A Very Cozy After Christmas Special | Guests: Good Ol Boyz, Clossington, Furius Pertinax | 12⧸27⧸22
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1 hour and 53 minutes
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Summary
On this episode of After the Holidays with the Good OLD BOYS, the boys are joined by special guests Bogbeef and Myrick from The Good Old Boys and F. Furious Pertnax from the Land of Australia. They discuss their favorite Christmas traditions and talk a little bit about the year that was.
Transcript
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Got a great stream with a bunch of guests I think you'll really enjoy.
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Just have a nice after Christmas special with some of the friends of the show.
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So joining me today, we have Bogbeef and Myrick from the Good Old Boys.
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Of course, everyone here I'm sure is a huge fan of the Good Old Boys, but you should definitely
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And then a blast from the past here, having had Clossington on for a long time, one of the original NRX boys here.
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It's been a while since I've been back on Twitter.
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Unfortunately, the new Jannies haven't been able to nuke me quite yet, but we'll see how it goes.
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Yeah, you need to set up that thing that Academic Agent has going where he just has like nine SAC accounts constantly,
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and he can just jump from account to account in any given time.
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And then we have Furious Pertnax joining us from the land of Australia.
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It's quite the panel on today, so I think we'll have some fun.
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So, you know, we're going to do a couple different things here.
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We've got, obviously, we're going to be talking about Christmas.
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Wanted to get a little bit into a few Christmas traditions and what we talked about a few things last year.
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I think we hit like Christmas movies and things.
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So I'm going to mix it up with some topics this year.
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Also wanted to go ahead and get maybe into a little bit of a, you know, year that was.
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I'll have another stream or two before, you know, the new year comes around.
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But I figure this is a good time to kind of do the year in review thing as well,
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since we're kind of casually in here hanging out together.
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But just wanted to go around the panel here a little bit and maybe get everyone's opinion on a few things.
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Maybe start out with some Christmas traditions that are a little unusual or particular to your region or family.
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So my wife's family in particular is very musical and we're in the South.
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So if you they they didn't get to it this year that they did a little bit.
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But if you hang out long enough at the house, it's only a matter of time before bluegrass breaks out.
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And so you usually end up with a with a large number of people just grabbing, you know,
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random instruments or playing through different songs, different stuff.
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Sometimes it's just James Taylor, that kind of thing.
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But sometimes it gets into bluegrass and that's always really entertaining for me.
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But Bobby, what's something you guys do at Christmas, maybe a little bit different?
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One one that I didn't I didn't know that we had a Normie thing going on.
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Well, I don't know about Normie, but so I had no I had no idea that this was the thing.
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But I just know on Christmas, the men sit outside and shuck oysters and the ones that are good for stew.
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We set them set them aside and, you know, grandma makes them into oysters, too.
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I just thought this was something we did because we're kind of, you know, water swamp people.
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I didn't see until Benjamin Braddock posted a tweet about like this is a thing.
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This is like this is a big tradition in the South.
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OK, so I'll have to actually explain what Scrapple is.
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But to answer the Christmas question, usually my family just I have a rather large extended family and they all come over from various states and crash at my parents' place.
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We don't have any particularly like particularly like interesting traditions, but I think I need to explain what Scrapple is and what the authentic Pennsylvania cuisine is.
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So what Scrapple is, is cornmeal plus all the pieces of the cow or pig that usually you don't want to eat.
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And it's like a it's like a it's like a it's like a combination of like the meat around pig hooves and the penis and around the organs.
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It's you know, if you slice real thin and you like sizzle it on a pan, you can make a nice sandwich out of it.
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But it's it's it's just a Pennsylvania delicacy.
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You can find it throughout Appalachia because, you know, a lot of the same people that settled in Pennsylvania went down through the other side of the Appalachia Mountains down in, you know, West Virginia, North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee.
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Like it's the it's a sort of I was always under the impression that it was a sort of Pennsylvania Dutch thing.
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But I mean, it might be sort of Appalachian thing.
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It's a it's a kraut thing and a lot of krauts in that area when the nations at the before the nations founding, you know, the early 1700s.
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I was going to say I have a lot of extended family out of Tennessee and I've never heard of this.
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So this has to be a very particular sub sub grouping there because because I was unfamiliar.
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Well, being a being a med stuck out in the in the upside down land, I guess for us, it's a case of maintaining traditions in absentia.
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Because for anyone who knows, Italians don't get born in hospitals.
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So we spend we spend, you know, a couple of days cooking prior to Christmas and and like I've explained on streams before, most parts of Australia tend to resemble like if you can imagine the climate of, say, Arizona, New Mexico.
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You know, once you sort of leave the south coast, it tends to sort of be warm, quite warm and quite dry.
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So our cuisine is quite different from what you tend to have in the north.
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You know, in a in a cozy, cold winter environment, you'll have, you know, like puddings and spicy cakes and mulled wine and, you know, big roast turkeys or, you know, roast beef or whatever.
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We tend to have a lot of seafood because it's more sort of climatically sensible.
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So lots of lots of like grilled prawns and grilled fish.
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And we do make a ham anyway, because I suppose we're still European and lots of biscuits.
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And we tend to have a lot of desserts as well, because obviously it's cold and desserts are refreshing.
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But after about three days of that, I kind of feel like I need a wheelchair to get around my own house.
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So I'm glad Christmas only comes around once a year.
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Yeah, my father-in-law decided to make biscuits and gravy, sausage gravy for Christmas breakfast, which was, yeah, you can't really move after two servings of that.
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Actually, on that note, I should probably make an exception because if you Americans are here, when I say biscuits, I refer to them in the British sense.
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So like cookies, rather, not your savory biscuits.
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Actually, I did want to watch it because I want to see if Charlie took a different angle from his mom.
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But I actually missed the speech, so I'm also a bad subject of the crown.
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All right, Merrick, anything you want to share Christmas tradition-wise?
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We had a lot of people who had to work on Christmas Day, so we always celebrate on Christmas Eve.
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And, you know, we'll get like a nice Virginia Smithfield country ham, maybe some Pond Hoss, get some pumpkin rolls for dessert.
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Or if you're my dad, Bad Santa, he watches that every damn year.
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And it's not the most wholesome Christmas fair, but that's how we do it.
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Now, not to get too deep into the Christmas movies, because this one is a little overused, but I am interested in people when it comes to It's a Wonderful Life.
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I feel like the movie has either gained a mythical status or, like, people can't stand it.
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And, Bob, where do you stand on the It's a Wonderful Life question?
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Have you also never been exposed to Christmas classics?
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No, I think I've watched It's a Wonderful Life at least 20 times.
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Like, as we all know, It's a Wonderful Life was a box office failure.
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And it ended up bankrupting the studio that actually produced it.
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So what happened was there was a bidding war where there weren't any bids for the IP to It's a Wonderful Life.
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And so what ended up happening was it went into the public domain.
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And so these television channels could just play it on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day without actually having to pay any sort of royalties for licensing.
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It's it has a very it's very cozy and has its own sort of rustic charm.
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But if I was like 40 and I watched it every single Christmas, I think I might end up hating it because of how like schmaltzy it is.
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Yeah, I'm probably one in every two or three Christmas viewer at this point.
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There are certain like Christmas movies that will aggravate you like like a Christmas story will probably aggravate you just because I can watch it.
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So I know I know there's a lot of hate for it now.
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Like, I think most of the hate comes from the from the the merchandising and the sort of boomer tier memes that come out of it, where everybody knows the knows the lines and the punchlines.
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But I mean, I feel like if you space these movies out like every three years or every two years, you'd be fine.
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You need like a rotation so you can let everything cool down at least a year or two.
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Like, if there's like one movie that doesn't really get old, like I really like Christmas Vacation.
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Furious, where do you stand on on the wonderful life question?
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Yeah, I'm also in the space it out sort of category.
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Whereas, for instance, I if I see, say, you know, Die Hard on I'll watch every Christmas because I do insist that.
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But, yeah, the the I'm definitely in the one to sort of two to three year camp with with that question or for sure.
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This year has been particularly annoying because social media, they I haven't seen.
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I'm sure they've done it before, but for some reason, I guess all the NPCs picked up on it where the well.
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Well, there's a scene where he finds out that Mary became a spinster librarian if he wasn't born.
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And I think that's very sexist because maybe she would be happier, you know, in her ugly ass coat in in the in the slum Potterville, you know, working as a librarian.
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And, you know, the in the her role in the entire movie is how much she loves having her family.
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And, you know, she she she like helps helps work at the back at the building and loan.
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Right. Like like Mary's not a fringe character in the real narrative.
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But they, you know, they have to try to ruin everything.
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Like the the last act of It's a Wonderful Life is set in a sort of alternate universe where a main character has been removed from existence.
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And, you know, he goes through the process, you know, his brother died because he wasn't there to save him.
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Nobody has houses and the town is degenerate because he didn't actually prop up the local businesses.
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And now everybody is is promiscuous and degenerate.
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Degenerate. And the crescendo of it all is that his wife is a librarian who is unmarried and has glasses and a in a ponytail.
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And that's the worst thing out of all these horrific alternate reality like elements.
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It's I don't know. I think it's I think it's a good like last like twist of the knife to realize, you know, I had the perfect woman and then she became an old maid librarian.
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She's like she's like a frumpy librarian, you know, drinking wine and living her best life or whatever.
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She's all hunched up and super anxious about everything and just clearly miserable.
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And I think made her is unattractive as you could make Donna Reed.
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Right. It's like this is the it's the very like there's not even subtext.
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It's just text. This is the this is the bad outcome.
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But there it's it's almost like they I guess now that is an aspirational thing.
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Like, hey, imagine if you could get a job as a librarian.
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What a terrible what a terrible civilization where librarian is an aspirational outcome.
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You could sweep the hobos out of the Pottersville library on Christmas Eve.
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Well, I think the Pottersville thing is a big part, too.
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Right. Like it's it's she's living as part of this society.
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Right. This Pottersville society is what is what makes it particularly her.
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I think in another movie like I noticed it this year, but in the 80s, I think was what's the main character from It's a Wonderful Life called George Bailey, George Bailey.
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He would have been cast as the bad guy because this summer I watched Poltergeist and the main theme of the movie is don't develop land on graveyards.
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And now this is exactly what George Bailey does, like in order to get around the sort of monopoly man's stranglehold on real estate.
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He starts developing like game land and graveyards and and all of the all of the trashy parts of town into these cheap suburbs.
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Single family dwelling suburbs, the most evil thing you could do.
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It would be very nice if I could actually afford one.
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And we had a few of these IRL George Bailey's, but not really.
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By the way, librarians, librarians, they're due for a lot.
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They're sorry. So in the audience is their mother's librarians.
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So you might want to mute this part, but librarians deserve a lot more abuse than than they get.
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You know, there's this thing people talk about with the Hick Lib.
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You know, they say, like, wow, I went to a rural area and there was someone driving around with a with a Joe Biden sticker on their car and they're wearing Birkenstocks.
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And like, how could this possibly happen in a rural area?
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Well, let me tell you, those rural areas have places called public libraries.
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They don't they're not nobody, no redneck in that town gives them a dollar or, you know, and they hate they hate everyone there, but they can't leave because that's where they get their check.
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And on top of this, the libraries are up to so much bull.
