The Anchormen Show Episode 83 - State of Play w⧸ Pearson Sharp
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In this week's Anchor Podcast, host Matt Gates and his new co-host, Pearson Sharp, discuss the controversial issue of mandatory Hepatitis B vaccination for newborns, and why the pharmaceutical companies are fighting tooth and nail against it.
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now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and pearson shark
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welcome back to the anchorman show i'm matt gates and this is an exciting broadcast of ours
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because we are adding a new co-host that will break down the news that we've seen throughout
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the week all of the opinions and analysis that are part of the coverage every day here at one
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american news it has been an incredible year for us our distribution has increased we have had the
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opportunity to welcome great new talent always make sure you check out the best darn sports show
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with john sally here on one american news and i'm the host of matt gates show every weeknight
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nine o'clock eastern six pacific we've got the biggest newsmakers some of the activists that
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are driving this movement and now i get to talk about all those things in just a moment with our
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to the anchorman platform my good friend fellow host here at one american news pearson sharp host of the
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sharp report some of the best investigative reporting for years on this network and pearson i want to start
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with this theme of health and a report you've just had out regarding the vaccines and here's the thing
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about vaccines when when i grew up i would ask my mom why do i have to go and get stuck with some needle
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by the doctor and she would say well matt the doctor has to put in some of the dead viruses that go around
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that way your body can build armies to fight those viruses and then if you're ever infected by them
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those armies will already be built and ready to go and that made so much sense to me at the time
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and now we are seeing uh so much revealed about the side effects and the consequences and i i can't wait
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to hear what you've learned well i mean yeah that was the idea back in the day and i've even had the
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same thought that does make sense but as we're seeing it doesn't seem to be working and rfk just came
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out and said uh one of his new requirements is he wants to have the flu vaccine manufacturers prove
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that their vaccine is actually effective and they are up in arms they are fighting this tooth and nail
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why why would you fight for something that would actually prove your argument if it works
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um so the big headline this week was that uh the vaccine advisory panel said that we are we recommend
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against requiring all newborns to get the hepatitis b vaccine which when you think about it
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and their argument was why are newborn children being forced to get a vaccine that is for a risk
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that only adults would experience you know a sexually transmitted disease the argument was that
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mothers who have it might pass it on to their children which is valid but the percentage of
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mothers who have it is extremely low when isn't there a way to test for that there is a way to test
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for that so you would know ahead of time um countries other first world developed countries like
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denmark only require 11 childhood vaccines the u.s requires 72 and they have similar rates of hepatitis
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b so there's absolutely no sensible logic in requiring a newborn child to get this massive dose
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of a vaccine as soon as they're born they don't need it um so i mean that was that was one of the big
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arguments that came out this week um the other one they recommended that for parents who do get the
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hepatitis vaccine for their child they get something called a serology test the parents go to the
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doctor and say hey we'd like a serology test which is again kind of um a litmus test it's a marker it
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says does this vaccine actually work it takes the blood from the baby and looks at it and says is this
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vaccine actually protecting against hepatitis b is it building those arms right so and and the doctors
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around the country and other doctors in the panel who voted against this said that's outrageous we
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shouldn't be required to do this again why what is the argument against having to prove that this
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actually works like you say that it does but what do you think that is what because i think i know
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what i i think i know what has driven the vaccine religion in this country well i think i do too yeah
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it is obviously that uh these pharmaceutical companies want to start making money from your
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first breath yeah and the more they can plow into you absolutely before that second birthday uh the more
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they can monetize americans just existing and it it is crazy to see how many big pharma lobbyists
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exist for every member of congress it is wild on almost any other news network you could turn on to
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see how many of the ads are big pharma ads you want to know why you're not going to get the truth
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about big pharma and vaccines on cnn or fox news or whatever new name they've given msnbc this week
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it's it those messages those opinions that analysis is all sponsored by the very industry that now wants
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to avoid criticism and review and i'm not a scientist i'm a lawyer but i know this when you're finding the
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truth you you can't have a predetermined outcome and they're the outcome they want is to be able to get
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their drugs into as many people as possible as fast as possible and i would just like to go to cvs or
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walgreens one time to buy a diet dr pepper without somebody trying to like push the flu shot or the
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covid shot on me from the parking lot they have signs it's not that they care it's not that they
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care it's that they get a reimbursement from the government if they put that in you and here's the
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the fundamental question you know there's all the data you're getting about the mrna vaccines
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the myocarditis the what we're learning about hep b but is the trust just broken because i
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get from a new parent's perspective how challenging it is to weave through all these different studies
