#595: Everything You Need to Know About Creating a Home Gym
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Summary
In a time when the world is dealing with a pandemic, and many commercial gyms have shut down, interest in creating a home gym at home has swelled. Whether working out at home is something you ve been mulling over for a long time, or that you ve just started to think about, this show will help you decide if and how to move forward on the idea. My guest today is Koop Mitchell, founder of Garagegym Reviews, a website and social media community dedicated to reviewing personal gym equipment and inspiring people to workout at home.
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brett mckay here and welcome to another edition of the art of manliness podcast in a time when
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the world is dealing with a pandemic and many commercial gyms have shut down interest in
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creating a gym at home has swelled whether working out at home is something you've been
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mulling over for a long time or that you've just started to think about this show will help you
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decide if and how to move forward on the idea my guest today is koop mitchell he's the founder of
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garagegymreviews.com a website and social media community dedicated to reviewing personal gym
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equipment and inspiring people to work out at home koop and i begin our conversation unpacking the
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many benefits of having a home gym and talk about one of its potential downsides he then explains why
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it's generally a big mistake to go all in all at once on a home gym and how he recommends making
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the transition instead we then get into exactly what the startup cost of a home gym are and how
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it's likely less than you think koop shares specifics on what he thinks are the essential
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pieces of equipment to get cost breakdown on each and the companies that manufacture solid
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equipment at an affordable price we then turn to the issue of space and koop shares the minimum
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size footprint you'll need for your gym as well as solutions if you're working with a very small
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area or live in an apartment we end our conversation with suggestions for exercising even if you have no
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equipment at all after the show's over check out our show notes at awim.is garagegym
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koop mitchell welcome to the show happy to be here brett thanks for having me so you are the
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owner and proprietor of garage gym reviews it's a website social media accounts instagram where you
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review gym equipment for your garage how did you get started with this yeah so my dad had a garage
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gym growing up and it's actually the house that i bought and live in now so i have a garage gym in
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the same place my dad had a garage gym he was a power lifter i started to train for hockey and
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basically fell in love with the training and started to get into like competitive type of
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like training environments so like power lifting crossfit that sort of thing i realized i was paying
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like 150 bucks or something to go to this gym that you know i didn't love the equipment the coaching
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was just okay and i realized man i actually have a tweet from like 2012 or something and it was like
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if i only had a thousand bucks i could build an incredible home gym well fast forward i asked i think
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my wife at the time she's my girlfriend and i asked her if i for like a basic setup to get started
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for christmas and it was a squat rack a rogue sml2 squat stand a rogue ohio bar and some rogue hg 2.0
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bumper plates that was the first thing but i realized i'm like very eccentric and i like to like i don't
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do things halfway so i was like i've got to figure out a way how to get more of this stuff and how is
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that going to happen how can i make that happen and i started doing research and i realized nobody's
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really writing reviews or talking about gym equipment on the internet everybody's talking
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about tech doing reviews on phones tools that sort of thing but very few people were doing it
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anybody was doing it really on home gym starting home gym and the equipment like involved in it so i
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decided okay this is what i'm going to do i'm going to create a wordpress blog i'm going to write
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basically my best articles best reviews on products be as honest as i can and then i'm going to send
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these to companies as my quote-unquote portfolio to basically like get products so people would send
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me products and say hey i'll write this review for you well i started off by sending it to like the
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biggest companies i still have like emails from like big companies like a laco saying like what would
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we need you for you know like so we're not sending you any product but i would get a couple like jump
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ropes or like massage balls and things like that and i was like okay this is awesome like i'll just
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you know do my best work and maybe it'll like get better and better and better and over time it just
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grew it just like i'd write reviews and then i'd get another product or i'd buy a product i'd write a
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review we talk about on instagram started a youtube channel and the youtube channel kind of blew up
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started the website started putting more money into the website and creating a community around it
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and then started a facebook group the facebook group started blowing up and growing and just over
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time it just kind of like amassed to this point that now you know we just help people not only find
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equipment but also be inspired to you know start a home gym help them find the training they need for
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the home gym and everything around it but honestly my goal in the beginning i'd love to say it was just
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to help people and i just wanted to you know really do the right thing and help people but in reality
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i just wanted a garage full of gym equipment and over time that grew to the point where i can help
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people now and i can provide a lot of advice on the equipment that's out there does aleco now send
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you stuff yeah yeah yeah so it's kind of funny we actually did a video recently where they came out
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with a new spinning dumbbell and we dropped it off a 75 foot parking garage because they were trying to
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prove like although it spins it's also incredibly durable and they had this awesome marketing video
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where they were like dropping it off all these things and they like edited this video where they
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dropped it off a building and i would message them i was like there's no way you dropped that
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off the building like yes we did i was like how about like we recreate that so they said the dumbbell
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we dropped it off the parking garage and everything ended up okay it's pretty cool and for those who