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There's this book that the people read in library school that tells them how to like, I don't know, people know.
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So when they get books in, a librarian has to decide what book to keep or to throw it away.
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Well, they have books that tell them, like, if it's if, you know, if it's a book that promotes like, you know, heterosexuality or one of these things like this, you should you can just throw those books away.
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If someone comes to you asking for for research advice, give them like, you know, super progressive stuff and just ignore other stuff, even if it's wrong.
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You see these these books by by liberal people that you were like, who would read that book?
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And they're just like, oh, you know, if, you know, some YouTube, some bread to start has a has a book.
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All the libraries will just buy a thousand copies.
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Yeah, you're you're the person buying it if you pay taxes.
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Yeah, they just pitch all the Pat McCannon and Thomas Solon, the wood chipper, so they can replace it with whatever random bread to book came out that month.
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It is the patient zero for the Hicklid contagion.
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I like they're like little you in, you know, missions placed inside red states.
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You know, this is this is where the blue blue helmets are stationed inside of your your deep red.
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But do you guys actually know how these libraries are like what metric they use to actually determine whether they're doing well or not?
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How many how many homeless people are masturbating in their computer session?
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That's got to be a hell of a spreadsheet, though.
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Like I'm thinking as like my like I'm putting my my German simulate like video game simulator brain on.
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Like, how do you do like a library management simulator game?
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There would be number of number of cards, number of checkouts, number of special event attendees, you know, that kind of thing.
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But I'm just thinking, how would a librarian actually try to increase traffic into a library?
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They don't get any more money, you know, yeah, they don't give a shit.
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No one expected the the librarian hate fest there.
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Are there any movies like Christmas movies set in libraries?
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I'm told there's a lot of pornographic films set in libraries.
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We didn't like like Scrooge was was, of course, you know, a bookish lad who spent all his time in his studies and not celebrating Christmas.
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Well, my next question was going to be can't miss Christmas movies since we got into it real quick.
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So I was just going to go around the panel and see what what's your absolute must watches every year, since we know some people need to take a break from a wonderful life bug.
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What's your what's your absolute must watch every year?
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But I'll just say is the characters, the character, every character, you you know, them like without even thinking about it.
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The best part was the was the the yuppie libtard neighbors.
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Um, I mean, we always see, like, I don't ever choose to put on like a DVD or anything like that.
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And every year, you know, it's a wonderful life, Christmas story, Christmas vacation, Home Alone, Home Alone 2.
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Um, I know there's also the Santa Claus movies that are always on, but I don't know, it's a little little kitty.
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Um, I'm not sure if there are any others on the big, like Christmas, uh, marathon lists.
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It feels like that one fell off a little bit to me, but.
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Like, like what's particularly underrated is, uh, Home Alone 3.
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Um, it's, it, like they, they ditched Kevin McAllister and they replaced it with some new kid.
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And he's trying to stop these evil secret agents who are trying to intercept a North Korean missile chip or something.
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It's, it's bizarre, but it's, you know, it was one of my like childhood favorites.
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Also really underrated, Muppet Christmas Carol.
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No, I, I think, um, if you ever put a Muppet Christmas Carol on like a, like a Twitter poll, uh, for best movies, you'll actually get a surprising number of people.
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Like if you listed all of the Christmas, uh, Carol adaptations, it's almost certainly going to be number one.
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You got any, uh, particular Christmas movie you watch every year?
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Cause I, um, it's interesting that, uh, uh, in the last couple of years, I've actually found that the home alones, particularly one and two have sort of gone into heavier rotation.
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And, uh, I can't remember who, who posted this.
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It was, uh, it would have been last year or it's definitely been the last 12 months anyway.
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And someone said that, um, home alone is like some sort of, uh, sort of semi sort of esoteric analysis of, um, of the resourceful and, uh, intelligent, uh, wasp, uh, you know, being, uh, keeping the hostile Ellis Island coalition out.
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Well, I was wondering if the, the violence against meds, are you offended?
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Do you feel like this is an attack on you and your people?
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I think it's actually a wonderful way to frame it.
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And it's like, it, obviously it's like the meant to be like the skin of some like family movie, but then you sort of look at it with a political context, like such as that.
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And then people like us can appreciate home alone in a whole brand new light.
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So I actually found it amusing when I watched it, um, Christmas Eve.
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I was just like, wow, there's actually, this could have to be perceived as being quite hostile to a minority.
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Well, and then Trump shows up in the second movie.
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Well, Hillary Clinton didn't help, um, uh, Kevin find his room.
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So, you know, Trump's a, Trump's a better person.
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I thought you were going to get into like the, the twin towers of home alone too.
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And, um, yeah, that, that, that stock when you say it, huh?
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It's like, even in the first one, like, um, like one of the characters says like nine 11 when she's counting like the kids and there, there's like constant like twin towers, like symbology in the first one that, uh, a bunch of schizos notice.
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Oh, so is there like a whole mythology based around this?
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Um, another movie that makes a lot of the twin towers, strangely enough, is, um, is the second Crocodile Dundee movie.
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Cause for those who know it, um, the movie actually starts with him living in New York and it's amazing.
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You have all these movies that were filmed in like the late eighties, early nineties that, you know, the twin towers, obviously a huge landmark.
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And then for those of us who lived through or saw nine 11 occurred, it's like, Ooh, those buildings aren't there anymore.
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And that was a, that was a horrible thing that took place.
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But like, but back to an innocent time when they never assumed it would happen, you know?
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Mark, on that happy note, do you, do you have, Oh, sorry.
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Oh, um, I was going to also piggy off of the, uh, the, the Donald Trump reference in, uh, Home Alone 2.
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Um, what doesn't get enough love is, um, is Gremlins 2.
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Now, Gremlins 1 is a little bit too gross to be on, um, on TV stations and 2 is like way too anarchic, uh, to even be in the same like ball, uh, ballpark as, uh, Gremlins 1.
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But Gremlins 2 has, um, has the sort of, uh, big billionaire eccentric guy.
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He's supposed to be, uh, Donald Trump, but, uh, he's just, he's like an eccentric man child, um, who tries to become like a hero by getting rid of the Gremlins that have infested his high-tech, uh, skyscraper.
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It's, um, it's underrated classic, in my opinion.
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Um, he has like some, he has some like pun of a name.
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It's like, um, I'll, I'll look it up real quick.
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Well, while you research, uh, Mark, did you, uh, did I have a, I know you already said Wonderful Life, but anything else or is that the main one?
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We live in Pottersville now, so it's more relevant than ever.
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He, um, he experiments with, he experiments with, uh, rare diseases and cloning and all sorts of shenanigans in, uh, Trump's basement.
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And, uh, it's, it's a very, it's a very underrated movie, in my opinion.
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Well, I think we got, uh, the Christmas movies knocked out here.
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Uh, let's go ahead and take a look at maybe, let's see, we did traditions.
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Uh, oh, uh, Mark sent me a great, uh, Christmas, uh, video.
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Apparently this occurred at a, uh, a waffle house on Christmas Eve here.
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These, these, uh, I'm sure a lot of people in the, uh, audience have seen it.
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Uh, Oran hadn't seen this yet, so I don't know.
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No, I just, I saw the one that you sent me there.
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It's like two minutes plus, but yeah, it's, you can enjoy that afterwards.
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It's, uh, you know, if you're there, you gotta remember, like, you might be there thinking
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like, wow, you know, this is the kind of establishment I normally eat at.
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So like, if you go to the waffle house in Atlanta and versus like the waffle house in
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Appalachia, you would get a different dining experience.
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That stuff don't, that stuff don't happen in our waffle house.
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I mean, people get rowdy, but not like the, not like these, these videos.
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I mean, I live in, uh, I live further to a city than you and, you know, I've been in
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waffle house late at night and, you know, it don't matter where you live, people, people
00:31:20.780
So, uh, you know, they always, they always end up there for the same reason, but yeah,
00:31:27.840
It will always be a place where some of the unexpected happens, but, uh, but it probably
00:31:33.660
can change significantly depending on where, uh, where your waffle housing.
00:31:38.040
So, so I think we should go around and say what our favorite, uh, item from the waffle
00:31:44.060
house menu is like, do you guys actually know off the top of your head?
00:31:49.440
I'm more of a, I'm more of a cracker barrel guy.
00:31:52.100
I mean, obviously like, it's been a long time since I've, I'm an old man at this point.
00:31:57.400
I don't get to too many late night waffle house sessions, you know?
00:32:00.040
So there was the last time I think I went to one where we went to an iron maiden concert.
00:32:08.020
So as you, as a man, as you get older, you start waking up earlier and earlier.
00:32:13.820
Eventually, once you get in like your sixties and stuff, you're getting up at like 3 AM.
00:32:17.640
And then, then you're back in the waffle house.
00:32:20.900
My, my grandfather used to wake up at like four, make himself a full breakfast of sausage
00:32:27.660
and bacon and gravy and biscuits and everything else.
00:32:38.160
You know, it's one of those things like, you know, uh, you know, like when you're, when
00:32:44.080
you're, when you're three and you don't know where babies come from, we're kind of like
00:32:49.080
I'm sure one day we'll be old enough and we'll all make sense.
00:32:51.760
Uh, but you know, I think, you know, who knows one day we'll know the secret of the, of being
00:32:58.560
Well, Bob, what is your, uh, what is your waffle house, uh, choice?
00:33:05.400
And I drowned the plate with like a half inch of a Worcester sauce.
00:33:11.700
Mark, you get me a waffle house favorites or are you like me a Cracker Barrel man?
00:33:15.880
Well, I, I mean, yeah, I don't go to the waffle house a lot, but if I'm going, I'm getting
00:33:23.420
Clossington, you're, uh, I like my, uh, hash brown bowls.
00:33:27.960
So like the, uh, the sausage, egg and cheese, like it's, it's almost always out in like five
00:33:34.720
And, uh, if you're out, uh, at 3 AM and, uh, you, you want some breakfast, you know, five
00:33:42.400
minutes, uh, they'll get you a hash brown bowl and you'll watch, you know, the wildlife
00:33:51.080
Um, I see that there are a few Brits in the, uh, the, in the live chat that don't know what
00:33:57.780
A waffle house is a, uh, cheap 24 seven serve, uh, restaurant that serves breakfast.
00:34:05.140
Um, it's sort of like a hub of, uh, misfits and, uh, and, and, um, and people up, uh, at the
00:34:16.200
early hours in the morning, uh, the staff always has, uh, room temperature IQ.
00:34:22.420
Usually there's a fight, uh, you know, there's like a, it sort of has a folksier vibe.
00:34:33.880
Um, it's a mix of people who stayed up real late and people who got up real early and that's
00:34:43.300
That's people who have chosen poorly in one way or another.
00:34:46.900
If you want a goth GF, you'll see them, uh, hanging around there sometimes, by the way,
00:34:53.240
See now you're just getting it up with half the internet at the waffle house.
00:34:56.020
Yeah, but you don't, you ever been in there and like six goth people walk in for no reason.
00:35:07.140
If you're the audience, if you're, if you're a British person, you come to America, go into
00:35:10.540
the, uh, go into the waffle house, go to the, uh, the big bathroom.
00:35:13.880
You will notice on the side of the toilet, there will be handles on the side.
