The Auron MacIntyre Show - Can Blue America Be Saved？｜ Guest： Dave Greene ｜ 6⧸19⧸26

00:00:00.560 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I've got a great

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00:00:26.520 today that's blaze tv.com slash oran to get 20 off today well guys i often find myself speaking

00:00:35.720 with my buddy dave green about red states versus blue states who will ultimately be the new elite

00:00:41.740 how will cultural culture be influenced we were having this discussion around the 250th celebration

00:00:48.400 for the united states what acts are bringing in what events are being honored what symbols

00:00:52.720 are being elevated and how we should think about it and i thought hey this would be a really good

00:00:56.960 conversation for my audience to hear so joining me today to discuss this is of course dave green

00:01:01.880 thank you so much for coming on man thank you so much it was good to see you at the last conference

00:01:06.020 we're at and i'm glad to finally have the the conversation on the internet yeah i figured i'd

00:01:11.840 give you a little bit of discourse i know how you love the discourse and i didn't even wear

00:01:15.600 a corn uh cob costume that you are so accustomed to your ceremonial corn cob costume never lived

00:01:22.420 that one down to be fair you shouldn't so that's that's one of those legendary internet moments

00:01:28.580 that uh you know you just get to put that one in your resume uh going forward but um that said

00:01:34.420 you and i have uh you know a lot of agreement lots of overlap i want to be clear you know i'm sure

00:01:40.800 most people know this but uh you know i learned a lot of where i went from uh kind of your early

00:01:46.140 channel so before we get into this i just want to remind people dave and i are like good friends

00:01:51.140 who agree on 95 percent of things and we're just trying to hash out this last little five percent

00:01:55.480 because we respect each other's opinions on this stuff but uh we do kind of disagree on the

00:02:01.120 direction that must be taken i think for american culture and uh you know i don't want to define any

00:02:08.220 of your views uh so let's just begin with the 250th as maybe like an example and we can just

00:02:15.080 jump off of that there I look at what the Trump administration is doing with the 250th and I think

00:02:22.840 their first instinct was to try to have like big events they wanted to have music artists and these

00:02:28.800 kind of things I think we all kind of saw how that fell through I mean when Millie Vanilli won't do

00:02:33.080 your concert that's a rough hit uh because you only got one of them too right yeah Vanilli's

00:02:38.440 already done and and Millie's known for not even singing the song so that's that's it when they

00:02:42.940 won't show up that's a rough loss that said uh they kind of pivoted to this lean into the americana

00:02:49.860 thing right ufc fights motocross bikes uh rodeos uh you know bald eagles flying around uh the

00:02:57.760 audience these kind of things and i think that that was actually a wise decision because you

00:03:03.080 have a scenario where look the left owns so many of these cultural markers and you're not going to

00:03:08.500 be able to get them to show up and perform you're just not going to get them to engage with the

00:03:13.220 administration they're going to fight you at every turn so rather than trying to fight for those

00:03:17.020 pieces of culture you don't control and display those as something that should kind of stand for

00:03:22.220 your country why not at least lean into the things that your base the people who would vote for you

00:03:27.980 and the people who let's be honest mostly love the country anyway into kind of the things that

00:03:33.500 they see as their cultural symbols what's what's your response to that yeah well first of all you

00:03:37.920 absolutely right this is uh i if i were the trump administration i would not attempt to

00:03:44.160 put on a cultural celebration that would please my class because they couldn't pull it off

00:03:49.040 they would have they would even if they got initial agreements they would be rug pulled at

00:03:53.040 the last minute because all forces inside the establishment would converge to try to humiliate

00:03:59.360 them and and kind of take it out of their hands and put them on the spot so from practical point

00:04:05.200 of view this is absolutely what what they should be doing is kind of walking into americana because

00:04:10.320 that's really the only thing that they they can do um the problem though is that it does represent

00:04:16.080 sort of a missed opportunity it i mean obviously is a signal of the weakness of the of the country

00:04:22.720 at large it's sort of a humiliating thing that we have to do this it symbolizes that america is weak

00:04:27.600 and you know let's be clear it's not weak because red america is weak it's weak because blue america

00:04:32.320 is weak and blue america is weak because you said it yourself this is sort of the critical thing

00:04:37.760 that you have to understand at the 250th anniversary of this country blue america doesn't

00:04:41.760 like america anymore and this is not something i'm just making up the cnn was covering this

00:04:46.160 last night with this i forgot where they got the actual polling number but all polling stations

00:04:51.520 are reporting this so if you go back to the 90s and certainly this would be even more so in the

00:04:56.640 the 70s when we did our 200th anniversary it was like republicans were like 95 patriotic like

00:05:02.640 deeply feel like they're american the democrats were 90 85 to 90 so it was like a 10 difference

00:05:08.420 these days the difference is like basically 90 so there's a slight decrease among republicans and

00:05:16.020 then in the 30s it's not even it's it's it's nothing it's it's unusual to be patriotic from

00:05:22.800 the democratic side such to the point that leads us in this situation where you you have our major

00:05:29.300 elite cultural institutions who are more interested in rug pulling donald trump than they are actually 0.70

00:05:34.980 in making sure that america has a a commemoration of itself that it has a sense of itself as a 0.65

00:05:42.540 country and if you are if you are having a 250th birthday don't you want your country to feel good

00:05:50.020 about itself to remember it fondly even if you don't even if you don't like the president in

00:05:54.180 charge isn't the legacy of the country more important than the political project of the

00:05:58.880 given administration and the answer from the left is absolutely no so so this is a huge blow to

00:06:05.060 america because people notice this people notice this this is one thing that is um it is the right

00:06:11.000 move for the trump administration to walk into sort of the uh middle class americana the americana

00:06:17.300 of late 20th century middle-class consumerism.

00:06:21.500 You know, not that I don't like it.

00:06:23.420 I do kind of like you of, say, you know, I'm a guy.

00:06:26.500 I do kind of like motorsports.

00:06:27.800 It's not my biggest thing, 0.88

00:06:28.760 but everyone notices the absence of blue America. 0.59

00:06:31.700 Everyone notices the fact that America

00:06:33.780 is known worldwide as being a cultural,

00:06:37.040 sounds weird to say a cultural superpower,

00:06:39.980 a mega power or whatever,

00:06:41.180 but that's what they're known for.

00:06:42.340 People have used that terminology before.

