The Auron MacIntyre Show - 'But Who Will Pick the Cotton？' The Liberal Case for Mass Immigration

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00:02:09.760 So today's show, I want to dive into the question of immigration.

00:02:14.500 Now, obviously, this is something that we talk about a lot on the show.

00:02:18.260 This is a critical issue, something that we focus on on a regular basis.

00:02:23.580 But there's been a very interesting shift in the vibe, I think, recently.

00:02:28.520 We always knew this is a problem.

00:02:30.860 Immigration has always been a huge issue for Donald Trump.

00:02:34.480 It's really what skyrocketed him to the front of the pack,

00:02:38.300 is one of the few people who was truly strong when it came to his language on immigration,

00:02:43.060 being willing to address that issue, why it's so devastating to the American population.

00:02:49.940 But we've seen a cavalcade of stories that really just highlight how critical this issue is.

00:02:56.420 We've seen the takeover of apartment buildings by criminal gangs in Aurora, Colorado.

00:03:01.660 We've seen the devastation that a giant migrant population can bring to towns like Springfield, Ohio,

00:03:09.200 and others which have been noted for the large displacement of their population perpetrated by the federal government

00:03:16.560 and other NGO actors coordinating to make sure that many of these red-leaning areas

00:03:22.760 have very different populations come the next few election cycles.

00:03:27.860 It's very obvious that the government isn't just messing up the border.

00:03:32.420 It's not that they're just managing the border poorly.

00:03:35.240 It's that they're actively implementing a plan that is devastating to the American population.

00:03:40.900 And I think it's really important that we focus on this continuously because as we get closer and closer

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00:03:57.800 even though we recognize the danger of the border, even though we get some kind of vague hand-waving

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00:04:08.780 Ultimately, what we see is that the Democrats continue to push the line that replacement immigration is good,

00:04:14.640 that it's critical, that we need to build pathways to citizenship, amnesty, all of this stuff.

00:04:20.020 They pretend like illegals aren't going to vote in the election, and then the Department of Justice

00:04:26.440 goes after states like Virginia for removing illegal voters from the rolls.

00:04:31.380 The only reason to do that is you plan to cheat, and it's very clear that the Democrats plan to do this.

00:04:36.260 In fact, they will often just kind of announce it accidentally.

00:04:39.880 And so I want to go through some of the stories, the headlines over the last week,

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00:06:29.040 So, like I said, there's been a number of different stories in the media.

00:06:34.140 J.D. Vance did a devastating interview with one of the Sunday morning talk shows

00:06:39.040 that really highlighted how horrible the media is on this,

00:06:43.160 how little the media elites care about the American people.

00:06:47.300 And I think, you know, Bill Clinton embarrassed Kamala Harris repeatedly.

00:06:51.120 Like I said, kind of seemed like he was almost campaigning for Donald Trump on some level.

00:06:57.340 But I want to start here because I think this is really important.

00:07:01.720 This is a video of, you know, some workers picking vegetables in a field.

00:07:07.000 And the commenter here, the person who posted this, this post went huge.

00:07:11.880 As you can see, it's got like 17,000 retweets, 80,000 likes.

00:07:16.040 He says, every MAGA I've seen complain about immigrants taking American jobs would never do this.

00:07:25.260 So one of the really interesting things that you see over and over again from the left

00:07:31.340 is an economic argument that more or less boils down to, but who's going to pick the cotton, right?

00:07:39.380 Like who is going to pick the cotton, guys?

00:07:41.620 If we don't let a large amount, a vast amount of people come in and work for slave wages,

00:07:48.400 make sure that they have to live in this, you know, illegal existence, get paid under the table,

00:07:54.940 you know, not integrate into the larger community.

00:07:59.900 If we don't bring people in who are just going to funnel all this money that they're making back to

00:08:04.720 people living in, you know, in the host countries that came from,

00:08:07.820 if we don't bring in this labor, if we don't undercut American workers,

00:08:12.380 well, then, then just no one's going to do the job, right?

00:08:14.440 We have to have the slave labor that is provided by illegal immigrants,

00:08:20.460 because otherwise there's just no way that we could, we could eat food.

00:08:25.120 Before vast illegal immigration, you may not have known this,

00:08:28.920 but before vast illegal immigration, Americans did not have farms.

00:08:33.020 We did not have food. We just all starved all the time.

00:08:38.660 It was only by bringing in these huge quantities of people who are not supposed to be here,

00:08:44.620 you know, make sure that they bring in human trafficking.

00:08:47.120 We have a lot of fentanyl.

00:08:48.540 We want to make sure that we have as many gang members as possible.

00:08:51.260 Before this technology of bringing in people for super low rate wages,

00:08:56.380 well below what you're supposed to work for,

00:08:58.720 we just did not have food in the United States.

00:09:01.260 So this amazing innovation of people who will do farming work.

00:09:06.300 Now, I will say this.

00:09:08.980 Oftentimes, conservatives will just play this off.

00:09:12.660 They'll be like, oh, well, you know, the jobs, it's not that big a deal.

00:09:18.380 You know, someone will do the jobs.

00:09:19.680 No, you do actually need to pay people enough, right?

00:09:22.680 So if you don't pay people a living wage,

00:09:26.460 then yes, they will reject these jobs,

00:09:28.720 unless they're in such a destitute position,

00:09:31.500 their own countries are in such a terrible position, perhaps,

00:09:36.140 where they will do these jobs even for very low wages,

00:09:39.920 wages well below a living standard in the United States.

00:09:43.400 Now, there are many historical parallels,

00:09:46.040 but let's just go to the old standard here, the Roman Empire.

00:09:50.380 Many people think about the Civil War in the Roman,

00:09:55.520 you know, the transition between the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire,

00:09:58.720 the Civil War that broke out between Julius Caesar and Pompey,

00:10:03.960 the Optimates and the Populares.

00:10:06.980 A lot of people think of that as the central time in Roman history,

00:10:10.380 the real turning of destiny inside the Roman Empire.

00:10:15.200 And that's true to a large extent.

00:10:18.700 One of the reasons this is such a pivotal time,

00:10:20.840 this is something that people who just kind of have the cliff notes of this time

00:10:23.960 may not be aware of, but if you've gone any deeper,

00:10:26.640 you probably know this.

00:10:28.120 One of the key problems that was occurring during that time in the Roman Empire

00:10:33.480 was that large, wealthy landowners controlled all of the property.

00:10:40.020 There was an accumulation of property in the hands of the aristocracy.

00:10:47.820 And that made it very difficult for the average Roman to be just kind of this citizen farmer.

00:10:54.480 By the way, this is also Thomas Jefferson's vision for what America would be,

00:10:58.980 that the citizen farmer would own a certain plot of land,

00:11:01.900 he would work that land, that would be sustainable for him,

00:11:04.600 that would give him a certain level of dignity,

00:11:06.800 a certain level of independence, pride,

00:11:09.780 that allowed him to operate separate from the state.

00:11:12.840 You know, he's still part of the community,

00:11:15.100 but he's not dependent on the central apparatus,

00:11:17.880 the moneyed oligarchs, the aristocrats.

00:11:20.820 He would be his own man,

00:11:22.340 the man who's worthy of citizenship because he was a farmer.

00:11:26.740 And this is how Romans understood this as well.

00:11:29.160 One of the things that made you a citizen worthy of being able to vote,

00:11:33.780 for instance, in the Roman Republic was the fact that you own land,

00:11:38.640 that you were a farmer, a productive member.

00:11:41.900 This was a vision for the Romans of like,

00:11:45.120 what a good independent man contributing to the state looked like.

00:11:49.700 This is why the story of Cincinnatus is another touch point in Roman history,

00:11:56.580 because it's the idea that this guy gives up the dictatorship,

00:12:00.120 gives up the power that he's been given,

00:12:01.860 even though the people are basically begging him to be king.

00:12:04.160 And he says,

00:12:04.960 no,

00:12:05.460 I'm going to go back to the,

00:12:08.080 to the land and I'm going to farm.

00:12:09.980 Because ultimately that's what a Roman is.

00:12:12.220 It's someone who,

00:12:12.800 who gives up this power and returns back to his productive membership as a farm.

00:12:17.360 And so what many men who fought in the Roman legion were looking for was land.

00:12:21.960 And this is what Caesar promised.

00:12:23.520 This is what the Roman Senate often promised to men who were fighting in the legions,

00:12:28.000 not just money.

00:12:29.280 In fact,

00:12:29.600 oftentimes it wasn't money.

00:12:31.240 It was land.

00:12:31.960 Once you were given this piece of land,

00:12:33.320 it's much better than money because once you had that piece of land,

00:12:35.900 you could work it,

00:12:36.720 you could pass it on to your family.

