
they'll only be like eight seven or eight percent represented for the republicans in congress they're
00:42:22.840
also going to be the worst of the worst from california being sent there but it also is you know it
00:42:29.720
perpetuates the lie what gavin newsom and his is and crew are spreading about prop 50 is a complete lie
00:42:37.660
it's gaslighting to the extreme and we should all be defending against their attack on the republic on
00:42:45.980
you know if we don't have integrity in voting and we have and we have gavin newsom out there telling
00:42:53.440
everybody one thing and they're believing it and he's spending what he spent 300 million dollars of
00:42:59.700
taxpayer dollars to put this on the ballot and then he's got the teachers association he's got soros
00:43:04.700
he's got tens of millions coming in from all sorts of sources to lie to the people that they have to
00:43:10.500
save california from trump and protect democracy when it's the absolute opposite we are stealing the
00:43:16.180
voices of californians but with prop 50 and we are putting the most extremists that do not represent
00:43:21.580
any of the people in california into the position to be at congress this is the absolute wrong
00:43:26.440
direction for california and i just hope that the lawsuits i hope that the supreme court cases out of
00:43:31.920
louisiana that say you're not supposed to racial redistrict you know that we aren't going to parse
00:43:36.700
and gerrymander that what we should be doing is only geographical districting that that sets the stage
00:43:43.140
because if this thing passes due to newsom having the microphone and able to gaslight everybody
00:43:47.400
and the fact that people don't engage in politics overall and i'll also add the democrats have the
00:43:53.060
infrastructure they know how to use the they know how to use the early voting the mail-in ballots they
00:43:59.360
know how to use the the problems with the system to their advantage and so this is why we've been
00:44:05.300
advocating so hard get out put your vote in early do it through the mail it's now in-person voting is now
00:44:11.500
open in most counties there's a few counties like a lot of rural counties like mine we actually don't
00:44:17.640
even have in-person voting we just have on the day of november 4th you can go in and and do a ballot
00:44:23.820
drop box so that means there is no every answer is vote early and then i think people need to really
00:44:30.700
know that you have to track your ballot and you have to fix it if there's a problem last in november
00:44:36.200
2024 33 000 um ballots were never counted because they got post they didn't get postmarked in time
00:44:44.700
so if you go to postmark on the final day the post office does not have to postmark it so you don't
00:44:51.500
drop your ballot in a post office without it being hand stamped for the date on the last day and if you
00:44:59.980
don't cure your ballot fix any problems we could win or lose a tight margin on that wow it that is
00:45:06.040
so foreign to me as a florida man because it's sort of like you you know if you can't get the ballot
00:45:11.160
right when you vote it maybe we don't really need your vote that bad anyway like if you couldn't figure
00:45:16.060
out uh those things but i know it is critically important the curing process and we're obviously
00:45:21.560
going through this because gavin newsom wants to be president more than any living human
00:45:25.700
what would you tell the rest of the country about gavin newsom that you think they might not know if
00:45:31.620
they hadn't lived here under his rule and only saw him as a television figure oh gosh i don't know if
00:45:38.760
i can say that on air um but he's a terrible person um gavin newsom has created california as
00:45:47.080
a sanctuary state to sterilize and mutilate children he has created this state to where parents no longer
00:45:56.120
have the ability to make decisions educational decisions medical decisions for their children
00:46:01.260
things bills like or laws like sp 107 that allows children to come here from all over the country to
00:46:07.000
get what they're calling gender affirming care and if a parent does not agree the courts can take their
00:46:12.780
children away so that is the wildest idea for a law i have ever heard yeah that the school nurse
00:46:19.380
recommending gender blockers has the ability to stand in the way of your parental rights potentially
00:46:25.280
that is so wild gavin for personally i feel like gavin newsom hates us i feel like he is using us as a
00:46:32.800
stepping stone for his political aspirations and he doesn't care who he steps on and i say this because
00:46:37.900
i know the policies that he's put forward we have been involved for almost a decade in the policies that
00:46:44.140
for california and if you look at us here we are the highest in homelessness there's 24 billion
00:46:51.240
dollars missing within the homeless industrial complex through non-profits under gavin newsom
00:46:55.640
it's just a grift it totally is nobody's getting they have to keep homelessness as a problem so that
00:47:00.460
they can keep the money flowing it's all it's all the money funneling so we have a beautiful state
00:47:06.240
california is a gorgeous state our families are suffering they can't even put food on the table
00:47:11.360
gas in the car they're worried about sending their children to public school
00:47:15.560
these kids are graduating illiterate because the standard for graduating children has been lowered
00:47:21.460
so much we have a huge problem in leadership here and it falls on the hands of gavin newsom not only
00:47:27.000
just the fires that he failed to protect people from but just the policies that are so dangerous
00:47:33.460
that families who do know them and people don't really know about what's been passed in california
00:47:38.040
nobody's engaged in politics right we're all just trying to put food on the table and go around
00:47:42.480
there's no real opposition it's not like you get these great legislative debates the democrats have
00:47:47.080
super majorities they never have to compromise and so they just steamroll you here and i think you
00:47:52.480
make a really good observation that gavin newsom uh has ambition that is even uh willing to let him
00:48:00.640
do harm to his own people to service that and and yeah i'm wondering i mean do you think anything gets
00:48:06.720
in the way of democrats nominating him right now it looks like he's the nominee i mean i
00:48:12.460
think it's it's on every one of us in california to let the world know what it's like here i mean
00:48:18.140
it is true it is hard to put you know food on the table people are struggling to pay the bills
00:48:22.460
you're you know he's about to rate hike utilities again support insurance and insurance yeah the
00:48:29.540
california fair plan is about to go up they say average 38 percent could go up 300 percent for those
00:48:35.160
in high risk areas oh no definitely when you don't have working fire hydrants the insurance going up
00:48:40.500
is a downstream effect of that because the insurance companies have to price in the risk
00:48:45.240
of government incompetence yeah he's the master gaslighter and deflector though people should
00:48:49.840
know that he's slick um but he is a gaslighter and you know he's just gone viral for you know his
00:48:56.440
about wonder bread um his little you know on the podcast talking about wonder bread well first of all
00:49:01.660
for anyone not you know too old to remember or not young enough to know we all ate wonder bread in the
00:49:05.540
70s and 80s um but he you know he's actually now forcing californians into that poverty level
00:49:13.820
like we're all you know most everyone not gavin and his cronies or his ngos and his his unions
00:49:20.400
union leaders not the union members um but the rest they're eating in french laundry
00:49:25.900
yeah gavin newsom wasn't busted eating wonder bread he was busted eating in french laundry while
00:49:31.840
everyone else was locked in their home i think this has been a really important conversation because
00:49:35.480
you've done two things for our viewers one you have laid out the warning you've shown that
00:49:39.960
it is control it is an evil globalist empire and it is personal evil that allows that to advance
00:49:48.620
but i think even more important than that warning your story is is a story of how our coalition can
00:49:54.360
grow you know a a person who was committed to left-leaning causes and social justice a person who
00:50:01.580
you know did not have the initial first best step in life and yet for the sake of your children for
00:50:08.460
the sake of your families for the sake of your state in your country you're now the freedom angels
00:50:13.360
you go all over the state you inspire candidates you train activists you give people valuable
00:50:19.460
information and i just remember being a younger guy and being told over and over again that this
00:50:25.800
movement of ours was was going to shrink constrain that as the world became less white as the world
00:50:34.360
became more enlightened as women were voting more and becoming professionals at a higher rate that
00:50:40.660
there just wasn't really a future for the republican party but but this is the future getting people
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