Flying, Hosting, Regifting, and More — All Your Holiday Etiquette Questions Answered
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Summary
In an age where a lot of formalized decorum has vanished, the holidays are still a time with rules, traditions, and unspoken expectations. It s also a time of heightened social interactions and increased opportunities to demonstrate warmth, hospitality, and all-around gentlemanly politeness. Here to help us navigate the many scenarios for practicing good etiquette that the holidays present is Thomas Farley, a.k.a. Mr.anners. Today on the show, Mr. Farley shares the neglected aspects of flying etiquette, how to be a non-annoying houseguest, the paradoxes of party arrival punctuality, whether a dinner party host should accommodate the special dietary restrictions of guests, and more.
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Brett McKay here, and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast.
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In an age where a lot of formalized decorum has vanished, the holidays are still a time
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with rules, traditions, and unspoken expectations.
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It's also a time of heightened social interactions and increased opportunities to demonstrate
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warmth, hospitality, and all-around gentlemanly politeness.
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Here to help us navigate the many scenarios for practicing good etiquette that the holidays
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Today on the show, Thomas shares the neglected aspects of flying etiquette, how to be a non-annoying
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houseguest, the paradoxes of party arrival punctuality, whether a dinner party host should
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accommodate the special dietary restrictions of guests, how to get lingering guests out
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of your home after a party, how to best navigate an office holiday party, the rules of regifting,
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After the show's over, check out our show notes at awim.is slash holidayetiquette.
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All right, Thomas Farley, welcome back to the show.
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We had you on last year to talk about etiquette and manners in general.
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I wanted to bring you back on because it's the holiday season and with the holiday season,
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there's a lot of opportunities to practice good etiquette.
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There's traveling, being a guest in someone's home, holiday parties, gifting, tipping.
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So we're going to just dig into holiday manners and etiquette.
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So let's start off with traveling for the holidays and we're going to talk about two ever burning
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The first one is if you're flying on a plane, who gets the armrest in the middle seat of an
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airplane and then the second one, when is it okay to recline your seat?
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Well, I am so glad and I'm hoping, Brett, I know you've got a great listenership that
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we can put this issue to rest once and for all.
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As someone who very often gets stuck in coach and sadly will often be in the middle seat,
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the middle seat passenger really is the one who not only needs but all out requires those
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double armrests. So left and right armrest if you're sitting in a three-seater row.
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And the reason for this is, of course, the person on the aisle has a guarantee of at least one
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armrest. The person on the window has not just the window, but their right armrest.
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So it is the kind thing to do and I think the right thing to do.
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We do safety videos on airlines, but I wish they would also do etiquette videos because
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I think this is an area of a lot of debate. People feel, well, the armrest is there.
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I should be entitled to it. And I'm 6'1". I can't tell you between the people reclining
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in front of me, the people taking both armrests if I'm in the middle seat. It just takes an
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already difficult and challenging experience, which is air travel, and makes it even that
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much worse. So both armrests to the middle seat passenger.
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All right. Agree. Okay. What about reclining your seat?
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Yeah. Reclining is a little bit trickier. Of course, it depends on what class of the cabin
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you're sitting in, but presuming that you're seated in perhaps a low frills airline with
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very tight pitch. And we know, and all the statistics bear out, that the airlines have
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been gradually reducing the amount of leg room for all of their classes of cabin. I think
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it's important if you need to recline that you wait until the appropriate time to do so.
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So in other words, not during meal service where coffee might spill onto someone's lap if
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you suddenly recline and to wait for the appropriate time during the flight. So if this is a red
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eye where most of the plane is going to be attempting to get some sleep, reclining would
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be a far more commonplace thing and an understandable thing than these people who the second the plane
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reaches 30,000 feet and that light has gone off, people are craning back in their seat to
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the fullest extent. And what I don't like about it, it creates this domino effect. You've
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now crashed into my knees. I've now got no choice, but do the same to the person behind me.
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So the considerate thing to do really is to, if possible, kind of look over your shoulder and just
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indicate to the person behind you that you're about to ease back into a recline rather than just going
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for it and catching them by surprise. Okay. I love it. Any other points of travel related
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etiquette people could use refresher on? You know, something, and I travel quite a lot,
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Brett, you know, as I think, you know, I do workshops around the country. So I'm constantly
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in and out of airports. I live in New York. I feel like LaGuardia is my second home as my point
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of departure. Something I see quite a lot, and it really gets me every time, is an airline boarding
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process where they'll announce, you know, now boarding group one, now boarding group two. And it seems like
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the entire population of that particular flight is crowding around the gate. And there's this term for
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this, which I don't know if you've heard, called gate lice. And although I don't love it, it's kind
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of a not very pleasant image. But this idea that people are kind of creeping out around the gate
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and not waiting for their gate to be called. So I believe American Airlines, in fact, has just
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introduced a new policy where they're going to be able to screen for that. And someone who tries to
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board their flight before their actual boarding group has been called will be turned away. And I think
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that's good. I get it. These gates are small, especially in the older airports. There's not
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always so much room. People are really concerned about getting their carry-on bags into the overhead
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bins and not having to gate check them. But this idea that everybody forms this scrum around the gate,
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I think it's this me first mentality, which I really dislike.
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What do you think about how to dress when you fly?
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This is a question I get quite a lot, especially for perhaps older business travelers will say,
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I remember the days when women wore dresses and men wore hats to go flying. I think that nostalgia
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is perhaps a lovely thing to recall. But I think we also have to recall that the reality is air
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travel is not what it was in the 1950s or 60s. As I've said, seats are smaller, tighter. We're being
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all but strip searched as we go through TSA. We're taking off our belts. We're taking off our hats and
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coats. Our luggage is being rifled through. So the idea that people want to be comfortable when
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they fly, I get that. But I do think that there's a bare minimum standard, which unfortunately has been
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breached. When you see people all out wearing pajamas, I mean, literally pajamas on flights, they're showing
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up in slippers, they're showing up in pajama pants. I think that's really unfortunate. If you look like you just
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tumbled out of bed, no matter how early your flight is, I think it's important to put in just a little
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bit of extra effort. And as we know, the anecdotal evidence is that if you're hoping for an upgrade,
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your chances of getting an upgrade are going to be far better if you're well-dressed when you show up.