00:12:38.200 It was an inheritance that would go from father to son that would sustain the family

00:12:42.480 for generation after generation after generation.

00:12:44.680 This is what defined kind of that Roman independence that I am worthy of participating in warfare.

00:12:52.420 I am worthy of participating in the democracy or the Republic,

00:12:56.820 the,

00:12:57.720 you know,

00:12:57.920 the voting process,

00:12:58.800 because I have this independence.

00:13:01.180 I work this land.

00:13:02.080 I am a free man providing for myself and my family and contributing to the community because I have this.

00:13:09.100 And what happened is that more and more of the property was being bought up by these large owners,

00:13:16.480 these holders.

00:13:17.420 And what they wanted to do is not hire Romans.

00:13:20.220 They didn't want to hire Roman labor.

00:13:22.200 They wanted slaves.

00:13:23.860 And so a large amount of Roman wealth started to be held in slaves.

00:13:28.260 It was actually,

00:13:29.180 you know,

00:13:29.380 we think of currency as something easy now because we,

00:13:32.200 we digitize it.

00:13:33.320 We've turned into fiat,

00:13:34.460 but that wasn't always the case.

00:13:35.920 It used to be that currency was very difficult to carry.

00:13:39.020 You know,

00:13:39.240 you literally had to physically carry,

00:13:41.300 you know,

00:13:41.700 heavy metal in order to use it and to store it.

00:13:45.820 And so oftentimes wealth is stored in other ways.

00:13:48.920 And one of the other ways it's stored was in slaves because slaves were this,

00:13:53.440 you know,

00:13:53.600 before you have machines,

00:13:54.800 before you have machine power,

00:13:56.240 they are the thing that gets most of the labor done.

00:13:59.680 You know,

00:13:59.820 you can't just build a tractor to do the job of a hundred men.

00:14:04.920 You actually need the physical labor of these guys on a regular basis to get the work done.

00:14:09.300 And the Roman oligarchs didn't want to pay Roman citizens for that work.

00:14:15.760 They wanted slaves for that work.

00:14:18.680 And so Roman citizens couldn't own their own land because so much of it was being bought up

00:14:23.780 by these large landholders,

00:14:26.360 making basically what were plantations at the time.

00:14:29.260 And the Roman and the Romans could not work for wages because the oligarchs didn't want to pay

00:14:36.140 them.

00:14:36.460 The landowners didn't want to pay them a wage that would actually allow them to live.

00:14:41.240 They just wanted to have free slave labor.

00:14:44.320 It's not hard to see the parallels here,

00:14:46.180 right?

00:14:46.440 It's not hard to see what is happening.

00:14:49.940 We have American workers.

00:14:51.420 It's not that they don't want to do jobs.

00:14:54.340 It's just that they don't want to do jobs for slave wages.

00:14:57.300 They want to do jobs that will allow them to pay for a house, to pay for their kid's education,

00:15:05.580 which will allow them to build generational wealth.

00:15:09.180 They want a wage that is actually going to let them afford a healthcare bill, right?

00:15:13.920 Like these are the things that people want their wages to do.

00:15:17.060 Well, companies don't need to pay you that wage if they can import someone who will work

00:15:23.740 for nothing, right?

00:15:25.240 Who will work for much, much less money because they don't care.

00:15:28.380 They don't care about healthcare.

00:15:29.720 Their healthcare is being subsidized by the government.

00:15:32.160 That's another big part of this.

00:15:33.700 A lot of the costs of this labor that would normally be calculated into a wage for an

00:15:42.160 American are subsidized by our government for illegals.

00:15:47.000 Illegals aren't actually cheap labor.

00:15:49.520 They're only cheap labor for the company, for the large owner of the land.

00:15:54.980 In this case, they are only a value for the people who are getting the direct benefit of

00:16:00.440 the labor, not for the wider workforce, because not only do the wages get depressed because

00:16:05.780 of this, the people are less likely to pay an American a living wage because there is

00:16:11.080 somebody from a foreign country here illegally who will do that job for way cheaper, but

00:16:16.340 they also know that that person is ultimately going to be subsidized for the government.

00:16:20.160 When one of these workers needs healthcare, they're not going to a normal doctor.

00:16:24.460 They're going to an emergency room and they're not going to pay a dollar for the healthcare

00:16:28.260 they get in that emergency room because they know that the emergency room is required to

00:16:33.180 treat them under law.

00:16:34.700 And so that employee who's getting no healthcare benefits, isn't getting enough money to pay

00:16:40.620 for healthcare bills.

00:16:42.000 That's not that they're just not going to the doctor, though sometimes they do.

00:16:44.800 And that's not great either, right?

00:16:46.040 That people are just not getting any healthcare at all.

00:16:48.920 But when they do get the healthcare, it is entirely subsidized by you, people who actually

00:16:53.420 pay their insurance premiums and by the government, who is often subsidizing this.

00:16:58.580 We know in, for instance, many of the Haitian immigrants brought into Ohio were being directly

00:17:02.820 subsidized by the government.

00:17:03.960 They were getting their rent paid.

00:17:05.240 They were getting their food paid for.

00:17:07.240 They were getting all kinds of healthcare benefits paid for by the government, educational

00:17:11.480 benefits, again, paid for by the government.

00:17:13.180 So it's privatizing the benefits of this low wage labor, but socializing the costs of it,

00:17:20.840 right?

00:17:21.040 You don't get the benefit of making money off of low wage labor, but you do pay all the

00:17:28.120 costs that the government is then socializing by absorbing all of the things that the corporation

00:17:36.440 would have to pay for if they were paying Americans.

00:17:38.960 And so this is a very constant refrain is, well, Americans would just never do these

00:17:43.420 jobs.

00:17:43.800 Now, look, I have done manual labor.

00:17:45.900 I've done construction.

00:17:46.840 I power washed roofs.

00:17:48.700 When I worked in Florida, I worked on air conditioning, like all kinds of stuff, not for a long time.

00:17:55.100 It was working my way through college.

00:17:57.140 I'm not going to pretend like I've just been this hard driving, working class guy my entire

00:18:01.800 life, but I have been on job sites.

00:18:04.840 I have worked manual labor in the Florida sun.

00:18:07.360 Uh, people will do this.

00:18:09.360 People in the United States will do this work.

00:18:11.960 If you pay them enough, if you pay them enough money, these jobs will get done.

00:18:17.580 A lot of guys who are sitting out and we don't talk about this enough, the, the, the workforce

00:18:22.340 participation rate, you know, it's not just unemployment.

00:18:26.360 It's the people who have completely dropped out of the economy and are not looking for jobs

00:18:30.620 anymore.

00:18:31.040 And the reason is because they simply know that they're not going to make any kind of wage.

00:18:35.720 It's going to be better than whatever government assistance they receive.

00:18:38.900 And so, yeah, these jobs aren't the first thing a lot of people would choose.

00:18:42.640 It's not great to make a living with your body for 20, 30 years.

00:18:47.300 It does have a certain wear and tear on your body.

00:18:50.060 You know, there are people, uh, who, who have to deal with that and it's not the first choice

00:18:55.320 for some people, but there are plenty of people who are happy to, you know, not everyone is

00:18:59.720 going to have an office job and that everyone wants to be inside staring at a laptop or,

00:19:05.060 you know, uh, mindlessly droning through their phone as people complain about what's on the

00:19:10.480 shelves at a retail outlet.

00:19:11.580 Like some people want to be outside.

00:19:13.120 Some people want to work with their hands and more people will want to do that and discover

00:19:17.220 the advantages of that if they can make an actual living wage office.

00:19:21.420 But this is always the retort that we hear.

00:19:23.860 Oh, but who's going to pick the cotton?

00:19:25.440 You know, we don't, we don't bring in the slave labor.

00:19:27.040 Or then what we, you know, Americans aren't going to do it.

00:19:29.380 We'll all just starve to death.

00:19:30.520 This is just garbage.

00:19:31.540 It's not true.

00:19:32.300 It's a lie.

00:19:32.820 And it's also incredibly cynical.

00:19:34.180 It shows you how little the left cares about workers, the working class, and even the well-being

00:19:39.660 of immigrants, right?

00:19:41.220 Because their only solution to this problem is, well, then we just legalize everybody.

00:19:45.200 Well, how does that help anyone?

00:19:46.560 How does that work with your argument?

00:19:48.100 Americans aren't going to do this slave labor job.

00:19:50.480 Also, we need to turn everyone in here into an American.

00:19:53.960 Okay.

00:19:54.320 So as soon as they become an American, they can't work for these under the table wages.

00:20:00.100 So what happens, right?

