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00:00:30.400 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre.

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00:01:00.000 All right, guys, I have been thinking about this for a while, and it's a difficult topic, but it's one that I think is essential.

00:01:08.260 I haven't talked a lot about abortion, but I think it's increasingly important to grasp what's going on in America when it comes to this issue.

00:01:18.540 You see, the pro-life movement, I think, is a very important one.

00:01:24.240 I am very pro-life.

00:01:25.620 I think that abortion is the murder of a child in no uncertain terms.

00:01:30.600 And the fact that we allow it in the United States is horrific.

00:01:34.180 And it's something that I think needs to end.

00:01:37.620 I'm very passionate about those facts, and I feel it pretty deeply and genuinely.

00:01:42.320 But there has been a, I think, overzealous understanding of how to use politics correctly

00:01:52.800 in recent years when it comes to the pro-life movement.

00:01:56.380 So Donald Trump is obviously not a conservative Christian.

00:02:01.880 He's not exactly a guy who is very careful with his own sexual behavior or expects others to be.

00:02:09.460 he's clearly not someone who probably cares at all about abortion though he has said that he's pro-life

00:02:14.420 but i've got the feeling he probably just cares about that because he knows it's going to play

00:02:19.000 well with his voters either way that doesn't matter all that much to me what matters is what

00:02:23.480 gets done and that's really the point however you feel about donald trump the man or his religious

00:02:28.560 convictions or whether you think he's sincere in his opposition to abortion these things are really

00:02:33.640 immaterial it's does he move the ball down the field does he save the lives of unborn children

00:02:40.260 that's really what matters and so Donald Trump has well you know while he's been out there and

00:02:46.300 saying things like he was pro-life he has not pushed the issue from the stage very often he

00:02:52.420 has not had these thunderous rhetorical denouncements of abortion these kind of things

00:02:56.800 and he's been very careful about what he promises and this has rubbed some pro-life people the

00:03:03.480 wrong way. So for instance, Roe v. Wade was overturned under Trump. Now, Trump doesn't get

00:03:08.820 all of the credit for that. That was a long and arduous journey. Actually, one of the rare times

00:03:14.560 that a conservative political movement really understood that the power didn't fully rest with

00:03:20.260 the president or even with the legislature, but that you needed a movement from the ground up

00:03:25.860 to build a cadre of justices to overturn this at the Supreme Court level. Something that was not

00:03:33.320 some one election away or some some flashy bill but actually just being in the trenches day in

00:03:39.520 and day out raising up these people who are going to eventually overturn this working as hard as you

00:03:45.360 can at every level to get them uh you know uh to to be put on the bench and it happened under

00:03:52.420 Donald Trump so he tends to get credit for it but obviously he was also part of it like he got he

00:03:56.800 nominated you know some of the justices involved uh so I think it's fair to attribute that win

00:04:03.000 at least at some percentage to him. I don't think he gets all the credit, but I think he gets a

00:04:07.640 decent amount of credit. And the fact that Roe v. Wade was overturned at all is something of a

00:04:11.960 miracle. I literally never thought it would happen. I wanted it to happen, but I never actually

00:04:18.020 believed that this would be a reality in my lifetime. Roe v. Wade seemed basically enshrined,

00:04:24.980 almost like it was a piece of the Constitution. And the political will of conservatives to take

00:04:31.400 on something like that that radically core to kind of what America's character has become sadly

00:04:37.900 tragically horrifically is very low and so I really never expected it to happen so when it

00:04:44.700 happened I was blown away I couldn't believe it and I think for a lot of pro-lifers the idea was

00:04:52.620 that once we overturned Roe versus Wade once we gave abortion back to the states which is where

00:04:58.040 it should have always been in the first place there would be this massive cascade effect now

00:05:02.480 initially there were several states that had like these laws in place that if roe versus wade ever

00:05:09.860 should get overturned then they like automatically trigger and start limiting abortions and other

00:05:15.900 things a few states had this not very many but a few and they were probably passed by uh republican

00:05:21.260 legislatures who thought they were basically performative oh yeah this will my my pro-life

00:05:25.680 voters will like this, but it's never going to really happen. So it's a safe thing to pass

00:05:30.300 because I'm never going to have to pay any political costs for it. And then it happened

00:05:34.380 and it triggered and those states had those restrictions. Again, not that many, but there

00:05:39.160 were some. However, what the pro-life movement found after the overturning of Roe versus Wade

00:05:47.280 is that there really wasn't a big hunger in most states for abortion bans actually the

00:06:00.000 political calculus had changed you see originally you needed roe versus wade at the supreme court

00:06:05.720 level because the public simply did not like abortion they did not approve of it they thought

00:06:11.720 it was evil and they were right and they didn't want it and they wouldn't vote for it and so you

00:06:16.380 had to do it at the supreme court level as with so many other progressive changes you couldn't put

00:06:21.180 it in the hands of democracy you had to force it upon the people democracy is sacred unless it says

00:06:26.020 something we don't like and then we can really just suspend it and go around it and push it down

00:06:30.560 from the federal level abortion was never the will of the people at that time however in the

00:06:36.760 intervening years our society had changed quite radically and i'll go in the in depth into that

00:06:43.600 here in a moment. And because of that radical change, abortion was now key to many of our

00:06:50.600 systems. A lot of people couldn't really imagine life without the option of abortion, even if they

00:06:55.760 might feel uncomfortable with it. And the pro-life movement suddenly understood that while they had

00:07:01.780 focused all of their energy on changing elite setups, rearranging Supreme Court justices to

00:07:09.120 make this happen. They had stopped really making the case to the average person. They weren't

00:07:13.760 really winning the public battle. And I don't think it's just because of messaging. I don't

00:07:17.840 think it's just because like pro-life people were bad at talking about politics, though that didn't

00:07:22.900 help. I think it was because, again, there are these fundamental underlying systemic changes to

00:07:27.640 the way that our society operated that made abortion feel somewhat critical to continue life

00:07:34.800 as they understood it and suddenly it dawned on conservatives that it was going to be a long

00:07:41.500 climb not only were they not getting abortion bans in many states there were blood-red states

00:07:47.800 that were passing pro-abortion guarantees or you know referendums amendments all these things

00:07:55.300 and this is very confusing the pro-life movement this is not what they expected this is not the

00:08:00.740 landslide after roe versus wade that they ultimately thought was coming and so they had a

00:08:06.920 new tactic okay we can't make it happen at the state level we'll make it happen at the federal

00:08:12.020 level and they started pressuring donald trump as he was running for president in 2024 to put some

00:08:17.500 kind of nationwide restriction on abortion now this is of course ironic because that was the

00:08:23.840 whole point of roe versus wade if we're talking about the abstract principle of states rights

00:08:27.720 the argument was that abortion should be decided state by state like pretty much most crimes are

00:08:33.880 and that the federal government had no business forcing everyone to legalize basically all the

00:08:39.680 way up to late term basically up to birth abortions and when you now turn around and say actually we

00:08:47.860 want a nationwide restriction a lot of people are going to have problems with that not only because

00:08:54.160 it's really unpopular, but because it also kind of backtracks on what you said was your principle.

00:08:59.700 Now, I'm somebody who believes that you need to choose your principles carefully, and you need

00:09:04.620 to think about why you have them. You shouldn't just automatically assume small government,

00:09:08.400 whatever, those are just my principles. But if you have argued along that line, and that has been

00:09:14.160 your guidepost at every turn, people are going to notice when you suddenly switch, and it's going to

00:09:19.880 feel a little opportunistic. And so the Trump administration, well, not the administration yet,

00:09:23.940 the trump campaign at the time resisted these calls and he caught a lot of flack uh for not

00:09:30.380 bending the knee on this not taking uh this like maximalist position position from the full abortion

00:09:38.120 abolitionists and being as aggressive as possible many of they said he's a failure we have to back

00:09:43.140 ron de santis someone else um there's a whole movement to try to get trump to take this on or

00:09:48.420 otherwise he wasn't really considered a good Christian vote. But Donald Trump knew this was

00:09:54.900 going to be very unpopular, and he just refused to run on it in the election. And seeing as he won

00:10:02.900 in one of the largest margins a Republican has won in quite a while, that was probably the right 0.97

00:10:09.600 move. That makes political sense. All of that worked out the way you would expect. Now, again,

00:10:16.060 And I think abortion is a critical issue.

