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00:00:59.980 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:01:06.480 And this is the Anthony Cumia Show, but it's Jake Novak filling in for Anthony. I got to give people

00:01:11.180 Easter Sunday off. Come on. And I'm happy to do that. Passover is still going on. But if you know

00:01:16.220 anything about the rules of Passover, we've got two very strict days at the beginning, two very

00:01:21.600 strict days at the end in between you can work you can dance you can play but you still have to

00:01:26.620 eat the cardboard known as matzah that's what goes on i'm jake novak i'm really happy to be

00:01:30.600 filling in for anthony and we're going to talk about a lot of things during these hours we're

00:01:34.680 going to talk about the breaking news this massive news day i know it's a holiday but it hasn't been

00:01:38.900 a holiday for major news in this country and i've been covering it all day by the way been on the

00:01:43.220 air since 5 a.m today and that's cool also i want to hear from you about easter and passover and

00:01:49.880 all of your holiday thoughts, Savannah Guthrie has given us an interesting opening in a message

00:01:55.960 that she has sent regarding her situation on this Easter. She did it on Easter on purpose,

00:02:00.660 and I think that the way some people are reacting to it are telling us our tell. There's people who

00:02:06.980 are angry about what she had to say, and I think they're telling us they're not really religious

00:02:10.200 people or don't understand religion. There's some people who are responding in a different way who

00:02:14.860 are showing that they know a little bit of something about our religious traditions, and

00:02:19.040 And when I say that, I mean Jewish, Christian, and a lot of Muslim traditions, too.

00:02:22.560 There really are a lot of similarities there, too.

00:02:24.640 Let's not forget that.

00:02:25.800 But I'd like to hear about all of that from you.

00:02:28.020 But first, I want to make sure that in case you've been doing Easter stuff all day, which you have the right to do,

00:02:32.620 some of you go to these morning masses for Easter, and then you're with your family and all that kind of stuff,

00:02:38.740 and I really respect that.

00:02:40.880 Maybe you missed the fact that we got him.

00:02:42.500 And we found that second aviator who had been on the run trying to save his own life since his F-15 was shot down on Thursday over Iran.

00:02:52.520 He was hiding out.

00:02:54.360 He probably had to use some of his weapons as well to stay alive.

00:02:58.400 Was able to get a message to American rescuers.

00:03:00.840 A massive effort by Delta forces, both in the air and on the ground.

00:03:06.320 A little bit of help from Israel as well.

00:03:08.640 And he was rescued.

00:03:09.900 He's safe out of the country.

00:03:10.840 And all those ground forces who did engage in some firefights with the IRGC and besieged police forces, they're all out safely.

00:03:19.260 We haven't heard about any other serious casualties from this.

00:03:22.260 This is a major, major, probably one of the most difficult extractions and rescue missions in the history of the world.

00:03:30.080 This reminds me of the Entebbe raid that the Israelis carried out in 1976 on July 4th weekend, no less.

00:03:36.520 uh but this to me was also a major herculean effort by the united states an amazing effort

00:03:42.940 and don't forget the the co-pilot himself or this guy in particular was a weapons officer

00:03:48.640 uh his efforts to stay alive he also saved his own life in many heroic ways we're going to find

00:03:54.880 out more about it and if you're a hollywood screenwriter or a wannabe screenwriter let me

00:03:59.820 give you two pieces of advice first of all spend the next couple of days hoovering up every bit

00:04:04.620 of information about this rescue that you can get so that you can write a good screenplay

00:04:07.840 and my second bit of advice is please don't worry about the ethnicities of anybody involved please

00:04:13.920 don't make this into a room rainbow coalition nonsense just tell us the story the story tells

00:04:19.040 itself it's fantastic if you want to use some artistic license don't make it political license

00:04:24.660 do something like they did in the movie oppenheimer where they had some imaginary things going on in

00:04:30.120 the minds of the people speaking it wasn't a political message it was an artistic message

00:04:34.220 That you can do. Go for it. But please don't make this into a political harangue. Just make this into an exciting story. So those are my two pieces of advice. That is still the biggest news of the day. But we have a number two contender in just the last few hours. Number two with the bullet is President Trump's post. He actually posted this, folks. He posted on his true social page a obscenity laced threat to Iran. The man is getting frustrated.

00:04:59.160 I've been frustrated with Iran for a long time, so if you're looking for me to clutch my pearls over what President Trump had to say to Iran, you've got the wrong guy.

00:05:09.580 I'm going to give you a paraphrase of what he said, because I want to keep my FCC and this station's FCC license.

00:05:15.500 But basically what he said is, quote, Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped into one in Iran. 0.89

00:05:21.740 There will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. 1.00

00:05:27.340 Just watch. 1.00

00:05:28.560 Praise be to Allah.

00:05:30.160 Just watch.

00:05:30.720 So there you go.

00:05:32.000 That's President Trump's message to the Iranians.

00:05:35.100 He's given them another 24 hours. 0.96

00:05:36.740 We were looking at a Monday deadline for them to open up the Straits of Hormuz from President Trump, or they would get holy hell.

00:05:43.480 He's given them another day now.

00:05:44.540 So now it's Tuesday.

00:05:46.000 He really wants these people to do this peacefully.

00:05:48.120 I don't know if he's going to get that from them, honestly.

00:05:51.120 These are religious fanatics.

00:05:52.420 uh and they are also and you got to stay with me here folks because i know a lot of you don't 0.85

00:05:58.200 know your history as well as you should have and that's okay but radical islamism is absolutely

00:06:04.920 an offshoot of nazism and i'm not saying that just because they have similar enemies

00:06:08.880 no you have to understand read your history the nazis made a significant investment in radical

00:06:15.680 islam they made a significant investment in the muslim brotherhood starting in the late 1920s early

00:06:21.380 1930s. This is all 0.53

00:06:23.420 documented. The Islamist leader

00:06:25.600 of what was then

00:06:26.500 Palestine, the Palestinian

00:06:28.660 British mandate,

00:06:31.840 al-Husseini, was also known as the

00:06:33.420 Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, spent the entire 0.64

00:06:35.560 war as Hitler's guest

00:06:37.300 in Berlin. And he did a daily 0.93

00:06:39.520 radio broadcast. I'm ashamed to say

00:06:41.400 I'm also a radio broadcaster.

00:06:43.560 That was broadcast all over the

00:06:45.440 Arab world, also heard in Iran,

00:06:47.700 which is not an Arab country, by the way. It's a Muslim

00:06:49.520 country, but not an Arab country. 0.99

00:06:51.380 these people were absolutely trained by adolf hitler joseph mengele the whole rotten crew 0.83

00:06:59.520 and that whole rotten crew chose suicide instead of surrender chose radicalism instead of sanity

00:07:07.100 every single time and the last thing that hitler did his last order as the leader of germany was

00:07:12.540 to flood the subway tunnels of germany because he knew that the german people were hiding out

00:07:18.200 in those tunnels so they could survive allied bombing and Russian bombing attacks. If he was

00:07:23.660 going to commit suicide, he wanted them all to commit suicide. And that is something that we

00:07:26.940 need to expect from these disciples of the Nazis, the Islamist Iranian leaders. If you don't expect 1.00

00:07:33.380 that, you don't know your history. Now, President Trump is doing the right thing morally by demanding

00:07:38.040 their surrender, but I hope he knows there's a thin chance they will. Their response so far

00:07:43.340 has been incredibly defiant despite their weakness they have an official response the IRGC has

00:07:49.580 responded to Trump's latest ultimatum by saying that the Strait of Hormuz will never reopen

00:07:54.680 there's going to be a new world order in the Strait of Hormuz I mean just all the fiery rhetoric they

00:07:59.280 could pull out of their turbans that's what they've decided to answer President Trump with 0.64

00:08:05.060 which is really a disgrace because there are 90 million people in Iran most of whom don't want

00:08:10.620 any war anymore and they're going to put these people in harm's way i i talked with fernando

00:08:15.320 mateo on many of these stations you heard him with me uh not all of you but you some of you

00:08:20.080 heard him and we were talking about how the people of iran the civilian death toll from this war in

00:08:25.260 its sixth week is really low considering how many bombs have been dropped on this country

00:08:30.720 the precision the morality the technology all that adding to a tremendous aura and feeling of

00:08:38.620 confidence among the iranian people the civilians know that they're safe when the bombs start

00:08:43.940 dropping and they know they're safe from the iranian police for a few minutes they come out

00:08:48.100 and cheer it because they know the americans and the israelis aren't targeting them this isn't an

00:08:53.980 immoral war where a bunch of civilians are dying it's it's it's a very precise war and it's going

00:08:59.660 to take some time but it's it's going extremely well i feel sorry for the people who think that

00:09:05.620 we're losing this war in Iran. You were living in a delusional world, and you should have your car 0.64

00:09:09.500 keys and sharp objects taken away from you if you believe we're losing this war. To have the number

00:09:15.000 of casualties that we've suffered, which is incredibly low, every one is too much, don't

00:09:19.500 get me wrong as far as the human aspect of it, but from a strategic standpoint, we are not paying

00:09:25.600 the kinds of prices that people were predicting we would have to pay, and there has been a

00:09:30.500 tremendous amount of success. But these people who lead Iran are radical maniacs, and they can't be 0.82

00:09:38.340 fixed. Hitler wasn't someone who we could fix by sending him to a sensitivity training program. 0.91

00:09:44.940 The mullahs aren't people we can fix by teaching them what the pride flag means. 0.98

00:09:49.660 That's not going to happen. These people are intent on not only our death, but the death of 1.00

00:09:54.480 other people, their own people, their Muslim neighbors, and on and on down the line. 0.99

00:09:59.180 And I'm sorry if you're listening and you don't realize that.

00:10:01.640 I really am.

00:10:03.760 We're going to be taking a lot of calls throughout this program

00:10:06.120 throughout the next three hours.

00:10:07.740 The number is 800-848-9222.

00:10:11.440 Really going to make a priority of those of you who want to talk about this war,

00:10:14.940 want to talk about this Easter situation, what Easter means to you,

00:10:18.780 what Passover means to you, how you've been celebrating it.

00:10:22.120 Look it up if you haven't heard.

00:10:23.360 I'll give you some more details on it myself.

00:10:24.920 You won't have to look it up if you don't want to.

00:10:26.420 the Savannah Guthrie message that she gave, specifically on Easter, about her family

00:10:31.080 situation, because I think it opens up the door for a serious, mature discussion about

00:10:37.460 relationships with God, about religion in America. If there is a day for that, it would

00:10:41.620 be now with the confluence of Easter and Passover right now. Most Americans are having some

00:10:46.700 kind of religious holiday right now. And of course, our Muslim friends have just gotten

00:10:51.360 out of Ramadan and Eid, so they're not exactly too far removed from their most important

00:10:56.320 holidays either. So I want to make sure we get to all of that as much as we can. Again, the number

00:11:01.300 is 800-848-9222. Love to hear what you have to say about all this kind of stuff. I'm going to do

00:11:08.460 one call before we go to break, if we can. Matt in the Bronx wants to talk about the Iran war.

00:11:13.280 Go for it, Matt. Yes, good afternoon, or good evening, rather. With regard to the Iran war,

00:11:21.060 I want to just remind the audience, well, first, before I get to my comment, you know, there's a deluge of misinformation online.

00:11:29.320 There's a deluge of misinformation in the mainstream media.

00:11:33.120 If you want a source for objective information on Middle East policy and a foreign policy in that part of the world, there's one source that I recommend.

00:11:42.020 It's called the Council for the National Interest, cnionline.org.

00:11:48.500 It was founded by two Republican congressmen, Paul Finley and Pete McCluskey, to advocate for a fully neutral foreign policy in the Middle East that prevents the United States from being entangled in forever wars, like the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the war against Syria, Libya, Yemen, one after the next.

00:12:12.100 because these wars did not serve the American interest and instead they were formulated by

00:12:19.360 New York conservatives working in the United States media and the government to advocate for

00:12:24.980 aggressive Zionist foreign policy on behalf of the state of Israel. Okay Matt I'm gonna I'm gonna

00:12:30.760 cut you off there because first of all for even before it's not because of the Zionist thing

00:12:34.880 it's because of the incredible naivete of the first part of what you had to say which

00:12:42.040 was we don't want we should be completely neutral and we shouldn't get into wars well tell that to

00:12:47.620 the people who are killing us uh folks first of all let's talk about misinformation the thing

00:12:54.480 that i've heard the most since this iran war started is one of my favorite one of my pet

00:12:58.960 peas but it's also one of my favorite misinformation pieces of data about iran and the current regime

00:13:04.660 uh and i blame the first five seconds of the very otherwise very good movie argo for this

00:13:10.980 You know, there are millions of Americans who believe that the United States CIA illegally deposed a rightfully democratically elected prime minister of Iran, and they did it for oil.

00:13:25.040 Well, there was no rightfully democratically elected prime minister of Iran.

00:13:29.620 He was appointed by the parliament.

00:13:30.960 There was no election.

00:13:32.660 He was also a communist.

00:13:34.360 And we were fighting a cold war against the Soviets.

00:13:36.840 And the Shah of Iran, who actually signed off on that deposing of the prime minister, had it in his right as a constitutional in his constitutional rights to depose that leader.

00:13:47.880 So that's the first thing. These wars in the Middle East, the Iraq war especially, have caused and every Zionist knows this, every Israeli knows this, have caused more problems for Israel in the immediate and the long term than anything else.

00:14:06.840 One of the best periods in Israeli history was when Iran and Iraq were at war with each other, full-blown war, not when the U.S. was involved with Iraq.

00:14:16.420 So in a way, I'm glad that he called because he was able to – he parroted this misinformation.

00:14:21.820 Again, there's nothing wrong with not being informed.

00:14:24.360 The worst is when someone thinks they're really informed and they're just as ill-informed as everyone else, just to another extreme.

00:14:31.020 Iran, listen, you can say, here's the argument I'm willing to entertain as a fair-minded person, as someone who's very educated, but also a fair-minded person.

00:14:42.520 If you want to say the United States shouldn't get into wars with everyone who messes with us because if we did that, we'd be busy all the time, that's worth a discussion.

00:14:51.120 I will flesh out that discussion and ask, well, how much messing with us is too much?

00:14:55.840 And that's fine. But if you're going to say that these countries haven't been messing with us, that Iran hasn't been at war, killing our people, making our lives more expensive for 47 years, and I have some eye-popping numbers for you on that when we come back from a break, then you're dealing with the world of fantasy, non-reality.

00:15:15.760 this country has been at war with us and many countries have been at war with us

00:15:19.880 actively murderously for more than four decades your only cogent argument you can make is you

00:15:27.020 could say it's still not enough for us to get it go to war with them but to say that they aren't

00:15:30.840 trying to provoke us into war that they're not at war with us you can talk neutrality all you want 0.98

00:15:35.420 but if the other side doesn't want to be neutral you're a schmuck all right we'll be right back 0.97

00:15:41.000 With the Anthony Cumia Show, I'm Jake Novak filling in for him on many of the networks and channels that you listen to across the country. 0.96

00:15:47.460 I'm going to give you some eye-popping numbers about what the war in Iran has cost us, and I mean money, in just a moment.

00:15:53.700 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:15:59.960 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:16:06.100 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia on this Easter Sunday night.

00:16:11.000 I am willing to take any caller, any debate you want to have, but I really need to give you fair warning.

00:16:19.440 And I'm not trying to sound arrogant here.

00:16:21.580 I am not a genius.

00:16:23.080 I am not a professor.

00:16:25.340 I am not a former military expert in any of those things like that.

00:16:28.640 But I am very, very well studied in many, many topics, politics, economics, especially the Middle East.

00:16:36.540 So if you want to come at me with stuff that proves that you're not as well-informed, don't.

00:16:44.740 Let me just save you the time.

00:16:46.800 Let me just save you the time.

00:16:48.600 Okay?

00:16:49.320 It's okay.

00:16:50.740 There's nothing wrong.

00:16:51.620 You might be a better person than I on many other factors.

00:16:56.480 But if you're going to come at me with the, well, America should be neutral and, you know, we should not get it. 0.54

00:17:01.860 Look, I'm with you on the Iraq War.

00:17:04.360 I have a whole alternative history to how we should have responded to 9-11, and things would have turned out better, and it doesn't include a full-scale invasion of Iraq. 0.81

00:17:14.180 So I'm with you there.

00:17:16.080 I'm with you on some of the other wars we fought, or at least the way we fought them. 0.70

00:17:19.380 Vietnam War, I mean, what a messed-up situation that was. 0.96

00:17:23.820 Korean War, a little better. 0.90

00:17:27.120 But you're going to come at me with we shouldn't have gotten involved in World War II. 0.95

00:17:30.180 You're going to come at me with we shouldn't be doing what we're doing in Iran now.

00:17:33.060 if you don't if you aren't a real expert you don't want to call me you don't want to call me

00:17:39.640 here's someone who is a real expert though someone who really knows about the military

00:17:42.960 aspect of this and i can't wait to talk to her about what the average uh joes and james are

00:17:47.680 feeling right now it's veronica from florida veronica happy easter first i know that you

00:17:53.300 are celebrating with some prime rib by the way so thanks a lot for that it was amazing

00:17:57.380 Jake, it was amazing. But what a miracle. I've just been, tears in my eyes, Easter miracle

00:18:04.320 today. I was praying so hard that we were going to find this wizow. And guess what? 0.76

00:18:09.080 When Trump's in the White House, he has your back. So I'm just, I'm exuding, you know,

00:18:15.680 just happiness. It's just wonderful today. And as a military retiree, I'm so proud of

00:18:22.900 all of the military the air force the navy seals you know the green berets that went in there this

00:18:28.300 was kick ass get it done and and we've got our guy back i cannot wait for the press conference

00:18:33.140 tomorrow jake and isn't it interesting veronica and again here we go here we go folks with those

00:18:38.560 of you who just heard what veronica said it's like oh it's just another flag waving no we're

00:18:42.100 going to get deeper into this isn't it interesting that this whole rescue operation happened in iran

00:18:48.200 the very same country that when they took our hostages in 1979 and held them for 444 days

00:18:55.240 and never really paid the price for it never they never paid the price for it it was iran that

00:19:01.440 changed the equation in the world because before that hostage crisis of 79 until january of 81

00:19:07.600 it was well known no matter how bad a country you were anywhere you messed with americans either

00:19:13.100 american troops or american citizens you were dead meat it was understood you don't mess with us

00:19:20.640 iran did and until now they've never paid the price so to me veronica it's very fitting and

00:19:28.000 wonderful that this massive effort to get this guy out safely happened in iran well we've got a

00:19:35.960 leader in the white house and here's what we don't have nato does not have our back and it's time to

00:19:41.980 say goodbye. You know, I've always said we need to have bases. I was stationed in Germany for four

00:19:47.740 years at two bases. I love having, and I've lived in Japan, was stationed over there two times.