00:20:02.400 Like that, that doesn't make any sense.

00:20:04.620 Also, we are working towards automation.

00:20:06.880 We are actively looking to phase these style of jobs out.

00:20:11.060 The corporations are looking at these labor pools and they're saying, actually, it would

00:20:15.760 just be better if we could figure out how to get a machine to do this.

00:20:18.380 And you see many different advancements in these areas.

00:20:21.580 So if we are automating, automating, rather, sorry, so many of these jobs, and we are bringing

00:20:30.080 in vast numbers of illegal immigrants to do jobs, we are actively looking to eliminate.

00:20:34.540 What happens?

00:20:35.960 You know, what happens when you bring in tens of millions of people to do jobs you're phasing

00:20:41.080 out?

00:20:41.400 Well, we don't really need to be hypothetical about that.

00:20:45.000 We don't, we don't have to just cast about what the possible futures could be.

00:20:48.960 Look at places in Europe that have Muslim populations, large immigrant populations that

00:20:54.880 have come in where 40% or more of the young men are unemployed.

00:20:59.200 How's that working out for them?

00:21:00.740 Is that building a lot of social cohesion?

00:21:03.080 Is that really firing up their economics?

00:21:06.060 No, it's devastating.

00:21:08.180 It's, it's creating people with no purpose, no connection to the country, no interest in

00:21:14.940 integrating, no future that they can see.

00:21:17.620 And what do they get involved in?

00:21:18.800 They become terrorists.

00:21:19.940 They become gang members because that's what happens to young men who don't have jobs.

00:21:24.460 When you have young men who can't default into manual labor, they go to something like

00:21:29.700 crime.

00:21:30.120 There are certain numbers of people who could only do jobs like this and only want to do

00:21:36.640 jobs like this or only capable of doing jobs like this.

00:21:39.620 And you need to have them available so that they don't resort to crime because if they don't

00:21:44.380 have a future, if they don't have a way to be productive in society, that's what we're

00:21:47.780 going to do.

00:21:48.680 And so now we're moving a vast number of people who don't speak the language, who aren't connected

00:21:53.700 to the culture, who have a, uh, have a higher rate of bringing in things like fentanyl,

00:21:59.820 human trafficking, increasing the likelihood that we will see crime spikes across the United

00:22:04.820 States, increasing the cost of housing.

00:22:06.640 Because guess what?

00:22:07.580 Illegal immigrants don't just cross the border and then disappear.

00:22:10.940 They have to live somewhere.

00:22:12.060 And where do they live?

00:22:13.140 They live in the low income housing.

00:22:15.980 They go to the, uh, or to the starter housing that a lot of people rely on when they're

00:22:21.320 young or, or, or in the, uh, workforce and are trying to move their way up and haven't

00:22:26.340 built any wealth yet.

00:22:27.400 And they drive up the cost of that.

00:22:29.000 So now all the starter homes go up.

00:22:31.440 The cost of rent in apartments goes up.

00:22:34.740 All of the duplexes, places where a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford

00:22:38.500 housing in, you know, like a, like a four bedroom home, somewhere in a suburb, the places

00:22:43.320 where they go for housing, all of the prices explode in those areas, along with crime, along

00:22:48.720 with, you know, automobile accidents, all these other things that devastate those communities.

00:22:54.280 So now you're making it hard for a working, uh, age, uh, you know, a young man who wants

00:23:01.840 to get onto the ladder, doesn't have a lot of other prospects.

00:23:05.220 You're making it difficult for him to find a job.

00:23:07.280 If he can't find a job, he's got to fight for that job with a bunch of people who are

00:23:11.600 willing to do the work for extremely low wages.

00:23:14.680 And even when he finally makes that money, he has to go compete for housing with a bunch

00:23:19.340 of people, uh, who shouldn't be here.

00:23:21.640 And now the cost of that housing is skyrocketed.

00:23:23.740 That's not even addressing the, the, you know, the strain that is put on the school

00:23:27.420 system, the strain that is put on the medical care facilities, all of this, all of this,

00:23:33.180 but it all just disappears because say, Oh, it's good for the economy.

00:23:35.880 It's good for the economy.

00:23:37.220 Now I want to go to another video, uh, of Bill Clinton here talking again.

00:23:43.140 It sounds like Bill Clinton joined the Trump campaign from his talking points here, but

00:23:47.460 let's, let's play a video real quick of Bill Clinton discussing, uh, why he thinks we

00:23:53.140 need mass immigration.

00:23:54.480 Clatter.

00:23:55.320 When I found out my friend got a great deal on a designer dress from winners, I started

00:24:00.180 wondering, is every fabulous item I see from winners?

00:24:03.920 Like that woman over there with the Italian leather handbag.

00:24:07.160 Is that from winners?

00:24:08.380 Ooh, or that beautiful silk skirt.

00:24:10.900 Did she pay full price?

00:24:12.100 Or those suede sneakers?

00:24:13.680 Or that luggage?

00:24:14.780 Or that trench?

00:24:15.920 Those jeans?

00:24:16.500 That jacket, those heels.

00:24:18.000 Is anyone paying full price for anything?

00:24:21.180 Stop wondering, start winning.

00:24:23.380 Winners find fabulous for less.

00:24:25.960 A new direction to manage an immigration crisis in a tough time where there's all this upheaval

00:24:33.520 all over the world, where there are border problems all over the world, where millions

00:24:38.540 of people are trying to escape the misery they're in.

00:24:41.580 And other people are saying, well, I want to do what I can and take what I can, but maybe

00:24:47.140 there's a limit to how much we can do.

00:24:50.420 In other words, I don't think Americans are anti-immigration.

00:24:53.440 They're anti-chaos.

00:24:55.400 Right?

00:24:56.660 They, they don't want us to do more than we can.

00:25:00.440 So here, I'm going to continue this video in a second because it gets much worse for him.

00:25:03.980 But I do just want to point out the argument being made here is basically we should be for

00:25:07.760 immigration, whatever that means.

00:25:09.440 We should be for immigration.

00:25:11.480 Why?

00:25:13.200 No, no, no real case made just because other people are having a tough time somewhere else

00:25:17.580 in the world.

00:25:18.740 So in Bill Clinton's understanding, immigration, it's basically our job to absorb all people

00:25:25.380 across the world who are having a tough time, who live in a bad country.

00:25:28.820 I hate to tell you this, but there are a lot of people who live in bad countries.

00:25:32.160 In fact, many countries outside the United States are just terrible countries.

00:25:36.760 And you don't want to live there.

00:25:39.460 And so a lot of people would rather live here in the United States than in the countries where

00:25:44.240 they reside.

00:25:45.040 I get that.

00:25:46.160 If I was one of them, I would also want to live in the United States.

00:25:49.800 I don't blame people for wanting to live in a better country.

00:25:53.520 But it is our job to tell them no.

00:25:55.160 It is our job to tell them actually sorry.

00:25:57.520 One of the reasons our country is great is because it's full of Americans.

00:26:01.120 Americans and because it's going to be looking out for Americans.

00:26:04.660 And actually, we're going to focus on the well-being of the United States.

00:26:08.200 It's not our job to invite the rest of the world to come here and save them from every

00:26:13.880 place they don't like.

00:26:14.980 That's actually not the purpose of the United States.

00:26:17.040 The United States is a people.

00:26:19.000 It is a nation.

00:26:20.440 It's a way of life.

00:26:22.100 It is not just a zone where people who don't like the current country they're in can come

00:26:27.540 and collect benefits.

00:26:28.940 That's actually not what the United States is supposed to be.

00:26:31.180 But that's Bill Clinton's vision, right?

00:26:32.880 There's problems around the world.

00:26:34.960 And so really, we should just bring as many people in as possible.

00:26:38.780 Now, he says their people are against chaos.

00:26:42.240 All right, fair enough.

00:26:43.220 People are against chaos.

00:26:44.920 So what they really want is large-scale immigration, but just only as much as we can handle without

00:26:49.560 the wheels coming off.

00:26:51.440 Well, no, that's actually not what people want.

00:26:53.500 In fact, if you look at American polls, Americans are against immigration.

00:26:57.320 In fact, until about 20 years ago, even the left was rabidly against illegal immigration,

00:27:03.180 and the majority of Americans were very skeptical even about legal immigration.

00:27:07.540 And to this day, more Democrats actually want, you know, a large percentage, I should say,

00:27:13.820 of Democrats actually want deportations.

00:27:17.580 They're actually supportive of mass deportations.

00:27:20.500 So actually, no, Americans don't want this.

00:27:24.160 That's not true.

00:27:25.680 Bill Clinton is just lying about what Americans want.

00:27:28.240 They don't want legal or illegal immigration at a vast scale.

