The Auron MacIntyre Show - A Coordinated Attack on Biological Parents ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 9⧸5⧸23

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00:00:49.980 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:00:51.300 Happy to be here, Oren. Always a pleasure.

00:00:53.320 So, as you guys are very aware, the left is about destroying everything that is good

00:00:59.340 and beautiful and true.

00:01:00.560 They need to dismantle all of our norms, all of our foundations, all of our traditions,

00:01:05.300 all the things that kind of give us identity and meaning and value so that they can rearrange

00:01:11.140 the world into their own utopian ideas.

00:01:14.240 And, of course, this means they go after foundational things like the family.

00:01:18.820 They've been doing that, of course, for a very long time.

00:01:21.040 They started picking at the edges.

00:01:23.140 They've been moving closer and closer.

00:01:25.360 And now they've finally reached the core here as we get an article on preferring biological children

00:01:31.680 and how it's immoral.

00:01:33.500 So, obviously, we're going to be diving deep into this idea and explaining kind of why the

00:01:41.180 left is approaching this issue in this manner.

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00:03:14.280 So let's go ahead and jump into the article we're looking at today.

00:03:17.040 Now, this comes from Wired Magazine, and as with so many other cases, we have a case of the German cat here.

00:03:25.160 Of course, Wired Magazine is supposed to be about technology, but hasn't been about technology in a very long time.

00:03:30.600 Just like Rolling Stone isn't about music at all.

00:03:34.220 In the total state, of course, every outlet, every piece of media is actually just another opportunity

00:03:41.660 for the regime to kind of force propaganda down your throat.

00:03:45.680 So in a magazine that has nothing to do with parenting or biology,

00:03:50.500 we get an article about pushing a leftist agenda about dispensing the family because, of course, we do.

00:03:57.500 Now, the Prudentialists, before we get into this, I know a lot of people would kind of be surprised to see this,

00:04:04.300 but I know you're not surprised to see this.

00:04:06.080 We already did a discussion kind of on Nick Land's idea that every disagreement is an opportunity to rule,

00:04:14.060 and I think that's a really good thing for people to keep in mind as we watch the left attack the most fundamental aspect of families,

00:04:20.820 which is, of course, their biological reality.

00:04:23.940 Yeah, absolutely.

00:04:24.740 I think when there's discussions of liberation or abolition or deconstruction,

00:04:29.500 it's always an opportunity to rule over things that are core units that establish hierarchy,

00:04:34.280 family, of course, being sort of the basic tenant in which all biological hierarchy kind of comes from.

00:04:40.520 And if you can't have that, then, you know, that's what they have to attack.

00:04:43.780 And that's the root vector.

00:04:45.340 And I mean, we've seen this before in the past, you know, after the discussion over abortion had sort of been settled,

00:04:52.740 at least in the Supreme Court with the Dobbs decision.

00:04:55.280 You know, they were even angry about people wanting to adopt children.

00:04:58.200 You know, they were like, well, we think people who want to adopt or are, you know, traffickers or colonizers or racists.

00:05:04.120 And now the same thing.

00:05:05.520 And well, if they can't go for those people, they'll go for those that actually want children of their own,

00:05:09.340 because to them, you know, they'll they'll see it, you know, behind every liberal is like an esoteric,

00:05:14.580 you know, reader of all sorts of things of like the Third Reich where they'll be like,

00:05:18.260 oh, man, you want to have children of your own?

00:05:20.000 That's blood and soil right there.

00:05:21.440 We can't have that.

00:05:22.400 So, yeah, as I've said many times before on this show or and I'm not surprised when the left wants to go after things that are things we take for granted.

00:05:32.200 Absolutely.

00:05:32.860 So Leo Kim is the author here.

00:05:35.160 And of course, that the whole article is preferring biological children is immoral.

00:05:39.960 Let's go ahead and dive into the first paragraph here and we'll get a little deeper into why the left is going here.

00:05:45.540 So recently, a close friend of mine told me how much he wanted to be a parent one day.

00:05:50.500 I asked if he'd consider adopting.

00:05:52.800 Suddenly, he became hesitant, pausing before admitting that he'd like to have children who are biologically related.

00:05:58.460 His answer wasn't unusual.

00:05:59.860 In fact, it was probably my question that was odd.

00:06:02.340 His brief equivocation felt significant, signaling a peripheral awareness that his answer had become more complicated.

00:06:10.260 Now, at the outset, I want to go ahead and say that obviously adoption, I think, is a very noble thing.

00:06:16.580 I think it's a big self-sacrifice that some people make.

00:06:20.720 I have cousins who were adopted.

00:06:23.440 I've had friends who adopted children.

00:06:26.340 They love them dearly.

00:06:27.580 I mean, it's a close bond.

00:06:29.340 It's an important thing that people do.

00:06:32.320 But of course, it's not always the norm.

00:06:34.820 It's not and it's never going to be the norm by definition.

00:06:37.220 Adoption, it's something that a lot of people who don't have the option to have children or have different things in their lives pop up, they end up going that route.

00:06:44.840 And God bless them for doing so.

00:06:46.860 But I think the thing that we need to focus on at the beginning is that when the left brings up things like this, they don't actually care about it.

00:06:52.520 As you already pointed out, the left isn't always really big fans of adoption.

00:06:57.160 In fact, a lot of times they treat it as something that is nefarious.

00:07:01.580 I don't think in general the left wants people to have families.

00:07:05.920 And I think that this question is disingenuous.

00:07:08.400 It's just a wedge to create a different conversation.

00:07:11.780 And we can tell because, you know, the author highlights how their question was, in fact, the odd thing.

00:07:18.180 But they were happy to see it create this moment of doubt in someone that they're pretending they care about, someone they call a friend.

00:07:26.860 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:27.820 And I mean, to them, I mean, we're going to see it in this article and we've seen it before that, you know, that they'll come up with some moral justification that they don't believe in, but they know that you believe in it.

00:07:41.260 We know that children are sacred.

00:07:43.360 We know that the sanctity of life is sacred.

00:07:45.480 Our enemies know that.

00:07:46.960 And so to target it at the most core root level, the natural human, you know, the bonds and creation from God that we have to love our own children and to have priority over them and our family and that we would do anything for them.

00:08:02.180 Well, to them, they know that that's sacred and they have to attack it.

00:08:05.640 Back to our article here.

00:08:06.860 For most of Western history, it was a given that a parent would want their children to be their direct progeny.

00:08:13.280 In fact, for most of history, that's what child meant, right?

00:08:16.740 It's not just a desire.

00:08:18.640 It's literally that's just what the word child meant.

00:08:22.000 It was the default because it was a natural law.

00:08:25.600 A child's biological provenance was believed to ground the parent-child relationship in a hardwired irrevocable bond.

00:08:37.860 If anything, it was morally preferable that your child would be directly related to you since this was thought to provide a healthy foundation for growth and self-actualization.

00:08:47.820 So, again, yeah, like these are just, again, the things that would be natural that would occur normally.

00:08:53.120 You really need a larger level of kind of social creation in order to have any other arrangement when it comes to parents and child.

00:09:02.960 Those things can exist.

00:09:04.580 Again, I think that adoption is noble in most circumstances when motivated properly.

00:09:10.940 But those were always built on top of the natural authority that's created through the parent-child relationship.

00:09:18.920 But that natural bond, that natural authority, that's what the left is looking to dismantle here through this language.

00:09:25.280 Yeah, absolutely.

00:09:27.640 And here we go.

00:09:28.640 The thing you should always watch out, guys, for, the bioethicist.

00:09:32.520 Again, bioethicists are the least ethical people in the world.

00:09:36.880 They are the least moral people in the world.

00:09:39.700 Anytime you see someone with the title bioethicists, like keep them away from your children, keep them away from your neighborhood, run them out of town, don't let them move it.

