00:05:51.940but uh it's just you know it's been a great relationship over the course of the years
00:05:57.580and now we're actually working at the same place i'm astounded and um i kind of got in the mood
00:06:06.440uh last night by listening to old bob grant clips bob grant was just a legendary broadcaster back in
00:06:14.420uh on wabc uh back in the 80s and 90s and uh he he could uh he could be a little curmudgeonly
00:06:22.700every so often if you get a chance his stuff is is online and he just would yell at the callers and0.98
00:06:29.500it was hilariously funny get off my phone you skunk i'll punch your nose down your throat1.00
00:06:39.260i don't know you're an idiot is why it was some of the the greatest radio i've ever heard i was1.00
00:06:48.260a huge fan of bob and i would listen to bob on wabc many many years ago and again i was working1.00
00:06:56.000for a living i was a construction worker until i was about 35 years old so i would listen to radio
00:07:01.820guys like bob grant to be god how how the hell do you do that and the the thought was like i had
00:07:09.060no clue about radio or how to even start it uh when you're working pretty much um hand to mouth
00:07:16.640the money you make it doesn't leave time for school or even you know the columbia school of
00:07:21.760broadcasting uh it didn't leave any time for any of that so you just work and time goes by and you
00:07:28.760have these dreams and aspirations and you know for the most part without that element of luck
00:07:34.260they never really come to fruition and it's sad sad for a lot of people i consider myself
00:07:41.020unbelievably lucky for how i got into the radio business uh many years ago on opie's show on wbab
00:07:52.520out on long island new york i'm a long island guy um and then we moved on to boston waf and then
00:08:02.520new york wnew and we were um let me let me try to explain to some of the kids in the audience
00:08:10.320what we were we were a creature that was known as the shock jock not kidding that was an actual
00:08:20.140thing children gather around gather around and i'll tell you a story about the shock jock
00:08:26.000This was a real job in radio a few years ago, and what it took was for the shock jock to be the worst possible human being you could find, just irritating, obnoxious.
00:08:42.660All they talked about was sexual innuendo and body functions and sexual innuendo, racial jokes, misogynistic jokes.
00:08:54.720it was supposed to be here comes the name shocking so this job as a shock jock was given to a few
00:09:04.720people over the course of the years i guess howard was considered a shock jock years ago and man cow
00:09:10.200and um there's so many around the country and opie and anthony we were shock jocks uh and the
00:09:18.060The really weird, bad part about being a shock shock is you're not liked.
00:09:25.600The GM and the PD at the station, the higher-ups, they love what you're doing if you're getting them ratings.
00:09:39.180And the only real line there was at the time was the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC.
00:09:46.660They look over broadcast radio and in hindsight right now, the FCC seems like something nostalgic and quaint, cute to only have to worry about those dreaded seven dirty words and getting a little too detailed with descriptions of bodily functions and sex acts.
00:10:07.140it was uh easy to adhere to the rules and if you went over the rules you had a team of corporate
00:10:14.900lawyers that would uh meet with the fcc and fight the battle for you you never knew it
00:10:19.600you never knew what was going on they told you hey you said this i don't even remember
00:10:24.160so in time uh that changed the shock jock was vulnerable because and i'll tell you why
00:10:35.840people started getting a voice and radio stations started getting uh bought up by big companies
00:10:44.960yeah so the old radio station where the owner could sit you down and go hey you're being a0.98
00:10:52.800jerk here let's uh let's do something to remedy the problem you caused once a bunch of companies0.98
00:11:00.180bought the stations uh it was all about you know they're interfering with our detergent and diaper0.60
00:11:05.540sales because they said something about the gay community or women or something so uh it got more
00:11:14.280difficult to defend yourself and the higher-ups would never defend you and the reason i really
00:11:22.040liked going to abc and talking to everybody there is it's one of those kind of old school
00:11:28.240radio stations where there's a genuine owner and there's the boss and the staff and they're all
00:11:34.720happy to be there and and working hard to win and they don't also have a side gig uh selling tires0.84
00:11:43.080where you say something stupid and all of a sudden they're looking at their uh tire properties uh
00:11:49.560tanking on the stock market so it it just it's so well suited for uh what i do and of course0.98
00:11:57.020which Sid does and everybody else here at ABC, WABC.
00:12:02.860So even in podcasting, which I went into after my last firing
00:12:26.560It's the angry mob of people with phones, with the ability to email your boss and the board of directors and everyone else that you said something that offended them.
00:12:41.720In the old days, people had to, I swear to you, they had to sit down and write a letter.
00:12:48.440They wrote a letter to the Federal Communications Commission.
