The Anthony Cumia Show - August 03, 2026


Adam Swart: Different Approaches To The Freedom Of Assembly


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00:01:35.440 Going to change gears for a little bit here and talk to Adam Swart.
00:01:39.440 Adam Swart is the CEO of Crowds On Demand.
00:01:42.540 I swear to you, I thought this was a conspiracy.
00:01:45.460 I thought this was one of those conspiratorial things that people talked about, but it wasn't really happening when you saw these protests that were supposed to be grassroots protests, and people said, oh, they're paid.
00:01:58.240 Those are paid people that they get from a company.
00:02:01.860 And I'm like, that can't exist.
00:02:03.840 It does.
00:02:04.900 And we're speaking with Adam Swart from Crowds on Demand.
00:02:08.880 Adam, what's up, man?
00:02:10.500 Hey, good evening, Anthony.
00:02:11.940 It's great to be with you.
00:02:13.180 Well, I understand you were in New York last week, and I'm in New York this week,
00:02:16.920 so I'm just sorry to miss you in person.
00:02:19.660 Yeah, it happens, you know, and then I got stuck up there for a while,
00:02:23.540 but that's a whole other story, a whole other story, Adam.
00:02:26.800 I want to get into this because, like I said,
00:02:30.480 I thought this was something people said to discredit a protest
00:02:36.460 or an organization that had gotten a crowd that had gotten a protest a crowd of people up and
00:02:43.880 they said oh they're paid they get paid they got a service that sends people out this is the real
00:02:50.500 thing obviously you're the you're the ceo of crowds on demand uh what is this about how does
00:02:55.260 this actually work this is peaceful lawful advocacy i like to think of myself as more of
00:03:02.240 a publicist than a paid protest organizer because what i do is organize protests that are intended
00:03:09.400 to get publicity for a business get publicity for a cause raise awareness about somebody who's
00:03:14.920 engaged in wrongdoing the purpose of a protest is not a plebiscite anthony it's not to say
00:03:22.020 300 people are out on one side and 50 are on the other side so people are six to one in favor of
00:03:29.080 the issue that's not how protesting work the the pro the purpose of a protest is to get attention
00:03:35.180 for your cause whether it's in the media social media or even just among the people who you're
00:03:40.720 focused on in in person right so so that's the goal and crowds on demand we only do things the
00:03:46.880 right way we do things lawfully we do things peacefully so when you see kind of these crazy
00:03:52.000 riots or whatever and uh people blocking roads i just want your listeners to know that has nothing
00:03:57.140 to do with with me and well how would you know adam how would you know if you're you're getting
00:04:03.720 people together for somebody that it wants a crowd on demand that they aren't uh being used on some
00:04:10.920 of these you know i will say basically liberal protests that tend to pop off and get a little
00:04:16.120 violent and uh vandalism happens maybe some arson and assaults how do you know as the ceo that uh
00:04:23.360 these people aren't being supplied by uh your company so i do two things i vet my clients
00:04:30.320 and i vet the people who work for us right and who protest for us so i vet my clients and part
00:04:35.980 of that is to make sure that the budget fee uh fits the goal but it's also to ensure that what
00:04:42.840 we're doing is lawful and respectful and peaceful and that those objectives match right now the
00:04:49.180 politics is a is a whole different side and we can get into that if you want but the uh first
00:04:54.480 of all is to make sure that it's a lawful peaceful thing and then the second part is like look we
00:04:58.520 don't want to put our people even if what we're doing is a lawful peaceful thing in a position
00:05:03.660 of danger so let's just say you have antifa versus proud boys and then for some reason someone wants
00:05:09.140 us to do a protest in the middle of that i would respectfully decline that not because we're doing
00:05:13.940 anything wrong but that's just inherently going to become a very tense situation it's going to be a
00:05:18.000 And I don't want a part of it, right?
00:05:19.660 So additionally, Anthony, though, it's important to know that we also vet our people.
00:05:24.260 So we have like a 20-minute sit-down or a Zoom or a phone call with everybody who participates before every event.
00:05:31.140 So even if you've worked with us on one or two events, if you're going to go to a third event, we still have that call.
00:05:36.880 And it's to make sure, number one, you support the cause, and number two, that we reaffirm the commitment to peaceful, respectful advocacy.
