The Anthony Cumia Show - April 07, 2025


Robert Funaro ｜ 04-06-25


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Actor Robert Finaro joins me to discuss his life and career on HBO's The Sopranos, including his role as Tony Soprano on the hit show, "Sopranos: A Series of Unsolved Murders."

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00:01:00.400 tonight i mean i've told everybody up there in new york at the station i said um any sopranos
00:01:09.880 people you could get me please get me i've spoken to a few in the past on my previous programs and
00:01:16.700 whatnot and i am a huge fan of the show uh more so than anybody people go oh no i'm a fan too 0.98
00:01:22.560 No, I've watched the damn thing 20 times over.
00:01:27.020 And Robert Finaro, how are you, my friend? 0.95
00:01:30.360 Anthony, it's a pleasure to be here.
00:01:31.960 Thank you so much for inviting me on your show.
00:01:33.860 I'm doing fine.
00:01:35.080 I love it.
00:01:36.740 You, of course, were Eugene Pontecorvo on The Sopranos and a peripheral character until that Members Only episode, which is just so...
00:01:52.560 pivotal it's a pivotal episode to the entire uh series yeah you were yeah you were uh you were
00:02:02.060 of course uh in that episode featured but a lot of things happened in that episode that's the
00:02:07.380 episode uh it was the first episode of season six and and tony uh gets shot uh at the end of that
00:02:14.720 episode by uncle jr so a lot was going on there but your storyline was pretty pivotal but here's
00:02:21.200 something else you were you were a standout character in so many things memorable uh events
00:02:29.620 of the show when you smash the bottle into paulie little paulie's face it's one of it's one yeah
00:02:39.680 yeah it's one of the best uh like memorable funny moments and again only the sopranos could do those
00:02:47.420 violent moments and have them hysterically funny um but you always popped up in in in moments like
00:02:55.000 that and uh busting balls busting balls never seems to work does it robert oh never does never
00:03:01.880 does yeah both uh those episodes are really pivotal into the you know my my my time on the 0.50
00:03:08.360 sopranos but up until you know members only it was that snapple bottle people would come up to me and
00:03:14.380 And it's a nice shot.
00:03:16.440 And I said, well, I'd be remembered.
00:03:18.220 I studied Shakespeare.
00:03:19.760 I did all this classical.
00:03:21.120 I'll be remembered by a snapple bottle.
00:03:22.940 So when I got the script for Members Only, when David called me up because he called everybody up and he said, I got good news and bad news.
00:03:29.040 And what's the good news, David?
00:03:30.140 Well, the good news is we wrote this show and it's all about you and you're a big part of the show.
00:03:34.540 What's the bad news?
00:03:35.120 You're dead.
00:03:35.580 but uh you know when i read the script you know i came what came to mind was and i don't compare
00:03:43.040 myself with marlon brandon but he talked about waterfront i could have been a contender could
00:03:46.460 have been somebody it's the way people felt that you know they could have been somebody so i felt
00:03:50.700 like with eugene he wanted to get out how many people want to get out especially nowadays from
00:03:55.440 what they're doing especially with all the 401k i wish i got out could i get out prior to all this
00:04:00.920 stuff but anyway so i knew that it would be a show that people would be remembered and they would
00:04:05.800 feel the pain that i felt and and of course they went through it already so it was it was such a
00:04:13.820 great uh episode and and storyline for you because it showed this hope that maybe you could get out
00:04:22.920 of the situation you were in and the delusion of of somebody thinking you know i could just leave
00:04:31.340 i could just pick up and leave i have money you were given that inheritance a couple of million
00:04:36.980 bucks and you think well as long as i have the money i can just start a new life but you got
00:04:43.000 yourself in in so deep yeah that there was no getting out well terry winter who won the emmy
00:04:48.660 world for that particular episode that year you know for the best dramatic episode i was great
00:04:52.940 glad to you know really blessed to be a part of it they just kept on creating things like my son
00:04:57.940 with the with the drugs and everything making kind of like the walls close in on me you know and so
00:05:03.840 right he kept they kept like oh we'll get a new thing for you to do before you hang yourself so
00:05:08.860 okay um you know so it was just like really a lot of pressure under pressure yeah to fit that
00:05:15.220 into one episode because obviously you were there um from i think season three yes was it yeah you
00:05:22.260 were there uh but but you know season six episode one your storyline really picks up and then
00:05:31.620 comes to fruition by the end of the episode it's the end of you yes or the you know the end of uh
00:05:38.420 Eugene, of course.
