Can Christianity Revive the UK？ ｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson ｜ 4⧸23⧸25
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Calvin Robinson, a priest from the United Kingdom, joins me today to talk about how he came to the faith, how he became a priest, and why he believes it s important to speak out in the face of oppression.
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I think we have talked at length about the problems that are facing the United Kingdom.
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We know the many different types of oppression and ways in which the citizens there have been censored.
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But today, I wanted to talk a little about the spiritual aspects of this battle because I think ultimately it is a war of the spirit.
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Joining me today to talk about that is a father, a priest from the UK.
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I want to dive into, like I said, the events that the UK is experiencing and how the spiritual struggle, I think, is underlying the entire thing.
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But before we get started, I think a lot of people have probably seen you on TV.
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They've seen you, but they may not know your backstory.
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Could you give a little bit of an idea for people how you came to the faith, how you came to the position you are now, and why you feel it's important to speak out in your situation?
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I came into the church through the Church of England.
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I trained and was formed in a seminary in Oxford.
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And towards the end of that, after I completed my training, I realized how I'd have to serve within a woke institution.
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And I came up against real terms battles against feminism, against anti-racism and all the usual woke ideologies.
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And I realized that I would actually not be able to properly serve in such an environment.
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And so I ended up, for a time, serving outside of the Church of England in England, which is difficult in itself because the vast majority of the church in England is England, is the Church of England.
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And so it has a stranglehold almost on the faith, which is sad because the C of E has become entirely liberal, progressive, and woke in all these areas, from the sanctity of life to trans, you know, they've got the first trans archdeacon.
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And so it's difficult to have church outside of the C of E, essentially.
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And I did that for a couple of years in the heart of London, in the thick of it, in a very Mohammedan area where evangelization is important, but also where Christianity is almost persecuted.
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In fact, I would say it probably is at this point.
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And then, thankfully, I was called out here to West Michigan.
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And I serve, or until recently, was serving in a small parish church here in Grand Rapids, which is actually a very, very blessed experience for me, I believe, and also for them.
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Coming out to America where people believe in freedom, people believe in Christ, and they're able to say those things openly and outwardly, it's a wonderful thing to observe.
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And I think, in all honesty, it's actually a great shame that my homeland no longer does that, either of those things, which is probably related to the mess that it's in right now.
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But in terms of my background, my story, ordained a deacon in the Anglican Church, ordained a priest in the old Catholic jurisdiction, which is a very unique setup that has orders and sacraments recognized by Rome, but not in the jurisdiction of Rome.
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And that, I think, is an elevated picture of where I am today and how I got there.
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Yeah, I know it's a long story, but it's good for people to get a little bit of that context, I think, going in.
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Well, like I said, we're going to dive into the events in the UK, how you think those are connected to the spiritual struggle that they are facing, and ultimately what I think is a war of religion that's actively happening inside the UK.
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I think a lot of people are familiar with some of the insanity coming out of the UK.
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Like I said, on this program, we certainly have covered it several times.
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You have people who are getting threatened with hate crimes simply for saying,
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please speak English in England, the place where English came from.
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You have obviously people getting in serious trouble just for pointing out the Muslim invasion
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that's happening in the UK and saying that they'd like to see something done about it.
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Maybe we shouldn't let migrants stab small children on a regular basis.
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And yet somehow, even though this has been very evident for a long time,
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most of the West has ignored what is going on there.
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They treat the UK as just another Western liberal democracy.
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And sadly, if you look at some of the behaviors of places like Canada, maybe they're right about that.
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You can feel that in the room when you're talking to people who are politically minded.
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But at the same time, there seems to be a hesitance to recognize the severity of the problem
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or what would be necessary in order to escape it.
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Yes, it is a great shame because it's such a beautiful country.
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There's so much heritage there, you know, from the ancient architecture,
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those great beautiful cathedrals to the language and the common law
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and all of the great things that America inherited when it was founded.
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And it's all being wasted because liberalism has created a monster, essentially.
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Liberalism painted this idea that there could be a secular, neutral society,
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politically neutral, faithfully neutral, and we'd all just get along.
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But of course, what liberalism has done is it's ripped Christianity out of the public life.
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And of course, once you take something out, you create a vacuum.