00:09:49.780 Like bioethicists is just a title that should be seen as one of the – it's right up there with journalists and used car salesmen as things that should warn you about the character of somebody.

00:10:03.560 Bioethicist David Vellman expresses this line of argument when he writes that knowledge of one's biological parents is a basic good on which people rely in pursuit of self-knowledge and identity formation.

00:10:20.120 Okay, well, maybe I spoke too soon.

00:10:21.960 He actually said something true there.

00:10:23.340 Sorry about that, David.

00:10:24.900 I didn't mean to dunk on you so hard, though I fear that your bioethicist title still makes you an inherently bad person.

00:10:32.140 Sorry, that's just my intuition there.

00:10:35.700 Yet this prioritization of biological inheritance, biologism, as some call it, no one calls it that.

00:10:43.740 No one.

00:10:44.500 No one.

00:10:45.160 Whenever a journalist says, as some say, as some call, as some do, that's just them inventing a piece of newspeak right then and there.

00:10:53.880 So that's just a piece of newspeak.

00:10:55.700 Don't use it.

00:10:56.500 Don't give it any credence.

00:10:58.060 Don't repeat it.

00:10:59.380 Don't reference it.

00:11:00.500 The only reason we're going to acknowledge you here for a moment is to notice that it's newspeak and then move on.

00:11:07.860 Previously, if you gave birth to a child, it was a simple certainty that they were genetically related to you.

00:11:14.720 The biological fact was inextricably linked to their existence.

00:11:19.520 Over the past few decades, however, practices like gestational surrogacy have shown that this need not be the case.

00:11:28.420 Evolving family structures, advances in fertilization and embryonic screening technologies, and changing moral sentiments have contributed to a growing revelation of this deceptively simple preference.

00:11:39.780 So there was nothing deceptively simple, nor was it a preference, right?

00:11:44.860 Right, right, right.

00:11:45.400 This was just something that was inherently true.

00:11:48.140 And they're hoping that by like creating some form of technology, they can completely deroot this truth from human nature.

00:11:55.720 But that doesn't go away simply because we've developed something that fundamentally alters the way that humans did and should be created and be related to each other.

00:12:05.840 A growing revaluation of deceptively simple preference, deceptively simple preference, the same biological urge and necessity mankind has had since Adam and Eve were, you know, shacked up.

00:12:16.600 But sure, why not?

00:12:17.980 Let's go ahead and change thousands of years of tradition norms and whatnot.

00:12:22.360 I mean, this is a big reason why when children like you have to break it to them softly if they are adopted, because if they do not know, you are shattering their entire worldview.

00:12:32.140 It's the same thing when you have surrogacy, which already brings in a whole other person in to have the host of the children, who is the person who's going to experience those maternal pangs because that was inside of them for nine months.

00:12:43.660 Like there are social consequences to these additional, you know, technological innovations we have to fertility.

00:12:50.000 Some of them, yes, can overcome great things.

00:12:52.140 Other times you're creating social problems that are now get turned into wedge issues to deconstruct and to eliminate the most basic and precious thing that we have, which is the ability to create life.

00:13:03.060 Exactly. And, you know, they're counting on this again.

00:13:07.000 This is a preferable situation for them because it destroys natural authority.

00:13:12.020 Again, there are those outlier cases.

00:13:14.160 And, you know, there are all are these situations in which people will have children.

00:13:19.080 They will, you know, take on the authority of the parental role in lieu of other situations.

00:13:25.260 That's always been true to some extent.

00:13:27.120 And that might be more true now than ever.

00:13:30.080 However, the fundamental relationship is grounded.

00:13:34.640 The authority of that relationship is grounded in that biological essential biological connection.

00:13:40.480 Even if that's not true across all of these experiences, it is the thing that creates the natural order on which people are kind of resting.

00:13:49.400 And like you said, create identity.

00:13:51.340 So when that isn't the case, it needs to be handled gingerly.

00:13:54.440 It needs to be handled with care.

00:13:55.620 It doesn't need to be exploited by cynical people who are looking to destroy any barrier to their own power, any desire for them to use the state to wedge families apart.

00:14:05.620 But it's very clear that that is what's happening here.

00:14:09.320 So once again, back to our article.

00:14:12.180 Once we begin to disentangle what is truly possible from what we simply assumed was necessary, we are forced to look at this natural preference with fresh eyes.

00:14:21.460 And this is true, right?

00:14:23.200 So there is unfortunately something that does need to be acknowledged even by, I think, those who would oppose what's happening here.

00:14:29.920 When these technological advancements occur, people will always look to use them in this manner, right?

00:14:37.380 And this is something that people who see themselves as conservative or reactionary need to acknowledge about the nature of technology.

00:14:43.460 You cannot avoid these questions once this technology is created and it's available, which is why people might need to be more intentional about how technology is created or how it's allowed to be used.

00:14:57.020 Or if we're not intentional about how that's happening, we need to at least, as people who might oppose different aspects of how that's going to be exploited,

00:15:04.920 we need to be prepared with arguments, safety measures, and, you know, kind of a mental, spiritual, and political awareness about how that's going to be deployed once that technology exists.

00:15:18.140 Yeah.

00:15:18.640 And you look at this and it's certainly a differentiation from the usual progressive safetyism, that sort of Rawlsian idea that, like, if we make sure that, like, the world is safe, we can reduce risk, which goes back to John Stuart Mill.

00:15:31.660 Well, you know, all of a sudden, right, like, this leads us to talking about things like this, that, well, actually, you know, the ultimate safety is to ensure that, like, people don't get left out and that the family must be destroyed and that we don't prefer biological, you know, children over our own.

00:15:45.740 And in doing so, like, we're only creating these, like, they call it a vestigial remnant of a different epoch, wherein how is it vestigial of every human society on Earth, not just Western society, prefers that.

00:15:58.260 There are very few outside of maybe uncontacted tribes that have no preference for their own biological children and try their best to protect them.

00:16:06.640 Like, that is something that sort of separates man from beast in that regard.

00:16:10.320 And here, they're like, well, because we've accelerated technology or because we have these new technological innovations, which only really exist in, you know, primarily first world developed countries, we can throw out the family.

00:16:21.460 And in turn, we're, you know, almost being as we're trying to just create this some kind of techno utopia, we're trying to create some kind of techno messianic materialism.

00:16:31.500 And it's not working out because to root yourself from what is made you a society throughout thousands of years, you're not saving yourself from anything, if anything, you're deliberately destroying it.

00:16:41.660 But that's me giving way too much credit to these people, because they do want to destroy the family, they do want to ensure that you don't have children that are your own.

00:16:47.960 And if you have children, well, then by God, they're going to try their best to transit.

00:16:52.220 And I want to point out that we once again have this very convenient kind of look at biological determinism, right?

00:17:00.940 So born this way, you know, you can't help what you're choosing.

00:17:05.180 You know, you have a biological drive to be drawn to specific people, you know, when it comes to your sexuality.

00:17:11.780 They're even trying to move this now, of course, to child predation.

00:17:15.000 You already see this move on the left, of course, and advancing this argument that, well, people who have this biological, biologically determined thing, they have to, you have to be sympathetic towards them.

00:17:26.840 Of course, they do this with addiction and all other things.

00:17:29.720 However, it turns out biological determinism doesn't exist yet, right?

00:17:33.120 And doesn't have to be considered.

00:17:34.380 So that's the very convenient thing about biology and its, you know, ability to determine our behavior.

00:17:42.100 It exists when it's convenient to the left to advance the arguments of the left.

00:17:45.280 It disappears the minute that it doesn't.

00:17:47.140 There's no need to understand why it's simply a tool.

00:17:51.080 There's no science behind it.

00:17:52.780 It's all simply ideological preference.

00:17:54.720 It's a shield to advance thing that something that can be discarded the minute that you want to advance something else.

00:18:01.060 Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:02.020 Back to our article here.

