00:09:08.320it's like well there's a lot being revealed there like one when you say diverse you mean just no
00:09:13.780white people in the picture because they're all south asian like that's the whole point right it's
00:09:17.580not like oh there were a couple indian people scattered through this audience no it was a
00:09:23.200concerted block of people who were only sitting next to each other because they shared the same
00:09:27.900ethnicity there's no diversity in that photo and when you say well this is just what texas looks
00:09:33.300like? Well, why does it look that way? Is it an accident? Did we randomly just drop a couple0.70
00:09:39.720million people from India into the middle of Texas by some spacecraft? Or was there a policy,
00:09:45.980a decision made that actually brought us here? Is it just an act of God or is someone responsible
00:09:50.820for the demographic transformation? But maybe some people haven't been to Texas. And so,
00:09:57.080Matt, I'll let you talk a little bit about this. I mean, when I go
00:09:59.700to dallas it it looks like mumbai half the time you know you you are surrounded by indian stores
00:10:07.260indian restaurants uh everyone behind a counter is an indian uh you are seeing uh hindu temples
00:10:13.700popping up in texas building giant statues to monkey gods uh i mean it's very clear that you
00:10:20.340have a massive indian population in texas and they are not just like coming in and converting
00:10:26.280to prostatism and starting to wear like you know baseball caps and t-shirts and drive f-150s like
00:10:33.600they are wearing their own ethnic clothing they're maintaining their religion they are living in like0.52
00:10:40.400cloistered ethnic enclaves uh they are promoting each other only working with each other like this
00:10:46.680this is a transformational experience in the kind of demographic makeup of texas yeah so i think
00:10:54.700that there's a lot of ground to cover here. So I'll try and start from where you had just left
00:10:59.880off, and then we'll work our way backward. So I mean, according to the Pew Research Center,
00:11:04.080it says in 2025, it's about 570,000 residents in the state of Texas are of some Indian American or
00:11:10.600Indian descent. I'm sure that number is much higher. I don't know if that includes student
00:11:15.100visas, H-1Bs, everything that has been sort of covered in the administration, but also over the
00:11:21.980course of the last several years um and sort of online politics which has been emphasizing that
00:11:27.220while yes there is obvious other demographic issues to concern because about 40 percent two
00:11:32.340fifths of texas if not more is hispanic or latino which of course doesn't really mean anything is
00:11:37.880that such a broad category but uh you know that's the second highest concentration of uh indians in
00:11:43.600the united states i think outside of like california and specifically sort of silicon
00:11:46.940valley and san francisco um so with that being said i think it's sort of important to consider
00:11:51.340that you're right if you go to places anywhere inside the dfw metroplex from carolton to irving
00:11:57.500the south lake area uh even as far as north is sort of the lewisville denton county of course
00:12:03.820there's unt there um there's going to be a lot of that present like there's a i went to a half
00:12:08.400price books a couple of weeks ago and right next to it was this large explicitly you know indian
00:12:13.340desi marketplace that was like a grocery store explicitly for indians and you know it was just
00:12:18.460catering to that customer base. And so that's a big part of the demographic transformation
00:12:22.300of the North Texas and the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex area. A lot of this has to do with
00:12:27.140student visas. A lot of this also has to do with the fact that people can come in on visas and
00:12:31.760then bring family with them. And the issue of chain migration, not just that we've talked about
00:12:37.180with the Darien Gap and people coming in through asylum claims and the rest, but through the
00:12:42.480existing visa processes that have been on the books for years, as allowed the North Texas area
00:12:48.160to see a radical transformation and its demographics. And this is something that
00:12:52.560has been discussed, not just by Beau French, but by countless others in the state of Texas.
00:12:57.080And it's sort of important to consider that the Republican Party and sort of the conservative
00:13:01.080movement in Texas is not this large monolithic entity. I mean, you do have a lot of the former
00:13:08.100John Cornyn or the George W. Bush and the George P. Bush types that had a large sway of influence
00:13:13.780over Republican politics where we're acting like it's 2000 and, you know, Democrats are never going
00:13:19.500to get an office in forever and acting like it's, you know, the early 2000s again, where, you know,
00:13:24.280it seemed like Republican supermajority was just never going to go away. And now when we look at
00:13:28.940the polling data, largely in part due to, I think, mainly demographic change, where, you know,
00:13:33.960two safe red seats in Texas for the Senate have had very close contests over the last several years,
00:13:40.580whether it be Ted Cruz versus Beto O'Rourke in 2018 or now more recently with James Tallarico
00:13:45.840and Ken Paxton and again all the more reason to bring these guys over the finish line so that the
00:13:52.580John Cornyn types of the world are in the dustbin of electoral history but also because the younger
00:13:58.600conservative faction the you know like the young Republicans of Texas and the young conservatives
00:14:02.560of Texas as divided as they can be on a variety of issues I you know I talk with a lot of activists
00:14:08.780i talk with a lot of you know party affiliates and auxiliaries anyone under the age of 30 knows
00:14:13.900how bad it is and they make me feel like a moderate sometimes and they're doing everything
00:14:18.680that they can within their power to make sure that these guys are winning so i think it's important
00:14:23.740to throw them the the bone and the credit that they deserve which is trying to make sure that
00:14:29.320this charade of the overton window is put away and what we see is the little man behind the curtain
00:14:36.280which is that there's identity politics for everyone except actual Americans and actual
00:14:40.620Texans. So overall, I think that when we take a look at this, Beau French's tweet, of course,
00:14:45.180highlighted just an obvious issue, which is that it's obviously worse than anyone had imagined.