00:12:55.240and then you have to be mad enough after you sat down wrote the letter put it in the envelope sealed
00:13:02.180it put a stamp on it drove to a mailbox and maybe gave it that last thought before you dropped it in
00:13:09.340the mailbox you had to still be going oh i'm very angry at that shock jock and i would imagine it's
00:13:18.460It's only in human nature that most people probably cooled off enough to not do that.
00:13:24.360Well, with the invention and distribution of the smartphones especially, but even in the old days, the flip phones, people had the ability to send a complaint, not so much to the FCC, to your bosses, to their employees, to all your bosses and supervisors, to the board of directors, to the sponsors.0.99
00:13:46.540They were able to just send one button, and now you have all those complaints sitting out there on your ass.0.97
00:13:56.520So it got very hard to be a shock jock at that point.0.99
00:15:35.620We'd grab our phones and you see it now.
00:15:38.800You just turn on record and get someone in trouble
00:15:42.980or you heard something that no one else would have heard
00:15:46.660and then you direct it toward whatever group you assume will be offended by it.
00:15:52.920So you're the one exposing whoever to the offensive material.
00:15:57.200and in the past decade especially that has taken off man i've known so many people that lost their
00:16:07.200livelihood their careers certain family members disown them just smear campaigns and this was
00:16:14.280stuff that you know back in that shock jock day was just looked at like business business as usual
00:16:22.220So it just became impossible to do that type of radio.
00:16:27.920And I think the other factor, when you talk about the shock jock and shocking days, again, it involves the phones and the Internet and the ability to get so much on your phone.
00:16:43.460What the hell could a disc jockey do that could shock you now?0.99
00:16:51.540today i mean honestly uh-oh uh robin remember howard robin she's topless whoo oh howard and
00:17:02.940it was just like a topless girl and listeners would be like whoa look out that's shocking
00:17:08.020i guess it was it was fun it was one of those things we we used to do things on the ona show
00:17:15.040that were downright terrible, just terrible.
00:17:20.760And they paid us ridiculous amounts of money to do this, by the way.
00:17:25.020Shock jocks, I think, as far as radio personalities go,
00:17:28.740were amongst the best paid people on radio.
00:17:31.740You could be a music jock and know every B-side to every band that ever lived.
00:17:36.640And if you're spinning records and doing two for Tuesdays, they didn't care.
00:27:46.420oh yeah welcome back a nice little break oh for 11 years doing podcasts i never was able to take
00:28:01.640even a breather it was a solid couple of hours of yapping couldn't even get up and use the
00:28:08.840restroom as they say but uh now see i get a little breather it's nice welcome back the
00:28:17.600anthony cumia show right here on wabc um the entertainment business and i was kind of touching
00:28:24.220on that with the first break about what's been going on in radio and podcasting but
00:28:27.900even mainstream media the television tv shows movies i'm honest i don't know one tv show that's
00:28:38.720on network television right now and i'm pretty savvy with this stuff i'm not somebody that's like0.91
00:28:43.400by gum they've passed me by with that idiot box i don't i i i've never gotten to that point0.92
00:28:51.200of age i haven't aged out of television i've maybe intellectually um passed by0.99
00:29:01.620uh television it all seems like such drivel this this uh pc nonsense and i even hate using pc
00:29:12.700because it's so dated a dated term but i don't know what else to say everything's got to please0.75
00:29:19.640everybody all these shows have to please have to have every type of person sexually racially
00:29:27.180everything and and that's more important than good acting and the writing it's not edgy or
00:29:35.820compelling anymore it's just terrible and don't let netflix or or uh amazon uh fool you they put
00:29:44.720out shows and the first episode will hook you i've done this plenty of times and i feel like a sap
00:29:53.700every time it happens to me i'll put a show on and go oh wait that seems this seems kind of cool
00:30:00.180it's good premise maybe a sci-fi thing a little weird and you watch the first episode it hooks0.82
00:30:06.260you you're in now within three or four subsequent episodes i'm like this sucks it's terrible
00:30:15.780and then they're not done with you the new season will come out and you hadn't watched the0.67
00:30:22.500the entirety of the first season so the second season comes out they put a promo on that goes
00:30:28.200oh wait i remember that oh they're doing that now you go back finish season one and start0.98
00:30:33.760watching season two and you realize it sucks they just rope you in with garbage and nonsense0.86
00:30:41.040and uh there's really no uh option to it there's really nothing and believe me i'm not waxing0.96
00:30:48.720fantastic about the old days i remember super train and uh some of these other garbage uh shows
00:30:55.460that were on love boat which used to do great numbers but you watch it now and you're like0.93
00:31:01.220was everyone high or incredibly stupid do they have some type of brain damage because uh those0.96
00:31:09.400shows are not very good either but there were a few good ones you know obviously all in the family0.99
00:31:13.420And then even, this is even over 20 years ago, HBO would pull out shows like, obviously, The Sopranos, Oz, Breaking Bad wasn't on HBO, but obviously another great show.