00:05:45.640 I've always found, my mom always used to tell me that you're always better, you are a much better advocate for yourself when you are friendly and funny than when you are mean and rude, because that just turns people off.
00:05:57.780 I'm sure many of your listeners in New York City saw that viral video of this sort of hippie blocking the street, and there's a single African-American woman trying to get to work, and she's like, I'm trying to get to work, you know, otherwise I can't pay my bills.
00:06:11.160 And he's like, he doesn't really care, you know what I mean?
00:06:14.120 And that turns that woman off, right?
00:06:17.340 So I don't think that type of protesting is even effective, even if it were lawful.
00:06:21.980 Yeah, but quite frankly, I don't think a lot of people that are protesting in that way care if they're turning people off.
00:06:29.020 I think they're there for the violence and to make news and whatnot.
00:06:34.820 out i gotta ask you this what do you uh when did it go to being uh like political demonstrations
00:06:41.860 because you said this is also a publicity thing for a company or you know a big celebrity event
00:06:48.300 i guess you'd want a lot of people out front of a club that's opening when did it take this turn
00:06:54.460 to to start political demonstrations uh calling you up and saying hey uh we need some people
00:07:01.660 So I've been doing this for almost 15 years now.
00:07:04.520 We started the business in 2012, right?
00:07:07.580 So I started this business when I was still in college.
00:07:10.740 And look, we get a lot of asks for different things.
00:07:14.340 Now, one misnomer about us is that we primarily focus on national politics.
00:07:19.140 That's not 100% true.
00:07:20.940 A lot of what we do is dealing with kind of big business disputes, investor disputes,
00:07:26.180 you know business to business raising awareness about bad practices or totally non-political
00:07:31.680 things i mean we ran the delete facebook campaign raising awareness about how facebook misuses your
00:07:37.680 data you know turns americans against each other you know even fomented you know ethnic and racial
00:07:43.880 hatred for money right so that has nothing to do with politics we had republicans we had democrats
00:07:48.920 we had people who aren't even political because everybody sort of agrees on this i mean we've
00:07:52.940 taking on anti-LGBT discrimination in the pharmaceutical and insurance industry.
00:07:58.680 So these are not political things that really have anything to do with Republican point of view,
00:08:03.620 Democratic point of view.
00:08:04.660 And that's honestly how I like it, because, Anthony, I'm an independent.
00:08:07.540 I don't subscribe to either political party.
00:08:09.920 I don't owe either of them anything, by the way.
00:08:12.820 So I would rather do campaigns that don't fit into that box,
00:08:17.220 where we're doing nuanced campaigns that neither of the two big sides aren't going to take on.
00:08:24.140 Yeah. Adam, let me ask you this, too.
00:08:27.240 Doesn't it seem a little, at the very least, insincere if somebody is at an event,
00:08:34.100 whether it's political or not, that it's almost a little phony,
00:08:41.500 that they're not there for the reason that people would think they're there?
00:08:45.540 It's kind of show-busy.
00:08:47.220 so do we have to disclose all of our intentions now right so if you go to a party should you put
00:08:53.740 on your uh your little lapel that i'm i'm actually at this party to get laid i i said i'm going to 0.96
00:08:58.780 my friend's birthday party but the real reason is i hope there's a hot girl that i'm gonna i get
00:09:04.080 what you add i mean do we have to be obvious about all of our i mean we i get what you mean
00:09:08.860 we're humans here i get what you mean but especially in in the political you know forum
00:09:14.360 you'd like to think these people are out there because they're so passionate about the cause
00:09:20.080 that they profess to be and we vet people for that now what i always like to say uh glibness
00:09:26.000 aside is that what that what we do is we come and say people enough to get them out there and
00:09:32.540 actually like as you know people on the right have often found this compelling because a lot
00:09:37.460 of times if you have a trust fund if you're retired you're a college professor you have as
00:09:42.080 much time as you want to go protest but if you work a traditional kind of job or an hourly kind
00:09:47.200 of job and you have kids you actually rely on us being able to kind of compensate you for your time
00:09:53.280 or you wouldn't really have the ability to show up because the opportunity cost would be too high so
00:09:58.020 we actually facilitate people's participation in causes that they actually believe in so i actually
00:10:03.640 feel like it actually helps the sincerity i mean just as like a fun historical fact you know in
