On this episode of the Red Apple Podcast Network's "The Anthony Cumia Show," host Tony Cumia talks about the Charlie Kirk Assassination, and the conspiracy theories surrounding it, and why we should be worried about instant information.
00:07:54.900so being in your little bubble really doesn't do you any justice in these situations it's uh
00:08:05.780you know the like i said that fog of war settles in and um you're you're absolutely going to
00:08:12.780gravitate toward the news that best suits your belief system and your agenda regardless of side
00:08:20.640I've done it. I've done it before. Not that like I'm saying I'm the litmus test. I'm so perfect that even I have done it. Yeah, I sounded a little pompous there for a second. But, you know, we do it. Let me I'll say it that way. We all do it. We want to be right. We want to have been right.
00:08:43.700You know, if something verifies what we've believed for so long, we love the idea of posting it and going, yes, see, I told you it's human nature.
00:08:56.980It would be fantastic if every person was devoid of emotions that attach you to stories that are aligned with your belief system.
00:09:40.200my first impression was I thought it was
00:09:43.460going to be the usual kind of somebody walked up with a pistol,
00:09:48.860took a pot shot from the crowd, hopefully missed or just wounded him
00:09:54.960with something that could have been treated.
00:10:00.480No one really thought we would see what we ended up seeing.
00:10:05.220And that's a whole other thing about the social media
00:10:11.700and the access to this instant information
00:10:15.200because it isn't only words and it isn't only pictures.
00:10:19.480It is HD video of stuff that, relatively speaking,
00:10:27.580a short time ago was just unavailable to people.
00:10:32.240You could go to certain websites back in the day,
00:10:38.260as i like to call it and see horrific things they were usually car wrecks um gore gore.com
00:10:48.240i think was one whatever it is but uh now you couldn't avoid watching this graphic execution
00:10:59.980of a man you just couldn't avoid it you were scrolling and just it was everywhere
00:11:10.020and uh that's another thing man that i don't know how healthy this could be for society
00:11:19.820and i'm on board with a few of the people that uh did say no we need to show this
00:11:26.620This needs to be made available to show and to see and let it settle in that this is happening.
00:11:35.900And these people are doing these horrific things to people that are just trying to exercise their First Amendment right, live their lives, they have their ideology.
00:11:46.540um but man if you're someone that wants to avoid actually seeing graphic violence i don't even know
00:11:56.260what you do go off the grid go down to baja california like i do get off your cell phones
00:12:06.120and talk to the indigenous people of baja california mexico well thank you jesse uh
00:12:15.400the body Ventura, but some people can't go off the grid.
00:12:21.740We, I don't know whether we chose to or not,
00:20:51.580And a lot of these people on the left that are gloating about the murder, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, are being doxed and fired from their jobs.
00:21:02.720And I tell you, I couldn't be happier.
00:30:14.020But, you know, the left sees that as being controversial.
00:30:20.780They see it as being a danger to their very existence.
00:30:24.860You know, you cannot talk about transgenderism unless you're in their little circle without them saying that you are a threat, an existential threat to their lives.1.00
00:30:41.280They are convinced that if you go on any media platform and dare say that children should not be mutilated0.96
00:30:56.340or pumped up with drugs to change their sexuality, that right there, by the way,
00:31:06.880truly believe that is a belief of the vast majority of americans that isn't some crazy
00:31:16.500right-wing extremist belief and thank god it's the belief of the majority of americans
00:31:24.860you should not mutilate children or or pump drugs into them for some sexual frankenstein
00:39:02.200And I'm doing everything I can to take care of that.
00:39:08.600I make sure I have my head on a swivel constantly.
00:39:14.960And I've turned down certain things that I just didn't think were secure enough.
00:39:21.560And I have myself armed and ready constantly.