00:14:50.480In UT Austin, from 2012 to 2025, white enrollment dropped over 15,000 students. Hispanic enrollment
00:14:56.980jumped by over 35,000. And Asian enrollment jumped by 13,215 individuals. And so, I mean,
00:15:04.140just within a short period of time, we're only talking 13 years from the second, you know,
00:15:08.700the election year of Barack Obama's second term to 2025, the first year of Trump too,
00:15:14.540that this is what we've witnessed. And I mean, it's not just the Indian issue that we're dealing
00:15:19.460with here in Texas, but it's also now how do we balance, of course, America, Texas being a majority
00:15:25.100minority state? I mean, between Indians, we have Hispanics of all kinds, not to mention the
00:15:31.040unfettered immigration that the biden administration had unleashed and so i think that the republican
00:15:35.360party in texas and large extent republicans and conservatives all over the state are trying to
00:15:39.700reconcile with what do we do with this mess electorally and this isn't even on top of the
00:15:44.360fact that you know in the last two major presidential elections you had the rio grande
00:15:49.220valley which has historically voted uh democrat for decades swung for trump in massive numbers
00:15:55.420to a point where in the 2020 election you had all these articles come out about multiracial
00:16:00.340whiteness and, you know, white passing Hispanics and things like that. So it's a very complicated
00:16:05.800issue, but I think Beau French just highlights the very obvious thing that so many people online
00:16:10.400have been talking about and other politicos have been writing about for years, which is that
00:16:14.660unfettered, you know, immigration and by extension, demographic change and replacement of a native
00:16:19.600population will eventually disenfranchise you and your children and make it electorally impossible
00:16:25.660for you to ever stem the tide or reverse the flow once that reaches a critical threshold and a
00:16:31.400critical mass, which is why every election from the federal level down to the state offices
00:16:36.360has been more important than ever to make sure that all sorts of policies and programs that DHS
00:16:42.280has are still in place and can still be enacted from sheriff's departments, DAs, and so on,
00:16:48.980to make sure that we're cooperating with ICE, that we're cooperating with DHS. Because if not,
00:16:54.020people like you know if hinojosa wins for example against greg abbott which i don't think she will
00:16:59.700um she would happily you know make texas no longer cooperate with ice and things like that so these
00:17:04.880are real consequences and we're witnessing the you know logical conclusion of demographic change
00:17:11.060and immigration into the united states i mean john cornyn famously had tweeted out i think he
00:17:15.080deleted it later on because he had gotten attacked online for it but you know welcome to the indian
00:17:19.280century and of course you know greg abbott's done the same in supporting sort of uh texas indian
00:17:24.820relations but it just kind of goes to show that in a democracy ethnic blocks are important and
00:17:30.800you're gonna have to cater to the groups that donate to you and line your pocketbook0.84
00:17:33.720it's so important to get people to understand this but they just refuse and this is where
00:17:40.640the republicans really earn their reputation as controlled opposition so texas the story of texas
00:17:48.080is the story of demographics being destiny right like the only reason that texas is part of the
00:17:54.820united states is that it was sparsely populated mexico couldn't defend it they large allowed a
00:18:00.660large amount of american immigration into the area thinking that the bodies were what mattered
00:18:05.680and then ultimately the americans that moved in there well they didn't want to be ruled by mexico
00:18:10.780they didn't want to be ruled in the way that mexicans rule and so they decided that they
00:18:15.500would ultimately break away. The fact that you had enough Americans move into that area to0.99
00:18:21.280change the demographic makeup and therefore change the future of political representation
00:18:26.500in Texas is what makes it American today. It's what defines the fact that it's here and not in
00:18:32.280Mexico. And so the idea that moving a large number of people into an area and having them dominate0.69
00:18:39.520the political environment changes the destiny, the outcome of that area. Well, that's literally
00:18:45.680baked into the story of Texas. And so when we look at the Republican Party, they love, of course,
00:18:51.780we know they love to court groups that won't vote for them. Every year they want to win the black
00:18:55.620vote, even though the black vote is monolithically for the Democrats. And this is true of almost0.95
00:19:00.900every ethnic minority group. They almost always vote overwhelmingly for the left. And this is
00:19:06.340just as true for indians as anyone else they vote on average about 70 percent left wing uh they are
00:19:12.460very supportive of leftists in general and so the idea that bringing a large number of people in
00:19:19.520like forget the culture forget everything else right just mercenary politics just basic you know
00:19:25.420political future of the gop if you want to survive as a party bringing in a bunch of people who vote
00:19:32.80070% for the other party is suicidal, like clearly. And we're already seeing that demographic shift0.60
00:19:38.340impact what's happening in Texas, impact the election, the electability of Republicans.