00:47:21.440And then Donald J. Trump, the escalator ride down the Trump Tower.
00:47:30.800And so many of these celebrities that had an impenetrable barrier of admiration were just naked because they lost their effing minds over Donald Trump.
00:47:49.120when de niro starts talking about how he'll take him out back and beat him up this is a guy in his
00:47:59.54070s and he's talking about beating up at the time another guy in his 70s 70s and de niro like tough
00:48:07.920guy he played a few tough guys in movies that were pretty convincing uh good fellas you know
00:48:18.120He's stomping Billy Batts' head with Pesci.
00:53:04.800And meanwhile, there have been much worse hurricanes and tornadoes and flooding, and they want to make it sound like it's never happened before, yet it's just part of the planet.
00:53:20.480It's how this planet lives and breathes.
00:53:23.140And like Carlin said, we are merely the fleas on the back of a dog when it comes to Mother Earth.
01:09:39.700And it ain't just me being a slob.0.99
01:09:41.440i don't want your garbage i don't want to go into a shower and see one of my buddy's pubes0.98
01:09:48.920on the on the the bathtub spout i want to think about what he's doing in there the soap yeah i go0.99
01:09:58.840to a hotel my friends i suggest you do it too but these spring breakers you know will-o'-the-wisp0.99
01:10:05.520they're young they're inexperienced and uh they just want to you know have some um loose sex and0.94
01:10:11.700drink and and and that they're not thinking about the the problems and the dangers of the airbnbs0.83
01:10:19.520during spring break the uh hot tubs are the problem and i'm sure everything else is the beds
01:10:26.920and everything but uh all of these places especially for spring break have hot tubs
01:10:32.280jacuzzis if you will and uh these things are disgusting petri dishes of bacteria
01:10:42.160and you know why i mean these people are doing ungodly acts in almost boiling water the temperature
01:10:53.460of the water is so so good to foster and grow bacteria in oh they snuggle in there they're the
01:11:03.140the the bacteria has its arms on the edge of the thing and it's looking around going this is
01:11:08.020awesome what a party so uh they go into these things and they get these they get these diseases
01:11:16.580and rashes what was one called it was disgusting it was like legionnaire's disease
01:11:24.400legionnea it was the legionnea virus or something yo legionnea legionnea and
01:11:32.340these these kids are coming home and getting these rashes all over their body and yeah you
01:11:40.080got to assume you have a communicable disease because you've probably been doing terrible things
01:11:43.560uh how do they get into these things one night they're in there they come out the next day and
01:11:51.580it's a giant vat of egg drop soup the whole jacuzzi is just a floating mess of gummy well
01:12:00.340that's what they're doing though they're kids they don't know any better but it reminded me
01:12:06.460you know being that uh we're broadcasting in new york and around the world through the app and the
01:12:11.660website uh but new yorkers might remember of a certain age of my age i never went there
01:12:18.960a place called plato's retreat there used to be things and that probably still is it had to make
01:12:26.200a comeback right what am i naive like they don't have these around anymore but during uh the 80s
01:12:32.280when aids reared its ugly head uh all these bathhouses were closed down department of health
01:12:39.180went into these places like gangbusters and just said you guys are being very naughty and very
01:12:46.680dirty and you are spreading some incredible uh diseases so in the 70s and 80s it was popular for
01:12:56.060men to meet at these places like plato's retreat and you know you think a spring break uh you think
01:13:05.980a spring break jacuzzis bad the skimmers in the pools it looked like a basket of bread pudding
01:13:12.860when they went to clean them i'm not kidding the towel a towel boy told me once uh yeah what they
01:13:19.440would find in that skimmer it was actually evolving into a new life form uh because these
01:13:27.400guys just couldn't control themselves so i don't know if you're going on spring break
01:13:32.180uh you might you might want to watch what you're getting yourself into i i don't think you want to
01:13:43.160any parent by the way i don't know how parents do it i don't have any kids if you don't know me
01:13:50.240i i just don't have any any kids uh it seems like a real hassle i like doing things i like just
01:14:00.540four in the morning if i want to play a video game or you know go out all weekend and do something
01:14:07.740i don't have to worry about a kid i just can't i can't be bothered selfish perhaps
01:14:12.900but i just don't know how parents can go yes sweetie yes my little angel go to spring break
01:14:22.260knowing what goes on there and if you think you know your daughter i know what she's not doing
01:14:29.520someone is i think the vast majority of dads think that their daughter isn't the one
01:14:37.220well then who are all those daughters doing terrible things oh my god it's heart-wrenching
01:14:45.820i think i'm glad i don't have to deal with that but uh i don't know how parents do it
01:14:50.880i don't know how they let them like sometimes i read these stories about how uh their parents
01:14:55.800they chain their daughter to a radiator and uh they're they're found when they're maybe in their
01:15:04.06030s they could barely talk it's like they're feral and the cops put the mug shots up and go oh these
01:15:10.300pieces how did they do this to this poor poor girl and then you see what happens in the real
01:15:17.100world and you go yeah you gotta weigh it out you know maybe it it balances out when uh you know
01:15:25.340You're going to sacrifice your own life going to prison.
