The Art of Manliness - Jack London's Literary Code [Rebroadcast]

00:00:00.840 My guest in this episode, Dr. Earl Labor, died on September 15th at the age of 94.

00:00:06.280 Earl was the world's foremost authority on one of the art of manliness' guiding inspirations and lights, Jack London.

00:00:12.060 Earl dedicated his career to London scholarship, and his work was pivotal in turning London's literature into a subject of serious study.

00:00:18.900 Earl taught the very first undergraduate and graduate courses devoted to London, and penned 100 articles and 10 books about him.

00:00:25.000 Earl not only admired London's devotion to what the author called the true spirit of romance and adventure,

00:00:30.220 he sought that spirit in his own life.

00:00:32.300 As an undergraduate, Earl started the first weightlifting course at Southern Methodist University,

00:00:36.320 and he coached and lifted the SMU team to victory in the 1948 Dallas Open Championships.

00:00:41.620 After college, he and a buddy took an epic road trip, where they did farm work and entered boxing matches to work their way from Texas to Canada.

00:00:48.120 And he served in the U.S. Navy and spent time on a destroyer.

00:00:51.100 I had the privilege of interviewing Earl three times for the AOM podcast.

00:00:54.420 The last time, in January 2020, my son and I drove to Earl's home in Shreveport, Louisiana, to speak with him in person.

00:01:01.100 To mark Earl's passing, please enjoy this re-podcast of that conversation.

00:01:04.980 Brett McKay here, and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast.

00:01:16.280 The literature of Jack London has long been given the short shrift by scholars.

00:01:19.880 They say he wrote some good dog stories for boys, but beyond that, didn't showcase any literary genius or high-level craftsmanship.

00:01:25.820 Well, my guest today begs to differ with this assessment.

00:01:28.380 His name is Earl Labor.

00:01:29.120 He's the preeminent Jack London scholar and 91 years young.

00:01:32.340 I've had Earl on the podcast two previous times.

00:01:34.400 The first to discuss his landmark Jack London biography.

00:01:36.880 That's episode number 67.

00:01:38.360 And the second to discuss his own memoir, The Far Music.

00:01:40.720 And that's episode number 370.

00:01:42.320 For this episode, I drove down to Earl's home in Shreveport, Louisiana,

00:01:45.680 to talk to Earl about the overlooked literary genius of Jack London

00:01:48.660 and the big themes that London wrote about in his novels and short stories.

00:01:52.100 We begin our discussion with Earl's story of how he became a Jack London scholar

00:01:55.040 and why London's work was historically neglected by academics.

00:01:57.860 We then dig into London's literary themes by first discussing how he used the Klondike

00:02:02.000 as a symbolic proving ground for men and how success in this wilderness

00:02:05.180 depended on one's ability to mold oneself to Jack's Northland code.

00:02:09.440 Earl uses excerpts from my favorite London story in A Far Country,

00:02:12.640 as well as To Build a Fire in the Call of the Wild,

00:02:14.920 to showcase the tenets of this code, as well as London's literary artistry.

00:02:18.620 Earl then explains how London shifted his themes later in his career with his agrarian writing,

00:02:23.000 how his wife Charmian changed his perception of real women and his female characters,

00:02:26.480 and the influence psychologist Carl Jung had on London's last works.

00:02:30.300 Consider this episode a masterclass on the literature of Jack London.

00:02:33.540 After it's over, check out our show notes at awim.is slash London.

00:02:46.120 All right, Earl Labor, welcome back to the show.

00:02:49.860 Thanks, Brett. It's great to be here again.

00:02:52.000 So we had you on, I'm going to say five years ago, six years ago, to talk about your Jack London biography.

00:02:58.780 Then we had you on again to talk about your memoir, The Far Music, which I know a lot of our listeners enjoyed.

00:03:05.960 This time, I've made a trip down to Shreveport, Louisiana.

00:03:10.080 Come shake your hand because I wanted to meet you after all these years.

00:03:12.620 And then to talk more about Jack London, particularly about the literary themes of Jack London,

00:03:18.600 because that's what you spent your career writing about, researching about, lecturing about,

00:03:24.300 was Jack London and his literature.

00:03:27.440 So I think the first question I'd like to start off with is,

00:03:30.000 how did you get started, or how did you become a Jack London scholar?

00:03:33.460 I'm going back to 1948, Brett.

00:03:39.560 A professor at SMU named George Bond taught a course in the American novel.

00:03:49.980 And among the novels he chose, not only Hemingway and Faulkner and Fitzgerald,

00:03:56.920 he chose an obscure novel by Jack London titled Martin Eden.

00:04:02.700 My best friend, P.B. Lindsay, a combat veteran from the Second World War,

00:04:11.040 a couple of years older, but much older in many ways,

00:04:14.580 took that course and told me,

00:04:16.980 Earl, Martin Eden is a very powerful novel.

00:04:21.400 You need to read it.

00:04:22.920 At that time, I had some other interests, mostly extra literary.

00:04:27.440 But four years later, I'm on a weekend pass to New York City

00:04:33.720 from the Recruit Training Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.

00:04:39.060 Downtown Manhattan, just strolling around, looking at the sites,

00:04:43.620 walked into this newsstand and saw a 25-cent Penguin paperback of Martin Eden.

00:04:53.120 Well, my friend had recommended it.

00:04:57.400 I thought I'd look at it.

00:04:59.400 I took it down and bought it, put it in my hip pocket to take back to the bus.

00:05:05.460 I started reading it on the bus back to the base.

00:05:09.200 Could not put it down, Brett.

00:05:11.720 I stayed up all night.

00:05:13.880 I wasn't up exactly.

00:05:15.360 I stayed in my bunk with my flashlight on.

00:05:18.660 I was so fascinated with that novel.

00:05:22.440 And I said, when I go back to get a Ph.D.,

00:05:26.760 Jack London is going to be my subject.

00:05:29.600 And that was the beginning of my serious study.

00:05:33.520 And that was a while before I got to that

00:05:35.620 because I had some other obligations at the time

00:05:39.720 to Uncle Sam in the military, training recruits at that base in Maryland.

00:05:49.060 Also, I spent some time on a USS AO destroyer.

00:05:54.800 But when I got out of the Navy, I had a family, a wife and a child.

00:05:59.340 And I didn't have a job.

00:06:00.620 So I went to work for Hager Company in Dallas.

00:06:05.300 Men's Slacks was really lucky in terms of that was an up-and-growing company.

00:06:11.760 But I found that the intellectual challenge of men's pants

00:06:16.680 were a bit thin after about six weeks.

00:06:20.060 I was doing okay from their point of view,

00:06:22.260 but I wanted to get back into teaching.

00:06:24.840 So the same professor, George Bond,

00:06:28.440 called me one Saturday morning in early 1955

00:06:34.620 and said, Earl, there's a little college,

00:06:38.900 liberal arts college over in Shreveport looking for an instructor.

00:06:43.240 If you're interested in getting back into teaching,

00:06:46.320 I'll recommend you.

00:06:47.960 Three weeks later, I was teaching at Centenary College

00:06:53.220 and have been teaching on and off at Centenary ever since then

00:06:57.840 until my retirement a few years ago.

00:07:00.400 Took off a few years for various things.

00:07:03.320 I may have mentioned in some of my early work,

00:07:06.040 such as a Fulbright lectureship in Denmark for a year, etc., etc.

00:07:12.220 But mainly, I've been teaching and working on Jack London ever since.

00:07:18.400 So for your PhD,

00:07:20.060 you did the first major study on Jack London as a true literary artist,

00:07:24.300 and you were really breaking new ground

00:07:26.080 because for a long time,

00:07:27.920 the literary establishment didn't take London's work seriously,

00:07:30.780 and very few scholars had studied his craftsmanship.

00:07:34.620 Why was that?

00:07:35.920 And what's the status of London today in literature,

00:07:38.300 particularly in terms of scholarship?

00:07:40.200 Well, it's on the rise for sure,

00:07:42.880 as been for the past generation or so.

00:07:46.080 It's amazing to see what's happened

00:07:47.940 in the last couple of decades.

00:07:50.540 But for a long time,

00:07:52.760 he was dismissed as a little more, as I say,

00:07:55.820 than a hack writer for adventure stories and what have you.

00:08:01.800 Fortunately, there have been a number of breakthroughs

00:08:04.940 just in the last two or three decades.

00:08:07.780 Actually, to be honest, Brett,

00:08:09.880 I think over the past half century or so,

00:08:13.420 I have a lecture that I give sometimes

00:08:16.560 on the politics of literary reputation,

00:08:19.860 and I explained to my students,

00:08:21.740 I said, look, the books you read,

00:08:25.120 the ones you read in high school

00:08:26.580 and many that you read in college

00:08:28.680 were not handed down to Moses on that tablet

00:08:31.980 that they're selected by a certain group,

00:08:36.180 and those are the so-called elite.

00:08:39.740 They decide what you're going to read.

00:08:41.580 They decide, for example,

00:08:42.700 you're going to read Shakespeare

00:08:44.200 and maybe Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter,

00:08:47.200 which is fine,

00:08:48.620 but they should be also assigning

00:08:51.220 Jack London's The Seawolf or something

00:08:53.900 in addition to Call of the Wild.

00:08:57.020 Anyhow, London was not a part of the group

00:09:02.920 that makes those decisions.

00:09:06.220 Now, you ask, for one thing,

00:09:08.800 London was a Western writer,

00:09:11.180 and they were not part of the Eastern establishment

00:09:14.880 that pretty well dictated

00:09:17.560 the literary selections or whatever

00:09:22.420 at the time in the 19th and even 20th century.

00:09:27.220 Eric Miles Williamson uses the term

00:09:29.820 the Ivy Mafia.

00:09:32.500 That may not be quite fair,

00:09:34.080 but I think it's kind of fun.

00:09:36.100 Anyhow, the idea that it's those Easterners

00:09:39.740 back in the 19th century,

00:09:42.740 even early 20th century,

00:09:45.020 centered around Boston, New York.

00:09:48.480 William Dean Howells was the leader

00:09:51.820 of that group for a generation.

00:09:54.940 Interesting that he encouraged writers

00:09:58.000 like Amalyn Garland, Stephen Crane,

00:10:01.200 even Emily Dickinson.

00:10:02.100 And here is London at the time,

00:10:05.880 the most popular of all of them,

00:10:09.160 and virtually ignored by William Dean Howells.

00:10:13.240 Now, that's got to have been deliberate, I think.

00:10:16.920 So all of that ties into what I call

00:10:20.840 the politics of literary reputation,

00:10:23.960 which has impeded the recognition of Jack

00:10:27.280 for a number of years.

00:10:28.400 But finally, we're getting that recognition

00:10:31.520 as a result of what's been done

00:10:33.820 over the past 50 years

00:10:35.720 and certainly the last generation.

00:10:38.040 My own student, Jeanne Campbell,

00:10:40.100 has become Jeanne Campbell Reisman,

00:10:42.500 started the Jack London Society

00:10:44.540 in about 1990 or so.

00:10:50.440 And Ken Brandt is currently

00:10:53.540 the executive director of that.

00:10:57.880 And just in the last few years,

00:11:01.100 the Modern Language Association

00:11:03.000 has published a collection of essays

00:11:08.740 on London called Teaching Jack London

00:11:13.440 that's been edited by Ken Brandt

00:11:16.080 and Jeanne Reisman,

00:11:17.300 has over 20 essays by different scholars.

00:11:19.960 Even more recently,

00:11:22.540 the Oxford University Press

00:11:24.220 has published a handbook of Jack London

00:11:27.560 edited by Jay Williams

00:11:29.580 that has more than 30 essays

00:11:32.420 by different scholars in there,

00:11:34.280 which says something about

00:11:35.740 what's happening to Jack London

00:11:37.580 and his status during the last decade or two.

00:11:42.640 So yeah, he's on the rise.

00:11:43.800 Let's talk about some of the themes

00:11:45.860 that Jack London wrote about

00:11:47.780 during his career.

00:11:48.900 And we'll get into detail

00:11:50.740 about some of these things.

00:11:52.040 But before we do that,

00:11:53.820 could you give us

00:11:54.820 just a big picture overview

00:11:56.260 of sort of an outline

00:11:58.320 of the themes that he wrote about

00:11:59.960 both in his fiction

00:12:00.960 and in his nonfiction?

00:12:02.920 I'm looking here,

00:12:04.440 and I'll simplify this in a minute.

00:12:07.200 I was just looking at my introduction

00:12:09.340 to the portable.

00:12:11.560 Thematically,

00:12:13.080 London's works move

00:12:15.360 from the foolishness of pride

00:12:17.280 ruthlessness of greed,

00:12:20.000 blindness of racial prejudice,

00:12:23.200 and the senselessness of war

00:12:25.120 to the indomitability of the human spirit,

00:12:29.400 the unfailing salvation

00:12:31.180 of true comradeship,

00:12:34.280 and the ageless wisdom

00:12:36.040 of the great mother and the water baby.

00:12:38.860 I could talk later

00:12:40.740 about the great mother archetype

00:12:43.960 and the water baby,

00:12:45.480 which is London's last story,

00:12:47.120 which is very revealing.

00:12:48.500 But in more general terms,

00:12:51.600 I like to say

00:12:52.840 that one of the overriding themes

00:12:56.520 is love.

00:12:57.920 Love of adventure,

00:13:00.100 love of life,

00:13:01.780 love of humanity,

00:13:03.900 love of nature,

00:13:04.840 love of man for woman,

00:13:08.280 comradeship,

00:13:10.220 camaraderie,

00:13:11.620 love of seeking,

00:13:13.940 and what have you.

00:13:15.560 It's a kind of passion

00:13:18.000 that he has.

00:13:19.660 And my biography,

00:13:21.320 I've talked about

00:13:21.940 the seeking drive,

00:13:23.240 for example,

00:13:24.620 that London had

00:13:26.100 in extreme measure

00:13:28.540 that the neuroscientists

00:13:31.560 have discovered

00:13:32.300 a generation ago

00:13:33.860 is that basic drive

00:13:35.780 along with fear and hunger,

00:13:38.360 sex and the rest of it,

00:13:40.140 that leads mammals

00:13:41.360 to seek new adventures

00:13:44.180 even at the expense of food

00:13:46.840 and ferrets sometimes.

00:13:50.920 Anyhow,

00:13:51.680 it's fascinating to see this at work.

00:13:54.800 I'm trying to think

00:13:55.320 of other things.

00:13:57.120 Of course,

00:13:57.960 the hatred of anything

00:13:59.000 that was restricting

00:14:00.300 that deprived human beings

00:14:03.640 of their essential humanity

00:14:06.120 and liberty

00:14:07.280 or what have you,

00:14:08.880 those seem to be themes

00:14:11.020 that run throughout his work.

00:14:13.180 One thing that he,

00:14:15.100 I think it was a common theme

00:14:16.220 throughout all of his work

00:14:17.300 is this idea of man versus nature

00:14:19.320 and nature being

00:14:21.500 sort of a proving ground

00:14:23.040 for men.

00:14:24.960 And I think you've written about this

00:14:26.300 that as nature,

00:14:27.460 there's like four types

00:14:28.400 of environments

00:14:29.540 that London wrote about

00:14:31.900 where you see this motif

00:14:33.460 of man versus nature.

00:14:34.640 Can you talk a bit about that?

00:14:35.860 Are you talking about

00:14:36.660 symbolic wilderness?

00:14:38.200 Symbolic wilderness.

00:14:39.340 Yeah.

00:14:40.060 I'm going back now

00:14:41.120 about, what,

00:14:42.240 50 more years.

00:14:44.660 And a Texas scholar,

00:14:47.540 University of Texas scholar

00:14:48.720 named Gordon Mills

00:14:49.900 published a very fine article

00:14:52.160 in 19th century fiction

00:14:55.060 on the symbolic wilderness

00:14:58.760 contrasting James Fenimore Cooper's

00:15:02.660 version of that wilderness

00:15:04.160 with Jack London's,

00:15:05.920 saying that Fenimore Cooper's wilderness

00:15:08.920 was pretty consistent

00:15:10.160 and what have you,

00:15:12.320 but Jack London's version

00:15:15.300 of the symbolic wilderness

00:15:17.320 was confusing

00:15:20.620 and didn't seem to have

00:15:22.840 any sense of organization

00:15:27.180 or what have you.

00:15:29.100 So I thought about it.

00:15:30.480 I said, well,

00:15:31.660 I don't think Gordon Mills

00:15:34.000 has read Jack London's work

00:15:35.980 carefully enough.

00:15:37.500 There are four different versions.

00:15:38.960 in the Northland,

00:15:40.920 then there's the Polynesia,

00:15:43.660 which I call

00:15:44.480 London's paradise lost,

00:15:46.260 and there's Melanesia,

00:15:47.880 which I call the Inferno,

00:15:49.660 and then there's

00:15:50.200 the Valley of the Moon,

00:15:51.780 which is Jack London's

00:15:53.920 pastoral wilderness

00:15:55.800 or what have you.

00:15:57.220 And each has its own

00:15:58.400 distinctive characteristics.

00:16:01.560 The qualities that a man

00:16:05.020 needs to survive

00:16:06.260 in the Northland

00:16:08.080 are totally different

00:16:09.980 from what he needs

00:16:11.400 to survive in Melanesia

00:16:14.040 and the Northland,

00:16:16.300 I think these are spelled out

00:16:17.720 pretty clearly

00:16:18.360 in the opening

00:16:19.860 of In a Far Country.

00:16:22.420 I think one of your own

00:16:23.460 favorite stories...

00:16:24.760 My favorite story.

00:16:25.340 If you give me a minute,

00:16:26.020 I'd like to read that.

00:16:27.020 Let's do it,

00:16:27.440 because it's my favorite.

00:16:28.260 It's the favorite thing

00:16:29.040 that Jack London ever wrote.

00:16:31.300 Brett dispels it out.

00:16:33.340 I'm reading the beginning

00:16:34.680 of In a Far Country,

00:16:36.200 which I call

00:16:37.740 an exemplum.

00:16:39.680 In other words,

00:16:41.360 if a preacher's

00:16:42.520 delivering a sermon,

00:16:44.240 he wants to tell

00:16:45.300 a story,

00:16:47.960 a pretty dramatic

00:16:50.100 story to illustrate

00:16:52.480 his sermon.

