The Anthony Cumia Show - April 24, 2026


Bernie vs. The Ro-buts | 04-19-26


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00:00:59.960 this is the 77 wabc minicast uh bernie sanders bernie he's been talking about
00:01:14.700 A.I. Yeah. Arthritic inflammation. No. Artificial intelligence.
00:01:22.860 The fact that this guy is even talking about something, I'm sure he has no grasp of.
00:01:27.840 I'm sure he cannot understand what A.I. is, but he's got a bunch of people and they feel that their jobs are going to be threatened by A.I.
00:01:40.760 And he is going to be there to tell those people, don't worry, I'm fighting for you.
00:01:44.700 um for what what are you going to do bernie it's technology it's advancing it's the future
00:01:54.660 uh did was there a bernie sanders that showed up when um when automobiles were invented
00:02:02.420 to represent the blacksmiths and the horseshoers farriers is that what they're called
00:02:09.060 and say, no, we do not want automobiles.
00:02:14.420 The shoes must go on the horses, because the people need to ride the horses.
00:02:20.260 And automobiles, we will stop producing or driving automobiles
00:02:25.280 until they realize you need horseshoes.
00:02:29.040 And this is what he's doing now.
00:02:31.540 AI is what it is. Pandora's out of the box.
00:02:34.940 There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube, as they say.
00:02:37.940 but uh you know he's gonna pander either he's really ignorant as to what ai is and the fact
00:02:46.080 that technology is always advancing and it costs people their jobs but in return it creates jobs
00:02:54.340 in other sectors in brand new sectors that weren't even imagined before but he's bernie
00:03:01.740 and he's going to be the socialist and I'm all for the workers.
00:03:06.400 And here he is.
00:03:08.140 Let me see.
00:03:08.720 I got a couple of clips here from him.
00:03:11.520 This is him.
00:03:12.180 Oh, yeah, AC5.
00:03:14.440 The experts are telling us that AI and robotics is going to have a huge impact on every worker in America.
00:03:25.200 As Senator Sanders says, this is the most fundamental change that has happened in society,
00:03:31.080 certainly in my lifetime, and maybe in all of history.
00:03:35.880 You would think that the greatest country of the world would stop and say,
00:03:42.580 what do we do about this?
00:03:44.700 Not just let five or ten gazillionaires have carte blanche to do whatever they want.
00:03:52.800 We would say, what should we do in society?
00:03:56.580 It's really simple.
00:03:57.520 Will you stand with workers in this A.I. future or will you let big tech and the billionaires upend our jobs, our livelihoods, our rights and our dignity?
00:04:07.220 So here's what I know.
00:04:09.760 A.I. will not and A.I. cannot replace the dedication of those who have answered the call to become educators.
00:04:19.440 I don't know about that, lady.
00:04:21.340 Will it replace our professional expertise?
00:04:24.680 I want to be clear about this.
00:04:26.420 A.I. will either work for the working class or it will not work at all.
00:04:32.700 That's that is the ultimatum.
00:04:35.340 You know, the A.I. transitions about two simple questions.
00:04:39.340 How much value does our labor create?
00:04:43.040 And the second question is who benefits?
00:04:45.640 We have the humanity.
00:04:47.160 This is the moment to do it.
00:04:48.560 Senator Sanders is completely right about putting a moratorium on the building of the data centers.
00:04:53.280 And that is not about stopping progress of building big buildings.
00:04:57.540 That is about saying that we're not going to take one step forward until the regulation is in place.
00:05:03.140 And unless that regulation is in place, then AI is not working for any of us.
00:05:07.680 And we're going to stop working until AI works for us.
00:05:11.440 And yes, these big tech guys have unlimited amounts of money and have extraordinary power.
00:05:17.880 But I have absolute confidence that when we stand together, we are going to beat them and we're going to use these technologies to improve life for all people rather than making billionaires even wealthier.
00:05:32.300 Thank you all so much for being here.
00:05:35.920 Do they understand how this stuff works?
00:05:40.160 Have they looked at history?