00:35:19.100
You want to know what those, why, why they have handles on the side of a toilet waffle house
00:35:30.160
Do you have anything that relates to the waffle house?
00:35:32.300
I know this might not, this might be a uniquely American experience, but.
00:35:38.680
So I just, uh, I hear waffle house and I'm just learning what waffle house is about because
00:35:42.680
it's actually one, um, one franchise we don't have, uh, down under.
00:35:46.580
So I'm learning about waffle house on the go and the reasons for having handles are next
00:35:51.520
It's apparently, well, uh, the, the house of pancakes is international.
00:36:01.080
Cause, um, the South Australians and the West Australians are too poor to have them.
00:36:05.120
Oh, that's, that sounds like our kind of people.
00:36:06.780
By the way, never seen anybody order waffles at the waffle house.
00:36:15.660
No, but you can get it with peanut butter and banana, you know, so that's okay.
00:36:24.140
What, uh, what are you, what about the rivalry between the international house of pancakes
00:36:29.580
If you're, if you're opting into one, which way do you go?
00:36:36.280
I think Denny's, uh, Denny's is up there in terms of like scumbaggery.
00:36:45.660
I think Denny's is like on a level all of its own, like somehow even more skeevy than,
00:36:54.980
Oh, but Denny's is like, uh, you don't find Denny's in the deep rural South.
00:36:59.440
You'll find it in like, I mean, there's some, there's some real, uh, you go into like the,
00:37:03.620
the problem with it is like, this is the same clientele are eating there.
00:37:11.880
It's like, it's set up like a, uh, like a kitchen on like a, on like a, uh, you know,
00:37:18.420
They like, they think that this place is like an actual restaurant.
00:37:21.940
You know, it's got like padded chairs and there's like a dining table and stuff, but
00:37:26.320
you're eating in there with, uh, you know, people have done time.
00:37:37.040
They do a full menu of, of stuff and it, yeah, you, you, you don't know what happens in the
00:37:43.240
You're just like, uh, you know, you're praying, you know, hoping, wishing you had another $5
00:37:48.200
So, yeah, I think, I think in, I'm sorry, Paris.
00:37:54.520
Like, I think the, uh, the IHOP versus, um, versus waffle house debacle is like, whether
00:38:00.600
you want to get diabetes from IHOP or high blood pressure from waffle house, like I think
00:38:07.520
that like whatever you're least, like less susceptible to is where you want to go.
00:38:13.140
Ooh, David's known in the audience as he saw a fight at the golden corral the other day.
00:38:16.920
God, I would have, I would have loved to be there with you, David.
00:38:20.720
There's nothing, nothing like a good fight at the golden corral.
00:38:26.520
The rim and the mobility scooters into each other.
00:38:33.020
See, the only place, the only time I regularly went to those places when I was, when we were
00:38:36.600
lifting a lot in college, regular gym all the way in college and then they have the
00:38:41.140
And, you know, we just get like, you know, uh, uh, 10, you know, 19 year old guys who just
00:38:46.620
lifted for two hours and just go in and wreck the, the, all you can eat steak there.
00:38:53.120
Just empty, just empty out the like pro protein Bain Marie's just stocked up or on.
00:38:58.380
Well, we went to the, we went to the, the, I don't know if you guys remember the Ryan's
00:39:07.560
So that's where we went for the all you can eat a steak night.
00:39:16.180
One thing I have to ask about all that I learned about, you know, like in recent years
00:39:20.740
is that, um, see in a, in a, in Australia, we actually have a franchise called the, the,
00:39:25.460
the cheesecake shop, but it's actually legitimately a place where you go to buy cheesecakes and
00:39:32.000
They're essentially just like a, a wholesale distributor for people who want to buy, you
00:39:37.340
And when, when Australians traveled to America, they'd actually realized that your cheesecakes
00:39:41.380
are basically like your cheesecake shops are essentially diners.
00:39:43.900
They're a whole different ball game to the ones that we have here.
00:39:47.080
Um, and we tend to like, sorry, sorry, sorry, cheesecake factory.
00:39:53.320
So, so cheesecake factory as a restaurant is like, it's niche is as like a restaurant outside
00:40:06.780
Uh, they're known for having obscenely large menus where you don't actually know what to
00:40:16.960
So if you're, if you're dating a girl, that's like, you ever date a girl, it's like, she's
00:40:21.060
in college and she's taking some major, you know, where she thinks she's going to be like,
00:40:26.660
you know, uh, she thinks she's going to be wealthy, but she's not, you know, she's going
00:40:30.340
to be like, uh, uh, that sort of aspirational, like little, it's like half college students
00:40:36.820
I know you're just describing college students, but there's just a certain type of, of middle
00:40:40.800
class aspiration that ends up at, at the librarian.
00:40:47.280
So, so it's like you spend like an afternoon at the mall and then you want her to feel
00:40:52.660
like she's like going to an upscale place, but it's not an upscale place.
00:40:59.580
So Cheesecake Factory try, it has the aesthetic of trying to be upscale without being upscale,
00:41:12.460
I've had friends who really like Cheesecake Factory and I don't get it.
00:41:15.060
Like they're like, we have to drive an hour to the Cheesecake Factory and you get there
00:41:18.040
and it's just a massive menu where everything is poorly done.
00:41:21.620
Uh, there's, there's like three things you'd actually want to eat there cause they know how
00:41:25.320
And the rest is just like, you know, good luck.
00:41:27.380
Hope, hope the cook remembers how to do that one.
00:41:31.480
Trying to bring the Australian guy into this, although not really.
00:41:38.260
Uh, you ever go to like the last, every time I've ever been driving past an Outback Steakhouse,
00:41:43.240
that line is wrapped around the building, like three, four times, like people just doing
00:41:48.740
anything they can to get in there to eat, uh, whatever, you know, the Bloomin' Onion
00:41:55.900
I have no idea because it's, it's, it's funny how there are not, there are places in the
00:42:01.000
U S that do this and even Canada where they sort of have steakhouses that try to be Australian
00:42:05.300
steakhouses, like I say, like Outback, whatever.
00:42:12.540
Our diners try so hard to be American steakhouses, but you, your steakhouses try to be Australian
00:42:18.160
This is really kind of interesting sort of mirror image going on between the two countries.
00:42:27.700
I was just going to say like, um, unless you're buying like the sirloins or the New York strips,
00:42:33.260
Like all the steaks are really poorly cooked, which is ironic because the steakhouse, you'd
00:42:37.800
think it's like, it's like the whole, you have one job and that's to cook nice steak.
00:42:42.600
And most of the steaks are not tender, which is defeats the purpose of going after steak
00:42:51.360
Oh, I was just going to say, I finally experienced this.
00:42:53.680
Like I had this surreal moment because, because we, uh, went to Europe, uh, here, uh, a few
00:43:00.920
And so we're in England and they have like authentic American cuisine, you know, places.
00:43:08.040
They had this, um, they had this, uh, fair going on in Hyatt park, which was weird because
00:43:13.260
it's like this winter festival and you go there and it's a carnival, right?
00:43:16.500
But like, it's the nicest carnival you've ever been to.
00:43:19.740
Like the rides don't feel like they were put together by someone on meth.
00:43:22.500
Um, and like all the, all the food is, is actually like of, of decent quality and like, they
00:43:29.180
have like, you know, really real authentic American cuisine and it's very surreal, which
00:43:33.160
it's odd because like they have like KFCs and Burger Kings around, like for some reason,
00:43:37.840
Burger King, very popular, um, outside of the United States, even though most people in
00:43:43.600
Uh, but, but, you know, they have like those, the, those fast food places, restaurants, uh,
00:43:49.300
you know, of course you're like scattered throughout England and in France.
00:43:52.980
Uh, but then they have like these authentic American cuisine things.
00:43:55.840
And so, yeah, I got to have that weird experience of, of seeing, you know, people getting excited
00:44:03.480
Kenny Rogers roast roasters is dead to America, but live in a well, it's internationally.
00:44:13.600
Oh, sorry, I'm just, just quickly, I'm just going to say that what's interesting is when
00:44:17.620
you actually travel in continental Europe and particularly in places say like France
00:44:24.300
It's amazing where they'll put, um, say McDonald's in, in places, for instance, um, there's a McDonald's
00:44:32.380
There's another one really close to Milan train station, which is like a really big, um, it's
00:44:38.900
And it's very close to like this sort of commercial sort of eating restaurant area.
00:44:43.600
Um, and how there's like this dimorphism between young people who literally just want to go
00:44:49.580
to sort of samples like, Oh, it's a close thing we have to an American burger.
00:44:56.140
Often they tend to be of older, slightly older generation, but that sort of scowl at people
00:45:02.460
And it's like, why are you going to like pro sort of, you know, um, GAE for food, you
00:45:10.460
It's like, no, we have the best restaurants in this city.
00:45:13.540
And the young people like, Oh, we just want a burger and chips.
00:45:15.520
Like, it's really interesting that there are two different groups of people that either
00:45:23.260
There, there, it's very jarring that they just drop McDonald's into like classic buildings
00:45:29.240
So like, you'll just be walking by and there, you know, there's all these, you know, little
00:45:35.320
And then just like in this 500 year old building, someone has just dropped a McDonald's and they
00:45:42.160
keep the facade of the building because it's, you know, it's classic and it's built in, but
00:45:49.480
Hey, look, if we have to, if we have to pronounce like burrito and chorizo the right way, he's got
00:45:54.160
to say a burger and fries, not a burger and chips.
00:46:09.360
What's up with, um, like Asian countries and KFC?
00:46:13.680
Like every, every year I see that, like, um, like, no, I don't.
00:46:19.740
Anyone want to tell them the Japanese KFC story?
00:46:29.000
So, so what happened, and this is, this is all a myth that's been handed down to me.
00:46:33.960
So I don't have the, maybe I'm going to just spin a tall tale, but I believe this is the
00:46:38.140
So, you know, post, post-World War II, obviously, like, you know, the, the protectorate of Japan,
00:46:45.680
And like, they start, uh, adopting Christmas, just like we started adopting karate and, but
00:46:52.040
So they don't have any traditions attached to Japan.
00:46:54.980
Uh, you know, there's no, there's no particular, uh, uh, uh, tradition or, or, you know, anything
00:47:02.360
that they have in the context, but they want to start celebrating this, this holiday Christmas
00:47:07.660
And so like some genius in the KFC of Japan marketing agency was like, well, you know
00:47:17.460
And so like, they did this massive marketing campaign, like Coca-Cola with Santa Claus.
00:47:22.120
Like they basically invented KFC at Christmas in Japan.
00:47:25.960
And so like, to this day, like part of Christmas tradition in Japan, even though there's like
00:47:31.760
no real, you know, connection to Christianity or the actual holiday, kind of like America
00:47:36.820
at this point, uh, that they, uh, they, I know that one hurts.
00:47:44.140
So like, like, you know how like the honey baked ham stores start popping up right before
00:47:50.940
Well, that KFCs start popping up and like train stations and stuff where you can like pre-order
00:47:55.700
your, your, your bucket of KFC, uh, so that you're, you and your family can properly
00:48:02.200
You know, that phrase, uh, cultural Marxism, whatever, uh, the only way I can make that
00:48:09.140
make sense in my head of like, think about how that, cause you know, it's like this crazy
00:48:13.020
conspiracy theory used to, you couldn't say it.