00:19:43.980And yet still, you cannot get Republicans to take their own side, or at least what is supposed to
00:19:49.100be their own side, not the side of Americans. They think it's more important to whinge about
00:19:54.300racism as if that's going to win any of these Indian voters over, as if a single one of them
00:19:59.640is going to care and you know the other arguments we're already hearing is well you know now there
00:20:03.760are so many indians and in texas you can't afford to lose them as a voting block which is of course1.00
00:20:08.700always the poisonous poisonous logic of immigration because it says oh well you know we have to let1.00
00:20:14.440these people in here and once they're in it says oh well we have to cater to them now because1.00
00:20:18.060there's too many of them we can't send them all back we can't get rid of them and so it's always
00:20:21.800this trap the minute you let the door in you're automatically creating a political block that
00:20:25.600will be catered to. And so you think for their own political survival, Republicans will push
00:20:29.960back against this. But instead, they think the most important thing is to denounce anyone who
00:20:33.860notices that they're basically engineering losses in Texas for the next few decades.
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00:20:57.440well and i think this is just the things coming home to roost that you know over the last several
00:21:05.180years that we've witnessed not just you know outside immigration coming into texas but also
00:21:10.920as well we've had a lot of people coming in from california and it's important to consider that
00:21:15.200because of the demographic changes internally inside texas there were more california transplants
00:21:20.700that voted for Ted Cruz and his reelection campaign in 2018, then there were native Texans
00:21:26.280to the area who were already pre-existing Texas residents who didn't move. Now, is that in part
00:21:31.060due to demographic change? Yes, it's also partially due to the fact that Ted Cruz has got his own
00:21:35.240likability issues and that he certainly needs, I think, some better PR on his front. But and also
00:21:40.400the fact that, you know, there was a lot of energy behind O'Rourke, not just from inside of Texas's
00:21:44.540large Hispanic coalition of voters, but also because there was just a lot of outside money
00:21:48.380pouring into it and so so beau french i think has kicked the hornet's nest on a very important
00:21:53.540discussion which is something that again is not radical it's not you know this extremist thing
00:21:59.620i mean it's the same sort of things that the young republicans of texas's chairman had said
00:22:05.060just a week ago which was that assimilation is not possible at scale and that you are going to lose
00:22:11.440you know the the culture and the heritage that exists when these people are brought in
00:22:15.480And so I think that, again, we're moving ourselves in a direction that needs to be taken. And I'm glad to hear that from people younger than myself, younger than you, hearkening on these issues. But at the same time, you are right.
00:22:27.260There's a lot of this where it's like, well, we will have our own multi-ethnic working coalition, and this is sort of the kind of conversation that echoes back to the post-2012 autopsy that the Republican Party had put together, which is that we'll just allow ourselves to be a little more watered down on the issues that get the base excited and the hopes that we'll lure people over.
00:22:49.840And in the history of political coalitions in the United States, every time that this happens, the majority inevitably becomes disenfranchised and beholden to the minority part of the coalition's interests.
00:23:03.240And I think that becomes incredibly important for us to consider when we look at this situation.
00:23:08.080But, I mean, again, as we've witnessed throughout the news, you know, not just besides, you know, the tweet that came from Beau French.
00:23:15.340I mean, Travis Kelsey, you know, had famously just got reported today that like he had got lost, like lost millions, tens of millions of dollars in a Ponzi scheme to an illegal Indian immigrant to the United States.0.68
00:23:26.860Someone who shouldn't begin here scamming the rich and famous and scamming, you know, people out of millions of dollars.
00:23:32.840This does not even include the billions of dollars that are expropriated from American citizens, primarily white American senior citizens from Indian based call centers.0.95
00:23:41.680And yet this is the relationship that we have with them.0.98
00:23:44.000And I think that it's just borders down to the something that you and Carl Benjamin had talked about and countless others, this idea like demographic sovereignty, like on a national defense level, only the people that identify with the country who consider themselves American are going to stand up and defend her.
00:23:57.820We can take a look at this and we take a look at Iraq war casualties. A lot of people like to also do the go back in time to the Civil War. Some like to go back even further as a proud son of the American Revolution. I can definitely understand and relate to that.