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You know, before we called it the West, we used to call it Christendom
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because it's based on Christian foundations, Christian values and the Christian faith.
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And when you have an ideology that is inherently toxic, that was founded by a warmongering pedophile
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that spread through brute force and is essentially undermining the rule of democracy,
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the rule of law, undermining the idea that all people are created equal in the eyes of God,
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and undermining the idea that all human life is sacred,
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and every step of the way, then we're going to have problems.
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You know, we have in Islam the idea that they have their own legal system.
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There are 85 Sharia courts in the UK now, which is more than the rest of Europe combined.
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So they don't even abide by the law of the land.
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But even when they do abide by the law of the land, we have a two-tiered system in the UK now.
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So if a Mohammedan is found guilty of something, the punishment will not be as severe
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as if a white English Christian straight person will be found guilty of the same crime.
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In fact, when the new Labour government came in, which was just last year,
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we had a general election at the same time as the US.
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When the new Labour government came in, they said the prisons were full.
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But rather than building new prisons or deporting foreign criminals,
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they let people out, hardened sex offenders, violent criminals, lots of them, foreign entities,
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let them out to create room to lock up people who are retweeting things
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or posting offensive messages on Facebook, for goodness sake.
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It's become absurd that the UK government has realised there's a problem.
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But rather than addressing the problem, which is too tough,
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they'll address the people who are addressing the problem.
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So you raise an alarm bell about something, you whistleblow or you call attention to something,
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you are the one that is going to be severely punished and reprimanded
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And it doesn't matter what the truth is, it matters what the image is that the government
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can put across, the narrative that they can put across.
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And that is that diversity is our strength, multiculturalism is a good thing,
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and immigration built the United Kingdom, all three of which are lies.
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Yeah, it's really amazing to me that so many of the narratives that get pushed in the United States,
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which I think were already tenuous, the idea that America was a land of immigrants
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No, it's a land of settlers, it's a land of conquerors,
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That's very different from someone who comes into a established civilization
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and says, I just expect to receive benefits for being here.
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And yet those narratives have been transferred to England,
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a place that was clearly not built by immigration in no way, shape or form.
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And it's just kind of wild that this asset of secular humanism that really has been brought about
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in liberal modernity, of course, it's impacted all of the countries that you rightly point out
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were Christendom, part of the West were Christendom.
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In the United States, we see this in just a general move towards secularity.
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But in the UK, because you're mass immigration, we both get mass immigration.
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Isn't that amazing how that's so important to every government in Christendom all of a sudden?
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But in the United States, the immigrants, while they don't always adhere to it,
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Their cultures are at least Christian in background in that cultural Christianity.
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There's a lot of other culture barriers, but at least you don't have a foreign religion
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Now we're building statues to Hindu gods in Texas.
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So there's a whole other discussion to be had there.
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But the fact that in the UK, you have a significant opposing real religion, not just the secular
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apathy, but a religion that is passionate and actually driven in the way that religions
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should animate you, but towards something that is opposite to your values, that is evil
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in, I think, practice in most cases, that's very difficult for a lot of people to grasp
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because then you have a real clash of religions, right?
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In the United States, we kind of just, oh, well, it's a clash between no religion and
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But in the UK, you have to face the fact that you are really staring down an invasion of
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a true foreign religion that comes with its own ideas, its own ideology, its own court
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In the United States, we hear the idea that it's, well, these people will conform.
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They will eventually integrate into the system.
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It's obviously not happening in the US as well.
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But the numbers and concentrations are so high in the UK that it's true that that can't
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And that was so strange for me when I was at that art conference in London, because so
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many people were talking about Christianity as the foundation of their civilization.
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But when you were asked, well, what are we going to do about the large amount of Islamic
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immigrants who are obviously changing the religion of the country?
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We're not going to be a majority Christian society.
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So even the conservatives who are pushing the idea that Christianity is the foundation
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of the nation still don't have the will to just say basic things like, we're going
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to stop importing foreign religions and we're going to deport the people who shouldn't
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If we want mass immigration, and that's a conversation to be had, if we want it, which
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seems to be the case at the moment with our governments, that we should be importing people
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from southern Sudan, northern Nigeria, Artsakh, Kalmenia, we should be importing Christians
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who are persecuted in Mohammedan countries, rather than their persecutors, rather than
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Mohammedan oppressors, which we seem to be doing en masse, and then expecting some kind
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of weird integration, which is never going to be the case.