00:48:18.720
Remember this Kentucky school, it used to be something where you weren't allowed to
00:48:22.960
say now, not so much, but, um, the only way I can think about it is just thinking about
00:48:30.560
Like we just like, uh, we just like totally set up their culture.
00:48:35.760
Like guys sat around the table and did that, uh, to them.
00:48:42.740
Um, they, they can't see and they, they, and they work, uh, harder than Americans.
00:48:49.580
So, so this is like a, like a counterfactual, but we need to actually impart something onto
00:48:54.420
the one Japanese person listening to this, to the stream.
00:48:57.740
Um, if we could go back in time and replace the, the staple holiday meal of Japan from KFC,
00:49:19.260
So, so we got one Popeye's, uh, like superior to KFC in every way.
00:49:26.380
Have you had the ranch fried chicken at Publix?
00:49:31.760
So they, I don't think they do this anymore, but the, but they, they used, they, for a
00:49:36.140
limited time, they would like dust the fried chicken with a ranch.
00:49:44.700
I normally, uh, uh, you know, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm having wings, I'll get the blue
00:49:48.680
cheese, but, uh, you know, I can say that I wouldn't say this on the air because I know
00:49:52.420
people would go buy them before I could have you, they sold, you know, like, uh, you know,
00:50:00.640
Publix used to sell these bad-ass, uh, green, uh, prison sandals with Publix on them.
00:50:07.220
They haven't, I've been emailing them for years and they're like, we're never going to get,
00:50:16.660
It was trying to get, I have to ask what is a Publix?
00:50:38.060
The further South you go, the more North it gets.
00:50:40.580
Well, I mean, it's true, but like the most Southern place I've ever, like, uh, the places
00:50:46.760
that's most like, uh, if you go down there in South Florida, like Polk County, all those
00:50:52.600
insane stories about the ridiculous rednecks they're on Polk County that's deep down South.
00:50:58.420
I had friends, uh, I lived in, I lived in, in South Florida, Fort Lauderdale, Miami for
00:51:03.880
And, uh, I knew, I knew people that rode horses, had farms and they lived in, I can't think
00:51:09.960
of the name right off to my top of my head anymore, but it was like, it's like right
00:51:14.540
So, I mean, just, uh, the rednecks are in the mix down there.
00:51:18.080
There's a lot of kinds of different kinds of people, but it's not like you're not in
00:51:21.760
If you're, if you're in, in Miami, if you escape the I four 75 corridor, you're, you're
00:51:31.640
The Polk County is like, uh, uh, I wrote an article in, um, and, uh, uh, I am 1776.
00:51:38.040
I don't know if they put that in there, but I was like, this is where like the oblivion
00:51:41.660
Like every person you meet that's totally insane in Florida, you ask where they're from.
00:51:47.080
I now not being, if I'm not being funny, I think it's the poorest place in Florida
00:51:52.480
and perhaps in, in, uh, I don't know, the East coast or something.
00:51:59.680
I thought the panhandle had a really weird reputation.
00:52:09.820
But, um, you know, there's, there's, there's military bases and stuff.
00:52:14.560
You get in the middle of like, remember, this is this, like, uh, if you go down there,
00:52:18.540
we're like, we're talking about in the middle of Everglades, the swamp, there's nothing in
00:52:24.820
So do you know how you, uh, how you kill a gator if you get, uh, cleared for it?
00:52:30.520
If you, if you win the lottery and you get to kill gator during season?
00:52:36.460
Well, no, there's a legal requirement of how you, how you get them.
00:52:41.660
So you're, you have to, that's a shotgun shell on the end of a, on like the end of a stick
00:52:46.640
and you got to like pull the, you know, pull the mechanism and drop it and drop the shell
00:52:51.760
And that's, uh, I believe that's how, yeah, they, they do stuff like that.
00:52:59.760
But I'm absolutely terrified of like these, uh, these gators.
00:53:03.480
Uh, I, I almost ended up moving down to Jacksonville earlier this year.
00:53:08.660
Uh, and I did a bunch of research on how to get a commercial scuba diving license just
00:53:16.100
And there are a ton of pictures of just gators sitting on the bottom of the ocean, you know,
00:53:21.980
just looking up at a poor little, poor little diver.
00:53:31.440
There was a series of shows with people who would play with gators and it was, you know,
00:53:38.160
And then somebody came out with a show that killed all that stuff.
00:53:41.720
It was, I think it was called swamp people where this guy was like, he gets in the water
00:53:45.560
with the gators because a gator on land, they get tired really fast.
00:53:50.040
This guy was just a psycho and he would, he would go swim with the gators and stuff.
00:53:53.280
And that killed like all the other shows like, Oh, we, we walk around with the gator.
00:54:00.420
Like a friend of mine who's, uh, from Louisiana said that, um, like if you're on the bayou
00:54:06.360
in like a boat, uh, these gators will tell you by like 50 feet and just look at you.
00:54:14.100
Like you see the gator, the gator sees you, you're looking at each other.
00:54:18.020
And there's a sort of mutual understanding that as long as you're in the boat, you're
00:54:23.040
But as soon as you hit the water, you're the gators and it's over.
00:54:27.080
And they're these like really, they're these really brash Creek, like creatures that, uh,
00:54:38.540
The thing is they can move really fast for a couple of seconds.
00:54:42.240
Uh, if they're out of the water, I don't know about in the water, but I wouldn't want
00:54:45.960
Uh, I assume them telling the boats, you know, like, uh, sharks and stuff do that.
00:54:49.960
Cause, uh, they'll try to, they try to steal what you're catching and stuff like that.
00:54:55.280
When I was a teenager had a friend who's like, uh, dad had a jet ski or whatever, took us
00:55:00.560
out to the lake and yeah, you just had gators all along the side of the lake.
00:55:03.820
And you just, you know, if you came off the jet ski, you got real good at getting back
00:55:07.120
Cause they all dunked into the lake the minute you hit the water.
00:55:09.360
So, you know, it's, it's just a part of life down here.
00:55:12.700
I've caught one on a line and my, my friend's backyard, you just cut the line.
00:55:16.460
I, I grew up in a shrimp boat and I lived, I lived in the ocean, like my entire youth.
00:55:22.640
And the only thing I was really afraid of was, uh, is jellyfish.
00:55:29.220
Uh, but like, you know, you look at statistics and stuff, the ocean is not really dangerous.
00:55:34.100
I mean, uh, but you definitely can get, get your ass stung.
00:55:38.120
Uh, but yeah, I mean these things, they, they don't really do anything to people very often.
00:55:42.660
Well, now that we've worked our way through, uh, Florida's, uh, wildlife, uh, wanted, wanted
00:55:49.700
to, uh, get into a little bit of year in review before we go, we don't have to get like super
00:55:54.420
political or anything, cause this is mainly a cozy stream, but, uh, wanted, wanted to get
00:55:58.900
people's opinions on kind of what the biggest, uh, event of the year was to you.
00:56:04.100
What do you think was the biggest story, uh, of the year?
00:56:07.620
I'm going to go ahead and steal, uh, Ukraine, uh, early on, uh, just.
00:56:12.660
You know, uh, since it's my show, I get to take the easy one first.
00:56:15.920
Um, but, uh, I would say that that one was probably one of, one of the biggest, uh, ones
00:56:20.760
this year, even though I don't think it had the biggest direct impact on, uh, in some people's
00:56:25.260
minds, it has, has kind of had the most lingering impact throughout kind of our economy and everything
00:56:34.460
What would be your, your big story of the year?
00:56:36.500
Uh, inflation and it's not like a thing that punches this year, like a war or something,
00:56:43.960
but you know, uh, this would be, if we have another year like this, then we will have something
00:56:53.320
And, you know, now you're talking about a story that's not even a year story.
00:57:02.560
How about the, uh, the end of Ropey Wade and, um, yeah, and the immediate, uh, political
00:57:09.800
fallout of that, um, like there's a whole lot of work to be done on that front.
00:57:15.880
I feel like that one kind of had is kind of the back burner due to the like implications,
00:57:22.780
Like there's, there's a bunch up front, but I think from a lot of people that's fallen behind,
00:57:28.080
but is probably, like you said, something that will, that will crop back up again here
00:57:32.540
when, when different pieces of legislation thing hit the fan, maybe you could tell us,
00:57:38.300
I mean, so obviously this didn't change anything.
00:57:41.100
Uh, is, is there a lot of abortions that didn't happen because that decision yet?
00:57:49.180
Like, I think the, I mean, I'm certain there has been some amount, I mean, a lot, obviously
00:57:53.020
we had all the companies like, well, we'll, you know, helicopter you in.
00:57:56.740
We'll, you know, we'll send the Huey to get you to a, to a different state.
00:58:00.320
So, I mean, how, how much of a deterrent is that, you know, we'll really have to see the
00:58:05.800
net, let the numbers roll in over the next couple of years.
00:58:08.080
There is value in keeping these things out of your state's borders.
00:58:12.840
Even if, you know, even if people can just go across state lines to do it, you're not
00:58:18.360
And like this, this applies to a lot of these different things.
00:58:22.560
You don't have the power to stop it everywhere, but you can keep it away from your people.
00:58:28.580
The main reason I asked is I used to live basically, I used to live near an abortion
00:58:34.500
So I knew, you know, I could see them out there and stuff.
00:58:42.240
Furious, what would be your biggest story of the year?
00:58:45.900
Um, I actually had to double check because for some reason I thought that, um, I thought
00:58:50.960
the fall of Kabul was actually early this year, but it was in fact last year.
00:58:54.340
So, cause I, I kind of thought that that was an interesting, um, I suppose that did lead
00:58:58.300
to perhaps the outbreak of Ukraine, Russia thing, which you have cited, but no, it was
00:59:05.940
Um, I think that there's an interesting inter, inter, um, sort of interrelation between,
00:59:12.820
you know, what, about, um, what, two months ago, we were sort of seeing these memes about,
00:59:19.220
you know, Trump's truth, social Elon's Twitter and ye with his, um, with his app.
00:59:25.060
Well, he ended up buying parlor, did he, or was it, was that, I think if, I think they
00:59:28.780
fell through my, my, uh, my, my, uh, conspiracy theory is that, uh, ye saw the, uh, I'm just
00:59:37.880
Uh, when, when he, uh, when he saw the, uh, uh, numbers for parlor and he actually like
00:59:44.140
figured out what he was getting into, that's why he started popping off on all the, all
00:59:47.360
the programs open to like, like if I get crazy enough, maybe they'll, they'll dump me and
00:59:52.100
I don't have to actually buy, buy this thing that that's my, my conspiracy theory.
00:59:55.960
The subject of the house of Windsor and it's not the queen.
01:00:06.500
I was going to say, there's a few things that have happened and I think, um, yeah, that's
01:00:11.160
But, uh, but yeah, I think, um, I think there's, uh, I think those couple of things
01:00:16.520
I just think, um, with the sort of Twitter thing, you know, we've seen thankfully quite
01:00:24.520
Um, you know, it's nice to see Closington actually be on Twitter for more than 10 minutes,
01:00:28.000
which is, but you know, we've obviously seen many accounts reinstated and particularly like,
01:00:32.700
you know, we think of the events of last year revolving the, um, you know, around the,
01:00:37.120
the, the cuff and the, you know, what associated with it, you know, it's actually nice seeing
01:00:40.840
people who were trying to speak out actually be reinstated, whether it's damage control, whether
01:00:46.540
But I think, um, I think this Twitter story has a lot more, um, nooks and crannies, you
01:00:52.160
know, turns left and right before we get to sort of like an end destination.