00:06:44.880 And all of those assets are not on display

00:06:47.260 when it comes to displaying america at its 250th birthday which means that its cultural power

00:06:52.780 is divided and kind of wasting away and it's wasting away due to look i'm not pointing fingers 0.56

00:07:00.160 actually i am the blame for this lies with blue america but in in in support of this blame it

00:07:08.060 also means that the only way to repair this and the only way to reverse it begins in some ways

00:07:14.960 in blue america and uh you know i i don't know exactly where you want to take this we could go

00:07:20.000 in a lot of different directions but when when you can always see this inside elites and maybe i'll

00:07:25.760 just offer this tidbit um whenever there is the sound of some kind of revolution happening from

00:07:31.360 inside one of their core constituencies in in um in in blue america the the american establishment

00:07:38.480 is shaken to its core case in point like the bay area rationalists not so much you know i think

00:07:44.480 they're kind of more par for the courts culturally but dime square i mean dime square in new york

00:07:49.440 which is a defunct cultural space there i think they're done uh or you know they're associated

00:07:53.760 with the podcast red scare i need to emphasize how incredibly small this group of people is it

00:07:58.960 would be it's probably less than your concurrent viewers would be for this video it is a minuscule

00:08:05.200 space of of actual creators when it was at its prime uh everybody in the cultural creation spheres

00:08:13.280 in hollywood in new york in san francisco they all knew who red scare was and they were living

00:08:21.840 rent free in their imaginations the possibility that there would be an insurgent right-wing

00:08:28.880 movement inside blue america's you know in this case it was just counter-cultural spaces

00:08:35.280 was something that shook the cultural making elite to its core and in many ways when you see hollywood

00:08:42.080 movies you can see them kind of responding to like anna and dasha like implicitly speaking

00:08:47.680 and uh and and you see this sort of everywhere and you'll see this in the the movies made by 0.98

00:08:54.320 zoomers these days uh the culture of the late 20th century is fun and it's raw and it's vital 0.90

00:09:01.040 but it's also something that our elites know how to process and process in a very unthreatening way 0.97

00:09:05.760 and it is not something that indicates that there is an actual mounting counter elite

00:09:11.700 waiting in the wings which is what they genuinely fear and um you know i don't want to ramble too

00:09:18.880 much but this indicates to me that i think well the vitality of any kind of new america will

00:09:24.840 obviously come from red america just because it will be the vast vast vast vast vast majority of

00:09:29.760 people thinking in any healthy direction come from red america uh the spark has to sort of begin

00:09:35.760 either in europe or in blue america and and that is sort of and and right now we don't have a spark

00:09:42.240 right now there is an absence right now we're just kind of waiting around for something new to happen

00:09:46.720 in these areas because uh you've got kind of this lopsided um this very uncertain this very

00:09:54.080 insecure blue america that nevertheless has monopolies on all the institutions and doesn't

00:10:00.880 exactly know where to go from there but it's hanging under control fairly i mean i'm kind of

00:10:05.600 surprised that so many people just refuse the 250th anniversary i thought there would be more

00:10:11.360 defectors but i guess there aren't uh so uh guys i should also mention that we are not live right

00:10:18.880 right now we are pre-recorded so we can't answer any of your questions sorry if you are asking them

00:10:23.500 uh but that said i mean i i think that there's a lot of truth to the fact that obviously your

00:10:29.560 cultural centers were in your blue areas you know that's for better or worse what's made them blue

00:10:35.380 at this point uh and so you do have all of these institutions controlled by blue america

00:10:41.960 especially the creative, you know, sectors are often locked down by blue America.

00:10:47.600 And so one of it makes sense at some level to say, well, if you're going to have a revivification of culture,

00:10:53.620 it has to come through those avenues.

00:10:56.420 But I think there's two things that come to mind when that is set, even though it is somewhat intuitive.

00:11:03.500 The first one is this is assuming that the cultural centers will always be the cultural centers forever,

00:11:10.100 that they have to remain in those areas there is no way for them to shift now i'm not saying that

00:11:15.780 there is a lot of good development for red uh america when it comes to these cultural cultural

00:11:22.100 centers even something like nashville which is the center of country music is in a red state

00:11:27.020 you think it would you know sprout a right-wing counterculture if any place would and if you go

00:11:33.960 to nashville it's full of pride flags it's yeah of course it's all left coated in the middle of

00:11:39.080 tennessee uh so even in those spaces where you should you a deep red you know area where uh you

00:11:45.360 know country music is is the primary art and that has at least a a good veneer of of right-wing

00:11:52.300 coding in it you still develop a left-wing culture and a left-wing art scene and everything in those

00:11:58.280 centers so there are many challenges and i'm sure we'll get to why that is in a minute but the other

00:12:03.680 problem i have is really how deeply what you said speaks to the dire nature of blue states at this

00:12:11.560 point it's not just that blue states are less enthusiastic about america it's not that they

00:12:17.080 just you know they're not feeling it because donald trump's in charge it's that they really

00:12:21.540 really really hate the country like they would if if they had capacity they would fight another 0.99

00:12:28.220 civil war and wipe out the chuts like they really despise red america and when you have a population 1.00

00:12:35.680 that is that soured on the nature of the country itself its history its heritage its traditions 0.96

00:12:41.400 everything else while they might have the intellectual or you know financial capacity

00:12:49.240 just the concentration of populations and things to produce these cultural centers

00:12:52.960 how is that ever going to become something that celebrates america honors america is an american

00:13:00.500 culture again i mean you have your entire culture it's it's kind of like uh you know canada's entire

00:13:07.420 political identity is hating america and not being american and the entire blue state culture at this

00:13:14.000 point is we are basically the only thing containing nazis from taking over the world and the nazis are

00:13:20.360 everybody in the country we don't like and that like is that is their entire cultural uh outlook

00:13:25.900 you look at what was that uh one one battle after another movie right like that like that yeah you

00:13:32.020 know i it's an otherwise good director too right right right he knows how to make good movies right

00:13:38.120 yeah it's made with some of the one of the greatest movies of all time right but like he

00:13:41.360 but he can't escape he can't make good art because now because his entire culture is consumed by just

00:13:48.180 hating america and so i guess while i understand that the capacity is there how do you solve that

00:13:54.940 problem because i i would think it would be easier to train red states to make culture

00:13:59.220 than it would to treat blue train blue states to stop hating red states at this point well it is

00:14:04.440 the problem for a they won't so the majority of blue america is just going to descend into

00:14:10.720 cultural death uh what will come from it the optimistic prediction is that a nucleus of blue

00:14:16.800 state of america will emerge and and come in a direction that is healthy you know like like sort