00:19:54.380 We've got to have, you know, be tip of the spear and be out there as a deterrent. But Europe has

00:20:00.960 not had our back. So I don't know if we need to be there anymore, Jake. You know, I'm kind of done

00:20:05.540 with them all, especially Spain. You know, my dad was the defense out of Chez Madrid during Desert 0.63

00:20:10.760 storm. And Spain is where we flew B-52s. We, you know, always had assets fly through

00:20:18.080 Rhoda and Marone. And to not be able to do that this time, I'm just, I'm mortified. NATO means

00:20:24.980 nothing to me now. I'm so frustrated. Yeah. And they have not stepped up in the way that they

00:20:30.460 should have. And for those of you who think this has forever been the case, that they've always

00:20:34.260 been useless, it's not true. Take a look at how NATO responded after 9-11. European countries

00:20:39.320 responded, I think, really well after 9-11 in many ways, and they participated in the

00:20:45.880 interactions in Afghanistan. So, you know, this has been a recent rot in Europe that is absolutely

00:20:54.340 traceable to their migrant situation. They brought in people who hate America, people who hate 1.00

00:21:00.580 Western civilization, and now they're deathly afraid of these people. By the way, they're also

00:21:05.380 stupid. These political leaders don't understand that the main event in the Muslim world for 1.00

00:21:10.660 1400 years, that long enough for you to figure this out, has been Sunni versus Shia. If I were

00:21:16.700 Keir Starmer or the prime minister of Spain or Emmanuel Macron in France, I would be standing

00:21:22.140 in front of my people and saying, there are most of our people in this country who are Muslim

00:21:27.460 migrants and immigrants are Sunni Muslims. And most of what Iran has done since this war has

00:21:32.440 begun is to attack sunni muslim countries this is an offense to most of the islamic world and now

00:21:39.580 we will stand with the united states trying to defend and protect countries like the uae 0.82

00:21:45.800 countries like bahrain all those countries sunni muslim countries but you know what here you know

00:21:51.240 what veronica kira starmer and emmanuel macron aren't smart enough to say what i just said are

00:21:56.260 they? Well, I call him President Macaroon. So, you know, he's trying to step in it and

00:22:04.020 he doesn't provide any relevance to anything. But what I'm worried about, Jake, is the 93 million

00:22:11.780 Iranians that want freedom. And, you know, on X today, I've seen some things saying that

00:22:18.120 potentially the CIA is passing out weapons. I hope it's true because I want them to step up

00:22:23.960 and take their country back.

00:22:25.480 Me too.

00:22:25.960 Veronica, thank you so much for joining us.

00:22:28.340 We got another two and a half hours to go, my friends.

00:22:30.660 And next we're going to talk about Easter and Savannah Gupta.

00:22:38.280 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:22:44.580 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:22:49.620 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia on this Easter Sunday night.

00:22:56.340 And let's talk about Easter for a second.

00:22:58.220 Let's talk it because this is this is just about the holiest time of the year.

00:23:01.240 I know that we have usually sometimes we have a confluence between Christmas and Hanukkah.

00:23:05.900 And so that bonds a lot of Jews and Christians together.

00:23:08.600 But the thing is, let me give you some inside dope if you haven't heard it.

00:23:11.580 Hanukkah is not really that much of an important Jewish holiday.

00:23:15.040 It isn't.

00:23:15.800 Now, a lot of Jews have decided to make it a big, important holiday because it's near Christmastime and they make it into like a Jewish Christmas. 0.95

00:23:23.160 That's not what it's about. In fact, Hanukkah is about the opposite. 0.88

00:23:25.280 It's about not accepting and doing cultural appropriation and taking other people's customs.

00:23:31.900 I don't want to go too much into that. Just take my word for it.

00:23:34.020 It's not a major Jewish holiday, major, major.

00:23:37.040 Passover is a major, major Jewish holiday.

00:23:39.700 Easter is a major, major Christian holiday, and they come about the same time every year.

00:23:44.520 And that's where we are right now. And I want to talk about something that Savannah Guthrie did today, because I think it's an important opening for a discussion about religion and where we stand as humans in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

00:23:58.100 And when I say that, I mean the tradition, the Jewish legal tradition, the Christian ethical tradition.

00:24:05.860 I'm not talking about newfangled politics. I'm talking about the sources are tradition, emphasis on tradition.

00:24:12.640 So Savannah Guthrie put out a statement talking about how, of course, she's still beside herself and her family is still wrapped with sorrow over the fact that her mother is still missing and, of course, her chances of survival diminishing every day.

00:24:25.680 It is a terrible story, whether you like Savannah Guthrie or not.

00:24:29.460 I mean, none of that matters.

00:24:30.840 It's a really horrible thing to an attack, to attack and kidnap or whatever they did to this elderly person is unconscionable.

00:24:37.540 And, you know, by the way, speaking of religious tradition, in a lot of religious traditions, kidnapping is a capital offense.

00:24:43.080 It used to be a capital offense in this country, by the way.

00:24:46.620 But there was an interesting part of her statement that I just find fascinating, and I'm glad she said it because it was honest.

00:24:53.520 She talked about how, especially during this holiday season, she's felt some anger at God for this happening to her.

00:25:01.800 And I know there's probably some people who think they're religious, who think they're pro-religion, who see that and they're going to bash Savannah Guthrie for being anti-religion or something like that.

00:25:12.640 No, this is the essence of our religious rights as people in the Jewish and Christian tradition.

00:25:18.360 We are allowed to be angry at God.

00:25:20.480 And why are we allowed to be angry at God?

00:25:22.520 How do we boil that down?

00:25:23.980 Aren't we supposed to be thankful for everything?

00:25:25.660 Well, the answer is none of us asked to be born.

00:25:29.760 should we be thankful for god that we were born yes should we thank our parents for raising us

00:25:35.500 if we're lucky enough to have two parents or one parent who did that yes of course thankfulness

00:25:40.180 and gratitude is the key to happiness and is a very very big requirement of jewish and christian

00:25:45.640 life but at the end of the day we didn't ask to be born we didn't ask for the roll the dice life

00:25:54.400 that some of us have to live for good and bad.

00:25:57.400 We have a right to be angry at God.

00:25:59.160 We have a right to say,

00:26:00.300 God, I don't understand why you've done this to me,

00:26:02.780 why you did this, if you're Savannah Guthrie,

00:26:04.480 why you did this to my elderly mother.

00:26:07.180 We understand that that's allowed.

00:26:11.280 It's allowed because we are human.

00:26:15.880 And what differentiates us

00:26:17.460 in both the Christian and Jewish tradition

00:26:18.960 between angels and us

00:26:20.140 is that we have the right to complain.

00:26:22.380 The angels don't.

00:26:24.400 we can complain. We shouldn't make it the crux of our lives, and I don't get the impression

00:26:29.380 that Savannah Guthrie is doing that. But I'm glad that she showed the human emotion. I'm glad that

00:26:34.900 she showed that, because to me, it's really, really very important. If you're angry at God

00:26:40.300 for something that has happened to you, it could be the beginning of you understanding how maybe

00:26:43.980 you have a responsibility there. I don't think Savannah Guthrie is responsible for this.

00:26:48.140 But sometimes some of the things that really make us angry at God are really

00:26:51.140 mostly our fault, and maybe you can start the conversation and start the realizations by

00:26:55.640 simply saying that, expressing that emotion. And it's also a great way to understand that

00:27:01.300 in the Jewish and Christian tradition, we believe that there's another life. We believe

00:27:05.620 that there's an afterlife, which will be wholly just. Here on earth, things aren't always going

00:27:09.680 to be square. Bad things are going to happen to good people. Good things are going to happen to

00:27:14.960 bad people. And if you don't understand that, you haven't really signed on for a religious life in

00:27:21.680 the Jewish and Christian tradition. That's the way it works. You have to have that humility,

00:27:28.020 gratitude, humility, and the understanding that you are allowed to express emotions,

00:27:32.740 but come correct. I mean, don't say you're angry at God because the Mets lost,

00:27:36.740 and I don't know if they lost tonight or not. I'll check in a second. But, you know,

00:27:39.860 Be serious about that.

00:27:41.720 This woman who's dealing with the loss of her mother, most likely her death, certainly a terrible crime committed, that's a reason to be angry at God, if you don't understand why, if you had no responsibility for it.

00:27:55.060 Let's keep the discussion a little bit on religion.

00:27:58.620 I want to talk to Cliff in York, Pennsylvania, because he overheard what I had to say about the radical Islamist connection with Nazism.

00:28:05.420 I think he's going to agree with me about that, but maybe he can expand on it a little bit, Cliff.

00:28:09.860 I'm not quite sure if I will.

00:28:11.880 Your good name is your Anthony Comey show, right?

00:28:15.180 Who are you again, please?

00:28:16.300 I'm Jake Novak.

00:28:17.320 Thanks for reminding me to plug myself.

00:28:19.620 If I'm not for myself, who will be for me, as the first Rabbi Hillel said.

00:28:23.920 You're very modest and everything. 0.99

00:28:25.480 I just really want to get into this religious thing about this Islamic is really dictatorship or Nazism. 0.99

00:28:37.180 But the eternal intelligence, I always think of spirituality as eternal intelligence, not, of course, the artificial intelligence. 1.00

00:28:51.400 But anyway, yes, I'm a documentary artist, and I did the bicentennial drawings of when it was called the first capital in the United States.

00:29:01.300 Philadelphia, the British went out of Philadelphia, the congresspeople and everything.

00:29:07.180 And then, of course, it started, then the Articles of Confederation were adopted then in York.

00:29:13.040 Excuse me for a documentary talking about York, the proselytizing York.

00:29:18.300 Yeah, no, I understand.

00:29:19.940 But, you know, listen, I want to make one distinction, though.

00:29:22.620 This is really important to me. 0.53

00:29:24.260 Because, again, of my historic background, I believe that Islamist, Muslim Brotherhood, terrorist stuff is connected to Nazism. 0.91

00:29:33.760 Islam, which definitely is not as pluralist as I believe it should be and is not as adaptable to Western society as it should be, I'm not giving them a full pass here.

00:29:42.000 But one must understand that for hundreds of years in the Middle East, Islam was not the way it is now, was not a genocidal ideology.

00:29:56.660 Too much of it has become that way since a small group called the Muslim Brotherhood at the end of the 19th century started. 0.57

00:30:03.640 It was a very small group, but they got Nazi funding, literally money, money and encouragement from the literal Nazis. 0.74

00:30:09.060 I'm not talking about skinheads in Alabama.

00:30:10.680 I'm talking about the Nazis in Berlin. 0.68

00:30:12.840 Gave them money, gave them encouragement, and unfortunately, they followed in their footsteps. 0.69

00:30:17.820 And if you're a Harry Potter fan, I know that we're rebooting Harry Potter on HBO soon. 0.87

00:30:21.980 And Hamas, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, they are Hitler's last horcrux, that last part of his soul, still living in the world, spreading evil. 0.81

00:30:32.740 I don't believe that mainstream Islam, whatever it is, because it is still challenged in so many parts of the world, 0.99

00:30:38.060 although not in places like Indonesia and places further away from the Middle East, it's a lot better. 0.99

00:30:43.280 But you get my point. I'm trying to make the distinction. I'm talking about Islamism and not Islam. 0.56

00:30:47.480 Yeah, I think intuition. Why didn't they have like intuition, like relaxation, and really realizing that mental aptitude is from not thinking by the spiritual context of realization that we live under the quietness and what the monks had in the 14th century, if you know what I'm trying to say.

00:31:10.900 Yeah, I mean, introspection, quiet, an aesthetic life, all the AES, that's really important, and I appreciate your call, Cliff.

00:31:23.000 You know, this is an important thing to understand.

00:31:26.500 Humility is huge in all three of our major religions in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

00:31:33.940 Humility is huge. Gratitude is huge.

00:31:36.080 But that doesn't mean you don't have the right to be angry at God.

00:31:40.540 This is something that people need to understand.

00:31:42.840 We didn't ask to be born.

00:31:44.380 We didn't exist.

00:31:45.540 So we didn't ask to be born, and because of that, we have a right to say, to ask questions.

00:31:51.360 I think the questioning right is even more powerful than our right to be angry, but we have the right to be both, again, as long as we've got the chops to stand up on it.

00:31:59.840 I mean, if you're upset that you didn't get the right color Porsche that you ordered in Alabama, and an Alabama jury will give you $60 million if you got the wrong color Porsche, but don't come to God with that complaint.

00:32:09.400 I'm not kidding. There was actually a jury. It wasn't 60 million dollars, but it was many millions of dollars. Some guy in Alabama 30 years ago didn't get the Porsche that he ordered, the wrong color, and he won a huge jury decision. Make sure you get all of your torts cases tried by an Alabama jury, by the way. But all kidding aside, we have the right to be a question about that. Silas in Staten Island, New York, has been waiting for a long time. He's got a story of success and then failure. I hope that you're on the upside again, though, Silas.

00:32:39.400 Not yet. Not on the episode yet, but I'm not giving up. And what you said about with God, I don't blame God for my bad. I blame human beings who connived through the courts and got my property. That had nothing to do with God.

00:32:57.980 In fact, God gave me the brains to build a business. 0.98

00:33:04.680 And when I kind of, you know, I hire young black guys

00:33:09.860 and kids who have been working with me for, you know, now they're grown men.

00:33:15.980 And they tell me about, you know, what their beliefs are.

00:33:21.100 They say, well, you know, America's racist.

00:33:23.520 I said, no, America, I'm an Indian.

00:33:28.740 My mother was Indian.

00:33:30.020 My father was African.

00:33:31.820 So we were here before all the rest of you got here.

00:33:36.980 I don't hate America for the bad things that they've done to Indians 0.51

00:33:40.500 or the bad things they've done to blacks.

00:33:43.140 And as far as I'm concerned, God has blessed America,

00:33:47.140 so we better not screw it up now.

00:33:49.140 I got a great line from Star Wars when people talked to me about religion.

00:33:56.300 I say what Darth Vader said.

00:33:58.520 I said, I find your lack of faith disturbing.

00:34:03.340 Yeah, thank you, Silas.

00:34:04.400 And I give it a laugh about it, and then I say, yeah, think about that.

00:34:08.200 Yeah, your faith is uplifting.

00:34:10.160 I got to tell you something, Silas, though, and thanks for the call.

00:34:13.500 You know, I have to tell you, this is something that I've written about quite a bit,

00:34:17.600 and I talk about in public quite a bit.

00:34:20.140 There's no such thing as a non-religious person.

00:34:23.580 Everyone has some kind of faith in something

00:34:25.980 or devotion to something

00:34:27.220 that can't be backed up by scientific fact.

00:34:30.480 If we could scientifically back up the fact

00:34:32.420 that there was a God and these things have happened,

00:34:34.840 then it wouldn't be religion

00:34:36.000 because religion implies faith.

00:34:37.600 You can't have faith in something,

00:34:39.360 you can't be showing faith in something

00:34:40.580 if it's factually provable.

00:34:42.240 Then you're just basically acknowledging a fact.

00:34:44.240 That's not faith.

00:34:44.880 and i have found that people who stray from the traditional religions get religion in another way

00:34:51.700 for many people i think the number one religion for people who have either given up judaism or

00:34:56.480 christianity or islam or whatever or hinduism the number one religion for people in the world

00:35:00.660 replacement religion is narcissism they they worship themselves they they they basically

00:35:05.320 decide that i'm going to worship me even though i there's nothing to back up the fact that you're

00:35:09.060 god but you worship yourself but another one that we've seen growing in years here many many

00:35:14.420 years now in the United States is

00:35:16.280 politics is replacing religion for

00:35:18.500 a lot of people. And first of all, how pathetic 1.00

00:35:20.480 is that? 0.99

00:35:22.360 Politics, as your religion,

00:35:24.480 I mean, you don't even get the good food or the music.

00:35:27.340 I mean, at least every religion I

00:35:28.520 know has some good food and some good music,

00:35:30.560 if not a lot. Politics doesn't

00:35:32.500 even have any of the fun, but okay, we'll

00:35:34.460 step aside on that one. But

00:35:36.440 you can see people, especially on the left,

00:35:39.280 who have replaced their

00:35:40.500 religion, whatever it was, or their parents'

00:35:42.460 religion, or maybe they never had it,

00:35:44.420 But they treat their politics like a religion, which is why when they lose an election, it's not something they can just shrug off and say, we'll get him next time.

00:35:52.260 It's like someone is coming into their temple and desecrated it.

00:35:55.460 Hillary Clinton didn't win.

00:35:58.360 Kamala Harris didn't win.

00:35:59.640 And to them, it's like someone came into their temple and defiled it.

00:36:03.180 Not just, oh, a political loss.

00:36:04.720 Let's learn from this mistake. 0.98

00:36:06.400 No, it's you people are evil.

00:36:09.320 To them, it is a religious law.

00:36:10.940 So the ancient wars in what is now known as a Fertile Crescent, what was then known as a Fertile Crescent, the city-states, when they fought wars against each other, it was considered to be proxy wars for their many gods.

00:36:21.880 So if you lost a war, your god lost too.

00:36:25.560 It's funny that the left is known as the progressives in America.

00:36:29.980 That's the worst name for them.

00:36:31.240 They are actually regressive.

00:36:32.540 They're bringing us back to these failed ideologies.

00:36:35.040 They're bringing us back to communism.

00:36:36.580 That's regressive.

00:36:37.320 They're bringing us back to city-state era-type ancient world where politics and religion were the same thing.

00:36:44.680 They're regressive, not progressive.