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and you used to be able to trust that if someone has made the decision that something is on the
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vaccine schedule it is probably worth the risk to do it and now it's been laid bare that it is corrupt
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it is financially driven and the reason you don't know the truth is because they have they have been
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hiding the actual data yeah absolutely i think the trust is broken at least for me and my family and
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i think for a growing number of americans uh for my second daughter i saved a mailer that kaiser sent us
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they wanted to give my daughter 38 vaccines in her first year of life 38 now some of those are bundled
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like the mrna and the d tap but when you break them down it's 38 vaccines why her immune system
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hasn't even fully formed yet and you're slamming it with all these new chemicals and toxins the
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adjuvants the aluminum sulfates all of these things it's it's unbelievable what they're putting in this
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and you're not allowed to question you're not allowed to ask questions and um i'm surprised i haven't
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tried to kill rfk jr at this point i hate to say it we're totally against political violence
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they might have talk about the amount of profit he has put in jeopardy with some of these hundreds
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of billions of dollars hundreds of billions dangerous stuff the um the one of the other big
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things that came out was an internal memo from the fda where they quietly acknowledged among themselves
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that the covid vaccines had actually killed children these vaccines killed american children
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so far they've only come out and said that 10 have died 10 is pretty bad but the investigator who was
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looking into this this is now confirmed the investigator was saying that the actual death
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toll is much higher than that and the problem the other problem is that they were never able to prove
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a correlation between the benefit of these vaccines whether they were worth the risk because the fda
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never asked the drug providers to prove whether these vaccines were worth the risk to healthy
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children they never asked them to prove that they just started handing them out they said okay well
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we don't know if this works we don't know if it's safe but we're getting a ton of money from the
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government so here go ahead try it and our children became the guinea pigs
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it was this great moment of unity right i'm always worried when we have like too much unity
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when we had too much unity after 9 11 we passed the patriot act and started invading countries without
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a legitimate basis when we had all this unity after covid we printed all the all the money that
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cost prices to go up for families and then gave liability protections to vaccine manufacturers and all
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this money to essentially perform a test on the american and that is the other thing vaccine
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manufacturers are the only companies in america that you are not allowed to sue if they harm or kill
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your child that was the big republican ask so like you know during covid what the democrats wanted was a ton
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of money to go awash in the economy and what mitch picannell and the republicans were arguing for
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were liability protections for vaccine manufacturers like in this moment of great strife
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that's what mattered to them and they got it yeah and they got it it's unbelievable um the last
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admission that came out was that the cdc finally finally i'm sure under massive pressure admitted that
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there could be and may be a link between vaccines and autism and i think that's them trying reluctantly
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that's massive if you used to say that oh i know you're crazy you had to go like hide under your
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bed and whisper it with your door locked or you were deemed a like uh flat earth conspiracy theorist
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but you have to like you have to think about it because in in 1986 i think we had something like
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like six childhood vaccines it was a very low number um and the rate of autism was one in 50 000
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and now we have 72 and the rate of autism is it's like one in less than a hundred like one in 54
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what they say what the vaccine apologists say is well there's better diagnosis right now there's
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better tooling to say okay this person is on the spectrum you know but back in the 80s you might just
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have said uh that that kid's a little off or that person's a little strange yeah i think that's
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stretching it that's absolutely stretching it we didn't have these issues before we absolutely did not
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i mean you didn't have all these people you you didn't have all these autistic people i mean it's
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you absolutely didn't they're stretching the truth on that one uh i all right uh well i hope people check
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out the sharp report on this uh it'll be airing on one american news regularly and it's going to be
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very revealing i do want to get to some political news uh we have now seen the announcement of
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congresswoman jasmine crockett for the united states senate position in texas she's going to run against
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ted cruz for the senate in texas jasmine crockett you have to say she's taken washington by storm and
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hair uh weave and nails yeah she she's been kind of a wild uh example of uh uh of excess at times in
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her legislative and oversight presentations uh do you have a hot take on crockett for senate because i sure do
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i i i hope that she runs i hope that she gets in i not that she gets in but i mean i hope that she
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she goes all the way i've i've heard that the democrats are not that crazy about her running
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right now and that they're backing away from her for obvious reasons but for that reason alone i think
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i hope she runs all right you want to know the truth about tell me yeah crockett for senate is a
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total republican op it is a brilliant republican op here's why okay in texas there was a real concern
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several elections ago that that state could be going blue the demographics were changing the margins
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for republicans were shrinking year after year and then something happens in this uh most recent
