The Anthony Cumia Show - August 18, 2025


Anthony Cumia and Sid Rosenberg Fill In for Greg Kelly To Discuss Trump, Ukraine, Kaepernick, and the NFL Clown Show ｜ 08-18-25


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On this episode of the Red Apple Podcast Network's Red Apple Sports Show, host Anthony Cumming is joined by Fox News anchor Kaitlyn McFarlane and former White House Chief Strategist Baccia Unger-Sargan to discuss the latest in the Russia-Ukraine crisis.

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00:01:00.200 It's the Anthony Cumia
00:01:01.980 Show. Entertaining and
00:01:03.760 informative. On the Red Apple Podcast
00:01:06.140 Network.
00:01:08.780 Bill O'Reilly
00:01:09.800 just going over all of
00:01:12.000 President Trump's favorite songs,
00:01:14.280 but he let this one out. I know this
00:01:16.100 for a fact. Guns and Roses
00:01:18.280 November Rain. A
00:01:20.020 President Trump favorite.
00:01:23.840 Ziggy Flicker did an interview with Trump last year,
00:01:34.740 and he said this was his favorite.
00:01:35.860 He picked this one ahead of Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares to You,
00:01:41.180 and O'Reilly had neither one of those songs on that list, so I don't know.
00:01:46.040 Who knows who's right?
00:01:46.840 Something he did not know.
00:01:48.040 I guess he didn't know.
00:01:49.380 I just saw my dear friend Monica Crowley, who I spoke to yesterday,
00:01:53.840 Walking in, Prime Minister Starmer from England,
00:01:58.600 as all these European leaders arrive at the White House with Zelensky,
00:02:03.840 and right before Starmer walked in, I could have sworn I saw Anthony Cumia.
00:02:08.900 Am I a world leader now?
00:02:11.320 Well, I think you're something close.
00:02:12.640 I don't know what you are exactly, but.
00:02:16.120 I don't know.
00:02:17.060 They're all, the world leaders are in Washington, what?
00:02:20.480 trying to make Marco Rubio look bad.
00:02:26.420 I saw that.
00:02:28.860 He was great.
00:02:29.700 He beat the living daylights out of Margaret Brennan
00:02:31.900 on Face the Nation yesterday. 0.97
00:02:33.840 She's a wench, Anthony. 0.99
00:02:36.040 That's what she is. 1.00
00:02:36.840 She's just like every other mainstream media shill for the left. 1.00
00:02:42.380 Everything that's done has to be bad 0.71
00:02:44.760 because it's Rubio or Trump or Republicans.
00:02:48.160 Meanwhile, who the hell was trying to do anything as far as the Russia-Ukraine war
00:02:53.800 under the Biden administration?
00:02:55.960 Was there ever anything but just pumping more money and more weapons into a meat grinder?
00:03:02.440 They're actually trying to do something now.
00:03:05.140 Trump is speaking with the principal players in this whole thing.
00:03:08.180 They didn't even acknowledge Putin under a Biden administration.
00:03:13.340 And it's somehow a bad thing?
00:03:16.100 And what, peace plans are supposed to go very smoothly?
00:03:20.200 You can sit at a table and it's like, well, they said if Trump doesn't get an answer from him in three minutes, he's walking out.
00:03:26.020 Like, they aren't dynamic and change as you're talking. 0.85
00:03:29.960 It's the most ridiculous thing, this mainstream media.
00:03:33.800 They cannot give him one ounce of credit for anything he's trying to do. 0.96
00:03:40.700 You know, that's the bottom line.
00:03:42.640 He did want to cease fire.
00:03:43.960 He didn't get a ceasefire because, as you and I know, Anthony, a ceasefire usually is very short, doesn't work.
00:03:52.300 But when you can get a real peace agreement, which is what he's hopefully on his way to getting now, that is so much better.
00:03:59.460 But all they care about is they met on Friday and nothing got done.
00:04:04.580 But the truth is, and I had two great guests on earlier this morning, Baccia Unger-Sargan, who's on Fox News all the time, as well as KT McFarlane, who worked for four presidents, including Trump, and is also on Fox News all the time.
00:04:17.480 And they both said in that, you know what, they got a lot done on Fadi because the security guarantee coming from Putin, as long as, of course, the Russians hold on to the land they've got anyway, could mean the beginning of peace. 0.68
00:04:32.640 Right, right. Reports are that he said he will put it in writing, he'll give his word, whatever that means as far as Putin's concerned, that he will not pull any more shenanigans over there in Europe.
00:04:46.900 He just wants the, I call it the dumbass region, but Donbass region. 0.87
00:04:54.000 And, you know, it sounds reasonable. 1.00
00:04:57.720 And I'm sure there are people that, especially Ukrainians,
00:05:01.860 pride gets in the way of a lot of these things, too.
00:05:04.320 They don't want to look like they're on the losing end of something.
00:05:07.260 But when you're putting your young men into literally a meat grinder,
00:05:12.520 you really have to look at some compromise here.
00:05:15.220 and people that don't understand the difference between a ceasefire and a peace agreement
00:05:19.340 all you have to have uh been is is married you don't have a ceasefire with your wife
00:05:25.720 they don't hold up you start yelling again yeah you need to sit down and have a peace agreement
00:05:32.420 and again talk about compromise yeah how many times we as married men at some point in my life
00:05:38.140 I was. That peace
00:05:40.260 agreement seems really
00:05:41.960 one-sided, Sid. Always is.