00:39:26.360now there's not you can't do uh something about everything like that sniper that's very difficult
00:39:33.060that would have had been dealt with beforehand like we were just talking about preemptively
00:39:39.820securing the area same thing in butler pennsylvania with donald trump when he was campaigning
00:39:46.540how the hell was that guy allowed to get up on that rooftop
00:39:52.180and i'm just talking i'm not going into the conspiratorial things of it it wasn't him
00:39:58.980it was this it was massad it was the cia it was this i whatever i'm just going by the
00:40:06.360if it quacks like a duck it's a duck occam's razor and uh even with all that
00:40:13.980How the hell did the number one contender for president at the time before he was elected, Donald Trump, get up on a stage in front of a podium with a sniper on a rooftop well within range?
00:40:33.120how the hell did a sniper get up in front of charlie kirk and take him out knowing charlie
00:40:43.360is a controversial speaker he's had thousands of death threats had a security team and no one
00:40:50.660thought let's make sure those rooftops are secured after the trump thing especially
00:40:56.840You look at that and go, yeah, they were able to take a pot shot at the president and almost got him.
00:45:19.020She's our gal, Clown of the Week this week.
00:45:22.660And she, along with other Democrats, have this idea that whatever they say is not a call to violence, you know, because we were talking about the fact that the liberal Democrats, Democrats, liberal Democrat is redundant.
00:45:44.380uh they've been saying things that are terrible and villainizing people on the right to the point
00:45:51.300where their mental patient constituents want to go out and be the hero so they uh perpetrate0.57
00:45:59.020violence against people on the right but you talk to people like jasmine crockett and they don't
00:46:05.220I think anything they say conjures up this violence in their followers.
00:46:20.940We've got to talk about what it means when you're running for president
00:46:23.960or you're running for one of these higher offices
00:46:26.120and you go out there and you talk about beating people up.
00:46:28.400You go out there and you say things like,0.95
00:46:29.720I could shoot somebody in the middle of the street in New York and I could still win.0.54
00:46:33.740We've got to talk about like that. That is next level. Me disagreeing with you. Me calling you, you know, I want to be Hitler. All those things are like not necessarily saying go out and hurt somebody. But when you're literally telling people at rallies, yeah, beat them up and that kind of stuff, like you are promoting like a culture of violence. So we need to talk about like what it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.0.99
00:46:57.760she doesn't even understand she doesn't even understand when trump said i could shoot someone
00:47:04.120on fifth avenue and i they'd still vote for me uh that was a hyperbole that was him saying i'm so1.00
00:47:12.320popular that you politicians in washington the swamp you idiot you're so hated that i could do1.00
00:47:20.940something so repugnant like shooting someone on fifth avenue and i'd still get elected they always1.00
00:47:28.180want to take trump verbatim and never look into the trump isms that is his lifetime history of0.91
00:47:36.720making um god do i even have enough time let's try uh shootings are white supremacy that's uh
00:47:44.940the next clip let's listen to jasmine so we're not gonna talk about white supremacy like we're
00:47:49.820not going to talk about the fact that the vast majority of these shootings whether they are
00:47:55.940seen as political or not if we look at the numbers white supremacy ideology but we don't want to do
00:48:04.060anything about that there's no legislation that they want to bring every time you say white
00:48:08.020supremacy they want to yell oh you're race baiting no i am going on facts like these crimes when we
00:48:14.840look at these mass shootings most of them are linked to neo-nazism or you know proud boys or0.85
00:48:21.120whatever it's always some white supremacy kind of thing that's going on it's not black folk that0.55
00:48:27.360are going out there it's not immigrants that are going out there but what cities are we going into0.94
00:48:33.240black cities because we are supposedly the ones that commit all the crime which people are we
00:48:39.160going after immigrants because allegedly it's immigrants but we don't want to have a talk about
00:48:43.100what the numbers say, what the facts say,
00:48:45.220which is that we have a white supremacy problem
00:53:44.460general store they bought stuff gave their money and walked out with the goods and1.00
00:53:51.500not a cop was needed when all these white europeans were walking around0.97
00:53:59.860is that what jasmine crockett's saying that cops weren't needed until black people were brought
00:54:07.660over from africa i don't think she's doing her community any services by saying that police
00:54:14.560were invented for the sole purpose of rounding up black people that that before that white colonies
00:54:23.120the colonies here in america didn't even need police they were just so honest and lovely0.60
00:54:30.700uh people is that what you're saying jasmine i call her slavey crockett like davy crockett
00:54:42.140only different because all she talks about is uh slavery everything she talks about0.66
00:54:47.760has to dredge up slavery as the reason for all of the black community's ills so um once again0.97
00:54:56.700And there she is, our Clown of the Week.1.00
00:55:00.440We should have a crown for Clown of the Week just fitted for Jasmine.1.00
00:55:05.460Just permanently fitted for her dumb head.1.00
00:55:09.120Because she's been Clown of the Week before, and I guarantee you she will be Clown of the Week in the future.1.00
00:55:17.480But let's not let the runner-up off the hook so easily.
