The Anthony Cumia Show - August 06, 2025


Glory to the Mormon Militia ｜ 08-03-25


Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

134.8845

Word count

1,343

Sentence count

47

Harmful content

Toxicity

7

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Hate speech

10

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Summary

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On this episode of the WBC Minicast, host John Rocha talks about the Mormon religion and its influence in the early 20th century. John also discusses the new limited series on Netflix called "American Primeval" and why he thinks it's going to be a hit.

Transcript

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00:01:00.080 Listen, all you New Yorkers.
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00:01:05.320 This is the 77
00:01:07.160 WABC Minicast.
00:01:10.540 I was watching
00:01:11.680 this show on Netflix,
00:01:13.480 American Primeval.
00:01:15.180 It's
00:01:15.680 a story about
00:01:19.080 Utah and the
00:01:21.580 wild wilderness of Utah
00:01:23.720 back in the 1820s, 1830s, around there.
00:01:28.380 A lot of pioneers heading west,
00:01:31.220 trying to get a better life in California,
00:01:34.000 going through Utah.
00:01:35.980 It was a rough-and-tumble place, let's say.
00:01:39.580 A lot of these outposts full of nefarious people 1.00
00:01:43.900 and Indians and mountain men 1.00
00:01:48.000 and soldiers with the cavalry.
00:01:51.540 and then i had no clue about this part of it mormons now it's utah and you go obviously
00:02:01.580 you know salt lake city utah the headquarters of the mormons um but i had no clue 0.99
00:02:10.700 what was going on with the mormons back then they were nuts now regardless of how nutty you 0.91
00:02:19.880 think they are now uh boy not even the polygamy thing you know the people brigham young you know 0.97
00:02:29.660 at 20 40 wives and what's what's his name joe smith was he the guy i kind of started the whole
00:02:39.140 thing i'm not even going to get into the religion aspect of it but this was the the the series it's
00:02:48.920 Six episodes, about an hour each, a little under an hour for each episode.
00:02:53.940 And it's a limited series.
00:02:57.320 So you're done after six episodes, which I love very fast.
00:03:02.080 But here's where they get you.
00:03:04.780 They will give you two or three episodes that are amazing.
00:03:10.480 They hook you, rope you right in.
00:03:14.000 I will tell you, the first episode of 90% of the original programming
00:03:22.000 on these peripheral platforms are great.
00:03:26.000 That first episode, because they know, man, you hit play and the credits roll,
00:03:33.900 and within a minute, there is more action, and you go,
00:03:39.460 what the hell just happened and and that ropes you in and hooks you then by the third episode
00:03:48.460 they start screwing around and you go i this kind of fell off but in a six episode
00:03:59.580 limited series you're along for the ride you're not cashing out you're gonna stick in you're
00:04:05.840 stick in and watch uh the whole thing and that's what i did uh a lot of action and and really
00:04:14.020 brutal like battles between pioneers and indians and uh the cavalry and a lot of brutal brutal
00:04:24.420 murders but the thing i didn't know about was this mormon thing there was a massacre
00:04:29.900 there was a guide that was supposed to take some people across the Utah pioneers or
00:04:38.740 they were taking pioneers across the frontier in Utah and the Mormons had decided because
00:04:45.920 they were booted out of a couple of places Illinois and then I think Missouri and they
00:04:51.980 ended up in Utah and they were like yeah we're not getting booted out anymore we don't want
00:04:56.320 anybody on our land they they had made uh brigham young the governor of utah and that gave them some
00:05:05.620 power and they had an army they had their own militia and they they were just killing people
00:05:13.820 i didn't know this i even looked it up afterwards and there's you know some dramatization to this
00:05:21.220 american primeval uh series uh but that part of it was yeah they they massacred a bunch of people
00:05:31.260 and it's like i think the mormons and scientology are a couple of religions that you could kind of
00:05:39.520 really goof on without much pushback you're not really going to get a lot of pushback from it
00:05:45.840 uh christianity of course uh you'll get pushback but it seems you could goof on it with impunity 0.94
00:05:53.060 i mean that whole idea that jesus christ superstar with the the black woman witch from wicked 0.63
00:05:59.540 they showed her uh with the crown of thorns and she's up on this neon light crucifix
00:06:08.420 singing and she looks like nosferatu and it's just uh it was infuriating
00:06:16.280 but we don't do anything about it see that's the problem we don't really go oh hey that's 0.98
00:06:23.980 gotta stop try that with islam give that a give that a whirl a whirl or with israel try really
00:06:32.700 you know criticizing that whole thing see where that gets you try goofing on it you know make a
00:06:39.140 little joke about uh uh islam or or um the jewish religion christianity you could goof on that to 0.55
00:06:51.840 your heart's content no one's gonna do it they'll get mad they'll comment on it but uh mormons and
00:06:57.480 scientology it's like everyone's goof punching bag kind of a thing so i didn't know i would have 0.53
00:07:03.000 thought a show like this they really would have been out in full force protesting like mormons
00:07:10.700 going no this is terrible but there hasn't really been a pushback and it's the number one watched
00:07:16.920 show on netflix right now uh very entertaining they got a couple of uh pretty good actors in it
00:07:23.480 uh but a couple of things were ridiculous that's what i was talking about it third by the third
00:07:28.700 episode it gets a little ridiculous there's one part where a woman she's in this little pioneer 0.80
00:07:34.020 um uh wagon train thing and the mormons and indians unite for a moment to kill the entire 0.76
00:07:41.940 uh bunch of pioneers and some of them lived through it and the women lived through it so they 0.96
00:07:48.180 kind of just gave them to these indians and the indians killed all of them but one because the 0.91
00:07:53.000 woman was kind of strong and one of the braves saw her and was like oh she looking strong will 0.98
00:07:59.080 take her back to my teepee and that's what happened and like within a week she's wearing
00:08:07.600 indian clothes and and totally sympathetic to the indian cause and she's all she's almost speaking
00:08:15.340 indian a week went by her husband is still looking for her he was another survivor and she's just
00:08:22.200 like ah i am with you now it was so ridiculous so the writing definitely falls off after the
00:08:32.160 first couple of episodes in every single one of these limited or mini series that uh that they
00:08:40.700 put out so uh i i found it funny though i found it pretty entertaining it's action-packed uh uh
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