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So I, as a business traveler, I like to bring my best because you never know who you might be seated
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next to, a business connection you might make, even in coach. But I think to expect everyone to dress
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like they used to 30, 40, 50 years ago, I think that's, that ship has sailed and it doesn't bother
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me terribly as long as people dress respectfully of their fellow passengers. All right. So casual's
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fine. Just look put together. That's right. Is the key. Another thing that I, sort of my approach to
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travel etiquette is when I'm moving through airport security, when I'm in the car rental line,
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I just, I try to like know what I'm doing in general, like make sure that the process runs smoothly.
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You know what I mean? I hate when you go to the airport security and people show up there and act
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like it's the first time they've ever been on an airplane before. They don't know they need to pull
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out their, take off their shoes or take out their laptop, even though there's been signs, you know,
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in the queue. When they get up to the car rental, they don't have their email with the confirmation
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number and it just holds things up. And so to help the process of the queue along, I try to make sure I'm
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ready to go when it's my turn. And so it just goes faster. So everyone can get out of the queue as fast as
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possible. I think that's a great habit to get into. Although I will say it's, it's a challenging
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one to stay on top of because as someone who does travel as much as I do, I can't tell you the
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variations from airport to airport, you know, the TSA agents who will actually kind of yell at you
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for taking it. No laptop stays in. No laptop comes out. No, you know, liquids, small liquids can stay
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in. They can't. So it really does. I think as the TSA's screening technology and scanning technology
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is upgraded from airport to airport, I do find that the policies are, you know, or even airports
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where you only present your license, others where you must also present your boarding pass. So it's a
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little bit confusing. But of course, if you've got a home airport that you fly out of regularly and
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certainly a chosen airline that you fly out of regularly, you should know their policies. I have a
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great degree of understanding for anyone who's a family traveling with strollers and, you know,
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all sorts of bassinets. I, you know, that I really, I will give them all the leeway in the world,
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but someone who's a regular traveler, who's not prepared when they get up to that agent to
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move along. I agree with you. I have little patience for that.
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It reminds me of that. There's a Sinbad bit. You remember Sinbad, the comedian?
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Sure. Yeah. Yeah. He had this bit about people who would go to McDonald's and they're standing in line
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and they see, they can see the menu while they're standing in line and they get to the front where
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it's time to order. And they're like, what do you want? And they're like, um, um, I don't know what
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it, what it's like, man, you've had like five minutes to like figure it out. So I don't know
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whenever I'm in the queue, especially at the car rental, there's like these signs, like have your
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license, have your credit card, have your, and then they get to the front and they're like, oh, I need
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my credit card. Oh, I don't have, it's like, oh my gosh, come on, man. Pay attention. Um, all right.
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That's just a personal pet peeve. A lot of people will be acting as either a host or a house guest
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over the holidays. So let's talk about the etiquette of being a house guest first. Is there a maximum
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number of days you should stay with a friend or family member? You know, I, so I live in New York
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and I guess one of the, one of the benefits of being a New Yorker is that you tend not to have
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guest rooms. So it's not a problem I encounter very often, although every now and then I'll have a
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college friend or someone say, Hey, I'm coming to New York and the hotels are crazy. You know,
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could I crash with you? Of course, which I'm always happy to do. I'm not someone who really
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likes to impose my presence on a friend or even, uh, you know, a distant relation really at all.
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I think it's, it's an imposition and very often people will set themselves up for this and they'll
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say, Oh, you know, the next time you're in town, you must stay with us. And you really have to
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wonder whether they actually mean it. I think a lot of times people, it's just a nice thing to say
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and they don't mean it terribly. So I really wouldn't impose myself on someone else, particularly
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if there are comfortable, convenient hotels nearby, which pretty much I'm sure everyone in
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your listenership when they're traveling has somewhere that they can stay. But if for whatever
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reason, maybe all the hotels are booked or, you know, they're just on a very, very tight budget and
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it's not something that you can afford. I think once you get past two nights, you know, there's
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this old saying, which I'm sure you're familiar with, which is, uh, guests, uh, like fish start
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to stink after a couple of days. So I really think that, uh, two days, two nights is about where you
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want to be. You don't want to seem like you're suddenly part of the furniture, you know, give
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these, these poor folks their home back and their routines back. Don't extend the stay past that.
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Unless this is someone who is your best, best, best friend. And, and, you know,
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you could stay together for weeks and neither one would get on the other's nerves, but then we're
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in a different category where you're really almost no longer a house guest. You're a, you're a
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contributing roommate where you're buying groceries and you're, you're helping clean and, and so on.
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Not, not necessarily things that you'd be doing for just a one or two night stay.
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Yeah. Benjamin Franklin is the one that said that fish and visitors stink after three days.
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Yes. Yeah. Ben Franklin was right. Any other ways to be a polite house guest during your stay?
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Sure. You know, I think if you have decided that this truly is your best
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option, you want to make your impact and your footprint be as minimal as possible. You also
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want to be as considerate as possible when you arrive. So someone putting you up, you want to
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bring, especially if you've never been to their home, you want to bring some sort of a thoughtful
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gift for your host. I would also bring, you know, people, I know last time, Brett, we talked about
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thank you notes. And as you know, I'm a big fan of those. And I know you are too. The idea of bringing a
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thank you note that is ready to go, which you can leave on the kitchen table or the living room coffee
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table, just as you're leaving so that you don't even have to trust that to the U S postal service,
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that the delivery will be instant. So bring that thank you note, have it ready to go and write it
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out with some thoughtful memories of what happened during your visit. However, brief you also want to
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make sure that if you are staying in a guest room or particularly if you're staying in an open common
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area, like a living room, you're not leaving it a mess. So your blankets, your pillows are all kind
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of neatly folded up. The sofa bed is turned back into a sofa. Again, this is again, you're not at
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home. You're not in your space. You want to make sure that the, you know, leave no trace really applies
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to indoors as well. If you're staying for more than a couple of days, I think a really nice thing to do
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is to take your hosts out to a dinner as a thank you during the duration of your visit. Of course, you want
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to offer help out in the kitchen as much as possible and in general be pleasant, but don't
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get in their way. They've got their routine and you shouldn't be intruding on that and expecting to
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be entertained 24 seven. I think it's okay. And I think it's very healthy as a guest to be able to
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go off and do your own thing and let your hosts do the same. Yeah, I agree. Whenever we stay with
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people, we try to let them know our schedule, let them know like the stuff that we want to do. We don't
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expect the host to entertain us all the time. So we let them know, here's the things we want to do.
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Let's sync on things we can do together. If it works with your schedule, if not, no big deal,
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we'll go do our thing, but then just keep them aware of, you know, what you'll be doing that day
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when, when they can expect you to leave the house and when they can expect you to be back.
