The Auron MacIntyre Show - Biden： Too Senile to Be Charged! ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 2⧸9⧸24

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00:00:30.620 Hey, everybody. How's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

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00:00:38.320 So Joe Biden, it turns out that he is too incompetent, too senile, 0.80

00:00:44.280 too affected and riddled with Alzheimer's to stand trial for crimes he's committed 0.95

00:00:50.040 or be charged with violations that he committed.

00:00:53.540 However, it turns out he can run the country.

00:00:56.440 We also saw Joe Biden try to come out after a special counsel report pointed out how senile he was and disproved that.

00:01:04.220 And the press conference he gave was quite the disaster.

00:01:07.340 We also had Tucker Carlson drop his long-awaited interview with Vladimir Putin.

00:01:12.240 A lot of interesting stuff going on there.

00:01:14.320 We're going to get to all of that.

00:01:15.980 And joining me to talk about it is the Prudentialist, everyone's very big frog.

00:01:20.360 Thanks for joining me, man.

00:01:21.740 Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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00:01:36.860 Yeah, that's a powerful moment of pride.

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00:03:19.480 So, we know that the two-tier justice system is wildly out of control of the United States.

00:03:26.680 There is no rule of law.

00:03:27.920 It's very clear that we live in a state where friend is good, enemy is bad,

00:03:33.100 and that is the only thing that matters when it comes to the application

00:03:36.280 of our law code in the United States.

00:03:38.980 We've talked about this many times before.

00:03:41.060 PridgerunnerUSA would tell you he's not surprised, as is so often the case.

00:03:44.280 However, this was a particularly egregious example here because, of course, we know that

00:03:49.320 President Trump has been charged with the same thing that Joe Biden was charged with,

00:03:55.000 which was the retention of documents, classified documents he's not supposed to hold on to,

00:03:59.860 and sharing them with people who were not qualified to see them.

00:04:03.180 And this is supposed to be the big violation.

00:04:05.240 This is why they ended up raiding Mar-a-Lago right before the midterms to make sure,

00:04:12.660 you know, certainly not to have any impact on that election.

00:04:15.800 Absolutely not.

00:04:16.720 The FBI would never coordinate with, you know, with presidential candidates or other political

00:04:21.460 campaigns during the midterms in order to, you know, impact the outcome of elections.

00:04:26.600 That would be crazy.

00:04:28.420 However, same charges.

00:04:30.580 And Joe Biden, of course, he doesn't get his house raided.

00:04:33.100 Some FBI just kind of come over and look at his basement, these kind of things.

00:04:36.840 And so they appoint a special counsel.

00:04:38.700 And the special counsel is supposed to figure out what's going on here.

00:04:42.920 You know, is he liable for any of these things?

00:04:44.660 Should he get the same kind of charges that Donald Trump does?

00:04:48.680 And the amazing thing is that he says, no, he's not going to give him the charges specifically

00:04:52.540 because he's too senile.

00:04:54.760 And if you put him before a jury, they would just say, oh, he's just a nice old man who

00:04:58.500 forgot what he was doing.

00:05:01.080 Yeah.

00:05:01.540 So really, that's the big story that everyone's taking out of this.

00:05:04.860 This is a 388 page document.

00:05:08.420 But of course, the big fun parts are right then and there that all of a sudden we have

00:05:12.680 a president who has difficulty in person interviews remembering when he was vice president,

00:05:18.280 when he was around and when his son had passed away and passed away in 2015 prior to him

00:05:26.300 announcing his run for the White House or saying that that was the reason why he decided

00:05:31.100 to in 2020 was because of his son Bo's death.

00:05:34.920 And so, yeah, he goes on to the stage and sort of responds to this.

00:05:38.260 We find out from Mr. Paul Sperry, who works with Real Clear Investigations, that special counsel

00:05:46.020 Rob Hurd gave the White House a draft copy of his report last Saturday.

00:05:49.860 So they've had basically a week.

00:05:51.580 The next day, it was leaked to the press and portrayed as exonerating Biden.

00:05:55.180 He's had the report for almost a week and wasn't blindsided by its findings.

00:05:58.440 They had already prepared a response.

00:06:00.880 The response that was given by the president of the United States did not help in any way,

00:06:05.640 shape or form whatsoever.

00:06:06.760 But I think the reason why this is not surprising or why I am so memed on to say that when I'm

00:06:14.660 on your show, Oren, is because this was already the game plan to go with since the 2020 election.

00:06:20.860 I referenced this on another show not too long ago, but there is a lovely op-ed from March

00:06:26.900 of 2020 by Alex Wagner of The Atlantic Magazine saying,

00:06:31.920 Stay alive, Joe Biden.

00:06:33.880 Democrats need little from the frontrunner beyond his corporeal presence.

00:06:38.100 So, I mean, Democrats are okay if it is a weekended Bernie situation or weekended Biden

00:06:42.700 situation and that right now all that Joe Biden hears is the caretaker's empty bliss beyond

00:06:47.980 this world in the back of his head because he's not the one running the show.

00:06:52.180 Most presidents don't really get to run the show when there's a huge, large bureaucratic

00:06:55.900 apparatus, you know, total state, if you were.

00:06:57.960 And we just kind of got more confirmation of what we've already known between the verbal

00:07:03.040 slip-ups, the questions of the mental acuity, even during the Democratic primary in 2020,

00:07:08.340 even Congressman, you know, Eric Swalwell was just like, you're too old, let someone else

00:07:13.340 take the reins.

00:07:14.540 And he's got his own baggage and problems.

00:07:16.500 But even then, it's been not just the right criticizing him either.

00:07:20.300 The day after this press conference, there's been everyone from Slate Magazine to The Guardian

00:07:24.820 to numerous independent left-wing journalists that are saying this is not a good look, as

00:07:30.300 they like to say.

00:07:31.580 So it's pretty darn clear that despite whatever differences there might be in our lovely world

00:07:36.400 of anarcho-tyranny USA, the obvious has, again, been stated that the president has no 0.98

00:07:42.760 clothes, the emperor has no clothes, and the president has no brain. 0.63

00:07:45.760 Yeah, I want to get into all of that, because the fact that the press conference happened 0.98

00:07:50.360 at all is absolutely insane.

00:07:53.200 And the fact that they had this document for a week beforehand, they were prepped, they were

00:07:57.480 ready to go, they should have known what their response was going to be.

00:08:01.240 And this was their response.

00:08:02.940 It has a lot of people asking, I think, an understandable question, and we'll get to

00:08:07.080 that in a second.

00:08:07.740 But they're asking, was this all a fix?

00:08:10.380 It was the fix in, was this a plan to get rid of Biden?

00:08:13.260 I'm going to ask your opinion about that, but before we do, let's go ahead and take

00:08:16.760 a look at the document in question, because I want people to understand everything that

00:08:21.160 we are talking about before we speculate on what it could all mean.

00:08:25.640 So what Biden says, or what the special counsel says right here, and this is the juicy part

00:08:31.560 everybody is talking about, says, Mr. Biden's memory also appeared to have significant

00:08:35.460 limitations, both at the time we spoke with, I have no idea how to pronounce that

00:08:40.480 properly, in 2017, as evidenced by their recorded conversations, and today, as evidenced

00:08:46.020 by his recorded interview with our office.

00:08:48.080 Mr. Biden's recorded conversations from 2017 are often painfully slow, with Biden struggling

00:08:52.900 to remember events and straining at times to read and relay his own notebook entries.

00:08:57.960 In his interview, Mr. Biden's memory was worse.

00:09:00.560 He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when

00:09:06.300 his term had ended, and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term had begun.

00:09:12.480 He also didn't remember within several years when his son, Beau, had died, and his memory

00:09:18.240 appeared to be hazing when describing the Afghan debate that was once so important to him.

00:09:23.740 So just an amazing amount of information that he has completely forgotten, and this is why

00:09:30.960 the special counsel said, look, yeah, he committed this stuff.

00:09:34.580 Like, he obviously did these violations.

00:09:36.380 He was vice president.

00:09:37.760 He retained these after he left office.

00:09:40.320 They're just sitting in his basement, sitting around in pretty much the same way that Trump

00:09:44.200 had some things sitting around in Mar-a-Lago.

