#240： The Making of Winston Churchill
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Candace Millard's new book, Hero of the Empire: The Boer War, A Daring Escape, and the Making of Winston Churchill, details Churchill's capture and escape as a prisoner of war in South Africa during World War II.
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brett mckay here and welcome to another edition of the art of manliness podcast so when we hear
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the name winston churchill images of the cigar chomping overweight elderly aristocrat who led
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england through their finest hour probably come to mind what few people realize however is that
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as a young man churchill lived a life of romantic adventure and daring by fighting at the battlefront
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in three different wars before he's 23 years old and he capped off his military career by serving as
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a 24 year old war correspondent in the boer war in southern africa where he was taken prisoner
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made an audacious escape and returned home to england as a national hero my guest today on the
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podcast has just published a detailed account of churchill's capture and escape during the boer war
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and how it launched his career as the statesman we remember today her name is candace millard you
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probably read her previous book the river of doubt about theodore roosevelt's exploration of the amazon
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her latest book is called hero of the empire the boer war a daring escape and the making of
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winston churchill on today's show candace and i discussed supreme confidence churchill had as a
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young man that he was destined for greatness and how he intentionally sought after dangerous
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military missions that would catapult him to fame we also discussed the compelling leadership and
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persuasion ability churchill displayed during the boer war that would later propel his political career
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as well as the similarities between churchill and teddy roosevelt stay tuned for a fascinating podcast
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one of history's most fascinating figures after the show check out the show notes at aom.is
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all right candace millard welcome to the show thank you for having me uh so i've long been a fan of your
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work uh i loved your book river of doubt about teddy roosevelt's adventure down an uncharted
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uh part of the amazon river and you got a new book out hero of the empire the boer war daring
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escape and the making of winston churchill um a lot's been written about churchill he's one of
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those figures that gets biographers love to write about but it's often about the later parts of his
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life um what drew you to writing about a younger churchill's capture and escape as a prisoner of war
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in the boer war well as you say we all um know winston churchill i think there's something like
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12 000 books about him but a lot of it obviously focuses on his time in world war ii and his role
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in it and um and the fact that he was such an extraordinary leader um but what interested me is what
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made the winston churchill we all know where did he come from how did he have this incredible ability
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and confidence and how was he able to project it to his people and to entire nations and and the answer
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is south africa you know if you if you look at it it this war not only propelled him to the political
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stage he he became a national hero during this war because of his escape and he had run for parliament
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before and lost he ran again and on the strength of his popularity he himself says um coming out of
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the south african war um won the second time and it launched his political career but more than that
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you can see him so clearly at this young age um with all the qualities we think of him having later in
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life with the his his audacity his determination his grit his agility and ingenuity they all come
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into play in south africa so yeah you're right when most people think of churchill they usually imagine
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the cigar chomping overweight aristocratic statement leading great britain in their finest hour but
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as a young man and he was 24 25 uh during the boer war um churchill lived a life of romantic
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daring that culminated in the boer wars and even before the boer wars he had some military escapades
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uh can you tell us a little bit about that and and what drove him to put himself in harm's way like
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that so he had always loved war and been fascinated by it even as a child he had 1500 toy soldiers that
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he played with and he also was a direct descendant of the first duke of marlborough john churchill who
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is considered to be one of uh england's greatest generals and so he was very much aware of that
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legacy and you know he he was born into the highest ranks of the british aristocracy at the height
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of the british empire so he had a lot of wars to choose from you know the the british empire ruled over
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450 million people at that point and so they were constantly putting down revolts from egypt to ireland
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and um and so churchill thought of war as sort of his vehicle to fame and then political power
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he called it the glittering gateway to distinction and so you're right so by the time he goes
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to south africa he's 24 years old but this is his fourth war on three different continents you know he
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he went to cuba um uh right before the beginning uh sort of the beginning skirmishes of the spanish
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american war he went to british india and fought in malacan he um and he went to the sudan and fought
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in the famous battle of omdurman so he was a very experienced seasoned um soldier by the time he goes
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to south africa and i imagine there was something about the culture of victorian england that compelled
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him to put himself at the battlefront right to england at that time it wasn't you don't they didn't