00:10:09.580 the united kingdom members of parliament didn't even get paid for their service until 1910 i think
00:10:15.520 it was so what happened is the people who were members of parliament were rich guys there to
00:10:22.080 kind of bolster the interests of the landed gentry right so to me i feel like what i do and
00:10:28.640 and i don't want to sound publishers but i feel like i actually help democratize protests by
00:10:32.880 actually giving or people who wouldn't otherwise have that chance the opportunity to kind of go
00:10:38.100 out like let's just say it's a right pro police rally right a lot of those people wouldn't show
00:10:43.220 up right just as a fun fact in la um there was a this like absolutely crazy leftist movement
00:10:50.340 that was opposed to a bill that would stop sex offenders from camping near elementary schools
00:10:57.620 right and i don't know anybody on the left or the right or anyone who would think it's a good idea
00:11:02.860 for sex offenders to camp near elementary schools and yet there were 300 far left protesters that
00:11:08.760 stormed city hall guess how many people were at city hall on the side of passing the bill no one
00:11:14.260 why because it's self-evident that that should be there but it's not anthony and for ordinary
00:11:19.700 common sense causes to prevail you need people to show up and we help the common sense people turn
00:11:25.540 out now that this brings up a good point with that uh that you what you just said do you do
00:11:31.200 you turn down organizations that are looking for uh people all the time all the time i mean sometimes
00:11:38.240 it's simple it's for as simple as budgetary reasons but also with if if i'm not aligned
00:11:43.740 now just to be clear i don't have to be a hundred percent agreed on the message right right right i
00:11:50.500 I don't know whether you agree with all the advertisers on WABC.
00:11:55.200 I love them all, Adam.
00:11:56.660 I love them all.
00:11:58.460 I use them all.
00:11:59.700 I love the anti-texting by driving one.
00:12:01.800 I love that one.
00:12:02.820 I would love to work with them, by the way, if they're listening.
00:12:05.820 I hate texting and driving.
00:12:07.420 I hate it, too.
00:12:08.200 Never do it.
00:12:08.900 But so I would look at it as think of whatever WABC's standards are for advertisers.
00:12:16.000 WBC doesn't have to 100% agree, but I'd imagine Mr., I can't even say the name,
00:12:22.800 Kat Simaitis would have to not find it completely repulsive for him to take that advantage.
00:12:29.460 Right. I got you. I got you. No, it's business. Business is business, Adam. I got you.
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00:14:01.700 And here's the most interesting part of what's going on in your world, Adam, is that you are looking for some type of oversight here when it comes to who is financing these groups.
00:14:16.380 Like if somebody comes to you and needs some people for whatever it may be, that people should know where that money is coming from.
00:14:26.040 And this sounds like a good thing.
00:14:27.860 This sounds like something that we need transparency in, because there's plenty of speculation that some pretty nefarious people and groups are funding some of these get-togethers.
00:14:38.400 Yeah, and there were, and I would name them right now, but I don't want to get sued, so I won't, because it would be speculative.
00:14:44.260 But the thing is that, yes, and what we need is the Transparency in Political Demonstrations Act.
00:14:49.600 It's something I've introduced in Congress, and of course, Congress loves transparency, which is why they're going to pass it tomorrow.
00:14:56.020 I'm just kidding.
00:14:56.600 Yeah, of course.
00:14:57.520 But they are unfortunately installed, but what we want is, I want to know for any large demonstration, so over 500 people, so it's not going to restrict your ordinary person who's organizing 10 of their friends, but large demonstrations with 500 or more people, I want all the donors from top to bottom so that I want to see the whole chain, and then I want all the vendors from top to bottom.
00:15:21.280 I want to see the whole chain, right?
00:15:23.020 So I want to know everybody gets a paycheck, and I want to know everyone who writes that check.
00:15:27.300 And what that's going to help us do is, number one, it's going to give us transparency,
00:15:31.480 but number two, I think it's going to help the American people understand that any rally that you see
00:15:36.100 that's big enough to get on TV and be kind of widely covered in the media
00:15:41.100 and therefore make a big national political difference is funded by big interests on the right or on the left,
00:15:47.960 whether it's Adelson, whether it's Hoffman, whether it's Laureen Powell Jobs, whoever it is, Soros,
00:15:54.140 whoever those people are, the biggest donors, these are the people who are funding this stuff.
