The Art of Manliness - July 31, 2025


Jack London's Literary Code [Rebroadcast]


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Summary

In this episode, Dr. Earl Labor, who died on September 15th at the age of 94, was the world s foremost authority on one of the Art of Manliness' guiding inspirations and lights, Jack London. Earl dedicated his career to London scholarship, and his work was pivotal in turning London s literature into a subject of serious study.


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00:00:00.840 My guest in this episode, Dr. Earl Labor, died on September 15th at the age of 94.
00:00:06.280 Earl was the world's foremost authority on one of the art of manliness' guiding inspirations and lights, Jack London.
00:00:12.060 Earl dedicated his career to London scholarship, and his work was pivotal in turning London's literature into a subject of serious study.
00:00:18.900 Earl taught the very first undergraduate and graduate courses devoted to London, and penned 100 articles and 10 books about him.
00:00:25.000 Earl not only admired London's devotion to what the author called the true spirit of romance and adventure,
00:00:30.220 he sought that spirit in his own life.
00:00:32.300 As an undergraduate, Earl started the first weightlifting course at Southern Methodist University,
00:00:36.320 and he coached and lifted the SMU team to victory in the 1948 Dallas Open Championships.
00:00:41.620 After college, he and a buddy took an epic road trip, where they did farm work and entered boxing matches to work their way from Texas to Canada.
00:00:48.120 And he served in the U.S. Navy and spent time on a destroyer.
00:00:51.100 I had the privilege of interviewing Earl three times for the AOM podcast.
00:00:54.420 The last time, in January 2020, my son and I drove to Earl's home in Shreveport, Louisiana, to speak with him in person.
00:01:01.100 To mark Earl's passing, please enjoy this re-podcast of that conversation.
00:01:04.980 Brett McKay here, and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast.
00:01:16.280 The literature of Jack London has long been given the short shrift by scholars.
00:01:19.880 They say he wrote some good dog stories for boys, but beyond that, didn't showcase any literary genius or high-level craftsmanship.
00:01:25.820 Well, my guest today begs to differ with this assessment.
00:01:28.380 His name is Earl Labor.
00:01:29.120 He's the preeminent Jack London scholar and 91 years young.
00:01:32.340 I've had Earl on the podcast two previous times.
00:01:34.400 The first to discuss his landmark Jack London biography.
00:01:36.880 That's episode number 67.
00:01:38.360 And the second to discuss his own memoir, The Far Music.
00:01:40.720 And that's episode number 370.
00:01:42.320 For this episode, I drove down to Earl's home in Shreveport, Louisiana,
00:01:45.680 to talk to Earl about the overlooked literary genius of Jack London
00:01:48.660 and the big themes that London wrote about in his novels and short stories.
00:01:52.100 We begin our discussion with Earl's story of how he became a Jack London scholar
00:01:55.040 and why London's work was historically neglected by academics.
00:01:57.860 We then dig into London's literary themes by first discussing how he used the Klondike
00:02:02.000 as a symbolic proving ground for men and how success in this wilderness
00:02:05.180 depended on one's ability to mold oneself to Jack's Northland code.
00:02:09.440 Earl uses excerpts from my favorite London story in A Far Country,
00:02:12.640 as well as To Build a Fire in the Call of the Wild,
00:02:14.920 to showcase the tenets of this code, as well as London's literary artistry.
00:02:18.620 Earl then explains how London shifted his themes later in his career with his agrarian writing,
00:02:23.000 how his wife Charmian changed his perception of real women and his female characters,
00:02:26.480 and the influence psychologist Carl Jung had on London's last works.
00:02:30.300 Consider this episode a masterclass on the literature of Jack London.
00:02:33.540 After it's over, check out our show notes at awim.is slash London.
00:02:46.120 All right, Earl Labor, welcome back to the show.
00:02:49.860 Thanks, Brett. It's great to be here again.
00:02:52.000 So we had you on, I'm going to say five years ago, six years ago, to talk about your Jack London biography.
00:02:58.780 Then we had you on again to talk about your memoir, The Far Music, which I know a lot of our listeners enjoyed.
00:03:05.960 This time, I've made a trip down to Shreveport, Louisiana.
00:03:10.080 Come shake your hand because I wanted to meet you after all these years.
00:03:12.620 And then to talk more about Jack London, particularly about the literary themes of Jack London,
00:03:18.600 because that's what you spent your career writing about, researching about, lecturing about,
00:03:24.300 was Jack London and his literature.
00:03:27.440 So I think the first question I'd like to start off with is,
00:03:30.000 how did you get started, or how did you become a Jack London scholar?
00:03:33.460 I'm going back to 1948, Brett.
00:03:39.560 A professor at SMU named George Bond taught a course in the American novel.
00:03:49.980 And among the novels he chose, not only Hemingway and Faulkner and Fitzgerald,
00:03:56.920 he chose an obscure novel by Jack London titled Martin Eden.
00:04:02.700 My best friend, P.B. Lindsay, a combat veteran from the Second World War,
00:04:11.040 a couple of years older, but much older in many ways,
00:04:14.580 took that course and told me,
00:04:16.980 Earl, Martin Eden is a very powerful novel.
00:04:21.400 You need to read it.
00:04:22.920 At that time, I had some other interests, mostly extra literary.
00:04:27.440 But four years later, I'm on a weekend pass to New York City
00:04:33.720 from the Recruit Training Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.
00:04:39.060 Downtown Manhattan, just strolling around, looking at the sites,
00:04:43.620 walked into this newsstand and saw a 25-cent Penguin paperback of Martin Eden.
00:04:53.120 Well, my friend had recommended it.
00:04:57.400 I thought I'd look at it.
00:04:59.400 I took it down and bought it, put it in my hip pocket to take back to the bus.
00:05:05.460 I started reading it on the bus back to the base.
00:05:09.200 Could not put it down, Brett.
00:05:11.720 I stayed up all night.
00:05:13.880 I wasn't up exactly.
00:05:15.360 I stayed in my bunk with my flashlight on.
00:05:18.660 I was so fascinated with that novel.
00:05:22.440 And I said, when I go back to get a Ph.D.,
00:05:26.760 Jack London is going to be my subject.
00:05:29.600 And that was the beginning of my serious study.
00:05:33.520 And that was a while before I got to that
00:05:35.620 because I had some other obligations at the time
00:05:39.720 to Uncle Sam in the military, training recruits at that base in Maryland.
00:05:49.060 Also, I spent some time on a USS AO destroyer.
00:05:54.800 But when I got out of the Navy, I had a family, a wife and a child.
00:05:59.340 And I didn't have a job.
00:06:00.620 So I went to work for Hager Company in Dallas.
00:06:05.300 Men's Slacks was really lucky in terms of that was an up-and-growing company.
00:06:11.760 But I found that the intellectual challenge of men's pants
00:06:16.680 were a bit thin after about six weeks.
00:06:20.060 I was doing okay from their point of view,
00:06:22.260 but I wanted to get back into teaching.
00:06:24.840 So the same professor, George Bond,
00:06:28.440 called me one Saturday morning in early 1955
00:06:34.620 and said, Earl, there's a little college,
00:06:38.900 liberal arts college over in Shreveport looking for an instructor.
00:06:43.240 If you're interested in getting back into teaching,
00:06:46.320 I'll recommend you.
00:06:47.960 Three weeks later, I was teaching at Centenary College
00:06:53.220 and have been teaching on and off at Centenary ever since then
00:06:57.840 until my retirement a few years ago.
00:07:00.400 Took off a few years for various things.
00:07:03.320 I may have mentioned in some of my early work,
00:07:06.040 such as a Fulbright lectureship in Denmark for a year, etc., etc.
00:07:12.220 But mainly, I've been teaching and working on Jack London ever since.
00:07:18.400 So for your PhD,
00:07:20.060 you did the first major study on Jack London as a true literary artist,
00:07:24.300 and you were really breaking new ground
00:07:26.080 because for a long time,
00:07:27.920 the literary establishment didn't take London's work seriously,
00:07:30.780 and very few scholars had studied his craftsmanship.
00:07:34.620 Why was that?
00:07:35.920 And what's the status of London today in literature,
00:07:38.300 particularly in terms of scholarship?
00:07:40.200 Well, it's on the rise for sure,
00:07:42.880 as been for the past generation or so.
00:07:46.080 It's amazing to see what's happened
00:07:47.940 in the last couple of decades.
00:07:50.540 But for a long time,
00:07:52.760 he was dismissed as a little more, as I say,
00:07:55.820 than a hack writer for adventure stories and what have you.
00:08:01.800 Fortunately, there have been a number of breakthroughs
00:08:04.940 just in the last two or three decades.
00:08:07.780 Actually, to be honest, Brett,
00:08:09.880 I think over the past half century or so,
00:08:13.420 I have a lecture that I give sometimes
00:08:16.560 on the politics of literary reputation,
00:08:19.860 and I explained to my students,
00:08:21.740 I said, look, the books you read,
00:08:25.120 the ones you read in high school
00:08:26.580 and many that you read in college
00:08:28.680 were not handed down to Moses on that tablet
00:08:31.980 that they're selected by a certain group,
00:08:36.180 and those are the so-called elite.
00:08:39.740 They decide what you're going to read.
00:08:41.580 They decide, for example,
00:08:42.700 you're going to read Shakespeare
00:08:44.200 and maybe Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter,
00:08:47.200 which is fine,
00:08:48.620 but they should be also assigning
00:08:51.220 Jack London's The Seawolf or something
00:08:53.900 in addition to Call of the Wild.
00:08:57.020 Anyhow, London was not a part of the group
00:09:02.920 that makes those decisions.
00:09:06.220 Now, you ask, for one thing,
00:09:08.800 London was a Western writer,
00:09:11.180 and they were not part of the Eastern establishment
00:09:14.880 that pretty well dictated
00:09:17.560 the literary selections or whatever
00:09:22.420 at the time in the 19th and even 20th century.
00:09:27.220 Eric Miles Williamson uses the term
00:09:29.820 the Ivy Mafia.
00:09:32.500 That may not be quite fair,
00:09:34.080 but I think it's kind of fun.
00:09:36.100 Anyhow, the idea that it's those Easterners
00:09:39.740 back in the 19th century,
00:09:42.740 even early 20th century,
00:09:45.020 centered around Boston, New York.
00:09:48.480 William Dean Howells was the leader
00:09:51.820 of that group for a generation.
00:09:54.940 Interesting that he encouraged writers
00:09:58.000 like Amalyn Garland, Stephen Crane,
00:10:01.200 even Emily Dickinson.
00:10:02.100 And here is London at the time,
00:10:05.880 the most popular of all of them,
00:10:09.160 and virtually ignored by William Dean Howells.
00:10:13.240 Now, that's got to have been deliberate, I think.
00:10:16.920 So all of that ties into what I call
00:10:20.840 the politics of literary reputation,
00:10:23.960 which has impeded the recognition of Jack
00:10:27.280 for a number of years.
00:10:28.400 But finally, we're getting that recognition
00:10:31.520 as a result of what's been done
00:10:33.820 over the past 50 years
00:10:35.720 and certainly the last generation.
00:10:38.040 My own student, Jeanne Campbell,
00:10:40.100 has become Jeanne Campbell Reisman,
00:10:42.500 started the Jack London Society
00:10:44.540 in about 1990 or so.
00:10:50.440 And Ken Brandt is currently
00:10:53.540 the executive director of that.
00:10:57.880 And just in the last few years,
00:11:01.100 the Modern Language Association
00:11:03.000 has published a collection of essays
00:11:08.740 on London called Teaching Jack London
00:11:13.440 that's been edited by Ken Brandt
00:11:16.080 and Jeanne Reisman,
00:11:17.300 has over 20 essays by different scholars.
00:11:19.960 Even more recently,
00:11:22.540 the Oxford University Press
00:11:24.220 has published a handbook of Jack London
00:11:27.560 edited by Jay Williams
00:11:29.580 that has more than 30 essays
00:11:32.420 by different scholars in there,
00:11:34.280 which says something about
00:11:35.740 what's happening to Jack London
00:11:37.580 and his status during the last decade or two.
00:11:42.640 So yeah, he's on the rise.
00:11:43.800 Let's talk about some of the themes
00:11:45.860 that Jack London wrote about
00:11:47.780 during his career.
00:11:48.900 And we'll get into detail
00:11:50.740 about some of these things.
00:11:52.040 But before we do that,
00:11:53.820 could you give us
00:11:54.820 just a big picture overview
00:11:56.260 of sort of an outline
00:11:58.320 of the themes that he wrote about
00:11:59.960 both in his fiction
00:12:00.960 and in his nonfiction?
00:12:02.920 I'm looking here,
00:12:04.440 and I'll simplify this in a minute.
00:12:07.200 I was just looking at my introduction
00:12:09.340 to the portable.
00:12:11.560 Thematically,
00:12:13.080 London's works move
00:12:15.360 from the foolishness of pride
00:12:17.280 ruthlessness of greed,
00:12:20.000 blindness of racial prejudice,
00:12:23.200 and the senselessness of war
00:12:25.120 to the indomitability of the human spirit,
00:12:29.400 the unfailing salvation
00:12:31.180 of true comradeship,
00:12:34.280 and the ageless wisdom
00:12:36.040 of the great mother and the water baby.
00:12:38.860 I could talk later
00:12:40.740 about the great mother archetype
00:12:43.960 and the water baby,
00:12:45.480 which is London's last story,
00:12:47.120 which is very revealing.
00:12:48.500 But in more general terms,
00:12:51.600 I like to say
00:12:52.840 that one of the overriding themes
00:12:56.520 is love.
00:12:57.920 Love of adventure,
00:13:00.100 love of life,
00:13:01.780 love of humanity,
00:13:03.900 love of nature,
00:13:04.840 love of man for woman,
00:13:08.280 comradeship,
00:13:10.220 camaraderie,
00:13:11.620 love of seeking,
00:13:13.940 and what have you.
00:13:15.560 It's a kind of passion
00:13:18.000 that he has.
00:13:19.660 And my biography,
00:13:21.320 I've talked about
00:13:21.940 the seeking drive,
00:13:23.240 for example,
00:13:24.620 that London had
00:13:26.100 in extreme measure
00:13:28.540 that the neuroscientists
00:13:31.560 have discovered
00:13:32.300 a generation ago
00:13:33.860 is that basic drive
00:13:35.780 along with fear and hunger,
00:13:38.360 sex and the rest of it,
00:13:40.140 that leads mammals
00:13:41.360 to seek new adventures
00:13:44.180 even at the expense of food
00:13:46.840 and ferrets sometimes.
00:13:50.920 Anyhow,
00:13:51.680 it's fascinating to see this at work.
00:13:54.800 I'm trying to think
00:13:55.320 of other things.
00:13:57.120 Of course,
00:13:57.960 the hatred of anything
00:13:59.000 that was restricting
00:14:00.300 that deprived human beings
00:14:03.640 of their essential humanity
00:14:06.120 and liberty
00:14:07.280 or what have you,
00:14:08.880 those seem to be themes
00:14:11.020 that run throughout his work.
00:14:13.180 One thing that he,
00:14:15.100 I think it was a common theme
00:14:16.220 throughout all of his work
00:14:17.300 is this idea of man versus nature
00:14:19.320 and nature being
00:14:21.500 sort of a proving ground
00:14:23.040 for men.
00:14:24.960 And I think you've written about this
00:14:26.300 that as nature,
00:14:27.460 there's like four types
00:14:28.400 of environments
00:14:29.540 that London wrote about
00:14:31.900 where you see this motif
00:14:33.460 of man versus nature.
00:14:34.640 Can you talk a bit about that?
00:14:35.860 Are you talking about
00:14:36.660 symbolic wilderness?
00:14:38.200 Symbolic wilderness.
00:14:39.340 Yeah.
00:14:40.060 I'm going back now
00:14:41.120 about, what,
00:14:42.240 50 more years.
00:14:44.660 And a Texas scholar,
00:14:47.540 University of Texas scholar
00:14:48.720 named Gordon Mills
00:14:49.900 published a very fine article
00:14:52.160 in 19th century fiction
00:14:55.060 on the symbolic wilderness
00:14:58.760 contrasting James Fenimore Cooper's
00:15:02.660 version of that wilderness
00:15:04.160 with Jack London's,
00:15:05.920 saying that Fenimore Cooper's wilderness
00:15:08.920 was pretty consistent
00:15:10.160 and what have you,
00:15:12.320 but Jack London's version
00:15:15.300 of the symbolic wilderness
00:15:17.320 was confusing
00:15:20.620 and didn't seem to have
00:15:22.840 any sense of organization
00:15:27.180 or what have you.