00:18:04.060 What we find is that when contextualized amongst other modern ethical norms.

00:18:09.820 Oh, man, that that phrase is doing all kinds of terrible work.

00:18:13.380 This preference can feel downright ancient.

00:18:16.440 Again, assuming that that would be bad.

00:18:18.640 A vestigial remnant of different epoch.

00:18:21.000 Yeah, you already referenced this here.

00:18:23.520 A fossil no longer animated by the same moral intuitions that gave it gravity in the past.

00:18:29.060 In fact, many of the arguments that might have been made in favor of this prejudice run precisely counter to other changing attitudes towards parenting family and the role of biology and culture.

00:18:40.820 So, again, we see the fact that this is something that can just be discarded at a whim.

00:18:46.440 We've already unspooled basically everything else around this aspect of family, the authority of the parent, the connection between mother and child, father and child, the sanctity and protection of all of those connections.

00:19:02.100 We've already dismantled everything around that.

00:19:04.780 And so now that we manage to dismantle all of those things, now we can come for the core of it.

00:19:09.320 Now we can get down to even the nuts and bolts, the facts.

00:19:11.900 This is the same thing, again, that happened with gender and sex, right?

00:19:17.040 Is we can destroy all of these things around the idea of gender roles, the idea of societal roles, the truth of the difference between men and women.

00:19:26.840 We can dismantle all of those things.

00:19:29.440 We can call them social constructs.

00:19:31.100 We can break those apart.

00:19:32.860 And, you know, a lot of these new atheist types, these IDW types, they were on board for all of that dismantlement. 0.68

00:19:41.200 They're on board for all the waves of feminism and all the destruction that came before. 1.00

00:19:45.860 But then it gets to the biological and they're like, oh, wait, how can you how could we possibly got here?

00:19:52.060 They'll have the same level of confusion here, right?

00:19:54.220 They'll be equally confused.

00:19:55.880 How could we possibly gotten to the basic biology of it?

00:19:58.900 Oh, well, easily because you dismantled everything that came before.

00:20:02.360 And this is the only thing left.

00:20:03.600 And there's nothing about science or biology or any of this other stuff.

00:20:06.520 But the left actually held sacred.

00:20:08.320 They just had to eat through all the outer layers before they could get to the core.

00:20:12.680 Yeah, absolutely.

00:20:13.280 I think that's sort of the key thing to realize is that they can't seem to put two and two together.

00:20:17.940 Or more importantly, I think it's more of the fact that they don't want to put two and two together.

00:20:21.920 Because there's a sort of a sunk cost fallacy when it comes to sort of these ideologies.

00:20:26.480 And it's that we've already witnessed the argumentation about biological determinism or essentialism or even acknowledging that there are certainly biological differences between people.

00:20:35.780 We saw this when it came to women in the transgender movement, you know, women that were probably all for the liberation of the idea of womanhood or what it means to be a female and have that identity be liberated from its core biological root.

00:20:48.360 And now all of a sudden they realize, like, hey, why do all of these trans people hate women?

00:20:53.260 That's sort of the same issue that they have there.

00:20:55.520 And we already witnessed that where they'll call them, you know, trans exclusionary or whatever, because they acknowledge basic biological realities of what makes a woman a woman.

00:21:04.000 And in that respect, we're seeing it go to its next logical conclusion.

00:21:07.660 Well, if we can already separate the biological aspect of what defines male and female, well, then great.

00:21:13.360 The next thing that comes from that is the aspect of family and identity.

00:21:17.780 And when they talk about these technologies, you know, they're already trying to push the advancement of of womb transplants and things like that in the West.

00:21:25.300 And then you get the most insane people, delusional, radical people that will tell you, yeah, I want to have a womb transplants plan so I can abort something like that's the level of what we're dealing with here behind all these kinds of articles is that regardless of what this person actually thinks, it doesn't matter because it will enable the kind of radicalization and utter depraved destruction of family and civilization and the good, because the people that want to benefit from this the most are people that shouldn't be near an elementary school.

00:21:53.860 Well, and this is always how every totalitarian regime wants to do this, right?

00:21:59.000 Like we can go all the way back to to, you know, Plato's Republic and the need to take children from their parents, right?

00:22:05.600 If you want to have if you want to create the utopian structure, if you want to mold society from the ground up, you have to destroy the most fundamental bond.

00:22:16.200 They've been trying to do it for many years, for many decades.

00:22:19.860 The most notable one recently, like you said, has been the desire to, like, push trans rights into the family, into children so that they can use civil rights law to destroy families, to destroy the parents' authority over the child and how they're going to grow up. 0.98

00:22:35.900 But now they're just going to go the next logical step, which is which is pure to the biological root of the whole thing.

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00:23:12.460 Absolutely.

00:23:13.420 At the heart of biologicalism, again, our new speak term here, is the question of whether it's permissible to consider a child's genetics when deciding to become a parent.

00:23:23.680 Again, an interesting point that all of these things are, it's the destruction of every non-chosen bond, right?

00:23:31.240 That's the core of this.

00:23:33.260 Every bond at every moment is chosen, which means every bond at every moment can be broken.

00:23:39.360 The key is the destruction of all bonds not created by the government.

00:23:44.540 And so something that was never a question, never a decision, becomes a question.

00:23:50.080 And whenever there's a disagreement, there's an opportunity for the government to rule.

00:23:55.660 Our improving ability to genetically screen embryos and continued development of assisted reproduction technologies has enabled prospective parents to assess potential embryos for hundreds of traits.

00:24:09.100 And forced us to revisit a wariness around biological consideration in reproductive decisions caused by the horrors of state-sponsored eugenics.

00:24:17.200 Through many of the genetic conditions being screened for are fatal, they begin to expand the net to encompass features like deafness and dwarfness.

00:24:24.520 And despite skepticism and the possibility of eventually testing for traits like IQ and height, the desire is certainly there.

00:24:30.980 All of this has given a sense of urgency to the thorny issues regarding how and to what extent biology should play into decisions to have children.

00:24:41.380 It is clear that these considerations will play some role in the future.

00:24:44.460 So to be really clear, all of these things will be selected for if the technology exists, right?

00:24:50.120 We already have seen how sex-selective abortions were used in places like China with the one policy rule to eliminate a generation of women, right? 0.99

00:25:00.560 Just massacred a generation of women that don't exist, a couple generations of women that don't exist, which is creating a demographic crisis of sorts in China due to this.

00:25:13.300 So just because the technology exists, it will be chosen this way.

00:25:17.120 Again, that's why you have to be careful.

00:25:19.100 That's why you have to think about and be intentional about the way that this stuff is implemented because it will happen.

00:25:25.280 So even these leftists who are pretending like, oh, we're worried about the idea of eugenics.

00:25:28.860 No, simply by creating this technology and using it as your own argument to disassociate biological connection between parents and children, you're using it for your own purposes, but it will be used this way.

00:25:43.180 If not in the United States, other places, it's going to happen.

00:25:46.560 It's not a question of if, it's only a question of when.

00:25:48.420 Yeah, I notice how when it comes to biological aspects of human life, it's always in that sort of Schrodinger's cat thing with the left.

00:25:56.940 It's only useful as a cudgel for them.

00:25:58.580 But if you point out uncomfortable aspects of society, whether you're Murray talking about the bell curve as that was, you know, 30 years ago, or someone like Steve Saylor, like you're going to get in trouble for pointing out, you know, the obvious counterpoint to whatever leftist nonsense and dribble gets put out there.

00:26:13.880 But then all of a sudden they shriek back and they'll tell you that that's not real or it's a social construct.

00:26:18.280 It's an aspect of like colonial race science and we can't use it.

00:26:21.820 But for them, it's always like, no, these things are very real and we're very concerned about it happening and the net will just keep expanding.

00:26:27.940 It's that safetyism because they don't want you to point out the obvious.

