Bill Maher is not a dangerous person, and he's not dangerous to anybody. He's just slightly to the right of whatever the most insane progressive thing is, and that's why he catches the heat that he does. But at the end of the day, Bill Maher knows exactly how safe he needs to be to continue to collect those checks.
00:29:08.320Well, we'll talk about that more in a moment.
00:29:09.940Let's go ahead and hear them talk a little more about equality.
00:29:12.360So you can have your points of view and your positions on these things, but don't try to piggyback on what I've always believed.
00:29:21.320I have always believed as liberals do, for example, in a colorblind society, that the goal is to not see race at all anywhere for any reason.
00:29:48.980All of them were really into the idea that you were going to alter the way that society ran by forcing people to see color in a very particular way, to see race in a very particular way.
00:30:08.960That, that was not what they were pushing for.
00:30:11.140That's what liberals always believed all the way through Obama going back Kennedy, everybody, Martin Luther King.
00:30:21.820So I'll be, and if you want to, if you want to understand that this is not what Bill Maher was supporting, this is not what he believed in at all.
00:30:29.980Uh, Barack Obama, really Barack Obama was for a colorblind society.
00:30:34.960Barack Obama, who specifically went out of his way to foment race riots.
00:30:39.440Barack Obama, who specifically went out of his way to create all kinds of racialist programs, carve out a, a racialist, uh, system of payouts to people.
00:30:50.220Do you think Barack Obama didn't see race?
00:30:52.680Do you think he wanted a colorblind society?
00:30:54.820No, he went exact, wanted exactly the opposite.
00:30:57.160And he was pretty explicit about this.
00:30:59.080So the fact that Bill Maher brings this off as the first example is just delusional.
00:31:05.820But even if you go back to his actual examples in history, he's, you know, references someone like Martin MLK.
00:31:12.740Well, this, here's one for the, for conservatives too.
00:31:15.160Sorry guys, but Martin Luther King Jr. was not a fan of colorblind society.
00:31:19.480That was not actually what he was advocating for.
00:31:22.680Yes, everybody quotes, you know, the, I want, I, you know, the judge a man on the content is character and the color of his skin.
00:31:29.140But unfortunately that was not the only thing that Martin Luther King Jr. ever wrote.
00:31:33.240It's not the only speech he ever gave.
00:31:34.840It's not the only position he ever held.
00:31:36.780And he was very clear over and over again that he was looking for racial quotas, that he was looking for affirmative action, that he was looking for a society that actively changed, actively meddled in the racial composition of its institutions, its hiring practices, and everything about it to reflect some kind of idealized situation.
00:31:57.360He was not about a colorblind society at all.
00:32:00.200That was not his understanding of the United States, where it should go and how it should solve its problems.
00:32:07.420But again, these, this is held up as this is what liberalism always was.
00:32:13.360Well, okay, but if that's the case, then the very people you're citing don't believe in what you're saying now.
00:32:18.520Like, like even the people from just a few, like a decade ago, like Barack Obama, do not, did not believe in the ideology that you are pretending they believed in now.
00:32:28.740And so your delusional idea of what 90s liberalism actually was, it just bears no actual, you know, no actual identity with the real thing.
00:32:40.640It does not reflect the actual way that liberalism developed and the promises that it made.
00:32:49.200They believe race is first and foremost the thing you should always see everywhere, which I find interesting because that used to be the position of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:32:58.740But again, this was sorry, but this was the position of Barack Obama.
00:33:02.880It was 100% the position of a Barack Obama and is the 100% the position that he passed on to all of his other, you know, friends, all of his followers, all of his students.
00:33:16.900These are the values he passed on everybody.
00:33:18.400Michelle Obama said that she was not really proud of the United States until they elected her husband as president.
00:33:27.400That's not those aren't the words of somebody who is race blind, color blind, who who who never took these things into account.
00:33:35.280Those are the words of somebody who held these things as the core piece of their identity, as a core piece of the identity of their country.
00:33:43.020OK, so again, this just has no actual resemblance to what the real expressed understanding of liberalism was in the 90s, back to Martin Luther King Jr., all the way up to Barack Obama.
00:33:59.500Sorry, this is just completely insane.
00:34:06.520So, again, you can have that position, but don't say that's a liberal position.
00:34:13.200You're doing something very different.
00:34:15.020I think the idea behind it, I think I understand their idea.
00:34:18.840The idea is that the society is imbalanced.
