The Auron MacIntyre Show - Can Christianity Revive the UK？｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson ｜ 4⧸23⧸25

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00:01:10.500 I think we have talked at length about the problems that are facing the United Kingdom.

00:01:16.500 We know the many different types of oppression and ways in which the citizens there have been censored.

00:01:23.040 But today, I wanted to talk a little about the spiritual aspects of this battle because I think ultimately it is a war of the spirit.

00:01:32.260 Joining me today to talk about that is a father, a priest from the UK.

00:01:36.420 He's now in the United States visiting.

00:01:38.360 Calvin Robinson, thank you for joining me.

00:01:40.400 Yes, my absolute pleasure.

00:01:41.580 Thank you for having me on.

00:01:43.160 Of course.

00:01:43.740 I want to dive into, like I said, the events that the UK is experiencing and how the spiritual struggle, I think, is underlying the entire thing.

00:01:52.880 But before we get started, I think a lot of people have probably seen you on TV.

00:01:57.140 They've seen you, but they may not know your backstory.

00:01:59.300 Could you give a little bit of an idea for people how you came to the faith, how you came to the position you are now, and why you feel it's important to speak out in your situation?

00:02:08.580 That's a big question.

00:02:09.620 I came into the church through the Church of England.

00:02:15.780 I trained and was formed in a seminary in Oxford.

00:02:19.680 And towards the end of that, after I completed my training, I realized how I'd have to serve within a woke institution.

00:02:27.440 And I came up against real terms battles against feminism, against anti-racism and all the usual woke ideologies.

00:02:38.620 And I realized that I would actually not be able to properly serve in such an environment.

00:02:44.360 And so I ended up, for a time, serving outside of the Church of England in England, which is difficult in itself because the vast majority of the church in England is England, is the Church of England.

00:02:57.340 And so it has a stranglehold almost on the faith, which is sad because the C of E has become entirely liberal, progressive, and woke in all these areas, from the sanctity of life to trans, you know, they've got the first trans archdeacon.

00:03:10.300 And so it's difficult to have church outside of the C of E, essentially.

00:03:17.120 And I did that for a couple of years in the heart of London, in the thick of it, in a very Mohammedan area where evangelization is important, but also where Christianity is almost persecuted.

00:03:29.700 In fact, I would say it probably is at this point.

00:03:32.180 And then, thankfully, I was called out here to West Michigan.

00:03:35.820 And I serve, or until recently, was serving in a small parish church here in Grand Rapids, which is actually a very, very blessed experience for me, I believe, and also for them.

00:03:46.440 It's been great.

00:03:47.320 Coming out to America where people believe in freedom, people believe in Christ, and they're able to say those things openly and outwardly, it's a wonderful thing to observe.

00:03:55.820 And I think, in all honesty, it's actually a great shame that my homeland no longer does that, either of those things, which is probably related to the mess that it's in right now.

00:04:04.280 But in terms of my background, my story, ordained a deacon in the Anglican Church, ordained a priest in the old Catholic jurisdiction, which is a very unique setup that has orders and sacraments recognized by Rome, but not in the jurisdiction of Rome.

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00:04:22.640 And that, I think, is an elevated picture of where I am today and how I got there.

00:04:28.020 Absolutely.

00:04:28.460 Yeah, I know it's a long story, but it's good for people to get a little bit of that context, I think, going in.

00:04:33.780 Well, like I said, we're going to dive into the events in the UK, how you think those are connected to the spiritual struggle that they are facing, and ultimately what I think is a war of religion that's actively happening inside the UK.

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00:05:50.320 All right, Calvin.

00:05:52.960 I think a lot of people are familiar with some of the insanity coming out of the UK.

00:05:57.160 Like I said, on this program, we certainly have covered it several times.

00:06:01.120 And you look at what's going on.

00:06:03.120 People can't pray in their heads.

00:06:05.320 There's literally thought crime.

00:06:07.060 You have people who are getting threatened with hate crimes simply for saying,

00:06:11.440 please speak English in England, the place where English came from.

