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00:01:00.080 It's the Anthony Cumia Show. Entertaining and informative. On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:01:08.700 The Anthony Cumia Show. Another Sunday evening. I'm glad you've joined me.

00:01:16.000 And lots going on. Boy, especially if you're in that New York area.

00:01:20.440 You got the big Long Island Railroad strike.

00:01:24.520 And tomorrow, boy, I do not envy you.

00:01:28.840 I do not envy you, people.

00:01:31.140 I made that commute for many, many years during my various radio jobs in New York City out from Long Island.

00:01:40.020 And I will tell you, there is nothing that is good about it.

00:01:45.040 There's no like, oh, that one's a breeze.

00:01:47.300 Oh, I drive myself.

00:01:48.440 It's easy.

00:01:48.880 Oh, I take the train.

00:01:49.860 I take a bus, I carpool.

00:01:52.620 None of it is easy.

00:01:55.060 It is all just terrible.

00:01:57.880 Everyone dreads the commute from Long Island to New York City and then back home again.

00:02:03.000 So with the Long Island Railroad taken out of the mix, it just makes everything else that much worse.

00:02:09.700 They're not talking.

00:02:11.520 That's the last update I got.

00:02:13.600 They don't even have scheduled talks between the union and the MTA.

00:02:21.680 So good luck.

00:02:24.060 And you know they do that on purpose.

00:02:26.280 They start the strike on the weekend, and they give people something to think about.

00:02:31.040 Oh, it's going to be terrible.

00:02:33.000 Oh, it's going to be awful.

00:02:34.600 And then they don't even talk about it because they know that the first day,

00:02:38.820 Monday is just

00:02:41.000 going to be awful and it's going to give them

00:02:43.040 a little extra pull

00:02:44.720 people are going to say

00:02:46.460 pay these guys

00:02:48.720 there aren't many

00:02:50.600 commuters

00:02:52.560 people that work in New York City

00:02:54.720 that care about

00:02:56.940 the business end of it

00:02:58.780 they just want to get their ass to work

00:03:01.300 and then get back home

00:03:02.400 you guys

00:03:04.500 I do not envy you

00:03:06.740 all the best and godspeed as they say i did want to talk about this this was a big story

00:03:17.240 last week and you know i mean the way stories go it could be the huge huge story of the week

00:03:26.820 and then the next week it's kind of just gone people aren't really talking about it anymore

00:03:32.100 It's this Chud the Builder thing.

00:03:35.320 Dalton Etherly is his real name, Dalton.

00:03:39.780 Because just calling him Chud, that seems silly.

00:03:45.120 And this definitely isn't a silly circumstance that everyone's dealing with.

00:03:53.980 I'm definitely not going to get into the is he right or wrong about this.

00:04:00.560 You know, everyone has their own ideas about this guy and what he's been doing.

00:04:06.020 If you don't know, I don't know what rock you've been under,

00:04:08.700 but obviously he's been walking around and dropping N-bombs on black people

00:04:15.040 as he walks through certain cities, towns and whatnot.

00:04:21.440 A lot of racial epithets and racially based insults.

00:04:27.640 And his take is, I'm just trying to show that we don't have freedom of speech

00:04:33.000 and that if you say certain words, you will get your ass handed to you.

00:04:41.600 Some people think that's perfectly fine.

00:04:44.400 Other people don't think you should pay with violence or your life in some circumstances

00:04:52.780 just for uttering a word.

00:04:54.580 So that's pretty much what's been going on.

00:04:57.020 And this guy, Dalton, he carries or carried a gun and bear spray.

00:05:03.540 And whenever anyone would get so offended at what he's saying to the point where they felt they ought to hit him,

00:05:10.820 he would use the bear spray on him.

00:05:12.620 And last week, he felt that somebody started beating on him, actually throwing punches at him.

00:05:21.480 And he pulled out a gun and shot the man that he said was assaulting him.

00:05:27.940 It's all alleged at this point.

00:05:30.300 We really don't have all that much information on this.

00:05:35.240 It's very sparse.

00:05:38.180 I haven't heard any witnesses.

00:05:41.380 I've heard from him.

00:05:42.840 There's an audio recording of Dalton speaking to the cops

00:05:48.440 because he inadvertently shot himself while he was trying to shoot

00:05:55.040 the offended gentleman that was punching him, all alleged.

00:06:00.720 So he talked to the cops, which, yeah, if there's any lawyers listening,

00:06:06.740 you know what I'm going to say.

00:06:08.300 What are you doing?

00:06:10.600 What are you doing?

00:06:11.740 I don't care how right you feel you are in a circumstance, a legal situation.

00:06:19.700 You don't say anything.

00:06:22.060 You do not say a word to anybody.

00:06:26.420 Lawyer.

00:06:27.280 That's what you say, lawyer.

00:06:29.340 I want to speak to my lawyer.

00:06:32.440 Because even if you're saying things that you think are advantageous to a case,

00:06:38.940 that you are definitely going to have in the future,

00:06:42.960 they can turn things around.

00:06:45.380 The prosecution can take anything you say,

00:06:47.800 can and will be used against you in a court of law.

00:06:52.540 That's very important.

00:06:54.560 Not only it can or it might or this, it will.

00:06:58.880 Well, I didn't say anything that doesn't make me look anything but innocent.

00:07:04.340 Oh, really?

00:07:05.700 How about that?

00:07:06.660 because the prosecution has a completely different take on what you said,

00:07:11.000 whether it's your alibi, your excuse for doing what you did,

00:07:15.140 how you did it, why you did it.

00:07:16.960 All this stuff can and will be used against you in a court of law.

00:07:22.400 So keep your trap shut.

00:07:26.740 Also, the self-defense aspect of this whole thing,

00:07:30.220 because this is really what it's all about.

00:07:32.420 uh dalton i believe will try to say this was self-defense in a court and once you do that

00:07:44.700 you're pretty much saying you did it that's the whole thing of a self-defense case yes i shot this

00:07:54.480 guy uh but here are the circumstances and here's why the law uh is on my side and this was self

00:08:04.740 defense uh so if your self-defense case caves in on you you pretty much confessed to uh the the

00:08:14.760 murder or wounding as it was in this case he didn't kill the guy that was attacking him

00:08:22.040 So a self-defense case is tricky.

00:08:28.920 You have to have a number of criteria that come into play.

00:08:35.360 You cannot have been the aggressor.

00:08:40.000 You must have absolutely felt that your life was in imminent danger of being taken.

00:08:48.000 there are other ones too that that are very important to the self-defense

00:08:54.820 to that defense the self-defense defense but um the from what i'm hearing a lot of people

00:09:05.680 are their opinion is that he doesn't have a chance in hell all based on what he was doing

00:09:12.820 not just on that day, not just when it happened,

00:09:17.660 but his record of being a provocateur

00:09:20.940 and one of these guys that walks around trying to piss people off

00:09:24.860 until they take a swing at him or do whatever.

00:09:28.820 He's made a lot of incendiary comments on social media.

00:09:34.640 He has said things to the effect of the only way this ends

00:09:38.280 is with somebody of color being dead on the ground in front of me.

00:09:44.100 So all of these things are going to be taken into consideration,

00:09:48.060 and I'm certain the defense is going to try its best to keep these things out,

00:09:53.940 saying that what he said and what he was doing online and on social media

00:10:00.240 doesn't have any relevance to the circumstance that led to him shooting somebody.

00:10:06.980 it doesn't matter what he said

00:10:09.560 what matters is what transpired

00:10:12.140 between these two men

00:10:13.580 on that day

00:10:15.600 at that moment

00:10:16.540 and

00:10:18.400 saying that somebody's

00:10:21.840 speech

00:10:23.140 what they're saying

00:10:24.840 is a valid

00:10:27.580 reason to resort to

00:10:29.260 physical hands on

00:10:31.320 violence

00:10:31.960 that's a very

00:10:35.440 emotional thing this whole case is very emotionally charged you have the race angle in there you have

00:10:42.660 uh the the first amendment the second amendments in there so emotion uh while it's supposed to

00:10:52.800 not have a place in a courtroom you're dealing with evidence and facts uh and and what happened

00:11:03.280 not how you feel, the emotion that this brings out in people.

00:11:10.280 So you have to pretty much be of the mindset that if someone says something to you

00:11:17.800 that you find offensive, you have a right in some way, shape, or form

00:11:23.340 to physically harm that person.

00:11:27.780 And that starts this case off.

00:11:31.120 Again, you cannot, in a self-defense case, you, as the person that used the weapon in self-defense, can't be the instigator.

00:11:45.620 You can't have started it.

00:11:48.020 Now, does verbally offending someone fall into that criteria of starting the problem?

00:11:56.700 That's what's going to be argued.

00:11:58.920 I don't think it rises to the occasion.

00:12:02.500 I think the law dictates that you can say things.

00:12:06.640 There might be consequences.

00:12:08.580 You could get punched in the face.

00:12:11.140 Most people would say, yeah, that guy deserves to be punched in the face.

00:12:15.500 But legally, does that person have a right to punch you

00:12:20.340 after you've just said something that offends you?

00:12:23.440 That's the big, big part of this because that's what started the whole thing between these two men

00:12:29.980 that ended with Dalton shooting the guy.

00:12:34.260 So we'll talk about that a little more next after the break with your phone calls.

00:12:41.240 I hope we have the phones fixed.

00:12:43.920 800-848-9222 when the Anthony Cumia Show continues.

00:12:49.760 It's the Anthony Cumia Show.

00:12:52.120 Entertaining and informative.

00:12:54.220 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:12:58.960 It's the Anthony Cumia Show.

00:13:01.400 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:13:05.380 It's the Anthony Cumia Show.

00:13:07.280 And as I look at the phones, boy, a lot of people wanting to comment on the Long Island Railroad strike.

00:13:14.520 we'll get to the um dalton chud the builder etherly uh story and your comments on that but

00:13:23.700 yeah let's go to kevin in long beach kevin what's up man yeah how you doing it good the only the

00:13:31.260 only chud i know is a bad 80s movie called chud which was an acronym for cannibalistic humanoid

00:13:37.160 underground dwellers we all remember that one terrible okay yeah okay about the railroad strike

00:13:45.020 i was talking to a disgruntled ex-employee in a bar a couple of weeks ago and he told me these

00:13:50.820 stories that were incredible but you know the conductors start at 59 to 62 000 a year

00:13:56.780 but with the automatic overtime whatever that is they can make up to a hundred thousand dollars

00:14:02.700 a year.

00:14:04.560 Engineers, $120,000

00:14:06.460 to $160,000

00:14:08.500 a year.

00:14:10.900 The

00:14:11.280 unit is fraught with

00:14:14.480 Medicaid ripoffs and phantom

00:14:16.420 back pain and disability ripoffs.

00:14:19.080 And do you remember those guys from like

00:14:20.580 10 years ago that were stealing the copper wire?

00:14:23.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:25.020 They pay

00:14:26.520 off the guy who ran the yard

00:14:28.080 that watched it, and they would use the

00:14:30.480 railroad trucks to bring it to the scrap

00:14:32.340 I mean, these guys, I mean, this union is so corrupt, it's unbelievable.

00:14:37.060 Wow, sounds like old mafia stuff.

00:14:40.440 Yeah, I mean, how much money is enough with these unions?

00:14:44.500 You know what I mean?

00:14:45.580 I don't know.

00:14:46.220 You know, if you bash the unions, you get people pissed at you.

00:14:51.980 If you're with the unions, you get people pissed off at you.

00:14:55.980 I think overall, I think unions were a great thing many years ago,

00:15:02.340 and the workers were being taken advantage of by management and the bosses,

00:15:09.000 and it had a place.

00:15:10.760 But I think like anything else, it built up to such a powerful thing.

00:15:15.400 All these unions are very powerful, and, you know, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

00:15:21.100 So that's what we're kind of sitting on now are a lot of corrupt, very powerful unions that get their way.

00:15:31.440 yes and the politics that got into it how much money they give these uh like hokul and everybody

00:15:37.460 else right right the the unions pay the politicians to do what they want uh the politicians to do is

00:15:45.880 one hand washes the other and uh you know we see a lot of that but like i said you say that to a

00:15:51.180 union guy and you're like oh what's the matter what you get up for the worker so no way you

00:15:56.340 can't win for losing kevin hey but the father was an old union man from way back and even he got

00:16:03.720 frustrated at what it turned into you know just a money grab you know yeah yeah a lot of corruption

00:16:09.500 in there all right buddy thanks man uh you know it's it's like any other thing it gets political

00:16:16.940 the second an organization gets powerful and and they can do things they can deliver votes

00:16:26.380 money merchandise whatever it is uh that's when you'll get the people with their greedy little

00:16:34.860 mitts in there so uh unbelievable lenny lenny from beth page new york these are all

00:16:43.760 train stations by the way what's up they are now we don't have to worry about crossing the uh tracks

00:16:50.880 but still you know what long island as you know we pay tremendous taxes oh yeah vocal puts in

00:16:57.760 vocal puts in congestion pricing raises hundreds of millions people are not paying for the railway

00:17:04.340 people aren't paying for the buses they're jumping a turnstile they say that's 800 million

00:17:10.600 That's $800 million.

00:17:12.260 She gives $8 billion to Mamdani, and now she can't pay the workers?

00:17:17.580 Yeah.

00:17:18.180 She gives $8 million to Mamdani, who then the next day goes on social media

00:17:22.480 and starts talking about how amazing he is that he took care of the budget deficit.

00:17:27.740 What a lion sack this guy is.

00:17:31.960 Oh, and she is, too.

00:17:33.300 So she gives $8 billion, which she doesn't have.

00:17:36.560 She takes from the pension fund and this and that.

00:17:38.580 And she gives it to him, this communist socialist, and he brags about it.

00:17:44.040 But meanwhile, she puts in all these congestion prices.

00:17:46.960 She's raised millions, and they let people jump the turnstiles, go on the buses for free.

00:17:52.540 I can't pay the union.