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aren't don't aren't familiar aleco is like this they make high-end like competitive weights steel
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weights that are really expensive yeah yeah so they make like the most expensive barbells they're
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basically like the ferrari of gym equipment so the barbells that you see on the platforms for
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like the olympic trials or on the olympic stage are often aleco same with bumper plates everything
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like that very expensive very high-end and good quality yeah all right so right now we're in the
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middle of the covid pandemic and we were talking before the show the interest in garage gyms has
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skyrocketed because gyms across the country are shutting down to encourage social distancing so besides
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the bit you know besides social distancing in the time of a pandemic what are the other benefits
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of a of a home gym yeah so i like home gyms because there's no excuse for not working out i'm
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trying to remove as many barriers to me reaching my goals and i think people other people should as
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well so in in some regards it's like i'm kind of you know i recognize the areas in which i'm lazy
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and one of the areas in which i'm lazy is i don't really like to leave my home my i have an office at
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my home you know i like hanging out with my kids in my home you know i i mean that's where i spend
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most of my time and i think most people are that way so why would i have a membership where i have to
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drive somewhere and have to be around people that i don't know or don't necessarily like i've got to
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pay to use it to have bad equipment like i don't get to choose the equipment i get to use i got to wait
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for somebody else to use it when i could build a basic setup that's going to accomplish 90 of the
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training i need to do for under 1500 2000 bucks so one of the greatest benefits i think is you're
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saving time and by saving time you're saving money right so you're saving time in the fact that you're
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not having to drive somewhere you're saving time in the fact that like you get to get through the most
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efficient workout you can because you're not having to wait on people you're saving money because
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you know i know you've had mr money mustache on the podcast and he talks about this all the time
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but you're not having to like spend the resources to go somewhere which involves getting in your car
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and you've got car maintenance you've got gas you've also got the opportunity costs that are
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associated with spending time in the car when you could be spending that time on working out
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so you're adding on average most people around 15 to 30 to an hour extra time that you could be
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spending just on working out and then at home but you're having to go to the gym so one of the big
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benefits i think is not wasting time not wasting money and also it's always there so the home gym is
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always calling your name you walk by it all the time you know if it's in a separate room or if it's
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a basement or garage it's right there so every time you walk by it's calling out to you hey you can
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improve hey you can become better hey like come and get a workout in you don't have an excuse no longer
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can you say like right now with covid going on people are saying i can't go to the gym that's a
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great excuse for people to make because they literally can't but it's not a good excuse if
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you have the setup at home and here's the thing you're never really gymless you can always work
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out at home there's always something you can do at home there's some movement you can do but having
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the tools in your toolbox in order for you to accomplish your physical goals is a great way to
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accomplish them and i think a huge benefit to having a gym well that point you made about
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it removes the friction out of working out there's no longer excuse whenever we've had guests on the
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podcast to talk about how to form good habits that's one of the key things they talk about is
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make it as easy as possible for you to do the thing and by having the gym right in your home you've made
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it as easy as possible for you to go to the gym oh without a doubt yeah yeah you're removing those
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barriers entries i know do higgis talk about that in power of habit atomic habits they talk about that
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removing the barriers to entry in order for you to like progress move forward you have to recognize your
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limitations in the way in which you're lazy and i think having a home gym helps you achieve that
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and it doesn't the thing is it doesn't have to cost as much as people think i think that's
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like this barrier in people's mind is like i can't afford it i can't afford it i can afford payments
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but i can't afford a gym when in reality i think a better idea to look at it would be cancel your gym
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membership now do body weight work while you save the money you would be spending on your membership
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for a year or so you can be just as healthy doing that and then buy a home gym and i think you'd be
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much better off you'd have an asset that you could sell later on if you wanted and you're not paying
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the man you're not paying a membership this you know you're not financing your gym habit it's at your
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house and we'll talk about the startup cost for a home gym here in a bit but another benefit that i
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found of having a home gym and you talked about this a little bit too in your answer is that you get
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to customize what you have in your gym i know when i worked out at a gym that was one of the more
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frustrating things like there was a piece of equipment that i i wanted to use but they didn't
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have so i i couldn't do it or they wouldn't allow certain exercises right they wouldn't allow like
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olympic lifts or power lifting so you if you wanted to do that you couldn't do it but at a home gym you
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can yeah that's right yeah you can do any type of training in your home gym it's really only limited
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to the equipment that you buy so your budget and also your creativity so here's the thing there are
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more companies today selling gym equipment than there was at any time in history and the reason
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is largely thanks to crossfit which created the barbell revolution which then created like this
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functional movement so less machines less machines they take up less space they cost less so you can
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have more in your garage gym or your home gym and then beyond that it spurred this home gym revolution