00:27:32.920 They just don't.

00:27:34.120 This is not just about illegal immigration.

00:27:36.100 Just because you wave your wand over immigrants and call them legal doesn't mean it's okay.

00:27:42.320 This is what a lot of people tried with the large amount of Haitian immigration into Ohio.

00:27:46.060 They're like, well, the Harris administration declared them under, you know, this like special

00:27:50.760 sanction, temporary legal.

00:27:52.680 They got this temporary protected status.

00:27:54.260 So it's all legal.

00:27:55.260 You can bring in the entire country of Haiti and it's all legal because we, you know, we

00:27:59.240 said so.

00:27:59.840 We put an app on people's phones.

00:28:01.580 I'm not joking.

00:28:02.220 I'm making this up.

00:28:03.340 This is how it works.

00:28:04.260 They put an app on people's phones.

00:28:05.520 They click a button.

00:28:06.520 They get the temporary status.

00:28:07.880 And now, boom, it's legal.

00:28:09.320 We can just fly them in, which the government literally does.

00:28:11.900 We just fly people in and say, you're, you're here legally now.

00:28:16.840 No, actually, Bill Clinton, that's not what anyone wants.

00:28:19.640 Even Democrats don't want this.

00:28:21.820 This is a project specifically by the ruling class for the ruling class has nothing to do

00:28:28.540 with what Americans, what benefits to Americans.

00:28:31.740 Sorry, but you know, we can pick our own food.

00:28:34.600 We will feed ourselves or we'll automate the process.

00:28:37.400 It'll be just fine.

00:28:39.220 And actually, those people in foreign countries who are in bad countries, I feel for them.

00:28:44.240 I'm sorry for them.

00:28:45.320 That's difficult.

00:28:46.480 I don't blame them for that.

00:28:48.040 But ultimately, sorry, that is not the job of this country.

00:28:51.440 It is not the job of this country to absorb every human being having a rough time.

00:28:55.760 That is not what the United States is for.

00:28:58.080 That's not what our immigration policy should be.

00:29:00.080 And it's not what the United States wants.

00:29:01.760 It's not what the people of America want, even people on the left for the most part.

00:29:06.340 But let's go back to his statements here.

00:29:08.340 But they recognize, at least most people do, we got the lowest birth rate we've had in

00:29:15.100 well over 100 years.

00:29:18.500 We're not at replacement level, which means we got to have somebody come here if we want

00:29:24.160 to keep growing the economy.

00:29:26.360 Unless one of you is one of these artificial intelligence geniuses and figured out how we

00:29:32.440 can all grow with no work.

00:29:33.720 Now, first, actually, yes, that is happening.

00:29:36.460 As you say, there is actually automation occurring.

00:29:38.920 So it's very stupid to rush out and fill our country with people just for the purpose of

00:29:45.100 bringing in people to do jobs that are literally being phased out as fast as possible as we

00:29:51.360 speak.

00:29:51.800 But you'll notice the more important thing there is he really gave up the game, right?

00:29:55.940 He said the thing you're not supposed to say.

00:29:58.620 Remember, the Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory.

00:30:01.880 It's not real.

00:30:03.000 It's completely made up by the right.

00:30:05.900 It's, you know, Tucker Carlson, you know, he dreamed it up in his propaganda lab somewhere,

00:30:10.920 probably with the help of Vladimir Putin, except actually Bill Clinton just told you

00:30:14.880 it's happening and it needs to happen.

00:30:16.860 Because this is what Democrats do all the time.

00:30:19.700 They call this a conspiracy theory and then they openly advocate for it and they give

00:30:23.760 their exact logic and their logic is we have to replace you.

00:30:27.780 We have to replace you.

00:30:29.040 Listen to what he said there and how nefarious it is, right?

00:30:32.840 Oh, well, you know, we don't have people at replacement rate.

00:30:37.540 We're not having enough babies.

00:30:38.740 People aren't having enough children.

00:30:40.080 Now, that is a problem.

00:30:41.420 And that's a problem worth addressing, right?

00:30:43.920 That is a serious issue for, especially when we have a system that is built on malignant

00:30:49.160 growth.

00:30:49.480 Now, I think we should build a system that is not built entirely around growth.

00:30:56.080 Actually, we should allow for the natural swelling and yes, contracting of populations

00:31:01.980 that are, it's normal to a lot of different civilizations.

00:31:06.360 It's not great that populations contract, but it is to a level, to a degree natural, at

00:31:12.080 least for a time.

00:31:12.860 We should probably build a system that is not just a Ponzi scheme.

00:31:16.100 We should probably not build a welfare state that is entirely dependent on us growing forever

00:31:22.840 in, you know, just in perpetuity.

00:31:24.780 That is not the way to build an economy, to build a system, to build a government.

00:31:29.820 So that's a problem with our system all by itself.

00:31:32.700 However, given that we do want to actually have replacement rates and when it comes to

00:31:40.420 births, we actually do want Americans to have a future.

00:31:44.840 Then we need to think about the problem of Americans and why they aren't doing that,

00:31:50.200 right?

00:31:50.360 We need to address this birth rate issue.

00:31:52.840 Now, this is a much wider discussion.

00:31:55.160 I'm not going to have it all now.

00:31:56.360 That's not the focus of this episode.

00:31:58.660 They might do this in the future.

00:32:01.440 But, you know, there are things that you can do to help, right?

00:32:05.000 There are policies in our government right now that are anti-family, anti-child.

00:32:10.660 One of them is mass immigration, by the way, because it's much harder for native-born Americans

00:32:15.400 to start families when they have to compete for healthcare, jobs, benefits, housing, all

00:32:23.520 these other things with people who aren't supposed to be here.

00:32:26.420 So your policies are actively anti-birth rate increase, right?

00:32:32.660 But it's not just about policies, right?

00:32:34.760 There are a lot of things we could do.

00:32:36.040 I think we should be pro-family.

00:32:37.600 I think we should encourage families.

00:32:38.900 I think we should think of ways in which we can reward people for having families, facilitate

00:32:45.220 the expansion of that.

00:32:47.400 But this is a much deeper spiritual issue, right?

00:32:51.620 Ultimately, this is not just a material problem.

00:32:54.500 You can, again, go back to ancient Rome.

00:32:56.860 You know, you had guys like Augustus, like Octavian, implement policies that punished Roman

00:33:07.100 men for not having children, right?

00:33:09.980 That was a huge thing that he tried to do because the Romans were having a similar problem when

00:33:15.860 it came to birth rates.

00:33:16.900 That was not ultimately successful.

00:33:18.800 If you look back at the Spartans, the Spartans had a policy where basically you were not actually

00:33:24.660 part of the society unless you took a wife.

00:33:28.040 That was something, if you were someone who refused to take a wife as a Spartan, that could

00:33:34.760 actually get you ostracized, you would lose the ability for certain social advancements,

00:33:40.200 these kind of things.

00:33:41.160 Now, we used to have these benefits kind of just culturally built in, right?

00:33:44.560 People didn't trust a president who didn't have children or a family.

00:33:48.160 You know, it would be if you weren't a family man in a business, that would be something that

00:33:52.440 was concerning for people.

00:33:53.580 They would say, what's going on with you?

00:33:55.200 You know, why aren't you participating in kind of this normal social behavior?

00:33:59.360 But ultimately, it's not just those negative features of social pressure.

00:34:04.180 It's also the positive.

00:34:05.380 Like, do Americans see themselves as a people with a future?

00:34:09.060 Do they see themselves as people on the ascent?

00:34:12.260 Do you, are you excited about the future and do you want to share it with another generation?

00:34:18.360 It's also a religious question.

00:34:19.820 Religious people just undeniably have more children.

00:34:22.200 You know, they are people who see themselves in a position where they are, they have a

00:34:29.620 duty to something higher than themselves.

00:34:31.320 They look to spread their faith, not just through conversions, but through procreation.

00:34:37.080 They are being fruitful and multiplying because it's a biblical injunction.

00:34:40.780 And so these are all issues that surround this.

00:34:42.960 But rather than address any of those, don't address the material, economic, social, spiritual,

00:34:48.800 don't address any of it.

00:34:50.120 Just replace the people.

00:34:51.460 Just replace the people.

00:34:53.340 Bring in new people to do the work.

00:34:55.480 And he says it point blank.

00:34:57.360 It's not a conspiracy theory.

00:34:59.140 It's not, you're not doing any kind of hypothetical here.

00:35:01.460 This is exactly what Bill Clinton wants.

00:35:04.300 It's exactly what he is demanding.

00:35:07.300 We have to import people or we just won't be able to keep the economy running.