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Yes, absolutely. And I would say the final thing, you know, don't disengage so much. Yes,
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it's important to make sure that you're not leaving a massive footprint, but you don't want to be the
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house guest who's basically a user who you were there for the bed or you're there for the sofa,
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but you're not engaging in conversation. You're withdrawing and, you know, going up to your room
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and, you know, sitting on social media the entire time and not actually conversing with your hosts.
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This would be inappropriate to not be a part of the household in a way that's meaningful so that this
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visit is more about you having a crash pad, but also an opportunity to catch up with obviously
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people who you feel close to. Any suggestions on how to be a gracious host?
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Sure. So you want to look after every possible amenity that might matter to your guests. So
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a lot of this probably seems obvious, but fresh linens, fresh towels, washcloth, an alarm clock,
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you know, most people use their phones, but I think a clock is a nice touch. Be able to be able to
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check the time during the evening or in the morning when they're about to get up. A bottle of water by
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their bed stand. I also think you make it clear to your guests that the kitchen is theirs for the
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taking. So whatever may be in the refrigerator is fair game or in the pantry is fair game. I'd ask
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about any dietary restrictions. I'd ask about any likes or dislikes. I actually had this, it wasn't a
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house guest, but I had a guest come down to, I have a place at the Jersey shore and she came down
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for a day and I said, Oh, you know, tell me what, what beverages should I have in the house for you?
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What do you like? And she said, you know, my favorite drink is an Arnold Palmer. And I said,
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Oh great. Well, fantastic. So there I was, I whipped up some, some tea, some fresh brewed tea,
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chilled it, mixed up some lemonade with some fresh squeezed lemons. When she arrived, she kind of looked
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horrified as I presented her my craftily made Arnold Palmer. And she said, no, no, no, this is
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not the Arnold Palmer. I meant what I really meant was the, you know, the Arnold Palmer that comes in
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a can and you can get it at a convenience store. Okay. Sorry. I guess I missed that memo. But being
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that host who looks out for the thoughtful little things that might make someone, especially if you
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think about it, uh, you know, they've perhaps been traveling a great distance. They're going to be tired.
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You offer them a shower, a place to change a place to put their belongings, make them feel as much at
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home as you possibly can by giving them all the creature comforts. I'd also say the wifi password
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for the house I've seen. And I love this almost like you're staying in an Airbnb where your host
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will actually have a little card with all the important details to the house, how to use the
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remote control. If there's a TV in your room, anything that might confuse them or might not be apparent
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to them when they arrive. I think those are nice touches as well. Yeah, I agree. And I think
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another thing a host can do is like plan some fun activities. Like if you invited these people to
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come stay with you, you know, that costs a lot of time and money to visit, visit someone. So
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make it worthwhile, have some activities for them to do. Don't just make it like, Hey,
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we're just going to hang out and whatever. Like I said, I don't expect the host to entertain me the
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entire time, but I like it when someone does have an itinerary ready and has some things planned out
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that we could do together. It just makes the whole trip more enjoyable.
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Yes. And have a backup plan. So that same place of the Jersey shore, I just mentioned,
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I had a different group of friends who came down and they were actually staying at an Airbnb nearby,
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but the weather forecast for the weekend they were coming down just got worse and worse and worse by the
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day. And I had prepared, I had sent them this lovely itinerary of the walking tours we were going to do
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in the picnic on the beach. And well, it rained, it was a diluge all weekend long. So I really had
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to be prepared for not being out and about, but being in an apartment for the weekend and how we
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could kind of entertain them and still give them a meaningful, memorable time despite the best laid
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plans. All right. Let's talk about party etiquette. A lot of parties during the holidays, Christmas parties,
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parties, office parties, New Year's parties. I think prompt RSVPing is important, but I think it's
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often overlooked as far as being a party. Yes. People really don't RSVP these days, but you know,
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the host needs to know who's coming so they can plan accordingly. So I think, yeah, RSVP always,
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even if you're not coming. Let's talk about this. What about punctuality? What time should you show up
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to a more open house type party and then to also wait like a sit down dinner party?
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Sure. Yeah. So two very different factors. And I agree with you wholeheartedly about the RSVPing
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thing. I think we live, unfortunately, in the era of maybe where people are just afraid to commit or,
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you know, maybe you're abiding their other options. You're absolutely right. A host needs to be able
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to plan and those RSVPs are vital. And for the host, you make it that much easier for your guests and
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you don't offer as an option regrets only because not hearing from someone you would think might mean
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that they're sending a sense that they are joining the party, whereas it actually may simply mean
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that they're not being considerate and letting you know. So yes, please, please, please RSVP couldn't
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be easier. We've got more apps and texting and platforms for communication to let someone know
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we're joining. We should do that. Your arrival time at a, for example, maybe you're having a New
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Year's Day open house. You, as the host, you provide a start and end time, or maybe the end time is
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open-ended. You know, in that case, I think you, obviously you can arrive anytime you like during
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that day, especially if it's a holiday like New Year's Day where people may be bouncing around and
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going to homes of different friends or family members. But I would still, as the guest, as the
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arriving guest, give your host some sort of a heads up. Oh, we look forward to seeing you on New Year's
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Day. We're going to be traveling, probably be arriving around your home at three or so. How is that for
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you? And where will you be in the menu planning for that time? What can I bring to contribute to
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the occasion if I'm arriving around three o'clock? So I think that for an open house, open-ended,
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that's a wonderful thing to do. You're going to give your host a heads up on your anticipated
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arrival time. And then you can even provide an update on the day of it, if that changes at all.
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On the other hand, if this is a dinner party that someone's having in a house, or even a party at a
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restaurant, you know, where the restaurant may not seat your whole party until every last person has
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arrived, you really need to be arriving on time. For a dinner party in a house, there certainly is
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a little bit of grace period. And I wouldn't recommend ever ringing a doorbell a minute or
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two before the party starts, or 15 minutes before the party starts. This is the host's down, well,
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I want to say downtime. This is the host's opportunity to attend to every last little touch,
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whether it's lighting the candles, whether it's putting the hors d'oeuvres out on the cocktail table.