00:15:59.800 And they're not always funding it directly, but they're often sort of, in some respect, providing those resources.
00:16:08.060 It's very rare that a company asks the government for oversight or restrictions or stuff like that.
00:16:15.120 uh is this is this potentially damaging to your bottom line and if so why would you do it
00:16:22.360 we'll see some people might think that but i actually think that once we once people actually
00:16:27.380 understand that every protest is bought and paid for then i think we'll we'll they'll better
00:16:33.040 understand it like the super bowl ad right like when you go to see a super bowl ad you don't think
00:16:37.540 oh oh that's just a bunch of genuine people of people that just came up and the ad just
00:16:42.740 materialized right you know that was pepsi that was dunkin donuts that was you know go daddy
00:16:48.500 right that 10 million 20 million to make that happen right no it could be a good ad in which
00:16:54.880 case maybe you buy the product it could be a crappy ad in which i think i think you're jaded
00:16:59.900 here though adam because i don't think a lot of people know that a lot of these protests are 0.97
00:17:04.700 bought and paid for if you say that you sound very cynical you know very uh kind of black
00:17:10.820 killed but i think a lot of people are still under the impression that when they see people
00:17:15.780 protesting they sincerely are very passionate about the cause oh i think they are i think i
00:17:21.920 don't think those things are mutually exclusive i think someone could be getting compensated
00:17:25.900 and be and be uh and be compensated uh compensated just as i mean they compensate you for doing the
00:17:32.100 show you are an extremely passionate person in your in your work i've listened i listened to a
00:17:36.920 little bit of your radio and i assume you get paid i don't know what you get paid but you you're not
00:17:41.460 enough adam not enough can i get a crowd of people to get in front of uh wabc radio and uh
00:17:47.940 carry signs for you more money for anthony you know anthony i actually you know what would work
00:17:54.060 better for that is if we had people out there demanding that you be canceled for being too
00:17:59.180 oh right the old switcheroo well i've had that before i've had that before it's not fun so
00:18:06.960 i think i'll just stick we'll we'll just uh call it even then okay yeah that sounds good
00:18:13.720 so how is this uh progressing are you getting any uh feedback from uh the government as far as
00:18:23.520 looking into this first they're in the stage of ignoring what i'm hoping is that this gets
00:18:28.660 enough media coverage where it becomes unignorable and that is what this really requires is it needs
00:18:35.740 to get enough coverage where it becomes unignorable and then they can't just sort of like say oh well
00:18:41.300 it's in committee oh we're thinking about it or or throw various procedural objections toward it so
00:18:46.660 that's what we that's what we need because i and by the way i don't think i've myself as jaded
00:18:52.300 because maybe i'm so jaded that i i'm a very optimistic person and i i really believe in
00:18:57.680 this country but we're a capitalist country we always have been and that's a beautiful thing
00:19:01.660 but those with money from the railroad barons to the you know lumber barons like all the barons of
00:19:08.400 of industry have always had outsized influence uh over yeah i mean you think you think that and by
00:19:14.480 the way so it's not new i mean the government had a hand in the civil rights movement big and big
00:19:19.400 donors were involved in the the tea party and then the gay rights and and there were there was a lot
00:19:24.840 of genuine people involved in the gay rights movement. There were a lot of genuine people
00:19:28.460 involved in the Tea Party. So I think that what it's important that your listeners understand is
00:19:33.160 that the fact that there's money behind a movement and there are people being paid
00:19:37.160 is actually a necessary part of getting public consciousness toward a movement. I'm sure you
00:19:45.560 and your listeners can think of a lot of amazing causes that should be talked about, but because
00:19:50.720 they've never gotten the funding necessary to be talked about they've basically languished in
00:19:56.720 obscurity and so when you think about the gay rights movement or the tea party or whatever
00:20:01.300 whether you agree with those or not those have a lot of genuine people and like involved MAGA for
00:20:06.580 example but there's a lot of money behind it too and I don't think those things actually negate
00:20:11.900 each other well this is a really uh amazing thing i think you turned down 20 million dollars
00:20:21.060 to provide demonstrations for the good trouble lives on uh protests this seems to be some type
00:20:28.140 of civil rights protest that was going on um about a year ago or so no it was this was it was about a
00:20:36.240 year ago but it wasn't a it was uh it was kind of a liberal kind of anti-trump movement and by the
00:20:41.800 I'm not a pro-Trumper either.