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where now all these people they're breaking free from their memberships and they're customizing their
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gym to their training style so if like you you like to do power lift or strength lift i know you follow
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barbell logic that type of training you mostly squat deadlift bench overhead press and you have some
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accessory work it's all centered around a squat rack a platform a barbell and some weights and a flat bench
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that's a pretty basic setup you don't need all the things that you would pay for at a membership gym
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you don't need like a cable curl machine you don't need a preacher curl machine you don't need a ham curl
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all these like you know isolating movements you don't need that to get strong what you need is willpower
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and some basic tools and so you can buy whatever level of quality that you can afford or want to so if you
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want to buy a barbell with volcano type knurling that's 200k tensile strength steel knots or super
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stiff and put it on a rack with you know three by three inch uprights with one inch holes that are
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just massive you can do that but you could also get away with just buying a super simple setup it just
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depends on how you're training and that's not limited to just people that do basic training because
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there's a lot of people that body build and do that type of training in their gym they just get unique
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with the way that they come up with their their movements so they're building like we just posted
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two days ago a diy cable setup on youtube so for 25 bucks you can build a lat pull down that attaches
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to your rack you can build all that stuff so you can accomplish what you want to but yeah it all depends
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on your goals and what type of training and you can you know create that in your own home and another
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benefit you tout on your instagram page a lot is that a garage gym if you have kids you have a family
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it allows you to spend time with your family while you're working out so you know before if you're
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going to the gym like that wasn't time you were seeing your kids now with the gym in your house
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you can actually do this stuff with them and foster a culture of physical activity in your family
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yeah certainly yeah i mean i want to live i'm a father i've got two kids i've got a one-year-old
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and a soon-to-be three-year-old i'm a husband i'm sure a lot of your people listening are similar
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much of that and my main goal in life i mean at the top of my hierarchy of priorities is not fitness
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it's a little bit down the list but what is high up there are my kids and my wife and i want to make
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sure they know that i care for them that i love them and i don't want to just tell them what to do
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i want to show them what to do so you know it's it's it's a it's a leading from the front type of
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feeling so i don't want them to get older and me tell them hey you should work out when they've
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never seen me put in effort they've never seen me work out whereas now my kids are going to grow up
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just being around it just like i did they're just going to grow up being around it getting used to
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it hey mom and dad work out in the garage it's a part of our lifestyle we hang out there it's not
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like i oh i have to go to the gym today and get this workout i don't complain about it i enjoy it
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and they're a part of it so my son i've got like a three pound kettlebell he'll come out there and like
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do a couple swings i've got like these little cute two pound dumbbells he'll come out and do
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some deadlifts and he's like look dad i'm exercising and it's just i mean it's just awesome
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to see and it just allows me to have more quality time with them i mean i want i don't want like i i
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believe that it's not just quality that matters it's quantity and so i want to spend as much time
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with them as possible and if that's the case then you know why not bring my workouts home it's not like
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they're bugging me like i do a set and then i hang out with them it's not too difficult so yeah i mean
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for being a better father being a better mother i think a home gym i think it's it's one of the best
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things you can do because you're taking that time that you would be spending hours at the gym you're
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now spending with your kids in an environment that's healthy for you and healthy for them all right so
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we've been taught in the benefits of garage gyms home gyms so it saves you time saves you money
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removes the friction from exercise you can customize your gym how you want it to be
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and helps your family and social distancing what are the downsides of a home gym yeah so
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here's some of the downsides one of the downsides that i think a lot of people don't think about
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because they'll see like we post on instagram like cool gym setups and so it's exciting they get excited
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about having these things but they forget that oftentimes you're working out alone now you don't
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have to work out alone but i think you know a lot of home gym owners they end up spending a lot of
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their time working out is by themselves okay i always suggest inviting people over you know like
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inviting your neighbors friends training partners all that kind of thing is going to help you but a lot
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of the time you may be in there alone so what that means is if you're used to going to a crossfit gym
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or any type of like group exercise program where you're motivated by the other people you're training
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against or motivated by you know larry who's on the cable machine he's got big biceps and he looks
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over at you because you know he likes the movement you're doing and you know he thinks you know you're
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looking swole or whatever if that kind of stuff motivates you you're not going to get as much of
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that in the home gym i think there's a disadvantage there where it's less motivating and it's harder
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to do because there aren't people watching and it can also often be cold or hot depending on if you
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have your you know gym climate controlled if it's in the garage or shed outdoors things like that but
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on the flip side it has benefits to it because you're doing you know i know this is something you
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talk about teddy talks about this voluntary hardship so you're voluntarily doing something that's harder
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than i think you know you would ordinarily do it's harder to work out by yourself it's harder to
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work out alone it's harder to have that motivation but because you're doing that you're not only