00:16:53.900 And that's sometimes

00:16:54.880 called an exemplum,

00:16:56.300 and that's what

00:16:56.920 we've got

00:16:58.640 in a Far Country.

00:17:00.180 And here's the sermon.

00:17:01.620 When a man journeys

00:17:04.240 into a far country,

00:17:07.060 he must be prepared

00:17:08.520 to forget many

00:17:09.660 of the things

00:17:10.360 he has learned

00:17:11.240 and to acquire

00:17:12.940 such customs

00:17:13.940 as are inherent

00:17:15.540 with the existence

00:17:16.720 of the new land.

00:17:18.360 He must abandon

00:17:19.700 the old ideals,

00:17:22.340 the old gods,

00:17:24.020 and oftentimes

00:17:24.720 he must reverse

00:17:26.740 the very codes

00:17:27.620 by which his conduct

00:17:30.240 has hitherto

00:17:31.580 been shaped.

00:17:33.160 To those

00:17:34.000 who have

00:17:34.540 the protein

00:17:35.340 faculty

00:17:36.560 of adaptability,

00:17:39.700 the novelty

00:17:40.460 of such change

00:17:41.600 may even be

00:17:42.300 a source of pleasure.

00:17:44.160 But to those

00:17:45.020 who happen

00:17:45.460 to be hardened

00:17:46.360 in the ruts

00:17:47.800 in which they were created,

00:17:49.660 the pressure

00:17:50.420 of the altered

00:17:51.420 environment

00:17:52.120 is unbearable.

00:17:54.320 They chafe

00:17:54.960 in body

00:17:55.780 and in spirit

00:17:56.760 under the new

00:17:57.480 restrictions

00:17:58.120 which they do

00:17:59.760 not understand.

00:18:01.680 This chafing

00:18:02.460 is bound

00:18:03.040 to act

00:18:03.700 and react

00:18:04.440 and producing

00:18:05.880 diverse evils

00:18:07.380 leading to

00:18:08.600 various misfortunes.

00:18:11.000 It were better

00:18:11.720 for the man

00:18:12.520 who cannot

00:18:13.220 fit himself

00:18:14.060 to the new

00:18:14.840 groove

00:18:15.700 to return

00:18:16.340 to his own country.

00:18:17.780 If he delay

00:18:18.780 too long,

00:18:20.300 he will surely

00:18:21.760 die.

00:18:23.140 The man

00:18:24.120 who turns

00:18:24.660 his back

00:18:25.200 upon the comforts

00:18:26.200 of an elder

00:18:26.780 civilization

00:18:27.620 to face

00:18:28.900 the savage youth,

00:18:30.720 the primordial

00:18:31.540 simplicity

00:18:32.180 of the North

00:18:33.140 may estimate

00:18:34.600 success

00:18:35.440 at an inverse

00:18:36.280 ratio

00:18:36.920 to the quantity

00:18:38.220 and quality

00:18:39.080 of his hopelessly

00:18:40.880 fixed habits.

00:18:42.240 He will soon

00:18:43.100 discover

00:18:43.660 if he be

00:18:44.840 a fit candidate

00:18:46.240 that the material

00:18:47.840 habits

00:18:48.520 are the less

00:18:49.760 important.