00:09:47.320 The only real difference, you know, and their information on Afghanistan and on Iraq, but the 0.99

00:09:54.220 only real difference is that Biden is just kind of so inept. 0.95

00:09:58.760 He's so senile, he has no ability to remember his kind of day-to-day life, and even a few 0.98

00:10:04.640 years, significant events in his life, like the death of his son.

00:10:07.660 He can't remember any of these things, and so it's just not worth putting him on trial.

00:10:12.700 Now, I think for a lot of people, you would then say, okay, well, obviously this is a scenario

00:10:18.640 the 25th Amendment was created for, right?

00:10:21.880 This is the reason that you have this, is to take somebody out of this situation.

00:10:25.800 And when you have a president who's already installed under some pretty shaky circumstances,

00:10:33.620 I mean, Time Magazine literally ran the article about how a secret cabal of people put him

00:10:39.780 into the White House to save democracy.

00:10:42.200 When you have all the questions surrounding Joe Biden's election, you would think that this

00:10:47.980 would be a scenario in which you would want to save some level of credibility for the office

00:10:53.080 of the presidency by taking kind of formal steps to remove him or take him off the ballot,

00:11:00.340 at least at some level.

00:11:02.080 Because obviously, Joe Biden is not running the country.

00:11:05.480 Like he said, we know this is true of many presidents.

00:11:08.140 Donald Trump, obviously, in many cases, was not running the country, even when he tried to.

00:11:13.440 It was very clear he didn't have the executive powers he was supposed to have under the Constitution.

00:11:17.880 But you would think this would be some kind of constitutional crisis, right?

00:11:21.400 The entire country can see that this guy is completely unable to tie his shoes.

00:11:26.540 And he's obviously not the president, even though he was installed as the president after a shaky election.

00:11:32.120 This is kind of all the makings of a extreme constitutional crisis, continuity in government.

00:11:38.080 And it just doesn't seem to be triggering any of this stuff.

00:11:40.480 Yeah, it's like the sort of all the memes that came out in the midst of all of the congressional hearings

00:11:47.380 over unidentified, you know, flying objects, you know, like, oh, Congress just said aliens are real.

00:11:53.920 Why are you surprised?

00:11:54.640 Like, I don't know, man.

00:11:55.400 It's been it's been a rough it's been a rough patch.

00:11:57.620 It's been a rough week.

00:11:58.240 It's a Tuesday, you know.

00:11:59.180 And so to see people sort of just sort of shrug this off as in, well, we already knew this or that this is to no one's surprise is, I mean, really concerning because obviously the party doesn't care.

00:12:14.500 But historically, there have been multiple instances where we've sort of had people who are, for lack of a better word, somewhat invalid holding office when they probably are non compost mentis in the first place, whether that be.

00:12:27.300 And of course, some of this is pre 25th Amendment, obviously, you know, we can take a look at Woodrow Wilson, for example, who had a stroke into his second term.

00:12:35.560 And clearly, his wife basically was running the White House. 1.00

00:12:38.100 And so really, the first female president has already been achieved in America to some extent in the same way that, you know, we had FDR and having some issues there with respects to his health and other problems that presidents have had that they've kept under wraps.

00:12:51.600 So many people have speculated Reagan as well.

00:12:53.480 Well, Reagan has had a definitely more obvious example, I think, in some of his speech and his attitudes towards the end of his second term.

00:13:00.220 And of course, you know, President Kennedy, while not definitely had his mental faculties about him, had certain medical issues as well.

00:13:06.480 So, I mean, there's some tradition for this, not to say that that's a great excuse, but even the way the language that you're using, right, he was installed, he was put in, there was a quote unquote fortified election.

00:13:17.960 It does illustrate that we are long past any sort of questions about constitutional crises, because it seems that America at this point in time, when encountering a constitutional crisis, would rather sweep it under the rug and watch football the next Sunday than address the fact that there are serious governmental issues at stake.

00:13:36.040 And I mean, again, it raises the important question about the behemoth of our administrative and bureaucratized systems of government, especially in the executive branch, where people just do their job and keep things afloat and manage it.

00:13:49.720 And for a guy who has probably a small boardroom of maybe 20 neurons left that are trying to make decisions, quote unquote, as the president of the United States, it is somewhat impressive.

00:14:00.300 I have to give like the deep state credit here, which I know it's crazy I'm saying that, right?

00:14:05.360 But like you're basically fighting two or three wars abroad and you're trying to keep things afloat at home while rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies,

00:14:14.000 all while with like a really nice flex showing off that you can run a basically a mentally, you know, absent minded man.

00:14:23.360 I'm trying really hard not to say anything to me and basically run the country like that's impressive.

00:14:28.900 And that's a huge behemoth that whoever wants to take over due to regime change has to come to terms with.

00:14:34.880 That's what you're up against. And that's something to keep in mind.

00:14:37.240 The other thing that the report had that was particularly interesting was about, of course, there was the issue of a ghost writer who had helped write the memoirs Promise Me, Dad, and Promises to Keep.

00:14:49.600 Zwanitzer is his last name. That's how they refer to him at all.

00:14:53.060 So, you know, he had given interviews with the Justice Department, but the interviews that contained any sort of potential aspects of classified information,

00:15:01.600 those audio interviews with the president of the United States or with Joe Biden were deleted.

00:15:05.860 And then he had asked when investigators asked him if he had deleted the recordings because of the special counsel's investigation.

00:15:12.340 Zwanitzer had replied. He was aware that there was an investigation when he deleted the recordings and continued, quote,

00:15:17.840 I am not going to say how much was this as a percentage of it was my motivation, end quote.

00:15:23.600 So that's crazy because he basically just said, I'm not explaining further.

00:15:29.240 You know, I'm not going to go any further into that.

00:15:31.240 But yes, because of the investigation, I probably did that again.

00:15:34.660 So, yeah, and he's not being charged with anything.

00:15:37.600 And here we are.

00:15:38.680 I know at some point I should stop being surprised or confused.

00:15:45.200 But I do at moments feel like I'm taking crazy pills because I talk to or interact with, you know,

00:15:54.140 congressmen and senators and a lot of guys who have been established pundits and things for a very long time.

00:16:02.080 And they just keep talking like the system is working, right?

00:16:06.460 Like it's like you it's like going to an auto mechanic and being like, my car is on fire.

00:16:13.440 And every time like I, you know, I put the gas pedal down, flame shoots out the back.

00:16:18.640 And like if it's going to throw a rod and like everything is and they're like, but have you tried preventative maintenance?

00:16:25.900 Have you considered changing the oil from time to time?

00:16:28.260 I'm like, no, you don't understand.

00:16:29.480 Like, you know, the drive shaft is falling out like the, you know, like like the gearbox is shot like that.

00:16:36.060 Like I have serious problems with this car.

00:16:38.020 Like, obviously, the issue is not a tune up.

00:16:40.920 And they're just like, but have you considered filling it with a better type of gasoline?

00:16:45.860 Like, like every time I have these conversations, they act like there's just some small procedural issue.

00:16:53.020 Like, you know, if we just got to win a few primaries, man, primary a few guys and make sure that you go ahead and, you know, we maybe we pass one law, one bill.

00:17:03.000 You know, we've got to we've got to swap out a couple of guys over at the State Department.

00:17:07.040 Problem solved.

00:17:07.700 It's like I just I just stare at them and I look at what's going on and I just how I understand, like there's a level of investment in the system.

00:17:16.580 Right.

00:17:16.940 And if you've been working in the system for decades and your entire life has been about telling people that you're just one election away or, you know, one piece of legislation away or a little bit, a little bit of, you know, shoelace, pull yourself up by your bootstraps away from from solving this whole problem.

00:17:34.480 I get that, like, at some point saying the whole system has failed and it's on fire and we're we're in serious trouble, like has some kind of repercussions for like what you've been doing for the last 20 or 30 years.

00:17:45.680 But come on, man, like who's buying this at this point?

00:17:50.240 Oh, I mean, if the Nevada primary was any example, apparently like 80 some percent of the voters there are buying this and saying that it's a totally OK thing.

00:17:58.700 I mean, not that I'm a democracy respecter or democracy appreciator in these parts.

00:18:03.120 Lord knows that I'm not.

00:18:04.300 But it does indicate that most people don't care.

