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00:00:00.000 now it's time for the anchorman podcast with matt gates and dan ball

00:00:11.360 welcome back to a show we call anchorman i'm matt gates host the matt gates show here on

00:00:20.380 one america news we are on every single weeknight nine eastern six pacific you can also download

00:00:26.000 the oan live app at oann.com and this is our fun weekly project where we bring some of the

00:00:32.260 interesting people that we know from around the america first movement and even around the

00:00:36.760 building here at one american news together to talk about what's on our mind and as always

00:00:41.000 i am joined by the og producer of steve bannon's war room the producer on the matt gates show

00:00:47.220 vish burrah vish thanks for joining always a pleasure matt and making her anchorman debut

00:00:53.220 dana alexa one of the great anchors that we have here on one america news so uh really i guess

00:00:59.140 at the beginning what life choices have you made that have culminated in you sitting here with us

00:01:06.160 in the one america news studio for this discussion clearly bad ones if i'm out of here with you two

00:01:12.380 guys no no no no um you know i i had this vision when i was in the seventh grade that i've always

00:01:19.020 wanted to be in journalism and join journalism and and be like on the big screen i grew up watching

00:01:24.620 fox with my dad shocker um who was your favorite fox host growing up growing up i had a couple i love

00:01:32.320 stossel i still watch stossel to this day yeah um he's got he has like great clips and then uh

00:01:38.060 obviously like og tucker i was i was a little bit old bowtie tucker yeah yeah that was bowtie tucker

00:01:44.060 good taste i mean i was i was watching it like at such a young age and then um and then you know

00:01:49.460 throughout my college years and and now we we've shifted to a more alternative media i think where

00:01:54.200 we are and so now we look to more independent journalists but yeah i was i was an og fox girl

00:01:58.960 people said that i was the love child of tucker carlson and laura ingram okay i'm making that up

00:02:04.700 that's one comment under a youtube post and i'll never forget it and then i was just like okay i'm

00:02:12.560 gonna brand myself like that i don't even think those two get along well i wouldn't know i'm not

00:02:17.380 even sure they're friends i mean a love child i feel like would be very strong i feel like you have

00:02:22.040 a very strong heart that's what that so what are your what are your favorite stories to to cover here

00:02:26.340 at oan um i i like everything i like to pick apart a lot of stuff and uh culture economics foreign policy

00:02:35.460 you know i think i like the culture wars stuff and and but what i like about it is i like to

00:02:41.260 get on both sides like i like to like get on the republicans a bit and the democrats a bit

00:02:45.840 it's kind of like when i'm with friends too like when i'm with my more conservative republican friends

00:02:49.920 i i get a little bit a little bit more liberal i have a little bit more liberal perspective and

00:02:54.180 then vice versa i'll don't worry i'll silence my phone uh does that work can you still have friends

00:03:00.700 fish that are on both sides that you that you razz like do you do you still in 2025 have like

00:03:07.360 liberal friends that you go back to and and tease or are we so shirts and skins at this point where

00:03:12.840 that's not really a part of friend formation anymore no i have liberal friends that i go to

00:03:17.180 all the time and i consult them all the time because i want that perspective i don't want to lose that

00:03:21.300 right like i want to be able to see the other side and understand what they're seeing what they're

00:03:26.100 digesting because that helps me make my decisions on not just news coverage but some political

00:03:31.940 calculations as well and stuff like that so i think it's an invaluable perspective and my friends

00:03:37.160 who know me know me before all the politics stuff and most of them are like that so even if they're

00:03:43.120 liberal so they talk to me honestly because i'm vish not because i'm republican and you know that that's

00:03:50.160 actually really important because imagine how boring life is just being surrounded by only republicans

00:03:55.220 in the conservative perspective there's that echo chamber there's nothing new coming out and it gives you

00:04:00.640 kind of the challenge to also bring back with you to your more conservative friends it's like oh have

00:04:05.380 you ever thought of this it's probably like not the best opinion but it's something to think about

00:04:10.480 yeah plus i like to get into debate so i think that was far more pervasive before january 6th i used to

00:04:16.540 hold the view that both of you hold and what i have to tell you is after january 6th 2021 if you were on

00:04:24.140 the left you could no longer have like intelligent reasonable discourse or razzing or mockery because

00:04:32.940 there was such a like they were so chastened by it they were so they were so like off put by that this

00:04:39.160 was this was the end of the republic because of like one riot when they had just spent a summer

00:04:46.460 defending a series of riots and death of police officers and harm to our federal buildings but

00:04:54.800 after january 6 2021 uh i really lost like a lot of the people throughout my life that i might have

00:05:02.120 played baseball with or been in scouting with and um they were just like oh oh the fact that you the

00:05:08.920 fact that you didn't vote to certify pennsylvania means it's over between us and i'm not saying that that

00:05:15.960 i'm any the better for it but it is a uh it lays over our politics in a totally unnecessary way

00:05:22.900 i think it's maybe your experience is a little more acute because i think a lot of people do know

00:05:28.560 you so much through politics and that you have the power right because you're saying it wasn't my

00:05:33.920 baseball career that was cut short the lack of talent that that i know you for yes yes i was

00:05:39.580 forget your time in politics i could throw out a runner at any base as a literally catcher so uh when

00:05:46.200 we ask people to come on the program we ask them to think about one macro big question in the news or

00:05:52.380 politics or society that we can kick around for a while so ladies first dana alexa give us your big

00:05:59.320 question and then i'm bringing in a very special guest for expert commentary love it love it so there's

00:06:04.560 this uh ongoing war right now brewing in the gop and you're going to see this divide of conservative

00:06:10.720 women particularly and it's the question at hand is if you're a conservative woman in this modern day

00:06:17.320 and age are you to grow up and you know do the normal life stuff get married have kids stay at home