00:10:17.980 I think it's one of the most horrific things about our society.

00:10:21.240 But I also understood that having Trump in office was more important because whatever

00:10:26.280 he didn't do on some nationwide ban, he was going to be far more pro-life than anyone

00:10:32.760 else.

00:10:33.160 And he'd already won the biggest victory you can pretty much imagine for pro-life people.

00:10:37.800 So sorry, like he did what he was supposed to do at the national level.

00:10:41.120 He made a deal and he kept it.

00:10:42.620 Now it's your job.

00:10:43.800 Yeah, I understand it's a tough slog.

00:10:45.120 And I 100% sympathize with what you're doing, but you can't demand that after Trump wins you this nationwide victory, that he immediately kamikaze, you know, the possibility of him getting another term so that he can basically flip on the principle you sold this overturn of Roe versus Wade on.

00:11:05.100 It just wasn't going to work.

00:11:07.200 And so there's this hostility between the pro-life movement and Donald Trump at some level, but they settled down because what else are you going to do, right?

00:11:14.340 Trump's still going to be the best pro-life candidate you can get in that

00:11:18.680 national election. Well, now we're in a similar scenario.

00:11:22.720 We have big midterms coming up. There's a lot going on.

00:11:26.600 I have some concerns about some of the things that might endanger midterms, but again, we'll talk about

00:11:30.660 that more in a little bit. But

00:11:33.140 the pro-life movement has been pushing for a

00:11:38.600 ban of the morning after pill, the abortion pill,

00:11:44.340 at a nationwide level. And again, this is a very bad time to try to pressure the Trump

00:11:52.200 administration into doing something like this. You got a critical election. Trump's got enough

00:11:56.280 problems with other optical issues going on, Iran, deportations, you know, Epstein files,

00:12:04.480 all that stuff. He doesn't need another unpopular thing on his plate. But the pro-life cause

00:12:14.040 is kind of focused on this like a laser beam and that's totally understandable again it's a huge

00:12:18.300 issue incredibly important a very moral thing to be worried about and i think that level of focus

00:12:25.320 is what's necessary in many time ways to get your political agenda over the line again i i have

00:12:31.300 mostly praise for the pro-life movement it's been the most dogged most relentless most methodical

00:12:38.060 most tactical uh movement in the conservative sphere that i've seen like they they really

00:12:46.040 have focused on getting things done and breaking these barriers down which is great however they

00:12:53.400 really can't ask trump to do this right now and not because it's not a good cause and not because

00:13:01.000 it's not a worthy thing

00:13:02.400 but because there are

00:13:05.320 larger issues at play

00:13:07.080 again the core issue

00:13:09.220 is the state referendum

00:13:10.700 if the pro-life movement

00:13:13.040 was winning at the state

00:13:15.340 level after the overturn of Roe vs. Wade

00:13:17.400 it wouldn't need Trump to go out and

00:13:19.280 do any of these things

00:13:20.520 but it can't win most of those elections

00:13:23.300 I think so far like South Dakota

00:13:25.220 is really the only one that is

00:13:26.720 actually affirmatively like started passing

00:13:29.280 big bans on this stuff

00:13:31.000 right? So they have not been able to win this argument at the state level. And again, super

00:13:37.460 frustrating. They're doing the Lord's work. I totally get it. A completely justified and

00:13:42.580 righteous crusade. But you need to understand that if you're losing consistently on the state

00:13:47.680 level, something has happened. And so today I want to explain what happened. Why did the pro-life

00:13:56.260 movement win one of its biggest victories of all time only to find out that the the ground

00:14:03.540 had shifted under the feet that the political reality they were facing was radically different

00:14:08.060 than it had ever been before and they had to completely recalculate their tactics

00:14:12.140 so the thing you have to understand the thing that has shifted the reason that you can't get

00:14:20.940 any support for the stuff at the state level, even though abortion was incredibly unpopular

00:14:27.580 and had to be forced through initially by the courts, is because in the time between

00:14:37.400 Roe versus Wade and the modern day, our society has shifted radically. It has changed in pretty

00:14:45.420 much every way you could imagine. And during that time, Roe versus Wade was the law of

00:14:51.720 the land. And Roe versus Wade created an incentive structure that put abortion at the center

00:14:58.260 of many of our economic and cultural systems and understandings. And even though that's

00:15:05.220 a horrible thing to say, it's just true. We have made literal child sacrifice the center

00:15:13.620 of our civilization last year in 2025 1.1 million children were aborted if you're wondering about

00:15:25.140 that birth rate crisis that's where it's going there's a lot of other factors and i think we

00:15:31.920 should change those too but if we had 1.1 million kids more in america every year you know that

00:15:40.520 grows the those kids have kids have kids that would really change our overall birth rate but

00:15:47.260 we don't because they get murdered in the womb and so because that happens uh we have all kinds

00:15:54.180 of other things that our society is able to do which i'll go through in a second but i want to

00:15:59.640 put you know in perspective that 1.1 million a year is insane right and this is just america

00:16:05.680 we're not talking about the western world we're not talking about europe we're just talking about

00:16:10.040 the United States. People will talk about the Mayan civilization or other civilizations which

00:16:16.340 were built on child sacrifice. There's nothing new about child sacrifice. Actually, this is one 0.67

00:16:24.720 of the oldest things in the world. We'll sacrifice a portion of our children now, and because we do

00:16:31.040 that, the divine, the gods, whatever, they will bless us. It will improve our fortunes. By killing

00:16:39.900 our own children we will do better this is an idea that has been at the center of many many 0.99

00:16:46.240 cultures throughout the years and we look at that because it was often done on like altars to you

00:16:54.300 know demonic entities and say oh how horrific how insane but the mayans could have never hoped

00:17:01.980 in their wildest dreams 0.83

00:17:03.960 to kill 1.1 1.00

00:17:05.620 million children a year. 0.75

00:17:08.660 Not even close.

00:17:10.360 Like just astronomical numbers.

00:17:13.760 That's a couple

00:17:14.300 World War IIs

00:17:15.380 every year.

00:17:17.860 That is insane

00:17:19.440 for the American population.

00:17:22.820 And yet

00:17:23.140 we treat it as if

00:17:26.200 it's nothing. It's casual.

00:17:28.340 We're modern people.

00:17:29.960 So because it happens in an

00:17:31.040 hospital bed somewhere, a Planned Parenthood somewhere that we don't see, it's fine. It's okay.