00:05:41.260 Did you have any issues with the script going,
00:05:45.400 well, you're kind of wrapping it up pretty quickly here?
00:05:48.420 No, I mean, the thing was, it was a great script, Anthony.
00:05:53.700 And as I said in the example of Waterfront,
00:05:57.820 I knew that I'd be remembered for people can empathize
00:06:01.380 with this kind of person, with Eugene.
00:06:03.820 And a lot of people come up to me,
00:06:05.500 and the first thing they say, he should have let you out,
00:06:07.400 Should have let you go to Florida, you know?
00:06:09.620 So, I mean, this is what happens.
00:06:11.700 But we didn't know about Tony getting shot.
00:06:14.540 So the scripts were really kept very clandestinely.
00:06:17.580 And there were no leaks.
00:06:19.360 So I didn't even know myself until I watched it that Tony was going to get shot.
00:06:24.920 Yeah, you know what?
00:06:25.580 Another thing is that people don't realize is because Tony's the bad guy in that episode going,
00:06:30.740 ah, come on, let Eugene go with his wife and go to Florida.
00:06:34.040 What are you, a hockey player?
00:06:35.240 Yeah.
00:06:35.520 Well, what are you, Wayne Gretzky?
00:06:38.520 You don't retire from this thing of ours.
00:06:40.820 Yeah, nice, nice, nice, nice.
00:06:43.200 Thank you.
00:06:43.660 It was, they don't understand.
00:06:45.660 It wasn't just Tony.
00:06:47.380 The FBI, who you had already flipped, you'd gone to the FBI.
00:06:53.280 They told you, give up on the Florida dream.
00:06:56.700 But everyone, for some reason, everyone thinks Tony was the one that kept you from going to Florida.
00:07:01.960 But even if he said, okay, you were never getting out from under the FBI. 0.97
00:07:05.520 No, I mean, you know how many people come up to me and say, you were a rat.
00:07:09.080 And I tell them, I wasn't a rat because nothing I ever said implicated Tony. 0.92
00:07:15.460 I killed myself.
00:07:16.380 You know what I'm saying?
00:07:17.040 I didn't stool out on the guy.
00:07:18.540 I wasn't a stool pigeon.
00:07:19.500 But how many people come up to me and say, you shouldn't have said anything.
00:07:21.860 I didn't say nothing.
00:07:22.880 I didn't do anything.
00:07:23.440 Oh, my God.
00:07:25.020 It's crazy here in New York City. 1.00
00:07:26.780 These fans are crazy, these soprano fans. 0.99
00:07:28.840 Now, believe me, I understand this.
00:07:30.860 And every time I read stuff, because you always get questions about the last episode, you get questions about things that happened during the entire series.
00:07:40.420 And the answer a lot of the actors and people involved in the show give is, well, it was in the script.
00:07:47.220 You know, it was written that way.
00:07:48.520 But there is this element where I think the person that played the character and put that much work into developing the character can make these assumptions on what might have happened that wasn't in the show based on your knowledge of the character himself.
00:08:07.320 And I want to ask you a question that kind of goes on those lines.
00:08:11.240 What do you think was the most likely reason Eugene would have flipped?
00:08:15.600 well to get out i mean i mean that was the only way to get out he would get a witness protection
00:08:23.440 program like some of the people we know i won't name names but that was his you know that was the
00:08:29.320 thing they could get him out and and he would flip but it wasn't going to happen so in that case
00:08:34.020 he was going to in that case when he found that out then that was it but you know a lot of this
00:08:38.820 stuff i talk about in the homemade book the recipe book and all right please yes don't let me stop
00:08:44.380 Go ahead.