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think really about war they thought about gallantry and they spent a lot more time sort of working on
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parades and pressing their uniforms and shining their medals than they did actually thinking about
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the realities of war even though they had been in so many of them but many of them were um colonial wars
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where they you know or they had far better um weapons and more men and could easily overwhelm
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their enemies um but that turned out to be a serious problem for them from for them in south africa
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because they were facing a completely different kind of enemy there yeah and we'll talk about that
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in a bit it seems like the boer war really ushered in modern warfare yeah it did absolutely there's no
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question it was some of the earliest guerrilla fighting they even called it the khaki war because
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it was one of the first times that the british army was sort of resentfully convinced to stop wearing
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their dashing red coats they hated the khakis they said it made them look like bus drivers but they were
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still fighting in these perfect precise lines sort of set up for the slaughter um it was also some of the
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first concentration camps and you know changing of um modernization of weapons and um and it really
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prepared the british army for world war one so we've written a lot about churchill and i've read a lot
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about him and one thing about him is he is an egoist and he's a self-described egoist he will he will cop to
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that uh accusation um and you talk about this right from the get-go in your book that from a young age
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he felt he was destined for greatness where did this feeling of certainty that he would be a great man
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one day come from i think you're born with it you know but i think what's different about
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churchill is that um he he not only believed it and i think a lot of young people certainly a lot of
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young men believe that they're destined for greatness that they're special that they're different
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they're going to do something extraordinary but he didn't sit around waiting for something to happen
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to him he went out and he found his opportunities again and again and again and he threw himself not
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only into war but into the most brutal battles he could find and he would do these extreme things
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just to get attention so he would get medals and then he thought you know he can turn this into
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to fame and to power you know he he for instance rode a white pony on the battlefield and malik and
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to the horror of the people around him just to get noticed but as you say he said he had faith in his
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star and i remember one of my favorite things he wrote to his mother um when he was in the middle of
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a war and he had seen his friends not just killed but slaughtered but he said he didn't think the gods
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would create so potent a being as himself for so prosaic and ending so he just didn't think it was
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going to happen to him because he had this larger life ahead of him right and i guess one thing he did
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that was very unbridged like he shared with others his premonitions about his greatness he did and you
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know other people around him believed it too but the funny thing is again and again and again when i was
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doing research people would say you know i can't stand that kid winston churchley drives me crazy
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he's going to be prime minister one day but i just can't stand him and his he he was openly ambitious
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and that just wasn't done in the british military and the and the british society in which he had been
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born and so i think of it kind of as the american in him actually the kind of brash pusher and his
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mother was american right and i mean but one thing i remember from reading about churchill like he was
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sort of a sensitive boy and like he was kind of overweight um you know kind of soft he was very
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like he like even as an old older man he liked to wear silk pajamas and he really pampered himself
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so i mean i can imagine people looking at this sort of aristocrat guy who has kind of a lisp uh not
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super athletic thinking yeah he's saying he's destined for greatness but i i don't know if that's true
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did was how did churchill how was he able to transform himself well i think that um it's
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interesting to me his his early life when he was a child because um especially because he ends up
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becoming a writer right an extraordinary writer that's how he that's how he supported himself for
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most of his life and that's actually how he got to south africa as a correspondent and so not only
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is he sort of you know not strong physically but he thinks and is seen as not strong intellectually
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which seems incredible to us now but because he um wasn't a great student they didn't put him into
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you know the greek and latin classes which were for just set aside for the um the more capable students
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and they just kind of stuck him in the regular english class but he had this extraordinary teacher
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and he came to know the english language inside and out and so he had this power actually over
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other people which as you know translated to incredible power i mean the the power of words
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later on is an incredible weapon and a credible tool to inspire other people and so he had that
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throughout his life and you know as he became a young man he was more fit and because he had thrown
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himself into these situations again and again um and he was always very very confident so he believed
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that he would do fine on the battlefield and he did yeah he did um so you mentioned his mother
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uh his mother was american churchill had a really interesting family life as a boy and young man i'm