00:35:12.840 Now, I'm young enough to remember, or old enough, I guess this is probably the right

00:35:17.160 way to do that phrase.

00:35:18.560 I am old enough to remember when this was, you know, a terrible thing for the left to

00:35:24.720 say.

00:35:24.920 Oh, it's only about an economic argument.

00:35:26.680 It's only about economics.

00:35:28.180 Who cares about the social?

00:35:29.620 Who cares about blah, blah, blah.

00:35:30.560 At the end of the day, all we care about is the cotton gets picked.

00:35:33.820 Right?

00:35:34.020 That's what he's saying.

00:35:35.060 At the end of the day, the cotton has to get picked.

00:35:37.660 And so we will import all the slave labor we need to pick the cotton.

00:35:42.520 And if you're not willing to do that, then you're, you know, part of this problem.

00:35:46.520 You know, you're, you're going to doom the economy.

00:35:48.380 That is the left wing argument here.

00:35:51.820 Now, I want to make it clear.

00:35:53.080 The right has been just as guilty of this, especially mainstream conservatives, neoconservative

00:35:57.820 economic stuff.

00:35:59.500 Right down.

00:36:00.100 You know, this, this is very much in that vein, right?

00:36:03.060 The Koch brothers, you know, Bernie Sanders used to say very correctly that this was, you

00:36:07.720 know, there's a Koch brothers conspiracy of open borders.

00:36:10.900 That's a libertarian right wing position.

00:36:13.180 Of course, Bernie Sanders eventually changed that tune because he wanted power or he thought

00:36:18.200 he would make a run inside the democratic party.

00:36:20.620 You know, they, they just stabbed him in the back.

00:36:22.600 He failed.

00:36:23.300 But ultimately, you know, he changed his tune because it's important on the left to pretend

00:36:28.840 like the economic reality of lowering people's wages through mass immigration isn't real.

00:36:34.540 You have to lie about that on the left.

00:36:36.520 Now that's just what they do.

00:36:37.560 They don't care about the workers.

00:36:38.740 They don't care about the working class.

00:36:39.920 They don't care about American wages.

00:36:41.760 They don't care about your ability to have a family or a home or pay for healthcare or

00:36:45.860 any of these things.

00:36:46.620 They want you dependent on the system.

00:36:48.600 They don't want you to be able to have that farm.

00:36:50.620 They don't want you to be able to have that, that proverbial farm, that independence, that

00:36:55.500 Jeffersonian idea of the, you know, the, the, the noble farmer in the United States earning

00:37:02.040 his place in the Republic.

00:37:03.220 They don't want that.

00:37:04.340 They do not.

00:37:04.900 That is exactly the opposite of what they want.

00:37:06.700 They want dependent people who require the state for their very existence and will vote

00:37:12.400 Democrat for the rest of history.

00:37:13.800 So they're just bringing them in.

00:37:15.440 They're just importing them.

00:37:17.220 And Bill Clinton just gives it away right here.

00:37:19.300 Like I said, it felt like he was campaigning for Trump.

00:37:21.880 Here's another video of him saying something quite amazing.

00:37:24.980 You had a case in Georgia not very long ago, didn't you?

00:37:27.360 They made an ad about, about a young woman who'd been killed by an immigrant.

00:37:31.260 Yeah, well, if they'd all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened.

00:37:38.480 But if they all properly vetted and that doesn't happen, I'm Donald J. Trump.

00:37:43.700 And I approve this message.

00:37:44.960 I love that someone just, uh, ended the Trump bumper in there at the end, like it, like it's

00:37:50.140 a Trump ad, but that's exactly right.

00:37:51.940 Right?

00:37:52.160 Like his, his, what he's trying to say here is, well, we have to bring everyone through

00:37:56.240 the process and it doesn't matter.

00:37:58.020 You know, we'll just bring in everyone through the process first.

00:38:00.420 No, you won't know.

00:38:02.000 You won't.

00:38:02.440 You can't process the people you have now.

00:38:04.240 It's not even close.

00:38:05.440 And we know we've seen the data.

00:38:07.820 We've seen the data from ice that actually, uh, we are letting in tens of millions or sorry,

00:38:16.500 tens of thousands of, uh, of rapists and murders.

00:38:21.100 We know this for a fact.

00:38:22.360 It's again, not speculation.

00:38:24.340 Ice has said this, right?

00:38:25.920 And those figures are probably low.

00:38:27.580 Those are the only the ones they're admitting to.

00:38:29.200 They said over half a million immigrants who came in, uh, under the, uh, the Biden Harris

00:38:37.120 regime were criminals and tens of thousands of them were either guilty of rape or, and,

00:38:44.020 and murder, or they were charged with it and, and had charges pending that is coming into

00:38:49.780 the United States.

00:38:50.360 And this, again, these are the people we know about.

00:38:52.740 You are not vetting people, even the people who are going through the process in theory

00:38:57.180 are not being vetted.

00:38:58.740 And we know this.

00:39:00.020 And he even admits if we, you know, if, if we, you know, we didn't have those people

00:39:03.300 here, Lincoln Riley would be alive today actually, but we didn't do that.

00:39:09.140 And we're not going to do that, but you should let these people in any way, because, well,

00:39:12.900 if you don't, then, uh, who's going to pick the cotton, right?

00:39:16.140 Lincoln, Lincoln Riley had to die because if you don't let people like Lincoln Riley

00:39:21.140 die, then who, you know, you won't, we won't have cheap vegetables, which, you know, your

00:39:25.940 food prices are skyrocketing anyway.

00:39:27.660 So it looks like all those cheap labor is actually not holding down your food prices, but whatever.

00:39:32.000 It doesn't matter.

00:39:32.800 We just throw these arguments out.

00:39:34.540 We don't, they don't have to have any basis in reality.

00:39:36.880 We don't really even think about them at this point.

00:39:38.700 We just repeat them ad nauseum.

00:39:40.620 We're just running down a talking point sheet.

00:39:43.120 It, it, it, even when, you know, they're on the stump speech and Bill Clinton can't even

00:39:47.360 deliver the talking points about vetting immigrants and the economic necessity of immigrants without

00:39:53.600 saying, by the way, yeah, they might murder your kids.

00:39:56.340 And yeah, by the way, they're probably going to replace you.

00:39:59.220 We actually, we need them to replace you.

00:40:00.560 It's good actually that they're doing that.

00:40:01.880 Like you can't even get through the talking points without admitting all of the actual conservative

00:40:07.160 or right-wing arguments against what is happening here, but they do it anyway.

00:40:11.700 Like they just, they just run down through it.

00:40:13.560 Now, this last video is probably the most amazing one.

00:40:17.700 Last Sunday doing the, the, the rounds, you know you have JD Vance on ABC and just, just

00:40:25.860 listen to this amazing moment.

00:40:28.820 Let me, let me play this amazing interview moment for you.

00:40:31.320 The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment conflicts, apartment complexes.

00:40:38.520 And the mayor said our dedicated police officers have acted on those concerns, a handful of

00:40:44.480 problems.

00:40:46.360 Only Martha, do you hear yourself?

00:40:49.000 Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs and Donald

00:40:54.600 Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's open border.

00:40:57.660 Americans are so fed up with what's going on and they have every right to be.

00:41:02.380 And I really find this exchange, Martha, sort of interesting because you seem to be more focused

00:41:08.220 with nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said rather than acknowledging that apartment

00:41:14.200 complexes in the United States of America are being taken over by violent gangs.

00:41:19.080 I worry so much more about that problem than anything else here.

00:41:23.800 We've got to get American communities in a safe space again.

00:41:26.920 And unfortunately, when you let people in by the millions, most of whom are unvetted,

00:41:32.480 most of whom you don't know who they really are, you're going to have problems like this.

00:41:37.260 Now, first I want to acknowledge before we even get to the content of the video, how good

00:41:42.260 JD Vance is at this.

00:41:43.820 And, um, you know, I supported JD Vance to be the vice presidential pick more or less from

00:41:49.520 the beginning.

00:41:49.900 As soon as his name was being floated on the shortlist, uh, I made that evident.

00:41:53.500 There's, there's multiple, uh, you know, recordings of me, episodes of me doing that tweets, whatnot.

00:41:58.560 You can check those, the receipts if you'd like.

00:42:01.480 But as soon as he got announced, there was this, this effort to say, Oh, JD Vance is weird.

00:42:06.360 JD Vance is weird.

00:42:07.760 And a lot of people on the right, especially the never Trump guys, like they're really,

00:42:11.820 really, uh, you know, bitter people who, uh, you know, just hate Trump and, and, and, and

00:42:17.320 MAGA stuff and are just constantly, they bought into this.

00:42:20.500 They're like, Oh yeah, JD Vance.