00:18:07.420 I mean, I think this is the very sort of serious realization that most people need to come to is that unless it's perfect, you know, unless I think the reason why the left loves that meme and why does it why does this affect you personally or how does it affect you personally?

00:18:20.920 It's an application to them because these things don't bother them because they're in the right client class.

00:18:25.960 They do not care that things are being ran allegedly by someone who has no memory whatsoever, because for them, it doesn't matter.

00:18:35.800 And the people that vote for him have no long term memory of nation or person.

00:18:39.200 They just need to maintain the system of political patronage that there is.

00:18:42.720 And so far, the administrative state and the federal government are making a really good job of making sure that that still happens.

00:18:48.500 And so, yeah, maybe it's the fact that we have this dynamic where someone has to say they're not surprised and someone feels like they're taking crazy pills.

00:18:55.980 But the crazy pill aspect of it is that the country is still running as effectively that it is.

00:19:01.480 And that should speak to the robust system of the American government and all the more reason why it would be great for those Project 2025 guys to take the reins instead, these crazy people.

00:19:11.140 But at the end of it all, you're looking at, again, a lack of mental acuity and faculties by the president of the United States, to the surprise of no one.

00:19:23.200 A really great insurance card right in his pocket.

00:19:26.600 And that insurance card is the vice president of the United States.

00:19:30.120 And there is no one to really primary challenge him.

00:19:32.900 I mean, there's no one really running against him.

00:19:34.260 There's like what, Marian Williamson and Dean Phillips and many states have already canceled their primaries anyway.

00:19:39.580 If they wanted to get rid of him, I mean, the convention would be the way to do it for the 2024 election.

00:19:45.760 But that seems very late in terms of legal paperwork on how to do that.

00:19:49.540 So we're stuck with this guy.

00:19:52.420 But again, that was the playbook in 2020.

00:19:55.120 And if everything's going to repeat itself right down to the same teams who are in the Super Bowl, then, yeah, like let's have a repeat where the Democrats just need Joe Biden's corporeal form crossing the finish line once again.

00:20:07.740 It does not matter that he can't remember the year that his son died.

00:20:11.180 It doesn't remember that he can't remember the church he got the rosary from.

00:20:14.780 It doesn't matter that the president of Egypt is now all of a sudden the president of Mexico.

00:20:20.320 The things that this administration is going to accomplish regardless of, they'll just keep pumping him full of drugs, uppers and whatever to keep it going.

00:20:27.520 And the sad state of affairs is that you can say that the emperor has no clothes, but the rest of the crowd doesn't even care.

00:20:33.620 So let's talk about that press conference real quick, but more importantly, what it means.

00:20:38.780 I mean, the press conference is is basically a joke.

00:20:41.100 Like you said, he gets up there.

00:20:42.360 He mixes up the names of world leaders.

00:20:44.440 He goes ahead and he's going to prove, oh, how dare they say that I've forgotten these things about my son?

00:20:50.620 How could they possibly say that I've forgotten that, you know, when my son died or how he died or all these things?

00:20:55.940 Obviously, I remember all of these things and I remember them so well that I remember I got this rosary from and then he just moves on.

00:21:04.680 Like, obviously, this this press conference is a complete disaster.

00:21:08.700 It kind of proves everything it's intended not to prove.

00:21:11.920 Yeah, this is a man who's been talking about how he was speaking to dead world leaders for the last few weeks.

00:21:16.560 Obviously, after you have this kind of report coming out, the worst possible thing you could do is step onto a stage and immediately show that everything in the report is correct.

00:21:27.600 And so there's only two options here, right?

00:21:30.520 There are well, possibly three, but there are two main options.

00:21:34.080 Your options are one, they wanted to get rid of him and the whole point was to put this the show on to force him out there to make a clip.

00:21:42.900 This has to be done so they have a plausible reason to take him out without being mean or anything.

00:21:48.280 It's just, oh, old Uncle Joe.

00:21:49.900 He did his time.

00:21:51.000 He kept Orange Man bad out of the office, but obviously it's time for him to ride off into sunset or to, as you pointed out, we now have media reports that they had this report for a week.

00:22:02.100 They felt it exonerated him.

00:22:03.720 They thought this was a good look for him.

00:22:06.140 They had a week to prepare for it coming out and they actually put him out there on purpose because they thought that this was the best way to rebut what was going on. 0.96

00:22:17.040 And people are really just that inept at this point.

00:22:20.080 Or the third thing is they just don't care. 0.84

00:22:22.520 They think they're so powerful that none of this can possibly affect them.

00:22:25.620 I saw a lot of people jumping on the first one.

00:22:27.680 They said there's no way Joe Biden could possibly be put back on the ticket after this.

00:22:32.320 This is a significant enough disaster where we need to start speculating.

00:22:36.220 Is it Michelle Obama?

00:22:37.220 Is it Gavin Newsom? 0.90

00:22:38.520 Are they crazy enough to try to run Kamala Harris? 0.83

00:22:41.420 All kinds of speculation about that.

00:22:43.700 But I got to be honest.

00:22:44.800 At this point, I really want to chalk it up to ineptitude.

00:22:48.380 I seriously want to say there's just no one at the helm.

00:22:53.260 And they thought that this was enough.

00:22:56.600 And as you pointed out, their entire strategy last time was to hide Joe Biden in a basement and run against Donald Trump.

00:23:02.060 And that's basically their same strategy this time around.

00:23:05.280 And they just went ahead and ran him out there anyway because they can't imagine a world in which they actually lose this thing.

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00:23:42.300 Yeah, I mean, that really seems to be the case.

00:23:45.340 I mean, I think when people do, oh, it's either malice or incompetence.

00:23:49.120 I mean, it can be both.

00:23:50.580 You know, I would never, never, never underestimate the power of saying,

00:23:54.540 ¿Por qué no los dos?

00:23:55.420 Like, why not do both?

00:23:56.860 Like the old El Paso commercials.

00:23:58.880 Because it is both of a large extent.

00:24:02.040 Whether, of course, let us not forget just a few short months ago, 0.95

00:24:05.560 we were laughing at the fact that the strange, bald, queer man 1.00

00:24:08.480 was the one stealing luggage and dresses 0.98

00:24:10.260 and was working with nuclear waste and whatnot in this administration. 0.98

00:24:14.160 Or that we replaced one woman for now a crazy, you know, 1.00

00:24:19.520 Haitian girl boss secretary, press secretary that is an absolute moron. 1.00

00:24:25.020 I mean, yes, there's some incompetency on the front-facing side of things. 1.00

00:24:29.940 And in the back foot, again, you know, they're still running things

00:24:32.860 and they're still doing things and conducting their policy both at home and abroad

00:24:36.000 and doing what they can to stay afloat and try and put pressure

00:24:39.340 wherever this administration wants to do it.

00:24:41.360 And you have to say this administration.

00:24:43.020 You can't say Biden.

00:24:44.220 Because once you put a name to it, sure, you're thinking one guy.

00:24:47.380 When we know that there's this monstrous behemoth of bureaucrats,

00:24:51.940 executive officials, staffers, congressmen, and so on,

00:24:55.040 that are all on board to keep this going where it's at.

00:24:57.380 I mean, you know, and this was an unannounced, you know, event.

00:25:03.980 You know, this wasn't on the president's itinerary that day

00:25:06.720 until I think they said 10 or 15 minutes before he was supposed to go up there.

00:25:11.520 Like, it was a very recent edition to talk about the news headline.

00:25:15.900 I mean, this was a direct response to the report coming out, 0.99

00:25:19.940 everyone pointing out the obvious, that this man has no brain,

00:25:23.120 you know, everywhere in empty bliss, everywhere beyond Joe Biden. 0.57

00:25:27.720 He's not there anymore.

00:25:28.820 He's gone.

00:25:29.440 He's necromancing.

00:25:31.240 He's talking to Francois Mitterrand, who's been dead for like 20 plus years.

00:25:36.240 I wanted to post a Shang Tsung meme as soon as he was.

00:25:40.300 Right, right.

00:25:41.680 And I think someone had this great tweet.

00:25:43.420 I wish I remember who said it's like, no, no, no, no.

00:25:45.620 He is communicating with the dead.

00:25:47.180 It's the dead trying to drag him to the underworld.

00:25:49.560 It's time for him.