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And they can lie in order to get there, or they can use brute force.
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You alluded to it in your introduction, that young British girls are being killed, and that's
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apart from the ones that are being groomed and raped on a regular basis up and down the
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country by Mohammedan men, because there's a cultural clash there.
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They don't see our native young white British girls as equal.
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Therefore, they're able to do what they want with them.
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And it's abhorrent, it's evil, and it should be frowned upon, but no one dares.
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And so we have, it's swept under the rug, under the carpet by the police force, the local
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authorities, the national authorities, whether it's the MPs or the Lords.
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And some of them have been found guilty of being complicit in this.
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And so people who raise it, such as my friend Tommy Robinson, end up in prison, whereas the
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Mohammedan rapists and murderers are out on the streets.
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And at the same time as this, our establishment are pushing Islam.
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The prime minister invited Mohammedans into the House of Parliament, the Houses of Parliament,
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Westminster Palace, to pray their adhan, to break their fast of iftar during Ramadan.
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And the king of England did the same thing in Windsor Castle.
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He also sat there, you know, putting dates into boxes for them to give to them, to break
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And so there's an idea that they're allowing Mohammedans to conquer by practice, by praying
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in what should be Christian venues, praying to the false god, praying to their demon, which
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is abhorrent anywhere, in any church, in any palace, castle that has a Christian denomination.
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But especially when the king of England is supposed to be defender of the faith and supreme
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governor of the Church of England, he's essentially a spiritual leader, a church leader, and he's
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Just, you know, as you and I record today, it's the Tridium.
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We've seen the release of the king's Easter message, where he mentions Judaism and Islam
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in the message of Easter, for goodness sake, about the passion, death, and resurrection
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of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for us, who forgives us of
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And if we repent and have faith in him, offers us eternal life.
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That's the message of Easter, not that it's about Jewish ethics or Islam shares our values.
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There's no place for a multicultural, multi-faith message in an Easter sermon, for goodness sake.
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But they're pushing it so hard that I think people are waking up to it.
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You mentioned at Ark, you know, I was also there, and many of our conservative leaders
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got on stage, and they say things like, well, we haven't tried liberalism hard enough.
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And the ones that dare mention Christianity have to say Judeo-Christian values.
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And what are these values they're talking about?
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They can't say Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
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The only people that can are the Americans that get invited over.
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And it's a great shame that the so-called conservative leaders in Britain are disconnected, because
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the ordinary folk that you talk to on the ground, even at Ark, the ordinary folk are
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like, well, yeah, of course, we're based on Christian values.
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How are you pushing back against the invading barbarians that are no longer at the gates,
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You know, the United Kingdom, for the first time in our country's history, is no longer
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Atheism, agnosticism, and Islam are taking over.
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By 2050, it will be a predominantly Islamic country.
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This is the truth, that unless we change something right now, the country will be lost forever.
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It will become an Islamic caliphate in no time.
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We already have over 15 members of parliament who are elected off the basis of vote for Gaza
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You had to be explicitly an Anglican Protestant Christian to even stand for parliament.
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You cannot call yourself a Christian on the one hand and say all faiths are equal on the
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Either you believe in a universal objective truth, which is Jesus Christ, or you don't.
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You know, what's been really interesting is to watch guys who are atheists, like Richard
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Dawkins, suddenly say, oh, you know, I spent the last 30, 40 years of my life attempting
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And all of a sudden, those lovely Christmas carols and all of those cathedrals that I liked
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so much that I thought defined England are disappearing.
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I mean, I thought I could just hollow out everything that my civilization was built on and just
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sit on top of it and nothing would fill the void.
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I thought I could pick the flowers out of, you know, from the roots.
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I could separate them from the roots, cut the flowers, and they would just flourish forever.
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And it's kind of amazing that people who literally win prizes for their scientific work, obviously
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are not unintelligent people, cannot make a simple connection here.
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And the only thing I can really tie this to is the liberalism that you're discussing.
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It's the element that tells people, well, I can have Christian values without any in Christianity.
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I don't need to have it to actually live out these things.