00:17:53.920 I'm not a big pro-union guy at all.

00:17:56.300 But if you're going to do all that stuff, pay the workers.

00:18:01.300 You know what it's going to do?

00:18:02.860 You know what they're going to do, though?

00:18:04.560 They don't take a hit on that.

00:18:05.960 What do you think, the NTA, the city, the state, anyone's going to have to dig out of their pockets?

00:18:12.060 It gets passed on to the consumer.

00:18:14.840 And when you say consumer, as far as public transit goes in New York City,

00:18:18.420 you're talking about the few suckers that are actually paying to get on these platforms

00:18:25.500 and trains and buses and whatnot.

00:18:28.680 And instead of enforcing.

00:18:32.060 New York is second.

00:18:34.060 California, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, all blue states.

00:18:38.020 Yeah.

00:18:38.340 People leaving.

00:18:39.460 And they say, oh, our population is going down.

00:18:42.160 But all the taxpayers are leaving and illegal immigrants are filling their spots.

00:18:47.140 And they're not paying.

00:18:48.000 They're jumping turnstiles.

00:18:49.260 They go on the bus.

00:18:50.000 If the bus driver gives them any guff, they start punching the bus driver.

00:18:53.780 How stupid can we be?

00:18:55.480 I live on Long Island.

00:18:56.420 Pretty stupid, Lenny.

00:18:57.880 How stupid can we be to stay here?

00:19:02.060 Yeah, well, you're talking about yourself.

00:19:04.280 I ducked out a couple of years ago.

00:19:06.940 I'm an idiot, but I'm here.

00:19:08.880 And you went to South Carolina, and I love South Carolina.

00:19:11.560 I go there all the time.

00:19:12.460 A beautiful day today.

00:19:13.640 I was throwing the frisbee around with the dog.

00:19:15.520 Just one of those picture-perfect afternoons.

00:19:19.720 Love it.

00:19:20.280 Nothing like a red state.

00:19:22.020 I hear you.

00:19:22.880 I hear you, Lenny.

00:19:23.680 Yeah.

00:19:24.020 Thanks for the call, brother.

00:19:25.480 Be well, and good luck.

00:19:27.880 Good luck with all that, as they say, because that's, you know, it brings up a good point, though.

00:19:36.480 If they kept their books in order, if they made sure things were taken care of, bills were paid,

00:19:43.820 law enforcement made sure that everybody getting on these transportation modes were paying,

00:19:50.180 and make them a viable option to the commuter.

00:20:00.200 Because it's not, oh, take the subway, take the bus, go screw.

00:20:07.260 There's no way people want to get on these things.

00:20:10.860 If you made it more pleasant, by pleasant I just mean not getting feces thrown at you

00:20:16.340 or getting shot or stabbed.

00:20:19.860 Make it more pleasant, and you might get more people using the system,

00:20:24.560 and it would pay.

00:20:26.540 It would actually pay.

00:20:28.600 But no, they don't do that.

00:20:31.660 They keep it the way it is.

00:20:34.440 It's a mess.

00:20:35.340 They don't want to do what has to be done, and they lose money.

00:20:38.260 And then when MTA employees want to raise, they don't have it.

00:20:43.920 They've got to dig.

00:20:44.660 They've got to dig into the taxpayers' money, the pension funds, everything else.

00:20:50.480 So good luck.

00:20:52.460 Good luck, people of New York.

00:20:56.760 Here's Dan.

00:20:58.960 Dan's in Utah.

00:21:00.180 I guess Dan got out of New York.

00:21:01.620 What's up, Dan?

00:21:04.300 Yeah, like you, I left New York.

00:21:06.360 Hello?

00:21:07.080 Yes, good man.

00:21:09.400 Yeah, I left New York like 25 years ago when Bloomberg was in office.

00:21:13.380 I hated it.

00:21:14.120 I moved to Texas and Utah.

00:21:16.600 I remember that strike about 20, 25 years ago.

00:21:19.580 It was the MTA, though.

00:21:21.540 So I just started hitchhiking home.

00:21:23.920 I printed up a few signs cursing the MTA, hitchhiked up to the 59th Street Bridge,

00:21:28.900 then over the bridge, and up to Astoria.

00:21:31.160 I never got home faster.

00:21:32.920 They're in unions now.

00:21:34.560 They hold the city hostage.

00:21:36.380 That's a ballsy move, and not many people could do that, especially today.

00:21:40.880 No one wants to pick up a hitchhiker.

00:21:43.820 And if you are hitchhiking, you don't know who's picking you up.

00:21:48.940 So, you know, if you're a big, burly guy.

00:21:51.020 Everyone was sympathetic.

00:21:52.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:53.260 If you're a big, burly guy, that's not a problem.

00:21:55.700 If you're a little dude or a waifu woman.

00:21:58.940 I love it when you talk about guns, too.

00:22:00.360 Yeah.

00:22:01.700 Yeah.

00:22:02.220 All right, Dan.

00:22:02.720 Thank you, man.

00:22:03.420 I'm a big guy, and I've got my guns.

00:22:04.960 There you go.

00:22:05.820 Well, I'm not in New York.

00:22:07.880 That's a tough thing to get is a gun in New York.

00:22:11.740 So I'm looking at the phones.

00:22:13.140 and there are more people chiming in.

00:22:15.520 They want to talk about Dalton Etherly, Chud the Builder, and he's locked up.

00:22:22.980 I guess they gave him a million and a quarter, $1,125,000 or $225,000 bail.

00:22:33.360 And we'll talk about that next.

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00:22:38.480 Don't go anywhere.

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00:23:51.920 It's the Anthony Cumia Show on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:23:58.260 It is the Anthony Cumia Show, and talking about a few things this evening,

00:24:03.080 one of which is Chud the Builder, Dalton Etherly,

00:24:07.800 And his, what I guess is going to be a self-defense case, he's locked up.

00:24:13.980 They put over a million dollars bail on this guy.

00:24:18.860 And that brought up a bunch of discussions, if I could call them that, on social media.

00:24:25.380 Bitch fests, whatever you want to call it.

00:24:28.440 Because people said it was way too much for what he did.

00:24:33.660 And he's being persecuted because of his attitude, his mindset, his ideology, things he said in public, more so than the crime he committed, allegedly committed.

00:24:51.740 There have been people that have actually killed other people and been released on less bond than over a million dollars.

00:25:01.740 um carmelo anthony stabbed a young man at a sporting event killing him from initial reports

00:25:11.000 i mean the trial hasn't happened yet but uh there hasn't been anyone that's come forward to say that

00:25:16.100 the dead uh young man did anything to deserve being killed uh that day and uh carmelo anthony

00:25:26.100 While he initially got a million-dollar bail, they lowered it to $250,000,

00:25:32.940 of which you only need $25,000 cash.

00:25:37.400 He got that through a GoFundMe-type money-raising platform.

00:25:46.180 And he's home with his parents, playing video games, and awaiting trial.

00:25:53.120 Well, then you get Dalton Aetherly, who didn't kill somebody.

00:26:02.760 Yes, he's allegedly committed a crime.

00:26:06.840 He shot somebody using a firearm and commission of a crime.

00:26:11.080 He's got a bunch of charges on him.

00:26:13.480 But mathematically, again, taking the emotion out of it, it doesn't seem to make much sense.

00:26:21.160 what is to say that he deserved over a million dollars bail

00:26:28.220 and this Carmelo Anthony guy that stabbed an innocent young man

00:26:32.900 for what seems to be no reason whatsoever

00:26:37.060 is out on much less money.

00:26:42.780 So that's been a big thing too.

00:26:44.320 Self-defense is everybody becomes a self-defense law expert when things like this happen.

00:26:56.880 I remember the George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin case, which was a self-defense case.

00:27:08.280 Trayvon Martin did not have a weapon.

00:27:12.880 Zimmerman did.

00:27:14.320 And the jury came back and said, yeah, he was justified in taking the life of Trayvon Martin.

00:27:24.680 At that moment, Mr. Zimmerman felt that his life was in imminent danger of ending.

00:27:31.940 The story went that Trayvon Martin was beating Zimmerman's head against the sidewalk.

00:27:40.440 And Zimmerman felt he was going to lose consciousness.

00:27:45.580 And then what?

00:27:47.120 Does his gun get compromised?

00:27:50.500 Does he keep getting his head bashed against the sidewalk until he's dead?

00:27:54.560 So he was able to convince a jury, his lawyer was able to convince a jury,

00:27:59.080 that Zimmerman felt his life was in imminent danger of being taken.

00:28:05.480 And they said, yep, that's self-defense, all right.

00:28:09.660 I don't know how this case will go.

00:28:13.820 Like I said, we don't have a lot of the info on that.

00:28:18.980 Will Dalton Etherley's lawyer be able to convince a jury

00:28:23.520 that he felt his life was in imminent danger of being taken?

00:28:29.720 Or will he just go with a judge?

00:28:31.840 I think going with a jury on a case like this is nuts.

00:28:37.380 You don't know what you're going to get.

00:28:39.040 And the prosecution is going to try to load up a jury with people that are 110% emotion.

00:28:47.560 That's it.

00:28:49.260 We don't want you looking at the laws.

00:28:51.680 We don't want you looking at the facts, the evidence in the case.

00:28:55.600 We want you to sit in that jury box from beginning to end of this case

00:28:59.260 and think nothing but how awful a person this is, the terrible things he said,

00:29:05.120 and regardless of evidence or law, you want him put in jail

00:29:09.780 because he's a terrible person.

00:29:11.480 That is what happened.

00:29:13.520 And it happens.

00:29:14.300 We saw very recently some members of the O.J. Simpson jury

00:29:20.340 from back in the 90s came forward and said,

00:29:23.620 oh, we felt O.J. did it.

00:29:26.500 We just felt we needed to send a message

00:29:29.980 that the judicial system had been systemically racist for so long

00:29:37.220 that we had to blah, blah, blah.

00:29:39.860 So the last thing a defendant wants is an emotional jury sitting there,

00:29:46.480 and that's what the prosecution is going to want to put in that jury box.

00:29:50.640 So you go with a bench trial with a judge.

00:29:53.860 Hopefully it's a sensible judge.

00:29:57.240 He does know the law.

00:29:58.720 That's why they're up there.

00:30:02.080 And then see if you could not convince the judge so much as show evidence

00:30:07.960 so that when he renders a decision, it is based on the law.

00:30:12.900 I think that's his best chance.

00:30:17.880 He's already been tried, convicted, and executed on social media.

00:30:23.180 And then there's location.

00:30:25.840 uh people go oh yeah well uh self-defense this is self-defense and this isn't self-defense

00:30:33.180 uh where are you what state are you in what city what township what county

00:30:40.440 it all matters a lot of these places have different laws and different criteria for

00:30:48.400 self-defense some states like uh the wonderful california and new york and all these liberal

00:30:57.300 democrat blue states for the most part they demand that you um withdraw retreat you have an obligation

00:31:09.320 under the law to try to find a way out of the danger you're in uh-oh i feel my life is in

00:31:18.160 imminent danger let me look and see if there's an exit here other states smart states like

00:31:25.600 south carolina uh that isn't an obligation you have the right to defend yourself there are

00:31:36.740 laws that are called stand your ground laws and castle doctrine and uh these mean that you as

00:31:45.220 an American citizen, have the right to defend yourself.

00:31:50.920 Deadly physical force can be used to respond to a potential deadly threat.

00:32:00.080 So where you are is a big thing, and that matters, so that will come into play.

00:32:07.600 The other thing is how it played out.

00:32:11.080 You can dispatch somebody that you reasonably feel was going to kill you,

00:32:18.680 and it is self-defense.

00:32:21.380 If that scenario continued for another 30 seconds,

00:32:27.540 and the person who 30 seconds prior you could have dispatched completely legally,

00:32:36.640 let's say they turned around and started running away,

00:32:39.540 and you shot them because seconds earlier you felt your life was in danger.

00:32:46.920 Well, that might not necessarily be self-defense anymore.

00:32:50.480 That could be murder.

00:32:52.420 That's how quickly self-defense changes into murder

00:32:58.900 or reckless manslaughter.

00:33:04.360 It changes by the second.

00:33:09.540 Do you know someone could start, in certain areas, someone could start a fight with you and hit you, and you have a weapon on you.

00:33:24.700 You start by fighting.

00:33:26.260 You hit them back.

00:33:27.340 It's a regular fight.

00:33:28.800 You feel you're losing the fight, and you think, I might have to go to lethal force.

00:33:35.840 And the person goes, all right, all right, enough.

00:33:38.220 you now can't do anything that person is controlling the uh the fight at that point

00:33:46.780 and you don't have the right to use deadly physical force anymore that's how quickly

00:33:54.800 things can change so again we don't know we don't know what uh was happening at that moment

00:34:04.240 And from what we've seen, it looks like Dalton was walking around doing his thing,

00:34:09.960 dropping end bombs.

00:34:11.040 He was coming out of a court to deal with a prior incident that he had.

00:34:18.300 He was out on bail for that.

00:34:20.280 Doesn't look good.

00:34:22.240 And then he saw a group of black gentlemen, and they started yelling toward him.

00:34:30.320 This is what he said.

00:34:31.820 Started yelling toward him.

00:34:33.260 He asked them if they like his suit.

00:34:36.500 He was wearing a suit for his court appearance.

00:34:39.500 And then one of the guys walked up to Dalton because he had had it.

00:34:44.880 He didn't think joking around was what he wanted to do with this guy.

00:34:48.760 He wanted to hit him.

00:34:50.580 And Dalton, I think, had asked him something to the effect of if he was chimping out.

00:34:56.200 And the guy said he has PTSD.

00:34:59.280 He's apparently, so he says, a veteran with some mental issues.

00:35:05.940 He has quite the criminal record.

00:35:08.540 I don't know how that comes into play in a self-defense trial.

00:35:11.060 And he walked up to Dalton and punched him and body slammed him,

00:35:17.700 at which point Dalton pulled out his gun and shot the guy.

