The Anthony Cumia Show - January 12, 2026


The ＂Just Dropped The Kids Off＂ Defense ｜ 01-11-26

Topics
law enforcement accountability
Hosted by
Anthony Cumia
Mentioned
Renee Nicole Good Border Patrol
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Episode Stats


Length

14 minutes

Words per minute

126.19

Word count

1,791

Sentence count

70

Harmful content

Misogyny

10

sentences flagged

Toxicity

14

sentences flagged

Hate speech

1

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Summary

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On this episode of the WABC News Minicast, host Anthony Cumming talks about the recent shooting of a woman by the Border Patrol, and why he thinks we should have a daily show about it. Plus, FanDuel introduces a new feature that keeps your bet alive until the final whistle on the biggest stage in the world.

Transcript

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00:01:04.000 Okay, then we're looking at it.
00:01:05.300 This is the 77 WABC
00:01:08.340 Minicast.
00:01:11.120 You know,
00:01:11.700 I am definitely
00:01:14.100 going to need
00:01:15.420 a daily show here.
00:01:20.160 It's just
00:01:20.920 Sunday, you know, a week ago,
00:01:23.580 Sunday I get done with doing the Anthony Cumia show great time great calls and the subject matter
00:01:34.320 and then like an hour after I am done with the show all hell breaks loose and I gotta wait a week
00:01:43.320 a week to come back and talk about it with you fine people so uh yeah I think I'm gonna need
00:01:50.980 a daily show talk to the boss i'm gonna have to talk to the boss about that one because now we're
00:01:56.600 talking about you know i mean honestly was the venezuelan bombing like a week ago i don't even
00:02:03.400 know anymore i don't know what i'm an expert at this week venezuelan uh politics uh the the uh
00:02:14.120 ICE, maybe ICE, and Border Patrol laws, and what regulations they must adhere to.
00:02:23.800 That looks like what we got now, though.
00:02:26.140 That's what everyone's an expert at.
00:02:28.380 What cops need to do, or not do, when their lives are seemingly being threatened by protesters. 1.00
00:02:39.820 Or, depending on who you talk to, just some woman trying to just drop their kids off at school. 0.99
00:02:47.640 A saint. 1.00
00:02:48.840 A saint on earth.
00:02:51.620 And look, I'm not going to speak ill of the dead.
00:02:56.340 But, but, there's the big but in there.
00:02:59.820 You know, everyone says that when you say something and then go but, you could just throw away what they said beforehand.
00:03:06.560 Perhaps, perhaps.
00:03:07.940 Renee Nicole Good, she is the woman that was dispatched by ICE during one of these ridiculous protests that are going on. 0.99
00:03:22.860 This is so stupid of these people to go out and and directly interfere with the job of these federal officers. 0.99
00:03:39.380 And she paid what they call the ultimate price with her life. 1.00
00:03:46.440 And, you know, there's stories that both sides have.
00:03:51.500 And you know what I'm talking about when we say sides.
00:03:53.500 This country is so divided, it doesn't even resemble a united country anymore.
00:04:02.580 So depending on what side you talk to, she was the greatest thing, the sweetest woman,
00:04:09.280 just driving her kids to school, and she must have made a wrong turn, got caught up in this melee. 0.99
00:04:18.720 and Border Patrol came over and just summarily executed her
00:04:24.020 as she was on her phone saying hi to her kids or something.
00:04:30.800 And the other side is she's a domestic terrorist 1.00
00:04:34.920 with fangs and blood dripping from her teeth 1.00
00:04:39.460 and she got the car up to about 160 miles an hour 0.99
00:04:45.060 before she slammed into an entire group of law enforcement.
00:04:54.160 The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
00:04:57.780 And people know me.
00:04:59.740 If you've listened to the show, you know me personally,
00:05:01.660 you've listened to whatever iterations of the Anthony Cumia show over the course of the years,
00:05:05.820 you'll know I am a very strong supporter of law enforcement in this country.
00:05:12.540 I have many cops that are friends.
00:05:15.940 And I always talk about how the laws that the police are enforcing,
00:05:26.020 these are people that we have said, hey, here are the set of laws.
00:05:32.200 Now you're the people that have to go out and make sure that people are obeying those laws.
00:05:37.640 And even the legislation of those laws have been agreed upon.
00:05:42.800 Sometimes we don't like some of them.
00:05:44.540 sometimes we are uh very strongly in favor of some of them but our system here in this country
00:05:52.800 is that we as the people let our representatives know what we want done what we want them to
00:06:02.460 legislate and they do it and sometimes it doesn't turn out quite right but this is the system
00:06:10.420 we have all agreed upon the system that this country that everyone presumes to say is is
00:06:19.280 amazing greatest country in the world those are the very rules that keep it together we agreed
00:06:28.140 that there are certain laws and rules that we must abide by and then there are people entrusted
