The Auron MacIntyre Show - September 18, 2026


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00:00:28.480 Hey everybody, how's it going?
00:00:30.000 thanks for joining me this afternoon i've got a great stream with a great guest that i think
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00:00:51.640 to get twenty dollars off today so a republican candidate dared to say the most obvious and
00:00:58.940 incorrect thing that anybody could say about immigration especially in texas and of course
00:01:04.520 this meant that all the democrats and most of the conservatives lost their mind called him a racist
00:01:09.940 condemned him as a nazi and decided that they needed to drive this evil entirely reasonable
00:01:15.660 and obviously true perspective out of the republican party join me today to talk about
00:01:20.820 this is matthew williams the prudentialist thank you so much for coming on man yeah oren thanks
00:01:25.220 so much for having me on. It's always a pleasure. So I wanted to have this conversation with you
00:01:30.220 because I'm in Texas frequently. The Blaze is based out of Dallas. However, I am not a native
00:01:36.620 Texan. You are someone who has lived in the state for many years. You are very familiar with the
00:01:41.780 dynamics there. And I met Beau French, the politician in question, one time, but obviously
00:01:48.700 you're more familiar with what's going on. But before we get to the specifics, I guess we should
00:01:53.080 go ahead and frame this for people who may not have seen uh what was happening so let me share
00:01:57.960 my screen real quick and we can see the tweet that set the world on fire it began the new
00:02:04.880 french and indian war uh bro both french here says i heard ut graduation this year looked like
00:02:11.480 this i can't believe it the problem is now obviously way worse than anyone imagined and of
00:02:16.360 course, if we look at the picture itself, we can see a large number of people, all of whom
00:02:22.600 almost all seem to be of Indian descent, South Asian descent. Interestingly, also carrying what
00:02:30.560 appears to be a jug of milk. Talk a little bit more about that in a second. But obviously,
00:02:37.200 Beau French is making a very correct, you know, just observation here that this crowd is almost
00:02:43.940 entirely of one race. A group that has increased quite drastically in percentages in Texas
00:02:51.200 recently and seems to be dominating many parts of the social situation there in Texas. I've heard
00:02:58.240 this concern from many people, though French is very far from the first person to notice this,
00:03:03.640 what's going on there. But of course, Republicans lost their mind, screamed that this guy is a
00:03:08.560 He was condemned by John Cornyn. He was condemned by multiple people inside the Texas GOP. He was
00:03:15.340 condemned by multiple GOP commentators. This was just going to be the end of the Republican Party
00:03:21.700 as we knew it because this terrible racism is taking over in all directions. Before we get
00:03:28.080 into, I guess, the tweet itself, can you tell people a little bit about Beau French, who he is,
00:03:32.260 what he's doing? Sure. So Beau French is the Republican candidate who is running for the
00:03:38.080 texas railroad commissioner he is an entrepreneur a ceo he's put himself sort of as uh the american
00:03:44.380 first candidate when it comes to sort of republican politics prior to this he was if memory serves the
00:03:49.980 chairman of the tarrant county republican party which even prior to running for office and throwing
00:03:55.600 his name in the hat for the primary which he had upset the incumbent candidate to do so uh he had
00:04:00.900 been known for for making you know similar statements and stating what you and i would
00:04:04.600 very much called the obvious. And he had been considered outspoken. There had been a lot of
00:04:09.000 pressure for him to sort of step down from his chairmanship because of his comments and his
00:04:12.600 tweets. But I think he's been able to successfully turn it around into a well-organized political
00:04:17.900 campaign. And again, it's important to consider that, you know, Texas Railroad Commissioner,
00:04:22.140 the Texas government has sort of this pentarchy of, you know, divided executive roles inside of
00:04:28.440 our state government and per our state constitution. And the Texas Railroad Commissioner is largely in
00:04:33.740 charge of texas's oil and natural gas sort of you know industry and its sector which is a very
00:04:40.140 important you know position to have a republican in especially considering his candidate who is a
00:04:44.860 state rep uh mr representative rosenthal is sort of just like as kooky as it could get who's worked
00:04:51.020 in natural gas in the past but he is someone who's very like pro green new deal very pro james tallarico
00:04:56.620 very much you know it's very famous photo of him wearing a mask that says protect trans kids so
00:05:01.540 you know this is sort of your your choice which way texas do you want to go do you want to go
00:05:05.860 with like the crazy uh you know let's let's trun out the kids kind of person versus someone who
00:05:10.580 states the obvious and this is where who beau french is as a candidate i've had the pleasure
00:05:14.180 of seeing him speak i've had the pleasure of meeting him um on more than one occasion and
00:05:18.860 i think that he'll do great in this position so it's all the more important that you are registered
00:05:22.260 to vote in texas so that you can vote later in november um all the more important reason for you
00:05:27.500 do so is so these kind of conversations can happen because if beau french doesn't win you're going to
00:05:32.540 see a lot of mainstream conservative advocates like eric erickson and countless others say
00:05:38.540 this has been rejected at the ballot box and we are not going to have conversations like
00:05:42.700 this we're all going to sing kumbaya we're all going to sing you know choosing texas by ella
00:05:47.420 langley and supporting the longhorns despite the fact that the university of texas uh ut austin is
00:05:53.420 It's just not really representative of Texas at all.
00:05:57.760 So you said something there that's really important, and I think people need to grasp
00:06:01.700 what's going on here.
00:06:03.800 A lot of people know the midterms are not going too well for Republicans.
00:06:08.440 We can see the polling numbers.
00:06:10.540 We can see the economic numbers.
00:06:12.220 We know where things are going.
00:06:14.520 You know, I'm hoping for as many Republicans to win as possible.