00:35:25.600 Did Dalton instigate this?

00:35:28.800 You can't say he instigated this last week that the guy he shot

00:35:35.580 saw a video online of Dalton from last week saying horrific things to people

00:35:41.700 and at that moment said, I am going to punch this guy if I ever see him.

00:35:47.100 And then he saw him and regardless of what Dalton did or didn't say at that moment,

00:35:53.420 decided he had seen enough and walked up and punched him.

00:35:58.800 That isn't legal.

00:36:01.840 It's not reasonable.

00:36:03.120 You're not allowed to do that.

00:36:06.540 And that will absolutely come into play.

00:36:10.820 I know a bunch of people are very, very offended by what Dalton was going around saying.

00:36:19.500 But again, that just does not give somebody the right to walk up and hit somebody

00:36:25.640 because you were offended.

00:36:28.800 And I recently had an instance in New York City.

00:36:34.320 I was in New York City at a comedy club, and some guy put a camera in my face

00:36:38.480 and starts yelling horrific accusations at me.

00:36:44.380 And I didn't like it.

00:36:47.620 So I reached over and I grabbed the glasses off of his face

00:36:52.220 and threw them on the ground.

00:36:53.320 I figured it was a measured response to what was going on.

00:36:58.800 Is that legal?

00:37:00.320 I don't think so.

00:37:01.960 I don't know.

00:37:04.340 Would you do it?

00:37:05.880 Probably.

00:37:07.640 You get a lot of armchair lawyers that go, well, no, I know not to do things like that.

00:37:12.820 If you're a guy and somebody's mouthing off into your face right in front of you,

00:37:21.540 sometimes you just feel like you've got to defend your honor.

00:37:27.500 at some point

00:37:29.200 and a lot of us would do that

00:37:32.800 but this guy walking up to Dalton

00:37:34.740 and if he hit him first

00:37:36.620 even if Dalton was saying

00:37:38.700 horrific things about him

00:37:40.380 legally

00:37:41.460 that doesn't bode well

00:37:44.960 for him

00:37:45.920 he should actually be up on charges too

00:37:48.340 I know he's not and again I think that's

00:37:50.580 all emotional

00:37:51.320 this has a lot of emotion

00:37:54.240 and facts and evidence

00:37:57.040 might not play as big a role in this

00:37:59.760 as we would like to see

00:38:02.480 if you do like the fact that we have a fair

00:38:05.760 judicial system. We hope to.

00:38:08.840 We hope that's the case. Blind justice.

00:38:12.020 Go on the evidence. Weigh the evidence.

00:38:15.660 But that's just not the way it really works.

00:38:18.900 It's how it's supposed to work.

00:38:20.580 It would be nice if it worked that way.

00:38:23.220 But it's just not the way it works.

00:38:25.120 I remember the Casey Anthony trial where she was accused of murdering her daughter, a very young toddler, baby daughter.

00:38:37.840 They found the body.

00:38:39.820 It was pretty much a skeleton.

00:38:43.380 And there was duct tape that was around the skull, around the mouth area,

00:38:50.460 whereas it looked like the baby before it had skeletonized

00:38:55.500 had had the mouth duct taped closed.

00:38:59.920 That was it.

00:39:00.980 There wasn't any DNA on anything.

00:39:04.940 It was down the street from Casey Anthony's house.

00:39:09.600 And I watched the whole trial.

00:39:11.880 Fascinating.

00:39:13.120 And at that point in time,

00:39:15.240 these late night crime shows on CNN and all the news channels

00:39:21.700 had these pundits, these analysts and crime experts.

00:39:28.640 And they would talk about the case, what happened in court that day.

00:39:32.120 And I tell you, there were so many people, especially women,

00:39:36.940 who were convinced she was going to prison for murdering her daughter.

00:39:42.100 I know she did it.

00:39:43.320 You could see it in her face.

00:39:45.240 Who else could have done it?

00:39:47.420 All that.

00:39:49.100 And as we know, Casey Anthony was acquitted.

00:39:51.880 Not guilty.

00:39:53.660 And everyone lost their mind.

00:39:56.080 How could she be not guilty?

00:39:58.320 It's right down the street from her house.

00:39:59.800 There was no kidnapping.

00:40:01.200 This, it was duct tape.

00:40:03.860 Yeah?

00:40:05.020 There was no evidence that could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey Anthony killed Kaylee.

00:40:14.520 her daughter none no evidence so you have to you can just go well i think she seems that way

00:40:23.180 she was partying while the girl was missing she did that yeah it doesn't prove murder

00:40:29.180 so uh that was an emotionally charged case it involves a baby geez you women go nuts

00:40:37.080 and they were like no she's absolutely guilty uh that happens you know if they would have gotten

00:40:44.280 a jury of

00:40:46.120 women, emotional

00:40:47.680 like that, mothers themselves

00:40:50.140 and maybe Casey

00:40:52.280 Anthony would have been convicted

00:40:53.660 you just can't tell

00:40:55.960 and in a case like this with

00:40:58.140 Dalton, Chud

00:41:00.100 again, it's

00:41:02.220 racially

00:41:03.160 explosive

00:41:04.820 and

00:41:06.640 the racial

00:41:09.920 makeup of that jury will

00:41:12.080 be the single

00:41:14.080 most important thing if they go with a jury trial, the single most important thing in

00:41:17.880 this case, any evidence, witness testimony, throw it away, the most important thing will

00:41:25.400 be the racial makeup of that jury.

00:41:30.820 And, you know, if it's not, you could get like some liberal white women in there because

00:41:36.500 they seem to hate men anyway.

00:41:38.060 uh but uh that's that's kind of where he stands at this point i think he's got a bail uh hearing

00:41:49.440 or they might lower his bail but uh i don't see anything good happening for this guy because no

00:41:57.580 one wants to be the person that did anything good for this guy uh you're you're stepping on a land

00:42:04.580 mind if uh if you do that so uh we'll see we'll see it will be self-defense though uh it will be

00:42:13.500 a self-defense trial i don't think he wants to go with the i didn't do it angle we we all know he

00:42:20.740 did it and talking about it in plain english he was stupid for doing this you're sacrificing your

00:42:29.600 life for what you know make a point like that in that way and not too uh not too smart back in a

00:42:38.880 moment it's the anthony cumia show entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network

00:42:46.540 it's the anthony cumia show on the red apple podcast network

00:42:53.820 The Anthony Cumia Show.

00:42:58.200 We were just talking about Dalton Etherly, Chud the Builder.

00:43:04.560 You know, he's kind of in a jam.

00:43:06.840 Let's talk to Scott, Venice, Florida.

00:43:08.920 Scott, what's up, man?

00:43:10.700 Anthony, how are you doing tonight?

00:43:12.260 Good, good.

00:43:13.440 Thank you.

00:43:14.640 I don't want to debate, you know, whether what he was doing was right or wrong.

00:43:18.960 I think he has the right to say whatever he wants.

00:43:21.340 My point is this.

00:43:23.020 Excuse me.

00:43:23.820 As a concealed carry guy, I carry everywhere, every day.

00:43:27.600 Yep.

00:43:28.420 I purposely do not put myself in a situation where I might have to use that.

00:43:35.560 Yep.

00:43:36.140 Do you know what I mean?

00:43:37.180 I know exactly what you mean.

00:43:38.740 I've said this a number of times.

00:43:40.540 The best way to get people to de-escalate a situation is by having a gun on you.

00:43:48.500 Because if you're smart, if you're sensible, if you're a rational person, the last thing you want is any type of conflict or confrontation while you're the one holding the gun.

00:44:01.480 Exactly.

00:44:02.140 It is a last option, no other choice, my life is in danger or, you know, my family life is in danger.

00:44:10.580 But to go out and yell that kind of thing, it's like if you're in the woods and you see a rabid grizzly bear, you don't run up to it and poke it with a stick.

00:44:18.500 you kind of back away from it slowly.

00:44:22.020 You know what I mean?

00:44:23.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:24.100 You're asking for this to happen.

00:44:27.760 Yeah, the best thing he could have done

00:44:31.440 if he wanted to do this

00:44:32.660 was do it without a gun on him.

00:44:35.400 It sounds odd coming from me.

00:44:38.960 I am a champion of the Second Amendment

00:44:41.940 and I believe an armed populace

00:44:47.100 Populist is a courteous and safe populist.

00:44:51.380 But in this case, yeah, you're being a provocateur.

00:44:54.900 Your job is to go out there and agitate people.

00:44:58.140 You don't want to have a weapon on you because you might.

00:45:01.940 You're now taunting people to put you in a situation where you might have to use that to defend yourself.

00:45:09.900 And even if it's legitimate that somebody was trying to kill you because of what you say, you're not going to squeak right through the court system because of what you were doing in the first place.

00:45:22.940 So not a good look.

00:45:24.540 Why didn't he hire himself a bodyguard if this was this important to him about getting out your freedom of speech?

00:45:31.480 Yeah, they have some of these people that walk around.

00:45:37.780 and they're just annoying people and they are bodyguards and they're annoying

00:45:43.540 and you want them to get hit because, you know, they're pain in the ass.

00:45:49.640 But, yeah, this guy, I don't know.

00:45:51.540 I just don't think he was thinking ahead with the possible consequence

00:45:58.080 because he looked, when they told him a one and a quarter million dollar bail,

00:46:04.200 He didn't look like a guy who was like, good, I'm making a point here.

00:46:08.480 I'm sacrificing myself for the greater good of free speech.

00:46:11.840 He looked like, oh, Christ, what did I do?

00:46:14.920 What did I do to my life?

00:46:16.320 And the irony of the fact that he's named after the world's most famous movie bouncer

00:46:20.180 does not escape me at all.

00:46:24.040 Yeah, I don't know.

00:46:26.060 We'll keep an eye on it, see where it goes.

00:46:29.020 Thanks, Scott.

00:46:30.780 Appreciate the call.

00:46:33.020 Isn't that nuts?

00:46:34.520 Just crazy.

00:46:36.620 I don't know what we're going to do.

00:46:40.120 We're a very tense nation, aren't we?

00:46:42.540 Aren't we a very tense nation?

00:46:45.220 Take one more quick call about Matt Bronx.

00:46:51.660 What's up, Matt?

00:46:54.040 Hey, Anthony.

00:46:55.340 So pretty much with regard to the Long Island Railroad strike,

00:46:59.200 I can't say that I'm sympathetic to the public sector unions.

00:47:03.820 I think they're, on the whole, they're rather greedy.

00:47:08.240 They have a sense of entitlement.

00:47:11.540 And they really don't take into consideration that, you know, again, you know, that, you know, while it is critical that, you know, people have the ability to move around, that, again, the city budgets are constrained, you know, and municipal budgets are constrained these days.

00:47:28.060 with all the immigrants coming in, and you still have to run civil essential services.

00:47:34.420 And I'll give you an example of how people feel entitled when they belong to these municipal unions, labor unions.

00:47:41.960 If you remember about a decade ago, yet the NYPD SSDI fraud case,

00:47:48.600 we had literally hundreds upon hundreds of retired FDNY and NYPD cops and firefighters.

00:47:56.380 they were getting publicly funded pensions retirement pensions and they were also fraudulently

00:48:03.740 applying for disability benefits all right in federal governments yeah so it's it's very much

00:48:10.220 a welfare mentality that these people have uh and you know because you know when you really think

00:48:16.180 about it what are the police with their free medical a free dental a free pension they kind

00:48:21.240 to remind me of gun-toting welfare recipients uh that's but you know it but they really don't

00:48:27.460 really take into consideration the fact that you know working people who have to pay the taxes

00:48:31.980 you know people in the private sector who are privately employed they work as hard if not

00:48:37.520 harder than people in the public sector unions and ultimately it's their pockets where the money's

00:48:43.400 coming from yeah but i i i agree with some of what you're saying but look if you get a job

00:48:49.920 in a union and you spend

00:48:51.900 years in there, you expect to get

00:48:53.980 what was promised to you. It's not like

00:48:55.980 you're coming up with something and saying

00:48:57.880 I want this out of

00:49:00.100 nowhere. These are

00:49:01.540 entitlements. It's, you know, using

00:49:03.960 the word entitled. These are

00:49:05.660 entitlements that are due

00:49:07.380 these employees.

00:49:10.560 So

00:49:11.200 it's hard to tell them no

00:49:13.420 and sound like

00:49:15.200 you're

00:49:17.860 just being unbiased.

00:49:19.920 You know, I don't know. It's a tough situation. Thank you, Matt. Again, it comes down to the money coming out of our pockets and going into someone else's.

00:49:31.940 And, you know, I said it earlier, unions have been around for quite some time. Some of them are good. Some of them are corrupt.

00:49:40.860 Some of them have been unbelievably corrupt and related to La Cosa Nostra.

00:49:50.140 So, you know, it's part of what we have to, I guess, live with, deal with, part and parcel with having a job.

00:49:59.000 I don't know.

00:49:59.760 Back in a moment.

00:50:00.980 Don't go anywhere.

00:50:02.200 It's the Anthony Cumia Show.

00:50:04.540 Entertaining and informative.

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00:50:17.840 The Anthony Cumia Show.

00:50:20.740 And welcome back.

00:50:23.380 Checking out Game 7, Cavaliers and the Pistons.

00:50:28.420 I guess the winner goes on to play the Knicks.

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00:53:22.420 And do predicts checking out movies.

00:53:30.240 You know, what was the big the big story about movies this past week?

00:53:36.720 Well, we all know what that was, don't we?

00:53:41.080 The Odyssey. Yep.

00:53:44.220 The Odyssey, a big I mean, this is a tale as old as time itself.