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increasing your physical strength you're also increasing your mental strength so i think one of
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the biggest disadvantages to home gym is you are working out by yourself and you have to motivate
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yourself but i think if you spin it properly it can be a very good thing and a lot of people to be
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honest they like spending time alone so it's it's not a big deal all right so let's talk about
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starting a home gym when you've been doing this for a while and you've seen people start home gyms in
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themselves and you probably get lots of questions what are the biggest mistakes you see people make
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when they start a garage gym or a home gym yeah i think i think the biggest mistake is spending just
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an inordinate amount of money from the very beginning just going over the top and just buying
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as much as they can buying it all at once because they think they're going to enjoy it i like the idea
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of just dipping your toe in the water trying to decide if it's something you're actually going to
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stick to and like and then banking your purchases if you're just going to like stay at
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at a commercial gym never work out at home if you were spotty at working out at commercial gym
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chances are you're probably going to be spotty working out in your home gym too
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so don't also make a bad financial decision by buying all this equipment just because you want your
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garage or your home to look cool wherever your gym is so i would suggest like trying going out in
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your garage or wherever you're going to work out and just doing some body weight stuff buying some
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basic stuff like a pull-up bar or like some dumbbells or something and just like getting
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used to working out on your own while you have your commercial gym membership and then once you've
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decided hey i've got the mental fortitude to make this happen hey this is something i enjoy hey i've got
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the money to make it happen then dropping some money and you know building your home gym i think you know
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what i think that's one of the biggest mistakes i see is just people spending too much from the
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beginning however there's also the flip side of that and that is you because this equipment is so
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heavy it costs a lot to ship oftentimes so i'm kind of the opinion dip your toe in the water decide
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that you like to do it and then buy the equipment you want to make it happen because if you just buy a
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little bit at a time you're going to be paying extra for shipping whereas if you buy say if you go to
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rogue fitness or rep fitness or some of these other companies if you buy a rack or a certain
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amount of weight oftentimes they'll allow it to ship for free so then you can also throw on your
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plates your bar i mean we're talking about thousands of pounds worth of equipment and you can end up
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getting it shipping for free whereas if you did it separately you'd probably pay you know an extra
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500 to a thousand bucks just to have it shipped to your door what's that saying about crying once
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cry twice buy once cry once yeah buy once cry once so if you buy right the first time you know your
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wife slaps you once right so if you buy right the first time you won't have to continually go back
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and like upgrade or like sell stuff on craigslist or have stuff break and you have to buy something
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new you know if you buy right the first time you're not going to have to do it again you're going to
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have a better more enjoyable experience you're going to like using your space that's something that's
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another mistake is people not making a space that they enjoy to go to you should make your gym a
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space that draws you that you want to spend time in so you know some people they like you know it's
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not a home gym unless it's grungy and there's rust and chalk everywhere and dirt on the floor well
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personally i don't like going to places like that i like order and i like it to be kind of clean i like
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to be bright so i can see what i'm doing so i try to make my space accordingly so that i spend more
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time there whatever helps you spend more time there i think is going to be beneficial all right
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so the big mistake don't go all in right at the beginning and then also you may i think it's
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interesting point don't cancel your gym membership right away if you're thinking about doing this
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sort of transition there yeah definitely so dave tate he owns elite fts he's a powerlifting coach
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he used to train at west side barbell which is the strongest gym in the world he has a suggestion
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which i really like and that is just do some of your accessory work at home so if you're on a
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training program let's say you're powerlifting and you want to like you have weak hamstrings or weak
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quads or whatever and you want to bring those up or you have weak abs let's say then buy a ab roller
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and use that at home for your accessory work just dip your toes in a little bit at a time and then after
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you've decided okay i really want to do this you can build up over time i think you know not i think
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canceling your gym membership and going cold turkey like that's difficult for a lot of people there are
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people that can do that and if you can do that you know you can do that because you do that in other
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things but there's a reason nicorette gum is out there it's because people like they need to slowly
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wean off they need to slowly change so i think keeping your commercial gym membership and also you know
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having a home gym building it up over time i think that's a smart decision yeah that's what i did when
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i started the home gym i kept my gym membership and eventually phased out of it once i realized that
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yeah the home gym was what i would be doing yeah yeah i think i think that's what i think it's what
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most people find themselves doing did you when you built your home gym did you buy it all at once
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or did you kind of just get some basic items slowly no i got like this like the the basic setup so
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squat rack barbell plates that was it great and that's probably kind of what you have now do you
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have anything additional to that i've added some barbells like some specialty barbells we can talk
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about that and we talk about and what do you do after beyond the basics but that's it's pretty much
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the same not much i've added a platform that di'd wide that's it it's the same setup for the most part