00:06:24.420 do all the do the classic housewife duties or can you venture off do those same things

00:06:29.500 and be a working woman and so in light of what happened last week there's these two conservative

00:06:36.900 influencers one emily wilson or emily saves the world uh she does these little like car videos

00:06:43.560 where she talks about politics and and she made a point a rather contentious point where if you're a

00:06:51.320 woman in this world have a plan beyond just becoming a stay-at-home wife and mom you know get your bag

00:06:58.460 make some money and make a career for yourself and that obviously has a lot of hit back because

00:07:03.620 if you're a true conservative in the true sense of the word and you know if you're thinking back to

00:07:08.200 the 1950s era uh where women were happy their happiest statistically was at home you know taking

00:07:16.480 care of the kids feeding your husband all the housework is clean making sourdough bread it was

00:07:21.860 mentioned in the video so uh yeah no there there's a clip of that zach if you want to want to run emily's

00:07:26.960 clip i'm gonna cue you in for the clip hate to call out my own party but the young girls on the right

00:07:33.300 promoting this like trad wife bull i just want to make sourdough for my husband that's great i'm all

00:07:39.520 for it i promote traditional values i understand i have been working since i was very young i don't

00:07:44.840 really plan on stop being working i suggest you find a hobby that makes you money but you guys guess

00:07:51.720 what guess what baby girl that lifestyle working out a man a provider you just get to sit at home

00:07:56.380 baked bread every day slim to none i would say none that that's gonna work out for you or quite

00:08:02.420 literally anyone you know you're actually setting yourself up for failure because it could not be

00:08:07.580 easier if that's what you're gonna pursue to be trapped by a man okay also let's bring some other

00:08:13.720 things to the table besides sourdough let's let's guys want to be mentally stimulated as well as physical

00:08:20.420 okay but i'm just like please you guys are too young to be promoting this and also by the way

00:08:25.680 it's cringe whoa there's a lot going on first let me let me start it off first thing what's wrong

00:08:33.020 with sourdough if anything bring more sourdough so wait wait so you disagree with that take no okay

00:08:39.660 initially okay i got into a big fight with my boyfriend about this clip actually it was like a

00:08:44.140 three-hour fight before i know any more okay i'm gonna need to know how long the two of you have

00:08:47.620 been dating okay um fun fact bet you didn't know this i'm dating cara mckinney's brother

00:08:51.820 okay well how long have the two of you been dating almost oh my gosh two two and a half years okay

00:08:57.260 yeah two and a half years so things have things are pretty serious they're heating up yeah things

00:09:01.440 are heating up okay all right so after this two and a half year relationship you get into this dispute

00:09:06.540 yeah over this representation or this critique of of the trad world and your take is what so initially

00:09:14.060 watching it i was like oh my god i i totally agree with her i'm like we need to do more than

00:09:19.200 make sour nothing wrong with making sourdough but but my whole take is i think if you have the choice

00:09:24.840 to do both that's that is wonderful however i think women even if they're stay at home have something

00:09:32.440 that you're you can make money off of as you know you never know what can happen you need to have

00:09:38.800 some type of a backup and there's a lot of times in marriages where things don't go work they don't

00:09:44.280 work out you know you get the divorce i don't know how much you end up with and then you're kind of

00:09:49.400 stuck alone with the kids and you know who knows what's happening in the dispute in the courts and

00:09:53.780 who gets what and well two things principally matter one how much money was there to begin with

00:09:58.660 which goes back to your core choice on marriage and then two how good is your divorce lawyer

00:10:03.120 that that is true i i just i just think i i just think women again nothing wrong with staying at

00:10:08.140 home but but so you agree so what you're what you're saying is there is a nugget of truth in

00:10:14.660 that influencer's rant yeah that you need to have something that this notion that the trad husband is

00:10:21.760 out there for every trad wife to let you just go bake sourdough doesn't exist that's no i think it does

00:10:27.480 i think it does initially i was like writing hard for him i was like okay emily i see your point but

00:10:31.600 then i watched it back a couple times and she kind of seems a little spiteful like she's a little

00:10:35.920 maybe she's a little jealous so just to paint the picture she she lives in los angeles so obviously we

00:10:41.000 have the highest cost of living so i think her finding a real hard steady conservative man that's

00:10:46.800 probably slim to none oh so you think there's a geographic bias all right all right all right so

00:10:50.980 we've we've got the core take yes now i have to bring in the person that i believe to be the true

00:10:56.560 expert on this question actually when my wife ginger saw that we were going to be

00:11:01.580 debating this today she did not trust vish and i to adequately respond to and debate the

00:11:09.740 intellectual point you are making and so for for our adult supervision making her anchorman debut my

00:11:17.440 wife ginger gates ginger you've seen the video you've heard dana's take you've got the floor lay down

00:11:25.280 the law is the is the trad life as unattainable as the los angeles influencer says uh or is that

00:11:33.540 something still to be held as a standard i think you definitely have to decouple a few things so you

00:11:39.100 you can be a trad wife and also be a boss babe at the same time so i think you can build up those

00:11:44.680 skill sets i think you can be i mean if you're working for a company you're learning skills like

00:11:48.860 organizational skills and leadership which you can bring back to your family as well and i think with this

00:11:53.960 day and age i mean it does start to be a trad wife you need to have you know your trad husband there

00:11:58.760 and so when those are becoming fewer and fewer of those i mean you have to be working towards

00:12:03.260 something being passionate about something growing your own skill set to be able to be the type of

00:12:08.040 wife that that trad husband would be attracted to and want to make his wife so i think there's some

00:12:13.080 truth in there um i definitely agree that there might be there was a little bit of attitude around there

00:12:17.960 being no guys out there that would be willing to support this but i think if you're the type of