00:24:08.640But at the same time, like you cannot have vital sectors of the economy, which like tech is an excellent example, education, health care, AI being ran by people that have no identity and no sense of belonging to the United States.0.84
00:24:23.620If all four of your grandparents are from America, then you have a pretty good idea where you're going to vote. But if you're first gen or second gen off the boat, odds are you're probably not going to be voting that way and you don't identify with the country because America's powers that be have identified that the United States, its European and its Christian heritage and its culture, its Anglo common law traditions are meant to be seen as evil and oppressive.0.74
00:24:49.680there's been you know new museum pieces out you know decrying the complicated figure of george
00:24:55.060washington for being some sort of bigot or being some sort of you know uh feared you know killer
00:25:00.380of indians and it's just like this is how we're portraying it this is that the founding is bad
00:25:04.700the history of texas is bad um sam houston is evil all the sort of sort of other stuff that
00:25:09.880we would have considered uh and now it's just that you know well as long as they're wearing
00:25:13.860like a longhorn t-shirt and they're you know two-stepping like this is totally fine and
00:25:18.420I think that the commercialization of state and national identity to be just basically the Dallas Cowboys, the Astros and Buc-ee's is obviously deadly and terrible thing because it represents the death of a culture and the death of a heritage that people should cling to.
00:25:34.220But it also means that a lot of people have just inevitably become this dispossessed majority in the wake of pursuing new business deals, greater expansion and trade, all for the sake of either the almighty dollar, obeying the gods, the copybook headings and so on.0.84
00:25:48.660So, I mean, I like you had said at the beginning or in like both French said nothing that's controversial and it's good to, you know, kick, you know, this hornet's nest, because, again, I think that it got a lot of people wanting to support this guy, which I mean, most people do not pay attention to statewide office races like this on a national level, which I'm glad that that's, you know, more tensions being focused on it.
00:26:09.380But also at the same time that we need to seriously consider what are we what are we doing here?
00:26:14.620Because the greatest thing so far that we've witnessed on an administrative level has been the reduction of legal immigration along with the border wall and everything else.
00:26:23.080Now, that has to be continued on the state level as much as humanly possible.
00:26:26.640And that means that they can never wield power.
00:26:29.140And unfortunately, due to demographic change, that is becoming a potential reality where they could have power.
00:26:35.280and all the more reason that this issue needs to be front and center for anyone who's wanting to
00:26:40.080seriously consider elected office. I mean, Trump and Beau French, I think, have set standards for
00:26:44.360future Republicans and future conservative politicos from here on out. Yeah, Beau French
00:26:50.840is definitely the future. I made a post on Twitter saying, guys, if you think Beau French
00:26:56.040is radical, you don't understand anything. Beau French is the moderate option here. He is the
00:27:02.620off-ramp. He is the thing that comes before the radicalism comes. He's giving you an opportunity
00:27:07.840to solve this problem while it's still solvable. If you think he's radical, just talk to any
00:27:13.600young Texan and figure out where things are going. I think we both saw this debate coming.
00:27:21.860We both knew it was inevitable because obviously the Republican Party has only paid lip service to
00:27:27.760any kind of immigration restriction for a very long time. Donald Trump was the first one to
00:27:33.300really take it seriously, actually close the border. We were told forever that closing the
00:27:38.440border was impossible, even by Republicans. And then Trump administration in the second term did
00:27:43.540it in just a few months, for which they receive lots of credit. And so the Trump administration
00:27:49.660kind of turned that on their head. Okay, illegal immigration we know is done, or at least it should
00:27:55.900be done but now the question is legal immigration right because we started to realize oh it isn't
00:28:01.400just the bad parts about immigration aren't just the procedure right like when we were only opposing
00:28:06.920illegal immigration that was very safe for republicans because they could treat it as a
00:28:10.220procedural issue someone didn't do the paperwork someone didn't get a stamp on the paperwork
00:28:15.080someone didn't go through the process and that's the problem if you skip the process that's when
00:28:20.480you're an issue if you're a violator of the law that's when you're an issue so we don't have to
00:28:24.500talk about any of the other aspects of immigration, any of the other negative aspects of immigration,
00:28:28.220we just talk about the illegality. Well, once you close the border, that talking point is gone.
00:28:34.980And then people look around, they still realize that their country is being transformed, that
00:28:39.040their culture is being replaced. And they have more questions. Okay, why am I competing with
00:28:44.240all of these people from across the world for jobs in the United States? Why is it my job to
00:28:49.180compete with every guy in India who wants a tech job? Why am I suddenly seeing these people replace
00:28:55.740me in universities and boardrooms? Like, is this really what America is? Like, what is an America?
00:29:03.500And that question is a lot harder for people to discuss because now we have to go beyond legality
00:29:08.680and we have to talk about the harder facts of immigration. That when you change the people,
00:29:14.860you change the culture. That America is not just an idea. It's not just a set of principles. It's
00:29:19.780not some floating ephemeral thing. It's a group of people living historically, living in a way
00:29:26.640that their ancestors did. That's what makes America, America. And that doesn't mean that
00:29:31.640other people can't weave into that story, can't join that at some level, though I do think we0.95
00:29:36.380need an immigration moratorium for at least a generation. But the ultimate core of America
00:29:42.660is something definable. And when you start to define it, people get very, very scared.
00:29:47.540Because as you said, you know, for all these Republicans, as much as they want to pretend
00:29:50.960it's not the case, they just treat America as an economic zone. America is a t-shirt. America
00:29:56.300is a sports team. America is consumption habits. America is what you watch on TV.