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But as the guest, you really, for a dinner party, you should aim for around 10 minutes,
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max 20 minutes after the start time. After that, you're really inconsiderate. Because you've got to
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remember, it's not just about when you sit down to a meal. It's also about the conviviality that
00:21:28.120
takes place in the prelude leading up to the meal. And if you're not there, you can't contribute to
00:21:33.220
that. You were invited for a reason. You're there to contribute your presence and your conversation
00:21:37.120
and your wit. And none of that is happening if you are still out on the highway stuck in traffic
00:21:43.340
an hour after the party was supposed to have started. Yeah, I agree on that. If it's a dinner
00:21:48.500
party at a home, don't show up early. And don't even show up on time. My wife and I, we host a lot
00:21:53.320
of dinner parties. And even though we try to plan these things well in advance, you're always running
00:21:58.820
a little behind. Sure. And you're stressed out. And then when people show up early, like 10 minutes
00:22:04.200
early, it just adds to the stress because they're going to be like, oh, hey, can I help? And then
00:22:09.080
you have to start thinking about, well, I got to explain to this person how they can help. That
00:22:12.560
just makes you feel more stressed out. Or you feel like this pressure to make small talk with them
00:22:16.740
while you're trying to get the sirloin ready or whatever. And so you can't concentrate on what you're
00:22:21.000
doing. So we always appreciate when our guests show up like five minutes late, like 10 minutes is the
00:22:27.240
max. If it's beyond 10 minutes, that's a little too much. But like they show up five minutes late,
00:22:30.560
like that's perfect because we're able to get everything ready. But it's the worst when someone
00:22:34.300
shows up like 10 minutes early and it's like, I mean, what are we going to do with this person?
00:22:37.580
But if you do show up early, ask if you can help. If they say no, I think the best thing to do is
00:22:43.140
just go amuse yourself somewhere else and just let the host finish prepping in peace.
00:22:48.200
Yeah, I agree. Don't hover. We all have experienced, especially someone like you and your wife,
00:22:53.640
who has dinner parties, you know the kitchen hoverer who you're there doing last minute prep,
00:22:59.420
slicing, dicing, sauteing, and somebody's hovering in the kitchen, not only distracting you, but
00:23:04.420
getting in your way. So yes, get out of the way unless there's something that you can do that
00:23:08.800
genuinely is helpful. But I would say even if you made amazing time, you thought it was going to
00:23:14.300
take you an hour and it only took you 45 minutes, there's always something that you can do to occupy
00:23:19.460
yourself for those 15 or 20 minutes that is not ringing the person's doorbell and saying,
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hey, sorry, I know I'm early, but I got here in less time than I thought. Sit in your car,
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take a walk around the block, pick up an extra bottle of wine at the local wine shop. Do whatever
00:23:35.460
you need to do to give that host that vital time in those final minutes where things do tend to get
00:23:40.460
frenetic. Some people have special dietary restrictions, like maybe they're vegetarian or
00:23:45.080
something like that. If you're a guest with a special diet, should you tell the host of a dinner party
00:23:49.180
and expect them to make accommodations? So the expectation, no, but the communication, yes.
00:23:54.940
You know, it's a horrifying thing for a host to think that they've prepared something which they've
00:24:00.240
lovingly prepped and researched the recipe only to discover that one or more of their guests can't
00:24:06.580
eat the main course. On the other hand, I think it's presumptuous on the part of the guest to simply
00:24:13.340
think, well, you know, here's my diet. And it seems dietary restrictions continue to get more micro
00:24:20.640
as time goes on. You know, I'm keto, I'm eating macrobiotic, I'm a locavore. I think there are some
00:24:28.180
things that perhaps if you occasionally at least forego those restrictions, this may be the time to
00:24:34.320
forego when you're in someone's home. On the other hand, if you're someone who really follows a very
00:24:38.940
strict dietary restriction, I would communicate that up front to your host, not in a presumptuous
00:24:44.660
way, but I would use this as an opportunity to offer to bring something that will match your own
00:24:51.500
dietary preference and bring something not just in a little Tupperware container for you to enjoy
00:24:56.960
at the table while everyone else eats the host's meal, but rather bring enough, if the host is okay
00:25:01.940
with this, to be able to share with the other guests. What if you're the host of a dinner party?
00:25:06.460
When you're planning it, should you ask people if they have special accommodations or dietary
00:25:10.860
restrictions? Should you actively solicit that information?
00:25:14.340
I would ask the question on it. I'd be prepared to get all sorts of responses that may not quite
00:25:20.660
be to your liking. On the other hand, I do think in this age, it's really important as a host,
00:25:27.820
no matter how carnivorous you may be, to offer a very nice selection of vegetable dishes,
00:25:34.740
which will accommodate, of course, the vegetarians. It will accommodate the pescatarians. It will
00:25:39.660
accommodate, you know, the carnivores can have a salad every now and then. You know, they may prefer
00:25:43.440
meat, but they can certainly eat vegetables. There's a difference between just not loving something
00:25:48.520
and 100% not eating something. So I think as the host, you want to provide as many of those food
00:25:55.140
groups as possible, which really will cover just about everyone, at least in some way with a small dish.
00:26:01.120
Uh, but yes, ask the question. And if it's something, a requirement that you know, you can't
00:26:07.120
accommodate, I would be honest and upfront about that as well. Gosh, I, you know, I'm preparing my
00:26:12.520
favorite rack of lamb. I don't know that I'm going to be able to accommodate a second entree. What are
00:26:18.800
some suggestions that you might have, or might there be something that you could bring that could
00:26:22.820
supplement all the side dishes I'll have for you? So I think an honest and open communication so that
00:26:28.280
you don't have that awkward feeling of the person who just does not eat whatever you've prepared
00:26:33.040
staring at it in horror as you steer back in horror that all your hard work is for notch with this
00:26:39.320
particular guest. When should you show up with a gift for the party host? Always. I think the idea
00:26:46.460
of coming empty handed is it's presumptuous and it's inconsiderate. So again, Brett, you know,
00:26:53.060
your, your dinner party host, you know, the amount of work, time and energy and joy that goes into
00:26:58.920
preparing an occasion for your friends, a special occasion, your friends or family. And the idea that
00:27:04.500
you just kind of knock on the door with both hands empty, ready to devour whatever's put before you,
00:27:12.140
I think it's highly inconsiderate. So I would definitely bring some sort of a host or hostess gift
00:27:18.320
can be small, thoughtful. If you've been to their home before something that shows that,
00:27:22.020
you know, their interests and reflects their tastes. And I would also bring something if you've
00:27:27.720
cleared it in advance that will contribute to the meal, some other sort of food item. If the host
00:27:32.660
says, no, I really have my menu all planned. Don't worry about that. I'm all set. I would still bring
00:27:37.920
some sort of a host gift. Any suggestions for good gifts to give to a party host? Do you have some
00:27:43.560
go-tos that you like? Sure. I, you know, I think, you know, candles have probably been overdone.