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election election with trump the hispanic men in texas come hard right yeah and and you start to see
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those districts along the rio grande go from reliably blue to purple to almost reliably red in some cases
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and it it is zapped democrats in texas of their hopes that major shift now what we saw this last week
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in these miami mayoral elections do demonstrate there could be a little softening of the support
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for republicans among hispanics if you were going to take a maximalist democrat view on how the midterms
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are going to go you would say well maybe some of this immigration enforcement has has caused some
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erosion with the hispanic vote with republicans and so if you're the republicans in texas the number one
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thing you need in a democrat nominee for senate is someone who will be repulsive to hispanic men
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they found her i cannot think of a better person for this no that would absolutely do it
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like there is no group of swing voting hispanic men that are like you know what that's who i want
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my senator to be i mean yeah if you wanted to scare people are you buying that it's an hop are you
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buying that the republicans are good enough to bait her into this race because she is the worst
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general election candidate for them in a world in which the hispanic vote decides the the i think
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that's a great theory i don't give republicans any credit today for thinking two steps ahead of
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anything i'm surprised they get their shoes on in the morning but it is a great theory and it will
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definitely work that would scare everybody in texas into voting because she's losing she's going to
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lose her her congressional seat like they're redistricting she's got to give that yeah yeah
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but i mean they're redistricting that and she's going to lose it anyway isn't she yeah it's yeah
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it's a gentleman or district that won't be anymore yeah so this is her only option now hopefully that's
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what's going to do it i i would love that to be true i just don't give republicans any credit
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well speaking of which suzy weill someone i know very well i give a lot of credit to her she's the
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chief of staff she's the president's chief political advisor she's saying that the strategy in
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these midterms is going to be to put trump on the ballot to have him campaign we saw him this week
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campaigning out in pennsylvania out of the oval office you know not uh presenting you know uh
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there with the rose garden strategy but more the rally strategy uh is that the right play you think
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in the midterms to to make it about trump because the way suzy wiles put it the traditionally what you
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try to do in the midterm elections is localize them if you're the the party in power make it about
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the road project or water project you brought home make it about you know improving economic
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conditions for your state or your district she's saying no the democrats are going to make it about
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trump we have to fight fire with fire we're going to make it about trump and it's just going to be a
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midterm election about trump what do you think you might need to have both i can see as a voter where
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you'd want to know what your representative is going to do about what's happening in your area but
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i think the national issues eclipse a lot of what's happening locally and most of my fears
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when i go to the voting booth are about what the federal government is doing and you live in california
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yeah which says a lot yeah and so i think i think a lot of republicans today don't have anything if
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they don't have trump which scares me when he's out of office well yeah what name the singular republican
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achievement that emerged organically as someone's priority out of congress that got done
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i mean what thomas massey getting the epstein files released and have they even been really like
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that that's the one big that's just like a to me that's like a big fight about uh you know
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nothing that's going to impact the price of goods the price of energy daily living the things that
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are going to decide the midterm elections so i think rallying around trump is a good thing like
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like we talked about before the show i think it could it could come back and hurt them if they
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pin too much on that but trump has unified our country and our party in ways that nobody has in
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decades maybe ever i mean i don't i can't think of anybody else who has represented a party and an
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ideology and a movement and a a desire a zeitgeist among the american people like trump has
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for better or for worse and and you know he's not perfect but he's he's brought our country together
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and so i think tying yourself to that is what a lot of people want and for me like here in california
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we have people running we've had people running in the past for governor and they try and distance
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themselves from trump you know republicans do and that's such a turnoff like you need everything
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that he represents he represents the best of america well what about like the the mod effort
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to say well you know i really like anything mod no anything but i don't like his tone i don't like
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no so for me trump is not extreme enough i i think we need to go more extreme like trump is here i want
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to be over here donald j trump is a moderate in the pearson sharp movement yeah we got to go farther
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but but i think that that is instructive for some of these candidates um it's especially coming from
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someone as smart as suzy wiles if you're going to go with that thing that version of well i agree
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with him on some things and disagree with him on other and i'm going to stand up to him when i need
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to and support him if you go with that it is kryptonite to that low propensity voter who is not dialed in
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to politics who's probably you know not up to date on the changes to the fed interest rates but has to
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believe that trump is fighting for them and that their member of congress will fight for trump