00:36:49.020 And to me, that's really, really, really frustrating.

00:36:52.140 I have to say, it's frustrating.

00:36:54.420 All right, we're going to take a break now.

00:36:56.040 This is Jake Novak sitting in for Anthony Acumia on so many channels across the country on this Easter Sunday night.

00:37:01.760 We're going to get to more of your calls when we come back, and I'm going to talk about something else. 0.93

00:37:04.760 I promised you eye-popping numbers on the war in Iran and what Iran's existence, its mere existence, has cost us in America for the last 47 years. 0.98

00:37:13.480 Stay with us here. 1.00

00:37:14.820 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:37:21.100 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:37:27.320 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia.

00:37:29.820 I want to give you some of these eye-popping numbers on Iran.

00:37:33.580 And I'm going to have more about this in something that I do for the local anchor here for this program, WABC.

00:37:40.340 I do a little column in our newsletter that comes out on Monday morning.

00:37:44.700 But I want to crunch some numbers for you because, look, you have every right to be upset about the now more than a dollar a gallon.

00:37:51.120 We're now at $4.11.

00:37:53.600 That's the average price of a regular gallon of gas.

00:37:56.780 We were at $2.98 on that number the day before the war started in Iran.

00:38:00.740 So I understand the frustration. You're paying $1.13 more per gallon. For those of you who have big tanks, 20 gallons or more, that's a hit, and I get it, and you have every right to be upset about that. But I want to put things in context. Because if your argument is, oh, we're paying too much for this war right now, well, let's talk the numbers.

00:38:18.640 Again, I meant what I said with my disclaimer a few minutes ago when I said, if you're going to argue with me about something, please have your facts together.

00:38:25.800 It's not going to go well for you if you don't, okay?

00:38:28.000 It doesn't mean I'm a genius.

00:38:29.120 I'm not.

00:38:29.760 I just – I have all the – I like keeping facts in front of me.

00:38:32.320 That's all it means, okay?

00:38:33.360 That's all it means. 0.53

00:38:34.820 Now, the Iranian Islamist regime, this radical terrorist regime, has been in power since 1979.

00:38:41.900 That's 47 years. 0.80

00:38:43.540 Follow me on the numbers here.

00:38:45.480 That's about 17,000 days, give or take.

00:38:48.640 But the existence of Iran and its threat to shipping, even before now, you think this is just the beginning of when Iran has been threatening shipping through the Strait of Hormuz? 0.74

00:38:58.560 They've been making it more difficult to be in the oil business globally since that regime began. 0.51

00:39:04.720 There's been sanctions, there's been threats, there's been all kinds of stuff like that.

00:39:08.180 Now, I'm going to be really fair with this mathematical problem here, so don't say I'm being hyperbolic with my numbers.

00:39:14.580 I'm going to be really fair right now. 0.81

00:39:16.120 Let's just for the sake of argument say that the premium that the existence of this terrorist state in Iran has added to the price of every barrel of oil sold since 1979 is just $1 a barrel. 0.84

00:39:28.100 I think it's more like $4 or $5, but let's say it's just $1 a barrel. 0.51

00:39:33.400 The United States, on average, has been buying and consuming 80 million barrels of oil every day since 1979.

00:39:44.020 And actually, that's an average number.

00:39:45.700 It's 100 million barrels now, but there were times when, in 1979, it was like 60.

00:39:50.640 So our average number between 60 and 100 is 80 million. 0.79

00:39:54.200 So that's $80 million a day our economy, you and I have had to pay, for Iran's existence times around 17,000 days. 0.72

00:40:08.620 You know how much money that is? 0.85

00:40:10.440 That's $1.4 trillion just for the price of oil. 0.88

00:40:15.700 Now, let's talk about the price of our airline tickets and the extra money we have to pay because of extra security, because Iran is the number one sponsor of terrorism in the world, and they've made it more expensive for us to fly, and we need to pay more in security. 0.87

00:40:27.320 And I'm not even getting into our defense budget that has had to focus on Iran for so many years and how much money that's taken out of our taxes. 0.88

00:40:36.500 We're talking, again, without hyperbole, folks, we're talking probably somewhere around a quadrillion dollars, okay? 0.79

00:40:45.700 A massive, massive, massive amount of money that you and I have already paid because of this terrorist regime and what it does to oil prices, what it does to our airline ticket prices, what it does to our defense budget, and on and on and on down the line.

00:41:01.180 so the cost that we've been having to pay extra for the last six weeks while i am not happy about

00:41:07.840 it and you have a right to be not happy about it is not even coming into anywhere near the ballpark

00:41:14.060 of what we've already been paying for 47 years and if we can eliminate this terrorist regime

00:41:18.700 once and for all we will feel the savings in a much bigger way than what we're doing right now

00:41:24.980 with having to pay for more gas.

00:41:26.240 That's just a simple fact, folks.

00:41:29.440 It just is.

00:41:32.100 It just is.

00:41:34.060 And that's how that works.

00:41:37.300 I want to talk to a guy named Chris.

00:41:40.180 He's in Bethpage, New York, not far from where I live, by the way.

00:41:42.480 Please don't come stalk me.

00:41:44.180 Chris, you think that it isn't just Islamism that's built on hatred. 0.86

00:41:47.920 You've got a larger group you want to say that's built on hatred. 0.92

00:41:50.300 yes jake and first of all you're the best hire cats and the teenagers done in a long time you

00:41:57.220 are great seriously um your check is in the mail check's in the mail chris thank you no thank you

00:42:02.360 no really you you're you're tremendous um so yes this is now i got i'm 63 years old i got a group

00:42:10.340 of friends that i grew up with basically and you know went to college with and a lot of them are

00:42:15.260 to the left okay they they have a hatred they're they're on the left their religion is hatred you

00:42:22.880 know really it is of donald trump i've never seen anything like it i always say to them i go why

00:42:28.680 does this guy work you up so much i don't understand it it's like it's a religious cult

00:42:33.540 this hatred of trump it's insane so you know i go to church once a week um i'm a catholic uh it's

00:42:41.700 funny though i was saying there's three times a year i do not go to church i don't go palm sunday

00:42:45.540 i don't go easter and i don't go christmas that that's for the uh tourists show up out of nowhere

00:42:51.620 the religious the religious tourists exactly and it drives me nuts you can't even get parking so

00:42:57.440 it's crazy so anyhow what i was saying is i mean i get up in the morning i go to work and sort of 0.86

00:43:03.200 most of my friends who voted for trump on that side they go to work they do this that but those

00:43:08.840 uh who got nothing better to do they get up and they have these kings rallies you know these uh

00:43:13.480 no kings rallies and it's built on hatred no facts and to me it is an absolute cult there's

00:43:20.680 no doubt about it hating trump is a religion and you can never prove any you know you said what i

00:43:27.380 always say to them i go guys if you want to talk about the issues and you want to talk about tax

00:43:33.420 cuts and and you know going into war and stuff like that that's an issue okay and protecting

00:43:38.520 the border. I'm your guy. Let's have a discussion. But if you're going to go off on mean tweets and,

00:43:44.120 you know, stupid things he says or whatever, or trying to build things in the White House and 1.00

00:43:50.020 they get all worked up, this hatred. And I go, guys, there's got to be something better you can 1.00

00:43:55.200 do. And I try to tell him, try to go to mass once a week for that one hour a week. I feel good about

00:44:01.580 the world and myself. So anyhow, in a roundabout way, all I'm trying to say is I've never seen

00:44:08.500 anything like it and i don't know what these people are going to do when trump is finally out

00:44:12.480 of office in a couple years i'm worried for them because i don't know what they're going to do you

00:44:16.360 know what i mean like who are they going to hate the the you're you're so hitting the nail on the

00:44:20.440 head uh chris because the trump hatred um and how it encourages people to want to burn it all down

00:44:28.840 you know like the old story you lose the chess match and then you flip the chessboard this is

00:44:32.920 more than that this is burning the entire chessboard down and the game room and the house and the rest

00:44:37.540 of the block. This is insane to me. But I'm not surprised because I agree. I saw from the

00:44:46.460 beginning this incredible hatred for the man personally. I have news for most of you out there.

00:44:52.100 If you really personally hate President Trump, I have really good news for you.

00:44:56.240 You're probably never going to meet him. You'll never have to be in the same room with him.

00:45:00.420 if you can somehow separate your emotional, visceral response that you have to this guy

00:45:07.840 with the actual policies that he's enacted, you might still not like those policies.

00:45:14.700 I have a feeling you might like some of them, if you have any common sense.

00:45:19.220 You know, the problem with human beings is we're emotional creatures.

00:45:23.800 I don't care how well-educated you are.

00:45:26.480 I don't care how reasonable you are in your life.

00:45:29.960 A lot of the decisions you're going to be making will still be emotionally based.

00:45:33.300 And if you're in a good place emotionally, your emotions will be based in fact, and they'll end up being the same as what a non-emotional computer or Mr. Spock would do.

00:45:42.380 That's when you're in good shape.

00:45:44.500 But sometimes they just aren't.

00:45:46.700 Don't we know a lot of people who are really wealthy and successful and make a lot of good decisions, but they have a spouse that's just outrageously bad?

00:45:54.560 Don't we know people who do great things with their lives?

00:45:59.040 They're wonderful people.

00:45:59.900 They're good parents, but they go and they do things like bet on the horses too much or drink too much or things like that.

00:46:07.720 I mean, those are emotional things.

00:46:09.700 It's not like, oh, they looked at all the statistics and said, I should gamble half my salary away or I should have 16 tequilas.

00:46:16.280 Those are emotional decisions people are making.

00:46:18.300 They're not rational decisions.

00:46:20.320 The hatred of Donald Trump, the fear of him, is off the charts.

00:46:26.180 And I feel sorry for these people. I really do.

00:46:28.660 I also feel sorry because I don't know how they're going to be able to extricate themselves from this ever,

00:46:33.800 even when he's out of the White House. It won't matter.

00:46:35.740 We saw during the four years that Joe Biden was president,

00:46:38.960 Donald Trump was still the most reported-on individual in the world all during those four years.

00:46:43.920 Almost any given night, even the mainstream media was reporting about Donald Trump first

00:46:47.900 before they got anything to anything Joe Biden may or may not have done, or with his auto pen.

00:46:54.040 This is a sickness.

00:46:56.160 And it's making me really, really sad because I've seen millions of my fellow Americans

00:47:00.660 and a lot of my friends and relatives afflicted by the sickness,

00:47:03.980 and there's nothing I can do to help them.

00:47:07.340 If all things else were being equal, I would tell these friends and relatives,

00:47:11.780 go see a psychiatrist, go see a psychologist.

00:47:14.440 But you know what? I know a lot of psychologists and psychiatrists,

00:47:17.000 they're afflicted by the same affliction most of them most psychiatrists and psychologists i know

00:47:21.340 are also afflicted with trump derangement syndrome trump hatred i mean there's no getting away from

00:47:28.320 this is a pervasive illness i feel like that episode of star trek when kirk beams down to

00:47:33.740 the insane asylum and it turns out that it's the inmates who are running the asylum

00:47:37.740 this is the way i feel right now i felt this way for a long time and not because i'm superior

00:47:43.960 Not because I know better, just because, listen, I know what mental illness is when I see it.

00:47:48.780 I don't have the professional training to specifically diagnose it, and I certainly can't prescribe any medicine for you.

00:47:57.500 I mean, I got a lot of people saying, like, well, you're not a doctor.

00:47:59.420 How can you say someone's mentally ill?

00:48:00.920 The same way that if I see someone coughing up blood, I can say there's definitely a problem here, maybe tuberculosis.

00:48:06.340 I don't need my MD to say that, folks.

00:48:08.420 And I don't need my PhD or a psychiatric MD to know that someone is mentally ill.

00:48:16.300 I may not be able to treat them or specifically tell them what their illness is, specifically.

00:48:22.100 That's where we are in America right now, but I want to get a little bit more upbeat in our next hour.

00:48:26.760 I'm Jake Novak, and we're having a great show here this evening on this Easter night.

00:48:31.960 Keep calling it.

00:48:38.420 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:48:44.760 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:48:50.860 I'm Jake Novak in for Anthony Cumia on this eventful news-packed Easter night.

00:48:56.900 So let's get us all rebooted, updated on what's going on right now in the world.

00:49:02.620 What a huge news day this has been.

00:49:04.340 And it started in the overnight hours when we learned the great news that that other crew member on the shot down F-15 jet in Iran had been rescued and safe, rescued safely.

00:49:15.300 Amazing rescue effort, probably the greatest military for military rescue effort that I can ever remember.

00:49:23.480 I mean, this was a difficult operation.

00:49:25.380 And everyone involved kind of a hero, including that downed crewman who had to do a lot to keep himself alive and keep himself safe, doing a lot of smart things, and to find a way to get his signal out in an encrypted fashion to the people who could rescue him.

00:49:40.960 Then, of course, you had all the U.S. forces, both in the air and on the ground, going to get him, keeping the Iranian forces who were rushing to get to him first off kilter, killing many of them.

00:49:52.120 A small help from Israel, according to President Trump and other published reports as well.

00:49:56.680 Just a lot of heroes around.

00:49:58.060 And to me, call it an Eastern miracle, whatever you want to call it.

00:50:02.340 You don't have to be a religious person to realize that this is an incredible human effort that ended in good news for the decent people of the world.

00:50:09.620 That's for sure. Of course, the other story that's going on is that the clock is ticking.

00:50:14.100 President Trump now making it clear that it's going to be Tuesday when the deadline will run out for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.

00:50:23.120 He sent out a very posted on his true social account, a very salty post with the F word included.

00:50:30.440 And I'm not kidding. And basically said they got to reopen the Strait or all hell is going to break loose.

00:50:37.760 that's going to be the end for them. And we'll see where that goes. Those are two things that

00:50:42.160 are happening, definitely developing stories right now. Now, I want to get you some breaking

00:50:46.920 news just in the last couple of hours because news never stops. I was talking in my morning

00:50:52.560 radio show this morning. I've been on the air on and off since 5 a.m. So if I go a little loopy,

00:50:57.740 you'll have to excuse me. I was talking about how the markets have had a number of pieces of news

00:51:03.220 that they haven't had a chance to react to yet because the markets were closed here in the

00:51:06.860 united states for good friday so now we're seeing the reaction for what we would call the futures

00:51:11.280 market at 6 p.m eastern time futures traders people who it's a it's not a huge volume of

00:51:17.200 trading but it is it gives us an indication about where the markets are going to open at least where

00:51:21.360 they're going to start and the futures and the stocks are down but they're not down tremendously

00:51:25.660 we're down 154 points on the dow percentage wise that's not even uh 0.4 percent it's only a third

00:51:32.400 of 1%. So it's not a huge down. The S&P 500, which is a broader base thing, down only 0.2%.

00:51:38.700 And the NASDAQ is really flat. It's basically zero. Where's oil, you might ask? Where are the

00:51:44.080 oil futures, you might be asking? They're up two, but also just fractionally, just 67 cents.

00:51:49.520 We're at a very high number at $112 a barrel for U.S. crude, but that's where it closed on

00:51:54.560 Thursday. So we're at $112 a barrel. There we are. That's getting you an update on what's

00:52:00.740 happening uh we could have these markets turn higher uh by the by the morning that could easily

00:52:06.780 happen it isn't just the iran news that they're responding to they're also responding to the jobs

00:52:10.860 report that came out on friday even though the markets were closed the bureau of labor statistics

00:52:16.100 still decided to release that report on good friday and it showed a gain of net gain of 178

00:52:22.580 000 net new jobs in the economy added in march economists were only expecting 59 000

00:52:28.860 So there was good news on that front.

00:52:30.780 We'll see how the markets are going to respond to that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:52:35.220 But again, it's still Easter night, and I'm really interested in hearing what you have to say about not only the Iran war and not only about our economy, but also some of your religious thoughts right now.

00:52:45.200 And because of that, I want to hear from Harriet in Brooklyn, who definitely has an apocalyptic end-of-days kind of thought in her mind right now.

00:52:54.280 Harriet, tell us what's on your mind.

00:52:57.180 Oh, okay.

00:52:57.880 Thank you.

00:52:58.380 You're great.

00:52:59.360 I want to thank Mr. Casamitidis for putting you on staff because you're the best.

00:53:05.540 Jake, I see Mandati, and when he said globalize the intifada, that spelled it all.

00:53:16.280 I sent Mr. Casamitidis a copy of Icon of Evil, which there was a classic picture in 1941 of Hitler.

00:53:26.180 and Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem.

00:53:29.920 You've got to get a hold of that, if you could ask him, and post it online so that people understand.

00:53:35.380 I wrote a whole article about that, Harriet, with that picture as the illustration,

00:53:40.280 because I believe that Hamas is Hitler—I don't know if you're a fan of Harry Potter, 0.88

00:53:45.060 but Hamas is Hitler's last horcrux, the last piece of Hitler's soul still existing in the world. 0.86

00:53:51.080 Not because they liked him, but because the Muslim Brotherhood, which was the forerunner of Hamas and all these Islamist groups, was funded and guided by the Nazis. 0.69

00:54:00.620 Literally, not just by spirit, not spiritually, but literally funded. 0.74

00:54:05.660 They gave them pamphlets.

00:54:07.900 They gave them money.

00:54:08.800 They gave them strategic advice.

00:54:10.780 So people need to understand that when we say words like Islamo-Nazis, it's not an insult.

00:54:15.620 It's a fact.

00:54:16.400 No.

00:54:17.340 True. 0.90

00:54:17.820 And when Mandani said, globalize the Intifada, you could tell that this man is Muslim Brotherhood. 0.76

00:54:24.980 Muslims are nice people, but Muslim Brotherhood is fanatical Islam. 0.84

00:54:29.960 And it follows the line of Haj Amin al-Husseini, who wanted to take down Western civilization and Jews. 0.73

00:54:38.040 First, he hated Churchill. 0.94

00:54:39.860 He hated FDR.

00:54:41.360 They're saying in the mosques now, first the Saturday people, then the Sunday people. 1.00

00:54:46.120 And this, there's no, you tell Fernando that you can't kiss this guy's ass, Mondani, because it's as though you're dealing with Hitler, Chamberlain and Hitler. 0.99

00:54:59.240 You've got to understand that you're dealing with the devil here. 0.98

00:55:02.480 Yeah, you know, Harriet, I appreciate your call, and thank you for calling in, and thank you for your kind words off the top.