00:14:24.140 of the dime square scene but like better actually healthy yeah well yeah like less less kind of

00:14:32.880 infested with this millennial irony and more sincere and more in it for the long run and

00:14:38.320 more dedicated to an artistic vision um so the you know you kind of answered it yourself the reason

00:14:43.860 why the reason why uh there is not a counter red state elite it's not any of this richard hanani

00:14:52.020 stuff about elite human capital and you know calling me calling me an uneducated chud when i

00:14:58.100 have multiple graduate degrees um that's not the the reason why there can't be a red state counter

00:15:04.660 elite it is very much just situational and locational so first of all counter let's have

00:15:10.020 to come from cities uh it's just a matter like organic culture grows from life and the people

00:15:17.380 have to be close enough together and there's this sort of a certain critical mass people need to be

00:15:22.420 close together to actually generate an organic culture and not just be kind of one-off genius

00:15:28.180 hermits even online doesn't really fix this problem uh there would have to be a monastery

00:15:33.860 if not a city right and i i'm not ruling out monist like neo monasteries you know mary harrington's

00:15:39.780 Thoughts on this is absolutely correct. That's thinking in the right direction. But it can't be geographically distributed populations. While red states are ultimately healthier and they're geographically distributed, they're not conducive to high elite energy.

00:15:53.780 and things like nashville nashville and these other kind of hypothetically red cities that are

00:16:00.160 not they're stuck in a very weird position uh you know nashville in particular this is a

00:16:08.040 cultural space that is coded red even though it is deep blue and the elites kind of prepared for

00:16:14.460 them they're not surprised by anything that comes out of the country music scene and moreover the

00:16:20.740 artists and the intellectuals to operate in that scene are very conscious of falling into a

00:16:25.120 stereotype that predismisses them as being a cliche and kitsch and that is the reason why all of these

00:16:33.320 spaces tend to kind of swing in the other direction and become bluer than the bluest place uh you know

00:16:39.280 like i know i'm not i don't live in san francisco or new york city i i never well i guess i have

00:16:44.840 lived in a very blue city in in uh in new jersey but it was uh you know look i mean these places

00:16:53.160 are having deep problems inside of them and they're deeply deeply stagnant um but but just

00:16:59.800 because of where they exist inside sort of the american physical map and the american cultural

00:17:05.160 map make some kind of these indispensable properties and i i don't i think that the the

00:17:09.800 idea of the internet is like we're totally it's kind of funny right it's kind of funny because

00:17:14.440 internet is like okay well we we're so detoralized that now we can fight we can fight the the forces

00:17:22.080 of detoritorialization uh by by being detoritor territorialized ourselves but very ironically

00:17:30.460 there's a dimension of elite formation that is necessarily territorialized and uh you can't just

00:17:36.140 discard these kind of uh choke points that exist in the center of america and or in the center of

00:17:43.860 I should say, American cultural life.

00:17:46.640 And I think this is a problem for us in the sense that, again, 0.97

00:17:52.160 I think that the revolutionary potential of Blue America is actually higher. 0.95

00:17:57.520 I said this to you at the conference we were recently at, 0.55

00:18:00.720 but it is very clear, to me at least,

00:18:04.720 there's a reason why every interaction you have with kind of neoconservatives

00:18:09.080 has them coming off as, I don't insult anyone here, 0.96

00:18:13.140 But you do a lot of interactions with neocons and these propositional nation people, RN, and they always end up looking to almost everyone who's onlooking like they're absolute doofuses.

00:18:25.220 Case in point, you know, your interactions with James Lindsay, this has not gone unnoticed by the left side of the internet.

00:18:32.980 They talk about these interactions on Blue Sky, and they're not making fun of you.

00:18:36.780 They're making fun of James Lindsay.

00:18:38.860 They can smell who is losing these interactions.

00:18:41.560 any human can smell who's losing these interactions. And it is very, very, very, very clear

00:18:48.360 that the neocon and establishment conservatives and the pre-populist conservatives, these are

00:18:56.620 people who are on a slow boat to nowhere. And it's not exactly clear where the somewhere is

00:19:02.080 in Red America. It is somewhere vaguely in the direction of economic populism combined with some

00:19:08.760 form of vague hand-waving nationalism no one has the specifics down but that's the direction it is

00:19:14.520 not going to this whole idea of like a common market and israel is our greatest ally and that's

00:19:20.440 like in our nation is a proposition written down by people 250 years ago that we don't even

00:19:25.480 understand in the modern world that is not where red america is going and everybody who has eyes

00:19:31.640 in their head who's not being paid not to see it can see it including our mutual enemies it is

00:19:38.120 absolutely not clear to me where blue america where i'm not going to mention words here are

00:19:43.700 and where white blue america is going to go uh this is i know the narrative in red america is

00:19:49.840 that this is a dying order and indeed you are right it is but it's not going to die in the

00:19:54.680 next 30 years it's not even going to die in the next 60 years and their narrative i wrote an

00:20:00.140 article that was very popular called how progressivism died progressivism as an entropic

00:20:05.220 force is not going to die. People trying to create a utopia of equality by seizing all of the stuff

00:20:12.300 is not going to die. That is an eternal human feature. But what I meant is the kind of 20th

00:20:18.360 century, for lack of a better word, although progressives themselves use this word, so I don't 0.85

00:20:23.200 know why I'm shying away from it, white progressivism as it has existed in the 20th century. 0.88

00:20:27.940 The narrative on this type of thing is dying very, very, very fast. 0.88

00:20:34.100 They have no ability to kind of organically interact with the world, and their entire culture has hoped for that.

00:20:40.740 And, you know, as Bennett Phylactery says, he says, it's not go woke, go broke.

00:20:47.000 It's go broke, go woke.

00:20:49.440 In many ways, the wokeness was a response to their own cultural bankruptcy in other areas,

00:20:55.300 and in some sense, their own financial bankruptcy.

00:20:57.940 And so it is totally unclear to me is what happens when this narrative expires, but the sort of engine of production is still in place where these people are occupying these institutions and have no justification for why they're there.

00:21:13.900 If, for instance, it becomes incredibly clear that their erstwhile allies among the third world and among sort of minority populations inside America are not actually on board with their larger progressive vision as white people have imagined in the 20th century, then this could cause a huge identity crisis on the left, which would totally devour American culture.

00:21:38.660 And I'm not so sure what will happen from that identity crisis. It's unclear because every answer I can come up with, Sam's like it couldn't possibly happen. And I'm not really coming on your show with any answers to how to deal with this. But I, again, how can I know what comes after something that I don't know what will happen?