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But when they find themselves in the situation where that has actually been removed, all of
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And they think at some point they're just going to kind of like maybe give enough facts or
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Again, the number of people who would whisper in hushed tones about Christianity.
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And I thought our leaders are weak, but man, you guys are wet.
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Like they feel like they're just the most transgressive, radical right wing people in
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the world for whispering like, I believe in Christian values.
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And in a moment like that, where so many of the people who have worked against Christianity,
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have hollowed it out, have pushed for the secularism, are suddenly recognizing the cost,
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but still seem unwilling to take any substantive action to make any changes.
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Where do you think that England finds its ability to surge back from this?
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Do you see in the younger population or another generation hope that people are reattaching that
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Or has ultimately too much been removed for them to find their way back?
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The United Kingdom has been running on fumes for the last hundred years.
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After World War I and World War II, we lost our empire.
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And we've been running on the fruits of the faith without the faith itself.
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And this is where people like Richard Dawkins come in, because they seem to assume that
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we can have the values of Christianity without the faith in Christ.
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You can't pick and choose the bits that you like.
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And so what we're seeing is, for the last hundred years, we've been trying to float by on
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abstract morality that's loosely based on Christianity, and it doesn't work.
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And so the younger generation is reacting to this.
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We are seeing an increase in the number of young people, Generation Z, who are searching
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for tradition and finding the Christian faith and finding that this is what we are built
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upon, what our nation was built upon, what the West or Christendom was built upon.
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Now, it's never too late in God's terms, and there's always room for revival.
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However, in terms of us, in terms of mankind, there's no political solution.
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There is no party that supports a Christian nation.
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There's barely a party that supports a nation at this point.
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You know, we're looking at the most right-wing party we can find, reform, with Nigel Farage.
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People think, oh, yeah, well, he was a Brexiteer.
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But even he's saying there's nothing we can do about mass immigration, nothing we can
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do about the massive number of Mohammedans we have in our country.
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Therefore, we need to engage them and encourage them.
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No, we need mass deportation of every single foreign criminal, mass deportation of everyone
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that's entered the country illegally, mass deportation of everyone that has values that
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are contradictory to our own, and we need to settle on what we are as a country.
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There's no confidence anymore in who Britain is.
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I keep reminding people there's only one Lord and Savior.
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If we return to him, there's a chance, there's a hope of revival, of miracles like what we've
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But if we don't, on mass, I can't see it happening.
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I don't really think Britain is savable in my lifetime, to be honest with you.
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Maybe in a couple of generations, if the younger people continue in this trend.
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But this trend, as great as it is to see, isn't outdoing the demographic change of
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the mass migration and the conversions and the mass takeover of Islam.
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You mentioned there that England has lost its identity.
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And I think that's true of so many countries in Christendom.
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I think the question that is really the question of our age is, who are we?
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It triggers all kinds of accusations of racism and xenophobia and whatever, all that stuff
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that if you still care about at this point, you're cooked.
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Like, I don't, if in 2025, someone calls you a racist or a xenophobe or Islamophobe or
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any of that, and it touches your soul in the slightest, you're not going to make it.
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That said, you know, the myth of multiculturalism has made it very difficult for a lot of people
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to grasp the idea of what a nation is and should be.
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And one of the things that you touched on there and one things that kind of broke out
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as a debate a few months ago, actually, I think when, while I was at ARC, was the, I'm
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trying to remember, it was some talk show or someone had, someone had asserted that England
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was an actual, English was an actual ethnicity.
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And the, and, you know, everyone got very offended.
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There's, there's no, there's no ethnicity that is English.
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You know, they, maybe they all just dropped from the sky.
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And so, and so this idea that there is no ethnic, ethnic Englishmen or, you know, in the United
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There's only the, the, the cauldron of other nations and other beliefs that get mixed in
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I mean, that's even less true in England than it is in the United States.
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And yet it still seems to have a large amount of power.
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I wonder as somebody of mixed heritage, if you might have a particular perspective on
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this identity, because so many people would look at someone like you and say, oh, well,
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if we're starting to decide who's an Englishman and who's not, then you'll just get thrown
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And does that mean we should have no identity and no ethnos and no understanding?
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And I think obviously that's false, but I wonder if you could put into your own words,
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what you think about this idea of identity, English identity.
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The idea that there's never been an English people.
