The Auron MacIntyre Show - Assassination Culture： How To Make It Stop ｜ Guest： J. Burden ｜ 4⧸27⧸26

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I've got a great stream with

00:00:04.000 a great guest that I think you're really going to enjoy. Another day, and it's another assassination

00:00:10.000 attempt on Trump's life. This one happened in Washington, D.C. at the White House Correspondents

00:00:17.180 Dinner. It was being held in a hotel ballroom, and we had another crazed leftist storm in.

00:00:25.040 luckily this time he did not make it past security to make it past secret service and was apprehended

00:00:31.980 but obviously this is part of a much larger pattern this is at least you know the fourth

00:00:38.640 time that Donald Trump has had an assassination attempt and each one seems to get less and less

00:00:44.640 interest less and less coverage from the mainstream media less and less outrage from

00:00:50.780 conservatives. And that's not a good sign because that means that assassination culture is now

00:00:56.600 becoming part of the United States. This is now something that we seem to assume is just going to

00:01:01.320 be part of our day to day, part and parcel of the American political system. But of course,

00:01:06.260 it doesn't have to be like that. And we're hoping to figure out how to make it stop.

00:01:10.360 Joining me today to discuss that is, of course, Jay Burden. Thank you so much for coming on, man.

00:01:15.040 Yeah, Oren. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity.

00:01:18.000 yeah so uh i can't say uh sadly that i'm surprised um obviously tensions have not gone down uh since

00:01:28.740 the multiple assassination attempts on donald trump or the sadly successful assassination of

00:01:35.360 charlie kirk uh the left has grown no less bloodthirsty and while the right has been very

00:01:41.660 distracted with you know should we go to war in iran what's happening with the straight of

00:01:47.160 Hormuz, all this foreign policy nonsense. We have not been taking care of the situation here

00:01:52.960 domestically. There has been no large movement to sweep up violent leftists. There has been no

00:01:58.780 pressure on leftist organizations until just recently. We'll talk about in a second. And we

00:02:04.460 just have not seemed to take the violence very seriously. We've gotten distracted with what

00:02:10.120 podcast host is yelling at who and what foreign countries we might need to be invading instead of

00:02:15.320 finishing the job that Donald Trump was brought on board to do, which is to clean up the United

00:02:21.320 States, take care of a left wing that is completely out of control. So we have another

00:02:27.280 shooter for those who do not know what happened there. They were holding the war at the White 0.88

00:02:34.280 House Correspondents Dinner, which is a yearly dinner that they do to, you know, kind of joke

00:02:38.800 around and have some kind of back and forth with the different people that cover the White House,

00:02:43.700 obviously mostly leftist journalists but a lot of the cabinet was there pete hegseth was there

00:02:48.800 the vice president was there all of the uh very important members of the administration were

00:02:54.060 present and we had a radical leftist break in a man who uh has a very interesting background again

00:03:01.320 we'll get into that in just a moment but he broke in and he was able to come in with apparently a

00:03:07.220 shotgun and a pistol it looks like he had disassembled the shotgun and reassembled it

00:03:12.860 He had a hotel room at the hotel where this event was being held, and he came in towards the ballroom where the president and the rest of the party, the rest of the administration, were sitting.

00:03:28.780 However, he was not able to enter the ballroom itself.

00:03:31.200 Outside of that, there was a security check with the Secret Service, and there's metal detectors and everything else there.

00:03:38.260 He was stopped short of being able to get through that security perimeter, though he was able to fire on a Secret Service agent.

00:03:46.080 Now, the reporting is that that agent luckily has caught the round in the vest and ultimately was able to recover, did not take serious damage.

00:03:55.820 And then the subject was apprehended.

00:03:58.540 But obviously, this is a huge disruption, a continued expansion of the leftist project of violence, something that clearly destabilizes our society and something that we should not be putting up with.

00:04:10.940 But ultimately, it seems that the left has learned very little or actually they don't care to learn anything because we're already getting both sides rhetoric.

00:04:19.180 There was a lot of Barack Obama coming out and saying we need to turn the temperature down across the board.

00:04:24.040 But of course, the problem isn't that we have a general assassination culture.

00:04:28.220 it's not like there's a bunch of people on the right who were trying to assassinate Joe Biden

00:04:32.200 or any other Democrat president. It's very clear that this is a one-sided issue, and yet we see

00:04:38.980 very little done to actually address it. So I guess, Jay, what's your first response with yet

00:04:46.140 another assassination attempt? Do you think that there's any chance the administration will

00:04:50.740 actually crack down and take this one more seriously? Unfortunately not. There was a great

00:04:58.900 social media post. I'm not exactly sure who put it out just after the assassination, quoting

00:05:05.320 Machiavelli, basically saying that this push towards build the ballroom is sort of misguided

00:05:11.640 because ultimately rulers do not gain their security from fortresses. They have to be feared

00:05:17.920 and loved. The joke is, of course, ladies and gentlemen, that was an R. McIntyre tweet, right?

00:05:22.860 A wise man once tweeted this out.

00:05:25.460 And there's timeless wisdom in that. Obviously, there is a fraction of America that truly does

00:05:32.320 love Donald Trump. I think that sadly, due to how divided and how incoherent American politics are,

00:05:39.620 it seems unlikely he will ever become a sort of Bukele-esque figure with 98 percentile.

00:05:45.420 but that's one side of it the other side is being feared right the the reasonable understanding

00:05:52.100 that if you swing at the king you will be punished for and undoubtedly right this man will go to jail

00:05:58.800 i mean it's dc so he might get out sooner than later but still you know he's been apprehended

00:06:03.760 uh donald trump did something incredibly amusing which is uh post a photo of him the assassin that

00:06:10.200 is naked on the ground, handcuffed 10 minutes afterwards, which I'll admit, despite my

00:06:16.440 differences with the president, I think is pretty funny. But we have this broader problem of what

00:06:23.120 the left warned us about, right? Stochastic terrorism. Donald Trump himself was impeached 0.93

00:06:28.160 for vaguely giving cover to the Jan 6 protests, right? That was sort of the stated reason for it.

00:06:36.240 We've heard think pieces, if you remember, you know, both the Christchurch shooting and

00:06:39.760 then other, you know, these kind of lone gunman attacks, right?

00:06:42.940 Oh, you conservatives, you know, you're trading in dangerous rhetoric and look what's happened.

00:06:47.880 But in this instance, and we do have a manifesto, I'm sure we'll get to, he's basically saying

00:06:53.680 the exact same things that you hear on social media, you hear from Democratic congressmen

00:06:58.480 over and over and over again, right?

00:07:00.660 Donald Trump is an existential threat. 0.83

00:07:03.280 And when you tell people this man is a threat to your existence, you are insinuating that

00:07:09.860 self-defense is necessary.

00:07:12.080 And we've seen this over and over and over again, right?