00:17:39.620 But make no mistake, America is founded on abortion now. This is the basis of America 0.98

00:17:46.440 and its systems at this point. We have engineered our society around abortion. 0.98

00:17:53.360 And so a lot of people assume that if you banned it, their lives would change radically,

00:17:58.240 that the system might have a serious impact and of course it would but that is a horrific thing

00:18:05.820 to recognize a horrific thing to realize about where your nation has become or has what your 0.73

00:18:12.840 nation has become so the first reason that abortion has become kind of this cornerstone

00:18:20.760 of our society is of course the sexual revolution with the advent of birth control for the first

00:18:26.760 time uh we had this understanding that female um fertility went from basically on to basically off

00:18:37.300 mary harrington in her book uh feminism against progress talks about this and i think does a

00:18:44.400 really good job saying that the it's the pill and that kind of that first uh transhuman

00:18:51.240 change, fundamental change to the rhythm of life that radically warped the world around us today. 0.70

00:19:01.000 Before, people had sex. People had plenty of sex. But they understood at all times that the cost

00:19:09.180 of having sex was that you could and probably would at some point have children. Now, this

00:19:16.460 encourage people to get married get married younger but there's still sex outside of marriage

00:19:21.440 in fact if you look at the statistics there's a lot of sex outside of marriage in many parts

00:19:26.500 of america but what happened what the the big thing that happened at that time was there were

00:19:32.500 a lot of basically shotgun marriages guy got a girlfriend pregnant he married her the end it

00:19:39.720 was expected and there's a several reasons for that that again we'll get it to in a second

00:19:44.440 but when that was no longer the case when you had this pill that in theory meant you could have sex

00:19:52.500 whenever you wanted and not expect to get pregnant the default setting for women was

00:19:57.680 no kids when you had sex obviously this radically changed the way that we look at sex 0.93

00:20:04.000 now you could have sex out of wedlock and basically have no consequences

00:20:11.120 and you could expect to have more and more of it so there's no reason to get married young

00:20:19.320 there's no reason to be pressured in to these earlier marriages there's no reason to become

00:20:24.720 dependent on some man because he knocked you up when you were having sex and this changed the way

00:20:31.580 that we formed families the age at which we got married the way which we understood the

00:20:37.440 relationships between the genders. But there's a dark side to this. Whatever you think about

00:20:43.440 contraception, and there's a wide variety of people who think it's perfectly fine and not

00:20:47.740 a problem at all, the people who think it's literally a sin against God. But however you

00:20:52.440 feel about contraception, at the very least, we can agree that no life is ever created because of

00:20:59.940 there is no killing of a child during it but so as as while you might have a moral problem

00:21:09.320 with contraception or you might have a problem with some of the sexual norms that grew out of

00:21:13.780 contraception you you have to acknowledge that relatively it's not as dark but the dark side of

00:21:21.220 it is the back end and again this is mary harrington's argument i'm just borrowing it

00:21:25.100 and the back end of it was that the pill didn't always work it wasn't actually this like perfect

00:21:31.620 miracle that solved all of these problems if anything it really just changed the expectations

00:21:38.140 what people thought should happen during sex and the other side of this is when the pill failed

00:21:45.540 because a woman didn't take it at the right time or she was on antibiotics or there was some other

00:21:52.060 issue, lots of different ways

00:21:54.220 the pill can not

00:21:55.960 work, whenever that happened

00:21:58.040 now you had a child

00:21:59.880 that you did not expect

00:22:02.200 and there's no longer

00:22:04.100 social pressure for you to

00:22:06.000 marry the father of that child

00:22:08.240 because 0.81

00:22:10.080 in many cases the father of the child

00:22:12.080 didn't think you were ever going to get pregnant

00:22:13.900 and he didn't feel responsible, you did

00:22:16.020 something wrong, you didn't take the pill, you didn't

00:22:17.980 do it right, you did something else, it's not my fault

00:22:20.040 the baby's your problem

00:22:21.340 and now you have women in a situation where the pill pill has failed they thought they were their

00:22:28.680 biology was off and now it's turned out it was on but the default was supposed to be off even

00:22:35.700 though that's never been the case in human history that's not how human biology works but technology

00:22:40.040 had told us that's what it was supposed to look like and we have to believe in a world where the

00:22:44.320 technology works all the time because if the technology doesn't work all the time you can't

00:22:48.040 have the free sex culture. You can't have the casual hookup culture. The entire culture is

00:22:53.340 built on the idea that this system works. And so abortion became that evil, dark backstop to the

00:23:02.540 pill. It allowed you to continue to have the illusion that you were in this safe environment

00:23:08.260 while having casual sex. Because if everything went wrong, if your pill didn't work, you still

00:23:16.760 had this emergency button you weren't just stuck as a single mom raising that kid or marrying some 1.00

00:23:22.920 guy because remember this means like dating habits and sex habits change women became far less picky 0.56

00:23:28.040 about the men they would have sex with because they didn't see every uh sex partner as a possible

00:23:33.420 man they would then become dependent on so they have casual sex with far shadier people that they

00:23:38.500 have no interest in ultimately being with like this just changes everyone's behavior radically 0.71

00:23:43.640 and it changes everyone's expectations radically and so without abortion you can't have the culture

00:23:50.500 that the pill promises the pill itself is not enough you have to have that abortion backstop

00:23:57.620 to truly deliver the idea that in all situations you can have as much sex with you as you want

00:24:04.400 with whoever you want and you will ultimately have no consequences that's what the pill promised

00:24:11.240 That's what the casual sex, the hookup culture, the sexual revolution was built on.

00:24:15.980 And obviously, we know the sexual revolution has been pretty much at the center of our

00:24:20.080 entire society ever since it happened.

00:24:22.100 It has changed literally everything about our society from our workplace to our family

00:24:26.460 structures, our dating, our TV, our movies, our music, whatever it is.

00:24:32.380 The hookup culture, the sexual revolution has absolutely fundamentally altered the way

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00:25:06.260 all right so the next thing you need to understand about why abortion is so central to the systems 0.84

00:25:17.320 of our society is that women have become integral to the workplace so one of the things that

00:25:27.500 obviously happened with the 60s and 70s was the shift of a lot of women considering themselves

00:25:34.300 to be part of the workplace. They start entering the workplace at some level. The numbers go up 0.96

00:25:40.480 every year, but this is the first time we really start to see a large amount of women enter the 0.98

00:25:45.340 workplace. And a large reason that's possible is the pill. Because the problem with women in the 1.00

00:25:52.800 workplace, of course, was that most of the time they were going to get pregnant. They're going 1.00

00:25:57.220 to have sex. People have sex. That's how people work. People want to have sex. They're supposed 0.99

00:26:00.980 to, they're literally wired to do it. And so pretty regularly, you can expect that if you

00:26:07.600 hire a woman into a job in a year or two, she's going to get pregnant and she won't be able to 0.89

00:26:12.440 work that job for at least nine months. And I, you know, before we were barbarians who told women to 0.98

00:26:17.980 get back to work after like three weeks of pregnancy, Hey, you've been with your baby a

00:26:22.480 whole month. Wow. You really must've bonded with them back to working in the cubicle. Like that's

00:26:27.400 so insane and evil i don't even want to get started on that but the point is that as an employer at

00:26:33.620 that time you were still moderately human like there was still an expectation that uh you knew

00:26:40.520 you couldn't treat mothers that way and so you just didn't have a lot of women in the workplace

00:26:46.440 because you knew that they're going to get pregnant they're going to have kids and they're 0.51

00:26:50.280 just not going to return to work for a couple of years and so there it just and once they even if

00:26:55.160 they did like you know they probably were having more kids they were taking care of the home like 1.00

00:26:59.440 the entire incentive structure was basically for women to be mothers and take care of their families 1.00

00:27:05.580 and their homes and their communities which by the way is way more valuable than working on 0.99

00:27:11.360 spreadsheets or you know you know whatever like moving moving numbers around looking through hr

00:27:18.400 files you know like this there is work and it's okay to take uh you know pride in work uh but

00:27:26.900 obviously like having children raising children impacting the next generation is itself huge

00:27:32.480 but remember women do all these other things right and and again we'll get to that in a second 1.00

00:27:37.380 i don't want to preempt that the point is women entered the workforce because of the pill they

00:27:44.080 no longer had to assume that they would get pregnant and their, you know, their employers

00:27:49.120 no longer had to assume that they get pregnant. And this has all kinds of huge benefits for

00:27:54.800 employers. Corporations love working women, love them, can't get enough of them. You might have 1.00

00:28:00.840 noticed over the years that they've been on a jihad to basically replace working men with working 1.00

00:28:05.140 women. And that's not an accident, right? Because there are a lot of things that working women do 0.98

00:28:11.140 for the employer first it basically doubles the labor pool we already know that employers love 1.00

00:28:18.100 bringing in illegal immigrants because it drives down wages but before illegal immigrants it was 0.95

00:28:23.200 women to be frank i know a lot of people don't like that but it's just true when you doubled