00:42:22.000 He's a, he's a, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, wait on the ticket.

00:42:25.180 He's gonna, he's gonna sink the ticket.

00:42:26.800 He's an anchor around Trump's neck, albatross, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:30.820 This was the line that even a lot of, uh, never Trump conservatives or, you know, people

00:42:35.720 who, who they don't call themselves never Trump, but you, you know, exactly what I'm talking

00:42:39.400 about, they, they gave us this idea that JD Vance was just a terrible pick and JD Vance

00:42:45.120 has proven over and over again, whether it's leaving Tim Waltz, basically six feet under

00:42:50.360 in their debate, or just throwing the media on their back on a regular basis, just judo

00:42:56.420 moving them over and over again with the, uh, with the most incredible ease.

00:43:02.200 He has proven himself to be an excellent choice, right?

00:43:05.400 He, he is in many ways better than Trump when it comes to handling the media.

00:43:10.920 And Trump is already very good at handling the media.

00:43:14.140 Trump handles the media in an adversarial way.

00:43:16.460 He makes fun of them.

00:43:17.220 He dismisses them very, you know, very effective, uh, you know, support that not, not, not knocking

00:43:22.360 that in any way, but JD Vance does it in the way that a lot of, um, how do we say, uh,

00:43:27.340 very upright, uh, stodgy conservatives wanted, right?

00:43:31.080 I want a very meaningful policy field retort.

00:43:35.040 I don't want Donald Trump making fun of people is a problem.

00:43:37.940 He rubs people the wrong way.

00:43:39.400 I want a policy-based, well, here's JD Vance, right?

00:43:43.820 If you still have a problem with the Trump campaign with JD Vance saying stuff like that,

00:43:48.180 turning the tables like that, then I think you're just not a Republican.

00:43:51.380 I think you're just not a conservative.

00:43:52.360 I think you're just not a right winger.

00:43:53.780 You should just go, just stop pretending like you care.

00:43:56.600 Like JD Vance is giving you exactly what you want, right?

00:43:59.200 He's effective at reframing, rejecting the frame of the media, and then flipping it and

00:44:05.100 coming around and saying, actually, you're the problem.

00:44:07.600 He does it over and over again.

00:44:09.180 He does it extremely effectively.

00:44:10.520 And the fact that people, you know, we're down on him about this.

00:44:15.040 We're like trying to run him out of the race.

00:44:16.440 We're saying, oh, Trump's got to panic.

00:44:18.160 You know, the internal polls are bad.

00:44:19.340 He's got to pick someone else.

00:44:21.040 People are stupid.

00:44:22.240 You should discount.

00:44:22.940 If someone said that, you should remember that when they then give you another piece

00:44:27.720 of political commentary, when they then give you another piece of political advice.

00:44:31.440 They were wrong.

00:44:32.500 They were dumb.

00:44:33.820 They were embarrassing.

00:44:34.960 And they were, in most cases, motivated because they were just, they had a large amount

00:44:39.620 of malice towards Trump and his voters.

00:44:41.760 JD Vance is exactly what you pretended you wanted Trump to be.

00:44:45.080 And you're still angry.

00:44:46.660 Go cry somewhere.

00:44:47.880 He's great.

00:44:48.520 Okay.

00:44:49.100 Enough of praising Vance's performance here.

00:44:52.940 The actual answer is really important because as he points out to this host, this ABC host,

00:44:58.820 she says, oh, well, they said it's just a handful.

00:45:01.420 It's just a handful of apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado.

00:45:05.220 I'd like to be very clear.

00:45:06.300 The correct number of apartment complexes being owned by foreign gangs, being controlled by

00:45:14.080 foreign gangs, being turned into no-go zones by foreign gangs in the United States is zero.

00:45:20.600 Is zero.

00:45:22.940 That is my politics.

00:45:24.900 You want to boil my politics down?

00:45:27.360 There you go.

00:45:28.720 Okay.

00:45:29.320 There are a lot of very important issues in our society.

00:45:31.940 I support a wide array of things to address them.

00:45:38.460 But if I'm going to be a single issue voter, here's my single issue.

00:45:44.340 No apartment complex in the United States should be owned by a foreign gang.

00:45:49.520 No American should have to fear Venezuelan gangs or huge populations of Haitian migrants in

00:45:58.880 their hometown, controlling areas and making it impossible for them to live their lives.

00:46:04.060 That should not happen in the United States.

00:46:07.880 And the United States military should be deployed at the border to stop this.

00:46:13.220 Every police officer should have the ability to immediately remove someone on the basis of

00:46:19.720 their immigration status and get them deported immediately, not through a number of hearings

00:46:25.440 and are this, this person contributing and do they have family here?

00:46:27.940 No, gone.

00:46:28.980 Out.

00:46:29.820 Deported.

00:46:30.700 Mass deportations.

00:46:32.000 Gone.

00:46:32.940 These people should not be in the United States and the most certainly should not be

00:46:36.940 threatening the lives of humans in the United States.

00:46:41.200 The people of the United States deserve to live in safety.

00:46:44.880 They deserve a neighborhood where their kids can grow up and play outside, where they can

00:46:50.220 ride their bike and not be scared.

00:46:52.680 I remember, I'm not that old.

00:46:54.600 I'm getting older.

00:46:55.480 I got the gray, you know, but I'm not that old.

00:46:57.420 I remember being able to ride the bike across town, go miles and miles.

00:47:02.260 In my hometown and my parents didn't think about it twice because we lived in a high

00:47:07.180 trust society, a safe place.

00:47:09.300 There were no Venezuelan gangs holding up apartments in the places where I grew up.

00:47:16.140 It just didn't exist.

00:47:17.760 It wasn't real.

00:47:19.100 We don't have to live like this.

00:47:20.880 This is not a mistake.

00:47:22.120 This is a active policy decision.

00:47:24.320 And you see how the host just brushes it off.

00:47:26.920 Oh, it's just a few, right?

00:47:29.140 It's just a, it's just a few apartment complexes.

00:47:32.660 Being controlled by foreign gangs.

00:47:34.500 It's just a few rapes.

00:47:36.040 It's just a few murders.

00:47:37.400 It's just a few fentanyl deaths.

00:47:39.820 It's just a few children being human trafficked.

00:47:42.600 It's just a few neighborhoods being completely obsolesced by foreign populations being brought

00:47:48.860 in.

00:47:49.180 It's just a few people who can't afford housing because it's skyrocketed.

00:47:53.680 It's just a few people who can't get health care because they are at the back of the line

00:47:57.860 behind illegal immigrants subsidized by the United States.

00:48:01.260 It's just a few.

00:48:03.600 Well, it's not just a few.

00:48:04.840 Actually, it's a massive amount and we know it.

00:48:07.000 We know it's a lie.

00:48:08.100 But even if it wasn't a lie, even if it was just a handful, that would be enough.

00:48:12.720 That would be enough.

00:48:14.260 That would be enough to change everything.

00:48:16.400 It would be worth it just to save the people in that situation.

00:48:20.580 But it's not just a few and they know it.

00:48:23.920 And that's what J.D. Vance is calling out here.

00:48:25.920 And he's absolutely right to do it.

00:48:28.160 These people are liars.

00:48:29.660 They are malicious liars.

00:48:31.980 That ABC host hates you.

00:48:34.980 She does not care if your kids die because they don't get health care.

00:48:38.080 She does not care if you cannot afford housing.

00:48:40.760 She does not care if an illegal immigrant murders your child.

00:48:43.780 She does not care if your kid dies from an OD that came through, you know,

00:48:49.100 laced drug drugs, laced with fentanyl that came through a drug mule.

00:48:51.800 She does not care.

00:48:54.000 In fact, as we see from Bill Clinton, maybe you deserve it.

00:48:59.300 Maybe that's just the cost of the economy, right?

00:49:02.780 You don't want to do a job for slave labor.

00:49:04.860 You actually want to make enough money to pay for health care and pay for a house

00:49:09.460 when you work a job.

00:49:10.960 Well, then you should just be replaced.

00:49:12.840 I mean, you're not voting Democrat anyway, right?

00:49:15.080 Yeah.

00:49:15.320 Well, then we definitely want to replace you.

00:49:17.660 Bill Clinton just comes out and say it.

00:49:19.340 This host just comes out and says it.

00:49:22.460 Well, that's just the part, you know, part of life now.

00:49:26.620 As the, I think it was Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London,

00:49:29.720 that's part and parcel of living in a city now.

00:49:32.640 No, it's not.

00:49:34.020 No, that's not just a concept.

00:49:35.540 It's not just the way things are.

00:49:37.720 It's not this, you know, I think the Covfefe Anon is a great Twitter poster.