00:15:29.100 So I thought about it.
00:15:30.480 I said, well,
00:15:31.660 I don't think Gordon Mills
00:15:34.000 has read Jack London's work
00:15:35.980 carefully enough.
00:15:37.500 There are four different versions.
00:15:38.960 in the Northland,
00:15:40.920 then there's the Polynesia,
00:15:43.660 which I call
00:15:44.480 London's paradise lost,
00:15:46.260 and there's Melanesia,
00:15:47.880 which I call the Inferno,
00:15:49.660 and then there's
00:15:50.200 the Valley of the Moon,
00:15:51.780 which is Jack London's
00:15:53.920 pastoral wilderness
00:15:55.800 or what have you.
00:15:57.220 And each has its own
00:15:58.400 distinctive characteristics.
00:16:01.560 The qualities that a man
00:16:05.020 needs to survive
00:16:06.260 in the Northland
00:16:08.080 are totally different
00:16:09.980 from what he needs
00:16:11.400 to survive in Melanesia
00:16:14.040 and the Northland,
00:16:16.300 I think these are spelled out
00:16:17.720 pretty clearly
00:16:18.360 in the opening
00:16:19.860 of In a Far Country.
00:16:22.420 I think one of your own
00:16:23.460 favorite stories...
00:16:24.760 My favorite story.
00:16:25.340 If you give me a minute,
00:16:26.020 I'd like to read that.
00:16:27.020 Let's do it,
00:16:27.440 because it's my favorite.
00:16:28.260 It's the favorite thing
00:16:29.040 that Jack London ever wrote.
00:16:31.300 Brett dispels it out.
00:16:33.340 I'm reading the beginning
00:16:34.680 of In a Far Country,
00:16:36.200 which I call
00:16:37.740 an exemplum.
00:16:39.680 In other words,
00:16:41.360 if a preacher's
00:16:42.520 delivering a sermon,
00:16:44.240 he wants to tell
00:16:45.300 a story,
00:16:47.960 a pretty dramatic
00:16:50.100 story to illustrate
00:16:52.480 his sermon.
00:16:53.900 And that's sometimes
00:16:54.880 called an exemplum,
00:16:56.300 and that's what
00:16:56.920 we've got
00:16:58.640 in a Far Country.
00:17:00.180 And here's the sermon.
00:17:01.620 When a man journeys
00:17:04.240 into a far country,
00:17:07.060 he must be prepared
00:17:08.520 to forget many
00:17:09.660 of the things
00:17:10.360 he has learned
00:17:11.240 and to acquire
00:17:12.940 such customs
00:17:13.940 as are inherent
00:17:15.540 with the existence
00:17:16.720 of the new land.
00:17:18.360 He must abandon
00:17:19.700 the old ideals,
00:17:22.340 the old gods,
00:17:24.020 and oftentimes
00:17:24.720 he must reverse
00:17:26.740 the very codes
00:17:27.620 by which his conduct
00:17:30.240 has hitherto
00:17:31.580 been shaped.
00:17:33.160 To those
00:17:34.000 who have
00:17:34.540 the protein
00:17:35.340 faculty
00:17:36.560 of adaptability,
00:17:39.700 the novelty
00:17:40.460 of such change
00:17:41.600 may even be
00:17:42.300 a source of pleasure.
00:17:44.160 But to those
00:17:45.020 who happen
00:17:45.460 to be hardened
00:17:46.360 in the ruts
00:17:47.800 in which they were created,
00:17:49.660 the pressure
00:17:50.420 of the altered
00:17:51.420 environment
00:17:52.120 is unbearable.
00:17:54.320 They chafe
00:17:54.960 in body
00:17:55.780 and in spirit
00:17:56.760 under the new
00:17:57.480 restrictions
00:17:58.120 which they do
00:17:59.760 not understand.
00:18:01.680 This chafing
00:18:02.460 is bound
00:18:03.040 to act
00:18:03.700 and react
00:18:04.440 and producing
00:18:05.880 diverse evils
00:18:07.380 leading to
00:18:08.600 various misfortunes.
00:18:11.000 It were better
00:18:11.720 for the man
00:18:12.520 who cannot
00:18:13.220 fit himself
00:18:14.060 to the new
00:18:14.840 groove
00:18:15.700 to return
00:18:16.340 to his own country.
00:18:17.780 If he delay
00:18:18.780 too long,
00:18:20.300 he will surely
00:18:21.760 die.
00:18:23.140 The man
00:18:24.120 who turns
00:18:24.660 his back
00:18:25.200 upon the comforts
00:18:26.200 of an elder
00:18:26.780 civilization
00:18:27.620 to face
00:18:28.900 the savage youth,
00:18:30.720 the primordial
00:18:31.540 simplicity
00:18:32.180 of the North
00:18:33.140 may estimate
00:18:34.600 success
00:18:35.440 at an inverse
00:18:36.280 ratio
00:18:36.920 to the quantity
00:18:38.220 and quality
00:18:39.080 of his hopelessly
00:18:40.880 fixed habits.
00:18:42.240 He will soon
00:18:43.100 discover
00:18:43.660 if he be
00:18:44.840 a fit candidate
00:18:46.240 that the material
00:18:47.840 habits
00:18:48.520 are the less
00:18:49.760 important.
00:18:51.800 The exchange
00:18:52.520 of such things
00:18:53.560 as a dainty
00:18:54.780 menu
00:18:55.360 for rough fare
00:18:56.840 of the stiff
00:18:58.040 leather shoe
00:18:59.360 for the soft
00:19:00.640 shapeless
00:19:01.680 moccasin
00:19:02.300 of the feather bed
00:19:03.880 for a couch
00:19:04.640 in the snow
00:19:05.280 is after all
00:19:06.780 a very easy matter
00:19:07.980 but his pinch
00:19:09.460 will come
00:19:10.060 in learning
00:19:11.040 properly
00:19:12.100 to shape
00:19:13.400 his mind's
00:19:14.400 attitude
00:19:14.800 toward all
00:19:16.480 things
00:19:17.060 and especially
00:19:18.440 toward
00:19:19.540 his fellow
00:19:20.700 man
00:19:21.320 for the
00:19:22.480 courtesies
00:19:23.220 for the
00:19:24.480 courtesies
00:19:25.160 of ordinary
00:19:26.480 life
00:19:27.020 he must
00:19:28.080 substitute
00:19:28.820 unselfishness
00:19:30.800 forbearance
00:19:32.360 and tolerance
00:19:34.020 thus
00:19:35.280 and thus
00:19:36.020 only
00:19:36.460 can he gain
00:19:37.720 that pearl
00:19:39.080 of great
00:19:39.660 price
00:19:40.300 true
00:19:41.720 comradeship
00:19:43.460 and that's
00:19:44.920 the key
00:19:45.340 I think
00:19:45.960 to the
00:19:46.980 northern code
00:19:48.180 and the
00:19:49.280 two
00:19:49.500 incapables
00:19:50.300 in the
00:19:50.720 far country
00:19:51.760 as it spells
00:19:52.540 out
00:19:52.840 cannot do
00:19:53.720 that
00:19:54.300 they're
00:19:55.300 totally
00:19:56.080 unfitted
00:19:58.660 to come up
00:19:59.300 there in the
00:19:59.760 first place
00:20:00.320 and they pay
00:20:00.820 the price
00:20:01.500 well yeah
00:20:02.320 I think
00:20:02.680 what I love
00:20:03.240 about the
00:20:03.740 intro
00:20:04.640 to
00:20:05.300 in a far
00:20:05.920 country
00:20:06.280 is that
00:20:06.600 it
00:20:06.780 perfectly
00:20:07.940 encapsulates
00:20:09.340 and summarizes
00:20:10.560 Jack London's
00:20:11.760 what you call
00:20:12.200 the north land
00:20:12.960 code
00:20:13.360 so
00:20:14.320 you know
00:20:14.880 from what
00:20:15.300 we just read
00:20:15.980 there
00:20:16.240 what you just
00:20:16.700 read there
00:20:17.040 part of the
00:20:17.580 north land
00:20:17.960 code
00:20:18.300 is
00:20:18.680 adaptability
00:20:19.800 exactly
00:20:20.580 it's also
00:20:21.400 true comradeship
00:20:23.020 exactly
00:20:23.520 those seem
00:20:24.000 like to be
00:20:24.240 the two
00:20:24.620 important
00:20:25.020 things
00:20:25.560 for
00:20:26.080 London
00:20:26.740 when it
00:20:27.560 came to
00:20:27.800 the north
00:20:28.080 land
00:20:28.280 code
00:20:28.600 both
00:20:29.420 are
00:20:29.620 important
00:20:30.180 there's
00:20:31.120 another
00:20:31.420 factor
00:20:32.040 he doesn't
00:20:32.740 mention
00:20:33.140 here
00:20:33.660 he mentions
00:20:34.760 later
00:20:35.280 in addition
00:20:36.300 to
00:20:36.780 adaptability
00:20:38.200 camaraderie
00:20:40.020 what have
00:20:40.660 you
00:20:40.860 all that
00:20:41.460 there's
00:20:42.320 another
00:20:42.600 factor
00:20:43.100 that
00:20:43.440 comes up
00:20:45.260 very clearly
00:20:46.580 in
00:20:47.320 that great
00:20:48.540 classic
00:20:49.320 to build
00:20:50.200 a fire
00:20:50.820 and
00:20:52.880 we're
00:20:54.420 talking about
00:20:55.160 the man
00:20:56.500 who does
00:20:58.100 not have a
00:20:58.720 name
00:20:59.160 in this
00:21:00.280 version
00:21:00.860 incidentally
00:21:02.240 I've seen
00:21:03.500 the original
00:21:04.100 manuscript
00:21:04.780 and
00:21:06.240 at first
00:21:07.620 when he
00:21:08.020 started this
00:21:08.640 story
00:21:09.060 Jack London
00:21:09.740 gave the
00:21:10.380 man a name
00:21:11.280 I think
00:21:12.180 as I
00:21:12.660 recollect
00:21:13.100 something
00:21:13.420 like
00:21:13.720 John
00:21:14.100 Collins
00:21:14.720 but
00:21:15.920 after
00:21:16.240 about
00:21:16.680 a
00:21:17.620 thousand
00:21:18.000 words
00:21:18.580 meaning
00:21:18.900 after
00:21:19.300 I
00:21:19.520 think
00:21:19.820 the
00:21:20.500 first
00:21:20.820 day
00:21:21.300 he
00:21:22.140 comes
00:21:22.500 back
00:21:22.940 and
00:21:23.140 says
00:21:23.400 this
00:21:23.640 story
00:21:23.960 would
00:21:24.160 be
00:21:24.340 more
00:21:24.640 effective
00:21:25.100 if
00:21:25.920 I
00:21:26.100 made
00:21:26.380 this
00:21:26.700 every
00:21:27.120 man
00:21:27.480 instead
00:21:27.800 of
00:21:28.140 a
00:21:28.580 specific
00:21:29.060 man
00:21:29.620 now
00:21:30.320 by the
00:21:30.620 way
00:21:30.760 you know
00:21:31.040 there's
00:21:31.300 an
00:21:31.420 early
00:21:31.660 version
00:21:32.100 of
00:21:32.300 the
00:21:32.440 story
00:21:32.840 that
00:21:33.180 we
00:21:33.880 found
00:21:34.360 King
00:21:35.280 Hendricks
00:21:35.700 and I
00:21:36.000 found
00:21:36.340 the
00:21:36.540 summer
00:21:36.820 I
00:21:37.020 was
00:21:37.240 working
00:21:37.920 with
00:21:38.180 him
00:21:38.360 out
00:21:38.600 at
00:21:38.780 Utah
00:21:39.120 State
00:21:41.280 what
00:21:41.960 say
00:21:42.360 six
00:21:42.720 years
00:21:43.020 earlier
00:21:43.380 and
00:21:43.580 youth
00:21:43.820 companion
00:21:44.480 totally
00:21:45.340 different
00:21:45.720 from
00:21:46.020 this
00:21:46.400 by the
00:21:47.060 same
00:21:47.340 title
00:21:47.780 but
00:21:48.060 the
00:21:48.720 young
00:21:49.020 man
00:21:49.340 in there
00:21:49.640 is
00:21:49.780 given
00:21:50.020 a
00:21:50.240 name
00:21:50.520 and
00:21:50.660 he
00:21:50.840 survives
00:21:51.540 but
00:21:52.140 this
00:21:52.340 guy
00:21:52.560 is
00:21:52.680 not
00:21:52.880 going
00:21:53.100 to
00:21:53.220 make
00:21:53.500 it
00:21:53.720 and
00:21:54.320 here's
00:21:54.660 why
00:21:55.060 by the
00:21:55.920 way
00:21:56.060 London
00:21:56.460 opens
00:21:57.060 this
00:21:57.260 story
00:21:57.600 talking
00:21:58.100 about
00:21:58.560 how
00:21:59.420 weird
00:21:59.820 the
00:22:00.140 situation
00:22:01.260 is
00:22:01.740 up
00:22:02.440 there
00:22:02.680 very
00:22:03.220 very
00:22:03.480 cold
00:22:04.040 70
00:22:04.860 something
00:22:05.200 degrees
00:22:05.680 below
00:22:06.000 zero
00:22:06.460 no
00:22:06.900 sun
00:22:07.220 in
00:22:07.380 the
00:22:07.540 sky
00:22:07.940 but
00:22:09.460 all
00:22:09.880 this
00:22:10.360 the
00:22:11.160 mysterious
00:22:11.940 far
00:22:12.660 reaching
00:22:13.060 airline
00:22:13.680 trail
00:22:14.180 the
00:22:15.340 absence
00:22:15.780 of
00:22:16.220 sun
00:22:16.520 from
00:22:16.720 the
00:22:16.880 sky
00:22:17.280 the
00:22:18.540 tremendous
00:22:19.100 cold
00:22:19.800 the
00:22:21.000 strangeness
00:22:21.860 and
00:22:22.380 weirdness
00:22:23.220 of it
00:22:23.720 all
00:22:24.120 made
00:22:25.200 no
00:22:25.500 impression
00:22:26.120 on the
00:22:26.640 man
00:22:27.060 it
00:22:28.360 was not
00:22:28.860 because
00:22:29.520 he was
00:22:30.820 long
00:22:31.180 used
00:22:31.520 to it
00:22:32.100 he
00:22:33.440 was
00:22:33.660 newcomer
00:22:34.300 land
00:22:34.720 at
00:22:34.920 chichak
00:22:35.380 quo
00:22:35.780 and
00:22:36.760 this
00:22:36.940 was
00:22:37.120 his
00:22:37.320 first
00:22:37.660 winter
00:22:38.080 the
00:22:39.400 trouble
00:22:39.820 with
00:22:40.160 him
00:22:40.580 was
00:22:41.100 that
00:22:41.800 he
00:22:42.020 was
00:22:42.380 without
00:22:42.960 imagination
00:22:44.280 he
00:22:46.040 was
00:22:46.340 quick
00:22:46.740 and
00:22:47.100 alert
00:22:47.500 in
00:22:47.780 the
00:22:47.980 things
00:22:48.320 of
00:22:48.500 life
00:22:48.960 but
00:22:50.100 only
00:22:50.480 in
00:22:50.680 the
00:22:50.860 things
00:22:51.540 and
00:22:52.400 not
00:22:52.760 in
00:22:53.100 the
00:22:53.340 significances
00:22:54.460 50
00:22:55.860 degrees
00:22:56.520 below
00:22:56.940 zero
00:22:57.600 meant
00:22:58.780 80
00:22:59.880 odd
00:23:00.920 degrees
00:23:01.520 of
00:23:01.760 frost
00:23:02.320 such
00:23:03.600 fact
00:23:04.080 impressed
00:23:04.700 him
00:23:05.040 as
00:23:05.300 being
00:23:05.740 cold
00:23:06.800 and
00:23:07.120 uncomfortable
00:23:07.760 and
00:23:08.640 that
00:23:08.840 was
00:23:09.020 all
00:23:09.480 it
00:23:10.480 did
00:23:10.700 not
00:23:11.000 lead
00:23:11.320 him
00:23:11.700 to
00:23:12.360 meditate
00:23:12.900 upon
00:23:13.960 his
00:23:14.260 frailty
00:23:14.900 as
00:23:16.160 a
00:23:16.400 creature
00:23:16.860 of
00:23:17.620 temperature
00:23:18.180 and
00:23:19.320 upon
00:23:19.780 man's
00:23:21.140 frailty
00:23:22.120 in
00:23:22.580 general
00:23:23.080 able
00:23:24.100 only
00:23:24.660 to
00:23:25.380 live
00:23:25.680 within
00:23:26.060 certain
00:23:26.600 narrow
00:23:27.020 limits
00:23:27.560 of
00:23:28.160 heat
00:23:28.460 and
00:23:28.720 cold
00:23:29.180 and
00:23:30.240 from