00:55:23.060I'm talking, of course, about Nancy Pelosi.
00:55:25.520There were a bunch of Democrats that came out this week and said that regardless or irregardless, irregardless of the situation, that irregardless or regardless of what they said,
00:55:43.780Dems cannot possibly have any responsibility in violence perpetrated against people on the right for nothing more than voicing their opinion, no matter what they say.
00:55:58.780So you got half of them saying, more than half of them saying, well, we got to tone down the rhetoric.
00:56:05.640We got to make sure that we're not inciting violence and speaking hate.
00:56:12.480And then Pelosi says, well, that's nice.
00:56:17.160But even if we do say horrible things about the right, whatever happens ain't us.
00:57:27.900You're whispering in their ear from every corner, mainstream media, boom, Hollywood, Washington, Madison Avenue, the fake news, all of it, all of it is whispering in their ears.1.00
01:07:08.960I don't think, hmm, let me rewind in my head a little bit before I say this, but I think, yeah, I think I could safely say this.
01:07:18.420I don't think any situation has truly shown the difference between good and evil in this country than the reaction to Charlie Kirk's assassination.
01:07:34.520I think we have seen unbelievable good and spirit.
01:07:40.720and and when you watch these people get together in uh these towns across the country
01:07:48.780and they hold hands and gather in front of their churches uh wherever their meeting place
01:07:56.740might be in these in these towns across the country and hold hands and and pray and sing
01:14:01.020All right. I'm listening the last four days. Just in the conservative media, I hear thoughts and prayers. I listen to tears. We need to tamp things down. But what I'm not hearing enough of in the conservative media is outrage and a call to arms.
01:14:19.500And let me be clear, I don't think we need civil war in the streets.
01:16:22.660The Justice Department working with the FBI is where a lot of this has to be going on.
01:16:29.440And that's why I'm starting to have doubts, just starting, about whether Bondi, Patel, and Bongino were up to it.
01:16:36.280The one thing about Matt Gaetz, and I realize he made a huge boneheaded move, taking out Kevin, but he was ready to go, buddy, balls to the wall.
01:16:45.260He was ready to go after all this, all right?
01:16:47.300We need a strong attorney general and people heading the FBI that are willing to go after this.
01:16:53.720It isn't going to be easy to unravel all this, but it's there.
01:16:56.740It's there if the investigatory bodies of the U.S. government do it.
01:17:13.680And as we go through the grieving process, what happens after?
01:17:20.480Do we just settle back down and do what we've done time and time again?
01:17:26.560Or are we more proactive and try to really make changes?
01:17:31.520I think, especially to what Steve was saying about the Justice Department and the FBI and people really doing something about rampant communists trying to overthrow our government and our country.
01:17:49.960Yeah, something's got to be done about that.
01:17:52.300And the people in charge and the people that would have to spearhead this can't be afraid.