00:06:15.780 You have obviously people getting in serious trouble just for pointing out the Muslim invasion 1.00

00:06:21.340 that's happening in the UK and saying that they'd like to see something done about it. 0.93

00:06:25.160 Maybe we shouldn't let migrants stab small children on a regular basis. 1.00

00:06:29.820 And yet somehow, even though this has been very evident for a long time,

00:06:34.480 most of the West has ignored what is going on there.

00:06:37.260 They treat the UK as just another Western liberal democracy.

00:06:40.860 And sadly, if you look at some of the behaviors of places like Canada, maybe they're right about that.

00:06:46.340 But what do you think led to this moment?

00:06:49.380 I've now been to the UK several times.

00:06:51.720 It's an amazing country with amazing people.

00:06:54.640 And many of them don't want this to happen.

00:06:57.500 You can feel that in the room when you're talking to people who are politically minded.

00:07:01.340 But at the same time, there seems to be a hesitance to recognize the severity of the problem

00:07:06.140 or what would be necessary in order to escape it.

00:07:08.720 Yes, it is a great shame because it's such a beautiful country.

00:07:12.660 There's so much heritage there, you know, from the ancient architecture,

00:07:15.780 those great beautiful cathedrals to the language and the common law

00:07:20.460 and all of the great things that America inherited when it was founded.

00:07:23.760 And it's all being wasted because liberalism has created a monster, essentially.

00:07:30.980 Liberalism painted this idea that there could be a secular, neutral society,

00:07:35.240 politically neutral, faithfully neutral, and we'd all just get along.

00:07:38.380 It'd be great.

00:07:39.060 You know, this idea of multiculturalism.

00:07:41.460 But of course, what liberalism has done is it's ripped Christianity out of the public life.

00:07:48.320 And of course, once you take something out, you create a vacuum.

00:07:51.580 And that's what's happened.

00:07:52.480 And that vacuum is being filled with Islam. 1.00

00:07:54.400 And Islam is very counter to Western society. 1.00

00:07:58.120 You know, before we called it the West, we used to call it Christendom

00:08:00.360 because it's based on Christian foundations, Christian values and the Christian faith.

00:08:03.960 And so take them away.

00:08:05.240 Something has to replace them. 0.93

00:08:06.940 And when you have an ideology that is inherently toxic, that was founded by a warmongering pedophile

00:08:12.780 that spread through brute force and is essentially undermining the rule of democracy,

00:08:18.080 the rule of law, undermining the idea that all people are created equal in the eyes of God,

00:08:22.840 and undermining the idea that all human life is sacred,

00:08:25.900 and every step of the way, then we're going to have problems.

00:08:29.040 And it is literally doing that.

00:08:30.980 You know, we have in Islam the idea that they have their own legal system.

00:08:35.400 There are 85 Sharia courts in the UK now, which is more than the rest of Europe combined.

00:08:40.160 So they don't even abide by the law of the land.

00:08:42.800 But even when they do abide by the law of the land, we have a two-tiered system in the UK now.

00:08:47.780 So if a Mohammedan is found guilty of something, the punishment will not be as severe 0.94

00:08:53.240 as if a white English Christian straight person will be found guilty of the same crime.

00:08:58.260 We have this time and time again.

00:08:59.620 In fact, when the new Labour government came in, which was just last year,

00:09:03.680 we had a general election at the same time as the US.

00:09:05.860 When the new Labour government came in, they said the prisons were full.

00:09:09.520 And they were full.

00:09:10.640 But rather than building new prisons or deporting foreign criminals, 0.65

00:09:14.900 they let people out, hardened sex offenders, violent criminals, lots of them, foreign entities, 1.00

00:09:21.040 let them out to create room to lock up people who are retweeting things

00:09:25.500 or posting offensive messages on Facebook, for goodness sake.

00:09:29.760 It's become absurd that the UK government has realised there's a problem.

00:09:34.120 But rather than addressing the problem, which is too tough,

00:09:36.540 they'll address the people who are addressing the problem.

00:09:38.520 So you raise an alarm bell about something, you whistleblow or you call attention to something,

00:09:42.900 you are the one that is going to be severely punished and reprimanded

00:09:46.320 because you're stoking tensions.

00:09:49.120 And it doesn't matter what the truth is, it matters what the image is that the government

00:09:54.220 can put across, the narrative that they can put across.

