The Art of Manliness - November 25, 2025


A Butler’s Guide to Managing Your Household

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Charles McPherson spent two decades as the major domo, or chief butler, of a grand household. He s also the founder of North America s only registered school for butlers and household managers, and the author of several books drawn from his butlering experience.

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00:01:13.740 A Butler's Guide to Managing Your Household. 0.66
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00:01:24.220 Brett McKay here, and welcome to another edition
00:01:34.240 of the Art of Manliness podcast.
00:01:36.460 It's a tough job to manage a household.
00:01:38.640 Things need to be regularly fixed, maintained, and clean.
00:01:41.880 How do you stay on top of these tasks
00:01:43.200 in order to keep your home in tip-top shape?
00:01:45.280 My guest knows his way all around this issue
00:01:47.220 and has some field-tested insider advice to offer.
00:01:50.140 Charles McPherson spent two decades
00:01:51.740 as the major domo or chief butler of a grand household.
00:01:54.960 He's also the founder of North America's
00:01:56.460 only registered school for butlers and household managers
00:01:58.920 and the author of several books
00:02:00.560 drawn from his butler-ing experience,
00:02:02.280 including The Butler Speaks,
00:02:04.040 a return to proper etiquette,
00:02:05.700 stylish entertaining, and the art of good housekeeping.
00:02:08.840 In the first part of our conversation,
00:02:10.640 Charles charts the history of domestic service
00:02:12.380 and describes why the practice of having servants
00:02:14.320 like a butler are made ebbed in the mid-20th century
00:02:16.600 but has made a comeback today.
00:02:18.740 We then turn to what average folks
00:02:20.080 who don't have a household staff
00:02:21.280 can do to better manage their homes.
00:02:23.920 Charles recommends keeping something
00:02:24.940 called a butler's book
00:02:25.800 to stay on top of household schedules
00:02:27.280 and maintenance checklists.
00:02:28.780 We then discuss how to clean your home
00:02:30.140 more logically and efficiently.
00:02:32.120 Charles shares his golden rules of housecleaning,
00:02:34.380 the cleaning task you've probably neglected.
00:02:36.500 Hint, go take a look at the side
00:02:38.120 of the door of your dishwasher.
00:02:39.880 It's a surprising choice for best product
00:02:41.220 you use to clean your shower,
00:02:42.560 how often you should change your bedsheets,
00:02:43.960 and much more.
00:02:45.100 After the show's over,
00:02:45.920 check out our show notes at awim.is slash butler.
00:02:48.360 All right, Charles McPherson, welcome to the show.
00:03:05.080 Thank you very much.
00:03:05.760 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:03:06.960 So you have served as a professional butler
00:03:09.220 for over two decades,
00:03:10.480 and you now run an organization
00:03:12.480 that trains butlers
00:03:14.120 and other professional domestic staff.
00:03:16.180 And I think most people,
00:03:18.200 when they think of butlers,
00:03:19.920 they think of butlers as men
00:03:21.240 who served English aristocrats
00:03:23.260 and American robber barons,
00:03:25.080 you know, the 19th and early 20th centuries.
00:03:27.440 But butlerine is still alive and well today.
00:03:30.700 And I want to talk about what it looks like today.
00:03:32.520 But before we do,
00:03:33.300 can you kind of give us a brief history
00:03:34.760 of domestic service?
00:03:36.840 What was it like 100 years ago?
00:03:38.840 When did it reach its peak, et cetera?
00:03:41.520 So that's a great question,
00:03:43.120 because I think understanding history
00:03:44.320 allows us to really understand
00:03:45.540 where we are today.
00:03:46.660 So, you know, let's very briefly start back,
00:03:48.860 you know, 150 years ago or so.
00:03:50.540 We're in the Victorian era.
00:03:51.980 Queen Victoria is on the throne.
00:03:53.800 And there is a huge amount of domestic staff.
00:03:56.660 In fact, it's the second largest employer,
00:03:59.220 if you will, in the United Kingdom
00:04:00.620 compared to farming after right after farming,
00:04:02.800 which is number one.
00:04:04.280 And so these people are required
00:04:06.260 that the amount of domestic staff are required
00:04:08.140 because the homes of the day
00:04:10.300 didn't have running water,
00:04:11.840 didn't have electricity.
00:04:13.260 And so for the wealthy to live,
00:04:15.100 as we all know, when we watch PBS
00:04:16.840 and, you know, watch, you know,
00:04:18.180 Agatha Christie and so on,
00:04:20.580 that took a mountain of people
00:04:22.400 to be able to undertake.
00:04:24.140 And so that's the height
00:04:25.620 of the most number of domestic people.
00:04:28.140 And then we go, you know,
00:04:28.880 Queen Victoria dies, her son, King Edward,
00:04:31.240 you know, so we go into the Edwardian era,
00:04:32.900 World War I.
00:04:33.580 And now for the first time in history,
00:04:34.900 we have people leaving domestic service.
00:04:36.520 And so all of a sudden,
00:04:38.420 this is when men start
00:04:39.560 to leave domestic service, really.
00:04:41.360 And so now this is where, you know,
00:04:42.800 women are starting to really become prominent 0.68
00:04:44.400 in domestic service.
00:04:45.380 And they're now serving
00:04:46.420 at the dining room table,
00:04:47.220 which society is shocked by
00:04:49.000 to see a woman in the front of the house. 0.95
00:04:50.940 And then all of a sudden, you know,
00:04:52.000 we go through World War II.
00:04:53.360 Now we're into the 1950s.
00:04:55.000 And all of a sudden,
00:04:55.840 the world has changed.
00:04:57.420 And, you know,
00:04:58.120 there is now the modern conveniences
00:04:59.800 based on the war.
00:05:00.800 So we have clothing that's available.
00:05:02.220 We have food that's available.
00:05:03.280 We can go to grocery stores.
00:05:04.320 And so being in domestic service
00:05:06.700 is a dying art.
00:05:07.720 And as we go into the 60s,
00:05:08.920 into the 70s,
00:05:09.720 there is no one going into domestic service.
00:05:12.240 It really has come to an end.
00:05:13.640 And it's just the very few that are left.
00:05:15.780 But then we get into, you know,
00:05:17.060 1980 and Ronald Reagan becomes president.
00:05:19.140 Margaret Thatcher becomes prime minister.
00:05:20.780 And we have Reaganomics.
00:05:22.100 And now we have a huge amount of wealth
00:05:23.820 that's being created
00:05:24.660 by a very small group of people.
00:05:27.460 And so as they acquire their wealth
00:05:29.460 and they start to acquire toys
00:05:31.280 of homes and boats and airplanes,
00:05:34.060 you know, they want to live comfortably.
00:05:36.080 And so all of a sudden there's,
00:05:37.160 you know, well, let's hire a butler. 0.79
00:05:38.280 But there really are no butlers
00:05:39.480 except some old timers.
00:05:40.840 And so all of a sudden
00:05:42.420 there's this demand for butlering
00:05:44.140 and people start to go back
00:05:46.220 into private service.
00:05:47.780 And so all of a sudden,
00:05:48.820 you know, as we get into,
00:05:49.880 you know, 2000 and up,
00:05:51.300 all of a sudden there's a huge amount
00:05:53.180 of demand for private service
00:05:55.180 because the wealthy continue
00:05:56.820 to be wealthy
00:05:58.320 and to generate money.
00:05:59.780 So it's incredible
00:06:01.360 the career that it's become.
00:06:03.360 And so now it's really a career
00:06:05.020 where you can make a lot of money
00:06:06.080 and where it's no longer,
00:06:08.500 you know, being in servitude
00:06:09.620 like you were 150 years ago.
00:06:11.320 But being in domestic service today
00:06:12.980 is actually an honorable career.
00:06:14.740 And so it's really interesting
00:06:16.100 how it went from the height
00:06:17.500 to almost being extinct
00:06:19.040 in the 60s and early 70s.
00:06:21.060 And now all of a sudden
00:06:21.960 here we back are at 2024
00:06:23.600 and there is more demand
00:06:25.680 for domestic service
00:06:26.920 than can actually meet.
00:06:28.340 So the supply,
00:06:29.420 we just don't have the supply.
00:06:30.640 That's interesting.
00:06:31.540 So at its peak,
00:06:32.320 you know,
00:06:32.620 when in the Victorian era,
00:06:34.200 when you had just
00:06:34.900 a household of staff,
00:06:36.020 if anyone's seen Downton Abbey,
00:06:38.400 they've probably,
00:06:39.400 that's what people typically
00:06:40.980 think of domestic service.
00:06:41.980 Like how many people
00:06:43.220 did a typical aristocrat
00:06:45.260 have in their home?
00:06:46.420 Well, so, I mean,
00:06:47.080 you know,
00:06:47.340 when you think about it,
00:06:48.000 it really comes down
00:06:48.640 to what was the size of the house.
00:06:50.260 But I mean,
00:06:50.560 some people could have,
00:06:51.500 you know,
00:06:51.880 20, 30, 40, 50, or 100.
00:06:53.840 So it was all,
00:06:55.080 you know,
00:06:55.200 remember, you know,
00:06:55.860 farming was all done by hand.
00:06:57.120 So there was a huge amount
00:06:57.960 of people on the estate
00:06:59.160 just dealing with the farms,
00:07:00.740 which generated income
00:07:01.840 for the estate.
00:07:02.720 But to run the inside
00:07:03.800 of the household,
00:07:04.880 you know,
00:07:05.080 there's no microwave,
00:07:05.960 there's no fridge,
00:07:06.780 there's no electric mixer.
00:07:08.100 So, you know,
00:07:08.680 just in the kitchen alone
00:07:09.620 to be able to produce
00:07:10.340 the meals they did,
00:07:11.140 you needed an army of people.
00:07:12.240 And then the washing
00:07:13.080 of all the dishes
00:07:13.800 and all that stuff
00:07:14.300 was done by hand,
00:07:15.000 of course,
00:07:15.820 because there are
00:07:16.140 no dishwashers,
00:07:17.020 there's no electricity.
00:07:18.500 And so those houses,
00:07:19.740 you know,
00:07:19.960 often had 20, 30,
00:07:21.520 sometimes 40 people
00:07:22.420 because that's how much
00:07:23.980 staff it took
00:07:24.640 to be able to make
00:07:25.560 all that happen.
00:07:27.060 And the butler at that time,
00:07:28.100 like his job
00:07:28.620 was just to oversee that,
00:07:30.440 manage all that?
00:07:31.460 So the butler at the time,
00:07:33.000 so if we go,
00:07:33.620 you know,
00:07:33.880 in the 1800s,
00:07:35.080 the butler at that period
00:07:36.340 is really,
00:07:37.480 yes,
00:07:37.880 he's running the household
00:07:39.060 and he's the one
00:07:40.340 who serves that table
00:07:41.540 and he's the lead,
00:07:42.980 but he's really running
00:07:44.380 the front of the house.
00:07:45.480 So he's running everything
00:07:46.380 that the guests
00:07:46.960 and the family see.
00:07:48.660 And it's the head housekeeper 0.99
00:07:49.940 who runs the back
00:07:51.300 of the house,
00:07:52.020 who is dealing
00:07:52.880 with the housekeepers
00:07:53.540 and the laundry
00:07:54.100 and all that kind of stuff.
00:07:55.520 And then chef
00:07:56.060 was responsible
00:07:56.840 for the kitchen.
00:07:57.840 And if you were really fancy
00:07:59.260 back then,
00:07:59.620 you had a French chef
00:08:00.460 that was de rigueur
00:08:01.620 of the time.
00:08:02.320 So butler really
00:08:03.000 is front of the house,
00:08:04.140 head housekeeper
00:08:04.660 is back of the house
00:08:05.440 and chef is the kitchen.
00:08:06.440 So it's still interesting
00:08:07.600 that there's still three
00:08:08.500 very senior positions,
00:08:09.780 but the butler
00:08:10.420 ultimately was responsible
00:08:11.980 for overall everything.
00:08:13.740 And then you highlight
00:08:14.440 in this history
00:08:15.340 that you did
00:08:15.660 of domestic service
00:08:16.800 that in the 19th century
00:08:18.580 and early 20th century,
00:08:19.800 there's all these
00:08:20.640 really detailed guides
00:08:22.220 written by butlers
00:08:23.560 and other domestic servants
00:08:24.820 on how to do
00:08:26.240 what they do
00:08:26.760 with the professionalism.
00:08:28.000 Like they really
00:08:28.440 took their job seriously.
00:08:30.920 Yes, absolutely.
00:08:32.160 And I think that,
00:08:32.760 well, you know,
00:08:33.400 what's interesting
00:08:33.940 is that when,
00:08:34.920 you know,
00:08:35.560 Mrs. Beaton
00:08:36.180 wrote her book
00:08:37.360 on household management
00:08:38.340 in 1861,
00:08:39.540 that's considered
00:08:40.400 the first self-help book
00:08:41.880 to ever be written.