00:49:42.840 And he's got this thing about the liberal passive voice,

00:49:46.960 how leftists are always speaking as if things just happen to them.

00:49:51.260 Oh, well, you know, here we are.

00:49:52.940 That's just the way things are.

00:49:54.480 This part and parcel of living in a society like this.

00:49:57.120 It's just a few apartment complexes.

00:49:59.120 That's what you've got to do.

00:50:00.000 It's the cost of doing business to have a functioning economy.

00:50:02.460 No, it's not.

00:50:03.720 No, it's not.

00:50:04.820 You are not a victim here.

00:50:06.380 This is not a force of nature.

00:50:08.240 This is not something you have to do.

00:50:09.600 You are choosing to do this.

00:50:11.500 You are choosing to hurt Americans.

00:50:13.300 You are choosing to let foreign gangs literally conquer.

00:50:18.300 That's okay.

00:50:18.920 If you don't understand this, I don't know how to explain it more clearly,

00:50:22.260 but I'll do my best.

00:50:23.420 These gangs are conquering the United States in the most real way possible.

00:50:30.000 When you hold territory that American citizens cannot enter or cannot safely occupy,

00:50:37.640 and you are a collection of foreigners, you have conquered that area.

00:50:43.200 Okay?

00:50:43.440 Again, we can look at nations like Sweden.

00:50:46.180 We can look like other European nations who have this scenario.

00:50:49.420 They've imported so many people who always seem to move together.

00:50:53.580 It's a funny thing about this immigration.

00:50:55.120 It's never one or two people assimilating into the wider culture.

00:50:58.640 It's always large blocks of people from the same region, the same ethnicity, the same nationality,

00:51:04.740 moving into an area, creating a ghetto, a culture that is their own, a space that is their

00:51:10.800 own, taking and pushing out all others.

00:51:14.560 That's always the plan.

00:51:16.600 And in these areas in Europe, there are these no-go zones, no-go zones.

00:51:20.620 You just can't go in as a police officer because they don't control that area more.

00:51:24.140 That area is effectively conquered with the assent of the government.

00:51:28.320 The government has said, we were going to move populations in, and then we're going to

00:51:31.480 make it more or less illegal to police those populations.

00:51:33.900 If you police those populations, you're a racist.

00:51:35.760 You'll get fired.

00:51:36.480 You'll get thrown in jail.

00:51:38.060 All of these things, if you notice that these populations are dangerous,

00:51:40.740 you're, you're a racist, you're going to get fired.

00:51:42.360 You're going to lose your ability to have a bank account.

00:51:44.300 You're not going to be able to speak in public.

00:51:46.620 Like this is, this is the regime we actually live under.

00:51:50.100 This is the way that Americans are actually treated.

00:51:52.620 And we can see where this goes in different European countries.

00:51:56.400 So the fact that she's just like, oh, well, it's just a few, no, no.

00:51:59.880 Just a few areas being conquered by illegal immigrant gangs is a problem.

00:52:04.800 That is a, it's not just a, a small happenstance.

00:52:09.300 And the fact that this is all being facilitated by the government, this would not be happening

00:52:13.460 if we did not have an explicit open borders policy.

00:52:16.560 Kamala Harris doesn't need a single bill passed.

00:52:19.340 Joe Biden doesn't need a single bill passed to police the border.

00:52:23.320 They do not.

00:52:24.720 In fact, they actively removed Trump's executive orders that allowed them to do that.

00:52:29.660 They don't care if the borders open, they are not fighting against a, an open border.

00:52:35.600 They're not just failing to do their job.

00:52:37.460 They are maliciously facilitating a hostile invasion of the United States.

00:52:44.400 That's what they're doing.

00:52:45.900 And they are subsidizing it with your money.

00:52:48.500 They are stealing your tax money that should be paying for your children's healthcare, your

00:52:52.960 children's education, your ability to have a safe, a safe place to raise your family.

00:52:58.620 They are stealing that money and they are using it to subsidize the invasion of literally

00:53:04.500 apartment complexes where working class people should be living.

00:53:08.260 That is what they are doing.

00:53:09.580 That is what the government is doing.

00:53:11.020 And the fact that people like this host, this ABC host are so incredibly callous that they,

00:53:18.260 they would even say a phrase like that.

00:53:20.880 They are so wildly out of touch because they know they are never going to face the consequences

00:53:25.140 because they have enough social privilege and enough money to avoid this, right?

00:53:30.140 The, the old joke is, uh, you know, the college is there, like, uh, elite colleges are there

00:53:35.740 to give you the right opinion about diversity and enough money to avoid the consequences.

00:53:40.900 And that is exactly what has happened here.

00:53:42.920 This is a woman who will never live in a neighborhood that is overrun by illegal immigrant crime.

00:53:49.500 She will never not be able to get a home or afford rent for her family because they have

00:53:56.580 all skyrocketed because illegal immigrants have taken over the working class housing in

00:54:00.740 her area.

00:54:01.300 She will never fail to get a job that will support, uh, her family or her lifestyle because

00:54:07.980 an illegal immigrant has coming in and taken that job and made that, uh, working that job

00:54:12.840 for half price under the table.

00:54:14.020 She will never face any of these consequences.

00:54:16.660 And in the rare situations where they do, many of these people become basically neoconservatives

00:54:22.400 and a Kasparian of the young Turks.

00:54:25.020 I predicted over a year ago that she was on the trajectory to basically become one of these.

00:54:29.980 I'm not the, the, I didn't leave the left, left, left me neoconservative types.

00:54:34.020 I know there's another connotation with Zionism and, and, and stuff.

00:54:37.540 And, but I'm speaking specifically simply, you know, simply about the old line, a, uh,

00:54:42.760 neoconservative is a liberal who got mugged.

00:54:45.320 And so there are some of these people like Anna Kasparian who are basically sprinting

00:54:48.820 to the right at this point because they felt the effects of, of violent crime, because

00:54:53.100 they affect, uh, the effects of lawlessness have actually impacted them and their community.

00:55:00.200 So maybe some of these people will eventually run into some kind of reality and realize,

00:55:04.440 oh, actually we do need some level of law and order.

00:55:07.040 And actually maybe open borders aren't the best thing for us.

00:55:10.040 But ultimately many of these people will simply continue to push these policies because they're

00:55:16.400 never going to feel the pain, or at least they'll be eaten last.

00:55:20.240 And until then it sustains their lifestyle and keeps them in power.

00:55:23.260 And that's all they care about.

00:55:24.600 All right, guys, we're going to move over to the questions of the people here.

00:55:30.780 Got a few super chats.

00:55:33.280 Creeper weirdo says, what do you mean?

00:55:35.160 You want fair elections and no glorified slave underclass.

00:55:38.800 We have to care about the native populace, uh, the smart left.

00:55:43.120 Yeah.

00:55:43.300 Again, this, this is the attitude they take over and over again.

00:55:46.280 This is the way they approach this.

00:55:48.320 And the, the hilarious thing is basically every one of their arguments boils down to,

00:55:52.720 to one of two things.

00:55:54.340 Someone's got to pick the cotton and you deserve to be replaced.

00:55:57.640 These are their, their, their two real arguments for legal immigration.

00:56:01.740 They might make other ones, but if you listen to them long enough, they always default to

00:56:05.640 one, uh, one of those two or both.

00:56:08.080 Sorry, we have to have slave labor and, or you deserve to be replaced by that slave labor.

00:56:13.960 That, that, that is exactly how they try to sell this at the end of the day or justify

00:56:18.420 it at the end of the day.

00:56:20.220 Uh, Florida Henry says, it seems to me that a concentration of wealth causes birth collapse

00:56:24.580 of Sparta and Rome.

00:56:25.880 And now America, there is a very real point here.

00:56:29.560 And this is a, a serious problem that has to be addressed.

00:56:33.460 There is, um, you know, the, the idea of wealth inequality is often very overblown by

00:56:39.980 the left, right?

00:56:40.620 There is a, uh, a level at which, uh, this is kind of just jealousy rhetoric coming out

00:56:46.520 of the left, but there is also a certain point at which we need to recognize that the system

00:56:51.480 is being gamed only for a wealthy few.

00:56:54.460 And that does create a situation in which people simply don't want children.

00:56:58.460 They simply don't have children.

00:57:00.020 Now, to be clear, abundance also seems to be a part of this formula.

00:57:04.380 Actually, the more affluent and modernized people have it, uh, often the, the fewer children,

00:57:09.760 uh, they have as well.

00:57:10.980 In fact, there are many situations that, you know, you can think of, you know, many countries

00:57:14.720 where, uh, some kind of Sultan is a multi-zillionaire, right?