00:34:22.520And so in order to address that imbalance, you're going to prop up as many minorities as possible, make as many opportunities for minorities as possible and get it to a position where there are like white people are minority.
00:34:38.020So, Joe, it's the nail on the head here, right?
00:34:42.280I mean, this is what is the understanding, right?
00:34:48.220This is the woke mission about how this problem will be solved.
00:34:52.380So everyone with eyeballs in their head looks at society and says society is unequal, right?
00:35:00.800We look at our society as it is, and we say society is unequal.
00:35:06.000Now, there can only be a few explanations for why society is unequal, why there are continued, you know, systemic or continued differences throughout society that we see reflected even across groups, right?
00:35:23.780And the only answers can be, well, either there is a racism, there's a hatred, there's a systemic problem, there's something in the actual structure of the society that is specifically elevating one group and holding another group down.
00:35:43.340Or for whatever reason, one group is continually outperforming and other groups are not one, you know, some groups are performing better, some groups are performing worse.
00:35:55.940And that is just the way in Americratic society that things will fall.
00:36:01.580And unfortunate as that truth might be, like, that's just kind of how society is going to be if you're going to base everything on kind of ability, outcomes, those kind of things, right?
00:36:11.720And so you have to look at that and say, which one of those is it going to be?
00:36:17.420Now, the left, of course, has a very easy answer.
00:36:20.780Oh, well, it's just this, it's the system, right?
00:36:24.520There's it's the way that the system is laid out.
00:36:26.760Country hates these people trying to destroy these people.
00:36:29.460So it's the system, the way people are organized and the way people end up is entirely based on the system itself.
00:36:45.260And it's a great answer for them because it gives them power, right?
00:36:47.940If that's the truth, if that's the answer, then the government needs a vast amount of power to change the system because it's not just the government, right?
00:36:56.960It's not just the law, right, like specifically racially bigoted laws have been gone for a very long time.
00:37:03.880And even like scholars, even even, you know, you know, social activists and scholars and professors and these kind of things of like, you know, different woke studies will even admit this if you kind of nail them down about it, that it's really hard to find like actual racial discrimination in the law against minority groups.
00:37:23.520In fact, it's usually the other way around if it exists at all.
00:37:28.060And so it's really hard for them to say, oh, well, this exists in the law.
00:37:32.440So if it doesn't exist in the law, that's where we get this.
00:37:34.980You know, that's why we get these Robin DiAngelo books on like whiteness, right?
00:37:38.680Oh, it's a system of whiteness that pervades the entire society because it can't point to any kind of actual legal imbalance in the system.
00:37:45.580And so we kind of need this disembodied bigotry that is just, you know, rife throughout the system.
00:37:52.960And that means that the government needs vast amount of power because if this exists at every part of the system, and again, you know, we can look at these differences.
00:38:26.040Like, they need this vast power to get to basically every social interaction ever in America to make sure it always comes out in a very particular way.
00:38:35.040Like, this is the vision of equality for people who understand the system as the problem, okay?
00:38:42.560But if it's not that, well, then you get into a lot thornier issues, right?
00:38:47.600Because there's a really good argument, and I think a very far argument to be said, that, of course, there are, you know, decades and really hundreds of years of oppression that did come at some level, varying levels throughout history, that made it difficult for many different people to build generational wealth, to get education, to own property, and kind of advance in society.
00:39:15.320And you can say, okay, well, those structures are gone now, right?
00:39:19.880We got rid of those structures now, but the aftereffects of them are going to exist for X amount of time.
00:39:26.780And that was kind of the argument of affirmative action, right?
00:39:31.340This was the basis of affirmative action, even though it's never been popular, people never liked it.
00:39:36.780But this was kind of how it was sold to people, was like, look, we have to acknowledge that Jim Crow and slavery were real, that they were immoral.
00:39:45.320That they have real effects on people's economic situations, education, all of these things, social structures.
00:39:53.160And that, you know, we have to have a certain amount, a certain period, a certain time in which we kind of make an adjustment.
00:40:00.420We artificially hold down those who are doing well in society because maybe they were artificially elevated.
00:40:06.700And we, you know, we raise up artificially those who were once artificially held down, right?
00:40:12.160And so it's okay for the government to put their thumb on the scales to kind of rebalance this for a certain amount of time.
00:40:18.500That's maybe not a great way for the government to do things.
00:40:21.880But at the very least, people understood that argument.
00:40:24.440There's a real connection to a certain amount of kind of historical injustice that was being made there.