00:07:15.840 There have been, as you've said, four assassination attempts, of course, Butler, which was very 0.79

00:07:20.520 close to succeeding. 0.96

00:07:21.840 And you look at it and you say, okay, like, well, you are the man in charge.

00:07:26.520 We're in charge of the most powerful country in the world.

00:07:28.800 for your own benefit if no one else smash these people go after them thankfully we did see uh

00:07:37.380 the the 12 antifa members who conducted a an ambush at an ice facility in texas they have

00:07:43.520 been sentenced but other than that we've now been under 10 years of left-wing violence not

00:07:50.460 all assassinations much of it kind of low level but this continues this has not been checked

00:07:56.800 and one of the core functions of government is the monopoly on violence, the ability to be the

00:08:03.640 only ones who can bring force to bear in a situation. And we understand in any society,

00:08:08.900 no matter how perfect, it's never absolute, right? There are always thugs. There are always

00:08:13.360 toughs. Terrorists can exist almost anywhere. But the level of extreme political violence that we

00:08:19.280 have seen, one, it seems to be accelerating. And two, it's somewhat baffling to me how we live in

00:08:25.600 a panopticon. We live under a surveillance state where you can be debanked for having the wrong

00:08:32.740 opinions. You can be tracked on your phone almost anywhere. There's new automotive legislation,

00:08:40.160 which means that I believe after 2030, cars will have AI-powered facial recognition to determine

00:08:45.840 if you've been hitting the bottle before you get in the car. We can do all that. That is seemingly

00:08:51.640 something that is within our power, but stopping attempts on the life of the most powerful man in

00:08:56.820 the world is outside the ability of this massive intelligence apparatus. It's incredibly gallant

00:09:02.840 to be perfectly honest. And the consequences in this case, all right, it was not a particularly

00:09:08.220 serious attempt. He was stopped well before he got to the president. It's not like he had a bomb in

00:09:13.860 his jacket or whatever, but still we have to understand that this speaks to one, a very lax

00:09:21.160 level of security at this particular event, and also a massive failure on behalf of our

00:09:27.980 intelligence community, right? The people who are supposed to be, I don't know, using all of

00:09:33.000 these massive surveillance systems to stop terrorism, to stop dangerous men from doing

00:09:39.660 dangerous things. And so, look, I understand the inclination to pivot towards building the ballroom.

00:09:45.980 I understand. But ultimately, it's sort of missing the forest for the trees.

00:09:51.440 The vagaries of exactly where we host the White House Correspondents' Dinner is relatively speaking

00:09:55.700 unimportant. The real issue is we have a country where the political left is empowered to commit

00:10:01.720 violence. This is something that happens routinely. As you said earlier, it has gone from being an

00:10:07.040 exceptional event to, to be honest, kind of a minor news story. Sure, it's still in the headlines,

00:10:12.160 but almost by Sunday morning, there were other things to talk about. It has happened so many

00:10:17.480 times that it is commonplace from a certain perspective. And again, if Joe Biden were in

00:10:23.560 office, if it was the woke Democrat left in charge of every lever of power, well, at least then you

00:10:28.460 could say, well, that's why it can't be done. But in a case where supposedly the nominal right in

00:10:33.120 America holds all the cards, they're in charge of every institution, surely this would be the 0.58

00:10:38.480 best possible experiment, right? Can you get something done? You have all of the cards stacked

00:10:43.980 in your hands. And sadly, as you mentioned, after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, after the

00:10:49.180 attempted assassination of Trump, after a wave of leftist violence around the election, seemingly

00:10:54.520 nothing has changed. Yeah, there's so much there that I don't even know where to begin. So I guess

00:11:01.620 first uh as you say we'll we'll talk a little bit about how this happened in the first place

00:11:07.860 um it seems crazy as you're pointing out here uh that the u.s intelligence services have not

00:11:17.280 taken threats to trump's life seriously and by that i mean we know uh now because of something

00:11:26.680 good the Trump administration did that the SPLC has been funding like white nationalism and a

00:11:33.800 bunch of KKK and a bunch of Aryan Brotherhood and stuff like that specifically so they could

00:11:38.580 prop up threats that they needed to fight and fundraise off but also specifically so they could 0.97

00:11:44.420 use them to then smear other people right like the KKK itself is I guess a somewhat useful

00:11:50.580 boogeyman but its real value is being able to put like Chris Ruffo next to it or some you know

00:11:56.640 to put, to, to put these different, um, activists or conservative personalities or politicians

00:12:02.900 and connect them and smear them saying, oh, well, these people are somehow, you know,

00:12:07.380 sympathetic or connected or interested.

00:12:09.540 That's really what the KKK exists to do at this point.

00:12:12.640 Like it's not a real entity in any, in any, uh, serious sense.

00:12:16.780 Uh, but it's political value is not even in its operation so much that it's continued

00:12:21.520 existence allows others to be tied to it.

00:12:23.840 And because of that, like, we know that the federal government has spent a lot of time investigating and infiltrating and possibly funding these organizations.

00:12:33.320 Like, there's a large degree of constant surveillance to the point where one of the, you know, first jokes you get in any right wing gathering or group chat or anything is, who's the Fed, right?

00:12:44.520 Who's the FBI informant?

00:12:46.600 who's the guy who's infiltrated this because it's so ubiquitous uh that we just kind of assume that

00:12:52.800 somewhere some you know nefarious actor is keeping tabs on what's going on in pretty much every right

00:12:59.020 wing gathering and yet despite the fact that like this we have this capacity none of it has been

00:13:05.580 turned on the left we don't have some wide infiltration of you know the antifa we don't

00:13:11.700 have a bunch of uh different fbi agents you know working their way in undercover to to figure out

00:13:17.620 these cells we seem to have almost nothing happening when it comes to trying to figure out

00:13:23.080 who these people are and how they're planning these assassinations how they're funding them

00:13:27.080 how they they're encouraging them now you can just say that every one of these guys is a lone wolf

00:13:31.120 but you know that's what they you know that that's what every organization says when one of their

00:13:35.500 members goes out and does something like this these people have funding they have connections

00:13:39.960 even if they're not getting a direct paycheck they are in an ecosystem that encourages this

00:13:45.620 discord servers groups this guy was part of um a group called the wide awakes uh which is trying

00:13:52.300 to mimic uh like some kind of civil rights uh you know uh paramilitary uh you know a group and so uh

00:14:00.000 you know they have this uh mentality that they are underground militias even if they don't designate

00:14:07.420 themselves as such but sometimes they do and yet for some reason we don't have fbi agents infiltrating

00:14:12.420 these people we don't have dhs targeting these people and this is very confusing but on top of

00:14:18.540 this of course we look at the secret service protection um the the you know perimeter was

00:14:24.580 terrible uh obviously very you know thankfully the guy was not able to get uh near the president

00:14:30.360 and to take any serious shot at him but the fact that there was zero interest in you know paying

00:14:36.240 attention to who was a guest at the hotel what kind of luggage they're bringing in the guy was