00:08:45.460 Go ahead.
00:08:46.500 So I talk about how I met James.
00:08:48.760 We did Street Con Named Desire eight, nine years prior to Sopranos.
00:08:53.900 Right.
00:08:54.320 And we toured Scandinavia.
00:08:56.240 And one day came down to Caroline's, found out where I was working.
00:08:59.320 And through a friend at the comedy club, went up to him at a party, said, I get a job for
00:09:03.280 your friend, Bobby, for now.
00:09:04.760 And he came down.
00:09:06.160 He went with Joe Fay, his driver.
00:09:07.840 And he knew I was at a comedy club, but he tried three or four of them until he found
00:09:11.940 me at Caroline's.
00:09:12.620 He couldn't remember the club.
00:09:14.280 And he offered me an audition.
00:09:15.760 And from then on, in 2000, I began working on the show.
00:09:19.060 I landed a role.
00:09:19.740 He couldn't promise me anything, but he said, I'll get you the audition.
00:09:22.280 So he sent the elevator down as Jack Lemmon said, but all these things are in Homemade,
00:09:26.900 but in the book that I wrote.
00:09:28.160 And they're coupled with great Italian recipes.
00:09:31.220 And I took eight episodes, and I kind of put them together because I'm really not a writer.
00:09:37.060 And when Andrew Angelica, my manager, who co-wrote the book, said, let's do a book. 0.83
00:09:41.940 I said, you're crazy. 0.93
00:09:42.640 Another book by a soprano or an actor, it's nuts. 0.91
00:09:46.120 So if I can bookend it, I'll pick eight episodes.
00:09:48.860 I'll talk about The Sopranos, and I'll couple it with a recipe.
00:09:51.560 And it's simple, and it's interesting.
00:09:54.280 Do you have Mario Batelli's green beans and parmesan?
00:09:58.120 Oh, Tony the Gnocchi, you got to have.
00:10:02.280 I got a copy for you, too.
00:10:04.080 I left it at the studio here.
00:10:05.120 Thank you.
00:10:05.720 I'll pick that up this coming weekend.
00:10:07.900 I'm going up to New York.
00:10:09.720 You a New York guy?
00:10:10.980 Yes, I am.
00:10:11.700 Brooklyn-born, Coney Island, and then moved over to Staten Island.
00:10:18.560 You are New York.
00:10:19.500 What did you do early days in the city?
00:10:21.760 You mentioned Caroline's.
00:10:23.060 I used to go there when I was doing the O&A show and all the comics would do our show.
00:10:30.340 Caroline's was great.
00:10:31.400 Yeah, it was great, and it's closed.
00:10:32.920 It's such a shame.
00:10:34.260 It really was like a landmark, and they let it close.
00:10:39.180 I couldn't believe it.
00:10:40.060 It was all about money, Anthony.
00:10:41.320 It's always about that.
00:10:42.860 But it should have never happened.
00:10:44.380 The scuddle.
00:10:45.040 The scuddle.
00:10:46.060 It was Broadway.
00:10:47.260 You know, Broadway.
00:10:48.280 And the comedians were great.
00:10:49.520 Charles Fleischer.
00:10:51.120 Seinfeld came in from time to time.
00:10:52.900 And, you know, great.
00:10:54.860 Dave Chappelle.
00:10:56.400 Jim Gaffigan.
00:10:58.140 Jimmy, not Jimmy Kimmel.
00:11:00.080 Not Jimmy Kimmel.
00:11:01.300 Jimmy Fallon.
00:11:02.060 Jimmy Fallon.
00:11:02.860 Right.
00:11:03.120 Jimmy Fallon.
00:11:04.020 I knew Jimmy Fallon when he had a guitar at his tail between trying to get his set.
00:11:08.780 I knew him before he blew up.