00:53:50.160 isn't it? Christopher Nolan

00:53:52.480 is making the movie

00:53:55.180 Matt Damon's in it

00:53:56.500 and

00:53:57.800 people aren't happy with the casting

00:54:00.980 it's not too happy

00:54:02.880 with the casting

00:54:03.980 of what's going on

00:54:06.920 in the Odyssey

00:54:09.120 it's not true to the

00:54:12.420 the book, the tale, the story

00:54:14.780 and there have been

00:54:16.720 some

00:54:17.240 some people guessing, I guess.

00:54:21.000 There's rumor of certain people that are going to take certain roles.

00:54:27.240 The funniest one is Elliot.

00:54:31.200 What the hell is his name?

00:54:33.760 The little trans kid, Elliot Page.

00:54:37.920 Ellen Page was a young woman.

00:54:40.500 Now is Elliot Page, a twinkish, waifish young man and rumored to be playing Achilles,

00:54:54.440 who, if you remember the movie Troy, was Brad Pitt.

00:55:04.160 And that was fantastic.

00:55:06.320 That was a great casting.

00:55:08.680 Very, very believable.

00:55:10.500 not like Elliot Page, because I really don't see that ever happening.

00:55:18.100 But then there's other ones, you know, Helen of Troy,

00:55:21.300 the most beautiful woman on earth,

00:55:23.900 and she's going to be played by an African-American woman.

00:55:28.960 So this, this really has people up in arms saying why.

00:55:34.680 It's a Greek story.

00:55:39.420 It's ancient.

00:55:41.620 These characters have been fleshed out.

00:55:44.460 Everyone knows what they're supposed to look like.

00:55:48.340 And people are, they do a lot of whataboutism.

00:55:54.360 They go, well, what if you got a white guy to play Martin Luther King?

00:56:01.360 And everybody starts that never-ending argument that goes nowhere, ever.

00:56:06.620 but you know i think stories should be consistent with uh if you're if you're doing something from

00:56:15.680 a book or a previous movie you should stick to the writer's image of what these people were

00:56:25.620 if you want to you know make a little artsy fartsy movie and change things around that's fine

00:56:31.160 go to it but you might not sell as many tickets

00:56:35.160 and i for one believe the only reason this is being done

00:56:39.800 is to cover the criteria that the academy has put in place

00:56:45.560 for the past few years that puts restrictions on your casting

00:56:53.900 they tell you who you need to have working in your crew

00:56:59.580 who you need to cast as main characters and secondary characters.

00:57:05.380 And this is ridiculous.

00:57:08.100 This is directly interfering with the art of filmmaking.

00:57:13.700 So I guess Devon Franklin and Jim Giannopoulos,

00:57:20.100 he's the academy governor at the time,

00:57:22.780 and this Devon Franklin, just an activist,

00:57:26.160 Head of the task force that developed the proposed representation and inclusion standards,

00:57:33.800 RAISE, that's what it's called, for best picture eligibility.

00:57:39.640 These standards were announced in 2020 as part of the Academy Aperture 2025 initiative.

00:57:48.620 They were inspired by the British Film Institute.

00:57:52.400 That way you know it's a loser if it comes from Britain the way they've been lately.

00:57:57.200 Diversity standards used for U.K. funding and BAFTA eligibility adapted for the Oscars.

00:58:07.940 The Academy consulted with the Producers Guild of America before doing this.

00:58:13.400 Now, why should anyone have a say in who you put in your movie?

00:58:21.400 especially for a period piece, something of legend

00:58:26.240 or something from the olden days where you knew damn well

00:58:31.220 there were going to be people of a certain race, religion,

00:58:34.720 certain background, skin color, whatever it is.

00:58:39.180 Why throw a glaring distraction into a movie

00:58:43.760 that you're already trying to suspend disbelief

00:58:46.240 because it's supposed to be from a time where they didn't have cameras.

00:58:54.160 And you're watching this movie, and now this glaring distraction comes up,

00:58:59.240 and you go, oh, wait a minute, what?

00:59:01.360 That's really the Queen of England?

00:59:03.980 And it's a woman from India.

00:59:06.560 so uh i don't agree with these the criteria that they put uh in order to get an academy award now

00:59:16.620 look christopher nolan's making this giant epic movie you don't think for a second he would love

00:59:24.500 to see it nominated for best picture or win the best picture academy award and i've heard from

00:59:31.820 people on social media that go oh he doesn't care about that oh really they only hold a giant party

00:59:39.340 every year for people that what don't care if they win or not it's everything to them it's

00:59:47.700 recognition for their work it's more money that the movie makes because it's a best picture

00:59:55.140 Academy Award winner

00:59:56.880 they care

00:59:58.760 and if they want to make a movie

01:00:01.100 and they want to cast

01:00:02.280 an entirely

01:00:04.760 white cast

01:00:06.200 they're not going

01:00:09.240 to be eligible

01:00:11.100 to win a Best Picture

01:00:13.120 Oscar or some of the

01:00:15.140 other roles it's like well one of your lead

01:00:17.000 characters has to be a minority

01:00:19.340 or a marginalized

01:00:21.400 person

01:00:22.360 transgender

01:00:24.420 Gender, gay, 40% of the crew has to be marginalized, minority, or women.

01:00:33.600 This is so intrusive to the art of filmmaking or anything else.

01:00:40.940 Anything else.

01:00:41.940 Tell an artist what he has to paint.

01:00:45.240 Tell an amazing artist that wants to paint a scene.

01:00:49.080 Nope.

01:00:49.960 In order for you to hang it in our gallery or sell it or get it recognized,

01:00:56.200 you have to paint a certain amount of people of a certain color or racial background.

01:01:04.400 Does that seem like a good way to get the best art out of people?

01:01:10.520 Nope.

01:01:11.400 I'll answer it for you.

01:01:12.840 Nope.

01:01:13.720 It doesn't.

01:01:15.280 Not at all.

01:01:18.340 So I think Christopher Nolan was put in a position where he had to do this.

01:01:25.840 Not that he wouldn't want to or he doesn't mind it,

01:01:30.860 because I think he's pretty liberal as far as they go,

01:01:34.440 and he thinks that if you even bring this up, you must be a horrific racist.

01:01:41.160 And that has nothing to do with it.

01:01:43.260 It's a historic, mythical piece.

01:01:48.340 And the characters have been fleshed out by the writers, the history of it.

01:01:56.180 So we'll see.

01:01:57.580 We'll see how it does.

01:01:59.200 I'm sure it'll get a lot of money and do very well.

01:02:03.700 But why have this type of controversy?

01:02:07.860 Oh, it's so stupid.

01:02:09.100 All right.

01:02:09.740 Back in a moment.

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01:02:25.200 the anthony cumia show thanks for tuning in um on the uh continuing a little bit with the movie

01:02:37.860 thing and the uh oscars the academy putting all kinds of conditions on motion pictures to be

01:02:46.840 nominated for a Best Picture Oscar, Sonny Hostin, oh boy, The View, you know, one of

01:02:55.860 the gals from The View, she opened her yap about the casting of a black woman as Helen

01:03:05.760 of Troy, who in all of the previous iterations of the story and different translations,

01:03:12.340 interpretations, has always been a fair-skinned white woman.

01:03:19.400 Now, it might not bug you that it's a black woman.

01:03:23.080 I don't think it's that big a deal.

01:03:26.920 It's just, it's such a traditional, historic, cultural story

01:03:34.720 that you would think people would want to adhere to the way it was originally depicted.

01:03:40.640 but that is not the case.

01:03:43.720 But Sonny Hostin, she's going to let us all know a little bit about history.

01:03:49.740 That's clip AC7.

01:03:52.100 This idea was also explored in a book called Black Athena.

01:03:56.640 I think people should read it, which argues that classical Greek culture

01:04:00.100 is heavily indebted to Afro-Asiatic and Near Eastern roots.

01:04:04.160 I actually taught Greek mythology to eighth graders, and so I covered this.

01:04:09.660 So people that are saying that Helen of Troy could not possibly be played by a black woman don't know history.

01:04:18.260 So it's history.

01:04:19.980 It's fact.

01:04:21.820 This is all mythical stuff, by the way.

01:04:24.240 A lot of mythical, magical stuff going on.

01:04:28.600 And if it's Black Athena, the book that she's pushing, I'm going to assume it's biased.

01:04:34.740 I'm going to assume they're already going into it with an idea of what they're trying to get at.

01:04:41.980 Sonny Hostin.

01:04:43.200 I taught Greek mythology.

01:04:45.400 Oh, God, imagine that class.

01:04:48.360 Imagine the nonsense coming out of her yap as a teacher.

01:04:53.540 And because she was a teacher, she knows that Helen of Troy was black.

01:05:02.380 so i could always depend on the the gals of the view can't you sondra my dear from new jersey

01:05:13.860 what's up oh anthony i was just thinking about you as you were talking saying that yeah i was

01:05:21.660 thinking gee i haven't spoken to him in a long time i hope he takes my call and you did and i'm

01:05:26.460 so happy so yeah so i was thinking you know you were speaking earlier about the virus the hunter

01:05:33.360 virus yes it's very interesting it's interesting to me i have a young adult daughter and she

01:05:40.140 listens not to wabc but to other stuff and she spent time with me last night and she was very

01:05:47.880 very concerned about this virus and it's okay to be afraid i'd rather she'd be afraid than not

01:05:54.680 Then, today, I had dinner with a friend.

01:05:57.960 She's a lawyer, and she doesn't buy it at all.

01:06:01.420 She thinks it's another gimmick, like maybe the COVID thing.

01:06:05.240 Well, that wasn't a gimmick.

01:06:06.340 It really happened, but you know what I'm saying.

01:06:08.260 She thinks it's all political, and they're going to try to scare us.

01:06:12.200 And then, so, I heard today on WABC a doctor, I don't remember which one it was,

01:06:18.900 speaking about...

01:06:19.300 Vinegar Bots, huh?

01:06:21.660 What?

01:06:22.240 What did you just say?

01:06:23.520 Never mind.

01:06:24.020 you continue okay okay he was saying how 38 percent of these people will die from this

01:06:31.260 that's a lot and so i'm a little bit afraid but i didn't cower to the covet thing i never took

01:06:38.180 that vaccination and i wouldn't do it with this either but what no that's that's good that's good

01:06:45.380 you did that let me let me let me just say something because you you brought up what was

01:06:49.040 at 30 38 you said yeah that's what i heard today on the radio yeah see see they they try to scare

01:06:56.320 you with numbers like that i believe that the the the rate of fatality for hunter virus is 38 if you

01:07:05.460 get it you there's a 38 chance of you dying from it that doesn't mean anything because the odds of

01:07:14.580 getting it are so small that it's not like COVID where everyone was getting it.

01:07:21.240 This is not a disease that you could transmit by sneezing on somebody.

01:07:26.980 You need to inhale dried up rodent feces from a rodent that had the Hunter virus.

01:07:36.780 This is primarily in a lot of the Indian reservation areas of the American Southwest.

01:07:44.580 If you look at people that have died of the Hunter virus, aside from what's-his-name's wife there,

01:07:50.460 the actor that recently died, you realize that a lot of people that have died from this

01:07:58.780 are people that live in poverty on a lot of these Indian reservations in the Southwest.

01:08:07.320 So the odds of getting it are so small.

01:08:10.300 So you take that 38% and they run around, scare you with that.

01:08:15.320 But you're not getting it.

01:08:16.980 You're not getting it.

01:08:17.800 Your niece isn't getting it.

01:08:18.940 Your granddaughter isn't getting it.

01:08:21.320 They're trying to scare everybody with this new disease.

01:08:26.780 Glad you said that because you made a very good point now,

01:08:29.980 and I'm going to share that with my daughter.

01:08:32.040 There you go.

01:08:33.820 Share that with your daughter.

01:08:35.040 Unless her name is Hiawatha, don't worry.

01:08:38.240 It's not a problem.

01:08:39.260 She's going to get Hantavirus.

01:08:41.600 Thank you, Sandra.

01:08:43.500 Everyone's scared, see?

01:08:45.060 I saw an article in the paper, an article.

01:08:48.020 Isn't that funny?

01:08:48.960 No, I saw a post.

01:08:50.700 In the old days, we used to see an article in the paper.

01:08:54.240 I saw a post, and it was about Ebola.

01:08:59.820 Ebola.

01:09:01.200 Oh, they found Ebola somewhere in Africa,

01:09:05.060 and that's just a horrifying disease.

01:09:09.260 And they always love putting the symptoms in the stories.

01:09:14.880 Bleeding from the eyes and ears and mouth and uncontrollable diarrhea.

01:09:21.640 And, oh, it's just terrible.

01:09:24.380 What they don't tell you is that Ebola is one of the hardest diseases to spread amongst people.

01:09:34.340 A lot of people that get it are in these out-of-the-way African villages.

01:09:43.380 And they can't live long enough with Ebola to spread it.

01:09:49.740 They can't get enough people with Ebola to leave an area, go to another area,

01:09:56.160 and spread the Ebola amongst those people.

01:09:58.600 That's how lethal it is.

01:10:00.240 And the people are very sick.

01:10:02.500 They don't travel when they have Ebola.

01:10:05.440 They just lay there and suffer and then expire.

01:10:09.540 So the chances of getting Ebola going in the United States or really any civilized Western nation is so ridiculously slim.

01:10:22.300 But it doesn't stop them from trying to scare you.

01:10:25.980 And I don't know what the fear factor is, why they try so hard to scare Americans and Europeans with this stuff.

01:10:38.720 I guess maybe like like covid to try to maybe affect elections, keep people home.

01:10:46.280 When people are home, they're a lot easier to control and propagandize than when they're out living a life talking to other people.

01:10:55.980 And I think that's a big part of big government and other entities that want to scare people and control them.

01:11:06.360 The less real face-to-face communication you have with people, the better it is for people that want to grab onto as much power as they can.

01:11:19.280 You know, you could talk about how we have the ability to speak to each other online, but you don't even know who you're talking to.

01:11:24.300 You don't know if people are saying if it's even true, false, half-truth, complete garbage.

01:11:36.040 Being out and about living, breathing the air, talking to real people,

01:11:42.540 that's something a lot of people that want to grab up power, they love that.