00:06:17.980 I hope that the Republicans are able to, by some miracle, maintain control of both chambers
00:06:23.080 of the Congress, but I am very, very doubtful that will happen. And so a lot of people are
00:06:28.200 preparing for the loss. And one of the things they're doing is they're running around and
00:06:32.620 blaming people who are on more of the America first right saying, well, you guys are too
00:06:39.900 radical. You're too crazy. You're like the DSA of the right. And so if your positions are out 1.00
00:06:45.440 in front, we're going to lose. And so even though they are really going to lose because of the war
00:06:50.440 in Iran and affordability and gas prices. What they want to do is spin a story where it was
00:06:55.940 actually American first positions that brought us here. And of course, this feeds into the larger
00:07:00.380 neocon effort to unseat J.D. Vance as the heir apparent of the Republican Party to capture back
00:07:05.760 the party from MAGA and return the neocons to power. This is all the same thing. Don't be
00:07:12.320 confused. There's no there's no stealth game being played in the background. OK, like the neocons are
00:07:18.860 trying to retake the party they are trying to frame a narrative where america first uh maga was
00:07:25.320 too radical needs to be paired back i mean trump is fine we like trump because we have to like
00:07:29.840 trump now but like everybody else is basically toxic and we need to root out every aspect of
00:07:34.880 this movement and so they want people like beau french to lose like they actively want to lose
00:07:39.700 the republicans want to lose these seats so they can point to this movement and say well this lost
00:07:46.580 it for us. It wasn't the fact that we couldn't pass any bills like the SAVE Act. It's not that
00:07:51.560 we committed ourselves to a foreign war on behalf of a foreign country that devastated
00:07:56.020 gas prices in the United States. It's not any of that stuff. It's because people said mean
00:08:03.060 words about immigrants, and that's why we're going to lose this election. And so we need to purge
00:08:08.540 these people out. And so that's why I thought it was so important that Beau French stood his ground
00:08:12.640 here guys i think that you know a lot of people ask for good candidates they ask for people who
00:08:17.960 are going to have a spine uh but then they don't do anything about it well you've got one now
00:08:22.860 beau french brought up something he knew was going to be controversial he stood his ground on it he
00:08:28.280 did not back down despite all the people who are attacking him about this and it was very clear that
00:08:33.740 it was the you know impulse of the republican party in the in texas to just purge this guy
00:08:40.080 And instead, not only did he stand strong, but a lot of people stood behind him on social media.
00:08:46.340 There were large ratios of a lot of people who are trying to denounce Beau Fridge because everybody can see what's going on here.
00:08:54.860 We had one woman who's running for something in Texas, some Indian woman.
00:08:59.520 And she said, oh, look, you look at this picture and it's so diverse.
00:09:03.900 It's just a bunch of diverse Texans. 1.00
00:09:05.640 And you think that's the problem. 1.00
00:09:06.820 That's what Texas looks like now. 0.91
00:09:08.320 it's like well there's a lot being revealed there like one when you say diverse you mean just no
00:09:13.780 white people in the picture because they're all south asian like that's the whole point right it's
00:09:17.580 not like oh there were a couple indian people scattered through this audience no it was a
00:09:23.200 concerted block of people who were only sitting next to each other because they shared the same
00:09:27.900 ethnicity there's no diversity in that photo and when you say well this is just what texas looks
00:09:33.300 like? Well, why does it look that way? Is it an accident? Did we randomly just drop a couple 0.70
00:09:39.720 million people from India into the middle of Texas by some spacecraft? Or was there a policy,
00:09:45.980 a decision made that actually brought us here? Is it just an act of God or is someone responsible
00:09:50.820 for the demographic transformation? But maybe some people haven't been to Texas. And so,
00:09:57.080 Matt, I'll let you talk a little bit about this. I mean, when I go
00:09:59.700 to dallas it it looks like mumbai half the time you know you you are surrounded by indian stores
00:10:07.260 indian restaurants uh everyone behind a counter is an indian uh you are seeing uh hindu temples
00:10:13.700 popping up in texas building giant statues to monkey gods uh i mean it's very clear that you
00:10:20.340 have a massive indian population in texas and they are not just like coming in and converting
00:10:26.280 to prostatism and starting to wear like you know baseball caps and t-shirts and drive f-150s like
00:10:33.600 they are wearing their own ethnic clothing they're maintaining their religion they are living in like 0.52
00:10:40.400 cloistered ethnic enclaves uh they are promoting each other only working with each other like this
00:10:46.680 this is a transformational experience in the kind of demographic makeup of texas yeah so i think
00:10:54.700 that there's a lot of ground to cover here. So I'll try and start from where you had just left
00:10:59.880 off, and then we'll work our way backward. So I mean, according to the Pew Research Center,
00:11:04.080 it says in 2025, it's about 570,000 residents in the state of Texas are of some Indian American or
00:11:10.600 Indian descent. I'm sure that number is much higher. I don't know if that includes student
00:11:15.100 visas, H-1Bs, everything that has been sort of covered in the administration, but also over the
00:11:21.980 course of the last several years um and sort of online politics which has been emphasizing that
00:11:27.220 while yes there is obvious other demographic issues to concern because about 40 percent two
00:11:32.340 fifths of texas if not more is hispanic or latino which of course doesn't really mean anything is
00:11:37.880 that such a broad category but uh you know that's the second highest concentration of uh indians in
00:11:43.600 the united states i think outside of like california and specifically sort of silicon
00:11:46.940 valley and san francisco um so with that being said i think it's sort of important to consider
00:11:51.340 that you're right if you go to places anywhere inside the dfw metroplex from carolton to irving
00:11:57.500 the south lake area uh even as far as north is sort of the lewisville denton county of course
00:12:03.820 there's unt there um there's going to be a lot of that present like there's a i went to a half
00:12:08.400 price books a couple of weeks ago and right next to it was this large explicitly you know indian
00:12:13.340 desi marketplace that was like a grocery store explicitly for indians and you know it was just
00:12:18.460 catering to that customer base. And so that's a big part of the demographic transformation
00:12:22.300 of the North Texas and the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex area. A lot of this has to do with
00:12:27.140 student visas. A lot of this also has to do with the fact that people can come in on visas and
00:12:31.760 then bring family with them. And the issue of chain migration, not just that we've talked about
00:12:37.180 with the Darien Gap and people coming in through asylum claims and the rest, but through the
00:12:42.480 existing visa processes that have been on the books for years, as allowed the North Texas area
00:12:48.160 to see a radical transformation and its demographics. And this is something that
00:12:52.560 has been discussed, not just by Beau French, but by countless others in the state of Texas.