01:20:24.920I think once the Soviet Union especially, but even the powers that be in the Soviet Union, once they understood there was no way that they were going to get some kind of a military victory over us or get a leverage or an advantage of all these communist freedom, democracy, communist proxy wars that were going on all over the globe.
01:20:53.700and they're just looking going this ain't gonna do it we need to get them we need to get inside
01:21:00.100we need to get into their schools that will take very very long comrade what do we do in the
01:21:08.700meantime we sit we do nothing we sit and wait for them to rot from the inside and that's exactly
01:21:19.760what's happening right now and and assassinations like we saw with charlie kirk are part of it
01:21:26.520they're part of it so you know take it for what it's worth but i don't believe they were fortune
01:21:35.760tellers i don't believe they were time travelers i believe they were communists that worked in the
01:21:41.540kgb during the days of the cold war soviet union and they knew damn well that plan that was in
01:21:50.460effect it would take generations but man is it paying off right now deny that try to try to deny
01:22:00.420that let's go to scott from the great state of virginia what's up scott hey and banger of a show
01:22:09.000tonight man thank you i'm full of uh piss and vinegar i think they call it what's up
01:22:13.980so you know as you know i'm a veteran i took very personally that thank you for your service0.57
01:22:20.880thank you for your service sir i was a navy seal a frogman in vietnam now i go to baja california
01:22:30.340to get off the grid anyway thanks jesse right on no i take it personally you know and as a free
01:22:40.000speech absolutist i felt that we had a pretty well written you know except the left has a reading
01:22:45.420problem a pretty well written guideline to free speech and i think right now they need to be
01:22:50.980squeezed and they need to feel because as you yourself was a very very much on the point of
01:22:56.280the spear of cancel culture um they wielded that like a you know orangutan with a you know a cam
01:23:03.600shaft on a stick they just wielded it with extreme violence now the only way that they're going to0.90
01:23:09.640understand this if they cannot be made to think they should be made to feel so they have to take
01:23:15.600their lumps until they they capitulate and cry for a law that says well somewhat verifying our
01:23:22.160first amendment that you cannot be fired dismissed whatsoever for personal health political beliefs
01:23:26.780period anybody no matter which way they lean left or right i.e. returning to the prior social
01:23:31.760contract in which we had where they can be leftist we can be rightist kind of like we grew up in the
01:23:36.200age of reason of the 70s and 80s you know the wonderful time period well i think uh scott i i
01:23:42.800do believe that the businesses and the owners of these businesses it's it seems pretty cyclical
01:23:49.440Because now it seems the business owners doing the firings are on the right.
01:24:24.000But they're on the other side of it right now, regardless if it's right or wrong or if it's truly an infringement on their free speech or not.
01:24:34.740They are seeing what it's like to be on the other side of cancel culture.
01:24:39.180And as a person, I enjoy seeing it.0.99
01:24:41.680But as a free speech absolutist, I'm still a little on the fence wondering if this is a good thing or not, because it'll come back eventually and we'll get bitten in the ass for it.0.98
01:24:56.980I say let's mutually agree to wrap this up and, you know, re-enshrine that First Amendment.
01:25:02.620And you cannot be fired from your workplace for expressing an opinion of any political stripe.
01:25:08.040And we just go back. That's the way it is.
01:25:10.580You know, we used to just agree on that and think like without any law, have anybody be put in place.
01:25:18.760We used to just agree on the fact that we're going to have different opinions and let's not massacre each other because we have different opinions.
01:25:27.660Now we would need to put some type of legislation in place that says a company can't fire you because of your ideology.
01:25:35.640I don't like the idea that we would have to do that.
01:25:39.180I would like to be in a place where we understand.