00:09:56.820 And that is that diversity is our strength, multiculturalism is a good thing,

00:10:01.780 and immigration built the United Kingdom, all three of which are lies. 0.91

00:10:07.380 Yeah, it's really amazing to me that so many of the narratives that get pushed in the United States,

00:10:11.920 which I think were already tenuous, the idea that America was a land of immigrants

00:10:16.380 and it was built entirely on immigration.

00:10:18.500 No, it's a land of settlers, it's a land of conquerors, 0.75

00:10:20.920 whether you, however you feel about that.

00:10:23.200 That's very different from someone who comes into a established civilization 0.99

00:10:26.760 and says, I just expect to receive benefits for being here.

00:10:30.900 And yet those narratives have been transferred to England,

00:10:34.160 a place that was clearly not built by immigration in no way, shape or form.

00:10:40.020 And yet here they are echoing the same thing.

00:10:42.660 And it's just kind of wild that this asset of secular humanism that really has been brought about

00:10:49.680 in liberal modernity, of course, it's impacted all of the countries that you rightly point out

00:10:55.360 were Christendom, part of the West were Christendom.

00:10:58.160 In the United States, we see this in just a general move towards secularity.

00:11:03.080 But in the UK, because you're mass immigration, we both get mass immigration.

00:11:07.140 Isn't that amazing how that's so important to every government in Christendom all of a sudden?

00:11:11.440 But we all get mass immigration.

00:11:13.600 But in the United States, the immigrants, while they don't always adhere to it, 1.00

00:11:16.960 are at least nominally Catholic or Christian.

00:11:19.560 Their cultures are at least Christian in background in that cultural Christianity.

00:11:23.700 There's a lot of other culture barriers, but at least you don't have a foreign religion 1.00

00:11:27.420 coming in for the most part, though.

00:11:29.680 Now we're building statues to Hindu gods in Texas.

00:11:31.920 So there's a whole other discussion to be had there.

00:11:34.540 But the fact that in the UK, you have a significant opposing real religion, not just the secular

00:11:43.160 apathy, but a religion that is passionate and actually driven in the way that religions

00:11:48.920 should animate you, but towards something that is opposite to your values, that is evil

00:11:53.100 in, I think, practice in most cases, that's very difficult for a lot of people to grasp

00:11:59.560 because then you have a real clash of religions, right?

00:12:02.620 In the United States, we kind of just, oh, well, it's a clash between no religion and

00:12:06.260 Christianity.

00:12:07.300 But in the UK, you have to face the fact that you are really staring down an invasion of

00:12:11.900 a true foreign religion that comes with its own ideas, its own ideology, its own court 0.85

00:12:16.640 system, its own beliefs.

00:12:18.180 And there is no integration there, right?

00:12:20.320 In the United States, we hear the idea that it's, well, these people will conform.

00:12:23.560 They will eventually integrate into the system.

00:12:27.240 In the UK, that's obviously not happening.

00:12:29.480 It's obviously not happening in the US as well.

00:12:31.160 But the numbers and concentrations are so high in the UK that it's true that that can't

00:12:35.360 even be the goal.

00:12:36.420 And that was so strange for me when I was at that art conference in London, because so

00:12:41.180 many people were talking about Christianity as the foundation of their civilization.

00:12:45.060 And good, that's true, of course.

00:12:47.380 But when you were asked, well, what are we going to do about the large amount of Islamic 1.00

00:12:51.260 immigrants who are obviously changing the religion of the country? 1.00

00:12:54.680 The answer was, well, we're not.

00:12:56.860 We're not going to be a majority Christian society. 1.00

00:12:59.140 We're just going to be multicultural.

00:13:01.420 So even the conservatives who are pushing the idea that Christianity is the foundation

00:13:04.860 of the nation still don't have the will to just say basic things like, we're going

00:13:09.660 to stop importing foreign religions and we're going to deport the people who shouldn't 1.00

00:13:13.940 be here.

00:13:15.380 Indeed.

00:13:16.180 If we want mass immigration, and that's a conversation to be had, if we want it, which

00:13:20.660 seems to be the case at the moment with our governments, that we should be importing people 1.00

00:13:24.080 from southern Sudan, northern Nigeria, Artsakh, Kalmenia, we should be importing Christians 1.00

00:13:29.560 who are persecuted in Mohammedan countries, rather than their persecutors, rather than

00:13:33.620 Mohammedan oppressors, which we seem to be doing en masse, and then expecting some kind 1.00

00:13:37.880 of weird integration, which is never going to be the case.