00:12:22.940 woman that your only goal um and that you're going to forego maybe building up yourself your own skill

00:12:28.480 sets your own ambitions your own career in only pursuing the perfect sourdough i think you can do

00:12:34.360 it all see she touched on something so good it was it was balance and it like you said ginger building

00:12:40.180 up the skill sets like we're doing today you know having the wherewithal to know what you can handle

00:12:44.980 that's great uh realistically again we're in california it's a lot harder to be a trad wife

00:12:50.580 like in this economy for real i mean you almost have to work you there's no voice when you choose

00:12:56.900 to be in a relationship with someone you're in a relationship with the college debt they accrued

00:13:01.240 with the lease that they are currently in yeah and any credit card debt like that's tell me that that

00:13:08.120 is not a part of the relationship scale that i believe is the only explainable reason for why

00:13:13.220 vish burgh is still single because otherwise he dances he sings he does karaoke vish is a triple

00:13:22.520 threat oh yeah i'm a trained dancer jazz tap and ballet actually but ladies you heard it here

00:13:28.980 first of all i think it's all about go ahead i think it's all about priorities so if you're a woman

00:13:34.920 and your priority might be to be a trad wife then what you should be doing is building up your you know

00:13:40.400 your skill set maybe your financial situation that you are that person because i think it is

00:13:45.380 the most important decision you make in your life is who you marry it it you know decides your economics

00:13:50.900 it decides the values of your family it decides your happiness and so i think you can be working

00:13:56.200 towards wanting a traditional family and being a trad wife while also building up a career and with this

00:14:02.140 day and age i mean with remote work women can be working from home there's an article last week

00:14:06.860 that came out by the economist saying that there's more and more kind of stay-at-home dads or stay-at-home

00:14:10.860 husbands because the wife might be in a role like a nurse like a teacher which are very very nurturing

00:14:16.120 characteristics that you'd probably want in a wife and she probably brings those back and adds to her

00:14:20.700 family so i think it's about priorities and not being so narrow focused on just wanting to be picked up

00:14:26.720 by a man because you know you're right in that the the type of men that are out there that are

00:14:31.480 that financially stable enough and want their traditional wife they probably also want to be

00:14:35.660 intellectually stimulated so that is where emily is right or it's a generational boomerang

00:14:41.320 swinging back or what we're really witnessing with the the return of the trad wife phenomenon

00:14:47.420 is that the boomer wives waited for their husbands to get home from war and had the kitchen ready and

00:14:54.600 were ready to have the kids and send those gis off to college or to the office or to the workforce

00:15:01.340 then you had the gen xers who had you know uh i think a a real conundrum because if you were a

00:15:11.900 female gen xer your your mom if she was in the workforce was a nurse a teacher or a secretary and

00:15:18.620 so they had to pioneer this space which led which led gen xer women in the workforce to be like some of

00:15:25.360 the meanest women you'll ever work with because there was only room for one at the you know ginger

00:15:30.060 makes this point far better than i do and so they they were like the women that were always out to

00:15:34.280 get other women well i'm an elder millennial by the time i came along there were more women in law school

00:15:39.720 than there were men so there was never this belief that women were in a subservient position vis-a-vis

00:15:45.980 professional opportunity they were the majority but by the time i got there and now i think you see a

00:15:52.600 lot of these zoomer women who look around at the gen x women that are unhappy the millennial women that

00:15:58.900 are unhappy and lonely and overeducated and underloved in many cases and they think about

00:16:04.560 how happy their grandmothers were so maybe the question is it's not about what you're most capable

00:16:09.580 at the question is where are women most happy and and that tends to be more than not i guess in the

00:16:14.860 home now for me personally that wouldn't work because uh i'll be just very direct i'll look in the

00:16:21.460 camera when i say it you don't want me in the kitchen i can't make sourdough i can barely make

00:16:26.480 eggs without screwing it up so there's only a few women i would say a lot actually just not me or

00:16:31.840 anybody a well-cooked egg requires an artistic touch it really does and and also you have to

00:16:37.680 have patience when you're cooking again you don't want me in the kitchen it should be illegal in all

00:16:41.940 50 states but we're not done with this conversation matt walsh weighed in on emily's video um i think we

00:16:47.800 have his tweet okay here we go from matt a huge number of conservative influencers are actually

00:16:53.980 left-wing feminists who despise the very things that conservatism by definition is supposed to be

00:17:00.460 conserving good point vich i yeah i kind of disagree with matt walsh but not for the reasons that you

00:17:11.160 think and i agree with emily and her take but also not for the reasons that you might think the problem

00:17:19.240 i think this comes down to is like a a chicken and the egg problem like what comes before what

00:17:25.780 poorly cooked egg in dana's kitchen hopefully that doesn't come after but what i think is going on is

00:17:33.480 what what was the my belief is that the original intent of marriage is essentially to bring together

00:17:40.600 a man and a woman who then where the woman would be the junior partner in the man's enterprise right

00:17:48.560 and so like i i've never bought into this idea that women didn't work until you know the 50s 60s 70s

00:17:56.300 in america is that cultural no because i gotta tell you that is that has never been how my family

00:18:01.480 has worked my family is like a herd of elephants we follow the matriarch and and everyone knows it

00:18:07.580 at home so this notion that like the man is in charge and bosses everybody around no that's not what

00:18:11.880 i'm saying ginger in in our house ginger bosses but that's every day but that's not what i'm saying

00:18:16.200 well vish i think i think you're onto something because there's something to say about a division

00:18:20.060 of labor right if you're able to do the things you're good at and that you like to do you know

00:18:24.660 maybe it's not in the kitchen i will say matt cooks 90 of the meat maybe 95 wow that's that

00:18:31.340 that okay yeah well he he loves to cook it you know it decompresses him he is better at it he's been