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It's just a hot pot of, a melting pot of just different peoples from different places
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and always has been, or, or we've, we've been a land of immigration, X, Y, and Z.
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The English people have always been, yes, there have been changes as there have been in
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I'm not arguing that, but I'm saying that there is a people that are based in a place.
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So Great Britain, the landmass has always had a people there that are ethnically English
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And, and it's, it's a different thing from being British.
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It's different thing from being Welsh or Scottish.
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The term British has come to incorporate all of that in the United Kingdom, which is a modern
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The idea of that England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales come together to form a united
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And therefore anyone who moves to the United Kingdom can become a British, what used to
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You can become a British citizen, but it doesn't make you ethnically English.
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It doesn't make you ethnically Welsh or ethnically Scottish.
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And also people will say, well, there can't be an ethnically English and an ethnically Scottish
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Well, yes, we share a lot in common because of the continuum of the landmass, but they're
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There are differences between Scots and Englishmen and Welshmen.
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And, and it's a shared, there is a shared heritage, absolutely.
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But there's also a difference in the, in the ethnicity.
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For example, you, you're far more likely to find ginger people in, in the other countries
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than you would in England, which is generally a darker, darker haired people.
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But to be white, to be Christian, to be born in the South of Great Britain in England, and
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to speak the English language and to take on board English culture, these are things that
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And you're quite right that in the modern world, this is problematic for people because
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they'll look at someone like me and say, well, you're mixed race.
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Surely we need to do away with these old categories.
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If we don't protect what we know to be true, then we lose it.
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And I don't want to lose the English ethnicity.
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I think it's a very important thing because we're rooted in time.
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So my personal ethnicity is that I'm half English, half Afro-Caribbean.
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My mother's side of the family are English as far back as we can see.
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They've been always rooted in that, in that land.
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My father's side of the family came from the Caribbean, which I assume were originally
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But the black side of my family doesn't override the white side any more than the white side
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And so I have a dual heritage being mixed race.
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And you can argue in favor or against multi-ethnicity, all you like.
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But that is a very different thing to multiculturalism.
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Otherwise, it will be just constant battling and warfare.
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You can argue in favor of having a minority culture, if you like.
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You can see we can have ethnic minorities here.
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But you still have to have a predominant culture, a predominant ethnicity, and a predominant
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And England has always been predominantly English, predominantly Christian, and predominantly
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And to argue against those things, I would say it's actually racist.
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People like the former first minister of Scotland who say it's a problem that Scotland
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This was an Asian man, a Mohammedan man, who was very aggressive and racist.
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Why would you live in a predominantly white country and expect people to look like you
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I wouldn't move to Japan and say, this is a problem.
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For some reason, we accept it in the West because too many white people are ashamed of
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Too many English people are ashamed of being English.
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Too many Christian people are ashamed of being Christian.
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And I'm not saying to be proud of those things either because pride is a sin.
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And we certainly don't want Christian superiority because we know it's true.
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You don't convert people to it by force or by pride.
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And so we know these things because the scriptures tell us how to evangelize and how to disciple
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through modesty and humility and through being a light to the nations.
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The English culture, I happen to feel, is one of the best cultures in the world.
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The British Empire was the best empire in human history.
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It spread Christianity in the English language around the world.
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However, I'm not going to say tear down all other cultures, tear down all other empires,
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But if you come to my land, you take on board my values, my faith, my culture, or don't come.
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I mean, you have to have some degree of chauvinism about your own culture for it to survive,
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If you do not have a preference for your own culture, then it will be ground down and destroyed,
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And it's really important, I think, that you pointed out there that if you want assimilation,
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if that's your real goal, if that's actually what you want people to do, then, of course,
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you need a culture for them to assimilate, too.
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There has to be something that they are reaching towards.
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And that doesn't mean people who aren't of that thing are lesser.
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It doesn't mean that they can't eventually join the society through generational contact,
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intermarriage, the language, sharing the religion, all of these things.
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As you point out, over time, no ethnicity is static.
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All of these things, all living traditions and ethnicities are changing, because all living
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And so this means that there will be some level of integration with the new.
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That's always going to be true, no matter what you're doing.