00:28:28.220 the size of the workforce from being men most of the time to being men and women bringing in a

00:28:34.980 higher percentage of women every year you increase the labor pool which means the wages that people

00:28:40.280 have to pay goes down. There's also the assumption previously before the pill and women entering in 0.97

00:28:45.960 the workforce that you needed to pay a man a living wage, not just for himself, but for his 0.79

00:28:51.920 family. You had to assume that men were the only breadwinners in their household. And it was immoral

00:28:58.300 for you as an employer to pay a man enough for only him to live because he had to take care of

00:29:04.340 a wife and a family. And you knew that. And so basically the cost of each employee was doubled

00:29:11.160 because you were paying him and you were also paying him enough for the child, for the wife,

00:29:18.800 for the house, all of those things. So what happened when women came into the workplace 1.00

00:29:25.580 is now employers didn't feel the pressure to do that. They didn't feel the pressure to pay 0.96

00:29:30.700 enough for a family to live on one wage. In fact, Democrats have talked about this. Elizabeth

00:29:37.600 Warren famously wrote a book called The Two-Income Trap, where she explains as a leftist 1.00

00:29:43.880 that corporations tricked women into taking on these jobs so they could pay each person less. 1.00

00:29:53.820 And because each person was movable and fungible, you didn't have to worry about coupling that large 1.00

00:29:59.200 wage together. You got double the labor for the same wage. Instead of getting one man doing the

00:30:05.060 job that raised a family, you got a man and his wife both working for the same amount that just

00:30:11.760 the man used to work for. So you doubled your labor and cut your cost. Again, you can see why

00:30:18.520 employers love this, but it gets much, much darker as to why employers love this idea of abortion.

00:30:25.700 because of course

00:30:27.740 anything that you get with the pill

00:30:30.060 has to be backstopped with abortion

00:30:31.740 that's the key, that's what you gotta understand 0.81

00:30:34.080 the promise is the pill

00:30:35.600 the reality is abortion 0.99

00:30:37.300 the promise is you don't get pregnant 0.84

00:30:39.680 the reality is if you do get pregnant 1.00

00:30:41.960 you better kill your baby 1.00

00:30:43.400 that's implicit 1.00

00:30:45.700 but because the promise is always the pill

00:30:47.900 first

00:30:48.480 you never have to think about what it will really cost

00:30:52.120 later on

00:30:52.880 now 1.00

00:30:54.540 Now, you're probably familiar with this, but many employers will pay for the abortions of 1.00

00:31:01.360 their female workers. When Roe versus Wade got overturned, employers were literally saying that 0.99

00:31:07.060 they were going to ship their female employees to different states to go kill their baby on 0.99

00:31:10.980 the company's dime because they were that valuable to the company. I don't have to explain to you how 0.98

00:31:16.420 evil that is, but that is corporations and what they do. And so this idea that like feminists 1.00

00:31:23.520 and liberals or fighting against the corporate power by getting abortion was insane. Actually, 0.71

00:31:29.740 it's exactly the opposite. You were enabling the corporations and their power. You were reducing

00:31:36.220 the value of labor. You were doing everything that you said the left didn't want to happen.

00:31:42.140 You were accelerating the rate at which corporations had to control over everybody

00:31:46.860 because of this move. But again, there are so many more reasons that employers prefer

00:31:54.320 female employees. One, female employees, in addition to driving down the wages in the labor 1.00

00:32:02.880 pool, also are far less likely, by all statistics, to ask for a raise. Women are fundamentally more 1.00

00:32:12.920 agreeable. Now I'm going to say something here and it's just going to go for everything, but it feels

00:32:18.460 almost unnecessary to say it, but I'm just going to get the disclaimer in right here. I am making

00:32:22.080 broad generalizations because that's what we have to do when we're talking at scale. I'm looking at

00:32:28.620 data. I'm looking at trends. I'm looking at reality, but obviously individual people are

00:32:33.600 different. There are very disagreeable women. There are very forceful women. There are women 1.00

00:32:38.820 who will stand up and fight on all these issues and there are men who will be cowed on all these

00:32:43.080 things who will be cowards who will take a beating i'm not saying women who are you know fiery and

00:32:49.640 will push back don't exist and i'm not saying men that are weak and subservient don't exist

00:32:53.640 i'm not saying that but when we speak on these brad categories i have to speak in generalizations

00:32:59.600 and when we look at women in general they are more agreeable meaning that they do not like conflict 0.88

00:33:05.340 And they will avoid conflict even if it hurts them. So women are far less likely to ask for raises, far less likely to try to increase their pay. 0.99

00:33:16.320 women are also far less likely to fight back against their replacement women are far less

00:33:26.140 likely to protest to take action to do something that would otherwise not benefit the company the 1.00

00:33:33.060 corporation whatever in order to protest the idea that they're not getting a wage hike or

00:33:37.960 they're being replaced by an immigrant or their job is being sent overseas everyone knows that

00:33:44.580 men are just far more forceful and more far more aggressive in these areas men are far more likely

00:33:50.580 to take risks far more likely to be assertive in the workplace and so these are all qualities that

00:33:58.800 if you're a manager trying to like just put a little put put your widgets in place and make

00:34:03.740 sure that they do what they're told you don't want men in those spots you want women in those spots

00:34:08.800 again this is not an attack on women this is just an addressing human nature and again these these

00:34:13.760 things are backed up with statistics. Like I'm not just pulling it out of nowhere.

00:34:19.840 Now, another reason that our system loves this idea of changing the dynamic of men and women

00:34:29.240 and women in motherhood is that it creates a lot more economic activity. We love that GDP, man.

00:34:37.900 We don't really want to look at like whether our society is really benefiting. 0.69

00:34:41.500 what we want is to see those numbers go up we want to see that line go up so if you take moms 0.96

00:34:51.140 who were doing all this work i told you i was going to get back to this they were doing all

00:34:57.220 this work like i want to be really clear because again when you talk about this stuff people like

00:35:01.880 oh well you you think that you know the men are doing the important jobs and the women aren't

00:35:05.400 doing anything about no exactly the opposite women are having the children women are raising 0.89

00:35:10.880 the children. Women are educating the children. Women are caring for the home. But it doesn't 1.00

00:35:15.880 stop there. Those are just the things you automatically think of. Women are also the

00:35:20.100 glue that hold a high-trust society together. Women, because they're home, because they're 1.00

00:35:27.480 around, they create this safety network, this constant observation in your neighborhood. 1.00

00:35:35.060 it. If a woman is on the clothesline, hanging up her clothes, she's watching all the kids around

00:35:41.880 her. She's looking at the neighborhood. If she's out there at the window because she's taking care

00:35:47.800 of the kids or, you know, working on something in the kitchen, she is observing the world around

00:35:54.220 her. She's available to do things like watch other people's kids. She's available to run,

00:35:59.880 PTA meetings or charity drives. She's available to help with the local food bank. She's available

00:36:08.660 to organize events around art, culture, literature. She's able to volunteer at critical organizations

00:36:17.100 that build these voluntary associations that people like Alexander de Tocqueville said were

00:36:23.680 the core of America. In fact, de Tocqueville finds at some level the same realization that

00:36:31.280 Bertrand de Juvenal finds many years later. Both these Frenchmen come to the same conclusion.