00:13:40.280 Of course it isn't.

00:13:41.320 Islam is about conquering. 0.87

00:13:42.620 It's about dominion.

00:13:43.840 It's about taking over by force.

00:13:46.120 And they can lie in order to get there, or they can use brute force.

00:13:49.620 So we're seeing that at the moment.

00:13:51.080 You alluded to it in your introduction, that young British girls are being killed, and that's

00:13:56.880 apart from the ones that are being groomed and raped on a regular basis up and down the 0.94

00:14:02.720 country by Mohammedan men, because there's a cultural clash there. 0.98

00:14:06.040 They don't see our native young white British girls as equal. 0.97

00:14:10.180 They don't see them as human.

00:14:11.080 They see them as less than.

00:14:12.460 Therefore, they're able to do what they want with them.

00:14:14.140 And it's abhorrent, it's evil, and it should be frowned upon, but no one dares.

00:14:18.780 And so we have, it's swept under the rug, under the carpet by the police force, the local

00:14:24.000 authorities, the national authorities, whether it's the MPs or the Lords.

00:14:27.820 And some of them have been found guilty of being complicit in this.

00:14:31.380 And so people who raise it, such as my friend Tommy Robinson, end up in prison, whereas the

00:14:36.400 Mohammedan rapists and murderers are out on the streets. 1.00

00:14:39.340 It's insane what's going on. 1.00

00:14:41.260 And at the same time as this, our establishment are pushing Islam. 0.93

00:14:44.820 The prime minister invited Mohammedans into the House of Parliament, the Houses of Parliament,

00:14:50.600 Westminster Palace, to pray their adhan, to break their fast of iftar during Ramadan.

00:14:57.760 And the king of England did the same thing in Windsor Castle.

00:15:03.200 He invited them in.

00:15:04.060 He also sat there, you know, putting dates into boxes for them to give to them, to break

00:15:08.380 their fast for iftar at Ramadan.

00:15:10.480 And so there's an idea that they're allowing Mohammedans to conquer by practice, by praying 0.98

00:15:15.920 in what should be Christian venues, praying to the false god, praying to their demon, which 1.00

00:15:20.900 is abhorrent anywhere, in any church, in any palace, castle that has a Christian denomination. 0.94

00:15:27.200 But especially when the king of England is supposed to be defender of the faith and supreme

00:15:32.180 governor of the Church of England, he's essentially a spiritual leader, a church leader, and he's

00:15:36.540 letting us down.

00:15:37.780 And we see this across the board.

00:15:39.500 Just, you know, as you and I record today, it's the Tridium.

00:15:43.980 It's going to be Easter Sunday this weekend.

00:15:47.500 We've seen the release of the king's Easter message, where he mentions Judaism and Islam

00:15:54.220 in the message of Easter, for goodness sake, about the passion, death, and resurrection

00:15:58.840 of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for us, who forgives us of

00:16:03.580 our sins.

00:16:04.100 And if we repent and have faith in him, offers us eternal life.

00:16:07.220 That's the message of Easter, not that it's about Jewish ethics or Islam shares our values.

00:16:14.200 First and foremost, they're both lies.

00:16:15.900 But secondly, that message has no place.

00:16:18.020 There's no place for a multicultural, multi-faith message in an Easter sermon, for goodness sake. 1.00

00:16:24.500 But they're pushing it so hard that I think people are waking up to it.

00:16:28.480 But you're right.

00:16:28.900 You mentioned at Ark, you know, I was also there, and many of our conservative leaders

00:16:34.160 got on stage, and they say things like, well, we haven't tried liberalism hard enough.

00:16:37.600 We need more liberalism.

00:16:38.920 And the ones that dare mention Christianity have to say Judeo-Christian values.

00:16:43.400 And what are these values they're talking about?

00:16:45.260 It's so abstract.

00:16:46.160 They can't say the Christian faith.