00:30:03.060And that is insufficient. That is treating America as transactional. That is just as
00:30:09.800hollow and empty is saying America needs to be some multicultural disaster. Nobody wants to live1.00
00:30:16.820in a place like that. Everybody wants their own homeland, their own place where they can live
00:30:22.780among people who agree with them, who live in the same way that they do, who have the same values
00:30:28.340that they do. And when you bring in people who have no connection to the history, no connection
00:30:35.240to the story, this changes things radically. And as you brought up, it's even more important with
00:30:40.880perhaps the legal immigration, because in many cases, legal immigrants aren't just driving
00:30:46.200trucks or putting roofs on or picking fruit. They're moving into positions of power. They're
00:30:52.320moving into educated positions, boardrooms. They are becoming politicians. They're becoming an elite
00:30:59.460class. And if your elite class is inherently connected to foreign interests, if they are still
00:31:06.340doing caste meetups in the United States for their different Indian castes, if they are still
00:31:12.960building Hindu temples with giant monkey god statues, if they are permanently altering the0.86
00:31:21.080way that you live your life in the United States and they're in an elite class, then they are even1.00
00:31:26.260a bigger problem than the large number of illegals who are flooding in, but at least0.53
00:31:31.040weren't taking positions of power. Yeah, I mean, this is where I think that the rhetoric sometimes0.96
00:31:39.500where we say, like, with regards to bringing in business or legal immigration can sometimes be
00:31:46.200used as a very effective cover to where we will tell our population or we'll tell voters that,
00:31:51.560you know, this is just part of, you know, engaging in free market and international trade and
00:31:55.140remaining competitive and making america you know texas or america the number one place to do
00:31:59.380business but that also means that the bill of goods i'm being sold isn't necessarily just the
00:32:05.260the main issue of oh well you know it's good for us this is economic growth that means jobs and0.94
00:32:09.600development no that usually means that like there will be an ethnic cartel that i now have to deal
00:32:13.840with if i want to get a job or if i want to compete against these individuals so on and so forth
00:32:18.220and they're always going to back the the candidate that's going to ensure that that you know grift
00:32:24.320still keeps running and that becomes i think a really big problem um on the immigration front
00:32:29.060because you're absolutely right like illegal immigration is the problem i think that trump
00:32:32.940brand came down there and so that's the obvious fact of the matter and he wasn't the first person
00:32:37.220to do this uh in our lifetimes but he won and he succeeded and he has created a tour de force where
00:32:42.800immigration restrictionism is in vogue again we have candidates running on it you have people
00:32:47.960like beau french people like brandon gill who are openly running on the issue that it's not just
00:32:52.900illegal immigration. It's legal immigration as well. There are, of course, conversations about
00:32:57.180an immigration moratorium. I think you could take it even further, go the Thomas Aquinas route if
00:33:01.380you want, make it three generations, and then let's see how we figure it out. And I mean, what
00:33:04.860made America, you know, people who would come in here and become quote unquote American, especially0.91
00:33:09.460those during like our Ellis Island waves of immigration, was one that we did not have the
00:33:13.840social welfare and the handout system that we did. Like a third of the people that came to this0.95
00:33:18.060country went back because they couldn't hack it. And then secondly, there was still an American0.92
00:33:21.960frontier that you could go on and conquer and try and become something about it this is what
00:33:27.120frederick jackson turner wrote about where the frontier was the great americanizer you would
00:33:31.360stop being german you put on your moccasins and you would try and figure out make a way for
00:33:34.760yourself in the frontier and if you did congratulations you made it you're an american
00:33:38.640now i'm oversimplifying it but that very kind of language is used in there uh in his writings about
00:33:44.020the importance of the frontier in american history and so now where the frontier is either
00:33:48.520on the tech front or we're discussing our return to space and so on, America has the question now
00:33:54.880where it's the frontier again. And it's the question of like, well, who are we and what
00:33:59.260are we going to be as a country? And overall, I think this is the conversation that needs to be
00:34:03.760had going forward for all debates and all discussions. And I mean, the real nice thing
00:34:08.100is, is that those that are proclaiming that this question about heritage or who is an American
00:34:12.800is an overrated and counterproductive sort of conversation to have. They're the ones that are
00:34:19.100getting booted at the ballot box. This is the reason why John Cornyn is not going to be on the
00:34:24.320ballot this November. He was sent home for Ken Paxton. He did not deliver on the Save America
00:34:29.480Act, which would ensure that Republicans would win elections ad infinitum for the next like at
00:34:34.220least two or three election cycles. And all this comes to show that if you're not willing to stand
00:34:38.940up for the people that have been told to vote for you because there is no other option there will be0.87
00:34:44.140consequences and this is the attitude that we need to be having not being so morose like yes i'm
00:34:49.100realistic enough to know that things are pretty dire i live in the lone star state i know that
00:34:53.760dallas has turned into the lone star state like i get it but at the same time like this should be
00:34:58.760your wake-up call to anyone listening that there are ways in which you can hold these people
00:35:03.820accountable i'm not just talking about the electoral process i'm talking about getting
00:35:07.860involved. I'm talking about getting engaged and making sure that you have the ability to wield
00:35:12.560the levers of power yourself. And it's better to do it now than later, because again, demographic
00:35:17.480change is very real. We've witnessed it and how it's played out in elections here in Texas and
00:35:22.520in countless other places, as well as across the world, including Sweden and their recent elections.