00:08:42.960 And that was,
00:08:43.540 you know,
00:08:44.100 as, you know,
00:08:44.760 we've gone through
00:08:45.580 and we get
00:08:46.140 the first industrial revolution,
00:08:47.280 we're getting into
00:08:47.860 the second industrial revolution
00:08:48.860 in the 1870s.
00:08:50.120 So all of a sudden,
00:08:51.340 you know,
00:08:51.720 we have the birth
00:08:52.500 of this middle class
00:08:53.480 and so they want to live
00:08:54.740 but the problem is
00:08:55.220 they don't know how to live.
00:08:56.940 And so Isabel Beaton
00:08:58.060 writes this book
00:08:58.840 on household management
00:08:59.800 teaching the middle class
00:09:01.440 how to run a home
00:09:02.500 and if they are lucky enough
00:09:03.940 to have a servant
00:09:04.920 or two,
00:09:06.200 how to manage them
00:09:07.260 and so on.
00:09:08.140 So it's actually
00:09:08.920 quite interesting.
00:09:09.600 So as that first book
00:09:11.120 kind of takes popularity
00:09:12.220 and it is still in print today,
00:09:13.620 which is quite interesting.
00:09:15.020 And that is,
00:09:16.260 then, you know,
00:09:16.980 we have other people
00:09:17.640 who see that
00:09:18.420 and everyone kind of
00:09:19.240 jumps on the bandwagon
00:09:20.220 and everyone says,
00:09:21.040 well, if she can write a book,
00:09:22.320 I can write a book.
00:09:23.100 And so that's where
00:09:24.160 you have all these books
00:09:25.000 being written
00:09:25.540 in the late 1800s,
00:09:26.860 early 1900s.
00:09:28.000 But I think it's interesting
00:09:28.960 speaking of how
00:09:30.100 domestic service
00:09:31.220 started to wane
00:09:32.120 in the 20th century.
00:09:33.840 I think it's interesting
00:09:34.420 that whenever I read
00:09:35.420 biographies
00:09:36.580 or histories
00:09:37.280 of famous people
00:09:38.120 who were,
00:09:39.280 you know,
00:09:39.460 they weren't rich.
00:09:40.300 They were probably
00:09:41.040 solidly middle class,
00:09:43.160 maybe upper middle class.
00:09:45.240 Even in the early
00:09:46.220 20th century,
00:09:47.140 they would usually
00:09:48.420 have a maid
00:09:49.340 and a cook
00:09:49.980 and you rarely
00:09:51.040 see that today.
00:09:52.520 Well, I mean,
00:09:52.760 when you think about it,
00:09:53.520 again,
00:09:53.940 those homes
00:09:54.840 were hard to manage.
00:09:56.100 They didn't necessarily
00:09:56.700 have running hot water.
00:09:58.320 A lot of things
00:09:58.960 were still,
00:09:59.400 you know,
00:09:59.880 oil lamps
00:10:00.620 and so or candles
00:10:01.540 at nighttime.
00:10:02.120 So all that had to be
00:10:03.000 taken care of
00:10:03.480 into the dust
00:10:04.060 and the soot,
00:10:04.940 which is actually how,
00:10:05.700 you know,
00:10:06.020 spring cleaning came to be
00:10:07.080 because everything
00:10:07.420 was closed up all winter.
00:10:08.360 And so you had all
00:10:09.100 this soot and dust
00:10:09.820 in the house
00:10:10.300 and your lighting
00:10:11.240 implements.
00:10:12.360 But, you know,
00:10:13.640 if you were middle class,
00:10:14.220 you usually at least
00:10:14.860 had a housekeeper
00:10:15.640 or I should say a maid.
00:10:17.900 A housekeeper is different 0.98
00:10:18.740 from a maid.
00:10:19.320 They're two different things.
00:10:20.500 What's the difference?
00:10:21.680 So a housekeeper 0.99
00:10:22.780 is truly a professional
00:10:24.160 who is able to manage
00:10:25.500 the household,
00:10:26.160 if you will.
00:10:27.040 You know,
00:10:27.340 employees can report to her
00:10:28.640 where a maid
00:10:30.260 is just the worker bee,
00:10:32.200 if you will.
00:10:32.880 The maid isn't
00:10:33.600 in management position.
00:10:35.120 So the management position
00:10:35.880 is really the housekeeper
00:10:37.060 or the head housekeeper. 1.00
00:10:38.740 Okay.
00:10:39.260 And so, yeah,
00:10:40.100 through the mid-20th century,
00:10:41.560 many middle,
00:10:42.900 upper middle class families,
00:10:44.300 had that,
00:10:44.840 but then eventually
00:10:45.420 it went away.
00:10:46.540 Well, it went away
00:10:47.260 because, you know,
00:10:47.800 the world is changing.
00:10:49.120 First of all,
00:10:49.720 you know,
00:10:49.920 the cost is becoming prohibitive.
00:10:51.820 But what's fascinating
00:10:52.680 is that during World War I
00:10:53.940 and World War II,
00:10:55.020 we were able to mass produce
00:10:57.280 to be able to keep
00:10:58.160 the war machines going.
00:10:59.200 When the war comes to an end,
00:11:00.540 there's this excess
00:11:01.360 of capacity for production.
00:11:03.900 And so that's why
00:11:04.840 all of a sudden
00:11:05.460 foods and clothing
00:11:06.900 and everything
00:11:07.340 become so readily available
00:11:08.860 after World War II
00:11:10.240 because the capacity
00:11:11.600 of these factories
00:11:13.240 is there
00:11:13.820 and they have
00:11:15.040 nothing else to do.
00:11:15.780 And so they start
00:11:16.200 producing for the mass markets.
00:11:17.560 And as we get
00:11:18.140 the birth of the middle class
00:11:19.600 that continues to grow
00:11:20.660 in the 1950s,
00:11:22.420 it allowed you
00:11:23.400 to be able to function
00:11:24.620 without staff.
00:11:25.980 Right.
00:11:26.240 Because you have
00:11:26.560 washing machines,
00:11:27.420 dryers,
00:11:28.000 vacuum cleaners.
00:11:29.080 Exactly.
00:11:29.780 All those things
00:11:30.160 are starting to come in.
00:11:31.080 And so, you know,
00:11:31.820 those appliances
00:11:32.480 that are saving time.
00:11:34.100 You know, at the time,
00:11:35.060 when you think about it,
00:11:35.820 particularly in America,
00:11:36.720 you know, the dream
00:11:37.240 was, you know,
00:11:37.580 2.2 kids and a dog
00:11:38.700 and a white picket fence
00:11:39.480 and mom stayed home 0.64
00:11:40.340 and took care of the house
00:11:41.540 while dad worked.
00:11:42.740 And so she kind of
00:11:43.680 fairly or unfairly,
00:11:44.900 you know,
00:11:45.120 becomes the mate
00:11:46.020 and takes over.
00:11:46.960 But at least she has
00:11:47.640 the appliances
00:11:48.240 to be able to make it easier.
00:11:50.700 It's not easy,
00:11:51.560 but to make it easier.
00:11:52.880 Okay.
00:11:53.060 So domestic service
00:11:54.060 started going down
00:11:54.880 throughout the 60s
00:11:55.760 and 70s.
00:11:56.300 But then in the 80s,
00:11:57.320 you started to see
00:11:57.740 the revival of it.
00:11:59.220 How did you get involved
00:12:00.400 in butlering?
00:12:01.800 And then how did you learn
00:12:02.620 how to be a butler
00:12:03.280 when like it kind of
00:12:04.160 became a lost art?
00:12:05.680 So what's fascinating
00:12:06.620 is that in the 1990s,
00:12:08.320 you know,
00:12:09.000 I was in the catering business.
00:12:10.780 I was in the off-premise
00:12:11.700 catering business.
00:12:12.320 And one of my clients
00:12:13.160 was one of Canada's
00:12:14.640 wealthiest families
00:12:15.400 that every Canadian
00:12:16.040 knows and loves.
00:12:17.600 And I had mentioned
00:12:19.120 to the lady of the house
00:12:19.820 one day just in conversation
00:12:20.780 that I was thinking
00:12:21.220 of maybe leaving
00:12:22.480 the catering world
00:12:23.520 and to do something else.
00:12:24.480 And she said,
00:12:24.880 oh my God,
00:12:25.260 what are you going to do?
00:12:25.860 And I said,
00:12:26.040 I haven't figured it out.
00:12:27.400 And she said,
00:12:27.720 well, you know,
00:12:28.760 Rick, my butler
00:12:29.560 is going to be leaving soon.
00:12:30.660 So why don't you come
00:12:31.400 and work for me?
00:12:32.060 And so I said,
00:12:32.740 well, let me think about it.
00:12:33.560 And I told my mother,
00:12:34.480 my mother said,
00:12:34.900 absolutely not.
00:12:35.500 I don't want you
00:12:35.860 to be a servant.
00:12:36.540 I said,
00:12:36.720 well, I think it's a good job.
00:12:37.660 And I thought about it.
00:12:39.500 And of course,
00:12:39.920 I did the opposite
00:12:40.840 of what my mother recommended
00:12:41.780 and I took the job.
00:12:43.580 And so it was the lady
00:12:44.280 of the house
00:12:44.640 who taught me how to buttle.
00:12:45.780 And so that,
00:12:46.380 you know,
00:12:46.540 that is a verb
00:12:47.240 that is,
00:12:47.760 you can use correctly.
00:12:49.620 And so every week
00:12:50.700 she would give me lessons
00:12:51.580 on, you know,
00:12:52.360 how do you drive the car
00:12:53.500 so the person in the backseat
00:12:54.540 isn't nauseous?
00:12:55.220 Or how do you get
00:12:55.880 the grass stains
00:12:56.540 out of her children's
00:12:57.400 t-shirts and jeans?
00:12:58.920 What's the difference
00:12:59.540 between a breakfast table,
00:13:00.580 a luncheon table,
00:13:01.300 a dinner table?
00:13:01.880 Where does the oyster fork go?
00:13:03.100 How do you open the door
00:13:03.820 for someone?
00:13:04.660 How do you take their coat?
00:13:05.480 How do you put their coat back on?
00:13:06.620 How do you walk with someone
00:13:07.380 with an umbrella?
00:13:08.300 It was quite fascinating.
00:13:09.240 So after a year,
00:13:10.120 I was the major domo
00:13:11.440 for the household.
00:13:12.380 The family had three homes.
00:13:13.820 I had up to 30 full-time staff
00:13:15.240 that were reporting to me
00:13:16.260 throughout the year.
00:13:17.440 And it was really
00:13:18.240 an incredible opportunity.
00:13:20.000 And I call it
00:13:21.140 my Shirley MacLaine,
00:13:22.120 you know, moment.
00:13:22.700 I don't know if there really
00:13:23.340 is reincarnation,
00:13:24.540 but if there is such a thing,
00:13:25.740 if I am fortunate enough
00:13:27.380 to be reincarnated
00:13:28.280 from a previous life,
00:13:29.240 I was very lucky.
00:13:30.120 I was either a butler
00:13:30.800 or a nobleman
00:13:31.560 who had a butler
00:13:32.280 because the career,
00:13:34.580 this career just seems
00:13:35.440 so logical to me
00:13:36.560 and so evident
00:13:38.060 of just what to do.
00:13:39.100 It was never a mystery.
00:13:40.120 As I was learning,
00:13:41.040 it just,
00:13:41.540 I realized that
00:13:42.360 what my job was about
00:13:43.340 was logic
00:13:43.900 and just to think about
00:13:44.740 what's logical.
00:13:46.220 And that's really
00:13:46.960 how my education became
00:13:48.800 was because of this lady
00:13:49.940 and just continuing
00:13:51.260 to learn on my own
00:13:52.120 and meeting others.
00:13:54.200 So back 150 years ago,
00:13:56.020 the duties of a butler
00:13:56.800 was to take care
00:13:57.320 of the front of the house.
00:13:58.420 What are the duties
00:13:59.040 of a butler in 2024?
00:14:00.920 What's the typical?
00:14:02.080 So, you know,
00:14:02.920 in 2024,
00:14:03.920 the butler is now
00:14:04.960 an expensive commodity,
00:14:06.380 but the butler
00:14:07.440 is actually managing
00:14:08.380 the household.
00:14:09.480 And so some households,
00:14:10.920 the butler may be
00:14:11.560 in the front of the house
00:14:12.320 for serving.
00:14:13.460 In some households,
00:14:14.420 the butler doesn't serve.
00:14:15.420 The butler is purely
00:14:16.120 an administrative position.
00:14:17.120 But when you think about it,
00:14:18.500 the butler is actually
00:14:19.300 managing the household
00:14:21.160 from a perspective
00:14:22.040 of that the average household
00:14:24.740 spends more money
00:14:26.200 and has as many
00:14:28.120 or more employees
00:14:29.040 than very small businesses
00:14:30.440 in the U.S.