00:23:30.500 there
00:23:30.820 on
00:23:31.340 did
00:23:32.100 not
00:23:32.380 lead
00:23:32.700 him
00:23:33.120 to
00:23:33.500 the
00:23:35.500 conjectural
00:23:36.400 field
00:23:37.020 of
00:23:38.320 immortality
00:23:39.580 and
00:23:40.580 man's
00:23:41.160 place
00:23:41.960 in
00:23:42.600 the
00:23:42.780 universe
00:23:43.520 now
00:23:44.820 this
00:23:45.080 is a
00:23:45.460 master
00:23:45.860 stroke
00:23:46.420 of
00:23:46.660 the
00:23:46.820 artist
00:23:47.340 in
00:23:48.140 other
00:23:48.280 words
00:23:48.480 here's
00:23:48.760 a
00:23:48.900 story
00:23:49.300 that
00:23:49.560 is
00:23:49.720 so
00:23:49.980 deftly
00:23:50.700 and
00:23:51.460 beautifully
00:23:51.960 woven
00:23:52.600 together
00:23:53.120 the
00:23:53.760 reader
00:23:54.100 doesn't
00:23:54.640 realize
00:23:55.320 that
00:23:56.200 suddenly
00:23:56.900 there's
00:23:57.860 a
00:23:58.040 profound
00:23:58.520 philosophical
00:23:59.320 message
00:23:59.880 in this
00:24:00.320 story
00:24:00.760 it's
00:24:01.000 more
00:24:01.240 than
00:24:01.420 about
00:24:01.700 just
00:24:02.000 a
00:24:02.580 man's
00:24:02.960 getting
00:24:03.220 cold
00:24:05.280 and dying
00:24:05.840 from
00:24:06.140 freezing
00:24:06.560 to
00:24:06.820 death
00:24:07.180 but
00:24:07.980 there's
00:24:08.680 another
00:24:08.960 message
00:24:09.520 underlying
00:24:10.380 this
00:24:10.900 which
00:24:11.560 he's
00:24:11.880 just
00:24:12.180 slipped
00:24:13.020 in
00:24:13.320 there
00:24:13.620 but
00:24:13.880 he's
00:24:14.080 done
00:24:14.280 it
00:24:14.440 so
00:24:14.740 so
00:24:15.520 deftly
00:24:16.200 so
00:24:16.540 artistically
00:24:17.260 you read
00:24:18.240 right on
00:24:18.660 through
00:24:18.920 and don't
00:24:19.460 stumble
00:24:20.120 over it
00:24:20.720 it's
00:24:21.380 a
00:24:21.520 wonderful
00:24:21.900 example
00:24:23.240 of what
00:24:23.720 London
00:24:24.120 was doing
00:24:25.380 later on
00:24:26.160 I'll talk
00:24:26.600 about how
00:24:27.040 he does
00:24:27.440 that in the
00:24:27.860 call
00:24:28.100 the wild
00:24:28.620 I wanted
00:24:30.780 to bring
00:24:31.120 in
00:24:31.360 as a
00:24:32.060 factor
00:24:32.420 he mentions
00:24:33.500 that other
00:24:33.940 places too
00:24:34.800 the importance
00:24:35.920 of imagination
00:24:36.980 if you're
00:24:37.800 going to
00:24:37.980 make it up
00:24:38.460 there
00:24:38.660 and later
00:24:39.860 on when he's
00:24:40.560 talking about
00:24:41.320 survival
00:24:42.380 in Melanesia
00:24:45.380 he said
00:24:46.280 one of the
00:24:47.180 things there
00:24:47.740 to survive
00:24:48.940 whoever's
00:24:50.020 going to
00:24:50.220 make it
00:24:50.560 doesn't need
00:24:51.040 any imagination
00:24:51.700 he's just
00:24:52.380 got to be
00:24:52.980 as mean
00:24:53.960 as the
00:24:54.340 savages
00:24:54.780 around there
00:24:55.580 and resort
00:24:56.800 to stuff
00:24:57.540 as bad
00:24:59.680 as they
00:25:00.060 do
00:25:00.480 totally
00:25:01.680 different
00:25:02.180 from the
00:25:02.620 Northland
00:25:03.300 we're going
00:25:03.860 to take a
00:25:04.040 quick break
00:25:04.360 for your
00:25:04.660 words from
00:25:04.920 our sponsors
00:25:05.420 and now
00:25:07.400 back to
00:25:07.920 the show
00:25:08.340 well
00:25:09.360 so we've
00:25:09.960 got this
00:25:10.360 idea of
00:25:10.780 imagination
00:25:11.400 and going
00:25:12.200 back to
00:25:13.000 in a
00:25:13.340 far
00:25:13.540 country
00:25:14.040 I think
00:25:15.120 it's
00:25:15.240 related to
00:25:16.000 one of
00:25:16.620 the things
00:25:17.300 that seem
00:25:17.720 to be
00:25:17.980 wrong
00:25:18.320 or something
00:25:18.780 that London
00:25:19.540 talks about
00:25:20.060 not only
00:25:20.520 in a
00:25:21.380 far
00:25:21.540 country
00:25:21.880 but you
00:25:22.140 see it
00:25:22.580 in
00:25:22.860 the
00:25:23.080 call
00:25:23.260 the
00:25:23.440 wild
00:25:23.840 white
00:25:24.640 fang
00:25:25.040 London
00:25:25.880 went up
00:25:26.260 to
00:25:26.640 the
00:25:26.960 Klondike
00:25:27.420 when people
00:25:27.900 were going
00:25:28.240 up there
00:25:28.720 for the
00:25:29.380 gold rush
00:25:29.980 but in
00:25:31.460 his stories
00:25:31.840 he talks
00:25:32.300 about
00:25:32.740 one of
00:25:33.560 the problems
00:25:33.920 with the
00:25:34.220 incapables
00:25:34.820 and some
00:25:35.140 of the
00:25:35.340 other
00:25:35.580 characters
00:25:36.000 who don't
00:25:36.400 fare well
00:25:37.120 in the
00:25:37.720 Klondike
00:25:38.200 is that
00:25:39.320 they went
00:25:40.260 up there
00:25:40.680 with impure
00:25:41.460 intentions
00:25:42.000 almost
00:25:42.980 they didn't
00:25:43.240 have the
00:25:43.540 right
00:25:43.780 intention
00:25:44.300 like with
00:25:45.140 the
00:25:45.260 incapables
00:25:46.060 they went
00:25:46.960 they didn't
00:25:47.420 London
00:25:47.880 said they
00:25:48.680 had
00:25:48.980 sentimentality
00:25:49.980 about
00:25:51.040 the
00:25:51.360 Klondike
00:25:51.880 but they
00:25:52.500 didn't
00:25:52.720 have the
00:25:53.060 spirit of
00:25:53.560 true romance
00:25:54.540 and adventure
00:25:55.100 what was
00:25:56.340 the difference
00:25:56.840 in London's
00:25:57.520 mind
00:25:57.720 well in
00:25:58.160 London's
00:25:58.660 mind
00:25:58.920 I mean
00:25:59.340 sentimentality
00:26:00.640 is this
00:26:01.100 illusion
00:26:01.600 that you're
00:26:02.060 going up
00:26:02.560 having a
00:26:03.460 beautiful
00:26:04.060 what a
00:26:06.020 lovely
00:26:06.420 time out
00:26:07.780 with nature
00:26:08.440 or whatever
00:26:09.060 gonna have
00:26:10.040 gonna have
00:26:12.420 a pretty
00:26:12.700 easy time
00:26:13.400 just enjoying
00:26:14.200 the beauties
00:26:14.860 of nature
00:26:16.040 without really
00:26:17.640 understanding
00:26:18.380 the reality
00:26:19.040 of the
00:26:19.600 situation
00:26:20.280 and that's
00:26:22.140 I think
00:26:23.460 Percy
00:26:24.000 Cuffford
00:26:24.680 is the
00:26:25.900 dilettante
00:26:26.860 who thinks
00:26:27.920 that he's
00:26:28.680 just
00:26:28.940 he's read
00:26:30.320 a lot of
00:26:30.760 romantic
00:26:31.240 stuff about
00:26:32.720 the animals
00:26:33.440 etc
00:26:33.840 it's gonna
00:26:35.200 be some
00:26:35.960 kind of
00:26:36.400 wonderland
00:26:37.040 up there
00:26:37.500 winter
00:26:37.980 wonderland
00:26:38.800 which of
00:26:39.660 course is
00:26:40.060 not
00:26:40.500 and the
00:26:41.380 other with
00:26:42.060 Weatherby
00:26:43.380 Carter
00:26:43.760 Weatherby
00:26:44.600 I think
00:26:45.160 is going
00:26:46.180 just for
00:26:46.940 strictly
00:26:47.840 materialistic
00:26:49.040 gain or
00:26:50.060 whatever
00:26:50.540 thinks he's
00:26:51.500 gonna become
00:26:52.680 a millionaire
00:26:53.380 without it
00:26:54.320 having to do
00:26:55.160 too much
00:26:55.640 to achieve
00:26:56.240 that
00:26:56.580 but the
00:26:57.520 idea
00:26:58.000 of true
00:26:59.000 adventure
00:26:59.660 I'm going
00:27:00.820 back to
00:27:01.240 seeking again
00:27:02.100 you want
00:27:03.260 to go
00:27:03.780 regardless
00:27:04.840 of the
00:27:05.860 danger
00:27:06.440 and you
00:27:07.420 want to
00:27:07.800 find out
00:27:08.520 what the
00:27:08.940 new
00:27:09.160 frontiers
00:27:09.820 are like
00:27:10.460 you're
00:27:11.120 willing to
00:27:11.620 go ahead
00:27:12.220 and even
00:27:13.160 risk your
00:27:13.760 life
00:27:14.240 to
00:27:15.100 to grow
00:27:17.080 to find
00:27:17.760 find out
00:27:19.640 what your
00:27:20.000 limits might
00:27:20.680 be and
00:27:21.120 test them
00:27:21.700 find out
00:27:22.620 what nature
00:27:23.180 is really
00:27:23.580 like
00:27:24.060 speaking
00:27:25.020 realistically
00:27:25.840 and speaking
00:27:27.420 about in
00:27:27.740 the far
00:27:28.040 country
00:27:28.480 you've
00:27:29.120 written
00:27:29.260 about this
00:27:29.940 you make
00:27:30.600 the case
00:27:31.100 that the
00:27:31.660 incapables
00:27:32.380 as you
00:27:33.020 call them
00:27:33.420 london
00:27:34.300 use that
00:27:34.900 use those
00:27:35.500 characters
00:27:35.920 as a way
00:27:36.520 to explore
00:27:38.000 the seven
00:27:38.500 deadly sins
00:27:39.420 what was
00:27:42.220 going on
00:27:42.660 there so
00:27:43.020 is this
00:27:43.260 actually a
00:27:43.740 sermon
00:27:44.040 i got
00:27:47.540 something
00:27:47.960 i had
00:27:48.700 fun
00:27:49.080 with that
00:27:49.720 but
00:27:50.000 i
00:27:51.280 went
00:27:51.580 if you
00:27:52.680 give me
00:27:53.100 a minute
00:27:53.400 i'll
00:27:53.640 check it
00:27:54.180 out here
00:27:54.820 after an
00:27:55.960 overeager
00:27:56.560 show of
00:27:57.180 industrious
00:27:58.000 cooperation
00:27:58.660 they
00:28:00.340 abandoned
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00:28:01.920 austere
00:28:02.720 discipline
00:28:03.780 of the
00:28:04.580 code
00:28:05.160 discipline
00:28:06.660 is a
00:28:07.120 key
00:28:07.440 their
00:28:08.560 spiritual
00:28:09.300 degeneration
00:28:10.280 as they
00:28:11.540 succumb
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00:28:14.960 seven
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00:28:15.840 sins
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00:28:18.360 dramatized
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00:28:20.580 social
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00:28:24.140 pride
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00:28:26.120 manifest
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00:28:27.180 foolish
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00:28:28.060 that
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00:28:30.360 the mutual
00:28:31.080 trust
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00:28:33.060 survival
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00:28:34.700 wilderness
00:28:35.120 mutual
00:28:36.160 trust
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00:28:36.980 a key
00:28:37.400 there
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00:28:38.380 i'm
00:28:39.460 quoting
00:28:39.800 here
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00:28:40.940 one
00:28:41.320 was a
00:28:41.760 lower
00:28:42.020 class
00:28:42.520 man
00:28:42.940 who
00:28:43.200 considered
00:28:43.660 himself
00:28:44.160 a
00:28:44.440 gentleman
00:28:44.840 and the
00:28:45.760 other
00:28:45.940 was a
00:28:46.380 gentleman
00:28:46.780 who
00:28:47.260 knew
00:28:47.880 himself
00:28:48.380 to be
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00:28:52.660 a man
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00:28:53.620 be a
00:28:54.660 gentleman
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00:28:56.140 possessing
00:28:56.980 the first
00:28:57.520 instinct
00:28:58.200 of true
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00:29:00.340 next
00:29:01.880 appears
00:29:02.880 lust
00:29:03.660 as
00:29:04.780 they
00:29:05.040 consume
00:29:05.660 with
00:29:05.960 sensual
00:29:06.600 promiscuity
00:29:07.700 their
00:29:08.400 supply
00:29:08.940 of
00:29:09.280 sugar
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00:29:10.700 it
00:29:11.000 with
00:29:11.200 hot
00:29:11.480 water
00:29:11.880 and
00:29:12.100 then
00:29:12.360 dissipating
00:29:13.880 quote
00:29:14.240 the rich
00:29:14.820 white
00:29:15.280 syrup
00:29:15.760 over
00:29:16.700 their
00:29:16.940 flapjacks
00:29:17.920 and
00:29:18.200 bread
00:29:18.740 crust
00:29:19.240 this
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00:29:21.140 sloth
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00:29:22.580 they
00:29:22.780 sink
00:29:23.160 into
00:29:23.500 a
00:29:23.780 lethargy
00:29:24.300 that
00:29:24.540 makes
00:29:24.860 them
00:29:25.240 rebel
00:29:26.500 at the
00:29:26.880 performance
00:29:27.380 of the
00:29:27.820 smallest
00:29:28.340 chore
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00:29:30.120 washing
00:29:30.740 and
00:29:31.520 personal
00:29:31.980 cleanliness
00:29:32.780 and for
00:29:33.860 that
00:29:34.140 matter
00:29:34.560 common
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00:29:38.480 gluttony
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00:29:39.980 moral
00:29:40.460 deterioration
00:29:41.520 now
00:29:41.920 begins
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00:29:43.660 externalize
00:29:45.080 itself
00:29:45.540 in their
00:29:46.060 physical
00:29:46.980 appearance
00:29:47.800 I
00:29:48.640 afraid
00:29:48.880 they
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00:29:49.480 getting
00:29:49.880 their
00:29:50.160 proper
00:29:50.560 shares
00:29:51.200 in
00:29:52.100 order
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00:29:53.660 may
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00:29:54.280 robbed
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00:29:59.380 of
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00:30:12.100 and
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00:30:13.040 began