00:26:31.300 They don't want you to acknowledge that actually, no, there are some very key things that aren't being addressed here because their new speak doesn't allow you to talk about things like intelligence or height or weight, muscles, differences.

00:26:44.780 No, we have to make sure that our our form of technological utopia can be achieved. 0.55

00:26:50.540 And that means that we can't have you naughty racists around. 1.00

00:26:53.860 Yeah, biological heredity, it turns out, is only only exists for the convenience of making the argument to destroy the family.

00:27:00.560 It immediately disappears for all of their for all other aspects of it.

00:27:04.140 What an amazing piece of science biological heredity happens to be.

00:27:09.940 That's a very but but so many pieces of science have that amazing ability for the left.

00:27:14.780 So no surprise there.

00:27:16.560 Sadly, a few core beliefs that have already have already solidified.

00:27:20.800 Again, one of the things you want to look for, guys, is when journalists just speak things into existence.

00:27:25.920 Right.

00:27:26.740 This this is I believe this is what Kofofi Annan calls the progressive passive voice.

00:27:32.540 Right.

00:27:32.980 It just happened.

00:27:33.640 It's just there.

00:27:34.740 It just exists.

00:27:37.120 Nobody.

00:27:37.920 That consensus just just was created out of nowhere.

00:27:41.160 So nobody voted on this.

00:27:43.000 There was never actually any general understanding of this.

00:27:46.060 They're just speaking their own intentions, their own preferences into being and giving it the idea that it's already a consensus that formed out in the ether somewhere.

00:27:56.220 Namely, we have converged on the idea that that if biology is to be a factor at all, it should only be considered insofar as it prevents harm and suffering.

00:28:05.600 Man, I've got I'm pretty sure they've got some ideas about biological harm and suffering that might not be too popular.

00:28:12.880 There's that safetyism again.

00:28:14.520 Yeah.

00:28:14.760 As Laura Hersher puts it at the MIT Technological Review, public opinion on the use of assisted reproductive technology consistently draws a distinction between preventing disease and picking rates.

00:28:27.060 That is like I bet you that's going to disappear as soon as they figure out how to remove things like, I don't know, male aggression.

00:28:32.860 Studies like one conducted by John Hopkins Genetics and Public Policy Center seems to indicate seems one study seems to indicate.

00:28:42.980 Well, that's scientific and conclusive that this intuition is broadly shared.

00:28:50.700 What does that even mean?

00:28:53.260 You know, in the post-COVID era, I'm surprised that we even got one study that seems to indicate something.

00:28:59.720 Good Lord.

00:29:00.220 Yeah, no, I mean, like this seems to indicate that this intuition is broadly shared.

00:29:05.200 Yeah, people don't get really uneasy when it comes to like the social condition.

00:29:11.100 If you'll get really uneasy about like being quote unquote eugenicists, whereas, you know, broadly preventing disease into making sure that my kid isn't born with like Tay-Sachs disease or something, you know, all those really nasty rare genetic conditions, totally fine.

00:29:25.280 But, you know, I like this last sentence that's on that last paragraph, you know, as we begin to veer into the gnarled territory of gene fetishes and optimization logics trodden by the only person here who's got fetishes is probably going to be the people asking, like, can my kid be born trans or whatever?

00:29:41.660 Like, it's not like, you know, I'm going to see a bunch of progressive families trying to get into MIT and being like, listen, we really want our baby to be a six foot three blonde Nordic blue eyed Chad.

00:29:52.080 Like, that's not what's going to happen, because in today's society, it's like, actually, we need you to be the specific color of beige so he can get into all the schools thanks to diversity requirements.

00:30:00.720 Like, that's this is where we're at.

00:30:02.720 And we're and I say all these things and it sounds ridiculous, but this is the world that I live in. 0.89

00:30:07.100 I we live in I live in a clown show and I sometimes I just don't know what to say. 0.88

00:30:13.380 All you can do is honk.

00:30:14.760 All right.

00:30:15.540 So if we accept this argument, then the relevant question becomes whether a child's genetic providence, their biological resemblance to their parents, prevents suffering.

00:30:26.160 We can quickly begin to sense the difficulty in justifying that it does.

00:30:31.920 It's unclear that the what sort of negative outcome is being avoided by opting for a genetically related child.

00:30:38.960 This biological fact appears largely irrelevant to their well-being, especially when compared to to those features, all the diseases you just mentioned, that we do seem permissible for consideration.

00:30:51.620 While against the scale, prioritizing relatedness appears far closer, selecting for an arbitrary feature like height and selecting against a deadly degenerative neural disease.

00:31:01.460 So you're going to see this, guys.

00:31:03.040 We're inching closer and closer.

00:31:04.560 We'll get there.

00:31:05.100 Don't worry.

00:31:05.480 You are.

00:31:05.800 I'm going to spoil it just because you guys already know the end of this. 0.83

00:31:08.960 A biological relation to your child is white supremacy.

00:31:12.400 It's racist that I know you already knew that's where this was going, but it's interesting.

00:31:17.540 It's fun to watch.

00:31:18.580 Again, we want to watch each step of this process so we can understand how it's getting there.

00:31:23.420 So we start at kind of the, oh, it's just about adoption, right?

00:31:27.120 It's just about adoption.

00:31:28.500 And we watch how the wedge is used at each step to pry apart kind of what they try to create and make this a social construct, nothing of value.

00:31:38.960 Here we can see the very clear attempt to say, ooh, you don't want your kid to look like you, right? 0.92

00:31:43.560 That's weird.

00:31:44.440 Even though like the most common parental experience of all time is being like, oh, look, he's got your eyes and her hair and his freckles and that nose.

00:31:53.740 Like that is one of the most core experiences, the most natural experience of any parent, of any human recognizing the attitudes, the things that you transfer to your child.

00:32:06.100 That is the fact that having a child gives you the sense of perpetuity, the continuity of being, the great chain of being that passes from one generation into the next.

00:32:17.240 Like all those things are incredibly normal, natural, desirable things.

00:32:21.340 They're the things that create family bonds.

00:32:23.560 But family bonds are the thing they want to destroy.

00:32:26.300 And so the best way to destroy that is to slowly but surely suggest at the edges, at the beginning, that this is all about racism.

00:32:35.320 And this is where it starts in earnest.

00:32:37.840 Like you want your kid to look like you?

00:32:39.460 That's so weird.

00:32:40.320 That's so backward. 0.88

00:32:41.180 That's so parochial.

00:32:42.340 But what kind of strange thing?

00:32:44.160 That probably makes you sinister in some way.

00:32:47.220 Yeah, I mean, like this is where I all articles like this tend to go is it's like, look, buddy, you know, you don't want your kid to look like you, you know, whether it's to progress like the writer's own fantasy or their own fetishes.

00:33:02.140 Like, it's just an example in which, like, no, the heart, home and hearth are things that are bad.

00:33:09.220 It's sort of a strange thing where, you know, the left in the United States and really in the Western world lives under this like specter.

00:33:17.880 It's haunted.

00:33:19.000 There's this hauntology of fascism, this hauntology of white supremacy, this haunt.

00:33:23.480 You're haunted by Hitler in this respect. 0.94

00:33:25.660 And I mean, Curtis Yarvin's written about this and called Killing the Ghosts.

00:33:28.460 But, you know, it really does say that, like, actually, you know, that whole blood and soil thing, you know, we don't want that to ever exist again.

00:33:35.240 We don't want you to have any relationship to your children.

00:33:37.180 And that's actually bad.

00:33:38.440 And it's not about adoption at this point.

00:33:40.420 It's about your destruction on a genetic level.

00:33:44.000 Quite, quite literally, they're making that pretty explicit here.

00:33:46.820 So proponents of biological, our new speak, might argue that these ties do, in fact, produce a significant relationship between parent and child that proves critical to their happiness.

00:33:59.820 Yes.