00:18:39.600 doing it for a longer time i like to bake sometimes but i'll be in charge of you know maybe the mocktails

00:18:44.200 i like to do the laundry i'll do i'll contribute in other ways but it you know it's a division of

00:18:49.040 labor and i don't see that as like i'm you know a submission of different levels but it's it's just

00:18:54.400 contributing things that you as a you know spouse are are are good or you know worse at and having

00:19:00.240 the other person kind of fill in ginger's like it's not submission when i tell you you have to

00:19:04.580 take out the trash well but you know ginger brings up another good ginger brings up another great

00:19:09.740 point a huge reason why so many divorces happen is because of the chores right and how they're

00:19:16.560 divided up shocked by that yes did you know this data yes it's about the chores what's the date on

00:19:22.820 it because i think it's number two i think number one is finances and number two is chores and that's

00:19:28.280 why if you read a lot of these kind of how to be a good spouse books they say don't let your

00:19:32.120 roommate problems become your marriage problems because it's those little things that add up

00:19:36.800 every single day you know it's usually not some big thing that explodes from left field

00:19:40.920 so i know what the thing is that i do around the house that that makes ginger want to murder me

00:19:47.500 what is it i i i can i i can tell i could tell everyone my sin are you ready for this i'm not

00:19:54.980 i leave wet towels anywhere oh my god wait me too no you find a corner you find like a

00:20:02.680 is it paper towels oh no no no no because i do that sometimes i'll just do it and i'll just like

00:20:08.420 leave it no no no ginger ginger lay it out lay it out so he'll take not only bath towels sometimes

00:20:14.280 he'll go and dig out beach towels because they're even bigger and then he'll just find the darkest

00:20:19.220 corner in the coldest room leave a window open and like just just pour it in there and so i'll just

00:20:25.060 be walking around and i have to do kind of my my towel pickup and it's the one thing that you know

00:20:29.140 it's it's uh you know 90 10 80 20 with the person you love him for everything but that's his thing

00:20:34.080 that he will not be able to be trained out of and i'm okay and by the way what what is the one thing

00:20:38.060 you cannot be trained out of love what do you do around the house i do break a lot of glasses

00:20:43.840 but she breaks stuff for what reason are you just clumsiness wet towels around why are you

00:20:49.100 it's my thing it's like uh like cancel and gretel left the kid left the left the breadcrumbs

00:20:55.600 um but yeah so so if you go to our house it's uh shards of glass and wet towels i'm not coming

00:21:01.720 over okay very interesting no but i i like everything you like the man um just in my household

00:21:07.900 my dad was the chef growing up my boyfriend has is a chef i in the kitchen what when she's talking

00:21:14.540 do you do the dishes sometimes it's not so like what so what is what is uh in your skill stack

00:21:21.080 on the trad wife offer i am the entertainment i entertain him while he cooks i'm asking him

00:21:27.960 questions i'm making alexa put on music you know i'm dancing i'm frolicking around you're the vibe

00:21:33.940 setter i am the vibe setter see that's what i bring to the table which is actually if you think about it

00:21:38.660 much harder to do because not everyone has a good vibe i've been around so many that bad bad vibes

00:21:45.440 and like i can't even find an escape and honestly it's not even like doing the dishes you're

00:21:50.200 selling me on this right because because who yeah and you're doing the dishes in a good vibe

00:21:54.800 versus doing them in a bad vibe it makes all the difference you're sort of the vibe setter of the

00:21:58.780 mac gate show and the anchorman show so are you are you buying the primacy on the vibe set yeah 100

00:22:03.660 i think vibe the vibe if you ask me vibe setting is like very important for the man yeah all right

00:22:09.660 ginger can i replace all of my chores at the house with a good vibe set if i prance around

00:22:16.260 if i pick the playlist no you have to do a court like a dance too you have to choreograph the dance

00:22:24.100 you do is it a unique dance you do every night yeah do you want to see it no i'm just no i'm not

00:22:29.700 going to do that to you um no we play mama mia i have forced him to learn the music sing the songs

00:22:35.300 he's straight by the way i'm painting him like he's my gay boyfriend no he's super straight okay he's in

00:22:40.680 law enforcement i promise you um i'm just i'm just setting the vibe okay i just want to make that very

00:22:45.000 clear that i set vibes the vibes are vibing the neighbors love the vibes and um is this what you

00:22:51.200 this sounds a lot like what you do ginger it sounds like when i am doing the dishes and cooking this is

00:22:57.840 you're always like doing vibe setting things and it sounds like from what i've learned from dana

00:23:03.320 i'm not appreciative enough of that trad wife uh performance that you bring to my daily life

00:23:10.260 maybe it's not trad wife maybe it's just the vibe wife so i think i think dana's totally right

00:23:15.240 well also too how many men say that like a dog is their best friend because they come home they're

00:23:19.760 excited to see him like we can do that too we can be excited to see you we can yeah put on the right

00:23:24.940 mood put on the right tunes and then appreciate when you're cooking and uh when matt does the dishes

00:23:29.520 of what she does often i call him the dish daddy so yeah a little encourage me it goes a long way

00:23:34.220 you have many skills wait guys before we before we get too deep um so there was a response to that

00:23:41.280 emily video wow i was like i should have just make this more compact anyways we got long-winded um so

00:23:46.360 there was a response to what emily had to say by another conservative influencer i think she's like

00:23:50.920 gen z-ish like on like the yeah she's on the gen z side her name's sarah we have a sod of it

00:23:55.720 prepare yourself caroline levitt it's undeniable that you're doing a fantastic job as white house

00:24:01.540 press secretary but i think you should quit there's nothing conservative about leaving your baby at

00:24:05.860 home while you work a highly intensive important time-consuming role going back to work when your