00:25:50.200 He's so close to the veil. 0.97

00:25:51.260 It's so thin that he can reach across.

00:25:53.400 Like, they're just dragging him across.

00:25:55.360 Like, come towards the end of the tunnel, Biden.

00:25:58.740 Your time has come.

00:26:00.600 And so depart from me.

00:26:02.000 I do not know you, Joe Biden.

00:26:03.360 And he doesn't matter because he doesn't know him either.

00:26:05.480 But it's, I don't know what else you really can say other than, like,

00:26:09.980 it's just further confirmation that we live in a absolute nightmare 0.91

00:26:14.300 where the president has no brain, which we already knew,

00:26:17.800 and that bureaucrats are running everything. 1.00

00:26:19.940 Any semblance of democracy died in 2020.

00:26:22.740 You could argue it died much earlier in this country.

00:26:25.060 And that here we are facing the consequences of that.

00:26:28.640 And we're all supposed to play pretend like everything is normal.

00:26:31.940 We're all going to go watch the Super Bowl this Sunday.

00:26:34.020 We're all going to go vote on Super Tuesday.

00:26:35.820 We're all going to go vote November.

00:26:37.480 Vote harder, guys.

00:26:38.080 Get those primaries out there.

00:26:39.340 We're going to.

00:26:39.680 Remember, that's the real political solution,

00:26:41.880 an empty gesture of filling out something in a box.

00:26:44.360 And everyone's talking about, oh, like, everyone disagrees with him.

00:26:48.460 Everyone from, you know, Michael Rappaport, who hates, well, hates Trump,

00:26:53.740 hates in his demographic of voters.

00:26:55.500 And then all of a sudden, he's like, I'm not voting for Joe Biden.

00:26:57.600 I'm not doing this.

00:26:58.680 It does raise an interesting question to see this media heel turn.

00:27:02.200 Because, I mean, slate, you know, today.

00:27:05.260 Oh, well, Joe Biden suffered politically, saying his brain doesn't work.

00:27:08.600 Like, The Guardian, Biden was in a fighting mood for a surprise speech,

00:27:13.140 but he didn't win.

00:27:14.460 The president insisted he had put the country back on his feet,

00:27:17.420 but a last-minute fumble provided more fodder for his distractors.

00:27:20.580 Like, even the left-wing press, even the establishment press is like, who?

00:27:26.920 Yeah, I want to get into the media heel turn with you in a second,

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00:28:43.420 Yeah, so the thing I wanted to ask you about was obviously we know that

00:28:51.080 obviously we know that there's this desire by some people to replace him,

00:28:58.960 but we feel like he's probably going to get to go ahead and run,

00:29:01.740 that that doesn't seem likely.

00:29:03.080 But the media heel turn is pretty weird if they're not planning to replace him, right?

00:29:06.700 Like that's a very clear signal that, I mean, we've heard this from people.

00:29:11.420 There's been drips and drabs of this.

00:29:14.100 There are people who have been talking about how his cognitive decline could be an issue,

00:29:18.280 how that could affect the election,

00:29:19.460 how it's very clear that he's like losing a step here

00:29:22.400 and that maybe it's time to think about that.

00:29:24.300 There's been some rumbling, but it's very clear in the last day.

00:29:27.700 I mean, it's hard unless you've just,

00:29:29.540 if you just blinded yourself rather physically as a journalist to what's going on, 0.97

00:29:35.360 that if you don't mention something about how Biden is probably inept, 0.99

00:29:40.560 you're going to look foolish, you're going to look ridiculous for not even bringing this up. 0.99

00:29:44.440 There were a few journalists that tried to do this. 1.00

00:29:46.720 There was like an NBC guy who was just like, no, he's fine.

00:29:49.380 He's great.

00:29:49.880 I lost a step at all.

00:29:51.280 I think there was one article that his age is actually his strength.

00:29:54.640 I forget which insane outlet brought that out, but it was a rather mainstream one.

00:30:00.380 But you have to wonder, if you have this media heel turn,

00:30:04.180 does that lean credence to the idea that they are actually looking to replace him here?

00:30:09.120 I mean, would they let the press go hog wild like this if they were planning to keep him in place?

00:30:16.760 I mean, it raises an interesting question.

00:30:19.500 I think to some extent it was a genuine reaction to his performance.

00:30:24.620 And I say this because I heard the news that he was going to have this press conference.

00:30:30.000 I went to my phone, I was scrolling through YouTube to find like a live news source that was covering it.

00:30:35.420 And I was listening to some local DC channel affiliate, you know, just talk about it.

00:30:40.760 And they said, you know, we normally don't get surprise press conferences like this

00:30:44.500 because they're usually about historical or wartime matters.

00:30:49.000 And they had the audacity to like compare and like hype this up to Barack Obama's press conference in 2011

00:30:56.280 when he had announced the death of Osama bin Laden.

00:30:58.720 Like it was a real hype man moment.

00:31:00.820 And I was like laughing at my phone. 0.98

00:31:02.520 I was like, you've got to be shitting me, right? 0.96

00:31:03.920 Like this is not what's happening here. 0.96

00:31:06.280 This is a response to the special counsel's report because there's just no way you look at that

00:31:13.600 and don't think to yourself, you have to get out ahead of this.

00:31:17.740 You have to defend yourself.

00:31:19.520 And that's exactly what it was.

00:31:22.060 So I think to some large extent, this is the organic, dare I say, journalistic reaction to listen, we're in your camp.

00:31:31.460 We're team yes, man.

00:31:32.480 We're team sycophant.

00:31:33.680 But like, as a lot of lefty irony bros like to say, yikes, it's not a good look for you, bro.

00:31:40.240 And it did not help that Biden's attempt to act sad, whether it was with over the rosary and couldn't even say, you know, where the rosary was from, our lady of.

00:31:52.760 And then he like, you know, pauses out the confusion, the, you know, anger that he's got.

00:31:58.600 I mean, anyone who has seen someone get older and get worse in their mental faculties, that anger is usually due to confusion.

00:32:11.020 And none of this is what's being said.

00:32:13.380 Again, nothing new under the sun here.

00:32:15.480 But it's just if they get rid of him, maybe after they carry things over in 2020 and then some weird shenanigans happens where he dies.

00:32:23.920 But it looks like Kamala Harris is still on the ticket for vice president. 1.00

00:32:27.060 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:32:28.060 I mean, we won't, we won't, we won't find out until the convention, right?

00:32:31.160 And so I guess any postulation or speculation you and I have, I mean, we might have to wait until the DNC convention this year, which is in Chicago.

00:32:41.520 And it's going to be this, this July.

00:32:46.660 So we may have to wait, you know, four more months to figure out what the actual truth of the matter is going to be.

00:32:52.300 Because conventions are where the president is officially nominated.

00:32:56.120 So anything from now until, you know, July could technically happen.

00:33:00.220 But again, there's so much paperwork and legality stuff to work with here.

00:33:05.200 Lord only knows what's going to happen.

00:33:07.720 Yeah.

00:33:07.800 Americans are used to a very orderly procession of kind of media calls and things that lead you up to the point where the president is formally nominated.

00:33:18.900 A lot of people get very, you know, antsy whenever people try to look into what are the procedures, whether there be nomination or, you know, the actual, you know, the actual presidential election itself and its confirmation with electors.

00:33:33.860 Obviously, we see what happened with the attempt to look at alternative slates of electors and everything that they're attempting to scream at people about with that.

00:33:40.820 So it would be interesting if they, you know, with their focus on the need for proceduralism and all of that, it would be very strange for them to wait until the convention bypassing all of that stuff.

00:33:52.580 I mean, again, I guess they can just say, well, we do whatever we want.

00:33:55.880 We don't care.

00:33:56.480 And, you know, you'll just follow this.

00:33:58.880 But it would seem if you're going to make this move, if you feel like this is the move to make, it feels like you would make it before the convention.

00:34:04.980 You wouldn't wait till the convention itself once all of the all the procedure that's supposed to kind of insulate the democratic process has already passed to make that move.

00:34:14.500 However, this isn't the only thing I want to talk to you about.

00:34:17.440 Another thing I want to talk to you about, of course, was the interview we've had Tucker Carlson in Russia.

00:34:24.100 A number of people had spotted him in Russia.

00:34:26.520 They were speculating on this interview with Vladimir Putin.