00:55:07.200 I promise, folks, these are not my relatives or anyone I'm paying off to say nice things about me.

00:55:10.740 Thank you for that.

00:55:11.960 I wish I had more relatives in New York.

00:55:13.840 I kind of don't have too many.

00:55:16.120 Let me say something about this, because I want to make this very, very clear, because, again, I am someone who is not only a student of history, but someone, I think, who tries his best to appreciate history and the lessons of history.

00:55:28.280 I want to make this distinction very clearly. 0.98

00:55:30.380 This is radical Islam that we're talking about, Islamism, and yes, it has overtaken way too much of the Islamic world overall. 0.71

00:55:37.860 But if you know your history well, you also understand, let's just take it from the standpoint of my people, the Jewish people, and this is something that may shock you. 1.00

00:55:46.120 For hundreds of years, it was better to be a Jew in the Muslim world than the Christian world.

00:55:52.440 It's just a fact. 0.94

00:55:54.080 Yes, Jews were still second- and third-class citizens under Muslims.

00:55:57.240 Yes, there was still violence against them every once in a while. 1.00

00:56:00.020 But for the most part, it was better for them. 0.77

00:56:03.060 The person who definitively changed that trajectory was Napoleon. 0.89

00:56:08.920 There had been some parts of Europe that had already started to liberate the Jews

00:56:12.240 and give them wonderful rights and wonderful opportunities,

00:56:14.760 But it wasn't until Napoleon conquered damn near all of Europe and gave Jews citizenship and power wherever he went that that fully changed, that that equation changed. 0.64

00:56:25.600 Plus, there was a technological and quality of life factor in Europe that far exceeded the Middle East by that time, the Muslim world in general. 0.95

00:56:32.620 And so it was better to be any human being in the Christian world at that point. 0.91

00:56:36.640 So why do I bring this up?

00:56:38.120 Because I do believe for all the jokes that say there'll never be peace in the Middle East and the Jews and the Muslims will never get along,

00:56:43.840 baloney you don't know your history we did have a relatively decent history for some periods of

00:56:49.300 time and when i meet people from the uae and bahrain who have suddenly become very friendly

00:56:55.200 to israel and to jews in general i tell them this isn't a new thing in history this is a reset

00:57:01.100 let's reset where we were before radical islam became a thing and i think that we have a chance

00:57:07.500 i'm incredibly encouraged especially by muslims who are not from the arab world places like

00:57:13.420 Indonesia, places like parts of South America, places like China, the Uyghurs. These are Muslim

00:57:21.460 groups that do understand pluralism. It's not perfect. We're not singing kumbaya. I get it. 0.87

00:57:29.300 Our beef is with radical Islam, and it is sadly a big part of Islam now because it's grown 1.00

00:57:36.440 exponentially since the 1890s when it started. Iran has made it the forefront of a lot of the 1.00

00:57:42.260 Islamic world, and it's a terrible shame. Mostly for Muslims. For all the horrible things they've 1.00

00:57:47.920 done to Christians and Jews, it's really the Muslims who have suffered. Who's died the most? 1.00

00:57:52.320 Muslims kill more Muslims than any Christian or Jew who's ever killed any of them in a given year. 1.00

00:57:57.760 In one year, more Muslims are going to kill more Muslims than Jews and Christians combined have 1.00

00:58:01.620 killed them from the beginning of time. And that's just a fact. That's just the mathematics. 1.00

00:58:05.760 This has been a tragedy for the Muslim people more than anyone else.

00:58:08.540 but i want to make that distinction because honestly there is hope if i didn't think there

00:58:14.480 was any hope for jews and and muslims to live together and christians and muslims to live

00:58:19.820 together in peace i wouldn't be doing radio i'd be building a bomb shelter okay i do believe that 0.77

00:58:25.980 there's a chance here but we've got to push back and defeating the iranian regime is a major

00:58:30.900 linchpin of this it's a major linchpin of this they are the leading islamic radical nation in 0.57

00:58:38.260 the world, Islamist radical nation in the world, and they have been for almost 50 years, that regime 0.94

00:58:44.280 needs to fall and needs to fall hard for us to have this chance of peace in the world between 0.95

00:58:50.760 the major religions of the world. I fully believe that. And it's based on my education. It's based 0.91

00:58:56.900 on my observing of what's been going on in the world. And it's also based on my basic human

00:59:03.140 decency. I'm not going to demonize an entire people. I'm just not going to do that. But I

00:59:10.220 will demonize an ideology that's trying to kill almost everyone else who isn't part of their

00:59:15.260 ideology. That I am demonizing. During the Nazi Germany, had I been alive then and after that,

00:59:22.780 I don't want all the German people to die, although a lot of them were tremendously 0.60

00:59:26.440 complicit in Nazism. I want everyone guilty to face the ultimate penalty, but in general, 0.87

00:59:33.540 no, let's give it a chance. And that turned out to be a good decision, right? So let's remember

00:59:39.500 that. And I appreciate Harriet for reminding us of the specific names of some of the people who

00:59:44.620 have really been responsible for that. It's really, really important. All right. I want to

00:59:49.960 talk to George in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, because he's also, sounds like you are also

00:59:54.240 really keyed in to the radical hatred among some people in America. Tell us about what you think

01:00:00.400 the origins are. Well, I think the origins is that we have become a country that's divided.

01:00:07.580 That's it. And if you are on the losing side with the issues, you can only use hatred. And

01:00:13.920 that's what the leftists do. Let's face it. Eighty five percent of the people who voted for

01:00:19.660 Mami Kami, the mayor, they were foreign-born, you know, and they would put the lie out,

01:00:25.840 oh, a bunch of college kids are going to vote him.

01:00:27.960 It wasn't college kids.

01:00:29.080 It was foreign-born people who voted him in, and he was born, you know, in Uganda.

01:00:34.500 He just became a citizen six years ago.

01:00:36.880 So the hard left, you know, brought in with the Republican establishment, they brought 0.96

01:00:41.540 in 100 million third worlders into America, and people are out there in this audience 0.97

01:00:46.300 scratching their heads why we became a third world country, that's the reason why we became

01:00:51.300 a third world country. You could never bring up legal immigration on any show. You would be thrown

01:00:56.740 off the air as fast as you could say hello to the guest or to the host on the show. And the problem

01:01:04.560 is people just, in America, we make fun of Paris and London because, well, but folks, there are

01:01:11.960 people who are patriotic in those countries who didn't want to be invaded. They just live in small

01:01:16.200 countries and cities there was no way for them to run in america come on let's face it you're in

01:01:21.340 new york you can run to florida years ago people would run to california now california's gone

01:01:26.840 california they run to arizona and idaho those two states will eventually go to just like just like

01:01:32.260 texas so you were able to run that's the only difference between here and there both countries

01:01:37.580 but i mean both continents have been invaded from the third world yeah i i by the way i think i got

01:01:43.780 your name wrong you're this is you're steve right from manhattan not from bucks county i'm sorry

01:01:47.120 about that getting your name wrong there uh steve um your points are correct this is something that

01:01:52.000 has to print again i'm mostly an optimistic person but this is what you're touching on

01:01:56.760 is exactly what has been depressing me in many ways about the new nature of the divide in america

01:02:04.420 there's always been political division i mean political division was already so bad that when

01:02:08.220 george washington was stepping down from office one of his big warnings was stop with all this

01:02:13.280 partisan division he thought he could my hey sorry no one listened to you uh because it only got

01:02:18.480 worse but what we have seen in the last several years is not the same old partisan division we

01:02:24.020 are not no longer having a debate between people two different groups of people who think they

01:02:29.020 have a better idea for what will make america better we're not what we're having now is a

01:02:35.600 debate between people who want america to survive and people who are being funded by

01:02:40.900 and influenced by the literal enemies of America.

01:02:45.200 There is no logical reason for any Democrat,

01:02:47.840 I don't care how far left you think you are,

01:02:49.800 to be in favor of open borders.

01:02:52.620 There's no logical reason for a person in the Democrat Party

01:02:55.820 to say illegal immigrants are my number one priority,

01:02:58.860 which many of them have said.

01:03:00.320 There's no logical reason for anyone in the Democratic Party

01:03:03.560 to say let's empty the jails and defund the police.

01:03:06.600 The only logical argument for that

01:03:08.700 is that somebody who wants to destroy America

01:03:10.780 is paying them to say that. You're listening to The Anthony Cumia Show. It's Jake Novak

01:03:15.100 filling in for him. We'll be right back. It's The Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast

01:03:21.280 Network. It's The Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:03:29.940 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia. All right, I might be walking into a minefield

01:03:34.340 right now, but he's been waiting on the line for a long time. Russ in White Plains, you want to

01:03:39.120 talk 25th amendment huh well jake yeah i've been on since fernando was on but i'm so glad you were

01:03:46.880 out of that snowflake steve of the right from uh valley forge or wherever he was i'm so glad you

01:03:53.040 recognized the callers but can i ask you one thing i was going to ask fernando because i

01:03:57.080 you probably have an opinion sure go ahead okay so you know uh fernando ran against curtis in

01:04:02.420 You know, 2019. And Curtis ran against Adams, lost by 30 points.

01:04:10.000 What I wanted to ask, Fernando, and I'll ask you, is that if Curtis had gone head to head with Mondami, would he not have done better against Mondami than he did against Adams?

01:04:19.660 And wouldn't that be because it was that third party involvement?

01:04:22.960 Well, you know, either way, Russ, this was, I think, election manipulation.

01:04:29.840 Either way, there were too many people involved in this campaign, people who didn't really have a chance one way or the other.

01:04:37.920 You know, election manipulation and election integrity can be destroyed.

01:04:43.100 Election manipulation happens and election integrity can happen in a lot of different ways.

01:04:47.140 My favorite story of this was John F. Kennedy.

01:04:50.760 Now, John F. Kennedy – and by the way, I'm mostly a fan of him and his political career, so this is not meant to bash the Kennedys here.

01:04:58.920 John F. Kennedy ran for Congress in 1946.

01:05:01.380 He won that election.

01:05:02.340 Now, just like a lot of Democrat cities back then and today, he just had to win the Democrat primary to win that congressional election to the House of Representatives, mostly Boston-based district.

01:05:12.220 The problem is he was going up against an Italian incumbent who was very popular and well-known.

01:05:18.700 And what did Joseph P. Kennedy, the old man, do?

01:05:21.880 He got another guy to run in the race who had the same last Italian name as the other guy, thus splitting the vote.

01:05:28.580 And that was what – otherwise JFK never would have had a political career because for those of you who know, he was a health mess his whole life.

01:05:36.280 In 1946, he was especially a health mess.

01:05:38.960 He was still wounded from the war.

01:05:40.720 He weighed about three pounds.

01:05:42.520 The JFK that we all see in the pictures from the neck up had a lot of steroids.

01:05:46.980 The rest of his body was stick-like. 0.97

01:05:48.500 He was a sickly individual.

01:05:49.980 There's a good chance he would have died without Lee Harvey Oswald killing him before he would have finished two terms had he been reelected.

01:05:55.960 So my point is, whether you think Curtis would have done better, whether you think there was I think we all agree we could have we could have used better candidates, period.

01:06:05.480 The fact is this was a manipulated election.

01:06:08.420 And I don't know if we're ever going to get the full story on this, but this was a manipulated election.

01:06:13.540 And our election integrity in this country is under fire all the time.

01:06:18.320 People say there's no election fraud or election manipulation are incredibly naive. 0.88

01:06:22.560 and they're ignoramuses, and I can't have too many discussions with people like that, Russ. 0.76

01:06:26.740 I agree. We don't have democracy, and that's why most people don't vote. 0.96

01:06:31.060 And I voted for Trump twice, but I didn't vote either way with Hillary and him the first time.

01:06:35.680 But as a student of history, Jake, I'd like to ask you about Iran air 655 in 1988

01:06:42.120 when the USS Wisconsin shot, you know about it, they shot down 290 innocent Iranians, 66 children.

01:06:50.420 That's not including the 160 girls who we just dropped the cruise missile on.

01:06:54.820 Now, where is there something comparable about that here in the United States? 0.66

01:06:59.220 Because I think it's really – what Trump is doing is depraved and squalid. 0.90

01:07:03.280 I voted for him twice, but I wonder – you know, the 25th Amendment was a result of Wilson, who was, you know, basically crapping his pants, if you'll excuse his impression. 0.93

01:07:13.220 Although he recovered.

01:07:14.380 You know, it's interesting.

01:07:15.200 The thing about – thank you, Russ, for the call.

01:07:17.440 And I'm going to get to your points about Iran in a second.

01:07:19.680 But people need to understand this about Woodrow Wilson. In his two last years as president, that second to last year, he was absolutely incapacitated. And his wife, Edith, was really very much doing a lot of his business for him, which is not right. And people realized that that was a problem.

01:07:38.160 Woodrow Wilson, however, did recover in his last year.

01:07:40.780 And I think that Woodrow Wilson enacted many policies in this country and traditions that have been ruinous to this country.

01:07:46.580 For one thing, he created that politicized judiciary in this country.

01:07:51.520 It was not like that before Wilson turned that into that.

01:07:54.340 And he was also not the greatest guy on a lot of other counts.

01:07:57.320 That said, people should understand, he did recover in his last year and get compus mentis again.

01:08:03.340 Now, as far as the accidental destruction of that civilian aircraft by the USS Vincennes in the late 1980s, first of all, the United States apologized for that.

01:08:15.980 Second of all, the United States wouldn't have had to have a military presence where bad things go wrong.

01:08:21.640 When everyone has a gun at a table, think of your old Westerns, and the guns are all cocked, bad things are going to happen. 0.98

01:08:29.540 The U.S. wouldn't have needed such a huge military presence in the Middle East in the first place if it weren't for the fact that back then Iraq and also Iran were absolutely great dangers to the rest of the civilized world. 0.91

01:08:42.040 And if you want to play the numbers game with me, ask me, like, what American deaths are similar to that? 0.98

01:08:49.980 Well, what about the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, hundreds killed by Iran?

01:08:56.860 maybe a thousand or more american troops in the gulf war killed by iran iran wasn't a combatant

01:09:02.720 in the gulf war what were they doing killing our troops in iraq what about the kobar towers

01:09:09.080 what about all the other terrorist acts iran is the number one terrorist regime in the world for

01:09:15.120 almost 50 years don't play the body count game with me and by the way i do this by the way with 0.51

01:09:19.400 people on religion too you ever meet someone who says religion is the reason for so much death all

01:09:24.060 the deaths in the world, don't play the body count game with me on religion and non-religion.

01:09:28.380 When we add up the dead people from the Soviet Union, from China, from North Korea, 0.73

01:09:36.280 I've got your religious deaths totally outnumbered over the last couple of hundred years. So don't 1.00

01:09:42.640 play that game with me either. Mathematics is a science, and it's one of my favorite sciences

01:09:47.460 because it should end arguments for people who have those numbers at their fingertips. 0.99

01:09:51.740 The fact is, Iran has killed many, many more people than the United States ever has, and we did it accidentally, and it's a terrible thing that it happened accidentally. 0.73

01:10:02.100 But come on, folks, that's not the way it goes. 0.98

01:10:04.020 All right, I'm Jake Novak in for Anthony Cumia.

01:10:06.180 We've got another 90 minutes of broadcast excellence coming up.

01:10:09.520 We'll be taking more of your calls and talking about the big stories.

01:10:12.380 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:10:16.900 it's the anthony cumia show on the red apple podcast network

01:10:23.740 i'm jake novak filling in for anthony cumia we're gonna by the way for those of you i have a story

01:10:29.840 that you're not gonna hear anywhere else about um some americans who are being held in the nation

01:10:34.700 of guinea right now that's western africa not new guinea it's a it's a nation called guinea and i'm

01:10:40.100 gonna talk to someone who's really really involved with that in just a second uh we're gonna do that

01:10:44.360 towards the end of the hour, but I want to talk to Linda right now because she wants to talk about

01:10:49.060 immigration. And before we do that, I want to talk about something interesting that happened

01:10:52.520 in Western Pennsylvania a couple of days ago. Now, remember here in the United States in the

01:10:57.620 late 80s when law enforcement officers, law enforcement organizations, in other words,

01:11:04.100 police stations, police departments, started to do this thing where they would call up or mail

01:11:08.840 all the people who were on outstanding warrants for serious crimes, people they couldn't find,

01:11:13.720 and they would either call them up and say,

01:11:15.580 hey, you just won Yankee season tickets.

01:11:19.060 Come down to this address and we're going to give them to you.

01:11:21.620 And some of them actually showed up and they would find these people.

01:11:24.740 Something similar to that may, underline the word,

01:11:27.460 may have happened in Western PA a couple days ago.

01:11:30.860 Somebody, we don't know who did this,

01:11:33.440 sent out the word that if you have a commercial driver's license,

01:11:37.400 you need to renew it,

01:11:38.900 even if you have a later renewal date on that commercial driver's license.

01:11:43.720 And so they must have spread this word throughout most of the immigrant or illegal immigrant community.

01:11:47.820 And so a ton of people lined up near Pittsburgh outside of a DMV-type office, and ICE showed up and nabbed dozens of illegal immigrants who had commercial driver's licenses.

01:11:58.840 And as you know, this has been a really, really controversial issue here in the United States lately because of the accidents that have happened from people who couldn't even read English and were illegal immigrants in states like California, and in some cases New York now, too,

01:12:12.240 issued them a commercial driver's license. Just outrageous. Linda in New Jersey, 0.97

01:12:17.400 you're not loving the immigration situation in this country either, are you?

01:12:20.880 No, I'm not. And as a matter of fact, I think we have to stop all illegal immigration and all 1.00

01:12:26.000 legal immigration for now. And it's just been a total disaster. I mean, Michigan, 0.99

01:12:32.360 Dearborn, Michigan is a total disgrace. Epic City in Texas was a total disgrace. 0.77

01:12:37.680 And the land commissioners are also a total disgrace that are selling us out.