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sure it had a huge influence on his ambitions um can you tell us a bit about his about his family and
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his relationship with his parents and how it affected him throughout the rest of his life
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so his father was lord randolph churchill who had been the chancellor of the exchequer and had been
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leader of the house of commons so a very famous and powerful man who um was actually very very hard
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on his son and didn't spend much time with him and it was i think one of the great regrets of
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churchill's life you know he he later said that he he wished he had been you know a shopkeeper's son
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um because he would have had a chance to get to know his father which would have been a joy to him
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but as it was his parents you know sent him off to boarding school when he was seven years old
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and he they just never made time for him his father was very very busy with his political career
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and his mother was very busy with her her social life she was um as you say she was this
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incredibly beautiful american socialite born jenny jerome and um and she when she came to england
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she became the star the sort of the glittering center of course there are people who resented her
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um you know because of who she was because she was american for one thing but she just didn't care
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you know she loved life she loved being the center of attention and um and she was really too busy for
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him often and it's um i'm a mother myself and i actually found it really heartbreaking to read his
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letters um home to his parents from boarding school begging them to visit him and they just never did
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they again and again he would even like figure out you know what trains they could take and what the
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schedule would be and how they could then quickly get back to london um and then they just didn't take
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the time um but then churchill's father died when he was just 45 years old um he died a very um public
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and tragic death and um and then churchill himself became interesting actually to his mother he um became
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a young man of consequence and she had all these um relationships she had all this power with very
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powerful men um all this influence and he told her he said look this is a pushing age we must push with
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the best and i want you to get me these military appointments because i want to be able to go
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anywhere in the world where the most interesting fighting is going on and she helped him again and
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again and again yeah that was interesting his mother was like very influential in helping his political
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career and even she tried to pull strings while he was a prisoner of war as well um and you're right
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the letters i've read those letters that churchill wrote when he was in boarding school and it just
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it breaks your heart i mean it's super sad um absolutely so when churchill was a young man he's
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i guess he's about 24 he begins his foray into politics by running for a member of parliament in
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oldham in 1899 um he loses how did someone with with so much unbridled ambition like churchill respond to
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that defeat well he was completely deflated you know and um and he felt like you know he had all
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this promise and he believed strongly in himself but it was a different thing to try to convince
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everybody else and um and it was difficult to get there so nothing kind of had worked he had tried you
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know war and he had tried politics and he he you know here he was he had no income his you know he had
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been born in blenheim palace um with all this you know incredible opulence around him but they didn't
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have any money you know even um the people who he didn't inherit the title of the palace but even
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those who did i mean they were desperately sort of selling off the gems and the library and the
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and the art collection just to try to stay afloat and his father had left him very little money
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um his mother had spent most of it and um so he needed to um find another way and he believed that
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he needed another war he needed another opportunity to prove himself and so when he heard these the
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rumblings of war happening in south africa he saw that as his opportunity okay so let's go there so
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before we talk about churchill's involvement in the boer war let's talk a bit about the background of the
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work for those who aren't familiar with it so it took place in south africa um who were the british
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fighting exactly during the boer war so the boers were this um group of largely dutch huguenot and
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german immigrants who had been living in south africa for centuries they were very religious they were
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unabashedly racist and they were stubbornly independent so most of all they just wanted
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to be left alone and um they were trying to get away from the british empire by um moving into the
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interior of africa so in 1835 just two years after the british empire had um abolished slavery um which
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was sort of the final straw for the boers they um they took what they called the great track which was
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moving hundreds of miles from the cape into the african interior and they established three different
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republics at that time um but unfortunately for them they found gold and diamonds um especially in
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an area called the transvaal or the south african republic one of their three republics and um paul kruger
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who would become president of the transvaal said that this gold will cause our country to be soaked in
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blood and he was right so just a few years later in 1880 the first boer war took place between the