00:12:57.080 And it's sort of important to consider that the Republican Party and sort of the conservative
00:13:01.080 movement in Texas is not this large monolithic entity. I mean, you do have a lot of the former
00:13:08.100 John Cornyn or the George W. Bush and the George P. Bush types that had a large sway of influence
00:13:13.780 over Republican politics where we're acting like it's 2000 and, you know, Democrats are never going
00:13:19.500 to get an office in forever and acting like it's, you know, the early 2000s again, where, you know,
00:13:24.280 it seemed like Republican supermajority was just never going to go away. And now when we look at
00:13:28.940 the polling data, largely in part due to, I think, mainly demographic change, where, you know,
00:13:33.960 two safe red seats in Texas for the Senate have had very close contests over the last several years,
00:13:40.580 whether it be Ted Cruz versus Beto O'Rourke in 2018 or now more recently with James Tallarico
00:13:45.840 and Ken Paxton and again all the more reason to bring these guys over the finish line so that the
00:13:52.580 John Cornyn types of the world are in the dustbin of electoral history but also because the younger
00:13:58.600 conservative faction the you know like the young Republicans of Texas and the young conservatives
00:14:02.560 of Texas as divided as they can be on a variety of issues I you know I talk with a lot of activists
00:14:08.780 i talk with a lot of you know party affiliates and auxiliaries anyone under the age of 30 knows
00:14:13.900 how bad it is and they make me feel like a moderate sometimes and they're doing everything
00:14:18.680 that they can within their power to make sure that these guys are winning so i think it's important
00:14:23.740 to throw them the the bone and the credit that they deserve which is trying to make sure that
00:14:29.320 this charade of the overton window is put away and what we see is the little man behind the curtain
00:14:36.280 which is that there's identity politics for everyone except actual Americans and actual
00:14:40.620 Texans. So overall, I think that when we take a look at this, Beau French's tweet, of course,
00:14:45.180 highlighted just an obvious issue, which is that it's obviously worse than anyone had imagined.
00:14:50.480 In UT Austin, from 2012 to 2025, white enrollment dropped over 15,000 students. Hispanic enrollment
00:14:56.980 jumped by over 35,000. And Asian enrollment jumped by 13,215 individuals. And so, I mean,
00:15:04.140 just within a short period of time, we're only talking 13 years from the second, you know,
00:15:08.700 the election year of Barack Obama's second term to 2025, the first year of Trump too,
00:15:14.540 that this is what we've witnessed. And I mean, it's not just the Indian issue that we're dealing
00:15:19.460 with here in Texas, but it's also now how do we balance, of course, America, Texas being a majority
00:15:25.100 minority state? I mean, between Indians, we have Hispanics of all kinds, not to mention the
00:15:31.040 unfettered immigration that the biden administration had unleashed and so i think that the republican
00:15:35.360 party in texas and large extent republicans and conservatives all over the state are trying to
00:15:39.700 reconcile with what do we do with this mess electorally and this isn't even on top of the
00:15:44.360 fact that you know in the last two major presidential elections you had the rio grande
00:15:49.220 valley which has historically voted uh democrat for decades swung for trump in massive numbers
00:15:55.420 to a point where in the 2020 election you had all these articles come out about multiracial
00:16:00.340 whiteness and, you know, white passing Hispanics and things like that. So it's a very complicated
00:16:05.800 issue, but I think Beau French just highlights the very obvious thing that so many people online
00:16:10.400 have been talking about and other politicos have been writing about for years, which is that
00:16:14.660 unfettered, you know, immigration and by extension, demographic change and replacement of a native
00:16:19.600 population will eventually disenfranchise you and your children and make it electorally impossible
00:16:25.660 for you to ever stem the tide or reverse the flow once that reaches a critical threshold and a
00:16:31.400 critical mass, which is why every election from the federal level down to the state offices
00:16:36.360 has been more important than ever to make sure that all sorts of policies and programs that DHS
00:16:42.280 has are still in place and can still be enacted from sheriff's departments, DAs, and so on,
00:16:48.980 to make sure that we're cooperating with ICE, that we're cooperating with DHS. Because if not,
00:16:54.020 people like you know if hinojosa wins for example against greg abbott which i don't think she will
00:16:59.700 um she would happily you know make texas no longer cooperate with ice and things like that so these
00:17:04.880 are real consequences and we're witnessing the you know logical conclusion of demographic change
00:17:11.060 and immigration into the united states i mean john cornyn famously had tweeted out i think he
00:17:15.080 deleted it later on because he had gotten attacked online for it but you know welcome to the indian
00:17:19.280 century and of course you know greg abbott's done the same in supporting sort of uh texas indian
00:17:24.820 relations but it just kind of goes to show that in a democracy ethnic blocks are important and
00:17:30.800 you're gonna have to cater to the groups that donate to you and line your pocketbook 0.84
00:17:33.720 it's so important to get people to understand this but they just refuse and this is where
00:17:40.640 the republicans really earn their reputation as controlled opposition so texas the story of texas
00:17:48.080 is the story of demographics being destiny right like the only reason that texas is part of the
00:17:54.820 united states is that it was sparsely populated mexico couldn't defend it they large allowed a
00:18:00.660 large amount of american immigration into the area thinking that the bodies were what mattered
00:18:05.680 and then ultimately the americans that moved in there well they didn't want to be ruled by mexico
00:18:10.780 they didn't want to be ruled in the way that mexicans rule and so they decided that they
00:18:15.500 would ultimately break away. The fact that you had enough Americans move into that area to 0.99
00:18:21.280 change the demographic makeup and therefore change the future of political representation
00:18:26.500 in Texas is what makes it American today. It's what defines the fact that it's here and not in
00:18:32.280 Mexico. And so the idea that moving a large number of people into an area and having them dominate 0.69
00:18:39.520 the political environment changes the destiny, the outcome of that area. Well, that's literally
00:18:45.680 baked into the story of Texas. And so when we look at the Republican Party, they love, of course,
00:18:51.780 we know they love to court groups that won't vote for them. Every year they want to win the black
00:18:55.620 vote, even though the black vote is monolithically for the Democrats. And this is true of almost 0.95
00:19:00.900 every ethnic minority group. They almost always vote overwhelmingly for the left. And this is
00:19:06.340 just as true for indians as anyone else they vote on average about 70 percent left wing uh they are
00:19:12.460 very supportive of leftists in general and so the idea that bringing a large number of people in
00:19:19.520 like forget the culture forget everything else right just mercenary politics just basic you know
00:19:25.420 political future of the gop if you want to survive as a party bringing in a bunch of people who vote
00:19:32.800 70% for the other party is suicidal, like clearly. And we're already seeing that demographic shift 0.60
00:19:38.340 impact what's happening in Texas, impact the election, the electability of Republicans.