00:14:39.720 able to bring in weapons disassemble them reassemble them inside uh you know the venue

00:14:45.040 like this uh obviously uh if you look at the pictures from this event we saw a number of 0.99

00:14:51.440 uh let's just say uh female agents who don't seem that they might be extremely capable in a

00:14:57.940 stressful situation which again looked a lot like butler uh many people were asking questions about

00:15:02.600 how we could have that level of kind of failure with the secret service uh but we see it kind of

00:15:07.300 again here um and you know all those questions uh still as as perplexing as they are as you say

00:15:14.080 they don't fit the fix the problem because even if you do increase your uh level of security even if

00:15:20.460 you are locking things down building a ballroom turning things into a fortress that's kind of

00:15:25.240 why i talked about the machiavelli quote because the fortress is an illusion of security uh the

00:15:30.560 the leader will always be vulnerable to attacks from his own people and that's why you can never

00:15:37.640 really like a fortress might give you some utility against outside enemies but ultimately you're never

00:15:42.080 really safe as long as your own population is willing to do violence against you which is why

00:15:47.260 again Machiavelli encourages you to be both feared and loved but most importantly feared there has to

00:15:52.860 be some consequence for this kind of action there has to be some kind of severe step taken to show

00:16:00.020 people why you never do this again. And we have just not seen this. Now, it's not lost on me

00:16:06.660 that just a few days after the Trump administration finally starts to crack down

00:16:11.680 on leftist organizations like the SPLC, which are very obviously working to coordinate violence

00:16:17.740 against conservatives, we then see this attack. I don't know if it's motivated. I don't know if

00:16:22.480 it's connected in any way but it is kind of amazing how long you had to wait for the

00:16:29.980 administration to actually take some level of action and then just a few days after they do

00:16:34.200 we see this attack again so while again we were busy arguing over Israel and Iran and Tucker

00:16:41.160 Carlson and Mark Levin the left didn't go away they didn't get less violent in fact they got

00:16:46.760 more violent and they've been enabled by the fact that we just haven't taken any serious action we

00:16:52.420 have not applied any real pressure to these organizations we are not using the power available

00:16:58.500 to us to actually do anything about this which means either the people in charge are not fit

00:17:05.920 for duty or they don't have the power that they need and we need to figure that out we need to

00:17:11.740 know which one it is because this continued state of the left having this monopoly on violence is

00:17:18.380 absolutely insane i was on the charlie kirk show today and you know the guys there were very rightly

00:17:25.840 saying you know why how is the left ever going to take any ownership this is the left going to take

00:17:30.540 any responsibility and i explained no they're never going to do that because they want this

00:17:35.320 ability to do violence you know it's not just 10 years old the left has had a monopoly on political

00:17:41.420 violence in the united states for decades from the race riots of the 60s to the widespread terror

00:17:46.860 bombings of the 70s to the race riots of the 80s to the race riots of the 90s to the race riots of

00:17:53.280 the 2000s like there is a constant use of violence from exactly one side of the political spectrum

00:18:00.700 and they never expect to get in trouble because they almost never do they never expect any kind

00:18:05.360 of institutional cost to roll down because none ever comes so why would the left ever abandon

00:18:10.960 this monopoly on political

00:18:13.300 violence. It's the most powerful

00:18:15.240 tool you have. Violence is

00:18:17.340 the most powerful tool

00:18:19.000 at the end of the day. It is the ultimate

00:18:21.300 authority from which all other authority

00:18:23.180 derives. And if the left has

00:18:25.260 the only people who have access

00:18:27.180 to it, they might make some

00:18:29.380 noises about turning down the temperature,

00:18:31.280 but obviously they have no intention of ever

00:18:33.320 handing this weapon over to their enemy.

00:18:36.500 Well, 100%.

00:18:37.560 And it's because they understand how

00:18:39.480 power works.

00:18:41.920 Recently, I've been sort of disgusted with the Republican Party in my own state. It's not exactly

00:18:48.960 hard to figure out why, but it comes back to this understanding of, well, what is a win,

00:18:54.960 right? Is a win a chance for you to beat your chest and big yourself up and talk about how cool

00:19:01.680 you are? Or is a win an opportunity to invest back into the business, right? To take that

00:19:07.120 power profit that you've gotten and use it to generate more power. And fundamentally, what we

00:19:13.020 understand about political assassination is that's a really convenient tool to have.

00:19:18.920 As you saw, regrettably, with the death of Charlie Kirk, that worked. They got a lot out of that.

00:19:24.640 They had an enemy removed off the board. They got to screech and moan about the half dozen public

00:19:30.280 school teachers who got fired, got to rally their troops, and other than that, suffered no

00:19:34.620 consequences. So if you accept that sort of dichotomy of a win we mentioned earlier,

00:19:40.480 the power exists to get you more power, why would you give up a tool that works and has worked for

00:19:48.160 generations? The other side, that would be the Republicans, clearly they can't make you stop

00:19:54.700 doing it. So why would you? You're not interested in a fair contest. You're not interested in

00:20:00.800 the game as described by the constitution or by your high school civics class,

00:20:05.140 they're playing to win. So why would you give up one of your most historically useful strategies?

00:20:12.480 Well, we can't unless we take it off the board. We basically say, if you use that again,

00:20:22.020 you're done. You're getting charged. This is a terrorist investigation. The kind of things that

00:20:28.840 apparently we have the power in law already to go after, to do. But until they're made to stop,

00:20:36.420 they won't. And why would they? Because it works. And I think that when we look at power,

00:20:42.420 we have to understand that the idea that we are looking to return to kind of a fair game,

00:20:48.600 that we're looking to turn down the temperature, all of these things are completely and totally,

00:20:55.720 they're just aphorisms. They don't actually mean anything. And until either these networks or the

00:21:00.640 people profiting from them are met with an equivalent force, are met with consequences

00:21:05.640 for violent actions, they will never stop. And if you doubt what I'm saying is true,

00:21:12.820 simply look at every one of these instances. Who actually bears the consequence? Well,

00:21:18.820 kind of in some small way, the guy who did it, right? He's going to go to jail. You saw the

00:21:25.220 previous Trump assassinations either killed or thrown in jail forever. And the narrative that

00:21:34.820 drove them to it, the people who gave them either implicit or explicit support, they're still

00:21:40.740 running free. They get the best of both worlds. They don't have to bear any responsibility and

00:21:47.380 they get to use their favorite tool. And so to be honest, the temperature will not go down

00:21:53.340 until you make it go down like many things there's an element of political will and if you lack that

00:21:59.400 will it goes on forever yeah it's very obvious as you say that the left will need some kind of

00:22:08.800 very serious adjustment to incentives in order to change their behavior because the entire system

00:22:15.320 is rigged in their favor and it works very well for them and very reliably for them so there's

00:22:21.100 simply no reason to stop and we can see that they're in fact only kind of escalating this