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Even the most wild ethno-nationalist needs to grasp this, that this is a real thing about
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And no civilization ever survives by completely trying to close itself off and freeze it in
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But that said, you have to understand that it is still assimilation to an idea, to a culture,
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And if you don't have that, then it's going to eventually start to crumble.
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Now, one of the things that you said early on that I think was interesting is you pointed
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out that because the Church of England dominates so much of the religious life of what is left
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in the UK, it made it very difficult to do things outside of that church, which was now
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being dominated by wokeness, which had been taken over by leftism.
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A lot of people, I'm an evangelical Christian, I'm a Southern Baptist, and that's the tradition
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I tell people I'm evangelical for the most Catholic reason possible, because it's the
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faith of my father and my father's father and his father before him.
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But one of the things that is an argument that I usually hear from Catholics or from Eastern
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Orthodox Christians is that it's the continuity of the church, it's the continuity of the tradition,
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And I'm not someone who is reflexively against the establishment of a state church.
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But that said, I don't have a knee-jerk reaction to that existence.
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But I do have to say, when we look at what has happened with the Church of England, and
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to some degree with the Catholic Church, I'm not sure that the arguments that my more
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Orthodox friends make about the institution protecting the doctrine and the beliefs of the
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I know a lot of more Southern Baptists who may not have, you know, the firmest grasp of
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Orthodoxy, but are socially and biblically more conservative than people in a Church of
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England who, theoretically, were guarded by that institution.
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England was a Christian country for a thousand years.
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Most of the Catholic countries around Europe have been Catholic for a thousand years or more.
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Having a state church benefited countries far more than not having a state church.
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America is very, very new, a very modern experiment.
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And even in that short period of time, we've seen that, you know, when the states, when the
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colonies had their own churches, established churches, and the first states had their established
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churches, the faith was more predominant than it is now when it's a laissez-faire approach
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Not that there was a forced approach, but once the state had an established church, it
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The problem at the moment is that UK, in particular, the Church of England has lost the faith.
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So even though it is the established church, it's not really a church.
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It's just, I don't know, some kind of members club at this point.
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They've got women bishops, you know, women leaders, shepherds.
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They have no solid foundation on the Christian teachings in terms of abortion or contraception.
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But it's not because it's an established church.
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It's because it's no longer a church, I would say.
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Having an established church that is solid, that has sound teaching, and is an orthodox,
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small O, in Catholic, small C, is far more beneficial to a people than to not have a state church.
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Like I said, I'm still on the fence on that one.
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But, you know, that already puts me well outside of most evangelicals.
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So, you know, that said, another thing that you mentioned earlier that I know you've caught
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some flack for is pointing out that the need to insert Judeo-Christian into this language.
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We hear this all the time as, you know, many times at the ARC conferences, very rarely
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And, you know, the need to do that seems very strange.
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In a way, again, it feels like we're abstracting the Christian values away from Christianity,
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So abstract that we compare another religion to them, right?
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Many, you know, Christianity came out of Judaism, but they are pretty decisively different religions.
00:36:37.940
If I walked up to Ben Shapiro and said, hey, you're basically a Christian, I got a feeling
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he wouldn't take that particularly well, nor should he, understandably, that's not his
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And yet, for some reason, we're told on a pretty regular basis, well, this is just the
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Like, they're very different things when it comes to worship or this kind of thing.
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But when it comes to value systems, it's basically exactly the same thing.
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Jesus taught a lot of stuff, and most of it wasn't in the Old Testament.
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I think it was the fulfillment of the Old Testament, but it's not things that Old Testament
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Jews were believing about the Bible at that time or today.
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And so, I guess, what do you think about this usage of Judeo-Christian?
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Why is it so prominent across conservative movements, both in the United States and in
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My conservative Jewish friends have a problem with it as much as I do as a conservative
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Right, because it's diluting both faiths into one.
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We don't find the Mohammedans saying Judeo-Christian Islam, because, of course, they don't.
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Even though Islam comes from Christian roots, I would say it's a Catholic heresy, but they
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acknowledge the people, Jesus and Mary and Joseph, they'd acknowledge these people, but
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they wouldn't say, our faith is Christian Islam, because it's a ridiculous argument.
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Christian faith is a separate faith to the modern Jewish faith.
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And you're absolutely right in that Jesus taught a lot of things that are not in the
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He'd say things like, you know, to not commit adultery is no longer the limit.