00:19:43.980 And yet still, you cannot get Republicans to take their own side, or at least what is supposed to
00:19:49.100 be their own side, not the side of Americans. They think it's more important to whinge about
00:19:54.300 racism as if that's going to win any of these Indian voters over, as if a single one of them
00:19:59.640 is going to care and you know the other arguments we're already hearing is well you know now there
00:20:03.760 are so many indians and in texas you can't afford to lose them as a voting block which is of course 1.00
00:20:08.700 always the poisonous poisonous logic of immigration because it says oh well you know we have to let 1.00
00:20:14.440 these people in here and once they're in it says oh well we have to cater to them now because 1.00
00:20:18.060 there's too many of them we can't send them all back we can't get rid of them and so it's always
00:20:21.800 this trap the minute you let the door in you're automatically creating a political block that
00:20:25.600 will be catered to. And so you think for their own political survival, Republicans will push
00:20:29.960 back against this. But instead, they think the most important thing is to denounce anyone who
00:20:33.860 notices that they're basically engineering losses in Texas for the next few decades.
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00:20:57.440 well and i think this is just the things coming home to roost that you know over the last several
00:21:05.180 years that we've witnessed not just you know outside immigration coming into texas but also
00:21:10.920 as well we've had a lot of people coming in from california and it's important to consider that
00:21:15.200 because of the demographic changes internally inside texas there were more california transplants
00:21:20.700 that voted for Ted Cruz and his reelection campaign in 2018, then there were native Texans
00:21:26.280 to the area who were already pre-existing Texas residents who didn't move. Now, is that in part
00:21:31.060 due to demographic change? Yes, it's also partially due to the fact that Ted Cruz has got his own
00:21:35.240 likability issues and that he certainly needs, I think, some better PR on his front. But and also
00:21:40.400 the fact that, you know, there was a lot of energy behind O'Rourke, not just from inside of Texas's
00:21:44.540 large Hispanic coalition of voters, but also because there was just a lot of outside money
00:21:48.380 pouring into it and so so beau french i think has kicked the hornet's nest on a very important
00:21:53.540 discussion which is something that again is not radical it's not you know this extremist thing
00:21:59.620 i mean it's the same sort of things that the young republicans of texas's chairman had said
00:22:05.060 just a week ago which was that assimilation is not possible at scale and that you are going to lose
00:22:11.440 you know the the culture and the heritage that exists when these people are brought in
00:22:15.480 And so I think that, again, we're moving ourselves in a direction that needs to be taken. And I'm glad to hear that from people younger than myself, younger than you, hearkening on these issues. But at the same time, you are right.
00:22:27.260 There's a lot of this where it's like, well, we will have our own multi-ethnic working coalition, and this is sort of the kind of conversation that echoes back to the post-2012 autopsy that the Republican Party had put together, which is that we'll just allow ourselves to be a little more watered down on the issues that get the base excited and the hopes that we'll lure people over.
00:22:49.840 And in the history of political coalitions in the United States, every time that this happens, the majority inevitably becomes disenfranchised and beholden to the minority part of the coalition's interests.
00:23:03.240 And I think that becomes incredibly important for us to consider when we look at this situation.
00:23:08.080 But, I mean, again, as we've witnessed throughout the news, you know, not just besides, you know, the tweet that came from Beau French.
00:23:15.340 I mean, Travis Kelsey, you know, had famously just got reported today that like he had got lost, like lost millions, tens of millions of dollars in a Ponzi scheme to an illegal Indian immigrant to the United States. 0.68
00:23:26.860 Someone who shouldn't begin here scamming the rich and famous and scamming, you know, people out of millions of dollars.
00:23:32.840 This does not even include the billions of dollars that are expropriated from American citizens, primarily white American senior citizens from Indian based call centers. 0.95
00:23:41.680 And yet this is the relationship that we have with them. 0.98
00:23:44.000 And I think that it's just borders down to the something that you and Carl Benjamin had talked about and countless others, this idea like demographic sovereignty, like on a national defense level, only the people that identify with the country who consider themselves American are going to stand up and defend her.
00:23:57.820 We can take a look at this and we take a look at Iraq war casualties. A lot of people like to also do the go back in time to the Civil War. Some like to go back even further as a proud son of the American Revolution. I can definitely understand and relate to that.
00:24:08.640 But at the same time, like you cannot have vital sectors of the economy, which like tech is an excellent example, education, health care, AI being ran by people that have no identity and no sense of belonging to the United States. 0.84
00:24:23.620 If all four of your grandparents are from America, then you have a pretty good idea where you're going to vote. But if you're first gen or second gen off the boat, odds are you're probably not going to be voting that way and you don't identify with the country because America's powers that be have identified that the United States, its European and its Christian heritage and its culture, its Anglo common law traditions are meant to be seen as evil and oppressive. 0.74
00:24:49.680 there's been you know new museum pieces out you know decrying the complicated figure of george
00:24:55.060 washington for being some sort of bigot or being some sort of you know uh feared you know killer
00:25:00.380 of indians and it's just like this is how we're portraying it this is that the founding is bad
00:25:04.700 the history of texas is bad um sam houston is evil all the sort of sort of other stuff that
00:25:09.880 we would have considered uh and now it's just that you know well as long as they're wearing
00:25:13.860 like a longhorn t-shirt and they're you know two-stepping like this is totally fine and
00:25:18.420 I think that the commercialization of state and national identity to be just basically the Dallas Cowboys, the Astros and Buc-ee's is obviously deadly and terrible thing because it represents the death of a culture and the death of a heritage that people should cling to.
