The Anthony Cumia Show - June 09, 2026


The Karmelo Anthony Murder Trial ｜ 06-07-26


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11 minutes

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1,561

Sentence count

78

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00:01:44.580 the Carmelo Anthony murder trial going on down there in Frisco, Texas.
00:01:52.580 And it is heated, man.
00:01:55.500 It is heated.
00:01:56.420 The social media platforms are just full of people that are very divided on this.
00:02:04.440 A lot of people know the story.
00:02:06.380 I just, before the break, did a quick summary of what had happened.
00:02:11.780 And from the looks of a lot of people on social media and some of the people even on television, on news programs, they don't seem to understand there is a big difference between being insulted and murdering someone and using a weapon to defend your life because at that moment you feel your life was being threatened.
00:02:39.760 It was imminent in imminent danger of being taken.
00:02:45.260 That is what self-defense is.
00:02:48.740 It isn't about someone telling you to get up.
00:02:53.000 It isn't about someone putting their hand on your shoulder. 0.88
00:02:56.860 It isn't even about someone if they would have dropped the N-bomb and punched him in the face. 0.71
00:03:05.400 It doesn't even cover that. 0.98
00:03:07.760 you have to feel that your life is in imminent danger of being taken you are ready to be killed
00:03:16.840 then self-defense is a case and i've seen a lot of people that don't seem to understand that
00:03:23.400 they're trying to make um they're they're trying to uh compare it to uh cases like george zimmerman
00:03:32.840 and Trayvon Martin well Trayvon was unarmed and uh George Zimmerman was an armed man
00:03:41.880 and he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense he actually won that case and was acquitted of
00:03:49.400 murder uh I see that trial that case coming up now and a lot of people that want to compare it
00:03:55.120 to this case. They are not comparable. There was some type of verbal altercation between Trayvon
00:04:06.360 and George Zimmerman. Trayvon escalated it to a physical altercation. He was punching George
00:04:15.600 Zimmerman in the face and beating his head against the cement sidewalk. George Zimmerman had pictures
00:04:21.580 of wounds on his head his nose was broken george zimmerman uh had said that he felt he was ready
00:04:31.000 to go unconscious unconscious he had a gun he thought that gun can be used against me this guy
00:04:41.360 wants to kill me he's beating my head against cement that was what that case was and uh the
00:04:48.420 jury decided yeah george zimmerman had enough reasonable he could reasonably assume that if
00:04:57.880 this were to continue he wouldn't live through it if you can reasonably assume convince a jury
00:05:04.420 all the testimony the witnesses the evidence and that jury goes oh yeah if i was in that position
00:05:12.580 I would absolutely feel like my life was being threatened
00:05:16.800 and I would have to do something even to the point of using deadly physical force.
00:05:22.620 And the jury agreed in the George Zimmerman case.
00:05:26.340 Would you agree, based on the evidence we've seen so far,
00:05:30.760 and I know we still have the defense's case coming up,
00:05:34.120 but again, if they can't come up with something extraordinary,
00:05:38.040 this doesn't look like much more than
00:05:41.040 Carmelo Anthony was insulted
00:05:43.520 he did not want to leave the tent
00:05:46.360 when people told him to leave
00:05:48.660 he felt he was disrespected
00:05:51.620 and when the slightest
00:05:54.020 touch was put on him
00:05:59.340 a hand on his shoulder
00:06:00.860 as many witnesses testified
00:06:02.960 he decided to kill 0.63
00:06:05.440 the person that was touching him
00:06:07.380 Now, do you think that defense is going to be able to convince the jury
00:06:13.580 that if they were in that position, they would have done the same thing?
00:06:18.640 Every jury member sitting there would go, 0.99
00:06:22.520 yeah, that sounds like a situation where I would have to kill somebody.
00:06:26.100 I would have to take a life because my life was in imminent danger of being taken.
00:06:31.780 I don't think so.
00:06:32.860 I don't think any reasonable person would feel that that situation merits killing another person.
00:06:44.340 So, you know, like I said, that defense has their work cut out for them.
00:06:48.960 Really does.
00:06:50.640 Another little point of contention is the jury.
00:06:55.120 when the jury was chosen last week uh they there was not one black person on the jury
00:07:03.640 and look you you have the right the prosecution and the defense has the right to exempt certain
00:07:12.700 people from the jury they have a certain number of challenges that they can make against certain
00:07:22.780 jurors so if someone comes up and you ask a question have you ever been the victim of
00:07:28.580 this type of crime and it's a crime that's similar to what had happened the case that
00:07:33.800 you're working on i don't think the defense attorney would like to have somebody on the
00:07:40.140 jury that has been through the same thing they might have some bias in their head and go yeah
00:07:48.000 I definitely would vote guilty because I've been through that and screw this guy. 0.87
00:07:54.440 So it seems that a couple of the jurors of color, black and brown people that got up, 0.83
00:08:02.020 had said certain things to the effect of he looks too young.
00:08:06.320 One guy actually said, I couldn't imagine putting a brother behind bars.
00:08:11.120 This is why people were refused from the jury.
00:08:18.000 by the prosecution i'm sure the defense probably wanted as many people of color on the jury as
00:08:25.900 possible but i guess they ran out if the prosecution would have run out of challenges
00:08:31.760 before they ran out of black potential jurors i think they would have seen a black juror on there
00:08:37.180 but uh it didn't happen so how important is this well i tend to believe from what i've seen this
00:08:46.760 is my own opinion that black jurors feel more compelled to vote based on race in some way
00:08:59.580 shape or form in the case that they might take that into consideration in lieu of evidence
00:09:08.260 testimony it's just what i've seen the oj trial you know if you don't agree with me that's fine
00:09:14.860 call up give me some instances where that did not happen that's fine and dandy i will listen
00:09:22.120 to anything i have to say but from what i've seen over the course of the years
00:09:26.800 and the oj trial we saw witnesses or uh jurors come forward and say oh yeah we voted not guilty
00:09:35.060 because of what had happened with the police and rodney king and the riots that's a racially
00:09:42.960 motivated vote that the jury at least a few members of the jury gave and there is actually
00:09:51.800 a statistic about white jurors on a case that as opposed to black jurors on a case when the
00:10:01.060 defendant is black or white and white jurors have a much more consistent rate of acquittals
00:10:08.660 and convictions over whether the defendant is black or white than black jurors do.
00:10:16.840 Their decisions show that they acquit black people at a higher rate
00:10:22.380 than white people would over a number of cases. 0.58
00:10:29.600 So, hey, it happens.
00:10:32.300 It happens.
00:10:33.400 It's part of the world we live in.
00:10:36.660 So that's a point of contention, that there aren't any black jurors on this trial.
00:10:43.380 And I'm sure if he's convicted, they're going to use that as a topic, a reason for an appeal.
00:10:53.000 That they didn't have a fair jury because there were no people of color on the jury. 0.99
00:10:58.180 So, I mean, it could work in his favor. 0.98
00:11:01.780 They will get an appeal. It'll happen.
00:11:03.920 All right, your calls, a lot more.
00:11:06.740 You've got to take another quick break, but this is heating up.
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