00:14:30.940 So you're really
00:14:31.460 a business person
00:14:32.260 taking care of a business.
00:14:34.280 And so you're taking care
00:14:35.040 of everything from
00:14:35.680 whether it's staff management,
00:14:37.560 whether it's, you know,
00:14:38.880 putting together
00:14:39.500 operational manuals
00:14:40.760 of how the household
00:14:41.380 is going to run,
00:14:42.060 when are things cleaned
00:14:42.800 and when are things maintained,
00:14:44.200 taking care of accounts,
00:14:45.540 you know, when plumbers
00:14:46.820 are coming or electricians
00:14:47.780 to fix things
00:14:48.360 because things always
00:14:49.080 break down in those homes,
00:14:50.540 making sure that those bills
00:14:51.420 are authorized for payment
00:14:52.860 and that that work's
00:14:53.580 been completed,
00:14:54.680 you know, making sure
00:14:55.400 that the household
00:14:56.780 is running.
00:14:57.320 And so the butler today
00:14:58.540 really is trying to be
00:15:00.500 at least one or two steps
00:15:02.340 ahead of their employer
00:15:03.260 to always be thinking
00:15:04.520 and anticipating
00:15:05.180 what's going to happen,
00:15:06.480 what needs to happen
00:15:07.400 for the family.
00:15:08.780 And so it's quite
00:15:09.840 fascinating actually,
00:15:11.220 but it's not as much
00:15:12.300 of a service role,
00:15:13.340 but it is a very detailed role.
00:15:15.540 That keeps you really busy.
00:15:16.880 You know, when you think
00:15:17.640 of these large homes,
00:15:18.660 they're actually commercial
00:15:19.680 facilities with the amount of,
00:15:21.660 you know, when you're talking
00:15:22.340 about 10, 20, 30,
00:15:23.620 40,000 square feet,
00:15:24.820 we're talking about
00:15:25.480 commercial cooling units
00:15:26.840 and commercial kitchens.
00:15:28.700 And so it becomes complicated.
00:15:31.040 It's not just the little furnaces
00:15:32.360 that, you know,
00:15:33.100 you and I grew up with
00:15:34.760 and probably still
00:15:35.620 have in our homes today.
00:15:37.100 So it sounds like a butler today
00:15:38.580 is like a chief operations officer.
00:15:41.300 That's a great way
00:15:42.060 to put it.
00:15:42.520 Absolutely.
00:15:43.760 Does domestic staff
00:15:44.920 still live with homeowners
00:15:45.880 like they did a century ago?
00:15:47.800 Oh, great question.
00:15:48.860 And so the answer is no.
00:15:50.100 Domestic staff today
00:15:51.140 have a life.
00:15:52.420 They have a family
00:15:53.220 and so they don't live in.
00:15:54.960 And in fact,
00:15:55.640 it's hard to find people
00:15:56.920 who want to live in.
00:15:57.980 And if you're going to live in,
00:15:59.200 you actually can make more money
00:16:00.420 than if you live out
00:16:01.120 because that's considered
00:16:01.760 a premium
00:16:02.300 to be able to live in
00:16:03.780 versus live out.
00:16:05.120 Okay.
00:16:05.360 The way you've made it sound like
00:16:06.460 is that being a butler
00:16:07.700 or being on domestic staff,
00:16:09.060 like this could be a lucrative,
00:16:10.300 very fulfilling career.
00:16:11.220 Oh, absolutely.
00:16:12.580 I mean,
00:16:13.080 where can you go
00:16:13.840 to butler school,
00:16:14.660 which is, you know,
00:16:15.240 four, six, eight weeks
00:16:16.360 and, you know,
00:16:17.260 you walk out with a job
00:16:18.380 starting at $65,000,
00:16:19.420 $70,000 a year
00:16:20.700 and a good butler
00:16:22.540 by the time they're
00:16:23.500 within five years
00:16:24.460 with the right experience,
00:16:25.920 they're at $100,000,
00:16:26.540 $125,000 plus benefits,
00:16:29.180 full benefits
00:16:29.960 and a retirement plan.
00:16:31.740 And we have butlers 0.69
00:16:32.500 that are making
00:16:33.080 anywhere from
00:16:33.600 a quarter of a million
00:16:34.340 to $350,000 a year
00:16:36.680 based on the home
00:16:37.680 that they're managing
00:16:38.240 and the work that they do.
00:16:39.640 So you can make
00:16:41.000 a lot of money
00:16:41.860 if you're good at it
00:16:43.120 and there's nothing
00:16:43.740 to be ashamed of.
00:16:44.620 I think it's an honorable career
00:16:46.080 to be able to manage a household
00:16:48.180 and what I love is,
00:16:49.580 you know,
00:16:49.780 as I jokingly say,
00:16:50.880 but it's, you know,
00:16:51.700 you're kind of seeing history happen,
00:16:53.200 you know,
00:16:53.480 from being a fly on the wall
00:16:55.080 and watching, you know,
00:16:56.280 the movie stars
00:16:56.940 or the captains of industry
00:16:58.080 or the politicians
00:16:58.900 that are coming to the household
00:16:59.960 for your family
00:17:00.640 and, you know,
00:17:01.740 seeing what's happening
00:17:02.520 and knowing what's going to happen
00:17:03.580 before the rest of the world
00:17:04.780 knows what's happening
00:17:05.460 and I think it's pretty fascinating.
00:17:07.300 I think it's a really great career
00:17:08.680 and I think a lot of people
00:17:09.840 don't actually think of it
00:17:10.960 as a genuine career.
00:17:13.620 So you've written several books
00:17:15.080 based on your insights
00:17:16.280 and experience as a butler
00:17:17.580 that can help the average person
00:17:19.580 who might not,
00:17:20.320 might not be able
00:17:21.080 to afford a butler,
00:17:22.000 how they can improve
00:17:22.900 different facets of their lives
00:17:24.080 and I want to focus
00:17:25.240 on this conversation today
00:17:26.900 on what we can learn
00:17:28.620 from butlers
00:17:29.240 about managing a home
00:17:30.720 and making it
00:17:32.280 not only a place
00:17:33.040 that runs efficiently,
00:17:34.260 but it's pleasant
00:17:35.520 to spend your time in
00:17:36.660 and I start off,
00:17:37.940 you talk about
00:17:38.580 that butlers traditionally
00:17:40.160 had this thing
00:17:40.860 called the butler's book.
00:17:42.660 What's the butler's book?
00:17:43.880 What sort of information
00:17:44.580 does a butler keep
00:17:45.440 in a butler's book?
00:17:46.860 So the butler's book
00:17:47.540 is really the Bible
00:17:48.400 for the butler
00:17:49.000 of how the household run
00:17:50.080 and it keeps track
00:17:51.360 of everything.
00:17:51.960 So whether it's,
00:17:53.020 you know,
00:17:53.480 contractors' telephone numbers
00:17:54.620 or how do you use
00:17:56.000 the remote control
00:17:56.940 to go from the DVD player
00:17:58.520 to the satellite dish
00:17:59.520 to regular cable television
00:18:00.920 so that you've got
00:18:01.880 kind of like the cheat sheets
00:18:02.760 in there
00:18:03.180 or you've got
00:18:04.280 household schedules
00:18:05.200 of when employees
00:18:06.580 are working.
00:18:07.640 You have things
00:18:08.600 like inventory.
00:18:09.640 So for example,
00:18:10.340 in my butler book,
00:18:11.060 one of the things
00:18:11.340 that I used to keep
00:18:12.000 was all the inventories
00:18:13.020 of the different Chinas
00:18:13.900 so that when we were
00:18:14.640 entertaining
00:18:15.000 and when I'd be sitting
00:18:15.780 with Mrs. in a meeting 0.97
00:18:17.060 and the chef
00:18:17.740 and we'd be discussing
00:18:18.940 about a party
00:18:19.440 that would be coming up
00:18:20.120 and, you know,
00:18:21.020 everyone would say,
00:18:21.560 well, you know,
00:18:22.260 it would be nice
00:18:23.340 to use the green dishes
00:18:24.300 for that thing
00:18:25.120 and then I'd be able
00:18:25.800 to look in my butler's book
00:18:26.880 and say,
00:18:27.160 well, there's 36 people
00:18:28.660 coming for dinner
00:18:29.200 and we have 35 dinner plates
00:18:30.620 so we're short a plate
00:18:31.600 so either we have to change
00:18:32.560 to a different service
00:18:33.300 or I have to go buy
00:18:34.000 some more of this green service
00:18:35.020 if I can find it
00:18:35.820 kind of scenario.
00:18:36.900 So, you know,
00:18:37.540 you keep cheat sheets
00:18:38.300 like that that are there
00:18:39.140 for you
00:18:39.520 or master things on,
00:18:41.240 you know,
00:18:41.400 when are you taking care
00:18:42.380 of certain inventories
00:18:43.840 or mechanical things
00:18:45.300 around the household
00:18:45.780 or what are the spring
00:18:46.780 cleaning projects
00:18:47.540 and all that kind of stuff.
00:18:48.180 So all that's
00:18:48.780 in the butler's book.
00:18:49.780 So the butler's book
00:18:50.840 really is the Bible.
00:18:51.860 It's the one place
00:18:52.680 when you need something,
00:18:53.460 that's where you go.
00:18:55.260 And I actually can see
00:18:55.960 this being useful
00:18:56.640 for just anybody
00:18:57.660 who has a house.
00:18:58.920 Oh, absolutely.
00:18:59.960 Absolutely.
00:19:00.460 Yeah, my wife
00:19:01.000 and I run in that experience
00:19:02.300 where, you know,
00:19:02.980 we're hosting a party
00:19:03.860 and we think,
00:19:04.880 well, do we have this thing?
00:19:07.220 And I'm like,
00:19:07.680 well, I don't know.
00:19:08.340 We kind of,
00:19:08.700 we have to spend
00:19:09.300 30 minutes looking for it
00:19:11.080 and like,
00:19:11.320 well, we can't find it.
00:19:12.220 So let's go buy another one.
00:19:13.540 So you buy another one
00:19:14.300 and then after the party happens,
00:19:15.660 like, oh,
00:19:16.060 here's this thing
00:19:16.620 that we were looking for.
00:19:17.460 We just wasted money.
00:19:19.040 Exactly.
00:19:20.160 No, but I think
00:19:20.860 the butler's book
00:19:21.440 would be able to tell you
00:19:22.540 the kind of thing
00:19:22.920 where you keep those things
00:19:23.920 and as long as you put them
00:19:24.620 back where you're supposed to,
00:19:26.140 then you're in good shape.
00:19:27.020 But the butler's book
00:19:28.080 is really this tool
00:19:29.480 that makes you more efficient
00:19:31.540 and more successful
00:19:32.520 at doing what you want to do.
00:19:34.660 So what sorts of information
00:19:35.480 do you think
00:19:35.780 are just a lay person
00:19:36.620 should keep in their own
00:19:37.620 butler's book
00:19:38.520 for their household?
00:19:39.760 I think that just keeping
00:19:40.920 simple things
00:19:41.960 like all your telephone numbers
00:19:43.160 for, you know,
00:19:43.900 the plumber,
00:19:44.480 the electrician,
00:19:45.180 you know,
00:19:45.580 where is the electrical boxes
00:19:47.040 if you have more than one
00:19:48.040 in your household
00:19:48.560 and where's the main disconnect
00:19:49.680 to turn the power off
00:19:50.720 and, you know,
00:19:51.620 when do you open your pool
00:19:53.260 if you have a swimming pool
00:19:54.180 and when do you close it?
00:19:55.540 You know,
00:19:55.660 so kind of keeping a calendar
00:19:56.720 or when do you want
00:19:58.100 to clean the e-strops?
00:19:59.480 When do you want to be able
00:20:00.300 to deal with certain things
00:20:01.040 in the yard
00:20:01.460 or when do you want
00:20:01.980 to clean the windows
00:20:02.640 or put the storm windows on
00:20:04.140 or take the storm windows off?
00:20:05.720 When do you want to do
00:20:06.480 a bit of a deep clean
00:20:07.240 inside the house?
00:20:07.980 And so what's interesting
00:20:08.680 is that when you start
00:20:09.940 to look at all these projects,
00:20:11.700 when you look at the calendar,
00:20:13.280 it allows you to be able
00:20:14.380 to spread it out
00:20:15.620 throughout over the year
00:20:16.440 so that there isn't one month
00:20:17.840 where, you know,
00:20:18.560 you have nothing to do
00:20:19.600 and the following month,
00:20:20.880 you know,
00:20:21.220 you can barely keep up.
00:20:22.840 So that's what's great
00:20:23.520 about the calendar
00:20:24.400 within the butler's book
00:20:25.300 is that it allows you
00:20:26.440 to kind of to plan things
00:20:27.300 so that way,
00:20:28.240 you know,
00:20:28.400 you can plan things
00:20:29.160 ahead of time.
