#152: The School of Greatness
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Summary
In this episode of the Art of Manliness podcast, we discuss the School of Greatness and what it means to live a flourishing life, and how to do it all right. In this episode, we are joined by an old friend of mine, a guy named Wisewis house, who is the host of the podcast, "The School Of Greatness" where he interviews influencers and thinkers who have insights on how to lead a more flourishing life. He has recently released a book by the same title, "School of Gratitude" that talks about some of the insights he has gleamed over the past two years of doing this podcast.
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we're at mckay here and welcome to another edition of the art of manliness podcast so there's a guy's
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name lewis house some of you probably listen to his podcast but he's got an interesting story
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uh he had aspirations to be a professional football player and he was making it happen
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for himself uh starting off with the canadian football league and some of the minor league
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football teams here in the states but then he had an injury that ended his career and he ended up on
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his sister's couch for a year broke no money and just completely in a funk uh and then he started
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uh sometimes he started a business online and uh it was a big success and then he went on to other
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things uh it started a podcast where his goal was just to interview influencers thinkers who uh had
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insights on how to live a more flourishing life it's called the school of greatness and recently
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lewis just released a book by the same title school of greatness where he talks about some of the
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insights that he he's gleamed over the two years of doing this podcast so today on the podcast lewis
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and i discussed the school of greatness and what it means to live a flourishing life and how to do it
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all right lewis house welcome to the show thanks brad appreciate it man all right so before we get
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started let's get a little background on you uh you have a podcast school of greatness i know there's
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a couple of our i know a lot of our readers listen to it got a book coming out school of greatness as
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well but what did you do before you had a podcast where you're interviewing influencers and people who
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are doing awesome things what were you doing before with your life i was uh in my early adulthood i was
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chasing my dream to be a pro athlete so i played arena football for a season down in alabama and
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in columbus ohio as well and got it got injured during the season had to have a surgery on my wrist
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where i broke my broke my wrist and then was in a full arm cast for six months and it was at that time
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where it was a huge transition point in my life you know my whole childhood i grew up thinking i was
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going to be this pro athlete and now it's all i'm going to do i had no backup plan i wasn't really
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good in school um so i put my energy into after school activities like sports and i was sleeping
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on my sister's couch after i had this surgery because i didn't have any money i didn't have
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anywhere to stay so i was there for about a year and a half sleeping on her couch recovering and it
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was a six month cast recovery time and it was extremely depressing and just it was just a lot
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of uncertainty at this point in my life i was around 23 24 and i had no clue what was next
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um but luckily i i read a book over christmas break in 2007 that changed my life it was a four
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hour work week which i'm i know you know tim and i remember reading this book thinking i had no clue
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this stuff was even possible that you could do this stuff online that you could build a business i
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didn't know anything about entrepreneurship and it opened me up to a whole world of possibilities
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so for the next four or five years i worked like a man on a mission to figure this stuff out and
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figure out how to build something and marketing and branding and networking and public speaking and i
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took classes on everything and ended up building an online business where i was creating educational
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courses originally about linkedin and then other social media trainings sold that company and was in
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another transition phase of my life trying to figure out what i wanted to do and that's how the school
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of greatness was born awesome yeah i first heard about you with the linkedin thing i just knew you
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as the linkedin guy yep that was it i was hustling hard on that you're hustling hard at it before like
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before it was like really big yeah i got in there yep okay so let's let's talk about this uh this school
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of greatness thing all right it's called the school of greatness that greatness gets thrown out
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thrown around a lot people are like talking about i'm gonna live a great life here's your great
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life now blah blah blah uh how do you define greatness in your book in your podcast yeah you
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know it's interesting because i'm always curious what other people think it means to them and their
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definition that's what i ask at the end of my every episode yeah you ask me that question yeah and
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it's it's great to see the responses you know it's a wide range of responses and i think greatness is uh
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different for all of us but for me right now greatness is discovering and making the most of
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the gifts and the talents you are born with to pursue whatever dreams you have in your life and
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then with that making the biggest impact on the maximum amount of people in the world through living