00:18:51.800 The exchange

00:18:52.520 of such things

00:18:53.560 as a dainty

00:18:54.780 menu

00:18:55.360 for rough fare

00:18:56.840 of the stiff

00:18:58.040 leather shoe

00:18:59.360 for the soft

00:19:00.640 shapeless

00:19:01.680 moccasin

00:19:02.300 of the feather bed

00:19:03.880 for a couch

00:19:04.640 in the snow

00:19:05.280 is after all

00:19:06.780 a very easy matter

00:19:07.980 but his pinch

00:19:09.460 will come

00:19:10.060 in learning

00:19:11.040 properly

00:19:12.100 to shape

00:19:13.400 his mind's

00:19:14.400 attitude

00:19:14.800 toward all

00:19:16.480 things

00:19:17.060 and especially

00:19:18.440 toward

00:19:19.540 his fellow

00:19:20.700 man

00:19:21.320 for the

00:19:22.480 courtesies

00:19:23.220 for the

00:19:24.480 courtesies

00:19:25.160 of ordinary

00:19:26.480 life

00:19:27.020 he must

00:19:28.080 substitute

00:19:28.820 unselfishness

00:19:30.800 forbearance

00:19:32.360 and tolerance

00:19:34.020 thus

00:19:35.280 and thus

00:19:36.020 only

00:19:36.460 can he gain

00:19:37.720 that pearl

00:19:39.080 of great

00:19:39.660 price

00:19:40.300 true

00:19:41.720 comradeship

00:19:43.460 and that's

00:19:44.920 the key

00:19:45.340 I think

00:19:45.960 to the

00:19:46.980 northern code

00:19:48.180 and the

00:19:49.280 two

00:19:49.500 incapables

00:19:50.300 in the

00:19:50.720 far country

00:19:51.760 as it spells

00:19:52.540 out

00:19:52.840 cannot do

00:19:53.720 that

00:19:54.300 they're

00:19:55.300 totally

00:19:56.080 unfitted

00:19:58.660 to come up

00:19:59.300 there in the

00:19:59.760 first place

00:20:00.320 and they pay

00:20:00.820 the price

00:20:01.500 well yeah

00:20:02.320 I think

00:20:02.680 what I love

00:20:03.240 about the

00:20:03.740 intro

00:20:04.640 to

00:20:05.300 in a far

00:20:05.920 country

00:20:06.280 is that

00:20:06.600 it

00:20:06.780 perfectly

00:20:07.940 encapsulates

00:20:09.340 and summarizes

00:20:10.560 Jack London's

00:20:11.760 what you call

00:20:12.200 the north land

00:20:12.960 code

00:20:13.360 so

00:20:14.320 you know

00:20:14.880 from what

00:20:15.300 we just read

00:20:15.980 there

00:20:16.240 what you just

00:20:16.700 read there

00:20:17.040 part of the

00:20:17.580 north land

00:20:17.960 code

00:20:18.300 is

00:20:18.680 adaptability

00:20:19.800 exactly

00:20:20.580 it's also

00:20:21.400 true comradeship

00:20:23.020 exactly

00:20:23.520 those seem

00:20:24.000 like to be

00:20:24.240 the two

00:20:24.620 important

00:20:25.020 things

00:20:25.560 for

00:20:26.080 London

00:20:26.740 when it

00:20:27.560 came to

00:20:27.800 the north

00:20:28.080 land

00:20:28.280 code

00:20:28.600 both

00:20:29.420 are

00:20:29.620 important

00:20:30.180 there's

00:20:31.120 another

00:20:31.420 factor

00:20:32.040 he doesn't

00:20:32.740 mention

00:20:33.140 here

00:20:33.660 he mentions

00:20:34.760 later

00:20:35.280 in addition

00:20:36.300 to

00:20:36.780 adaptability

00:20:38.200 camaraderie

00:20:40.020 what have

00:20:40.660 you

00:20:40.860 all that

00:20:41.460 there's

00:20:42.320 another

00:20:42.600 factor

00:20:43.100 that

00:20:43.440 comes up

00:20:45.260 very clearly

00:20:46.580 in

00:20:47.320 that great

00:20:48.540 classic

00:20:49.320 to build

00:20:50.200 a fire

00:20:50.820 and

00:20:52.880 we're

00:20:54.420 talking about

00:20:55.160 the man

00:20:56.500 who does

00:20:58.100 not have a

00:20:58.720 name

00:20:59.160 in this

00:21:00.280 version

00:21:00.860 incidentally

00:21:02.240 I've seen

00:21:03.500 the original

00:21:04.100 manuscript

00:21:04.780 and

00:21:06.240 at first

00:21:07.620 when he

00:21:08.020 started this

00:21:08.640 story

00:21:09.060 Jack London

00:21:09.740 gave the

00:21:10.380 man a name

00:21:11.280 I think

00:21:12.180 as I

00:21:12.660 recollect

00:21:13.100 something

00:21:13.420 like

00:21:13.720 John

00:21:14.100 Collins

00:21:14.720 but

00:21:15.920 after

00:21:16.240 about

00:21:16.680 a

00:21:17.620 thousand

00:21:18.000 words

00:21:18.580 meaning

00:21:18.900 after

00:21:19.300 I

00:21:19.520 think

00:21:19.820 the

00:21:20.500 first

00:21:20.820 day

00:21:21.300 he

00:21:22.140 comes

00:21:22.500 back

00:21:22.940 and

00:21:23.140 says

00:21:23.400 this

00:21:23.640 story

00:21:23.960 would

00:21:24.160 be

00:21:24.340 more

00:21:24.640 effective

00:21:25.100 if

00:21:25.920 I

00:21:26.100 made

00:21:26.380 this

00:21:26.700 every

00:21:27.120 man

00:21:27.480 instead

00:21:27.800 of

00:21:28.140 a

00:21:28.580 specific

00:21:29.060 man

00:21:29.620 now

00:21:30.320 by the

00:21:30.620 way

00:21:30.760 you know

00:21:31.040 there's

00:21:31.300 an

00:21:31.420 early

00:21:31.660 version

00:21:32.100 of

00:21:32.300 the

00:21:32.440 story

00:21:32.840 that

00:21:33.180 we

00:21:33.880 found

00:21:34.360 King

00:21:35.280 Hendricks

00:21:35.700 and I

00:21:36.000 found

00:21:36.340 the

00:21:36.540 summer

00:21:36.820 I

00:21:37.020 was

00:21:37.240 working

00:21:37.920 with

00:21:38.180 him

00:21:38.360 out

00:21:38.600 at

00:21:38.780 Utah

00:21:39.120 State

00:21:41.280 what

00:21:41.960 say

00:21:42.360 six

00:21:42.720 years

00:21:43.020 earlier

00:21:43.380 and

00:21:43.580 youth

00:21:43.820 companion

00:21:44.480 totally

00:21:45.340 different

00:21:45.720 from

00:21:46.020 this

00:21:46.400 by the

00:21:47.060 same

00:21:47.340 title

00:21:47.780 but

00:21:48.060 the

00:21:48.720 young

00:21:49.020 man

00:21:49.340 in there

00:21:49.640 is

00:21:49.780 given

00:21:50.020 a

00:21:50.240 name

00:21:50.520 and

00:21:50.660 he

00:21:50.840 survives

00:21:51.540 but

00:21:52.140 this

00:21:52.340 guy

00:21:52.560 is

00:21:52.680 not

00:21:52.880 going

00:21:53.100 to

00:21:53.220 make

00:21:53.500 it

00:21:53.720 and

00:21:54.320 here's

00:21:54.660 why

00:21:55.060 by the

00:21:55.920 way

00:21:56.060 London

00:21:56.460 opens

00:21:57.060 this

00:21:57.260 story

00:21:57.600 talking

00:21:58.100 about

00:21:58.560 how

00:21:59.420 weird

00:21:59.820 the

00:22:00.140 situation

00:22:01.260 is

00:22:01.740 up

00:22:02.440 there

00:22:02.680 very

00:22:03.220 very

00:22:03.480 cold

00:22:04.040 70

00:22:04.860 something

00:22:05.200 degrees

00:22:05.680 below

00:22:06.000 zero

00:22:06.460 no

00:22:06.900 sun

00:22:07.220 in

00:22:07.380 the

00:22:07.540 sky

00:22:07.940 but

00:22:09.460 all

00:22:09.880 this

00:22:10.360 the

00:22:11.160 mysterious

00:22:11.940 far

00:22:12.660 reaching

00:22:13.060 airline

00:22:13.680 trail

00:22:14.180 the

00:22:15.340 absence

00:22:15.780 of

00:22:16.220 sun

00:22:16.520 from

00:22:16.720 the

00:22:16.880 sky

00:22:17.280 the

00:22:18.540 tremendous

00:22:19.100 cold

00:22:19.800 the

00:22:21.000 strangeness

00:22:21.860 and

00:22:22.380 weirdness

00:22:23.220 of it

00:22:23.720 all

00:22:24.120 made

00:22:25.200 no

00:22:25.500 impression

00:22:26.120 on the

00:22:26.640 man

00:22:27.060 it

00:22:28.360 was not

00:22:28.860 because

00:22:29.520 he was

00:22:30.820 long

00:22:31.180 used

00:22:31.520 to it

00:22:32.100 he

00:22:33.440 was

00:22:33.660 newcomer

00:22:34.300 land

00:22:34.720 at

00:22:34.920 chichak

00:22:35.380 quo

00:22:35.780 and

00:22:36.760 this

00:22:36.940 was

00:22:37.120 his

00:22:37.320 first

00:22:37.660 winter

00:22:38.080 the

00:22:39.400 trouble

00:22:39.820 with

00:22:40.160 him

00:22:40.580 was

00:22:41.100 that

00:22:41.800 he

00:22:42.020 was

00:22:42.380 without

00:22:42.960 imagination

00:22:44.280 he

00:22:46.040 was

00:22:46.340 quick

00:22:46.740 and

00:22:47.100 alert

00:22:47.500 in

00:22:47.780 the

00:22:47.980 things

00:22:48.320 of

00:22:48.500 life

00:22:48.960 but

00:22:50.100 only

00:22:50.480 in

00:22:50.680 the

00:22:50.860 things

00:22:51.540 and

00:22:52.400 not

00:22:52.760 in

00:22:53.100 the

00:22:53.340 significances

00:22:54.460 50

00:22:55.860 degrees

00:22:56.520 below

00:22:56.940 zero

00:22:57.600 meant

00:22:58.780 80

00:22:59.880 odd

00:23:00.920 degrees

00:23:01.520 of

00:23:01.760 frost

00:23:02.320 such

00:23:03.600 fact

00:23:04.080 impressed

00:23:04.700 him

00:23:05.040 as

00:23:05.300 being

00:23:05.740 cold

00:23:06.800 and

00:23:07.120 uncomfortable

00:23:07.760 and

00:23:08.640 that

00:23:08.840 was

00:23:09.020 all

00:23:09.480 it

00:23:10.480 did

00:23:10.700 not

00:23:11.000 lead

00:23:11.320 him

00:23:11.700 to

00:23:12.360 meditate

00:23:12.900 upon

00:23:13.960 his

00:23:14.260 frailty

00:23:14.900 as

00:23:16.160 a

00:23:16.400 creature

00:23:16.860 of

00:23:17.620 temperature

00:23:18.180 and

00:23:19.320 upon

00:23:19.780 man's

00:23:21.140 frailty

00:23:22.120 in

00:23:22.580 general

00:23:23.080 able

00:23:24.100 only

00:23:24.660 to

00:23:25.380 live

00:23:25.680 within

00:23:26.060 certain

00:23:26.600 narrow

00:23:27.020 limits

00:23:27.560 of

00:23:28.160 heat

00:23:28.460 and

00:23:28.720 cold

00:23:29.180 and

00:23:30.240 from

00:23:30.500 there

00:23:30.820 on

00:23:31.340 did

00:23:32.100 not

00:23:32.380 lead

00:23:32.700 him

00:23:33.120 to

00:23:33.500 the

00:23:35.500 conjectural

00:23:36.400 field

00:23:37.020 of

00:23:38.320 immortality

00:23:39.580 and

00:23:40.580 man's

00:23:41.160 place

00:23:41.960 in

00:23:42.600 the

00:23:42.780 universe

00:23:43.520 now

00:23:44.820 this

00:23:45.080 is a

00:23:45.460 master

00:23:45.860 stroke

00:23:46.420 of

00:23:46.660 the

00:23:46.820 artist

00:23:47.340 in

00:23:48.140 other

00:23:48.280 words

00:23:48.480 here's

00:23:48.760 a

00:23:48.900 story

00:23:49.300 that

00:23:49.560 is

00:23:49.720 so

00:23:49.980 deftly

00:23:50.700 and

00:23:51.460 beautifully

00:23:51.960 woven

00:23:52.600 together

00:23:53.120 the

00:23:53.760 reader

00:23:54.100 doesn't

00:23:54.640 realize

00:23:55.320 that

00:23:56.200 suddenly

00:23:56.900 there's

00:23:57.860 a

00:23:58.040 profound

00:23:58.520 philosophical

00:23:59.320 message

00:23:59.880 in this

00:24:00.320 story

00:24:00.760 it's

00:24:01.000 more

00:24:01.240 than

00:24:01.420 about

00:24:01.700 just

00:24:02.000 a

00:24:02.580 man's

00:24:02.960 getting

00:24:03.220 cold

00:24:05.280 and dying

00:24:05.840 from

00:24:06.140 freezing

00:24:06.560 to

00:24:06.820 death

00:24:07.180 but

00:24:07.980 there's

00:24:08.680 another

00:24:08.960 message

00:24:09.520 underlying

00:24:10.380 this

00:24:10.900 which

00:24:11.560 he's

00:24:11.880 just

00:24:12.180 slipped

00:24:13.020 in

00:24:13.320 there

00:24:13.620 but

00:24:13.880 he's

00:24:14.080 done

00:24:14.280 it

00:24:14.440 so

00:24:14.740 so

00:24:15.520 deftly

00:24:16.200 so

00:24:16.540 artistically

00:24:17.260 you read

00:24:18.240 right on

00:24:18.660 through

00:24:18.920 and don't

00:24:19.460 stumble

00:24:20.120 over it

00:24:20.720 it's

00:24:21.380 a

00:24:21.520 wonderful

00:24:21.900 example

00:24:23.240 of what

00:24:23.720 London

00:24:24.120 was doing

00:24:25.380 later on

00:24:26.160 I'll talk

00:24:26.600 about how

00:24:27.040 he does

00:24:27.440 that in the

00:24:27.860 call

00:24:28.100 the wild

00:24:28.620 I wanted

00:24:30.780 to bring

00:24:31.120 in

00:24:31.360 as a

00:24:32.060 factor

00:24:32.420 he mentions

00:24:33.500 that other

00:24:33.940 places too

00:24:34.800 the importance

00:24:35.920 of imagination

00:24:36.980 if you're

00:24:37.800 going to

00:24:37.980 make it up

00:24:38.460 there

00:24:38.660 and later

00:24:39.860 on when he's

00:24:40.560 talking about

00:24:41.320 survival

00:24:42.380 in Melanesia

00:24:45.380 he said

00:24:46.280 one of the

00:24:47.180 things there

00:24:47.740 to survive

00:24:48.940 whoever's

00:24:50.020 going to

00:24:50.220 make it

00:24:50.560 doesn't need

00:24:51.040 any imagination

00:24:51.700 he's just

00:24:52.380 got to be

00:24:52.980 as mean

00:24:53.960 as the

00:24:54.340 savages

00:24:54.780 around there

00:24:55.580 and resort

00:24:56.800 to stuff

00:24:57.540 as bad

00:24:59.680 as they

00:25:00.060 do

00:25:00.480 totally

00:25:01.680 different

00:25:02.180 from the

00:25:02.620 Northland

00:25:03.300 we're going

00:25:03.860 to take a

00:25:04.040 quick break

00:25:04.360 for your

00:25:04.660 words from

00:25:04.920 our sponsors

00:25:05.420 and now

00:25:07.400 back to

00:25:07.920 the show

00:25:08.340 well

00:25:09.360 so we've

00:25:09.960 got this

00:25:10.360 idea of

00:25:10.780 imagination

00:25:11.400 and going

00:25:12.200 back to

00:25:13.000 in a

00:25:13.340 far

00:25:13.540 country

00:25:14.040 I think

00:25:15.120 it's

00:25:15.240 related to

00:25:16.000 one of

00:25:16.620 the things

00:25:17.300 that seem

00:25:17.720 to be

00:25:17.980 wrong

00:25:18.320 or something

00:25:18.780 that London

00:25:19.540 talks about

00:25:20.060 not only

00:25:20.520 in a

00:25:21.380 far

00:25:21.540 country

00:25:21.880 but you

00:25:22.140 see it

00:25:22.580 in

00:25:22.860 the

00:25:23.080 call

00:25:23.260 the

00:25:23.440 wild

00:25:23.840 white

00:25:24.640 fang

00:25:25.040 London

00:25:25.880 went up

00:25:26.260 to

00:25:26.640 the

00:25:26.960 Klondike

00:25:27.420 when people

00:25:27.900 were going

00:25:28.240 up there

00:25:28.720 for the

00:25:29.380 gold rush

00:25:29.980 but in

00:25:31.460 his stories

00:25:31.840 he talks

00:25:32.300 about

00:25:32.740 one of

00:25:33.560 the problems

00:25:33.920 with the

00:25:34.220 incapables

00:25:34.820 and some

00:25:35.140 of the

00:25:35.340 other

00:25:35.580 characters

00:25:36.000 who don't

00:25:36.400 fare well

00:25:37.120 in the

00:25:37.720 Klondike

00:25:38.200 is that

00:25:39.320 they went

00:25:40.260 up there

00:25:40.680 with impure

00:25:41.460 intentions

00:25:42.000 almost

00:25:42.980 they didn't

00:25:43.240 have the

00:25:43.540 right

00:25:43.780 intention

00:25:44.300 like with

00:25:45.140 the

00:25:45.260 incapables

00:25:46.060 they went

00:25:46.960 they didn't

00:25:47.420 London

00:25:47.880 said they

00:25:48.680 had

00:25:48.980 sentimentality

00:25:49.980 about

00:25:51.040 the

00:25:51.360 Klondike

00:25:51.880 but they

00:25:52.500 didn't

00:25:52.720 have the

00:25:53.060 spirit of

00:25:53.560 true romance

00:25:54.540 and adventure

00:25:55.100 what was

00:25:56.340 the difference

00:25:56.840 in London's

00:25:57.520 mind

00:25:57.720 well in

00:25:58.160 London's

00:25:58.660 mind

00:25:58.920 I mean

00:25:59.340 sentimentality

00:26:00.640 is this

00:26:01.100 illusion

00:26:01.600 that you're

00:26:02.060 going up

00:26:02.560 having a

00:26:03.460 beautiful

00:26:04.060 what a

00:26:06.020 lovely

00:26:06.420 time out

00:26:07.780 with nature

00:26:08.440 or whatever

00:26:09.060 gonna have

00:26:10.040 gonna have

00:26:12.420 a pretty

00:26:12.700 easy time

00:26:13.400 just enjoying

00:26:14.200 the beauties

00:26:14.860 of nature

00:26:16.040 without really

00:26:17.640 understanding

00:26:18.380 the reality

00:26:19.040 of the

00:26:19.600 situation

00:26:20.280 and that's

00:26:22.140 I think

00:26:23.460 Percy

00:26:24.000 Cuffford

00:26:24.680 is the

00:26:25.900 dilettante

00:26:26.860 who thinks

00:26:27.920 that he's

00:26:28.680 just