01:00:55.680
So it'll be interesting to see how it transpires into 2023.
01:00:58.940
Um, actually just in the chat, someone did also mention that the FTX scandal, but whether
01:01:04.740
Um, you know, when you sort of hear that, um, Mr. Bankman Freed is going to the same prison
01:01:09.080
as Jeffrey Epstein, I don't think it bodes well for that man.
01:01:15.840
Good time for him to clarify that he does not have any information that would lead to
01:01:22.120
Also, also does not, uh, does not work out alone with weights on the back of his neck.
01:01:30.980
What's, what's your top story of, uh, of the year?
01:01:33.840
The, uh, the, uh, the appearance of empirical evidence that voting does not matter.
01:01:42.000
The very best we had, we had, uh, every indication, but it's nice to have the goods.
01:01:47.520
I, you know, whatever people say, yeah, obviously they're sure.
01:02:02.900
You don't need to worry about campaign strategies and stuff like that.
01:02:06.540
It's unless you live in Florida or Ohio, at least.
01:02:11.160
Uh, so by the way, so, you know, that, that kind of narrows things down for someone like
01:02:17.760
But I know in Florida, uh, you can't, uh, you can't really do hardly anything that sort
01:02:24.720
So this will be like, uh, you know, if I have any interest in politics, it would probably
01:02:29.360
like real politics that would be in state politics, because, uh, I think Florida is
01:02:34.340
pretty, pretty, pretty, uh, doing awesome now in that department.
01:02:38.100
Well, and that'll be a big question going forward, right?
01:02:40.640
Is like the, the states that are willing to protect their elections, there are so few
01:02:44.800
of them, but the ones that are willing to protect elections are the ones where change
01:02:50.260
Um, as we're in many, the, the won't even the, you know, we've, we've talked a lot about,
01:02:55.120
well, if you're going to participate in electoral politics, go local, right?
01:02:58.360
Go to your state, go to your, your school board, sheriff, that kind of thing.
01:03:02.760
Um, but you know, when you have, you know, Zucker bucks in the DNC, you know, getting involved
01:03:09.620
in the, you know, every County's election apparatus, that can be very difficult to even
01:03:16.700
So there is a big difference, uh, in which states are willing to actually step up and,
01:03:25.300
We, we could reach a compromise situation where, uh, all the other states took the California
01:03:30.440
And then we have like, you know, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama,
01:03:35.220
Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, we could sort of, uh, move to a different
01:03:42.900
I think West Virginia would be, would pick a different side this time around.
01:03:47.380
Uh, well, we need, we need, uh, Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia, Kentucky to, uh, be
01:03:53.720
It'll be, it'll be like the, uh, the DMZ, like in, uh, like in North Korea.
01:03:57.800
That's the, the 32nd parallel or 38th parallel.
01:04:11.420
Baltimore has a really nice heart, a really nice harbor.
01:04:14.160
Um, the rest of it, yeah, yeah, you don't want that, but okay.
01:04:21.120
The like outer, like city limits, Baltimore, you can have that.
01:04:30.440
Uh, we'll also take Annapolis because it's sort of coast guard and, uh, Navy are, are at.
01:04:39.240
Is, uh, did you invite a blue belly onto this podcast?
01:04:47.820
Uh, just despite the many strikes against him, he is, he is good people.
01:04:53.780
Uh, Santa needs to send them, send them some more coal and, uh, put them down again.
01:04:58.900
I thought we were dealing with a copperhead around here.
01:05:01.260
Um, by the way, someone, someone, the audience brought up the Disney story.
01:05:05.320
I think that is, uh, uh, that, that is big, which by the way, I don't know.
01:05:11.420
I heard a conspiracy theory on the street or on the street in real life.
01:05:16.420
Someone told me a conspiracy theory about the Disney thing.
01:05:18.740
And it was this, uh, so this is the first time this is hitting the internet.
01:05:26.240
Uh, so I was told that you, uh, do you guys know about the, um, uh, the new CEO of, of
01:05:43.780
I heard that this, that him leaving and going back was something that he masterminded arranged
01:05:49.880
He brought on someone to make all the painful cuts that he didn't want to do, uh, that he
01:05:55.640
would look bad on him and make all the employees hate him.
01:05:58.100
So, so he was like, well, I'm retiring from Disney.
01:06:00.760
They brought this other guy on who did all this horrible cut cutting and stuff that made all
01:06:08.940
That sounded just so wonderfully, uh, back of belly.
01:06:18.180
Oh, he's, um, like I know of him mostly as a sort of suit figure.
01:06:23.480
Um, like he's always been much more of a, um, like in mergers and acquisitions guy rather
01:06:30.460
than a, um, a micromanaging the talent kind of guy.
01:06:35.780
Um, well, yeah, but I mean, uh, you know, Disney likes to likes a king that's there for
01:06:41.840
And I, anyways, uh, the last guy, the guy that was in between Iger's things, uh, he did
01:06:47.960
a lot of brutal cutting, like to people that clean up the parks and stuff like that.
01:06:52.680
And lots of employees and cutting people's salary and stuff.
01:06:56.280
And so all the people that work at Disney and all the Disney lifers hated his guts.
01:07:05.080
Well, before, uh, we move on to the super chats, cause there are a decent amount stacking up,
01:07:09.500
uh, one, one more question before you go for you guys, and I'll give you a second to
01:07:13.640
Uh, what is your favorite piece of content that you saw this year from, from maybe this
01:07:22.300
So a video, an essay, a book, um, you know, a podcast, if you think about, you know, kind
01:07:30.680
of your favorite thing that, uh, that got produced this year and, and, uh, maybe, maybe talk a little
01:07:39.440
My personal favorite, I think is probably from, uh, conscious, uh, care cow, care cow.
01:07:45.200
Uh, he's, uh, Ernst, I'm trying to remember his last name right away.
01:07:48.700
Um, but he, he's, uh, wrote for, I am 1776, he wrote, uh, an essay called a time to, to
01:07:55.860
And, you know, he's from South Africa and in many ways they're, they're a decade or two
01:08:01.000
ahead of America if we're being really optimistic.
01:08:03.780
And so, um, you know, in, in the essay, he talks a lot about why people stay in difficult
01:08:12.000
Cause a lot of people will ask, uh, guys like us, especially, you know, they get to super
01:08:19.980
Uh, you know, with everything you've seen and, you know, all the, all the, you know,
01:08:24.060
pessimism about certain, you know, processes, you know, democratic process, that kind of thing.
01:08:28.460
Like what, where, where, where is the hope where, why do people stick around?
01:08:32.340
And I think he did a really good job in that essay of encapsulating, like why people don't
01:08:37.880
leave their homeland when things get difficult, why it's important to, you know, uh, invest
01:08:43.660
in your community and, and all kinds of stuff that I think it was really great.
01:08:50.900
Uh, let's go ahead and work in reverse here since I put bog on the spot each time, Mark,
01:08:55.480
uh, you, do you have a particular video or essay or anything that sticks in your mind
01:09:01.100
Well, I'll just, I'll go with Donald, uh, Donald J. Trump's opinion.
01:09:07.020
Uh, and he thinks that there is no Trumpism without Trump by Malcolm Chayune was a brilliant
01:09:20.280
No, the president of the United States said that was great.
01:09:22.980
Let me show this to all the people who follow me.
01:09:24.640
Did Malcolm put that on compact or where did he put that?
01:09:31.020
Do you have a particular, uh, article or essay or video or anything that you enjoyed this
01:09:36.840
Um, well, I think, uh, if I, if I may just pick two, because, uh, yes, I think you made,
01:09:43.400
you made, you made a, you made a good choice with a, with our South African friend, uh, Mr.
01:09:49.300
Um, you know, those guys have wonderful insight into, uh, you've used the phrase before back
01:09:54.400
canary in the coal mine and South Africa certainly is in terms of the whole dystopian sort of
01:09:59.080
rainbow nation thing where it, where it ends up and it's not pretty.
01:10:02.840
And, uh, and, uh, you know, much like my own country, you know, a, a good country was fashioned
01:10:08.660
out of a harsh climb, uh, you know, biosphere and the climate and difficult, uh, lands that
01:10:14.460
And, uh, to see all that hard work building a civilization be torn down from all directions,
01:10:21.180
both inside from within and from without is, is saddening.
01:10:24.020
And those, those guys have a right to be proud of what they've inherited from their ancestors,
01:10:28.880
even though it's been defiled by other, other people.
01:10:31.100
So that was a good choice, um, by you, Orin, because I think, um, sometimes we sort of overlook
01:10:36.120
South Africa and, uh, and, and what the, the privations they're suffering.
01:10:39.320
Um, but in my instance, I think, uh, my, my two would be, I think we can't underestimate
01:10:45.260
the importance of populist delusion and the fact that our, our friend AA has gone to the
01:10:50.640
great difficulty of sourcing a lot of these difficult to find authors and sort of collating
01:10:55.300
their viewpoints into a sort of a cogent structured book, a work, shall I say, that can then be sort
01:11:01.900
of distributed amongst people who might have inclinations or instincts towards, you know,
01:11:07.180
what we might call dissident politics or a dissident perspective on politics.
01:11:11.900
Um, I think the importance of populist delusion can't be, um, ignored, but in terms of a specific
01:11:17.680
thing online, I think, um, I think uncle Radlib's 124 years of the GAE is probably one of the
01:11:27.120
best pieces of online content we've seen this year.
01:11:29.480
Cause I think, I think, um, I suppose as an Australian, it's, it's, it's not so difficult
01:11:35.260
for me, I think with you American lads, and I say this to all due respect, cause I think
01:11:40.180
patriotism is an admirable trade, but it, it, it must be difficult to sort of, um, embody
01:11:46.740
a notion of patriotism and pride in what you have and what your forefathers have built whilst
01:11:51.580
sort of trying to, you know, mentally accept this role that the country has played in international
01:11:59.360
politics for, you know, almost a century and a half and the, and where things have led, um,
01:12:05.740
from then till now and how, um, the usurpation of American institutions has led us here.
01:12:12.780
It's led to Europeans finding themselves in their predicament, Russia finding itself in
01:12:17.240
its predicament, the American people and the Anglosphere allies, which would include me
01:12:23.940
And, um, and Radlib has a really wonderful way of sort of chronologically going through
01:12:28.820
these events in a very sort of factual and straightforward manner.
01:12:31.580
And so I think he's 124 years of the GAE is, um, probably one of the best works that has
01:12:38.120
No, excellent recommendations, uh, both academic agent.
01:12:41.860
I've of course read Populous Delusion and very familiar with the source material that
01:12:46.420
he's referencing and he does a great job with that.
01:12:48.900
And then, uh, Radlib does, you know, he was just on last week on this channel.
01:12:55.400
He's very good at breaking down a lot of that stuff.
01:12:59.360
Clossington, did you have anything in particular?