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i think the moderates weren't the ones who elected trump it was he appealed to the the base and the
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base wants this this they want to go to the wall on this you know they don't want a moderate so i think
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i think it could work are you writing the midterms off because i might be and and this will that my
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followers won't like this on the internet this you know the the steve bannonites uh who i love steve
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but they'll say you know you you you fight to the end look i get it i'm gonna be out there
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campaigning i'll do everything i can at the same time if you see an army that is right preparing
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an onslaught and coming for you you don't wait for him to get there there's value to digging some
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trenches yeah in advance yeah and if i were the trump white house right now i would have some team
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somewhere preparing for the moment that hakeem jeffries becomes the speaker and jamie raskin
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gets an oversight gavel and aoc is firing off subpoenas uh and let's hope it doesn't come to
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that but if it does we shouldn't start at that moment saying okay well who's gonna be the person
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most knowledgeable you want to try and find your underwear in the middle of the night like you want
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to know what's going on and we can do that and and it must be done because it's easy to identify
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where the democrats are going to go they're going to be all about the abrigo garcia thing they're
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obsessed with the ms13 guy that got sent to el salvador they're obsessed with protecting the
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narco terrorists in the gulf of america they'll want to know all about that that we'll have to
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relive the houthi signal group chat uh and on those areas where they've already signaled they're
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going to run plays let's go start setting up the defense right now yeah it's my perspective i completely
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agree i am with you i'm not optimistic that we're going to keep the fact optimistic would be a
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stretch i don't think we're going to keep it and hands why is that i mean the republicans are useless
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they're absolutely useless they haven't been helping trump they haven't been helping they would say
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pearson they would say we passed the reconciliation bill that built the rails for the deportations we
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stopped the nationwide injunctions we held spending at the biden levels and didn't allow any increase
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in spending and you know jim comey has been arrested uh brennan is referred for prosecution and and you
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know under review tish james got arrested i mean there were there was some action on the weaponization
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front that's that doesn't do it for you no that doesn't do it for me we've got this ndaa coming up
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where we're giving more money to ukraine uh what were the other ones on that um it's it's not
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heartening to see all the the letdowns that we've had trump can't can't get his people in the the
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democrats were getting people in left and right when they had power and republicans have just been
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sitting on their thumbs i am not impressed what the republicans have been doing well let's talk about
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that so i mean there is conventional wisdom that the party in the white house loses the house and like
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that generally seems to be the case but if if you knew you were going to lose the midterms
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think about how you would spend every day that you had the presidency the house the senate the
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supreme court all these governor mansions if you thought you were going to be wiped out in the
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midterms you would try to get 16 hours out of every one of these days moving every priority you
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possibly could to save the country and you would be willing to sacrifice the majority sacrifice your
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members make them take tough votes make them say you know what this vote might cost you your
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election but at the end of the day we've got it now we've got a hold of the ball now and we can
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we can get voter id done nationally or not this is this is the chance let's get rid of obamacare
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why can't we do that get rid of obamacare the news this week is that moderates in yeah they've
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got their own version the house are they want a clean extension they're going to work with democrats
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on a clean extension see this is this is why this is what pisses off american voters is what pisses
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me off this isn't working this is dysfunctional well by the way the people receiving those subsidies
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uh would say well a bunch of us are trump voters and by the way why are you cutting our subsidies
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when you're still sending money to ukraine and people all over the world well i'd agree with that
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let's stop sending money to ukraine yeah let's let's stop doing that you would you would cut a lot of
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it now you mentioned the uh frustration president trump has about his appointees we got a hot mic moment from
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the president we did let's play it and we'll react after after that moment you know i cannot
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all right pearson president trump reasonably frustrated and upset yeah absolutely senate
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congress it doesn't matter the republicans are not on his side he's shaking up the establishment and
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they don't like that and that's well there's a specific dispute yeah there's a specific dispute
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about blue cards are you familiar with this no so there is a tradition in the senate that if you
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are nominated from a particular state that if the two senators from your state don't agree then you
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don't even get a hearing you don't even get considered and so the the gatekeeper for consideration
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of confirmation in the senate the baseline is that your senators have to be for you well you know
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in my case when i saw confirmation gosh the first two phone calls i got were marco rubio and rick scott
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saying we're gonna go be your greatest champions but when alina haba an all-around good person who was
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trying to enforce the law and do the right thing uh was told that to even get a hearing in the united
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states senate judiciary committee should it go pick cory booker yeah yeah what what is the point of a
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majority if we're doing trump can't get his appointees he can't get alina haba but mom donnie