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your dreams nice you know that sounds a lot a lot like the greek concept of eudaimonia or it's me it
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means flourishing right it's like well a lot of people translate it as happiness but i like
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flourishing is a better translation it's just like living your best life possible that's it
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right okay i like it greatness is eudaimonia yeah there you go and it's different for everyone you
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know for the mom who's got two kids it may just be like i want to live a great family life and support
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my husband and also build something on the side you know and then for the the college kid it may be
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i want to build a billion dollar company and change the world it's different for everyone but it
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doesn't have to look the same doesn't have to look the same all right so in in your book you you sort of
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lay out steps to uh developing you we'll say greatness or eudaimonia um your first step was
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having a vision for your life i'm a big believer in like having a life plan and all that things but
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what is the process that you use to create a vision for your life and your business etc i think it's i think
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it starts off in the most basic way and it starts off with doing the things we used to do we were
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five six seven years old which is literally playing in the playground dreaming of what we want to do
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when we grow up and it may sound lame or or or we should yeah it may sound weird but literally i don't
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think we dream enough as adults i don't think we take the time to go sit in nature alone with no
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computer no laptop uh or phone or anything and literally lay there and dream what a perfect day
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could look like for us if we could have anything and do anything because i truly believe we are the
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authors of our life if we want to be what do we want to create what's the story we want to tell
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and we don't do that enough in general the people that i'm connected to they're always
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busy-minded as opposed to calm and dreaming minded so what i tell people is to do an exercise that i
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have it's called the perfect day exercise and with this literally go in nature for an hour it may be
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one of the hardest things you ever do because you're so connected to your phone and thinking of
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the things you want to do but go into nature for an hour no one else take up a piece of paper or a
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notepad and and a pen and sit there and dream about all the things that you desire all the things
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you desire for your relationships your health your life the impact you want to have your family
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the the type of things you want to be working on where you want to be traveling and then i want you
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to write down like a creative writing uh exercise write down the moment you wake up to the moment you go
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to bed what a perfect day could look like for you it's just about dreaming and visualizing it
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so you can actually see it in your mind write it down it could be you know i wake up in the morning
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in my king-size bed looking over the ocean smiling because i'm sleeping next to the woman of my dreams
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and i can't believe she's with me it could start off like that and then walk through the rest of your
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day what are you doing where are you going what are you experiencing what are you feeling
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everything from there you've got kind of a map a mind map of how you want to live your life if it
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was the ultimate life you could have to start seeing yourself living it after that there's a
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second part of this exercise where i have people take out another piece of paper and when i was did
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you play football back in high school of course i grew up in oklahoma it's a religion here yeah so i
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don't know if they had this in your high school but for me when i went to college they really
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incorporated this uh every day i would go to practice i would show up in my locker would have
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a piece of paper just hanging in my locker that was the itinerary for the day the day's practice
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and it was so structured down to every minute of what we were doing when we were drinking water to
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what warm-ups were going to be to the drills we were running it told us everything we were going to do
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that day and the coaches didn't just say okay guys show up at the uh the field at 330 and we'll see
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what we create today it wasn't like that it was very structured and organized to in order for us to
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get everything we've done we needed to to achieve our vision for that game that coming up that season
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whatever it may be so i want you to create an itinerary for your day from the moment you wake up
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at 8 a.m 8 30 9 o'clock whatever it may be all the way till 11 o'clock or midnight whenever you go to
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sleep and write down all the steps you're going to take action towards that fit into that dream you
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have and create an itinerary for yourself now your perfect day if it was the same thing every day it'd
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get old it'd be boring so it's going to shift and evolve and change but you want to start creating
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it now so you can start living that and start being in it you know if we went out to play sports and
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just said okay guys let's just show up and see what we can create it would probably be a lot more
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chaotic and it wouldn't be as purposeful or intentional so i want you to do that first
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exercise because i think it could be very powerful for you yeah yeah i mean i when i i remember doing