00:36:37.040 It is these voluntary associations that keep government small. Americans didn't need a big

00:36:43.080 government because women were at home and they were building these associations, these connections, 1.00

00:36:51.040 this social credit 0.99

00:36:53.460 and so you didn't have to have people step in 1.00

00:36:57.360 and do all the things that women were doing 1.00

00:36:59.680 which is amazing if what you care about 0.99

00:37:03.660 is the health of your society

00:37:04.920 and keeping your government small

00:37:06.760 and keeping your people virtuous

00:37:08.360 however if your goal is to increase the size of government

00:37:11.860 and increase the power of corporations

00:37:13.460 and increase the economic output

00:37:16.000 the GDP number

00:37:17.100 that's all bad because guess what 1.00

00:37:19.300 all that work women were doing 1.00

00:37:21.000 it wasn't in the economic sphere it didn't show up on balance sheets it didn't drive 1.00

00:37:28.500 growth year to year when it came to looking at the bottom line and so when you take women 0.79

00:37:35.860 out of that equation when you remove women from the home suddenly all of that social capital

00:37:43.440 that was not in the market gets de-territorialized out of the family out of you know this sphere of 0.81

00:37:52.420 organic human connection and it has to still exist like your society can't actually function

00:37:58.600 without that stuff so it has to get re-territorialized into the market and so when you 0.99

00:38:04.020 move all of the female jobs all of the female roles all of the social capital that females 1.00

00:38:11.200 we're creating out of the economic zone and you move it into the economic zone, of course, 1.00

00:38:17.120 GDP goes up, line goes up, economic activity goes up because now there's all these surrogates who 1.00

00:38:23.260 have to do what women did when they were mothers. You need teachers to not just educate at some 1.00

00:38:31.080 level, but have to watch the kids after school, have to teach them all these things that mothers

00:38:36.760 would have taught them previously. You need all the people who would go to the grocery store,

00:38:42.600 all the people who would keep a neighborhood safe, watch over people, raise children,

00:38:48.280 take care of things, clean things, maintain things, weave things, create art. All these things

00:38:57.980 that once existed with women at home now have to turn into things that are done by economic actors. 1.00

00:39:06.760 You have to hire people to do all of that work that women were doing outside of the 0.99

00:39:12.600 economic sphere. 0.95

00:39:13.460 So now you've moved all of the women who were doing those things at home or, you know, in 1.00

00:39:20.740 their community into the economic sphere. 0.78

00:39:23.080 And in many cases, you're just shuffling them around.

00:39:25.620 So most of the professions initially that women went into were things like teaching,

00:39:30.340 caregiving, nursing, you know, all these things, caring professions, things that you think

00:39:35.400 women would kind of naturally be good at. But now they're not at home to raise their children 1.00

00:39:40.740 because they're going to work at a school to take care of someone else's children. So they're

00:39:46.620 putting their kids in daycare so they can go raise someone else's kids. It's a surrogate activity. 0.84

00:39:52.180 You're creating this, like, I mean, it's the most insane way to do this, right? But you're

00:39:57.760 basically saying, I'm going to take this thing that you used to do better for your children,

00:40:03.200 and I'm going to make you a proxy of that for someone else's children and then have someone

00:40:07.800 else do that for your children if you pay them. So many women are going to jobs where they work 1.00

00:40:14.260 most of their time to pay other women to do the things they would have done if they were at home 1.00

00:40:18.980 anyway. They pay someone to clean their home. They pay someone to prepare their meals. They 1.00

00:40:23.000 pay someone to deliver their groceries. They pay someone to raise their children. They pay someone

00:40:27.140 to care for their elderly parents. They pay someone to organize the local soccer league and

00:40:31.760 you know, the, the, the neighborhood watch and whatever, right? Like all of a sudden now those

00:40:35.780 are paid positions. Those are extra economic activities that are occurring. And so now you

00:40:42.740 fundamentally shifted all of that work out of that, just so, you know, that, that social fabric

00:40:49.580 and into the economy. And again, you can see why employers love it. It's an explosion.

00:40:55.720 It's an explosion in economic activity. Now today we're not having enough kids. And so we're

00:41:01.420 bringing a lot of illegal immigrants in to do a lot of that work it's not a joke to say that like 0.99

00:41:08.200 all these rich people have you know nannies from south america what are they doing they're hiring 0.58

00:41:15.840 they're hiring illegal immigrants to come in and do what their wives used to do because there 1.00

00:41:22.740 aren't enough native women to do that job that you know they were getting hired to do instead of 1.00

00:41:30.000 raising their kids. So it's this insane runaway economic cycle. It's, it's civilizational 1.00

00:41:35.400 suicide, but in the meantime, the numbers go up. Right. And so that's the absolute, like, just

00:41:42.020 you're burning everything at both ends to try to keep getting that number up. You're completely

00:41:46.540 deconstructing your society in the attempt to like build this economic tower, but that's what

00:41:52.040 we're doing. And you can see why employers love that so much. The other function that this serves

00:42:02.560 is to suppress the power of men because men are always the greatest imminent threat to a bad

00:42:11.620 regime. Again, not to say that women can't be revolutionary at some level or be dangerous at

00:42:17.300 some level or lead, you know, at some level, but men are physically more likely to be dangerous

00:42:25.700 or more likely to be violent. If they get disgruntled, they are far more likely to create

00:42:31.080 real and immediate consequences for the people who are hurting them and their families.

00:42:36.680 And so you don't want men in positions of power. You don't want men to be wealthy. You don't want

00:42:41.480 men to run things you don't want men to be competing for your power because men who are

00:42:48.100 educated and employed and you know pillars of their community if you do something really wrong

00:42:54.420 they can lead because people will follow them and they can do violence because they're men 0.68

00:43:00.340 in a way that women just can't do so if you're a society who is about to harm its entire population

00:43:07.420 If you're a set of elites, I don't know, let's just say in a place like the United States of America, who were planning to, like, replace your population and tax them into oblivion and put kill switches in their cars that allow you to just kind of, you know, shut them down and basically probably assassinate them at any moment. 0.98

00:43:24.940 And you don't want a lot of angry, well-heeled, employed men with a lot to lose.

00:43:33.320 Because those guys, they might get together and organize something.

00:43:37.380 They might fight back. 1.00

00:43:39.120 Women, it's just less likely. 0.93

00:43:40.780 Again, not an attack on women.

00:43:42.200 This is just the reality.

00:43:45.340 Because here's the other thing.

00:43:46.520 To do this, to keep men from getting into the workforce and building estates and lineages and clans and communities and people who might, say, pick up a rifle if things went really south, in order to do that, you need to disrupt family formation. 0.94

00:44:05.780 Well, guess what the sexual revolution was really good at? 1.00

00:44:08.080 the sexual revolution with the default being women don't have children meant fewer and fewer people

00:44:15.520 felt pressured into marriage you know you might say well that's that's a good thing or and we

00:44:19.080 don't want people in marriages that they don't want to be in well i get that but that's a

00:44:24.760 misunderstanding of human nature right the truth is that most people do things because they have to

00:44:30.620 and if they don't have to do them they just don't and that's why i ward against ubi and i ward

00:44:37.320 it's these other things because once you like just give once you take away necessity from people

00:44:43.180 they don't prosper that's not what it is people are like oh well once i don't have to work for a

00:44:47.580 living i'll just make sculptures and write poetry and uh you know uh make screenplays and invent

00:44:53.240 things in my garage no you're not you're gonna watch xbox you're gonna watch netflix you're

00:44:58.740 gonna smoke pot like that's what you're actually going to do with your time so men and women

00:45:05.780 being forced to marry each other due to necessity was actually relatively healthy for a lot of 0.78

00:45:13.940 not everyone obviously they're bad marriages i know that but abortion rates have or abortion

00:45:19.320 rates and uh divorce rates have only skyrocketed since people didn't have to get married

00:45:27.160 so fewer people are getting married and more of the people who do get married are getting divorced

00:45:32.880 when you don't have the pressure when you don't have the necessity because guess what

00:45:36.980 dependence keeps people together

00:45:39.240 it's good to like each other it's good to love each other it's good to be interested in each

00:45:45.820 other and care about each other and i know it's going to be unpopular again to say this but like

00:45:51.620 at the end of the day what really keeps you together with someone is you need them and maybe

00:45:56.540 on an emotional level, but also very much in a real, economic, physical way.

00:46:03.820 That dependence breeds love after a while, actually, if you're in a committed relationship

00:46:11.700 many times.

00:46:13.120 But you won't enter into it if you don't have that pressure.