00:20:44.600 I'm very independent. 0.99
00:20:46.260 I just didn't think it was going to be effective.
00:20:47.800 I just want to be clear so that people don't think I'm more magnanimous than I am.
00:20:51.260 There wasn't $20 million in my bank account tax-free.
00:20:55.300 It was $20 million in revenue against which there would be a bunch of these protests.
00:21:00.120 So I just want people to understand that I didn't turn down $20 million tax-free in my bank account.
00:21:05.720 I mean, that would have been a different conclusion.
00:21:07.660 That's a hard sell, Adam.
00:21:08.700 A lot of people hear that and go, eh, I never get the opportunity to turn down $20 million no matter what it looks like.
00:21:15.720 But I get you.
00:21:16.760 I get you.
00:21:17.400 Okay.
00:21:17.980 But why did you turn it down?
00:21:21.160 So I think the thing with that is it wasn't going to be effective.
00:21:24.860 It was basically the same group of people.
00:21:27.560 I mean, you know they say insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, right, which in and of itself is an overused quote.
00:21:36.140 But the reality is that's what it was. It's like, okay, if you're going to oppose Trump, right, you don't come at this with the same group of people who were at the Pussyhat riots, who were at – or not riots, Pussyhat events, right, and who were at all these BLM, whatever, and it's like, okay, you're turning out the same people.
00:21:56.900 Well, that's just going to have the same result, right?
00:21:59.600 What you need to do, I always tell my clients this in any kind of thing, is you want to engage in asymmetric PR, right?
00:22:08.200 So if you come after the right, you want to come after the right from the right.
00:22:12.240 If you want to come after the left, you come after the left from the left because that's far more effective.
00:22:17.380 Right, right.
00:22:18.000 You never take on the right from the left.
00:22:19.960 And my concern with this was you're taking on the right from the left, which actually helps the right.
00:22:24.360 It's similarly to what I said is if somebody said cancel Anthony Cumia because he's too insensitive
00:22:31.780 and we need people who are less insensitive on the radio, right, I don't think that would work.
00:22:36.620 You have heard my show.
00:22:38.460 Yeah, I have, I have.
00:22:40.360 You know, and you are who you are, right, and the reality is that wouldn't work, right?
00:22:46.060 So the thing is that you need to come, if you're going to take on the right,
00:22:50.980 You need to take the right on from the right, and similarly, you need to take the left on from the left, right?
00:22:57.560 So if you call a liberal, if you come at a liberal and say, you know, Mayor Mandani, you are a socialist, right?
00:23:04.260 You are anti-business, right?
00:23:05.760 You say, yes, yes, I am anti-business, right?
00:23:08.060 Okay, next question, right?
00:23:09.760 But if you say Mayor Mom Donnie, what you are doing is hurting the Latino community because it's hurting Latinx-owned businesses and you're putting them at risk.
00:23:21.400 Okay, well, that's actually a line of attack that might be damaging to him.
00:23:25.320 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:23:26.340 Right, right.
00:23:26.980 But if you're just saying Mom Donnie is a socialist, right, well, that's not going to work, right?
00:23:31.420 That's not going to work, right.
00:23:32.520 I hear you.
00:23:33.360 Adam, I got to take a quick break.
00:23:36.100 Stick around.
00:23:36.840 We'll have you on for another segment until the top of the hour.
00:23:42.060 We'll be back with more of Adam Swart in a moment.
00:23:46.620 The Anthony Comey Show.
00:23:48.160 We're talking with Adam Swart from Crowds On Demand, the head muckety-muck over there.
00:23:53.720 Adam, I want to ask you, what have you seen in the past, how long you say you've been doing this, 15 years?
00:23:59.180 Almost 15 years, yes.
00:24:00.400 Okay, what have you seen in those 15 years that is the big differences
00:24:05.640 in demonstrations from then until now?
00:24:10.500 The biggest is social media.
00:24:12.540 I mean, of course, social media was around at that time,
00:24:14.940 but the goal that clients would come in with that time was,
00:24:18.980 I want to get, you know, if it's a local demonstration,
00:24:20.920 I want to get to local news, bigger demonstration,
00:24:23.600 you want to get on Fox or CNN or whatever.