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that in sports my my coaches would have like this they didn't give us the schedule but i know they
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had their schedule and it was just like right we're moving on to you know defense now we're moving
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on to special teams like there was no dilly dally it's like okay what's we're doing now yes um and
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speaking of the itinerary one thing that i did i i this helped me out immensely when i was in law
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school actually i i my goal was i wanted to be the best right my class yes and so like i created this
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schedule for me and it was like it was a spreadsheet on an excel it was the same thing every day it was
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an itinerary down to the minute um and i followed it for three years and it just like it it was a it was
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a drag it was a grind sometimes but it worked it does man it worked i'll tell you what you know i
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just interviewed a guy named john maxwell who's a big leadership author oh yeah john c maxwell yeah
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john c maxwell sold 25 million copies of his book speaks to millions of people around the world
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and he was like you know people ask me the the key to success in business or life or whatever it may
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be he said you don't have to be perfect every day you just have to give your best and be really
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really good every single day and do it for years do it for years consistently and he said the the
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compounding effect over time is unbelievable and if you do just a good job every single day and give
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your best over years you're going to be really successful if you continue to be consistent so
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yeah it's that you were consistent for three years it was a grind you probably want your you
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probably weren't perfect every day but you showed up every day doing your best yeah the same with
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like fitness too i thought a lot of guys people like that you know it's like why am i seeing any
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progress it's like well have you stuck to the same program and the same diet for more than two months
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yeah exactly or no you take or to check four cheat days this week yeah and you know expect to be the
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same so at a carbo reload right exactly yeah well here's a question i have about vision because i'm a
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big proponent of this but i i've run into this problem right and this it's this right is how do you
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avoid what some cognitive psychologists called miswanting so like you think you know you think
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you know you want something and you work really hard years to get it and then you get it and you
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end up like i don't like this this is terrible here's a perfect example like law school like i thought i
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wanted to be a lawyer since i was in high school so i busted my chops to get into law school work really
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hard in law school then i find come to find like i i started when i started interning at firms like
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actually doing law work i was like this sucks like i i don't want to do like this i don't like
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this um how do you avoid that though when you're creating a vision because like it's with vision
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you're supposed to get very specific and you know very create these very visceral things but then
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how do you know you want will like something if you don't have it yet i think i think uh when you
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figure out what you want to experience in your life the the feelings you want to have the people you
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want to spend your time with the places you want to travel to the smells the tastes when i think of
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a vision i think of that like how do i want to feel every single day and then does does training
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for eight hours a day and then to go work for a law firm does that fulfill the desires of the feelings i
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want to have every single day if so cool but i'm going to continue to pursue it until it doesn't
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and i think sometimes we need to to go through things that we desire we want until we realize we
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don't want them otherwise we might always be thinking oh i really want that thing or i want
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i should i should have gone after that or what could have happened if i went after it but now
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you know you don't want to be a lawyer anymore so i think it's about figuring out the feelings that
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you want to have every day and then going towards whatever you want to create the job the career the
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business you want to have that fits into those feelings yeah but then be willing to adjust
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be willing to adjust i mean listen when i was in high school all i wanted was a girlfriend
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into getting to college to play college football that was my vision right and then when i was in
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college my only vision was to be a pro athlete and then when i was a pro athlete and got injured i was
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like okay i don't know what my vision is so it's like it's a constant change evolution i look at life
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like a sport right there's seasons in sports you can't just play in the playoffs and in the nfl every
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single week non-stop and not have a break you'll die so you've got to have seasons you know people
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retire after a season because they're like okay i don't want this anymore this was my dream my whole
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life i played in the nfl for 10 years i'm beat up i'm i want a different thing in my life i'm in a
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different season of life so it's it's okay if something you work on for years is not what you
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want anymore um and i'm sure you had that with sports as well you know i used to love baseball i