00:34:29.060 It's not the first time that Tucker has attempted to interview Vladimir Putin.

00:34:32.800 According to Tucker, that that interview was quashed previously by the American government due to a number of things, including spying on his own text messages by intelligence services.

00:34:43.020 This time he was able to go ahead and get that done, and he dropped it first on his on his Nunes Network's website and then onto Twitter.

00:34:51.000 It's very interesting.

00:34:52.220 The media reaction, I think, is the most boring part. 0.78

00:34:55.080 They all scream that he's a traitor.

00:34:56.520 Of course, they did. 0.91

00:34:57.580 Like they can talk to every world leader as long as the Republicans in the White House and they hate the Republicans.

00:35:03.640 The minute it's, you know, it's the other way around talking to, you know, Vladimir Putin is treason.

00:35:09.420 That's not the surprising part to me.

00:35:11.200 What was interesting, I think, most about this interview was that contrast you were talking about.

00:35:17.420 Joe Biden can barely remember where he is.

00:35:19.680 He doesn't remember when he was president.

00:35:21.280 He doesn't know the names of world leaders.

00:35:23.900 Vladimir Putin starts the whole interview with 30 or 40 minutes of Russian history, which is kind of interesting because I started listening to a podcast about some of the Russian revolution that started with some of that interest, some of that history.

00:35:36.860 So I was familiar with that in the way that I hadn't been previously.

00:35:39.920 But he started with this long explanation of Russian history as to why he felt that there was some kind of reason that Russia had claimed to portions of the Ukraine.

00:35:51.080 And Tucker Carlson obviously is just like, oh, man, Americans are they're not going to listen to all this.

00:35:56.060 Like this isn't going to make sense to them.

00:35:57.360 They're not going to pay attention.

00:35:58.300 He's almost trying to hustle him along during this whole thing.

00:36:01.620 And I had a hard time, you know, you know, I'm thinking to myself like, yeah, Putin, you probably would have had a better time making some kind of analogy to a Marvel movie.

00:36:09.700 Like this is like the time that that Thor battled.

00:36:12.600 But this is that that's why we have a claim on Ukraine.

00:36:16.460 That probably would have meant more to most Americans, unfortunately, than than a long history of, you know, your possible claims to your Ukrainian territory.

00:36:24.700 Well, I mean, that's what the Ukrainians in the NATO Twitter account have done.

00:36:29.340 I mean, they've made every pop culture comparison that they can and throughout the stake of this entire conflict in order to get things going out towards their specific propaganda machine.

00:36:40.540 And I mean, this is something that President Putin had made a point saying that, you know, America really is the master of propaganda, which is inevitably true, I think, to a large extent.

00:36:51.380 I mean, Americanized Internet trends and English is the lingua franca of the Internet world.

00:36:58.780 I mean, a mutual friend of ours, Pontius Caracal.

00:37:01.140 I use the story all the time.

00:37:02.380 But when he's, you know, in the middle of downtown and he sees someone that looks just like him as a South African, as a poor, and all of a sudden he is speaking in perfect Americanized English over the phone.

00:37:13.340 That's an impressive amount of cultural hegemony.

00:37:15.820 And so, I mean, yeah, for us, we're used to everyone sort of catering to our needs.

00:37:19.760 We need to have things broken down to us people living in the imperial heartland on what on earth is actually going on.

00:37:27.920 And explain it to me like I'm someone who's like a really big Marvel, you know, fan like that.

00:37:32.680 We expect that.

00:37:33.420 I mean, that was sort of the running joke that even the Iranians had when General Soleimani was killed.

00:37:39.020 Right.

00:37:39.260 They're like, who do we kill?

00:37:40.460 SpongeBob?

00:37:40.960 Spider-Man?

00:37:41.480 What?

00:37:41.640 And you laugh at that, but it does illustrate that America does have what, and forgive me for invoking this name, but you know what the great leftist writer Gore Vidal said, you know, that America is sort of the United States of amnesia.

00:37:57.780 We have a limited sense of our own history and to a large extent a limited sense of our own youth as a nation.

00:38:04.540 So I think maybe that's why so many people were blown by that, because who's the last time a statesman or someone trying to run for president would speak like this?

00:38:14.240 The last time I can think of anybody was the 1992 election.

00:38:21.660 All of the chats with Ross Perot, you know, saying, here's how we're going to fix the country.

00:38:27.520 These are my plans.

00:38:28.400 And he would bring out like the scale and all of the wonderful charts and graphs that he had pointed out and what was going to be done.

00:38:36.460 And that was, you know, that was still different for, that's the last time I can think of him.

00:38:40.820 That was before I was born.

00:38:42.380 And so it really does indicate, yeah, there's this huge cultural divide.

00:38:45.660 I mean, we have movies about products, Warren, I mean, movies about Flaming Hot Cheetos and Air Jordans.

00:38:51.740 And I think of those as movies that help, quote unquote, Americanize the new population of immigrants that are here.

00:38:57.020 Because remember, you live in an economic zone, not a country.

00:38:59.900 So you have to learn the history of the product and the history of the sports star and not Daniel Boone or Johnny Appleseed or Paul Bunyan or any actual mythical or real hero of the United States' history.

00:39:10.520 And so I think that's why everyone in the West has been praising, you know, witnessing a president give an interview like this where he spends 40 minutes discussing a historical narrative for his people.

00:39:23.280 And remember, once you base things in history, once you tell a narrative, once you tell a story like that, you're giving credence to your claim.

00:39:30.300 It makes excellent narrative spending.

00:39:31.840 It makes for an excellent bit of propaganda.

00:39:33.460 And, you know, I had to laugh when, you know, he was saying that Poland was complicit with, you know, the Reich in World War II, because I'm currently going through Sean McMeek and Stalin's war.

00:39:46.060 I have the whole book series going through, breaking it down chapter by chapter if people are interested.

00:39:51.200 And it's just like, wait a second, you know, the Soviet Union is not peachy keen, squeaky clean here. 0.73

00:39:57.180 Like, excuse me, sir, but it allowed you to see sort of the Russian post-war mythology and the post-Soviet mythology that followed.

00:40:05.260 And I think that's why so many commentators and pundits have been so taken away by this, because, you know, we don't have anyone in the West that is willing to sit down and defend their stakes or their identity based on history.

00:40:18.780 I mean, outside of the American right, who cares about history, that cares about nation and people and where that location is physically located.

00:40:28.700 You know, I think that's why it had such a big impact on people.

00:40:32.340 Just just to to kind of drop people into the 10th circle of hell here.

00:40:36.760 When I when I when I taught, I taught I taught some some bad schools.

00:40:43.240 And when I taught history, you know, we had these games that were kind of like Jeopardy games and you have the kids do them and you throw a fun one in on Friday or something just to keep the kids interested.

00:40:53.940 So they'll pay attention to what you're doing.

00:40:56.380 And, you know, they can't do the history ones.

00:40:58.400 If you do one on like Christmas, they don't know anything about like, you know, the story of Christmas.

00:41:02.960 They can't tell you about Bethlehem or anything in there.

00:41:06.420 They don't know any of that stuff.

00:41:08.100 But if you do company logos, they love it and they know every single one.

00:41:13.060 They're they're they absolutely lose their minds and go.

00:41:16.180 So that that is the amount of common culture you have tying most of America together at this point.

00:41:22.760 However, yeah, I think you're right that it was very interesting that a lot of people would have would have looked at this and been very confused as to why they felt this was a legitimate argument.

00:41:33.060 I saw a lot of people just like, oh, a history lesson.

00:41:35.460 Like, how is this as if there was like they just don't understand what nation state you know, that a nation state and a kingdom and how territories used to be understood and and peoples and how these things used to cross many of these borders.

00:41:47.980 And that all of these borders that have been erected in the last 50 or 60 years are not new, but are not necessarily binding.

00:41:55.780 A lot of people don't consider them binding.

00:41:57.500 But what did you think about kind of Putin's argument there?

00:42:01.260 I mean, basically, his his two pronged argument was, look, there are these color revolutions and you're trying to get NATO onto our doorstep and we didn't want, you know, we don't want that here.

00:42:12.200 But you kept pushing it anyway.

00:42:13.700 And then the other kind of prong of this was the historical argument of why we feel we have a claim or our our our culture and our people kind of extend to this area.