00:05:44.360 I'm married 33 years because
00:05:46.160 I understand it's one-sided.
00:05:48.360 Yeah. And I did have ceasefires
00:05:50.060 early in the marriage. A ceasefire
00:05:52.180 early in the marriage is called 0.77
00:05:53.880 makeup sex. 0.85
00:05:55.780 Yeah, that works too. That's a ceasefire. 0.96
00:05:58.340 But then the peace agreements are called
00:06:00.300 things like the I'm biting my lip
00:06:02.160 accord. Yes.
00:06:03.760 Let me pull my hair out by the roots.
00:06:06.140 you know those kind of things so compromise yeah is a big part of this oh it's huge you know listen
00:06:13.240 i i i you know peter king and i no longer talk because he just doesn't understand and he thinks
00:06:20.340 he's well versed at this and he's a brilliant guy but he just doesn't understand he's going on and
00:06:25.360 on ukraine's not losing the war they're losing the war they're losing land they're losing more men
00:06:30.980 not because they're not courageous in fact you can make the argument they're more courageous
00:06:35.640 more brave and better fighters
00:06:37.700 than the Russians. But there's something
00:06:39.520 called attrition, and 0.72
00:06:41.580 Ukraine cannot compete
00:06:43.480 with Russia. They got more men,
00:06:45.620 they got more, they have more,
00:06:47.820 they got everything more. They got more
00:06:49.460 than Ukraine has on every level. 1.00
00:06:51.660 So they can't win. So to 1.00
00:06:53.620 your point, you have to come to the realization
00:06:55.360 we can't win, we're losing
00:06:57.660 all these beautiful young people,
00:07:00.160 and let's just compromise,
00:07:01.760 okay? He's not giving up that
00:07:03.580 land anyway, Putin.
00:07:05.640 So let them have it, and let's move on.
00:07:08.120 No, see what happens in the future.
00:07:10.840 Like you just said, it's a mathematics problem now.
00:07:14.400 Right.
00:07:14.780 It's just you don't have as many as they do.
00:07:17.860 Eventually, you're going to lose.
00:07:19.600 Why sacrifice so many of these young people when you compromise?
00:07:25.140 We'll be called Putin apologists. 0.75
00:07:27.180 We're going to be called Putin apologists.
00:07:28.280 Please.
00:07:29.120 I say this all the time with Trump.
00:07:31.660 I believe that he started to gain ground, not the indictments before that.
00:07:36.880 I've said this a million times, but he went to East Palestine, Ohio, because no one was going there, Anthony.
00:07:42.440 Not Biden, not Buttigieg.
00:07:43.880 These poor people are still glowing in the dark, right?
00:07:46.440 I mean, you had chemicals in the air.
00:07:48.260 This guy's handing out McDonald's and water to Americans, Americans.
00:07:52.620 The same day that Trump got to Ohio, where was Biden?
00:07:56.160 he was giving another check to zelensky in the rose garden in ukraine hate to say it peter king
00:08:03.400 and everybody else brian kilmeade all you guys even mark levin nobody wants to see that anymore
00:08:08.560 nobody no and they just don't understand how diplomacy works i mean the idea that you're
00:08:15.760 just not going to talk to somebody for years uh since the conflict started uh during the
00:08:21.600 biden administration no one would even talk to putin and if there was any inkling that a peace
00:08:28.520 talk could even start they put the kibosh on it they stopped it they don't want peace in that
00:08:35.820 region it's too profitable for uh people and they certainly don't want trump to have brokered a
00:08:42.440 peace because then my god they're gonna have to say something good about him yeah you know i see
00:08:47.880 all this pomp you're right about that anthony i see all this pomp and circumstance and it's kind
00:08:52.020 of cool they got the flags you know for every person who shows up there's seven different 0.98
00:08:57.160 european leaders outside of zolensky the clown from the uk is there that idiot macron from france 0.98
00:09:03.880 is there the cute italian girl but what they're missing i think you'll agree with this what 1.00
00:09:08.680 they're missing outside the white house right now with all the pomp and circumstance and the flags
00:09:14.280 and all the military people.
00:09:16.560 How about this?
00:09:17.280 How about this? 1.00
00:09:18.240 How about some male cheerleaders?
00:09:20.560 Oh, God, I knew it.
00:09:25.320 You know, I talked about this at the beginning of my show yesterday,
00:09:29.580 and as far as a problem goes, an issue, it's nothing.
00:09:36.500 And I think you could agree, Sid.
00:09:37.980 You're a guy, you're covering the big stories,
00:09:40.740 You're talking with the movers and shakers in world politics.
00:09:45.520 So the cheerleading men on the Vikings and the Patriots and whatnot,
00:09:50.620 is it really a life-altering story?
00:09:53.780 I can go out.
00:09:54.900 I can go to the supermarket.
00:09:56.880 I can get gas.
00:09:57.900 It's not going to affect me.
00:09:59.780 It's just funny.
00:10:01.980 We just find men with pom-poms jumping around on a football field
00:10:08.100 to be funny in some way, shape, or form because it's so out there.
00:10:13.800 And, yeah, I talked about it.
00:10:15.820 And the one real horrible part of it is the Patriots cheerleader guy,
00:10:21.600 the guy cheerleader, his name is Jeremy Greer.