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played since i was five years old playing t-ball and then my senior year i was just like i'm burnt out
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you know i'd hurt my arm and i was just like this sucks it's not as fun anymore like it's not
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inspiring and so it's okay if my dream has shifted into something new and the thing is uh a lot of
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people discount this like you learn stuff in the process of course of achieving that one thing that's
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what i get a lot of emails or letters from guys who are young they're in their 20s and they're like
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i don't know what to do with my life and they're in that moment they want to make sure like they want
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they think they have to get it right from the start i'm like no just pick something like do
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like have a vision and go for it you might not you might not end up doing that thing but like you're
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going to acquire skills you're going to meet people new opportunities will open up because you have
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taken action towards that one goal and then you you can feel free to choose your change the story
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right exactly and brett would you would you say that even though you realize you hated law or it
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wasn't for you or whatever wouldn't you say that man you're glad that you you took on the law
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uh and you you did that for years you went to school you practiced and because you learned a
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ton about how to run a business probably and how to be efficient and how to be consistent and
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research writing writing that's where i learned how to write was in law school and would you have
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would you say you'd have a successful blog as it is today without having years of training writing
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no no of course so you gotta so you gotta look at that as like okay this was you know tools that i
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learned to make me efficient in my new dream exactly and this isn't gonna last forever at some
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point it's gonna end you know it is gonna end some point some point whether you sell it you you die
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in a hundred years whatever it's going to end right something's going to change and you're gonna
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move on to something else you're gonna be like i'm tired of writing about men you know like i've
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written everything i can about what men can do to be manly um now i want to write about
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girly things i don't know so let's talk about this uh sort of sort of uh segues nicely to the
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next my next question adversity uh you talk it's a it's an important aspect of living the school of
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greatness why is embracing adversity such an important aspect of living a flourishing life
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because it's gonna happen no matter what you know we didn't just we weren't born and we couldn't
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just talk and walk right away we had to stumble and every day is a stumble towards growing into
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the person what we want to become so the greatest minds the greatest athletes the greatest businessmen
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they all face some type of adversity um along the way and the bigger the dream the bigger the
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challenges roadblocks and adversity you're going to face so if you can't learn to embrace it and say
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okay this is a challenge this is in the way um all it's telling me is that i need to learn something
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new in order to overcome it or i need to grow into someone or i need to attract a better team to help
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me evolve past this adversity but it's when the people who see the adversity and they say you know
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what it's too much for me to handle i'm not going to take it on uh i'm going to stay where i'm at in
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my comfort zone those are the ones that aren't able to push past and grow as fast as everyone else
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because they're stuck in that adversity fear you've uh you have highlighted a bunch of people in your book
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that you've interviewed and just you come in contact with your uh your business are there any
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people who stick out in your top of mind that they overcame adversity that allowed them to do
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something even greater before the adversity yeah of course i mean well i think of kyle maynard as a
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great example do you know kyle i don't he's a guy who was born without arms and legs and he's got
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one of the most incredible stories he's climbed mount kilimanjaro on his elbows army crawling up the
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mountain it took him 12 days to do it he's fought in a mma octagon fight against a guy with arms and
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legs who he always wanted the dream of of fighting the ufc and he did his a fight he was a high school
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wrestler against you know people with arms and legs and was a champion wrestler he does crossfit it's
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just like amazing how he lives his life he lives alone and it's incredible the adversity and the
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challenges he faces in a world that does not support people without arms and legs how he can
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continue to be happy and go after his dreams and inspire other people along the way um i think it's
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a great example i always think of him whenever whenever i'm struggling or feeling like sore or not happy
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about something happening in my life i'm like man i have arms and freaking legs like i have no excuse
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to to do what i want to do like here's a guy who doesn't have half the body literally and he still
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does it so there's no excuse so for me he's a great example of someone who just constantly overcomes
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adversity every day and is happy that's awesome really cool um so you talk in the book about the
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importance of of hustling and i'm a big believer right like we i wrote a post several years ago called