00:20:29.720 So you know that,
00:20:30.740 you know,
00:20:30.900 you want to have
00:20:31.460 your windows washed in April
00:20:33.280 and so in January or February
00:20:35.240 as you're just kind of
00:20:35.960 looking ahead of things
00:20:36.700 that, you know,
00:20:37.080 you want to do,
00:20:37.940 you say,
00:20:38.240 oh, you want to,
00:20:38.580 let's schedule
00:20:39.240 the window cleaner now
00:20:40.040 and let's get it done
00:20:40.720 so that at least
00:20:41.760 they're scheduled
00:20:42.300 so it's not the last minute
00:20:43.220 when you're trying
00:20:43.580 to get a hold of
00:20:44.020 when everyone else is.
00:20:45.660 And so the butler's book
00:20:46.720 is really there
00:20:47.420 as a tool
00:20:48.020 to help you plan
00:20:49.680 and just to remind you
00:20:50.760 of what needs to be done.
00:20:52.600 Where do you recommend
00:20:53.060 keeping your butler's book?
00:20:54.860 Is this in a physical book
00:20:56.480 that you keep around?
00:20:57.260 Well, traditionally
00:20:58.260 the butler's book
00:20:58.900 was always kept
00:20:59.480 in the butler's pantry
00:21:00.260 which is between the kitchen
00:21:01.740 and off the dining room
00:21:02.900 kind of scenario
00:21:03.600 but most of us
00:21:04.760 don't have butler's pantries today
00:21:06.100 so I always love it
00:21:07.740 in the kitchen somewhere
00:21:08.640 because I think
00:21:09.100 that's where everyone
00:21:09.680 can find it
00:21:10.280 and I'm also a really
00:21:11.660 firm believer
00:21:12.280 that the butler's book
00:21:13.660 is a living,
00:21:14.340 breathing document
00:21:14.960 and so you shouldn't
00:21:16.340 be afraid to write in it
00:21:17.420 when something changes
00:21:18.440 or when you learn something
00:21:19.900 and so maybe it's something
00:21:21.680 that just is always
00:21:22.300 kind of handwritten
00:21:23.020 or maybe,
00:21:24.000 you know,
00:21:24.300 once a year
00:21:24.880 you sit down
00:21:25.540 and you type out
00:21:26.280 all the changes
00:21:27.060 and then you just
00:21:27.540 print off a clean copy
00:21:28.540 but I think that
00:21:30.140 the butler's book
00:21:30.720 needs to be in a place
00:21:31.480 where everyone knows
00:21:32.340 where it is,
00:21:33.060 everyone has access to it
00:21:34.460 and where you're not afraid
00:21:36.400 to write in it
00:21:37.320 to update information.
00:21:38.540 And I was doing some research
00:21:40.680 before this conversation
00:21:42.240 about modern butler's book.
00:21:44.120 There's actually software
00:21:45.160 that modern butler's
00:21:47.060 can use these days
00:21:48.340 where they basically
00:21:49.020 create a butler's book
00:21:50.420 but it's in the cloud.
00:21:51.780 So I know a lot of butler's
00:21:53.540 for really affluent families
00:21:55.360 who have maybe
00:21:56.220 two, three, four homes.
00:21:58.560 They have to know
00:21:59.420 what's going on
00:21:59.960 in all these different homes
00:22:00.740 so they have all this stuff
00:22:01.980 just on the internet.
00:22:02.800 Yes, but I'm not
00:22:06.340 a firm believer
00:22:07.460 in things becoming
00:22:09.000 overly computerized
00:22:09.920 in a household.
00:22:10.540 I think that
00:22:11.000 it becomes overly complicated
00:22:12.980 and you end up being
00:22:13.680 a data entry person
00:22:15.280 versus a manager.
00:22:17.180 And so I'm actually
00:22:18.720 a real firm believer
00:22:19.520 that the butler's book
00:22:20.640 as an example
00:22:22.220 should just be
00:22:23.340 in a three ring binder
00:22:24.380 that's in a place
00:22:25.720 where everyone knows
00:22:26.300 where it is.
00:22:27.180 Now you can keep
00:22:27.820 the master document
00:22:28.920 in a word file
00:22:30.400 for example
00:22:31.320 that's in the cloud
00:22:32.220 so that you can check it
00:22:33.420 from wherever you are
00:22:34.620 if you need to look
00:22:35.180 something up.
00:22:36.280 But I'm not a firm believer
00:22:37.540 that everything should be
00:22:38.380 in the cloud
00:22:38.720 because if the power goes out
00:22:40.660 or you can't turn
00:22:42.120 the computer on
00:22:42.800 for whatever reason
00:22:43.540 how are we going to access
00:22:44.560 this information in the cloud
00:22:45.700 while we're in this
00:22:46.260 emergency kind of scenario?
00:22:48.480 I think the theory
00:22:49.560 is always really great
00:22:50.760 and this great fantasy
00:22:52.420 but I don't think
00:22:53.080 it actually works in reality.
00:22:54.860 And so I think
00:22:55.680 it's much easier
00:22:56.320 to be able to have it
00:22:58.360 printed where
00:22:59.580 you can take the book
00:23:00.920 with you
00:23:01.300 to the mechanical room
00:23:02.760 that's telling you
00:23:03.660 how to do something
00:23:04.680 so you can follow the steps
00:23:05.940 I think just makes it easier.
00:23:08.980 So you mentioned
00:23:09.460 one of the things
00:23:10.200 you can keep in a butler's book
00:23:11.320 is a calendar
00:23:12.160 of home maintenance.
00:23:13.420 I know it's going to vary
00:23:14.280 from location to location
00:23:15.660 and home to home
00:23:16.400 but generally
00:23:17.320 what sort of
00:23:18.780 home maintenance regimen
00:23:20.020 do you recommend
00:23:20.620 people keep
00:23:22.360 to keep their home
00:23:23.560 running in tip-top shape?
00:23:25.100 So I think you need to
00:23:26.020 first of all
00:23:26.360 think about where you locate it.
00:23:27.700 So for example
00:23:28.120 if you're going to be
00:23:28.840 for example in Florida
00:23:29.800 or you're going to be
00:23:30.420 somewhere warm
00:23:31.100 you're going to have
00:23:31.940 obviously very many
00:23:32.660 different requirements
00:23:33.760 than if you are going
00:23:34.980 to be up in the north
00:23:35.840 where there's snow
00:23:36.560 for example.
00:23:37.820 So first of all
00:23:38.900 based on your physical location
00:23:40.260 if so let's you know
00:23:41.700 where there's snow
00:23:42.500 which is where I happen
00:23:43.260 to be right now
00:23:44.100 you know
00:23:44.840 the butler's book
00:23:45.920 would say to me
00:23:46.660 in October for example
00:23:48.280 okay so you need to get ready
00:23:49.820 because winter's coming
00:23:50.720 so do you have salt?
00:23:52.080 Do you have sand?
00:23:53.120 Do you have a good brush
00:23:54.720 to take the snow off the car?
00:23:56.260 Do you have enough
00:23:57.080 windshield washer fluid?
00:23:58.080 So it kind of gives you
00:23:59.100 those checklists
00:23:59.980 of things to do
00:24:01.160 as you get ready
00:24:02.300 so that once you have
00:24:03.400 that first snowfall
00:24:04.500 it's not a panic
00:24:05.720 kind of scenario
00:24:06.760 of not being ready for it
00:24:08.960 or you know
00:24:09.860 you're going to
00:24:10.900 the hardware store
00:24:11.720 to go and get sand
00:24:12.800 or salt or whatever
00:24:13.440 and it's all sold out
00:24:14.220 because everyone's
00:24:15.020 you know
00:24:15.240 thinking at the last minute
00:24:16.600 and then when you're down south
00:24:18.320 you know
00:24:18.800 simple things like
00:24:19.560 you know
00:24:20.060 how do you get your house
00:24:20.700 ready for hurricane season
00:24:21.740 if you're in Florida
00:24:22.400 for example
00:24:22.960 or what do you need
00:24:24.300 to think about
00:24:24.800 if you're in Arizona
00:24:25.620 you know
00:24:26.100 from a temperature perspective
00:24:27.220 you know
00:24:27.960 from the outside
00:24:28.680 of the physical house
00:24:29.900 what are you going to do
00:24:30.720 for the air conditioning unit
00:24:31.940 does it need an overhaul
00:24:33.000 once a year
00:24:33.580 and if so
00:24:34.040 what time of the year
00:24:34.980 are you going to do that
00:24:35.760 so I think you start
00:24:37.540 with the location
00:24:38.840 of where your house is
00:24:39.620 and then the kind of home
00:24:40.780 you have
00:24:41.280 you know
00:24:41.680 whether it's an apartment
00:24:42.380 or whether it's a physical house
00:24:44.100 or a townhouse
00:24:44.780 or whatever
00:24:45.140 everything needs
00:24:46.400 some kind of maintenance
00:24:47.480 and so
00:24:47.900 the other thing
00:24:49.120 the reason I like
00:24:49.780 the binder concept
00:24:51.640 is that
00:24:52.200 you know
00:24:52.820 as you put your calendar
00:24:53.900 in the butler's book
00:24:54.880 you might not think
00:24:55.880 of everything right away
00:24:56.800 and so you can start
00:24:57.980 to fill it in
00:24:58.740 over the year
00:24:59.700 as you go through
00:25:00.300 the life in your household
00:25:01.500 and so when it's
00:25:02.780 the first day
00:25:03.300 of that first snowfall
00:25:04.220 and you're not ready
00:25:04.880 you think
00:25:05.120 okay
00:25:05.880 now I know
00:25:06.460 I need to get ready
00:25:07.200 and so now
00:25:07.680 you make a note
00:25:08.580 in your book
00:25:09.100 of what you need
00:25:10.400 and to get ready
00:25:11.400 for that particular item
00:25:12.540 you know
00:25:13.040 or when are you
00:25:13.460 when are you going
00:25:13.900 to open the pool
00:25:14.520 if your pool closes
00:25:15.580 in the winter
00:25:16.080 because you're in the north
00:25:17.260 and when do you
00:25:18.000 open it again
00:25:18.680 kind of thing
00:25:19.680 or when do you want
00:25:20.820 to be able
00:25:21.160 to fertilize
00:25:22.160 or do what you need
00:25:23.000 to do to your roses
00:25:23.820 that are in your garden
00:25:24.680 so I think
00:25:25.820 there's always something
00:25:26.900 and I think
00:25:27.720 it comes to you
00:25:28.460 really easily
00:25:29.060 as you go
00:25:29.660 throughout the year
00:25:30.400 in the life
00:25:31.440 of living
00:25:32.360 within your household
00:25:33.180 okay so your household
00:25:34.580 maintenance routine
00:25:35.320 it's very seasonal
00:25:36.180 and as you say
00:25:37.060 it's going to vary
00:25:37.960 by where you live
00:25:39.260 but you have
00:25:40.200 a good annual list
00:25:41.380 in the book
00:25:41.860 that can apply
00:25:42.880 to most everyone
00:25:43.640 so for example
00:25:44.800 in winter
00:25:45.220 you have things like
00:25:46.200 vacuum your fridge coils
00:25:47.540 flip the mattresses
00:25:48.900 spring
00:25:49.640 change batteries
00:25:50.480 on smoke detectors
00:25:51.360 and carbon monoxide detectors
00:25:52.780 wash the outside
00:25:53.980 of the windows
00:25:54.740 have AC inspected
00:25:56.320 get your outdoor grill ready
00:25:58.080 summer
00:25:58.880 you've got
00:25:59.440 clean out
00:25:59.920 and organize your garage
00:26:00.960 wash out garbage
00:26:02.080 and recycle bins
00:26:02.980 and then fall
00:26:04.060 you've got
00:26:04.840 have chimney cleaned
00:26:05.920 and expected
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00:27:15.640 and now back
00:27:18.820 to the show
00:27:19.460 something else
00:27:20.460 I'm curious about
00:27:21.140 one of the things
00:27:22.440 I've had problems
00:27:23.560 with with managing
00:27:24.820 my own home
00:27:25.500 is finding good contractors
00:27:27.360 and maintenance workers
00:27:28.560 do you have any
00:27:29.560 advice on that?