00:26:28.940 he's read

00:26:30.320 a lot of

00:26:30.760 romantic

00:26:31.240 stuff about

00:26:32.720 the animals

00:26:33.440 etc

00:26:33.840 it's gonna

00:26:35.200 be some

00:26:35.960 kind of

00:26:36.400 wonderland

00:26:37.040 up there

00:26:37.500 winter

00:26:37.980 wonderland

00:26:38.800 which of

00:26:39.660 course is

00:26:40.060 not

00:26:40.500 and the

00:26:41.380 other with

00:26:42.060 Weatherby

00:26:43.380 Carter

00:26:43.760 Weatherby

00:26:44.600 I think

00:26:45.160 is going

00:26:46.180 just for

00:26:46.940 strictly

00:26:47.840 materialistic

00:26:49.040 gain or

00:26:50.060 whatever

00:26:50.540 thinks he's

00:26:51.500 gonna become

00:26:52.680 a millionaire

00:26:53.380 without it

00:26:54.320 having to do

00:26:55.160 too much

00:26:55.640 to achieve

00:26:56.240 that

00:26:56.580 but the

00:26:57.520 idea

00:26:58.000 of true

00:26:59.000 adventure

00:26:59.660 I'm going

00:27:00.820 back to

00:27:01.240 seeking again

00:27:02.100 you want

00:27:03.260 to go

00:27:03.780 regardless

00:27:04.840 of the

00:27:05.860 danger

00:27:06.440 and you

00:27:07.420 want to

00:27:07.800 find out

00:27:08.520 what the

00:27:08.940 new

00:27:09.160 frontiers

00:27:09.820 are like

00:27:10.460 you're

00:27:11.120 willing to

00:27:11.620 go ahead

00:27:12.220 and even

00:27:13.160 risk your

00:27:13.760 life

00:27:14.240 to

00:27:15.100 to grow

00:27:17.080 to find

00:27:17.760 find out

00:27:19.640 what your

00:27:20.000 limits might

00:27:20.680 be and

00:27:21.120 test them

00:27:21.700 find out

00:27:22.620 what nature

00:27:23.180 is really

00:27:23.580 like

00:27:24.060 speaking

00:27:25.020 realistically

00:27:25.840 and speaking

00:27:27.420 about in

00:27:27.740 the far

00:27:28.040 country

00:27:28.480 you've

00:27:29.120 written

00:27:29.260 about this

00:27:29.940 you make

00:27:30.600 the case

00:27:31.100 that the

00:27:31.660 incapables

00:27:32.380 as you

00:27:33.020 call them

00:27:33.420 london

00:27:34.300 use that

00:27:34.900 use those

00:27:35.500 characters

00:27:35.920 as a way

00:27:36.520 to explore

00:27:38.000 the seven

00:27:38.500 deadly sins

00:27:39.420 what was

00:27:42.220 going on

00:27:42.660 there so

00:27:43.020 is this

00:27:43.260 actually a

00:27:43.740 sermon

00:27:44.040 i got

00:27:47.540 something

00:27:47.960 i had

00:27:48.700 fun

00:27:49.080 with that

00:27:49.720 but

00:27:50.000 i

00:27:51.280 went

00:27:51.580 if you

00:27:52.680 give me

00:27:53.100 a minute

00:27:53.400 i'll

00:27:53.640 check it

00:27:54.180 out here

00:27:54.820 after an

00:27:55.960 overeager

00:27:56.560 show of

00:27:57.180 industrious

00:27:58.000 cooperation

00:27:58.660 they

00:28:00.340 abandoned

00:28:01.000 the

00:28:01.920 austere

00:28:02.720 discipline

00:28:03.780 of the

00:28:04.580 code

00:28:05.160 discipline

00:28:06.660 is a

00:28:07.120 key

00:28:07.440 their

00:28:08.560 spiritual

00:28:09.300 degeneration

00:28:10.280 as they

00:28:11.540 succumb

00:28:12.300 to each

00:28:14.200 of the

00:28:14.960 seven

00:28:15.300 deadly

00:28:15.840 sins

00:28:16.800 is

00:28:17.700 initially

00:28:18.360 dramatized

00:28:19.520 in their

00:28:20.580 social

00:28:21.520 relationship

00:28:22.380 first

00:28:24.140 pride

00:28:25.360 is

00:28:26.120 manifest

00:28:26.580 in a

00:28:27.180 foolish

00:28:27.520 arrogance

00:28:28.060 that

00:28:29.360 precludes

00:28:30.360 the mutual

00:28:31.080 trust

00:28:31.760 requisite to

00:28:33.060 survival

00:28:33.660 in the

00:28:34.700 wilderness

00:28:35.120 mutual

00:28:36.160 trust

00:28:36.580 also

00:28:36.980 a key

00:28:37.400 there

00:28:37.720 the

00:28:38.380 i'm

00:28:39.460 quoting

00:28:39.800 here

00:28:40.260 the

00:28:40.940 one

00:28:41.320 was a

00:28:41.760 lower

00:28:42.020 class

00:28:42.520 man

00:28:42.940 who

00:28:43.200 considered

00:28:43.660 himself

00:28:44.160 a

00:28:44.440 gentleman

00:28:44.840 and the

00:28:45.760 other

00:28:45.940 was a

00:28:46.380 gentleman

00:28:46.780 who

00:28:47.260 knew

00:28:47.880 himself

00:28:48.380 to be

00:28:48.800 such

00:28:49.320 from

00:28:50.180 this

00:28:50.620 it

00:28:51.020 may

00:28:51.280 be

00:28:51.480 remarked

00:28:52.460 that

00:28:52.660 a man

00:28:53.160 can

00:28:53.620 be a

00:28:54.660 gentleman

00:28:55.040 without

00:28:56.140 possessing

00:28:56.980 the first

00:28:57.520 instinct

00:28:58.200 of true

00:28:59.200 comradeship

00:29:00.340 next

00:29:01.880 appears

00:29:02.880 lust

00:29:03.660 as

00:29:04.780 they

00:29:05.040 consume

00:29:05.660 with

00:29:05.960 sensual

00:29:06.600 promiscuity

00:29:07.700 their

00:29:08.400 supply

00:29:08.940 of

00:29:09.280 sugar

00:29:09.720 mixing

00:29:10.700 it

00:29:11.000 with

00:29:11.200 hot

00:29:11.480 water

00:29:11.880 and

00:29:12.100 then

00:29:12.360 dissipating

00:29:13.880 quote

00:29:14.240 the rich

00:29:14.820 white

00:29:15.280 syrup

00:29:15.760 over

00:29:16.700 their

00:29:16.940 flapjacks

00:29:17.920 and

00:29:18.200 bread

00:29:18.740 crust

00:29:19.240 this

00:29:20.340 is

00:29:20.540 followed

00:29:20.860 by

00:29:21.140 sloth

00:29:21.800 as

00:29:22.580 they

00:29:22.780 sink

00:29:23.160 into

00:29:23.500 a

00:29:23.780 lethargy

00:29:24.300 that

00:29:24.540 makes

00:29:24.860 them

00:29:25.240 rebel

00:29:26.500 at the

00:29:26.880 performance

00:29:27.380 of the

00:29:27.820 smallest

00:29:28.340 chore

00:29:28.820 including

00:29:30.120 washing

00:29:30.740 and

00:29:31.520 personal

00:29:31.980 cleanliness

00:29:32.780 and for

00:29:33.860 that

00:29:34.140 matter

00:29:34.560 common

00:29:35.240 decency

00:29:36.200 accelerated

00:29:37.980 by

00:29:38.480 gluttony

00:29:39.260 their

00:29:39.980 moral

00:29:40.460 deterioration

00:29:41.520 now

00:29:41.920 begins

00:29:43.220 to

00:29:43.660 externalize

00:29:45.080 itself

00:29:45.540 in their

00:29:46.060 physical

00:29:46.980 appearance

00:29:47.800 I

00:29:48.640 afraid

00:29:48.880 they

00:29:49.080 were not

00:29:49.480 getting

00:29:49.880 their

00:29:50.160 proper

00:29:50.560 shares

00:29:51.200 in

00:29:52.100 order

00:29:52.520 that

00:29:53.460 they

00:29:53.660 may

00:29:53.840 not

00:29:54.060 be

00:29:54.280 robbed

00:29:54.860 they

00:29:55.600 fell

00:29:55.960 to

00:29:56.200 gorging

00:29:56.720 themselves

00:29:57.520 in

00:29:58.800 the

00:29:59.000 absence

00:29:59.380 of

00:29:59.660 fresh

00:29:59.960 vegetables

00:30:00.540 and

00:30:00.760 exercise

00:30:01.340 the

00:30:02.780 blood

00:30:03.160 became

00:30:03.720 impoverished

00:30:04.840 and a

00:30:05.820 loathsome

00:30:06.480 purplish

00:30:07.600 rash

00:30:08.200 crept

00:30:09.160 over

00:30:09.400 their

00:30:09.620 bodies

00:30:10.260 next

00:30:11.360 their

00:30:11.640 muscles

00:30:12.100 and

00:30:12.620 joints

00:30:13.040 began

00:30:14.100 to

00:30:14.340 swell

00:30:14.800 the

00:30:15.700 flesh

00:30:16.060 turning

00:30:16.500 black

00:30:17.040 while

00:30:18.000 their

00:30:18.220 mouths

00:30:18.740 gums

00:30:19.240 and

00:30:19.480 lips

00:30:19.920 took

00:30:20.700 on

00:30:20.940 the

00:30:21.160 color

00:30:21.640 of

00:30:21.960 rich

00:30:22.280 cream

00:30:23.240 instead

00:30:24.300 of being

00:30:24.820 drawn

00:30:25.220 together

00:30:25.680 by their

00:30:26.260 misery

00:30:26.740 each

00:30:27.820 gloated

00:30:28.460 over

00:30:29.140 the

00:30:29.340 other's

00:30:29.820 symptoms

00:30:30.300 as

00:30:31.240 the

00:30:31.440 scurvy

00:30:31.840 took

00:30:32.200 its

00:30:32.440 course

00:30:33.040 covetous

00:30:34.500 and

00:30:35.140 envy

00:30:35.460 appear

00:30:36.060 when

00:30:36.960 they

00:30:37.200 divide

00:30:37.720 their

00:30:38.060 sugar

00:30:38.860 supply

00:30:39.540 and

00:30:40.440 hide

00:30:40.780 their

00:30:41.020 shares

00:30:41.420 from

00:30:41.660 each

00:30:41.880 other

00:30:42.240 obsessed

00:30:43.620 with

00:30:43.960 the

00:30:44.160 fear

00:30:44.520 of

00:30:45.340 losing

00:30:45.860 the

00:30:46.540 precious

00:30:46.960 stuff

00:30:47.580 the

00:30:49.040 last

00:30:49.440 of the

00:30:49.800 cardinal

00:30:50.240 sins

00:30:50.760 anger

00:30:51.380 is

00:30:52.480 delayed

00:30:52.980 a while

00:30:53.480 by

00:30:53.780 another

00:30:54.160 trouble

00:30:54.680 the

00:30:55.860 fear

00:30:56.280 of the

00:30:56.740 north

00:30:57.200 and

00:30:58.320 then

00:30:58.560 finally

00:30:59.640 at

00:31:00.660 the

00:31:00.820 very

00:31:01.040 end

00:31:01.500 that's

00:31:02.300 when

00:31:02.460 they

00:31:02.620 kill

00:31:02.900 each

00:31:03.160 other

00:31:03.420 at

00:31:04.080 the

00:31:04.240 very

00:31:04.500 end

00:31:04.840 of

00:31:04.960 the

00:31:05.120 thing

00:31:05.500 that's

00:31:06.380 the

00:31:06.560 anger

00:31:07.020 so

00:31:07.900 anyhow

00:31:08.300 there's

00:31:09.060 a lot

00:31:09.380 in

00:31:09.740 between

00:31:10.100 there

00:31:10.380 but

00:31:10.620 that

00:31:11.180 gives

00:31:11.480 you

00:31:11.620 at

00:31:11.780 least

00:31:11.980 a

00:31:12.280 rough

00:31:12.540 idea

00:31:13.020 as

00:31:13.560 I was

00:31:14.180 having

00:31:14.440 some

00:31:14.880 fun

00:31:15.300 just

00:31:15.520 playing

00:31:15.840 with

00:31:16.080 that

00:31:16.360 that

00:31:16.780 story

00:31:18.460 I think

00:31:18.980 is one

00:31:19.340 of his

00:31:19.600 underrated

00:31:20.200 stories

00:31:20.980 it's

00:31:22.000 really

00:31:22.220 worth

00:31:22.600 a

00:31:23.080 it says

00:31:24.000 so much

00:31:24.600 about

00:31:24.960 the

00:31:25.620 code

00:31:25.960 and also

00:31:26.420 about

00:31:26.740 London

00:31:27.120 literary

00:31:27.640 artistry

00:31:28.420 yeah

00:31:29.040 I think

00:31:29.480 I agree

00:31:30.020 you mentioned

00:31:31.140 the call

00:31:31.720 of the

00:31:31.940 wild

00:31:32.280 and so

00:31:33.260 that's

00:31:33.600 that's

00:31:34.460 in the

00:31:34.680 news

00:31:35.060 they've

00:31:35.660 got a

00:31:35.900 new

00:31:36.040 movie

00:31:36.300 coming

00:31:36.560 out

00:31:36.900 based

00:31:37.400 off

00:31:37.640 the

00:31:37.780 call

00:31:37.940 of

00:31:38.060 the

00:31:38.140 wild

00:31:38.400 Disney

00:31:38.740 does

00:31:39.120 starring

00:31:39.800 Harrison

00:31:40.200 Ford

00:31:40.580 what

00:31:41.120 themes

00:31:41.700 does

00:31:42.800 London

00:31:43.360 talk about

00:31:44.000 in the

00:31:44.300 call

00:31:44.480 of the

00:31:44.700 wild

00:31:44.980 that

00:31:45.240 you

00:31:45.400 think

00:31:45.700 hit

00:31:46.180 on

00:31:46.360 the

00:31:46.520 idea

00:31:46.780 of

00:31:46.920 the

00:31:47.020 Northland

00:31:47.480 code

00:31:47.840 well

00:31:48.660 we're

00:31:49.320 back

00:31:49.640 again

00:31:50.000 to

00:31:50.340 adaptability

00:31:52.040 in the

00:31:53.360 call

00:31:53.600 of the

00:31:53.780 wild

00:31:54.100 I mean

00:31:55.380 that's

00:31:55.640 certainly

00:31:56.220 one reason

00:31:57.700 that

00:31:58.140 Buck

00:31:58.640 is able

00:31:59.100 to

00:31:59.460 survive

00:32:00.420 because

00:32:01.580 he

00:32:01.840 adapts

00:32:02.520 even

00:32:03.540 though

00:32:03.940 it

00:32:04.540 requires

00:32:05.060 him

00:32:05.380 to

00:32:06.180 become

00:32:07.180 something

00:32:07.720 very

00:32:08.240 different

00:32:08.660 from

00:32:08.940 what

00:32:09.160 he

00:32:09.280 was

00:32:09.620 as

00:32:10.460 the

00:32:10.840 sort

00:32:11.360 of

00:32:11.520 pet

00:32:11.800 ranch

00:32:12.680 dog

00:32:13.060 back

00:32:13.400 on

00:32:13.620 the

00:32:14.680 ranch

00:32:15.220 down

00:32:15.560 in

00:32:15.840 California

00:32:17.080 etc

00:32:17.620 the

00:32:18.740 kind

00:32:19.140 of

00:32:19.420 the

00:32:20.280 code

00:32:20.700 that

00:32:21.000 I

00:32:21.400 think

00:32:21.760 animals

00:32:23.180 live

00:32:23.520 by

00:32:23.960 is

00:32:25.180 different

00:32:25.600 from

00:32:25.960 the

00:32:26.240 Northland

00:32:26.680 code

00:32:27.060 that

00:32:27.300 men

00:32:27.640 live

00:32:27.980 by

00:32:28.400 in

00:32:28.900 some

00:32:29.200 ways

00:32:29.680 for

00:32:30.460 example

00:32:30.900 with

00:32:32.180 animals

00:32:33.320 and with

00:32:33.960 Buck

00:32:34.400 sometimes

00:32:35.140 he has

00:32:35.740 to

00:32:35.900 kill

00:32:36.180 to

00:32:36.380 survive

00:32:36.940 and

00:32:37.980 that's

00:32:38.300 not

00:32:38.580 generally

00:32:39.100 the

00:32:39.320 case

00:32:39.580 with

00:32:39.780 the

00:32:39.940 men

00:32:40.240 in

00:32:41.040 the

00:32:41.200 Northland

00:32:41.680 code

00:32:42.140 but

00:32:43.240 let's

00:32:43.700 go

00:32:43.860 back

00:32:44.220 after

00:32:44.960 he

00:32:45.200 has

00:32:46.620 the

00:32:46.860 will

00:32:47.360 to

00:32:48.280 take

00:32:49.560 over

00:32:49.880 to

00:32:50.160 take

00:32:50.420 control

00:32:50.920 of

00:32:51.120 the

00:32:51.340 team

00:32:52.340 and

00:32:52.540 what

00:32:52.760 have

00:32:53.140 you

00:32:53.340 he's

00:32:54.380 tough

00:32:54.780 he's

00:32:55.080 strong

00:32:55.580 but

00:32:56.880 he's

00:32:57.160 got

00:32:57.400 spirit

00:32:57.980 and

00:32:59.620 finally

00:33:00.460 though

00:33:01.460 it's

00:33:01.760 love

00:33:02.140 that

00:33:02.380 prevails

00:33:02.980 it's

00:33:04.020 his

00:33:04.200 love

00:33:04.480 for

00:33:04.680 John

00:33:05.020 Thornton

00:33:05.620 that

00:33:06.540 really

00:33:06.960 saves

00:33:07.640 him

00:33:07.820 at

00:33:08.000 the

00:33:08.180 end

00:33:08.640 of

00:33:09.460 course

00:33:09.720 to

00:33:10.600 become

00:33:10.980 the

00:33:11.320 supernatural

00:33:14.360 ghost

00:33:16.040 dog

00:33:16.400 of

00:33:16.540 the

00:33:16.680 North

00:33:17.020 he

00:33:17.920 has

00:33:18.160 to

00:33:18.300 even

00:33:18.560 leave

00:33:18.920 John

00:33:19.340 Thornton

00:33:19.960 and

00:33:20.740 I

00:33:20.940 want

00:33:21.420 to

00:33:21.560 talk

00:33:21.860 at

00:33:22.020 some

00:33:22.280 point

00:33:22.660 about

00:33:23.380 the

00:33:23.620 call

00:33:23.860 of

00:33:23.980 the

00:33:24.080 wild

00:33:24.460 and

00:33:25.220 the

00:33:25.380 fact

00:33:25.620 there's

00:33:25.860 so

00:33:26.040 much

00:33:26.320 more

00:33:26.660 there

00:33:26.960 than

00:33:27.180 just

00:33:27.460 a

00:33:27.620 dog

00:33:27.900 story

00:33:28.400 whenever

00:33:28.960 you're

00:33:29.340 ready

00:33:29.560 to

00:33:29.800 do

00:33:30.000 that

00:33:30.280 let's

00:33:30.640 let's

00:33:31.120 move

00:33:31.500 right

00:33:31.760 into

00:33:31.920 that

00:33:32.040 let's

00:33:32.200 talk

00:33:32.460 about

00:33:32.680 that

00:33:32.860 go

00:33:33.080 ahead

00:33:33.360 let

00:33:34.080 me

00:33:34.200 talk

00:33:34.480 a

00:33:34.620 little

00:33:34.760 bit

00:33:34.980 about

00:33:35.320 the

00:33:35.720 universal

00:33:36.820 appeal

00:33:37.440 of

00:33:37.640 this

00:33:37.880 novel

00:33:38.360 it's

00:33:39.580 been

00:33:39.800 translated

00:33:40.420 into

00:33:40.740 nearly

00:33:41.120 100

00:33:41.480 different

00:33:41.920 languages

00:33:42.360 I

00:33:42.660 think

00:33:43.020 and

00:33:44.580 it's