00:11:11.320 Which is hilarious because he looks like a kid now.
00:11:15.160 Yeah.
00:11:15.720 When you saw him back in those days, it's like a 12-year-old was walking around trying to make it in comedy and stuff.
00:11:23.200 Yeah, he was just like, he had his guitar and he was so nice.
00:11:27.620 Then I saw him on the set because I did one of his first films and they cut me out too.
00:11:33.140 I'm going to get him for that.
00:11:34.680 I did a little small spot and I can't believe I knew this guy and he let him cut me out. 0.98
00:11:41.320 bastards yeah that's how it is though you know you've been in it you know you know how uh yeah 0.96
00:11:47.940 but us italians anthony we got loyalty and trust we don't do these things you're right you're right 0.64
00:11:55.180 it's all about loyalty trust family you know these things it is uh i guess what was i guess
00:12:05.320 that was the reason that david chase chose so many italians to play italians in the sopranos
00:12:12.180 yeah i mean it's really a metaphor for i mean if you watched his documentary which is good yeah
00:12:17.620 i mean it's really a metaphor for his his his whole entire life but he used his life he used
00:12:22.940 um tony soprano as a you know an example of his life it's ironic of course he wrote for northern
00:12:29.560 exposure and everything but it's everything he went through the therapist and stuff like that
00:12:33.760 I mean, I'm not saying I don't know anything about that, but I I know that, you know, Tony, even though he had all that stuff, he was still miserable.
00:12:41.640 Yeah. Yeah. I would. He couldn't get over it. You know, I would defy anybody to be able to write a character like Livia Soprano without having lived somebody like that.
00:12:54.460 You can't just pull that out of thin air. That was an amazingly horrific character in the series. 0.60
00:13:02.700 you know jules feiffer jules feiffer the great writer he just passed away he wrote some plays
00:13:08.500 he has this one piece in this this play called hold me it's about a um a person it's called
00:13:15.180 pulitzer prize he did this he won the pulitzer prize and his his father was never impressed
00:13:20.900 and he says he says uh um i won the nobel peace prize my father dropped dead who says you can't
00:13:28.640 win them all it's like tony soprano and livia you know yeah yeah yeah well there's so many uh
00:13:35.600 subtle lines in that show that harken back to other things when uh when livia used to go oh
00:13:43.380 poor you and then when tony turns to uh carmella during their big argument um right that emmy
00:13:51.920 award-winning argument and he goes oh poor you like those little things and you catch these on
00:13:59.420 the third fourth viewing of the entire series which i i i'm honest with you it may be 10 11
00:14:05.600 times i lost count how many times i watched all the way through and you always catch little things
00:14:11.260 like oh i i didn't realize that connected to this and and that kind of goes into something else i
00:14:17.280 want to ask you you were you initially tried out or they wanted you for ralph cifaretto what what
00:14:22.820 happened there i auditioned for ralph cifaretto so when i did i did stanley and with with james
00:14:28.860 and he played mitch so that stanley that i did because he was antagonistic stanley and
00:14:34.460 james thought of me for for ralph cifaretto so i landed the role and i signed the contract
00:14:41.980 But then when we started shooting, there was a chemistry that, you know, and finally David said, you know, you're just too nice, too nice guys.
00:14:51.460 And he didn't like the chemistry.
00:14:53.160 And they tried to, they started graying my hair to make this contrast because we're two big guys.
00:14:58.980 And, you know, it just didn't work, you know, that antagonistic thing.
00:15:02.980 So they chose, you know, Joe Pantaleone, who was great.
00:15:08.620 And then David said, you still want to be on a show?
00:15:12.320 Of course I want to be on a show.
00:15:14.040 No, I'm out.
00:15:15.520 No, I don't want to be on a show.
00:15:17.220 I'm out of here.
00:15:18.180 So I'm going to be another story.
00:15:19.760 How many stories have you heard, Anthony?
00:15:21.720 Like, oh, yeah, he was there, but they didn't like him.
00:15:24.400 And now he's working, whatever he's working.