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yeah that's how i think that's how most people are you realize like wow i go to the gym and there's
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like 500 machines well turns out i only really use 10 of them or five of them you know it's like
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i don't need all this extra stuff and you know that's where you can save money and
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have a home gym that's like a minimalist or a budget style all right so let's start everyone's
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listening this probably thinking when they people think garage and they probably they're probably
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thinking cost you say you can save some money doesn't really it isn't that expensive to start a gym
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what are the startup costs for starting a home gym yeah so one it depends on your training and
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your goals i would say first outline what your goals are is it to lose weight well you probably
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don't need as much strength equipment if you're trying to lose weight are you training for a
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marathon you know that sort of thing so first dial in your goals once you have your goals lined out in
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the style of training then you can decide your essentials but this is what i think the essentials
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for most people are i think most people should have a squat rack the reason you should have a squat
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rack is because one it allows you to lift safely two it allows you to do like some of the most
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beneficial movements in history which is like a back squat an overhead press a bench those sorts of
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things and it also allows you to do a pull-up so it's another place that you can do pull-ups
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you the squat rack is where a lot of your training is going to happen so you can buy a squat rack
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you can get squat racks that honestly i would recommend as cheap as 300 200 dollars in addition to that
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i think you want a nice barbell a nice olympic barbell because of the increase in barbell training
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they're much cheaper today so you can get a high quality made in the usa barbell for around 250 bucks
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if you don't want to main the usa barbell you can get them on amazon for around 150 or 200 and it still
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be quality in addition to that i think you should have a bench a bench allows you one a place to flat
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bench it also allows you a place to do dumbbell rows and shoulder presses and sit on in between
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sets that sort of thing you can buy an amazon basics bench that we reviewed and honestly can
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hold up to 600 plus pound benches for 50 bucks shipped to your door okay so super cheap and then
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in addition to that i think you want some weight plates so you want some weight plates to go on your
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olympic bar weight plates you can get iron or you can get bumper plates for most people who aren't
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doing olympic lifts they're not doing cleaning jerks and snatches what they're doing is they're doing
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squat deadlift bench overhead press and some rows and landmines some other like ancillary lifts i think
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you're fine getting iron and honestly i would suggest most people looking on facebook marketplace or
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craigslist for iron plates because iron is iron like yeah they can ship and break over time but most
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of the time they're gonna weigh what they do today the same that they weighed 10 years ago they may be
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a little bit heavier because they've had some shock on them and some blood other than that you know i mean
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they're pretty much the same like type of thing so i suggest looking on craigslist for iron plates
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getting a set that is a little bit more than your max lifts so that you have something to shoot for
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and then as you get stronger you can buy more plates so i suggest buying iron plates looking
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for iron plates for about 50 cents a pound on craigslist and then if you want to do addition
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to that there's a lot of other things you can buy like dumbbells you know incline benches all those
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sorts of things but i think in the beginning what you need is a squat rack a barbell a flat bench
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and olympic plates we're gonna take a quick break for your words from our sponsors
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and now back to the show and you actually you wrote a an article on our site a guest post last
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year about how to how to build a home gym on the cheap and you lay out exactly what you can get
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for a basic gym setup and it cost about eight hundred fifty dollars which i mean if you do the math like
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most gyms they cost what 59 to 79 dollars a month i mean in a year and a half you would have paid for
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that by quitting the the gym and just buying the stuff working out from home oh without a doubt and
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that's just that's what i like to get across people is that's just factoring in the cost that
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you hand over to the gym owner right that doesn't include the cost of the fast food that you often
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buy when you're going home because you feel good about yourself you did this work so i might as well
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stop in here real quick and get some food or the protein shakes that you buy at the gym or the extra
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equipment that you have to buy to use the gym or the time you have to spend to drive there or the time
00:27:09.080
or the money you have to spend for the gasoline in your car or the car maintenance all those sorts
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of things so although like an average gym membership is around that cost that doesn't include everything
00:27:18.780
else that people don't think about so in reality you can end up paying for your gym without losing
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money in probably about nine months worth of gym membership you can have a full setup of a home gym
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and if you buy right you're going to buy things that you can resell later on if you don't like it
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or if you want to upgrade so there's lots of as you said there's lots of companies out there making
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gym equipment for the home i mean like five years ago there wasn't this many for someone who's budget
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conscious say they don't have they don't they can't drop thousands of dollars to build a home gym
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what specific companies do you recommend they check out to find quality affordable gym equipment
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yeah so i suggest a few items that they spend money on and then other things don't matter as much so a barbell
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i think is really something that you should buy that's quality you should save up for something
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that's quality thankfully today that doesn't mean thousands of dollars like i said earlier you can
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get a made in usa barbell from rogue fitness who i would often suggest for barbells you can get a rogue
00:28:19.160
ohio bar or rogue ohio power bar or rogue bar 2.0 those are all of the best olympic bars best value
00:28:26.740
powerlifting bars that we often suggest you can get those for around 250 bucks shipped to your door
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that's a company i would suggest looking for barbells for squat racks and that sort of thing