00:57:18.700 They're making tons of money off of, uh, you know, the oil or whatever, and then the rest

00:57:23.340 of their country's in poverty, but they still have, um, more children than people in the

00:57:27.900 United States, right?

00:57:29.420 Uh, even though they're in, in the wealth concentration, the disparity in wealth is much

00:57:33.600 higher there.

00:57:34.300 Uh, you can even think, you know, look at a place like, uh, like North versus South Korea.

00:57:38.800 The birth rates in North Korea are higher than they are in South Korea.

00:57:42.300 Now that doesn't mean I'd want to live in North Korea, but you know, there's obviously

00:57:46.540 terrible conditions that people live there, uh, you know, in there, you know, the, the,

00:57:50.820 the material conditions of people who are in the ruling class in North Korea are vastly

00:57:55.800 superior to anyone in, you know, the, the, the average populace in North Korea, but they're

00:58:01.460 still having more children than people in South Korea, even though those people are much

00:58:04.840 more affluent.

00:58:05.540 Now that doesn't mean there aren't wealth disparity issues in South Korea, but my point being is

00:58:09.200 I agree with you, Florida, Henry, that is an issue and it is something that should be

00:58:12.900 addressed and we should take it seriously.

00:58:14.180 But I think also we need to, you know, if we, if we look at the totality of the situation,

00:58:18.860 if we look at counter examples, we can point to the fact that this is not the only cause,

00:58:23.540 you know, it's not monocausal.

00:58:24.960 Uh, the, the, this is a problem that pops up in the civilizations you're citing.

00:58:29.160 And it's something we should think about.

00:58:30.660 We should address.

00:58:31.340 We shouldn't, you know, do the, what is often the conservative approach of just being like,

00:58:34.960 well, that does, it doesn't matter.

00:58:36.560 We just don't care about any of the, you know, any of this, uh, concentration of wealth because,

00:58:40.780 uh, you know, you should be able to just make as much money, whatever.

00:58:43.360 And it, it never matters, but at the same time, we don't want to just then default to the politics

00:58:49.520 of greed and grievance.

00:58:51.980 Uh, and, and instead, uh, you know, realize that the problem you're facing again is, is,

00:58:58.460 has many different causes and is as much spiritual as it is economic.

00:59:03.580 So that we should address material causes to the extent that they are involved, but many

00:59:09.500 states have actually, and many governments have actually involved themselves in trying

00:59:13.720 to solve this problem.

00:59:14.540 And it doesn't necessarily fix the issue.

00:59:19.640 Uh, tiny Rick says, even if Trump and Vance win, there's so much damage at the ground level,

00:59:24.320 people are broken and aimless.

00:59:25.740 The spiritual sickness isn't going to disappear even with our guys in office.

00:59:28.780 And that's exactly right.

00:59:29.780 We need to recognize that Trump and Vance getting to office, if that happens, is only

00:59:34.780 a breather.

00:59:35.660 It's only, it's only a space.

00:59:37.580 It creates space for us to solve this problem, but it does not solve the problem.

00:59:41.260 And that's why I want people, you know, do I want Trump and Vance to win?

00:59:44.880 Yes, absolutely.

00:59:46.080 But ultimately our, our problems are much deeper and we need to be prepared to solve these

00:59:52.080 on a local level and we need to be able to solve these on a regional level and we need

00:59:56.300 to focus on the spiritual aspects along with the material.

00:59:59.620 If we simply sit here and say, Oh, we elected Trump.

01:00:02.180 That'll fix everything.

01:00:03.160 Well, then you're just falling into the same trap that conservatives have fallen into for

01:00:06.400 decades.

01:00:07.280 Oh, Reagan's in power.

01:00:08.080 We're just fine.

01:00:08.660 Bush is in power.

01:00:09.280 We're going to be fine.

01:00:10.200 No, actually things were actively being undermined.

01:00:13.340 Things were getting worse.

01:00:14.200 Even though someone you elected was in power, sometimes it was their fault.

01:00:18.460 Sometimes it wasn't, but either way, it is not simply enough to elect a

01:00:22.040 leader than say, Oh, wash my hands, walk away.

01:00:24.380 That is terrible.

01:00:25.820 That, that mindset is terrible.

01:00:27.640 We have to recognize that these changes have to be made in our communities, in our

01:00:31.120 churches, in our families, at the societal level or at each level of society, not just,

01:00:38.260 Oh, we elected someone at the, you know, that that's going to give us a little bit of

01:00:41.320 breathing room in the federal bureaucracy.

01:00:43.240 That that's not enough.

01:00:44.080 That's, that's important.

01:00:45.300 You know, if JD Vance and Trump can create space for us by, you know, uh, protecting these

01:00:51.300 populations by, uh, reducing federal, uh, intervention in the lives of people, by keeping the state

01:00:58.720 from actively, uh, you know, prosecuting its political enemies like that.

01:01:02.760 That's great.

01:01:03.280 Right?

01:01:03.520 Like those are all things that we want.

01:01:05.320 We want the borders closed, right?

01:01:06.660 Like that, that's huge.

01:01:07.660 And that's something that the federal government can do.

01:01:09.920 That is harder for state governments to do.

01:01:11.820 But ultimately we need this all across the board strategy.

01:01:15.260 And we, we have to recognize that it's not enough to just elect people.

01:01:18.300 Um, uh, silly cat says, thanks for one of the best channels on YouTube.

01:01:23.420 Well, thank you very much.

01:01:24.440 I appreciate that.

01:01:25.420 I do my best.

01:01:26.160 There's a lot of really great, uh, channels on YouTube, a lot of great commentators.

01:01:30.220 I try to bring as many of them on as I can.

01:01:32.800 Uh, you know, a lot of people I really respect, uh, and I am just incredibly grateful to have

01:01:37.660 an amazing audience, to have the opportunity to, to do this, uh, for a living.

01:01:42.540 And you know, it's a couple of years ago, I couldn't have dreamed of this being a real

01:01:46.760 thing.

01:01:47.040 So, uh, I, I'm humbled and I appreciate those that make it possible, including you guys.

01:01:52.460 Uh, and you know, most, especially you guys, uh, dash here says the birth rate, birth rate

01:01:57.820 difference of the two careers appears to be that communism is more sustainable than liberalism.

01:02:03.740 You know, uh, again, I wouldn't make that the, the, I wouldn't make the monocausal argument,

01:02:08.980 right?

01:02:09.620 I don't think it's just communism versus liberalism there.

01:02:12.340 Uh, you know, the birth rates also ended up being a problem in communist countries too.

01:02:17.700 Uh, uh, I think there are larger effects of modernity that have to be taken into, uh, account.

01:02:23.300 I, I really, I believe in my bones, uh, and this is what makes me a real reactionary and not,

01:02:28.980 not truly a neo reactionary probably.

01:02:31.380 I believe in my bones, uh, and I don't have, you know, the, there are probably mountains of

01:02:36.500 evidence that one day I'll accumulate, but I don't have it all to lay out before you.

01:02:40.340 But I do think in some way, modernity is the great filter that there is a level of

01:02:44.980 complexity that society simply cannot achieve without ultimately undermining the identity

01:02:51.140 and place and reason for being that people require.

01:02:55.220 And I think the scale of society has, has devastated, uh, a large amount of our ability

01:03:00.820 to kind of see ourselves in the future and connect ourselves into a great chain of being

01:03:05.460 that makes us feel like we need to perpetuate our existence, our way of being in, into the future.

01:03:11.700 That said, I think there is a real point.

01:03:14.020 I think there is a valuable thing to look at, you know, those North Korea versus South Korean

01:03:19.300 examples and say, maybe there is a problem with hyper competitive, uh, hyper individualistic

01:03:28.500 societies there, there might actually be, um, you know, some serious implications

01:03:35.940 or the kind of lifestyle that South Korea has implemented.

01:03:39.300 And that doesn't mean that North Korea is, is better in a very real sense, but it does mean

01:03:44.340 that we need to think about that because, you know, there are places like the United States,

01:03:48.020 which is still, as Bill Clinton pointed out, not doing great on the birth rate front,

01:03:52.100 but it's still doing better, much better than a place like South Korea.

01:03:55.700 So even though South Korea, uh, has a different economy than, uh, North Korea, uh, in many cases,

01:04:03.540 some of the places that have a economy different than North Korea still have better birth rates

01:04:07.940 than North Korea. So it's not like, Oh, communism just fixes this problem.

01:04:11.540 And then Robert Weinsfeld here with just the super chat donation. Thank you very much, sir.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - October 16, 2024

'But Who Will Pick the Cotton？' The Liberal Case for Mass Immigration ｜ 10⧸16⧸24

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