00:24:10.480 baby is four days old is a form of neglect babies especially newborns need their mothers and the

00:24:16.880 conservative movement needs to stop pushing this rebranded version of feminist ideology that says

00:24:21.820 women can do both because they can't being a mother especially a mother to newborns is a full-time

00:24:27.700 job everything in life comes with sacrifices and trade-offs especially being a parent what america

00:24:32.120 needs right now is more present mothers we have enough girl bosses already please just go take care

00:24:37.660 of your child wow i have a strong critique for that as someone whose office in all of my time has been

00:24:44.060 run by girl bosses who i value and appreciate to this day that is that is so fake that is so phony

00:24:51.200 caroline levitt is a is a blessing to this nation we are so grateful that her family is able to

00:24:58.440 work together and make sacrifice and you know what the only people who know what's going on inside a

00:25:03.340 family are the people in it and if you don't know you should keep your mouth shut while other people are

00:25:08.020 doing their job and serving the serving the country women can have both if they design it that that dumb

00:25:13.860 chick ought to find herself an ai agent so that she can work smarter not harder and uh while she is so many

00:25:20.760 rungs below caroline levitt on the ladder of life she should offer no perspective on the point ginger

00:25:27.460 your take i think that was very well said and honestly i think caroline levitt's kid is going to

00:25:32.960 grow up to have an amazing perception of women what they can do how they can be accomplished they can

00:25:38.800 you know be in life so i think she had the absolute wrong take on that and if you know caroline levitt and

00:25:45.220 she's very present with her child and every moment she gets so she's being a role model she has a

00:25:50.200 support system and i think that is absolutely the worst take and actually you know what i think this

00:25:55.700 goes back to what you were talking about earlier how some women just there's there's no room for other

00:26:01.860 women to be successful and them you know not feel bad about themselves so of course she's being picked

00:26:07.100 on because she's very successful and being a mother and slaying it as a boss babe so yes i mean

00:26:12.760 she can do it all and i think that's the terrible take by that gen z-er honey i am so grateful you

00:26:17.960 had my back on that because i had a few offerings there that you validated that a lot of they thems

00:26:23.220 are going to be very upset about on twitter when when they see this but uh but uh one final point on

00:26:28.600 this from each of you vish first yeah uh look i again i want to go back to my point that i by the

00:26:34.780 way on the caroline levitt thing she's amazing and totally capable and i've worked with women my whole

00:26:40.880 life mostly until i got into politics and i had men who were my bosses and my teammates well i mean

00:26:47.000 yeah i went one queen named george santos uh but but um yes we love katara katara but i want to just

00:26:55.820 say that i think that a lot of this is coming down to like who's on whose program like i think one

00:27:02.240 person in the relationship like i said most of the for most of history women when married into with men

00:27:08.640 they became the junior partner of the man's enterprise like a farm where and then she would

00:27:12.900 keep the books or something like that and she's still in the home right and still able to raise

00:27:17.880 kids but also maintain business i've never bought into this idea that women uh should be stay at homes

00:27:24.100 and not make money i think most of history with most people that does not reflect and i encourage women

00:27:30.480 who are really great at certain things and certain skills to go and pursue that um but you know also

00:27:36.660 you got to find a man who's on your program if you're the boss babe so i think that that is also

00:27:42.080 part of the equation he's single and dms are open dana final point on your great question oh my gosh

00:27:47.900 it's so hard i'm just gonna go off real quick okay sarah sarah i don't know who you are you look like

00:27:52.660 you were born yesterday so she's like very fresh on the gen z she's like just too new to have an opinion

00:27:58.640 on she's acting like she hasn't seen the reality of working women and stay at home you can do you can do

00:28:05.240 both you just need a little bit of money but it's possible you can do both just imagine caroline

00:28:10.260 levitt hearing this imagine being tapped by president trump you're going to be the white

00:28:13.760 house press secretary a prestigious role and then you you go back to trump and you're like actually

00:28:19.320 no thanks i'm going to pass up this once in a lifetime offer um because i i just feel like

00:28:26.500 staying at home and i can't hire someone or have friends i mean she has a support system let's be honest

00:28:31.040 she's able to do it you're not going to want to pass and then as the kid watching your mother grow

00:28:36.480 up in this role how cool is it for that kid to be like my mom was the white house press secretary the

00:28:42.780 youngest white house press secretary how cool she made history and i think maybe maybe sarah's a little

00:28:48.660 bit jealous but the funny part about what she's saying because she came in so hot and so strong

00:28:53.440 is that she is at home makeup on doing podcasting why isn't she a stay-at-home mom that's a that's a

00:29:02.720 grift that's what we call a grift harsh hot take ginger thank you so much for being on the program

00:29:08.980 we appreciate you appreciate your perspective thank you for having my back thanks for having me all

00:29:14.620 all right see you all right vish your big question of the week all right what's caught my eye because

00:29:21.400 i've flown out of this airport and flown into this airport many times newark airport is having a

00:29:28.920 catastrophic meltdown right now uh that's ongoing and where the officials the airport people and

00:29:37.200 some of our own officials have basically said that this is going to be a problem that last week's

00:29:42.260 deal with it they're dealing with mass cancellations technical outages uh on their radar systems and

00:29:48.860 stuff uh staffing shortages uh you know delays cancellations you name it uh and it is it is the

00:29:56.080 nightmare you know uh trip from hell from any per for any person that that has a flight that they're

00:30:02.720 expecting to take out of newark and my question is is flying today or the way flying and uh air travel

00:30:11.680 is set up today totally outdated and onerous and cumbersome to the point that we need to like

00:30:17.420 reimagine the system all right and my basis is is that i want my flying cars especially since after the

00:30:24.460 pandemic uh the people want i think more individualized transport where they're not sharing