01:13:03.240
Um, what really stood out to me, I, I've actually been very horrible at keeping up with,
01:13:09.140
uh, sub stacks and, uh, the polemics, uh, this year, but two streams actually stood out
01:13:15.540
to me, uh, both from, uh, our friend, uh, Ryan term seeds channel, uh, is turnips digest on,
01:13:22.740
uh, the Dixie crats from 1948 to 1968 and, uh, the Dixie crats and the party switch, uh, turnip
01:13:33.920
and, uh, close friend of mine, uh, Christopher Sandbatch went through the formation of the
01:13:39.980
current, uh, Democrat party as we know it and the actual inner workings and inner party struggles,
01:13:54.160
I thought it was just a very informative, um, series of streams.
01:13:58.360
Yeah, no, uh, Ryan's a young guy, um, but he does a really great, he's a good, uh, student
01:14:05.760
history and does a great job of putting things together.
01:14:08.580
Um, so it must be said, is a man who punches way above his weight.
01:14:22.580
So, uh, I don't, I don't listen to as much stuff that is super adjacent to us because
01:14:29.320
I'm the kind of person that like, um, I would just start, uh, like, uh, I, if I listened
01:14:36.880
to, uh, someone's material, I'm going to, I'm going to start talking about the same things
01:14:42.760
It's artificially limited some, but however, I do have some.
01:14:46.180
So first off, there's, uh, the people like, uh, great articles and some to cause big
01:14:51.640
reactions of, uh, Merrick mentioned Malcolm Shea and Trumpism without Trump, uh, Gord
01:14:56.460
McGill, big, big friend of us go in the wage cap for the most essential worker, probably
01:15:02.080
the most, uh, the most inflammatory article all year by our friend Charles Stallworth,
01:15:08.440
It was the tantrum at Twitter reveals how privileged the liberal laptop class is.
01:15:14.280
There were, there were just like weeks of people screaming about this article, gnashing
01:15:20.600
I've, I've watched distributors, his streams, uh, his, his streams all year.
01:15:26.020
Uh, I don't, I don't know if he's done any like a video essays or something, but it doesn't
01:15:30.580
have to, I like watching his, I'm just doing the question answer.
01:15:33.960
But, uh, my favorite, my, uh, favorite one we did, which I have to say, because it's not
01:15:40.860
It's not because of me, but it's, we, this year we interviewed Michael Anton and that
01:15:46.220
was, uh, we've interviewed a lot of smart people.
01:15:49.020
The only person that's like, I don't know, man, that guy is really slick.
01:15:56.400
Uh, and the only, and I would have to add or on your, your stream with Charles Haywood.
01:16:05.580
I think I watched it once and listened to it once.
01:16:10.640
He's, he's, uh, been on my radar a whole lot more here recently.
01:16:14.600
He's actually going to be coming on tomorrow, uh, for a stream.
01:16:17.960
So if anyone wants to, to check out more Charles Haywood, he'll be, uh, he'll be back
01:16:24.320
So make sure to, to watch that one at seven, same time, uh, tomorrow.
01:16:29.440
So let's start getting to our super chats here so that we have a chance of getting out
01:16:40.480
A wonderful, it's a wonderful life is based off of she's married to an abusive drunk.
01:16:46.740
So in, in the actual novel that the movie is based off of, she's not, uh, she's not alone.
01:16:53.680
She's, she's remarried, but to a much worse person or to wouldn't be remarried.
01:17:01.780
Do you have, I'm, I haven't ever read the, uh, it's a wonderful life book.
01:17:10.760
I mean, I assume I guess as much, but what ethnicity was it?
01:17:21.700
The, the, the perfidious Ellis Island is, uh, enough shade has been thrown in the direction
01:17:37.480
Not Christmas related, but rewatching, uh, Jurassic Park one and the lost world over
01:17:41.740
the weekend with my girlfriend and saw King Kong 33, uh, for the first time.
01:17:48.420
No, Jurassic Park is, uh, obviously an all time classic really enjoyed.
01:17:59.480
Uh, what about you guys going back to, uh, Jurassic Park and fun?
01:18:03.200
That, that was one of the first like big movies of my childhood, you know, like, like everybody
01:18:08.340
I read the book when I was, uh, and I loved the movie so much.
01:18:13.720
I had a Jurassic Park alarm clock that I kept until like, I was, uh, 19 years old.
01:18:24.120
I mean, the, the sequels, none of them were really any good, but the original, especially
01:18:30.920
if you look at the way they made it, the thing that like the technical prowess of something
01:18:35.540
that was made in like what 92 that looked that good.
01:18:38.900
It is weird that the CGI holds up better from that movie than movies from like the early
01:18:44.360
It's because they were smart about like, they, you know, they, they got the dinosaurs in
01:18:47.920
the rain and the dark and it's mysterious and you're not just seeing a computer video
01:18:55.820
Uh, the only controversial opinion I have about that, which by the way, I don't know if
01:19:01.160
I think that was, uh, they use Jurassic Park to first sell, uh, sound surround systems and
01:19:11.660
So, uh, when it stomps and the glass shakes or whatever, but I remember there was a, the
01:19:16.500
opinion that, that every, uh, normie, uh, had was that, uh, the Sega Genesis game was better
01:19:23.100
than the super Nintendo game, which I mean, to me, that was ridiculous.
01:19:35.500
I imagine the NES was dead by then pretty much.
01:19:39.360
Well, that's the thing of the NES survived well into the SNES's life cycle because it
01:19:45.440
I, they took, I had, I had the, uh, the, the top loader one, uh, from later because I too
01:19:51.420
was one of the, the poor people still rocking the NES well into the deep into the nineties,
01:19:57.900
My, my parents are like, you don't need another video game system.
01:20:02.020
And so like, I went directly from the NES to the Sega Saturn, uh, cause I had a excellent,
01:20:08.480
uh, that was, I bought my, I bought my Saturn for like 50 bucks towards the end of its life
01:20:17.160
cycle because there's no games came out for it.
01:20:19.760
Uh, the first thing, the first video game console I purchased with my own money that
01:20:25.140
I earned was the Nintendo 64 and I didn't buy another console for like 20 years.
01:20:31.900
I'm sorry if people, I know you might have nice, nice feelings about N64, but, uh, every
01:20:40.860
Unless you get the expansion pack for the 64 meg ram expansion pack for the N64.
01:20:47.340
You have to have that to run like, uh, like perfect dark and stuff.
01:20:50.660
The only reason, yeah, I never owned the, uh, 64, but all of my friends would play golden
01:20:56.180
So I was very familiar with, with its controller.
01:20:58.800
By the way, the best, the best, like, uh, the concept from Jurassic park that I think about
01:21:05.120
Uh, you know, whenever I look at, look at any situation, I'm like, who is the Dennis Nedry?
01:21:09.860
Like who is the most situations, governments, worlds, like, you know, then maybe you can tie
01:21:17.200
So there's one guy that, uh, could get pissed off and shut off the fence in the rain and,
01:21:24.980
I'm definitely working that theory into, into the book.
01:21:27.860
Now I'm, I'm, I'm on, I'm on the fifth chapter.
01:21:30.180
So that's, I'm definitely working the Nedry, uh, theory into remember the, the old, like,
01:21:36.640
They'd be like, or maybe, no, this maybe came from a bomb or something like find the doers,
01:21:41.760
Like, no, find the Dennis Nedry, find him, get him to shut the fence up.
01:21:58.400
No, it's like, um, it was my, uh, my fiance actually got somewhat uncomfortable by how much,
01:22:11.860
Um, like there are these just montages of dinosaurs hanging out with the whales and like this, there's
01:22:20.060
this convoluted clone, uh, subplot and it's, it's, it's, it's absolutely insane.
01:22:32.600
I've, I've worked some like manual labor jobs with people that are like, you know, uh,
01:22:38.780
you know, not, uh, they don't, they're not, they don't have it all together.
01:22:42.780
And most of these people I've talked to these guys, you know, like 75, 88 IQ guys, they all
01:22:48.380
tell me they, they love dinosaurs eating people and they would just go watch and they would
01:22:53.460
go watch all the Jurassic Park movies because they just love to see dinosaurs eating people.
01:22:59.400
Well, it's a rampage, you know, the video game, uh, anyone back from like, there's a, there's
01:23:18.060
I was just talking about dinosaurs eating people.
01:23:20.820
Oh no, I'm just going to say, I want to cycle back before we sort of move on.
01:23:23.480
Um, Jurassic parks are very much a, um, you know, stand out of how, you know, before CGI
01:23:31.860
totally took over movies and movie making, and they sort of create these effects that
01:23:36.040
were obviously artificial, but plausible and had a realistic touch to them.
01:23:41.180
And what's interesting is that Jurassic park was released only a few years before the first
01:23:47.220
And you watch like Anaconda one and it's the CGI is absolutely garbage.
01:23:53.040
Um, and it's amazing how some directors nailed that transition period between sort of like
01:24:00.280
And you watch that, like the first Anaconda movie and it is just, you can't help but laugh
01:24:06.140
But then you watch the original Jurassic park and it's actually very, very well done in that
01:24:11.900
I mean, you need, you need ILM geniuses to do with it in Jurassic park.
01:24:17.700
You need like, ah, let's have tasteful effects.
01:24:21.620
We're going to have a mix of computer graphics.
01:24:23.740
Whereas if you're making Anaconda, you just say, yeah, get a computer guy to make a big
01:24:27.480
snake and we'll, we'll have the waterfall going backwards.
01:24:32.420
We're just, we're cashing in, you know, you get what you get, what you pay for.
01:24:35.880
I thought you were going to cite the, uh, the nineties, uh, Godzilla movie.
01:24:42.360
I actually forgot about that closing to until you do.
01:24:45.940
We know, we know somebody that, that, that has done stuff like special effects and stuff.
01:24:53.220
And, uh, I, that guy would be highly expensive.
01:24:56.260
The guy's a genius and you know, he, you, the kind of skills you need to be able to do.
01:25:03.680
Anyway, uh, you just CGI with like, uh, you know, basements full of, uh, starving Filipino
01:25:09.320
So, uh, yeah, by the way, someone in the audience, uh, uh, I wonder if they have this, I wonder
01:25:18.960
I don't know if you guys heard this, but like, uh, in Europe, they had this computer that
01:25:23.380
was like 10 years ahead of American technology the whole time we were playing like NESs and
01:25:32.000
I think on there that we never got like cancel, Castlevania.
01:25:37.020
Uh, I, I know, I know that it, it, it did make its way here, but in, in very small numbers,
01:25:42.360
like if you've actually found one that said like a secondhand sort of store, you literally
01:25:49.100
Like we only got literally a smattering of them and not very many of them may, you know,
01:25:54.280
So only the, we're only the very wealthy kids, I suppose, had their parents, you know,
01:26:01.960
They weren't salty commercially to my knowledge.
01:26:05.100
So Dylan 98 here asks, uh, what are your thoughts on razor fist and his phrase body, uh,
01:26:12.920
It's good to be realistic, but also take the white pill now.
01:26:16.080
And again, uh, yeah, I mean, I really like razor fists.
01:26:23.900
He obviously puts a lot of effort into writing and they're always really entertaining.
01:26:28.400
I find some of his political analysis to be kind of very mainstream conservative.