00:25:34.220 But it also means that a lot of people have just inevitably become this dispossessed majority in the wake of pursuing new business deals, greater expansion and trade, all for the sake of either the almighty dollar, obeying the gods, the copybook headings and so on. 0.84
00:25:48.660 So, I mean, I like you had said at the beginning or in like both French said nothing that's controversial and it's good to, you know, kick, you know, this hornet's nest, because, again, I think that it got a lot of people wanting to support this guy, which I mean, most people do not pay attention to statewide office races like this on a national level, which I'm glad that that's, you know, more tensions being focused on it.
00:26:09.380 But also at the same time that we need to seriously consider what are we what are we doing here?
00:26:14.620 Because the greatest thing so far that we've witnessed on an administrative level has been the reduction of legal immigration along with the border wall and everything else.
00:26:23.080 Now, that has to be continued on the state level as much as humanly possible.
00:26:26.640 And that means that they can never wield power.
00:26:29.140 And unfortunately, due to demographic change, that is becoming a potential reality where they could have power.
00:26:35.280 and all the more reason that this issue needs to be front and center for anyone who's wanting to
00:26:40.080 seriously consider elected office. I mean, Trump and Beau French, I think, have set standards for
00:26:44.360 future Republicans and future conservative politicos from here on out. Yeah, Beau French
00:26:50.840 is definitely the future. I made a post on Twitter saying, guys, if you think Beau French
00:26:56.040 is radical, you don't understand anything. Beau French is the moderate option here. He is the
00:27:02.620 off-ramp. He is the thing that comes before the radicalism comes. He's giving you an opportunity
00:27:07.840 to solve this problem while it's still solvable. If you think he's radical, just talk to any
00:27:13.600 young Texan and figure out where things are going. I think we both saw this debate coming.
00:27:21.860 We both knew it was inevitable because obviously the Republican Party has only paid lip service to
00:27:27.760 any kind of immigration restriction for a very long time. Donald Trump was the first one to
00:27:33.300 really take it seriously, actually close the border. We were told forever that closing the
00:27:38.440 border was impossible, even by Republicans. And then Trump administration in the second term did
00:27:43.540 it in just a few months, for which they receive lots of credit. And so the Trump administration
00:27:49.660 kind of turned that on their head. Okay, illegal immigration we know is done, or at least it should
00:27:55.900 be done but now the question is legal immigration right because we started to realize oh it isn't
00:28:01.400 just the bad parts about immigration aren't just the procedure right like when we were only opposing
00:28:06.920 illegal immigration that was very safe for republicans because they could treat it as a
00:28:10.220 procedural issue someone didn't do the paperwork someone didn't get a stamp on the paperwork
00:28:15.080 someone didn't go through the process and that's the problem if you skip the process that's when
00:28:20.480 you're an issue if you're a violator of the law that's when you're an issue so we don't have to
00:28:24.500 talk about any of the other aspects of immigration, any of the other negative aspects of immigration,
00:28:28.220 we just talk about the illegality. Well, once you close the border, that talking point is gone.
00:28:34.980 And then people look around, they still realize that their country is being transformed, that
00:28:39.040 their culture is being replaced. And they have more questions. Okay, why am I competing with
00:28:44.240 all of these people from across the world for jobs in the United States? Why is it my job to
00:28:49.180 compete with every guy in India who wants a tech job? Why am I suddenly seeing these people replace
00:28:55.740 me in universities and boardrooms? Like, is this really what America is? Like, what is an America?
00:29:03.500 And that question is a lot harder for people to discuss because now we have to go beyond legality
00:29:08.680 and we have to talk about the harder facts of immigration. That when you change the people,
00:29:14.860 you change the culture. That America is not just an idea. It's not just a set of principles. It's
00:29:19.780 not some floating ephemeral thing. It's a group of people living historically, living in a way
00:29:26.640 that their ancestors did. That's what makes America, America. And that doesn't mean that
00:29:31.640 other people can't weave into that story, can't join that at some level, though I do think we 0.95
00:29:36.380 need an immigration moratorium for at least a generation. But the ultimate core of America
00:29:42.660 is something definable. And when you start to define it, people get very, very scared.
00:29:47.540 Because as you said, you know, for all these Republicans, as much as they want to pretend
00:29:50.960 it's not the case, they just treat America as an economic zone. America is a t-shirt. America
00:29:56.300 is a sports team. America is consumption habits. America is what you watch on TV.