00:10:26.360 And I can only imagine the names they came up with for him in high school
00:10:31.020 with the last name Greer.
00:10:33.200 You don't have to be a genius to make a few rhymes.
00:10:36.580 Sure.
00:10:38.100 Give me one.
00:10:38.640 Go ahead. 0.97
00:10:41.240 Rear.
00:10:41.920 Right. 1.00
00:10:43.740 Queer. 1.00
00:10:44.620 Yeah.
00:10:45.200 I'm sure that one was used a lot.
00:10:47.880 You could even go from the great movie An Officer and a Gentleman.
00:10:52.220 Oh, yes.
00:10:53.420 There's only two things from the state of Oklahoma, and I don't see any steer.
00:10:57.780 Steer.
00:10:58.500 How about that?
00:10:59.340 Yes.
00:10:59.520 That was a full metal jacket also.
00:11:02.340 Yes.
00:11:02.940 Yes.
00:11:03.460 They all work.
00:11:04.640 So I'm certain this guy. 0.94
00:11:06.420 You could stick it in the ear, I guess. 0.92
00:11:07.800 I don't know.
00:11:08.740 And then I was thinking, you know, if his dad, you know, he called his dad and said,
00:11:13.880 hey, dad, I just signed with the New England Patriots.
00:11:16.920 And the dad's like, I knew it was just a phase.
00:11:19.600 I told your mother.
00:11:20.960 I knew it.
00:11:23.000 And then, you know, you got to tell dad to sit down.
00:11:25.820 I got bad news.
00:11:28.300 It's not quite what you think.
00:11:30.300 Although you see some of these, I've got about 40 seconds.
00:11:32.720 But like in college, for example, when they have the cheerleaders run on the court
00:11:37.580 and you get these guys, they're all built like Mitch Gaylord, like these gymnasts.
00:11:41.280 They've got huge muscles.
00:11:42.720 They look like a million bucks. 1.00
00:11:44.200 They throw these girls up in the air like 6,000 feet. 1.00
00:11:46.980 They catch them. 0.92
00:11:48.040 And I don't think those guys are gay. 0.93
00:11:50.220 I don't know. 1.00
00:11:50.800 Maybe they are.
00:11:51.440 I don't know.
00:11:51.880 You would know better than me.
00:11:53.600 I would know.
00:11:55.920 They did.
00:11:56.940 There was part of it, especially back in the old days.
00:11:58.960 They have that cardboard bullhorn and rah-rah-sis-boom-bah. 0.99
00:12:02.360 Like you said, they're bottom of the pyramid holding the girls up.
00:12:06.720 Yeah, that's understandable. 0.98
00:12:08.200 And even then, I'm sure they caught a lot of crap from the football team.
00:12:12.020 But these guys, I mean, this is just not quite what the football audience really wants, I don't think.
00:12:19.780 No, you're right.
00:12:20.520 I mean, like you mentioned on your show, you've got Kevin James has one hand down his sweatpants.
00:12:25.820 You know, he's got an old Emerson Boozer jersey on.
00:12:28.540 He's six beers in.
00:12:29.600 You know, he's going commercial breaks to U-Porn.
00:12:37.620 This is the brilliant musical stylings of Anthony Cumia, 8 to 11, every Sunday night here on ABC.
00:12:45.140 Of course, I'm Sid Rosenberg.
00:12:46.880 More of Sid and Ant, Ant and Sid, right after these short messages.
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00:13:28.880 Johnny Cash.
00:13:29.720 Trump loves Johnny Cash.
00:13:31.040 So do I.
00:13:32.180 So does Lewis.
00:13:33.740 Ring of Fire, I'm sure so does Anthony.
00:13:35.400 In fact, the Dylan movie, you know, I keep bringing it up like it just came out.
00:13:39.200 I know it's old, but I just saw it, so bear with me.
00:13:42.740 And Timothy, what is his name, Chalamet, he's got a new movie coming out.
00:13:47.400 And John Katsimatidis is actually in the movie.
00:13:50.620 It'll be out Christmas Day.
00:13:51.860 late this year, but he was good friends, Dylan, with Johnny Cash.
00:13:56.780 Cash used to stick up.
00:13:57.800 Are you a Johnny Cash fan, Anthony?
00:13:59.800 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:00.640 I mean, growing up, my formative years spent out in California
00:14:04.880 with my dad, horses, the whole thing.
00:14:07.180 So Johnny Cash was playing all the time.
00:14:11.960 So you're a real man's man.
00:14:13.360 You're a real man.
00:14:14.160 You like Johnny Cash.
00:14:15.520 You got guns.
00:14:17.240 Guns.
00:14:18.520 Yeah, back then when I was about, you know, in my teen years,
00:14:21.660 My dad bought me a horse out there.
00:14:23.740 This is when California was kind of a good place.
00:14:27.680 It was Republican.
00:14:29.220 It was conservative.
00:14:30.960 You could ride your horse around.
00:14:34.120 Everything wasn't built up into condos.
00:14:36.780 And, you know, it was a much nicer place than we see now.
00:14:42.680 Yeah, but you're not talking about Los Angeles.
00:14:45.080 Where the hell were you?
00:14:45.940 No, I was in Orange County.
00:14:47.120 I was at San Juan Capistrano where the Swallows come back every year.