01:15:27.240But she didn't go to spring break and go in a jacuzzi and, you know, breathe out of the old flesh snorkel, as they say, if I may be so bold, sir.0.97
01:15:40.400Yeah, so go to a hotel and don't go to spring break, girls.1.00
01:15:45.520Every guy wants to have some type of intimate relationship with you.0.97
01:15:51.100and it's probably not going to bode well that's why i didn't go to college and every girl i knew
01:16:00.300never went to college because it's there's less competition with a bottle of jack daniels
01:16:07.880some cigarettes some budweiser's in your truck in the woods of long island that's when you could
01:16:15.340really make some moves on uh on a girl yeah i'm talking bob seger night moves moves not a
01:16:24.160disgusting jacuzzi at uh at the jersey shore or down in my himmy or something anyway uh my psa
01:16:33.940that's my public service announcement uh fulfilled for uh this day uh we'll be right back don't you
01:17:09.500And I guess we could delve into a little politics or whatever the hell is going on in the world of Washington and all those useless people.0.74
01:17:57.080The White House interns can't even keep up with him.0.99
01:17:59.600All garbage, all absolute lies that was perpetuated by their spokespeople and the mass media, the lying propaganda wing of the left mainstream news media.0.99
01:18:18.240It's like it's like the Democrats had one play.
01:18:23.720they just have one picture you know football teams two of them democrats republicans or trump
01:18:29.900not even republican trump and the democrats and the liberal left and they they have one play and
01:18:38.200and after two maybe even three times you go oh they do this every time they don't have a plan b
01:18:47.640for anything so all they do they saw how damaged they were during the election even the lead up
01:18:54.640did anyone actually believe kamala harris had any chance of of winning i was afraid because i thought
01:19:01.360they'd steal it again but anyone that looked and said in a legitimate on the up and up election0.99
01:19:07.360kamala harris has a good chance of winning was an idiot you're just a complete dope it wasn't1.00
01:19:14.740going to happen but the media lied the excitement behind camilla harris she is a juggernaut look at1.00
01:19:24.380her guy you're like i'm not saying this and they do the same thing they did with hillary the
01:19:29.520celebrities the singers oh beyonce is coming up no one cared how much is the gas i'm pumping into
01:19:38.460my car is the border wide open are our allies taking uh allies supposed allies taking unbelievable0.99
01:19:46.880advantage of us those are the important things not beyonce getting up and and she wouldn't even
01:19:53.380sing she annoyed everybody at camela's rally because she wouldn't sing but i get off the
01:19:59.480beaten path here let me um go what i was talking about was uh the crime the corruption the stealing
01:20:05.660the the unbelievable misallocation and misappropriation of our taxpayer funds
01:20:13.800and trump brought up a great example he brought up quite a few examples at the uh
01:20:19.840joint congressional address he did last week uh one that he brought up specifically was this
01:20:26.520two million dollar scam involving involving uh democrat stacy abrams out of georgia she0.97
01:20:33.440she was in charge of two billion dollars her and another it's an in an organization that she was1.00
01:20:42.060part of but the biden administration right before checking out and trump checking in
01:20:49.260gave her and this organization two billion with a b dollars and the the plan is ludicrous for
01:21:01.560this money it's an insanely big number i mean i don't know if people know billion but if you have0.65
01:21:08.480a pile of a million dollars it's a thousand of those piles you'd you'd you'd crap yourself if
01:21:16.880you saw one pile and it's a million dollars you go wow that's a lot of money now a thousand piles
01:21:23.760in your yard you're just looking at that's one billion there's two of those that's a lot of money
01:21:30.480So she decides she's going to use the money to give free, on our dime, taxpayers' money, free appliances to people in a small town in Georgia, DeSoto.0.98
01:21:50.400And this is going to lower their energy costs.0.99
01:21:54.660And this is something she wanted to sweep the nation.0.99
01:21:57.360and if you do a little math this is in effing sanity listen to this clip she's talking with
01:22:07.220chris hayes over at msnbc which is beyond regular nbc abc cbs news as far as being a propaganda
01:22:17.140they have no credibility journalistic integrity they don't even know what it means all they do