01:12:44.740 And I would like to say that even we shouldn't be asking for workers because if you need workers for your beehive, you don't ask hornets and wasps to come into your beehive and expect good results.

01:13:03.480 I mean, a lot of times you may have these South Americans coming in to Mexico or whatever to come in and work the farms. 0.98

01:13:13.260 But what do you get? You get crops of wisteria, O. coli. You get crime. You get rape. You get murder.

01:13:19.140 A lot of these people are criminals, and they're not good farm workers, and they don't even have to wash their hands.

01:13:26.240 And many of them that have come in didn't even know about washing their hands.

01:13:30.480 You know, that, however, you know, I agree with the first point, and this is a discussion that I don't know if we can have in America because people will just freak out.

01:13:39.320 But because we had massive open borders under Biden for four years and it was 10, 20, who knows, 30 million people rushed across this border illegally, it is important for us to discuss even legal immigration right now and decide whether we need to put very drastic curbs on that as well.

01:13:56.440 I agree with you there. Not so much for the reasons, though, that you mentioned later, because those things have always been an issue among even legal immigrants.

01:14:04.760 The reason why we need to look at all immigration right now is because we may be oversaturated with immigrants to the point where we really can't handle it culturally or structurally. 0.95

01:14:15.820 When we have a situation where we're giving out cash cards to people to live in hotels or bussing them around the country or something else like that, that isn't a workable. 1.00

01:14:25.780 That isn't the Statue of Liberty, America built on a melting pot of immigrants type of situation. 0.90

01:14:31.300 That is – I always tell my friends when they come back at me with the, well, American immigration and all of our ideals, you're absolutely right.

01:14:37.380 But what's happened in the last four years has changed that equation. 0.98

01:14:41.540 We're no longer in a relevant world of discussing immigration on any logical basis anymore because what we had was this massive influx. 1.00

01:14:49.960 It was a free-for-all. 0.94

01:14:51.340 It wasn't in any way regulated, and we do need to figure out how many people actually did come into this country, where they are, what aspects of the economy they're affecting, what aspects of crime they're affecting, what good things they might be doing.

01:15:04.760 We need to find out.

01:15:05.480 We don't know.

01:15:06.120 And until we know, we might want to consider shutting all immigration down for some period.

01:15:11.340 And President Trump, by the way, is in some ways doing that.

01:15:15.180 You know what he wants to do?

01:15:16.100 He wants to increase the minimum salary that you have to pay someone who gets an H-1B visa.

01:15:21.640 In other words, this H-1B visa, which some people used to call the genius visa, something that we didn't have here in the United States, and it was for a very needed skill and a high-paying job.

01:15:31.140 And then, of course, corporations started to abuse it, and they're using these H-1B visas for entry-level positions, mid-level positions, positions that American-born, even immigrants, and legal citizens, whether they're American-born or not, really should be getting.

01:15:45.520 So he's doing that a little bit.

01:15:47.660 But I don't know if the farm concerns and things like that, which have always been an issue, are the reason to shut down.

01:15:54.700 I think it's because, Linda, of the last four years, not because of some of these other issues.

01:15:58.460 Well, we need to update our farm equipment.

01:16:00.420 Yes. Yes, I agree. Linda, I thank you for the call. Listen, folks, we're in an immigration. Everyone in this country, for the most part, I mean, how many people came over on the Mayflower and their families came over on the Mayflower? Not a lot. Obviously, we're a nation of immigrants. This is a cliche. This is a trope. It doesn't tell us anything.

01:16:19.560 The question is, are people here legally?

01:16:21.880 Are people here because they want to make it?

01:16:24.000 Is that why they're here?

01:16:24.700 If that's why they're here, I think I can work with you. 0.97

01:16:26.900 I can work with you, but I can't prioritize you and your needs over poor American citizens 0.98

01:16:32.820 and poor American-born people.

01:16:35.100 I cannot do that. 1.00

01:16:36.220 I'm sorry.

01:16:37.540 These people like Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut, who said the quiet part

01:16:41.440 out loud, that his priority is illegal immigrants.

01:16:46.620 how is that how is that something that somebody says out loud unless they're funded by

01:16:51.980 the enemies of this country unless they're funded by people who want to see a complete collapse of

01:16:57.780 our economy people like george soros who made his billions betting against the british pound

01:17:03.100 that's how he likes to make his money when big economies crumble he must be very very frustrated

01:17:08.000 because despite all the damage he's done to the u.s culturally and politically we're still the

01:17:14.740 prettiest horse in the glue factory when it comes

01:17:16.760 to currency and economy in the

01:17:18.740 world. So he hasn't gotten his wish,

01:17:20.720 which is to crash the U.S. economy. He's got a lot

01:17:22.760 of bets on this economy collapsing

01:17:24.780 and the collapse of the dollar.

01:17:26.460 That's why he wants no law and order. It's not because

01:17:28.740 he's a liberal. He's not a liberal. He

01:17:30.520 is a vulture

01:17:31.760 waiting. He's a hyena. He's waiting

01:17:34.820 for the carcass of America 0.76

01:17:36.740 that he can feed off of. He has no

01:17:38.840 political beliefs. He has no political

01:17:40.600 virtues. He never has.

01:17:43.260 Calling him a leftist is an

01:17:44.700 insult to leftists, and I'm proud to insult leftists all day and all night. But he's not a

01:17:49.580 leftist. He's a vulture. And what he's doing, he knows what he's doing. He knows that societies

01:17:54.880 get destroyed the following ways. This is how you destroy a good society. Start questioning law and

01:18:00.820 order to the point where basically everyone says punishment isn't based on right or wrong. It's

01:18:05.240 just color of your skin, your birth order, your gender, etc. Inject anti-Semitism into society.

01:18:13.100 Oh, he loves that one. Anti-Semitism has ruined every society where it's taken big hold. There's anti-Semitism everywhere, but where it really takes hold, where it really gets strong, it destroys the society. Destroyed Tsarist Russia. It destroyed the Soviet Union. It destroyed France. Read up on the Dreyfus Affair. The Dreyfus Affair didn't create modern Zionism. It did. It didn't just do that. It destroyed France.

01:18:36.360 For those of you who think France has always been a bunch of losers and wussies, it wasn't. 0.97

01:18:42.260 They were a really good war nation, Napoleon especially. 0.96

01:18:46.860 France was destroyed by the Dreyfus Affair, a national anti-Semitic event.

01:18:51.840 And George Soros knows this, and that's why he's been very much funding the anti-Semitism in this country. 0.75

01:18:57.400 And yes, he was born a Jew. Read your history.

01:18:59.900 Some of the greatest enemies of the Jewish people sprang from a Jewish womb, okay? 1.00

01:19:03.460 It's not ironic or even funny that he happens to be ethnically Jewish. He is not a practicing Jew. He is an enemy of the Jewish people, as many other people who have sprung from Jewish wombs in the past since the time of the exodus from Egypt. That's nothing new, my friends. 0.99

01:19:18.280 who do you think you're talking to you're talking to you think you're talking to someone who hasn't

01:19:22.160 read a book that ain't me okay so don't don't don't try to surprise me with that one i know 0.69

01:19:27.040 that he's ethnically jewish i know that the nazis in hungary used him to rob the homes of his fellow

01:19:31.940 jews who have been sent to the gas chambers so it has nothing to do his ethnicity has nothing to do

01:19:40.300 with his with his mo which is really really bad that's how it goes joe akim is in pennsylvania

01:19:48.560 you know your hero name is jehoi akim i'm going to say that you say that your grandfather was a

01:19:52.340 world war one hero tell us about that yes yeah actually he won the iron cross twice he was an

01:19:57.760 officer of north africa but in the second world war he was a nazi official but he was wounded in

01:20:03.120 the first world war and had malaria so his health wasn't the best but everybody in germany during

01:20:08.120 World War II was a Nazi, and he was a prominent official, and he wound up being executed for

01:20:14.180 helping undesirable people. So kind of like a Schindler's this kind of thing, but he got caught.

01:20:19.520 He got caught. Yes, yes, exactly. He was called to Berlin, and he never came back.

01:20:24.660 You know, Jack, this is something that I've been, and I'm going to keep you on the line. Don't worry,

01:20:27.840 I'm not going to cut you off. I just want to say something. This is something that people have been

01:20:30.580 pointing out about what happened in Gaza compared to Nazi Germany. As bad as Nazi Germany was, 0.68

01:20:37.260 And as a high percentage of civilians who were complicit in the murder of Jews and gays and gypsies and all that kind of stuff, there were still a good number of people who helped save those people.

01:20:48.900 Not one person in Gaza picked up a phone.

01:20:51.760 Not one person in Gaza tried to help those Israeli hostages. 0.62

01:20:55.040 Not one person in Gaza did anything to save the Bibis babies who were murdered. 0.73

01:20:59.400 Not one. 0.96

01:21:00.660 And even Nazi Germany has a better record of humanity than that. 0.89

01:21:05.200 Go ahead. 0.75

01:21:05.480 my grandfather was a natural born hero because if he won this country medal of honor twice i mean 0.99

01:21:11.200 that says a lot for the man you know but anyway you know something i i honestly i'm an islamophobe 1.00

01:21:16.740 i believe that islam is completely incompatible western civilization and there are three main 0.67

01:21:21.640 points of the theological doctrine and the you know difference actually of the three religions 0.91

01:21:26.060 the jewish christian and islamic faith in the jewish religion the land of canaan actually is

01:21:32.160 what god promised to the to the jews and he did not command them to go out and make the rest of

01:21:36.880 the world jewish okay in christianity of course the kingdom of heaven you know the kingdom of 0.87

01:21:42.820 christ is the kingdom of heaven that's not of this world okay and so of course obviously do not 0.50

01:21:47.860 employ any violence you know and you could you convert people but in islam the theology is 0.85

01:21:54.120 actually submission to islam okay the muslim has to submit to allah and and everyone has to submit 0.91

01:22:00.100 to Islamic rule. And all those Islamic majority countries, yes, some of them may allow other 0.97

01:22:06.600 religions to exist there, but as long as they submit to Islamic rule. And as a matter of fact, 0.97

01:22:13.640 the Iraq war, I started to think that maybe this was deliberately done to help bring forth the 0.90

01:22:18.820 Islamization of the Western civilization, because Saddam Hussein was a Ba'athist. I'm not sure if 0.73

01:22:23.460 I'm saying that right. Yeah, he got that right. He kept the Muslim population under control in

01:22:29.000 country and iraq and iran were national enemies so why the heck did we go and take them out well 1.00

01:22:35.220 you know i'll tell you and i thank you and i thank you for your call iran absolutely was the winner

01:22:39.780 of the gulf war the second gulf war they won because they got rid of one of their big enemies

01:22:44.580 in saddam hussein in the sunni shia war that was going on between those two countries and in the

01:22:48.900 more secular versus more islamist world absolutely they weakened the united states

01:22:54.820 They weakened Israel.

01:22:57.080 I mean, people who think that the Gulf War was a war for Israel really don't know how to add because it wasn't good for Israel.

01:23:03.380 It hurt. Israel did not come out ahead from the Gulf War, and they certainly didn't lobby for it.

01:23:09.140 Did Benjamin Netanyahu, when he wasn't prime minister during those years, when he wasn't prime minister, come and testify before Congress about WMD in Iraq?

01:23:16.200 Yes, he did.

01:23:17.880 And I think he made a mistake there on that, and I get that.

01:23:20.760 But it wasn't a full-on – it doesn't mean that the war was because of Israel's behest.

01:23:25.660 He was trying to do President Bush a favor, frankly, and he paid for it.

01:23:29.340 But that's another story.

01:23:31.200 But I am a little bit more optimistic than you are about Islam because I have extensive experience with Muslims who don't come from the Arab world, Indonesia, South America, et cetera, et cetera.

01:23:44.160 And I do believe there's a chance there for a more pluralistic outlook.

01:23:49.200 I do believe that.

01:23:50.760 But we have a long way to go.

01:23:52.620 We have a long way to go on that.

01:23:54.380 David in New Rochelle, you have something to say about Jews and Muslims living in harmony

01:23:57.680 on this Easter and Passover weekend.

01:23:59.380 Okay, well, yes, thank you.

01:24:02.140 I had a wonderful Passover, actually.

01:24:04.040 Good.

01:24:04.360 It was the rabbi that had like five kids. 0.83

01:24:06.420 Got five more days. 0.79

01:24:07.160 No, no, no, it's still going on.

01:24:08.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:08.900 So there was like five, he had five kids there, and one of them clicked with me.

01:24:13.000 She was like, her name is Leah.

01:24:14.440 And all we did was laugh all night long, cracking jokes, and just having the best of times.

01:24:19.500 I mean, it was incredible.

01:24:20.760 But anyway, getting back to the Jewish people, before 1492, when the Jews were expelled, along with the Arabs in Spain, the Arabs and Jews lived in total harmony for, I think, at least 600 years.

01:24:32.620 That's right.

01:24:33.120 Now, the other thing I wanted to mention to you was during World War II, the Albanian government, even though it was under German rule, did not give up Jews.

01:24:40.800 When the Germans asked the Albanians for help to identify Jews, they told them nothing.

01:24:45.280 Yeah, fantastic historical facts here. 0.95

01:24:48.300 Absolutely.

01:24:48.700 This is why I'm more optimistic.

01:24:50.540 I'm not I'm not naive. I know there's a lot of work to do, but there is something there is a there is a foundation to build on here. Continue.

01:24:58.880 Yeah. Albania is more or less 70 percent Muslim. I know a lot of Albanians are great people, hardworking people, and they love Jewish people.

01:25:06.960 They respect them. They get along with them and they know their history. They know they helped them out during World War Two.

01:25:11.520 The other thing with President Trump, I think he should just finish it. I don't think he should give them any 48-hour window. Just get the job done and move on.

01:25:20.800 I agree. I agree, David, and have a happy rest of Passover. Chag Sameach to you.

01:25:25.540 Look, it's important for us to understand it's not all dark.

01:25:30.700 You know, I just mentioned Benjamin Netanyahu, who I believe is a great, great leader of Israel.

01:25:35.040 I'm sorry that he continues to be demonized by many Jews as well who have a similar derangement with him as many people have with Donald Trump, and that doesn't mean that he's perfect, and I have no personal interest in him personally.

01:25:46.520 I don't know him personally, and I probably never will.

01:25:48.460 I met him a couple times, but briefly.

01:25:51.520 But, you know, his father was a great professor, a great historian at Cornell University for many years, and his father and, you know, just to be honest, my father, who's also a big longtime professor still with us, I'm happy to say.

01:26:05.040 had a little bit of a dispute, not necessarily in person, but had a dispute about their outlook on

01:26:10.360 the world. Netanyahu's father and his historic excellence, and he was a great scholar, came to

01:26:16.060 the conclusion that basically the whole world hates Jews, there's no real hope, and our only 0.66

01:26:20.940 hope is to live in an isolated type way as much as we possibly can in the land of Israel. I don't

01:26:25.500 agree with that. I believe that the Jews' ultimate destiny is in the land of Israel, but not as a 0.98

01:26:30.220 closed-off country, not as an isolated people, but as a people that is fulfilling their religious

01:26:36.020 obligation to be a light among the nations, to interact with other nations because there are

01:26:40.440 many good people, more than just good people. There's a lot of smarts out there. Read Aristotle.

01:26:46.740 He's on the same page as many of the early rabbis and Christian philosophers. He's not a Christian 1.00

01:26:52.220 or a Jew. Is the world a better place because of Aristotle? Yeah, darn right. And Jews who 1.00

01:27:00.200 are smart enough to read his teachings along with our own teachings, and Christians who are smart

01:27:04.620 enough to read his teachings along with the church fathers are the better for it. That's just one

01:27:08.880 example, my friends. And there are completely godless people in the world who are also doing

01:27:14.520 great things that we need to know about. I don't believe in bunker mentality. I don't believe in

01:27:21.140 bomb shelter mentality, because if that's the case, I'll build the bomb shelter and I'll give up.

01:27:26.280 And I'm just not going to play that game. I'm not going to do that. All right, when we come back,

01:27:30.200 We're going to hear from someone who's on the ground in the nation of Guinea.

01:27:33.620 That's West Africa, not New Guinea.

01:27:35.140 Guinea is going to tell us about what's going on with some Americans who are in some big trouble.

01:27:39.540 I want you to hear their plight.

01:27:40.580 We'll be right back.

01:27:41.920 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:27:48.020 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:27:54.080 Hey, I'm Jake Novak in for Anthony Cumia doing a marathon night because it's Easter Sunday. 0.92

01:27:59.040 And I'm sorry, if you're a Jewish person, you're not a Christian, I really believe, and you work at an organization that has Christian people, I really think it's important to work on Christmas, to work on Easter. 0.88

01:28:12.280 I mean, come on. 0.61

01:28:13.640 They're doing it for you on Rosh Hashanah and Kippur and on the high parts of the more strict days of Passover. 0.53

01:28:20.860 This is what we call the intermediate days of this holiday. 0.82

01:28:23.180 So you're a Jewish person, even if you're the most religious Jewish person in the world, you can work today.

01:28:28.020 So, you know, come on. 0.65

01:28:29.380 You've got to do that.

01:28:30.020 So I'm happy to give Anthony a day off on this holiest day.

01:28:33.920 And Easter is the holiest day in the Christian calendar, more holy than Christmas.

01:28:37.680 And I know that there are some more specific reasons for that, but to me it's just logical.

01:28:42.560 Christmas, you know, you're celebrating the birth of someone, and someone looking on the

01:28:46.860 outside could say, okay, I've seen a lot of births.

01:28:48.920 You don't necessarily know that the people there believe it's God who was being born

01:28:52.220 or the Son of God being born.

01:28:54.240 That, on an outside basis, can be written off.

01:28:57.380 Someone rising from the dead, if that's what you believe, that's a big one.

01:29:01.940 You can understand why that's a holier day, not to try to make it too trivial.

01:29:06.100 So that's how that works.

01:29:09.080 Folks, I want to talk about, again, don't forget, we are in the midst of a miraculous day

01:29:16.440 in that we had a crew member of a downed F-15 jet rescued today.

01:29:21.600 And to me, that is the miracle of the day.

01:29:24.100 Gail in Pennsylvania, you want to talk about that too.