00:21:57.600 Well, I have a feeling that the spark of sort of a new narrative for North America will emerge out of the identity crisis that occurs in these blue areas, largely among white leftists. 0.79

00:22:10.080 Now, it's going to have to reconcile itself in conversation with Red America, and it will be massively smaller because what we're talking about is, you know, imagine kind of the vision of the few who are saved from the apocalypse in something like the Book of Revelations. 0.69

00:22:26.780 that's what we're talking about here right a remnant will emerge but that remnant will be a 0.72

00:22:33.100 critical component of any kind of revival of what it means to be american there's so much i could

00:22:39.360 say about this but i should like i should actually uh stop my monologue here yeah you you you are

00:22:45.940 used to having a good three hours to yourself when you're on a podcast so entirely understandable

00:22:50.880 i mean i think there's a lot of truth there i think after the last trump victory i felt like

00:22:57.580 jane goodall kind of watching the blue states and you know the kind of blue america and that

00:23:02.340 reaction uh the funniest thing of course was they realized that they had a giant man problem like 0.98

00:23:08.020 they could not they simply have nothing to say to men other than uh die alone and you deserve it

00:23:13.520 and so then they like paid some morbidly obese woman 20 million dollars to go find out why they 0.99

00:23:20.360 had a man problem and the answer she came back is with men are evil and they deserve it and of

00:23:25.860 course you know like we're doing the right thing so like it's very clear that even at the moment 0.54

00:23:30.860 when the democrats and the the left look at white people especially white men like they see at some

00:23:37.420 level they are sealing their own fate like they recognize at some level that they are pushing 0.79

00:23:42.600 people out of the coalition that will doom them uh at the same time they are literally incapable 0.56

00:23:48.360 of making any alterations to their religion that would allow for the existence of white men like 0.99

00:23:55.160 that literally their religion is just they all white men must die that is the basis of their 0.97

00:24:00.200 belief system everything else is just is just yeah the marxism is great sure whatever but like 0.93

00:24:05.220 this is actually where it's at and so uh there there just seems to be no way to escape that

00:24:11.040 downward pull that said uh i i start to wonder then how they can revivify this in any way i

00:24:20.380 would say that you know get we're all good elite theorists here you know pareto reminds us that

00:24:25.660 every new elite is made up with remnants of the old elite we never get we might get rotations

00:24:30.560 circulations of elite but we are all there's always a remnant there so i think you're on

00:24:34.860 strong footing saying like there will be uh you know a a decent amount of interaction with

00:24:40.300 whatever's left of white progressive America when this whole thing is over. But I'm not sure what

00:24:46.260 is left, and I'm not sure that it will dictate the terms, I guess, is more where I'm coming from. 0.81

00:24:52.920 I think that most of American identity is now contained in red states. I think that anything 0.78

00:24:58.840 that's recognizably American is now red. If you ask people what America is when they leave,

00:25:06.800 they don't tell you about new york uh and the culture of new yorkers yeah they tell you about

00:25:12.500 the south they tell you you know we we just had a a friend from the uk over i'll keep his name out

00:25:18.460 of it just because uh of everything going on uh but uh you know we he came over and he went through

00:25:24.180 new york and he said oh this is this is mumbai this is the third world and then he walked into

00:25:28.960 tennessee it's like oh this is america you know we've had all these europeans coming over and in

00:25:34.320 my experience whenever you're in europe uh the song that everyone associates with the united states

00:25:40.220 is take me home country roads it's a song about living in west virginia that that's what that

00:25:46.320 it's the unofficial like i've been in you know fairs in england where all of a sudden out of

00:25:51.240 nowhere a guy starts playing take me home country roads and like the entire uh you know event just

00:25:57.440 stops dead in their tracks and sings along like that is america to i think a lot of people

00:26:03.140 and many of these things are seen as below or beneath you know blue america for a lot of

00:26:08.600 reasons one of them is they're white coated uh but um you have this moment where uh you've even

00:26:15.260 talked about the revival of bluegrass music and how often it was uh people from new york or you

00:26:21.940 know other areas who were doing it i don't think that could happen today i don't think you could

00:26:25.940 have blue america 10 years later pick that up so when you have that level of hostility it feels

00:26:31.000 like even if those blue state refugees those that remnant who will i think at some level be part of

00:26:36.980 that spark they're going to have to adapt almost entirely right-wing culture in order to have any

00:26:42.200 connection to america yeah and in essence right you are correct stating it like blue america is

00:26:49.360 just not america anymore in any meaningful sense and the anti-whiteness thing that is a huge utility

00:26:54.660 for us at this stage that is the catalyst that is going to tear apart the leftist coalition and make

00:27:01.900 something make something that is post-left almost necessary and you know insofar as people like

00:27:07.400 Hassan Piker play a role he's kind of trying to hold back I mean actually Hassan Piker has done

00:27:14.240 more for the moderate left than they actually know because by framing this as sort of like

00:27:19.440 this revolutionary um you know this this communist revolution he can momentarily hold back what

00:27:26.120 essentially is just revenge against white males and you know the fact that he's turkish kind of 0.55

00:27:31.280 makes it more subtly ironic being kind of uh on the intersection of of of of non-white imperialism

00:27:38.380 itself against white people while at the same time still plausibly having white genetics himself but

00:27:42.840 But, you know, this is the – like I said, Blue America is in a total state of contradiction. 0.80

00:27:48.940 And you are correct that currently there is no real authentic Blue America that is – it's all a lie, I should say.

00:27:56.380 It's all James Tallrico-ized. 0.97

00:27:58.580 I'm trying to come up with a good word where I can use – it's James Tallrico. 0.97

00:28:02.320 That's the kind of fake Christian guy, right? 0.98

00:28:04.220 Yeah, you got it. 0.54

00:28:05.220 But he needs to be turned into an adjective because all – and this is where you get into the whole Lomez and Christopher Rufa versus Curtis.

00:28:12.840 Yarvin thing. All of the symbols of classic Americana are basically just giant scams in

00:28:19.960 blue America. In blue America, anytime someone brandishes a flag, he's looking for your vote.

00:28:25.920 He's looking to con you into doing something. Nobody who uses the American flag as a sincere

00:28:33.760 symbol is actually sincerely the client of the people who brandish it in blue states.

00:28:38.580 It is a tool of scamming. It is a I can do this thing and therefore you'll give me the power that I need to get into office and then serve my real clients, which is, you know, bankers, international global globalist leaders.