00:30:03.060 And that is insufficient. That is treating America as transactional. That is just as
00:30:09.800 hollow and empty is saying America needs to be some multicultural disaster. Nobody wants to live 1.00
00:30:16.820 in a place like that. Everybody wants their own homeland, their own place where they can live
00:30:22.780 among people who agree with them, who live in the same way that they do, who have the same values
00:30:28.340 that they do. And when you bring in people who have no connection to the history, no connection
00:30:35.240 to the story, this changes things radically. And as you brought up, it's even more important with
00:30:40.880 perhaps the legal immigration, because in many cases, legal immigrants aren't just driving
00:30:46.200 trucks or putting roofs on or picking fruit. They're moving into positions of power. They're
00:30:52.320 moving into educated positions, boardrooms. They are becoming politicians. They're becoming an elite
00:30:59.460 class. And if your elite class is inherently connected to foreign interests, if they are still
00:31:06.340 doing caste meetups in the United States for their different Indian castes, if they are still
00:31:12.960 building Hindu temples with giant monkey god statues, if they are permanently altering the 0.86
00:31:21.080 way that you live your life in the United States and they're in an elite class, then they are even 1.00
00:31:26.260 a bigger problem than the large number of illegals who are flooding in, but at least 0.53
00:31:31.040 weren't taking positions of power. Yeah, I mean, this is where I think that the rhetoric sometimes 0.96
00:31:39.500 where we say, like, with regards to bringing in business or legal immigration can sometimes be
00:31:46.200 used as a very effective cover to where we will tell our population or we'll tell voters that,
00:31:51.560 you know, this is just part of, you know, engaging in free market and international trade and
00:31:55.140 remaining competitive and making america you know texas or america the number one place to do
00:31:59.380 business but that also means that the bill of goods i'm being sold isn't necessarily just the
00:32:05.260 the main issue of oh well you know it's good for us this is economic growth that means jobs and 0.94
00:32:09.600 development no that usually means that like there will be an ethnic cartel that i now have to deal
00:32:13.840 with if i want to get a job or if i want to compete against these individuals so on and so forth
00:32:18.220 and they're always going to back the the candidate that's going to ensure that that you know grift
00:32:24.320 still keeps running and that becomes i think a really big problem um on the immigration front
00:32:29.060 because you're absolutely right like illegal immigration is the problem i think that trump
00:32:32.940 brand came down there and so that's the obvious fact of the matter and he wasn't the first person
00:32:37.220 to do this uh in our lifetimes but he won and he succeeded and he has created a tour de force where
00:32:42.800 immigration restrictionism is in vogue again we have candidates running on it you have people
00:32:47.960 like beau french people like brandon gill who are openly running on the issue that it's not just
00:32:52.900 illegal immigration. It's legal immigration as well. There are, of course, conversations about
00:32:57.180 an immigration moratorium. I think you could take it even further, go the Thomas Aquinas route if
00:33:01.380 you want, make it three generations, and then let's see how we figure it out. And I mean, what
00:33:04.860 made America, you know, people who would come in here and become quote unquote American, especially 0.91
00:33:09.460 those during like our Ellis Island waves of immigration, was one that we did not have the
00:33:13.840 social welfare and the handout system that we did. Like a third of the people that came to this 0.95
00:33:18.060 country went back because they couldn't hack it. And then secondly, there was still an American 0.92
00:33:21.960 frontier that you could go on and conquer and try and become something about it this is what
00:33:27.120 frederick jackson turner wrote about where the frontier was the great americanizer you would
00:33:31.360 stop being german you put on your moccasins and you would try and figure out make a way for
00:33:34.760 yourself in the frontier and if you did congratulations you made it you're an american
00:33:38.640 now i'm oversimplifying it but that very kind of language is used in there uh in his writings about
00:33:44.020 the importance of the frontier in american history and so now where the frontier is either
00:33:48.520 on the tech front or we're discussing our return to space and so on, America has the question now
00:33:54.880 where it's the frontier again. And it's the question of like, well, who are we and what
00:33:59.260 are we going to be as a country? And overall, I think this is the conversation that needs to be
00:34:03.760 had going forward for all debates and all discussions. And I mean, the real nice thing
00:34:08.100 is, is that those that are proclaiming that this question about heritage or who is an American
00:34:12.800 is an overrated and counterproductive sort of conversation to have. They're the ones that are
00:34:19.100 getting booted at the ballot box. This is the reason why John Cornyn is not going to be on the
00:34:24.320 ballot this November. He was sent home for Ken Paxton. He did not deliver on the Save America
00:34:29.480 Act, which would ensure that Republicans would win elections ad infinitum for the next like at
00:34:34.220 least two or three election cycles. And all this comes to show that if you're not willing to stand
00:34:38.940 up for the people that have been told to vote for you because there is no other option there will be 0.87
00:34:44.140 consequences and this is the attitude that we need to be having not being so morose like yes i'm
00:34:49.100 realistic enough to know that things are pretty dire i live in the lone star state i know that
00:34:53.760 dallas has turned into the lone star state like i get it but at the same time like this should be
00:34:58.760 your wake-up call to anyone listening that there are ways in which you can hold these people
00:35:03.820 accountable i'm not just talking about the electoral process i'm talking about getting
00:35:07.860 involved. I'm talking about getting engaged and making sure that you have the ability to wield
00:35:12.560 the levers of power yourself. And it's better to do it now than later, because again, demographic
00:35:17.480 change is very real. We've witnessed it and how it's played out in elections here in Texas and
00:35:22.520 in countless other places, as well as across the world, including Sweden and their recent elections.
00:35:27.620 So all the more reasoned that we need to be paying attention and having these conversations
00:35:31.060 from here on out, because at the end of the day, if we refuse to allow ourselves to simply say,
00:35:36.460 well, this is how it's going to be. I'm always going to have the boot on my back.
00:35:39.140 Then that's going to just create, I think, a feedback loop of learned helplessness. When at
00:35:43.500 the end of the day, there are people who are brave enough to use their face and their name and to get
00:35:48.080 involved and to get engaged and to run for office and to do those things. And that's where we need
00:35:53.100 to really be levying our support right now, especially because I want the guys that want
00:35:57.660 to restrict immigration to win. I want those guys to be the mainstream position, to be the
00:36:03.760 moderate position the sensible centrist position if you will and i think that's the way going
00:36:08.220 forward that it needs to be approached yeah again i think the fact that double that beau
00:36:14.060 french doubled down on his position here and got so much grassroots support for doing so
00:36:18.700 really matters i think that's why so much of the conservative establishment is terrified
00:36:23.420 of kind of how this broke down because they recognize they're losing control of this narrative
00:36:29.600 they no longer have the iron grip they can no longer say the magic word and scare everybody