00:27:31.000 So you know
00:27:31.720 finding a good person
00:27:32.800 you know
00:27:33.380 they're worth their weight
00:27:34.160 in gold
00:27:34.640 if you can find them
00:27:35.760 but once you do
00:27:36.560 you need to be able
00:27:37.980 to stay in touch
00:27:38.820 and so that's
00:27:39.500 first of all
00:27:40.120 you know
00:27:40.360 when you are looking
00:27:41.640 for a tradesperson
00:27:42.800 go to your neighbors
00:27:43.720 go to people you trust
00:27:44.840 read reviews
00:27:45.980 online
00:27:46.660 but you need to be able
00:27:48.100 to be clear about
00:27:48.920 what are you looking for
00:27:49.880 so that
00:27:50.280 when you actually
00:27:51.240 speak to the trade person
00:27:52.340 you can actually ask
00:27:53.620 them intelligent questions
00:27:54.880 and because you've thought
00:27:55.940 about what do you need
00:27:57.240 or why you know
00:27:58.520 something needs to be fixed
00:27:59.620 or repaired
00:28:00.100 or why you want to build
00:28:01.040 something
00:28:01.440 doesn't matter
00:28:02.060 what the situation
00:28:02.820 but you need to have
00:28:03.700 a clear plan of
00:28:04.420 what do I need
00:28:04.880 this person to do
00:28:05.620 so that you can be
00:28:06.180 clear to them
00:28:06.980 so that they understand
00:28:08.340 what your needs are
00:28:09.220 so you can compare
00:28:10.280 and I think that
00:28:11.400 you know
00:28:11.600 when you interview
00:28:12.120 two or three people
00:28:13.000 you kind of get
00:28:14.380 a gut feeling
00:28:14.980 right away
00:28:15.360 who's the good one
00:28:16.140 and who's not
00:28:16.820 and listen to your gut instinct
00:28:18.940 and then make a note
00:28:20.440 of things in your butler's book
00:28:22.360 of you know
00:28:23.400 okay so we tried
00:28:24.280 John the electrician
00:28:25.040 he was really good
00:28:25.760 but he wasn't really clean
00:28:26.960 so the next time he comes
00:28:27.940 I need to make sure
00:28:28.520 he knows to take his boots off
00:28:29.500 before he comes in my house
00:28:30.420 and so on and so forth
00:28:31.780 because the work is good
00:28:33.020 but he just was a bit messy
00:28:34.280 and so just to remind yourself
00:28:35.740 that the next time
00:28:36.300 John comes over
00:28:37.020 you say okay
00:28:37.420 John remember
00:28:37.980 I need to take your boots off
00:28:39.040 oh yeah yeah
00:28:40.040 okay no problem
00:28:40.740 so I think that being clear
00:28:44.320 about what you're looking for
00:28:45.520 is really important
00:28:47.120 because I think that's where
00:28:48.160 the relationship breaks down
00:28:50.080 is that both parties
00:28:51.700 aren't communicating well
00:28:52.820 with each other
00:28:53.320 okay
00:28:54.040 and yes if you find a good one
00:28:55.320 make sure you put that
00:28:55.960 in your butler book
00:28:57.280 put it in your butler book
00:28:58.080 but also for example
00:28:59.080 you know
00:28:59.600 pay them on time
00:29:00.620 because then they'll want
00:29:01.500 to come back
00:29:02.060 you know kind of scenario
00:29:03.200 so you got to think
00:29:04.140 of things like that too
00:29:05.100 and being nice to them
00:29:06.520 and offering them
00:29:06.960 a glass of water
00:29:07.640 on a hot day
00:29:08.300 or a cup of coffee
00:29:09.480 I remember as the butler
00:29:10.700 what we used to do
00:29:11.280 is we used to make muffins
00:29:12.260 and coffee
00:29:12.840 for every trade
00:29:13.740 that would come to the house
00:29:14.400 every day
00:29:14.820 and so we became
00:29:16.300 the popular house
00:29:17.020 because they all wanted
00:29:18.160 to come to us
00:29:18.640 first thing in the morning
00:29:19.360 to get their coffee
00:29:20.060 and their muffin for free
00:29:20.980 that's how I kept
00:29:21.860 the trades happy
00:29:22.600 and so being nice to trades
00:29:24.860 you get it back tenfold
00:29:26.500 first of all
00:29:26.980 you should just be a nice person
00:29:28.180 and they're doing
00:29:29.180 a job that you need
00:29:30.100 but second of all
00:29:30.760 you know
00:29:31.220 if you keep them happy
00:29:32.120 they're going to be more
00:29:32.680 willing to come back
00:29:33.320 the next time you need them
00:29:34.200 let's talk about
00:29:35.700 managing the inventory
00:29:37.280 in our home
00:29:37.900 so we mentioned dishes
00:29:39.340 or things for parties
00:29:40.580 but I was actually
00:29:41.900 having this conversation
00:29:42.620 with a friend
00:29:43.580 the other day
00:29:44.180 and he wanted it
00:29:44.860 I was like
00:29:45.200 how much toilet paper
00:29:46.780 do I really need to keep
00:29:47.900 and how do I know
00:29:49.240 when I need to restock
00:29:50.200 because I'm tired
00:29:50.680 of having to
00:29:51.420 when I need it the most
00:29:52.600 it's all gone
00:29:53.360 so any advice there
00:29:54.700 on managing
00:29:55.280 just household inventories
00:29:56.600 could be dishes
00:29:57.260 cleaning supplies
00:29:58.600 paper towels
00:29:59.500 toilet paper etc
00:30:00.340 so you're talking
00:30:01.420 so you're talking about
00:30:01.680 two different inventories
00:30:02.680 and so you know
00:30:03.580 if we're going to talk
00:30:04.160 about furniture
00:30:04.840 fixtures and equipment
00:30:05.560 you know
00:30:05.860 which we call FF&E
00:30:06.860 that's stuff like dishes
00:30:08.480 and furniture
00:30:09.440 and art
00:30:10.160 and all those kinds of things
00:30:11.820 so that's one kind
00:30:13.400 of inventory
00:30:14.260 that you're keeping
00:30:14.980 so you know
00:30:15.780 usually we do a picture
00:30:16.580 of it
00:30:16.860 and then we record
00:30:17.820 how many of that item
00:30:18.800 there are in inventory
00:30:19.820 and where it is
00:30:20.420 in the household
00:30:20.940 but the inventory
00:30:22.380 that your friend
00:30:22.920 is talking about
00:30:23.600 is what we call
00:30:24.780 a consumables inventory
00:30:26.000 and so what we're
00:30:26.900 actually consuming
00:30:27.560 so everything
00:30:28.340 within the kitchen
00:30:28.960 whether it's a spice
00:30:29.740 or a meat
00:30:30.320 or anything
00:30:30.660 that's in the freezer
00:30:31.260 but then that's
00:30:32.240 also cleaning supplies
00:30:33.160 and you know
00:30:34.140 there'll also be
00:30:34.660 toiletries
00:30:35.240 it'll also be makeup
00:30:36.400 and shaving cream
00:30:37.540 and all that kind of stuff
00:30:38.360 so those are all
00:30:38.920 consumables
00:30:39.580 and so the easiest
00:30:40.880 thing to do
00:30:41.560 first of all
00:30:42.600 so let's take
00:30:43.840 the toilet paper
00:30:44.380 let's answer the question
00:30:45.600 to your friend
00:30:46.100 how much toilet paper
00:30:46.820 do I need
00:30:47.400 so first of all
00:30:48.540 you need to figure out
00:30:49.200 you know
00:30:49.440 how many bathrooms 0.70
00:30:50.420 do you have
00:30:50.940 so you have two bathrooms
00:30:51.740 or three bathrooms 0.93
00:30:52.420 so right away
00:30:53.540 that's going to be
00:30:54.020 one roll
00:30:54.720 in each of those bathrooms
00:30:55.720 and then you want to have
00:30:56.640 you know
00:30:57.280 potentially a couple
00:30:58.220 of rolls
00:30:58.640 that are there
00:30:59.160 for a change
00:31:00.400 underneath the counter
00:31:01.320 so if we have
00:31:01.740 three bathrooms
00:31:02.320 we had three rolls
00:31:03.440 plus we have two extra
00:31:04.280 so that's nine rolls
00:31:05.420 already
00:31:05.800 just to keep
00:31:06.620 the bathrooms full
00:31:07.600 and then on average
00:31:09.740 you're going through
00:31:10.880 for the sake of the argument
00:31:11.920 you know
00:31:12.360 you're going through
00:31:13.000 a roll a week
00:31:13.780 and so you'll know
00:31:15.280 at the end of the month
00:31:15.900 kind of how much
00:31:16.820 you're consuming
00:31:17.380 and how much you need
00:31:18.520 or you know
00:31:19.200 you're using two
00:31:19.820 three or four
00:31:20.380 a week or a month
00:31:21.320 and so what we do
00:31:22.840 is we do
00:31:23.160 what's called
00:31:23.520 a minimum
00:31:23.960 maximum inventory number
00:31:25.620 so what's the minimum number
00:31:26.580 we know we never want
00:31:27.380 to have less than nine
00:31:28.600 rolls of toilet paper
00:31:29.420 but we never really need
00:31:30.520 more than 24
00:31:31.280 and so once a month
00:31:33.160 or every you know
00:31:34.100 two months
00:31:34.560 you count the toilet paper
00:31:36.040 and when you get down
00:31:37.440 to nine
00:31:38.020 then you know
00:31:38.740 you need to order
00:31:39.440 the balance
00:31:40.080 to get you back up
00:31:40.800 to 24
00:31:41.320 so you need to order
00:31:42.880 16 kind of thing
00:31:43.960 so it's actually
00:31:45.200 simpler than you think
00:31:46.620 once you come up
00:31:47.340 with the minimum
00:31:48.200 maximum
00:31:48.620 then you just set
00:31:49.620 an inventory date
00:31:50.500 and maybe it's once
00:31:51.320 every three months
00:31:52.040 kind of scenario
00:31:52.760 yeah
00:31:53.100 and I thought
00:31:54.000 that was really
00:31:54.740 interesting
00:31:55.020 you mentioned
00:31:55.600 the FFE
00:31:56.400 the furniture
00:31:57.520 fixtures
00:31:58.340 and equipment
00:31:59.540 inventory
00:32:00.380 yeah
00:32:00.940 this would be
00:32:01.580 good for any
00:32:02.680 household to do
00:32:03.780 because this is important
00:32:04.500 for insurance purposes
00:32:05.760 right
00:32:06.120 you want to know
00:32:06.900 if you have
00:32:07.960 art or furniture
00:32:09.440 you want to
00:32:10.080 have a picture of it
00:32:11.240 and like you know
00:32:11.980 value of it
00:32:12.700 because if your house
00:32:13.580 you know
00:32:14.100 god forbid
00:32:14.580 burns down
00:32:15.140 you'll be able
00:32:15.800 to have a reference
00:32:16.540 to your property
00:32:17.620 you say
00:32:18.260 here's what I had
00:32:19.040 and you start
00:32:19.820 making claims
00:32:20.560 so what's interesting
00:32:22.040 is that most people
00:32:23.160 are underinsured
00:32:24.100 and the insurance
00:32:24.920 companies will tell you
00:32:25.880 and so nobody
00:32:27.300 really wants to
00:32:28.400 spend their weekend
00:32:29.160 doing you know
00:32:30.300 a household inventory
00:32:31.120 but let me tell you
00:32:32.480 god forbid
00:32:33.140 you should ever need it
00:32:34.100 you'll be the happiest
00:32:35.020 person in the world
00:32:35.840 to have that
00:32:37.100 because if god forbid
00:32:38.860 you know
00:32:39.280 something happens
00:32:39.860 to your house
00:32:40.360 and you need to
00:32:41.000 make an insurance claim
00:32:42.100 they're going to want
00:32:43.140 to see all that
00:32:43.760 kind of stuff
00:32:44.340 and you know
00:32:44.960 what's interesting
00:32:45.440 is the insurance
00:32:45.960 company
00:32:46.220 you know
00:32:46.500 if you're insured
00:32:47.040 for the sake
00:32:47.440 of the argument
00:32:47.780 for $100,000
00:32:49.100 the insurance company
00:32:50.240 doesn't just write
00:32:50.980 you a check
00:32:51.320 for $100,000
00:32:52.020 you have to actually
00:32:52.720 go and buy the stuff
00:32:53.720 and the insurance
00:32:54.160 company reimburses you
00:32:55.540 so that's I think
00:32:56.800 important to know
00:32:57.740 right there
00:32:58.140 and second of all
00:32:58.780 you know
00:32:59.420 maybe you're insured
00:33:00.160 for $100,000
00:33:00.840 but maybe you have
00:33:01.580 $150,000 worth of stuff
00:33:03.160 that you didn't think about
00:33:04.440 and so now all of a sudden
00:33:05.500 you have less
00:33:06.600 than when you started
00:33:07.480 so you know
00:33:08.440 do you have a stamp collection
00:33:09.560 or do you have china