00:22:27.880 rhetoric i mean you can play the clips from hassan piker and destiny and all these you know guys who

00:22:34.580 are out there uh talking about how we need to murder conservatives or you know leave the

00:22:38.940 capitalists bleeding in the streets and all this stuff but the really concerning thing is in this

00:22:44.360 instance this guy cole allen uh was by all accounts a relatively well-adjusted person

00:22:52.100 as leftists come uh you know he was a graduate with of a very prestigious uh computer science

00:23:00.120 program he was tutoring he was named teacher of the year for the company he was working for at

00:23:06.020 one point or teacher of the month um you know obviously this guy had a manifesto he was becoming

00:23:12.780 you know deranged when it came to trump uh but you know ultimately we're not talking about like

00:23:17.640 some trans guy who is broke and you know living in his parents basement and you know we're talking

00:23:23.860 about kind of your average leftist somebody who's watching msnbc reading reddit you know going on

00:23:30.480 blue sky and being angry at trump and a lot of the you know rhetoric he was using in his manifesto 0.82

00:23:37.960 talk about trump being a you know pedophile a murderer and all this stuff is just the kind of

00:23:42.320 stuff that you hear on blue sky all day long that you hear from msnbc all day long uh and so 0.95

00:23:49.400 it's very clear that if the left is activating just kind of average people at this point

00:23:55.660 we've gotten beyond the well maybe some completely insane lone you know transition gunman will will

00:24:03.240 will hear the the dog whistle and pick up and take action we're now at the point where like just

00:24:08.120 random teachers are going to do this and i'm sorry but it turns out that like leftists are

00:24:14.540 more dangerous than like whatever's going on in iran right now like actually this is more important

00:24:19.960 to the domestic tranquility to to the health of my nation than the middle east and yet we're seeing

00:24:26.500 very little effort brought to bear against these people and again i'll have people say things like

00:24:34.160 well don't you have to worry about freedom of speech don't you have to worry about all these

00:24:37.420 principles don't you have to worry about you know them doing it back to us all this stuff

00:24:42.280 and first obviously like what are we talking about at this point like we know the left has

00:24:47.840 done all of this stuff to us with or without any law with or without any apparatus the reason the

00:24:53.480 left doesn't worry about handing those tools back over like this is always the argument for

00:24:58.600 conservatives that there's going to be this counterbalance there's going to be this swing

00:25:02.120 back there's going to be this pendulum and so you have to be very careful about investing the

00:25:06.200 government with power, because if you build a Death Star, then at some point you'll lose an

00:25:10.400 election. You have to hand the Death Star over to their enemy. But as you, Mr. Burden, and all of

00:25:15.420 our listeners who are familiar with elite theory know, actually, you never have to hand the Death

00:25:20.420 Star over to your opponents, because when the Republicans are in power, they simply do not have

00:25:25.080 access to the same tools that Democrats have. Now, maybe it's because they're weak. Maybe it's a lack

00:25:30.300 a political will. Or maybe, and this is what I was kind of pointing out today on Twitter,

00:25:36.180 the idea is that you have a monopoly on violence. That's like the defining feature of the state.

00:25:42.300 When the left is in power, they have a monopoly on violence. When the right is in power,

00:25:47.840 theoretically, of the formal government, they do not have a monopoly on violence. Like the left

00:25:52.900 uses violence and suffers no consequence for it. And so the question becomes, if the state is that

00:26:00.820 which has a monopoly on violence and Republicans don't have a monopoly on violence when they're

00:26:05.600 in control of the formal state, perhaps the state is not the actual state. Maybe the actual power

00:26:12.260 center in the United States is the leftist progressive machine. Perhaps that's the actual

00:26:18.780 state with the real monopoly on violence inside the u.s and the formal government is simply

00:26:24.820 trappings it's simply a shell anybody familiar with the cathedral knows exactly what we're

00:26:29.800 talking about here but we're just recreating this again from first principles from observable

00:26:34.460 reality you know you had parlor right which was this right-wing social media app where a lot of

00:26:41.520 right-wingers fled when it was you know there was a lot of censorship everywhere else and that's

00:26:47.140 where a number of people communicated during January 6th.

00:26:50.660 And so all of the social media companies,

00:26:52.880 all of the tech platforms immediately said,

00:26:54.920 oh, well, that means Parler is responsible

00:26:56.920 for J6 happening.

00:26:58.660 And that platform was completely destroyed.

00:27:02.400 Like, there was no law passed.

00:27:04.400 Nobody filed any charges against Parler.

00:27:08.180 It was just destroyed immediately by soft power.

00:27:12.240 And so we see the incredible difference.

00:27:14.180 Blue Sky is a place that is wildly violent.

00:27:17.140 way more dangerous than anything that ever happened on parlor but nobody is seriously

00:27:21.780 believing that tech platforms are going to triangulate to take blue sky down that they're

00:27:26.480 going to immediately fold this social media organization and so this is how we see the left

00:27:31.620 exercise power in these moments and why the right doesn't seem to have this even when they've won

00:27:36.480 elections because ultimately so much of what gets done to punish conservatives from debanking to

00:27:43.500 you know uh you know de-platforming all this stuff it often occurs automatically through

00:27:49.800 soft power networks which the trump administration doesn't magically gain access to because it's now

00:27:54.740 in the government but it should at the very least be using the power that it does have

00:27:59.120 and we seem to see very little of that going on and that's the the frustrating thing about this

00:28:06.500 is this kind of power analysis that you and I are offering. I mean, look, man,

00:28:16.480 Machiavelli is a book you can get in any public library ever. It's been around for a while and

00:28:22.320 it's well and truly in the public domain. And you look at it and you're like, okay, well,

00:28:26.320 you understand these principles that govern how men operate, the functional rules of the

00:28:33.140 political process. And you look at observable reality and you're like, all right, this seems

00:28:38.480 to track. And you look at an instance like an assassination, attempted assassination of Trump.

00:28:44.340 And I could kind of get the naivete if this was the first time in a generation we'd had an

00:28:52.000 attempted political assassination, because then fair enough. But at this point, it's like, well,

00:28:56.160 how many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man? How many times do we have to go through

00:29:00.580 this before something changes because clearly whatever is being done now is not enough it is

00:29:06.000 not bringing these attempted assassinations to an end so seemingly if the political temperature

00:29:13.920 quote-unquote is ramping up is as you said the pressure has started to reach not merely the kind 0.92

00:29:20.080 of anti-social mentally unwell losers but teachers and i realize mentally unwell losers and teachers 0.79

00:29:27.060 that's a that's basically a circle on the venn diagram but you know humor me for the sake of 0.98

00:29:30.960 discussion but when it has started to reach them ostensibly normal people it's like well

00:29:37.480 is there anything else that can happen but that this trend continues there's seemingly nothing

00:29:44.660 being done to arrest it if anything it is accelerating and what we have to understand

00:29:49.500 of course is that as of now political violence has been relatively constrained to certain urban

00:29:56.960 areas and to prominent right-wing figures. But if you look at this rhetoric, you mentioned Hassan

00:30:02.820 Piker and others, the rhetoric is nowhere near that constraint. The rhetoric is not simply these

00:30:08.840 sort of hate figures. It is the capitalists, the kulaks, the conservatives, people like you and I.