00:42:25.800 Do you think that because Tucker's response was basically, OK, well, why didn't you make this argument years ago?

00:42:31.220 It feels like you're making this now, but you didn't lay this case out significantly previously.

00:42:36.560 What do you think about kind of that exchange?

00:42:40.460 Yeah, the two pronged argument, one, the historical narrative and then the sort of argument that you would hear from someone like John Jay Mearsheimer, that there has been increasing encroachment closer and closer towards former Russian buffer states or Russian sphere of influence.

00:42:57.880 To me, it reminds me so much of some extent, like American foreign policy, I guess, and to some extent, Russia's as well as like frozen and like the turn of the night turn of the 20th century, where we're still talking about things like Mackinder and Speakman and like the world island theory and the great game between like, you know, the U.S. versus Russia or the United Kingdom versus Russia and Great Britain and what we're going to do about it, despite the fact that

00:43:27.880 the tools of the tools of empire have drastically changed. But we're still speaking in those terms and we're still looking at the world that way, which I think is one really interesting, considering the rhetoric that Putin was using.

00:43:39.440 But two, I mean, the history stuff, I'm not sure who that was for, other than to sell the story to fact checkers and to which I know the BBC has already done and has laid out its issues with Putin's claims.

00:43:54.180 But again, you know, he's sitting down and giving them a sort of civilizational, ethnically nationalist minded narrative about the people and who we are and that, you know, the Americans don't particularly understand that this is a region and a people and a country and a civilization.

00:44:13.120 Very Samuel P. Huntington, mind you, that, you know, we've been around since like the turn of the 8th century and we're not going away.

00:44:24.040 And here we are and we have claims to this part of the world.

00:44:27.080 And I know that there are counter arguments and there's history to claim the whole Kivian Rus thing being a whole different, you know, Ukrainians existing as well, although he views that as fiction.

00:44:36.380 And it was just, I'm not too sure what to make of it other than to say that historiography makes for a great narrative.

00:44:45.680 It makes for a great political formula to sell to both your own people at home, but more specifically abroad, because you're this interview, Russians are going to watch it.

00:44:56.240 Sure. But that interview is in English.

00:44:58.200 I mean, yes, it's translated on his side and I'm sure Putin knows English, but he's speaking Russian as a flax and he's doing what he needs to do to sell a narrative to people like you and I, to sell a narrative to the mainstream press and to the public.

00:45:11.520 But this far into the war, I think Tucker's question, well, why not use that sooner?

00:45:17.380 And Putin says, well, it wouldn't have mattered.

00:45:19.840 It doesn't matter now to some extent.

00:45:21.940 I mean, the Biden administration isn't going to change its mind on Russia.

00:45:24.400 But, oh, the Victorian Newland is still has like a huge axe to grind and wants to kill hundreds of thousands of more Slavs to get her victory to have to happen. 1.00

00:45:32.760 So it does raise the question of like, what was the point of this?

00:45:37.080 But again, it sets forth the political narrative, because while American propaganda is stronger, Russian propaganda is real.

00:45:45.840 It does exist there.

00:45:47.500 You know, they did.

00:45:48.040 You know, you laugh at Facebook memes or whatever.

00:45:49.720 But Russia does well in areas in which like the regime, the United States government has to like now take care of or sweep under the rug like, oh, great.

00:45:58.680 Now they're trying to talk to the quote unquote far right maggot extremists like it feeds in to the progressive feedback loop where it'll probably hurt, you know, to some extent our own costs is potentially more than anything else.

00:46:11.000 But I don't know where else to go with that, to be honest with you, Oren.

00:46:16.140 Another thing that he did that I found interesting was he focused a lot on a denazification storyline.

00:46:22.560 He said, oh, well, we have to go into Ukraine to prevent these neo-Nazis.

00:46:27.640 If we, you know, we stand against this.

00:46:29.960 And so we have a duty, you know, to go in there and disrupt any any attempts to revivify, you know, this this Nazi ideology. 0.59

00:46:39.420 And so that's the reason that we kind of have this this cause a spell to go in there and interrupt and take it take a strong hand into that nation in time.

00:46:48.920 I found that interesting because that's exactly what our government says, you know, Biden calling his opponents semi-fascist.

00:46:56.860 This is, you know, Paul Gottfried, of course, has the anti-fascism, you know, and explaining how this is basically the crusade that that rules the United States at this point.

00:47:07.480 And this is the ideological justification for this.

00:47:10.700 What do you think about the universality that, you know, you've got Vladimir Putin and you've got Joe Biden and they've got the same legitimizing ideology as to why they need the power to constantly interrupt, you know, whether they be other countries or the people of their own country.

00:47:27.100 We have to purge, you know, the denazification.

00:47:30.480 You know, it's as Tucker pointed out, this is, you know, 80 years later or more.

00:47:34.380 Like, what's why is this still what is this?

00:47:37.960 Why is this still so powerful?

00:47:39.280 Why is this something that that even somebody like Putin would reach for when he says, oh, of course, I have a reason to go in Ukraine.

00:47:45.320 I mean, at least there's, I guess, actual neo-Nazis there.

00:47:47.500 Well, on the surface, yeah, there is a lot of similarities.

00:47:52.280 You know, you have what they would call the Great Patriotic War.

00:47:54.820 We refer to that generation who fought in the war as the greatest generation.

00:47:58.220 And that, you know, we both have huge post-war narratives and mythologies about how that war was fought and why we got involved.

00:48:07.780 And that despite the fact that, you know, we think that we only fought a war against Germany,

00:48:12.460 we were also the biggest reason why the United States was the biggest reason to invest, fund, support, subsidize the Soviet Union.

00:48:20.440 Even the reason why Stalin became so powerful in the first place with respects to modernization and the money that we had.

00:48:26.340 Plus, FDR's admin was full of communists.

00:48:29.240 And that's an unfortunate tragedy of our history.

00:48:32.380 So, I mean, on one hand, they are very different.

00:48:34.720 I mean, throughout that entire narrative, there was no condemnation of Bolshevism.

00:48:41.100 I mean, Putin does have, I mean, there was, let me correct myself.

00:48:43.940 He does have issues with Bolsheviks in there.

00:48:45.540 It did sound like there was almost personal animosity.

00:48:49.240 But, I mean, even during the World War II narrative, the Soviet Union did nothing wrong,

00:48:54.020 despite things like the Katya massacre, where, you know, 20,000 some odd Poles were just executed outright by Stalin, you know, on Stalin's order.

00:49:04.120 And, you know, again, it's why people need to read the books Stalin's War by Sean McMeek, and it's so good.

00:49:09.760 But, I mean, like, our post-war mythologies are very different to where, to a large extent,

00:49:14.880 even though there are actual neo-Nazis in Ukraine, you know, de-Nazification or, you know,

00:49:20.480 trying to stomp out these nationalist movements, as he had called it, nationalism, neo-Nazism, fascism.

00:49:27.000 To some extent, I think it's also just viewed as this blanket term of just, like, anti-Russian or anti-Russian state

00:49:34.220 in that perspective in the same way that, you know, we would call nationalism or, like, white supremacy in America

00:49:39.500 just, like, anti-American, despite the fact that there's really nothing American about this regime anymore.

00:49:45.600 And so, I mean, on the surface level, there's some comparisons,

00:49:48.560 but I thought it was particularly interesting to hear an argument that, like, we see fascism,

00:49:53.820 we see this as a threat to our existence.

00:49:55.380 And, I mean, let's be very clear, I mean, fascism did almost destroy the Soviet Union during World War II.

00:50:03.100 That has to leave a huge civilizational scar on the people,

00:50:07.860 and it serves probably as a great narrative tool and framing to justify this sort of attack.

00:50:13.500 You know, political formulas sell you the justification for state action,

00:50:17.080 to, you know, rip from our elite theorists that we love to cite and read so much.

00:50:21.400 So, I mean, it does illustrate that they have their own way to do it.

00:50:25.160 But, yeah, sure, Hitler's been dead for 80 years, but as, ironically, Curtis Yarvin pointed out,

00:50:30.600 we're still ruled by the guy because we're still afraid of him.

00:50:34.140 The West and the East isn't haunted by Marx or anyone like that.