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00:30:14.340 swell
00:30:14.800 the
00:30:15.700 flesh
00:30:16.060 turning
00:30:16.500 black
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00:30:18.000 their
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00:30:20.700 on
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00:30:21.160 color
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00:30:24.820 drawn
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00:30:26.260 misery
00:30:26.740 each
00:30:27.820 gloated
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00:30:29.140 the
00:30:29.340 other's
00:30:29.820 symptoms
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00:30:31.240 the
00:30:31.440 scurvy
00:30:31.840 took
00:30:32.200 its
00:30:32.440 course
00:30:33.040 covetous
00:30:34.500 and
00:30:35.140 envy
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00:30:36.960 they
00:30:37.200 divide
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00:30:40.440 hide
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00:30:41.660 each
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00:30:43.620 with
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00:30:46.540 precious
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00:30:49.800 cardinal
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00:31:00.660 the
00:31:00.820 very
00:31:01.040 end
00:31:01.500 that's
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00:31:02.620 kill
00:31:02.900 each
00:31:03.160 other
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00:31:04.080 the
00:31:04.240 very
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00:31:04.840 of
00:31:04.960 the
00:31:05.120 thing
00:31:05.500 that's
00:31:06.380 the
00:31:06.560 anger
00:31:07.020 so
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00:31:08.300 there's
00:31:09.060 a lot
00:31:09.380 in
00:31:09.740 between
00:31:10.100 there
00:31:10.380 but
00:31:10.620 that
00:31:11.180 gives
00:31:11.480 you
00:31:11.620 at
00:31:11.780 least
00:31:11.980 a
00:31:12.280 rough
00:31:12.540 idea
00:31:13.020 as
00:31:13.560 I was
00:31:14.180 having
00:31:14.440 some
00:31:14.880 fun
00:31:15.300 just
00:31:15.520 playing
00:31:15.840 with
00:31:16.080 that
00:31:16.360 that
00:31:16.780 story
00:31:18.460 I think
00:31:18.980 is one
00:31:19.340 of his
00:31:19.600 underrated
00:31:20.200 stories
00:31:20.980 it's
00:31:22.000 really
00:31:22.220 worth
00:31:22.600 a
00:31:23.080 it says
00:31:24.000 so much
00:31:24.600 about
00:31:24.960 the
00:31:25.620 code
00:31:25.960 and also
00:31:26.420 about
00:31:26.740 London
00:31:27.120 literary
00:31:27.640 artistry
00:31:28.420 yeah
00:31:29.040 I think
00:31:29.480 I agree
00:31:30.020 you mentioned
00:31:31.140 the call
00:31:31.720 of the
00:31:31.940 wild
00:31:32.280 and so
00:31:33.260 that's
00:31:33.600 that's
00:31:34.460 in the
00:31:34.680 news
00:31:35.060 they've
00:31:35.660 got a
00:31:35.900 new
00:31:36.040 movie
00:31:36.300 coming
00:31:36.560 out
00:31:36.900 based
00:31:37.400 off
00:31:37.640 the
00:31:37.780 call
00:31:37.940 of
00:31:38.060 the
00:31:38.140 wild
00:31:38.400 Disney
00:31:38.740 does
00:31:39.120 starring
00:31:39.800 Harrison
00:31:40.200 Ford
00:31:40.580 what
00:31:41.120 themes
00:31:41.700 does
00:31:42.800 London
00:31:43.360 talk about
00:31:44.000 in the
00:31:44.300 call
00:31:44.480 of the
00:31:44.700 wild
00:31:44.980 that
00:31:45.240 you
00:31:45.400 think
00:31:45.700 hit
00:31:46.180 on
00:31:46.360 the
00:31:46.520 idea
00:31:46.780 of
00:31:46.920 the
00:31:47.020 Northland
00:31:47.480 code
00:31:47.840 well
00:31:48.660 we're
00:31:49.320 back
00:31:49.640 again
00:31:50.000 to
00:31:50.340 adaptability
00:31:52.040 in the
00:31:53.360 call
00:31:53.600 of the
00:31:53.780 wild
00:31:54.100 I mean
00:31:55.380 that's
00:31:55.640 certainly
00:31:56.220 one reason
00:31:57.700 that
00:31:58.140 Buck
00:31:58.640 is able
00:31:59.100 to
00:31:59.460 survive
00:32:00.420 because
00:32:01.580 he
00:32:01.840 adapts
00:32:02.520 even
00:32:03.540 though
00:32:03.940 it
00:32:04.540 requires
00:32:05.060 him
00:32:05.380 to
00:32:06.180 become
00:32:07.180 something
00:32:07.720 very
00:32:08.240 different
00:32:08.660 from
00:32:08.940 what
00:32:09.160 he
00:32:09.280 was
00:32:09.620 as
00:32:10.460 the
00:32:10.840 sort
00:32:11.360 of
00:32:11.520 pet
00:32:11.800 ranch
00:32:12.680 dog
00:32:13.060 back
00:32:13.400 on
00:32:13.620 the
00:32:14.680 ranch
00:32:15.220 down
00:32:15.560 in
00:32:15.840 California
00:32:17.080 etc
00:32:17.620 the
00:32:18.740 kind
00:32:19.140 of
00:32:19.420 the
00:32:20.280 code
00:32:20.700 that
00:32:21.000 I
00:32:21.400 think
00:32:21.760 animals
00:32:23.180 live
00:32:23.520 by
00:32:23.960 is
00:32:25.180 different
00:32:25.600 from
00:32:25.960 the
00:32:26.240 Northland
00:32:26.680 code
00:32:27.060 that
00:32:27.300 men
00:32:27.640 live
00:32:27.980 by
00:32:28.400 in
00:32:28.900 some
00:32:29.200 ways
00:32:29.680 for
00:32:30.460 example
00:32:30.900 with
00:32:32.180 animals
00:32:33.320 and with
00:32:33.960 Buck
00:32:34.400 sometimes
00:32:35.140 he has
00:32:35.740 to
00:32:35.900 kill
00:32:36.180 to
00:32:36.380 survive
00:32:36.940 and
00:32:37.980 that's
00:32:38.300 not
00:32:38.580 generally
00:32:39.100 the
00:32:39.320 case
00:32:39.580 with
00:32:39.780 the
00:32:39.940 men
00:32:40.240 in
00:32:41.040 the
00:32:41.200 Northland
00:32:41.680 code
00:32:42.140 but
00:32:43.240 let's
00:32:43.700 go
00:32:43.860 back
00:32:44.220 after
00:32:44.960 he
00:32:45.200 has
00:32:46.620 the
00:32:46.860 will
00:32:47.360 to
00:32:48.280 take
00:32:49.560 over
00:32:49.880 to
00:32:50.160 take
00:32:50.420 control
00:32:50.920 of
00:32:51.120 the
00:32:51.340 team
00:32:52.340 and
00:32:52.540 what
00:32:52.760 have
00:32:53.140 you
00:32:53.340 he's
00:32:54.380 tough
00:32:54.780 he's
00:32:55.080 strong
00:32:55.580 but
00:32:56.880 he's
00:32:57.160 got
00:32:57.400 spirit
00:32:57.980 and
00:32:59.620 finally
00:33:00.460 though
00:33:01.460 it's
00:33:01.760 love
00:33:02.140 that
00:33:02.380 prevails
00:33:02.980 it's
00:33:04.020 his
00:33:04.200 love
00:33:04.480 for
00:33:04.680 John
00:33:05.020 Thornton
00:33:05.620 that
00:33:06.540 really
00:33:06.960 saves
00:33:07.640 him
00:33:07.820 at
00:33:08.000 the
00:33:08.180 end
00:33:08.640 of
00:33:09.460 course
00:33:09.720 to
00:33:10.600 become
00:33:10.980 the
00:33:11.320 supernatural
00:33:14.360 ghost
00:33:16.040 dog
00:33:16.400 of
00:33:16.540 the
00:33:16.680 North
00:33:17.020 he
00:33:17.920 has
00:33:18.160 to
00:33:18.300 even
00:33:18.560 leave
00:33:18.920 John
00:33:19.340 Thornton
00:33:19.960 and
00:33:20.740 I
00:33:20.940 want
00:33:21.420 to
00:33:21.560 talk
00:33:21.860 at
00:33:22.020 some
00:33:22.280 point
00:33:22.660 about
00:33:23.380 the
00:33:23.620 call
00:33:23.860 of
00:33:23.980 the
00:33:24.080 wild
00:33:24.460 and
00:33:25.220 the
00:33:25.380 fact
00:33:25.620 there's
00:33:25.860 so
00:33:26.040 much
00:33:26.320 more
00:33:26.660 there
00:33:26.960 than
00:33:27.180 just
00:33:27.460 a
00:33:27.620 dog
00:33:27.900 story
00:33:28.400 whenever
00:33:28.960 you're
00:33:29.340 ready
00:33:29.560 to
00:33:29.800 do
00:33:30.000 that
00:33:30.280 let's
00:33:30.640 let's
00:33:31.120 move
00:33:31.500 right
00:33:31.760 into
00:33:31.920 that
00:33:32.040 let's
00:33:32.200 talk
00:33:32.460 about
00:33:32.680 that
00:33:32.860 go
00:33:33.080 ahead
00:33:33.360 let
00:33:34.080 me
00:33:34.200 talk
00:33:34.480 a
00:33:34.620 little
00:33:34.760 bit
00:33:34.980 about
00:33:35.320 the
00:33:35.720 universal
00:33:36.820 appeal
00:33:37.440 of
00:33:37.640 this
00:33:37.880 novel
00:33:38.360 it's
00:33:39.580 been
00:33:39.800 translated
00:33:40.420 into
00:33:40.740 nearly
00:33:41.120 100
00:33:41.480 different
00:33:41.920 languages
00:33:42.360 I
00:33:42.660 think
00:33:43.020 and
00:33:44.580 it's
00:33:45.860 obviously
00:33:46.300 more than
00:33:46.960 a good
00:33:47.340 dog
00:33:47.720 story
00:33:48.180 it's
00:33:48.480 that
00:33:48.720 but
00:33:48.940 much
00:33:49.220 more
00:33:49.660 and
00:33:50.160 I
00:33:50.280 wanted
00:33:50.520 to
00:33:50.660 talk
00:33:50.940 about
00:33:51.300 the
00:33:51.520 call
00:33:51.760 of
00:33:51.880 the
00:33:51.960 wild
00:33:52.300 as
00:33:53.380 such
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00:33:54.500 rich
00:33:54.920 work
00:33:56.380 in
00:33:56.600 terms
00:33:56.880 of
00:33:57.060 thematic
00:33:57.720 richness
00:33:58.560 and
00:33:58.880 also
00:33:59.380 literary
00:34:00.200 artistry
00:34:01.000 the
00:34:02.120 first
00:34:02.560 six
00:34:03.320 chapters
00:34:03.980 are
00:34:05.140 pretty
00:34:05.460 matter
00:34:05.840 of
00:34:06.100 fact
00:34:06.440 I
00:34:06.640 think
00:34:06.900 it
00:34:07.060 starts
00:34:07.560 the
00:34:08.060 book
00:34:08.340 starts
00:34:08.840 with
00:34:09.040 something
00:34:09.500 Buck
00:34:10.480 did
00:34:10.820 not
00:34:11.120 read
00:34:11.600 the
00:34:12.340 newspapers
00:34:13.000 that's
00:34:13.400 pretty
00:34:13.620 matter
00:34:13.980 of
00:34:14.220 fact
00:34:14.580 interesting
00:34:15.520 he
00:34:15.860 didn't
00:34:16.480 say
00:34:16.780 that
00:34:17.040 Buck
00:34:17.340 can't
00:34:17.800 read
00:34:18.120 he
00:34:18.320 just
00:34:18.520 said
00:34:18.780 Buck
00:34:19.380 did
00:34:19.620 not
00:34:19.900 read
00:34:20.200 the
00:34:20.380 newspapers
00:34:21.020 but
00:34:21.380 that's
00:34:21.720 pretty
00:34:21.940 that's
00:34:22.920 a
00:34:22.960 state
00:34:23.180 and
00:34:23.320 matter
00:34:23.580 of
00:34:23.780 fact
00:34:24.100 and
00:34:24.940 the
00:34:25.100 first
00:34:25.500 six
00:34:26.420 chapters
00:34:26.920 are
00:34:27.660 quite
00:34:28.160 realistic
00:34:28.820 and
00:34:29.860 what
00:34:30.460 have
00:34:30.760 you
00:34:30.880 but
00:34:31.100 there's
00:34:31.420 one
00:34:31.680 section
00:34:32.260 that is
00:34:33.240 outstanding
00:34:33.960 and I
00:34:35.300 want to
00:34:35.580 read
00:34:35.840 that
00:34:36.260 there's
00:34:40.960 an
00:34:41.140 ecstasy
00:34:41.720 that marks
00:34:43.100 the summit
00:34:43.660 of life
00:34:44.380 beyond
00:34:45.480 which
00:34:45.920 life
00:34:46.300 cannot
00:34:46.660 rise
00:34:47.380 such
00:34:49.120 is
00:34:49.280 the
00:34:49.440 paradox
00:34:50.060 of
00:34:50.340 living
00:34:50.700 this
00:34:51.860 ecstasy
00:34:52.500 comes
00:34:53.100 when
00:34:53.760 one
00:34:54.180 is
00:34:54.520 most
00:34:54.900 alive
00:34:55.560 and
00:34:56.680 it
00:34:56.840 comes
00:34:57.200 as
00:34:57.540 a
00:34:57.820 complete
00:34:58.460 forgetfulness
00:34:59.660 that
00:35:00.580 one
00:35:00.900 is
00:35:01.100 alive
00:35:01.680 this
00:35:02.940 ecstasy
00:35:03.640 this
00:35:04.800 forgetfulness
00:35:05.520 of
00:35:05.900 living
00:35:06.280 comes
00:35:07.740 to
00:35:07.920 the
00:35:08.100 artist
00:35:08.600 caught
00:35:09.740 up
00:35:10.040 and
00:35:10.220 out
00:35:10.420 of
00:35:10.540 himself
00:35:11.120 and
00:35:12.040 in
00:35:12.180 a
00:35:12.340 sheet
00:35:12.580 of
00:35:12.780 flame
00:35:13.340 it
00:35:14.660 comes
00:35:15.060 to
00:35:15.240 the
00:35:15.420 soldier
00:35:15.880 war
00:35:16.300 mad
00:35:16.700 on
00:35:17.360 a
00:35:17.540 stricken
00:35:17.960 field
00:35:18.980 and
00:35:19.240 refusing
00:35:19.740 quarter
00:35:20.320 it
00:35:21.220 came
00:35:21.520 to
00:35:21.740 buck
00:35:22.080 leading
00:35:23.120 the
00:35:23.380 pack
00:35:23.780 sounding
00:35:24.780 the
00:35:25.060 old
00:35:25.360 wolf
00:35:25.720 cry
00:35:26.140 straining
00:35:27.400 after
00:35:27.740 the
00:35:28.000 food
00:35:28.340 that
00:35:28.520 was
00:35:28.680 alive
00:35:29.240 that
00:35:30.620 fled
00:35:31.080 swiftly
00:35:31.560 before
00:35:31.960 him
00:35:32.320 through
00:35:32.900 the
00:35:33.120 moonlight
00:35:33.500 he
00:35:34.760 was
00:35:35.020 sounding
00:35:35.480 the
00:35:35.820 deeps
00:35:36.260 of his
00:35:36.540 nature
00:35:37.020 and the
00:35:38.260 parts
00:35:38.600 of his
00:35:38.860 nature
00:35:39.460 that
00:35:40.420 were
00:35:40.580 deeper
00:35:40.980 than
00:35:41.260 he
00:35:41.680 going
00:35:42.920 back
00:35:43.500 into
00:35:44.200 the
00:35:44.460 womb
00:35:44.840 of
00:35:45.580 time
00:35:46.300 he
00:35:47.300 was
00:35:47.560 mastered
00:35:48.040 by
00:35:48.340 the
00:35:48.560 sheer
00:35:48.940 surging
00:35:49.920 of
00:35:50.140 life
00:35:50.580 the
00:35:51.600 tidal
00:35:52.800 wave
00:35:53.200 of
00:35:53.400 being
00:35:53.820 the
00:35:54.560 perfect
00:35:55.080 joy
00:35:55.700 of
00:35:56.360 each
00:35:56.600 separate
00:35:57.180 muscle
00:35:57.620 joint
00:35:58.180 and
00:35:58.400 sinew
00:35:58.940 and
00:35:59.640 it
00:35:59.780 was
00:35:59.940 everything
00:36:00.320 that
00:36:00.620 was
00:36:00.780 not
00:36:01.080 death
00:36:01.540 it
00:36:02.360 was
00:36:02.540 a
00:36:02.720 glow
00:36:03.060 and
00:36:03.300 rampant
00:36:03.880 expressing
00:36:04.960 itself
00:36:05.480 in
00:36:05.700 movement