00:30:16.760 And I think like many people, what was very disturbing about the assassination of Charlie

00:30:20.680 Kirk is you realize like, wait, him? He was the one? Didn't seem to be all that radical? Sure,

00:30:26.560 he had a massive platform. But I think many people realize that the desire for violence was

00:30:32.660 much, much more widely spread than we had anticipated. And so going into a situation

00:30:38.500 where it looks as if, and you can look at the polling averages, there will be a swing back to

00:30:44.680 the left in American government. The whole time Trump has been in office, the pressure has

00:30:49.140 continued to ramp up. More people feel as if they need to engage in political violence.

00:30:54.800 and the scope of that acceptable targets for violence has grown, you start to look around

00:31:00.140 and you're like, wait a minute, what does that mean for me? What does that mean for my community?

00:31:06.520 And when we talk about America being a first world nation, obviously a large part of that

00:31:12.880 has to do with infrastructure and the average wealth and all that. But another thing that

00:31:16.580 separates the first world, the nice parts of the world from everywhere else, is that feeling of

00:31:21.920 generally being safe. You can go most places without having to worry about being robbed or

00:31:27.600 beaten or shot. And thanks to some Soros DAs, maybe that's changed a little bit.

00:31:32.720 But widespread political violence is not something that happens in healthy,

00:31:36.680 functional societies. That is a sign of decay. It is a sign of a system in crisis.

00:31:42.340 And so if there is something to be avoided, widespread political violence is pretty close

00:31:48.780 to the top of that list, right? If you had to choose things not to have happen in your country.

00:31:54.120 And so to me, that's the other thing that I find very disturbing about this is

00:31:57.520 if I were playing a map game, right? Some of those kind of simulators of running a country or an

00:32:04.020 empire and your leader was under constant threat, that's a big problem. Similarly, if you have,

00:32:10.560 again, widespread violence, paramilitary groups, this is not good. This produces very,

00:32:17.040 very real downsides for the kind of boring parts of American life, right? The people who have

00:32:23.100 businesses, the people who simply go about American cities, all of a sudden have to factor

00:32:27.500 paramilitary groups. There's a piece from Wired not too long ago, came out talking about these

00:32:35.140 sort of leftist groups framed through a kind of has-been gun YouTuber, Carl Quesada, who is an

00:32:43.440 insane leftist, right? Works with the John Brown Gun Club, 2A for All, which is this idea that

00:32:48.560 predominantly trans people need to arm themselves. And there are several notable things about that 0.95

00:32:54.340 article. One, all these people are massive nerds, but also they view themselves as being at war with

00:33:01.020 the system, right? Whatever that is, that the fascists in charge of the machine, but also

00:33:06.840 normal everyday Americans. These people have been told that there is a trans genocide.

00:33:13.440 that there is a deliberate attempt to exterminate people like them. And that while sure, you know, 0.90

00:33:18.660 ICE or CBP, you know, any one of those organizations, they may be the tip of the spear.

00:33:23.620 The real problem is fascist America, by which they mean basically normal people.

00:33:30.860 And so if that is the rhetoric, right, that we are the problem, if figures as relatively moderate

00:33:36.580 it as Charlie Kirk or marked for assassination, if the government is unable to halt this,

00:33:43.480 even when it comes to the most powerful man in the world, seemingly we are at danger.

00:33:52.060 You and I aren't in particular, maybe because we're loudmouths on the internet, but normal

00:33:55.760 people will likely bear the consequences of this because political violence has been shown

00:34:00.960 to be functionally legitimate, functionally something you can get away with. It's functionally

00:34:06.720 something that increases the power of the woke left. And they seem to be drunk on it. They seem

00:34:13.260 to love it. It's fun for them. And one of the minor news stories that came out of this was the

00:34:18.420 number of both elected officials, a democratic state rep from Virginia, multiple figures from

00:34:26.020 Wisconsin that were basically kind of slapping their knees. All shucks he missed this time.

00:34:32.240 A brewery in Milwaukee, I believe, put out a promotion, you know, free of beers for everyone

00:34:36.840 when Trump dies. And okay, you know, that would be tasteless if it was just on any random Tuesday.

00:34:42.760 But after a failed assassination, what does that mean? We all know what that means. That all means

00:34:49.060 that there will be widespread celebration upon the successful assassination of Trump or by

00:34:57.700 extension, just general right-wing Americans. It's, again, a very, very serious issue that

00:35:06.760 needs to be halted, needs to be arrested, if not only for the sake of kind of American politics,

00:35:12.740 the stuff that happens in DC, but also for just normal everyday conservative Americans.

00:35:19.060 it is insane that the left has very clearly declared war on the average american and

00:35:29.340 conservatives just refuse to acknowledge this right like it's very obvious that for decades

00:35:36.000 they've referred to anything that is even moderately normal that allows society to function

00:35:42.140 as something that is fascist they've called the church fascist they've called the family fascist

00:35:47.700 They call everything about our history fascist.

00:35:50.880 And it all has to go.

00:35:51.880 Remember, communism is at eternal war with these things. 1.00

00:35:55.580 And these people are gay race communists, make no bones about that. 0.99

00:35:59.940 And so, like, ultimately, they are at war with American society. 0.98

00:36:04.100 That is the purpose of their movement.

00:36:06.380 The left is a force of social entropy.

00:36:09.320 It exists to break down the bonds that hold society together.

00:36:13.820 That's how it generates its energy, how it generates its support.

00:36:17.700 It has to attack every aspect of our society.

00:36:21.460 It has to break down the basis of our society.

00:36:23.940 And so the left knows it's at war.

00:36:25.380 It knows it's at war with America.

00:36:26.860 It knows it's at war with Americans.

00:36:29.180 And so they're sending assassins every few months.

00:36:32.960 And the conservatives are still wringing their hands about the filibuster.

00:36:37.660 Oh, what if we break the filibuster?

00:36:40.360 And this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

00:36:41.820 Like maybe you won't be able to immediately go out and arrest every one of these leftists who's on a discord planning violence or in one of these organizations like the White Awakes.

00:36:51.900 But what you can do is pass legislation that's going to secure you power in the future, like the SAVE Act, which is going to radically change the democratic process in America, which you really need after places like Virginia dropped the ball and allowed the Democrats to gerrymander, redistrict, and basically delete several seats from the conservatives, from the Republicans.