00:30:30.540 air in a tube with a hundred people let's say uh and and the airline industry being one of the most

00:30:37.460 regulated in america right the airline industry is what we point at when we say oh this is the reason

00:30:44.480 why we don't have uh you know mass train transit and bullet trains in this country because you could

00:30:49.800 get on a plane and be in la from new york in five hours right i think that air travel today has just

00:30:58.160 become onerous too time consuming i would rather prefer to drive door to door from dc to new york

00:31:06.480 than get on a flight because i actually think it takes longer but from door to door to get to try

00:31:12.420 and take a flight to new york from dc than it is i'll race you i i will beat you and i i've done i've

00:31:18.840 definitely done it before you would do the drive from dc to new york i've done it over a thousand times

00:31:23.460 just because of how much i i hate flying especially because you think about it it takes on what you're

00:31:30.080 playing so wait wait wait so your your critique here on this news story is not a critique of this

00:31:35.600 just being so utterly new work well i mean yeah you're you're using it as a platform to critique

00:31:41.640 air travel broadly yeah absolutely because just to me and i'll let you get back on your point to me this

00:31:47.440 is just so new work that that nothing works everything's kind of out like they're still using

00:31:52.980 copper wires and there's a sneaky little soft underbelly of the swamp of government in local

00:32:00.000 government around these airport authorities you look at these major metropolitan airports

00:32:04.940 miami orlando newark laguardia o'hare they are multi-billion dollar annual budgets huge construction

00:32:15.680 contracts luggage contracts security contracts and it is governed by a board of unelected people

00:32:22.380 who are typically connected to the donor class and the the um group of interests who are drawing those

00:32:31.160 resources into their own bank accounts and anytime you go shine a light on a lot of these airport boards

00:32:39.760 there is grimy and grisly corruption going on and and by the way if you speak out about that it's like

00:32:46.500 you know your body's going to be found underneath runway number 17 that they're constructing right now

00:32:51.880 jimmy hoffa style and when you look at why these delays are happening in newark it's not just like

00:32:58.080 the weather it's that they have delayed their the key technical upgrades and there was an event that

00:33:05.140 occurred where for you know some term of time connection was down with the controllers which is

00:33:12.460 and that that is devastating that is horrific but thereafter a bunch of the controllers had to

00:33:19.540 take time off from work for the mental stress of them not being connected that no florida man would

00:33:26.640 do this florida man would be back at work the next day and so to me uh you know that is a core issue here

00:33:33.960 not air look you want to complain about air travel airplanes take off and land like every day in this country

00:33:39.580 a tube of metal flies through the air and you've got a pretty good chance to take off and land and we

00:33:45.140 complain if wi-fi is out for 15 minutes but that's not the complaints these days anymore the tarmac delays

00:33:52.140 the the the uh first of all the staff the other passengers the unruly passengers themselves

00:33:58.660 you've been flying spirit no i have not been flying spirit but nonetheless that's it's not like

00:34:04.200 that that can't happen what's your what's your worst unruly passenger short story then we're getting

00:34:08.640 well my worst unruly passenger story is like the kid like okay here's all of it first of all travel

00:34:15.740 there was a well i had i had the unfortunate experience of sitting in the in between two

00:34:20.960 passengers once one of them had a baby and the other one how dare they well i mean look at the i

00:34:27.440 don't i don't mind the baby as long as it doesn't cry but if it's a whale in then we're throwing that

00:34:32.180 thing out and it's next to me yeah i got a problem with i'm sure you never cried as a baby

00:34:36.340 actually my father i cried last week in the production suite so my father said i came out

00:34:41.880 not crying but that's that's a whole other story anyway um one had a baby crying right and the other

00:34:50.320 was eating something that she brought from outside the plane for the fish it was like lo mein or

00:34:56.880 something like that and guess what goes through a little turbulence the lo mein ends up on me and my

00:35:02.980 sneakers i lost it better than the baby landing i mean at that point i thought the baby was

00:35:10.740 i was mute i couldn't hear it i was so livid that the lo mein got on my sneakers well but people don't

00:35:18.200 understand vicious most prized possessions are his sneakers so was it was it a clutch sneaker pair

00:35:23.400 yeah it was a clutch sneaker pair that i was with that i was wearing but uh and i had to throw them

00:35:28.740 out they were my my my thunder four okay so your your take is we've we've we've brought a low quality

00:35:34.780 customer experience to airplaning so much so that they are they are taking themselves it's it's the

00:35:40.460 paradigm it's like it's not that how do i make every passenger's experience more first class it's

00:35:46.360 more like the next step is we're going to introduce standing room only for a five hour flight

00:35:51.480 the greyhound bus in the sky what do you think dan alexa has air travel degraded i want to go off what

00:35:56.420 he said because i want to do you one even better about being trapped in a sandwich i was in between

00:36:01.280 a married couple and they were working so here i am i'm trying to sleep i i don't watch anything on

00:36:07.700 the plane because i actually genuinely try to sleep even though that's that's a heart in itself and you

00:36:12.580 know they're they're like doing this whole number here where they're like like imagine you're me and

00:36:17.880 then did yeah and then you're like hey did you get the numbers for like season two quarter or

00:36:23.080 whatever and i'm like i mean do you sir do you want to just switch with me like your your wife

00:36:28.600 is like asking no they didn't want the middle seat i'm like but you're like hunching over me and i'm

00:36:33.300 just like like you know what i mean i want to just chill out like you're having a full-blown

00:36:37.680 conversation i would have joined it you would have joined it yeah i would have just started throwing

00:36:41.260 out numbers that's how you would have got them to stop yeah yeah because obviously you know the

00:36:47.200 booking decision that was made right there was they were like well neither of us want to sit in

00:36:51.460 the middle seat and so if we book these others there's a chance that the middle will be empty