00:33:45.860 obviously

00:33:46.300 more than

00:33:46.960 a good

00:33:47.340 dog

00:33:47.720 story

00:33:48.180 it's

00:33:48.480 that

00:33:48.720 but

00:33:48.940 much

00:33:49.220 more

00:33:49.660 and

00:33:50.160 I

00:33:50.280 wanted

00:33:50.520 to

00:33:50.660 talk

00:33:50.940 about

00:33:51.300 the

00:33:51.520 call

00:33:51.760 of

00:33:51.880 the

00:33:51.960 wild

00:33:52.300 as

00:33:53.380 such

00:33:54.240 a

00:33:54.500 rich

00:33:54.920 work

00:33:56.380 in

00:33:56.600 terms

00:33:56.880 of

00:33:57.060 thematic

00:33:57.720 richness

00:33:58.560 and

00:33:58.880 also

00:33:59.380 literary

00:34:00.200 artistry

00:34:01.000 the

00:34:02.120 first

00:34:02.560 six

00:34:03.320 chapters

00:34:03.980 are

00:34:05.140 pretty

00:34:05.460 matter

00:34:05.840 of

00:34:06.100 fact

00:34:06.440 I

00:34:06.640 think

00:34:06.900 it

00:34:07.060 starts

00:34:07.560 the

00:34:08.060 book

00:34:08.340 starts

00:34:08.840 with

00:34:09.040 something

00:34:09.500 Buck

00:34:10.480 did

00:34:10.820 not

00:34:11.120 read

00:34:11.600 the

00:34:12.340 newspapers

00:34:13.000 that's

00:34:13.400 pretty

00:34:13.620 matter

00:34:13.980 of

00:34:14.220 fact

00:34:14.580 interesting

00:34:15.520 he

00:34:15.860 didn't

00:34:16.480 say

00:34:16.780 that

00:34:17.040 Buck

00:34:17.340 can't

00:34:17.800 read

00:34:18.120 he

00:34:18.320 just

00:34:18.520 said

00:34:18.780 Buck

00:34:19.380 did

00:34:19.620 not

00:34:19.900 read

00:34:20.200 the

00:34:20.380 newspapers

00:34:21.020 but

00:34:21.380 that's

00:34:21.720 pretty

00:34:21.940 that's

00:34:22.920 a

00:34:22.960 state

00:34:23.180 and

00:34:23.320 matter

00:34:23.580 of

00:34:23.780 fact

00:34:24.100 and

00:34:24.940 the

00:34:25.100 first

00:34:25.500 six

00:34:26.420 chapters

00:34:26.920 are

00:34:27.660 quite

00:34:28.160 realistic

00:34:28.820 and

00:34:29.860 what

00:34:30.460 have

00:34:30.760 you

00:34:30.880 but

00:34:31.100 there's

00:34:31.420 one

00:34:31.680 section

00:34:32.260 that is

00:34:33.240 outstanding

00:34:33.960 and I

00:34:35.300 want to

00:34:35.580 read

00:34:35.840 that

00:34:36.260 there's

00:34:40.960 an

00:34:41.140 ecstasy

00:34:41.720 that marks

00:34:43.100 the summit

00:34:43.660 of life

00:34:44.380 beyond

00:34:45.480 which

00:34:45.920 life

00:34:46.300 cannot

00:34:46.660 rise

00:34:47.380 such

00:34:49.120 is

00:34:49.280 the

00:34:49.440 paradox

00:34:50.060 of

00:34:50.340 living

00:34:50.700 this

00:34:51.860 ecstasy

00:34:52.500 comes

00:34:53.100 when

00:34:53.760 one

00:34:54.180 is

00:34:54.520 most

00:34:54.900 alive

00:34:55.560 and

00:34:56.680 it

00:34:56.840 comes

00:34:57.200 as

00:34:57.540 a

00:34:57.820 complete

00:34:58.460 forgetfulness

00:34:59.660 that

00:35:00.580 one

00:35:00.900 is

00:35:01.100 alive

00:35:01.680 this

00:35:02.940 ecstasy

00:35:03.640 this

00:35:04.800 forgetfulness

00:35:05.520 of

00:35:05.900 living

00:35:06.280 comes

00:35:07.740 to

00:35:07.920 the

00:35:08.100 artist

00:35:08.600 caught

00:35:09.740 up

00:35:10.040 and

00:35:10.220 out

00:35:10.420 of

00:35:10.540 himself

00:35:11.120 and

00:35:12.040 in

00:35:12.180 a

00:35:12.340 sheet

00:35:12.580 of

00:35:12.780 flame

00:35:13.340 it

00:35:14.660 comes

00:35:15.060 to

00:35:15.240 the

00:35:15.420 soldier

00:35:15.880 war

00:35:16.300 mad

00:35:16.700 on

00:35:17.360 a

00:35:17.540 stricken

00:35:17.960 field

00:35:18.980 and

00:35:19.240 refusing

00:35:19.740 quarter

00:35:20.320 it

00:35:21.220 came

00:35:21.520 to

00:35:21.740 buck

00:35:22.080 leading

00:35:23.120 the

00:35:23.380 pack

00:35:23.780 sounding

00:35:24.780 the

00:35:25.060 old

00:35:25.360 wolf

00:35:25.720 cry

00:35:26.140 straining

00:35:27.400 after

00:35:27.740 the

00:35:28.000 food

00:35:28.340 that

00:35:28.520 was

00:35:28.680 alive

00:35:29.240 that

00:35:30.620 fled

00:35:31.080 swiftly

00:35:31.560 before

00:35:31.960 him

00:35:32.320 through

00:35:32.900 the

00:35:33.120 moonlight

00:35:33.500 he

00:35:34.760 was

00:35:35.020 sounding

00:35:35.480 the

00:35:35.820 deeps

00:35:36.260 of his

00:35:36.540 nature

00:35:37.020 and the

00:35:38.260 parts

00:35:38.600 of his

00:35:38.860 nature

00:35:39.460 that

00:35:40.420 were

00:35:40.580 deeper

00:35:40.980 than

00:35:41.260 he

00:35:41.680 going

00:35:42.920 back

00:35:43.500 into

00:35:44.200 the

00:35:44.460 womb

00:35:44.840 of

00:35:45.580 time

00:35:46.300 he

00:35:47.300 was

00:35:47.560 mastered

00:35:48.040 by

00:35:48.340 the

00:35:48.560 sheer

00:35:48.940 surging

00:35:49.920 of

00:35:50.140 life

00:35:50.580 the

00:35:51.600 tidal

00:35:52.800 wave

00:35:53.200 of

00:35:53.400 being

00:35:53.820 the

00:35:54.560 perfect

00:35:55.080 joy

00:35:55.700 of

00:35:56.360 each

00:35:56.600 separate

00:35:57.180 muscle

00:35:57.620 joint

00:35:58.180 and

00:35:58.400 sinew

00:35:58.940 and

00:35:59.640 it

00:35:59.780 was

00:35:59.940 everything

00:36:00.320 that

00:36:00.620 was

00:36:00.780 not

00:36:01.080 death

00:36:01.540 it

00:36:02.360 was

00:36:02.540 a

00:36:02.720 glow

00:36:03.060 and

00:36:03.300 rampant

00:36:03.880 expressing

00:36:04.960 itself

00:36:05.480 in

00:36:05.700 movement

00:36:06.140 flying

00:36:07.300 exultantly

00:36:08.300 under

00:36:09.020 the

00:36:09.200 stars

00:36:09.880 and

00:36:10.720 over

00:36:10.920 the

00:36:11.120 face

00:36:11.460 of

00:36:11.660 dead

00:36:11.880 matter

00:36:12.300 that

00:36:12.960 did

00:36:13.220 not

00:36:13.580 move

00:36:14.120 I

00:36:15.440 think

00:36:15.720 that's

00:36:17.120 poetry

00:36:17.600 there

00:36:18.120 and

00:36:19.200 it's

00:36:19.600 interesting

00:36:19.980 that he

00:36:20.400 talks

00:36:20.800 about

00:36:21.180 that

00:36:21.540 I

00:36:22.080 quote

00:36:23.940 it

00:36:24.280 in

00:36:25.220 my

00:36:25.980 biography

00:36:26.580 in

00:36:27.520 terms

00:36:27.880 of

00:36:28.100 Jack's

00:36:28.540 own

00:36:28.860 ecstasy

00:36:31.100 in

00:36:32.160 writing

00:36:33.740 you know

00:36:34.300 I mean

00:36:35.100 he had

00:36:35.620 passion

00:36:36.740 that

00:36:37.620 I

00:36:37.860 think

00:36:38.180 enabled

00:36:40.420 him

00:36:40.760 to

00:36:41.000 write

00:36:41.480 some

00:36:41.760 of

00:36:41.880 his

00:36:42.000 best

00:36:42.300 work

00:36:42.640 there

00:36:42.980 I

00:36:43.820 think

00:36:44.040 more

00:36:44.280 than

00:36:44.520 one

00:36:45.100 writer

00:36:46.480 has

00:36:46.900 talked

00:36:47.220 about

00:36:47.560 being

00:36:47.860 a

00:36:48.060 kind

00:36:48.320 of

00:36:48.460 zone

00:36:49.040 when

00:36:49.720 you're

00:36:49.940 writing

00:36:50.400 we

00:36:51.520 had

00:36:51.760 a

00:36:51.940 visitor

00:36:52.280 on

00:36:52.680 campus

00:36:53.460 a few

00:36:53.740 years

00:36:54.080 ago

00:36:54.440 said

00:36:55.300 that

00:36:55.840 the

00:36:56.940 scientists

00:36:58.300 actually

00:36:58.840 measured

00:36:59.360 there's

00:37:00.180 an

00:37:00.300 increased

00:37:00.840 slight

00:37:01.260 increase

00:37:01.740 in

00:37:01.960 brain

00:37:02.300 temperature

00:37:02.840 when we

00:37:03.860 get

00:37:04.060 into

00:37:04.300 that

00:37:04.600 creative

00:37:05.140 zone

00:37:05.740 anyhow

00:37:06.600 let me

00:37:07.520 move

00:37:07.940 quickly

00:37:08.940 as

00:37:09.320 possible

00:37:09.860 to

00:37:11.140 the

00:37:11.420 seventh

00:37:11.940 chapter

00:37:12.900 the

00:37:13.980 sounding

00:37:14.460 of the

00:37:15.180 call

00:37:15.600 by the

00:37:17.740 way

00:37:17.900 seven

00:37:18.340 is the

00:37:18.800 most

00:37:19.060 significant

00:37:19.660 of

00:37:20.080 numbers

00:37:20.500 archetypally

00:37:21.420 speaking

00:37:22.080 signifying

00:37:23.580 the

00:37:23.920 completion

00:37:24.380 of a

00:37:24.780 cycle

00:37:25.180 and

00:37:25.460 some

00:37:26.080 other

00:37:26.320 things

00:37:26.840 and

00:37:27.860 what

00:37:28.480 has

00:37:28.720 begun

00:37:29.360 up to

00:37:30.200 this

00:37:30.460 point

00:37:30.820 very

00:37:31.540 matter

00:37:31.920 factly

00:37:32.600 note

00:37:33.660 how

00:37:34.160 the

00:37:34.420 language

00:37:35.080 changes

00:37:36.200 at the

00:37:36.680 very

00:37:36.880 beginning

00:37:37.400 of

00:37:38.300 this

00:37:38.560 seventh

00:37:39.020 chapter

00:37:39.620 when

00:37:41.380 book

00:37:41.760 earned

00:37:42.720 sixteen

00:37:43.220 hundred

00:37:43.680 dollars

00:37:44.280 in

00:37:44.660 five

00:37:45.060 minutes

00:37:45.440 for

00:37:45.700 John

00:37:46.080 Thornton

00:37:46.640 he

00:37:47.700 made

00:37:48.000 it

00:37:48.180 possible

00:37:48.620 for

00:37:48.980 his

00:37:49.160 master

00:37:49.560 to

00:37:49.840 pay

00:37:50.480 off

00:37:50.740 certain

00:37:51.260 debts

00:37:51.820 and

00:37:52.800 the

00:37:53.020 journey

00:37:53.460 with

00:37:54.200 his

00:37:54.420 partners

00:37:54.920 that's

00:37:56.300 pretty

00:37:56.500 matter

00:37:56.820 of

00:37:57.020 fact

00:37:57.280 but

00:37:57.500 note

00:37:57.760 what

00:37:57.980 happens

00:37:58.320 here

00:37:58.600 journey

00:37:59.780 into

00:38:00.200 the

00:38:00.500 east

00:38:01.100 that's

00:38:02.000 capitalized

00:38:02.600 after

00:38:03.880 a

00:38:04.200 fabled

00:38:04.840 lost

00:38:05.640 mine

00:38:06.120 the

00:38:06.880 history

00:38:07.240 of

00:38:07.500 which

00:38:07.820 was

00:38:08.520 as

00:38:08.720 old

00:38:09.140 as

00:38:09.300 the

00:38:09.460 history

00:38:09.860 of

00:38:10.060 the

00:38:10.180 country

00:38:10.640 many

00:38:11.800 men

00:38:12.120 had

00:38:12.340 sought

00:38:12.680 it

00:38:12.900 few

00:38:14.100 had

00:38:14.340 found

00:38:14.700 it

00:38:15.680 and

00:38:15.940 even

00:38:16.280 more

00:38:16.780 than

00:38:16.980 few

00:38:17.340 there

00:38:17.580 were

00:38:17.940 who

00:38:18.720 had

00:38:18.940 never

00:38:19.320 returned

00:38:20.060 from

00:38:21.100 the

00:38:21.400 quest

00:38:22.060 this

00:38:23.700 lost

00:38:24.060 mine

00:38:24.400 was

00:38:24.640 steeped

00:38:25.200 in

00:38:25.380 tragedy

00:38:26.040 and

00:38:27.480 shrouded

00:38:28.500 in

00:38:29.540 mystery

00:38:30.160 no

00:38:31.560 one

00:38:31.880 knew

00:38:32.080 the

00:38:32.340 first

00:38:32.680 man

00:38:33.140 and

00:38:34.040 the

00:38:34.180 oldest

00:38:34.460 tradition

00:38:35.080 before

00:38:35.520 he

00:38:35.740 got

00:38:35.940 anyhow

00:38:38.000 I'm

00:38:38.240 going

00:38:38.360 to

00:38:38.440 stop

00:38:38.780 and

00:38:38.940 move

00:38:39.160 down

00:38:39.460 a ways

00:38:40.000 look

00:38:40.820 at

00:38:40.940 those

00:38:41.200 keywords

00:38:42.040 like

00:38:42.480 fabled

00:38:43.700 and

00:38:44.040 tragedy

00:38:45.520 mystery

00:38:46.200 that

00:38:47.160 indicate

00:38:48.020 we're

00:38:48.340 in a

00:38:48.580 different

00:38:48.820 world

00:38:49.220 now

00:38:49.660 we're

00:38:50.200 moving

00:38:50.440 into

00:38:50.660 a

00:38:50.840 kind

00:38:51.060 of

00:38:51.400 supernatural

00:38:52.280 world

00:38:53.080 and

00:38:54.240 note

00:38:54.600 at

00:38:54.860 the

00:38:55.040 bottom

00:38:55.340 of

00:38:56.240 that

00:38:56.480 page

00:38:57.280 the

00:38:58.300 months

00:38:58.700 came

00:38:59.080 and

00:38:59.300 went

00:38:59.660 back

00:39:00.740 and

00:39:00.960 forth

00:39:01.300 they

00:39:01.520 twisted

00:39:01.940 through

00:39:02.880 the

00:39:03.120 uncharted

00:39:03.720 vastness

00:39:04.520 where

00:39:05.400 no

00:39:05.700 men

00:39:06.080 were

00:39:06.400 and

00:39:06.600 yet

00:39:06.820 where

00:39:07.100 men

00:39:07.500 had

00:39:08.160 been

00:39:08.540 if

00:39:09.200 the

00:39:09.380 lost

00:39:09.680 cabin

00:39:10.080 were

00:39:10.340 true

00:39:10.820 they

00:39:11.860 went

00:39:12.080 across

00:39:12.600 divides

00:39:13.400 in

00:39:14.140 summer

00:39:14.640 blizzards

00:39:15.460 shivered

00:39:16.700 under

00:39:16.880 the

00:39:17.100 midnight

00:39:17.440 sun

00:39:18.140 on

00:39:18.780 naked

00:39:19.140 mountains

00:39:19.840 between

00:39:20.740 the

00:39:21.040 timberline

00:39:21.820 and

00:39:22.920 eternal

00:39:23.640 snows

00:39:24.520 dropped

00:39:25.900 into

00:39:26.500 summer

00:39:28.040 valleys

00:39:28.920 amid

00:39:29.960 swarming

00:39:30.700 gnats

00:39:31.560 and

00:39:31.800 flies

00:39:32.400 and

00:39:33.280 in

00:39:33.440 the

00:39:33.640 shadows

00:39:34.080 of

00:39:34.360 glaciers

00:39:35.040 picked

00:39:35.820 strawberries

00:39:36.440 and flowers

00:39:37.200 as ripe

00:39:37.840 and fair

00:39:39.080 as any

00:39:39.460 of the

00:39:39.740 southland

00:39:40.260 could boast

00:39:40.900 in

00:39:41.980 the

00:39:42.180 fall

00:39:42.480 of the

00:39:42.760 year

00:39:43.060 they

00:39:43.780 penetrated

00:39:44.520 a weird

00:39:45.260 lake

00:39:46.060 country

00:39:46.680 sad

00:39:47.920 and

00:39:48.300 silent

00:39:49.040 where

00:39:49.880 wild

00:39:50.380 fowl

00:39:51.200 had

00:39:52.440 been

00:39:52.860 but

00:39:53.500 where

00:39:53.920 then

00:39:54.740 there

00:39:55.020 was

00:39:55.900 no

00:39:56.180 life

00:39:56.680 nor

00:39:57.600 sign

00:39:58.060 of

00:39:58.240 life

00:39:58.620 only

00:39:59.720 the

00:39:59.940 blowing

00:40:00.300 of

00:40:00.580 chill

00:40:00.920 winds

00:40:01.620 the

00:40:02.380 forming

00:40:02.780 of

00:40:03.020 ice

00:40:03.400 in

00:40:03.640 sheltered

00:40:04.360 places

00:40:05.000 and

00:40:06.160 the

00:40:06.340 melancholy

00:40:07.160 rippling

00:40:08.300 of

00:40:09.000 waves

00:40:09.620 on

00:40:10.360 lonely

00:40:10.860 beaches

00:40:11.600 that's

00:40:13.100 poetry

00:40:13.460 again

00:40:14.000 but

00:40:14.560 here's

00:40:15.200 the point

00:40:15.700 that I

00:40:16.120 wanted

00:40:17.000 to make

00:40:17.540 stop

00:40:18.960 and think

00:40:19.660 what

00:40:20.520 these

00:40:20.840 guys

00:40:21.320 have

00:40:21.520 been

00:40:21.720 through

00:40:22.100 and

00:40:23.000 what

00:40:23.240 they

00:40:23.440 must

00:40:23.740 look

00:40:24.040 like

00:40:24.500 be

00:40:25.260 interested

00:40:25.580 in

00:40:25.840 seeing

00:40:26.220 what

00:40:27.340 Harrison

00:40:28.180 Ford

00:40:28.660 and his

00:40:29.100 partners

00:40:30.060 look like

00:40:30.720 in the

00:40:31.080 movie

00:40:32.080 there

00:40:32.560 they got

00:40:33.460 to be

00:40:33.700 pretty

00:40:33.980 tough

00:40:34.380 hombres

00:40:34.800 to

00:40:35.840 survive

00:40:36.420 what

00:40:36.840 they

00:40:37.060 do

00:40:37.300 up

00:40:37.540 there

00:40:37.900 you

00:40:38.460 can

00:40:38.660 imagine

00:40:39.220 they

00:40:40.600 would

00:40:40.920 if

00:40:41.560 they

00:40:41.720 see

00:40:41.960 some

00:40:42.200 wild

00:40:42.480 strawberries

00:40:43.140 out

00:40:43.460 there

00:40:43.640 they

00:40:44.360 haven't

00:40:44.540 eaten

00:40:44.700 anything

00:40:45.120 except

00:40:45.480 probably

00:40:46.340 pemmican

00:40:47.360 or dried

00:40:48.000 beef

00:40:48.340 or something

00:40:48.820 for a

00:40:49.180 good

00:40:49.340 while

00:40:49.800 jerky

00:40:50.560 or

00:40:50.760 whatever