00:34:00.620 In fact, that's just so self-evident that no one ever thought it ever need to explain it up until now.

00:34:07.500 But, of course, that's the point, right?

00:34:09.300 They want to have this conversation because they want to create disagreement.

00:34:12.680 They want to create disagreement because they want an opportunity to rule.

00:34:15.620 Some, like Vellum, have claimed that similarity to one's parents can impact overall well-being through the development of one's identity.

00:34:24.000 Yet the argument appears rather thin.

00:34:26.200 No, again, it's super thick.

00:34:28.000 It might be the thickest concept ever created about mankind.

00:34:32.500 It might be the most self-evident observation, the most, you know, endurable across all cultures, across all peoples, across all religions.

00:34:43.380 It might be the most enduring fact of human existence ever created.

00:34:48.120 But it turns out research and experts find that it might be thin.

00:34:52.900 Yeah, okay.

00:34:54.160 But rather, as research on adoptees has indicated, this form of self-actualization doesn't stem from genetic relatedness or gestational history, but rather from the parents' testament or treatment of their children.

00:35:09.500 Though family resemblance can certainly help children develop a sense of self, the ethicist, Tina Rulli, reminds us that this can just as easily be realized through the kind of resemblance that adopted children bear to their adoptive families.

00:35:25.420 Additionally, Rulli really notes, it's not as if gestational bonds is the be-all-end-all of motherhood-child bonds.

00:35:32.160 Mother-child attachment is in infant adoption occurs readily, and there is no difference in quality of attachment.

00:35:39.140 Neither self-development nor fulfilling parent bonds appears to necessitate relatedness. 0.92

00:35:48.760 Again, all of this is just ridiculous.

00:35:50.900 It's obviously not true.

00:35:53.000 Again, adoption an amazing thing.

00:35:55.420 And there are many people who are incredibly close to their adopted parents.

00:35:59.140 Adopted parents, however, do, as the Prudentialists already noted, have to work extra hard to mold that person, to grant them identity.

00:36:07.260 They have to be very careful about the revelation of that information, to instill the same level of love.

00:36:13.360 The first thing that many adopted children feel is abandonment once they find out because they think that the parents who actually fathered or mothered them did not care for them.

00:36:23.400 And so that fact has to be addressed by the adoptive parents.

00:36:26.500 Now, thank God that many people are able to still feel those bonds, right?

00:36:32.120 But the idea that this is all just relative is insane.

00:36:36.600 The very fact that a mother does carry their child has and does, let's be clear, risk their life, right? 0.98

00:36:44.320 For men, you know, the battlefield was the most dangerous place throughout most of history.

00:36:49.860 And for women, the birthing bed was the most dangerous place for women throughout history. 0.99

00:36:54.640 You know, childbirth was often the cause of death. 1.00

00:36:57.740 And so that sacrifice that women put themselves through to carry a child to term was a deeply significant thing, right?

00:37:05.620 It was not something that was lost on the child when they realized how often that act could end fatally for the mother.

00:37:13.640 And so this fact is in is just inseparable from the value they feel in attachment to and worth they feel from their parents.

00:37:24.960 Yeah, I mean, that's really the big thing here is that.

00:37:29.020 For a generation of progressives and I mean, like we're in a different I mean, there's always been sort of that antenatal bent in leftism.

00:37:38.000 And I think especially now when you have quite a few millennials that are disproportionately childless, whether by design or by choice through social conditioning,

00:37:49.140 and you've got individuals that have divorced themselves from home and have decided, really, I'll make my career my altar.

00:37:56.260 This is really where I'm going to be in the future.

00:37:58.920 You know, I can write things like this because I've never had a child that is my own.

00:38:04.360 I have divorced myself completely from family.

00:38:07.600 I, you know, I wonder if this author was adopted, you know, in that respect as well, because it raises the important question that like this isn't a new phenomenon for them about the destruction of the family is nothing new.

00:38:19.800 And you talk about leftism or progressivism, all sorts of isms in the world.

00:38:23.580 But to me, it does indicate that like this is sort of a key moment for the progressive project, because you have right now a cavalcade of people, these foot soldiers, these, you know, permanent managerial class types, these strivers that have sacrificed family identity of all kinds, not just family, race, etc.

00:38:43.780 But all kinds of identity and including their ability to have children, to be part of this project, this sort of like, you know, kiliastic progressivism.

00:38:53.500 And so they have to tell you time and time again that the things that are natural to you and I, the things that have been natural to the Western and all over, not just the Western world, but all of humanity, relatively speaking, that's wrong.

00:39:06.060 That's weird. That's strange. And to do so, watch, see, and as you talked about it earlier, we kind of gave the ball away.

00:39:13.400 But like, what does this all go back to? It goes back to white supremacy.

00:39:16.280 It leads back to this rather fervent rhetorical position that like, well, you know, it doesn't matter what race you are. 0.98

00:39:22.500 You don't want to be like those evil white supremacists, do you? 0.96

00:39:25.500 I mean, we see this with school shooters, too. Like, you know, if the word white gets used, it's meant to indicate something bad. 0.99

00:39:30.700 The idea that you want to have children that look like you or that you can say that is biologically my child.

00:39:36.360 It's genetically related to me. I've continued the bloodline as far back as humanly possible.

00:39:40.880 Well, you know, that makes you a Nazi. And that's where we're at. 0.76

00:39:44.160 Like, this is the ghosts that we're being ruled by.

00:39:46.760 And for them, that that the dead guy who's dead in a bunker in 45, that's their Satan.

00:39:52.580 They changed out the devil for a dead guy. And this is where we're at.

00:39:56.080 And it's amazing because, like you said, that this argument is it's amazing that it wields that level of power, that that scare tactic, that that boogeyman, that that haunting wields that level of power.

00:40:08.260 Because, again, like you said, this is a human universal. If there's any human universal, this is it. Right.

00:40:13.480 Like, like, like, like, like, you know, I'm not as huge a fan of universalism as many, many people.

00:40:19.700 But if there's one universal human thing about human nature that that has to exist, this has to be it.

00:40:26.840 And so the fact that they're trying to scare everybody, not not just, you know, people of European ancestry, but everybody away from this, the this biological connection to family and children with the threat of that you might be labeled an evil, you know, European, an evil white person.

00:40:43.800 And that's terrifying that that it has that level of power that they think they can use as a cudgel, even on people who should have no connection to this, though, that might be their primary target.

00:40:52.600 You know, it is a club that they're swinging at everybody.

00:40:56.400 And the fact that they think that this can be a powerful tool against people of all races is in itself an insane thing.

00:41:04.160 Absolutely. Go on.

00:41:05.980 Oh, sorry. Did you have more say there?

00:41:06.980 No, I mean, really, the only thing just to add there is that we saw that a little bit in the 2020 election to, you know, the Rio Grande Valley in Texas had swung for Trump, which historically has always been this like Hispanic Mexican blue belt inside of Texas.

00:41:20.240 And they went red in 2020.

00:41:21.820 And the next thing that we saw from The Washington Post in the coming days was multiracial whiteness. 0.80

00:41:26.000 Right.

00:41:26.600 You know, so like, again, for for the progressives, like white people, people of European ancestry, whatever they can call that or even passing, you know, you're there.

00:41:35.080 But that's the enemy. That's the enemy camp that they want you to never associate with.

00:41:39.440 Yeah, it's like Asians who want to get into college. 1.00

00:41:42.120 They're suddenly white as well. 0.97

00:41:43.280 It's it's the minute that you're you're joining any of the the groups on the other side, you suddenly use your lose your magical status and become one of the evil multiracial whites. 1.00

00:41:56.860 All right. On the contrary, this biological desire reinforces norms that we are explicitly aiming to dismantle.

00:42:02.440 Well, well, it's nice when they say it out loud.

00:42:06.720 Right. Yeah.

00:42:07.660 It's always appreciated when it's formalized.