00:27:48.500
They're tried and true, but, you know, hosts, especially frequent hosts, they probably have
00:27:52.860
far too many candles already. So I don't know that that's the ideal gift. I think, you know,
00:27:57.420
unless you happen to know that this person is a teetotaler and does not drink at all,
00:28:01.700
I would bring a bottle of spirits, a bottle of wine is always a great go-to. And, and candidly,
00:28:07.860
even if it's not a wine they drink or a spirit, they don't drink, they can re-gift that themselves.
00:28:12.940
That's a perennial. So I think that's, that's probably your safest bet. And what's nice
00:28:16.780
too, it can be bagged easily with a, you know, in a nice wine bottle bag with a bow. And it shows
00:28:22.620
that just a little bit of extra thoughtfulness. If a host doesn't drink, and this is coming from
00:28:27.140
someone who doesn't drink some good options for gifts are things like nice chocolates. We've gotten
00:28:31.960
that specialty, olive oil, cheese, honey. We've gotten houseplants. That's nice. Some of the,
00:28:38.200
also pastries that the host could eat the next morning. That'd be cool too.
00:28:42.260
So we're going to take a quick break for your words from our sponsors.
00:28:47.660
And now back to the show. Let's talk about tips for being a polite guest at the party itself.
00:28:53.460
I think not lingering too long when the party is drawing down seems like a good point of etiquette.
00:29:00.120
Any tips for a party host on how to get people out of your house when they have started to overstay
00:29:06.400
their welcome? Sure. And of course, this is a wonderful sign that people are having such a
00:29:12.060
great time that they simply don't want to leave, but you're probably exhausted at this point in the
00:29:17.580
day or in the evening that you really are ready for people to depart. And some people don't quite
00:29:21.720
seem to take the hint. There was a great book that Esquire did back in the sixties called the
00:29:26.560
handbook for hosts. I don't know if you've ever seen it. Yeah, I have it, but Oh, you've got it.
00:29:30.020
Okay. So you, I don't know if you know this particular tip, but I'm actually looking at it
00:29:34.600
right now. So on page one 89 of the edition I have, it's called speed the parting guest.
00:29:40.620
And there are a whole bunch of tips in here. Some of them are really kind of ridiculous,
00:29:44.500
like literally arranging for a moving van to come and pick up all your belongings and circle
00:29:49.260
the block a few times until your guest finally leaves. But this one I hadn't really thought of
00:29:54.220
before. And I think it's kind of fun. It says, um, arrange with your dog to demand to be taken
00:29:59.360
out. So you can explain smiling weekly. We always walk the dog just before bedtime. Guess he thinks
00:30:05.540
I forgotten him with appropriate there. There Duke will go out soon's in the dog's direction,
00:30:10.720
of course. So I think that's, that's a clever way of doing so. But I think, uh, perhaps a more
00:30:16.260
contemporary and less blatantly obvious way is to start preparing takeaway goodie bags for people,
00:30:23.060
the leftovers. Gosh, Brett, it's, it's been so lovely having you over. What can I prepare for
00:30:28.800
you to take home as you prepare a little care package of leftovers from the meal is a nice cue
00:30:35.540
that hopefully your guest will pick up on. I like that. Any other tips about just being a polite guest
00:30:41.020
at a party? The nice thing, if you've been invited to a dinner party in particular, you really got to
00:30:47.760
feel special and you know what you are because the host likely had many other people that they could
00:30:52.660
invite that wasn't you. And you've been included to contribute to a mix of personalities and an
00:30:59.240
occasion. So I would bring your best self. And what does that mean? You're going to dress the part. So
00:31:05.720
you're going to dress up a little bit above perhaps your baseline standards. So you're going to show that
00:31:11.280
you put it, put in some effort to how you look. You are going to bring your best self in terms of your
00:31:16.940
conversation. And that may mean that you're prepared to make small talk, interesting small talk with
00:31:22.920
people that you've never met before. And there are a few websites in particular that I love to consult
00:31:28.840
before I go to a party or if before I go to a networking event, one is mental floss. You may be
00:31:34.560
familiar. Another one is called pocket. Their website is get pocket. The history channel has a this day in
00:31:40.060
history. I love to have these just kind of go-to break in case of emergency type pocket stories that
00:31:47.680
you can pull out if suddenly you find everybody is looking down at the living room rug and nobody's
00:31:53.060
connecting. I would also say in general, most people are thrilled to be able to talk about themselves.
00:32:00.520
So these are people you've never met before and you show curiosity about who they are and what they do.
00:32:05.660
Also, be prepared to introduce yourself in an interesting way. So if somebody says,
00:32:11.420
it's the perennial question for someone you've never met, oh, and what do you do? And you've got
00:32:16.080
this kind of bland stock answer, oh, I'm an actuary for such and such accounting firm, you probably get
00:32:23.040
what I call the, oh, that's nice reaction from the other person. So think about a way that you can
00:32:28.840
introduce yourself and what you do in a way that's intriguing and that invites further questions,
00:32:34.340
and then you're going to do the same with the other individual. Make them feel listened to,
00:32:39.380
engaged with, and that you're giving them your undivided attention. This is the key ingredient
00:32:44.500
of a great conversation. Yeah, I like that adding to the conversation. Whenever I go to a party,
00:32:49.400
I always think, even though I'm not the host, I think the success of this party, I play a part in
00:32:54.500
this. What role can I play to make this party awesome? And so I try to bring my best self to it and
00:32:59.840
don't just depend on the host to show everyone a good time. I want to take part. I see the party,
00:33:04.420
it's a collaborative effort. Another thing that I like to do is obviously thank the host
00:33:10.080
of the party before you leave. But I also think it's nice to follow up with a text when you get
00:33:15.440
home, just reiterating what a great time you had. Because I think as someone who's hosted,
00:33:20.380
you're always, after the party's over, you're always wondering, oh man, how did the party go?
00:33:23.980
Do people have a good time? So it's nice to get those texts, those follow-up texts afterwards,
00:33:27.580
like, oh, it was such a great time. It just, it feels nice to get affirmed like that,
00:33:30.840
knowing that people had a good time. I wholeheartedly agree. And I think one of
00:33:34.780
the nice ways you can do that, if you're someone who is pretty good with your camera,
00:33:39.700
whether for selfies or taking group shots, I think sending a photograph from the occasion,
00:33:44.860
maybe it's you and the host, maybe it's you and the host and several others, along with that thank
00:33:49.920
you, you've created a nice little digital memento of the evening. What about office holiday parties?