01:22:23.840is toe the company line and they're toeing the line of a company that is gone already
01:22:28.120titanic industries why are you still shilling for an administration that is gone but they have
01:22:36.240they have their marching orders so here's uh chris hayes uh shilling for stacy abrams who then0.96
01:22:43.920tries to explain what this two billion dollar appliance deal is listen to this garbage one of
01:22:52.420the ironies of the attack on you, and I'm going to play what he did, was that my understanding
01:22:55.760is the program at the source of this whole thing is a program to lower costs for people. Do I have
01:23:02.320that top line correct? You have it absolutely right. Okay, so I'm going to play what he had
01:23:09.200to say, and then I'm going to ask you to explain what the program is that was such an obvious,
01:23:15.360ludicrous uh laugh line for uh the republicans there take a listen 1.9 billion dollars to
01:23:23.500recently created decarbonization of holmes committee headed up and we know she's involved
01:23:32.220just at the last moment the money was passed over by a woman named stacy abrams have you ever heard
01:23:39.220Okay, so what is this organization, what is your relationship to it, and what does it do?
01:23:47.680In 2023 and 2024, I led a program called Vitalizing DeSoto.
01:23:53.880We worked in a tiny town in South Georgia to demonstrate that by replacing energy inefficient appliances with efficient appliances, you can lower your costs.
01:24:05.000And in fact, we accomplished that for 75 percent of the community.
01:24:09.740They got appliances that are lowering their bills right now.
01:24:12.940We had one woman who saw her electric bill cut in half from one 80 to 98 dollars.
01:24:18.780That's what we delivered. And based on that program, a coalition of organizations, famous organizations, came together and said to the EPA, if we can do this here, we can do this for millions more Americans.
01:24:34.300let us invest the money of america in lowering the cost for americans and the epa said okay great
01:24:40.860go for it go for it go for it saved 98 on a one woman's electric bill in desoto georgia a small
01:24:53.040town wait wait till you hear some math now i hope i don't lose you this is very simple math
01:25:01.020But you need to hear this because you heard her explanation.
01:25:05.760She was given about $2 billion to decarbonize the appliances.
01:25:14.040It's not as energy efficient as a new one.0.52
01:25:17.020So Stacey Abrams and the EPA that gave her $2 billion are going to get these people new energy efficient, low carbon footprint appliances.0.97
01:31:48.000She gives them to Internet influencers who jump around in front of the White House like they just won the publisher's clearinghouse sweepstake.
01:31:57.100And then they start putting it out to the public and it's nothing.
01:35:01.080But do you think people in that position of power are going to be arrested?
01:35:06.060And not even because they don't want to get them in trouble.
01:35:08.900or because they're powerful, they are so influential
01:35:11.940and have their roots dug in to this country
01:35:16.320and have so much to do with the economy of this country.
01:35:22.440Because really, what's keeping me from believing
01:35:25.820that every single powerful director, producer, and actors in Hollywood
01:35:30.680have something to do with pedophilia and trafficking
01:35:35.180and all the horrors we've heard over the course of the years?
01:35:38.900Imagine Hollywood shutting down because everyone that does anything of note is is arrested.
01:35:48.200It couldn't happen. It's an industry that is so crucial to America.
01:35:55.560It becomes a national security issue. And now when you bring politicians into it, politicians that are still serving, they're still senators.
01:36:06.520their congressmen governors nager whatever at such a a level that it would absolutely gut
01:36:16.940the government that's a national security issue you try explaining what else could possibly
01:36:24.940be a national security issue where they have to redact these papers then it would be such
01:36:31.100an impact on on everything morale never mind just economically morale oh we got nothing
01:36:39.320they were all pieces of garbage uh yeah i think that kind of um you know kind of looks bad and0.86
01:36:50.640kind of screw the country up and that might be why they're they're making it a national security1.00
01:36:55.580issue um but it could that's why it tanked and that's why pam bondi looked bad go for something
01:37:03.580with real substance don't go for this you know uh internet meme viral thing oh look we got uh0.98
01:37:14.760We got some Epstein files that implicate who?