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can get a convicted criminal to be in charge of his public safety and no one questions that
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wait tell me about this i haven't been following you're not aware of that no so he picked a convicted
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felon who spent seven years in jail uh he's a rapper what did he do armed robbery and so he
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picked him crime is what you're saying right yeah so he picked him to be in charge of his public
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safety council no way an armed robbery guy in charge of the public safety council yeah it may
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not be a public safety but it's in charge of the public safety that's yeah so he can get his pick
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and no one bats an eye like yeah great let's give this rapper you know oh he served his time he's he's
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a valuable member of her but we can't get alina haba it's unbelievable this is a clown show well and
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i think trump is looking at this and saying the republicans and democrats aren't even playing the
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same game by the same rules like no do you do you honestly believe if kamala harris had won that
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election and democrats had control of the senate that they wouldn't fire somebody through without
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asking right marco rubio and rick scott one no they wouldn't take no prisoners they would have done
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what they were trying to throw us all in jail they were they were saying people were domestic terrorists
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who you know uh had no intention of breaking the law yeah and uh so that is trump's frustration
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but you've got senator grassley you know in his late 80s leading the senate judiciary committee uh
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and uh it's uh it it's maybe why we uh why we can't have a bunch of out-of-touch dinosaurs in
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charge of this place but one place where the rule of law seemingly has collapsed and all the media has
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been covering we've been covering it a ton on the mac age show is like mogadishu west or as we call it
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minneapolis uh these revelations of fraud um congresswoman uh omar talking about the interconnectivity
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between somalia and uh and what we're seeing in uh you know in minneapolis what do you what's your
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read on this uh do you think this is something that we're going to encounter in a lot of u.s cities or
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is it something really unique about how many somalis were just dumped in minneapolis in the 90s
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that's very strange why they got dumped there specifically like how did of all the places in
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the country and where the world just end up minnesota minneapolis it's very bill clung just
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like throw a dart at a map and say right was there i don't believe minnesota should really
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be suitable for any humans to have to live it is so cold and miserable so i guess as good a place
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as any but it is a lesson in the failures of of assimilation there is no assimilation and the
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what i'm trying to figure out with this institutionalized fraud which is like you
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know in the staggering it's the biggest in u.s history are we dealing with neglect and negligence
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or are we dealing with a highly sophisticated system of of funneling these funds abroad
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i think this is all intentional and i think it's all intentionally destabilizing i don't know if
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necessarily the fraud here exactly exactly is part of this conspiracy but i think putting the
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somalians there knowing they're a destabilizing factor this is the result of that it's all part
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of that plan help bring down the system and you see it like you asked if it was just going to be in
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minneapolis we're already seeing in other places what was it massachusetts they raised a somalian flag
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over no vermont over one of the schools they raised a somalian flag it took down the u.s flag
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and raised a somalian flag in solidarity and you had i think it was a congresswoman
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it was an elected official and she was from somalia and she said my job now is to represent
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somalia and i'm going to do everything i can to make sure somalia is taken care of
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what happened to the united states well those were some of i think the comments that that aligned with
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what the congresswoman omar had said in a different time yeah yeah exactly and omar fatah
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yeah yeah omar fatah was running for mayor of minneapolis and you saw the video where he was
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he was waving the somalian flag speaking somalian in his campaign video and vowing loyalty to somalia
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like it's unbelievable you try to imagine the reaction to this if this happened like 50 years ago
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30 years ago i mean even in the 90s you had people like bill and hillary clinton talking about how
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we must have assimilation you know chuck schumer was saying people need to come here and be a part of
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our country like you shouldn't come here and represent somebody else and and passing these
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very actually strict deportation laws back in the day bill clinton passed a law i forget what it was
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called but it basically gave the uh the government the ability to it's called expedited deportations
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you get rid of anybody on any excuse basically it was like expedited deportations exactly what trump's
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trying to do and clinton passed it so what we're looking at today is just absolutely astonishing i don't
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recognize the country anymore are you satisfied with the deportation agenda and the pace i mean it
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looks like they're moving at as fast a speed as some of these judges will allow
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you know what i'm going to say i deport them all i mean mass deportations every day we need millions
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millions gone we've got 50 60 million illegals in this country far higher than anyone has has
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recognized it really has had an impact on the housing oh yeah housing and medicare costs um the the one
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here in california calmed yeah calmed but uh that was a story that just came out ambulance costs here
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in california in the last two years have gone up 400 percent they went from 300 in 2022 to 1300
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and what happened well we had 20 million new illegals come into the country and that's a version of
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health care that yeah anyone can access call 911 yeah and they treat it like they treat it like an