00:33:58.500
I think particularly in the era we live of hybrid work, of remote work, you may be spending weeks,
00:34:07.600
if not months, without seeing not just the people who report to you, but the people to whom you report.
00:34:13.960
And to not afford yourself the opportunity of some genuine face-to-face time with those folks,
00:34:21.080
I think is a major faux pas. And you're missing out on a very important career opportunity to be
00:34:28.340
there, to see and be seen. So if you are working for a company that still has a holiday party,
00:34:34.540
and many companies have just abandoned the concept entirely. But if you are working for a company that
00:34:38.460
has a holiday party, you absolutely positively clear your schedule and you go with bells on.
00:34:44.280
Any advice on how to navigate a company party? Well, because you hear all these horror stories of
00:34:49.140
there's a lot of workplace problems that started at a holiday party.
00:34:53.980
That's true. Yeah. So remember, just because you're quote unquote off duty, you're not really.
00:34:59.960
In fact, you may be on duty more so than even when you're in the office in a nine to five situation.
00:35:06.180
You're being observed. Don't let down your guard. And that really starts with being very,
00:35:13.060
very careful with your alcohol intake. I would not go thinking this is going to be great. They've
00:35:19.000
got an open bar. I'm just going to get blitzed because chances are you will make in some respect,
00:35:25.400
you will make a fool of yourself and not be doing your career any favors. So fine to have a cocktail
00:35:31.380
at a holiday party if you're an imbiber. But I would really stop at whatever your limit is.
00:35:37.700
And it's different for everyone. Maybe you can have three cocktails and still be
00:35:42.760
completely coherent and in control of who you are. Or maybe you're somebody, you have a half
00:35:47.560
glass of champagne and you've already lost it. Whatever your limit is, you stop well before that.
00:35:52.980
Make sure you get there, not late, but get there on time. This would be a party actually,
00:35:58.800
Brett, where I'd say it would be appropriate for you even to arrive a little bit early.
00:36:03.020
So getting there five or 10 minutes before the occasion shows your commitment, your interest,
00:36:09.100
your excitement for the occasion, even if you're not that excited about being there.
00:36:13.380
And I would definitely, you don't want to be, again, hearkening back to what we were speaking
00:36:17.860
about earlier. You don't want to be literally the last person standing at the end of the night,
00:36:22.340
you know, as Donna Summer's last dance is blasting from the DJ booth, the last person there.
00:36:27.380
But you do want to stay for sure through whatever company speeches. And I would, in your mind,
00:36:34.360
tell yourself before you go strategically, there are six people I must have FaceTime with at this
00:36:41.540
occasion. And whoever those folks are, maybe it's your boss, maybe it's your boss's boss or your
00:36:45.880
boss's boss's boss. Make sure you get in front of those people, have quality engagement with them.
00:36:52.320
Don't be a one-track pony. You don't want to talk only of work,
00:36:55.140
seeming like you have nothing to contribute besides your work that you do for this company.
00:37:00.560
So be that sparkly, lively, in control, sober, early guest who doesn't stay too long.
00:37:07.700
I would dress, again, dress the part. You don't need to look like you, you know,
00:37:12.300
just came from a meeting with your tax accountant. You can look festive, but keep it tasteful.
00:37:16.980
All right. So let your hair down, but don't let it down so much where you get called into HR the next
00:37:24.020
I think that's what we're going for. Let's talk about gifts. Do you have any tips for being a
00:37:30.080
You know, we're living in an age of obviously high inflation. I just did a TV segment yesterday on
00:37:37.060
people who are just going into massive debt already. You know, here we are, not even at the holiday
00:37:43.180
season and people are already doing their shopping and going into credit card debt to do so.
00:37:48.020
I really believe it sounds so corny. We all know the saying, it's the thought that counts.
00:37:52.840
It really shouldn't be about how extravagant the gift is. And if you find that your gift list is so
00:37:58.520
long that you're going into debt or that you feel you're one-upping people by giving them something
00:38:03.440
that's super expensive, I think that's a really unfortunate situation and something that you're going
00:38:08.720
to be dealing with the consequences of for the balance of the new year. And that's not a good
00:38:14.400
thing. So I think the idea of what to give someone can start early. But what I like to do is if people,
00:38:23.580
friends, coworkers, loved ones drop the occasional gem about something that's an interest of theirs,
00:38:31.020
maybe someone who's a new acquaintance, but becoming a good friend happens to mention
00:38:35.980
their favorite movie or their favorite food or their favorite book or their favorite author.
00:38:42.000
I think I like to keep a spreadsheet of those sorts of things or the people I think I probably will be
00:38:48.160
buying something for come holiday time or come birthday time. And having that readily accessible
00:38:53.980
to me, almost like a little mini Salesforce database, except it's very DIY. Now when the season arrives,
00:39:00.880
I'm ready to give something that truly shows thoughtfulness and I'm not reduced to a gift card
00:39:06.840
for a store that they don't even shop at or something that's a re-gift that has them scratching their head
00:39:13.060
saying, why in the world did the person give this to me? But I would say at its core, let's think about
00:39:18.160
the holidays as an opportunity to really remember the people who are important in our lives. And that's not
00:39:22.360
always about a present. It could simply be something that is a very thoughtful card
00:39:27.380
that is handwritten and that expresses why that person is important to you.
00:39:32.020
I think that really is where it starts. If you feel that on top of that, you want to give a gift,
00:39:36.200
that's a lovely thing to do, but make it a thoughtful gesture and don't leave them scratching their heads.
00:39:42.420
What do you do if someone gets you a gift and you didn't get them a gift? That happens sometimes.
00:39:47.840
It does. And this can happen between friends who perhaps don't have a gift exchange
00:39:53.760
as part of their friendship compact, their unspoken friendship compact. And suddenly
00:39:58.780
someone decides that this year they're going to get something for you.