00:36:55.400 but then when the middle is full you obviously the protocol dictates that you give that person

00:37:02.300 either the aisle or the window seat because you will you let the married couple sit together

00:37:06.700 that that's more hell than a baby because it's ongoing conversation for four hours by the way

00:37:10.740 it was southwest so there was no booking you just like go in there and wait that's even worse

00:37:14.940 it was open seated you buried the lead they made the conscious decision of you know taking the two

00:37:21.400 best spots and leaving me in the middle to suffer so is it my like white privilege that i hate the

00:37:26.760 southwest boarding system where like you've got to get there in advance you got to stand in the line

00:37:32.020 and like if you booked your ticket late your c42 and you're you know such a that's the standing

00:37:37.040 room only version like yeah that's how do we save it all right all right we got deregulate deregulate

00:37:43.680 flying in this country we need we need to teleport we need to self-teleport well i mean that should be

00:37:48.040 on the table too but at least flying cars the jetsons is like 70 years old at this point i thought i'd be

00:37:52.960 having it by the 2000s we're like 25 years into the 21st century and we still don't have flying cars i want

00:37:59.000 my flying let me just say individual flying aircraft okay fine there's a lot of things people

00:38:03.280 i i took notes on this vish you're gonna like that i actually took notes on this so i i was trying to

00:38:09.120 tune into what was going on in newark because i've never been there but so you've never been in newark

00:38:14.840 no thank god um one thing i don't blame the the air traffic control towers they're about 40 years old

00:38:21.000 so the question of outdated yes hard yes you know it needs 40 years old is not outdated well

00:38:26.860 that a little harsh yeah but also take it easy sean sean duffy uh was being interviewed about all

00:38:33.960 this because i think he got some hit back that while all this was going down i guess he was i

00:38:38.780 don't know posting about eating tacos or something and i'm like well what's wrong with that it's going

00:38:43.400 to be yesterday was tuesday naturally it's taco tuesday yeah and also like he didn't know this was

00:38:48.680 going to go down don't blame this man let him enjoy his tacos then we can talk about air traffic

00:38:52.980 control okay he doesn't have a he doesn't have a crystal ball he can't foresee what's going to

00:38:58.040 happen i just think this is i i completely reject your premise that this is a broad problem with air

00:39:05.240 transit i think this is uniquely newark's trashiness which you would appreciate more if you'd ever been

00:39:10.960 there i am banned from newark new jersey you're banned because you asked me to go give a speech

00:39:18.880 during covid in 2021 to the new york young republican club and this happened the new york young

00:39:25.620 republican club that allegedly snuck into jersey city last night to hold a gala fundraiser after

00:39:33.800 they couldn't find a venue in their own city due to the pandemic so from the videos on social media

00:39:40.760 and certainly this picture there is no obvious attempt to enforce social distancing or face masks

00:39:47.340 that guy in the middle the tall handsome fella in the gray suit that is representative matt putz

00:39:53.160 sorry matt gates uh and based on his past performances it is obvious being a knucklehead is not beyond the

00:40:01.020 pale for him that's matt again earlier this year kind of a scene out of dr strange love uh what a fool

00:40:09.260 uh he and they should be ashamed of themselves he is not welcome i hope you're watching matt you are not

00:40:15.040 welcome in new jersey and frankly i don't ever want you back in this state look we've all seen how

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00:41:23.540 got my big question that i want to ask and it is about kind of where we stand at this moment in the trump

00:41:28.800 presidency because i have talked to a lot of my maga friends who were like oh fauci's not in jail yet

00:41:36.980 liz cheney hasn't been strung up by her entrails a bunch of faceless bureaucrats haven't been frog

00:41:42.920 marched on their way to indictments or cells and you know this isn't what we wanted and i'm sitting

00:41:48.020 there like are you kidding me donald trump is the president of the united states he is totally in his

00:41:53.920 bag right now he has sealed the border he has got corporate america so afraid that something might see

00:42:00.720 say dei on it that they are promoting you know uh people based on merit to an extent that we haven't

00:42:07.820 seen in the last 10 years our military is no longer run by a bunch of generals and dresses anymore and

00:42:14.000 you have a resetting of the global economy that we have needed for so long and because of the unique

00:42:21.700 circumstances that resulted in donald trump becoming the president having four years of runway not having

00:42:27.940 a democrat congress impeaching him not having a democrat senate blocking most of his nominees

00:42:32.980 and now uh it might not be all of the real estate you wanted to acquire but from this guy who's been

00:42:40.320 around the sun 43 times i can tell you if this isn't what you were hoping for and praying for and knocking

00:42:46.580 on doors for and making phone calls for you're going to be real disappointed with politics in life

00:42:51.060 sometimes you don't get it all this is getting uh more than we ever have at any of my time in

00:42:57.080 activism or public service so i want to know are you black pilled or white pilled dana alexa i have

00:43:01.880 no idea what white pilled is but we're also going to make alcatraz great again we're going to revamp

00:43:06.780 the prison system but no like are you are are you as you look at the trump presidency or do you look at

00:43:14.360 it with a sense that the glass is half full or half empty the presidency yeah like oh it's the best

00:43:20.600 it's the best in my lifetime trump 2.0 has been so much better than trump he's so much more outspoken

00:43:26.440 he doesn't care as much about what the media thinks i think he doesn't want to admit it but

00:43:30.480 i think he cared a little bit now it's just like nothing's off the table i you like unchained trump

00:43:36.760 i love it and i and i actually encourage the tweeting but see my dad he says in his first term

00:43:42.600 you know he was playing it wrong and he was ruffling too many feathers i thought it was great

00:43:47.760 because trump is a mastermind and he's a mastermind at social media i don't even think the alcatraz