00:33:10.780 or silverware
00:33:11.960 or jewelry
00:33:12.480 do you have books
00:33:13.740 kind of stuff
00:33:14.620 what kind of art
00:33:15.640 do you have
00:33:16.180 what kind of household
00:33:17.200 tools do you have
00:33:18.360 all that kind of stuff
00:33:19.400 is important
00:33:20.220 and so doing an inventory
00:33:22.200 really helps you
00:33:23.840 understand what kind
00:33:25.100 of insurance coverage
00:33:25.860 you need
00:33:26.340 and then what you have
00:33:28.100 in case of an emergency
00:33:29.120 okay we talked about
00:33:30.500 home maintenance
00:33:30.980 we talked about managing
00:33:31.740 toilet paper inventory
00:33:32.920 talked about managing
00:33:34.020 your big inventory
00:33:35.540 in your house
00:33:36.080 let's talk about
00:33:37.380 keeping our homes clean
00:33:38.720 first question is
00:33:39.860 what do you think
00:33:40.580 are the pros and cons
00:33:41.980 of cleaning your own house
00:33:43.360 versus hiring someone
00:33:45.180 to clean it for you
00:33:46.080 I think the main thing
00:33:48.100 is if you're going
00:33:48.700 to do it yourself
00:33:49.180 is do you have the time
00:33:50.120 to do it properly
00:33:50.820 and if you do
00:33:52.200 and if you want
00:33:52.920 to do it on your own
00:33:53.620 then I think that's great
00:33:54.380 then go for it
00:33:55.160 but if you don't
00:33:56.540 have the time
00:33:57.400 and you want
00:33:58.460 to hire someone
00:33:59.180 that's okay too
00:34:00.240 but the biggest mistake
00:34:01.520 is that people
00:34:02.120 aren't clear
00:34:03.100 about what they want
00:34:04.100 and so a cleaning person
00:34:06.260 will come in
00:34:06.780 and do what they think
00:34:07.780 needs to be done
00:34:08.720 and then you're upset
00:34:09.400 and well I can't believe
00:34:10.300 they didn't clean
00:34:10.760 the chandelier
00:34:11.320 it's like well
00:34:12.420 you know
00:34:13.260 they only had three hours
00:34:14.600 to be in your house
00:34:15.160 they can't do everything
00:34:16.040 or you know
00:34:16.840 they didn't iron the sheets
00:34:17.840 well are they supposed to
00:34:18.840 did you talk about that
00:34:19.780 before you hired them
00:34:20.900 and so most people
00:34:22.040 don't have a proper
00:34:23.100 job description in place
00:34:24.600 and that's I think
00:34:25.820 where things fall apart
00:34:27.000 the most
00:34:27.540 is that the expectations
00:34:29.640 are one thing
00:34:30.840 and the deliverables
00:34:31.520 are another
00:34:31.900 and no one's speaking
00:34:32.740 to each other
00:34:33.220 about what they're going
00:34:34.320 to do
00:34:34.680 and so people
00:34:35.360 are disappointed
00:34:36.000 so I think being clear
00:34:38.400 about what your needs are
00:34:39.660 if you're going
00:34:40.020 to hire someone
00:34:40.740 but I think that
00:34:42.780 whether you hire someone
00:34:43.880 or you do it yourself
00:34:44.900 I don't think
00:34:45.860 there's a right or wrong way
00:34:47.080 I think it just comes down
00:34:47.920 to time
00:34:48.380 and you know
00:34:49.100 if you can afford that
00:34:50.080 yeah
00:34:50.660 in the book
00:34:51.660 you make a distinction
00:34:52.400 between house cleaning
00:34:53.700 housekeeping
00:34:54.360 and deep cleaning
00:34:55.680 what are the differences
00:34:56.740 between the three
00:34:57.520 yeah
00:34:57.960 so deep cleaning
00:34:58.740 is really when you're
00:34:59.640 pulling something apart
00:35:00.380 so you're cleaning
00:35:01.300 the chandeliers
00:35:01.940 you're wiping the baseboards
00:35:03.000 you're lifting the carpets
00:35:04.460 you're taking the pillows
00:35:05.800 and off the couch
00:35:06.980 and you're vacuuming
00:35:07.720 inside the couch
00:35:08.320 and underneath the couch
00:35:09.200 and so you're really
00:35:10.360 pulling the room apart
00:35:11.820 is a deep cleaning
00:35:14.040 house cleaning
00:35:15.280 is really just taking care
00:35:16.840 of the house
00:35:17.980 on a weekly basis
00:35:19.240 usually
00:35:19.580 or twice weekly
00:35:21.040 where you're vacuuming
00:35:22.820 you're dusting
00:35:23.320 but you're just keeping
00:35:24.200 things going
00:35:24.900 you're not doing
00:35:25.620 the deep cleaning
00:35:26.460 and then housekeeping
00:35:27.780 is really making
00:35:29.260 a house a home
00:35:30.260 and making it feel inviting
00:35:32.060 that things are
00:35:33.280 where they should be
00:35:34.380 and that you need
00:35:35.260 so you know
00:35:36.060 the housekeeping
00:35:36.560 is everything overall
00:35:37.960 how do you feel
00:35:39.160 within that space
00:35:40.040 house cleaning
00:35:41.140 is what we do
00:35:42.320 on a weekly
00:35:42.920 or bi-weekly basis
00:35:44.140 or twice weekly
00:35:45.720 and then deep cleaning
00:35:46.920 is those special projects
00:35:48.520 you know
00:35:48.980 when we flip the mattresses
00:35:50.260 when we turn carpets around
00:35:52.600 so that they wear evenly
00:35:53.800 in every direction
00:35:54.580 so those are always
00:35:55.940 the big jobs
00:35:56.700 let's talk about
00:35:57.700 just house cleaning
00:35:58.440 you have these golden rules
00:36:00.060 of house cleaning
00:36:00.600 what are some of those
00:36:01.200 golden rules of house cleaning
00:36:02.440 well the golden rules
00:36:04.120 of housekeeping
00:36:04.620 or cleaning
00:36:05.420 are really about
00:36:06.380 making sure
00:36:07.560 that you're organized
00:36:08.920 and that you have
00:36:09.860 the right tools
00:36:10.680 that you have
00:36:11.360 the right chemicals
00:36:12.220 and that you're working
00:36:13.500 methodically throughout
00:36:14.440 the household
00:36:15.080 and you're starting
00:36:15.960 in one place
00:36:16.660 and you're working
00:36:17.280 towards another
00:36:18.260 so that you know
00:36:18.940 where you are
00:36:19.500 at any one point
00:36:20.320 and so the golden rules
00:36:21.920 are making sure
00:36:22.500 that you know
00:36:22.840 we don't cross contaminate
00:36:24.500 and so making sure
00:36:25.160 that you know
00:36:25.520 we understand
00:36:26.060 that we have
00:36:26.400 different cloths
00:36:27.460 for different locations
00:36:28.280 and so we're not using
00:36:29.180 the bathroom cloth
00:36:30.620 in the kitchen
00:36:31.100 or in the bedroom
00:36:31.720 and so on and so forth
00:36:32.660 and one of the golden rules
00:36:33.540 that we remember also
00:36:34.520 is remember that you know
00:36:35.520 when you're cleaning
00:36:36.520 from a room
00:36:37.540 you always start
00:36:38.520 from the top
00:36:39.200 and you work your way down
00:36:40.300 because dust of course falls
00:36:41.580 so that's why
00:36:42.060 you don't want to work
00:36:42.720 from the bottom up
00:36:43.420 and so the golden rules
00:36:45.460 are just about being logical
00:36:47.440 about what we need to do
00:36:49.240 so one of the ways
00:36:50.200 you recommend being logical
00:36:51.660 and efficient
00:36:52.400 about cleaning your house
00:36:53.480 is to have a cleaning list
00:36:55.160 so just as your butler's book
00:36:57.020 should have a maintenance list
00:36:58.260 for your home
00:36:58.940 you have different cleaning lists
00:37:00.900 broken down by daily
00:37:02.460 weekly
00:37:03.300 and monthly
00:37:04.120 so here in the book
00:37:05.040 you got daily cleaning
00:37:06.000 on the list
00:37:06.780 tidy clutter
00:37:07.520 wipe down counters
00:37:08.620 and stovetops
00:37:09.400 weekly
00:37:10.180 you want to give each room
00:37:11.640 in the house
00:37:12.140 a good cleaning
00:37:12.880 dust all the surfaces
00:37:14.020 vacuum all the floors
00:37:15.540 clean the bathroom
00:37:16.820 that includes
00:37:17.560 cleaning the shower
00:37:18.440 toilet and counters
00:37:19.600 replace the sheets
00:37:20.680 on your bed
00:37:21.280 and a point you make
00:37:22.540 on the weekly cleaning
00:37:23.560 is that you don't have
00:37:24.680 to do all this
00:37:25.340 in one day
00:37:26.140 you can break it up
00:37:27.360 throughout the week
00:37:28.260 so you know
00:37:29.220 one day you do the bathrooms
00:37:30.560 another day you do the bedrooms
00:37:32.340 and you know
00:37:33.060 the next day you do the kitchen
00:37:34.080 and then for the monthly list
00:37:35.560 you have things like
00:37:36.220 you know
00:37:36.480 scrub shower grout
00:37:37.560 descale shower heads
00:37:38.980 clean doorknobs and handles
00:37:40.600 and dust vents 1.00
00:37:41.960 so to your point
00:37:43.960 it's you know
00:37:44.300 weekly monthly yearly
00:37:45.320 kind of scenario
00:37:46.080 whatever
00:37:46.340 but it's about
00:37:47.000 you know
00:37:47.520 what do I need to do
00:37:48.200 every week in my bathroom
00:37:49.220 so you know
00:37:49.640 I know every week
00:37:50.280 I'm going to need to be able
00:37:50.880 to clean the shower
00:37:51.540 and the sink 0.99
00:37:52.060 and the counter 0.89
00:37:53.040 and I'm going to need to
00:37:53.720 clean the toilet
00:37:54.340 and the floor
00:37:54.840 but I don't need to
00:37:56.180 every week
00:37:56.920 pull the medicine cabinet apart
00:37:58.700 or I don't need to take
00:37:59.820 the shower curtain off
00:38:01.760 if it's cloth
00:38:02.460 and wash it
00:38:03.340 you know
00:38:04.020 kind of scenario
00:38:04.740 I don't need to wash
00:38:05.760 the walls down
00:38:06.580 every week
00:38:07.300 because you know
00:38:07.940 the humidity
00:38:08.460 actually captures dirt
00:38:10.380 or the light fixture
00:38:11.640 above the sink
00:38:12.200 doesn't need to be cleaned
00:38:12.940 necessarily every week
00:38:13.780 you know
00:38:13.980 you might give it a dust
00:38:14.760 with a duster
00:38:15.580 but you're not pulling it apart
00:38:17.260 and really cleaning it
00:38:18.320 that thoroughly
00:38:19.000 every week
00:38:19.920 and so that's
00:38:20.600 what you're really
00:38:21.380 kind of keeping track of
00:38:22.720 is every week
00:38:23.260 what do we need to do
00:38:24.020 every month
00:38:24.980 what do we need to do
00:38:25.760 and then
00:38:26.280 what are the special projects
00:38:27.420 that we want to do
00:38:27.980 and sometimes
00:38:28.540 there's no special project
00:38:29.540 for that particular room
00:38:30.520 gotcha
00:38:31.420 and one job I saw
00:38:32.880 on these checklists
00:38:34.100 that people
00:38:34.800 probably don't
00:38:36.340 think about a lot
00:38:37.360 is clean the dishwasher
00:38:38.780 so what's interesting
00:38:40.300 is that you know
00:38:40.680 you think to yourself
00:38:41.320 what do you mean
00:38:41.760 I need to clean my dishwasher
00:38:42.720 but that to me
00:38:43.680 would be something
00:38:44.120 that you know
00:38:44.540 I would put on my
00:38:45.300 quarterly list
00:38:45.960 I would say
00:38:46.420 okay it's March
00:38:47.620 I do it every three months
00:38:48.560 it's time to
00:38:49.360 clean the dishwasher
00:38:50.160 and so you know
00:38:51.440 the side of the door
00:38:52.940 so when you open the door
00:38:54.520 and the door is open
00:38:55.320 there's the edge
00:38:56.620 that runs on the three sides
00:38:57.940 the top and the two sides
00:38:59.260 that gets really dirty
00:39:01.160 because as you're putting
00:39:02.200 dirty dishes
00:39:02.780 into the dishwasher
00:39:03.920 food product
00:39:05.260 falls in that area
00:39:06.640 and it doesn't get washed
00:39:07.940 when the dishwasher
00:39:08.620 door is closed
00:39:09.440 so you actually
00:39:11.420 need to clean that 0.99
00:39:12.180 you need to
00:39:12.640 you know
00:39:12.920 if you have filters
00:39:13.780 in the dishwasher
00:39:14.500 in the bottom
00:39:14.840 of the dishwasher