00:15:27.060 I turned him down.
00:15:28.280 How many stories?
00:15:29.500 And that band I turned down was the Beatles.
00:15:32.160 I could have been a contender.
00:15:33.580 I could have been somebody.
00:15:35.180 There you go.
00:15:35.900 But David didn't like it.
00:15:36.840 They didn't like it.
00:15:37.360 So anyway, James didn't let that happen.
00:15:39.300 I think James, they kept me on the show.
00:15:42.140 Terrence went to somebody to create a character.
00:15:43.580 His name is Eugene.
00:15:44.220 Who is Eugene?
00:15:44.820 Don't worry about it.
00:15:45.480 We'll find out who he is as we go along.
00:15:47.240 And that's what they did.
00:15:48.080 A lot of the surprise, we hung out in the studio of Silver Cup.
00:15:50.920 And the writers got to know us and everything.
00:15:52.720 Like we went to the racetrack and that great scene with that.
00:15:55.960 I forgot the character's name.
00:15:57.340 He said, I won.
00:15:57.860 I won.
00:15:58.220 I won.
00:15:58.780 I won.
00:15:59.040 I won.
00:15:59.260 And I don't know.
00:16:00.740 I think Stevie looks at the ticket.
00:16:02.680 He says, oh, you won $3.
00:16:04.320 Yeah, $3.
00:16:04.840 that really that really happened to show that really happened and yeah i don't want to name
00:16:11.780 the name who would it happen to but i say it in a book who would happen to it's it's pretty
00:16:16.480 interesting that you know you as a character eugene's character i mean he was a sympathetic
00:16:23.160 character and that's odd because we see him shoot a man in the face yeah uh we see him you know
00:16:30.540 involved with some pretty terrible things
00:16:32.940 and somehow he's sympathetic
00:16:35.100 whereas Ralph
00:16:36.760 even when his son
00:16:39.000 was shot with the arrow
00:16:40.600 and he's crying and hugging
00:16:42.640 Tony you just could not
00:16:44.840 muster up sympathy for that
00:16:46.720 guy and I think that might have been what
00:16:48.680 they saw in
00:16:50.220 the difference between you playing Ralph
00:16:52.620 and
00:16:53.160 what's his name? Oh my god I'm terrible
00:16:56.460 Joe Pantaleone. Yeah Pants 1.00
00:16:58.240 Yeah, but Joey Pants.
00:16:59.680 Yeah, no, I think so.
00:17:00.680 I mean, they got to know us and everything, and they got to know who I was as a person, as I said.
00:17:05.820 And they came up with that script.
00:17:07.840 I really never sat down with Terry and asked him, you know, how did you come up with that?
00:17:11.900 Where did you get that?
00:17:12.780 Was it a daydream?
00:17:13.660 Was it a dream itself?
00:17:15.260 Did you read about it in a book or just wanted to hang me?
00:17:18.800 What's up with that?
00:17:19.720 Right, right.
00:17:20.420 It was really great.
00:17:21.640 As I said, you know, I think it was a blessing from God for myself, you know what I mean?
00:17:25.340 it really was because it opened up it opened up so many doors for me and uh still to this day
00:17:30.000 really it's uh people really remember it you know no doubt i and i you know i wonder a lot of people
00:17:36.520 wonder because it's kind of a common question about uh when you're in that moment and you're
00:17:41.280 filming uh those episodes and maybe not by episode six i think by that point you guys knew that you
00:17:48.460 were on a juggernaut uh but early on even season three when you you came on uh the longevity of
00:17:56.440 this the passion for the sopranos did you did you have that uh that clue um and coming in on season
00:18:05.920 three it wasn't it really was I wasn't apparent to me but as I progressed and I said man this is
00:18:11.300 like the Beatles man this is what they must have felt like you know going opening at the Ziegfeld
00:18:15.500 with a million people there and, you know, especially season six.
00:18:18.580 Look, this is the same feeling as the Beatles.
00:18:20.140 I want to play this song again and again and again, you know.