00:28:53.320 And of course, the various minority clients that they also are in a more subtle way of scamming. 0.78

00:28:59.560 But for that reason, the American identity in blue states is is a scam and is seen to be a scam. 0.91

00:29:06.280 and everyone knows it's a scam and so playing into that identity makes you look like a mark it

00:29:12.160 makes you look like an easy mark in that situation if i were to unironically be a blue stater who um

00:29:19.120 you know if i wasn't doing this as sort of like an art community like dime square if i were to just

00:29:24.220 unironically be really really patriotic in one of these highly blue areas people would think that i

00:29:29.640 was a sucker because you're playing into this big k-fab the blue america is playing to make it seem

00:29:35.640 like they're still authentically American when they are absolutely not. But you can't help but 0.97

00:29:42.800 notice that there's this huge pressure building up in these areas. The fact that all of these

00:29:48.900 people are essentially disowning their heritage does not make that heritage go away. It does not

00:29:55.600 make the legacy of that heritage, of these blue areas, less a thing. And it doesn't make the

00:30:02.520 contradiction that exists in their their actual communities go away so you know you are right

00:30:08.540 there is only one authentic america in the present era and everyone in the present

00:30:13.020 period i should say era sounds too long but you know in the last few decades there has only been

00:30:20.300 one authentic america and that has been right america but the problem is physically speaking

00:30:25.660 as a cohort, as a population. That's not true. A large part of your population history is not

00:30:33.960 described in what is Red America. And a large part of sort of the cultural choke points of

00:30:40.520 any kind of restoration also run through areas and run through things that are not, 0.58

00:30:45.180 strictly speaking, Red America. This creates a tension that, again, I think is this going to 0.72

00:30:50.200 explode and i have no idea what direction that's going to go in uh but i don't know part of me kind

00:30:57.740 of wonders if yarvin isn't correct if what are the things that stops blue america from kind of

00:31:04.500 melting down faster is red america it is the presence of red america that allows white

00:31:12.040 progressives to keep on playing the shtick where they convince everybody that they are some kind 0.69

00:31:18.020 of necessary component in the political elite that otherwise would consider them to be otherwise

00:31:24.380 totally anathema to its larger purposes and i i wonder what would happen you know if if

00:31:31.800 you know one interesting thing i hope this doesn't happen but let's say that trump loses power and we

00:31:37.680 get another round of you know the reign of gavin newsom that will trigger an identity crisis among

00:31:44.480 white progressives will it be worth the oppression probably not but it does sort of facilitate and i

00:31:51.340 don't want something like an accelerate accelerationist it does sort of facilitate a

00:31:55.440 cultural shift that just needs to happen to just so thoroughly needs to happen and uh i see that

00:32:04.860 every time i i go into a blue area that this needs to happen yeah there's a there's a lot there uh

00:32:12.720 So I guess let's begin with this.

00:32:14.920 Do you think that the great sort could be a...

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00:32:50.660 Solution to this problem, or at least a dynamic that's not being factored in.

00:32:54.300 You know, my state went from being a purple state to being a bright red state during COVID.

00:33:00.080 and the reason is that basically you know we'd always had new york and new jersey moving down

00:33:06.160 here uh you know we're we're we're new jersey's retirement plan uh you know in florida uh but

00:33:12.400 uh it was obviously a lot of liberals coming down they were slowly turning the state purple it went

00:33:18.240 from red to purple and was trending blue and then all of a sudden covet happened and the only people

00:33:23.640 moving down from new york and new jersey were the people who wanted to escape covet which was coded

00:33:27.960 as traitor like they were blue state traders they didn't want to live in those places anymore and

00:33:33.200 that's one of the reasons that Florida became red along with DeSantis kind of fixing a lot of the

00:33:39.280 voter rolls and the voting that kind of thing and you know this story repeats in several places a lot

00:33:45.240 of the red states saw a swelling of population during this time because of the dynamics of COVID

00:33:51.780 and I think with the work from home revolution everything else that we're seeing the the need to

00:33:56.540 be in specific blue areas to be in certain industries is is not what it used to be so

00:34:03.120 you have this option of uh you know people sorting into these communities of like-minded nature

00:34:08.440 and blue satyrs you know having the freedom to live around people who agree with them rather

00:34:14.140 than being in hostile territory uh at this point is there a future in which this great sort creates

00:34:20.920 new cultural centers in red states where so many people have sorted themselves out as blue states

00:34:27.480 lose more and more of the people who would have kept it afloat through both competency and having

00:34:31.700 some level of sanity being uh you know at least slightly right of center maybe maybe it is hard

00:34:38.140 so far the bleed away has all been sort of the middle class in california and new york

00:34:43.300 and so what they are what you're what how the fish rots is well they say it rots from the head down

00:34:51.000 but in the case of blue states it's rotting from the body down you're you're getting first the

00:34:56.220 people who are the most kulak coded even if they were sort of democrat voters who are moving into

00:35:02.040 the hinterlands and and you will get last sort of the creative energy that comes from uh sort of

00:35:08.680 these inner cities uh i i don't know i i think that the the the great sort is probably going to

00:35:16.680 be too slow i think that the big thing on our horizon right now is the potential collapse

00:35:22.280 financial collapse of the university system so blue america's big advantage is that it has a

00:35:27.480 farm leak and i cannot understate how large this advantage is is that they just basically get to

00:35:34.040 take the top iq people even from red americans they get to hold them in like literal like literal

00:35:42.440 gardens like literal paradise gardens like the assassins of old and convince them that 0.73

00:35:47.000 this is what the world would like we have to ransom our ransom our noble children to the

00:35:51.960 blue states for four years four to eight years on a regular basis and what do they do they put them

00:35:57.080 in this kind of like literal paradise these these these college campuses and i've lived in college

00:36:01.800 chance my entire life uh these places are just filthy rich and the money is going to people who

00:36:07.960 are not lucky or financially savvy at all you just get money to do these cush jobs and create these

00:36:14.920 campuses that are literal paradises and the message is pretty i mean they don't say this

00:36:19.720 obviously explicitly but the message of college is if if the smart people were in charge everywhere

00:36:25.480 would be like this pretty much and they're able to create all sorts of things they're able to

00:36:31.160 to create their own kind of janissary ideological class they're able to essentially mold the

00:36:35.480 creative class people who want to build true good and beautiful things and give them kind of the

00:36:41.040 implicit smell of their their ideology this this is true for science too scientists usually adopt

00:36:47.820 the ideology of the people around them and it's in universities so they adopt that ideology