01:26:08.740i just love the way john says fake news and he goes fake stories um this uh fake news segment
01:26:16.960uh is jb pritzer this is your governor your rotund governor of illinois illinois is pretty much
01:26:29.200all we really hear from illinois is chicago it's like new york new york is a pretty red state
01:26:37.180But we only hear about New York City and Hochul and Adams.0.89
01:26:45.780But Illinois is another one of these states that a lot of people in Illinois don't like Pritzer and their dumb mayor Brandon Johnson in Chicago.0.92
01:27:19.360He insists that Donald J. Trump is the one that is defunding the police department.0.96
01:27:28.760Now, we we have been through years of watching liberal Democrats crying to defund the police after the the the George Floyd debacle and even the Mike Brown nonsense and all this crap.0.67
01:27:49.960All we heard from the Democrats was, oh, we we need to defund the police.0.96
01:27:57.740They all joined the protesters and said it.
01:28:00.900And now that defund the police is out of fashion because the Democrats, their take now is to fake that they're about stopping crime.
01:28:12.640They're all about making the city safer.
01:28:15.800Because under their defund the police and getting rid of bail and all that Democrat nonsense, the cities have become war zones, murder, rape, robbery, assaults.
01:28:30.480It is it is a terror to go into a major city in this country.
01:28:37.420So now they don't want to sound like they wanted to defund the police.
01:28:41.440That means unsafe cities and they won't take responsibility for that, even though they're 100 percent responsible for the the carnage going on in our major cities.
01:28:52.900So here's J.B. Pritzer, big fat J.B. Pritzer, talking about defunding the police and saying that Donald Trump is all about defunding police.0.98
01:30:41.920And they cut it and then hopefully put it back in place as as money to to programs that really cut crime, not these garbage, Democrat, feel good, nonsensical, do nothing programs.0.89
01:30:59.680and he says that's what Donald Trump has done defund police no defunding the wasted money
01:31:11.860the waste that goes into these programs that do nothing to fight crime they actually
01:31:21.360let criminals off the hook it's like the border patrol thing remember Biden was always talking
01:31:28.540about we have bipartisan bill they didn't want to sign trump said no don't sign so he could look
01:31:34.440good at the bipartisan bill on bordered they don't want that was all about a huge amount of money
01:31:42.100going to judges and lawyers and what have you and even border patrol agents but not to
01:31:50.280arrest and deport them but to bring them in and fill out the paperwork so they could be deposited
01:31:58.780in springfield ohio and all the other little cities around the united states it had nothing
01:32:06.440to do with stopping the invasion of illegals coming into this country and they said oh trump
01:32:14.420stop the great bipartisan bill this is the same thing oh he defunded the police in illinois yeah
01:32:21.840defunded the ridiculous programs that would have done nothing to quell crime in in the the
01:32:29.160unbelievably dangerous city of chicago right now and we'll get to that and and uh the mayor
01:33:06.840And just scrolling through X during the break, Black Lives Matter activist Monica Cannon Grant has pleaded guilty to 27 counts of fraud.0.88
01:33:22.900if people don't see what a a criminal enterprise what a grift black lives matter was over the0.90
01:33:37.200course of the years i mean obviously they uh were born out of mike brown the hands up don't shoot0.95
01:33:45.580lie, the George Floyd drug-addled violent criminal that unfortunately perished from
01:33:56.080a drug overdose while in custody of a police officer, and that officer is now paying with0.97
01:34:02.180his life in prison, and we see now that the whole thing, all of the leadership of Black
02:09:21.500But right now, the top 1% earners in the city pay 40% of the city's income taxes, according
02:09:29.980to the empire center for public policy how do you bring these wealthy residents to the table
02:09:36.020as mayor stop them from saying they're leaving going to florida because we need that tax revenue
02:09:42.460to pay for some of the things you're talking about how do you pay for it if they're gone
02:09:46.660well the first thing i have to say is i was proud to be the only candidate for mayor at that march
02:09:51.080and i was proud because some of the chance at that march they were asking is the dream alive
02:09:56.760is is dr king's dream still alive and he asked the question decades ago what good is having the
02:10:02.760right to sit at a lunch counter if you can't afford to buy a hamburger right that's a question
02:10:06.540that new yorkers are still wrestling with today in 2025 and so what i have put forward is a vision
02:10:12.720to make the most expensive city in the united states of america affordable at a time when we
02:10:17.200have the wealthiest city it is also one where one in four are living in poverty and to your point
02:10:22.240we have a number of new yorkers who are doing quite well the top one percent of new york city
02:10:28.180earns a million dollars or more a year and my vision is not one where they leave it is one
02:10:33.320where they stay how in part by showing them that asking them to pay more in taxes would increase
02:10:40.000even their quality of life because when you ask new yorkers what is it that is making them feel
02:10:45.180uneasy in this city you often hear from them about the cleanliness of our city the safety of our city
02:10:50.620the affordability of our city. We are not asking to raise these taxes for the sake of it.