00:16:48.120 They can't say Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

00:16:50.280 The only people that can are the Americans that get invited over. 0.99

00:16:53.580 And it's a great shame that the so-called conservative leaders in Britain are disconnected, because

00:16:58.900 the ordinary folk that you talk to on the ground, even at Ark, the ordinary folk are

00:17:02.340 like, well, yeah, of course, we're based on Christian values.

00:17:04.480 Okay, so which church are you going to?

00:17:06.480 Which crusade are you leading?

00:17:08.000 How are you pushing back against the invading barbarians that are no longer at the gates, 0.93

00:17:12.480 but have taken over?

00:17:13.520 You know, the United Kingdom, for the first time in our country's history, is no longer

00:17:18.180 predominantly Christian.

00:17:19.660 Atheism, agnosticism, and Islam are taking over. 1.00

00:17:23.640 By 2050, it will be a predominantly Islamic country.

00:17:26.420 Like, these are statistical facts.

00:17:27.760 This is the demographics.

00:17:28.980 This is not about racism or Islamophobia.

00:17:30.720 This is the truth, that unless we change something right now, the country will be lost forever.

00:17:36.440 It will become an Islamic caliphate in no time. 1.00

00:17:38.980 We already have over 15 members of parliament who are elected off the basis of vote for Gaza

00:17:43.960 or vote for Islam.

00:17:45.920 That used to be illegal 100 years ago.

00:17:47.720 You had to be explicitly an Anglican Protestant Christian to even stand for parliament.

00:17:52.620 And that's all gone.

00:17:53.880 It's no longer this is a Christian land.

00:17:56.060 It's, oh, all ideas are equal.

00:17:57.380 All faiths are equal.

00:17:58.440 That cannot be the truth.

00:18:00.000 You cannot call yourself a Christian on the one hand and say all faiths are equal on the 1.00

00:18:03.800 other hand.

00:18:04.360 That's an oxymoron.

00:18:05.560 Either you believe in a universal objective truth, which is Jesus Christ, or you don't.

00:18:11.060 You know, what's been really interesting is to watch guys who are atheists, like Richard

00:18:16.820 Dawkins, suddenly say, oh, you know, I spent the last 30, 40 years of my life attempting

00:18:23.620 to destroy belief in this tradition.

00:18:26.820 But all of a sudden, my country is changing.

00:18:29.080 And all of a sudden, those lovely Christmas carols and all of those cathedrals that I liked

00:18:33.580 so much that I thought defined England are disappearing.

00:18:36.920 They're becoming mosques. 1.00

00:18:37.980 It's calls to prayer instead.

00:18:39.600 It's Ramadan.

00:18:40.260 It's all of these things.

00:18:41.620 And I just don't understand.

00:18:43.080 I mean, I thought I could just hollow out everything that my civilization was built on and just

00:18:49.560 sit on top of it and nothing would fill the void.

00:18:51.800 I thought I could pick the flowers out of, you know, from the roots.

00:18:55.160 I could separate them from the roots, cut the flowers, and they would just flourish forever.

00:18:58.900 And it's kind of amazing that people who literally win prizes for their scientific work, obviously

00:19:06.660 are not unintelligent people, cannot make a simple connection here.

00:19:10.780 And the only thing I can really tie this to is the liberalism that you're discussing.

00:19:16.160 The liberalism is the deracinating element.

00:19:18.840 It's the element that tells people, well, I can have Christian values without any in Christianity. 0.79

00:19:24.080 I don't need it embodied.

00:19:25.280 The faith is immaterial. 0.98

00:19:26.660 I don't need to have it to actually live out these things.

00:19:29.900 It's just the process that will occur.

00:19:32.240 But when they find themselves in the situation where that has actually been removed, all of

00:19:37.080 a sudden, another religion begins to dominate.

00:19:39.380 And they think at some point they're just going to kind of like maybe give enough facts or

00:19:42.920 figures.

00:19:43.460 That was a very confusing thing to me at ARC.

00:19:45.500 Again, the number of people who would whisper in hushed tones about Christianity. 0.97

00:19:50.560 And I thought our leaders are weak, but man, you guys are wet. 0.99

00:19:53.880 It's insane.

00:19:54.840 Like they feel like they're just the most transgressive, radical right wing people in

00:19:58.880 the world for whispering like, I believe in Christian values.

00:20:01.920 You know, it's just insane to watch.