00:50:38.520 They're haunted by Hitler. 0.88

00:50:41.040 So, I think you're right that at the end of this, it feels like there's not a whole lot that changes.

00:50:45.980 It's interesting that Tucker was able to do this, the type of pushback that he got from the regime

00:50:51.380 is pretty much what we expected.

00:50:53.600 And despite Putin making this kind of historical argument,

00:50:57.860 I don't think that's going to sway anybody really one way or the other.

00:51:01.760 So, I guess the question is, is there anything else that we should have taken from this,

00:51:06.480 or is this all just kind of a nothing burger after all of this?

00:51:12.020 I'm not too sure how much of a nothing burger it can be.

00:51:14.840 I mean, this interview has, what, over 130 million views on Twitter,

00:51:18.720 and that's just from the Tucker Carlson tweet alone.

00:51:21.720 Who knows about all the additional sources that have reported on it?

00:51:25.100 And it's on the, while it's one of the smaller social media platforms,

00:51:30.280 it is arguably the most important because this is where the quote-unquote discourse happens,

00:51:34.960 where, as you famously know, today's tweets can be read out by Tucker Carlson later that afternoon

00:51:40.520 on Fox News when he was still on the air.

00:51:42.240 He famously had that happen to you.

00:51:44.080 And so, it does illustrate that, I think, to some extent,

00:51:48.000 there's probably a victory in it for him somewhere.

00:51:50.880 I mean, obviously, we're talking about the interview.

00:51:53.080 Your audience is going to hear about the interview,

00:51:55.100 and people want to know what does that really mean.

00:51:57.900 I mean, I'm no George Kennan.

00:51:59.220 I'm not a Russian expert by any extent of the imagination.

00:52:02.300 But I think the fact is that there are talking points in there that are now going to be used by conservatives,

00:52:08.620 to some extent, maybe even in Congress or someone like J.D. Vance,

00:52:12.040 that will cite these things, and then all it will take is some Democrat to censor them

00:52:16.660 or Biden to call them traitorous, as we already expect them to do so.

00:52:20.460 We've already seen Thomas Massey be called an anti-Semite by, like, David Frum and the other neoconservatives

00:52:26.120 because he wants to fund America and not places like Israel and Ukraine.

00:52:29.620 And so I feel like we're going to get more of the same.

00:52:33.860 So maybe a nothing burger, but I think only time will tell.

00:52:36.880 It's going to be the follow-through.

00:52:38.940 We are literally reacting less than 24 hours after the interview came out.

00:52:43.260 Yeah, and I hear you that, obviously, the reach of the interview is insane.

00:52:47.100 Like, the raw numbers from kind of just that one tweet, like you said, is wild.

00:52:52.940 And so I'm not saying that there isn't any kind of impact on the psyche,

00:52:56.320 but just that it's not going to immediately impact any actions taken.

00:53:02.360 I don't think there's, like, an aha moment that comes from people listening one way or the other.

00:53:07.920 A lot of people criticize Tucker for involving himself in the interview,

00:53:12.320 but I think he handled it well.

00:53:13.760 I think it was clear that Putin was kind of in control to some extent in that interview,

00:53:18.500 but Tucker made sure to keep his questions always challenging.

00:53:22.720 They were always on point.

00:53:23.860 They were, none of it was, you know, none of him was giving undue deference to Putin and any of that.

00:53:30.300 And so I think he pretty much did his job of having that conversation

00:53:35.020 and hearing the other side of things without, you know,

00:53:38.000 without embarrassing himself or making him a tool of another country,

00:53:41.800 that kind of thing, the way that some people had scared that he would be.

00:53:44.920 Yeah, I mean, he did get called out with respects to the CIA and things like that.

00:53:50.960 To me, I mean, if anyone has seen the Oliver Stone Putin interviews from a few years back,

00:53:57.040 you got actually a lot of the same when it came to administrations.

00:54:01.880 You know, it's not so much presidents, it's about the secret services,

00:54:04.900 it's about the intelligence and the people with briefcases and suits,

00:54:08.720 although he did allude to getting better along with people like Donald Trump and George W. Bush

00:54:14.700 than he did his Democratic colleagues.

00:54:15.160 Yeah, it was interesting how much he seemed to like George Bush, but yeah.

00:54:18.500 Well, you know, they seem to have a much better relationship up until towards the end in 2008

00:54:23.200 for a myriad of reasons.

00:54:25.860 But yeah, no, it was interesting that Trump was never really named at all

00:54:30.380 outside of that relationship thing, but he did, you know, name drop the whole,

00:54:33.840 you know, Supreme Court battle that's happening right now

00:54:38.080 over whether or not a state can call Trump an insurrectionist and take him off ballot.

00:54:41.780 So, and that's something that also happened to this week as well.

00:54:44.800 It's been a crazy week in terms of the news.

00:54:47.120 But again, this could turn into a nothing burger.

00:54:51.100 I mean, like the Trump mugshot went viral and then everyone just forgot about it like a week later.

00:54:56.980 So this could be something like that where, oh, you know, like, yeah,

00:55:00.040 there was the Tucker Putin interview thing.

00:55:01.880 But I mean, the war's still going to go on.

00:55:03.900 There's still going to be arguments over when peace talks could have happened

00:55:06.620 and people are still going to be dying needlessly.

00:55:09.520 The canonical Orthodox Church in Ukraine is still going to be persecuted to no end.

00:55:13.680 And America is still going to be trying to spend billions of your tax dollars trying to fund a war

00:55:17.880 that is only going to get more people killed that doesn't serve any tangible beneficial interest

00:55:23.000 to people like you and me.

00:55:24.240 So I think the nothing burger is a very safe bet.

00:55:27.220 The nothing happening gang seems to have a pretty good track record so far.

00:55:31.520 Yeah, well, yeah, don't don't forget, guys, that, you know, the Senate is now looking to approve that bill,

00:55:36.640 you know, that that strips all border funding out.

00:55:39.320 So it's just money for Ukraine, Israel and Gaza.

00:55:42.440 Don't worry.

00:55:43.500 Your border is the very last thing that matters. 0.70

00:55:46.380 The empire.

00:55:47.540 Every other country's border is far more important.

00:55:50.840 All right.

00:55:51.140 Well, we're going to go ahead and pivot to the questions of the people.

00:55:53.820 But before we do, Mr. Prudentialist, where should people be looking for your commentary on

00:55:58.400 Solomon's war and everything else that you do?

00:56:00.140 Well, as always, Oren, thank you so much for having me on.

00:56:03.580 It's always a pleasure.

00:56:04.540 People can find me over at findmyfriends.net slash the Prudentialist.

00:56:08.340 I am on all podcast platforms, Substack, YouTube, Twitter, Odyssey, all sorts of places

00:56:15.000 that you can find me there.

00:56:16.660 Just look for the wonderful frog in the profile picture.

00:56:19.360 You'll find me there.

00:56:20.160 I had a great conversation this week discussing the issue of, quote unquote, the PayPal mafia.

00:56:25.460 So Silicon Valley's influence on American politics with our mutual friend, Matt Erickson,

00:56:29.800 a.k.a.

00:56:30.480 Kingpilt.

00:56:30.880 I highly recommend people look into that.

00:56:32.940 And then continuing next week, the Sean McMeekin-Stalin's War.

00:56:36.580 If you want a new history of World War II, you want to understand how much you don't hate

00:56:40.600 FDR enough and you don't hate Bolshevism and communism enough.

00:56:43.760 I highly recommend that book.

00:56:45.040 I've got several chapters out where friends and I have discussed reading through it.

00:56:48.160 It's a fantastic book.

00:56:49.740 And it's important for us to know our history.

00:56:51.500 That way we aren't the United States of amnesia.

00:56:53.640 And we do have a better understanding that the world is way older than you and I could

00:56:57.700 ever imagine it really is.

00:56:59.380 You don't hate Bolshevism enough. 0.87

00:57:01.100 You think you do, but you don't.

00:57:02.380 You don't.

00:57:03.000 Yeah.

00:57:03.620 I mean, you could say Bolshevism journalists.

00:57:05.540 It's really the same thing these days.

00:57:07.760 Hard to argue.

00:57:09.380 All right.

00:57:09.820 So let's go to our questions here.

00:57:11.840 Blael Bradley says, take my Biden bucks while they're still worth something.