02:10:54.840We're asking so that we can actually make the slowest buses in the country fast and free,
02:10:59.060so that we can actually create a department of community safety that would deploy dedicated
02:11:04.540teams of mental health outreach workers to the top 100 stations of the highest levels of mental
02:11:08.880health crises and homelessness. That relationship proving that that tax dollar leads to that
02:11:14.440investment, because we know that it's not just a fiscal policy that takes somebody from New York
02:11:18.960city to somewhere else because a lot of new yorkers if they leave they go to california
02:11:22.900another high-tech state they go to new jersey another high-tech state many people say they
02:11:27.020might go to florida but i have seen and heard from many new yorkers concern about this new
02:11:32.260elimination of vaccine mandates in florida that makes them question where they would ever want
02:11:36.720to live there sure sure that there was so much going on there but i really what i want you to
02:11:45.360take away from that is Reverend Al asks Mayor Mamdani, what are you going to do to keep the
02:11:54.140wealthiest of New Yorkers, the ones that pay 41% of the taxes to New York City? What will you do
02:12:02.600to keep them, to bring them to the table? You're going out there and you're campaigning to low
02:12:10.140income people and people that uh need government assistance but what about the people that pay the
02:12:18.820bills how are you going to keep them his answer was tax them more they will love it if i tax them
02:12:29.160more he said that they want to be taxed more to make the city better instead of using
02:12:39.880They're already unbelievably high taxes to somehow get New York City in some semblance of organization and not not spending more than you're taking in.
02:12:53.860And he just says, I'm going to tax them more, Reverend Al.
02:12:58.760And that, that, my friend, is my cunning way to bring the wealthy to the table and keep them in New York City, to take away more of their wealth and give it to freeloaders, bums, programs for criminals, free buses so mental patients can assault you on buses as well as subways.
02:23:24.800Right. But, you know, listen, people in New York City, they say that the Labor Day is the borderline, is the crossover line to the start of the campaign.
02:23:36.740There's not much time here now. No, no. Go online.
02:23:40.740Listen, people, go online. If you like Curtis, Google Curtis, find out where his campaign headquarters are.
02:23:48.380Go there. Volunteer. Do something. Hand our palm cards. Knock on doors. Do something.
02:23:53.900anything i just i feel like i feel like we're going down the tubes quickly very quickly and
02:24:01.500it seems to be a a metastasis like a cancer metastasizing look what in chicago what you
02:24:07.000were talking about before yep god bless this city uh and god bless my cops uh you know and you
02:24:14.200good for you larry i i love it you know i love your uh your take on these things and and you
02:24:20.260know you were in it you know it you see what's going on and i appreciate the call larry larry's
02:24:25.880a good guy hey i can only get to one of them so we're gonna go with rosie here's the latest rosie0.97
02:24:32.000trump rant let's uh let's listen to the bloated uh sores all over her mouth god knows what she's1.00
02:24:40.120been doing rosie o'donnell on donald trump yeah listen she sounds child abuse is a serious thing1.00