00:35:27.620So all the more reasoned that we need to be paying attention and having these conversations
00:35:31.060from here on out, because at the end of the day, if we refuse to allow ourselves to simply say,
00:35:36.460well, this is how it's going to be. I'm always going to have the boot on my back.
00:35:39.140Then that's going to just create, I think, a feedback loop of learned helplessness. When at
00:35:43.500the end of the day, there are people who are brave enough to use their face and their name and to get
00:35:48.080involved and to get engaged and to run for office and to do those things. And that's where we need
00:35:53.100to really be levying our support right now, especially because I want the guys that want
00:35:57.660to restrict immigration to win. I want those guys to be the mainstream position, to be the
00:36:03.760moderate position the sensible centrist position if you will and i think that's the way going
00:36:08.220forward that it needs to be approached yeah again i think the fact that double that beau
00:36:14.060french doubled down on his position here and got so much grassroots support for doing so
00:36:18.700really matters i think that's why so much of the conservative establishment is terrified
00:36:23.420of kind of how this broke down because they recognize they're losing control of this narrative
00:36:29.600they no longer have the iron grip they can no longer say the magic word and scare everybody
00:36:35.020back into hiding that said i don't feel like we'd be doing this right if we didn't respond
00:36:40.440to ben shapiro here uh so here is what ben shapiro had to say about this incident from
00:36:50.060morning hockey with a cup of coffee to timbits and road trips tims and canadian tire have always
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00:37:11.840to be upset that people from different ethnic backgrounds enjoy college football? A viral
00:37:15.740photo of like, I don't know, 30 brown students from the stands of this weekend's UT Ohio game
00:37:20.000went viral when a random low-level local GOP candidate said kind of gross things about their
00:37:24.540skin color after we review why football is great i'm gonna run through some stats a couple things
00:37:29.700first beau french never said anything about their skin color like literally absolutely nothing about
00:37:34.380it so ben shapiro is just telling a bald face lie here without any shame he is completely lying to
00:37:39.480his audience about what beau french said they're gonna watch this and they're gonna believe
00:37:43.440something entirely different because ben shapiro is acting as a leftist he is asserting things that
00:37:48.640are entirely untrue in the hopes of attaching some evil cause of racism to beau french's actions
00:37:54.940and he expects his audience to pay little attention to what actually happened so he's
00:38:00.200hoping to manipulate them i want to make it clear ben shapiro knows he's lying here he's lying on
00:38:05.060purpose to his audience to manipulate them because he wants them to believe what the left believes0.98
00:38:09.480that america is full of evil racists and uh you know they they want to purge every brown person0.99
00:38:14.880from the system. Like, it's just leftist rhetoric. That's all Ben Shapiro is engaging in.1.00
00:38:20.560UT's demographics, Texas Senate candidate Ken Paxton's reaction, and why James Tallarico is
00:38:25.020actually the most racist candidate of them all. There's a person named Beau French. He's running
00:38:29.620for railroad commissioner in Texas, and he snapped a picture of UT students who are celebrating
00:38:36.180their miraculous win over Ohio. So for those who missed the game, basically, Texas was down 20
00:38:43.380points in the last quarter and archie manning came back 21 points in the fourth quarter incredible
00:38:48.580comeback and the i wanted to leave ben's you know uh sports ball analysis here an insightful
00:38:55.680commentary to be sure cameras flashed to the crowd and one part of the university of texas
00:39:00.040at austin crowd was pretty clearly heavily indian it's a lot of people who have heritage that is not
00:39:09.420white right that that is what is is happening in this photo it looks like some people of hispanic
00:39:14.840origin some people of indian origin maybe some people of arabic origin just ethnically speaking
00:39:19.800so beau french tweeted out a picture of this so you'll notice that beau that he says oh well it's
00:39:25.760just a group of of of people in there you know when he never actually assesses why are they a
00:39:32.100group again it's not like there were two or three indians or even several indians scattered throughout
00:39:37.520a crowd in which they were sitting with you know a bunch of native texans or something like that
00:39:43.780it's all the same people it's all sitting together why are they all sitting together ben
00:39:49.000what's what's the reason that they're concentrated there could it be that they're segregating
00:39:54.320themselves by their own ethnicity at this event could that be why people are noticing because i
00:40:00.540don't think anyone would have taken this picture and shared it if it was three indian guys peppered
00:40:05.640in to the rest of the student body it's a concentration of people who clearly identify
00:40:11.160with each other because of their skin color and beaufrance said nothing about that by the way
00:40:19.360that's all i got for oh no go ahead oh sorry i didn't know if you had some if you have something
00:40:24.000i didn't know if we were done with ben shapiro oh no yeah we got we got just a little more ben
00:40:28.240he's got he's got a few more words for us it looked like this i didn't believe it the problem
00:40:32.880now obviously far worse than anyone imagined now a few things about this one these are not people