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urgent care they go in for anything and we have to pay for it uh i i think that the self-deportations
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that we're seeing outside of the mechanized to deportations will have the most kind of cultural
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societal impact where people are choosing to go home and frankly i hope people make that election
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because that's the most humane way to do this the most humane way is to send people their message on
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the app that says you know you you were you were essentially welcomed into the country by an
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administration that opened borders those aren't the rules anymore here's a thousand dollars to
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gather your things in an orderly way and return to your home country i think that is wonderful and i i
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hope more people uh take uh take use of it and you know what the um i think the worm has turned
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where they're not going to ever be able to go back to the open borders with the excuse that it's just an
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unsolvable problem i think that's what's durable about trump's policies is that he has stripped the
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left of ever the ability to just say well it can't be done i'm so excited when we get our merriweather
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yeah but it doesn't matter they don't need an excuse they never asked us we never voted for
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mass migration they did it anyway that's what they're doing in europe they're destroying our
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country without asking us once what we want it doesn't matter so they can give whatever excuse
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they want and they get away with it because the media backs them up europe has struggled from these
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war migrants i mean we we talk a lot about these middle east policies that uh that cause violence
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and cause war that are perpetrated in in different places and that arise in different places um i'm
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very interested in your perspective on what's going on in syria right now because you've been to the
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country you uh have reported on the conditions for a lot of the religious minorities and christians
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there now we've got this new president who seems to be celebrated in the arab world but what are you
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what are you able to tell us about kind of the conditions in in syria right now they're horrific
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they're absolutely horrific and it's not getting covered and you have shockingly i don't i do not
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understand it you have the same media organizations and the same world leaders who were condemning
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bashar al-assad for attacking his civilians praising the new leader jelani for being this this
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scion of peace and democracy and ushering in a new era for syria and he's he's a savage he's a barbarian
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he's isis he is the face of isis he fought for al-qaeda for al-nusra he's the worst person in the world
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who could be leading a country and he's slaughtering thousands tens of thousands of christians of alawites
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of minorities they're the the atrocities that are happening under him the people that i've spoken to
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who have fled syria people who are still in touch syrians who are still in touch with their families
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there send me videos that turn your guts it's awful and and somehow he's being accepted as this
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righteous upstanding leader and we're welcoming him welcoming him in the western world i do not
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understand it israel is launching attacks in syria they've got they've got troops that are that are
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there in the golan area is israel righteous in in attacking their neighbor syria given the conditions
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that you've just laid out i think israel has its own agenda uh for that specifically in the golan heights
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they certainly don't want to have such a destabilizing influence right on their border
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um but i don't think what they're doing is for humanitarian purposes they're there's four
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um once their own security i don't think they care that much about what's happening in in syria
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humanitarian wise um two there's resources i think they're fighting for i think they'd love to have
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some territory in syria um in addition to the golan heights um there's also a sect of uh a
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religious sect and i forget the name of the jews yeah i think it's the jews yeah uh who are in
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some of the areas in syria that they're defending and so that's that's one other reason because there's
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a lot of jews in israel yeah that it's an important constituency no doubt uh jelani does seem to have
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control of the country that was always an open question with assad particularly there at the end
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do you think he lasts that's a great question uh he's he's well i understand he's being propped up
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the saudis love him don't they they do why is that they really love him i mean i mean mbs really really
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pushed for the sanctions relief on syria and on a lot of the recognition of jelani yeah he's he's an
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extremist and a lot of the saudis hold extremist views even if they have learned to work with western
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governments i don't think he can last because he's so oppressive but there may be external forces
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that enable him to continue ruling and i i pray and i think all christians should be praying right
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now for the people who are who are stuck there suffering under him right now what about this
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theory isis won they did that's that's not a theory they did yeah there's this theory that that
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what isis is is some little batch of fighters in the mesopotamian river that we've got a track down
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actually what isis is is jelani and actually what they were trying to do was create a caliphate
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and actually if the reporting that you're you're sharing continues to bear out that's exactly what
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they're doing and so what isis wanted a place where they could control with a with a radical islamo-fascist
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in control of it where minorities were executed it's it's hard to tell the difference between
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syria today and what isis was trying to build yeah no absolutely that's not a theory that's reality
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you nailed it and when you look at some of the concerning connections between saudi arabia
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and isis on the funding front and then you start to look because i think that a lot of saudis