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the world belongs to those who hustle yes i think it's true it's based off an abraham lincoln quote
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yep um but you argue that there's there are fears that hold people back from hustling what are those
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fears and how do you overcome them i think uh the fear is um success and failure i think people are
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afraid they're afraid to succeed um because of what will come from that what responsibilities
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the platform they have they may not feel comfortable uh having that type of acknowledgement
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uh they're afraid of that but they're also afraid of looking bad they're afraid of people judging them
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when they do succeed or if they fail people saying i told you so and i think people get stuck in that
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the fear of success and failure and for me it's um it's a shame because i believe we're born to
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to step into the the greatness that we have from the gifts we have and make the most of them
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and it's just a shame i wish people would hustle more um you know what i think other people are
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afraid of they're a lot of people afraid of with hustling is they don't want to look like they're
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trying too hard but i don't understand that i'm like you know maybe you don't need to look like you're
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dying when you're doing it but i think people appreciate others who work hard after their dreams and
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go for it and do whatever it takes it's you know the the coach in a basketball team doesn't just say
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oh you didn't chase for that ball um you know it's okay he he will put on the starting five the player
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that dives on the court constantly to get the loose balls because he knows that's going to be the
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difference maker potentially at the end of the game between winning by a couple points or losing
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those that are willing to sacrifice their body their energy um for the greater good of the vision
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and hustle you know i'm talking about like diving for the loose balls of life you gotta be like a
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larry bird exactly most people don't dive for the loose balls in life because whatever they don't
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want to look bad or they want to look stupid or like they're trying too hard but tell me when you
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watch someone diving on the court who was the guy for the calves uh last playoffs um delo duveva or
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whatever his name is i don't know if you watched the nba playoffs last year no but there's a guy who
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should not have been on the court he is like i feel like i could beat him in a one-on-one game
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but i'll tell you what he scored like 20 points a game and he was diving all over the place like
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getting kneed in the head diving into the stands saving loose balls everywhere and everyone loved this
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guy on the team and in the stands because man they saw someone who was hustling and giving his all
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for his dream and for me that's what's inspiring when people do hustle and dive around on the court
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of life not when people are just like trying to play it cool and act like they have it all figured
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out and just don't care that doesn't inspire me like the tryhards i like that um so here's a related
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question is i know a lot of people who are really great at hustling and how to work hard and smart
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but the thing is they still seem not to get anywhere in life because they don't have any
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self-initiative right like they're good if someone tells them exactly what they need to do right um but
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when they're left on their own they just can't get going they can't self-start so any advice for the
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people out there who are struggling with with being a self-starter i think uh know your weaknesses and
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if you're not a self-starter then hire a coach and have them stay on you every single week if that's
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how you operate we all operate differently i feel like i'm a great self-starter i know you are
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but i also know that no matter how much passion and commitment i have and how great of a person i am
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when i work out i can work out with the best of them and i can work on my business with the best of
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them but i tell you what when i have a coach who's in the gym with me i'm always going to push a little
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bit harder i'm always going to have a little bit better form i'm always going to be a little bit
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more intensified in my workouts and i'm going to get a better result because i have a coach no matter
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if i am great on my own but nine times out of ten that one time i might take it easy or take a longer
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break or leave early because i'm tired because i'm just like well i did enough so i recommend having
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that coach to keep you in track constantly and i have a coach in a lot of areas of my life and my
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business my health my relationships and uh i rely on those to keep me in track give me the feedback
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it doesn't mean i'm not doing all the work on my own still but i rely for feedback to make sure i'm
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on the path to achieving my vision currently how does that i've always been curious about this i've
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never done that i know a lot of people use coaches dude you would crush it what what would like what
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do you do with like a business coach or like with a career coach you would crush it man i mean
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because you're dominating so much right now just i just know if you had a coach once a week that you
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talked on the phone for 15 minutes um for your business let's say you would tell them okay here's