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british and the boers and um to the british shock they actually lost it was a very short war but they
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lost and the boers had sort of temporarily had their independence but i think they both knew that the
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british weren't going to forget about it i mean it was a the area itself was very interesting the british
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anyway because obviously they had to get around the cape to get to india but then with the gold and
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diamonds they just weren't going to let go and so it just became more and more tense between the two
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groups okay and i mean i thought it was interesting what's interesting about the boer war it was
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europeans fighting europeans in africa um i think some people i mean and that's some people have called it
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like the american revolution in africa and with a lot of americans sympathized with the boers
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right um right absolutely so churchill goes to south africa but he goes not as a soldier but as a
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war reporter um for a guy who loved and romanticized battle why did why not go as an officer in the
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military because he had already left the military and he knew again he's trying to make money and he
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this was his ticket to south africa and um and he had written while so he had done this unusual thing
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when he was um taking part in these other wars earlier on he had been both um a combatant and a
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correspondent and in fact because um he had so openly criticized those who are in command especially
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kitchener um they had had to make a rule that you couldn't be both you couldn't both write about the
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war and fight in it um and so he um he very quickly got offers from all of these newspaper publishers
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asking him to write for for them because he was an incredibly skilled reporter i mean not only um was
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he incredibly ambitious and intrepid so he would get wherever something was happening he was the first
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person there um but he was also obviously brilliant and his analysis was incredibly insightful um and
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but most of all his prose was absolutely beautiful i mean you know i read a lot a lot a lot of
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newspaper articles um from that time covering this war and without question winston churchill's
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writing is head and shoulders above everybody else and then he was smart and so he has all these
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offers and so he takes it to different people and he's like look this this um newspaper is going to
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give me this what will you give me and in the end he ends up becoming the highest paid correspondent
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that england had ever had that's crazy how much was he paid in today's dollars he's paid a huge amount
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i can't remember to be honest it was something like close to a hundred thousand dollars um to cover the
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war and he also had um a huge stipend so he they would cover you know all of his expenses while he was
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there and he as you were saying earlier i mean he um he was willing to risk his life and throw
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himself into these dangerous situations but he didn't see the point in being uncomfortable or
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uncivilized while he was there so he brought with him his valet and he also bought all of this alcohol
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to take with him so you know a very nice selection of wines and he put something like 18 bottles of 10
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year old scotch whiskey to take along and the newspaper paid for it all it's crazy and i mean what's
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amazing to us keep keep i think people need to keep in mind he was only 24 when he was when this
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happened um so he's right and he's and he's this is not only his fourth war he's already written three
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books and run for parliament so he's a little ambitious right it makes me feel like a slacker
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a complete slacker um keep up with this guy right um so how did he become captured as a pow because i mean
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if he was a journalist um you would think that well okay he's not really a uh combatant so the
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laws of war would say you're not you can't hold him as a prisoner of war why did the boars treat him
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like a combatant because he acted like a combatant because he's winston churchill and he couldn't help
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himself so he he gets to this little town called escort which is as close as you can get to the front
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the front was then ladysmith which is just south of pretoria and um ladysmith is completely surrounded
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by the boars it's under siege you can't get in or out and the only thing that they have in this camp
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is they have this armored train that goes out for reconnaissance and every person in the camp all
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these soldiers all these officers hate this armored train because you know it seems like oh that's a
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great idea it would be protective but it's just a sitting duck you know it's an obvious easy target
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for the boars they know where it's going they know it has to come back on the same tracks and um so the
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men hated it they called it a death trap um but a friend of churchill's almer holden um who was in
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charge of a of a regiment and escort was ordered to take the armored train out for reconnaissance
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and he invited churchill to go with him and both of them knew that it was just a disastrous decision
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to take the train out especially that day they had just spotted the boars
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just outside of escort just the day before and um but holden didn't have a choice
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churchill had a choice but he was restless he was frustrated and he would later say that he was
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eager for trouble so he didn't hesitate for a minute when holden invited him along and um and he gets on the
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train and um the boars of course are watching and as soon as it goes past them they go to the bottom
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of a hill and they pile rocks on the tracks then they go to the top of that hill they wait for the