00:43:54.240 thing was real i think he did it to troll but the media runs headway with it and they don't look

00:44:00.700 back and then you know next thing you know there's the cnn panel of six people like flipping out short

00:44:06.480 circuiting about oh my god is alcatraz going to revamp again and um no we don't know whether to

00:44:11.760 have the stakeout at alcatraz or greenland we don't know what's going to be invaded first he controlled it's

00:44:17.320 a mind control yeah we went from cnn staking out roger stone's house waiting for the swat raid to

00:44:22.500 figuring out whether or not we get alcatraz greenland or panama next vish are you black

00:44:26.800 pilled or white pilled i am 95 white pilled with a five percent caveat okay i am okay there is so

00:44:34.760 much to be white pilled about first of all the overton window is shifting at light speed at the

00:44:40.540 moment we could not have asked for something better in america you wouldn't have got that with a doug

00:44:45.900 burgom or uh tim scott or nicky haley or even a ron de santis correct so that is that is a huge help

00:44:53.640 uh and every second that happens major win for us that's one two just the terms of appointments and

00:45:00.440 the the the not what just trump but everybody underneath him the kind of people we're getting

00:45:06.220 in the credentials that they'll be able to operate in the political system in the future with is just

00:45:12.140 that is you can't put a price on that and so that is also something that i'm that i'm white pilled

00:45:16.800 about uh and then um you know in terms of policy speed the muzzle velocity of this presidency right

00:45:23.580 every day is dumping executive orders and keeping the media on their toes or distracted with with

00:45:30.020 shiny objects i love that that pace setting because a future president republican president might need to

00:45:36.640 also essentially promise that they can move at the speed that they've seen is now possible right in

00:45:42.400 a presidency that's also good so there are all these sort of uh actions and things that are happening

00:45:48.560 and the second and third order effects of that that are just incredible priceless and that's what

00:45:53.860 makes me 95 percent white pilled on the presidency but the five percent is and to to the point that you

00:46:01.620 brought up where oh cnn was staking out watching roger stone get swatted and frog marched out of

00:46:07.800 his home right and let's not let we you know unless we not forget mar-a-lago was raided where these

00:46:13.820 agents were sniffing the first lady's panties or we don't know what they were doing but they were

00:46:19.460 doing something that melania was not very happy with and she makes it evident that she wasn't happy

00:46:24.780 with that and so there's a certain kind of desire when you're raided it's intrusive right fish absolutely

00:46:32.940 i know firsthand uh highly intrusive um but and you but the punitive aspect of the presidency

00:46:41.300 is something i think that not just the people or the base want to see but it's also the deterrence

00:46:49.820 factors that we need to set a judge it's not putative enough for you no well there's listen

00:46:56.120 man there are people who have done us bad the way they go after our people we have but it's that

00:47:02.020 some deterrence is like what we were talking about this week on the program about india and pakistan

00:47:06.320 how does it not just become uh infinitely escalatory we lock up some of them they lock up some of us

00:47:13.840 we go back and forth is that really the world in which you want to get power you and i are going to

00:47:18.280 need to go to a different jurisdiction no 100 but so you have to force detente somehow right you have

00:47:24.120 to eventually appomattox has to happen correct right and don't you think trump is uniquely positioned

00:47:29.800 to lead that moment i do but but you have to be able to reassure your base that you're on it

00:47:37.880 right and i don't think those signals are coming through right now and so that's that is what i think

00:47:43.400 is that's totally five five percent what do you mean like play by the rules i'm confused no it's

00:47:48.340 not that play by the rules it's like these guys have done it have literally tried to put so many

00:47:53.020 and have successfully put so many people of our people in jail i walked steve bannon in prison

00:47:57.640 right and so like that we we don't see our capability to do that to them and i think that our

00:48:06.240 our our base just wants to see if we can do it yeah if we can but that's a that's a dangerous

00:48:11.560 lust to indulge my friend okay dangerous lust what's what's the what deterrence factors can we

00:48:18.140 do you think are are going to work in lieu of that so they stop putting our people in jail even when

00:48:24.400 they do get power which they eventually will pardon well i i think that the the um restorative efforts

00:48:31.500 like pardons are are one component to show that they don't just get the ability to dictate those

00:48:36.760 outcomes uh and i think that following the facts in the law appropriately to appropriate actions like

00:48:43.860 the arresting of this judge that was human trafficking somebody through her chambers and away from federal

00:48:49.120 law enforcement is the right way but but to just be banging our chests wanting scalps is not uh is not

00:48:56.420 something that's going to drive people by the way that's part of the reason by the way that people from

00:49:00.400 the left left that was the whole point they saw how crazy their party was getting i mean remember

00:49:06.000 when biden five minutes before actually handing things over did he did that preemptive pardon of

00:49:10.680 fauci right and that was like one of the people i i wish to see in prison more than anybody that pissed

00:49:16.920 everybody i think that pissed a lot of actually people on the left i know some people they're big

00:49:20.720 animal lovers and they were like what the heck well that's the thing again this part then okay if you

00:49:24.860 don't take the this aspect that i'm talking about these punitive measures and you say oh well

00:49:29.140 there's the pardon aspect of this too well then is that is that the next is that the new paradigm

00:49:34.180 every president five minutes before their way out essentially pardons preemptive pardons all his

00:49:40.520 operatives and all his apparatus underneath what does that open the door to that opens the door to like

00:49:46.740 i don't know future president ocasio cortez pardoning ms13 member kilmar abrigo garcia out of a

00:49:53.320 virtue and how do we deter that but that is all the time we have a fascinating discussion with the

00:49:58.940 both of you thank you to my wife ginger for joining us on this program remember you can watch the matt

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The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz - May 08, 2025

The Anchormen Show with Matt Gaetz ｜ White Pilled

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