00:40:31.640But suddenly it went well outside that, right?
00:40:35.040It wasn't just for African-Americans, those who very directly felt that.
00:40:40.120But it was applied to everyone, right?
00:40:42.200It started applying to women who are like 50% of the population.
00:40:54.480It got applied to gay people and then trans people.
00:40:57.180And so we watched as this, what was once a very specific argument of historical wrong and the kind of things that would be required to undo that.
00:41:09.400And it got expanded to just a huge amount of population.
00:41:12.720And the only people basically who don't fall under it are like straight white males, right?
00:41:18.000And everybody else, you know, we're kind of in that area of getting that benefit.
00:41:24.760And so there also became the question of duration, right?
00:41:29.640Even if it was kept to like a specific group that had specific historical wrongs done to them, like you can't just do this to society in perpetuity.
00:41:38.440Eventually people are going to notice.
00:41:39.920Eventually people are going to ask, hold on, why am I being held down when I never had anything to do with the system?
00:41:45.460My grandparents had, you know, my parents had nothing to do with the system.
00:41:48.700My grandparents had nothing to do with the system.
00:41:50.120I'm suffering generational guilt, I'm paying generational punishment for things I had nothing to do with.
00:41:58.360And eventually too many people who have been held down by the system are going to say, wait, you know, what's going on here?
00:42:04.300And so even if you're going to sell the system of affirmative action to people, you have to sunset it, right?
00:42:09.040There has to be some kind of limitation to how far this goes.
00:42:11.820But it turns out that actually the system was really profitable to the left, right?
00:42:16.420And this is too good of a deal for them that they had built an entire coalition, entire voting blocks on the continued, you know, enforcement of this system.
00:42:28.660And so if they could continue to tell people that this system was necessary decades and decades and decades after, you know, that this is going to be the case.
00:42:36.700I mean, you're eventually, I mean, we're not there yet, but you'll eventually get to the point where there will be no one in, you know, who has a living memory of Jim Crow, right?
00:42:46.620We're not there, but we will eventually get there as to where there is nobody who alive, whoever lived or suffered even under any part of that system.
00:42:57.280And at that point, like, how do you continue to sell this, you know, this affirmative action regime, the civil rights regime to people who have no connection to it, right?
00:43:08.880And this is especially going to be true of, like, new people coming in, right?
00:43:12.760How are they going to be connected to this?
00:43:14.840But the point is that, you know, Joe Rogan is right about, like, what their idea is.
00:43:20.240Well, the system was unequal, and so we have to, like, just hold people down forever.
00:43:25.140We have to, you know, we'll make white people a minority, and that will make it fair.
00:43:35.600Like, there will be a new reason why the government needs to have this power.
00:43:38.540There will be a new reason why the revolution hasn't continued.
00:43:40.640There will be a new enemy for the coalition kind of aim at, right?
00:43:44.300They'll just scapegoat, you know, white people when they're a minority, just like they did when they're a majority.
00:43:49.620The arguments seem flimsy, but they seem flimsy now, right?
00:43:53.180And so, like, they're never going to be able to really look at kind of the understanding of what happened here.
00:44:00.720They're never going to be honest about what happened here because, again, that would require connecting the dots.
00:44:06.080That would require looking at, okay, maybe we're just never going to get to this perfect equality because that's just not how societies function.
00:44:17.960And maybe the liberal revolution that destroyed all of these other parts of society in the name of liberation to get us here were always going to set us up for kind of the woke stuff.
00:44:30.060Because the woke stuff isn't just racial, right?
00:44:58.680And you broke down all of those barriers.
00:45:00.700And you don't have a problem there, right?
00:45:02.760Like, where you're not talking about that.
00:45:04.140And so we can kind of see that, like, Joe Rogan and Bill Maher are always going to be wrong about kind of the relationship between liberalism and wokeness because they have to be.
00:45:15.060Because kind of their personal worth, their understanding of the world, their actions when they were younger, they're all tied in to this continuation, this continued understanding of kind of how the world works and where it was supposed to be.
00:45:30.020And if they actually look back and say, oh, well, maybe destroying religion was a problem, maybe making fun of these people who said we shouldn't be doing drugs in public and you shouldn't have, like, open prostitution and you shouldn't be going out and, you know, breaking every social taboo because those taboos are there for a reason.
00:45:48.660Like, maybe you're part of the problem.