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maybe not the government of saudi arabia but a lot of rich saudis thought well you know what
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you see these iranian shia militias that rip across syria and occupy territory and and feed cash
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back when they seize oil wells and resources maybe we need some sunni um they're ideologically aligned
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forces that do the same yeah saudi arabia has been propping up
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indoctrinating madrasas all over the world you know over the last couple of decades i think they're
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not going to be that upset to have an extremist government running they also do the stuff with
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live golf and they also have these commercial enterprises it's western outreach well i i wonder
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how compatible all of that is long term right wouldn't we want a world in which every country
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uh resisted their worst impulses and embraced a future that was uh more uh more modern and not
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like you know tribal executionist i think that would be probably a good thing and uh saudi arabia i
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think still has that choice before them yeah they do i'm not sure i'm not sure what the question was
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with that though i i agree i that would be great i don't know the question is do you think the die is
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cast as to saudi arabia or do you think they are in a time of evolution that is reflected by on one
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hand entering all these western markets and sports and and uh entertainment and content and then on the
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other side backing jelani in syria the problem matt is that it's it's their religion and it's not just like
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a philosophy it's not like democracy like it's their core belief and it it it drives everything
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that they do i don't accept the proposition that the islamic faith at its core is uh is conducive
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to the type of of violence that we've seen in isis and and the worst terrorists i know plenty of people
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who are practicing muslims who are peaceful wonderful outstanding people just like some of the worst
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representations of christianity don't don't reflect the views of all christians yeah but there's no
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christians around the world right now who run a government that beheads people or that stones
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people to death or we've had our days when we have islam but there there are plenty of countries run by
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by people who are of of the islamic faith that don't do that that are perfectly fine countries that
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in some cases may have quality of life for their citizens better than in the united states like
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singapore singapore is a as as some of the highest income that yeah but i mean if you if you high
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quality of life low crime if you spit on the street you get stoned i mean it's like they have
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some horrible laws i mean yeah but that's not realistic for like charlie crook said and like i've said
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islam is not compatible with western civilization political islam you don't think people it's a
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theocracy well not it's a theocracy not in every instance there are people who practice islam who
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don't who don't fuse it with their politics i think it's so why don't you have these moderate islamists
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coming out against all this extremism you don't often do i don't see that happening you don't you
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don't see uh in in the islamic world people condemn hamas i saw every major country after october
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7th condemn hamas it seems like everything that they do is either remain silent about these kinds of
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things or or tacitly support what's happening support this kind of extremism i i have a different view of
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it i think that you are seeing a rise of a lot of these middle eastern markets in riyadh and doha
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abu dhabi dubai muscat oman and they they want to sit at the big boy table they in terms of capital
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markets they are the big boy table and it is a time it is a time when they're having to reconcile
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at times like violent tribal uh warring pasts with their desire to have access to different asset
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i think i think that arabian deserts for the purpose of the billions that are at stake negotiating with
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western governments i think they are able to tamp down some of their wilder impulses let's hope we all
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can well but it's for the money it's not because they believe it's right and one of the funny stories
00:41:40.460
i saw was that um there was some i'm not a sports guy there was some major sporting event maybe it's
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the olympics it was going to be held winter olympics in seattle or something and um there were two the
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theme of it was pride it was going to be a pride event and there are two muslim nations who have to go
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there and play at that event and they were throwing holy hell because it's a pride event and they
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objected to that and i don't know why too well i absolutely would but i don't know why you don't see
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the mainstream media holding them to task on this it's like when pride month happens every year
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oh no they were when when the world cup was in qatar like the mainstream media was obsessed about
00:42:22.620
whether or not they were going to enforce their anti-homosexuality laws on people they seem to
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get a free pass on this i never see it in the media about like no they were criticized roundly
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for it like like uh all these companies bmw and and jet blue and boeing and stuff they all change
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their logos during pride month they never do in the middle east in and they don't get called out for
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that um to me that's not the middle east fault maybe maybe ours well i agree no i'm not calling
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out them but i'm just saying like they don't it what they represent does not represent us and it's
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not compatible that's the bottom line yeah i i don't think it's compatible from a governance
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standpoint but i don't think or a life standpoint you don't you you would you would it really bother
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you if your neighbors were of of the islamic faith yes yeah that wouldn't bother me at all i don't
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think you can you can make judgments about entire groups because i don't i don't trust them i don't
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are you secretly jihadists i mean that's like saying if someone is uh worships uh like when the fbi was
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saying traditional catholics maybe they're all like you know uh in the clan it is crazy and false