00:14:50.520 Yeah, it was beautiful.
00:14:51.480 Yeah, it is lovely.
00:14:52.440 So are you a Bob Dylan fan, too?
00:14:54.560 No.
00:14:55.840 I can't get through two seconds of a Bob Dylan song.
00:15:00.640 Really?
00:15:01.500 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:02.520 And it's not even the typical, you know,
00:15:03.880 like his singing style.
00:15:06.960 I just, I was never into that folk.
00:15:10.040 You know, Johnny Cash had an edge to it.
00:15:13.000 I was never into that folky stuff that was going on in the 60s.
00:15:18.360 No, I didn't like that either.
00:15:19.280 I mean, you know, they go back to Woody Guthrie and all that.
00:15:22.080 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:22.900 But, you know, like Blowing in the Wind or what's the rock and roll song again?
00:15:28.360 The one I like that they actually took the title from.
00:15:30.620 Like a Rolling Stone.
00:15:31.480 Like a Rolling Stone.
00:15:32.640 You don't like that?
00:15:33.180 Yeah.
00:15:33.860 No, it doesn't do anything for me.
00:15:35.480 Terrible.
00:15:35.960 It's awful.
00:15:36.740 Don't ever play it again, Lou, in fact.
00:15:38.260 I like Trump's playlist for what I heard.
00:15:40.620 Yeah, like Enter Sandman.
00:15:42.860 It's nice.
00:15:43.680 But here's the thing with you.
00:15:44.760 Even if you didn't like the songs, you would say I like Trump because you love Trump so much.
00:15:48.140 It wouldn't matter.
00:15:48.600 Like, if you had the Bay City Rollers, you'd go, oh, my God, I love that. 0.90
00:15:52.760 Not quite.
00:15:54.060 Not quite.
00:15:55.300 But, you know, it's surprising that a guy that's, you know, 79 years old likes some songs that are rocking.
00:16:04.120 Oh, yeah, no, he likes rock.
00:16:05.200 He loves rock.
00:16:06.220 You heard the numbers that already talked about.
00:16:08.380 I mentioned, which I know for a fact, he loves Guns N' Roses, Sinead O'Connor.
00:16:12.220 And when I went to visit Trump last December, I've had a bunch of times, but last December in Mar-a-Lago, I walked in.
00:16:20.040 I'm telling you a true story.
00:16:21.640 I walk in. 0.95
00:16:22.220 Alina Haber is in this adorable outfit, Siggy Flicker.
00:16:25.860 It was Beach Boys night, and the actual Beach Boys were performing at the pool at Mar-a-Lago.
00:16:30.600 Ah, that's something.
00:16:31.720 Isn't that great?
00:16:32.620 That's something.
00:16:33.380 I can't even tell what musicians will play and show up for Trump
00:16:40.980 and which ones I hate him.
00:16:43.140 Because you find out he plays a song, everyone gets psyched about it,
00:16:46.620 and then you find out the artist goes, yeah, we don't want him playing that.
00:16:49.780 Well, I'll tell you who likes him right now.
00:16:51.680 George Strait.
00:16:53.140 Yeah.
00:16:53.620 Gloria Gaynor. 0.72
00:16:55.200 Right, right.
00:16:56.380 Lincoln Center, yes.
00:16:57.460 Right.
00:16:58.020 The Kennedy Center.
00:16:59.180 Kennedy Center.
00:17:00.160 Yeah.
00:17:00.360 Yeah.
00:17:01.060 All that stuff.
00:17:01.740 Yeah, and I heard some news show, I guess MSNBC, one of these terrible news agencies,
00:17:10.480 and they're talking about how Gloria Gaynor was a DEI appointment
00:17:15.100 because they just wanted to have an African-American woman on there.
00:17:18.940 No, it was The View, Ana Navarro, and then she begged Gloria Gaynor not to go. 0.94
00:17:24.360 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:25.560 How about you mind your own business? 1.00
00:17:28.580 Yeah, you dumb biatch. 1.00
00:17:29.640 Mind your own business. 1.00
00:17:31.740 How that view is still on is beyond.
00:17:34.360 Well, you know, MSNBC announced today, talking about these liberal networks, that it's over.
00:17:39.760 We've known this now for months.
00:17:41.280 NBC dropped them a while ago.
00:17:42.680 But now it's becoming official.
00:17:44.240 They're going to be MS.
00:17:45.700 That's it. 1.00
00:17:46.480 MS.
00:17:46.820 Yeah.
00:17:47.520 And they're going to be gone from NBC.
00:17:49.940 So you've got to think.
00:17:51.100 It's just a matter of time.
00:17:52.240 You mentioned The View. 1.00
00:17:53.120 Look at how despicable we mentioned earlier Margaret Brennan was. 1.00
00:17:56.860 CBS Face the Nation. 1.00
00:17:58.480 Or this dummy Kristen Walker every Sunday. 0.77
00:18:01.300 NBC, Meet the Press, they should all be gone in, all of them.
00:18:04.960 Yeah.
00:18:05.360 I mean, we're kind of working toward that.
00:18:08.080 I think people are either waking up.
00:18:10.340 I don't think it's so much waking up as the people that have been awake
00:18:15.740 are finally starting to say something.
00:18:19.040 And it's translating to businesses and other things where people,
00:18:22.620 except for the NFL, where they're going,
00:18:25.540 yeah, this has been ridiculous over the past few years.