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train to come back as they knew it would and as soon as it gets to the top of the hill they
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just have this hailstorm of shells and bullets and the train does exactly what they want it to do it
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goes down the hill as fast as it can to try to get away from the attack and it crashes into these rocks
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to the bottom of the hill the first two cars are catapulted off the tracks and um several men are
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killed many are horribly wounded and winston churchill who's one of the few civilians on the
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train and again it's only 24 years old he jumps out and immediately takes charge of the defense i mean
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he's running back and forth shouting orders organizing a way for the train to to get away and what's even
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more extraordinary is that everyone listens to him you know that i mean there were plenty of
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legitimate uniformed soldiers on that train halden who was in charge he is too he's also listening to
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churchill he's taking command and he he lets him have at it and they and churchill succeeds that the
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train finally um gets it has to shove one of the cars off the tracks he figures out a way to do that
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and it gets away and every man who survives and gets out alive without being killed or captured
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credits saving his life credits the saving of his life to winston churchill yeah that's crazy and so
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the boar's captured he's acting as a combatant but i guess you also mentioned the book that they were
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keen on keeping him because i guess his father had kind of rubbed them in the wrong way and they wanted
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to like i don't know they hold on to this guy because he's the son of the guy that kind of did us
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wrong right they they are thrilled to have winston churchill because yeah one he's a he's the son of a
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lord um who represents everything that they hate about the british their arrogance and their aristocracy
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and um and also as you say randolph churchill had been there just a few years earlier and had um written
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letters home that were published in british newspapers excoriating the boars um for their
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backwardness for not being educated but mostly uh for their treatment of of native africans which was
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absolutely true um but it didn't make them hate him any less so he got captured a prisoner but the way
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you described it doesn't seem like it was that terribly bad the conditions were that bad it seemed
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like churchill was able to wander the streets i mean he was able to buy stuff hats clothing liquor and
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he made friends with i guess the minister of war for the boars or something like that what were the
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conditions like yeah he wasn't able to leave but they were and you know incredibly um comfortable he
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the the boars really hated the thought that the british thought that they were these backward buffoons
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and so they went out of their way to show that they were very civilized and so this was a prison just
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for officers and as you say yeah he i mean he was able to have a a barber come in and cut his hair
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he was able to order a tweed suit he they got they got the newspapers in um when it was hot they let them
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sleep in the hallways instead of in their rooms um and so they had sort of this comfortable life but
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for churchill it was absolutely unbearable and from the minute he was captured he was determined
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to win his release whether it was so arguing he wasn't a combatant they weren't listening to that
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because they obviously had seen it and they had read the newspaper accounts um from the other men
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who'd been on the train praising churchill or through escape you know and he he would write about it he
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would remember how it felt to be a prisoner for the rest of his life and he would say that his
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captivity he hated more than he had ever hated any period in his whole life and um and he would
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remember you know when he later on in life um when he came to power when he was a home secretary
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he made a point of making sure that prisoners um had access to books had access to the outdoors and to
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exercise um because he remembered that as just being this unbearable situation all right so
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churchill had to get out of there he started making plans when um his his um channels of trying
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to talk his way out didn't didn't come to fruition um his original plans and in typical
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churchillian fashion he came with this like really grandiose and complicated plan um and people were
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like yeah let's do that but then when he got there's a certain point they're like no that's
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actually not a good idea um can you talk a little about churchill's original plan to escape
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right so again this is winston churchill so he's not going to just you know have some quiet little
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plan or just he can escape no he wants to take over the entire prison and then take over the prison
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where the soldiers are kept and then take over pretoria and kidnap the president and end the war
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so this is really really elaborate grandiose plan and um and you know everybody's like that's not
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going to work that's ridiculous um and they kind of um shoo him away um but he overhears his friend
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almer holden um who's the guy who had invited him to go on the train um at the beginning and this other
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guy adam brocky who's a really interesting guy who had been in south africa for quite a while
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knew the train really well and actually spoke zulu and afrikaans and he overhears them talking about a
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plan of their own and he wants in so yeah they they decided to make this plan and all they all
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three of them were going to escape together but it didn't work out that way uh churchill ended up