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my goals here's my game plan here's my vision here's what i want and then the right coach would
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really guide you to helping you keep on track and accelerate it faster than when you wanted to achieve
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it and i think it would happen extremely well for you and you would love it so i recommend checking it
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out and trying it for a few months finding someone that you're really inspired by in business who's
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a great coach and uh either hiring them or or seeing what arrangement you can have because it'd be an
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interesting experiment and it'd be a great blog post to say why men should hire coaches or not or not
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hire coaches or not do it all right so let's getting back on track with our uh our greek theme here
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eudaimonia i like that school of greatness school of eudaimonia um aristotle said that you know we are what
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we repeatedly do for excellence is a habit and you have a chapter in your book about habits and you
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you've talked to a lot of successful people you've done a lot of research in the in success and uh are
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there any habits that you've seen that a lot of highly successful people have in their life yeah you
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know brian tracy also said successful people are simply those with successful habits and um we can
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we can have a lot of us has bad habits right uh but the the most successful people the most the
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wealthiest people in the world the people who have the biggest businesses they do things differently they
00:25:34.280
have different habits and some of them uh just for like the the richest people in the world when i was
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doing research on this they maintain a to-do list they wake up three hours before they start working
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to set themselves up for the day and they have rituals before they start the day they don't just
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open up the phone right away in bed and start emailing they follow a process first um they also
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educate themselves constantly they're reading books they're listening to audio books they're
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learning constantly they have a learner's mind they are networking five hours each month at a minimum
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they're connecting with people new people to build new relationships they read 30 plus minutes a day
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they exercise four days a week i recommend five days a week myself they eat minimal junk food they watch
00:26:24.900
one hour less of tv a day than the average person uh they teach good daily success habits to their
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children there's lots of things that they do they write down their goals they focus on accomplishing a
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specific goal and they believe in lifelong educational self-improvement these are a lot of those things
00:26:42.540
awesome what is your daily your morning routine looking like right now so i spend about um when i
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wake up right now i'm i'm trying to wake up at 7 a.m every morning it's it depends on travel and
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everything but the goal is 7 a.m i wake up and then i do a a process where i write down what i'm grateful
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for or write in my journal for what i'm grateful for and what i want to create today so my intention
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for the day how i want to feel what i want to create and then i do a 13 minute guided visualization
00:27:11.800
this is something i started doing back in college i started it the month before i broke the world record
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for the most receiving yards in a single football game and it was the best season of my life and i just
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decided to to continue doing it because i was like there's something to this grounding what i like to
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call it's a grounding um where you really connect to what you want to create so i do a 13 minute
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guided visualization it's just an audio with some music that a guy this yogi is talking and kind of
00:27:40.260
guiding you through what you want to create for the day uh i do that then i go and make my bed i wake
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up and i make my bed to the best of my ability why is that okay why did you decide to start making
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your bed i i didn't do this until um about two and a half years ago i didn't start making my bed i used
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maybe once in a while i'd make it but it really just kind of like when you had company coming over
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right exactly i'd like throw the sheet over or something um but when i started making my bed and
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i'm going to challenge every man and woman listening if you don't make your bed i want to challenge you
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to make your bed every day for the next seven days right after you wake up the first thing you do
00:28:18.640
make your bed and take a photo of it and tweet me at lewishouse or tag me and brett on instagram
00:28:25.560
with a photo of your maid bed and i want you to tell me how it feels after one week by doing it
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so why i do it for a couple reasons one it creates momentum in the day it creates a completion
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action in the day so i'm completing something i'm getting a task done and that builds momentum as
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opposed to just being lethargic and like walking into the next thing and reacting so it's it's it's
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activating the day by completion the second thing it does is it clears the energy you know when i come
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back into the room and i see a messy bed i'm like having a cluttered mind just by that uh happening
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so i clean the bed make it nice i pick up the room if i have clothes on the couch or whatever i put that
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away so that when my i know my bed is complete my room is complete it's clean you know our moms were
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right we should make our bed and clean our room every single day and i should have listened to her
00:29:19.380
because it's had incredible effects and the clarity for the rest of my day and when i do it over time
00:29:25.580
it just gets better and better you know the momentum builds over time when you do it so you're