00:40:02.960
I think the knee-jerk reaction that people often have in that situation is that stock line,
00:40:09.400
oh, you shouldn't have, which is a really not a very, you know, I get why someone would say that,
00:40:15.080
but it's a really, when you think about it, it's kind of a prescriptive thing to say to someone
00:40:19.300
who's excited about giving you a gift. So showing gratitude, not immediately excusing yourself to
00:40:25.920
the restroom and rubbing through your coat closet or your upstairs hall closet where you can find
00:40:31.300
something to throw into a gift bag to pretend like you had a gift for them as well. So I wouldn't
00:40:37.000
stress out about it so much. I would simply accept it gracefully and of course send them a really nice
00:40:43.560
thank you note. And then perhaps next year you might, if we're talking about a holiday gift,
00:40:49.080
you might have the conversation a little bit earlier in the process so that you're both clear
00:40:53.740
that, you know, I know last year you were so generous. You, you, you know, you gave me that
00:40:57.960
lovely vase. Please know that our friendship means so much to me that really I don't ever expect a gift
00:41:04.020
from you. And I hope that's okay. Would be a conversation to kind of put it out there in a nice way
00:41:09.380
before any further awkwardness happens. You mentioned earlier, there's a lot of people
00:41:13.780
struggling financially and sometimes you might be put in a situation where you have a friend or
00:41:18.000
maybe a family member who they're doing better than you financially. And so they're always giving
00:41:23.120
you gifts that are much more expensive than you can give. And then you might feel bad. Like
00:41:27.240
any ideas on how to navigate that situation? I think, you know, I, I, that's, that's a challenging
00:41:33.340
one. And I think for someone to, to have that conversation and say, gosh, this is so expensive,
00:41:38.900
you know, why did you spend so much money on me? It's an awkward thing, especially you're taking
00:41:43.220
the wind out of the sails of someone who's really excited for what they've bought. I think if your
00:41:48.780
friends, if you are family members and you're exchanging gifts and there's a great inequity
00:41:53.980
of the financial value of what you're giving, I would own that as the person I might say,
00:42:00.300
oh my goodness, this is so generous. Uh, you know, I, I, I can't even believe that, uh, that you're
00:42:05.280
giving this to me. I don't even know what to say. I have something for you too. It's far more modest.
00:42:11.140
You know, I hope you don't take that as any indication of my feelings for you, but rather a
00:42:17.140
feeling, uh, a reflection of what my budget is. You know, if money were a new object, you know,
00:42:21.980
I'd be buying you Ferrari. I think that would be a way of kind of putting it out there in a,
00:42:26.200
in a genuine, authentic way. I think sometimes friends are a little bit fearful of having monetary
00:42:31.660
conversations like this. And I think it's a healthy thing to do for any relationship. So,
00:42:37.320
you know, I wouldn't make excuses. I wouldn't hem and haw. I would be gracious. I'd accept it unless
00:42:42.820
it's exorbitant. You know, if somebody's, you know, bought you a diamond necklace out of nowhere,
00:42:48.480
well, this obviously needs to be discussed, but if they just bought you a gift that, you know,
00:42:53.900
was probably somewhat pricey and you can't reciprocate, I wouldn't feel bad about that. I would own the
00:42:59.500
conversation and be very grateful that you have such a generous friend who obviously thinks very
00:43:04.000
highly of you. What do you do if you get a gift you don't like? Depending on the who of who's getting,
00:43:11.060
you know, if this is a gift from your spouse, it's going to be a little bit more difficult to
00:43:15.560
squirrel it away in a drawer or, or take it back or re-gift it because they of course are going to
00:43:22.480
know you're not using it. You're not wearing it. You're not displaying it. So especially if this is
00:43:27.300
something that, you know, they spent a lot of money on, I would be candid with them in a very
00:43:31.860
gentle way, but perhaps not in the moment. So don't steal their thunder as you open the present
00:43:38.220
and kind of all eyes are on you as you've, you know, unfurled the bow suddenly say, Oh gosh,
00:43:44.760
really? You got this. This is obviously not an appropriate way to react. So I would show
00:43:50.980
appreciation and your, your glee at receiving this particular gift in the moment. And then perhaps
00:43:58.660
later on that day or the following day, you know, honey, you know, I gotta say, I really, I so
00:44:04.840
appreciate that gift. I don't think that's something I would ever really wear. It just, you know, it
00:44:09.760
doesn't flatter my physique, whatever. I would have that candid conversation because if you pretend you
00:44:14.720
love it too much, well, guess what? You're going to be getting something similar for your birthday
00:44:18.220
and every other occasion coming in the next 10 years. So own it now, speak now or forever,
00:44:23.900
hold your peace with a friend or with a fringe acquaintance. I don't think that conversation is
00:44:29.300
particularly necessary, or maybe, maybe it's the host gift, someone you were hosting and somebody
00:44:33.860
brought you something and you don't particularly like it. There's no need at that moment or ever
00:44:38.840
to express any dissatisfaction. I would perhaps just think about either returning it or regifting it
00:44:44.840
to someone who you genuinely know would appreciate it more than you did for whatever reason.
00:44:48.960
Oh, so you mentioned regifting. You think it's okay to regift?
00:44:51.260
I think regifting is a wonderful thing for the planet. I think it's a wonderful thing for the
00:44:56.780
wallet, but it's got to be done intentionally. So you realizing it's December 23rd and you hate
00:45:04.580
shopping and you haven't done any shopping and you decide all the shopping is going to be done
00:45:08.300
in your junk closet. This is not anything that's being done with intention. So if for whatever
00:45:15.000
reason you already have one, you simply don't have space for it, you're paring down. I think
00:45:20.900
regifting can be a great way of saving funds and also really pleasing a gift recipient when it's done
00:45:27.900
thoughtfully. So as you think about the person that you're going to be regifting to, is this someone
00:45:33.540
who genuinely really will love this? Or is this someone who will be looking at this saying,
00:45:40.180
I don't understand why I was given this present or, oh gosh, there's a tag on it and it's an old tag
00:45:47.180
because obviously it was given to you as a gift. So you want to make sure that the original gift tags
00:45:52.380
are gone. You want to make sure that the wrapping is fresh and contemporary and newly done by you.
00:45:59.260
And you want to make sure that it's in good condition, that it doesn't look like it's something
00:46:03.160
that's been used or is tattered or torn. It should be in as new condition as possible. And as long as
00:46:09.380
you're doing it intentionally, I think it can be a wonderful win-win situation.
00:46:13.700
And also make sure you don't re-gift the gift to the original gift giver.
00:46:18.540
That would be a mistake. Or even Brett, giving within the same gifting circle. So maybe your group
00:46:25.960
of friends gets together for dinner to exchange holiday gifts and you've now given the gift that was
00:46:31.140
given to you by friend A and you're giving it to friend B while friend A looks on in horror,
00:46:36.160
this would not be a winning strategy either. So gift outside gifting circles.