01:26:41.160
Um, I think he's right that you shouldn't be negative all the time.
01:26:44.380
I think it is important to keep things in context and still be able to have hope.
01:26:51.560
He has no reason to be, to be dour all the time.
01:26:54.440
Uh, but I do think there is a certain level of, I think he's still heavily invested in
01:27:02.380
Um, and so I think when he says no black pills, he means stop, stop pretending that you can't
01:27:07.560
just like, you know, win another election and kind of turn the whole thing around, which
01:27:16.320
Um, the, you know, there is, uh, I wouldn't, I would certainly not agree with that.
01:27:21.380
Although like, uh, the thing is you need to get past like some serious, uh, a black pill
01:27:27.220
Uh, you know, a lot of people, when you first start sort of realizing how screwed we are,
01:27:33.360
And, but like, if you don't go, if you don't go through that and sort of think about like
01:27:36.960
the bad situation we are, then you're going to be in just massive denial and you're going
01:27:42.940
Like, uh, you know, every, every, uh, every time you get reminded and let me tell you,
01:27:48.300
the lips will remind you like you, uh, you need to know the situation you're in.
01:27:51.920
We're not in the worst situation that there's ever, there's, that there's ever been.
01:27:55.660
And you, uh, but, uh, you, you, you can't be thinking like, oh, we're just going to turn
01:28:00.940
this ship around tomorrow because we're not, uh, you, you gotta, you gotta have your, the
01:28:07.080
And, but also, you know, the fate of like the Republican party or, uh, dissident right-wing
01:28:13.080
politics is not one-to-one tied to your own fate.
01:28:18.800
Like you're, you can have a good, I think, uh, Mike Sivarovich actually put it really well
01:28:23.240
on Twitter, uh, like, uh, here recently is like, look, you can, you can have a great
01:28:29.480
There are plenty of super happy people who live great lives in countries that, you know,
01:28:37.620
It's not where you want to be, but like, you know, it's not like you can't live good lives
01:28:42.260
and meaningful lives and, and that have families and all that stuff.
01:28:46.040
In, in countries like that, but you just, like you said, it's not, not to blow out the
01:28:50.600
red pill metaphor here, but there's a reason that like the, the guy, was it, uh, the character
01:28:55.880
wants to go back and get put in the matrix, you know, just so he can taste, you know, fake
01:29:01.400
Like, you know, if you want to keep believing that at some point the GOP is going to get
01:29:06.800
And if we just had better quality candidates next, you know, next time around, if, if, uh,
01:29:12.120
if MAGA people would just, you know, get out of the way so we can go back to
01:29:15.340
tax cuts and Mitt Romney, um, then, you know, I, I think that's, that's far more depressing
01:29:21.240
than being like, okay, here's the actual situation you're in and I'm not going to emotionally
01:29:25.320
invest in whether or not the GOP can, can pull it out again next year.
01:29:30.700
So I'm going to look for things that actually improve my life and the people, the life,
01:29:35.100
I don't know who, like who RazorFist is, so I'm not critiquing whatever you said, but
01:29:40.460
like in this, in this point in general, like if you've ever, if you ever talked to somebody
01:29:44.220
who's like a progressive or, uh, like a liberal, but not like, you know, not super political
01:29:49.680
to the point where they have all the canned responses and like, can you really dig down
01:29:54.660
and you talk about these things that you mentioned, like, you know, uh, posterity, like
01:29:59.420
you'll get this, you'll get this weird death drive answer.
01:30:02.120
Or once you dig to the bottom of like, yeah, well everybody, you know, we're all going
01:30:04.940
to die and we're going to be replaced by Guatemalans and, you know, stuff like that.
01:30:10.200
You can't, like, you can't reason, like pull, you can't like have a old, old timey political
01:30:16.740
debates with people who like, who at the base of it feel that way.
01:30:20.740
Like that they have this insane death drive that wants to like, just like, just not only
01:30:25.420
destroy themselves, which would be bad enough, but like destroy you too.
01:30:33.960
That's just, you're, you're acknowledging reality.
01:30:36.640
Like if, if you're, you know, if you're, if you've fallen off the jet ski in the, in
01:30:40.720
the alligator infested water, it's not a black pill to be like, you know, wow, I'm in danger.
01:30:45.960
I need to do something about this because otherwise you're just going to get eaten.
01:30:54.040
Uh, thank you very much for your donations here.
01:30:58.220
Uh, yeah, a hundred percent there, there's local diners around me all over the place.
01:31:04.300
Um, you know, less than there was sadly, as with all mom and pop things, especially after,
01:31:12.680
Uh, you know, there's many of those things had to shut down, uh, in that time, but, uh,
01:31:21.460
Someone says brought up ultimate seven in the audience.
01:31:28.900
Uh, well, first off you can, uh, watch the flavor town guy, but I've heard the diner question.
01:31:34.560
Uh, Yankees will be like, if you bring up diners, you're like, you know, you're, you're redneck
01:31:40.900
I've heard that diners are a, uh, uh, up North thing.
01:31:44.540
They, they have special requirements for the diner, but I don't know.
01:31:47.560
Uh, I was not aware that there was some kind of a Yankee claim on the diners.
01:31:56.940
I have no clue what the, uh, the claim on, uh, diners is.
01:32:01.600
Like, I, I think like outside of the immediate, like corridor from, let's just say,
01:32:09.000
like, um, like Washington DC to Boston, like there's a certain corridor where everything
01:32:15.520
is just, uh, like strips and chains, but outside of that, yeah, you'll get healthy diners.
01:32:27.600
Um, what aren't doing fine are, um, are, um, are, uh, just blue collar bars.
01:32:45.180
Thanks to, to, to like door dash, but dive bars are dying out, man.
01:32:50.180
And being replaced with foofy, uh, like craft places.
01:33:00.400
I think a big part of this is also like the, uh, the death of the VFW, you know, like the,
01:33:06.440
you used to always, uh, in every town, you always had the, uh, the dive, you know, VFW,
01:33:12.100
because you always had enough guys who were coming back from nom or something to keep it
01:33:16.760
And, uh, now that you don't have that large generation of veterans going forward, you're,
01:33:21.060
you're losing that crucial link in the, uh, in kind of the dive bar, uh, chain.
01:33:26.040
I miss the, uh, the, the red tablecloth, uh, local small business, Italian restaurant.
01:33:35.540
And I think those, I mean, I've been around the South and you don't see them like you used
01:33:44.140
I feel like, uh, we, I guess you're right that it's the, we get more, I get more upscale
01:33:48.960
Italian now people trying to, trying to be fancy about it.
01:33:52.580
You don't get as many working class Italian places.
01:33:55.060
Like, I, I don't know where you're at, but, uh, we still have our, our low scale Italian
01:34:04.020
Well, we gotta have something going for you guys.
01:34:07.180
Like we have, uh, we have, um, like we have, um, uh, cheesecake factory.
01:34:22.320
Uh, we had Ned Kelly's and Aussie themed, uh, steakhouse here in the Midwest.
01:34:27.780
It was actually quite good, better than the clientele.
01:34:31.280
I'm, I'm not, I'm don't have to spend a lot of time in the Midwest.
01:34:44.620
Have any of you guys gone to, uh, to Texas Roadhouse?
01:34:57.900
Like, uh, in the, the, uh, Outback Steakhouse discussion, uh, the comments was talking about
01:35:05.020
how great, uh, Texas Roadhouse is by comparison.
01:35:17.640
We've got, uh, Iron Duke here again, uh, for $5 Australian.
01:35:21.980
Uh, a woman have the same parts, but all those parts are equal.
01:35:46.440
What else do you find that, um, what I just want to say, or Iron Duke 99 wanted me to comment
01:35:51.600
about, um, we, we'll talk about crocodiles before and how, uh, Australian crocodiles are
01:35:57.140
rather more intimidating than the Florida alligator.
01:36:00.040
I haven't actually seen a Florida alligator, so I'm not too sure, but yes, Australian saltwater
01:36:05.880
So the trick with alligators is that they don't open their mouth the way that crocodiles
01:36:11.440
They don't have the, the muscles to open as with the same strength.
01:36:15.580
So that's why like they can wrestle alligators because you can just duct tape their mouths
01:36:21.900
And then they're more or less harmless the whole time that, that, that happens.
01:36:27.120
Um, but, uh, but with their, you know, so I, like I had a friend who worked in an orange
01:36:32.380
grove and he thought it would be really great to like grab an alligator he found on the side
01:36:36.820
of the road and just like threw a belt around its mouth and brought it to like a gathering
01:36:41.080
Cause like you, you can do that, but he's going down the interstate to get to the gathering
01:36:45.240
and like all of a sudden the, the, the, uh, passenger side seat of his Jeep starts slamming
01:36:51.700
Apparently the gator had gotten the belt off its mouth and, uh, had, had, uh, grabbed the
01:36:56.000
lever of the seat and was thrashing all around in the car.
01:37:16.920
You guys really helped me regain my standard after losing it in 2020.
01:37:23.740
I'm, I'm really glad that, uh, you know, we try to, try to, uh, have a community here,
01:37:31.260
I've got a lot of you guys who have been here for a long time.
01:37:33.540
And I know many people have, you know, are avid, uh, listeners to people like the good
01:37:37.560
old boys or, uh, or, uh, apostolic majesty's, uh, streams that Closington or, uh, that, uh,
01:37:44.920
So I'm really glad that you guys come out and are part of the community.
01:37:55.720
It appears to me that many on the right signal against violinism on the left with a brutish
01:38:07.280
I mean, I think that there's a very specific thing with the Leninism of the left, right?
01:38:12.980
Which is that they specifically artificially are elevating people who are entirely dependent
01:38:22.460
And without them, that would have no other status.
01:38:26.960
So there are people who are specifically willing to kind of sell themselves for the system, right?
01:38:33.240
To, to acquire power or status they otherwise wouldn't have.
01:38:35.720
That's not the same as just like being weak or, or, or otherwise unable to attain like that,
01:38:45.220
I will specifically buy into a corrupt or gross system in order to obtain something that I otherwise
01:38:50.760
wouldn't be, I will become a commissar so that I can climb a ladder.
01:38:57.280
I don't think that's the same thing as, uh, you know, just, just being an average person
01:39:03.760
Like the, uh, the sort of point of violinism and the violinist coalition is that it is antinomian
01:39:10.440
by nature, uh, or it is against the normative cultural values of the moral or, or the silent
01:39:21.640
Uh, so it's a coalition of the dispossessed, uh, you know, minorities, ethnic or sexual or
01:39:32.600
disabled, uh, what, what have you, um, as well as those who would not, as, as the violinist
01:39:41.560
hypothesis goes, uh, those who would not have, uh, survived in pre-industrial society grow up
01:39:48.600
to be rather malfunctioning and, uh, dependent on state apparatuses and this certain political
01:39:56.980
machines to actually, to actually, uh, be kept afloat.
01:40:02.260
So you end up with commissars who command over these antinomian elements.
01:40:07.640
Um, I think that's, that's, it's not just, you know, your proletarian wasp grug, right?
01:40:16.020
It's, it's a little, it's a little bit more specific to the antinomian and, uh, outsiders.
01:40:22.660
Blackjack in the audience brings up the civil rights patriot scheme.