01:29:25.960 Gail, what do you got to say?

01:29:27.380 Yes, I was very impressed with President Trump's character. You know, the TDS crowd is always insulting him. But really think about Hillary and Obama leaving our people in Benghazi. And then she said, oh, what difference does it make?

01:29:43.580 And there's a list of things. Bill Clinton left our boys in Somalia, Obama, Libya, Biden, Afghanistan. And they were even going to leave astronauts recently in outer space.

01:29:58.600 hello yeah yeah i'm sorry we're we're we're doing a lot of technical stuff behind it but

01:30:07.280 you know it is amazing it is amazing how all it took was someone to just have the common sense

01:30:12.600 to speak up on behalf of americans you know gail earlier in the program i talked about how isn't it

01:30:19.260 isn't it serendipitous isn't it fitting that this event happened in iran what may be the most

01:30:26.120 incredibly courageous and intricate rescue of an american soldier american airman in this case

01:30:33.620 behind enemy lines isn't it fitting that it happened in iran because before our hostages

01:30:39.920 were taken in iran in 1979 and held for 444 days the world really respected the unwritten rule

01:30:47.660 that if you mess with an american an american civilian or an american soldier anywhere around

01:30:52.680 the world, you were going to pay for it big time. And I don't think that until this war started six

01:30:57.980 weeks ago, Gail, that Iran ever paid for that and ever paid for a lot of other things they'd done 0.62

01:31:02.680 to us. Not for real. I really don't. Gail, what do you think? Right. Right. Exactly. And President

01:31:07.840 Trump went like all out. I mean, big, big time to save one of our boys. And that speaks tremendously

01:31:16.980 to to how he thinks and his character. And really, the Democrats have been the opposite

01:31:24.200 when they've been in power. They really could care less. You know, Benghazi is a real example.

01:31:30.300 Supposedly, the one ambassador there, Stevens, I forget, I think it was Stevens, was a friend,

01:31:37.300 a supposed friend of Hillary. And she didn't care. She told them to stand. Our people stand 0.99

01:31:42.740 down, don't rescue them. You know, and President Trump is the opposite. He's sending in multiple

01:31:48.260 helicopters, which then the Democrat media complains about. Yeah. Oh, he's spending money

01:31:54.120 losing losing, you know, a couple of helicopters. And yeah, they were expensive. But hey,

01:32:00.740 Biden gave away our best, you know, Air Force base in the whole world next to our major enemy.

01:32:07.380 But, you know, the I think it's the Bagram.

01:32:11.240 Yeah. You know what? I have some personal experience with people like Hillary Clinton ordering people to stand down on rescue missions.

01:32:19.680 Long personal history. And I got to tell you, it's it's just it's infuriating.

01:32:25.180 And, you know, we have people who do dangerous work for us.

01:32:29.640 You know, the term leave no man behind has been something that we haven't always lived up to in this country.

01:32:35.520 We just haven't.

01:32:36.260 You know, for people who want to criticize America, it's not like I won't criticize America,

01:32:39.900 but let's criticize it for what it's really done, not what you imagined it's done.

01:32:44.580 And we cannot continue to ask people to serve this country if we don't do things like this.

01:32:50.300 You know, how many more people in the future will now sign up to serve this country with

01:32:54.600 honor because of what happened today, as opposed to leaving this guy behind?

01:32:58.780 Do you have any idea?

01:33:00.400 Yeah.

01:33:00.840 And that's so important, Gail.

01:33:02.160 And I thank you for the call.

01:33:03.220 You know, hey, we're in so many, so many entanglements around the world.

01:33:10.760 And I know a lot of people think, well, that must mean that we're just too intrusive.

01:33:14.260 Well, you know, in some cases, it is an intrusion.

01:33:16.500 In some cases, it's overstepping.

01:33:19.340 I am still in favor, as I have been for over a decade, of closing a lot of our military bases around the world that make no sense whatsoever.

01:33:25.660 And they are a huge part of the military budget.

01:33:27.940 They're like cities.

01:33:28.840 They're expensive.

01:33:30.180 But there's a lot of places in the world that we just have to be because our enemies are looking to kill us and our interests in those areas that have nothing to do with military or colonialism or hegemony. 0.52

01:33:41.260 I know there's a lot of people who went to college and they learned that word hegemony, H-E-G-E-M-O-N-Y.

01:33:45.540 Whenever I hear someone saying that, that's because they're probably someone who just read that in an undergraduate course and they remembered that.

01:33:51.180 It's a fancy way of not talking about being an imperial power but sort of having too much influence.

01:33:56.780 It's a weak word and I don't like it.

01:34:00.040 But sure, there's some examples of that.

01:34:02.160 But look, folks, stop.

01:34:04.120 Just stop. 0.71

01:34:05.140 We have people in this world that want to kill us.

01:34:07.080 And maybe you don't want to wake up every morning understanding that.

01:34:09.780 But first of all, as I said earlier, I'm still mostly optimistic.

01:34:12.660 There's a lot of good people too.

01:34:14.600 But that doesn't mean we can ignore folks who are willing to die rather than live in peace with us.

01:34:21.880 And I know it's easy for us to blame ourselves sometimes for some people.

01:34:26.000 By the way, that's an element of what we call Stockholm Syndrome. A lot of you know about the first part of Stockholm Syndrome, that part that if Stockholm Syndrome is a hypothetical situation where hostages are taken and psychiatrists and psychologists have found that some hostages will start to identify with and maybe even fall in love with the hostage takers.

01:34:45.840 It's a mental illness. It's a mental deficiency. It's an abnormal psychological thing that happens, but it's not that uncommon.

01:34:53.780 But there's a second part of Stockholm Syndrome that not enough people talk about,

01:34:56.700 which is the hostages start to turn on each other.

01:34:59.760 They start to blame each other for the hostage-taking.

01:35:02.960 And that's what we see in America all the time.

01:35:04.920 Something bad happens to us, and millions of Americans say,

01:35:07.740 it must be our fault.

01:35:08.640 It was another American who did this, as opposed to pointing the finger at the real enemy. 0.69

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01:36:36.720 As you know, the big story today, the successful extraction rescue bravery on steroids in Iran.

01:36:45.320 tremendous effort by U.S. forces on the ground and in the air to get that weapons officer from

01:36:51.200 that F-15 that was shot down. 36 hours, he was on his own, surviving in many different ways.

01:36:58.840 And so he's a hero. The people who rescued him are heroes and then on down the line. But there

01:37:04.180 are still Americans in harm's way and in peril and basically imprisoned right now. And I want

01:37:09.440 to talk to someone who knows a lot about that. He's a private jet pilot. His name is Brad Schlenker,

01:37:14.480 And he is now in the nation of Guinea, which is in Western Africa, not to be confused with New Guinea.

01:37:20.580 Brad, can you can you tell our listeners who have no idea about any of this what's going on right now and maybe what they could do about it?

01:37:30.680 Yeah, good evening. I'll do my best.

01:37:34.780 We were contracted by a wealthy Brazilian family to fly a Gulfstream aircraft.

01:37:44.020 And so we positioned to Suriname.

01:37:48.420 It's also a country that probably most people don't even know where it is.

01:37:53.240 But it's north of Brazil and kind of south west of or southeast of Venezuela.

01:38:03.420 Anyway, we flew them from Suriname to Guinea.

01:38:08.720 And honestly, I didn't even know Guinea was a country until we picked up the assignment.

01:38:17.540 The owner wanted to fly to Dubai.

01:38:21.400 Okay.

01:38:21.900 And I said, that's not possible.

01:38:24.060 It's about 15-plus hours.

01:38:26.960 This aircraft doesn't have that range. 0.99

01:38:29.020 So pick a spot somewhere on, you know, western Africa.

01:38:34.760 And, you know, we'll stop there, spend the night, get fuel.

01:38:38.460 And so he picked Guinea.

01:38:42.220 They made the flight plan and sent it to me the night before.

01:38:47.780 And the next day, we flew them to Guinea.

01:38:53.500 And we arrived just before midnight, patsied over to the ramp, opened the door.

01:38:59.220 And we were kindly greeted by a very hostile army.

01:39:04.760 pointing guns at us. There were 15 or 18 guys literally, you know, pointing their guns,

01:39:12.980 the machine guns, yelling at us and in French. So this was, this was quite a shock.

01:39:22.960 Get down, get down, you know, and we were, we were basically forced to sit on the pavement

01:39:28.780 while the family came out, the little children, five and seven years old were crying and

01:39:34.740 And, yeah, it was quite an event, and this turned into a nightmare.

01:39:45.060 I think they were just very, very confident, you know, that we had drugs on the plane

01:39:50.640 because that's a common practice, and, frankly, you know, a lot of Gulf Streams are used for that.

01:39:56.460 They carry a lot of weight.

01:39:57.880 They go fast.

01:39:58.620 They go far.

01:39:59.200 And as a matter of fact, there's a Gulfstream on the ramp over here as we speak that was used for that purpose.

01:40:07.060 But at any rate, so this just turned into a quagmire.

01:40:11.820 They took us to the security area.

01:40:16.480 They proceeded to interrogate us for, I don't know, 12 hours, one guy at a time.

01:40:24.860 And, you know, the owner, myself, and then the first officer.

01:40:30.100 And this just drug on and on.

01:40:34.100 We were taken then finally to the police station.

01:40:37.920 And long story short, we were kept at the police station for eight days.

01:40:44.160 Couldn't leave.

01:40:46.160 They allowed us to basically sleep in one of the offices instead of putting us in the prison cell downstairs.

01:40:52.600 how you know how nice of them right and and how is it that you're you're free to talk to me now

01:40:59.100 how is how is that um so we we got out of well so i'll just kind of fast forward after uh the

01:41:07.660 the jail term we went before this court if you want to call it that and he said oh you're going

01:41:13.900 to prison for you know until investigations are complete basically okay and we literally spent

01:41:20.540 two and a half months in a guinea prison and through various means um we can talk about that

01:41:28.660 later i guess but uh we got out uh for house arrest and we are currently under house arrest

01:41:36.420 staying at a hotel we cannot leave the country until this court is finished milking the system

01:41:43.520 and that's essentially what's what's happening here we're all right yeah so you're by the way

01:41:46.940 Everyone, for those of you just joining us, you're listening to Brad Schlenker.

01:41:50.560 He's a private jet pilot, American citizen.

01:41:52.600 And there are other American citizens who are now basically detained under house arrest in the nation of Guinea, which is in West Africa.

01:42:00.920 And this is this is basically almost like a kidnapping is what you're describing.

01:42:06.700 It cannot be described, you know, realistically in any other sense.

01:42:10.320 There was there was nothing on the airplane.

01:42:13.260 They searched it three times that night. And throughout the next eight nights at the prison, I was drug out to the airplane, taken out to the airplane, opened it up, started the APU so that they could search it again and again two more times.

01:42:29.140 A couple of times they used, you know, drug smelling dogs. Nothing was there. And they were so disappointed.

01:42:34.760 One guy literally said on the way back to the jail, he was talking to the guy in the front seat and said, I'm disappointed we didn't find anything.

01:42:44.060 He literally said that.

01:42:45.800 So now, obviously, this is a matter.

01:42:48.820 By the way, for full disclosure, I took the Foreign Service exam twice.

01:42:52.200 I passed it twice, but I never got an appointment.

01:42:54.620 This sounds like this sounds like the job for the State Department.

01:42:57.700 What's going on with that, Brad?

01:42:58.860 It certainly does.

01:42:59.900 Thank you.

01:43:00.660 Yes, this is a massive disappointment.

01:43:02.780 um we have a a team that my family hired for a lot of money um and and this should not have

01:43:12.140 have happened there was there was no reason in the world that my family should have to shell out

01:43:17.680 i don't even i don't even i should say the amount okay but uh let's just say it's multiple thousands

01:43:24.160 of dollars and uh when when the state department has literally turned a blind eye um our team has

01:43:32.160 reached out to a contact who has actually contacted Rubio's office. And they say, well,

01:43:38.600 this airplane has a checkered history. It has a, you know, a sketchy history. And it turns out the

01:43:45.440 plane is stolen. They discovered that recently. And it turns out that the owner, a Brazilian guy,

01:43:52.320 he might also be involved. That's what they're speculating in trafficking. I don't know that. 0.72

01:43:59.440 This is only the second time that I've done a trip for this guy.

01:44:03.440 But whatever the case is, I shouldn't just be labeled as guilty by association.

01:44:10.060 That is extremely lame.

01:44:12.360 And this is unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable.

01:44:15.820 They've done nothing for us.

01:44:18.560 One call from somebody at the State Department could have launched us out of here.

01:44:23.060 And I've got people on the inside.

01:44:26.280 I made a friend with a prisoner.

01:44:28.320 He's got connections with people in the military and the judicial system.

01:44:35.300 And word has come back to him and said, if your own State Department had called us, they would have been out of here.

01:44:42.580 But they didn't.

01:44:44.920 So basically, so now what now you don't have to give us your home address.

01:44:49.680 Don't please don't do that.

01:44:50.540 But what what state are you from and what state are the other Americans who are detained there from?

01:44:55.040 Is this a case of maybe calling the senator or your congressman or something like that?

01:44:58.740 Could that be done?

01:45:00.240 We've gone around and around with that.

01:45:01.840 We've contacted senators, congressmen, and they elevate it to the State Department, and that's where it gets stopped.

01:45:08.860 Interesting.

01:45:09.720 Yeah.

01:45:10.240 Well, this is an interesting situation.

01:45:12.100 I think that especially the people who are listening to this, look, Americans, there's an open season on Americans.

01:45:20.800 I think that what – in my non-expert opinion on this, it sounds like, first of all, they were hoping to seize drugs and get a big trophy for themselves.

01:45:29.560 They were hoping to do something to Americans as well.

01:45:33.860 And from what I understand, Guinea is a country that could be a heck of an ally to the United States in our foreign policy.

01:45:41.500 So maybe this is something where we could make your – maybe – I mean, I hate that you're going through this, but maybe this is – and again, we're talking to Brad Schlenker.

01:45:48.580 He is a private jet pilot, currently detained.

01:45:51.740 He's under basically house arrest, but miraculously able to call us, which is great that we're able to get your story out there.

01:45:58.700 Brad, what would you ask some of our listeners to do here beyond just knowing about this story?

01:46:03.380 Is there anything that we can do to elevate your situation or improve it?

01:46:09.880 Yes.

01:46:10.280 Let me throw one other element out there that has come to my attention in the recent week.

01:46:18.580 This country is the most rich country in terms of bauxite reserves.

01:46:25.560 So they have rare earths.

01:46:26.840 They have rare earths.

01:46:28.120 Gallium.

01:46:28.840 Wow, okay.

01:46:29.540 Gallium is the newest mineral that the military is after, right?

01:46:33.980 They're using it in a lot of the newest technology.

01:46:37.920 They got a lot of that here.

01:46:39.680 So there's an article out.

01:46:41.380 It's on African News that said Trump is courting President Dombouye,

01:46:46.460 and Dombouye is scheduled to come to America and visit him in the next two to three weeks.

01:46:54.200 I think that this is deplorable.

01:46:56.580 This should never happen.

01:46:58.200 Trump or Rubio, Marco Rubio could pick up the phone literally and say,

01:47:02.100 it ain't happening unless our two guys are home.

01:47:06.180 It's simple as that.

01:47:07.080 Okay.

01:47:08.000 This is despicable.

01:47:10.580 Yeah.

01:47:10.720 We're like pawns.

01:47:11.700 Yeah.

01:47:12.400 I'm really sorry that this has happened to you.

01:47:14.440 The guys that I voted for are treating me like this.

01:47:15.940 Yeah.

01:47:16.180 i'm really sorry that this has happened to you um no excuse for it and hopefully this can get

01:47:22.080 resolved um brad thank you for sharing your story i'm going to keep in touch with you here

01:47:27.400 and we're going to make sure people find out more about it but basically the moral the summary of

01:47:32.280 the story is that we have several americans detained for no reason in the nation of guinea

01:47:37.220 right now and a very small effort on behalf of our uh state department could really fix this

01:47:42.320 two americans yeah just two americans two pilots the other the others are brazilians right i don't

01:47:47.600 know their status but whatever right uh behind hey look at the two guys that were shot down

01:47:55.300 they expended no you know they expended every resource and they got them out right right

01:48:01.080 behind enemy lines right you know i i'm here and i'm divulging this information

01:48:06.200 and i'm i'm fearing for our team's safety and my safety at this point now now that this is out

01:48:12.400 We're going to ruffle some feathers.

01:48:14.900 You know, you listen to live or taped radio,

01:48:17.840 and how many times have you actually heard live from an American being detained in a foreign country?

01:48:23.560 This is an amazing, amazing event.

01:48:26.000 I'm sorry that this is happening to you,

01:48:27.620 and I hope that hopefully people listening to this nationwide, this is a nationwide broadcast,

01:48:32.280 the fact that your story's gotten out here and they've actually heard your voice

01:48:35.300 and heard the desperation and reason and common sense in your voice that we're all about here,

01:48:39.840 hopefully this will get resolved.

01:48:41.340 Brad, keep in touch with me. I've got your number. And thank you for telling us this story. Thank you so much.

01:48:47.560 All right. Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you.

01:48:49.740 All right. That was Brad Schlenker. He's an American citizen, a private jet pilot.

01:48:54.400 He and his co-pilot detained in Guinea right now for, again, I believe his story, not only because of Brad telling it to us now, but we have some friends in common.

01:49:05.040 Let me just put it that way. Don't want to get their names out there because they're putting themselves in harm's way to try to get him out.

01:49:09.600 But those friends in common, lifelong friends of mine, at least one of them, telling me about his story, and he's someone who tries to help Americans whenever they get in trouble abroad.

01:49:19.460 So that's really, really important.

01:49:21.240 Wanted to get that story out there. 0.85

01:49:23.300 Hey, folks, the clock is ticking on Iran. 1.00

01:49:27.300 President Trump giving them now until Tuesday to open, in his own words, the effin—and I'm saying that nicely. 0.98

01:49:33.720 He didn't say it as nicely.

01:49:35.200 The effin Strait of Hormuz.

01:49:38.020 Because he's sick of this.