00:18:28.420 So let's get back to business, the business of America.
00:18:33.380 Let's have some pride in nation.
00:18:35.980 Let's, you know, make America great again, like somebody has said.
00:18:41.340 Well, what is the NFL doing now?
00:18:43.180 What was Roger Goodell's latest announcement?
00:18:45.760 Well, no, my idea is with the cheerleader thing.
00:18:48.780 It's just the go woke, go broke thing.
00:18:52.160 And, you know, Bud Light, we saw how that worked out.
00:18:55.660 That was a disaster.
00:18:56.380 The Jaguar, we saw the Jaguar thing, the CEO just got the boot
00:18:59.460 because they were not even selling cars in their commercials.
00:19:03.480 I don't know what it was.
00:19:05.600 But, you know, I think people are starting to realize this is not working.
00:19:10.680 And we need to get back to tradition.
00:19:12.660 Right.
00:19:12.900 Here's more proof they've had enough.
00:19:14.380 This story broke over the weekend.
00:19:16.280 So Spike Lee did this whole thing in and around the former 49er quarterback,
00:19:21.360 Colin Kaepernick.
00:19:22.400 And let me just say this.
00:19:24.060 I don't dislike Colin Kaepernick.
00:19:25.520 I don't dislike him. 0.98
00:19:26.380 I hate his guts, okay? 0.98
00:19:28.360 I don't care. 0.98
00:19:29.600 I don't care that his teammate on the 49ers who did serve,
00:19:34.600 who did serve in the military, it was his idea to kneel.
00:19:38.080 I don't care. 1.00
00:19:39.220 His girlfriend is a lowlife and a loser, Kaepernick. 1.00
00:19:43.360 He is too. 1.00
00:19:44.100 I don't care what Mike Lupica says or the rest of these people.
00:19:47.000 He caused more divide in this country, this dopey two-win quarterback,
00:19:51.820 than maybe anybody.
00:19:52.680 So the fact that ESPN, the woke ESPN said, we're not playing it, that made me so happy over the weekend.
00:20:00.460 Yeah, yeah.
00:20:01.420 I mean, no one wants to see this guy.
00:20:04.000 He isn't a sports figure that's like, oh, I need to get an in-depth biography of this guy.
00:20:10.680 And then tied with Spike Lee.
00:20:12.020 I don't know what your relationship is with Spike Lee.
00:20:15.540 But I don't like him about as much as you don't like Colin Kaepernick.
00:20:20.460 I hate Spike Lee, too.
00:20:23.620 I see him at Nick games every now and then. 0.99
00:20:25.560 But this idiot, this Spike Lee, you know, when the whole I miss thing went down 0.99
00:20:30.200 with the unfortunate remark he made about the not beheading. 1.00
00:20:33.640 Very unfortunate.
00:20:36.240 So Spike Lee goes on the Oprah Winfrey show.
00:20:40.180 And then, you know, I miss said what he said.
00:20:42.400 And my late great friend Bernard, God rest his soul.
00:20:45.220 All Bernard did.
00:20:46.040 All Bernard did was repeat something from a movie.
00:20:49.680 but Spike Lee actually credited me with that on the Oprah Winfrey show
00:20:53.900 and went on to just hammer me. 0.99
00:20:56.200 And I'm going, that wasn't even me, you jackass. 0.99
00:20:59.260 It wasn't even me. 0.99
00:21:00.520 I swear to God, Spike Lee.
00:21:02.300 So I'm not a – look, I think he's a talented guy.
00:21:04.860 I mean, I got to tell you, one of my favorite movies of all time,
00:21:07.860 25th Hour, you ever see that?
00:21:11.080 Ed Norton.
00:21:12.080 Ed Norton, right.
00:21:12.800 Philip Seymour Hoffman. 0.94
00:21:14.020 Patrice is in that for two seconds.
00:21:15.740 Patrice O'Neill, he's a doorman at a club.
00:21:17.860 Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:21:18.860 That's right.
00:21:19.900 That is a good movie.
00:21:20.940 That's a good movie.
00:21:21.760 Otherwise, I don't care.
00:21:23.280 Otherwise.
00:21:23.480 But, you know, you talk about woke.
00:21:25.960 So I heard, I guess it was last year, after he interviewed Kamala Harris, that horrible interview.
00:21:34.180 And he said, you know, people describe me as woke.
00:21:37.520 And he said, I want to be woke.
00:21:39.800 He goes, you know, the opposite of woke is asleep.
00:21:43.760 And I don't want to be asleep.
00:21:45.260 Now, you know what I'm talking about?
00:21:46.600 Who?
00:21:47.520 Howard Stern.
00:21:48.200 He goes, I want to be woke because the opposite is asleep.
00:21:51.960 Now, Richard Johnson in the Daily News this weekend said, despite people saying that he'll come back, take less money, he's not going out this way, that the rumors are Howard is, in fact, going to retire.
00:22:05.820 Your thoughts?
00:22:07.640 Well, I know they're promoting on satellite radio, they're promoting him coming back because he barely does a show anymore.
00:22:15.860 I guess he takes the entire summer off.
00:22:18.200 So he's coming back on such and such a date, and they're promoting how he's going to address this,
00:22:23.320 and he's going to talk about it.