00:46:17.860 And so making sure that men and women didn't form families kept men out of marriage, kept

00:46:23.240 them out of family formation, kept them from feeling the need to climb the ladder, to succeed

00:46:28.780 in business, to, you know, forge a way forward to provide for their family. And it has another

00:46:36.580 advantage for the state because women are always going to be vulnerable at some point in their 0.99

00:46:44.420 life. The reality is that women are just less capable of violence than men. Again, it's not 0.76

00:46:51.420 attack on anyone doesn't make anyone superior but it's just true women cannot do the level of

00:46:57.660 violence men can do that means women will always be vulnerable because somewhere there will always 0.99

00:47:03.300 be someone who can overpower them now again there are weak men that get their butts kicked you know 0.96

00:47:08.060 it's not like men don't need protection at some level but women needed a lot more look we all 0.94

00:47:14.020 know this right there are parts of town where you don't want to walk through but you would never let

00:47:19.000 a woman walk through alone we all know this we'd say hey man i don't know if you should go down

00:47:24.740 there but if a woman says hey i'm gonna go down there in the middle of the night by myself you're 1.00

00:47:28.300 like absolutely you're not you're gonna get killed right because we just know women are just easier

00:47:34.700 prey and so that means that women who live alone women who do not have that level of protection 0.99

00:47:41.640 they're always going to be more reliant on the state at some level but also women are always

00:47:46.460 going to be very very vulnerable during pregnancy again this is a huge part of why people you know 0.76

00:47:55.460 basically evolved the roles that we have in society today women didn't go into the workplace 0.84

00:48:01.420 not because like we did there's some conspiracy against women women go to the workplace because 0.99

00:48:06.520 they literally couldn't before the pill between you know even you know not to get gross here but 1.00

00:48:12.160 before the invention of like you know tampons and sanitary napkins that really worked 1.00

00:48:16.840 like women were extremely you know vulnerable and taken out of the work you know any work they were 0.99

00:48:23.160 doing at some level because of menstruation and then obviously if they're pregnant or they have

00:48:28.980 a young child that they're trying to care for like they're incredibly vulnerable they can't

00:48:33.300 protect themselves they can't work and if they have men that they are loyal to then they're

00:48:41.240 dependent on those men for those things the man provides for them when they can't divide the men

00:48:46.760 protects them when they can't the the system of authority and reliance is the man the family

00:48:54.420 that's what forms the family but if you don't have that then that means that the government has to do 0.75

00:49:02.860 it because women will always basically be de facto married to someone women can marry men or women 0.72

00:49:10.180 can marry the state but women will marry someone that's going to happen so while we put it at a

00:49:16.400 level of abstraction you know we have women fill out forms and stuff to make it feel very bureaucratic 0.98

00:49:21.500 and managerial and and modern the truth is that when women are not married to men they are dependent 0.77

00:49:30.100 on the state for those conditions for when they can't work when they're pregnant when they're

00:49:35.960 young mothers when they can't provide for themselves or protect for themselves. They're 0.84

00:49:40.220 not going to men. They're not going to husbands. They're not getting married. They're going to the 1.00

00:49:44.620 state. And this makes the state more powerful, as it always does. Anything that the state takes

00:49:49.040 the responsibility on, they also take the power from. So when women stop relying on men, they 0.90

00:49:54.700 don't stop relying. They don't become strong, independent females. They become wards of the 0.97

00:49:59.880 state. Just like an illegal immigrant who comes in and can't earn a living, can't get a job. 1.00

00:50:05.520 But as soon as they get the ability to vote, they're going to vote for whoever will give them the most stuff, give them the job. 0.68

00:50:10.360 Again, that doesn't make anyone in this equation evil.

00:50:13.380 This is just how sovereignty works, how social systems work.

00:50:18.560 And so just to wrap this up, we're in a scenario where the incentives have shifted radically.

00:50:26.620 our society can't imagine a world in which women don't work where women don't go to school where

00:50:32.680 women get married young and form families and take care of their communities instead of you 1.00

00:50:37.920 know becoming middle managers in corporations that hate them and you know we see corporations 0.75

00:50:44.620 pay for abortions or tell women that they can freeze their eggs and you know they can they can

00:50:48.560 have children later that you can you can pay some other woman some surrogate like forget surrogate 0.61

00:50:52.980 activities actual pregnancy and surrogacy you pay some other woman to have your child because

00:50:58.860 you're too you're too valuable as an economic unit to actually mother your own child to birth

00:51:05.660 your own child like that's how insane the process has become but it is that is the case right that's

00:51:11.440 where we're at because we've warped the incentives of our society so radically that most people can't

00:51:17.340 imagine functioning in it without abortion as a backstop to the pill and to be fair they're 0.97

00:51:22.620 basically right we've set up the system where you're you know basically many women would fail 0.89

00:51:28.420 out of it without abortion in the same way that if we didn't have affirmative action you'd see

00:51:33.500 some pretty big shifts when it came to representation and diversity in corporations

00:51:37.360 and then all these other things so as society is currently constructed after you know what 40 plus

00:51:45.840 years of uh you know roe versus wade we have constructed your society in a way that is

00:51:52.400 entirely dependent on abortion and people even good people even conservatives even people in

00:51:57.680 red states they recognize this they may not say it out loud they probably couldn't articulate

00:52:02.240 everything i just said in that monologue but they they do recognize this like they do know this in

00:52:09.240 the back of their brain and so they're not going to vote to basically hamstring themselves and

00:52:16.300 take themselves out of the economy they're not going to vote to shut themselves off and make

00:52:20.680 themselves low status because that's what we've made motherhood we've turned the most beautiful

00:52:25.780 thing in the world to being low status and this is just a civilizational death spiral i've already

00:52:30.720 made a video about this but i'll bring it back up just real quick if you want to go to the video 1.00

00:52:34.000 you can see more but Oswald Spengler talked about this how this form of feminism was just 1.00

00:52:40.600 the death of civilizations because once the question becomes should we have children rather 0.97

00:52:47.420 than children being this common rhythm of life this expectation that just occurs as as surely 0.98

00:52:53.780 as the sun rises at that point your society is due because if a woman doesn't see herself

00:53:00.420 primarily as a mother, doesn't see the completion of motherhood as like the fulfillment of who she 0.67

00:53:06.940 is or her ontological orientation, then you're just going to see people opt out of it over and

00:53:14.460 over and over again. And Spangler predicted this, you know, over 100 years ago. So if you want to

00:53:21.100 see more about that, go check out my video from Oswald Spangler. But the point being, this is

00:53:26.580 entirely predictable and it only gets reversed if we radically change the incentives so i'm not

00:53:35.060 saying i'm against banning abortion you know on many different levels i don't think i do think

00:53:41.380 you should be able to save a mother like if the choice is between the mother and the child or 0.99

00:53:46.440 especially if there's just no way the baby's really going to be born then i think you should

00:53:50.240 still have it available but in pretty much other every other scenario i don't think that you should

00:53:54.360 kill the child but that said

00:53:57.280 you can't force that on people 0.99

00:54:01.280 in the system we have now you simply have made it impossible

00:54:04.960 to do so if you want people if you want to win

00:54:08.140 these arguments conservatives are going to have to do something

00:54:11.140 really hard much harder even than getting

00:54:14.200 a bunch of supreme court justices on or even getting

00:54:17.220 an abortion ban on a national level if you really

00:54:20.380 want to change this you have to change our culture 0.98

00:54:24.360 You have to tell women that it's okay to be mothers.

00:54:27.620 It's okay to care for your children.

00:54:29.460 It's okay for that to be your identity.

00:54:31.480 In fact, the things you do, not just raising children, not just taking care of the home,

00:54:35.520 but the society you build by being at home, that social network, that social fabric,

00:54:39.660 that social capital you build up by running the Rotary Club, by volunteering at the church,

00:54:45.100 by being available to help someone in need next door who doesn't know what to do with their kids

00:54:51.020 or being there to take care of your elderly parents.