00:40:51.140 they

00:40:51.860 eat

00:40:52.120 some

00:40:52.340 strawberries

00:40:52.760 but

00:40:53.720 they're

00:40:54.000 picking

00:40:54.360 flowers

00:40:55.160 it

00:40:56.200 just

00:40:56.460 doesn't

00:40:56.920 fit

00:40:57.240 does

00:40:57.580 it

00:40:57.800 but

00:40:58.660 you

00:40:58.800 don't

00:40:59.060 notice

00:40:59.420 because

00:40:59.800 he's

00:41:00.120 woven

00:41:00.420 this

00:41:00.800 thing

00:41:01.520 so

00:41:02.080 well

00:41:02.640 in

00:41:03.720 terms

00:41:04.040 of

00:41:04.220 describing

00:41:04.820 you

00:41:05.260 don't

00:41:05.480 stumble

00:41:05.900 over

00:41:06.160 that

00:41:06.380 at

00:41:06.540 all

00:41:06.940 and

00:41:07.880 I'm

00:41:08.140 talking

00:41:08.320 this

00:41:08.580 an

00:41:09.260 instance

00:41:09.700 of

00:41:09.980 London's

00:41:10.700 literary

00:41:11.240 artistry

00:41:12.000 and the

00:41:12.240 way

00:41:12.440 he

00:41:13.020 weaves

00:41:13.460 these

00:41:13.720 moods

00:41:14.160 for

00:41:14.420 you

00:41:14.640 so I

00:41:15.360 just

00:41:15.580 want

00:41:15.800 to

00:41:15.920 point

00:41:16.180 that

00:41:16.380 out

00:41:16.640 in

00:41:18.340 So the

00:41:19.740 relationship

00:41:20.280 between

00:41:20.720 man

00:41:21.140 and

00:41:21.340 nature

00:41:21.640 that

00:41:21.900 Jack

00:41:22.260 experienced

00:41:22.940 in the

00:41:23.180 Klondike

00:41:23.660 was more

00:41:24.100 adversarial

00:41:24.940 but he

00:41:25.900 also

00:41:26.240 experienced

00:41:26.880 a different

00:41:27.540 relationship

00:41:28.080 between

00:41:28.460 man

00:41:28.760 and

00:41:28.880 nature

00:41:29.180 through

00:41:30.000 his

00:41:30.200 work

00:41:30.480 on his

00:41:30.800 beauty

00:41:31.060 ranch

00:41:31.500 in

00:41:31.720 Glen Ellyn

00:41:32.220 California

00:41:32.760 where he

00:41:33.780 was a

00:41:34.100 pioneer

00:41:34.440 in

00:41:34.880 organic

00:41:35.320 farming

00:41:35.700 and he

00:41:36.420 tried

00:41:36.720 to make

00:41:37.100 what was

00:41:37.480 worn out

00:41:38.020 land

00:41:38.420 fruitful

00:41:39.220 again

00:41:39.620 what books

00:41:40.720 did Jack

00:41:41.180 write about

00:41:41.700 his ranching

00:41:42.480 and farming

00:41:42.860 experience

00:41:43.560 three

00:41:44.460 novels

00:41:45.260 particularly

00:41:45.980 the first

00:41:47.360 was

00:41:47.600 Burning

00:41:48.020 Daylight

00:41:48.780 and the

00:41:50.280 second

00:41:50.600 was

00:41:51.120 Valley

00:41:51.580 of the

00:41:51.920 Moon

00:41:52.160 that's

00:41:52.540 his

00:41:52.680 longest

00:41:53.040 novel

00:41:53.580 and the

00:41:54.720 third

00:41:54.960 was

00:41:55.180 Little Lady

00:41:55.640 of the

00:41:55.860 Big

00:41:56.080 House

00:41:56.560 Burning

00:41:57.820 Daylight

00:41:58.420 I think

00:41:58.840 is

00:41:59.000 the most

00:42:00.200 neglected

00:42:00.800 novel

00:42:01.340 I like

00:42:02.060 it

00:42:02.300 as far

00:42:03.200 as I

00:42:03.540 know

00:42:03.800 Brad

00:42:04.120 it's

00:42:04.380 the only

00:42:05.000 novel

00:42:06.060 in which

00:42:06.660 the

00:42:07.080 major

00:42:08.220 character

00:42:09.020 epitomizes

00:42:10.540 all three

00:42:11.360 American

00:42:12.760 archetypal

00:42:13.500 heroes

00:42:14.200 the hero

00:42:15.280 as

00:42:15.520 frontiersman

00:42:16.520 the hero

00:42:17.600 as

00:42:18.060 businessman

00:42:19.520 the hero

00:42:20.280 as yeoman

00:42:20.880 farmer

00:42:21.440 all in

00:42:22.280 one

00:42:22.560 character

00:42:23.120 and it's

00:42:23.920 I think

00:42:25.700 it's

00:42:25.920 amusing

00:42:26.720 I'm not

00:42:27.840 saying it's

00:42:28.300 one of his

00:42:28.680 great novels

00:42:29.420 but it's

00:42:30.380 fun to read

00:42:31.300 to see

00:42:32.040 what he

00:42:32.400 does

00:42:32.780 so

00:42:33.380 in these

00:42:34.200 agrarian

00:42:34.820 stories

00:42:35.460 was there

00:42:36.980 did Jack

00:42:37.540 London develop

00:42:38.160 a code

00:42:38.680 similar to

00:42:39.400 the Northland

00:42:39.980 code

00:42:40.300 that someone

00:42:40.860 had to

00:42:41.180 live by

00:42:41.780 in order

00:42:42.520 to thrive

00:42:43.340 as a

00:42:44.180 farmer

00:42:44.500 I think

00:42:45.280 so

00:42:45.680 in other

00:42:46.160 words

00:42:46.460 in terms

00:42:47.380 of

00:42:47.740 camaraderie

00:42:48.720 decency

00:42:49.320 honesty

00:42:50.000 but

00:42:50.840 love of

00:42:51.980 land

00:42:52.300 here

00:42:52.580 has an

00:42:53.760 interesting

00:42:54.320 story

00:42:55.680 his first

00:42:56.420 story

00:42:56.920 that he

00:42:57.280 wrote

00:42:57.560 after moving

00:42:58.280 into the

00:42:58.880 Valley of

00:42:59.320 the Moon

00:42:59.780 1905

00:43:01.540 or so

00:43:02.100 all

00:43:03.140 gold

00:43:03.500 canyon

00:43:04.040 and you've

00:43:05.620 got this

00:43:06.140 character

00:43:06.840 Bill

00:43:08.280 who is

00:43:09.360 a

00:43:09.860 prospector

00:43:10.800 on some

00:43:11.960 place

00:43:12.440 like

00:43:12.880 the

00:43:13.740 ranch

00:43:14.120 down

00:43:14.500 there

00:43:14.820 prospecting

00:43:15.620 for gold

00:43:16.360 and he

00:43:17.320 finds this

00:43:18.140 big

00:43:19.340 gold

00:43:20.440 pocket

00:43:21.000 and

00:43:21.760 desecrates

00:43:22.600 the hillside

00:43:23.940 to get

00:43:24.700 the gold

00:43:25.420 and the

00:43:26.100 process

00:43:26.820 almost gets

00:43:28.180 killed by

00:43:28.920 a stranger

00:43:29.520 that's

00:43:30.120 been watched

00:43:31.120 him

00:43:31.420 until he

00:43:33.080 uncovers

00:43:34.440 the gold

00:43:35.020 and comes

00:43:35.580 up and

00:43:35.960 shoots him

00:43:36.520 fortunately

00:43:37.440 he manages

00:43:38.320 to survive

00:43:39.900 but

00:43:40.940 you've

00:43:42.060 got

00:43:42.320 something

00:43:43.380 of the

00:43:44.060 Northland

00:43:45.340 type

00:43:45.900 coming down

00:43:46.640 there

00:43:46.940 not loving

00:43:48.400 the land

00:43:49.100 you see

00:43:49.700 but desecrating

00:43:51.240 that beautiful

00:43:52.040 place

00:43:52.720 so there's a

00:43:53.680 message there

00:43:54.340 that Jack

00:43:54.940 is trying

00:43:55.440 to convey

00:43:56.100 that he's

00:43:57.260 getting

00:43:57.680 the same

00:43:58.700 attitude

00:43:59.240 in terms

00:44:00.600 of

00:44:00.880 treatment

00:44:01.820 of nature

00:44:02.600 doesn't

00:44:03.800 work

00:44:04.260 in the

00:44:05.380 pastoral

00:44:06.300 garden

00:44:07.320 or

00:44:08.300 wilderness

00:44:09.200 the way

00:44:09.720 it did

00:44:10.020 up

00:44:10.320 in the

00:44:11.160 frozen

00:44:11.880 Northland

00:44:12.720 but in

00:44:13.520 terms of

00:44:14.060 the spirit

00:44:14.720 camaraderie

00:44:15.640 decency

00:44:16.280 honesty

00:44:17.380 love of

00:44:18.620 man

00:44:19.660 and what

00:44:20.100 have you

00:44:20.680 it's

00:44:22.100 essentially

00:44:22.760 the same

00:44:23.640 incidentally

00:44:25.000 we might

00:44:25.480 mention

00:44:25.960 that

00:44:26.400 London's

00:44:27.660 attitude

00:44:28.100 toward

00:44:28.480 women

00:44:28.960 changed

00:44:29.820 significantly

00:44:31.240 after

00:44:32.280 meeting

00:44:32.700 Charmin

00:44:33.280 from

00:44:34.360 what it

00:44:35.140 was

00:44:35.420 in the

00:44:35.720 early

00:44:36.040 stuff

00:44:36.640 if you

00:44:37.340 want to

00:44:37.580 talk

00:44:37.800 about

00:44:38.040 that

00:44:38.360 at some

00:44:38.620 point

00:44:38.820 let's

00:44:39.020 talk

00:44:39.220 about

00:44:39.500 that

00:44:39.720 right

00:44:39.900 now

00:44:40.100 so

00:44:40.360 yeah

00:44:40.900 he was

00:44:41.780 married

00:44:42.020 twice

00:44:42.540 his first

00:44:43.700 wife

00:44:44.120 they separated

00:44:45.480 right

00:44:46.120 and then he

00:44:46.840 met

00:44:47.100 Charmin

00:44:47.560 tell us

00:44:48.380 about their

00:44:48.800 relationship

00:44:49.360 and how

00:44:49.700 it influenced

00:44:50.400 his writing

00:44:51.160 he

00:44:51.880 married

00:44:53.020 Bessie

00:44:53.620 Madden

00:44:54.080 for the

00:44:54.500 wrong

00:44:54.840 reasons

00:44:55.500 and has

00:44:56.640 a terrible

00:44:57.240 mistake

00:44:57.840 for everybody

00:44:58.600 and

00:44:58.860 I mean

00:44:59.880 we're still

00:45:00.420 paying

00:45:00.780 the price

00:45:01.360 in terms

00:45:01.900 of the

00:45:02.260 damage

00:45:02.720 to the

00:45:03.280 folks

00:45:03.960 to the

00:45:04.340 offspring

00:45:04.840 all that

00:45:06.840 it's so

00:45:07.540 sad

00:45:08.040 at first

00:45:09.060 neither of

00:45:09.620 them really

00:45:09.940 loved each

00:45:10.560 other

00:45:10.780 it was a

00:45:11.180 marriage

00:45:11.420 of convenience

00:45:12.000 she just

00:45:12.600 lost her

00:45:13.200 fiance

00:45:13.780 Fred Jacobs

00:45:15.680 to

00:45:17.080 I think

00:45:18.400 some kind

00:45:18.940 of ailment

00:45:19.480 when he

00:45:19.840 was on a

00:45:20.920 troop ship

00:45:21.420 going to

00:45:21.920 the Philippines

00:45:22.660 I've

00:45:23.580 forgotten

00:45:23.840 now what

00:45:24.360 he was

00:45:25.000 suffering

00:45:25.360 from

00:45:25.820 but

00:45:26.900 they'd

00:45:29.100 been

00:45:29.260 friends

00:45:29.680 for years

00:45:30.440 and he

00:45:31.340 felt

00:45:31.720 well I

00:45:32.180 need to

00:45:32.520 get married

00:45:33.020 to settle

00:45:33.460 down

00:45:33.960 and have

00:45:35.020 a good

00:45:37.080 mother for

00:45:38.340 seven

00:45:39.420 Anglo-Saxon

00:45:40.640 sons or

00:45:41.360 whatever

00:45:41.860 turned out

00:45:43.500 that Bessie

00:45:44.400 did love

00:45:47.140 him but

00:45:47.740 he never

00:45:49.020 really loved

00:45:49.800 her

00:45:50.180 they had

00:45:50.940 two daughters

00:45:51.840 meanwhile

00:45:53.280 he's having

00:45:54.160 a kind

00:45:54.600 of affair

00:45:55.260 with

00:45:56.760 Anna Strunsky

00:45:57.880 I mean

00:45:58.980 never

00:45:59.340 consummated

00:46:00.380 but

00:46:00.740 in terms

00:46:01.680 of

00:46:02.100 somebody

00:46:03.700 he could

00:46:04.220 relate to

00:46:05.060 intellectually

00:46:06.220 and personally

00:46:07.420 more closely

00:46:08.860 than he could

00:46:09.440 with Bessie

00:46:10.200 he was a

00:46:11.620 party guy

00:46:12.300 he loved

00:46:12.880 fun

00:46:13.440 and loved

00:46:14.380 crowds

00:46:15.100 and what

00:46:15.600 have you

00:46:16.140 and loved

00:46:17.100 to entertain

00:46:17.540 people

00:46:18.220 and Bessie

00:46:19.240 didn't like

00:46:19.820 that at all

00:46:20.660 so

00:46:21.800 they were

00:46:22.860 just not

00:46:23.380 compatible

00:46:24.060 and finally

00:46:25.600 I guess it

00:46:26.900 was summer

00:46:27.520 of 1903

00:46:29.340 or so

00:46:30.080 he fell in

00:46:31.360 love with

00:46:31.820 Charmian

00:46:32.400 and madly

00:46:34.020 literally

00:46:34.560 madly in

00:46:35.400 love

00:46:35.600 if you read

00:46:36.040 my biography

00:46:37.220 you'll see

00:46:37.680 some of those

00:46:38.240 early love

00:46:39.300 letters

00:46:39.740 were just

00:46:40.520 absolutely

00:46:42.180 beside

00:46:42.700 himself

00:46:43.600 he never

00:46:44.140 met a woman

00:46:44.860 quite like

00:46:45.700 that

00:46:45.940 I wish

00:46:46.760 I had

00:46:47.080 in handy

00:46:47.500 I could

00:46:47.840 describe her

00:46:48.580 she was

00:46:49.480 the new

00:46:50.040 woman

00:46:50.460 in many

00:46:50.980 ways

00:46:51.580 she was

00:46:53.400 very feminine

00:46:54.140 but at the

00:46:54.560 same time

00:46:55.880 she was

00:46:56.380 tough

00:46:56.820 she had

00:46:58.200 a will

00:46:58.620 of her own

00:46:59.300 but she

00:47:00.160 was smart

00:47:01.400 enough

00:47:01.800 to know

00:47:02.220 how to

00:47:02.540 get along

00:47:03.080 with them

00:47:03.660 and

00:47:04.740 she was

00:47:05.800 very attractive

00:47:06.800 which doesn't

00:47:07.460 come out

00:47:07.800 in her

00:47:08.020 pictures

00:47:08.440 Milo

00:47:09.360 Shepard

00:47:10.020 Jack London

00:47:11.020 was a

00:47:11.580 great nephew

00:47:12.260 knew her

00:47:13.580 very well

00:47:14.300 for many

00:47:14.820 years

00:47:15.360 and

00:47:16.600 had

00:47:17.320 tremendous

00:47:17.900 admiration

00:47:18.580 for her

00:47:19.360 he said

00:47:20.300 even when

00:47:20.820 she was

00:47:21.260 in her

00:47:21.620 60s

00:47:22.340 she could

00:47:23.200 turn men's

00:47:23.940 heads

00:47:24.200 when she

00:47:24.600 walked

00:47:24.940 into a

00:47:25.440 room

00:47:25.820 so

00:47:26.700 charming

00:47:27.240 was

00:47:27.480 something

00:47:27.780 special

00:47:28.360 and

00:47:29.240 that

00:47:30.040 is from

00:47:30.600 her

00:47:30.980 that he

00:47:31.540 evolved

00:47:32.480 the idea

00:47:33.220 of the

00:47:33.540 mate

00:47:33.800 woman

00:47:34.220 not just

00:47:35.560 in any

00:47:37.000 kind of

00:47:37.800 animalistic

00:47:38.940 sense

00:47:39.360 or whatever

00:47:39.880 but a

00:47:40.680 true mate

00:47:41.300 in terms

00:47:41.940 of an

00:47:42.680 equal

00:47:43.020 in many

00:47:43.820 risks

00:47:44.240 in many

00:47:45.000 respects

00:47:45.700 and

00:47:46.840 loved

00:47:47.620 her

00:47:47.880 until

00:47:48.180 the day

00:47:48.640 he died

00:47:49.300 and she

00:47:50.520 loved him

00:47:51.100 of course

00:47:51.780 and to tell you

00:47:52.900 speak of being

00:47:53.800 attractive

00:47:54.420 Houdini

00:47:55.520 had an affair

00:47:57.900 with her

00:47:58.380 after his

00:47:59.300 death

00:47:59.680 wanted to

00:48:00.160 marry her

00:48:00.800 but she

00:48:01.840 didn't want

00:48:02.300 to marry

00:48:02.660 Houdini

00:48:03.240 in fact

00:48:04.280 she didn't

00:48:05.040 want to

00:48:05.720 marry anybody

00:48:06.460 after Jack

00:48:07.380 I guess

00:48:08.040 yeah

00:48:08.900 this idea

00:48:09.480 of

00:48:09.680 mate

00:48:09.880 woman

00:48:10.180 like

00:48:10.420 they

00:48:10.540 called

00:48:10.800 each

00:48:11.000 other

00:48:11.200 mate

00:48:11.540 and

00:48:12.280 how

00:48:12.960 do

00:48:13.100 you

00:48:13.200 see

00:48:13.360 this

00:48:13.540 idea

00:48:13.840 of

00:48:14.140 the

00:48:14.720 mate

00:48:14.940 woman

00:48:15.280 does it

00:48:16.340 come up

00:48:16.860 in

00:48:17.100 London's

00:48:18.020 literature

00:48:18.580 and his

00:48:19.000 stories

00:48:19.280 yeah

00:48:19.640 it comes

00:48:20.780 up

00:48:21.260 let's

00:48:22.800 say

00:48:23.140 I think

00:48:24.160 in

00:48:24.460 burning

00:48:25.020 daylight

00:48:25.760 certainly

00:48:27.100 in one

00:48:28.140 sense

00:48:28.600 it comes

00:48:29.220 up

00:48:29.560 in

00:48:29.920 the

00:48:31.140 seawolf

00:48:32.220 with

00:48:33.120 Maud

00:48:33.480 Brewster

00:48:34.060 as his

00:48:35.540 mate

00:48:36.020 so

00:48:36.980 Maud

00:48:37.800 I think

00:48:39.060 may be

00:48:39.500 the first

00:48:40.100 character

00:48:40.760 in his

00:48:41.180 novels

00:48:41.680 based on

00:48:42.960 Charmian

00:48:43.660 so it's

00:48:44.880 certainly

00:48:45.200 there

00:48:45.780 and

00:48:46.780 at some

00:48:47.660 point

00:48:48.060 by the way

00:48:48.860 you mentioned