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going to start to feel those effects so i recommend making your bed then i go for my workout uh almost
00:29:36.920
every morning i'll do some type of workout right now i'm in an off season i'm not training heavily
00:29:42.260
with the usa national handball team so my workouts more cross training and uh lifting running playing
00:29:48.620
pickup basketball different things to keep me maintaining um then i come back i'll do some
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light stretching on my floor take a shower have a green juice green smoothie as well and then i
00:30:01.520
kick start and go into whatever the first meeting is are working okay yeah interesting i like i like
00:30:06.860
listening about other people's morning routines that's awesome um yeah so we there's this myth in
00:30:13.100
america that's really popular and i i'm kind of drawn to it as well uh it's this idea is that
00:30:18.720
there's the self-made man right like you start and there there are a few examples like i think one of
00:30:24.200
the best examples of an actual self-made man was frederick douglas he started off as a slave ended up
00:30:30.720
being this publishing magnet basically um but for the most part like there isn't self-made men there are
00:30:37.880
usually a great success has a team supporting them yes and you have a chapter dedicated in your
00:30:43.500
book about you know developing a team around you yes so what what sort of people should a man have
00:30:49.540
on their team to be successful in life and i'm not just talking about business i'm talking about just
00:30:53.240
all aspects of is it just like having a team of friends having family is it having an account i mean
00:30:58.280
what is it what's a team that a man should have in his life it's different for each man based on their
00:31:03.960
visions and their goals i believe but you know i don't think there's any self-made man i mean we
00:31:09.280
were born needing support of of other people and based on the support that we had from our parents
00:31:15.620
our siblings originally we grew up a certain way based on that team then from school we grew based on
00:31:24.020
that team of teachers of peers uh of staff then from our our you know our sports teams as well from
00:31:30.560
those coaches like we grew with teams with armies of people supporting us whether we knew it or not
00:31:36.060
and i think it's important that we are very um specific about who we want to spend our time with
00:31:42.740
i think i don't know jim rome or someone said you know we are the the average of the five people we
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spend our time with and i believe it's completely true and for me i'm always looking to find and
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attract quality people on my team that means friends who are going to inspire me and lift me up
00:32:00.080
that means mentors that means coaches that means people on my specific business i'm always looking
00:32:06.120
to add um great people to to increase the business to add new talents and new skills and i think it
00:32:13.720
depends with where we're at currently in our emotional and physical development on who we attract and what
00:32:19.520
we see we need um but it's all about the team and i had a guy scooter brawn on who is uh justin
00:32:26.980
bieber's manager who discovered justin bieber on youtube built this you know amazing empire around
00:32:32.320
him he was just like you know you cannot achieve greatness on your own it's impossible and and your
00:32:38.400
team may never be do it the way you want to do it as well they may never do the things you really
00:32:44.760
want to do the way you plan on it but you can't do it without them you can't go to the next step without
00:32:50.120
other people supporting it you couldn't do all the video all the writing all the design all the coding
00:32:55.420
all the email marketing the social media and the content creation all on your own and be where
00:33:00.880
you're at right now it's taking a team of people to support you to get there and maybe those people
00:33:05.960
don't do everything you want them to do the way you like it but they get it done and sometimes it's
00:33:11.260
even better and so we just have to be aware of that and embrace the part of the process and i think
00:33:16.860
of uh you know individual athletes who may be like you know tennis players or golfers who you think
00:33:21.460
like they may be their self-made or they they train on their own but they have probably teams of 50
00:33:26.400
people from the trainers to the coaches to their families to their training partners um you know
00:33:32.720
the sports psychologists like everyone plays into their success and if you don't have the right people
00:33:39.620
on the team it might hold you back well then how do you go about developing this then right so i'm
00:33:43.720
gonna ask you like the you're the expert networker you're the linkedin guy um how do you uh network and
00:33:49.140
and meet these new people and you're and to be able to find these people that you can bring into
00:33:53.720
your team i mean for me it's it's always been who inspires me who am i attracted to who's doing
00:33:59.360
things in the world that i want to do that i want to be like that i want to embody and embrace and from
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there it's developing those relationships it's going out and making them happen it's you know we all
00:34:09.660
we can all do it in a different way i do it through my podcast you do it through your blog and
00:34:13.780
podcast where you're attracting people to you but you're also you know i created the podcast so that
00:34:18.980
i can have a platform to interview people like you and people like john maxwell and people like
00:34:24.520
tony robbins because i wanted to build relationships with these inspiring individuals and learn from
00:34:29.980
them and create partnerships long term so we can all do it different ways early on i just did it
00:34:36.300
through emailing people on linkedin and going to networking events and adding value to these
00:34:40.580
individuals i think when you ask them for help it's a big turnoff i know you probably get a few
00:34:46.000
hundred emails a day from people asking for advice and it's a turnoff sometimes but when we come to
00:34:52.640
people saying hey i want to add value to do to you here's how i can support you and it's going to take
00:34:59.000
none of your time and i don't want anything in return that's a much better way of building a
00:35:03.300
relationship with someone yeah for sure yeah i think that the adding trying to add value to someone's
00:35:07.800
life we had a john corican on the podcast and he's written some pieces for us as well and he's that's
00:35:12.560
big thing it's like just find ways to like improve people's lives make their lives easier and it could
00:35:17.660
be as simple as just like if you know someone is in a particular industry right maybe it's your boss
00:35:22.960
or some co-worker at your office like shoot them a link uh to an article that might help them with
00:35:29.420
the problem they've been working on just like i thought this would help that's it and don't don't
00:35:33.160
ask for anything just like there it is don't ask for anything and the more you do that over and i did
00:35:37.300
this with tim ferris for about three years when i read his book i would email him like every four to
00:35:41.620
six months because i really wanted to build a relationship with him and i would email him
00:35:45.800
whenever he would have a new book or something he wanted to promote i would promote it as hard as i
00:35:50.080
could and and show him and be like hey man i just shared this everywhere i emailed to my list like let
00:35:56.480
me know how else i can serve you and i would do that for years until eventually we became friends we met