00:36:06.140 flying
00:36:07.300 exultantly
00:36:08.300 under
00:36:09.020 the
00:36:09.200 stars
00:36:09.880 and
00:36:10.720 over
00:36:10.920 the
00:36:11.120 face
00:36:11.460 of
00:36:11.660 dead
00:36:11.880 matter
00:36:12.300 that
00:36:12.960 did
00:36:13.220 not
00:36:13.580 move
00:36:14.120 I
00:36:15.440 think
00:36:15.720 that's
00:36:17.120 poetry
00:36:17.600 there
00:36:18.120 and
00:36:19.200 it's
00:36:19.600 interesting
00:36:19.980 that he
00:36:20.400 talks
00:36:20.800 about
00:36:21.180 that
00:36:21.540 I
00:36:22.080 quote
00:36:23.940 it
00:36:24.280 in
00:36:25.220 my
00:36:25.980 biography
00:36:26.580 in
00:36:27.520 terms
00:36:27.880 of
00:36:28.100 Jack's
00:36:28.540 own
00:36:28.860 ecstasy
00:36:31.100 in
00:36:32.160 writing
00:36:33.740 you know
00:36:34.300 I mean
00:36:35.100 he had
00:36:35.620 passion
00:36:36.740 that
00:36:37.620 I
00:36:37.860 think
00:36:38.180 enabled
00:36:40.420 him
00:36:40.760 to
00:36:41.000 write
00:36:41.480 some
00:36:41.760 of
00:36:41.880 his
00:36:42.000 best
00:36:42.300 work
00:36:42.640 there
00:36:42.980 I
00:36:43.820 think
00:36:44.040 more
00:36:44.280 than
00:36:44.520 one
00:36:45.100 writer
00:36:46.480 has
00:36:46.900 talked
00:36:47.220 about
00:36:47.560 being
00:36:47.860 a
00:36:48.060 kind
00:36:48.320 of
00:36:48.460 zone
00:36:49.040 when
00:36:49.720 you're
00:36:49.940 writing
00:36:50.400 we
00:36:51.520 had
00:36:51.760 a
00:36:51.940 visitor
00:36:52.280 on
00:36:52.680 campus
00:36:53.460 a few
00:36:53.740 years
00:36:54.080 ago
00:36:54.440 said
00:36:55.300 that
00:36:55.840 the
00:36:56.940 scientists
00:36:58.300 actually
00:36:58.840 measured
00:36:59.360 there's
00:37:00.180 an
00:37:00.300 increased
00:37:00.840 slight
00:37:01.260 increase
00:37:01.740 in
00:37:01.960 brain
00:37:02.300 temperature
00:37:02.840 when we
00:37:03.860 get
00:37:04.060 into
00:37:04.300 that
00:37:04.600 creative
00:37:05.140 zone
00:37:05.740 anyhow
00:37:06.600 let me
00:37:07.520 move
00:37:07.940 quickly
00:37:08.940 as
00:37:09.320 possible
00:37:09.860 to
00:37:11.140 the
00:37:11.420 seventh
00:37:11.940 chapter
00:37:12.900 the
00:37:13.980 sounding
00:37:14.460 of the
00:37:15.180 call
00:37:15.600 by the
00:37:17.740 way
00:37:17.900 seven
00:37:18.340 is the
00:37:18.800 most
00:37:19.060 significant
00:37:19.660 of
00:37:20.080 numbers
00:37:20.500 archetypally
00:37:21.420 speaking
00:37:22.080 signifying
00:37:23.580 the
00:37:23.920 completion
00:37:24.380 of a
00:37:24.780 cycle
00:37:25.180 and
00:37:25.460 some
00:37:26.080 other
00:37:26.320 things
00:37:26.840 and
00:37:27.860 what
00:37:28.480 has
00:37:28.720 begun
00:37:29.360 up to
00:37:30.200 this
00:37:30.460 point
00:37:30.820 very
00:37:31.540 matter
00:37:31.920 factly
00:37:32.600 note
00:37:33.660 how
00:37:34.160 the
00:37:34.420 language
00:37:35.080 changes
00:37:36.200 at the
00:37:36.680 very
00:37:36.880 beginning
00:37:37.400 of
00:37:38.300 this
00:37:38.560 seventh
00:37:39.020 chapter
00:37:39.620 when
00:37:41.380 book
00:37:41.760 earned
00:37:42.720 sixteen
00:37:43.220 hundred
00:37:43.680 dollars
00:37:44.280 in
00:37:44.660 five
00:37:45.060 minutes
00:37:45.440 for
00:37:45.700 John
00:37:46.080 Thornton
00:37:46.640 he
00:37:47.700 made
00:37:48.000 it
00:37:48.180 possible
00:37:48.620 for
00:37:48.980 his
00:37:49.160 master
00:37:49.560 to
00:37:49.840 pay
00:37:50.480 off
00:37:50.740 certain
00:37:51.260 debts
00:37:51.820 and
00:37:52.800 the
00:37:53.020 journey
00:37:53.460 with
00:37:54.200 his
00:37:54.420 partners
00:37:54.920 that's
00:37:56.300 pretty
00:37:56.500 matter
00:37:56.820 of
00:37:57.020 fact
00:37:57.280 but
00:37:57.500 note
00:37:57.760 what
00:37:57.980 happens
00:37:58.320 here
00:37:58.600 journey
00:37:59.780 into
00:38:00.200 the
00:38:00.500 east
00:38:01.100 that's
00:38:02.000 capitalized
00:38:02.600 after
00:38:03.880 a
00:38:04.200 fabled
00:38:04.840 lost
00:38:05.640 mine
00:38:06.120 the
00:38:06.880 history
00:38:07.240 of
00:38:07.500 which
00:38:07.820 was
00:38:08.520 as
00:38:08.720 old
00:38:09.140 as
00:38:09.300 the
00:38:09.460 history
00:38:09.860 of
00:38:10.060 the
00:38:10.180 country
00:38:10.640 many
00:38:11.800 men
00:38:12.120 had
00:38:12.340 sought
00:38:12.680 it
00:38:12.900 few
00:38:14.100 had
00:38:14.340 found
00:38:14.700 it
00:38:15.680 and
00:38:15.940 even
00:38:16.280 more
00:38:16.780 than
00:38:16.980 few
00:38:17.340 there
00:38:17.580 were
00:38:17.940 who
00:38:18.720 had
00:38:18.940 never
00:38:19.320 returned
00:38:20.060 from
00:38:21.100 the
00:38:21.400 quest
00:38:22.060 this
00:38:23.700 lost
00:38:24.060 mine
00:38:24.400 was
00:38:24.640 steeped
00:38:25.200 in
00:38:25.380 tragedy
00:38:26.040 and
00:38:27.480 shrouded
00:38:28.500 in
00:38:29.540 mystery
00:38:30.160 no
00:38:31.560 one
00:38:31.880 knew
00:38:32.080 the
00:38:32.340 first
00:38:32.680 man
00:38:33.140 and
00:38:34.040 the
00:38:34.180 oldest
00:38:34.460 tradition
00:38:35.080 before
00:38:35.520 he
00:38:35.740 got
00:38:35.940 anyhow
00:38:38.000 I'm
00:38:38.240 going
00:38:38.360 to
00:38:38.440 stop
00:38:38.780 and
00:38:38.940 move
00:38:39.160 down
00:38:39.460 a ways
00:38:40.000 look
00:38:40.820 at
00:38:40.940 those
00:38:41.200 keywords
00:38:42.040 like
00:38:42.480 fabled
00:38:43.700 and
00:38:44.040 tragedy
00:38:45.520 mystery
00:38:46.200 that
00:38:47.160 indicate
00:38:48.020 we're
00:38:48.340 in a
00:38:48.580 different
00:38:48.820 world
00:38:49.220 now
00:38:49.660 we're
00:38:50.200 moving
00:38:50.440 into
00:38:50.660 a
00:38:50.840 kind
00:38:51.060 of
00:38:51.400 supernatural
00:38:52.280 world
00:38:53.080 and
00:38:54.240 note
00:38:54.600 at
00:38:54.860 the
00:38:55.040 bottom
00:38:55.340 of
00:38:56.240 that
00:38:56.480 page
00:38:57.280 the
00:38:58.300 months
00:38:58.700 came
00:38:59.080 and
00:38:59.300 went
00:38:59.660 back
00:39:00.740 and
00:39:00.960 forth
00:39:01.300 they
00:39:01.520 twisted
00:39:01.940 through
00:39:02.880 the
00:39:03.120 uncharted
00:39:03.720 vastness
00:39:04.520 where
00:39:05.400 no
00:39:05.700 men
00:39:06.080 were
00:39:06.400 and
00:39:06.600 yet
00:39:06.820 where
00:39:07.100 men
00:39:07.500 had
00:39:08.160 been
00:39:08.540 if
00:39:09.200 the
00:39:09.380 lost
00:39:09.680 cabin
00:39:10.080 were
00:39:10.340 true
00:39:10.820 they
00:39:11.860 went
00:39:12.080 across
00:39:12.600 divides
00:39:13.400 in
00:39:14.140 summer
00:39:14.640 blizzards
00:39:15.460 shivered
00:39:16.700 under
00:39:16.880 the
00:39:17.100 midnight
00:39:17.440 sun
00:39:18.140 on
00:39:18.780 naked
00:39:19.140 mountains
00:39:19.840 between
00:39:20.740 the
00:39:21.040 timberline
00:39:21.820 and
00:39:22.920 eternal
00:39:23.640 snows
00:39:24.520 dropped
00:39:25.900 into
00:39:26.500 summer
00:39:28.040 valleys
00:39:28.920 amid
00:39:29.960 swarming
00:39:30.700 gnats
00:39:31.560 and
00:39:31.800 flies
00:39:32.400 and
00:39:33.280 in
00:39:33.440 the
00:39:33.640 shadows
00:39:34.080 of
00:39:34.360 glaciers
00:39:35.040 picked
00:39:35.820 strawberries
00:39:36.440 and flowers
00:39:37.200 as ripe
00:39:37.840 and fair
00:39:39.080 as any
00:39:39.460 of the
00:39:39.740 southland
00:39:40.260 could boast
00:39:40.900 in
00:39:41.980 the
00:39:42.180 fall
00:39:42.480 of the
00:39:42.760 year
00:39:43.060 they
00:39:43.780 penetrated
00:39:44.520 a weird
00:39:45.260 lake
00:39:46.060 country
00:39:46.680 sad
00:39:47.920 and
00:39:48.300 silent
00:39:49.040 where
00:39:49.880 wild
00:39:50.380 fowl
00:39:51.200 had
00:39:52.440 been
00:39:52.860 but
00:39:53.500 where
00:39:53.920 then
00:39:54.740 there
00:39:55.020 was
00:39:55.900 no
00:39:56.180 life
00:39:56.680 nor
00:39:57.600 sign
00:39:58.060 of
00:39:58.240 life
00:39:58.620 only
00:39:59.720 the
00:39:59.940 blowing
00:40:00.300 of
00:40:00.580 chill
00:40:00.920 winds
00:40:01.620 the
00:40:02.380 forming
00:40:02.780 of
00:40:03.020 ice
00:40:03.400 in
00:40:03.640 sheltered
00:40:04.360 places
00:40:05.000 and
00:40:06.160 the
00:40:06.340 melancholy
00:40:07.160 rippling
00:40:08.300 of
00:40:09.000 waves
00:40:09.620 on
00:40:10.360 lonely
00:40:10.860 beaches
00:40:11.600 that's
00:40:13.100 poetry
00:40:13.460 again
00:40:14.000 but
00:40:14.560 here's
00:40:15.200 the point
00:40:15.700 that I
00:40:16.120 wanted
00:40:17.000 to make
00:40:17.540 stop
00:40:18.960 and think
00:40:19.660 what
00:40:20.520 these
00:40:20.840 guys
00:40:21.320 have
00:40:21.520 been
00:40:21.720 through
00:40:22.100 and
00:40:23.000 what
00:40:23.240 they
00:40:23.440 must
00:40:23.740 look
00:40:24.040 like
00:40:24.500 be
00:40:25.260 interested
00:40:25.580 in
00:40:25.840 seeing
00:40:26.220 what
00:40:27.340 Harrison
00:40:28.180 Ford
00:40:28.660 and his
00:40:29.100 partners
00:40:30.060 look like
00:40:30.720 in the
00:40:31.080 movie
00:40:32.080 there
00:40:32.560 they got
00:40:33.460 to be
00:40:33.700 pretty
00:40:33.980 tough
00:40:34.380 hombres
00:40:34.800 to
00:40:35.840 survive
00:40:36.420 what
00:40:36.840 they
00:40:37.060 do
00:40:37.300 up
00:40:37.540 there
00:40:37.900 you
00:40:38.460 can
00:40:38.660 imagine
00:40:39.220 they
00:40:40.600 would
00:40:40.920 if
00:40:41.560 they
00:40:41.720 see
00:40:41.960 some
00:40:42.200 wild
00:40:42.480 strawberries
00:40:43.140 out
00:40:43.460 there
00:40:43.640 they
00:40:44.360 haven't
00:40:44.540 eaten
00:40:44.700 anything
00:40:45.120 except
00:40:45.480 probably
00:40:46.340 pemmican
00:40:47.360 or dried
00:40:48.000 beef
00:40:48.340 or something
00:40:48.820 for a
00:40:49.180 good
00:40:49.340 while
00:40:49.800 jerky
00:40:50.560 or
00:40:50.760 whatever
00:40:51.140 they
00:40:51.860 eat
00:40:52.120 some
00:40:52.340 strawberries
00:40:52.760 but
00:40:53.720 they're
00:40:54.000 picking
00:40:54.360 flowers
00:40:55.160 it
00:40:56.200 just
00:40:56.460 doesn't
00:40:56.920 fit
00:40:57.240 does
00:40:57.580 it
00:40:57.800 but
00:40:58.660 you
00:40:58.800 don't
00:40:59.060 notice
00:40:59.420 because
00:40:59.800 he's
00:41:00.120 woven
00:41:00.420 this
00:41:00.800 thing
00:41:01.520 so
00:41:02.080 well
00:41:02.640 in
00:41:03.720 terms
00:41:04.040 of
00:41:04.220 describing
00:41:04.820 you
00:41:05.260 don't
00:41:05.480 stumble
00:41:05.900 over
00:41:06.160 that
00:41:06.380 at
00:41:06.540 all
00:41:06.940 and
00:41:07.880 I'm
00:41:08.140 talking
00:41:08.320 this
00:41:08.580 an
00:41:09.260 instance
00:41:09.700 of
00:41:09.980 London's
00:41:10.700 literary
00:41:11.240 artistry
00:41:12.000 and the
00:41:12.240 way
00:41:12.440 he
00:41:13.020 weaves
00:41:13.460 these
00:41:13.720 moods
00:41:14.160 for
00:41:14.420 you
00:41:14.640 so I
00:41:15.360 just
00:41:15.580 want
00:41:15.800 to
00:41:15.920 point
00:41:16.180 that
00:41:16.380 out
00:41:16.640 in
00:41:18.340 So the
00:41:19.740 relationship
00:41:20.280 between
00:41:20.720 man
00:41:21.140 and
00:41:21.340 nature
00:41:21.640 that
00:41:21.900 Jack
00:41:22.260 experienced
00:41:22.940 in the
00:41:23.180 Klondike
00:41:23.660 was more
00:41:24.100 adversarial
00:41:24.940 but he
00:41:25.900 also
00:41:26.240 experienced
00:41:26.880 a different
00:41:27.540 relationship
00:41:28.080 between
00:41:28.460 man
00:41:28.760 and
00:41:28.880 nature
00:41:29.180 through
00:41:30.000 his
00:41:30.200 work
00:41:30.480 on his
00:41:30.800 beauty
00:41:31.060 ranch
00:41:31.500 in
00:41:31.720 Glen Ellyn
00:41:32.220 California
00:41:32.760 where he
00:41:33.780 was a
00:41:34.100 pioneer
00:41:34.440 in
00:41:34.880 organic
00:41:35.320 farming
00:41:35.700 and he
00:41:36.420 tried
00:41:36.720 to make
00:41:37.100 what was
00:41:37.480 worn out
00:41:38.020 land
00:41:38.420 fruitful
00:41:39.220 again
00:41:39.620 what books
00:41:40.720 did Jack
00:41:41.180 write about
00:41:41.700 his ranching
00:41:42.480 and farming
00:41:42.860 experience
00:41:43.560 three
00:41:44.460 novels
00:41:45.260 particularly
00:41:45.980 the first
00:41:47.360 was
00:41:47.600 Burning
00:41:48.020 Daylight
00:41:48.780 and the
00:41:50.280 second
00:41:50.600 was
00:41:51.120 Valley
00:41:51.580 of the
00:41:51.920 Moon
00:41:52.160 that's
00:41:52.540 his
00:41:52.680 longest
00:41:53.040 novel
00:41:53.580 and the
00:41:54.720 third
00:41:54.960 was
00:41:55.180 Little Lady
00:41:55.640 of the
00:41:55.860 Big
00:41:56.080 House
00:41:56.560 Burning
00:41:57.820 Daylight
00:41:58.420 I think
00:41:58.840 is
00:41:59.000 the most
00:42:00.200 neglected
00:42:00.800 novel
00:42:01.340 I like
00:42:02.060 it
00:42:02.300 as far
00:42:03.200 as I
00:42:03.540 know
00:42:03.800 Brad
00:42:04.120 it's
00:42:04.380 the only
00:42:05.000 novel
00:42:06.060 in which
00:42:06.660 the
00:42:07.080 major
00:42:08.220 character
00:42:09.020 epitomizes
00:42:10.540 all three
00:42:11.360 American
00:42:12.760 archetypal
00:42:13.500 heroes
00:42:14.200 the hero
00:42:15.280 as
00:42:15.520 frontiersman
00:42:16.520 the hero
00:42:17.600 as
00:42:18.060 businessman
00:42:19.520 the hero
00:42:20.280 as yeoman
00:42:20.880 farmer
00:42:21.440 all in
00:42:22.280 one
00:42:22.560 character