00:54:54.360 Those things that you do, they are way more important than making some corporation slightly richer because you rearranged something on a computer screen.

00:55:05.440 Actually, this changes the world when you actually care about your civilization enough to do that work.

00:55:12.280 And we need a culture that honors that. 1.00

00:55:16.460 We have to look at women who stay home and take care of not just their families, but their communities. 0.93

00:55:22.540 and we need to elevate them we need to honor them we need to praise them that needs to be

00:55:27.480 high status oh you have to send you have to send your wife to work oh i'm so sorry

00:55:33.540 we're blessed my wife gets to stay home take care of our kids make sure they're well educated

00:55:40.840 make sure they eat healthy food help out with her ailing mother volunteer at the church to

00:55:47.340 Make sure the homeless are taken care of.

00:55:49.780 Organize that literary circle that allows us to put on plays at the theater downtown.

00:55:57.480 Because that's high status.

00:55:59.280 That's high status. 0.70

00:56:00.240 That's what high status people do. 0.97

00:56:01.960 You have to shift that balance.

00:56:04.140 And if you don't shift it, if you don't make that effort, then all your talk in the world about abortion is just not going to change.

00:56:11.200 People need better incentives.

00:56:12.400 You have to change the system fundamentally.

00:56:14.620 Because right now, America is built on child sacrifice.

00:56:17.340 sorry it's ugly it's horrible it's evil but it's true we're killing 1.1 billion children a year

00:56:26.460 or billion sorry 1.1 million children a year in america alone

00:56:29.740 and that's what allows our economy to run it way it does that's what allows us to

00:56:35.400 run our society to grow our government to build up our corporate profits

00:56:39.460 those children are being sacrificed on the altar of economic development and 0.79

00:56:46.080 you know liberation for sexuality and growing government and corporate profits

00:56:53.660 and until we address that nothing else changes all right guys i ran really wrong with that but

00:57:00.560 i think it's an important topic i got into it so that it is what it is i'll just talk about

00:57:05.900 the virginia thing real quick so uh this is huge like this is a big deal so like i don't want to

00:57:11.120 undersell this but i just don't have a ton of time left to get into it so i'll hit the points

00:57:15.340 really quick uh obviously the republicans were facing a very difficult uh midterm coming up

00:57:21.740 there's always difficulty with incumbent midterms you pretty much always expect to lose at some

00:57:25.720 level but on top of that uh the affordability issue when it came to uh the economy uh the war

00:57:33.160 in iran uh the mishandling of epstein files uh general inability of the republican congress to

00:57:39.900 literally do anything useful these were all marks that were really against the republicans it was

00:57:44.520 not looking good and i'm not promising you that they're going to win or anything here what i'm

00:57:49.100 saying is there might actually be a chance and that the chance exists for the most shocking

00:57:53.680 reason ever so after not bothering to really fight over the virginia elections and properly fund them

00:58:01.360 and work against what was going on there and allowing this radical redistricting we saw a

00:58:05.920 scenario where basically virginia was going to delete several uh republican seats uh from the

00:58:12.960 house by redistricting in virginia they were gonna go from 5-4 to like uh like 9-1 i believe

00:58:21.140 was the breakdown uh democrats versus republicans and uh that was a huge deal because it made 0.96

00:58:30.160 everyone suddenly understand that you can't just sit on your butt and you actually have to fight 0.61

00:58:34.220 over these redistricting things a lot of the republicans in these different states are saying 0.94

00:58:37.880 oh well you know i don't want to do that that's cheating that's breaking the rules we can't use 0.94

00:58:42.500 power that way blah blah all the same excuses all the lame loser talk that we see from them all the

00:58:48.200 time but when you see that in virginia you realize oh no they're playing a different level of game

00:58:54.680 and so this creates like an arms race where all of a sudden like you realize actually we do need

00:58:58.920 to get on this now the republicans butts were saved in two ways one we got the huge supreme

00:59:05.000 court ruling saying that uh that uh article two or section two of the voting rights act

00:59:12.140 was misunderstood and you do not have to specifically carve out racial minority districts

00:59:18.720 uh in the south just to make sure that there's like a black politician there like you don't have

00:59:23.840 to artificially engineer black politicians uh to help the democratic party which many people

00:59:30.020 you know like the law literally said we had to do that so that ruling came down and that opened

00:59:35.280 the floodgates because ron desantis got pc optimum points visit shoppers drug mart for the bonus

00:59:42.680 redemption event and get more for your points friday may 8th to wednesday may 13th valid in

00:59:48.760 store and online he's awesome he's great he's fantastic he's the best governor i've ever seen

00:59:58.180 my life and ronda santis was like you know what minute that ruling comes down we saw what happened

01:00:03.500 in virginia boom we're doing it in florida we don't have to maintain those artificial black

01:00:08.700 districts anymore we're completely redrawing the map plus four seats for republicans and then we

01:00:14.280 saw tennessee do a similar thing change their map added seats texas and then there's so many others

01:00:22.400 that could do this that haven't even done it yet you know you got georgia louisiana alabama south

01:00:27.420 Carolina who knows right like all these are possible all these could be redrawn they probably

01:00:32.280 won't all be but you can see there's a massive shift here but it gets even better because not

01:00:37.860 only did you see that arms race that reaction where Ron DeSantis leads and then all these other

01:00:42.960 legislatures say you know what we need to do that too and they start looking at the redistricting

01:00:47.800 but Virginia's court overturned the initial redistricting by Democrats because they said

01:00:55.120 oh you guys added this like ballot initiative after people started voting for house representatives

01:01:01.740 so it got added to the ballot after some people had already voted so you are broken the rules by

01:01:06.680 trying to rush this onto the ballot in time for you know the the the midterm elections and that

01:01:12.060 means that you denied access to these voters we're overturning this ruling so that means those seats

01:01:18.240 the democrats picked up they're gone they're back to republicans and so now not only did the

01:01:24.240 democrats not gain those seats in virginia they triggered the arms race and all these other

01:01:28.980 republican states redistricted and we gain seats in all of them and there could be more so you know

01:01:36.240 amazing i can't believe i'm saying this but the republicans might have actually

01:01:42.560 saved a disastrous midterm election by really using power to ensure victories in elections

01:01:51.560 so they could gain more power they did the thing after years and years and years and years and years

01:01:57.720 of saying republicans have to use power gop has to use power conservatives have to use power the

01:02:01.860 right has to use power they did it they actually did it now don't get me wrong don't be too proud

01:02:07.120 they they were saved by two consecutive insane decisions by courts if it wasn't for the supreme

01:02:13.540 court if it wasn't for thomas alito if it wasn't for the virginia court we'd still be screwed right

01:02:21.440 like it would we'd be in a bad place but that did happen and to their credit the republicans

01:02:26.880 actually took advantage of the situation they actually used power and did something positive

01:02:32.560 they actually pretended for a minute like maybe their political party who wants to win

01:02:36.860 and this is crazy because you know just a few weeks ago i made a whole rant about how they

01:02:41.660 just would never do this so i am so glad to be wrong in this one instance i don't know if we've

01:02:46.200 learned this lesson entirely i don't know if there's a sea change for the republican party

01:02:49.280 I'm a little doubtful about that, but Hey man, I'm going to take the win.

01:02:52.520 I'm going to take this W now, again, this doesn't guarantee us wins in November.

01:02:57.340 It doesn't guarantee us the midterms.

01:02:59.400 The odds are still against us, but they were pretty bleak before.

01:03:02.920 And now things are in play.

01:03:05.860 Now things that were never going to happen could happen again, not predicting a victory. 0.66

01:03:11.760 We just saw Iran break the ceasefire in, you know, the, the straight again.

01:03:19.280 Um, eventually at some point, Trump's going to respond to that. He can't, I mean, I hope he gets out of there, but you know, obviously like how many times can they break the ceasefire before he's going to restart this war? I don't know. That said, um, this is still a huge win. This is a huge deal. This is a huge change. And I'm glad to see Republicans do it. I give a lot of crap to conservatives. I give a lot of crap to Republicans, but only because they weren't doing stuff like this.