01:11:51.000 They love that they keep you strapped to your chair in your house, scrolling, staring at a screen and scrolling, doom scroll, doom scroll more.

01:12:05.740 All right, back with more of your calls and a lot more of the Anthony Cumia Show next.

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01:12:30.260 And I guess over the weekend, what was that, yesterday?

01:12:33.820 They had the Unite the Kingdom rally in England.

01:12:41.120 Choliot, England.

01:12:42.340 Yes.

01:12:43.040 Tommy Robinson was a big part of that, getting that together.

01:12:47.900 And it was pretty much, hey, we don't like what's going on in our country.

01:12:53.320 Our once great kingdom seems to be invaded by a lot of outsiders,

01:13:00.500 people that don't really appreciate or care for the English traditions, customs, heritage, history.

01:13:11.740 And they seem to be really into committing some horrific crimes.

01:13:17.900 especially against British women.

01:13:22.500 A lot going on over there.

01:13:24.900 So Tommy and a bunch of other people, they call them right-wing, horrible people.

01:13:31.640 How do you say that?

01:13:33.540 The guy's just saying we are letting in people that are destroying the fabric of England.

01:13:42.240 And there are so many videos that you could watch of oldie-time England.

01:13:49.600 You know, not even crazy long ago, the 80s, it looked like a great place to go and visit.

01:13:56.840 I wanted to go to England so bad for so many years, and I could never swing it, you know.

01:14:02.460 And now I wouldn't even want to go.

01:14:04.960 Why would I want to go?

01:14:06.020 I could just go to Times Square, New York, and see a bunch of people that are here illegally picking people's pockets

01:14:13.880 and wearing stupid costumes to take pictures with kids and rob their families.

01:14:20.040 So that was going on, and man, there were a lot of people.

01:14:25.860 I mean, that crowd was huge.

01:14:29.900 and i think we're being led to believe that that's the minority that the people that want

01:14:40.560 a return to the traditions of your country and your people are the minority because the

01:14:49.440 politicians speak and the entertainers they speak and it's all uh how everyone loves this

01:14:58.660 oh do you know

01:15:00.520 white Brits

01:15:02.580 will be the minority

01:15:04.260 within five years and they're like

01:15:06.840 that's a great thing

01:15:08.100 because diversity and this and that

01:15:10.560 you go how

01:15:11.360 how are white Brits supposed to hear

01:15:14.860 that and go oh

01:15:15.860 jolly good

01:15:17.860 how

01:15:19.160 why would you expect that

01:15:21.960 and then why would you

01:15:24.300 give them crap

01:15:26.000 for going no

01:15:28.520 We don't want that.

01:15:29.960 I like in England where white Brits were the majority

01:15:34.400 and we didn't have people that are becoming a majority in this country

01:15:42.020 that don't understand some of the most basic of human laws,

01:15:48.600 just being human beings, civility, respect.

01:15:53.580 how are you supposed to cheer that on

01:15:58.540 and the second you don't cheer it on

01:16:01.460 you're a problem

01:16:02.560 you pick up a sign that says England first

01:16:06.280 rally unite the United Kingdom

01:16:10.140 they throw you in jail over there

01:16:12.560 they arrest you

01:16:14.500 you make a social media post

01:16:17.900 that you have a problem with the

01:16:20.740 the influx of people from third world countries you go to jail it's not uh

01:16:29.020 we we we feel we have it bad here as far as speaking out and being called racist or

01:16:37.740 sexist homophobic islamophobic all those things well it's rare anyway that you will be arrested

01:16:45.980 for those views you can be canceled you can have your life completely destroyed

01:16:52.940 but you won't be sent to jail uh that to me is amazing so you have to have people like tommy

01:17:02.180 get up there and uh go uh unite the kingdom and and it seems like the people that were into this

01:17:10.120 are great, great numbers.

01:17:13.180 Great numbers of English people

01:17:15.960 that want a return, I guess, to better days.

01:17:21.160 It's so hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube,

01:17:26.600 is what they say.

01:17:28.460 I think the UK is even further gone

01:17:31.240 than we are here in this country.

01:17:33.940 There's no going back.

01:17:35.800 We just got to hope for a way forward

01:17:38.860 that is less of what we have now

01:17:43.920 and more of traditional America

01:17:48.600 with its traditional values

01:17:50.740 and our connection as Americans.

01:17:55.820 I often talk about Americans being connected

01:18:00.040 by more than just the borders around the country.

01:18:03.520 There was a time, it didn't matter who your neighbor was,

01:18:06.840 you could barbecue have your neighbor over and you could commiserate talk about some of your

01:18:14.560 similar ideology you could have differences of opinion on things but for the most part just

01:18:21.060 being american you had enough in common that you could have a discussion laugh about things

01:18:26.500 now there are people that despise your american values and your american traditions they want

01:18:35.900 them eliminated and uh i don't know i don't think there's a way of turning that back which is

01:18:43.560 terrible uh you you talk about what could can the president do what could our elected officials do

01:18:51.360 nothing they're protected by some of the very laws that protect us and things have gone too far

01:18:59.020 and there's really no turning back sad it's very sad you got to find a little enclave of people

01:19:05.800 that think like you and hope that lasts a few years other than that you know who the hell knows

01:19:14.320 other than that let's go to uh maybe sal sal in jersey what's up sal good evening anthony how you

01:19:23.820 doing buddy good good anthony i want i want to bring up two points number one sunny hofston

01:19:29.300 is doing exactly what communists did in foreign countries she she rewrote history concerning this

01:19:35.220 crap about black athena she makes up her own history yes a lot of entertainers these days do

01:19:44.920 that they bring up uh things they they talk about it like it's gospel and if you uh have a differing

01:19:52.300 opinion you are a horrible racist right and the second point i want to make is my former hometown

01:19:59.000 of bayonne was a beautiful bayonne new jersey was a beautiful apple pie town that was chock full of

01:20:04.360 muslims and that's going to happen all over the country god forbid if we don't put our foot down

01:20:09.700 and react swiftly and firmly yeah if i mean it's doesn't it seem like we're uh past the point of

01:20:18.800 no return i mean it's not completely i don't want to sound paranoid but i don't see how you turn back

01:20:25.880 unless we could start really bodily throwing people out of this country people that are

01:20:32.740 considered citizens now this sounds terrible doesn't it oh my god anthony what are you advocating for

01:20:39.160 uh yeah some people need to be removed from the country uh they they got in here under some type

01:20:48.940 of ploy uh some type of uh loose end and and uh they're they're detrimental to the way this country

01:21:00.040 works and and the way it has worked for many years and again traditions are important culture

01:21:08.180 is so important uh people united under one flag one ideology and i don't mean one single ideology

01:21:18.220 as far as things like religion go that's fine but that we live in a country that has certain rules

01:21:25.520 certain standards and that the american people have agreed to this and we like it that way

01:21:32.860 and uh there are people coming in from the outside that are undermining that at every turn

01:21:39.420 and we're supposed to not only not complain but celebrate it we need to clap and cheer them on

01:21:46.440 as they destroy everything we hold dear

01:21:50.020 one more thing when my people came to america from italy there were so many italian immigrants

01:21:58.000 that were bodily thrown back to italy they were sent back why can't they do the same thing with

01:22:02.400 these muslims i don't know i don't know it's it's terrible thing we'd be terrible terrible people if

01:22:08.480 we did that i don't know we're so self-sacrificial uh i don't know why i don't know where the guilt

01:22:15.220 comes from sal i don't have any uh all right buddy thank you for uh for the call there sal

01:22:21.220 is sal he knows about the italians coming over my grandmother it's what it is and i have to hear

01:22:32.360 all the time about you know the italians when they came here they weren't considered uh americans and

01:22:40.080 they weren't considered white people and they weren't considered and this that and the other

01:22:44.180 thing it's like there is a history a great history with italian the italian people in italy

01:22:53.360 of amazing accomplishments architecture i mean you look at some of the amazing buildings and

01:23:06.220 architecture that italians have uh contributed to worldwide by the way not just in italy

01:23:13.500 of science, physics, engineering, the space program,

01:23:22.860 the Enrico Fermi, the atomic bomb, splitting of the atom.

01:23:30.640 Italians have contributed so much.

01:23:34.380 And then because years ago a bunch of Italians came over to America

01:23:39.140 to make a better life for themselves,

01:23:40.780 And you're trying to equate them with third world people that came out of stick houses.

01:23:50.600 And you're trying to tell me that it's the same thing.

01:23:54.300 Oh, yeah.

01:23:55.200 Italians.

01:23:57.040 Oh, yeah.

01:23:57.440 Just like Somalis.

01:23:59.680 Just stop.

01:24:01.940 Just stop.

01:24:03.740 Unbelievable.

01:24:04.800 Svachim, you make me sick.

01:24:08.900 get off my phones

01:24:11.520 goodness gracious

01:24:15.700 let's go to

01:24:16.720 Giana

01:24:19.540 Brooklyn, New York

01:24:21.620 what's up

01:24:22.220 good evening

01:24:25.040 I so much enjoy your

01:24:26.940 your street cred

01:24:28.420 you got a lot of street cred

01:24:30.280 thank you dear

01:24:31.760 you're for real man

01:24:33.840 you're not just ideological

01:24:35.560 but I would like to say something

01:24:38.240 You deal a lot with these things that are hypocritical.

01:24:46.540 Hypocrisy.

01:24:47.340 Yes.

01:24:48.220 Hypocrisy.

01:24:48.700 Not hypocrisy.

01:24:49.560 Not hypocrisy.

01:24:51.620 Hypocrisy.

01:24:53.140 Yes.

01:24:54.000 You know what's funny?

01:24:55.300 You know there's so much hypocrisy.

01:24:57.400 Okay, we've got sanctuary cities to protect whom, to protect the illegals.

01:25:02.040 But then in England, the people who've been there who are native can't have sanctuary in their own place and have a voice.

01:25:09.600 And also, what about this Mondami guy? Mondami, baby.

01:25:13.680 What is he doing, man? What is Mondami doing?

01:25:17.240 He champions socialism. Socialism.

01:25:21.420 Well, capitalism is just the regular way of doing business we always did all these years.

01:25:26.760 You grow some food, you sell it. You make something, you sell it.

01:25:30.140 That's capitalism.

01:25:31.600 They didn't have to write an ideology.

01:25:34.500 Who did this?

01:25:36.040 Two Jews, Karl Marx and Engels.

01:25:39.560 They made this whole socialist castle in the sky.

01:25:44.320 That's what we want to reach for.

01:25:46.800 Hey, my dummy hates Jews.

01:25:49.600 He's a freaking socialist hypocrite because why is he championing Karl Marx?

01:25:55.480 It makes no sense, baby.

01:25:57.040 I would love to confront him on that tip.

01:26:00.140 Oh, did you just did you just curse?

01:26:03.600 I think she said the S word, but thank you, Gianna.

01:26:07.580 Boy, she's a firecracker.

01:26:10.160 Oh, boy.

01:26:13.960 Yeah, you know, communists, socialists, it's all the same thing.

01:26:18.600 And Gianna was right.

01:26:19.940 As far as capitalism goes, it's just the way people did business before there was a term for it.

01:26:27.060 I like that.

01:26:28.400 I would like to have that.

01:26:30.700 There are two ways to do it.

01:26:32.340 I could smash you over the head with my club and take it.

01:26:35.900 Or I can work out an even trade.

01:26:40.160 I have something you like.

01:26:41.420 You have something I like.

01:26:42.540 We'll trade that.

01:26:44.340 And that is doing business, supply and demand, all that.

01:26:49.980 And, yeah, that's the way things have worked.

01:26:53.000 The communist thing, the one guy in the cave goes,

01:26:56.260 hey everyone give me everything you have whether you have a lot of it or a little of it i'll take

01:27:02.540 it i'll keep it in my cave and then i'll dish it out to you evenly you'll all get the same thing

01:27:09.060 and then i'll be sitting up here with all your stuff so i'll be able to just have

01:27:13.720 everything i'll eat well i'll have all the furs so i'll be warm i'll have the magic rock that

01:27:21.120 makes the fire but i'll make sure each and every one of you get exactly the same little piece of

01:27:27.720 food little piece of fur little you know i'll i'll come down and make the fire for you because

01:27:33.320 we can't trust you with fire but that's that's socialism that's communism as opposed to hey i

01:27:39.900 like that fur i'll give you my wife for it maybe that wasn't a fair trade but uh that's how things

01:27:47.300 worked back in the old days folks um so we were talking about uh england and and this um

01:27:54.480 unite the kingdom that tommy robinson and stuff they're they're working with a prime minister

01:28:01.700 over there kier starmer this guy you know i think about the past prime ministers of

01:28:10.260 england and uh some of them were a little goofy some of them were very powerful others not

01:28:17.140 so much and this guy i mean he's just watching watching a once great nation a kingdom the sun

01:28:30.000 never set on the british empire and uh just watching it go right down the tubes and

01:28:37.260 lambasting anybody that has a differing opinion and this clip right here shows you all you need

01:28:44.540 to know about what what kind of person he is and uh his strength his willingness to stand up for

01:28:52.460 his country and what's it this guy is so confused uh ac5 uh let's hear cure

01:29:00.420 it transphobic to say only women have a cervix well it is uh something that uh shouldn't be said

01:29:10.660 it is not right but Andrew I don't think that Rosie Duffield should not have said that can you

01:29:15.300 explain to people watching why she should not have said that Andrew I don't think that um we can just

01:29:21.120 go through various things that people said Rosie Duffield I spoke to Rosie earlier this uh week

01:29:26.540 and told her that conference was a safe place for her to come um and it is a safe place for her to

01:29:32.440 Oh, it's a safe place.

01:29:34.600 So a safe place for a transgender person is a place where you don't say such horrible things as only a woman has a cervix.

01:29:46.300 You need to be a woman to have a cervix.

01:29:49.640 That, for some reason, is alarming and not safe.