00:24:25.680 Now there are these sort of micro niche demonstrations that can really go viral within a certain group, maybe, and not just right and left. Sure, there's that, but even beyond there, within specific sects, and go viral there and accomplish a lot without really having national prevalence.
00:24:49.440 Hey, hold on, because that gives me another question here for you.
00:24:54.780 Do you have people that you can put out there for a fee that are influencers that go down with cameras and they can get videos to go viral on their accounts?
00:25:08.720 Yeah, we arranged that.
00:25:10.120 I mean, it's not something we did when we started, but it's something that has been so in demand from our customers that we have started doing that, correct?
00:25:17.800 I can imagine that would be pretty, I don't want to use the word aggressive, because that sounds kind of violent, but I would think those people would want to get that good clip, get that maybe a confrontation, because that's really what goes viral.
00:25:35.820 A peaceful protest ain't getting any eyes on it, Adam.
00:25:40.020 But if you got a little altercation sparking up, a couple of groups throwing things at each other, some tear gas, wouldn't that be something?
00:25:50.020 Well, I kind of disagree.
00:25:51.720 I think what really does well, I mean, sure, that ultimately doesn't advance your movement.
00:25:57.460 So my thing is I'm actually writing a book on this.
00:25:59.800 If you're an anarchist, liberal militant.
00:26:03.780 But I'm not really working with the anarchists.
00:26:05.820 So yes, if you're an anarchist, maybe that's your goal, but I'm generally working with people with a clear, cogent objective.
00:26:14.620 So I like to keep an eye on the prize.
00:26:16.800 So this is one of the big things that actually protest organizers forget, Anthony, is keep your eyes on what the actual objective is.
00:26:25.240 Your objective isn't to get media. Media is a means to an end, hopefully.
00:26:29.740 Media is a means to actually accomplishing objective.
00:26:32.540 okay we want more police funding maybe we want better schools we want more funding for our
00:26:38.640 you know subway system right like what is the actual goal the media is a means is a part of
00:26:45.880 a tactic to get to that goal i'll tell you adam i don't think i've i don't think i've ever seen
00:26:51.140 a demonstration for more police funding but okay continue there needs to be there needs to be well
00:26:57.480 Well, it certainly does.
00:26:59.100 Yeah.
00:27:00.300 Especially in a wonderful place like New York.
00:27:03.240 Well, they need more police funding in New York and almost everywhere else in the country
00:27:07.800 because the number of police officers per capita has declined.
00:27:12.320 And the actual reality of that is that it actually increases the acts of police brutality
00:27:20.240 to have fewer police officers because they're more likely to do something wrong
00:27:24.440 when they're outnumbered than they are when they actually have sufficient staffing.
00:27:28.640 So I actually think that responsible and well-funded police goes together,
00:27:32.840 and it's actually something I'm very interested in taking on.
00:27:36.440 I hear you.
00:27:37.900 Adam, thanks so much, man.
00:27:39.900 Where do you hail from?
00:27:41.200 Where are you out of?
00:27:43.000 So California.
00:27:43.960 I mean, I travel nationwide, and we do a lot of work out in New York,
00:27:50.340 but we work nationwide.
00:27:52.380 and even do select international engagements from time to time.
00:27:57.620 You got anything you want to let the people know before we cut you loose?
00:28:01.780 Well, sure.
00:28:02.460 If you want to check us out, www.crowdsondemand.com.
00:28:05.540 And I said I'm up front with my intentions.
00:28:07.520 So the number one intention of coming on this show was to actually dispel
00:28:11.360 so much of the misinformation that's gone online about my business.
00:28:15.320 So I hope I succeeded in doing that with your audience.
00:28:19.340 Awesome.
00:28:19.700 I can sound like a pretty square guy.
00:28:21.240 Like, you know, straightforward, no agenda, you know, make some money.
00:28:25.960 No one's going to fault anybody for making a dime these days.
00:28:29.640 I like it.
00:28:30.560 Adam Swart, Crowds On Demand.
00:28:33.380 Thanks so much, man.
00:28:35.060 Thank you, Anthony.
00:28:36.140 Yeah, be well and good luck with everything, my friend.
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