00:05:42.060 they talk about history and have they looked at history and seen that with every big step up in
00:05:49.840 technology jobs are left in the dust and new ones are created and and them saying they're gonna hold
00:06:00.320 up ai if ai doesn't work for everyone it'll work for no one you can't do that first of all it's
00:06:09.340 impossible second of all it would be unethical it's not the right thing to do you have to let
00:06:17.900 these things fly uh they don't like it because it's kind of nipping at the heels of their jobs
00:06:27.160 teachers that girl brought up educators we will not have ai taking over the jobs of our dedicated
00:06:37.300 educate educators that's going to be the first job to go ai can teach it can uh teach without
00:06:48.080 an agenda it probably won't it'll probably be the agenda of whatever entity uh puts it in a
00:06:55.940 in a classroom but as an assistant i think it works very well if you have a qualified teacher
00:07:02.380 That isn't some freak of nature at the front of your classroom.
00:07:06.400 But, you know, just like the computer has elevated the classroom with that technology
00:07:16.540 and helped the teacher to educate the children, AI will be the same thing.
00:07:24.800 And there will be some people that just will not be needed anymore.
00:07:28.820 Customer service is already a thing of the past.
00:07:33.080 Is it a good thing?
00:07:34.220 I don't think so.
00:07:35.260 I'll tell you one thing, though.
00:07:37.020 When I get AI on a phone call to a company that I need customer service from,
00:07:42.900 it definitely gives me more answers than I got from,
00:07:46.420 please press number eight if you're looking for
00:07:49.220 or stay on the line for a customer service representative.
00:07:54.080 We apologize for the wait time.
00:07:56.980 I'd rather have AI go, hey, how can I help you?
00:08:00.700 Look, I'm being all mechanical.
00:08:01.680 You go, how can I help you?
00:08:03.280 It doesn't even do that.
00:08:04.540 It sounds very natural.
00:08:06.080 How can I help you?
00:08:07.780 And then you voice your problem, and it reaches into the database of Earth, of Earth forever.
00:08:18.420 And it tries to give you an answer.
00:08:21.440 And it's a hell of a lot better than, did you unplug it?
00:08:26.060 Did you plug it back in?
00:08:28.620 So, you know, I'm sorry.
00:08:31.500 Learn to prompt.
00:08:33.280 Remember learn to code?
00:08:35.280 When everyone's saying learn to code,
00:08:37.080 all these jobs are being given to techs and computer techs.
00:08:44.620 So learn to code.
00:08:46.480 Now it's learn to prompt.
00:08:48.940 Learn to create something that AI can do
00:08:53.100 and then put that in place of a few thousand human beings.
00:08:57.940 See how that works out for you.
00:09:00.500 That wasn't it. Bernie also had a comment, and this cracked me up.
00:09:05.920 You know, Bernie, he's no kid, that's for sure.
00:09:09.080 And when he talks about futuristic technology, it always makes me laugh.
00:09:15.360 But he's talking about robots in this next clip, and it's something I've joked about forever.
00:09:24.100 He says robot.
00:09:25.000 If you watch The Twilight Zone, Rod Serling would be like a simple robot.
00:09:33.820 And he's like, robot?
00:09:35.700 It's a robot, not a robot.
00:09:38.900 But Bernie is so old and out of touch with tech, he calls it a robot.
00:09:43.820 Let's listen to Bernie talk about the danger of the robots.
00:09:47.500 And the reality is that AI, that the AI oligarchs, and let's be clear, who is pushing?
00:09:52.820 You'll know who's pushing this technologies?
00:09:56.040 The richest people on Earth, Mr. Musk, Mr. Zuckerberg, Mr. Bezos, Mr. Ellison, and others.
00:10:05.720 And what they want to do is replace human workers.
00:10:10.320 Why?
00:10:11.540 If I have a robot and it costs me $30,000, $20,000 for a robot,
00:10:16.100 and that robot works 24 hours a day, doesn't get a salary, doesn't get a vacation,
00:10:21.200 doesn't get sick.
00:10:22.820 Man, what a good investment.
00:10:24.280 I've cut my quantum computer cost probably by 90%.
00:10:27.580 What do I need, human beings?