00:40:39.980who are there flying the mexican flag or the palestinian flag or protesting for gaza the only
00:40:46.400that's what i wanted to leave it okay okay so ben thinks that the only reason you should have
00:40:53.280any objection to foreigners being in your country and taking over your institutions
00:40:58.160if they happen to oppose Israel that's like that's like the only thing you can come up off
00:41:03.380the top of his head it's not like they're pro-Gaza or waving a Palestinian flag as if those are the
00:41:10.560only possible reasons you could notice demographic change and its deleterious impact and this is
00:41:16.280something that Ben has said over and over again later on social media it's like oh well you know
00:41:20.700ultimately I don't see the difference here I don't understand I promise you if we you know0.97
00:41:26.040dropped 10 million indians into uh into israel and they were all like very serious converts to0.86
00:41:33.440judaism you know believed in the whole thing but they started taking all the spots in israeli0.73
00:41:38.460universities and israeli businesses and really israeli media then would suddenly understand
00:41:43.340the problem he would suddenly regain a grasp of why this might be an issue
00:41:47.900i mean uh ben is gonna be ben i don't have anything else that i have expectations for
00:41:58.980ben shapiro to come out of the woodwork and start saying these things i mean i know a lot of people
00:42:02.960like to throw the the browning of america tweet at him time and time again which is several years
00:42:07.820old at this point which i'm sure his opinion on that hasn't changed at all whatsoever i mean very
00:42:11.840clearly it hasn't changed no of course not you know extremely clear uh if anything you know he's
00:42:16.820he's doubled if not tripled down on that sort of position so i mean like you know ben's reaction
00:42:21.440is par for the course that i've seen from a lot of uh conservatives i mean like eric erickson has
00:42:25.380been on a tear as of late on the timeline talking about uh who belongs to what and that this is just
00:42:30.840entitlement or that this makes you know better than the left that we've seemed to have programmed
00:42:35.720ourselves at least for a generation and of course there's always the there's a paycheck behind this
00:42:40.600or there's ulterior motive behind it sure absolutely that's important to include in this
00:42:44.260sort of analysis but like uh by and large a lot of you know the conservative liberal disposition
00:42:49.780in the united states amongst a lot of people is is that when they say that like oh democrats are
00:42:54.500the real racist they actually mean it there is a higher degree of openness for the average
00:42:59.420republican voter than anything else and then that does leave the question of dispossession but at
00:43:04.900the same time you know we can couch this in whatever language we want i know a lot of like
00:43:09.260you know at matt peterson's forum thing last week there was a lot of this being couched in the
00:43:13.320question of culture um which you know what is culture that's a whole other question have asked
00:43:17.720um is it a particular expression of a particular people i think so but uh you know it's um it's all
00:43:24.000there and present for us to sort of debate because it is the cultural heritage and by extension the
00:43:28.340heritage of the population um and the population itself is being changed erased and replaced and
00:43:33.420we're witnessing that play out right now this photograph and everything that beau french had
00:43:38.040said, is nothing more but a microcosm of the greater discussion that's being had on the
00:43:43.460American right to a point where countless individuals, I mean, it's been very popular
00:43:47.220to say Star Wars name on Twitter time and time again, where there are countless people who are
00:43:52.300on the timeline who are from various, you know, non-European origin coming into the United States
00:43:58.260or even being elected into office that are saying like, this lost in 1945. This will never happen0.88
00:44:04.280again. You will never have a quote unquote white country again. And that came from prominent0.99
00:44:09.120politicos on the left saying this to various political candidates, both here in the United
00:44:13.540States and in Britain. And so again, like it's important to understand that in this sort of
00:44:18.720mass democratic system that we're participating in, votes are going to be nothing more but ethnic
00:44:23.720blocks and how we're going to participate in them. And it's about counting the votes and making sure
00:44:28.320that you can win about that. Because if you can't win fairly, you're either going to import a new
00:44:32.320population, or you're going to cheat, which means no voter identification. We're going to ensure0.97
00:44:37.440that the Save America Act doesn't get passed. You're going to oppose that because that means
00:44:40.500your electoral viability goes into the toilet, which is why they're all for opening up the flood
00:44:46.060gates again if they get into power in 2029, especially in the White House. But also at the
00:44:50.720same time, it's for us on the right to consider that, yeah, we can have the same debate that we
00:44:55.200always have, which is that, of course, Ben Shapiro is really only going to be supportive of one
00:44:59.240particular ethnic group in the united states and really one particular ethnic group globally and
00:45:03.340it's not going to be people like myself but at the end of the day like this isn't just a ben
00:45:07.320shapiro problem this is also a larger sort of internal problem of our schema of politics in
00:45:13.180the american right because a lot of people on the right i think have a far greater degree of
00:45:17.120openness than they do than say on the left because the left understands that all politics is identity