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i would suggest looking at rep fitness fringe sport or titan fitness not because i don't like
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rogue fitness for those things but i think you can get a chinese made rack and it's going to get you
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pretty much a long way there and it's going to be safe and work and everything like that but it's
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going to be a lot cheaper so titan fitness fringe sport rep fitness for that sort of thing
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plates same thing so i would actually suggest if you want iron plates cap barbell on amazon
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that's a cheap company that makes you know they've been making standard barbell iron plates for
00:29:09.800
decades okay the design hasn't changed there's not really much innovation to happen with a 45 pound
00:29:15.860
plate of steel i would look to cap barbell on amazon or some of those other companies for those
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and then benches again rep fitness titan fitness fringe sport bells of steel is another company
00:29:27.880
if you want to go to a higher end you can go to some of those like rogue fitness sore necks
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aleco prime fitness those sorts of companies but i think for most people those lower cost options for
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those items i would look to like a titan fitness rep fitness fringe sport bells of steel those sorts of
00:29:47.060
companies for those items yeah when i started my garage gym it was pretty much all french sport i got
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introduced to them via atomic athlete they're based in austin and french sport pete the owner of it is
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also based in austin that's how i got introduced got my rack it was no frills but it kept me safe i
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had hit lots of prs on it it worked barbell i used great i got the rubber plates from them as well
00:30:09.620
still using those it's been five years fantastic oh that's that's the thing is to be honest a lot of
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the upgrading that happens isn't because you necessarily need it you know it's like a car
00:30:21.240
for instance most people that drive jeeps they're not going off road with them they just like them
00:30:26.220
because they look cool they can take the top off that sort of thing this i mean it's the same thing
00:30:31.080
for gym equipment the more you spend the benefits that's going to come from it the you know it's not
00:30:37.020
going to be as much as going from a five dollar barbell to a hundred dollar barbell right so if you want
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to spend more money and you want those features they're cool to have and they can be helpful and
00:30:48.980
you like looking at them and they feel better they may be able to hold a little bit more weight
00:30:53.480
but to be honest squat racks most of them are two by three or three by three uprights made of 11 gauge
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steel with some holes in them there's really not that much variance between them so you can buy
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something cheap and honestly get away with it for the rest of your life and upgrade if you want to
00:31:10.940
i just know most people they like to have nicer things they like to have things they can show off
00:31:15.220
and things that they can enjoy using more so they'll end up spending more money but you don't
00:31:20.220
have to it's not a need it's just a one well i upgraded my squat rack recently and the only reason
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i upgraded was because my uh reynolds my barbell coach had started having me do like stuff with bands
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as i was lifting so i needed pegs where i could put the loop the bands through and then put them on the
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barbell and i couldn't do that with the the fringe sport rack so now i have the rep rack it's fantastic
00:31:41.800
i like it a lot it's awesome and i gave the uh the rep my fringe rack to a buddy and he it's still
00:31:47.440
he's still using it oh yeah and the thing is you got that rack because you wanted to do use band pegs
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but the fact of the matter is you could get by not doing banded lifts or you could get heavy dumbbells
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and secure the bands to the heavy dumbbells and then secure them to the bar if you really wanted
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to right so you know it's just like you don't have to do those things they add nice convenience
00:32:11.060
features but really a home gym you're limited to your creativity less than you are your budget i was
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actually using dumbbells for a while and i just it was getting annoying having to do that so i i went
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for the pegs yeah it definitely band pegs are definitely helpful more secure all right so you don't
00:32:28.420
spend a lot 850 bucks that's uh less than an iphone well here's a question you mentioned a lot of these
00:32:32.800
brands like affordable brands fringe titan rep they're made in china are they seeing issues with
00:32:38.000
the covid thing disrupting supply chains etc oh without a doubt yeah so pretty much everybody i mean all of
00:32:45.120
these companies are importing some form of equipment like rogue fitness for instance the bumper plates
00:32:51.020
they're selling they're made in china like nobody really in the u.s is making bumper plates due to the
00:32:56.540
working conditions required to make them so all of these companies all these home gym companies or
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just gym equipment companies in general they're going to be feeling some sort of heat so they've got
00:33:07.560
orders probably that in china they're not shipping they're not being made as quickly they're sitting
00:33:12.200
on the shores because they've had you know china's had quarantines out for a while so there is going to be
00:33:18.680
a stock issue especially with how much demand is happening home gyms right now like in march
00:33:25.800
2020 more people are buying gym equipment than really any other time of the year except for
00:33:31.140
maybe black friday so it's basically a black friday in march but the issue is there's more limited
00:33:37.920
stock because there's difficulty getting it into the country so if you're going to start a home gym
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right now if you want to start one it's probably best to order now and i'm not saying that because
00:33:48.460
i'm just trying to get you to buy stuff i'm saying that because if you want one you may not be out of
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luck on a lot of items because we're already seeing a lot of bumper plates and bars and racks
00:33:57.920
that are coming from china they're already going out of stock because companies they didn't foresee
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this happening i mean who did right they didn't foresee this happening so they don't have a stock
00:34:07.120
to keep up with the demand so we mentioned stuff you can buy affordable gym equipment you on the site
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you and on your instagram page you talk a lot about diy equipment is there any stuff that you
00:34:19.440
recommend that people build themselves they can get away with and use yeah i think anything that
00:34:24.600
you see that's like fun or adds an extra movement to your training you should try and make a diy
00:34:31.600
version of it see how you like it before you buy one so for example some cheap ones that are off the
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top of my head a slam ball okay a slam ball or an atlas stone you can make a hundred pound slam ball
00:34:42.900
using a 16 inch uh four square ball so you buy a four we've got we've got diy instructions for all
00:34:49.400
this stuff on the website but if you have a four square ball you can buy off amazon 16 inches for
00:34:54.720
maybe like i don't know 12 bucks or something you can fill it with 100 pounds of sand use a like a
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tire repair kit to repair the hole you can rack it wrap it in duct tape if you want you got a hundred
00:35:06.340
pound bag of sand there's a lot of stuff you can do with that another one is a cable pulley system
00:35:11.280
you can make a cable pulley system with a simple pulley some cable some like one-eighth inch cable
00:35:17.980
and a plate post that you make out of black iron with a pipe flange on it there you go you have a
00:35:25.320
diy plate post an axle bar that's another one you can get schedule 40 pipe from home depot get some
00:35:32.060
flanges some plastic like tube flanges to basically be your olympic sleeve collars and then you have an