00:42:10.300 Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:10.760 So so here we are.

00:42:11.800 So so just just black and white.

00:42:14.740 They they are trying to dismantle these norms.

00:42:18.580 They are trying to dismantle the family.

00:42:20.260 They are trying to dismantle the authority of parents over their children.

00:42:23.580 They're trying to dismantle the idea of a connected society.

00:42:27.420 They are trying to isolate people.

00:42:30.480 They are trying to create hatred.

00:42:31.740 They are trying to create the ability of the state to wield power over every aspect of human life and separate all individuals from each other in any bond that is not chosen explicitly by the state for these individuals.

00:42:45.540 And they just come out and say it right here.

00:42:47.980 Sorry, but your desire to be biologically connected.

00:42:51.580 We are explicitly aiming to dismantle it because it allows other things that we are explicitly dismantling.

00:42:59.840 It places undue emphasis on genetic similarity as a criterion for ethical relationships.

00:43:04.680 Running against our stated hopes to expand our nets of responsibility and care beyond borders of nations, ethnicities and cultures.

00:43:11.700 Something to say here, guys, just to stop and be clear, as as Christians, we should treat other people with dignity.

00:43:26.340 We should treat them with the love demanded by our faith.

00:43:31.620 However, those that claim to love everyone in this sense.

00:43:38.340 Love no one.

00:43:39.920 Right.

00:43:40.120 You have to love the people next to you first.

00:43:43.000 The commandment is not love everyone and ignore your neighbor.

00:43:46.760 Right.

00:43:47.240 And so the idea that you can simply expand this net of love and dependency to everybody.

00:43:57.600 Is just not true.

00:43:59.500 That's just not how humans work.

00:44:01.240 That's not how they organize themselves in communities.

00:44:04.120 That doesn't mean that you don't still have a duty to offer care and respect to the to others.

00:44:12.580 But that does not mean that you simply dissolve the natural bonds between, say, a parent and child.

00:44:19.560 And you can see the left's continual push of this doesn't stop at the nation.

00:44:24.560 It doesn't stop at ethnicity.

00:44:26.620 It doesn't stop anywhere.

00:44:27.900 It's going straight to the family.

00:44:30.840 That's always where it was going to go.

00:44:33.040 And that is the danger of this rhetoric.

00:44:35.160 That's always where they wanted to go.

00:44:36.980 It cloaks itself in the idea of trying to stop people from treating each other badly, depending on how they look.

00:44:44.400 But it's always aimed at eventually just destroying the most basic natural bonds between something like a mother and their child or a father and their child.

00:44:53.940 And we can see it right here.

00:44:55.080 This idea that we're, oh, well, we have to get rid of biological relationships between families because if we don't do that, we can't universalize our love for people.

00:45:05.240 That means that because you can't universalize it, that's never going to happen.

00:45:09.720 They're just using it to wield power and destroy any care for each other. 0.94

00:45:14.400 Yeah, it's been a rather wild turn of events in the last 150 years when considering, I think, of Charles Dickens' Bleak House, you know, that telescopic sympathy.

00:45:26.060 What's her name?

00:45:26.540 Mrs. Bletchley, I think, has.

00:45:28.220 And, you know, she ignores the plight of her own home, her own family, and her own children.

00:45:34.380 And, you know, she focuses on those that are suffering abroad.

00:45:38.260 And we've gone from telescopic sympathy to, in this instance, you know, microscopic and genetic sympathy.

00:45:43.900 You know, not everyone can be loved in a society that has erased its borders, erased its, you know, demographics. 0.99

00:45:51.120 You know, we have to eliminate that on a microscopic and genetic scale.

00:45:55.320 And that has to be done.

00:45:56.960 I mean, this is the kind of millenarianism that, you know, almost every Christian doctrine goes against.

00:46:05.420 So, like, this is not something that, you know, anyone should be on board with as a Christian.

00:46:09.960 This isn't something that anyone should be on board with if you're a conservative or someone on the right.

00:46:13.840 But for them, you know, it's no longer about looking abroad.

00:46:17.460 You know, that telescopic sympathy has changed because you brought everyone over.

00:46:20.720 And now we have to make sure that everyone is the same.

00:46:22.980 And it's going to probably look a lot more like a multi-racial, multi-ethnic Harrison Bergeron than it will be anything else.

00:46:31.540 Because to these people, you know, the adopted, and again, that's why I wondered if the author was adopted.

00:46:36.700 Because, you know, if you've never had that experience of being loved by your own kin or, you know, being focused on by your own family or having that extended community where they care for you, then, yeah, you're going to want to rage and destroy it.

00:46:50.460 And I think a lot of it does come down to a semblance of envy or an ordeal of civility that, oh, these people have a functioning society and they've made it work and they have a model to make it work and they prioritize themselves and they focus and they have this individualistic attitude about it.

00:47:05.100 But for them, it must be destroyed because they never either had it or, B, they recognize that it works and it is a existential threat to their own progressive project.

00:47:14.480 Back to our article here.

00:47:15.820 Instead, it normalizes a certain conception of family that reinforces the parochial categories.

00:47:21.860 So, again, we're just calling the most basic truth about human nature parochial, right?

00:47:27.240 Because there is no human nature.

00:47:28.820 Everybody's a blank slate.

00:47:30.400 Everybody must be made a blank slate so that the regime can reprogram you, can destroy all of your normal ties, all of your natural ties, all of the natural hierarchy that would normally assert itself must be destroyed.

00:47:44.760 If we're going to invert that hierarchy, if we're going to completely rewrite society and bend it to our utopian will.

00:47:51.120 So, I mean, yeah, it normalizes things because they're already normal, right?

00:47:55.560 It's just a naked hatred for natural law.

00:48:00.800 It's for a similar reason that bioethicists, I knew we'd get a bioethicist we didn't like,

00:48:06.120 Hain Hutut Mwang, okay, have pushed back against the desire for prioritizing racial sameness when selecting gametes for assisted reproduction.

00:48:17.000 Arguing that this practice ultimately perpetuates a particular normative conception, a family that places undue emphasis on resemblance based on racial traits.

00:48:29.100 Again, we were always getting here.

00:48:30.560 Using things like biological similarities to ground a parent-child relationship deconstructs the notion that parents should love their children unconditionally, undermining what the scholar Rosalind McDougall calls the parental virtue of acceptance.

00:48:48.880 So notice that once again, what we've got here is the classic like Gnostic move here.

00:48:57.400 We're going to take this principle that is rooted in something that is real and biological, that you do have a duty to love your children.

00:49:05.160 And we're going to completely remove it from its foundational core, the truth that birthed it.

00:49:13.180 And we're going to say that you must believe this even if it's completely removed from that thing.

00:49:18.520 So you must continue the desirable behavior, even if we've removed it from the thing that bound you to that duty in the first place.

00:49:25.920 And so now the state has the ability to force you, right?

00:49:30.260 This is basically what they're saying.

00:49:31.680 We're going to force you to randomly select a child, right?

00:49:35.300 It's not even going to be connected to you.

00:49:38.260 And we're going to force you to love it no matter what, even though you have no natural connection to it, even though the thing that birthed the principle on which we're trying to call forth, call you forth, has been completely separated from that. 0.97

00:49:49.480 We're going to kill God and then we're going to demand that you continue to be a Christian. 1.00

00:49:52.600 We're going to kill biological parenthood, but we're going to demand you to be a loving parent. 1.00

00:49:57.560 We're going to remove the organ and we're going to demand the function while creating men without chess. 1.00

00:50:04.060 This is always the desire.

00:50:07.500 And they just keep finding kind of new ways to produce this, new ways to attack any remnant of this in society.

00:50:15.020 Right. Yeah. And I like I mentioned earlier, you know, like you have to they want a society of cuckoo birds at this point, you know, like we're going to force you to raise something that's not yours.