00:10:30.740 So the issue that we're dealing with today is some of us are old-fashioned,
00:10:36.720 and we believe in human beings, and the American people do as well.
00:10:43.740 How do you know?
00:10:45.620 Robots.
00:10:46.820 Roll, roll, roll your butt gently down the stream.
00:10:51.540 Robots.
00:10:52.020 Yeah. And who do you think's doing this? The richest people in the world. Yeah. Who do you think has the money to build robots? And these giant centers with graphics cards spinning, thousands of them at a time. Who's got that pocket change, Bernie?
00:11:11.120 Are you saying that just because they're wealthy, that this technology shouldn't exist or be utilized?
00:11:22.020 It's inevitable.
00:11:24.640 But the fact that they're rich isn't that they're these evil bond villains looking to take away humans' jobs with their robots.
00:11:37.340 You've got to be a billionaire to build robots.
00:11:44.680 I love this guy.
00:11:47.280 But, you know, I don't see a lot of Somali robots or AI centers.
00:11:56.400 It just ain't happening.
00:11:58.660 Yeah, it takes a lot of money.
00:12:00.920 What do you think?
00:12:01.940 all of the, you know, Henry Ford
00:12:06.380 back in the day. He was
00:12:10.440 virtually a billionaire back then. Being a
00:12:14.460 multi-millionaire was like the billionaires are today
00:12:17.900 with inflation and all. But what do you expect?
00:12:22.520 Some little guy down the street to
00:12:26.100 pump out Model Ts at an incredible rate?
00:12:30.660 it takes very wealthy people to do amazing things you think elon musk if he didn't have billions of
00:12:40.040 dollars could be launching rockets into the space that doesn't exist if you're stupid
00:12:46.580 he's he's putting all of the uh he's concentrating on the fact that very wealthy people are doing
00:12:57.900 these things and that because they're wealthy they don't care about the worker and the fact
00:13:04.320 that some of these workers are going to have their jobs eliminated because of these amazing
00:13:09.120 technologies that these billionaires have uh given us that doesn't mean the billionaire's
00:13:16.820 intention was to eliminate your stupid job and i'm saying stupid job because if ai can do it
00:13:25.100 Eh, what are you going to do?
00:13:28.040 Until I can be cloned, I'm pretty good.
00:13:32.280 I think I'm set, even with AI, you know.
00:13:35.460 I'm kind of unique in what I do.
00:13:39.000 You want to jack up people's minimum wage to $30 an hour
00:13:43.680 to do the simplest of tasks?
00:13:47.360 Of course a robot is going to do better.
00:13:50.280 He gave the greatest sales pitch for robots.
00:13:53.560 oh it doesn't get sick it doesn't take days off it doesn't want to raise and then he didn't have
00:14:00.080 anything after that to say in response of how that isn't the greatest thing ever that is great
00:14:08.540 as as a business owner an employer that sounds fantastic i want a whole warehouse of robots
00:14:18.860 but he needs votes so he's got to make it seem like he's for the people and he's old and doesn't
00:14:25.680 understand the technology and bloody bloody blah blah that's how it works the new comes in
00:14:33.460 the old goes out the village smithy isn't needed anymore maybe at a renaissance fair gig all the
00:14:43.200 people that bernie's talking to they could all go to a whatever the renaissance fair will be
00:14:48.180 in the future they could show them teaching a classroom this is what it was like we used to go
00:14:56.600 into a classroom and a person at the front of the room would actually but now ai does it we take it
00:15:04.720 for granted don't we yeah we do we do but that's progress anyone who's ever tried to hold back
00:15:13.920 process a progress um they've looked stupid in the eyes of history because there's just no doing it
00:15:23.200 human beings for how much you want to be a human and uh not take this guy's job away and
00:15:30.220 there are instincts in human beings in some of us that want to branch out explore invent
00:15:40.980 make things better easier build amazing innovations like robots and uh to try to hold
00:15:52.520 that back try to sweep uh the tide back grab a broom and try to sweep the tide back because
00:15:59.200 that's exactly what you're trying to do it's it's not easy for the people that it will affect but
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00:16:12.100 out of work hello my name is steve may i help you you're like you're not steve just stop i'd rather
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