00:42:23.120 and it's
00:42:23.920 I think
00:42:25.700 it's
00:42:25.920 amusing
00:42:26.720 I'm not
00:42:27.840 saying it's
00:42:28.300 one of his
00:42:28.680 great novels
00:42:29.420 but it's
00:42:30.380 fun to read
00:42:31.300 to see
00:42:32.040 what he
00:42:32.400 does
00:42:32.780 so
00:42:33.380 in these
00:42:34.200 agrarian
00:42:34.820 stories
00:42:35.460 was there
00:42:36.980 did Jack
00:42:37.540 London develop
00:42:38.160 a code
00:42:38.680 similar to
00:42:39.400 the Northland
00:42:39.980 code
00:42:40.300 that someone
00:42:40.860 had to
00:42:41.180 live by
00:42:41.780 in order
00:42:42.520 to thrive
00:42:43.340 as a
00:42:44.180 farmer
00:42:44.500 I think
00:42:45.280 so
00:42:45.680 in other
00:42:46.160 words
00:42:46.460 in terms
00:42:47.380 of
00:42:47.740 camaraderie
00:42:48.720 decency
00:42:49.320 honesty
00:42:50.000 but
00:42:50.840 love of
00:42:51.980 land
00:42:52.300 here
00:42:52.580 has an
00:42:53.760 interesting
00:42:54.320 story
00:42:55.680 his first
00:42:56.420 story
00:42:56.920 that he
00:42:57.280 wrote
00:42:57.560 after moving
00:42:58.280 into the
00:42:58.880 Valley of
00:42:59.320 the Moon
00:42:59.780 1905
00:43:01.540 or so
00:43:02.100 all
00:43:03.140 gold
00:43:03.500 canyon
00:43:04.040 and you've
00:43:05.620 got this
00:43:06.140 character
00:43:06.840 Bill
00:43:08.280 who is
00:43:09.360 a
00:43:09.860 prospector
00:43:10.800 on some
00:43:11.960 place
00:43:12.440 like
00:43:12.880 the
00:43:13.740 ranch
00:43:14.120 down
00:43:14.500 there
00:43:14.820 prospecting
00:43:15.620 for gold
00:43:16.360 and he
00:43:17.320 finds this
00:43:18.140 big
00:43:19.340 gold
00:43:20.440 pocket
00:43:21.000 and
00:43:21.760 desecrates
00:43:22.600 the hillside
00:43:23.940 to get
00:43:24.700 the gold
00:43:25.420 and the
00:43:26.100 process
00:43:26.820 almost gets
00:43:28.180 killed by
00:43:28.920 a stranger
00:43:29.520 that's
00:43:30.120 been watched
00:43:31.120 him
00:43:31.420 until he
00:43:33.080 uncovers
00:43:34.440 the gold
00:43:35.020 and comes
00:43:35.580 up and
00:43:35.960 shoots him
00:43:36.520 fortunately
00:43:37.440 he manages
00:43:38.320 to survive
00:43:39.900 but
00:43:40.940 you've
00:43:42.060 got
00:43:42.320 something
00:43:43.380 of the
00:43:44.060 Northland
00:43:45.340 type
00:43:45.900 coming down
00:43:46.640 there
00:43:46.940 not loving
00:43:48.400 the land
00:43:49.100 you see
00:43:49.700 but desecrating
00:43:51.240 that beautiful
00:43:52.040 place
00:43:52.720 so there's a
00:43:53.680 message there
00:43:54.340 that Jack
00:43:54.940 is trying
00:43:55.440 to convey
00:43:56.100 that he's
00:43:57.260 getting
00:43:57.680 the same
00:43:58.700 attitude
00:43:59.240 in terms
00:44:00.600 of
00:44:00.880 treatment
00:44:01.820 of nature
00:44:02.600 doesn't
00:44:03.800 work
00:44:04.260 in the
00:44:05.380 pastoral
00:44:06.300 garden
00:44:07.320 or
00:44:08.300 wilderness
00:44:09.200 the way
00:44:09.720 it did
00:44:10.020 up
00:44:10.320 in the
00:44:11.160 frozen
00:44:11.880 Northland
00:44:12.720 but in
00:44:13.520 terms of
00:44:14.060 the spirit
00:44:14.720 camaraderie
00:44:15.640 decency
00:44:16.280 honesty
00:44:17.380 love of
00:44:18.620 man
00:44:19.660 and what
00:44:20.100 have you
00:44:20.680 it's
00:44:22.100 essentially
00:44:22.760 the same
00:44:23.640 incidentally
00:44:25.000 we might
00:44:25.480 mention
00:44:25.960 that
00:44:26.400 London's
00:44:27.660 attitude
00:44:28.100 toward
00:44:28.480 women
00:44:28.960 changed
00:44:29.820 significantly
00:44:31.240 after
00:44:32.280 meeting
00:44:32.700 Charmin
00:44:33.280 from
00:44:34.360 what it
00:44:35.140 was
00:44:35.420 in the
00:44:35.720 early
00:44:36.040 stuff
00:44:36.640 if you
00:44:37.340 want to
00:44:37.580 talk
00:44:37.800 about
00:44:38.040 that
00:44:38.360 at some
00:44:38.620 point
00:44:38.820 let's
00:44:39.020 talk
00:44:39.220 about
00:44:39.500 that
00:44:39.720 right
00:44:39.900 now
00:44:40.100 so
00:44:40.360 yeah
00:44:40.900 he was
00:44:41.780 married
00:44:42.020 twice
00:44:42.540 his first
00:44:43.700 wife
00:44:44.120 they separated
00:44:45.480 right
00:44:46.120 and then he
00:44:46.840 met
00:44:47.100 Charmin
00:44:47.560 tell us
00:44:48.380 about their
00:44:48.800 relationship
00:44:49.360 and how
00:44:49.700 it influenced
00:44:50.400 his writing
00:44:51.160 he
00:44:51.880 married
00:44:53.020 Bessie
00:44:53.620 Madden
00:44:54.080 for the
00:44:54.500 wrong
00:44:54.840 reasons
00:44:55.500 and has
00:44:56.640 a terrible
00:44:57.240 mistake
00:44:57.840 for everybody
00:44:58.600 and
00:44:58.860 I mean
00:44:59.880 we're still
00:45:00.420 paying
00:45:00.780 the price
00:45:01.360 in terms
00:45:01.900 of the
00:45:02.260 damage
00:45:02.720 to the
00:45:03.280 folks
00:45:03.960 to the
00:45:04.340 offspring
00:45:04.840 all that
00:45:06.840 it's so
00:45:07.540 sad
00:45:08.040 at first
00:45:09.060 neither of
00:45:09.620 them really
00:45:09.940 loved each
00:45:10.560 other
00:45:10.780 it was a
00:45:11.180 marriage
00:45:11.420 of convenience
00:45:12.000 she just
00:45:12.600 lost her
00:45:13.200 fiance
00:45:13.780 Fred Jacobs
00:45:15.680 to
00:45:17.080 I think
00:45:18.400 some kind
00:45:18.940 of ailment
00:45:19.480 when he
00:45:19.840 was on a
00:45:20.920 troop ship
00:45:21.420 going to
00:45:21.920 the Philippines
00:45:22.660 I've
00:45:23.580 forgotten
00:45:23.840 now what
00:45:24.360 he was
00:45:25.000 suffering
00:45:25.360 from
00:45:25.820 but
00:45:26.900 they'd
00:45:29.100 been
00:45:29.260 friends
00:45:29.680 for years
00:45:30.440 and he
00:45:31.340 felt
00:45:31.720 well I
00:45:32.180 need to
00:45:32.520 get married
00:45:33.020 to settle
00:45:33.460 down
00:45:33.960 and have
00:45:35.020 a good
00:45:37.080 mother for
00:45:38.340 seven
00:45:39.420 Anglo-Saxon
00:45:40.640 sons or
00:45:41.360 whatever
00:45:41.860 turned out
00:45:43.500 that Bessie
00:45:44.400 did love
00:45:47.140 him but
00:45:47.740 he never
00:45:49.020 really loved
00:45:49.800 her
00:45:50.180 they had
00:45:50.940 two daughters
00:45:51.840 meanwhile
00:45:53.280 he's having
00:45:54.160 a kind
00:45:54.600 of affair
00:45:55.260 with
00:45:56.760 Anna Strunsky
00:45:57.880 I mean
00:45:58.980 never
00:45:59.340 consummated
00:46:00.380 but
00:46:00.740 in terms
00:46:01.680 of
00:46:02.100 somebody
00:46:03.700 he could
00:46:04.220 relate to
00:46:05.060 intellectually
00:46:06.220 and personally
00:46:07.420 more closely
00:46:08.860 than he could
00:46:09.440 with Bessie
00:46:10.200 he was a
00:46:11.620 party guy
00:46:12.300 he loved
00:46:12.880 fun
00:46:13.440 and loved
00:46:14.380 crowds
00:46:15.100 and what
00:46:15.600 have you
00:46:16.140 and loved
00:46:17.100 to entertain
00:46:17.540 people
00:46:18.220 and Bessie
00:46:19.240 didn't like
00:46:19.820 that at all
00:46:20.660 so
00:46:21.800 they were
00:46:22.860 just not
00:46:23.380 compatible
00:46:24.060 and finally
00:46:25.600 I guess it
00:46:26.900 was summer
00:46:27.520 of 1903
00:46:29.340 or so
00:46:30.080 he fell in
00:46:31.360 love with
00:46:31.820 Charmian
00:46:32.400 and madly
00:46:34.020 literally
00:46:34.560 madly in
00:46:35.400 love
00:46:35.600 if you read
00:46:36.040 my biography
00:46:37.220 you'll see
00:46:37.680 some of those
00:46:38.240 early love
00:46:39.300 letters
00:46:39.740 were just
00:46:40.520 absolutely
00:46:42.180 beside
00:46:42.700 himself
00:46:43.600 he never
00:46:44.140 met a woman
00:46:44.860 quite like
00:46:45.700 that
00:46:45.940 I wish
00:46:46.760 I had
00:46:47.080 in handy
00:46:47.500 I could
00:46:47.840 describe her
00:46:48.580 she was
00:46:49.480 the new
00:46:50.040 woman
00:46:50.460 in many
00:46:50.980 ways
00:46:51.580 she was
00:46:53.400 very feminine
00:46:54.140 but at the
00:46:54.560 same time
00:46:55.880 she was
00:46:56.380 tough
00:46:56.820 she had
00:46:58.200 a will
00:46:58.620 of her own
00:46:59.300 but she
00:47:00.160 was smart
00:47:01.400 enough
00:47:01.800 to know
00:47:02.220 how to
00:47:02.540 get along
00:47:03.080 with them
00:47:03.660 and
00:47:04.740 she was
00:47:05.800 very attractive
00:47:06.800 which doesn't
00:47:07.460 come out
00:47:07.800 in her
00:47:08.020 pictures
00:47:08.440 Milo
00:47:09.360 Shepard
00:47:10.020 Jack London
00:47:11.020 was a
00:47:11.580 great nephew
00:47:12.260 knew her
00:47:13.580 very well
00:47:14.300 for many
00:47:14.820 years
00:47:15.360 and
00:47:16.600 had
00:47:17.320 tremendous
00:47:17.900 admiration
00:47:18.580 for her
00:47:19.360 he said
00:47:20.300 even when
00:47:20.820 she was
00:47:21.260 in her
00:47:21.620 60s
00:47:22.340 she could
00:47:23.200 turn men's
00:47:23.940 heads
00:47:24.200 when she
00:47:24.600 walked
00:47:24.940 into a
00:47:25.440 room
00:47:25.820 so
00:47:26.700 charming
00:47:27.240 was
00:47:27.480 something
00:47:27.780 special
00:47:28.360 and
00:47:29.240 that
00:47:30.040 is from
00:47:30.600 her
00:47:30.980 that he
00:47:31.540 evolved
00:47:32.480 the idea
00:47:33.220 of the
00:47:33.540 mate
00:47:33.800 woman
00:47:34.220 not just
00:47:35.560 in any
00:47:37.000 kind of
00:47:37.800 animalistic
00:47:38.940 sense
00:47:39.360 or whatever
00:47:39.880 but a
00:47:40.680 true mate
00:47:41.300 in terms
00:47:41.940 of an
00:47:42.680 equal
00:47:43.020 in many
00:47:43.820 risks
00:47:44.240 in many
00:47:45.000 respects
00:47:45.700 and
00:47:46.840 loved
00:47:47.620 her
00:47:47.880 until
00:47:48.180 the day
00:47:48.640 he died
00:47:49.300 and she
00:47:50.520 loved him
00:47:51.100 of course
00:47:51.780 and to tell you
00:47:52.900 speak of being
00:47:53.800 attractive
00:47:54.420 Houdini
00:47:55.520 had an affair
00:47:57.900 with her
00:47:58.380 after his
00:47:59.300 death
00:47:59.680 wanted to
00:48:00.160 marry her
00:48:00.800 but she
00:48:01.840 didn't want
00:48:02.300 to marry
00:48:02.660 Houdini
00:48:03.240 in fact
00:48:04.280 she didn't
00:48:05.040 want to
00:48:05.720 marry anybody
00:48:06.460 after Jack
00:48:07.380 I guess
00:48:08.040 yeah
00:48:08.900 this idea
00:48:09.480 of
00:48:09.680 mate
00:48:09.880 woman
00:48:10.180 like
00:48:10.420 they
00:48:10.540 called
00:48:10.800 each
00:48:11.000 other
00:48:11.200 mate
00:48:11.540 and
00:48:12.280 how
00:48:12.960 do
00:48:13.100 you
00:48:13.200 see
00:48:13.360 this
00:48:13.540 idea
00:48:13.840 of
00:48:14.140 the
00:48:14.720 mate
00:48:14.940 woman
00:48:15.280 does it
00:48:16.340 come up
00:48:16.860 in
00:48:17.100 London's
00:48:18.020 literature
00:48:18.580 and his
00:48:19.000 stories
00:48:19.280 yeah
00:48:19.640 it comes
00:48:20.780 up
00:48:21.260 let's
00:48:22.800 say
00:48:23.140 I think
00:48:24.160 in
00:48:24.460 burning
00:48:25.020 daylight
00:48:25.760 certainly
00:48:27.100 in one
00:48:28.140 sense
00:48:28.600 it comes
00:48:29.220 up
00:48:29.560 in
00:48:29.920 the
00:48:31.140 seawolf
00:48:32.220 with
00:48:33.120 Maud
00:48:33.480 Brewster
00:48:34.060 as his
00:48:35.540 mate
00:48:36.020 so
00:48:36.980 Maud
00:48:37.800 I think
00:48:39.060 may be
00:48:39.500 the first
00:48:40.100 character
00:48:40.760 in his
00:48:41.180 novels
00:48:41.680 based on
00:48:42.960 Charmian
00:48:43.660 so it's
00:48:44.880 certainly
00:48:45.200 there
00:48:45.780 and
00:48:46.780 at some
00:48:47.660 point
00:48:48.060 by the way
00:48:48.860 you mentioned
00:48:49.500 London's
00:48:50.280 concept
00:48:51.300 of masculinity
00:48:52.240 yeah
00:48:53.180 I think
00:48:54.220 that's
00:48:54.500 very important
00:48:55.340 there's
00:48:55.800 there's a
00:48:56.620 section
00:48:56.880 I'd like
00:48:57.260 to read
00:48:57.660 about that
00:48:58.180 pretty soon
00:48:58.800 but
00:48:59.040 let me
00:48:59.800 mention
00:49:00.340 characters
00:49:01.760 that
00:49:02.300 exemplify
00:49:03.600 masculinity
00:49:04.940 John
00:49:06.600 Thornton
00:49:07.180 of course
00:49:07.840 in the
00:49:08.880 call
00:49:09.140 a while
00:49:09.760 Whedon
00:49:10.860 Scott
00:49:11.380 in
00:49:12.020 White
00:49:12.420 Fang
00:49:12.920 and I
00:49:14.360 think
00:49:14.720 even
00:49:15.400 Humphrey
00:49:15.860 Van
00:49:16.200 Whedon
00:49:16.780 in
00:49:17.900 the
00:49:18.920 seawolf
00:49:19.600 it's
00:49:20.060 fascinating
00:49:20.720 particularly
00:49:21.640 in the
00:49:21.980 seawolf
00:49:22.480 because
00:49:22.920 Humphrey
00:49:23.700 is a
00:49:24.060 work in
00:49:24.560 progress
00:49:25.180 he comes
00:49:26.160 on board
00:49:26.840 the wolf
00:49:27.480 excuse me
00:49:28.280 wolf
00:49:28.640 larsenship
00:49:29.420 ghost
00:49:30.040 as a
00:49:31.000 kind of
00:49:31.360 neuter
00:49:31.740 a sissy
00:49:32.740 and
00:49:33.900 Larson
00:49:34.660 makes a
00:49:35.260 man out
00:49:35.960 of him
00:49:36.420 Larson
00:49:37.360 is too
00:49:37.740 much
00:49:38.060 of a
00:49:38.320 man
00:49:38.540 he's
00:49:38.820 there's
00:49:39.380 a section
00:49:39.960 in
00:49:40.360 the seawolf
00:49:41.780 where
00:49:42.100 Humphrey
00:49:43.200 is talking
00:49:43.700 about
00:49:44.020 these guys
00:49:44.860 they need
00:49:45.960 a little