00:45:21.520politics whereas on the right that's kind of couched either in what often gets called dog
00:45:26.460whistles or we we use other language like safe schools or good schools and things like that
00:45:31.660um and at the end of the day i think that it's just sort of important to say that it isn't
00:45:35.340it is good and it is fine and it is natural to have a healthy consensus and perception of yourself
00:45:41.480saying i am part of a group that group is good that group built this place that group actually
00:45:45.920did all these wonderful things and i am the carrier of that tradition and so will my progeny
00:45:50.460and everything else like that uh as we make it very clear in our founding documents for ourselves
00:45:54.940and our posterity. And all we have to do is just, you know, read the founding fathers and understand
00:45:59.920what the conceptualization of this nation was, and even how it evolved with, you know, waves of
00:46:05.480European immigration. We still had a pretty rough consensus of what an American was, even as World
00:46:11.700War II came to a close and our immigration was filled with individuals from Poland and Lithuania
00:46:17.020and things like that. We kind of figured it out. It also took two world wars to kind of get that
00:46:21.860sort of immigration system figured out in terms of who belonged to what group and who considered
00:46:25.900themselves American. Took World War I to eliminate German towns where they spoke exclusively German
00:46:31.340and had German printed newspapers in the Midwest and places like Michigan and Wisconsin. It should1.00
00:46:36.340not take another global conflict for us to rehash this identitarian question about who is an
00:46:41.880American. An American is obvious. And when it comes to that, it boils down that assimilation0.78
00:46:46.940can't happen at scale yes you can have notable exceptions but at the same time that this boils
00:46:51.900down to it's okay to say i belong here i am who i am and you are not part of that and we should be
00:46:59.520able to regulate and decide who comes in who stays out and that's what made i think the trump
00:47:03.920administration and all the efforts on immigration over the last 10 years so important because on a
00:47:09.200national and biological level uh the damage to the country is very difficult to reverse it's very
00:47:16.440difficult for us to comprehend the sheer scale for a country of 330 plus million people. But
00:47:22.820overall, I mean, again, this is why, you know, both French and Donald Trump really should be0.69
00:47:27.300the standard. If you want to go further than that, fantastic. You're going to have my support all the
00:47:31.260way. And it's all the more important for our listener, your listeners to be, make sure that
00:47:36.420they're registered to vote, to make sure that these kinds of candidates do win their offices.
00:47:40.160I hope that you're involved in your primaries as well, because that's the great way to get rid of
00:47:43.260people like john cornyn but at the same time you know these are things that we're going to have to
00:47:47.520start conceptualizing and having more regular conversations about rather than doing the same
00:47:52.060old song and dance and shadow boxing with ben shapiro that he's just one small part of the
00:47:56.860problem um of a much greater conversation that needs to be had on actually no it's good that
00:48:01.900texas looks like texas actually no it's good that new england looks like the people that made new
00:48:06.300england you know the the the birthplace of this country um those kind of things are very important
00:48:10.800for us to consider and instead um i don't need to be listening to eric erickson and countless
00:48:14.880others say that you know these people were evil racist bigots and it's glad that they've been
00:48:19.440defeated because all that that means is that they have sided with the very political class that
00:48:24.100operates on a lens of ethnic revenge from morning hockey with a cup of coffee to timbits and road
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00:48:47.920Yep, absolutely true. Lots of wisdom there, especially the part about supporting these
00:48:53.340candidates that we see ultimately, you know, carving out the kind of position that will be
00:48:58.000important to the future of the United States. So if you're in Texas, absolutely, you know,
00:49:02.560vote for Beau French, support Beau French, you know, get out there and, you know, phone bank for
00:49:07.720the guy, knock on doors, do what you need to do. He's earned your support. He has stood against
00:49:13.440the tide in a difficult moment, and that should be rewarded. That said, guys, we are pre-taping
00:49:20.660this today. I am traveling actually to Dallas to discuss the issue of immigration and demographic
00:49:26.100transformation. So we will not be able to take any of your super chats today. But Mr. Williams,
00:49:33.120before we head out, where can people find your great work?
00:49:35.440Sure, absolutely. As always, Oren, thank you so much for having me on. I greatly appreciate it. It's always a pleasure to be on your program. You can find me on Twitter at Mr. Prudentialist. You can also find me on YouTube under the same name. And if you are in town on November 7th of this year, you can see myself and my co-host Dimes at a live event of Do You Even Read, which is one of the programs that I have on my channel covering all sorts of political theory and books that everyone says that we should read.
00:50:01.900so we do the reading so you don't have to. We will be live in Dallas, Texas on November 7th.
00:50:06.400You can find tickets on eventbrite.com. We look forward to seeing you all there. And as always,
00:50:10.040Oren, thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. If you're in Texas, make sure
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