01:03:45.120 so when they do it I'm going to praise them I'm not going to sit here and be like well I still 0.99

01:03:49.060 want to be mean to them no I wasn't being mean to them to be mean to them I wasn't doing it just to

01:03:53.100 be hateful and like get attention I was doing it because it needed to happen we absolutely had to

01:03:57.220 see people make this change and they actually did so fantastic well done well done GOP don't

01:04:04.920 didn't expect to say that I will of course again say Ron DeSantis starting this uh you know start

01:04:09.680 starting this a little bit glad to see it love that guy still time to make him king of Florida

01:04:14.340 we still got a few more months we can do it we can figure it out uh but fantastic see glad glad

01:04:20.500 to hear it big big fan of seeing a w here after uh what has not been so many here recently so

01:04:27.200 well done actually using power republican party words i did not think would come out of my mouth

01:04:33.620 anytime soon all right let's go to the questions of people here real quick

01:04:38.600 sean wineland says better to be feared needed than loved desired yeah i mean yeah i don't think i'd

01:04:47.480 put that way to your wife uh but uh you know machiavelli's got some points here right like

01:04:53.060 yes these principles do transfer ultimately it is that dependence that holds stronger bonds

01:04:58.960 than fleeting emotions and again you should love your wife you should care for your life

01:05:05.700 your wife god you know the bible literally says that we should treat our wives the way that christ

01:05:13.440 treated the church and christ died for the church so i want to make it clear here i'm not telling

01:05:18.020 men don't love your wives i'm telling you exactly the opposite you need to do exactly what the bible

01:05:22.800 said which is love your wife enough to die for her if necessary that said the bonds of dependency

01:05:30.040 are more stable over time than any given emotion people you know if you've been in a relationship

01:05:36.420 long enough you know you have bad days you have rough patches you know you fall into love you

01:05:41.180 fall out of love but the difference is you didn't used to get divorced when you fell out of love

01:05:46.740 you figured it out because you needed each other and then it turns out after a while of working at

01:05:52.960 it and figuring it out you like each other again because you're human beings and your emotions

01:05:57.360 change. So being an adult is recognizing that you don't just run out the door because you're not

01:06:02.480 feeling it someday. But that's the culture we created because we allowed, you know, basically

01:06:07.900 this lack of dependence. Women can always just marry the state instead. They can divorce you 1.00

01:06:11.800 and marry the state. And so, you know, without that dependence, yep, that's exactly right.

01:06:17.660 Eventually there will be a moment where love is not enough and people will leave. And so that's

01:06:22.720 one of the very big downsides of having this scenario you are making families inherently

01:06:27.760 less stable by giving people options that aren't the family

01:06:31.460 treadle said uh says even evangelicals harbor a feminist streak contra the social correction

01:06:39.160 necessary to pro-life goals patriarchy bros are right about this yep that's i mean that's true

01:06:44.400 I can't deny this there is um you know I I just talked with a pastor on uh Monday and we were

01:06:53.660 talking about this how the prominence of women in churches has made them more feminine um and that

01:07:00.560 has shifted radically uh obviously what gets taught what's good emphasized like you know are

01:07:06.040 you really a pastor who someone wants you know wants to tell your congregation of mostly women

01:07:09.860 that they need to be subject to their husbands and listen to what they say you know probably not

01:07:14.400 Actually, you're probably not going to. I've noticed that, you know, that passage doesn't get read out on Mother's Day, but you do get all the passages about how men need to die for and and protect for and care for their wives on Father's Day.

01:07:29.440 you know you don't have to be a rocket scientist to put that incentive structure together uh so i

01:07:35.980 agree with you 100 and again this is a very hard i'm not going to win any any any uh love on this

01:07:42.640 one uh but you know at some point churches have to be able to tell women no like we know to tell

01:07:49.220 men no we know we have to tell men don't be violent don't sleep around on your wives don't

01:07:54.720 beat your kids don't do these male behaviors that you're preconditioned to that are bad you have a 0.85

01:08:03.040 nature that is sinful and you must control it we just don't tell women that we just don't we don't 0.86

01:08:09.860 talk about sins that women commit more often and because of that um you know there there's a 0.99

01:08:16.920 lopsidedness in the way that that's presented and when you don't tell women no the same way you tell

01:08:22.020 men know women feel entitled and they do what they want and you end up in a lot of the situations

01:08:26.320 you're in big part of the pro-life movement has been avoiding demonizing the actions of women and

01:08:31.660 i get that abortion doctors are ghoulish and evil and at best they should all be in jail for the rest

01:08:37.560 of their lives at best uh probably much worse but i won't say it on camera that said that's been

01:08:45.280 where all the emphasis is because you don't want to make the focus of on women's behavior but the

01:08:50.400 truth is women's behavior does have to change and to be clear men's behavior has changed too

01:08:54.460 takes two to have casual sex guys so this isn't just on women but you know we spend a lot of time

01:09:01.360 telling men they're wrong so i'm not going to spend all my time reiterating all the ways in 0.84

01:09:04.840 which men need to do better which you know you do but yeah part of this is women yeah at least 50

01:09:10.900 probably a little more since they have had more of the momentum here recently if they don't take

01:09:16.520 agency on that then you know you end up in this scenario

01:09:20.020 jacob zindel says slippery slope dr uh ellen weeby is a baby boomer md and university professor 0.60

01:09:29.560 in british canada has provided abortions for generations over the last decade she has made

01:09:34.580 over 400 made patients oh of course yeah if you're willing to kill an innocent life you're willing 0.80

01:09:38.840 to kill an innocent life what's the difference right it's only a level of abstraction abortion

01:09:44.880 alter assisted suicide alter it's the same alter it's the it's the murder of people to the state

01:09:51.900 to economic uh you know efficiency to autonomy whatever whatever you're sacrificing for so yeah

01:09:58.340 100 you're absolutely right and florida henry says after uh or my two cent theory is that the pill

01:10:05.300 has altered a human evolution forever um i don't know not probably not forever like if you stop

01:10:12.400 taking the pill, you still have babies, right? Like maybe if that, not every woman. So I guess

01:10:17.040 at some level that's true. It certainly has changed our evolutionary path because it has

01:10:21.960 changed incentive structures, right? Things that we're naturally selected for are no longer

01:10:26.640 naturally selected for because you're artificially limiting births and therefore you're also

01:10:32.060 limiting types of things that the population has. So that's probably true. So if you mean in the

01:10:38.460 sense of like just what's being selected for yeah i agree with you 100 if you mean like this has

01:10:43.380 changed how humans have to live i don't think that's true i think we can go back to a place

01:10:48.320 where we don't have to have this bizarre system of artificially harming women at every level i mean

01:10:54.020 the pill does terrible things to women's bodies i i didn't even know this but like one of you know

01:10:59.240 until a few years ago but one of the issues is that women don't get pregnant and that actually

01:11:03.940 causes a lot of physical issues because they don't have their body doesn't go through the

01:11:08.940 process it's supposed to go through and so you know they they add up all these extra complications

01:11:14.080 because they've been artificially limiting the number of pregnancy cycles that they'll go through

01:11:18.420 number of uh you know that that kind of thing that happens and so there's all kinds of additional

01:11:22.580 complications so there's all kind of things downstream from you know from the pill it's not

01:11:26.380 just you know it causes high blood pressure and blood clots all kinds of other stuff right

01:11:31.900 and sex drive, emotional changes, behavior. People have done studies that say women select entirely 0.95

01:11:37.900 different people when they're on birth control, when they're off birth control for sex. So yeah, 0.56

01:11:42.120 I mean, it obviously changes things at every level, but we can go back. I think that part is,

01:11:46.740 is true. All right, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up. I want to thank everybody for

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 08, 2026

America Is Built on Abortion ｜ 5⧸8⧸26

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