00:22:24.620 I guess they want a last hurrah of people listening to him.
00:22:28.620 Well, but you know that he takes the summer off, completely off, for three months.
00:22:32.320 But after the announcement was made a couple of weeks ago, which you and I did a great job with,
00:22:36.400 they got a million hits on YouTube, he actually came to work the next day.
00:22:39.800 He was on the air.
00:22:41.080 Did he say anything about it?
00:22:42.500 Yes, he actually came in and specifically did one four-hour show,
00:22:47.180 which he never does, in the middle of the summer two weeks ago,
00:22:50.440 just talking about the rumors.
00:22:52.480 But he didn't say whether he's retiring or not.
00:22:54.780 No, he did not say that.
00:22:56.020 Yeah, yeah.
00:22:56.800 I can't see him doing it.
00:22:58.160 Like we talked about in the past, the mic is an addiction.
00:23:01.880 He doesn't have it.
00:23:02.900 If he was a young guy who might want to take some time off
00:23:06.300 and then go into his own thing on the Internet maybe or something,
00:23:09.340 that's one thing.
00:23:10.160 When you're, you know, what is he now, 71?
00:23:12.820 72 by the time the contract ends.
00:23:16.100 What does he have left?
00:23:18.080 And it sounds funny to say what does a guy have left that has almost a billion dollars.
00:23:23.120 But, you know, he needs something.
00:23:25.520 He needs the attention, the adoration, this feeling that he's relevant.
00:23:30.920 So I say he is staying no matter what they give him.
00:23:35.340 Yeah, I say, too, especially going out this way.
00:23:38.680 You can make the argument, well, you know, like you said,
00:23:42.220 I don't need them, and I made SiriusXM.
00:23:45.320 Thank you, Mel Cormazin, but I made them.
00:23:47.200 And he can go out looking like a hero anyway,
00:23:49.100 but I can't see it this way either.
00:23:51.660 I can't.
00:23:52.400 He never wanted to fizzle out.
00:23:54.500 There were these other jocks that got older,
00:23:57.180 and he would bash them relentlessly about how they overstayed their welcome
00:24:01.520 in the business, and they just faded away.
00:24:05.240 And he never wanted to be that.
00:24:07.620 And it's looking like that's how Howard's career is going to end. 0.99
00:24:11.880 and it's got to kill him. 1.00
00:24:13.480 Kill him. 1.00
00:24:14.100 So were there other guys when you were growing up, Anthony, 0.99
00:24:16.640 because I know you're a humble guy,
00:24:18.840 but the truth is you're going to be on that Mount Rushmore,
00:24:21.720 the old-time radio greats.
00:24:23.040 Oh, my goodness.
00:24:23.700 No, you're going to be there, and that's true.
00:24:26.380 But were there other guys, I know you loved Stern for a while there,
00:24:29.380 and then you had your own thing with Opie.
00:24:31.260 Other guys, like, you know, listen, I like Bob Grant.
00:24:34.100 I like Paul Harvey.
00:24:35.220 I like Wolfman Jack.
00:24:36.480 Any other guys for you?
00:24:37.900 Bob Grant was huge for me.
00:24:39.620 Like, I used to listen to him all the time.
00:24:41.400 Loved him.
00:24:42.600 But I also, for some reason, I liked the old music boss jocks,
00:24:47.200 Ron Lundy and I Am Baby and those guys on WMBC.
00:24:54.460 Yeah, those guys, it was a mystery to me.
00:24:56.920 It was like the radio, you didn't know what they looked like
00:25:00.920 or where they were sitting.
00:25:02.040 You had this mental image of it,
00:25:03.700 and it just always seemed unbelievably cool to me to do that.
00:25:10.080 And, yeah, so some of those old guys.
00:25:12.480 And I think every boy especially gets their first taste of radio with their dad.
00:25:19.340 You know, you're sitting in the car or the truck with your father,
00:25:21.680 and he puts on the talk radio, and sometimes it was a little bawdy at times.
00:25:30.100 And he'd look over and kind of laugh.
00:25:32.400 And it was just a great kind of father and son thing.
00:25:35.320 Before I told him I wanted to be a cheerleader.
00:25:37.700 Right.
00:25:37.900 Then he got a little.
00:25:38.660 They're very upset, sure.
00:25:39.860 Upset with me.
00:25:42.320 Lewis, the great Lou Rufino, who's running the board right now
00:25:45.240 and runs the board and just is one of the greatest ever,
00:25:49.860 he says that Scott Muni was overrated.
00:25:53.320 Oh, wow.
00:25:54.220 Yes.
00:25:54.780 Scott So.
00:25:55.720 Well, you know, I knew Scott So during the very tail end of his career.
00:26:01.380 But, you know, radio was a different animal back then, too.
00:26:04.220 He was out there with the musicians of the time,
00:26:07.840 which was the 60s.
00:26:09.600 NEW was a huge rock station back then,
00:26:14.020 meeting the Beatles when they,
00:26:15.980 I met the Beatles on the tarmac at Idlewild Airport.
00:26:21.340 You know, it's like it was kind of a thing for the time.
00:26:26.340 But I think, you know, as time went by and shock jocks
00:26:30.060 and things like that started happening,
00:26:32.280 I think, yeah, he kind of got pushed out.
00:26:36.020 Yeah, I guess he did.
00:26:36.800 I loved him, though.