00:35:38.260
axle bar things like that i think are great to build there's there's all sorts of like stuff i
00:35:43.560
would suggest building for like storing items like storing your dumbbells most people shouldn't buy
00:35:48.880
things to store items they can just make them out of wood or things like that you know and you can
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have a fun time doing it as well chop your wood it'll warm you twice so those sorts of things are
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things that i would suggest making i wouldn't suggest most people making a squat rack although we do have
00:36:05.320
diy options for that i just think the safety there you're better off buying one and they're cheaper
00:36:10.120
i've seen some pretty nice diy squat racks made of wood on your instagram page oh yeah they're they're
00:36:15.800
cool the issue is what happens is those holes that are used for the j cups and the spotter arms
00:36:22.620
if enough weight put on there they end up getting loose and that bar can end up falling off i i feel safe
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in a wooden squat rack it's just the amount of lumber required to make a power rack that's safe
00:36:34.940
you could get a squat stand delivered to your door for not much more or are there any pieces of gym
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equipment you think are just gimmicky that you don't think people should skip oh there's so much i mean
00:36:44.080
there's so many people trying to capitalize on this market that they come out with stuff that's
00:36:48.800
completely you know you don't need so i wouldn't fall into it you know like you have like the obvious
00:36:55.280
ones like shake weight and some of those other as seen on tv type pieces of gym equipment that
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obviously i would avoid i think i think anything that doesn't that i wouldn't categorize as a as a
00:37:12.640
essential could be seen as a fad so there's a couple things like lever arms or jammer arms personally
00:37:18.860
i like jammer arms they're these arms that attach to the front of the rack and allow you to do like
00:37:23.760
these movements similar to a landmine they work well the difficulty is most people should not be
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buying those until they have a full-on squat rack barbell and all the other basics and then even then
00:37:37.620
there's other attachments they should buy so i would be weary i wouldn't say there's so much fads
00:37:42.820
but i'd be weary spending a lot of money on things like belt squats jammer arms monolith attachments
00:37:50.320
different things that attach to your rack because you're probably not going to use them as much as
00:37:54.920
the other things and your money's better spent on buying a nicer barbell a nicer squat rack that
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sort of thing once you have those laid out then you can go after the more you know fun cool fad type
00:38:05.000
stuff and that's what i've done with i haven't added really fad stuff but i've over the years i've added
00:38:09.800
like specialty barbells whenever my training has not necessitated it but it would be nice to have so
00:38:15.200
like now i have a deadlift bar right so it's a little bit longer so you can it has more bend to
00:38:21.820
it i've added a i got the curl bar what do you call the thing it's like the curly q looking thing
00:38:27.560
yeah easy curl bar an easy i got an easy curl bar now i've added the duffalo bar oh that's a good
00:38:33.580
bar which is yeah it's really nice it's great for squatting whenever my bicep tendonitis flares up
00:38:37.560
kind of take some pressure off the elbows and i got a safety bar so it's that thing where you got
00:38:42.160
the handles there i also have that and that's that's pretty much all i've added i've also added
00:38:47.200
a what else i've added the box squat thing so i've added that night and i again when i when i buy this
00:38:53.820
stuff i try to like find affordable options so the box squat i got from some website in new york
00:39:00.360
i don't know the name of the company but like their website was like it looked like it was built in
00:39:03.620
1995 new york barbells new york barbells i love that i got it from there it was super affordable
00:39:08.540
i love their website because they haven't changed it all and it works great it's like it was a lot
00:39:13.260
it's a lot it was a lot cheaper and a lot it weighed less than the rogue version so shipping
00:39:18.120
was less too oh without a doubt yeah things like that you don't need to spend a lot of money on
00:39:22.500
because you're just looking for a place that you can sit down on there's not a lot of safety involved
00:39:26.940
you know i mean it's just a square box so spending like as little money on pot as possible on those
00:39:32.840
things that's super smart i have the rogue squat box to be honest it's pretty annoying because
00:39:37.580
it's so big and heavy you don't want to move it around like you're going to get an injury trying
00:39:41.420
to deadlift that thing and move it around so yeah i think cheaper items like that it's a great idea
00:39:45.900
and there's so many smaller companies out there now where i mentioned some companies and there's
00:39:50.620
just hundreds of others that are selling either one-off products or have specialty stuff like you
00:39:55.840
mentioned the duffalo bar kabuki strength making some of the best specialty bars in the world
00:40:00.660
that's another great option but really that's after you've decided like you did like i've committed to
00:40:06.600
this i really enjoy it it's a great part of my life i want to add some items let me start buying
00:40:11.120
these specialty bars that can increase your experience hit your body a little bit differently
00:40:15.240
but in reality you could probably get by and get just as strong and fit using a barbell yeah it took
00:40:20.760
me about three years before i started buying specialty barbells yep so yep that's a i mean that's a that's
00:40:26.800
more than most people most people it's like you know a couple months six months they're buying them
00:40:31.600
by that time after three years you know you're committed and yeah there's no reason or no issue
00:40:37.500
buying a bunch of extra stuff all right so let's talk about another issue that people might have so
00:40:42.260
we've we've solved the money problem like isn't it expensive 850 dollars you're paying that a year at
00:40:48.280
the gym what about space yeah so here's what i like to say is the more space you have that's the more
00:40:56.340
options you have to train but you don't have to necessarily have a ton of space so i've got a
00:41:02.760
friend his name's john call he his instagram name is jujimufu he's got a few million followers on
00:41:09.200
instagram one of the reasons he got popular in the beginning was because he was working out in his
00:41:14.080
kitchen so he literally off the dining room he lived in an apartment off the dining room right behind his
00:41:20.700
dining room table he had a squat rack and that's where he stored all this stuff that's where he did all
00:41:25.140
his workouts and he has like a 650 pound deadlift so he got really strong in a very small space
00:41:30.820
honestly the really the amount of space you need is about a nine by nine room you need nine by nine
00:41:37.600
because a barbell is about seven feet long you need about a foot on each side to put plates on
00:41:42.980
and you know you need some room out in front of the rack to work other than that you probably want
00:41:49.360
height depending if you're doing overhead press you know you can do a short ceiling room you just can't
00:41:53.900
stand up and do overhead press you have to sit down for it but i think in a small like small room if
00:42:00.060
you have an apartment or things like that there's also options that allow you to fold things up into
00:42:04.340
the wall so there's a company called prx performance based out of fargo north dakota and they have these
00:42:09.700
racks that fold up four inches they stick four inches off the wall when they're folded up and then
00:42:14.420
you can fold them down to use them so if you have a garage that you like to park in you just fold it
00:42:19.080
up it's got shocks on it helps you fold it up sticks up against the wall you can park your car
00:42:23.580
when you're ready to use it pull your car out pull the rack down you're ready to go so i would say you
00:42:28.860
know having about a nine by nine room and buying essentials again buy a squat rack buy a barbell buy
00:42:34.840
plates buy a bench you can get extra stuff as you have more space or as you have more money but you're
00:42:40.660
going to get just a fine workout in there for cardio that's something i haven't really hit on yet
00:42:45.480
most home gym owners they don't have a lot of cardio pieces you can have things like air bikes
00:42:51.300
rowers treadmills however those all take up quite a bit of space when most people you can just go
00:42:58.300
outside and hit hill sprints or go for a run do a jump rope things like that that's what i would start
00:43:04.360
with and then if you want to add some things like an air bike a rower go for it i would suggest that
00:43:10.140
most people don't buy treadmills because they take up a lot of space they're expensive
00:43:14.780