00:18:23.120 But you really, Anthony, the main thing is that as an actor,
00:18:26.020 you don't really know what you have when you're doing it.
00:18:28.740 It's like you're standing on a whale and you're fishing for minnows.
00:18:31.360 You know what I mean?
00:18:32.140 You really are like, it's just like that.
00:18:35.080 It just goes so fast.
00:18:37.000 It is.
00:18:37.580 The hindsight you get to.
00:18:39.080 If it happened again on another show, I just, you know,
00:18:41.840 every actor just wants to work and, you know.
00:18:44.800 so it's uh it's a real it was a real blessing i you know you can't listen you can't get it back
00:18:49.840 you can't look at look look at yesterday you got to move on move forward right no not at all you
00:18:55.200 could appreciate what you had and and obviously the fans uh you know you could appreciate that
00:19:00.440 we're going to take a real quick break we'll come back with you robert and uh talk about a few
00:19:05.480 things especially you know the members only jacket the restaurant the thing all that that
00:19:11.220 you've talked about a thousand times but i got you and i need to hear about this we'll be back
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00:20:53.760 to robert panaro eugene pantacorvo nice sopranos oh you got to trill those r's man
00:21:01.480 i love it um robin i i i gotta ask you first of all you know everybody that that died on the show
00:21:10.520 got that talk and you you spoke about that earlier um from david chase but you had to get
00:21:16.900 hey not only die but you're a rat too what what was worse for you i i'm of course leaving the 0.95
00:21:27.000 show if you're you're dead but it's like ah do you got to make me a rat too yeah um you know they 0.99
00:21:32.980 add a lot of that stuff because they as i said they wanted the walls to close in on on eugene 0.65
00:21:38.360 but no i really never considered myself because i knew the ending that i that i was a rat that i
00:21:43.220 wasn't going to get out so i mean i mean it showed this this compact you know this compassion i guess
00:21:50.660 for my wife and my child you know what i mean to get out so i mean it just added to you know it
00:21:55.400 just added that resistance just made the character we fleshed out the character even more but i you
00:22:01.140 know as i said to you before i really never considered myself a rat because i don't think
00:22:05.480 i would have ever really implicated tony um really wholeheartedly you know what i mean but you had to
00:22:11.880 know anyone would have to know being a rat isn't going to end well it doesn't end well for a lot
00:22:17.380 of the people on the show yeah uh so you know you're probably like ah i was just thinking maybe
00:22:23.940 you thought it might have sullied the character a little bit like,
00:22:27.240 ah, God, I don't want to be a rat before I die.
00:22:29.540 Yeah, no, I really never thought about it because I guess I knew the ending,
00:22:32.660 you know, so I really never thought about it.
00:22:34.400 I really didn't look at it that way.
00:22:34.920 See, that's another fan question where I'm like, and you go, 0.98
00:22:38.040 dude, it's the script, shut up.
00:22:39.980 Well, it's like I told you before, people come up to me and they say, 0.95
00:22:43.080 well, you know, if it did happen that way, you're probably right,
00:22:45.260 I would have implicated Tony and went on the witness protection program.
00:22:49.120 Right, right.