00:49:46.380 influence
00:49:47.400 women
00:49:47.920 there
00:49:48.380 it's
00:49:48.700 their world
00:49:49.900 is
00:49:50.180 is warped
00:49:51.460 in a
00:49:52.060 sense
00:49:52.480 so
00:49:53.460 here is
00:49:54.420 Wolf
00:49:54.740 Larson
00:49:55.180 making
00:49:56.440 a man
00:49:57.540 in a
00:49:57.860 sense
00:49:58.140 giving
00:49:58.480 Humphrey
00:49:59.700 that
00:50:00.000 masculinity
00:50:00.760 but
00:50:01.780 he
00:50:01.940 needs
00:50:02.300 something
00:50:02.760 else
00:50:03.360 he
00:50:04.000 needs
00:50:04.260 that
00:50:04.500 feminine
00:50:04.960 touch
00:50:05.600 and
00:50:06.160 that's
00:50:06.480 where
00:50:06.780 Maude
00:50:07.940 Brewster
00:50:08.960 comes in
00:50:09.700 to make
00:50:10.460 him the
00:50:10.840 complete
00:50:11.380 man
00:50:12.140 and
00:50:13.100 there's
00:50:13.360 a section
00:50:13.900 even in
00:50:14.600 to the
00:50:15.300 man on
00:50:15.780 trail
00:50:16.240 I want
00:50:16.940 to read
00:50:17.360 to you
00:50:17.740 when we
00:50:18.060 get a
00:50:18.360 chance
00:50:18.800 shall I
00:50:19.720 do that
00:50:20.020 now
00:50:20.320 let's
00:50:20.620 do that
00:50:20.880 let's
00:50:21.000 talk
00:50:21.120 about
00:50:21.300 that
00:50:21.600 let's
00:50:21.880 do
00:50:22.000 that
00:50:22.260 all right
00:50:23.020 I'm back
00:50:23.460 to a
00:50:23.800 very early
00:50:24.440 story
00:50:25.120 the first
00:50:26.040 story
00:50:26.400 published
00:50:26.960 in the
00:50:27.580 Overland
00:50:28.340 Monthly
00:50:28.940 to the
00:50:29.880 man
00:50:30.220 on
00:50:30.580 trail
00:50:31.080 by the
00:50:32.200 way
00:50:32.420 Malamute
00:50:33.100 kid
00:50:33.520 who's
00:50:33.840 the
00:50:33.980 kind
00:50:34.200 of
00:50:34.300 high
00:50:34.520 priest
00:50:34.940 of
00:50:35.120 the
00:50:35.260 Northland
00:50:35.760 code
00:50:36.280 is
00:50:36.960 another
00:50:37.240 example
00:50:37.860 of
00:50:38.760 the
00:50:39.180 true
00:50:40.320 man
00:50:40.700 or
00:50:40.840 whatever
00:50:41.160 and
00:50:41.880 in
00:50:42.060 this
00:50:42.300 story
00:50:42.800 he's
00:50:43.960 sort
00:50:44.220 of
00:50:44.380 our
00:50:44.740 he's
00:50:45.680 a
00:50:45.800 character
00:50:46.080 we
00:50:46.320 see
00:50:46.760 the
00:50:47.260 events
00:50:47.600 on
00:50:47.880 through
00:50:48.500 whose
00:50:48.840 eyes
00:50:49.140 we see
00:50:49.560 the
00:50:49.760 events
00:50:50.100 unfold
00:50:50.800 areas
00:50:52.860 the
00:50:53.440 talk
00:50:53.980 soon
00:50:55.440 became
00:50:55.860 impersonal
00:50:57.080 harking
00:50:57.580 back
00:50:57.880 to the
00:50:58.240 trails
00:50:58.660 of
00:50:58.940 childhood
00:50:59.540 as
00:51:01.340 the
00:51:01.560 younger
00:51:02.040 a
00:51:02.500 young
00:51:02.740 stranger
00:51:03.420 ate
00:51:04.360 of
00:51:04.540 the
00:51:04.720 rude
00:51:05.000 fair
00:51:05.500 by the
00:51:07.180 way
00:51:07.300 this
00:51:07.520 is
00:51:07.620 a
00:51:07.740 man
00:51:07.980 named
00:51:08.240 Jack
00:51:08.600 Westendale
00:51:09.380 who's
00:51:09.740 just
00:51:09.980 come
00:51:10.820 in
00:51:11.040 as
00:51:11.420 a
00:51:11.560 man
00:51:11.860 on
00:51:12.480 trail
00:51:12.900 to
00:51:13.440 join
00:51:13.740 the
00:51:13.940 group
00:51:14.240 incidentally
00:51:15.020 this
00:51:15.220 is
00:51:15.320 a
00:51:15.440 Christmas
00:51:15.780 party
00:51:16.200 that's
00:51:16.500 going
00:51:16.740 on
00:51:17.040 in
00:51:17.200 this
00:51:17.420 story
00:51:17.840 interesting
00:51:18.360 Christmas
00:51:19.160 party
00:51:19.720 Malibu
00:51:22.100 kid
00:51:22.580 attentively
00:51:23.980 attentively
00:51:24.920 studied
00:51:25.480 his
00:51:25.960 face
00:51:26.600 nor
00:51:28.060 was he
00:51:28.580 long
00:51:28.960 in
00:51:29.140 deciding
00:51:29.700 that
00:51:30.100 it
00:51:30.600 was
00:51:30.820 fair
00:51:31.440 honest
00:51:32.760 and
00:51:33.380 open
00:51:33.960 that
00:51:34.940 he
00:51:35.100 liked
00:51:35.500 it
00:51:35.780 still
00:51:37.020 youthful
00:51:37.700 the
00:51:38.660 lines
00:51:39.100 had
00:51:39.240 been
00:51:39.400 firmly
00:51:39.820 traced
00:51:40.500 by
00:51:41.300 toil
00:51:41.840 and
00:51:42.480 hardship
00:51:43.220 though
00:51:44.560 genial
00:51:45.100 in
00:51:45.460 conversation
00:51:46.300 and
00:51:47.460 mild
00:51:48.000 when
00:51:48.300 at
00:51:48.480 rest
00:51:49.020 the
00:51:50.200 blue
00:51:50.500 eyes
00:51:51.060 gave
00:51:51.380 promise
00:51:52.060 the
00:51:53.460 hard
00:51:54.020 steel
00:51:55.780 glitter
00:51:56.640 that
00:51:58.160 comes
00:51:58.700 when
00:51:59.880 called
00:52:00.500 into
00:52:00.860 action
00:52:01.500 especially
00:52:02.660 against
00:52:03.700 odds
00:52:04.500 the
00:52:05.820 heavy
00:52:06.120 jaw
00:52:06.580 and
00:52:06.840 square
00:52:07.440 cut
00:52:08.140 chin
00:52:08.640 demonstrated
00:52:09.980 rugged
00:52:11.720 pertinacity
00:52:13.040 and
00:52:13.920 indomitability
00:52:15.060 nor
00:52:16.000 though
00:52:16.360 the
00:52:16.620 attributes
00:52:17.320 of the
00:52:17.720 lion
00:52:18.160 were
00:52:18.480 there
00:52:18.920 was
00:52:19.800 there
00:52:20.080 wanting
00:52:20.720 a
00:52:21.640 certain
00:52:22.060 softness
00:52:23.060 the
00:52:24.180 hint
00:52:24.580 of
00:52:24.900 womanliness
00:52:25.640 which
00:52:28.040 bespoke
00:52:28.700 the
00:52:29.260 emotional
00:52:29.820 nature
00:52:30.420 so there
00:52:31.500 you've
00:52:31.880 got the
00:52:32.440 qualities
00:52:33.520 of both
00:52:34.460 sexes
00:52:35.760 in a
00:52:36.120 sense
00:52:36.540 both
00:52:37.160 accepted
00:52:38.400 qualities
00:52:39.080 of
00:52:39.380 masculinity
00:52:39.980 and
00:52:40.880 femininity
00:52:41.540 and one
00:52:42.600 character
00:52:43.160 without
00:52:44.020 having
00:52:44.880 the
00:52:45.080 kind
00:52:45.400 of
00:52:45.600 problem
00:52:46.620 that
00:52:46.860 you've
00:52:47.020 got
00:52:47.240 with
00:52:47.600 wolf
00:52:48.500 larsen
00:52:49.020 who
00:52:49.260 dies
00:52:49.880 I think
00:52:50.920 symbolically
00:52:52.060 as well
00:52:53.000 as literally
00:52:53.540 in the
00:52:54.020 sea
00:52:54.240 wolf
00:52:54.600 also
00:52:55.880 there's
00:52:56.480 a
00:52:56.780 section
00:52:57.440 that
00:52:58.660 Arnold
00:52:59.140 Genthe
00:52:59.540 talks
00:53:00.000 about
00:53:00.240 this
00:53:00.680 is
00:53:00.920 a
00:53:01.120 comment
00:53:02.080 by
00:53:02.660 famous
00:53:03.180 poetry
00:53:03.580 artist
00:53:04.060 Arnold
00:53:04.780 Genthe
00:53:05.360 described
00:53:06.740 London
00:53:07.440 as I say
00:53:08.840 most
00:53:09.200 accurately
00:53:09.760 quote
00:53:10.880 Jack
00:53:12.360 London
00:53:12.840 had a
00:53:14.100 poignantly
00:53:14.800 sensitive
00:53:15.960 face
00:53:16.720 his
00:53:17.340 were the
00:53:17.780 eyes
00:53:18.280 of a
00:53:18.820 dreamer
00:53:19.380 and there
00:53:20.280 was an
00:53:20.580 almost
00:53:21.100 feminine
00:53:22.200 wistfulness
00:53:23.440 about him
00:53:25.000 and yet
00:53:26.640 at the
00:53:27.020 same time
00:53:27.900 he gave
00:53:29.120 the feeling
00:53:29.800 of a
00:53:30.780 terrible
00:53:31.420 and
00:53:32.620 uncomfortable
00:53:33.580 physical
00:53:34.940 force
00:53:35.760 so I
00:53:37.480 think that
00:53:37.900 pretty well
00:53:38.580 describes
00:53:39.860 London
00:53:40.280 and his
00:53:41.080 idea of
00:53:41.780 the
00:53:41.980 masculinity
00:53:43.040 as well
00:53:44.020 well this
00:53:44.980 idea of
00:53:45.580 needing
00:53:45.940 masculine
00:53:46.600 and feminine
00:53:47.440 energies
00:53:47.940 combined
00:53:48.460 this sounds
00:53:49.220 like
00:53:49.440 Jung
00:53:49.760 the
00:53:50.280 psychologist
00:53:50.920 Carl
00:53:51.360 Jung
00:53:51.640 and you
00:53:52.220 talk about
00:53:52.760 this in
00:53:53.100 your
00:53:53.220 biography
00:53:53.620 that at
00:53:54.540 the end
00:53:54.640 of his
00:53:54.880 career
00:53:55.260 at the
00:53:55.920 end
00:53:56.020 of his
00:53:56.260 life
00:53:56.620 that's
00:53:57.060 when
00:53:57.220 London
00:53:57.640 discovered
00:53:58.660 Jung
00:53:58.940 in his
00:53:59.200 writings
00:53:59.580 and it
00:54:00.480 started to
00:54:00.820 give more
00:54:01.460 of an
00:54:01.680 esoteric
00:54:02.380 bent to
00:54:02.760 Jack's
00:54:03.080 thinking
00:54:03.360 whereas
00:54:03.700 formerly
00:54:04.460 he was
00:54:04.880 romantic
00:54:05.360 but he
00:54:05.960 was also
00:54:06.380 a
00:54:06.680 materialist
00:54:07.460 and you
00:54:08.240 make the
00:54:08.520 case that
00:54:08.940 we were
00:54:09.400 on the
00:54:09.740 cusp
00:54:10.160 of some
00:54:10.800 of
00:54:10.960 London's
00:54:11.340 greatest
00:54:11.640 work
00:54:12.080 with this
00:54:12.480 discovery
00:54:12.920 of
00:54:13.440 Jung
00:54:13.780 but you
00:54:14.980 also make
00:54:15.360 the case
00:54:15.720 that even
00:54:16.220 before
00:54:16.600 even in the
00:54:17.560 Klondike stories
00:54:18.320 you see
00:54:19.000 Jungian ideas
00:54:20.080 pop up
00:54:20.700 can you talk
00:54:21.960 can you talk
00:54:21.980 about Jung's
00:54:22.840 influence
00:54:23.260 on London's
00:54:24.020 work
00:54:24.340 and thought
00:54:24.880 it's
00:54:25.720 fascinating
00:54:26.140 to me
00:54:26.620 Brett
00:54:26.920 because
00:54:27.460 he's
00:54:28.740 got what
00:54:29.600 Jung
00:54:30.200 calls
00:54:30.780 the
00:54:31.480 primordial
00:54:32.240 vision
00:54:32.760 and the
00:54:33.780 stuff I
00:54:34.200 just read
00:54:34.860 for example
00:54:35.900 from the
00:54:36.840 Call of the
00:54:37.320 Wild
00:54:37.720 indicates
00:54:39.220 his sense
00:54:40.540 of being
00:54:41.440 tuned in
00:54:42.140 to myth
00:54:43.680 and what
00:54:44.420 have you
00:54:45.000 myth and
00:54:46.060 archetypes
00:54:46.840 without being
00:54:47.640 conscious of
00:54:48.380 it in fact
00:54:48.920 early reviewers
00:54:50.620 saw some
00:54:51.360 stuff in
00:54:52.020 the Call of the
00:54:52.980 Wild
00:54:53.300 that was
00:54:54.520 more than
00:54:55.320 just a
00:54:55.740 dog story
00:54:56.600 and he
00:54:58.140 said
00:54:58.420 well I
00:54:59.340 wasn't aware
00:54:59.960 of it
00:55:00.440 I didn't
00:55:01.080 intend it
00:55:01.820 but obviously
00:55:03.620 it was
00:55:04.100 there
00:55:04.480 and that's
00:55:05.220 the nature
00:55:05.720 of the
00:55:06.160 primordial
00:55:06.820 vision
00:55:07.380 when it's
00:55:09.000 at work
00:55:09.460 the writer
00:55:10.320 feels it
00:55:11.120 and writes
00:55:12.720 it
00:55:12.940 creates it
00:55:13.760 without being
00:55:14.740 fully aware
00:55:15.640 much of his
00:55:16.920 richest work
00:55:17.920 is informed
00:55:19.900 by what
00:55:21.980 Jung would
00:55:23.060 call archetypes
00:55:24.260 and myth
00:55:24.900 and what
00:55:25.240 have you
00:55:25.720 but what
00:55:26.560 happened
00:55:27.060 just a few
00:55:28.160 months before
00:55:28.780 he died
00:55:29.560 and he
00:55:30.280 got a
00:55:30.660 copy of
00:55:31.380 Beatrice
00:55:32.300 Hengel's
00:55:32.860 brand new
00:55:33.560 revision
00:55:34.920 or excuse
00:55:36.340 me not
00:55:36.840 revision
00:55:37.340 translation
00:55:38.200 of Jung's
00:55:39.940 theories
00:55:40.420 and he
00:55:41.760 started reading
00:55:42.780 that
00:55:43.300 and came
00:55:44.760 to his
00:55:45.220 wife
00:55:46.040 charm
00:55:46.440 and says
00:55:46.720 I'm
00:55:46.980 standing on
00:55:47.520 the edge
00:55:47.900 of a world
00:55:48.360 so new
00:55:49.280 and wonderful
00:55:49.900 and terrible
00:55:50.440 I'm almost
00:55:51.020 afraid look
00:55:51.660 over into
00:55:52.260 it
00:55:52.660 but that's
00:55:53.980 what he'd
00:55:54.340 been doing
00:55:54.800 all those
00:55:55.380 years
00:55:55.780 and of course
00:55:56.200 he did
00:55:56.620 look over
00:55:57.080 into it
00:55:57.760 and the
00:55:58.440 last few
00:55:58.980 stories
00:55:59.500 he wrote
00:56:00.120 he was
00:56:01.020 deliberately
00:56:01.980 employing
00:56:03.360 Jungian
00:56:03.800 theory
00:56:04.200 and of course
00:56:04.660 the final
00:56:05.240 story
00:56:05.760 the water
00:56:06.620 baby
00:56:07.020 which I
00:56:07.540 could quote
00:56:08.000 from in a
00:56:08.960 moment here
00:56:09.540 is obviously
00:56:10.800 Jungian
00:56:11.540 but one of
00:56:13.020 his richest
00:56:13.820 stories
00:56:14.620 the red
00:56:15.600 one
00:56:15.920 and I
00:56:18.180 thought
00:56:18.540 originally
00:56:19.180 since he
00:56:20.780 had written
00:56:21.240 that in
00:56:21.880 I think
00:56:22.840 May
00:56:23.480 1916
00:56:25.540 that was
00:56:26.860 the first
00:56:27.360 story he
00:56:28.060 wrote
00:56:28.440 after
00:56:28.920 discovering
00:56:30.240 Jung
00:56:30.880 because
00:56:31.700 there's
00:56:32.320 so much
00:56:32.900 there
00:56:33.320 that is
00:56:34.040 archetypal
00:56:34.960 and mythical
00:56:35.660 and is a
00:56:36.760 story I
00:56:37.260 recommend to
00:56:38.080 everybody
00:56:38.700 it's the
00:56:39.800 same motif
00:56:40.820 that
00:56:41.240 Kubrick
00:56:42.340 used in
00:56:43.300 2001
00:56:44.460 based on
00:56:45.760 Arthur C.