01:29:55.760 All of a sudden, you've turned that space into an unsafe space for a transgender person.

01:30:01.240 And Kier wouldn't even say whether women are the only people with a cervix

01:30:11.340 or if a man can indeed have a cervix.

01:30:17.900 You should not be able to run for dog catcher if you can't answer that

01:30:25.360 with a definitive yes, women are the only ones that have a cervix.

01:30:33.400 If you can't definitively answer that with a resounding absolutely positively yes,

01:30:41.400 you don't deserve to hold any office representing any people

01:30:47.060 responsible for the lives of people.

01:30:50.760 if you are that screwed up in the head that you can't answer that question

01:30:56.260 and you think it would make people feel unsafe.

01:31:01.560 A scientific fact, not a theory, nothing that has a question to it.

01:31:12.920 Men have prostates.

01:31:15.500 Women do not.

01:31:17.240 Women have cervix.

01:31:18.580 Men do not.

01:31:20.140 absolutely every single time for millennia.

01:31:26.640 That's how that needs to be answered, Kierre.

01:31:30.980 Not with this, we don't know, maybe.

01:31:36.280 We shouldn't even talk about it.

01:31:38.180 That was my favorite.

01:31:39.860 All right, back in a moment.

01:31:41.260 Stick around.

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01:31:56.700 the anthony cumia show let's go to uh danny over there in california oh boy how you doing over

01:32:06.040 there danny i'm doing fine anthony because i'm listening to your show i love it uh the problem

01:32:13.020 the problem could be solved you just end legal immigration i notice it's a topic that nobody

01:32:18.940 wants to talk about but that's simple you end legal immigration these invaders come in legally

01:32:24.840 every year over a million of them and they have family unification that's a law where they can

01:32:29.800 bring the whole tribe in once they get here and uh that's the whole answer but i i'm going to give

01:32:35.380 you what the problem is the saudi arabians and the communist chinese have bought off the politicians

01:32:40.540 in america most of the politicians and the corporate people and also in europe too they

01:32:47.540 They've bought off, the Saudi Arabians have bought off the Europeans, most of the politicians, most of the corporate people.

01:32:53.380 That's why they're building giant mosques in London and Paris and Rome and everything.

01:32:58.540 So that's the whole answer.

01:32:59.880 You just stop legal immigration and you get the illegals out, but they want them here.

01:33:03.320 The truth is Saudi Arabia, China, poured billions of dollars into Western civilization, and they want to really marginalize the conservatives, the people.

01:33:15.820 So you'll have nothing.

01:33:16.760 You'll be talking in a phone booth.

01:33:19.380 That'll be your political roundup.

01:33:22.120 You'll have 10 people in a phone booth.

01:33:23.460 You'll be outnumbered.

01:33:24.500 And that's what they want.

01:33:25.480 You have communist mayors, foreign-born in New York City now.

01:33:29.620 Federal judges are foreign-born.

01:33:31.780 You get rid of that legal immigration.

01:33:33.820 And, Anthony, I got a special friend here for you.

01:33:39.200 He's a big fan of yours.

01:33:40.800 Come over here, Steve.

01:33:42.020 Hey, it's Steve from Manhattan, man.

01:33:43.840 What's up?

01:33:45.020 Hey, Steve from Manhattan.

01:33:46.360 How are you, sir?

01:33:47.980 I'm doing great.

01:33:50.260 And my friend Danny over here, I told him about your show.

01:33:53.640 We're out in California right now.

01:33:55.080 California is a dump.

01:33:56.420 They're going to have that female woman, Raymond, running for mayor in Los Angeles.

01:34:03.960 She's born in India.

01:34:05.820 She's a communist.

01:34:06.800 She's a Muslim.

01:34:07.780 So we're going to have Muslim-born communist mayors in the two biggest cities in America.

01:34:12.620 And that's just the beginning.

01:34:14.360 They'll be everywhere.

01:34:15.700 That's what they're doing.

01:34:17.200 And as far as the legal, as far as what Danny was saying about the legal immigration,

01:34:21.780 how many of these Republicans do you see that are constantly going,

01:34:24.880 we like immigration, but as long as it's legal.

01:34:27.520 No, no, unless you're pulling people from like those farmers from South Africa.

01:34:33.160 Yes, bring them in.

01:34:35.040 They're hard workers.

01:34:36.000 They understand values that we have in civil Western societies.

01:34:41.000 How about Germans? Great engineers, smart. Those are the people that we want coming over here legally.

01:34:51.780 If you have illegals and legal immigrants and they're both from the same pot, what's the difference a little paperwork makes?

01:35:01.360 Oh, he's a legal immigrant, but he's still a burden on the country, doesn't want anything to do with our ideology or traditions.

01:35:10.000 No, I don't want legal immigration either, quite frankly.

01:35:14.120 Well, I agree with you, but unfortunately, the third world is a role over America.

01:35:18.520 They're taking over all the cities.

01:35:20.520 Last year, when you brought up the South Africans, the Afrikaners, the Boazos, the white South Africans,

01:35:25.380 Trump wanted to bring 50 in, 50, and the leftists and the communists went nuts in this country.

01:35:32.060 So you know it's a racial thing with these cities.

01:35:35.100 And by the way, those were real refugees.

01:35:39.200 Those were people who were in danger of imminent death, and 50 of them.

01:35:46.440 And the crap that Trump got for saying he wanted to bring them over, actual refugees.

01:35:53.040 And, yeah, it's all racial, it's all political, and it's all bull, my friends.

01:35:58.560 Thanks for the call.

01:36:01.340 I've got to move in a little bit.

01:36:03.560 But isn't that crazy?

01:36:04.780 uh there's a topic here i wanted to bring up and we'll probably carry it over uh after the break

01:36:12.600 but um mem danny wants uh to fund the the new york city public libraries now on the outset that

01:36:24.720 looks like yeah okay what's wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that i get it the public

01:36:30.780 library quaint no real enemies it's not a controversial topic but uh my point on this

01:36:40.560 would be and i'd be curious as to see what uh the people think about this do we need public

01:36:48.660 libraries at this point in 2026 i know i sound like a uh what a nazi book burner no they had

01:36:58.260 What do I sound like? Somebody that doesn't want an educated public? No, there is information available at your fingertips at any moment, day or night. You don't need to wait to go to the library to get any bit of information you want.

01:37:19.740 so are libraries still something that we need

01:37:26.100 or is it just so traditional

01:37:29.100 and it's been looked at for so many years

01:37:33.460 as this, I don't know, a temple to knowledge

01:37:37.820 that is that the only reason we're holding on to it

01:37:43.540 sentimental reasons, nostalgia

01:37:46.920 The fact that they used to be where people went to get educated, go to school, but then you'd go to the library.

01:37:57.040 I need to study. I need to go to the library.

01:38:01.740 Is it the circus? Dated, old, ready to wrap it up, pull up the tent stakes and move on?

01:38:11.000 Or is it something that people still want to go to?

01:38:14.440 We'll play what Mamdani said about it next.

01:38:20.600 And, yeah, I want to hear from you guys.

01:38:24.720 800-848-9222.

01:38:27.420 Back in a moment.

01:38:29.220 Don't go anywhere.

01:38:32.260 Yeah, more of the Anthony Cumia Show when we return.

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01:38:55.220 Thanks for hanging in there with us.

01:38:58.620 And by us, I mean me.

01:39:00.580 We appreciate it.

01:39:03.600 Yeah, I was just talking about Mamdani wanting to fund the public libraries.

01:39:10.560 This is something everyone could get behind.

01:39:13.060 What's wrong with a library, for God's sake?

01:39:17.160 It's not like free buses.

01:39:19.980 That would be a catastrophe.

01:39:23.240 It's not like these social programs and alternatives to the police department,

01:39:30.380 letting criminals out.

01:39:31.980 These are controversial things.

01:39:34.400 You want to fund a library.

01:39:36.220 That sounds nice.

01:39:37.480 Everyone likes it.

01:39:38.260 Everyone can get behind it.

01:39:39.320 My take, though, is are we are we past needing library?

01:39:46.940 I don't know. Let's listen to Danny here. AC for it is time we stop asking our libraries to justify their existence.

01:39:56.040 It is time for us to expand what New Yorkers can expect from core government services.

01:40:01.460 Earlier this week, we released our executive budget.

01:40:04.400 In doing so, we spoke of how a budget is a reflection of the vision we have for the city.

01:40:09.320 of what we choose to materially support, what we choose to let wither.

01:40:13.640 And our executive budget reflects a clear set of choices.

01:40:16.740 City Hall believes in our public library system.

01:40:20.000 We are funding our public library system.

01:40:22.920 And instead of fighting to maintain the same floor year after year,

01:40:27.040 we will see how high we can raise that ceiling.

01:40:29.900 Our executive budget baselines $31.7 million in new permanent funding

01:40:35.360 across all three of New York City's public library systems.

01:40:39.320 yay 30 almost 32 million dollars for three libraries uh all right that's about 10 million each

01:40:55.840 uh for what just ah more books uh revamp of the card catalog

01:41:09.320 learning, teaching the kids the Dewey Decimal System.

01:41:15.740 Is that even still a thing?

01:41:18.020 I cannot tell you the last time I was in a library,

01:41:22.160 as the not-too-sharp kids in school used to call it.

01:41:26.180 I'll see you at the library.

01:41:27.620 All right.

01:41:30.580 My point is, are they needed?

01:41:34.400 Do we need buildings with books in them

01:41:37.760 so you can go there and go through, you know,

01:41:42.280 maybe the card catalog, the Dewey Decimal System,

01:41:45.060 get your book and sit down in the library and read.

01:41:51.640 Is that needed?

01:41:53.860 I can understand some people needing it,

01:41:56.280 maybe some people that don't have a good home life.

01:41:58.100 A student in school has maybe rambunctious parents

01:42:02.720 and they can't get their studies done.

01:42:06.680 But, I mean, what percentage is that?

01:42:10.740 And is an entire library needed for that?

01:42:16.300 And look, the phone, for how big a problem the cell phone has been,

01:42:24.420 the iPhone, the smartphone, has been over the course of the years,

01:42:28.680 the problem it's turned into, there are some good things.

01:42:34.480 And that is that any bit of information you could possibly need, want, or imagine is right there.

01:42:44.740 Right there.

01:42:47.440 I've taken to looking up things in the category of physics.

01:42:57.860 uh i watched oppenheimer and was just fascinated with the atom atomic energy for military and

01:43:07.860 civilian use how does it work you just go like how the hell did someone figure that out who was

01:43:15.580 the first one to split an atom how did they know uh that a chain reaction was possible all these

01:43:22.800 things and and with a swipe of my finger and and typing in some words the answer was given to me

01:43:31.580 and then i could look at videos and and see uh videos about these subjects and and i learned

01:43:44.240 a lot. I learned

01:43:46.360 more than I could ever learn

01:43:48.420 in school

01:43:49.380 about that, physics and

01:43:52.300 atomic energy and

01:43:53.880 elements,

01:43:56.520 both natural and man-made.

01:43:59.420 And it

01:44:00.340 was fascinating to me.

01:44:01.880 If I had to go to the damn

01:44:04.240 library, I just never

01:44:06.440 would have done it. I would

01:44:08.440 just be like, oh, how does that work? I don't

01:44:10.500 know. I don't know.

01:44:12.840 I wonder.

01:44:14.240 And I never would go.

01:44:16.160 Imagine what a pain in the ass it is to have a question

01:44:19.760 and then have to figure out how to answer it

01:44:23.960 in a building with billions of pages of information in it.

01:44:29.220 I could just ask Grok or any other AI the question.

01:44:35.600 Then I get the answer, and I now have the answer,

01:44:38.900 so I have the ability to go deeper into the topic

01:44:42.560 and learn actually learn things so my question is uh what the hell good are libraries in 2026

01:44:57.000 charlie in manhattan what's up anthony first of all the uh get from hell uh what's his name mandani

01:45:07.220 uh he's going to use the library as a means of indoctrination oh i'm sure there'll be prayer

01:45:14.660 rugs on the floors and um kirans all over the place uh oh i'm i'm certain of it oh yeah not

01:45:22.220 only that you go to the library today with the exception of the 42nd street library on fifth

01:45:27.700 avenue there is no such thing as a quiet library if you go to a library you want to sit there and

01:45:34.780 do research or you want to read whatever it is that you might want to do there's no quiet

01:45:41.260 community center it's a community center and it's mandated in spite of the fact that it's

01:45:49.760 mandated as a library we are living in a how should we say a revised reality reality where

01:45:58.940 The library no longer is a place to go where you can find a place that's quiet.

01:46:05.060 The environment is quiet and conducive.

01:46:07.900 Charlie, you bring up a great point there because I was being naive and stupid again,

01:46:13.740 thinking of, what, books?

01:46:15.380 They need more books.

01:46:16.620 That $10 million for each one of the three libraries are going to be put to some socialist programs.

01:46:25.440 It's another cover-up.

01:46:27.080 Oh, we're giving money to a library.

01:46:28.260 No, you're not. They're indoctrination centers. They're prayer rooms. They'll have prayer rooms in there for Muslims. And yeah, it's just another way to get taxpayer money to use for his agenda.

01:46:43.180 I don't put it past the get from help. He is a fraud. And I think those people that decided in their stupidity to vote to him are having second thoughts because he's not he's not a mayor for the people.

01:47:03.560 I find it amazing that he has the gall

01:47:07.780 He has the temerity

01:47:08.940 Not to make some kind of comment

01:47:12.660 Or some condemnation of the activities

01:47:16.000 That have been going on in the city in the last few days

01:47:19.760 Where he feels that he's above it all

01:47:22.640 And I'm a communist Islamist

01:47:27.480 Well, did you see, Charlie?

01:47:29.680 I don't like Israel

01:47:30.740 I don't like Jews

01:47:31.900 I don't like. No, I don't like these people. Why? Do you know anything about the history?