00:26:37.640 He was a great guy.
00:26:38.880 Of all the Scots, he was my favorite.
00:26:40.980 Like, I never got into Scots, John. 0.51
00:26:42.700 And maybe because when I got fired by Imus,
00:26:45.760 him and Todd Pettengill did this whole thing on me with a bad guy I was.
00:26:50.180 Yeah, so years later, he gave me, like, I saw him with Bernard at WABC, 0.99
00:26:54.980 and he tried to be nice, but I'm like, I know what you said about me, you dick. 0.98
00:26:58.020 So, isn't it the worst thing when you get fired 0.99
00:27:03.320 and all the other jocks are on their shows bashing you?
00:27:06.320 Yes, yes. 1.00
00:27:07.640 damn thing you could do about it. 0.98
00:27:09.120 So that's why I liked Howard at one point 0.98
00:27:11.220 because when Imus initially fired me for my
00:27:13.160 Williams sister's comments back in
00:27:15.080 2001, Howard and
00:27:17.220 Robin defended me. They're like, wait a
00:27:19.260 second, Imus is going to fire
00:27:21.180 somebody for a racially insensitive
00:27:23.520 bad joke? Imus?
00:27:25.420 So I like them because of that, you
00:27:27.300 know? Well, that was back
00:27:29.320 when he was a little more honest.
00:27:31.360 And look, he was trying to protect 0.99
00:27:33.320 his own ass a lot of times because 0.99
00:27:35.280 he was doing and saying stuff 0.99
00:27:37.460 that was pretty much the same about people.
00:27:40.820 It could be interpreted as being racist or sexist or homophobe.
00:27:44.360 Interpreted? 0.99
00:27:45.640 He had black jeopardy. 0.66
00:27:49.080 He literally had a KKK guy on. 0.74
00:27:52.780 Yeah, I mean.
00:27:55.200 And he had the guy from Austria talking about the Jews. 0.97
00:27:58.900 He hated the Jews. 0.94
00:27:59.700 Oh, God, yeah, yeah. 0.81
00:28:01.320 What was his name again?
00:28:02.700 It was.
00:28:03.560 Oh, God.
00:28:04.580 Because it was Fred.
00:28:05.340 It was Fred that was.
00:28:06.340 Yeah, it was Fred.
00:28:07.400 That's right. 0.98
00:28:08.200 He had king of all blacks, this black, that black. 0.91
00:28:10.780 Are you kidding me? 1.00
00:28:11.720 Come on.
00:28:12.260 And those are looked at as the golden age of the Howard Stern shows.
00:28:16.620 I know.
00:28:17.240 I know.
00:28:17.880 Yeah. 0.79
00:28:18.400 That's why Jimmy Fallon always filled in for Howard because he also made fun of blacks 0.83
00:28:22.100 at every opportunity. 0.73
00:28:24.300 He did a Karl Malone skit that was so degrading and so horrible, and yet he was fine.
00:28:30.920 It's Jimmy Fallon.
00:28:31.640 Jimmy Kimmel, I should say.
00:28:32.780 Jimmy Kimmel.
00:28:32.840 Kurt Waldheim, Jr.
00:28:34.060 Yes!
00:28:34.640 Kurt Waldheim, Jr.
00:28:35.420 That was bugging me.
00:28:36.380 Kurt Waldheim Jr.
00:28:39.060 Let's take a short break.
00:28:41.700 That's good stuff.
00:28:42.620 That is good stuff, Anthony Cumia.
00:28:44.700 Anthony and Sid will be right back.
00:28:47.060 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:28:53.240 Another one bites the dust.
00:28:55.860 Another Greg Kelly show.
00:28:57.420 He's in Cyprus.
00:28:58.200 I've been there.
00:28:58.820 Was there, what, two weeks ago?
00:29:01.080 Cap St. George's.
00:29:02.380 Daniel and I had a wonderful time out of Theria, an amazing young lady.
00:29:06.380 It's a gorgeous place.
00:29:07.600 Craig is going to love it.
00:29:08.480 And you guys will love it, too.
00:29:09.760 So your next resort destination, check out the lovely Cap St. George's in Cyprus.
00:29:16.200 You know what I realize?
00:29:16.980 I got New York One on here, Anthony.
00:29:18.480 It's this communist, socialist, local channel. 0.98
00:29:21.580 They're horrible people. 0.96
00:29:23.160 And they picked the New Yorker of the week. 0.92
00:29:25.220 And I realized I'm never going to get it.
00:29:27.140 I'm never going to get the New York One New Yorker of the week, ever.
00:29:30.480 And you should.
00:29:31.660 I should.
00:29:32.400 Yeah.
00:29:32.860 Of course I should.
00:29:33.600 Out there, big, big radio guy.
00:29:35.720 Right.
00:29:36.380 I'm talking to the Secretary of State, the President, the Prime Minister of Israel.
00:29:40.220 I'm knee-deep in the mayor's race.
00:29:41.800 They all want to wine and dine me, and they will never, ever consider me because I'm not a liberal.
00:29:47.760 No, that's how mainstream media works, and they're not even really mainstream.
00:29:52.540 No.
00:29:52.840 They're just kind of out there.
00:29:54.600 Boy, that MSNBC thing, now they're MSNOW.
00:29:58.520 MSNOW.
00:29:58.980 I saw the logo.