00:06:37.300 with enforcing those laws and rules the police law enforcement the DEA ICE the border patrol
00:06:45.700 all of the different law agencies state local police
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00:07:47.980 and and if something need be changed well then we need to go to legislators and change that because
00:07:58.720 that's how our country works when people don't obey those laws
00:08:06.000 and they directly interfere with the job of the people we've entrusted to enforce
00:08:13.280 those laws they need to be held accountable they need consequence in their lives
00:08:21.780 this is what we agreed on this is the way america works right i don't like some of the things
00:08:33.220 i know we've somehow all agreed that you should not be able to take your car and do a hundred
00:08:41.380 miles an hour down the roadway it's dangerous to you to other people and we agreed to it
00:08:50.160 But when you get pulled over, I'm talking about a friend of mine.
00:08:56.360 When you're in your Jaguar and you get pulled over for doing 110 in a 55, you're not celebrating.
00:09:08.720 That's not a fun, good day.
00:09:12.600 And you know what you did.
00:09:14.620 You know you disobeyed the rules that we agreed upon.
00:09:21.700 And there are going to be consequences.
00:09:26.460 And that's called being a citizen, someone that could work within a society of people.
00:09:37.560 We don't have to like it.
00:09:39.300 We don't agree with every law.
00:09:41.200 But we've agreed to this system.
00:09:42.940 so when you have these people going out and interfering with law enforcement they need to
00:09:50.500 be held accountable now what is that accountability being shot in the face three times i don't think
00:09:57.100 that's the rule of thumb here but if things get to a certain point that could happen it's a risk
00:10:06.080 when you when you enter into this realm of disobeying the laws regardless of what those
00:10:14.920 laws are could be shoplifting when you interfere with the people we have appointed 0.98
00:10:22.500 to to enforce those laws you might get a ticket you might get three bullets in your face
00:10:29.980 you're taking that risk there's no guarantee that your actions won't result in the unbelievable
00:10:39.120 ultimate consequence when you put your toe into the world of disobeying the law and working
00:10:48.000 outside the system that we have agreed to so when Renee Nicole Good decided to block the road
00:10:57.440 and would not allow ICE agents to do their job, 1.00
00:11:04.360 you would think, well, she's blocking the road. 0.99
00:11:07.520 Let's say you blocked the road for some reason.
00:11:10.300 You're unloading something from your car,
00:11:12.520 and it's just going to be a minute, and you block the street. 1.00
00:11:15.440 Do you deserve three bullets in the face? 1.00
00:11:17.380 Probably not. Probably not. 1.00
00:11:21.180 If you escalated things when a law enforcement officer turns up, 0.74
00:11:26.820 do you deserve three bullets in the face still probably not but 0.71
00:11:30.540 you're getting closer you're certainly getting a little closer 0.98
00:11:35.800 and if you bring it to fruition when you you uh break the law you disobey law enforcement
00:11:46.380 you don't obey their lawful order she was told to exit the vehicle you're under arrest at that
00:11:53.520 point get out of the vehicle law enforcement is allowed to ask anyone in their car on the roadway
00:12:00.940 when they are approached and stopped by those police officers to exit the vehicle they don't
00:12:06.740 even need to tell you why at that moment pennsylvania versus mims look it up and uh she decided
00:12:16.840 in that moment a giant crossroad in her life one is a an immediate dead end and the other one 0.84
00:12:25.800 an arrest probably released on her own recognizance no real penalty or three bullets in your face
00:12:34.780 because you decided to put your car in gear step on the gas put it in drive and accelerate toward
00:12:45.220 a law enforcement officer you then got three bullets in your face is that something that's 0.98
00:12:52.660 justified man now you're really now you are really almost begging for three bullets in your face
00:13:00.860 at that point you see escalation things how that that uh changes something as simple as well she's
00:13:10.300 blocking the road well she just dropped their kids off well she's a great woman she's beloved
00:13:15.820 between that and oh my god she's attempting to kill a law enforcement officer who then
00:13:25.920 acted in self-defense do you see how you could almost make two sides to that story depending on
00:13:33.320 how you look at it where in time you're you're choosing to pick and choose what was happening
00:13:40.000 right when she stopped the vehicle when she was blocking the road did she deserve it all the way
00:13:46.000 up all the way up till accelerating toward a law enforcement officer any instance in there
00:13:53.280 might not justify what that officer did right up until that bumper hit him then you made your own
00:14:02.940 bed lady i i i feel sorry for the family and all that but this was all all on her