00:46:42.420
Also, the one final thing I would say about re-gifting, if you're re-gifting something that
00:46:46.140
has a really interesting backstory that you cannot own, for example, it's a souvenir from a country you
00:46:54.220
have never visited and it was a gift to you and you're now giving this to someone else.
00:46:58.060
If you have no genuine backstory that you can present about where you got that or why it's
00:47:02.640
meaningful to you, this is not something that you should be re-gifting. Or if your grandmother
00:47:06.980
knitted you an afghan that took her a year to knit and you're suddenly giving granny's afghan that she
00:47:13.040
gave to you to a friend, this would not be a winning strategy either. So make sure that if there's a
00:47:18.060
backstory, you keep that. This is what trunks are for.
00:47:21.240
In our last conversation, we talked about tipping culture in the United States today and how it's
00:47:26.720
gotten out of control. You're getting asked for tips when you go to the self-serve yogurt shop
00:47:31.780
and the person there didn't do anything to help you out. But the holidays, there's kind of an
00:47:36.940
etiquette around holiday tipping. Is there any special tipping considerations we should take
00:47:41.880
into account when we are around Thanksgiving, Christmas?
00:47:44.460
Sure. Yeah. So we are definitely, we are living through the era of tipping fatigue and
00:47:49.920
tipflation. I actually did a TED talk on this last year called The Tipping Invasion, How America
00:47:55.080
Became the Country That Tips for Everything, Everywhere, All at Once. And I think indeed, there
00:48:00.980
is no question people are feeling, again, tightness of budgets. The wallet is being hit everywhere we go.
00:48:07.220
But that's not an excuse or a rationale for scrimping on the all-important and time-honored
00:48:15.100
tradition of tipping the service professionals who make our lives day-to-day that much easier. So
00:48:22.040
these may be individuals that we're not tipping very much, if anything, on an ongoing basis throughout
00:48:27.860
the year for their service to us. But at the end of the year, this is the time to recognize them. And
00:48:32.980
this is largely people who live in urban places. They tend to have a lot more. They might have dog
00:48:39.160
walkers. They might have doorman. They might have, you know, a porter in the building they work. But
00:48:45.100
for all of us, we all get our hair cut. You know, maybe you, you know, have someone who colors your
00:48:50.180
hair. You may have a massage therapist or a personal trainer. You know, you're not tipping these
00:48:55.480
individuals with the exception of the folks working on your hair or giving you a massage. You're
00:49:00.440
probably not tipping them on an ongoing regular basis when you visit with them. But that doesn't
00:49:06.600
mean that you don't recognize them at the end of the year with a gratuity. And it's something that
00:49:11.440
those service professionals, you know, they allow us to be at our best through the year. And I think
00:49:16.880
it's really important for us to remember them at the end of the year. This is very, very different
00:49:20.600
from the person who is ringing up your self-serve yogurt asking, you know, how was my service? Do I get
00:49:27.480
five stars? And do I get $5? This is someone that you have an ongoing relationship with.
00:49:32.700
Yeah. So it's going to be like a babysitter, a house cleaner, a landscaper. They're doing stuff
00:49:37.480
for you throughout the year. You're not tipping them usually. This is a chance to give them a tip.
00:49:43.140
That's right. Pool cleaner and so on. Yes. The sanitation workers.
00:49:46.820
Any like, any like recommendations, like how much should you tip for those situations?
00:49:50.920
It's, it's a little bit easier with the service professionals that you actually do give some
00:49:55.720
sort of a tip throughout the year. So for example, the person who's cutting your hair,
00:49:59.080
the general guideline there is that you tip the cost of one visit. So if you get a $60 haircut,
00:50:06.100
and maybe you're tipping $12 or $15 for that haircut on every visit, your holiday gratuity,
00:50:12.260
your end of year gratuity would be the $60 that you'd pay for the one haircut. In other categories,
00:50:17.200
it's a little bit more fluid, but there are some guidelines there as well. So it may be,
00:50:22.820
for example, with a house cleaner, it may be who you're not tipping each and every time,
00:50:28.260
the cost of a single visit to your home. For a babysitter, it may be the amount of one night's
00:50:35.600
babysitting or for someone who's an au pair, for example, who lives with your family. Very often
00:50:41.360
we'll see from one week to even one month of what you would pay that au pair who lives with you and
00:50:48.240
travels with you as a holiday gratuity. I think a week is certainly generous, but I hear stories
00:50:53.680
about people who give a full month. If you were in a city and you're tipping a doorman or a porter,
00:51:01.260
the parking garage attendants who park your car for you, again, in an urban center, there the values
00:51:07.140
really vary geographically. So again, I live in New York. This is the capital city of tipping when it
00:51:13.260
comes to the holidays. Doorman could be anywhere from a couple hundred dollars on up in a luxury
00:51:19.380
building or less. So as I said before, I think it's really important for all of us to feel comfortable
00:51:24.800
with the idea of speaking with other people about money. And so I have no compunction asking my
00:51:31.900
neighbors, hey, I'm new in the building. I'm new in the city. Could you give me a guideline? What do
00:51:38.480
people generally tip our super? What do people generally tip the doorman? And this will give you
00:51:43.860
some indication. So you don't want to be the outlier. You don't want to be tipping drastically
00:51:47.820
less, but there's no need really to be tipping drastically more. Well, Thomas, this has been a
00:51:53.080
great conversation. Where can people go to learn more about your work? Brett, thank you so much for
00:51:57.360
the conversation and the wonderful work that you do on AOM. I am Mr. Manners. That's spelled out
00:52:03.400
Mr. M-I-S-T-E-R, Manners, on X and Instagram. The website is Mr., again spelled out, hyphen,
00:52:11.540
manners.com. And I'm regularly on TV screens across the country speaking on all aspects of modern
00:52:19.240
manners and etiquette. We're not talking Downton Abbey here. We're talking about the everyday
00:52:23.820
interactions that make all of us a better version of ourselves.
00:52:28.300
Well, Thomas Farley, Mr. Manners, thanks for your time and happy holidays.
00:52:35.900
My guest here is Thomas Farley, also known as Mr. Manners. You can find more information about
00:52:39.320
his work at his website, mr-manners.com. Also check out our show notes at aom.is
00:52:44.420
slash holiday etiquette, where you find links to resources when we delve deeper into this topic.
00:52:55.480
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