00:36:51.940 and moreover it it allows people to know and this is the most important thing the it allows them to

00:36:59.320 kind of train a class of individuals who who understands that their enemies and the bad

00:37:05.260 people are red america and this is critical because uh you know i think christians understand

00:37:10.660 this in particular uh and this is both through hollywood and through the university system but

00:37:16.380 if you are a christian or someone who's otherwise red state coded you kind of appear in the eyes of

00:37:23.940 somebody who come from an educated class is pre-debunked pre set aside as not necessarily

00:37:29.460 an enemy but someone that you don't want to associate with so that's how you have sort of

00:37:33.540 like the educated classes of nashville and you know they they understand that they are in some 0.93

00:37:39.580 sense the the scions of red america they sell to red america they live in a city that's in the 0.89

00:37:45.280 middle of a red state but they also know that they do not want to be associated with that they have 0.76

00:37:52.440 to be different. They have to, I mean, they're, they're too intelligent to be sort of classic

00:37:56.820 Hiklabs, but they're kind of like very, very, very intelligent Hiklabs. And, and, and this is 0.75

00:38:02.860 kind of the, the, the trap the university system has placed all of us in. The university system

00:38:07.940 is currently the most vulnerable piece of the puzzle because it's becoming obsolete. It is

00:38:14.600 financially insolvent. And it's also, you know, the various campuses around the country are

00:38:22.860 falling into kind of disrepair. They're being devoured by their own ideology. Well, at the

00:38:28.160 same time, they can't sell middle America on the fact that this is a product that they need to

00:38:32.740 invest in. And I think that is going to go faster than some kind of sorting. You know, in order for

00:38:40.400 assorting to generate a new elite in red states you'd have to have them literally found a new 0.56

00:38:44.820 city or at least come to a city that's not known for being a cultural epicenter and make it one

00:38:50.120 and and that is very very difficult in some sense it's almost kind of tragic that all the daily

00:38:55.260 wire people picked nashville that was kind of pre-insulated for for a red a conservative takeover

00:39:02.780 they should have picked i don't know they should have picked somewhere like um uh what's some like

00:39:08.500 indianapolis or some some just like absolute i mean people people did this in detroit and obviously

00:39:13.540 they couldn't do this in detroit because the government is hostile to conservatives but people

00:39:16.900 just went in and colonized the area because the housing value was so cheap that that would have

00:39:22.580 to happen in order for like the great sort to solve this problem i think that this crisis will

00:39:28.020 be kicked off by the disintegration of the university system before anything else happens

00:39:33.380 well if you feel like the culture would collapse in that manner uh what would be the impetus then 0.69

00:39:43.720 for these blue state refugees or this remnant to ultimately rise to power because you know the

00:39:50.420 problem is of course we know that they're more or less locked out entirely we you know you talked

00:39:55.660 a little bit about the accelerationist aspect of some of this where people you know i guess you

00:40:01.580 could say whether you want it to happen or not it's probably going to happen so you don't need

00:40:05.320 to hasten it but but you know the inevitable comes there but i i guess the point is the the battle

00:40:10.820 between rufo and uh and yarvin and lomez there is really one where it feels like because yarvin

00:40:19.680 doesn't actually value anything in red states because he himself is thoroughly deracinated

00:40:25.080 and completely unconnected to most of these things outside of saying he likes like small

00:40:29.920 town football or something uh like he is willing to disintegrate all of these symbols right they

00:40:36.200 as you say they're in in his experience the place he lived they mean nothing to him the thing is

00:40:41.380 that they mean a lot to red staters right like they like they are still well uh passion imbued 0.99

00:40:47.120 with passion and so if you try to just if you if your general tactic is we have to dismantle this

00:40:52.720 mythology then not only are you probably not getting any kind of restoration in blue state

00:40:57.920 america you're also dismantling everything that kind of protected red state america from at least

00:41:03.580 some aspect of this and will inevitably unwind what's left of their identity yeah i mean this is

00:41:10.040 i don't think that that is what i don't read yarvin as saying these symbols are bad because

00:41:16.260 i don't value red america i think that he values red america just as much as anyone who hasn't

00:41:21.300 generally lived in red america you know there's lots of things to like about it these symbols have

00:41:26.240 negative value inside

00:41:28.320 any attempt to break the form

00:41:30.580 of Blue America. 0.92

00:41:32.840 That is the problem 0.90

00:41:34.480 that we're dealing with. I understand

00:41:36.420 that they're very life-giving and

00:41:38.300 they're very important for sort of holding

00:41:40.440 the rural areas

00:41:42.340 together and giving them hope.

00:41:44.660 But like I said, these are elements

00:41:46.400 of a giant con that's being 0.61

00:41:48.220 hoisted on Blue

00:41:50.340 American cities. The story

00:41:52.300 that this is

00:41:54.480 simultaneously what rules

00:41:56.660 you is the American flag. Well, you know,

00:41:58.520 the American flag in that way does not rule

00:42:00.640 them. What rules them is

00:42:02.420 or the actual bureaucracy of

00:42:04.580 the United States, which does not largely

00:42:06.480 see 1776 as

00:42:08.480 their origin in any way, shape

00:42:10.580 or form at this stage.

00:42:13.520 I don't know.

00:42:14.700 I guess the question was

00:42:16.600 if I can put a finer point on

00:42:18.600 it, it was

00:42:19.420 I guess my impression

00:42:22.500 is that

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00:42:28.300 Chocolate and peanut butter, obviously,

00:42:30.380 but there's more than one way to Reese's.

00:42:32.860 From indulgent Reese's Big Cups with caramel

00:42:35.320 to crunchy Reese's pieces and Reese's miniatures,

00:42:38.780 there's a delicious Reese's for every mood.

00:42:41.220 It's the same combo you love,

00:42:42.840 just with more ways to enjoy it.

00:42:44.800 So whether you're snacking, sharing,

00:42:46.740 or just treating yourself,

00:42:48.400 nothing else is Reese's.