01:49:39.600 And I think the whole world is. And let's stop blaming the victims.

01:49:43.280 Let's stop blaming the United States and Trump for Iran's activities. 0.61

01:49:46.060 They've been doing this for years, killing their fellow Muslims, shooting missiles at Israel, starting terrorism groups all over the world. 0.76

01:49:54.660 Please don't be one of those naive folks who watches MS Now and thinks, well, you know, they were nice people. 0.52

01:50:00.040 We started it. I mean, really, can you can I just don't.

01:50:04.000 It's so sad. You know, this reminds me of, you know, how like most people grow up with a sibling

01:50:09.040 and you've got a love-hate relationship with the siblings.

01:50:11.480 Sometimes you might even think you hate them.

01:50:13.780 But then when you're on the schoolyard together

01:50:15.320 and a couple of bullies get together

01:50:16.620 and start beating up your sister or brother,

01:50:19.040 you stand up for them.

01:50:21.180 Well, there are some people who don't,

01:50:23.700 who even join in with the bullies

01:50:25.260 and beat up on the sibling.

01:50:26.620 You know what we call that person? 0.97

01:50:27.980 We call that person a psychopath. 1.00

01:50:29.560 Don't be a psychopath. 1.00

01:50:31.060 The bullies on the schoolyard, 1.00

01:50:32.840 the Iranian terrorist regime, 1.00

01:50:34.360 which has been the worst regime in the world 0.91

01:50:36.980 for almost 50 years,

01:50:38.700 is beating up on other Americans

01:50:42.840 and beating up on other decent people in the world.

01:50:46.240 And you're going to join in the beating?

01:50:48.720 Please stop.

01:50:50.200 Please stop.

01:50:51.100 Take a moment and think about what you're doing

01:50:52.660 because it isn't good.

01:50:54.580 I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia.

01:50:56.340 We've got a lot more to go for the rest of this hour.

01:50:58.460 It's been a great three,

01:51:00.500 almost three and a half hours so far.

01:51:02.180 We'll be right back.

01:51:03.580 It's the Anthony Cumia Show

01:51:05.640 on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:51:09.700 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:51:16.200 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia.

01:51:18.980 It has been a wild, fast, almost three and a half hours so far.

01:51:24.280 I actually started an hour before that on some of the stations that you're listening to this on.

01:51:28.040 So I'm enjoying all of this right now.

01:51:30.360 I hope Anthony is having a great Easter.

01:51:32.520 Thanks for the opportunity. 0.78

01:51:34.580 I think it's incumbent upon people who are not Christians to work on Christian holidays.

01:51:39.940 I think a lot of us do, so that we can get the same in return for our Jewish holidays, which are numerous.

01:51:46.920 And our Jewish holidays are like a poorly baked chocolate chip cookie.

01:51:50.520 All the chocolate chips are at each end of the cookie.

01:51:53.160 They are not spread out properly.

01:51:54.980 We have in the fall all these high holidays, then we have in the spring, things like Passover, and almost nothing in between.

01:52:01.640 It's annoying.

01:52:02.500 We don't spread it out properly.

01:52:03.980 Anyway, that's another complaint.

01:52:05.580 But Anthony and everyone else celebrating Easter today.

01:52:08.380 Hope you have a joyous and meaningful Easter.

01:52:11.660 It's a heck of a holiday celebrating the resurrection.

01:52:15.740 It's, you know, again, it's a religious belief.

01:52:19.660 It cannot be proven scientifically.

01:52:21.120 Stop going, stop yelling at me about that.

01:52:24.120 It's certainly an interesting event to center a holiday around and certainly doesn't lack for drama.

01:52:30.740 And many people calling today's rescue of the American co-pilot the weapons officer or a WIZO, as my friend Veronica, who's an Air Force veteran, reminds me.

01:52:40.600 That's what they're called, the weapons officer on an F-15, and I guess some other jets it's called a WIZO.

01:52:46.340 You learn something new every day.

01:52:48.660 Anyway, safely rescued, an incredible effort by U.S. Special Forces on the ground, in the air, all that kind of stuff.

01:52:58.200 It's the stuff of movies.

01:52:59.700 It's the stuff of legend.

01:53:01.700 Just go with the people.

01:53:02.740 Don't be the one guy in the room who wants to say,

01:53:04.600 well, I don't like this and I don't like that.

01:53:06.940 I mean, if you want to complain about something,

01:53:09.040 there were two American jets, planes that had to be destroyed on the ground

01:53:12.760 because the makeshift airstrip that was made for them

01:53:16.820 in the hopes of using them fully through all aspects of this rescue

01:53:20.440 started to sink into the sand.

01:53:22.960 For those of you who know about the creation of makeshift airstrips,

01:53:26.700 which are made for military reasons, for expediency, a lot of them fail.

01:53:31.440 People died in the Iraq War because of them.

01:53:34.000 If you don't have enough runway, you don't take off properly, 0.64

01:53:36.540 and bad things happen, and you certainly don't land properly. 1.00

01:53:39.580 So those had to be destroyed so they wouldn't fall into Iranian hands, 0.93

01:53:42.800 so it doesn't come without financial cost. 0.79

01:53:46.200 But it looks like this was done without casualties, any serious casualties.

01:53:49.940 We'll find out.

01:53:50.940 I don't know that for sure, but I'm certainly starting to look that way.

01:53:55.820 And just, folks, celebrate the human story here.

01:53:58.740 An American has been saved.

01:54:00.840 A tremendous danger and disaster has been avoided. 0.65

01:54:03.840 Had the Iranians captured him and used him as a hostage and tortured him? 0.99

01:54:07.440 You know, come on. 1.00

01:54:08.600 Can't you just be happy about that?

01:54:10.040 I hope you can.

01:54:11.260 I think most people can.

01:54:14.000 It's also been a big day in sports.

01:54:15.700 We had the Women's National Championship in basketball decided today, and it wasn't even close.

01:54:21.560 UCLA beating South Carolina by a lot.

01:54:25.000 So UCLA, which one, for those of you who are 60 and older,

01:54:29.240 you know about UCLA dominating college basketball.

01:54:31.880 They dominated it in the 60s through the early to mid-70s.

01:54:35.740 Their men's team has won a number of national championships.

01:54:38.540 The women's team has never won a national championship.

01:54:40.720 I was surprised to see that.

01:54:42.640 They beat South Carolina, a perennial power, in the last several years.

01:54:47.660 Coach Dawn Staley, who is a very animated figure,

01:54:50.580 a polarizing figure in sports.

01:54:53.380 She's not a winner today.

01:54:54.720 I think this is the second year in a row where they've lost in the championship game,

01:54:57.220 but she has nothing to be ashamed of getting to the championship game.

01:55:02.300 So that's happening.

01:55:03.420 And, of course, we are a day away from the big men's national championship,

01:55:07.180 two big college basketball programs.

01:55:09.340 Michigan, and I know you're out there, you Michigan alumni.

01:55:12.180 There are Michigan alumni everywhere you go who are crazy about Michigan sports.

01:55:16.100 And, hey, you know, you've got a good college with a good college football team

01:55:19.460 and a good college basketball team.

01:55:20.680 Why not?

01:55:21.760 You're in the final against UConn,

01:55:24.420 and UConn, which is looking to win

01:55:25.920 its third national title in four years.

01:55:28.980 That's massive dominance.

01:55:30.540 That's approaching UCLA in the late 60s

01:55:33.080 kind of dominance, folks.

01:55:35.120 And that's going to be a great game, I think,

01:55:36.780 because UConn has amazing defense

01:55:38.380 and Michigan has amazing offense.

01:55:40.660 So I'm looking forward to that game in a lot of ways.

01:55:44.740 Folks, I think the situation in California

01:55:47.120 is really interesting

01:55:48.040 because Gavin Newsom, as you know, is being limited by term limits.

01:55:53.300 He can't run for re-election, and he's running for president,

01:55:57.060 and he's hoping to pull a Ronald Reagan.

01:55:59.080 Ronald Reagan was term limited in California.

01:56:01.700 He had to leave office in January of 1975,

01:56:04.260 leaving him an entire year in change before he could become a candidate in 1976.

01:56:10.060 He ran against an incumbent president.

01:56:12.260 He was never elected, but Gerald Ford was the president,

01:56:14.840 and darn near beat him in the primaries,

01:56:16.560 and darn near got the Republican nomination anyway, only to come back in 1980 to actually

01:56:21.140 get that nomination and win the presidency. The rest is more accessible history, I should say.

01:56:25.660 Everything is history. When they say the rest is history, it's kind of an oxymoron. Everything is

01:56:29.980 history, but the rest is more known history, I should say. Gavin Newsom's trying to do that.

01:56:36.100 He's going to try to get the Democrat nomination. He's doing a lot of stuff, including going on the

01:56:41.340 air these days and talking about his ex-wife, his first wife, Kimberly Guilfoy, who you might

01:56:46.080 remember, used to be a staple on Fox News. I just want to ask you all this question, and maybe we

01:56:51.720 can take a call about it when we come back from the break. He went on either a podcast or a radio

01:56:57.300 show or something earlier this week, a couple days ago, I should say, and said that his first

01:57:02.120 marriage started to break up because Kimberly Guilfoyle, his first wife, started to work for

01:57:06.280 Fox News. There's only one problem with that, folks. Kimberly Guilfoyle didn't start working

01:57:13.120 for Fox News until two years after they were divorced. What the heck is Gavin Newsom trying

01:57:19.440 to pull? Is he trying to pull the I'm a victim of right wing America and Fox News America card?

01:57:25.920 Why would he do that? Doesn't he not? Does he not know that everyone's going to fact check him on

01:57:30.400 that? Or is his entire campaign, his entire political persona based on the ignorance of

01:57:36.560 people who just hate Trump, just hate Fox News, just hate Trump voters and just hate Fox News 0.51

01:57:42.040 viewers, and they don't care what he says. I'm inclined to believe the latter. And if you have 0.62

01:57:46.260 a different opinion or you want to expand on that, please do so. I'm Jake Novak filling in

01:57:51.220 for Anthony Cumia. We got one half hour left to go this evening on this Easter night. Stay with us.

01:57:56.400 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:58:02.700 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

01:58:07.500 i'm jake novak filling in for anthony cumia happy easter everyone for those of you

01:58:13.520 celebrating it getting meaning from it uh wonderful holiday here in america and it looks like it's

01:58:20.200 been at least here in america a relatively peaceful holiday with the exception of some parts of the

01:58:25.420 city of chicago apparently a lot of murders again this weekend on the south side unfortunately

01:58:29.160 that's nothing new but nothing that i take for granted or just whistle past that graveyard it's

01:58:34.600 pretty sad uh jeff in south carolina has been waiting for a long time and jeff wants to talk

01:58:40.600 about the origin of the navy and i get a feeling we're going to hear about the barbary pirates am

01:58:44.840 i right yeah you are jeff you're kind of breaking up can you can you get to a better part of your

01:58:55.500 house where you get better reception let me hear you now can you hear me now yeah you're now go

01:59:01.540 Go ahead. All right. Long-time listener, 787 WABC. I'm a COVID refugee. The Barbary War is Thomas Jefferson in the early 1800s.

01:59:14.980 I just want to talk about the first verse of the Marine Corps hymn, and I say this as a Navy guy, from the shores of Tripoli. 1.00

01:59:25.800 right we've been going against it with the muslims since the early 1800s and they haven't 0.99

01:59:34.860 been nice to us granted we're in a different area of the mediterranean with what we're going on 1.00

01:59:41.580 with right now in iran and that's a different body of water but it's the same religion

01:59:48.500 you have the ottoman empire what are we doing i we're just going back to the history books 0.98

01:59:56.100 yeah you know um again uh it's it's not without problems our relationship with the muslim world

02:00:05.340 but i i'm not completely pessimistic about it it's just we have a lot of work to do

02:00:11.160 it's as simple as that i don't want to be an if and a foe but as a guy that's watching this

02:00:18.480 I want to be nice to everybody, but your culture's kind of not been nice to us, like, going back.

02:00:27.860 Like, why did we have the crusade?

02:00:29.280 I get it.

02:00:29.860 But, you know, for example, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world, and they are really pro-American there and getting there even more.

02:00:38.520 They have a religious leader there who I met in person a couple of years ago at Princeton who is, you know, says all—he more than says all the right things.

02:00:46.920 He walks the walk, too.

02:00:48.480 Um, I just I listen, I'm not I am not being naive. I am not forgetting all of this stuff. I'm just saying, what are our two options? Can we wipe them all out? Good. I don't want them out. But you say Indonesia. That was well, prior to the Muslims getting there. What was the primary religion in that area?

02:01:12.920 Yeah, no, I mean, it wasn't, it was conquered. It was conquered by the Muslims. Yes, absolutely. And forcibly converted. That's true. But that's true of every nation. Islam started, you know, they conquered everybody that they, you know, where they are right now. 1.00

02:01:24.920 All right. So let's be nice. And I just want people to read the history books. Like Muslims' goal is to convert everyone and have you submit to their culture. 1.00

02:01:42.400 I'm a Christian, recovering Catholic. 1.00

02:01:45.680 I'm going to church with my wife in South Carolina.

02:01:49.820 And, you know, Christ is king.

02:01:54.340 We got to keep it that way. 0.99

02:01:56.380 Well, the thing about Christians, though, and thank you for the call, Jeff,

02:01:59.440 is that for the last 500 years or so, Christians have embraced pluralism.

02:02:04.260 They've come to the understanding that you can still believe that Christ is king.

02:02:07.880 You can still believe that Christianity is the correct pathway in life, the correct pathway to heaven, etc., etc., without killing and subjugating everyone else who doesn't agree with you.

02:02:19.500 Jews accepted that about 2,000 years ago, maybe more.

02:02:23.860 Muslims, for the most part, have not, but Indonesia, for one, is one place where they are starting to talk about that very seriously and walking the walk. 0.58

02:02:33.100 And if they can do it in Indonesia, they can do it in other countries. 0.89

02:02:35.820 We just have to make sure that those elements, those Nazi-influenced elements that are still alive and well in so many parts of the Muslim world, especially the Arab Muslim world, are beaten down to a pulp, which is what's going on right now in Iran. 0.83

02:02:53.560 Kenny in Bayside, Queens, you want me to be more realistic? Am I being too Pollyannish? 0.94

02:02:58.160 well you you have an open forum which is good uh to that other caller he's jeff is very concerned

02:03:08.680 and he has every right to be listen uh saudi arabia and china are pouring billions of dollars

02:03:14.720 into america we know and i've been known for years they have these vacations with pregnant women from

02:03:20.860 those countries and other countries come in the u.s have the baby u.s citizen and they fly out 0.70

02:03:26.280 should we send 50 million absentee ballots to communist china i mean should we do that right

02:03:32.080 now right because that's what they're doing so well i by the way i don't believe in absentee 0.71

02:03:36.680 ballots or any mail-in ballots and you know why not because of fraud not because because a mail

02:03:42.020 folks did you all learn in fifth grade i hope you did i really hope you did didn't you all learn in

02:03:47.300 fifth grade that if you don't have a secret ballot if you don't have a secret ballot it's not a

02:03:51.900 legitimate election. And hopefully you learned in subsequent years in school why that's the case.

02:03:58.140 Do you know that after Reconstruction in the South, when you went to vote, usually you voted

02:04:03.320 where you worked, at your workplace, at a factory, a mill, and there was a box for Democrat votes

02:04:09.840 and a box for Republican votes. And you literally had to put your ballot in the box for who you were

02:04:15.600 voting for, and your boss was looking over you. And if you put your ballot in the wrong box,

02:04:20.120 And if it was the South, the wrong box was the Republican box.

02:04:23.480 You lost your job or you got the heck beat out of you.

02:04:27.240 How about let's go fast forward to today.

02:04:30.160 And this is a commercial that I have blocked out as a as a amateur director and screenwriter for the Republicans, for the Save America Act people to put together or for President Trump to put together. 0.95

02:04:43.620 I want to see a commercial where you see a woman sitting at a kitchen table with the ballot and her hand shaking with the pen and her fat, disgusting, wife-beater t-shirt-wearing husband is leaning over her and making sure she fills out the boxes the way he wants her to. 0.86

02:05:00.980 Because a mail-in ballot is not a secret ballot. 0.77

02:05:02.900 Now, you may say, oh, Jake, what about those soldiers and our people who are overseas?

02:05:08.640 They have to do an absentee ballot by vote.

02:05:10.800 You're going to take away their rights.

02:05:11.900 Have you ever heard of a secure laptop?

02:05:15.780 Can't our troops in the foreign bases go to the PX and line up around a couple and get in line and secretly vote on a secure laptop just for our troops, not for anyone else?

02:05:27.600 That's fine with me.

02:05:29.720 That would be fine with me.

02:05:30.980 But a mail-in ballot is not a secret ballot.

02:05:34.280 End of story.

02:05:35.000 I don't care if there's fraud or not.

02:05:37.620 We should never have mail-in ballots.

02:05:40.880 Anywhere.

02:05:41.900 It's not a secret ballot. It's illegitimate.

02:05:44.320 I don't know who cast it. I don't know who was forced to cast it.

02:05:48.020 I don't know what situations they were in.

02:05:51.280 Period. End of story.

02:05:55.400 I'm still okay with early voting.

02:05:57.740 I'm still okay with other ways to vote, some other ways.

02:06:01.860 But this is a huge problem with our election integrity.

02:06:04.980 And if you ever get into a debate with some Democrat or leftist who says,

02:06:07.800 there's no proof of fraud.

02:06:09.140 There's no proof of fraud because we haven't been looking for it.

02:06:11.900 in any organized way in our government.

02:06:15.280 It just happens haphazard.

02:06:16.880 We find out one.

02:06:17.600 And by the way, there are some Republicans who engage in voter fraud, by the way, also.

02:06:21.120 This is a common thing.

02:06:23.220 Winning an election is an object of value.

02:06:26.820 Can we agree that winning an election is something valuable?

02:06:29.840 In the history of humankind, people have always tried to steal things of value.

02:06:35.260 The idea that people aren't trying to steal an election because you don't have proof of it

02:06:38.820 is like saying, well, I can't really improve the 2 plus 2 equals 4.

02:06:44.200 Please, please don't be naive.