00:56:46.360 Clark's
00:56:46.860 story
00:56:47.180 The Sentinel
00:56:47.840 of course
00:56:49.360 Clark
00:56:49.960 co-wrote
00:56:51.200 2001
00:56:52.420 I think
00:56:53.080 with Kubrick
00:56:54.040 and one
00:56:55.100 of my
00:56:55.360 students
00:56:55.880 after reading
00:56:57.600 The Sentinel
00:56:58.160 in my
00:56:59.860 science fiction
00:57:00.540 class wrote
00:57:01.300 to Clark
00:57:02.640 and got
00:57:03.820 an answer
00:57:04.440 Mr. Clark
00:57:05.700 had you read
00:57:06.420 Jack London's
00:57:07.360 The Red
00:57:07.980 One and
00:57:08.380 Clark
00:57:08.720 actually answered
00:57:09.500 and said
00:57:09.860 no but I
00:57:10.740 wish I had
00:57:11.480 you know
00:57:12.060 because the
00:57:12.860 similarities
00:57:13.480 anyhow
00:57:14.780 I recommend
00:57:16.120 the story
00:57:17.120 for a number
00:57:18.200 of reasons
00:57:18.920 but I found
00:57:20.060 out that
00:57:20.960 London had
00:57:22.520 not read
00:57:23.420 Jung at
00:57:24.520 that time
00:57:25.100 so there's
00:57:26.380 the primordial
00:57:27.140 vision again
00:57:28.020 but it turns
00:57:29.160 out that
00:57:29.980 those
00:57:31.000 half dozen
00:57:32.620 I think
00:57:33.100 five or six
00:57:33.760 stories he
00:57:34.380 read based
00:57:35.300 on Jung
00:57:35.900 finally with
00:57:37.000 The Water
00:57:37.400 Baby
00:57:37.820 are clearly
00:57:39.460 based on
00:57:40.720 Jungian theory
00:57:41.540 and as far
00:57:42.080 as I know
00:57:42.600 London's the
00:57:43.520 first one
00:57:44.020 to do that
00:57:44.740 well let's
00:57:45.340 talk you said
00:57:45.800 you want to
00:57:46.140 read something
00:57:46.520 from The Water
00:57:47.080 Baby to give
00:57:47.660 us an idea
00:57:48.240 of this
00:57:49.080 want to go
00:57:49.500 ahead and do
00:57:49.780 that
00:57:50.000 it's a totally
00:57:51.360 different
00:57:51.680 have you read
00:57:52.380 it
00:57:52.500 I have not
00:57:53.040 no
00:57:53.320 it's a totally
00:57:54.380 different story
00:57:55.480 we're talking
00:57:56.800 now about
00:57:57.380 The Water
00:57:57.860 Baby
00:57:58.260 which is the
00:57:59.800 last story
00:58:00.660 Jack wrote
00:58:01.720 before he
00:58:02.400 died
00:58:02.860 it was
00:58:03.580 written just
00:58:04.440 a few months
00:58:05.200 I think
00:58:06.040 maybe a little
00:58:07.060 more than a
00:58:07.600 month before
00:58:08.160 his death
00:58:08.920 and
00:58:10.320 it's totally
00:58:11.840 different from
00:58:12.520 the other
00:58:13.020 earlier stuff
00:58:14.580 in that there's
00:58:15.200 almost no
00:58:16.020 action
00:58:16.580 mostly it's
00:58:17.800 dialogue
00:58:18.380 between
00:58:19.720 two men
00:58:21.080 a young
00:58:22.280 fellow named
00:58:23.320 John
00:58:24.440 Lacana
00:58:25.360 and that's
00:58:26.940 Jack London's
00:58:28.160 Hawaiian name
00:58:29.700 and an old
00:58:32.480 man named
00:58:33.460 Kohukumu
00:58:34.360 and that's
00:58:36.380 the Hawaiian
00:58:37.020 for voice of
00:58:39.020 wisdom or
00:58:39.860 old man of
00:58:42.860 wisdom or
00:58:43.460 what have you
00:58:44.200 and the
00:58:47.020 young man
00:58:47.800 is they're
00:58:48.460 sitting out
00:58:49.120 in a boat
00:58:50.840 offshore
00:58:52.460 talking
00:58:53.820 and the
00:58:55.480 young man
00:58:56.120 has got a
00:58:56.860 headache
00:58:57.500 and not
00:58:59.000 feeling too
00:58:59.700 well
00:59:00.160 the old
00:59:01.840 native is
00:59:02.720 in great
00:59:03.700 shape
00:59:04.220 he's 70
00:59:04.920 something years
00:59:05.680 old
00:59:06.140 been
00:59:07.280 evidently
00:59:08.940 drinking
00:59:09.500 at a big
00:59:10.700 party the
00:59:11.260 night before
00:59:12.000 racing hell
00:59:12.900 and having
00:59:14.180 a good
00:59:14.520 time
00:59:14.920 he's feeling
00:59:15.520 great
00:59:15.960 in fact
00:59:16.360 at one
00:59:16.760 point
00:59:17.220 dives down
00:59:18.760 about 40
00:59:19.500 more feet
00:59:20.220 and brings
00:59:22.320 up an
00:59:22.800 octopus that
00:59:23.720 he's been
00:59:24.860 fishing for
00:59:25.640 there
00:59:26.100 but they're
00:59:27.420 having a
00:59:27.900 dialogue
00:59:28.440 and the
00:59:30.220 young man
00:59:30.840 represents
00:59:31.660 the rational
00:59:33.280 western
00:59:34.540 approach
00:59:35.900 civilized
00:59:37.280 approach
00:59:37.860 what have
00:59:38.860 you
00:59:38.980 logic and
00:59:39.760 what have
00:59:40.280 you
00:59:40.460 the old
00:59:41.720 man is
00:59:42.300 talking
00:59:42.720 in terms
00:59:43.840 of myth
00:59:44.580 and what
00:59:46.240 have
00:59:46.580 you
00:59:46.840 and
00:59:48.040 here's a
00:59:49.320 key passage
00:59:50.240 a couple
00:59:51.320 of key
00:59:51.700 passages
00:59:52.200 so let
00:59:53.580 me explain
00:59:54.340 to you
00:59:54.660 the secret
00:59:55.220 of my
00:59:55.640 birth
00:59:56.120 the sea
00:59:57.840 is my
00:59:59.000 mother
00:59:59.440 I was
01:00:00.780 born in
01:00:01.380 a double
01:00:01.700 canoe
01:00:02.100 during a
01:00:02.740 Kona
01:00:03.020 gale
01:00:03.580 in the
01:00:04.700 channel of
01:00:05.300 Kohurai
01:00:06.080 from her
01:00:07.760 the sea
01:00:08.380 my mother
01:00:09.020 I receive
01:00:09.700 my strength
01:00:10.600 whenever I
01:00:12.440 return to
01:00:13.000 her arms
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01:00:14.800 a breast
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01:00:40.440 muddled
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01:01:58.520 we
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01:02:09.140 you
01:02:09.360 so we've
01:02:10.380 talked
01:02:10.580 about
01:02:10.940 different
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01:02:12.500 that
01:02:12.720 Jack
01:02:13.080 London
01:02:13.300 hit on
01:02:14.160 during
01:02:14.360 his
01:02:14.560 career
01:02:14.840 we
01:02:15.060 talked
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01:02:15.740 his
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01:02:17.120 code
01:02:17.600 this idea
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01:02:18.380 adaptability
01:02:19.200 of
01:02:20.540 true
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01:02:28.680 nature
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01:02:36.540 you
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01:02:37.920 Jack
01:02:38.160 London
01:02:38.460 what
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01:02:39.760 you
01:02:39.940 hope
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01:02:46.820 life
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01:02:51.300 Jack
01:02:51.580 London
01:02:51.840 stories
01:02:52.380 I
01:02:54.240 think
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01:02:55.040 a
01:02:55.280 sense
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01:03:08.500 to
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01:03:09.460 if
01:03:10.140 we'll
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01:03:11.280 it
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01:03:12.660 minds
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01:03:13.680 and
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01:03:17.500 terms
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01:03:21.100 overlooking
01:03:21.840 because of
01:03:22.600 the various
01:03:23.700 problems we've got
01:03:24.840 socially now
01:03:25.960 we could go into
01:03:27.300 what's going on
01:03:28.720 in our
01:03:29.120 currently
01:03:30.120 restrictive
01:03:31.160 society
01:03:32.440 or what have you
01:03:33.440 but
01:03:34.200 the sense of
01:03:35.160 openness
01:03:35.660 and
01:03:36.820 simply enjoy
01:03:38.320 life
01:03:38.980 while we can
01:03:40.260 there's so much
01:03:41.060 there
01:03:41.500 in which
01:03:42.360 Jack was still
01:03:43.280 seeking at the
01:03:44.140 very end
01:03:44.960 there's so
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01:03:48.620 open
01:03:48.940 our
01:03:49.180 eyes
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01:03:50.600 get out
01:03:51.100 and
01:03:51.400 experience
01:03:52.340 it
01:03:52.840 I think
01:03:54.100 a sense
01:03:55.280 of
01:03:55.440 excitement
01:03:56.100 a sense
01:03:57.500 of
01:03:58.100 love
01:04:00.100 of our
01:04:00.800 fellow
01:04:01.080 human
01:04:01.900 beings
01:04:02.440 and
01:04:03.200 maybe
01:04:03.760 not just
01:04:04.960 human
01:04:05.300 beings
01:04:05.720 but also
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01:04:07.020 because
01:04:07.460 Jack
01:04:08.240 absolutely
01:04:08.740 loved
01:04:09.180 animals
01:04:09.720 as well
01:04:10.200 as
01:04:10.420 people
01:04:11.220 you know
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01:04:12.880 horses
01:04:13.320 and
01:04:13.620 dogs
01:04:14.220 those
01:04:15.260 are
01:04:15.400 things
01:04:15.720 I
01:04:15.940 think
01:04:16.360 they
01:04:17.000 may
01:04:17.320 have
01:04:17.740 found
01:04:18.820 also
01:04:20.400 a
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01:04:22.260 sense
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01:04:24.000 excitement
01:04:25.600 that
01:04:26.660 they
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01:04:28.800 their
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01:04:31.000 or
01:04:31.180 whatever
01:04:31.600 and
01:04:32.620 how
01:04:33.020 has
01:04:33.180 Jack
01:04:33.440 London
01:04:33.700 changed
01:04:34.100 your
01:04:34.320 life
01:04:34.740 I
01:04:36.820 mean
01:04:36.920 you've
01:04:37.140 spent
01:04:37.440 how
01:04:38.460 many
01:04:38.660 decades
01:04:39.320 well
01:04:41.340 I
01:04:41.560 think
01:04:41.800 he's
01:04:42.060 done
01:04:42.280 a lot
01:04:42.580 for
01:04:42.800 me
01:04:43.060 in
01:04:43.240 terms
01:04:43.580 of
01:04:43.760 relationships
01:04:44.460 it's
01:04:45.000 amazing
01:04:45.480 that
01:04:46.220 the
01:04:46.580 places
01:04:48.180 I've
01:04:48.640 been
01:04:49.000 and
01:04:50.160 people
01:04:51.020 I've
01:04:51.380 met
01:04:51.660 and
01:04:51.880 the
01:04:52.440 number
01:04:52.720 of
01:04:52.920 people
01:04:53.220 out
01:04:53.540 there
01:04:53.820 who
01:04:54.100 are
01:04:54.800 absolutely
01:04:55.440 taken
01:04:56.740 with
01:04:57.060 Jack
01:04:57.420 London
01:04:57.760 for one
01:04:58.380 reason
01:04:58.740 or another
01:04:59.280 most of
01:05:00.340 what we've
01:05:00.840 been
01:05:00.980 discussing
01:05:01.480 today
01:05:02.100 that
01:05:03.080 there's
01:05:03.680 a sense
01:05:04.220 of
01:05:04.420 openness
01:05:04.920 there
01:05:05.560 to
01:05:06.400 London
01:05:07.480 that
01:05:08.380 you
01:05:08.520 may
01:05:08.740 not
01:05:09.000 find
01:05:09.440 in
01:05:09.600 other
01:05:09.880 authors
01:05:10.360 there's
01:05:10.700 so
01:05:10.880 many
01:05:11.180 different
01:05:11.680 possibilities
01:05:13.080 for
01:05:13.440 living
01:05:13.860 if you
01:05:14.660 just
01:05:14.960 open
01:05:15.300 yourself
01:05:15.700 up
01:05:16.040 to
01:05:16.300 them
01:05:16.660 fantastic
01:05:17.620 well
01:05:17.880 Earl
01:05:18.180 this
01:05:18.940 has
01:05:19.060 been
01:05:19.200 a
01:05:19.420 fantastic
01:05:20.100 conversation
01:05:20.780 thanks
01:05:21.100 so much
01:05:21.360 for
01:05:21.480 having
01:05:21.660 us
01:05:21.820 here
01:05:21.960 down
01:05:22.220 in
01:05:22.360 Shreveport
01:05:22.880 it's
01:05:23.740 been
01:05:23.920 my
01:05:24.180 pleasure
01:05:24.560 thank
01:05:25.000 you
01:05:25.120 so
01:05:25.380 much
01:05:25.880 my
01:05:26.740 guest
01:05:26.900 day
01:05:27.000 was
01:05:27.160 Earl
01:05:27.500 Labour
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