00:37:16.340 you have to do things like this to secure any hope of being able to fight in the future

00:37:22.800 and the republicans are saying oh well what if we get rid of the filibuster and then the democrats

00:37:26.940 use it while they're literally sending people to kill you literally sending people to murder you

00:37:32.840 you're complaining about the possibility of breaking the norm of some procedural rule that

00:37:39.180 is not even in the constitution like it's to say that the conservatives the republicans are not

00:37:45.140 taking this seriously would be the understatement of the year. And Jay, I'm really worried at this

00:37:51.000 point. I've been worried about this for a while. I started being worried about this during COVID,

00:37:55.520 but it's only gotten worse. I think that conservatives are failing the greatest of

00:38:01.140 all tests, that of self-preservation, the will to survive. I don't think the American right has,

00:38:08.220 it's not just that they don't have the will to win. It's that they don't have the will to fight

00:38:12.180 for their lives or the lives of their children. It seems like there's just literally nothing that

00:38:17.220 can be done. They can literally shoot Charlie Kirk. They can shoot Donald Trump. And there's

00:38:23.060 just nothing that will ever make a conservative take politics seriously. I don't care if you

00:38:30.660 watch Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. I don't care if you think that the Lincoln-Douglas debates were

00:38:36.280 the most important thing in the world. I don't care if you think that you should be able to

00:38:42.680 persuade your fellow man to follow things through reason and logic. They're shooting at you. So get

00:38:49.180 over it. Like, what do you think is going to happen? Do you think you're going to talk them

00:38:53.920 down? You're going to shame them into stop, what, winning? Like, you think that they're going to

00:38:59.000 keep calling you fascists who are trying to murder them and wipe them out? And then they're just 0.97

00:39:03.840 going to what let you run the country like how stupid do you have to be how impotent do you have 0.99

00:39:11.860 to be i'm sorry but i i can't this is incredibly dangerous like i i've made this point many times 1.00

00:39:19.840 over if you allow consistent political violence then things continue to escalate and if they

00:39:27.160 continue to escalate the response to stop them has to be more severe in the spanish civil war

00:39:33.060 you have all of these right-wing assassinations all these bombings all these killing of public

00:39:37.900 officials and they the left feels so empowered and so capable of doing this on a regular basis

00:39:43.900 but the only answer has to be somebody like francisco franco and i want to let people know

00:39:50.220 who are worried about authoritarianism or worried about franco that that's the good ending that's

00:39:56.560 the one where the right actually stops the communists from murdering that's the one where

00:40:00.060 they have the will to live to survive Franco is the good ending where you don't die there's a

00:40:08.620 worse ending there's an ending where Franco never comes and they just keep killing you

00:40:14.160 they just keep killing you and you don't do anything and I fear that is the track we are on

00:40:21.040 right now because I don't see as much as all the whinging from about the woke right and the dangers

00:40:27.260 of power i don't see anyone on the right really taking any serious action to stop this we're now

00:40:36.640 to the point where conservatives have just baked this into the cake this is what politics looks

00:40:41.660 like in america now after butler there was at least a shock there's some kind of shock to the

00:40:46.220 system same with charlie kirk but now we're to the point where it's just another day another day

00:40:52.500 where another guy fires bullets at the president

00:40:54.520 and we all shrug and move on.

00:40:56.500 Like we discovered that there might be a slight rise

00:40:59.560 in the base rate for interest.

00:41:02.920 That's the level of care that people seem to have over this.

00:41:07.420 There's no call for justice.

00:41:10.080 There's no impending constant pressure felt

00:41:16.480 for something to happen,

00:41:18.940 for some kind of real justice to take place.

00:41:21.360 there's no calls for like the president to swoop in and and fix it nothing like it's just well you

00:41:27.700 guys should really fund dhs you should really build the ballroom uh no how about you should

00:41:34.560 all go to jail for the rest of your lives how about we should be rolling these people up swinging

00:41:39.800 through windows kicking down doors putting people in handcuffs perp walking them constantly until

00:41:47.020 every leftist is terrified to go on discord and type in the idea that they might do violence one

00:41:54.040 day because if they do an fbi agent is going to show up their door the next day and ensure that

00:41:59.380 they spend 10 years in jail like it's actually really easy to stop this stuff it's not hard at

00:42:04.940 all you just have to have the will and you just have to have the power but i don't know i don't

00:42:10.500 know i don't know if it is simply that the gas pedal is not connected to the engine and that

00:42:16.120 no matter how hard the Trump administration slams on the accelerator, they simply cannot

00:42:20.000 operate the car. Or I don't know if they just can't be bothered. They're too lazy. They're

00:42:24.100 too scared. I don't know which one it is. What I know is something has to change because if it

00:42:29.480 doesn't, again, the good ending is Franco. The bad ending is much, much, much worse.

00:42:36.720 Well, and to that point, I think that when we get into these conversations about

00:42:43.900 authoritarianism. We have to understand, well, when it's being brought up, what does it mean?

00:42:52.280 Because there are a number of glib conservatives that love whenever the progressives are talking

00:42:58.440 about fascism to say, oh, what do you mean by that? Have you read your Ginovani Gentile? Have

00:43:04.320 you read the origins of fascist thought in Italy? And I get it, right? As someone who has read the

00:43:12.360 early fascist writers, it's like clearly there's literally no connection between Donald Trump and

00:43:19.200 actual Italian fascism. It's not the same thing at all. But functionally, what that means is

00:43:25.460 you are an enemy and you've been marked out for violence. The idea of punching a Nazi, 0.97

00:43:31.600 punching a fascist is very deeply invested in American culture. And when the left talks about 0.97

00:43:37.440 authoritarianism, what do they mean? What they basically mean is, you were my enemy. They don't

00:43:43.380 actually mean any specific claim about the Constitution or the correct extent of executive

00:43:49.820 power. It's clearly and totally irrelevant. They don't care. It's entirely friend-enemy, right?

00:43:56.200 My team good, your team bad. And so, on the other end, seemingly, conservatives fall for

00:44:04.760 this claim. They fall for progressives saying, oh, you don't want to be authoritarian. You don't

00:44:11.620 want to break the rules. Because I think very genuinely conservatives are worried about those

00:44:16.900 things. They are worried about the excesses of power. And that is to a certain degree commendable.

00:44:22.680 I would love to live in a society where everyone was conservative in that way.

00:44:27.160 But the problem is, when you are in a dual-party system, and one party claims to be concerned with power only when they are losing, and then when they rule, they govern like Mao, and the other side is consistently concerned about the growth of power, well, who wins as you iterate that game going forward?

00:44:53.820 It's not hard to figure out who wins.

00:44:56.280 And you know what?

00:44:57.200 If the decision, the scope of politics is limited, so it's just minor tax increases 0.96

00:45:01.660 or whatever, okay, that sucks.

00:45:03.660 You kind of live in a one-party state effectively, but things don't really change.