00:50:26.120 Sorry, you're going to have to put up with it. What are you going to do about it?

00:50:28.820 All these sort of this shows you the power of narrative, but also really, I think, more importantly, the force of the gun, because, you know, say they got this right and you don't want this.

00:50:38.360 Well, you know, you're going to meet all the sort of social policing incentives to obey in the same reason why we see the ways in which tyranny emerges, not just by gunpoint, but by coercion and by cancellation, deplatforming and debanking with people.

00:50:54.360 From Nigel Farage, even people that you may not like or politically agree with, that just tends to be the case here.

00:51:00.220 And so, you know, there's that force of both syringe and gun that says, actually, no, you're not going to have kids that look like you.

00:51:07.180 Sorry, Whitey. Like that. That to me is what this person is just screaming for. 1.00

00:51:10.720 And I I'm noticing again, you know, very clearly from the odious bioethicists, which if you ever see a bioethicist, it's the ethical thing to do to defenestrate them.

00:51:19.760 Like this is the sort of society that you're you're going to have to put up with, whereas there is a ethnic agitation to say, actually, you know, resemblance and sameness, saying that he's got his mother's eyes.

00:51:31.640 They find that evil and they don't want that for you and they don't want that for people that look like you.

00:51:36.260 And they're making it very clear written out in this article, like I'm not being an extremist or anything.

00:51:41.860 I'm just reading what these people are saying and drawing the logical conclusion of their thoughts.

00:51:45.540 They literally you typed it out for you guys. There's there's no there's no need to do the conspiracy theory here.

00:51:50.940 It's just they are in black and white. Moreover, the argument that this genetic tie has unique intrinsic value because of its natural steps into particular particularly dangerous territory.

00:52:01.500 So, again, nature is dangerous, but nature is also a justification.

00:52:05.160 Remember, guys, like if a desire is natural, then it's good if the left likes it.

00:52:10.980 But if if a desire is something they don't like, then nature is dangerous.

00:52:14.460 And of course, it's going to get us closer to, you guessed it, white supremacy.

00:52:18.160 It's precisely this argument that has been used for decades to discredit same sex couples as unfit to be parents.

00:52:24.180 So, again, we have to dismantle the idea of heterosexual parentage in order to to lift up the idea of homosexual parentage. 0.64

00:52:36.520 Right. That's in order to raise up one, we must hold down the other.

00:52:40.060 Again, always where this kind of stuff was going, it's the natural evolution of this stuff.

00:52:45.800 You have to desacralize the normal, the natural, the biological if you're going to elevate that which is not.

00:52:54.300 And so, you know, again, everything that the religious right said was going to happen in the 1990s was, if anything, a understatement of kind of what was going to come.

00:53:03.900 How could we see this coming? Because it was obvious.

00:53:06.760 Everybody was warned about it. They said, you know, a lot of people said it would never happen.

00:53:09.940 They made fun of the people who told them that it that it would because those people are often in trailer parks, that kind of thing.

00:53:14.880 But here we are with someone explicitly saying we have to get rid of biological parentage because we have to elevate same sex couples.

00:53:22.800 An appeal to naturalism also easily leads into the what the bioethicist, man, these guys are everywhere, calls a patriarchal prejudice.

00:53:33.560 The idea, of course, it's the patriarchy.

00:53:36.260 You know, the idea that it's not only natural for mothers to serve as primary caretakers because of their biological gestational relationship with the child language around what is natural and unnatural should always be viewed with suspicion.

00:53:49.640 Ethnographic research of the tribe in the Himalayas do not have a social category for biological fathers, for instance, shows us that a concept as fundamental to us as fatherhood is not inevitable product of human biology.

00:54:07.720 So we found one tribe somewhere in the middle of the Himalayas that doesn't have exactly the same version of this as we do.

00:54:14.800 Therefore, father's no real. Right.

00:54:17.460 Yeah, I'm just imagining the typical sort of like soy jack pointing at something. 1.00

00:54:21.740 See, we found one that disproves the norm throughout of all of civilized societies.

00:54:26.160 Like, see, this means that your thesis is incorrect.

00:54:29.600 We must destroy everything.

00:54:30.900 We must.

00:54:31.660 And I you know, I don't care what what I get called for.

00:54:35.000 I don't want to be them.

00:54:36.480 Sorry.

00:54:36.900 I like who I am.

00:54:37.960 And I don't want to see my society be like, yeah, we're going to live like these guys.

00:54:41.800 I have no concept of parenthood.

00:54:44.300 Patriarchy built the West, both pre-Christian and post, you know, in our Christianity and post-Christianity. 0.94

00:54:50.240 Patriarchy is great. 1.00

00:54:51.260 It works.

00:54:52.320 The concept of fatherhood is wonderful.

00:54:53.560 And these people are pointing to some obscure tribe in the Himalayas that until just 30 seconds ago,

00:54:59.900 I did not know existed to disprove the idea that fatherhood is the way.

00:55:04.180 If you want to be like the French and get rid of paternity tests because of their own licentiousness, fine. 1.00

00:55:09.300 I get it.

00:55:10.220 Let the French be French. 0.96

00:55:11.600 But this is saying, no, we must re-engineer the entirety of society because you exist with your biological sameness and your communitarianism.

00:55:19.800 That has to go away.

00:55:21.160 And instead, you're going to be like these guys living far up in the mountains.

00:55:24.600 And that's their, you know, and no one takes this seriously.

00:55:28.120 I'm not taking it seriously because that justification is so thinly veneered that I just have to like scrape at it.

00:55:34.900 And no, really, you know, if the mask comes off like they've already said, nah, they just don't want you to have kids that look like you.

00:55:41.000 They don't want you to be like fathers.

00:55:42.320 We want you to totally rewire your entire social, you know, sociological, biological, and political upbringing to say you're going to be like these tribesmen now. 0.95

00:55:52.600 You're not going to be grounded in anything that could organize a resistance to us.

00:55:57.220 So, yeah, alighting the social phenomenon of parenthood with a biological phenomenon only sets us up to reinforce a dated concept of family at odds with our hopes for more inclusive ethics.

00:56:11.920 Our is doing a lot of work here.

00:56:15.980 Who is desire for this?

00:56:19.040 You know, ours, apparently.

00:56:20.960 Not at all.

00:56:21.680 But again, once again, just speaking it into being right, just just willing the the political opinion, the public opinion into being in real time.

00:56:31.980 We've also got some some climate doomerism here.

00:56:35.020 They're more pragmatic, utilitarian reasons we might be opposed to biologialism.

00:56:40.440 After all, the desire for related children undermines likelihood someone will adopt.

00:56:45.300 Yeah, because, again, I'm sure they're very worried about adoption.

00:56:47.880 I want to skip down here a little bit because they talk about one more thing I want to hit on.

00:56:51.680 They're just going to restate a lot of stuff here.

00:56:53.920 Perhaps the most extreme form of this argument comes from antinatalists who roughly hold that not only should we adopt when we can, but this is immoral to bring children into this world.

00:57:04.100 So, yeah, they finally got to the point that, like, basically, it's immoral to have children because my climate.

00:57:10.200 Right. We have to you have to stop having children right now because otherwise because life is meaningless.

00:57:15.140 The world is nothing but suffering and the climate is being destroyed.

00:57:19.720 And so you must have must not have children right now.

00:57:23.400 Otherwise, you're destroying the planet.

00:57:25.300 I don't I think that that speaks for itself.

00:57:31.600 It really does. Yeah.

00:57:33.440 We knew that argument was coming.

00:57:35.180 But but but I just I'm just glad that they they just decided to stop by the nihilism thing here and give it a swing. 0.81

00:57:40.900 We've thrown out every it's you're racist, you're sexist, it's the patriarchy, it's white supremacy.

00:57:46.740 And now it's it's also the climate. 0.98

00:57:48.500 And it's it would all just be better if you weren't born.