00:39:15.300 sometimes they need
00:39:16.580 to be emptied
00:39:17.140 and cleaned out
00:39:17.880 sometimes you know
00:39:19.020 if you have a very
00:39:20.260 fancy dishwasher
00:39:21.060 it'll do it by itself
00:39:22.140 but you need to keep
00:39:23.380 an eye on all that
00:39:24.280 kind of stuff
00:39:24.860 I'm not a really
00:39:26.000 big believer
00:39:26.580 that you need
00:39:26.920 to run a chemical
00:39:27.700 through your dishwasher
00:39:28.440 although there are
00:39:29.380 those that are available
00:39:30.320 but you need to
00:39:31.480 actually clean
00:39:32.400 the filter
00:39:33.140 if it is necessary
00:39:34.160 and you need to
00:39:34.660 actually clean the door
00:39:35.600 the sides of the door
00:39:36.640 okay
00:39:37.440 so for your weekly
00:39:38.800 cleaning
00:39:39.300 so this is when
00:39:39.820 you're kind of
00:39:40.680 it's not a deep clean
00:39:41.420 but just sort of
00:39:41.880 the maintenance
00:39:42.700 cleaning you're doing
00:39:43.820 to make sure
00:39:44.200 everything looks nice
00:39:44.860 you recommend
00:39:45.760 to be efficient
00:39:46.480 with this
00:39:46.840 to have a butler's caddy
00:39:48.080 what's a butler's caddy
00:39:49.460 and what do you keep in it
00:39:50.380 so a butler's caddy
00:39:51.500 is the caddy
00:39:52.140 that you're going
00:39:52.500 to carry around
00:39:53.380 so what are you going
00:39:54.380 to have
00:39:55.000 when you're cleaning
00:39:55.640 throughout the house
00:39:56.440 and so the caddy
00:39:57.760 is going to have
00:39:58.300 your cleaning claws
00:39:59.200 in it
00:39:59.580 it's going to have
00:40:00.840 you know
00:40:01.440 whatever chemicals
00:40:02.320 that you happen
00:40:02.880 to be using
00:40:03.560 your tools
00:40:04.540 so you know
00:40:05.540 for example
00:40:06.020 do you need soaps
00:40:07.340 or do you need
00:40:08.020 any sprays
00:40:09.120 to disinfect something
00:40:10.180 or do you need
00:40:10.920 a squeegee
00:40:11.960 do you need paper towel
00:40:12.900 do you need baking soda
00:40:14.120 do you need
00:40:14.960 like a cream cleaner
00:40:15.840 for certain you know
00:40:16.840 ceramic sinks
00:40:17.440 that you're cleaning
00:40:17.920 so it's about
00:40:19.220 thinking about
00:40:19.840 where are you going
00:40:20.940 to be cleaning
00:40:21.420 and what are the things
00:40:22.600 that you need
00:40:22.980 because the worst thing
00:40:23.740 is is that you know
00:40:24.320 as you're cleaning
00:40:25.020 you're kind of carrying
00:40:26.200 everything in your hand
00:40:27.100 and then you realize
00:40:28.140 you've forgotten something
00:40:29.020 and you don't really
00:40:29.520 want to go back
00:40:30.120 you know
00:40:30.520 to the closet
00:40:31.020 wherever you keep
00:40:31.600 all your cleaning supplies
00:40:32.480 or under the sink
00:40:33.740 or wherever it happens
00:40:34.500 to be
00:40:34.840 and so you don't
00:40:35.960 really do it
00:40:36.680 you know
00:40:36.940 you just kind of
00:40:37.420 I'll do it next time
00:40:38.260 and you just kind of
00:40:39.260 forget about it again
00:40:40.040 so the caddy
00:40:41.940 just makes it easy
00:40:42.780 if everything's in there
00:40:43.960 then no matter
00:40:44.680 where you are in the house
00:40:45.500 you have what you need
00:40:46.440 you know
00:40:47.020 even for example
00:40:47.680 like the different color claws
00:40:48.840 so I always have said
00:40:50.640 blue for poo
00:40:51.600 and pink for the sink 0.82
00:40:52.520 in the kitchen
00:40:53.020 so that we don't have
00:40:54.220 cross-contamination
00:40:55.060 so that you know
00:40:55.760 we're using blue claws
00:40:56.640 in the bathroom
00:40:57.160 and pink claws 0.96
00:40:57.800 in the kitchen
00:40:58.220 and then a different color cloth
00:40:59.860 everywhere else in the house
00:41:00.800 all that's just in the caddy
00:41:02.420 and so it makes it really easy
00:41:03.980 as you're moving around the house
00:41:05.380 that you have the right tools
00:41:06.440 so you mentioned
00:41:07.800 about cleaning a room
00:41:09.560 effectively and efficiently
00:41:10.980 one thing you mentioned
00:41:12.200 is you clean
00:41:13.020 from top to bottom
00:41:13.840 any other tips
00:41:14.960 on cleaning a room
00:41:15.980 effectively and efficiently
00:41:17.360 so the most important thing
00:41:19.000 is as you've said
00:41:19.720 is to start from the top
00:41:20.640 and to work your way down
00:41:21.520 but then you always want to work
00:41:22.960 in a circular direction
00:41:23.840 now it doesn't matter
00:41:24.620 if you go clockwise
00:41:25.420 or counterclockwise
00:41:26.380 but you need to be
00:41:27.620 in a circular direction
00:41:28.680 because at some point
00:41:30.520 you may need to stop
00:41:31.840 so you know exactly
00:41:32.680 where you were
00:41:33.420 in that process
00:41:34.360 so where you know
00:41:35.160 where to go
00:41:35.600 but if you're doing
00:41:36.780 what I call the zigzag method
00:41:38.200 where you're just kind of
00:41:38.960 moving all over the room
00:41:40.220 you tend to forget something
00:41:41.780 because it's not logical
00:41:43.520 but when you're going
00:41:44.240 in a circle
00:41:44.900 you know exactly
00:41:46.200 where you are
00:41:46.900 and what you're doing
00:41:47.880 and I find that very helpful
00:41:49.400 do you dust first
00:41:51.220 then vacuum
00:41:51.860 so it depends on
00:41:54.320 what kind of vacuum you have
00:41:56.100 because some vacuums
00:41:57.100 actually put dust out
00:41:58.340 so you have to think about it
00:41:59.520 so sometimes
00:42:00.460 you're going to want to
00:42:01.140 vacuum first
00:42:02.100 and then dust
00:42:03.080 sometimes you're dusting
00:42:04.340 and vacuuming
00:42:05.040 in my house for example
00:42:06.240 I have a central vacuum
00:42:07.100 so for me
00:42:07.980 I would dust a room
00:42:08.980 and then I would vacuum the room
00:42:10.060 as I kind of work my way
00:42:11.220 out of the room
00:42:11.660 so that's how I do it
00:42:13.200 but you know
00:42:13.960 you need to have a good vacuum
00:42:15.080 to make sure
00:42:15.520 it's not putting dust
00:42:17.060 in the air
00:42:17.540 what you want
00:42:18.280 is a good filter
00:42:18.960 on your vacuum
00:42:20.000 any tips on dusting
00:42:21.840 so dusting
00:42:23.540 the biggest mistake
00:42:24.520 that people make
00:42:25.120 is that they use
00:42:25.660 too much water
00:42:26.680 you don't need a chemical
00:42:27.980 you know
00:42:28.580 you just need to have
00:42:29.360 a really good cotton cloth
00:42:30.680 cotton t-shirts
00:42:31.480 you know
00:42:31.860 as they wear out
00:42:32.580 in your house
00:42:33.160 are great to be able
00:42:34.360 to cut up
00:42:34.760 for dusting claws
00:42:35.660 and so what you do
00:42:36.900 is you wet your hands
00:42:37.820 under the running sink
00:42:38.700 you give them one shake
00:42:40.020 and then you dry them off
00:42:41.120 in that cloth
00:42:42.020 and then that cloth
00:42:43.400 at that point
00:42:44.040 is the perfect humidity level
00:42:45.680 to be able to dust
00:42:46.760 because you just want it
00:42:47.400 to be able to grab the dust
00:42:48.820 but I think that
00:42:50.340 we tend to use
00:42:51.240 too much water
00:42:51.940 which actually does
00:42:52.740 more damage than good
00:42:53.980 sorry about bed making
00:42:55.740 how often should you
00:42:56.680 change the sheets
00:42:57.260 on your bed
00:42:57.780 I know this is a contentious
00:42:58.840 oh my god
00:42:59.820 it's such a contentious issue
00:43:01.440 and so you know
00:43:02.520 there's surveys
00:43:03.100 for example in the UK
00:43:04.020 where the average man
00:43:05.560 changes his sheets
00:43:06.460 every three to four months
00:43:07.820 you know
00:43:08.360 holy cow
00:43:08.700 exactly
00:43:10.000 and that kind of
00:43:11.300 shocked the nation
00:43:11.860 when those
00:43:12.280 when those surveys
00:43:13.020 came out last year
00:43:13.840 but you need to do it
00:43:15.380 at least once a week
00:43:16.460 and the reason you need
00:43:17.360 to do it at least
00:43:18.020 once a week
00:43:18.420 even if you
00:43:19.440 are the only person
00:43:20.500 sleeping in that bed
00:43:21.340 is the average person
00:43:23.480 sweats give or take
00:43:24.940 a liter of fluid
00:43:26.460 throughout the night
00:43:27.420 and so you've got
00:43:28.760 this liquid
00:43:29.300 that's going into the bed
00:43:30.340 first of all
00:43:31.380 and you just have
00:43:32.760 you know skin
00:43:33.380 that is falling off
00:43:34.460 we all have natural skin
00:43:35.860 dead skin 0.85
00:43:36.380 that's falling off
00:43:37.100 it's not because
00:43:38.280 you're not healthy
00:43:39.280 you're sick
00:43:39.680 it's just as normal
00:43:40.500 so we have
00:43:41.640 that dead skin 1.00
00:43:42.440 that's falling in the bed
00:43:43.340 we have the humidity
00:43:44.000 that's in the bed
00:43:44.680 and we all drool at night
00:43:46.640 we don't like to think
00:43:47.340 that we do
00:43:47.740 but we do
00:43:48.340 so all this kind of stuff
00:43:50.040 is important
00:43:50.520 and so minimum
00:43:51.700 once a week
00:43:52.400 is when you should
00:43:53.460 be doing your bed
00:43:54.180 any advice on making
00:43:55.920 a bed
00:43:56.720 well you know
00:43:58.400 I wouldn't make my bed
00:43:59.720 as a kid
00:44:00.140 my mother and I
00:44:01.160 thought about that
00:44:02.080 bitterly
00:44:02.880 until finally
00:44:03.800 my mother
00:44:04.280 said to me
00:44:05.720 one year
00:44:06.180 she said
00:44:06.440 oh I'm going to
00:44:07.180 give you a present
00:44:07.880 I said you are
00:44:08.640 she said yes
00:44:09.100 I'm going to buy you
00:44:09.800 a new duvet
00:44:10.380 for your bed
00:44:10.960 so let's go shopping
00:44:11.800 so I was all excited
00:44:13.060 and I went
00:44:13.440 and I picked out
00:44:13.880 some new sheets
00:44:14.340 with my mother
00:44:14.900 and my mother
00:44:16.320 changed the bed
00:44:17.000 recipe for me
00:44:17.680 and so what she did
00:44:18.340 is she put a
00:44:18.900 fitted sheet
00:44:19.900 on the bed
00:44:20.520 and she gave me
00:44:21.680 a duvet
00:44:22.060 that had a duvet
00:44:22.800 cover on it
00:44:23.400 and that was it
00:44:24.040 and I was told
00:44:25.320 every morning
00:44:25.860 if I wanted to
00:44:26.580 come down for breakfast
00:44:27.220 I had to just
00:44:27.760 give the duvet
00:44:28.440 a flick
00:44:29.080 so that my bed
00:44:30.180 was made
00:44:30.660 and it was so simple
00:44:31.680 I actually did it
00:44:33.060 so I think
00:44:34.340 it's about
00:44:34.720 being smart
00:44:35.540 about the bed
00:44:36.200 recipe
00:44:36.620 versus maybe
00:44:37.800 parents want to
00:44:38.520 have a more
00:44:39.140 complicated bed
00:44:39.960 so maybe you have
00:44:41.100 a fitted sheet
00:44:42.000 and a flat sheet
00:44:42.740 and a blanket
00:44:43.280 and a duvet
00:44:43.880 all that's really great
00:44:45.280 it's just a lot
00:44:45.940 more work
00:44:46.480 and there's not
00:44:47.500 one right or wrong
00:44:48.420 way to do it
00:44:49.040 they're just different
00:44:49.960 so I think it's about
00:44:51.380 thinking about the
00:44:51.940 application of
00:44:52.620 who sleeps in the bed
00:44:53.920 who has to make
00:44:54.880 the bed
00:44:55.300 and who has the time
00:44:56.520 and ultimately
00:44:57.500 what do you want
00:44:58.220 do you recommend
00:44:59.060 letting the bed
00:44:59.920 air out a little bit
00:45:00.720 before you make it
00:45:01.460 oh absolutely
00:45:02.080 for that exact reason
00:45:03.440 that because of the
00:45:04.200 humidity that's in the bed
00:45:05.100 the bed needs to be able