00:36:02.140
in person and then he invited me to come speak at his conference and you know and the relationship
00:36:06.940
has grown from there but that's what i do it might take years to build a relationship with someone you
00:36:11.520
want to be on your team or have just connection with and it's going to take giving and giving and
00:36:18.400
giving for years potentially in order for that to happen all right that sounds some great solid
00:36:23.240
advice there now you you in the book talking about how service is the capstone yes in the the capstone
00:36:29.660
class in the school of greatness and why is that i mean what what how do you take this idea of being
00:36:35.780
great personally and and transferring that to like being great for the wider community you know i'll share
00:36:44.540
a story with you you know my my dream as a kid was to be an all-american athlete and then to be a pro
00:36:49.280
athlete and i remember working so hard to be an all-american decathlete i was an all-american
00:36:57.360
decathlete and then all-american football player and i remember there was just like my mission was
00:37:02.460
to do that and then right when i achieved all-american decathlete i was up on the podium in front
00:37:07.840
of the whole stadium at this at the track and field national championships and i got my award i was happy
00:37:14.560
for about 15 minutes and then i was depressed and nasty the rest of the night around my teammates
00:37:19.760
around my coach around my family i was just like i didn't want them around i was miserable
00:37:23.940
and it wasn't until and i was the same way after football when i got that in the same way after
00:37:28.940
pro football i was like i was just nasty when i would achieve my goals i wasn't happy and later
00:37:35.020
in life i really discovered that the reason i wasn't happy or fulfilled was because i was going after my
00:37:41.740
dreams from a place of proving people wrong i was like i'm going to show you why i'm great i'm going
00:37:47.940
to show you why you're wrong and whatever you say about me isn't true and i'm going to do this in
00:37:54.060
spite of you and so i had i was driven by anger and this fuel of resentment as opposed to serving and
00:38:02.180
inspiring other people and inspiring myself and when i started to shift that and realized that okay
00:38:07.900
i need to come from if i want to achieve my dreams it must come from a place of serving me inspiring me
00:38:14.540
and impacting people around me otherwise i'm going to always feel unfulfilled because it's coming from
00:38:19.840
a place of proving others wrong or only self-serving and that took a while and a lot of pain and
00:38:26.660
frustration for me to figure that that lesson out and all the people that i interview who are at the
00:38:31.340
top of their game they have some type of mission that is bigger than them they have some type of
00:38:36.380
service or some type of charity that they're connected to or committed to in their business it's not just
00:38:42.020
about making lots of money they have a deeper mission of why they want to make money or why
00:38:46.920
they want to achieve their dreams or why they want to be a great athlete and that continues to fuel them
00:38:52.400
in a positive way so i look at living a life of service as something we all must embody on a daily
00:38:58.920
basis that doesn't mean we're trying to cure cancer every single day what it means is we open the door
00:39:04.400
for someone at a restaurant we smile at each person when we walk down the street we say hello we give
00:39:11.000
an extra second longer hug we do those little things every day that are going to lead into bigger
00:39:17.180
moments for people's lives as well and we figure out how can we impact people and serve other people
00:39:22.460
in our businesses and our community and our relationships and by doing that we're going to
00:39:27.420
be much more fulfilled and it's going to be sustaining our life a lot longer yeah and my experience has been
00:39:32.380
this is that whenever you have a service mindset it actually you get better because of it of course
00:39:38.960
right um when you're when you're working for something that's other than yourself and i think
00:39:42.100
that's what a lot of like personal development blogs and books are missing it's all about okay
00:39:47.020
you got to look you got to exercise and you have to do all this things like but for what
00:39:50.320
right like it's like okay i look ripped i look shredded i've got lots of money i'm living the
00:39:55.900
location independent lifestyle now what exactly and it's just like you get you have that moment of
00:40:01.700
jeez i just i don't know like you have the existential crisis and in my in my life in my experience
00:40:06.300
i look back at my life when i've when i've done the my i've been about my peak performance is
00:40:10.160
always when i'm working for something bigger that's not just me like when i football it's a
00:40:14.460
perfect example like i trained so hard and like i threw my body on the line so hard not for me it's
00:40:20.700
like i wanted like to help my team out yeah like i wanted to help the team get to state that was the
00:40:25.600
goal um and now when i'm exercising i have to come up with some sort of other reason beyond state it
00:40:31.560
has to be like okay i'm doing this six pack yeah then just a six pack it's like that won't last
00:40:35.480
exactly the donut will look so good you'll be like i want the donut i want the donut but so i i exercise
00:40:40.820
you know because it helps my mental game helps me be strong for my family you know it'd be a service i
00:40:44.880
want to be useful etc etc um yeah it's like i feel like having that service or mindset can actually help
00:40:51.400
you catapult your own personal development exactly i mean there's so many stories that i know you hear
00:40:57.360
and i hear from people who are 40 years old that like that made all the money that got the boats
00:41:02.820
and the houses and the cars and then they're like what am i doing and they actually like changed
00:41:07.100
their whole lifestyle around because they're like this doesn't feel good anymore like i went after
00:41:11.720
the stupid stuff and that's not serving me and they find out kind of the meaning of life which is to
00:41:17.760
you know give more meaning to other people and uh and then they switch it around so i think if we
00:41:22.620
can create a lifestyle where we're we're making money i think money's great you know i'm i love
00:41:27.440
money and i love experiences i don't really buy a lot of things i don't care about material things i
00:41:33.320
like to have access and experiences and a nice lifestyle but i want to make more money to serve
00:41:41.460
more people and that's why i'm creating my business the way i am awesome so hey lewis has been a great
00:41:46.520
conversation uh before we go though where can people learn more about your work they can go to
00:41:51.560
lewishouse.com um or my podcast the school of greatness awesome lewis house thank you so much
00:41:58.080
for your time it's been a pleasure i appreciate it like i say it was lewis house he's the author
00:42:02.320
of the book the school of greatness you can find that on amazon.com and bookstores everywhere you can
00:42:06.680
also check out lewis's content at lewishouse.com uh and you can also check out his podcasts uh the
00:42:12.340
school of greatness on itunes or stitcher whatever it is you listen to your podcast
00:42:15.800
well that wraps up another edition of the art of manliness podcast for more manly tips and advice
00:42:23.260
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00:42:26.840
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00:42:35.500
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