00:45:50.880And now you're just complaining about the inevitable consequences, the inevitable fruits of your actions and saying, oh, how could the world have gotten here?
00:47:12.000And this is something, again, really, that these these kind of centrist guys, you know, the Lindsay's, the vocals, the, you know, the Joe Rogan's, the Bill Maher's, the Barry Weiss's.
00:47:22.180They've got to understand their their their ideology is just on a timer, man.
00:47:26.920Like the like the things that are left that are holding it up are dying in front of them.
00:47:30.980They are pitching a lifestyle that was never sustainable and will only get less and less sustainable as kind of the few people who still hold those values die off.
00:47:40.140But the the the the berries you broke down were essential.
00:51:13.260You know, this is why why Dawkins got pwned is probably Curtis Yarvin's greatest essay.
00:51:18.700This explains exactly this phenomenon of these people who thought that they had just evolved beyond this human need for meaning and truth and religion.
00:51:27.980And wow, looks like it came blaring through the door and came back in a way that was far more dangerous than the thing that you got rid of glow in the dark here again for $10.
00:51:45.040They would still be under foreign control, if not colonized, because all those stupid traditions or communities were dismantled and they got and they got their opium.
00:52:03.140They think, oh, we didn't bring in wokeism.
00:52:05.920Of course you did, because you dismantled all of the things that would have held it back.
00:52:09.600You got rid of all of the things that stood in its place.
00:52:12.960And you created the inevitable victory of this stuff.
00:52:17.020James Burnham said that liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide, is the ideology that will bring about the end of everything we hold dear because it scoops out the ability of a civilization to defend itself.
00:52:30.720If everything is up for debate, if everything is open to discussion, if everything can be challenged, if everything can be dismantled, if everything can be deconstructed, then your society will inevitably get consumed by something else.
00:52:45.520Because, sorry, there is not this neutral marketplace where this stuff just gets hashed out.
00:52:50.600There will be something that floods back in and controls you.
00:52:53.500And now that it's wokeness, you have a problem with it.
00:53:38.540I loved Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and playing Double Dragon when I was a kid and stuff like that.
00:53:44.040But that's all consumerist stuff, right?
00:53:46.040That's not really actually something of value.
00:53:48.460Those things were kind of all that was left after the cultural wasteland had stripped away so much of what it really meant to have a meaning and a culture and a rootedness.
00:53:58.240But, you know, that's when these people kind of saw themselves as Ascended because they were a part of destroying all that stuff.
00:54:04.720Beck's fan 77 here says, isn't it true to say the U.S. only made sense on the traditional Christian morality as its foundation, you know, inalible rights bestowed by God?
00:54:19.640I mean, yeah, so that's certainly for a lot of people's understanding of kind of the U.S. tradition, that is very much the case, that you needed kind of a certain understanding of where rights came from, of how we should treat each other.
00:54:39.340I mean, again, the U.S. founding fathers were very clear, you know, that the United States was owned, that the Constitution was only made to govern the people of the United States if they were a moral or religious people, that it was inadequate to rule other people.
00:54:52.420So I think, you know, in very firm foundation that I don't know if, you know, kind of this form of democracy could have lasted forever, but it's very true that it definitely wasn't going to last as soon as we kind of lost that general kind of Protestant Christian agreement on what our basis was.
00:55:13.480Look, you can only have a democracy, you can only have an open marketplace of ideas if you kind of generally agree, if you have a general understanding of kind of where the floor is on things, what the basis of things are.
00:55:25.860Once that basis is gone, then there's, there's, you're just going to see people heading in farther, farther away, they're going to get, things are going to get more and more partisan, they're going to get more and more angry at each other.
00:55:36.840Sorry, guys, I'm still recovering from a cold here at the, that had kind of the end of last week. So most of it's gone, but my throat is still a little bit raw. So that's why I'm coughing a little bit having to steal drinks of water. But yeah, Bucks fan, I think you're 100% right about kind of what it would have taken for the United States to continue in kind of that path.
00:55:59.620All right, guys, well, I'm going to go ahead and wrap this up before I cough at you too much. Thank you so much for stopping by had a lot of great super chats today. Really appreciate it. Of course, if this is your first time stopping by the channel, please make sure that you go ahead and subscribe. And if you'd like to listen to these broadcasts as podcasts, make sure that you go ahead and subscribe to your Mac entire show on your favorite podcast platform. When you do that, please leave the rating or the review. It really helps with the algorithm. Thanks for coming by guys. And as always, I will talk to you next time.