01:47:38.920 Charlie, did you see he he balanced the budget? It was amazing.

01:47:46.100 They had a deficit, billions of dollars, and he was on social media congratulating himself, saying, look, I brought a balanced budget.

01:47:56.800 Isn't that great?

01:47:57.620 He borrowed $8 billion from Hochul, but who cares about that?

01:48:04.740 That's down the road.

01:48:06.240 This guy is a fraud, and, you know, New York deserves him because they elected him.

01:48:13.360 Charlie, thank you, my friend.

01:48:15.340 Oh, my God.

01:48:16.480 What are you going to do?

01:48:18.180 But, yeah, I didn't even think of that, that money for the library.

01:48:24.080 I must go in.

01:48:26.800 to a New York City library next time I'm there,

01:48:30.780 I'll record it and put it up on YouTube

01:48:33.320 because I have to assume it doesn't really resemble a library.

01:48:40.760 I have to assume it's not a place you can go into and quietly study.

01:48:46.900 I'm going to try to pick a topic that I want to learn about

01:48:51.360 and go through whatever you need to go through to find a book

01:48:55.560 and bring it to a table and see if I could read and learn something.

01:49:00.740 Now, I know damn well I could do it a thousand times faster on my phone,

01:49:06.060 but let's just see.

01:49:08.440 Because I guess what we would, are we assuming that not everyone has a phone,

01:49:12.000 just like not everyone has an ID, so that's why we can't have voter ID?

01:49:17.660 Because there's some people that don't have ID.

01:49:20.280 Is it the same thing with libraries?

01:49:22.500 Everything is at our fingertips on the phone, but some people don't have phones.

01:49:26.740 So we need these multi-gazillion dollar buildings full of paper books.

01:49:35.080 I understand you should probably have them for historical record.

01:49:39.620 I mean, a couple of EMPs and all your information goes away.

01:49:44.500 So I could kind of understand wanting to have hard copies of books in these wonderful, beautiful architectural buildings.

01:49:56.860 But as far as them being useful for people in 2026 to go into and learn from, I don't buy it anymore.

01:50:07.040 I just don't see the value in that.

01:50:10.500 I see nostalgia, I see tradition, but I just don't see the value in going in there, that archaic system of trying to find what you're looking for, when you have a magic device in your hand, ready to go.

01:50:29.820 All right, don't go anywhere, where are you going?

01:50:31.940 We'll be back in moments.

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01:50:47.880 the anthony cumia show let's finish up the library thing with jay from connecticut jay

01:50:56.240 what's up hey i love your show hey listen i have a crazy thing here my mom was a librarian

01:51:03.700 okay i'm a voracious reader i work at the coast guard i read all the time but i gotta agree with

01:51:11.320 you man i've been the last time i went to the library in my hometown it was and that was years

01:51:16.760 ago it was a bunch of homeless guys hanging around playing with computers nobody had a book in their

01:51:22.060 hand i read all the time i order books online i got hundreds of books in my house i think they're

01:51:28.700 monument they're like a pyramid like why do we have them nobody's in there to read they're in

01:51:34.620 there to be out of the cold yeah a lot of especially the uh big cities you know new york city public

01:51:42.340 library it's famous it's been featured in movies and tv shows uh the big lions out front on the big

01:51:49.400 stairs and what really is it like you said the pyramids it's a sphinx it's a relic from uh an

01:51:57.060 ancient time yeah i agree with you i i just don't think anybody's in there i i the last time i was

01:52:04.760 in a library which is a hundred years ago um nobody had books in their hand they were all

01:52:10.840 like computers doing you know logging on to some weird site who knows yeah yeah just

01:52:16.720 nobody's taking books out anymore but p you can get a book online you can buy books without you

01:52:24.080 I mean, you can buy any book you want.

01:52:26.780 Yeah, I'm not saying books are bad.

01:52:29.020 I'm not saying reading is bad.

01:52:30.700 It's a huge thing.

01:52:31.980 But we do have a way to read books where we don't need the actual physical copy of a book anymore.

01:52:42.480 And I don't see a downside in that.

01:52:45.400 Some people find books to be works of art.

01:52:48.180 I mean, if you look at some of these old book bindings and the way they were done and the printing from old printing presses, it is a piece of history.

01:53:00.620 And I understand that part of it.

01:53:02.700 But, you know, I think these buildings are being used for a lot different reasons and purpose than than reading and studying and learning.

01:53:13.400 I agree.

01:53:14.260 I read every day.

01:53:15.420 i don't need to go to the library and we're spending millions on yeah basically it's get

01:53:22.080 out of the cold for people yeah i think he's turning them into shelters 10 million dollars

01:53:27.160 in the budget for three libraries 30 million dollars yeah he's doing something i don't i

01:53:33.720 don't put it past them to make these uh homeless shelters like he has everything else uh cool man

01:53:39.760 Hey, thanks, Jag.

01:53:41.300 Appreciate the call.

01:53:42.760 Oh, I can't hang up because the...

01:53:44.800 There it is.

01:53:45.440 Thank you.

01:53:46.880 Oh, my goodness gracious.

01:53:49.060 Yeah, you know, I like reading.

01:53:53.880 I'm sure some people don't believe that, but I love it.

01:53:58.240 But I'm just the institution of the library.

01:54:02.760 Sorry, I had to blow my nose.

01:54:04.840 I sneezed.

01:54:07.440 There we go.

01:54:09.620 ah a clean nose um this is uh this is amazing because this kind of goes hand in hand with

01:54:20.720 what we were just talking about the library and reading and learning um this is a montage

01:54:28.560 of teachers that are admitting that they cannot teach students it's gotten to the point

01:54:38.800 where they are incapable of having a classroom with kids in it

01:54:46.680 that they have any influence over, any authority over

01:54:51.700 to tell them to sit, be quiet, we're learning here, this is a class.

01:54:58.360 That's a thing of the past.

01:55:00.560 That is a thing of the past.

01:55:01.920 This is AC6.

01:55:04.200 These are teachers that are just admitting,

01:55:05.980 i'm leaving the teaching business it's uh impossible check this out what are you going

01:55:13.320 to do when they're all gone watch this i ultimately decided to leave because i realized i needed an

01:55:21.300 easier job no matter what i try to do they just they it won't go through their heads called a

01:55:26.940 parent today and i said just to let you know your child has an f in my class because they come in

01:55:32.040 and they don't do anything and then they start screaming she hung up buddy why'd you struggle

01:55:37.000 on this quiz what what was hard about what was difficult and they look me dead in my eyes and

01:55:41.520 they say i'll be honest i didn't read the passage what do you mean you didn't read the passage

01:55:48.120 school districts are trying to run like companies with the numbers and it's it's not

01:55:56.820 it's not the science of education today i walked out of my job i did i have two hours left of my

01:56:04.560 school day and i'm leaving because i'm so stressed out the students behavior their lack of trying

01:56:10.120 their apathy for school parents that don't give a shit i was getting so many questions

01:56:15.360 after i just explained my directions they got your yellow notebooks turn to page 14

01:56:20.420 and the kids just stare they're crying because they're getting blamed for literally any and

01:56:25.940 everything that children are doing yeah you could cut it off right there uh that potty mouth teacher

01:56:31.740 she's a regular potty mouth yeah these are teachers that are saying they cannot teach

01:56:39.900 they got into the job um probably with good intentions being an educator must feel nice

01:56:47.940 you know when uh you've taught kids and and they learn from you you're teaching style

01:56:55.700 got them interested the subject you're teaching is something you're passionate about that's got

01:57:03.900 to be great but it's turned into a it's not even as good as a babysitting job you're a corrections

01:57:15.620 officer i think a lot of these teachers are nothing more than corrections officers they go

01:57:23.520 into these classrooms and it's just sit down be quiet stop that uh there's fights the last thing

01:57:34.760 they want to do is actually crack a book or uh have a discussion about something

01:57:43.940 and the teachers are like what am i supposed to do how long does it take before they lose

01:57:50.600 the passion to teach um in in a lot of these schools and and even if there are students that

01:58:00.280 want to learn and the teacher just goes god i just want to get to this one kid or the this group of

01:58:08.160 kids in my class that really want to learn and are interested the distractions and the nonsense going

01:58:15.480 on is just too much and here's the biggest problem they won't do anything about it they won't do

01:58:24.740 one thing about it i recall growing up there was something called expulsion you could be thrown out

01:58:37.300 of school for your behavior it was normally not because you were a dummy they would work with

01:58:44.520 dummies but disciplinary problems and the reason they did it was because uh they were preventing

01:58:53.560 other kids from learning and uh now like that one teacher said not the one that dropped the s-bomb

01:59:01.560 but the one that said uh they don't want to learn the parents don't care that

01:59:07.020 you you have no recourse because there's no discipline because like the teacher said it's

01:59:13.900 run like a business. They get money. They get money from the state and federal government

01:59:21.140 for every student that comes in every day. I remember hearing that as a kid. They take

01:59:26.400 attendance and if all the kids are there, they're like, yep, good. We get money for

01:59:31.900 each one of your dumb heads. Every one of the dumb heads we count, we get money. So

01:59:39.100 they don't want to kick kids out of school it's less money they don't want to suspend them or

01:59:45.760 expel them they just leave them in there to do the damage that they are doing to everything

01:59:54.800 no discipline and then they they took away things like detention and other disciplinary things that

02:00:03.040 seemed to work when i was uh when i was growing up so it's they're like corrections officers

02:00:10.720 they run around uh just trying to keep the desk from being set on fire or from one of the other

02:00:20.440 students uh getting shanked maybe you don't want another kid getting shanked in the cafeteria

02:00:28.780 It is absolutely criminal, and these teachers are feeling it.

02:00:36.520 They don't know what to do.

02:00:38.180 Oh, are we 30?

02:00:39.920 Cool.

02:00:41.760 10?

02:00:43.340 Okay.

02:00:44.180 I'm talking to our home base.

02:00:45.660 We'll be back in a matter of moments.

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02:01:04.960 the anthony cumia show let's go to uh william in central jersey william dear boy oh dear what's up

02:01:14.740 how are you anthony hey dude i am just flabbergasted at what this library is in central

02:01:21.400 jersey i go in there there's like some kind of ethnic cooking show going on the whole place

02:01:27.500 smells like curry your nose is burning from crushed red pepper there's a daycare center going on

02:01:34.700 there's they're teaching people how to plant gardens and there's like 20 teachers in there

02:01:40.560 you know uh engaged in tutoring you know if nine times six is four divided by three i'm like oh

02:01:48.980 shut up and then there's a chest like a chess club going on i'm like what do you do you know

02:01:56.000 you scream silence like happening they've they've turned the libraries into community centers uh is

02:02:05.960 what it seems like i i never knew that i i went into this topic tonight and uh i learned a lot

02:02:12.260 because i i thought it was going to be like it used to be the library but these are now community

02:02:19.180 centers the money being raised or taxpayer money going to these are for these community projects

02:02:27.140 wow never knew like you see kids like you know doing flips and jumping off the tables i'm like

02:02:35.020 where the hell is the librarian i'm like you know it's just so crazy i'm gonna get the hell out of

02:02:42.920 here you know there's very rare very rare you see where they you know they enforce that like

02:02:49.120 there's a silent room that you can close the door yeah that's about it anthony i mean that's what we

02:02:55.540 all remember about the library was to shut your mouth be quiet when you go in there it's it's the

02:03:01.700 place you had to be quiet as a kid which was difficult to do as a kid but now yeah there it's

02:03:07.840 uh amazing uh william thanks man uh never knew we learned a little bit uh about the library today

02:03:16.000 they're not libraries anymore how about that oh my goodness uh let's see what else is going on

02:03:23.660 here that i wanted to get to uh oh los angeles this is this is great los angeles has decided

02:03:31.500 to stop performing pretextual traffic stops.

02:03:37.800 So the LAPD, I guess a civilian review board, whatever it is,

02:03:46.360 they've decided that the cops shouldn't pull over cars

02:03:53.860 for having taillight out, a cracked windshield,

02:03:58.920 no light illuminating the license plate headlight out not using a directional all these things that

02:04:09.480 cops have used forever to pull people over first of all for the actual violation i get it

02:04:19.220 you know it's a blinker who cares well it's a way for the cop to pull you over and see if you

02:04:28.900 have a license registration insurance and these are things i would think any driver would hope

02:04:37.740 that other drivers have if they're unlicensed unregistered uninsured that's all on you

02:04:45.500 that they don't care oh they'll go to jail maybe for a day they'll get a fine

02:04:52.760 that they won't pay they'll have their car taken away they'll just buy another piece of

02:04:58.480 garbage car no insurance so you're liable when they hit you we see a lot of uh we're talking

02:05:05.120 illegal aliens tonight you see a lot of illegals that don't have any documentation but they're

02:05:12.120 driving and what are the politicians in the democrat cities and states doing trying their

02:05:17.200 best to get them a license just give them licenses that's fine so um they want to stop the cops

02:05:27.760 from doing this because it was deemed what what i hear yes racist good job out there

02:05:40.120 it was uh decided that if the cops pull over somebody for a minor infraction or equipment

02:05:51.700 problem, that if you then use that as a pretext to saying license, registration, and insurance,

02:06:02.800 studies have found that most of the people who get arrested from these pretextual stops

02:06:13.260 are people of color.

02:06:16.900 Yep.

02:06:17.240 so using some kind of twisted logic they figured that it must it must be racist

02:06:25.900 it must be that the cops are racist and they're trying to uh get people of color in trouble

02:06:35.080 by pulling them over now i would think silly me i would assume that they're just finding anyone

02:06:45.320 that doesn't have the proper documentation to drive a vehicle on the public roadway.

02:06:51.620 But see, I don't think like that.

02:06:54.800 I don't think that it must be racist.

02:06:59.900 Do you see what I'm doing here?

02:07:04.740 These pretextual stops also lead to major arrests.

02:07:11.320 People that are driving with felony warrants.