and they absolutely suck to work on they break all the time if you go to a commercial gym they
00:43:20.280
have a maintenance man they're on staff i guarantee you whose sole job is to fix treadmills they break
00:43:25.920
down that much so you mentioned uh jimunjifu was that i know jiji mufu jiji mufu he's the guy like
00:43:32.720
the really buff guy that does backflips yeah and he does splits on chairs with like barbells over his
00:43:37.240
head things like that this is what happens in the age of instagram so like he did this in an apartment
00:43:42.740
like what if you live like on the second floor of an apartment can you can you barbell lift there
00:43:46.800
are you gonna like or is the deadlift your deadlift bar gonna go through the ceiling through the floor
00:43:50.720
no no most most i mean you gotta understand the way that we at least in america the way that
00:43:56.200
buildings are coded they have to stand up to a lot of weight so although if you're on a second floor
00:44:02.620
i probably wouldn't suggest like dropping a barbell overhead i don't think you're gonna have much of a
00:44:08.260
problem doing deadlifts and there's also there's lots of platforms available or different rubber
00:44:13.420
tiles that can suppress the sound and the vibration we actually have a diy one we posted on instagram
00:44:18.860
not too long ago of uh basically using carpet pads to create like these different layers of a platform
00:44:25.400
so if you drop the bar it's not like making a ton of noise shaking the house bugging your neighbors
00:44:31.340
that sort of thing but i see it all the time people have gyms in their second floor of their apartment
00:44:36.720
and they're just doing like squat deadlift bench that sort of thing some basic barbell exercises
00:44:42.180
as long as you're setting the weight down gently and you're not you know squatting over a thousand
00:44:46.880
pounds i think you're going to be fine and if worse comes to worse say if you don't have the budget for
00:44:51.420
eight hundred fifty dollars your space is limited or you your apartment doesn't allow you to have
00:44:56.700
barbells on the second floor i mean you can get away with and you you've written about this stuff on
00:45:01.260
your site a kettlebell some rings you hang up in your doorway uh some bands like there's things you
00:45:07.660
can do and have a garage or a home gym and get a great workout without having to have a full setup
00:45:12.900
oh without a doubt i think the i think the best minimalist gym options that like there's are there
00:45:18.960
are guys that do calisthenics body weight type training that are incredibly strong have incredibly
00:45:24.300
good body control and have amazing physiques would honestly they would you know in many regards would
00:45:32.140
look better than many bodybuilders so i don't i don't think you have to have a ton of stuff you can
00:45:38.480
get by with olympic rings like you mentioned i love olympic rings there's a lot of things you can do
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with those pull-ups muscle-ups levers all different sorts of upper weight body stuff and then you can get
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by with kettlebells for lower body doing swings you can have a single kettlebell and some olympic
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rings and get incredibly strong incredibly fit you can also just go outside and lift things like i know
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that's kind of hard for some people to view but you know a lot of our ancestors they didn't get strong
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by having a you know a climate controlled gym in their garage you know they went outside and they were
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working in the fields they were lifting railroad ties they were doing all this manual labor to get strong
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and you can do the same thing go pick up a big rock go pick up some logs go move some you know some
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i don't know hay bales whatever like you can get fit and strong without you know doing the conventional
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way of going into a box gym and working out and i think that's what home gym owners are starting to
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realize is i don't have to bring the whole gym into my home i can bring some things into my home and
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then the rest of the time maybe i'll go outside and go for a hike and lift things outside and enjoy nature
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you can still hike even in the age of covid exactly yeah you can hike and bike nobody's
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quarantined you there yet so yeah well even like i learned like shelter in place you're hearing this
00:46:56.200
phrase i was like what does that mean like you're stuck in like you can still go outside for exercise
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you got to stay six feet away from people exactly exactly yeah so go for a hike go down to the river
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you know go for a bike ride those sorts of things those are now like open to you right outside of
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your gym door so what do you think the future of home gyms is going to look like after because of
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i mean i think this thing like this moment right now i think it's going to cause a change oh without
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a doubt this one is super fun we've seen the rise of companies like peloton peloton now like they
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basically brought a spin cycle class into your home if you haven't used a peloton and you like spin
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classes you've got to try one they are amazing you literally feel like you're there live in the class
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but you can be wearing your pajamas doing it at home okay but i think companies are starting to
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take that idea and do it for other types of equipment as well so there's a company called
00:47:52.220
hydro that's making a similar model but it's for a rower similar to peloton there's a company called
00:47:58.420
tonal we have a tonal in my actually my bedroom right now that my wife used a lot of times she
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absolutely loves it and the idea is they use cables for all the movements you can do up to 100 pounds
00:48:09.880
in each arm but it's like basically a video screen where you're having a trainer train you
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through movements it automatically calculates your reps automatically like dials in like how much
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weight they're putting on the cables and it works just extremely well you don't have to think about
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it you just go in turn it on and you can get an incredible workout there's other companies like
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mirror that are doing this i think the idea is again removing barriers to entry it's making it so
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people can work out in their home get just as good of a workout as they could at a personal trainer i
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mean i also own a personal training gym that's the thing like like we i have a gym where we train people
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i have a commercial type gym but the thing is the future is home gyms and the future is bringing that
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experience home and so all these companies are making ways where they can train people at home via video
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all the technology that we have and get just a good of workout so i think that's only going to
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increase it's only going to snowball it's just started but it's going to grow dramatically well
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where can people go to learn more about what you do yeah so i'm at garage gym reviews on pretty much
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every platform so that includes instagram facebook on youtube garage gym reviews and a lot of what our
00:49:25.660
stuff happens on the website garagegymreviews.com so if you want reviews you want to be inspired
00:49:31.280
all those sorts of things we have a lot of stuff coming out would love to help you and then if you want
00:49:35.900
to join like a community of people we have a facebook group called the home gym community
00:49:39.960
that you can join and you know get inspired and find other people that are training and be
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accountable to fantastic well koop mitchell thanks for your time it's been a pleasure thanks brett
00:49:48.920
appreciate it my guest today was koop mitchell he's the founder and owner of garagegymreviews.com
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