00:36:35.020 back into hiding that said i don't feel like we'd be doing this right if we didn't respond
00:36:40.440 to ben shapiro here uh so here is what ben shapiro had to say about this incident from
00:36:50.060 morning hockey with a cup of coffee to timbits and road trips tims and canadian tire have always
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00:37:11.840 to be upset that people from different ethnic backgrounds enjoy college football? A viral
00:37:15.740 photo of like, I don't know, 30 brown students from the stands of this weekend's UT Ohio game
00:37:20.000 went viral when a random low-level local GOP candidate said kind of gross things about their
00:37:24.540 skin color after we review why football is great i'm gonna run through some stats a couple things
00:37:29.700 first beau french never said anything about their skin color like literally absolutely nothing about
00:37:34.380 it so ben shapiro is just telling a bald face lie here without any shame he is completely lying to
00:37:39.480 his audience about what beau french said they're gonna watch this and they're gonna believe
00:37:43.440 something entirely different because ben shapiro is acting as a leftist he is asserting things that
00:37:48.640 are entirely untrue in the hopes of attaching some evil cause of racism to beau french's actions
00:37:54.940 and he expects his audience to pay little attention to what actually happened so he's
00:38:00.200 hoping to manipulate them i want to make it clear ben shapiro knows he's lying here he's lying on
00:38:05.060 purpose to his audience to manipulate them because he wants them to believe what the left believes 0.98
00:38:09.480 that america is full of evil racists and uh you know they they want to purge every brown person 0.99
00:38:14.880 from the system. Like, it's just leftist rhetoric. That's all Ben Shapiro is engaging in. 1.00
00:38:20.560 UT's demographics, Texas Senate candidate Ken Paxton's reaction, and why James Tallarico is
00:38:25.020 actually the most racist candidate of them all. There's a person named Beau French. He's running
00:38:29.620 for railroad commissioner in Texas, and he snapped a picture of UT students who are celebrating
00:38:36.180 their miraculous win over Ohio. So for those who missed the game, basically, Texas was down 20
00:38:43.380 points in the last quarter and archie manning came back 21 points in the fourth quarter incredible
00:38:48.580 comeback and the i wanted to leave ben's you know uh sports ball analysis here an insightful
00:38:55.680 commentary to be sure cameras flashed to the crowd and one part of the university of texas
00:39:00.040 at austin crowd was pretty clearly heavily indian it's a lot of people who have heritage that is not
00:39:09.420 white right that that is what is is happening in this photo it looks like some people of hispanic
00:39:14.840 origin some people of indian origin maybe some people of arabic origin just ethnically speaking
00:39:19.800 so beau french tweeted out a picture of this so you'll notice that beau that he says oh well it's
00:39:25.760 just a group of of of people in there you know when he never actually assesses why are they a
00:39:32.100 group again it's not like there were two or three indians or even several indians scattered throughout
00:39:37.520 a crowd in which they were sitting with you know a bunch of native texans or something like that
00:39:43.780 it's all the same people it's all sitting together why are they all sitting together ben
00:39:49.000 what's what's the reason that they're concentrated there could it be that they're segregating
00:39:54.320 themselves by their own ethnicity at this event could that be why people are noticing because i
00:40:00.540 don't think anyone would have taken this picture and shared it if it was three indian guys peppered
00:40:05.640 in to the rest of the student body it's a concentration of people who clearly identify
00:40:11.160 with each other because of their skin color and beaufrance said nothing about that by the way
00:40:19.360 that's all i got for oh no go ahead oh sorry i didn't know if you had some if you have something
00:40:24.000 i didn't know if we were done with ben shapiro oh no yeah we got we got just a little more ben
00:40:28.240 he's got he's got a few more words for us it looked like this i didn't believe it the problem
00:40:32.880 now obviously far worse than anyone imagined now a few things about this one these are not people
00:40:39.980 who are there flying the mexican flag or the palestinian flag or protesting for gaza the only
00:40:46.400 that's what i wanted to leave it okay okay so ben thinks that the only reason you should have
00:40:53.280 any objection to foreigners being in your country and taking over your institutions
00:40:58.160 if they happen to oppose Israel that's like that's like the only thing you can come up off
00:41:03.380 the top of his head it's not like they're pro-Gaza or waving a Palestinian flag as if those are the
00:41:10.560 only possible reasons you could notice demographic change and its deleterious impact and this is
00:41:16.280 something that Ben has said over and over again later on social media it's like oh well you know
00:41:20.700 ultimately I don't see the difference here I don't understand I promise you if we you know 0.97
00:41:26.040 dropped 10 million indians into uh into israel and they were all like very serious converts to 0.86
00:41:33.440 judaism you know believed in the whole thing but they started taking all the spots in israeli 0.73
00:41:38.460 universities and israeli businesses and really israeli media then would suddenly understand
00:41:43.340 the problem he would suddenly regain a grasp of why this might be an issue
00:41:47.900 i mean uh ben is gonna be ben i don't have anything else that i have expectations for
00:41:58.980 ben shapiro to come out of the woodwork and start saying these things i mean i know a lot of people
00:42:02.960 like to throw the the browning of america tweet at him time and time again which is several years
00:42:07.820 old at this point which i'm sure his opinion on that hasn't changed at all whatsoever i mean very
00:42:11.840 clearly it hasn't changed no of course not you know extremely clear uh if anything you know he's
00:42:16.820 he's doubled if not tripled down on that sort of position so i mean like you know ben's reaction
00:42:21.440 is par for the course that i've seen from a lot of uh conservatives i mean like eric erickson has
00:42:25.380 been on a tear as of late on the timeline talking about uh who belongs to what and that this is just
00:42:30.840 entitlement or that this makes you know better than the left that we've seemed to have programmed
00:42:35.720 ourselves at least for a generation and of course there's always the there's a paycheck behind this
00:42:40.600 or there's ulterior motive behind it sure absolutely that's important to include in this
00:42:44.260 sort of analysis but like uh by and large a lot of you know the conservative liberal disposition
00:42:49.780 in the united states amongst a lot of people is is that when they say that like oh democrats are
00:42:54.500 the real racist they actually mean it there is a higher degree of openness for the average
00:42:59.420 republican voter than anything else and then that does leave the question of dispossession but at
00:43:04.900 the same time you know we can couch this in whatever language we want i know a lot of like
00:43:09.260 you know at matt peterson's forum thing last week there was a lot of this being couched in the
00:43:13.320 question of culture um which you know what is culture that's a whole other question have asked
00:43:17.720 um is it a particular expression of a particular people i think so but uh you know it's um it's all
00:43:24.000 there and present for us to sort of debate because it is the cultural heritage and by extension the
00:43:28.340 heritage of the population um and the population itself is being changed erased and replaced and
00:43:33.420 we're witnessing that play out right now this photograph and everything that beau french had
00:43:38.040 said, is nothing more but a microcosm of the greater discussion that's being had on the