02:07:15.320 Yes, for things as crazy as murder, rape, they're out there.

02:07:21.980 They find illegal guns on these people.

02:07:27.020 They get into car chases, and they drag them out of the car and arrest them.

02:07:34.060 It's all for a blinker.

02:07:36.280 I love watching the videos.

02:07:38.020 They go, you're arresting me for a blinker?

02:07:41.760 Nah, not really.

02:07:43.760 pulled you over for the blinker.

02:07:46.640 But you're being arrested because you have a gun

02:07:48.780 tucked down your pants, you're a convicted felon,

02:07:51.820 and you have 12 warrants out for your arrest.

02:07:57.320 But this is their idea.

02:08:00.740 This is their great idea.

02:08:03.020 This is what your representatives in Los Angeles

02:08:08.300 have decided is a great way to keep you safe.

02:08:13.760 Who is it keeping safe?

02:08:16.400 It's keeping safe the criminals that are driving illegally

02:08:21.520 and perhaps riding dirty with drugs or guns on them.

02:08:27.160 It's protecting them from any legal consequence

02:08:31.400 that they might face if they're pulled over for something

02:08:34.360 as simple as a cracked windshield.

02:08:37.720 Who is it not protecting?

02:08:39.900 The legal, law-abiding, tax-paying citizens that elect representatives that they hope will represent them and take care of their safety out on the roadways and keep criminals away from them, keep dangerous people from having guns on them.

02:09:01.160 All the things that they profess to be so passionate about.

02:09:06.300 and uh that's that's what they think is is a good decision i don't know how anyone stays in los

02:09:16.620 angeles just like new york i don't know how anyone stays in new york either but that's another thing

02:09:23.300 how about we uh we hop in a plane and we fly from uh lax to o'hare airport landing in o'hare

02:09:33.820 Let's look at Cook County, Illinois, and see what's going on there.

02:09:39.740 Do you know their ankle monitor program that they have?

02:09:44.160 This is where they take people, and instead of letting them languish in jail cells,

02:09:49.960 because that's so cruel, they give them ankle monitors,

02:09:54.660 and then they set them loose like an elk.

02:09:58.960 They put something in their ear, and then they just set them free.

02:10:05.960 Well, these are supposed to be for people that are committing nonviolent crimes.

02:10:14.580 We used to hear about this.

02:10:16.200 Why should someone who was caught with an ounce of weed,

02:10:20.940 why should they sit in jail with real criminals

02:10:24.480 because they can't afford bail to get out of jail.

02:10:29.160 And everyone went, yeah, that sounds reasonable.

02:10:33.020 And what did they do?

02:10:34.440 They took the inch and we gave them an inch and they took the proverbial mile.

02:10:43.340 And now some of the worst, most violent criminals are being released

02:10:50.740 with these ankle monitors and there have been instances where they have committed horrific

02:10:58.280 violent crimes while wearing the ankle monitor how do you tell how do you tell the cops uh you

02:11:07.540 weren't there and you didn't do it when you have an ankle monitor on while you're doing it

02:11:11.620 so uh the best part of this whole thing is that cook county ankle monitors

02:11:17.360 eight percent of the people that are given ankle monitors are just gone literally just gone they

02:11:29.860 disappeared no one is monitoring this is the problem they call them ankle monitors and we

02:11:39.160 found out that no one is actually looking at anything that monitors where these people are

02:11:47.480 at any given moment so they leave the house they leave the the county no one's actually looking at

02:11:55.560 anything and uh-oh this guy he's a wanted uh murderer a rapist robber and he just left his

02:12:04.200 house we just got a signal there isn't that they don't have anything it's the honor system

02:12:12.220 with people that have no honor but again this is chicago this is your mayor brandon johnson

02:12:21.980 this is your governor governor pritzker these are people that do want to do anything but protect

02:12:29.920 the people that are actually working, productive people of Illinois and the city of Chicago.

02:12:40.080 So let me listen to this, along with you, if I may, about this 8% of these ankle monitor

02:12:47.760 convicts, well, they are, that are just, they disappear, AC2.

02:12:53.100 As of last month, 2,450 defendants were on the electronic monitoring system overseen

02:12:58.960 by the courts. 590 of them, roughly a quarter, are awaiting trial for violent crimes. And we

02:13:05.660 learned today 8% of the people on electronic monitoring are AWOL. No one knows where they

02:13:12.120 are. The chief judge acknowledges it's a flawed system. How concerned should the public be about

02:13:17.980 those 8% of defendants who are AWOL? Concern is a tough thing to define, right? They're no longer

02:13:27.280 where they're supposed to be. They're no longer in their home. It doesn't mean they're out

02:13:30.560 committing crimes necessarily. Some might be, but they're actively being searched for right now by

02:13:37.880 law enforcement. Who is on electronic monitoring may surprise you. 210 defendants, 9% of the total

02:13:44.820 are facing an aggravated, unlawful use of a weapons charge. Others are awaiting trial for

02:13:49.960 being a felon in possession of a weapon. And there are 21 defendants currently on EM who are

02:13:56.600 charged with murder the chief judge acknowledged the numbers sound high

02:14:00.800 he acknowledged the numbers sound high oh well they're out there but it doesn't mean

02:14:08.780 they're committing crimes yes it does they committed the crime when they left with the

02:14:14.680 ankle monitor oh my god these are the the judges just another broken cog in the machine of of

02:14:31.260 supposed justice in this country and chicago the worst offenders of of having such a screwed up

02:14:46.140 judicial system that judge should have said yeah we're very concerned concerned well what does

02:14:56.060 the word concern really mean should we define the word before i say whether we should be

02:15:02.480 you have people criminals running around you don't know where they are you had them

02:15:10.640 you could have kept them but you let them go and they're out there yes the public should be concerned

02:15:19.780 there was a a person on an ankle monitor that went out and shot a cop

02:15:29.880 in chicago this is what happened and he's just like that doesn't necessarily there mean they're

02:15:38.760 committing crimes i guarantee they're committing crimes i would bet any amount of money that they

02:15:46.860 are indeed out there committing

02:15:48.820 crimes.

02:15:52.340 It's

02:15:53.060 everyone involved.

02:15:56.080 I'll tell

02:15:57.040 you, aside from maybe

02:15:59.060 the old school rank and file

02:16:01.080 police officers,

02:16:02.700 not the new batch

02:16:04.440 of women that

02:16:07.040 are as wide as they are tall.

02:16:10.040 Taser, taser,

02:16:11.060 taser, and they're firing their gun.

02:16:13.800 Not them.

02:16:14.740 old school cops

02:16:17.020 coming up on retirement

02:16:18.340 they're the only ones that

02:16:20.880 at some point in their career

02:16:22.660 wanted to do the right thing

02:16:24.020 the district

02:16:27.040 attorneys, the judges

02:16:29.080 the

02:16:30.460 brass in the police

02:16:32.940 department appointed by

02:16:34.480 Brandon Johnson

02:16:36.480 or Lori Lightfoot

02:16:39.060 they don't care

02:16:42.140 they have an agenda

02:16:44.320 and they make no qualms about showing what their agenda is we will not lock up people that are the

02:16:53.700 same color as us it seems to be it call me crazy call me racist call me whatever you want

02:17:00.640 but why aren't they taking care of these issues why wouldn't you want to lock up violent criminals

02:17:10.440 instead of giving them an unmonitored ankle monitor

02:17:14.760 and then just letting them work on the honor system.

02:17:19.720 Now, you promise you're going to stay home.

02:17:22.560 You're not going to do drugs.

02:17:24.560 You're not going to go get a hoe.

02:17:26.840 You're not going to clock someone over the head and steal their stuff.

02:17:30.940 All right, we believe you.

02:17:33.140 We trust you.

02:17:34.380 and and what continues to happen in chicago and a lot of these big democrat cities what continues

02:17:44.240 to happen crime crime crime the bodies pile up and all they talk about are these new programs

02:17:52.580 oh we're going to send social workers to this we're not pulling over people for minor infractions

02:18:00.640 because that would be terrible people would get arrested if they have guns on them that they're

02:18:07.360 not supposed to have or drugs on them they're got yeah no we can't do that why ah it would really

02:18:15.080 look bad for me because i'd be um you know my constituents are a lot like me if you know what

02:18:22.120 i mean and i can't really that's what's going on that's why it doesn't get better

02:18:27.340 and and chicago will just continue just like new york electing people that do not have your best

02:18:37.540 interest in mind if you're a criminal they have your best interest in mind if you're a a legal

02:18:45.260 law-abiding hard-working contributing member of society go screw they don't want they don't want

02:18:53.020 you safe they don't want uh to make sure you could take public transportation that you're

02:18:59.740 paying for get on the red line have a blast over there in chicago oh boy nope they they they will

02:19:10.560 not represent you they will not make sure you as their constituents that pay taxes do what you're

02:19:21.640 supposed to do you know the difference between right and wrong every everything that puts you

02:19:28.980 deeper into the category of a good citizen the less they'll do for you and the more they'll do

02:19:37.280 for the people that wish to do you harm it cannot be argued it's a big question as to why but i think

02:19:46.480 I spelt it out.

02:19:47.580 All right, back in a moment.

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02:20:06.520 The Anthony Cumia Show.

02:20:09.460 And, yeah, it just seems like a lot of these,

02:20:13.820 A lot of the powers that be in these these big blue cities, Democrat, liberal, socialist, communist, whatever you want to call it, just don't have your best interest in mind.

02:20:26.480 And you're the ones doing the work, giving the money.

02:20:31.060 And I don't know how they they have these agendas that aren't in your best interest.

02:20:39.720 And they keep getting elected over and over again.

02:20:42.840 this is frightening

02:20:45.600 remember the story about a week ago

02:20:48.480 there was a guy in Massachusetts

02:20:50.100 I think it was Cambridge

02:20:51.100 and he pulled

02:20:54.300 a rifle out and just started

02:20:56.180 randomly firing

02:20:57.640 on a street

02:20:59.880 in Massachusetts

02:21:00.860 and they arrested him

02:21:03.140 it turns out

02:21:06.360 he

02:21:07.440 was already

02:21:09.420 a felon

02:21:10.640 for shooting at cops before he had fired guns at police officers beforehand,

02:21:17.600 and they gave him five whole years for that.

02:21:23.780 Well, it turns out that when he was released for the last time,

02:21:29.500 before he decided to pick up a rifle and start firing it randomly in Massachusetts, Cambridge,

02:21:36.360 that the prosecutor the police everybody had told the judge that was on this case do not let this

02:21:48.380 guy go what are you doing he is a dangerous dangerous person it's only by the grace of god

02:21:55.760 he didn't kill somebody he was firing a gun randomly very easy to kill somebody that way

02:22:01.860 So the fact that he didn't kill anyone on this last outing doesn't make it any better.

02:22:07.760 He was firing a weapon in the streets randomly.

02:22:13.280 So listen to this judge, because this is your life she's weighing in the balance.

02:22:22.260 When she's talking and saying she's willing to take a chance,

02:22:27.300 that there's a chance she's taking on this convicted felon who was released from jail for

02:22:36.160 shooting at police officers. When she talks about a chance, what does she mean?

02:22:43.780 Let's listen to the clip first. AC3. Mr. Brown, I do realize I'm kind of taking a chance on you.

02:22:51.820 And, you know, when people stand up, experienced police officers, experienced probation officers,

02:23:00.060 and they tell me, this guy is a danger to the community, then I hear that.

02:23:08.460 And it gives me, I can't look into a crystal ball and figure out what's going to happen once you get out.

02:23:15.540 But I do understand that I am taking a risk here.

02:23:19.420 taking a risk taking a chance think about what you do when you take a chance let's uh go to uh

02:23:27.860 vegas or atlantic city i'm taking a chance i'm taking my money and i'm putting it up here to

02:23:33.960 bet and if i win i get double my money if i lose i uh get my money taken away and i don't have any

02:23:41.380 money there's taking a chance what is she taking a chance on if i win this guy doesn't commit any

02:23:51.020 more crimes against humanity if i lose someone pays some random citizen pays with their life

02:24:01.820 their money uh uh whatever else that they get ptsd for the rest of their life from being robbed or

02:24:10.280 raped? She's taking that chance? She thinks she has the right to bet the public safety

02:24:21.140 against the chance that this guy is going to stay all of a sudden stay on the straight

02:24:29.220 and narrow? How dare she? How the hell does she think she has the right to bet with the

02:24:37.920 Public safety.

02:24:39.500 It's no skin off her ass.

02:24:42.440 She doesn't have a stake in the game.

02:24:45.520 She doesn't get fired or jailed if this piece of garbage goes out and commits more crime

02:24:52.660 and hurts people.

02:24:54.920 What chance is she taking?

02:24:57.360 Oh, I'm taking a big chance.

02:24:58.660 No, you're making the public take a chance that someone's getting hurt or killed.

02:25:07.920 why what's in it for you put the guy away for as long as you can

02:25:16.920 if you can't let him go or you can lock him up lock him up

02:25:23.500 there's no upside to letting these monsters back out on the street no upside

02:25:32.040 and she's gonna well all right i'm gonna risk it what are you risking

02:25:40.220 i would love it if judges were held accountable so many people these days

02:25:46.300 are saying the same thing why are these judges that let these people go

02:25:50.780 and they they commit crime after crime until they murder someone then they're like well maybe we

02:25:59.260 should lock this guy up and they look into the past and they see a parade of judges just like

02:26:05.800 this woman uh willing to take the chance oh wow what a hero oh look at her she's willing to put

02:26:13.900 it all on the line you don't even get fired what other job can you screw up so badly that someone

02:26:22.660 dies and you don't even get fired what other job there ain't one i'll fill you in there ain't one

02:26:33.420 maybe actor if you're a alec baldwin because he could still act i guess but other than that

02:26:41.960 the nerve the nerve of these judges i'll take a chance i'll risk it no we're the ones having to

02:26:51.340 take the chance and risk it when you let these animals back out on the street oh my god all right

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