00:22:49.760 but uh like um sammy right yeah yeah sammy it didn't it didn't happen it didn't happen you know
00:22:56.720 so i i also gotta uh ask you because uh your your death scene is one of the most graphic
00:23:06.000 disturbing death scenes in cinema history anyone's uh death that uh how did you feel about that when
00:23:14.560 you watched it back even though you were there doing it did you think like my god that is brutal
00:23:20.460 it kept me on that rope a long time i know yeah i mean um i think it's one of the longest
00:23:27.500 maybe on television um it's because they usually they show the rope boom and you know what i mean
00:23:32.680 and then they shoot right they um close up of the legs or something close up of something and then
00:23:38.660 they cut away but uh it made it made it uh and it just that that like a turkish toffee kind of a
00:23:45.820 thing but you know i did a little research into it like if you see me like kind of with the reflexes
00:23:51.200 and everything like that i i spoke to my brother who's a physician and uh richard fanaro my brother
00:23:56.260 and and he and he told me that sometimes when that happens there's a little reflexive action
00:24:01.680 just before you you kick the bucket kind of uh your last breath or whatever if there was a last
00:24:07.360 breath because you're on our rope but uh so that um you know i put that in there myself and you
00:24:12.420 know tim when i was doing it you know he just came up to me and and said to me tim van patten great
00:24:17.580 director yeah how does someone direct you know emmy award-winning director and he just said you
00:24:22.020 know just stay with it because you know between takes just stay with it we really never stepped
00:24:25.580 away uh i stayed with it and stay in the in that in that in that time period you know stay in that
00:24:32.540 and then with that feeling you know and um we i think we captured that that moment and i think
00:24:37.720 his fear um really came came across that essence of the fear what you know losing your life yeah
00:24:44.300 i mean so the the uh it's that slow gradient movement off the mortal coil yeah at first it's
00:24:51.960 a struggle and then he and then they put on i'm sorry to interrupt you but that when terry put
00:24:56.740 in that the the portfolio when i was looking at my son and the when i'm looking at that the
00:25:01.680 portfolio i mean uh what is that the uh what do you call those uh i guess the picture the pictures
00:25:07.120 of an album yeah yeah the photo album yes um i thought that was poignant and that was just great
00:25:12.620 terry writing that and then juxtaposed to on the rope you know what i mean to my art that shot
00:25:17.480 close-up of the eyes it was really cool the way they put that together you know well that was
00:25:22.140 another thing because because you say how these things are usually done and yeah there's kind of a
00:25:27.960 pat thing that they do when someone hangs themselves in a movie
00:25:31.460 to not make it that disturbing.
00:25:33.280 And it's kind of been done before.
00:25:35.680 But this one, the transition from you looking at the album
00:25:39.900 and then seeing your face and you just look very pale
00:25:43.760 and very distraught and disturbed.
00:25:46.480 And no one knows at that moment that you have a noose around your neck.
00:25:50.640 And it was a little, not believing, not even close,
00:25:54.260 but reminiscent of Shawshank when, what's his name?
00:25:58.880 Charles Wickham.
00:26:00.440 Yeah, yes.
00:26:01.480 When he hung himself, because it was unexpected.
00:26:03.840 It looked like he was just going to carve his name up there.
00:26:06.020 It's that unexpected thing where everyone just goes,
00:26:08.660 oh my God, that's insane.
00:26:11.180 Yeah, well, as an actor, I mean, I really,
00:26:13.080 there was no method to that.
00:26:14.360 Just the thought of being up there
00:26:15.960 and doing that itself, committing suicide was just,
00:26:20.060 and you know what?
00:26:20.780 it's funny because i had some people some fans call me up and say you know what bobby uh i really
00:26:27.200 i was thinking about committee and and you saved my life i mean believe it or not people have
00:26:32.700 one or two people have told me that and i said wow that's that's cool man i'm glad you you stick
00:26:37.200 you stuck around you know bob just fantastic talk to you i gotta run we're on a schedule here for
00:26:43.360 some reason but thank you robert finero uh your book yes spit it out real quick homemade by robert
00:26:48.800 For now, we'll be at Chico & Sons in Northfield, New Jersey, Tilton Road, April 26th, and in Barnes & Noble in Brick, New Jersey, April 27th at 12 p.m. both times, signing autographs, taking pictures.
00:27:04.660 And at Chico & Sons, we'll make the best heroes.
00:27:07.700 They are giving away a free hero, the Eugene, with a signed copy of the book, if you like to have it, you know, buy the book.
00:27:14.600 Thanks so much.
00:27:15.540 Thank you very much, Anthony.
00:27:16.280 Thank you, Bob.
00:27:16.760 Good talking to you, man.
00:27:17.680 Great talking to you.
00:27:18.320 Thank you.
00:27:18.800 Later. Be right back.