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You have to no longer think about not committing adultery.
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You know, he took it from crime to thought crime, to put it into modern context.
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He taught us that sin is internal, not just external.
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That was the divorce from Judaism into Christianity.
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It was about what's in your heart, not just what you act.
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Of course there are, because we took on board much of the Pentateuch.
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We took on board much of the Old Testament writings, because God revealed himself through
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And the New Testament is the fulfillment of that revelation.
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And so we can't have part of it without the whole thing.
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And people often say to me, well, you know, when you say Jewish Christianity, it's just
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Well, we don't need an acknowledgement, because we understand that the Christian Bible is the
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We don't need to add a caveat to say, oh, we also include the old bit, which came from
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It's a misnomer that is a very modern idea that's part of the post-war consensus that said
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that the Christian church has been too harsh towards modern Jews, because obviously it's
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always been the teaching that Jews killed Christ and rejected Christ.
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The Jews that accepted Christ are Christians, Christ followers.
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And the Gentiles that followed Christ are also Christians.
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So the Jews and the Gentiles are no longer Jews and Gentiles.
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The modern day Jews are people that reject Christ.
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So it's a different belief set to the Jews that embraced the Messiah.
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And a lot of it comes down to just bad theology.
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That this dispensationalism that's very rife in America, and this idea that Israel should
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be put on some kind of pedestal because the modern nation of Israel, which was founded
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in 1948 by my country, is somehow the Israel of the Bible, where the Israel of the Bible
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It's the Israel of the Bible is to lead people to Christ.
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The church is the spiritual Israel, the new Israel.
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But it's our job as Christians to be a light in the world, to lead people to the true
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And so people who say, actually, no, no, that modern nation of Israel is the Israel that
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we need to, we need to pretty much, they worship it.
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They idolize it above everything else, above every other nation, above every other people.
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That is, well, that's sinful, that's idolatry, that's a grave error, and people need to be
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And they think it's anti-Semitism to raise that issue.
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And there's a stark difference between hating a demographic and saying you shouldn't worship
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Yeah, which unfortunately is America's only understanding of not hating a demographic.
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The only other option seems to be to worship it on a regular basis.
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I should have said that earlier, if you're doing super chats, sorry, I can't answer them.
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We can't see them right now, but thank you very much for that.
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But I would be remiss if I didn't ask a man of the cloth on this day of all days, what
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And what should we be praying for, both for ourselves, our families, and importantly,
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in this context, our nations that God will do for us and what we should be grateful
00:41:36.560
So traditionally, on Good Friday, we fast and we abstain.
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And so we put ourselves in a state of penance while we reflect on the death and the crucifixion
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Because we are so wretched, because we are so sinful that we have nothing of our own to
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And having had our Lord sacrifice himself for us, we owe him a debt of gratitude.
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We owe him to be less sinful, to strive towards holiness, to strive towards goodness.
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And on the other hand, he demonstrates a true love to us.
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We need to remember that love isn't what I feel.
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So we should be giving ourselves to him and for him and for each other, to each other.
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And that's how we can love each other, by truly laying down our lives for the people
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And that might mean telling a loved one the truth.
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If they say, I'm now a boy and I was a girl, it might mean helping feed a homeless
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It might mean giving someone the time of day and listening to their troubles.
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It could be a whole host of things, but it's a giving of ourselves to someone else.
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And that's, I think, one of the most important messages we can hear in modern life when we
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Because Christ wasn't worried about what he felt when he was hung on that cross for us.
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And through doing that, through that grave act, that barbaric act, he defeated death.
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Either an eternal life away from him or an eternal life in him, with him.
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And so on this day every year, we should be reflecting of, am I doing everything I can
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And again, in modern society, we don't like to talk about the alternative.
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We barely talk about sin, never mind the consequences of sin, which is eternal damnation.
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To live in a state of sin is to live in a state apart from God.
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To live in hell is that eternal fire and damnation, that weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Imagine going through something difficult for a moment.
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Now multiply that moment by months, by years, by eternity.
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And so we should be doing all we can in this short time that we have on earth to head towards
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To love him, to love our neighbor, and to repent of our sins.
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But as long as we're on that journey, that upward journey, then we're not on the downward
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The most important message on one of the most important days in history.
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