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being alone and he had to get back to i forgot where it was he had to travel you know a couple
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hundred miles to get to safety and it was the area was teeming with boars um so how did he make that
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escape i mean was it just primarily luck or was there some skill and savvy involved
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so he um as you say he's able so the their plan is just um you know there's this six and a half
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foot tall fence surrounding the prison yard and there there are armed guards everywhere but they
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see that at night when the electric lights have these new electric lights when they come on there's
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one corner of the yard that's still dark and they think that you know if a guard's turned at just the
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right moment they can quickly get over and um and they um brocky and holden had tried and were kind
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of giving up for the night churchill gave it one more try and got over um and holden and brocky
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couldn't join him um the problem was that they had all the provisions churchill found himself on the
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other side he couldn't get back in he'd be shot but he's on the other side of the fence with no map
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no compass no food no weapon he doesn't speak the language and um and the boars when they find out
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are humiliated and enraged that anyone would escape but especially that it would be winston
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churchill and they are determined to catch him and he has ahead of him almost 300 miles of enemy
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territory he's trying to get to um what's now mozambique was in portuguese east africa
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and um and a lot of it is luck i mean it's it you know he he and he fluctuates between
00:31:13.740
sort of this easy confidence and and despair and um and it's really just an extraordinary
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extraordinary story of survival and um it really is incredible that that he did come out alive
00:31:29.400
right and we won't get in the details of his lucky breaks that he got but uh save that for the book but
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yeah churchill indeed had a had a star uh shining upon him so he he he returns uh to england and
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he's a hero a national hero so i mean if there wasn't a boar war and there wasn't an escape from
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this prison would there have been a churchill that led britain during their finest hour
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absolutely i think that he would have found a way no matter what you know he just he just he never gave
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up he never stopped and that's what made him so valuable during world war ii and that is what was
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going to propel him to the forefront of the national stage um no matter what now this was a faster and a
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more um exciting way to get there um and it's a and it's a it makes for a a really incredible
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story and it was a pivot point in his life you know he would later say you know this misfortune his
00:32:28.280
capture had i known it was to lay the foundations for my for my later life and it and it absolutely
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did but there's no question in my mind at least that he would have found a way there somehow somehow
00:32:41.740
all right we mentioned earlier candace that your previous book was about theodore roosevelt
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um his adventure down the river of doubt in the amazon um and churchill and roosevelt lived in
00:32:52.680
about the same time period some of that same era as you were writing about churchill did you find
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similarities that existed between him and roosevelt constantly i was constantly stunned by how much
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they were alike you know they're both um such incredibly ambitious and arrogant men they were
00:33:12.940
both incredibly well read they were both extraordinary writers um they were both born leaders you know they
00:33:20.560
i i think it's interesting to study people like this because i i really believe that to be a great
00:33:28.680
leader you have to be born a great leader and i think you know like any other skill you can learn it to
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some limited extent but um but i don't think that you can be a winston churchill or a theodore
00:33:41.840
roosevelt if you're not just born that way and it was really interesting to me just to quickly go
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back to the attack on the armored train as he's giving orders there comes a moment when um the
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the train driver jumps out of his cab and he's been hit by a fragment of a shell and he's bleeding
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and he's furious and he looks at churchill and he says look they don't pay me enough for this i'm not
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a member of the military and he's going to make a run for it and churchill realizes that if he does
00:34:10.460
then they have no hope because nobody else can can um drive the train and so he immediately
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gives him this sort of you know mini saint crispin's day speech you know look this isn't a terrible
00:34:23.560
thing this has happened to you this on the contrary this is an extraordinary and rare opportunity
00:34:28.600
and you can prove your gallantry you can prove your bravery and your devotion to your country if you get
00:34:34.480
back in that cab and if you do i will make sure that you're acknowledged for it and the guy looks at
00:34:39.880
him and says okay and he does and he turns around and he gets back in the cab and he does everything
00:34:45.700
churchill says and churchill's 24 and churchill's not even a member of the military so he just he not
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only was he himself deeply confident but it was something that was contagious he could he could
00:34:57.660
he could transfer that to whomever he was talking to or entire nations you know if if he believed in
00:35:04.680
you if he believed that you were brave that you're resourceful that you're extraordinary and you could do
00:35:09.440
extraordinary things you believed it too and you were capable of it well candace this has been a
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great conversation where can people learn more about your book oh thank you very much so they can
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go to my website candice millard.com or um they can just pick up a book anywhere awesome well candice
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millard thanks so much time it's been a pleasure i really enjoyed it thank you my guest today was
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candice millard she's the author of the book hero of the empire it's available on amazon.com and bookstores
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everywhere you can find out more information about her work at candice millard.com and also check out
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the show notes at aom.is slash millard that's m-i-l-l-a-r-d
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