00:42:49.840 it is very strange right because there there's a huge mental block between sort of the people who

00:42:58.400 own the money and what they're willing to fund and the necessary vitality which is coming from

00:43:04.480 a right-wing direction and you see this in hollywood where you know people like the red

00:43:09.280 scare girls are living rent-free in producers minds they are very aware of them but they can't

00:43:15.160 actually talk about them explicitly because that gives up the game um i i don't know i i don't

00:43:22.360 exactly the problems are and i don't really have this conundrum figured out because they there's a

00:43:29.000 reason why this block exists and because if this block were overcome the regime would fall that's

00:43:34.600 why the psychological block exists in place if blue american elites suddenly started unironically

00:43:40.920 and sincerely adopting these symbols uh the regime would crumble and they would crumble because it

00:43:47.960 would a very few number of these cultural craters could defect and then it would immediately reveal

00:43:55.480 the i mean like the the academy in hollywood and all these places is 99 bank more like 90

00:44:01.400 bankrupt at least like 99 of the people in university don't do anything 90 of the people

00:44:06.840 in hollywood are producing slop and there's a few people who are doing things like obsession

00:44:10.200 and back rooms and these are all like young guys they just fished off the internet yeah

00:44:13.240 probably probably someone's cousin knew somebody and they just invite him over and like they aren't

00:44:18.360 even very good movies but they're better than what hollywood is producing because it's 90

00:44:21.880 bankrupt so the second there's this defection then everyone the gig is up for blue america

00:44:27.560 and you know you have the the financial model of theirs falls apart so these kind of psychological

00:44:34.840 barriers there's a reason why this isn't happening and the symbolic psychological barrier that's

00:44:39.880 it's been we've been indoctrinated into in the late 20th century is the reason why this isn't

00:44:44.480 happening i guess my big i guess my i guess my big concern is that at some level and if you think

00:44:52.380 i've read this wrong you know feel free to let me know but at some level it feels like yarvin's

00:44:57.480 argument and to some extent your argument but again you can you can correct me there is that

00:45:02.260 we have to deconstruct these things because they are being used in blue america to kind of trap

00:45:09.340 people inside the system to keep to perpetuate the system and i understand that like that makes

00:45:15.160 sense abstractly the problem is that if we're going to deconstruct them what you're going to

00:45:21.040 do is basically deconstruct them to liberate the blue states while destroying the red states yeah

00:45:27.880 and it's like well let's accelerate the decline of america so we can save the blue states because

00:45:32.460 they're the only way that we can kick off the full cultural renewal of america and that feels like

00:45:38.420 exactly wrong to me because you're you're going to be sacrificing the red states in hopes that

00:45:43.000 if you make things worse in blue states that will be this this action and that seems to be giving

00:45:48.500 away the territory you own in the hopes that you could capture a territory that for reasons you

00:45:54.060 know you value more maybe tactical maybe personal and not really accounting for the fact that just

00:45:59.420 because something is fake in california new york doesn't mean that it actually serves like a real

00:46:05.260 critical function in the rest of the country and holding on to that function is actually more

00:46:10.340 important because if you get rid of it then the blue states will have no america to plug back

00:46:15.600 into yeah you will have deconstructed away the the the uh kind of system holding people in place

00:46:22.280 but you will have nothing i guess it's we're aiming for chaos as a ladder here i suppose

00:46:26.940 well we kind of are you are you're correct and you never want in business you never want to send

00:46:32.180 good money after bad so i think if the if the plan is to just destroy red america to accelerate

00:46:38.360 blue america that seems to be not a good idea right yeah uh i agree but the the problem is is

00:46:47.860 that uh the solution for blue america lies somewhere down the path of political acceleration

00:46:56.060 if nothing else and that that is the problem is that um you know i i and it's a problem without

00:47:04.460 a solution blue america uses red america to make itself relevant that or at least white white

00:47:12.300 progressives use red america to make themselves relevant and it the moment that red america

00:47:18.440 ceases to exist white progressives cease to have a purpose and the moment that they cease to exist

00:47:24.620 or cease to be connected,

00:47:26.120 then that's the moment

00:47:27.880 that the business model

00:47:30.680 of all of these places

00:47:31.560 kind of falls in a heap.

00:47:33.420 Other than the financial

00:47:35.000 and tech sectors,

00:47:36.540 very little of what

00:47:37.780 Blue America does

00:47:39.300 makes any sense 0.52

00:47:40.360 outside of its relationship

00:47:42.120 with Red America. 0.74

00:47:44.240 And its decreasing ability 0.97

00:47:45.940 to propagandize the world as well.

00:47:48.980 Yeah, I mean,

00:47:50.120 I don't know.

00:47:52.200 I think that the...

00:47:54.620 If in some way the ultimate solution is just kind of walk into the distinction between the two groups, I think that if it's very, very clear that what difference is between when we practice Christianity and when someone like Stephen Colbert practices Christianity,

00:48:16.200 this has been sort of the the um the it needs to be said that in all ways progressives are

00:48:25.540 decelerationists they want to essentially prolong the long 20th century at this stage their hope

00:48:31.780 for sort of a 21st century that belongs to them is more or less a larp at least if you're a white

00:48:37.940 progressive at this stage it all exists in confronting problems that they do not directly

00:48:43.240 address because they can't look at them. Now, the big obstacle of this is that we just have this

00:48:48.740 huge layer of phoniness that's strewn across everything. Like, I have to pretend that Stephen

00:48:53.060 Colbert is actually Catholic. Now, I know that Stephen Colbert is not Catholic. I know that

00:48:59.420 Stephen Colbert is not Catholic. I know that he does not believe the doctrine. I know that he does

00:49:04.160 not follow the catechism. And now he's admitted it. Like, the other week, he admitted, what did

00:49:08.920 he admit exactly? I can't exactly remember, but he said something like, Todd is just some kind of

00:49:13.160 vague energy that is the universe or something to that effect like the einsteinian god which is

00:49:19.000 a direct contradiction to the nicene creed but that's not how stephen colbert prevented presented

00:49:25.120 himself and always when you're getting into this conversation about what catholicism is

00:49:30.080 more than a few times progressives will bring up the fact that stephen colbert is devout devout

00:49:34.940 catholic and he doesn't agree with you about what catholicism is well yeah that's because he's not

00:49:39.340 actually Catholic, right? This person is posing as this thing. And because of that, we are not

00:49:44.980 having a hard conversation about what we actually believe and what is the path forward to the

00:49:49.700 future. Because it's obvious that what Stephen Colbert believes is a complete dead end, not only

00:49:54.200 for America, but for the human race generally. And I don't know, is there a way to accelerate

00:50:00.740 blue America and decelerate red America? That's an open question. I think that to a certain extent

00:50:07.400 that's going on as this is what the real advantage of mimetics is in my opinion is that the ontological

00:50:14.980 category is kind of become more separated the fact that all of the left like zero percentage

00:50:22.880 of the left are actual christians but they are a hundred percent composed of christian concern 0.65

00:50:27.400 trolls i have never met a leftist that was not a christian concern troll not as well not the most 1.00