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and wrong um judgments to draw about groups of people based on on some of the behavior of their
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worst members i will say that well my wife's family is from lebanon and there was one instance where
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i believe it was members of uh hamas were going door to door rounding up christians
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jeez to kill them and our their neighbors my wife's parents neighbors were muslim and they came over
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and told her dad to hide to get out of there because they were coming well i'm sure i'm sure glad your
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in-laws didn't have the same view of their muslim neighbors that that you i mean you can't you can't
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just go to war with the people living next to you you have to you know you have to make it work with
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your neighbors but at the same time muslims have absolutely devastated lebanon they've destroyed
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the country the christians are fleeing they're doing the same thing in syria and so no i don't i
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don't trust i don't trust that it's that that islam represents anything we can live with
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all right final thing i want to talk to you about uh we got these negotiations going on right now
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uh to end the war and it seems as though or between russia and ukraine and it seems as though
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zelinski is saying that his line in the sand is any territorial recognition of gains by russia now you
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and i've talked about this a lot and we we we knew it would come to this point where zelinski would have
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to be revealed as somebody standing in the way of any sort of peace and it seems president trump
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is getting that uh he was very critical of zelinski in his comments this week you follow this closely
00:45:11.300
you've been to the dombas region where this war was being fought you've met with the people fighting
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this war what chapter do you think we're in right now we're in the final phase before zelinski takes
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the fall because i think he is going to be the fall guy in the situation i think he has been held up
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as this champion for so long and now he's in a place where he's going to be blamed for everything
00:45:37.100
and there's so much corruption that he's involved with inextricably that there's no one else who could
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have approved or there's no way he could have not known what was happening so i think right of course
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and i think that's what's going to happen and so i think this is the last period before that happens
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and he takes the fall for everything and someone else replaces him and then we have peace so i don't
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know what the timeline is for that and it may not happen exactly but is that why he's standing in the
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way of any sort of agreement because he knows he's in the last act of this for his i think he still has
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delusions of grandeur oh i still think he thinks he's in charge and he's not and he never has been
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and so what he's doing right now is just showboating because he thinks he can hold it together
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whoever to his credit i think he does understand that any leader of ukraine who accepts a deal where
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you give up territory is just they're going to crucify you so he doesn't want to accept that he
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doesn't want to be the person who carves up ukraine and accepts that deal but he's gonna have to be
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well let me offer this pushback and you know i'm no fan of the u.s involvement in this war
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voted against it every opportunity i had i think putin overplayed his hand in alaska
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if you look at recent public opinion data nato's never been more popular than it is right now now
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i don't have a very favorable view of of uh the excesses of nato and the way that it's operated
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but when putin went to alaska and didn't really offer anything didn't really bring anything to the
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table didn't emerge with a ceasefire or anything like that i think a lot of americans just thought you
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know what this guy uh is is overplaying his hand uh and we're in this cycle of trump being annoyed
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with putin for a while then annoyed with zelinski for a while and who wins the war may ultimately be
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who wins the cyclical nature of of those interactions uh of president trump i think trump and putin and
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we've talked about this i think trump and putin came to an agreement in alaska and i think they had
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a very good understanding of how things were going to play out and i think things are playing out
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according to their plan i'm not a big believer in conspiracy like 5d chess and thinking 20 steps
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ahead that everybody gives our leaders credit for but i think that they laid it out and trump knows
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zelinski's nobody he knows he's not in charge or calling the shots it's putin and trump who are
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going to decide the peace deal and i think they came to an agreement and the problem like we've
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discussed is that they couldn't just turn off the war in one day i think that they have to go
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through maybe not an act but i think there's a series of steps that have to be followed because
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there's people like lindsey graham who want to keep this going well then tell us pearson what's
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what's the next step in the dance with trump and putin i think we're seeing it right now and i think
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it's the corruption against zelinski i think all these investigations are setting up for him to fall
00:48:31.440
for him to be taken out of power and that's that's going to be the justification because we've known
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about these things for years this isn't a secret you know he's been buying up mansions and he was
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in the it was the panama papers and there was one after that what was after the panama papers yeah i
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i know there have been he was mentioned in that as having a bunch of offshore property and not
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declaring it when you know when he became president in 2019 and there's just been a bunch of scandals
00:48:57.260
involving him and for some reason the media has given him a free pass well now again for some reason
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those same scandals are coming back to haunt him and by the way the media loves nothing more than
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destroying a hero they've built right they build zelinski up and the media giveth feed him to the
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sharks yeah we'll take him away well pearson thank you for spending the hour chatting with me about
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