02:06:46.900 And I'm not being naive.

02:06:48.980 Mail-in ballots, not legitimate.

02:06:51.640 You don't have, it's not a secret ballot.

02:06:54.620 And if you want to help me produce this commercial with the wife-beater-wearing husband,

02:06:58.720 fat dude, pressuring his wife to vote the way he wants her to on a mail-in ballot, please.

02:07:05.080 We need actors, I need sets, I need cameras.

02:07:08.820 and I will produce it for, you know, I'm not going to ask for any money for it,

02:07:12.060 but we need this pretty bad, pretty badly.

02:07:16.640 Hey, Dave in Pittsburgh, you know, I love Pittsburgh.

02:07:19.960 I have a very close member of my family living there right now,

02:07:22.360 and when I go to visit her, I'm loving your town.

02:07:25.760 I'm absolutely loving it.

02:07:27.540 But you want to talk about, oh, my God, you want to talk about $20 per gallon gas?

02:07:31.680 Dave, please say it as so.

02:07:32.920 Okay, I'll start off there. 0.89

02:07:34.460 But first, can I congratulate the UCLA woman on beating those dominant South Carolina girls who have won three out of the last four NCAA championships? 1.00

02:07:45.180 That's right. 1.00

02:07:45.660 A big win.

02:07:46.380 And it wasn't even close.

02:07:47.460 Michigan beat UConn.

02:07:48.500 Oh, you want Michigan to beat UConn.

02:07:49.740 Okay.

02:07:50.480 I think it's going to be a great game.

02:07:51.940 Do you think it's going to be a great game?

02:07:53.060 They've got a big M on the back of their shirts.

02:07:54.560 Not their names.

02:07:55.700 They're not selfish.

02:07:56.580 Now, getting back to the $20 gasoline average price in America, you mentioned hours ago that Iran has stockpiled enough oil.

02:08:12.780 You said something like a dollar it's gone up in average price in the last couple of months.

02:08:19.520 They've stockpiled four or five times as much as that.

02:08:24.380 No, that's not what I said. 0.97

02:08:25.760 What I said was the existence of the Iranian Islamist regime has forced everyone in the world to pay at least, at least a dollar more for every barrel of oil that's been sold in the world for 47 years. 0.98

02:08:40.400 For Americans, that's $80 million a day out of our economy because oil is more expensive because we have thugs like Iran threatening everybody else's oil trade in the world. 0.99

02:08:52.600 So, look, I know that we're paying more. What we're paying – and the other thing you might be conflating this way, mixing it up with, is the fact that the average price for a regular gallon of gas since the war started is up $1.13 since the day before the war started. 0.99

02:09:09.460 So those are the statistics that I – I didn't say anything about stockpiles. Go ahead.

02:09:15.020 So you don't think gas could be $20 a gallon by the fall? 0.89

02:09:19.260 Well, if Iran is – if the Iranian regime is around and they've destroyed a massive amount of everyone else's oil reserves – 0.98

02:09:27.320 Which they could do. 0.97

02:09:28.860 They could, but I doubt they're out.

02:09:30.480 Trump tried to do that. He did that. Somebody – the last war over there, they blew up all the – was it Kuwaiti oil refineries?

02:09:41.060 No, that was the first Gulf War, and we had those oil fires there.

02:09:47.440 And gasoline in this country has never gone to a national average of anywhere even near $5 a gallon.

02:09:55.000 Now, there's some people in California who pay more than that because California has massive taxes and other regulations and things like that.

02:10:02.080 But, you know, that's how that goes.

02:10:04.300 Yeah, listen, the price of gasoline could be $100 a gallon if every refinery is destroyed and every oil tanker is destroyed.

02:10:11.580 That's not going to happen. 0.89

02:10:13.000 Iran still has some weapons left.

02:10:15.280 The Israelis said today that Iran still has 1,000 missiles left that they think could reach Israel alone.

02:10:20.760 So there certainly is still some firepower there.

02:10:23.540 But the regime is weaker every single day.

02:10:25.980 They're firing fewer missiles just about every day.

02:10:29.160 And no, I don't think we're going to $20 a gallon of oil, of gasoline.

02:10:33.300 That's a bet I'm willing to make on any day of the week.

02:10:35.380 Speaking of betting, by the way, have you heard about this thing called Polymarket?

02:10:39.680 This is a website where you can bet on things.

02:10:42.560 Not just sports.

02:10:43.200 Not sports. You can bet on news events.

02:10:46.500 And this website got a lot of criticism, I think rightfully so, because up until yesterday, you could go on Polymarket and bet on when you thought that American crewman would be found dead or alive.

02:10:57.680 By the way, the favorite day was Saturday when it did turn out to be the day that we got him and rescued him alive.

02:11:04.420 Well, a lot of people understandably criticized this, found this to be incredibly ghoulish and scary, and forced Polymarket to pull that betting option off of its site.

02:11:14.700 But there's been other problems with this because that's a relatively inaccessible story.

02:11:20.980 It's not like some guy can make that happen differently.

02:11:23.640 But what if Polymarket, for example, says you can bet on the total number of murders in the south side of Chicago this weekend?

02:11:29.800 Is it going to be more than 30, under 10, whatever it's going to be?

02:11:33.020 and someone could literally go and kill five people to win that bet. 0.67

02:11:35.940 I mean, that's what's sick about this. 0.58

02:11:39.020 Look, I'm not a prude, and I'm not a narc.

02:11:42.760 I feel this way about legalized pot as well. 0.76

02:11:44.880 I'm not stupid.

02:11:46.020 People are going to bet. 0.77

02:11:46.960 People are going to gamble.

02:11:47.920 People are going to try drugs.

02:11:49.160 I get that.

02:11:50.800 But in the last few years, the government of many states,

02:11:54.320 and in some cases the federal government, has gone from a narc to a pusher.

02:11:58.540 Can't we just have a happy medium here?

02:12:01.120 Now, for years, I've been sickened by our state and national lotteries.

02:12:05.840 Not because they exist.

02:12:07.280 I understand people want to do the numbers game.

02:12:09.280 For people who are old enough to remember,

02:12:11.100 this is a type of the lottery numbers game type thing is very old in human history.

02:12:16.320 People like to do this.

02:12:17.280 I get it.

02:12:18.000 I get it. 0.58

02:12:19.260 But my tax money is going to advertise the stinking lottery. 0.70

02:12:23.480 Come on.

02:12:24.840 That's not what I want.

02:12:26.440 They're literally trying to get people addicted to a vice.

02:12:29.980 And boy, are they doing that with sports gambling.

02:12:31.940 I understand.

02:12:32.780 People are going to bet on sports.

02:12:34.740 But when bookies and sports were behind a barbershop somewhere in Bayonne, New Jersey,

02:12:39.620 they weren't really able to drum up the capital to try to bribe an NBA player who makes millions

02:12:44.880 of dollars a year to throw a game or throw his personal performance.

02:12:47.280 But now that we have these websites, we have markets of scale.

02:12:51.240 And suddenly somebody putting a bet on one of these websites can make millions of dollars

02:12:54.720 if somebody starts missing foul shots or throwing pitches out of the strike zone,

02:12:59.580 which is exactly what's happening in our major sports right now.

02:13:04.360 Again, I'm not a prude. I'm not saying don't bet.

02:13:06.440 I'm saying stop being a pusher for this.

02:13:11.340 You can't turn on any television show, let alone a sports program,

02:13:14.640 without a million sports betting ads being shoved down your throat.

02:13:18.360 And I don't want my children, now both of my daughters are not interested in this,

02:13:21.460 so I'm happy. But I don't want their friends who are boys or girls who are sports fans

02:13:26.480 to be turned on to an addiction. It is an addiction. It's going to happen in society

02:13:30.740 whether it's pushed on them or not, but this is making it worse. And you know that there

02:13:35.080 are colleges throughout the country that had to put programs together before this March

02:13:39.300 Madness tournament because there were students who were gambling away their meal money and

02:13:43.940 their tuition money on these basketball games. I mean, they got to do something about this.

02:13:48.840 And if that means simply stopping the pushing of it, I'd be fine with that.

02:13:55.220 Again, I'd be more than fine with that. 0.98

02:13:58.680 Hey, Brock on Long Island, I think you're going to tell me about Churchill calling Islam the most retrograde religion. 1.00

02:14:07.840 Is that what you want to talk about?

02:14:10.120 No, although he did feel that way. 0.96

02:14:13.100 Specifically, what he said was, and I quote him, Islam in a man is the moral equivalent of rabies and a dog. 0.63

02:14:26.240 You know, Brock, I you know, I know that Churchill had some that's pretty rough. 0.90

02:14:30.800 Yeah, it's pretty rough. I think it's too far. I think it's too far.

02:14:33.820 Yeah, that's a that's a step too far. I agree with you. But I will say this.

02:14:38.820 in iran i think that's no more evident than in iran they are in a special case they are 0.51

02:14:50.380 maniacs they it's a culture of death and i think that even if we have to experience some pain at

02:14:59.800 the pump etc we've got to support trump's strong stand that president that the president

02:15:08.680 that the president did not have the guts to take yeah you know that's exactly that's exactly my

02:15:14.700 point because we already have memo you know news alert news flash to the rest of america we have

02:15:20.440 already been experiencing pain at the pump for 47 years yeah we had gasoline for many years in this

02:15:28.280 country under a dollar a gallon it was under two dollar a gallon two dollars a gallon in many parts

02:15:33.260 of the country just a few months ago, you were still paying 30, 40 cents more per gallon

02:15:38.860 because Iran exists, simply because the business of oil, you know, a lot of you listening might 0.77

02:15:45.080 really hate the oil industry and hate fossil fuels, but you got to hand it to them.

02:15:49.560 The sheer effort, the sheer process of getting petroleum out of the ground, out of the ocean

02:15:56.700 floor in or through out of there into it into a tanker to a refinery through all that process to

02:16:04.340 finally gets to the gas it ain't easy man and it certainly ain't easy when people are shooting at

02:16:10.000 you while you're doing it and if you don't think that adds to the price of your gasoline all the

02:16:14.780 time whether the united states is at war with one of these countries or not you know nothing

02:16:18.840 it's been we've been paying through the nose for this for a long time brock thanks for the call

02:16:24.440 We're going to be right back.

02:16:25.360 Our final segment coming up on our long, long, wonderful three-hour program

02:16:29.980 we've been having here.

02:16:30.780 I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia.

02:16:32.620 Come right back.

02:16:34.140 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

02:16:40.120 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

02:16:46.400 I'm Jake Novak filling in for Anthony Cumia, our final segment tonight,

02:16:50.080 and I have been really grateful to fill in for Anthony tonight,

02:16:52.860 Give him an opportunity to celebrate Easter with his family.

02:16:55.980 So important that we do that for each other across religions.

02:16:58.840 You know, I have an old joke.

02:17:00.040 I actually wrote this joke, and it used to kill in the comedy clubs here in New York City.

02:17:04.880 Trust me on this.

02:17:06.220 I've always felt like one of the things that's funny about New York is that we all have different religious backgrounds and things like that.

02:17:12.620 And sometimes we don't get along.

02:17:13.880 Sometimes we don't understand.

02:17:14.800 But the one thing that makes everybody in New York really appreciate everyone else's religion is something called alternate side of the street parking.

02:17:26.160 Here in New York City, we have to do something really annoying when the street cleaners come twice a week.

02:17:34.160 You've got to move your car out from your legal parking spot, sometimes a free one, while they do the street cleaning or else you get a ticket or you get towed.

02:17:41.500 And there's literally people, especially in Manhattan, who sit in their cars for 90 minutes.

02:17:46.200 Now, with the Internet now and things like that, you can still get some work done.

02:17:48.860 But for years, there was nothing like that.

02:17:50.620 They just would sit in their cars for 90 minutes so they could go back to their free spot.

02:17:54.300 But you know when those rules are suspended?

02:17:56.240 You know when you don't have to do that?

02:17:57.860 When some other religion or any religion is having a holiday, they'll suspend these rules where you have to move your car.

02:18:05.040 Suddenly, everyone in New York is happy to welcome new religions, new cultures, so they can have more and more days.

02:18:13.180 So this is what we need to get peace in the Middle East. 0.94

02:18:15.960 We should introduce alternate side of the street parking rules to the Middle East,

02:18:20.100 so that suddenly Jews, Christians, and Muslims will start to, and Baha'i will all love each other because of all of our crazy holidays. 0.95

02:18:26.340 All right, if you're a New Yorker, you get that joke.

02:18:27.980 You may not get it.

02:18:28.780 If you're not, I tried to explain it the best I could.

02:18:31.020 That's not how I delivered it on stage, I promise.

02:18:33.320 But anyway, that's how things go.

02:18:36.220 I want to talk to Sandra.

02:18:37.660 She's in New Jersey.

02:18:39.240 Maybe you got that joke.

02:18:40.860 You want to talk about mail-in ballots.

02:18:42.460 What do you got to say, Sandra?

02:18:43.400 Yes.

02:18:43.880 Well, first I want to say you've done a great job tonight.

02:18:46.540 I'm very impressed with you.

02:18:48.560 Yeah, I am.

02:18:50.100 You've been doing this for many hours, and it just gets better and better.

02:18:54.000 Yeah, I'm drinking my Kosher for Passover Coca-Cola.

02:18:56.980 That's what's keeping me going tonight.

02:18:58.880 So go ahead, Sandra.

02:18:59.880 So, okay, about the mail-in ballots.

02:19:01.960 You know that Donald Trump just wrote an executive order, number 14399.

02:19:07.260 He signed it saying cheating is – it's really bad.

02:19:12.100 It's legendary.

02:19:13.100 It's like out of control.

02:19:14.340 So here's what the order is going to be like.

02:19:17.180 He's going to require that the federal – there's going to be a master list, and it's going to have a list of everyone who's supposed to vote on that list.

02:19:26.480 And it's going to be handled by the Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration together.

02:19:33.520 And it's going to prohibit the U.S. Postal Service from sending absentee ballots to those who are not included on these lists.

02:19:42.140 Sounds like a good idea to me.

02:19:44.300 It does. It does, Sandra.

02:19:45.960 And, you know, the thing is, this is going to be challenging the courts, and I'm not even sure the Supreme Court will uphold President Trump's very lawful and common sense executive order on this.

02:19:59.900 I don't know if the Supreme Court will do it.

02:20:01.680 You know, there's a misconception in America that we have a, quote, conservative majority or conservative Supreme Court.

02:20:07.920 No, we have six justices in the court who vote common sense most of the time.

02:20:13.620 there really aren't all aren't all of them are not really conservatives they're just common

02:20:17.940 sense and we have three justices who'd never almost never vote common sense except in some

02:20:23.440 cases um luckily common sense doesn't come into play in a lot of the cases so there's still a lot

02:20:29.880 of eight to one and nine nothing decisions on the court sometimes common sense isn't a factor it's

02:20:34.900 just a oh a small piece of minutia that the court knows and just helps to apply it um the courts

02:20:42.320 are going to block this i don't think that president trump's executive order is going to

02:20:46.820 be in effect in time or in place for these midterm elections which is a shame because they're the only

02:20:53.100 chance that this is going to have to actually become the law is if the supreme court does

02:20:57.760 does uphold it and if they did it would probably be six to three or five to four if we're lucky

02:21:02.940 but i don't think it's going to get there in time hopefully it will but they're gonna they're gonna

02:21:08.520 If President Trump signed an executive order that children should be loved, the Democrats would take that to court, too, to challenge that, let alone something like this, which is an existential threat to them, especially in a number of states where they're using mail-in ballots and crazy rules about mail-in ballots, like accepting them days after the election is over, accepting them without any signature verification, et cetera, et cetera.

02:21:35.580 And like they did in 2020, which I maintain was the truth that many extra ballots were cast. We still had fewer people vote in 2024 than 2020, which makes no sense whatsoever. You're telling me people weren't engaged? Several million Americans who voted in 2020 just decided they didn't care anymore?

02:21:56.680 It's not a logical result.

02:22:00.300 It's not a logical conclusion.

02:22:03.580 So, of course, there was ballot inflation in 2020.

02:22:06.440 And, of course, there's people cheating.

02:22:07.840 How do I know that?

02:22:08.540 Because I understand human nature.

02:22:11.160 Elections are a thing of value.

02:22:13.140 Winning an election has great value in power.

02:22:16.380 And also, there's a price tag, too.

02:22:18.580 And that changes.

02:22:19.380 But there's a value in winning an election, which means people will try to steal it.

02:22:23.060 But how naive do you have to be in your understanding of human nature not to think that people aren't trying to steal things of value all the time? 0.91

02:22:31.020 It doesn't mean you have to be a jerk about things and put 17 locks on every single thing and punch everybody who comes within your item of value. 0.69

02:22:39.340 It just means you have to secure it in some way and be prepared to do so. 0.93

02:22:43.380 And that's true for your home. It's true for your car. And it should be true for our elections, but it's not.

02:22:48.980 And I don't think that Democrats think that those elections are on the up and up. They know they're not. They know that they're not. And they are using fraud in so many cases. They are encouraging fraud. They are encouraging illegal aliens to vote. They're using things called ballot harvesting, which should never be allowed because that, too, is not a secret ballot.

02:23:08.880 If someone is coming into your neighborhood and helping you fill out a ballot for you and casting it for you, that's not a secret ballot.

02:23:15.680 I learned in fifth grade for all the right reasons that if it isn't a secret ballot, it isn't legitimate.

02:23:21.700 Folks, I've been going for three hours here for Anthony Cumia.

02:23:24.760 I really enjoyed it.

02:23:25.620 I was actually here at 5 a.m. as well doing radio.

02:23:28.680 It has been an amazing evening.

02:23:30.300 I'm glad I was able to take so many of your calls.

02:23:32.380 I'm sorry I didn't get to everyone, but I got to almost everyone.

02:23:34.860 And I want to thank all of you for listening.

02:23:36.600 And again, if you are celebrating Easter or Passover right now, not only do I want to wish you a joyous holiday, but a meaningful one.

02:23:43.980 Make this mean something.

02:23:45.560 I'm Jake Novak.

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The Anthony Cumia Show - April 06, 2026

The Anthony Cumia Show ｜ 04-05-26

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