00:20:03.980 And in a moment like that, where so many of the people who have worked against Christianity,

00:20:10.120 have hollowed it out, have pushed for the secularism, are suddenly recognizing the cost,

00:20:14.700 but still seem unwilling to take any substantive action to make any changes.

00:20:19.340 Where do you think that England finds its ability to surge back from this?

00:20:24.940 Do you see in the younger population or another generation hope that people are reattaching that

00:20:30.880 culture and those values to that belief?

00:20:33.700 Or has ultimately too much been removed for them to find their way back?

00:20:37.760 Both, I think.

00:20:40.140 The United Kingdom has been running on fumes for the last hundred years.

00:20:43.420 So we used to be a Christian nation.

00:20:45.180 After World War I and World War II, we lost our empire.

00:20:48.840 We gave it up fighting fascism.

00:20:50.520 As a result, we also lost our faith.

00:20:52.820 And we've been running on the fruits of the faith without the faith itself.

00:20:57.100 And this is where people like Richard Dawkins come in, because they seem to assume that

00:21:01.120 we can have the values of Christianity without the faith in Christ. 0.95

00:21:04.780 You can't.

00:21:05.480 The values come from the faith in Christ.

00:21:07.200 You can't pick and choose the bits that you like.

00:21:08.960 That doesn't work.

00:21:11.040 It's evidencible that this will fall apart.

00:21:13.720 It will crumble.

00:21:14.580 It's a building without foundations.

00:21:16.360 And Christ is the cornerstone.

00:21:18.620 And so what we're seeing is, for the last hundred years, we've been trying to float by on

00:21:23.720 abstract morality that's loosely based on Christianity, and it doesn't work.

00:21:29.840 And so the younger generation is reacting to this.

00:21:33.240 We are seeing an increase in the number of young people, Generation Z, who are searching

00:21:39.860 for tradition and finding the Christian faith and finding that this is what we are built

00:21:43.860 upon, what our nation was built upon, what the West or Christendom was built upon.

00:21:47.560 And so younger people are returning to church.

00:21:49.660 This is a good thing to see.

00:21:50.760 However, it may already be too late.

00:21:54.980 Now, it's never too late in God's terms, and there's always room for revival.

00:21:59.300 There's always room for miracles.

00:22:01.300 I take a big caveat there.

00:22:04.880 However, in terms of us, in terms of mankind, there's no political solution.

00:22:08.780 There's no democratic solution.

00:22:09.900 There is no party that supports a Christian nation.

00:22:13.100 There's barely a party that supports a nation at this point.

00:22:16.460 You know, we're looking at the most right-wing party we can find, reform, with Nigel Farage.

00:22:21.800 People think, oh, yeah, well, he was a Brexiteer.

00:22:23.620 He wanted a sovereign country.

00:22:25.180 Great.

00:22:25.720 But even he's saying there's nothing we can do about mass immigration, nothing we can 0.94

00:22:29.000 do about the massive number of Mohammedans we have in our country. 1.00

00:22:32.680 Therefore, we need to engage them and encourage them.

00:22:35.000 No, we need mass deportation of every single foreign criminal, mass deportation of everyone 1.00

00:22:39.800 that's entered the country illegally, mass deportation of everyone that has values that

00:22:43.880 are contradictory to our own, and we need to settle on what we are as a country.

00:22:48.000 There's no confidence anymore in who Britain is.

00:22:51.440 What is Britain?

00:22:52.200 Who is Britannia?

00:22:53.500 We used to literally rule the waves.

00:22:55.520 The sun never set on the British Empire.

00:22:57.700 Unfortunately, we're past that point.

00:23:00.300 And again, we can't vote our way out of it.

00:23:02.380 And people are looking for a political savior.

00:23:04.060 I keep reminding people there's only one Lord and Savior.

00:23:06.420 He's already been.

00:23:07.680 If we return to him, there's a chance, there's a hope of revival, of miracles like what we've

00:23:13.840 seen in the United States.

00:23:14.700 But if we don't, on mass, I can't see it happening.

00:23:17.900 I don't really think Britain is savable in my lifetime, to be honest with you.

00:23:21.500 Maybe in a couple of generations, if the younger people continue in this trend.