00:45:06.680 to air out
00:45:07.260 and bed bugs
00:45:08.480 and bugs
00:45:09.240 they love that moisture
00:45:10.440 and they love that humidity
00:45:11.420 and they love that warmth
00:45:12.320 so if you make the bed
00:45:13.320 right away
00:45:13.840 that humidity stays trapped
00:45:15.560 in the bed
00:45:16.060 which is something
00:45:16.720 you don't want
00:45:17.480 okay I'm going to ask
00:45:18.500 this is a greedy question
00:45:20.120 this is from me
00:45:20.780 I clean the showers
00:45:22.260 in our home
00:45:22.760 so I'm always looking
00:45:23.680 for advice
00:45:24.460 on how to do this job better
00:45:25.980 any advice
00:45:27.260 on the best way
00:45:28.240 to clean a shower
00:45:29.280 so I think
00:45:30.580 the best way
00:45:31.380 is first of all
00:45:32.440 is to have a squeegee
00:45:33.580 in the shower
00:45:34.420 and not the one
00:45:35.480 that you buy for showers
00:45:36.860 because they're not good
00:45:37.940 generally
00:45:38.420 what I have in my shower
00:45:40.300 is I actually have
00:45:41.400 a squeegee
00:45:42.180 that you buy
00:45:42.780 at the hardware store
00:45:43.600 for windows
00:45:44.380 so it's got a proper
00:45:45.900 black rubber tip
00:45:47.320 on the end
00:45:47.800 so that it squeegees
00:45:49.140 perfectly
00:45:49.800 so first of all
00:45:50.460 I think you need
00:45:50.780 a professional squeegee
00:45:51.760 but second of all
00:45:53.240 if you have
00:45:54.320 the ability
00:45:55.140 to somewhere
00:45:56.240 either you know
00:45:57.320 under the kitchen
00:45:57.880 the bathroom sink
00:45:58.740 or somewhere
00:45:59.580 to be able to keep
00:46:00.760 some soap
00:46:01.520 and a brush
00:46:02.160 so that you can actually
00:46:03.200 brush down the shower
00:46:04.180 on a regular basis
00:46:05.320 and then rinse it
00:46:06.280 and then squeegee it 1.00
00:46:07.700 it becomes really easy
00:46:09.280 because the more often
00:46:10.860 you do it
00:46:11.560 the easier it is to do
00:46:12.840 and the faster it becomes
00:46:14.080 the mistake that people
00:46:15.420 do is that they wait
00:46:16.620 too long
00:46:17.080 then the build-up starts
00:46:18.260 and then it becomes
00:46:19.200 really difficult to clean
00:46:20.600 and then you resent it
00:46:21.500 and then you don't
00:46:21.980 want to clean it
00:46:22.880 so having the ability
00:46:25.120 to rinse down
00:46:26.040 the shower
00:46:26.680 having the squeegee
00:46:27.800 right there
00:46:28.360 that the good one
00:46:29.220 for windows
00:46:29.860 allows you to squeegee
00:46:31.320 whether you're doing tiles
00:46:32.720 or you're doing
00:46:33.060 a glass shower door
00:46:34.660 or glass shower wall
00:46:35.780 which is what I do
00:46:37.040 it makes it really easy
00:46:38.380 so that A
00:46:39.080 the bathroom
00:46:39.520 always looks good
00:46:40.260 but B
00:46:41.300 I never get enough build-up
00:46:42.500 that I never really resent
00:46:44.180 that once a week
00:46:45.340 when I use the soap
00:46:46.240 or twice a week
00:46:47.260 when I use the soap
00:46:48.040 because it's really not hard
00:46:49.400 it's just a quick rub down
00:46:51.060 okay so you recommend
00:46:52.100 squeegeeing after every use
00:46:53.880 absolutely
00:46:54.760 because the problem is
00:46:55.900 the water marks
00:46:57.060 go onto the glass
00:46:58.380 and they don't necessarily
00:46:59.480 come off
00:47:00.140 when it gets wet again
00:47:01.460 and so that just makes it
00:47:02.560 harder to clean
00:47:03.160 and the problem is
00:47:03.620 of course nobody ever
00:47:04.440 wants to squeegee
00:47:05.080 after you shower
00:47:05.720 everyone likes the ability
00:47:06.960 to be able to just have a shower
00:47:08.260 and thank you goodbye
00:47:09.020 and so that's what you need
00:47:10.160 to think about
00:47:10.620 you know
00:47:10.920 are you prepared to squeegee
00:47:12.080 your shower
00:47:12.560 or if not
00:47:13.460 maybe a shower curtain
00:47:14.540 is the way to go
00:47:15.120 best product for cleaning a shower
00:47:17.180 well
00:47:19.220 I think the issue is
00:47:20.740 that you know
00:47:21.120 you need a soap
00:47:21.780 and so I'm a really firm believer
00:47:23.220 in dish soap
00:47:23.860 because it's got a low pH balance
00:47:26.400 so it doesn't really affect anything
00:47:27.720 it works fine
00:47:28.440 on metal surfaces
00:47:29.380 it works really well
00:47:30.420 on tiles and tubs
00:47:32.540 and all that kind of stuff
00:47:33.380 so a dish soap
00:47:34.840 actually is a great cleaner
00:47:36.640 but if you need
00:47:37.960 a bit of a chemical
00:47:38.920 pine sol
00:47:39.980 is very good
00:47:40.780 at getting rid of water stains
00:47:42.100 that is a great way to go
00:47:43.580 I'm not really a believer
00:47:45.480 that you need to bleach
00:47:46.420 the shower
00:47:47.200 because there's no bacteria
00:47:48.700 per se in the shower
00:47:49.680 unless you've got buildup
00:47:51.880 that's been there
00:47:52.380 for years and years
00:47:53.500 and then you've got mold
00:47:54.420 and bacteria
00:47:54.960 but if you're doing it regularly
00:47:56.640 there really generally
00:47:57.800 isn't a need
00:47:58.680 to be able to use
00:47:59.640 a harsh chemical
00:48:00.720 and so the most important thing
00:48:02.420 is making sure
00:48:03.220 that the bathroom
00:48:03.940 airs out
00:48:05.140 that the door is open
00:48:06.040 and if you have a window
00:48:06.980 that the windows open
00:48:07.980 every once in a while
00:48:08.700 to let the air
00:48:09.320 and the humidity escape
00:48:10.780 One tip that I picked up recently
00:48:12.800 that's been a game changer
00:48:13.920 for cleaning the glass
00:48:15.040 at least in the shower
00:48:15.840 vinegar
00:48:16.620 seems to be
00:48:17.680 really awesome
00:48:18.640 with like a vinegar mixture
00:48:19.860 Vinegar and water
00:48:21.480 is a great mixture
00:48:22.240 for certain things
00:48:22.980 absolutely
00:48:23.520 and you know
00:48:24.560 there's pros and cons
00:48:25.600 to what they call
00:48:26.260 green cleaning products
00:48:27.280 which you know
00:48:27.740 is the
00:48:28.080 in this particular case
00:48:29.680 would be the water 0.72
00:48:30.640 and the vinegar
00:48:31.100 so I think that
00:48:32.920 again
00:48:33.640 then it would be having
00:48:34.880 you know
00:48:35.300 a squeegee bottle
00:48:36.180 with the vinegar
00:48:36.900 and the water
00:48:37.740 already mixed in it
00:48:38.820 that's somewhere handy
00:48:40.120 so you can grab it quickly
00:48:41.500 give it a little bit
00:48:42.600 of a quick spray
00:48:44.660 and then you can rinse it
00:48:46.200 and you know
00:48:46.760 use your squeegee
00:48:47.480 so again
00:48:47.800 it's about
00:48:48.160 the easier you make it
00:48:50.100 for yourself
00:48:50.620 then the more likely
00:48:51.840 you are to do it
00:48:52.680 and the more often
00:48:53.480 you do it
00:48:53.940 the easier the job becomes
00:48:55.620 so final question
00:48:57.000 in the Butler Speaks
00:48:58.060 you wrote that
00:48:58.900 being a butler
00:48:59.580 is about giving people
00:49:00.560 the little luxuries
00:49:01.580 in life
00:49:02.440 so after you've taken care
00:49:03.620 of the big stuff
00:49:04.160 of keeping a house
00:49:04.940 right
00:49:05.220 you're doing the maintenance
00:49:06.260 the cleaning
00:49:06.740 managing inventory
00:49:07.680 what are some of the
00:49:08.920 little luxuries
00:49:09.680 people can give themselves
00:49:11.100 to make their home
00:49:12.140 a joy to live in
00:49:13.140 I think it's about
00:49:15.060 thinking of anticipating
00:49:16.860 so for example
00:49:17.620 if you like to have
00:49:19.380 a cup of tea
00:49:20.240 in the afternoon
00:49:20.900 then you know
00:49:21.720 that cup of tea
00:49:22.540 can be a real pleasure
00:49:24.000 if you have a nice
00:49:25.620 tea cup
00:49:26.040 and you have a nice
00:49:26.480 little teapot
00:49:27.100 you have some
00:49:27.780 of your favorite teas
00:49:28.420 that becomes a pleasure
00:49:29.380 so whether you're
00:49:30.320 making it for someone else
00:49:31.300 or you're making it
00:49:31.800 for yourself
00:49:32.260 that becomes something
00:49:33.720 really enjoyable
00:49:34.520 or for example
00:49:35.520 you know
00:49:35.860 my mother
00:49:36.660 she likes to have 1.00
00:49:37.380 a glass of wine
00:49:38.060 you know
00:49:38.360 in the evening
00:49:38.840 she uses a nice glass
00:49:40.540 she uses one of her
00:49:41.200 crystal glasses
00:49:41.860 from the dining room
00:49:42.660 not because she's trying
00:49:43.940 to be particularly fancy
00:49:44.860 but she just really
00:49:45.940 enjoys that glass
00:49:47.100 and she says
00:49:47.540 well I have to wash
00:49:48.700 the glass by hand
00:49:49.460 no matter what glass
00:49:50.260 it is
00:49:50.520 so whether it's
00:49:51.480 just an everyday glass
00:49:52.780 or a crystal glass
00:49:53.780 it's the same thing
00:49:54.540 and so she gets
00:49:55.200 more pleasure
00:49:55.760 out of using
00:49:56.560 the crystal glass
00:49:57.420 or a simple pleasure
00:49:58.840 can just be
00:49:59.340 for example
00:49:59.760 just having your bed made
00:50:01.460 so when you come home
00:50:02.300 and you crawl into bed
00:50:03.460 there's nothing I think
00:50:04.080 nicer than crawling
00:50:04.880 into a freshly made bed
00:50:06.800 so to me
00:50:07.560 those are the little
00:50:08.260 things that are enjoyable
00:50:09.740 you know
00:50:10.440 to try to think about
00:50:11.260 so this has been
00:50:12.560 a great conversation
00:50:13.220 Charles
00:50:13.500 where can people
00:50:14.000 go to learn more
00:50:14.540 about the books
00:50:15.160 and your work
00:50:15.780 so the books
00:50:17.500 you can go to Amazon
00:50:18.420 which is anywhere
00:50:19.560 in the world
00:50:20.000 and so the books
00:50:20.600 are available there
00:50:21.220 and you can go
00:50:22.420 onto our website
00:50:23.020 at charlesmcpherson.com
00:50:24.700 and you know
00:50:25.960 that's where you can
00:50:26.600 find out about
00:50:27.460 a lot of things
00:50:27.960 there too
00:50:28.440 fantastic
00:50:29.120 well Charles McPherson
00:50:29.820 thanks for your time
00:50:30.320 it's been a pleasure
00:50:30.860 the pleasure
00:50:31.620 has been all mine
00:50:32.160 thank you
00:50:32.780 my guest here
00:50:34.560 is Charles McPherson
00:50:35.180 he's the author
00:50:35.800 of several books
00:50:36.480 including the book
00:50:37.120 The Butler Speaks 0.90
00:50:38.000 it's available
00:50:38.600 on amazon.com
00:50:39.600 you can find
00:50:40.380 more information
00:50:40.800 about his work
00:50:41.220 at his website
00:50:41.820 charlesmcpherson.com
00:50:43.200 also check out
00:50:44.120 our show notes
00:50:44.500 at aom.is
00:50:45.360 slash butler
00:50:46.040 where you can find
00:50:46.640 links to resources
00:50:47.440 where you can delve
00:50:47.820 deeper into this topic
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00:51:44.200 on the art of manliness
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00:51:46.380 about Plutarch's lives
00:51:47.920 and why this ancient
00:51:49.020 collection of biographies
00:51:50.020 has shaped leaders
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00:51:52.500 can still sharpen
00:51:53.200 your sense of virtue
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00:51:54.840 and character today
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00:51:58.600 into the works
00:51:59.440 of Plutarch
00:52:00.180 check it out
00:52:01.100 at aom.is
00:52:02.200 slash Plutarch
00:52:03.040 that's aom.is
00:52:04.460 slash Plutarch