00:50:33.400 rat the most radical crazy you know i want to deconstruct the patriarchy kill all white men 1.00

00:50:41.080 the most radical communist the the most authentic marxist which is a contradiction in terms because 1.00

00:50:47.000 there are very few authentic communists in the modern world at least authentic white ones and 0.87

00:50:53.720 they are all concerned trolls from the most moderate to the most radical that's a universal 0.88

00:50:57.800 property of them. And that is because they are trying to, they know that they have a moral

00:51:04.420 contradiction at the heart of their ideology. And so they're kind of trying to scaffold

00:51:08.060 off the existence of your morality to justify theirs. And so Christian concern trolling is a 0.83

00:51:14.540 critical dimension of what it means to be a progressive in the 21st century. And I think 0.89

00:51:21.400 that if we ontologically realize and that sounds like like a bunch of a bunch of hogwash or a bunch

00:51:28.960 of jargon but but i think it's important that's why heidegger yeah exactly uh i think as as these

00:51:36.940 two groups become more clear that um then i think that the game will kind of dissipate and i'm

00:51:45.520 hoping that it will be really really obvious that people like james talrico are frauds

00:51:50.400 and they're not authentically what they actually are that that they're opposing i think it's very

00:51:56.160 very clear that that's what stephen colbert is that that is what um all of these kind of concerned

00:52:00.800 trolls are is that they are pretending to be something that they are not to avoid discussing

00:52:05.040 what they actually are in in the modern world and they're deeply ashamed to be what they are and and

00:52:11.280 And this sounds horribly abstract, but it is just that kind of realization and representation that kind of offers us a way to get past this very weird moment in history.

00:52:28.020 I like asking progressives what they think it means to be an American or if they're proud to be an American and what their relationship is to history.

00:52:36.740 They struggled to answer that question in the 21st century.

00:52:39.680 and yeah i imagine yeah i mean well but yeah i mean this is this is something that um i uh i feel

00:52:49.040 like the more authentic and the more grounded and the more personal the conversation is with

00:52:53.940 the progressive the closer they are to kind of seeing what the crisis is in their midst that

00:53:00.120 they they can't really occupy their own skins in a very comfortable way and i feel that it is sort

00:53:08.780 of our job to kind of accelerate this process and uh i i don't know i i think that nothing i say to

00:53:18.600 this point is going to sound satisfying at all aaron and this is just a cultural journey that's

00:53:23.560 going to have to be accomplished separately in red states or in not really red states but in red

00:53:28.640 areas that it is in blue areas i think that red red states and and they need to be comfortable

00:53:35.280 with who they are and having a nationalism of who they are as a people and kind of developing

00:53:40.420 developing a way to be proud but also developing a way to kind of be better and and and kind of

00:53:47.180 live up to the legacy that it was bequeathed to them and i think blue america just needs to have

00:53:52.680 a mirror held up to its face they need to have a hard look in the mirror about what they have

00:53:58.620 actually become in the 21st century because it is very, very, very, very ugly. And I do not know

00:54:06.220 who can hold that mirror to progressivism space. All I know is that the flag and the symbols of

00:54:13.040 old America actually make it, make them less reflective about who they actually are. I think

00:54:18.680 functionally America is two different countries at this stage. I mean, it's just obviously it is

00:54:23.620 white america is two different places and uh one is kind of rapidly deteriorating under the weight 0.56

00:54:30.320 of its own uh of its own politics and i kind of want to save it but uh you know that that is a

00:54:36.900 very difficult task in the in in the era we live in right now it'll be interesting to see what

00:54:41.880 happens when trump leaves the scene um i don't know it might trigger some interesting things but

00:54:47.400 i have no idea what those things could be because it's literally standing on a nice edge i feel like

00:54:52.640 it's possible that white america could just die in progressive areas just flat out there's like

00:54:57.740 there's no legacy whatsoever but i i consider that to be it would be a major blow to the

00:55:03.640 continuation of america and it would be uh i think it's actually kind of unlikely well and you know

00:55:09.920 this is a lot of people will just say oh well you know or and you live in red america your family's

00:55:14.080 in red america why do you care you know what does it matter you know just hunker down in your state

00:55:17.880 and wait for those things to you know do whatever they're going to do and and uh you know just uh

00:55:22.460 kind of uh grin and bear it until it's done but the problem is of course that everything in blue

00:55:27.360 america is impacting red america as well you know obviously this is where much of the entertainment

00:55:33.240 comes from but also uh you know due to uh the the fact that we basically have like built in uh you

00:55:39.760 know uh fail libs and hic libs that have to move into our areas because uh you know the the university

00:55:45.760 system and libraries and all these places only hire blue-coded people uh you know the things

00:55:51.940 like drug epidemics and transgenderism and things you know they flow through the influence of blue 0.60

00:55:57.800 america so blue america has these problems collapses is still sending these agents of chaos in 0.83

00:56:02.620 then we don't escape the effects of of you know what happens to blue america plus also it's still

00:56:08.720 america so i still care so you know all of these things are critical but to be fair i didn't think

00:56:13.680 we were going to solve this problem tonight uh it's a good conversation but this is a a massive

00:56:18.560 uh issue for us to address so uh probably won't get there to the end uh but i do think it was

00:56:24.680 just valuable to to air this and uh you know develop this further and i'm sure it's something

00:56:29.440 we'll be talking about for a long time eventually you know i just want to get to the point where

00:56:33.080 we can put dave green as the military dictator of area one uh you know what formerly known as

00:56:39.120 california uh for the reconstruction when it begins you know i think that's it's important

00:56:43.880 that we have men we can trust in those positions uh but uh guys again we don't have uh questions

00:56:49.620 today because we're not live but dave can you let people know where to find your work

00:56:52.920 uh yeah so uh my main website is at this point substack where i blog at letters from fiddlers

00:57:00.120 green or fiddlersgreen.substack.com i'm also known for a youtube channel called the distributist

00:57:06.720 although i have no idea really how to use youtube in the modern world it seems in kind of a weird

00:57:12.140 space as a platform and that's just the distributist where i do kind of live stream lectures and

00:57:16.900 very occasionally a video but i'm still trying to figure that out and uh you know hopefully we'll

00:57:24.020 pull this together but a little treat guys we might be might be trying to do a little bit of

00:57:27.960 streaming of game workshops games as we talk about them so i'll let you guys know if we get

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - June 19, 2026

Can Blue America Be Saved？｜ Guest： Dave Greene ｜ 6⧸19⧸26

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