00:43:43.460 American right to a point where countless individuals, I mean, it's been very popular
00:43:47.220 to say Star Wars name on Twitter time and time again, where there are countless people who are
00:43:52.300 on the timeline who are from various, you know, non-European origin coming into the United States
00:43:58.260 or even being elected into office that are saying like, this lost in 1945. This will never happen 0.88
00:44:04.280 again. You will never have a quote unquote white country again. And that came from prominent 0.99
00:44:09.120 politicos on the left saying this to various political candidates, both here in the United
00:44:13.540 States and in Britain. And so again, like it's important to understand that in this sort of
00:44:18.720 mass democratic system that we're participating in, votes are going to be nothing more but ethnic
00:44:23.720 blocks and how we're going to participate in them. And it's about counting the votes and making sure
00:44:28.320 that you can win about that. Because if you can't win fairly, you're either going to import a new
00:44:32.320 population, or you're going to cheat, which means no voter identification. We're going to ensure 0.97
00:44:37.440 that the Save America Act doesn't get passed. You're going to oppose that because that means
00:44:40.500 your electoral viability goes into the toilet, which is why they're all for opening up the flood
00:44:46.060 gates again if they get into power in 2029, especially in the White House. But also at the
00:44:50.720 same time, it's for us on the right to consider that, yeah, we can have the same debate that we
00:44:55.200 always have, which is that, of course, Ben Shapiro is really only going to be supportive of one
00:44:59.240 particular ethnic group in the united states and really one particular ethnic group globally and
00:45:03.340 it's not going to be people like myself but at the end of the day like this isn't just a ben
00:45:07.320 shapiro problem this is also a larger sort of internal problem of our schema of politics in
00:45:13.180 the american right because a lot of people on the right i think have a far greater degree of
00:45:17.120 openness than they do than say on the left because the left understands that all politics is identity
00:45:21.520 politics whereas on the right that's kind of couched either in what often gets called dog
00:45:26.460 whistles or we we use other language like safe schools or good schools and things like that
00:45:31.660 um and at the end of the day i think that it's just sort of important to say that it isn't
00:45:35.340 it is good and it is fine and it is natural to have a healthy consensus and perception of yourself
00:45:41.480 saying i am part of a group that group is good that group built this place that group actually
00:45:45.920 did all these wonderful things and i am the carrier of that tradition and so will my progeny
00:45:50.460 and everything else like that uh as we make it very clear in our founding documents for ourselves
00:45:54.940 and our posterity. And all we have to do is just, you know, read the founding fathers and understand
00:45:59.920 what the conceptualization of this nation was, and even how it evolved with, you know, waves of
00:46:05.480 European immigration. We still had a pretty rough consensus of what an American was, even as World
00:46:11.700 War II came to a close and our immigration was filled with individuals from Poland and Lithuania
00:46:17.020 and things like that. We kind of figured it out. It also took two world wars to kind of get that
00:46:21.860 sort of immigration system figured out in terms of who belonged to what group and who considered
00:46:25.900 themselves American. Took World War I to eliminate German towns where they spoke exclusively German
00:46:31.340 and had German printed newspapers in the Midwest and places like Michigan and Wisconsin. It should 1.00
00:46:36.340 not take another global conflict for us to rehash this identitarian question about who is an
00:46:41.880 American. An American is obvious. And when it comes to that, it boils down that assimilation 0.78
00:46:46.940 can't happen at scale yes you can have notable exceptions but at the same time that this boils
00:46:51.900 down to it's okay to say i belong here i am who i am and you are not part of that and we should be
00:46:59.520 able to regulate and decide who comes in who stays out and that's what made i think the trump
00:47:03.920 administration and all the efforts on immigration over the last 10 years so important because on a
00:47:09.200 national and biological level uh the damage to the country is very difficult to reverse it's very
00:47:16.440 difficult for us to comprehend the sheer scale for a country of 330 plus million people. But
00:47:22.820 overall, I mean, again, this is why, you know, both French and Donald Trump really should be 0.69
00:47:27.300 the standard. If you want to go further than that, fantastic. You're going to have my support all the
00:47:31.260 way. And it's all the more important for our listener, your listeners to be, make sure that
00:47:36.420 they're registered to vote, to make sure that these kinds of candidates do win their offices.
00:47:40.160 I hope that you're involved in your primaries as well, because that's the great way to get rid of
00:47:43.260 people like john cornyn but at the same time you know these are things that we're going to have to
00:47:47.520 start conceptualizing and having more regular conversations about rather than doing the same
00:47:52.060 old song and dance and shadow boxing with ben shapiro that he's just one small part of the
00:47:56.860 problem um of a much greater conversation that needs to be had on actually no it's good that
00:48:01.900 texas looks like texas actually no it's good that new england looks like the people that made new
00:48:06.300 england you know the the the birthplace of this country um those kind of things are very important
00:48:10.800 for us to consider and instead um i don't need to be listening to eric erickson and countless
00:48:14.880 others say that you know these people were evil racist bigots and it's glad that they've been
00:48:19.440 defeated because all that that means is that they have sided with the very political class that
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00:48:47.920 Yep, absolutely true. Lots of wisdom there, especially the part about supporting these
00:48:53.340 candidates that we see ultimately, you know, carving out the kind of position that will be
00:48:58.000 important to the future of the United States. So if you're in Texas, absolutely, you know,
00:49:02.560 vote for Beau French, support Beau French, you know, get out there and, you know, phone bank for
00:49:07.720 the guy, knock on doors, do what you need to do. He's earned your support. He has stood against
00:49:13.440 the tide in a difficult moment, and that should be rewarded. That said, guys, we are pre-taping
00:49:20.660 this today. I am traveling actually to Dallas to discuss the issue of immigration and demographic
00:49:26.100 transformation. So we will not be able to take any of your super chats today. But Mr. Williams,
00:49:33.120 before we head out, where can people find your great work?
00:49:35.440 Sure, absolutely. As always, Oren, thank you so much for having me on. I greatly appreciate it. It's always a pleasure to be on your program. You can find me on Twitter at Mr. Prudentialist. You can also find me on YouTube under the same name. And if you are in town on November 7th of this year, you can see myself and my co-host Dimes at a live event of Do You Even Read, which is one of the programs that I have on my channel covering all sorts of political theory and books that everyone says that we should read.
00:50:01.900 so we do the reading so you don't have to. We will be live in Dallas, Texas on November 7th.
00:50:06.400 You can find tickets on eventbrite.com. We look forward to seeing you all there. And as always,
00:50:10.040 Oren, thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. If you're in Texas, make sure
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00:50:29.380 you for watching. And as always, I will talk with you next time.