00:45:08.780 But when you are in a system where the consequences for losing are your way of life ceases to

00:45:14.240 exist, if the consequences for losing are political reprisal, either legal or extrajudicial,

00:45:20.440 both of which we have seen over the last 10 years. That attitude, however seemingly noble,

00:45:26.340 is incredibly foolish. And expressing it as you did, Auron, which is, do you have the will to 0.99

00:45:31.100 keep existing? Do you have the will to stand up in the bathtub and stop drowning? That's sort of

00:45:36.220 the situation we're in because this is not an insurmountable issue. We live in a system that

00:45:43.540 has lots and lots of guys with guns to go kick down doors. We can kick down the door of an 80

00:45:49.680 some year old abortion protester. We can send her to jail. We can troll through digital records to 1.00

00:45:56.200 find out everyone who is at January 6th, you know, who, who stood by a door that was open from the

00:46:01.380 inside. We can get them. These guys, we can't because we're concerned about excessive use of

00:46:09.380 state power. Clearly not. I'm old enough to remember, I don't know, four years ago when we

00:46:16.480 were not concerned about that. I'm old enough to remember, I don't know, four years ago when we

00:46:21.760 could shut society down, when we could go after, you know, apparently people receiving money from

00:46:27.800 the SPLC as the greatest threat to American democracy, right? You know, white nationalism, 0.52

00:46:34.060 scare words like that. And so to me, this can't be an issue of inability. The system exists to

00:46:41.960 do such things. And the pretense of being concerned with limiting state power is laughable,

00:46:48.440 clearly laughable, because that is a strategy deliberately designed for you to lose forever. 0.94

00:46:54.980 When we talk about beautiful losers, when we talk about people who are more

00:46:59.000 kind of enamored with the idea of having played the game nobly than they are to lose,

00:47:04.060 this is exactly what we're talking about over and over and over again.

00:47:07.540 And not to go back to the Virginia redistricting, just because I'm a little butthurt about it, but to go back to the Virginia redistricting because I'm a little butthurt about it, this is another instantiation where redistricting has entered the field of play.

00:47:22.040 It is part of politics now. And if you give that up as Republicans in Indiana did, because you

00:47:28.640 didn't want to be mean, you didn't want to be nasty, because Trump said a mean thing about 1.00

00:47:35.200 the differently abled one time, you are a loser. You are fundamentally someone who is not serious 1.00

00:47:42.520 about this, and you will bear the consequences on that, on both a national and a state level.

00:47:47.220 And politics, unfortunately, has become existential. It is no longer merely something

00:47:54.020 that you argue with your family about over the holidays. It's not simply something you hear on

00:47:58.620 the radio. It affects people's lives. Directly, apparently, if you're a right of center American

00:48:04.140 political figure, you might be dodging bullets. But as someone who lives in a newly blue state,

00:48:10.040 I understand that politics matters, right? It can affect you. And so to see that same attitude,

00:48:16.220 that same indifference towards power, that same unwillingness to play the game for keeps,

00:48:22.380 it's honestly kind of disgusting. Because if we look at why Trump and Republicans like him

00:48:28.700 surged in popularity, it was because many people felt as if they were unrepresented by leaders who

00:48:35.100 didn't actually care, who weren't actually willing to bear any consequence for saying something that

00:48:39.860 unpopular but untrue unwilling to actually give their voters anything and so i think that some of

00:48:47.060 us myself included were really optimistic about this new generation people who were willing to

00:48:52.980 be called racist didn't care were willing to you know bend and break the rules or to you know at

00:48:59.380 least meet fire with fire but ron desantis is a great example someone who's continued to do that

00:49:04.820 and maybe naively assumed that this was a new development, that this was a change in the

00:49:11.100 character of the GOP. And unfortunately, what we've seen is that that old streak, that old

00:49:16.660 desire to be eternal losers, that old desire to whine about how if everyone had been forced to

00:49:23.280 play the rules, I would have won time and time again is skin deep with these people. They are 0.84

00:49:28.400 addicted to losing. They can't stop. Even when the game being played has their life as the prize,

00:49:36.580 right? That is the stakes. It is not merely you lose your cushy job in Washington and your,

00:49:41.460 you know, immaculately curated collection of DC rent boys. It's like, no, you are going to die.

00:49:47.740 And I don't say that out of any sense of glee. I'm not happy that that is the situation that

00:49:52.600 America finds itself in, but it is. And either to be blunt about it, either the attitude of

00:50:02.100 the eternal loser dies or our politicians do. That seems to be the choice we're presented with.

00:50:08.860 You know, Jay, when I got into this, I was reading a lot of political theory. I was trying

00:50:15.640 explain important concepts i never thought that my chief mission like my main political project

00:50:23.500 my very complicated political goal would be to tell conservatives that they have to try

00:50:29.900 that's it that that's my main message i've got other messages i've got other important things

00:50:35.040 to say to these people but the the most important one is you have to care about your kids you have

00:50:40.420 to care about your country you're gonna have to put some effort in like i get it this is not what

00:50:45.220 you wanted yeah i this is not what i wanted either like this is not how i wanted politics to go but

00:50:51.220 here we are right like if i walk down an alley and someone wants to you know knife me to death

00:50:57.240 my response is like well this isn't the weekend i wanted so i'm just gonna give up and let you

00:51:03.840 knife me no like now i'm gonna fight for my life like that's how it goes it's not what i wanted

00:51:09.160 but it is what it is and i'm not gonna sit there and watch these people knife me or knife my kids

00:51:13.900 or whatever so that they can have whatever they want like and the fact that that seems to be the

00:51:18.600 game plan is just insane i've got a couple chapters of like a you know half written chapters of a book

00:51:24.620 on politics becoming existential that i just didn't think i was going to need to finish because

00:51:29.140 like by the time i got done with it we would understand this like surely there's no way after

00:51:33.340 the death of charlie kirk that we were just going to sit around and you know twiddle our thumbs

00:51:37.400 about this and the answer is yeah actually that's exactly what we were going to do and so again while

00:51:43.800 we were busy arguing about like robert's rules of order and whether or not the filibuster is

00:51:49.040 somehow you know even though completely in no way in the constitution sacred to our democracy for

00:51:55.040 whatever reason the left is planning your death so i guess you have to try you know treat this

00:52:00.820 thing like it matters like like politics has been for pretty much all of history like i i too

00:52:06.700 enjoyed the moment when we had this like illusion that we were gonna like constantly debate things

00:52:12.960 And, you know, we're going to get in there and have the marketplace of ideas and the most rational guy was going to win.

00:52:19.760 But that's pretty far in the rearview mirror at this point, guys.

00:52:23.120 Like, it's very clear that the people who are willing to trade bullets are going to win this political contest if the other side just does nothing.

00:52:32.580 Right now, we have control, at least in theory, of the formal state apparatus.

00:52:37.660 Now is the only time we can do what needs to be done under the color of law.

00:52:42.960 So after this, if the government gets handed over to the Democrats, not only do they now have all the power they had previously, but now they have the formal mechanisms of the state to cover everything and anything they do, and we have nothing.