01:40:25.360
I don't know anything about violinism, but that stuff that Oram was talking about now
01:40:29.440
that, now that's, that's, that's more right up my alley.
01:40:32.000
So, uh, if you, uh, the way they get their money is basically say, uh, telling this, like,
01:40:37.460
uh, uh, I'll say telling, but obviously it doesn't work like this, but telling legislature,
01:40:42.780
Hey, you need to give us some tax money so we can, uh, fix things.
01:40:46.220
And well, uh, this is sort of like the military, like, Hey, we need to fight a global war on terror.
01:40:51.100
So, uh, you're gonna need to tax people a lot and give us the money and then we'll
01:40:55.120
go do this, which they're just getting, giving the money to them themselves.
01:40:58.640
This is like, uh, you know, in the old days, uh, if you had someone in your family was,
01:41:03.660
uh, like legit, like legit retarded or something like that, you know, people would, would, uh,
01:41:09.440
you know, your brother will watch him this weekend and then they'll stay at grandma's
01:41:14.360
And, uh, well, that's just like, you're, that's just free money on the table.
01:41:17.880
They want these professional jobs where this is, that's a, that's a, that's a money opportunity.
01:41:24.840
You think about how much, how many professionals, uh, a criminal employees, uh, you know, you
01:41:29.800
have the court reporter and the psychologist at the, at the prison and all this stuff like
01:41:35.220
And this is sort of the, the managerial system, like, you know, send us more immigrants, like
01:41:40.520
send us more immigrants and hopefully they're, they're screwed up because, uh, we can employ
01:41:45.360
more of ourself in the whole managerial elite thing.
01:41:49.200
Well, um, I think this comment in particular calls out.
01:41:54.260
This, that may be different of the civil rights patronage machine or civil rights era patronage.
01:42:00.840
And we, America has had political machines and patronage and vote banks since the founding,
01:42:08.840
but this one in particular is, is a certain grift, uh, a sort of, uh, grievance politics
01:42:18.460
that is located within HR departments and corporate culture and, uh, and a, and a, and a, a whole
01:42:25.840
like battery of lawfare, like that one in particular.
01:42:31.500
And it may be different than biolunics in particular, but yeah.
01:42:33.880
Well, the, the, the, the super chat was asking, uh, not about this, but about, you know, the,
01:42:39.740
the, the, the right, some of the right that crudely punches down the weak, I believe was
01:42:45.160
the way he framed it, uh, that like, you know, the, the Conan, Conan style reaction to, to weakness.
01:42:51.860
And my response to that is if you create a pagan society, you're going to get pagan outcomes.
01:42:57.180
You're going to get, you're going to get a pagan, right.
01:43:00.060
And that's what this is like a society that's like people will throw around the phrase post
01:43:09.080
Like, like a lot of the dissident people, uh, who are either elites or want, or want to
01:43:15.120
be elites have adopted the, you know, the Imperial pagan religion.
01:43:20.120
And they're going to have pagan attitudes towards people who can't defend themselves because
01:43:29.880
It's worth, it's worth probably saying, um, with that super chat, I'm not saying that the
01:43:35.300
person's done this on purpose, but that is almost accepting a left-wing trope about right-wing
01:43:41.360
Um, in so far that, you know, all that weaker, less fortunate people exist to do is to be sort
01:43:50.180
I mean, let's not forget that it is, um, a traditional notion, one might argue a chivalric
01:43:56.640
notion that those who are of a, of a, of a lower strata or a lower, um, you know, socioeconomic
01:44:04.380
strat, the status are actually, uh, still have their place sort of in a symbiotic, um, social
01:44:12.300
And that, you know, it is the, the barons and the knights of the realm who sort of fight
01:44:17.480
to protect, you know, the lesser people who, who cannot.
01:44:20.660
And that, you know, in a, in a, in a more traditionally oriented society that, you know,
01:44:25.800
arms giving is used to assist those who are less fortunate that, um, that the, the church
01:44:32.760
and means of charity, uh, exist as a supplementation to those who are, who are on that scale.
01:44:39.140
I think for us, it's a case of, for those of us on the right, so that we accept that these
01:44:42.980
people exist that we accept that a basic level of generosity or a kind of, um, you know, this
01:44:49.260
Christian notion of giving wholeheartedly or giving it for the genuine desire to help
01:44:55.620
people to a point is a fundamental part of how we see the world.
01:45:01.380
Um, one might say ethically or, or, or as a matter of principle, whereas the left seek
01:45:08.220
to empower the so-called spiteful mutants to act as a, like an ideological trannessary
01:45:15.240
class, as I've said before on this channel, um, uh, the, these sort of ideological shock
01:45:20.120
troops, they enable the, the people with an ax to grind to, to, um, you know, they need
01:45:26.240
the, the, uh, the spiteful mutants to act as the meat grinder against the kulaks and against
01:45:33.580
the, the Cossacks and the military aristocracy or the, or the, uh, the old order, which were
01:45:39.260
empowered, they become disempowered by people who have the ax to grind.
01:45:43.800
And so, in fact, it is the, it is doubtlessly the left who thinks less of these people than
01:45:49.240
And I think it plays into that left-wing trope that we think lesser than they do.
01:45:54.880
And, um, and, and the, the, the, the, the structure and function of Western societies, certainly
01:46:01.600
in the, um, uh, you know, in the, in the feudal and post feudal period don't reflect that at
01:46:10.020
I'd like to say real quick, uh, this is not really a conversation we can have under the
01:46:15.540
civil rights regime because sort of, uh, the idea that being weak or whatever, it gives
01:46:20.020
you some sort of claim or whatever, but the idea that, that the left are the ones who
01:46:24.840
uh, who helped the weak and the right is, and well, that's, that's just, that's bull.
01:46:29.000
But by the way, you know, the whole, like, uh, if you are one, what to be a strong man,
01:46:33.460
you know, one of the things that comes from that thing is, you know, strength and responsibility
01:46:40.280
But in terms of like the left worships, you know, the left worships, uh, you know, six
01:46:45.400
foot five celebrities, uh, you know, the, the, the, the Taylor Swifts and stuff, they,
01:46:49.460
they engage in massive bullying and stuff like that.
01:46:53.500
I, I, I, however, you know, we have this, this whole civil rights thing, but, uh, I, uh,
01:46:59.280
I don't know, maybe there's, uh, I, but this is not really a conversation we can have under
01:47:03.740
the civil rights regime because we can't put strength with responsibility because that's
01:47:08.600
how you get, uh, the, the, the happy situation.
01:47:12.460
Yeah, no, there's, uh, understanding that the, the duty and power go, go hand in hand is,
01:47:21.500
Um, and that, uh, the, those that are provided for always have a certain duty, those difficult
01:47:29.940
Um, all right, guys, well, we've made our way through all of the super chats.
01:47:35.000
Uh, so let's go ahead and do a little sign off here, uh, let people know where they can
01:47:41.460
If you've got anything, uh, exciting coming up or anything that you want to let people
01:47:45.580
know about, uh, bog beef and Mark, where can they find your work in any, any big interviews
01:47:54.000
Uh, we have four episodes that are, uh, sitting in my folder that I need to push out right away.
01:48:01.020
Um, but, uh, yeah, we got a lot of stuff to get out and we're at patrion.com slash, uh,
01:48:08.100
uh, good G O D G O O D O L you know, whatever he'll post good old boys with a Z and yeah,
01:48:15.940
we got, uh, we got one with Malcolm and, and, and, and another person that's been on our podcast.
01:48:22.780
We kind of had, it's almost like a debate format, isn't it?
01:48:33.840
So, you know, never know when the, the big man himself might stop by.
01:48:39.700
He'll, he'll check to see if you bought his trading cards though.
01:48:42.020
So you better, better make sure you have those handy.
01:48:48.300
Are you doing things with the, the, uh, old blur club?
01:48:51.280
Oh, um, so I'm my, my channel itself is semi-retired, but I'm a
01:48:59.880
We're sort of a, uh, multimedia, a multimedia collective of online American content creators.
01:49:08.940
Um, and you can look forward to a future sub stack posts and live streams for me on that front.
01:49:15.260
Um, I also have a very, uh, very thriving, uh, telegram following at Punished Clossington.
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And Furious, anything that you want to let people know about?
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I think you Australia, your internet there for a second.
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While he's doing that, by the way, so, Oh, curious.
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I was just trying to cover while you were going.
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Um, yeah, I believe Mr. Semigog is going to host like an Australian stream at the start
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So, um, I believe 99 Iron Duke will also be on it, which will be the first time that we're
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It's a, it almost feels like it's been too long, but that will be good.
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I'm pretty sure by Mr. Chris guard and by Lady of Charlotte.
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Um, I do believe that once, uh, the current call of.
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Laws done, we will return to, uh, the, uh, the topic of, uh, of nutrition and, uh, and
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like the food lies with AA at some point in the new year as well.
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And of course, uh, I think, um, I think Mr. Majesty is taking a bit of time off, uh, cause
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Um, but in the new year, of course, we will be, uh, myself and Columba and apostolic majesty
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will be back, uh, chipping away at our many, many history topics that we do canvas and
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So if any of you who are kind enough, please go subscribe to apostolic majesty, watch all
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He's a very, very, um, erudite and intelligent, uh, historian.
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And, um, and of course other people in our sphere, you know, we, I think this has been
01:51:21.240
If I may say, or, and, you know, whether it's yourself or, you know, whether it's, uh, you
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know, Mr. Radlib or, or Charlie or boss like majesty, you know, old boys club, you know, the
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1776, uh, group, um, it's, it's been great watching, uh, prude and even geo with a digital
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So I think, um, I think 2022 has been a great year for people in our sphere.
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By the way, or I'm getting picked up by a major, you know, uh, Oh yes, indeed.
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When I played, I used to play street fighter competitively.
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And like when someone locally would do well at a major, you know, they, they would learn,
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Like if you were a local Ken player and you know, they beat, they beat a Ken player in
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the top eight or whatever, they learned how to play Ken by playing you as the local.
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So the, the local boy doing good makes everybody feel good.
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You're representative of, uh, I think a lot of us feel like you represent us.
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It's very surprising turn, but, uh, but you know, very much appreciated and, uh, you know,
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nice to be able to do this full time and everything.
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I'm hoping a lot, a lot more to come here with the new year and everything as everything
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I think people will really enjoy it, but, uh, I appreciate all you guys coming on.
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Make sure you're checking out everybody's stuff guys and really appreciate, uh, the audience
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Always nice to do these kind of into your streams, Christmas dreams, just nights to, to
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hang out, enjoy the year, you know, friends of the channel come on, just, just get to
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have some fun, not, not always talk about such serious topics.
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You know, we get into some deep stuff here, so it's nice to, to just, uh, kick back, talk
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about some Christmas, uh, uh, Christmas movies in the Waffle House, you know, so, uh, appreciate
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Um, if this is your first time here, of course, uh, it would be weird for you to just be here
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for the Christmas special, but you know, go ahead and subscribe.
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And if you guys haven't been listening on, uh, iTunes or Spotify or any of the major, uh,
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podcast platforms, you can get the audio only versions, the podcast versions of the show
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And if you do subscribe, if you could just go ahead and give a, a rating and a review
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But, uh, all that said guys really appreciate you coming by and as always, we'll talk to