00:48:49.500 London's

00:48:50.280 concept

00:48:51.300 of masculinity

00:48:52.240 yeah

00:48:53.180 I think

00:48:54.220 that's

00:48:54.500 very important

00:48:55.340 there's

00:48:55.800 there's a

00:48:56.620 section

00:48:56.880 I'd like

00:48:57.260 to read

00:48:57.660 about that

00:48:58.180 pretty soon

00:48:58.800 but

00:48:59.040 let me

00:48:59.800 mention

00:49:00.340 characters

00:49:01.760 that

00:49:02.300 exemplify

00:49:03.600 masculinity

00:49:04.940 John

00:49:06.600 Thornton

00:49:07.180 of course

00:49:07.840 in the

00:49:08.880 call

00:49:09.140 a while

00:49:09.760 Whedon

00:49:10.860 Scott

00:49:11.380 in

00:49:12.020 White

00:49:12.420 Fang

00:49:12.920 and I

00:49:14.360 think

00:49:14.720 even

00:49:15.400 Humphrey

00:49:15.860 Van

00:49:16.200 Whedon

00:49:16.780 in

00:49:17.900 the

00:49:18.920 seawolf

00:49:19.600 it's

00:49:20.060 fascinating

00:49:20.720 particularly

00:49:21.640 in the

00:49:21.980 seawolf

00:49:22.480 because

00:49:22.920 Humphrey

00:49:23.700 is a

00:49:24.060 work in

00:49:24.560 progress

00:49:25.180 he comes

00:49:26.160 on board

00:49:26.840 the wolf

00:49:27.480 excuse me

00:49:28.280 wolf

00:49:28.640 larsenship

00:49:29.420 ghost

00:49:30.040 as a

00:49:31.000 kind of

00:49:31.360 neuter

00:49:31.740 a sissy

00:49:32.740 and

00:49:33.900 Larson

00:49:34.660 makes a

00:49:35.260 man out

00:49:35.960 of him

00:49:36.420 Larson

00:49:37.360 is too

00:49:37.740 much

00:49:38.060 of a

00:49:38.320 man

00:49:38.540 he's

00:49:38.820 there's

00:49:39.380 a section

00:49:39.960 in

00:49:40.360 the seawolf

00:49:41.780 where

00:49:42.100 Humphrey

00:49:43.200 is talking

00:49:43.700 about

00:49:44.020 these guys

00:49:44.860 they need

00:49:45.960 a little

00:49:46.380 influence

00:49:47.400 women

00:49:47.920 there

00:49:48.380 it's

00:49:48.700 their world

00:49:49.900 is

00:49:50.180 is warped

00:49:51.460 in a

00:49:52.060 sense

00:49:52.480 so

00:49:53.460 here is

00:49:54.420 Wolf

00:49:54.740 Larson

00:49:55.180 making

00:49:56.440 a man

00:49:57.540 in a

00:49:57.860 sense

00:49:58.140 giving

00:49:58.480 Humphrey

00:49:59.700 that

00:50:00.000 masculinity

00:50:00.760 but

00:50:01.780 he

00:50:01.940 needs

00:50:02.300 something

00:50:02.760 else

00:50:03.360 he

00:50:04.000 needs

00:50:04.260 that

00:50:04.500 feminine

00:50:04.960 touch

00:50:05.600 and

00:50:06.160 that's

00:50:06.480 where

00:50:06.780 Maude

00:50:07.940 Brewster

00:50:08.960 comes in

00:50:09.700 to make

00:50:10.460 him the

00:50:10.840 complete

00:50:11.380 man

00:50:12.140 and

00:50:13.100 there's

00:50:13.360 a section

00:50:13.900 even in

00:50:14.600 to the

00:50:15.300 man on

00:50:15.780 trail

00:50:16.240 I want

00:50:16.940 to read

00:50:17.360 to you

00:50:17.740 when we

00:50:18.060 get a

00:50:18.360 chance

00:50:18.800 shall I

00:50:19.720 do that

00:50:20.020 now

00:50:20.320 let's

00:50:20.620 do that

00:50:20.880 let's

00:50:21.000 talk

00:50:21.120 about

00:50:21.300 that

00:50:21.600 let's

00:50:21.880 do

00:50:22.000 that

00:50:22.260 all right

00:50:23.020 I'm back

00:50:23.460 to a

00:50:23.800 very early

00:50:24.440 story

00:50:25.120 the first

00:50:26.040 story

00:50:26.400 published

00:50:26.960 in the

00:50:27.580 Overland

00:50:28.340 Monthly

00:50:28.940 to the

00:50:29.880 man

00:50:30.220 on

00:50:30.580 trail

00:50:31.080 by the

00:50:32.200 way

00:50:32.420 Malamute

00:50:33.100 kid

00:50:33.520 who's

00:50:33.840 the

00:50:33.980 kind

00:50:34.200 of

00:50:34.300 high

00:50:34.520 priest

00:50:34.940 of

00:50:35.120 the

00:50:35.260 Northland

00:50:35.760 code

00:50:36.280 is

00:50:36.960 another

00:50:37.240 example

00:50:37.860 of

00:50:38.760 the

00:50:39.180 true

00:50:40.320 man

00:50:40.700 or

00:50:40.840 whatever

00:50:41.160 and

00:50:41.880 in

00:50:42.060 this

00:50:42.300 story

00:50:42.800 he's

00:50:43.960 sort

00:50:44.220 of

00:50:44.380 our

00:50:44.740 he's

00:50:45.680 a

00:50:45.800 character

00:50:46.080 we

00:50:46.320 see

00:50:46.760 the

00:50:47.260 events

00:50:47.600 on

00:50:47.880 through

00:50:48.500 whose

00:50:48.840 eyes

00:50:49.140 we see

00:50:49.560 the

00:50:49.760 events

00:50:50.100 unfold

00:50:50.800 areas

00:50:52.860 the

00:50:53.440 talk

00:50:53.980 soon

00:50:55.440 became

00:50:55.860 impersonal

00:50:57.080 harking

00:50:57.580 back

00:50:57.880 to the

00:50:58.240 trails

00:50:58.660 of

00:50:58.940 childhood

00:50:59.540 as

00:51:01.340 the

00:51:01.560 younger

00:51:02.040 a

00:51:02.500 young

00:51:02.740 stranger

00:51:03.420 ate

00:51:04.360 of

00:51:04.540 the

00:51:04.720 rude

00:51:05.000 fair

00:51:05.500 by the

00:51:07.180 way

00:51:07.300 this

00:51:07.520 is

00:51:07.620 a

00:51:07.740 man

00:51:07.980 named

00:51:08.240 Jack

00:51:08.600 Westendale

00:51:09.380 who's

00:51:09.740 just

00:51:09.980 come

00:51:10.820 in

00:51:11.040 as

00:51:11.420 a

00:51:11.560 man

00:51:11.860 on

00:51:12.480 trail

00:51:12.900 to

00:51:13.440 join

00:51:13.740 the

00:51:13.940 group

00:51:14.240 incidentally

00:51:15.020 this

00:51:15.220 is

00:51:15.320 a

00:51:15.440 Christmas

00:51:15.780 party

00:51:16.200 that's

00:51:16.500 going

00:51:16.740 on

00:51:17.040 in

00:51:17.200 this

00:51:17.420 story

00:51:17.840 interesting

00:51:18.360 Christmas

00:51:19.160 party

00:51:19.720 Malibu

00:51:22.100 kid

00:51:22.580 attentively

00:51:23.980 attentively

00:51:24.920 studied

00:51:25.480 his

00:51:25.960 face

00:51:26.600 nor

00:51:28.060 was he

00:51:28.580 long

00:51:28.960 in

00:51:29.140 deciding

00:51:29.700 that

00:51:30.100 it

00:51:30.600 was

00:51:30.820 fair

00:51:31.440 honest

00:51:32.760 and

00:51:33.380 open

00:51:33.960 that

00:51:34.940 he

00:51:35.100 liked

00:51:35.500 it

00:51:35.780 still

00:51:37.020 youthful

00:51:37.700 the

00:51:38.660 lines

00:51:39.100 had

00:51:39.240 been

00:51:39.400 firmly

00:51:39.820 traced

00:51:40.500 by

00:51:41.300 toil

00:51:41.840 and

00:51:42.480 hardship

00:51:43.220 though

00:51:44.560 genial

00:51:45.100 in

00:51:45.460 conversation

00:51:46.300 and

00:51:47.460 mild

00:51:48.000 when

00:51:48.300 at

00:51:48.480 rest

00:51:49.020 the

00:51:50.200 blue

00:51:50.500 eyes

00:51:51.060 gave

00:51:51.380 promise

00:51:52.060 the

00:51:53.460 hard

00:51:54.020 steel

00:51:55.780 glitter

00:51:56.640 that

00:51:58.160 comes

00:51:58.700 when

00:51:59.880 called

00:52:00.500 into

00:52:00.860 action

00:52:01.500 especially

00:52:02.660 against

00:52:03.700 odds

00:52:04.500 the

00:52:05.820 heavy

00:52:06.120 jaw

00:52:06.580 and

00:52:06.840 square

00:52:07.440 cut

00:52:08.140 chin

00:52:08.640 demonstrated

00:52:09.980 rugged

00:52:11.720 pertinacity

00:52:13.040 and

00:52:13.920 indomitability

00:52:15.060 nor

00:52:16.000 though

00:52:16.360 the

00:52:16.620 attributes

00:52:17.320 of the

00:52:17.720 lion

00:52:18.160 were

00:52:18.480 there

00:52:18.920 was

00:52:19.800 there

00:52:20.080 wanting

00:52:20.720 a

00:52:21.640 certain

00:52:22.060 softness

00:52:23.060 the

00:52:24.180 hint

00:52:24.580 of

00:52:24.900 womanliness

00:52:25.640 which

00:52:28.040 bespoke

00:52:28.700 the

00:52:29.260 emotional

00:52:29.820 nature

00:52:30.420 so there

00:52:31.500 you've

00:52:31.880 got the

00:52:32.440 qualities

00:52:33.520 of both

00:52:34.460 sexes

00:52:35.760 in a

00:52:36.120 sense

00:52:36.540 both

00:52:37.160 accepted

00:52:38.400 qualities

00:52:39.080 of

00:52:39.380 masculinity

00:52:39.980 and

00:52:40.880 femininity

00:52:41.540 and one

00:52:42.600 character

00:52:43.160 without

00:52:44.020 having

00:52:44.880 the

00:52:45.080 kind

00:52:45.400 of

00:52:45.600 problem

00:52:46.620 that

00:52:46.860 you've

00:52:47.020 got

00:52:47.240 with

00:52:47.600 wolf

00:52:48.500 larsen

00:52:49.020 who

00:52:49.260 dies

00:52:49.880 I think

00:52:50.920 symbolically

00:52:52.060 as well

00:52:53.000 as literally

00:52:53.540 in the

00:52:54.020 sea

00:52:54.240 wolf

00:52:54.600 also

00:52:55.880 there's

00:52:56.480 a

00:52:56.780 section

00:52:57.440 that

00:52:58.660 Arnold

00:52:59.140 Genthe

00:52:59.540 talks

00:53:00.000 about

00:53:00.240 this

00:53:00.680 is

00:53:00.920 a

00:53:01.120 comment

00:53:02.080 by

00:53:02.660 famous

00:53:03.180 poetry

00:53:03.580 artist

00:53:04.060 Arnold

00:53:04.780 Genthe

00:53:05.360 described

00:53:06.740 London

00:53:07.440 as I say

00:53:08.840 most

00:53:09.200 accurately

00:53:09.760 quote

00:53:10.880 Jack

00:53:12.360 London

00:53:12.840 had a

00:53:14.100 poignantly

00:53:14.800 sensitive

00:53:15.960 face

00:53:16.720 his

00:53:17.340 were the

00:53:17.780 eyes

00:53:18.280 of a

00:53:18.820 dreamer

00:53:19.380 and there

00:53:20.280 was an

00:53:20.580 almost

00:53:21.100 feminine

00:53:22.200 wistfulness

00:53:23.440 about him

00:53:25.000 and yet

00:53:26.640 at the

00:53:27.020 same time

00:53:27.900 he gave

00:53:29.120 the feeling

00:53:29.800 of a

00:53:30.780 terrible

00:53:31.420 and

00:53:32.620 uncomfortable

00:53:33.580 physical

00:53:34.940 force

00:53:35.760 so I

00:53:37.480 think that

00:53:37.900 pretty well

00:53:38.580 describes

00:53:39.860 London

00:53:40.280 and his

00:53:41.080 idea of

00:53:41.780 the

00:53:41.980 masculinity

00:53:43.040 as well

00:53:44.020 well this

00:53:44.980 idea of

00:53:45.580 needing

00:53:45.940 masculine

00:53:46.600 and feminine

00:53:47.440 energies

00:53:47.940 combined

00:53:48.460 this sounds

00:53:49.220 like

00:53:49.440 Jung

00:53:49.760 the

00:53:50.280 psychologist

00:53:50.920 Carl

00:53:51.360 Jung

00:53:51.640 and you

00:53:52.220 talk about

00:53:52.760 this in

00:53:53.100 your

00:53:53.220 biography

00:53:53.620 that at

00:53:54.540 the end

00:53:54.640 of his

00:53:54.880 career

00:53:55.260 at the

00:53:55.920 end

00:53:56.020 of his

00:53:56.260 life

00:53:56.620 that's

00:53:57.060 when

00:53:57.220 London

00:53:57.640 discovered

00:53:58.660 Jung

00:53:58.940 in his

00:53:59.200 writings

00:53:59.580 and it

00:54:00.480 started to

00:54:00.820 give more

00:54:01.460 of an

00:54:01.680 esoteric

00:54:02.380 bent to

00:54:02.760 Jack's

00:54:03.080 thinking

00:54:03.360 whereas

00:54:03.700 formerly

00:54:04.460 he was

00:54:04.880 romantic

00:54:05.360 but he

00:54:05.960 was also

00:54:06.380 a

00:54:06.680 materialist

00:54:07.460 and you

00:54:08.240 make the

00:54:08.520 case that

00:54:08.940 we were

00:54:09.400 on the

00:54:09.740 cusp

00:54:10.160 of some

00:54:10.800 of

00:54:10.960 London's

00:54:11.340 greatest

00:54:11.640 work

00:54:12.080 with this

00:54:12.480 discovery

00:54:12.920 of

00:54:13.440 Jung

00:54:13.780 but you

00:54:14.980 also make

00:54:15.360 the case

00:54:15.720 that even

00:54:16.220 before

00:54:16.600 even in the

00:54:17.560 Klondike stories

00:54:18.320 you see

00:54:19.000 Jungian ideas

00:54:20.080 pop up

00:54:20.700 can you talk

00:54:21.960 can you talk

00:54:21.980 about Jung's

00:54:22.840 influence

00:54:23.260 on London's

00:54:24.020 work

00:54:24.340 and thought

00:54:24.880 it's

00:54:25.720 fascinating

00:54:26.140 to me

00:54:26.620 Brett

00:54:26.920 because

00:54:27.460 he's

00:54:28.740 got what

00:54:29.600 Jung

00:54:30.200 calls

00:54:30.780 the

00:54:31.480 primordial

00:54:32.240 vision

00:54:32.760 and the

00:54:33.780 stuff I

00:54:34.200 just read

00:54:34.860 for example

00:54:35.900 from the

00:54:36.840 Call of the

00:54:37.320 Wild

00:54:37.720 indicates

00:54:39.220 his sense

00:54:40.540 of being

00:54:41.440 tuned in

00:54:42.140 to myth

00:54:43.680 and what

00:54:44.420 have you

00:54:45.000 myth and

00:54:46.060 archetypes

00:54:46.840 without being

00:54:47.640 conscious of

00:54:48.380 it in fact

00:54:48.920 early reviewers

00:54:50.620 saw some

00:54:51.360 stuff in

00:54:52.020 the Call of the

00:54:52.980 Wild

00:54:53.300 that was

00:54:54.520 more than

00:54:55.320 just a

00:54:55.740 dog story

00:54:56.600 and he

00:54:58.140 said

00:54:58.420 well I

00:54:59.340 wasn't aware

00:54:59.960 of it

00:55:00.440 I didn't

00:55:01.080 intend it

00:55:01.820 but obviously

00:55:03.620 it was

00:55:04.100 there

00:55:04.480 and that's

00:55:05.220 the nature

00:55:05.720 of the

00:55:06.160 primordial

00:55:06.820 vision

00:55:07.380 when it's

00:55:09.000 at work

00:55:09.460 the writer

00:55:10.320 feels it

00:55:11.120 and writes

00:55:12.720 it

00:55:12.940 creates it

00:55:13.760 without being

00:55:14.740 fully aware

00:55:15.640 much of his

00:55:16.920 richest work

00:55:17.920 is informed

00:55:19.900 by what

00:55:21.980 Jung would

00:55:23.060 call archetypes

00:55:24.260 and myth

00:55:24.900 and what

00:55:25.240 have you

00:55:25.720 but what

00:55:26.560 happened

00:55:27.060 just a few

00:55:28.160 months before

00:55:28.780 he died

00:55:29.560 and he

00:55:30.280 got a

00:55:30.660 copy of

00:55:31.380 Beatrice

00:55:32.300 Hengel's

00:55:32.860 brand new

00:55:33.560 revision

00:55:34.920 or excuse

00:55:36.340 me not

00:55:36.840 revision

00:55:37.340 translation

00:55:38.200 of Jung's

00:55:39.940 theories

00:55:40.420 and he

00:55:41.760 started reading

00:55:42.780 that

00:55:43.300 and came

00:55:44.760 to his

00:55:45.220 wife

00:55:46.040 charm

00:55:46.440 and says

00:55:46.720 I'm

00:55:46.980 standing on

00:55:47.520 the edge

00:55:47.900 of a world

00:55:48.360 so new

00:55:49.280 and wonderful

00:55:49.900 and terrible

00:55:50.440 I'm almost

00:55:51.020 afraid look

00:55:51.660 over into

00:55:52.260 it

00:55:52.660 but that's

00:55:53.980 what he'd

00:55:54.340 been doing

00:55:54.800 all those

00:55:55.380 years

00:55:55.780 and of course

00:55:56.200 he did

00:55:56.620 look over

00:55:57.080 into it

00:55:57.760 and the

00:55:58.440 last few

00:55:58.980 stories

00:55:59.500 he wrote

00:56:00.120 he was

00:56:01.020 deliberately

00:56:01.980 employing

00:56:03.360 Jungian

00:56:03.800 theory

00:56:04.200 and of course

00:56:04.660 the final

00:56:05.240 story

00:56:05.760 the water

00:56:06.620 baby

00:56:07.020 which I

00:56:07.540 could quote

00:56:08.000 from in a

00:56:08.960 moment here

00:56:09.540 is obviously

00:56:10.800 Jungian

00:56:11.540 but one of

00:56:13.020 his richest

00:56:13.820 stories

00:56:14.620 the red

00:56:15.600 one

00:56:15.920 and I

00:56:18.180 thought

00:56:18.540 originally

00:56:19.180 since he

00:56:20.780 had written

00:56:21.240 that in

00:56:21.880 I think

00:56:22.840 May

00:56:23.480 1916

00:56:25.540 that was

00:56:26.860 the first

00:56:27.360 story he

00:56:28.060 wrote

00:56:28.440 after

00:56:28.920 discovering

00:56:30.240 Jung

00:56:30.880 because

00:56:31.700 there's

00:56:32.320 so much

00:56:32.900 there

00:56:33.320 that is

00:56:34.040 archetypal

00:56:34.960 and mythical

00:56:35.660 and is a

00:56:36.760 story I

00:56:37.260 recommend to

00:56:38.080 everybody

00:56:38.700 it's the

00:56:39.800 same motif

00:56:40.820 that

00:56:41.240 Kubrick

00:56:42.340 used in

00:56:43.300 2001

00:56:44.460 based on

00:56:45.760 Arthur C.