00:52:56.580 So if we're going to take any serious actions, we take them now.

00:53:00.340 So I really hope that the SPLC investigation is simply the very beginning of the Trump administration dismantling every part of the leftist network, because once these people feel heat, once they are no longer given free reign to do violence, once they no longer have this monopoly on violence in the public square,

00:53:23.240 they are they don't think themselves to be immune from the penalties that republicans and right

00:53:28.760 wingers and conservatives face whenever they just do something basic like protest once they feel

00:53:34.140 that i've got a feeling that things will fold up relatively quickly but you just have to have the

00:53:40.260 will have to be willing to take those steps and until we are we're going to continue to see more

00:53:45.280 of this none of this is going away until we make it a go away you're not shaming them into it you're

00:53:50.160 not talking them into it you're not reasoning them into it you're not going to cite principles

00:53:53.960 until they're done you crush them you crush them thoroughly and then they never do it again but

00:54:00.420 that's the only option all right guys we've got several uh questions from the audience coming up

00:54:05.180 so mr burden before we go to the questions of the people where do people find your fantastic work

00:54:09.820 yeah sure so my perme output is the jay burden show release an episode five days a week you can

00:54:16.180 find The Jay Burden Show anywhere you listen to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. And again,

00:54:20.900 Aaron, thank you so much for having me on. A pleasure to have you. As always, let's go to

00:54:25.900 the people. Weirdy Carab says, what do you mean by making it stop in regards to left-wing violence?

00:54:32.100 What is that phrase? What if that phrase causes more violence? What's the real question?

00:54:37.200 That's the real question we asked. Okay. So I think we're being sarcastic here, but yeah,

00:54:40.560 that really is the way that a lot of conservatives approach us. Oh, well,

00:54:44.440 you want to stop the violence well isn't that just violent rhetoric itself isn't that like

00:54:49.640 i'm not getting caught in these little quibbles over like you know which side who no like this

00:54:57.260 has to stop we need to do what needs to be done to make it stop i don't i don't care about debating

00:55:03.020 about it i don't think i'm going to persuade the left i'm under some delusion that ultimately

00:55:07.400 we're going to reason through it and so the only question now is what needs to be done and how

00:55:11.920 quickly can we do it and anyone else having any other conversation is wasting your time

00:55:16.080 sean wyland says boomers uh too complacent too comfortable to do anything and impossible to

00:55:23.680 motivate them is uh one i've had my entire life that's i think that's very true man but at this

00:55:29.700 point also the boomers are on the way out like sorry but like 80 year olds were not coming to

00:55:34.660 save you either way so like yeah it's a problem i agree with all the systemic issues but ultimately

00:55:39.580 we got to recognize it's our turn in the driver's seat now we have to we have to take you know

00:55:45.380 control we have to be serious organized make things happen look anyone anyone can hate the

00:55:52.200 boomers it takes a real man to hate millennials that's right that's right do you you have the

00:55:58.380 courage to hate the boomers but do you have the courage to hate the millennials yes

00:56:01.240 it's we're we're you know we're in the driver's seat now it's us in gen x and 0.56

00:56:07.960 this thing just has to happen again i'm more than i'm more than happy to to note all the ways in 0.97

00:56:13.820 which the boomers have failed uh the country but uh you know complaining about that will not will 0.90

00:56:18.820 not solve this problem at the end of the day wild speakers 94 says uh they're going to call you a 0.93

00:56:24.220 fascist anyway how about we get a little bit of the uh upside of fascism you know as a treat yeah

00:56:29.440 again you know charlie kirk was obviously not a man who supported fascism like he's not a guy

00:56:34.620 who's out there making wild rhetoric about, you know, Hitler or Mussolini or anything like that.

00:56:40.000 And they still shot him and they shot him from a magazine with fasc, you know, or with, with 0.72

00:56:45.240 bullets that say, Hey, fascist catch on them. So like, who are you kidding at this point? You can

00:56:51.020 call me whatever you want from your jail sale, right? Like that's it. That's, that's all like

00:56:55.500 you can call me whatever you want from the prison camp where we place you for trying to kill us. 0.98

00:57:00.600 Like, that's it. I don't care. I don't care at this point. 0.98

00:57:04.620 uh cv says uh look at how government tiptoes around the bundy family in utah inner city 0.78

00:57:12.280 rioters or islamic gangs in europe and ask yourself why civil rights this allows white

00:57:17.360 male organization yeah i mean again it's been pretty much the business of the federal government

00:57:23.240 for the last 50 to 60 years to exclusively ensure that right-wing people uh and you know

00:57:30.400 very often white people in no way politically organized like that's basically been like

00:57:36.720 literally that's what the splc was was training the fbi to do that's why christopher ray got up

00:57:42.760 in front of the country after being appointed by donald trump and said it's actually domestic

00:57:47.000 right-wing terror that is the most dangerous thing in the united states i mean that that

00:57:51.740 has been the purpose of the government forever and my point is i just want to flip that script

00:57:55.380 i want to make it impossible for left-wingers to politically organize to kill us

00:58:00.400 I want the same tools that were used against the right in the United States to be used against the left.

00:58:05.620 We don't even have to write new laws.

00:58:06.760 We just got to, you know, put the truck in reverse.

00:58:09.040 That's it.

00:58:09.620 That's all I'm asking for.

00:58:13.740 And Wild Speaker says, I wish the ring had never come to me, Gandalf.

00:58:17.720 You're right, Frodo.

00:58:18.880 This is too difficult. 1.00

00:58:19.940 We better beg the Nazgul for a return to civility. 1.00

00:58:22.520 civility yeah you know the great thing about lord of the rings is while a lot of people love to point 0.97

00:58:28.180 to it as some kind of uh you know anti-government screed some something about rejecting power

00:58:33.840 actually large amounts of the lord of the rings are about the necessity of good men accepting and

00:58:38.780 exercising power and the consequences that come when you do not use it you know the the famous

00:58:44.380 meme that gets posted all the time is war is upon you whether you wish it or not and that's what

00:58:48.600 conservatives just don't understand.

00:58:50.600 You don't have to go to war. You don't have

00:58:52.620 to declare war. The war is here. It's happening.

00:58:55.440 So the only question is, are you going to 0.90

00:58:56.580 fight or are you going to die?

00:58:58.480 The war has come. There is

00:59:00.680 no way to avoid

00:59:02.820 where we are now.

00:59:04.560 There might have been easier off-ramps,

00:59:06.740 but they're all behind us.

00:59:08.500 So now the only question is, will you

00:59:10.560 fight? And sitting there and

00:59:12.640 begging the other side to stop

00:59:14.420 is not going to be the solution here,

00:59:16.540 no matter how many times you try it.

00:59:18.600 all right guys well we're going to go ahead and wrap this up a pleasure as always to speak with

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - April 27, 2026

Assassination Culture： How To Make It Stop ｜ Guest： J. Burden ｜ 4⧸27⧸26

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