00:29:59.600 Yeah.
00:30:00.060 I just saw it.
00:30:00.740 You know, I'm sorry, but the first thing I think of is multiple sclerosis.
00:30:03.980 Me too.
00:30:04.440 I swear to God.
00:30:05.420 It's not a good, you know.
00:30:07.900 I'd put the same thing, MS, multiple schools.
00:30:10.660 It's the first thing you think of because, you know,
00:30:13.380 from the charity organizations, everything, MS, that's all you think. 1.00
00:30:17.100 Of course, they're so stupid. 1.00
00:30:20.880 Jamie Lynn Sigler, our dear friend, 1.00
00:30:23.220 she was a big star as Meadow on The Sopranos.
00:30:25.700 When you guys were red hot back in 2001, she has MS. 0.58
00:30:30.360 Yes, she wears it well.
00:30:32.060 She does. 0.92
00:30:32.860 She looks great.
00:30:33.660 She does a podcast with, what's his name?
00:30:38.280 Isn't she married to Lenny Dykstra's son?
00:30:40.940 Yeah, right?
00:30:42.120 Lenny Dykstra is her father-in-law.
00:30:44.260 Yes.
00:30:44.660 Nails. 0.99
00:30:45.400 And he's just insane.
00:30:48.480 Well, one of the last times I was on your show, your great, great show,
00:30:54.740 I walked a couple of blocks away.
00:30:56.080 I was working with Bernard at Madison Square Garden.
00:30:58.240 Right.
00:30:58.860 And I think you had Curt Schilling on the same day I was on.
00:31:02.440 Yeah.
00:31:02.640 And we were talking about Lenny.
00:31:04.060 Lenny was doing something crazy at the time, and I like Lenny.
00:31:07.880 He's been on the show a bunch of times, but he's completely insane.
00:31:10.700 He's lost his, he's gone, it's over.
00:31:12.600 Oh, yeah, he's a wild man, and we had him on.
00:31:17.180 We wanted to have him on my network to do a show, you know, an hour a week,
00:31:22.360 something like that, and he just couldn't even handle that.
00:31:26.280 He was that just unpredictable and crazy, and believe me,
00:31:30.460 I had Artie Lang on there, so, you know, you could say, is he worse than Artie Lang?
00:31:38.640 That's saying a lot.
00:31:39.940 So you have one guess in the next minute.
00:31:41.760 So Lenski showed up at the White House, and you have one guess, Anthony, of what he was wearing.
00:31:48.020 Take a guess. 1.00
00:31:49.180 Is he wearing that stupid wannabe soldier outfit again? 1.00
00:31:54.140 I know he's wearing a black T-shirt, like Macron, who's a scumbag, shows up in a suit, 1.00
00:31:59.180 and the guy from England shows up in his suit 0.99
00:32:01.620 and your boy walked in in a black
00:32:03.580 t-shirt. He dresses like
00:32:05.540 LeBeau from Hogan's Heroes.
00:32:10.260 Yeah.
00:32:12.760 He's a little
00:32:13.660 guy. He dresses in his little eye.
00:32:15.400 I'm playing Army Man.
00:32:18.000 Yeah, black t-shirt.
00:32:19.800 I mean, all the world
00:32:21.460 leaders there, supposedly to
00:32:23.520 back him up, you know, because
00:32:25.500 they're so angry.
00:32:27.520 But, you know, Rubio set her straight.
00:32:30.640 Oh, he did a great job with that.
00:32:32.360 That was so good.
00:32:34.540 Hogan's Heroes, the great Richard Dawson was on that show.
00:32:38.020 Yes, yes.
00:32:39.180 Then he went on to give mouth herpes to a lot of people on Family Feud.
00:32:43.340 It was weird how they would all kiss him like that.
00:32:46.540 Like he would make out with them, practically.
00:32:50.020 Yeah, it was a power move because the husband would be there.
00:32:53.020 Richard, this is my lovely wife, Elizabeth.
00:32:56.540 And he'd be like, oh, come over here, darling.
00:32:58.920 Come over here.
00:33:00.080 And he's kissing, and the guy's got to sit there
00:33:02.660 like he's in the cuck chair next to the bed in the hotel.
00:33:08.220 Just terrible.
00:33:10.980 That's exactly what it was.
00:33:12.320 Those were the original cuckold videos right there.
00:33:14.980 Yeah, yeah, Richard Dawson.
00:33:17.420 Anthony, every time I do this with you, I want to do it again
00:33:19.620 because it's so great, man.
00:33:21.020 That was another great hour.
00:33:22.920 Man, you are so great.
00:33:24.140 Folks, check out Anthony, 8 to 11, every Sunday night.
00:33:27.240 I'm sure he'll be here throughout this week as well with Greg Kelly and Cypress.
00:33:31.100 Anthony Cumia, you're a genius.
00:33:32.980 I love you.
00:33:33.580 Thank you.
00:33:34.120 You, Sid.
00:33:35.000 You.
00:33:35.480 I'm out of here.
00:33:36.380 That's Anthony Cumia.
00:33:37.560 I'm Sid Rosenberg.
00:33:38.380 I'll be back tomorrow morning at 6 for Sid and Friends in the Morning.
00:33:42.060 Until then, for Anthony, Lewis, Justin, the whole crew here, have yourselves a good Monday.
00:33:48.660 Peace.
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