00:57:15.980 Thank you.

00:57:16.380 I appreciate you getting rid of those right before inflation makes them nothing but a stack

00:57:21.760 of paper.

00:57:22.220 Very much appreciate it, sir.

00:57:23.860 We have Deuce Boogaloo who says, Biden being brain dead makes him more popular with Dems.

00:57:28.960 They want someone who will fall in line with the party.

00:57:31.040 Nothing terrifies them more than the chance of a maritone type like Sinema or Fetterman.

00:57:35.160 Yeah.

00:57:35.820 Hilarious that Fetterman has now awoken from his brain injury, saying all kinds of things that

00:57:42.640 they don't like.

00:57:43.420 But yeah, there is a very real truth to the fact that when you have this oligarchy that

00:57:49.660 really wants to obfuscate all responsibility for what they're doing, Biden is the perfect

00:57:53.960 fall guy because like, how can anyone get angry at him?

00:57:56.600 He's just obviously a grandfather who can't remember where he where he put his shoes.

00:58:01.360 And the whole time, all the people who are actually in charge, they can't actually be

00:58:05.060 targeted.

00:58:05.580 They can't be impeached.

00:58:06.460 They can't lose an election.

00:58:08.100 There's no actual repercussions.

00:58:09.860 It's kind of just the perfect shell game for an incredibly corrupt regime that wants to

00:58:14.480 make sure that there's no one in power who might actually have some level of charisma

00:58:18.320 that that could steer the ship their own direction.

00:58:21.260 Yeah, absolutely.

00:58:21.940 Right.

00:58:22.200 And I mean, the last thing that they would they would want is Joe Biden to somehow be

00:58:26.380 more brain damaged and somehow start making more sense.

00:58:29.060 I mean, this is why the meme about like Fetterman becoming retarded and he becomes more competent, 0.99

00:58:34.260 like maybe a Senate full of them wouldn't be so bad. 0.98

00:58:36.640 But again, it does illustrate that you shouldn't be simping for brain dead Democrats. 0.90

00:58:41.180 Yeah, just get it.

00:58:43.440 Get him through the brain injury and then to baseness is that was the strategy.

00:58:47.660 But I don't know.

00:58:48.340 Apparently, I don't know if it works, though.

00:58:51.200 J.D.

00:58:52.460 4.1 says Douglas McGregor was on Tom Woods podcast yesterday.

00:58:56.240 It was great.

00:58:56.640 I'm sure it was the great Tom Woods.

00:58:58.240 I've been on there a couple of times.

00:59:00.400 McGregor is always interesting.

00:59:01.840 He's always an interesting take.

00:59:02.940 So I would definitely recommend checking out that conversation.

00:59:06.620 I haven't seen it yet, but I think it's probably great.

00:59:08.960 I think you're right about that.

00:59:10.440 We've got Deuce Boogaloo again. 0.98

00:59:11.940 He says, also, I saw someone tweet that Kamala was specifically chosen as a 25th Amendment

00:59:17.140 insurance for Biden.

00:59:18.500 Yeah, many people have made that joke.

00:59:20.300 That actually makes it even more sense than her being a diversity hire.

00:59:24.260 I'll say this.

00:59:24.880 I think she really was chosen.

00:59:26.620 I think they wanted her.

00:59:28.500 You know, she checks all the boxes.

00:59:30.320 I think they wanted to take her off the bench. 0.99

00:59:31.880 I think she was part of the farm team. 0.98

00:59:33.340 And it just became so clear that she is so incredibly inept that they just can't possibly 0.99

00:59:38.040 run her. 1.00

00:59:38.420 I don't think she was specifically chosen to backstop Biden in the 25th, though.

00:59:43.520 She does have that effect now.

00:59:45.680 Yeah.

00:59:46.180 And I mean, technically, Joe Biden was also Barack Obama's insurance policy.

00:59:50.120 I mean, and so so was Teddy Roosevelt.

00:59:52.720 So, I mean, vice presidents have been a long history of telling people, listen, you may hate

00:59:57.260 me, but the guy that's my vice president is even worse.

01:00:00.200 Well, it's supposed to take Roosevelt out of New York, right?

01:00:02.040 That's the whole reason he gets.

01:00:02.940 That was the plan.

01:00:03.900 And then, you know, McKinley gets whacked. 0.52

01:00:06.260 Always watch out for the anarchists.

01:00:08.000 That's true.

01:00:08.740 That's true.

01:00:11.880 Perspicacious Heretic says, we've been one election away my whole life.

01:00:15.900 You and me, too, brother.

01:00:16.980 You and me.

01:00:18.400 I hear you.

01:00:19.240 Me, too, kid.

01:00:20.120 Me, too.

01:00:20.420 Yeah, right.

01:00:22.720 I'm just waiting for something exciting to happen.

01:00:24.860 I'm just growing the growing the beard, you know, as that hat, as we're talking about

01:00:28.920 it.

01:00:29.380 Blau Bradley says, the rumor is that when Biden wins the primaries, his people will get him

01:00:34.360 to release his delegates for Newsom.

01:00:36.960 Again, like, I know it's fun to speculate about all that.

01:00:39.920 And who knows?

01:00:40.520 Like, we're so through the looking glass that anything's possible.

01:00:44.540 But I do seriously doubt that we're going to see a switch in the actual convention.

01:00:53.380 It would be a very dangerous way to treat an already fragile system. 0.66

01:01:00.260 But again, they're so inept and just sure of themselves simultaneously that that could 0.96

01:01:07.520 be possible. 0.98

01:01:08.180 But I am doubtful of that.

01:01:09.500 So anything I won't rule it out.

01:01:12.660 I think the odds are low, but we'll have to wait till July in Chicago.

01:01:16.040 Yep.

01:01:16.980 Darby DZ says, while 24 hours, we learn Putin is just as autistic as our favorite Twitter 0.62

01:01:21.960 mutuals.

01:01:22.800 And the U.S.

01:01:23.140 president just held an emergency news conference to deny the finding.

01:01:26.800 He's essentially legally disabled.

01:01:28.840 And by the way, he then confirmed it live on television, which was my favorite part.

01:01:33.140 That was that was a great tweet by I think his name is like chocolate milk or whatever,

01:01:38.100 you know, just holds an emergency news conference to deny the findings. 0.84

01:01:40.780 He's essentially legally retarded. 0.99

01:01:42.320 And it's just like, yep, I'll, you know, to, you know, I don't want 40 minute lecture 0.99

01:01:46.960 on my nation's history versus I'm not that stupid, but I am. 0.90

01:01:51.040 But so I mean, it was it was if we say optics matter and the optics game is real. 0.99

01:01:56.100 Biden failed the optics check.

01:01:57.780 Roll the natural one.

01:01:58.860 Do not pass go.

01:01:59.640 Do not collect $200.

01:02:00.440 Please collect coal and cringe and let's get out of here. 0.85

01:02:04.180 Speaking of good memes, the the Putin as the map gamer meme was great.

01:02:08.740 Like all of them.

01:02:09.700 Yeah, like him spread out in front of his empire with the with the computer screen.

01:02:14.160 Yes, yes.

01:02:15.220 The he playing Europa Universalis for with Baron Trump over the Internet.

01:02:20.300 That's what's happening.

01:02:21.200 It's how empires are forged.

01:02:24.520 Lovelar says even my progressive friends hate Kamala.

01:02:28.120 I think they'll run him even at even if at all costs left to Biden is a brain in a jar

01:02:33.940 with an electrical current. 0.79

01:02:35.360 Yeah, I really do think they're going to run him amazingly enough as just as insane as

01:02:40.320 that sounds from everything we've seen. 0.98

01:02:42.300 I mean, guys, you can't have clown world without clowns. 0.91

01:02:45.460 OK, that's all there is to it. 0.77

01:02:47.660 You can't you can't be in clown world if the most absurd thing doesn't keep happening.

01:02:51.440 He also follows up and says the board of Biden's neurons has fall as full confidence

01:02:56.560 in his ability.

01:02:58.420 Yeah, all 12 of them, all 12 neurons.

01:03:01.020 Right.

01:03:01.680 Full vote of confidence.

01:03:03.680 All right, guys, well, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - February 09, 2024

Biden： Too Senile to Be Charged! ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 2⧸9⧸24

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