00:56:46.360 Clark's

00:56:46.860 story

00:56:47.180 The Sentinel

00:56:47.840 of course

00:56:49.360 Clark

00:56:49.960 co-wrote

00:56:51.200 2001

00:56:52.420 I think

00:56:53.080 with Kubrick

00:56:54.040 and one

00:56:55.100 of my

00:56:55.360 students

00:56:55.880 after reading

00:56:57.600 The Sentinel

00:56:58.160 in my

00:56:59.860 science fiction

00:57:00.540 class wrote

00:57:01.300 to Clark

00:57:02.640 and got

00:57:03.820 an answer

00:57:04.440 Mr. Clark

00:57:05.700 had you read

00:57:06.420 Jack London's

00:57:07.360 The Red

00:57:07.980 One and

00:57:08.380 Clark

00:57:08.720 actually answered

00:57:09.500 and said

00:57:09.860 no but I

00:57:10.740 wish I had

00:57:11.480 you know

00:57:12.060 because the

00:57:12.860 similarities

00:57:13.480 anyhow

00:57:14.780 I recommend

00:57:16.120 the story

00:57:17.120 for a number

00:57:18.200 of reasons

00:57:18.920 but I found

00:57:20.060 out that

00:57:20.960 London had

00:57:22.520 not read

00:57:23.420 Jung at

00:57:24.520 that time

00:57:25.100 so there's

00:57:26.380 the primordial

00:57:27.140 vision again

00:57:28.020 but it turns

00:57:29.160 out that

00:57:29.980 those

00:57:31.000 half dozen

00:57:32.620 I think

00:57:33.100 five or six

00:57:33.760 stories he

00:57:34.380 read based

00:57:35.300 on Jung

00:57:35.900 finally with

00:57:37.000 The Water

00:57:37.400 Baby

00:57:37.820 are clearly

00:57:39.460 based on

00:57:40.720 Jungian theory

00:57:41.540 and as far

00:57:42.080 as I know

00:57:42.600 London's the

00:57:43.520 first one

00:57:44.020 to do that

00:57:44.740 well let's

00:57:45.340 talk you said

00:57:45.800 you want to

00:57:46.140 read something

00:57:46.520 from The Water

00:57:47.080 Baby to give

00:57:47.660 us an idea

00:57:48.240 of this

00:57:49.080 want to go

00:57:49.500 ahead and do

00:57:49.780 that

00:57:50.000 it's a totally

00:57:51.360 different

00:57:51.680 have you read

00:57:52.380 it

00:57:52.500 I have not

00:57:53.040 no

00:57:53.320 it's a totally

00:57:54.380 different story

00:57:55.480 we're talking

00:57:56.800 now about

00:57:57.380 The Water

00:57:57.860 Baby

00:57:58.260 which is the

00:57:59.800 last story

00:58:00.660 Jack wrote

00:58:01.720 before he

00:58:02.400 died

00:58:02.860 it was

00:58:03.580 written just

00:58:04.440 a few months

00:58:05.200 I think

00:58:06.040 maybe a little

00:58:07.060 more than a

00:58:07.600 month before

00:58:08.160 his death

00:58:08.920 and

00:58:10.320 it's totally

00:58:11.840 different from

00:58:12.520 the other

00:58:13.020 earlier stuff

00:58:14.580 in that there's

00:58:15.200 almost no

00:58:16.020 action

00:58:16.580 mostly it's

00:58:17.800 dialogue

00:58:18.380 between

00:58:19.720 two men

00:58:21.080 a young

00:58:22.280 fellow named

00:58:23.320 John

00:58:24.440 Lacana

00:58:25.360 and that's

00:58:26.940 Jack London's

00:58:28.160 Hawaiian name

00:58:29.700 and an old

00:58:32.480 man named

00:58:33.460 Kohukumu

00:58:34.360 and that's

00:58:36.380 the Hawaiian

00:58:37.020 for voice of

00:58:39.020 wisdom or

00:58:39.860 old man of

00:58:42.860 wisdom or

00:58:43.460 what have you

00:58:44.200 and the

00:58:47.020 young man

00:58:47.800 is they're

00:58:48.460 sitting out

00:58:49.120 in a boat

00:58:50.840 offshore

00:58:52.460 talking

00:58:53.820 and the

00:58:55.480 young man

00:58:56.120 has got a

00:58:56.860 headache

00:58:57.500 and not

00:58:59.000 feeling too

00:58:59.700 well

00:59:00.160 the old

00:59:01.840 native is

00:59:02.720 in great

00:59:03.700 shape

00:59:04.220 he's 70

00:59:04.920 something years

00:59:05.680 old

00:59:06.140 been

00:59:07.280 evidently

00:59:08.940 drinking

00:59:09.500 at a big

00:59:10.700 party the

00:59:11.260 night before

00:59:12.000 racing hell

00:59:12.900 and having

00:59:14.180 a good

00:59:14.520 time

00:59:14.920 he's feeling

00:59:15.520 great

00:59:15.960 in fact

00:59:16.360 at one

00:59:16.760 point

00:59:17.220 dives down

00:59:18.760 about 40

00:59:19.500 more feet

00:59:20.220 and brings

00:59:22.320 up an

00:59:22.800 octopus that

00:59:23.720 he's been

00:59:24.860 fishing for

00:59:25.640 there

00:59:26.100 but they're

00:59:27.420 having a

00:59:27.900 dialogue

00:59:28.440 and the

00:59:30.220 young man

00:59:30.840 represents

00:59:31.660 the rational

00:59:33.280 western

00:59:34.540 approach

00:59:35.900 civilized

00:59:37.280 approach

00:59:37.860 what have

00:59:38.860 you

00:59:38.980 logic and

00:59:39.760 what have

00:59:40.280 you

00:59:40.460 the old

00:59:41.720 man is

00:59:42.300 talking

00:59:42.720 in terms

00:59:43.840 of myth

00:59:44.580 and what

00:59:46.240 have

00:59:46.580 you

00:59:46.840 and

00:59:48.040 here's a

00:59:49.320 key passage

00:59:50.240 a couple

00:59:51.320 of key

00:59:51.700 passages

00:59:52.200 so let

00:59:53.580 me explain

00:59:54.340 to you

00:59:54.660 the secret

00:59:55.220 of my

00:59:55.640 birth

00:59:56.120 the sea

00:59:57.840 is my

00:59:59.000 mother

00:59:59.440 I was

01:00:00.780 born in

01:00:01.380 a double

01:00:01.700 canoe

01:00:02.100 during a

01:00:02.740 Kona

01:00:03.020 gale

01:00:03.580 in the

01:00:04.700 channel of

01:00:05.300 Kohurai

01:00:06.080 from her

01:00:07.760 the sea

01:00:08.380 my mother

01:00:09.020 I receive

01:00:09.700 my strength

01:00:10.600 whenever I

01:00:12.440 return to

01:00:13.000 her arms

01:00:13.600 as for

01:00:14.800 a breast

01:00:15.480 clasp

01:00:16.360 as I

01:00:17.340 have

01:00:17.560 returned

01:00:18.000 today

01:00:18.440 I grow

01:00:19.520 strong

01:00:20.160 and immediately

01:00:21.760 I grow

01:00:23.520 strong again

01:00:24.380 and immediately

01:00:25.120 she to me

01:00:27.220 is the

01:00:27.700 milk

01:00:28.220 the giver

01:00:28.740 of the

01:00:29.020 life

01:00:29.260 swords

01:00:29.800 and

01:00:32.000 here's

01:00:33.140 the

01:00:33.300 young

01:00:33.700 guy

01:00:34.000 says

01:00:34.280 well

01:00:34.520 that's

01:00:34.780 a

01:00:35.240 queer

01:00:35.620 religion

01:00:36.160 you

01:00:36.440 got

01:00:36.800 there

01:00:37.220 and

01:00:38.300 the

01:00:38.520 old

01:00:38.720 man

01:00:38.920 says

01:00:39.200 when I

01:00:39.580 was

01:00:39.780 younger

01:00:40.160 I

01:00:40.440 muddled

01:00:40.800 my

01:00:41.060 poor

01:00:41.380 head

01:00:41.660 over

01:00:41.920 queer

01:00:42.400 religions

01:00:43.680 but

01:00:44.920 listen

01:00:45.280 oh

01:00:45.560 young

01:00:45.940 wise

01:00:46.440 one

01:00:46.780 to

01:00:47.740 my

01:00:48.020 elderly

01:00:48.540 wisdom

01:00:49.520 this

01:00:50.960 I

01:00:51.200 know

01:00:51.600 as

01:00:52.680 I

01:00:52.880 grow

01:00:53.160 old

01:00:53.700 I

01:00:54.540 seek

01:00:55.020 less

01:00:55.340 for

01:00:55.580 the

01:00:55.780 truth

01:00:56.200 from

01:00:56.900 without

01:00:57.380 me

01:00:57.780 and

01:00:59.060 more

01:00:59.560 of

01:01:00.220 the

01:01:00.400 truth

01:01:00.860 from

01:01:02.100 within

01:01:02.500 me

01:01:02.900 why

01:01:04.560 have

01:01:05.460 I

01:01:05.640 thought

01:01:05.940 this

01:01:06.220 thought

01:01:06.540 of

01:01:06.660 my

01:01:06.800 return

01:01:07.300 to

01:01:07.500 my

01:01:07.700 mother

01:01:08.060 my

01:01:08.860 rebirth

01:01:09.480 from

01:01:09.720 my

01:01:09.940 mother

01:01:10.280 into

01:01:11.000 the

01:01:11.260 son

01:01:11.640 you

01:01:12.460 do

01:01:12.680 not

01:01:12.920 know

01:01:13.240 I

01:01:13.480 do

01:01:13.620 not

01:01:13.820 know

01:01:14.100 say

01:01:14.420 that

01:01:14.680 without

01:01:15.620 whisper

01:01:16.140 of

01:01:16.380 man's

01:01:16.800 voice

01:01:17.180 or

01:01:17.360 printed

01:01:17.660 word

01:01:18.180 without

01:01:19.200 prompting

01:01:19.880 from

01:01:20.140 other

01:01:20.440 where

01:01:20.780 this

01:01:21.680 thought

01:01:22.080 has

01:01:22.340 arisen

01:01:22.840 from

01:01:23.660 within

01:01:24.040 me

01:01:24.460 from

01:01:25.340 the

01:01:25.620 deeps

01:01:26.080 of

01:01:26.220 me

01:01:26.560 that

01:01:27.540 are

01:01:27.740 as

01:01:27.960 deep

01:01:28.300 as

01:01:28.500 the

01:01:28.700 sea

01:01:29.120 I

01:01:30.360 am

01:01:30.540 not

01:01:30.760 a

01:01:30.920 god

01:01:31.320 I

01:01:31.740 do

01:01:31.900 not

01:01:32.140 make

01:01:32.460 things

01:01:33.020 therefore

01:01:34.200 I

01:01:34.580 have

01:01:34.680 not

01:01:34.900 made

01:01:35.200 this

01:01:35.500 thought

01:01:35.880 I

01:01:37.240 do

01:01:37.380 not

01:01:37.580 know

01:01:37.820 its

01:01:38.040 father

01:01:38.380 its

01:01:38.640 mother

01:01:39.000 it

01:01:39.880 is

01:01:40.120 of

01:01:40.380 old

01:01:40.740 time

01:01:41.160 before

01:01:41.560 me

01:01:41.920 and

01:01:43.000 therefore

01:01:43.480 it

01:01:44.660 is

01:01:44.880 true

01:01:45.380 man

01:01:46.780 does

01:01:47.040 not

01:01:47.260 make

01:01:47.540 truth

01:01:48.080 man

01:01:48.940 if

01:01:49.180 he

01:01:49.400 be

01:01:50.160 not

01:01:50.440 blind

01:01:50.980 only

01:01:51.860 recognizes

01:01:52.760 truth

01:01:54.060 when he

01:01:54.460 sees

01:01:54.840 it

01:01:55.080 there

01:01:56.560 there's

01:01:56.680 much

01:01:56.960 more

01:01:57.280 in

01:01:57.840 dreams

01:01:58.320 than

01:01:58.520 we

01:01:58.680 know

01:01:59.060 dreams

01:02:00.360 go

01:02:00.660 deep

01:02:01.140 all

01:02:02.260 the

01:02:02.420 way

01:02:02.600 down

01:02:03.180 maybe

01:02:04.860 to

01:02:05.820 before

01:02:06.580 the

01:02:07.320 beginning

01:02:07.780 right

01:02:08.620 that's

01:02:09.140 you

01:02:09.360 so we've

01:02:10.380 talked

01:02:10.580 about

01:02:10.940 different

01:02:12.140 things

01:02:12.500 that

01:02:12.720 Jack

01:02:13.080 London

01:02:13.300 hit on

01:02:14.160 during

01:02:14.360 his

01:02:14.560 career

01:02:14.840 we

01:02:15.060 talked

01:02:15.360 about

01:02:15.740 his

01:02:16.600 Northland

01:02:17.120 code

01:02:17.600 this idea

01:02:18.240 of

01:02:18.380 adaptability

01:02:19.200 of

01:02:20.540 true

01:02:21.040 comradeship

01:02:22.040 of

01:02:22.880 imagination

01:02:23.980 we've

01:02:24.580 talked

01:02:24.780 about

01:02:25.160 his

01:02:25.840 themes

01:02:26.140 of

01:02:26.520 agrarian

01:02:27.400 writing

01:02:27.780 and working

01:02:28.320 with

01:02:28.680 nature

01:02:29.120 we

01:02:30.460 talked

01:02:30.620 about

01:02:30.720 this

01:02:30.840 idea

01:02:31.060 of

01:02:31.240 love

01:02:31.740 love

01:02:32.500 that

01:02:32.680 runs

01:02:32.940 throughout

01:02:33.240 his

01:02:33.420 stories

01:02:33.780 what

01:02:34.860 do

01:02:34.960 you

01:02:35.060 think

01:02:35.240 like

01:02:35.400 after

01:02:35.680 when

01:02:36.000 you

01:02:36.140 taught

01:02:36.540 you

01:02:37.160 know

01:02:37.300 seminars

01:02:37.700 on

01:02:37.920 Jack

01:02:38.160 London

01:02:38.460 what

01:02:39.580 did

01:02:39.760 you

01:02:39.940 hope

01:02:40.360 your

01:02:40.800 students

01:02:41.380 would

01:02:41.560 walk

01:02:41.840 away

01:02:42.140 with

01:02:42.540 some

01:02:44.080 big

01:02:44.360 ideas

01:02:45.020 that

01:02:46.060 would

01:02:46.220 change

01:02:46.620 their

01:02:46.820 life

01:02:47.220 and

01:02:47.360 they

01:02:47.500 would

01:02:47.640 maybe

01:02:47.900 think

01:02:48.360 differently

01:02:48.880 because

01:02:49.400 they

01:02:49.760 read

01:02:50.160 these

01:02:51.300 Jack

01:02:51.580 London

01:02:51.840 stories

01:02:52.380 I

01:02:54.240 think

01:02:54.580 maybe

01:02:55.040 a

01:02:55.280 sense

01:02:55.540 of

01:02:55.700 adventure

01:02:56.300 in

01:02:57.500 other

01:02:57.740 words

01:02:58.000 moving

01:02:58.460 out

01:02:58.820 seeking

01:02:59.760 or

01:03:00.060 what

01:03:00.280 have

01:03:00.580 you

01:03:00.860 not

01:03:01.740 and

01:03:02.040 by

01:03:02.340 the

01:03:02.440 way

01:03:02.720 not

01:03:03.240 just

01:03:03.640 physically

01:03:04.680 but

01:03:05.000 intellectually

01:03:05.660 seeking

01:03:06.460 that

01:03:07.140 there's

01:03:07.400 so

01:03:07.580 much

01:03:07.920 out

01:03:08.300 there

01:03:08.500 to

01:03:08.680 be

01:03:08.920 enjoyed

01:03:09.460 if

01:03:10.140 we'll

01:03:10.380 just

01:03:10.640 look

01:03:10.960 for

01:03:11.280 it

01:03:11.560 and

01:03:12.120 open

01:03:12.400 our

01:03:12.660 minds

01:03:13.060 to

01:03:13.360 it

01:03:13.680 and

01:03:14.560 that

01:03:14.740 there's

01:03:15.140 a

01:03:15.500 world

01:03:16.260 of

01:03:16.460 possibility

01:03:17.020 in

01:03:17.500 terms

01:03:17.860 of

01:03:18.100 relationships

01:03:19.240 that we

01:03:20.580 are maybe

01:03:21.100 overlooking

01:03:21.840 because of

01:03:22.600 the various

01:03:23.700 problems we've got

01:03:24.840 socially now

01:03:25.960 we could go into

01:03:27.300 what's going on

01:03:28.720 in our

01:03:29.120 currently

01:03:30.120 restrictive

01:03:31.160 society

01:03:32.440 or what have you

01:03:33.440 but

01:03:34.200 the sense of

01:03:35.160 openness

01:03:35.660 and

01:03:36.820 simply enjoy

01:03:38.320 life

01:03:38.980 while we can

01:03:40.260 there's so much

01:03:41.060 there

01:03:41.500 in which

01:03:42.360 Jack was still

01:03:43.280 seeking at the

01:03:44.140 very end

01:03:44.960 there's so

01:03:46.000 much

01:03:46.220 life

01:03:46.600 has to

01:03:47.040 offer

01:03:47.420 if we

01:03:48.320 just

01:03:48.620 open

01:03:48.940 our

01:03:49.180 eyes

01:03:49.520 to it

01:03:50.040 and

01:03:50.600 get out

01:03:51.100 and

01:03:51.400 experience

01:03:52.340 it

01:03:52.840 I think

01:03:54.100 a sense

01:03:55.280 of

01:03:55.440 excitement

01:03:56.100 a sense

01:03:57.500 of

01:03:58.100 love

01:04:00.100 of our

01:04:00.800 fellow

01:04:01.080 human

01:04:01.900 beings

01:04:02.440 and

01:04:03.200 maybe

01:04:03.760 not just

01:04:04.960 human

01:04:05.300 beings

01:04:05.720 but also

01:04:06.360 the animals

01:04:07.020 because

01:04:07.460 Jack

01:04:08.240 absolutely

01:04:08.740 loved

01:04:09.180 animals

01:04:09.720 as well

01:04:10.200 as

01:04:10.420 people

01:04:11.220 you know

01:04:11.840 especially

01:04:12.880 horses

01:04:13.320 and

01:04:13.620 dogs

01:04:14.220 those

01:04:15.260 are

01:04:15.400 things

01:04:15.720 I

01:04:15.940 think

01:04:16.360 they

01:04:17.000 may

01:04:17.320 have

01:04:17.740 found

01:04:18.820 also

01:04:20.400 a

01:04:21.820 general

01:04:22.260 sense

01:04:23.620 of

01:04:24.000 excitement

01:04:25.600 that

01:04:26.660 they

01:04:26.920 may have

01:04:27.240 missed

01:04:28.460 in

01:04:28.800 their

01:04:30.000 daily

01:04:30.380 lives

01:04:31.000 or

01:04:31.180 whatever

01:04:31.600 and

01:04:32.620 how

01:04:33.020 has

01:04:33.180 Jack

01:04:33.440 London

01:04:33.700 changed

01:04:34.100 your

01:04:34.320 life

01:04:34.740 I

01:04:36.820 mean

01:04:36.920 you've

01:04:37.140 spent

01:04:37.440 how

01:04:38.460 many

01:04:38.660 decades

01:04:39.320 well

01:04:41.340 I

01:04:41.560 think

01:04:41.800 he's

01:04:42.060 done

01:04:42.280 a lot

01:04:42.580 for

01:04:42.800 me

01:04:43.060 in

01:04:43.240 terms

01:04:43.580 of

01:04:43.760 relationships

01:04:44.460 it's

01:04:45.000 amazing

01:04:45.480 that

01:04:46.220 the

01:04:46.580 places

01:04:48.180 I've

01:04:48.640 been

01:04:49.000 and

01:04:50.160 people

01:04:51.020 I've

01:04:51.380 met

01:04:51.660 and

01:04:51.880 the

01:04:52.440 number

01:04:52.720 of

01:04:52.920 people

01:04:53.220 out

01:04:53.540 there

01:04:53.820 who

01:04:54.100 are

01:04:54.800 absolutely

01:04:55.440 taken

01:04:56.740 with

01:04:57.060 Jack

01:04:57.420 London

01:04:57.760 for one

01:04:58.380 reason

01:04:58.740 or another

01:04:59.280 most of

01:05:00.340 what we've

01:05:00.840 been

01:05:00.980 discussing

01:05:01.480 today

01:05:02.100 that

01:05:03.080 there's

01:05:03.680 a sense

01:05:04.220 of

01:05:04.420 openness

01:05:04.920 there

01:05:05.560 to

01:05:06.400 London

01:05:07.480 that

01:05:08.380 you

01:05:08.520 may

01:05:08.740 not

01:05:09.000 find

01:05:09.440 in

01:05:09.600 other

01:05:09.880 authors

01:05:10.360 there's

01:05:10.700 so

01:05:10.880 many

01:05:11.180 different

01:05:11.680 possibilities

01:05:13.080 for

01:05:13.440 living

01:05:13.860 if you

01:05:14.660 just

01:05:14.960 open

01:05:15.300 yourself

01:05:15.700 up

01:05:16.040 to

01:05:16.300 them

01:05:16.660 fantastic

01:05:17.620 well

01:05:17.880 Earl

01:05:18.180 this

01:05:18.940 has

01:05:19.060 been

01:05:19.200 a

01:05:19.420 fantastic

01:05:20.100 conversation

01:05:20.780 thanks

01:05:21.100 so much

01:05:21.360 for

01:05:21.480 having

01:05:21.660 us

01:05:21.820 here

01:05:21.960 down

01:05:22.220 in

01:05:22.360 Shreveport

01:05:22.880 it's

01:05:23.740 been

01:05:23.920 my

01:05:24.180 pleasure

01:05:24.560 thank

01:05:25.000 you

01:05:25.120 so

01:05:25.380 much

01:05:25.880 my

01:05:26.740 guest

01:05:26.900 day

01:05:27.000 was

01:05:27.160 Earl

01:05:27.500 Labour

01:05:27.760 he's

01:05:28.100 a

01:05:28.220 preeminent

01:05:28.600 Jack

01:05:28.920 London

01:05:29.100 scholar

01:05:29.500 also

01:05:29.980 the

01:05:30.180 author

01:05:30.460 of

01:05:30.640 the

01:05:30.780 landmark

01:05:31.240 Jack

01:05:31.600 London

01:05:31.820 biography

01:05:32.340 Jack

01:05:32.760 London

01:05:33.100 and

01:05:33.260 American

01:05:33.580 Life

01:05:33.980 Earl

01:05:34.240 also

01:05:34.680 wrote

01:05:35.100 the

01:05:35.260 foreword

01:05:35.560 to

01:05:35.700 the

01:05:35.840 re-release

01:05:36.400 from

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01:05:37.740 White Fang

01:05:38.260 Call the

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01:05:41.980 just look up

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01:06:26.140 that

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01:06:26.900 you

01:06:27.100 please

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01:06:28.720 friend

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01:06:29.620 you

01:06:29.820 think

01:06:30.120 will

01:06:30.220 get

01:06:30.320 something

01:06:30.520 out

01:06:30.740 of

01:06:30.860 it

01:06:30.980 as

01:06:31.240 always

01:06:31.500 thank

01:06:31.760 you

01:06:31.840 for

01:06:31.960 the

01:06:32.080 continued

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01:06:32.780 until

01:06:33.100 next

01:06:33.300 time

01:06:33.460 this

01:06:33.560 is

01:06:33.620 Brett

01:06:33.780 McKay

01:06:34.140 reminding

01:06:34.760 you

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01:06:35.620 podcast

01:06:35.960 but

01:06:36.420 put

01:06:36.660 what

01:06:36.940 you've

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The Art of Manliness - September 26, 2022

Jack London's Literary Code [Rebroadcast]

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