00:57:51.600 Not us. We're the good people.

00:57:52.780 We're the journalists.

00:57:53.600 We're not we're not going to shuffle off this mortal coil in order to save the planet.

00:57:58.800 But you, you know, the chuds out there, stop stop having the babies. 1.00

00:58:02.900 So we're going to wrap it up there, guys, because they just kind of repeat themselves over and over again. 0.98

00:58:07.800 It's a little more about why it's evil and white supremacist.

00:58:12.000 Yeah, they're this part right here.

00:58:14.080 I'll just read this real quick so we can get this in before we go to our questions here.

00:58:18.840 Decentering genetics should have also also have repercussions that ripple out far beyond the family unit.

00:58:24.060 Genetic province has long been used as a tool to construct and hold white hegemony. 0.97

00:58:28.840 I remember only white people want to have children that are biologically related to them.

00:58:33.860 Very interesting.

00:58:34.740 You have you ever seen the clip of Muhammad Ali talking about this?

00:58:38.280 I don't know if you've ever seen that clip where he gives the interview.

00:58:41.500 No, I haven't.

00:58:42.540 Yeah. Muhammad Ali goes on like a 15 minute rant that kind of blows away.

00:58:47.000 Like the TV host is talking about talking to because he just has no idea what to say because there's this famous black guy.

00:58:54.540 And he's just saying like, yeah, of course, you should only have, you know, children with people of your race. 0.99

00:58:59.900 Like, of course, you want your children to look like you. 0.60

00:59:01.900 Like, of course, you had like and the guy just doesn't, you know, he's just awkwardly. 0.99

00:59:04.960 And he's like in Muhammad Ali's like, what kind of idiot wouldn't know that? 0.96

00:59:09.320 And like the guy is just like I like he just freezes up. 0.99

00:59:12.500 And so like pretending like this is just a white thing, like white people invented this idea is just adorable here. 0.84

00:59:20.980 But oh, sorry.

00:59:24.760 I went to the article link there.

00:59:28.860 OK, there we go.

00:59:30.620 But think of think of this as the legacy of the one drop rule that was erected around whiteness, around logic of ancestral purity. 0.83

00:59:39.140 The desire for biological ties in many ways can easily legitimize a racially inflected obsession with genetic history.

00:59:47.540 So, again, like this is all, you know, the notion of racial purity is foreign to black folks.

00:59:53.280 That's interesting.

00:59:54.060 People should ask.

00:59:54.760 Oh, really?

00:59:55.480 All about that.

00:59:56.620 How does what is Rachel Dolezal's experience with that notion?

01:00:02.360 That's very interesting.

01:00:03.580 Yeah. 0.89

01:00:03.760 Five minutes on black Twitter and they'll tell you don't hate white people, you know, like and also like this is the one drop rule of white racial hegemony. 0.87

01:00:11.160 Yeah.

01:00:11.300 Tell me how much the Japanese really want you to marry a Korean woman like it's or Jewish people want you to marry or Jewish or Jews wanting to marry outside of like the outside of their own group. 0.96

01:00:22.920 Like, yeah, I mean, like it's blatantly obvious that this is, you know, all the rhetoric is just targeting white people.

01:00:29.020 Yeah, again, it's insane that they think that by putting this in the lens of that, they could even spread that to other to other races and pretend like that's not something that that, again, a human universal for just having again for just having biological children is is some somehow a weirdly white thing.

01:00:49.720 And doesn't doesn't apply to anybody else.

01:00:51.760 All right.

01:00:52.100 So that said, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.

01:00:54.420 Like I said, they just kind of restate themselves over and over again.

01:00:57.800 We'll just kind of be repeating the same same points here if we continue those last few paragraphs.

01:01:03.080 So let's go ahead and pivot over to the questions of the people.

01:01:07.060 But before we do that, Prudentialist, what should people be looking for from you, sir?

01:01:11.500 Sure.

01:01:12.080 So thanks again, always for having me on, Oren.

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01:01:38.480 All right.

01:01:39.940 Creepo Ruto here for $10.

01:01:42.020 I get these people see everything through class, but it seems like this guy doesn't even know what a child is.

01:01:49.040 Is that the next question for modernity?

01:01:50.900 What is a child?

01:01:51.800 That will certainly be the question when they're talking about, you know, consent.

01:01:56.500 Yes, that will be the next question.

01:01:58.260 In fact, it's already the question that they're desperately trying to ask, unfortunately.

01:02:02.740 Very terrifying.

01:02:04.240 But yeah, I think that is the question that's going to be up on the block.

01:02:08.480 Simplar here for $5.

01:02:11.200 Anytime someone says risk reduction, read I'm evil and want to control you.

01:02:15.320 Yes, 100% safetyism is a desire to smother all individual or community agency and put people under one unified rule.

01:02:25.320 Again here, sir.

01:02:26.200 Thank you very much for $5.

01:02:27.620 Oh, you were born that way.

01:02:28.900 Then it sounds like you need to be born again.

01:02:31.020 Again, yeah, again, the very Christian notion that the things that you are desirous of, some of the natural desires you have aren't healthy, aren't good.

01:02:42.120 And so, you know, sometimes those things are things to be resisted, but sometimes they're also part of kind of the way that God has ordered society.

01:02:50.700 And the way to understand that is, you know, it turns out that there's a whole book about it, you know, that you can kind of read and understand, you know, how you should understand those relations to each other.

01:03:01.160 Yeah, absolutely.

01:03:02.980 Mike Oxlong here for $20.

01:03:04.360 I've come to believe that creating demonic dialects such as the one in the article is a way that midwit journalists and academics pretend to be intelligent ever since this reeks of Reddit skepticism top stream.

01:03:16.500 Well, thank you very much, sir.

01:03:17.620 And yes, you are, of course, correct.

01:03:19.660 I mean, by creating this situation, they try to show that they can dismantle things, that they can get around ideas, that they are smarter than those that came before them.

01:03:29.680 They're also creating that dialectic that divides, that creates the opportunity to generate power and allows them to advance their narrative by destroying kind of all authority that came before.

01:03:41.080 Yeah, I mean, every sentence of this reeks is Reddit skepticism.

01:03:44.860 I mean, just bully nerds. 0.91

01:03:46.960 Any progressive nerd you see, just bully them. 0.97

01:03:49.940 This is what's required of you.

01:03:51.640 Reassertion of the natural hierarchy.

01:03:53.340 Yes.

01:03:54.880 Donnie DeWitt here for $4.99.

01:03:56.520 Iron law of violinism, the more dysfunctional and abnormal a group or concept is, the more the left likes it.

01:04:03.500 The left is the glue that unites them.

01:04:05.100 Yeah, it is, again, this desire to destroy natural hierarchy, to destroy the natural kind of existence of a society, invert it to create power, to elevate those that otherwise might not be on top.

01:04:19.340 This is kind of a core function of the left.

01:04:21.580 And to do that, they must collapse all existing structures, all spheres of authority that would have been left over from kind of that more natural, you know, way of life.

01:04:32.420 And this is certainly a example of that.

01:04:36.140 Yeah, Spandrel will stay winning on that one. 1.00

01:04:38.360 Yeah.

01:04:38.800 Yep.

01:04:39.000 So, beyond the pale here for $5, my wife and I are having our first kid in a matter of weeks.

01:04:44.020 See, cheers, gentlemen.

01:04:46.300 Well, congratulations, man.

01:04:47.740 Really appreciate it.

01:04:48.640 And big congratulations to you.

01:04:51.060 Best of luck to both of you.

01:04:53.460 You know, you might not get some sleep here for a long time, but I feel like, you know, congratulations are most certainly due.

01:05:00.460 So, you are striking out against Wired Magazine, and that's a good place to be.

01:05:05.960 Yep.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - September 05, 2023

A Coordinated Attack on Biological Parents ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 9⧸5⧸23

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