00:23:25.080 But this trend, as great as it is to see, isn't outdoing the demographic change of

00:23:29.780 the mass migration and the conversions and the mass takeover of Islam.

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00:24:03.420 You mentioned there that England has lost its identity.

00:24:08.300 And I think that's true of so many countries in Christendom.

00:24:11.700 I think the question that is really the question of our age is, who are we?

00:24:16.380 Right?

00:24:16.560 What is a nation?

00:24:17.420 What is a people?

00:24:18.600 This is a slippery issue for a lot of people.

00:24:20.920 Many people are very scared to discuss it.

00:24:22.960 It triggers all kinds of accusations of racism and xenophobia and whatever, all that stuff

00:24:28.660 that if you still care about at this point, you're cooked.

00:24:31.360 Like, I don't, if in 2025, someone calls you a racist or a xenophobe or Islamophobe or

00:24:36.580 any of that, and it touches your soul in the slightest, you're not going to make it.

00:24:41.000 You got to do better.

00:24:42.960 That said, you know, the myth of multiculturalism has made it very difficult for a lot of people

00:24:50.100 to grasp the idea of what a nation is and should be.

00:24:53.440 And one of the things that you touched on there and one things that kind of broke out

00:24:57.140 as a debate a few months ago, actually, I think when, while I was at ARC, was the, I'm

00:25:04.120 trying to remember, it was some talk show or someone had, someone had asserted that England

00:25:08.540 was an actual, English was an actual ethnicity.

00:25:10.640 Like they were Englishmen and that was real.

00:25:12.860 And the, and, you know, everyone got very offended.

00:25:15.260 No, of course not.

00:25:16.160 There's, there's no, there's no ethnicity that is English.

00:25:19.180 That's, that's never existed.

00:25:20.660 You know, they, maybe they all just dropped from the sky.

00:25:23.280 I don't know.

00:25:23.900 And so, and so this idea that there is no ethnic, ethnic Englishmen or, you know, in the United

00:25:29.940 States, there is no American ethnos.

00:25:32.020 There is no nationhood, right?

00:25:33.900 There's only the, the, the cauldron of other nations and other beliefs that get mixed in 1.00

00:25:39.100 here.

00:25:39.720 I mean, that's even less true in England than it is in the United States.

00:25:42.720 And yet it still seems to have a large amount of power.

00:25:45.120 I wonder as somebody of mixed heritage, if you might have a particular perspective on

00:25:50.440 this identity, because so many people would look at someone like you and say, oh, well,

00:25:54.380 if we're starting to decide who's an Englishman and who's not, then you'll just get thrown

00:25:57.860 out.

00:25:58.120 And aren't you terrified?

00:25:58.900 And does that mean we should have no identity and no ethnos and no understanding?

00:26:03.580 And I think obviously that's false, but I wonder if you could put into your own words,

00:26:07.980 what you think about this idea of identity, English identity.

00:26:11.360 Yeah.

00:26:11.440 There's so much gaslighting around this.

00:26:13.100 The idea that there's never been an English people.

00:26:14.960 There's, there's no culture.

00:26:16.060 There's no ethnicity. 0.95

00:26:16.680 It's just a hot pot of, a melting pot of just different peoples from different places

00:26:22.780 and always has been, or, or we've, we've been a land of immigration, X, Y, and Z.

00:26:27.300 It's just a lie.

00:26:28.580 It's an outrageous lie.

00:26:29.940 The English people have always been, yes, there have been changes as there have been in

00:26:34.100 every single demographic of people.

00:26:36.620 I'm not arguing that, but I'm saying that there is a people that are based in a place.

00:26:41.300 So Great Britain, the landmass has always had a people there that are ethnically English

00:26:47.220 and they were from the South of that Island.

00:26:50.320 And, and it's, it's a different thing from being British. 0.57

00:26:53.220 It's different thing from being Welsh or Scottish.

00:26:55.900 The term British has come to incorporate all of that in the United Kingdom, which is a modern

00:27:00.860 concept.

00:27:01.960 The idea of that England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales come together to form a united

00:27:07.380 kingdom on the landmass of Great Britain.

00:27:10.300 And therefore anyone who moves to the United Kingdom can become a British, what used to 0.97

00:27:15.320 be a subject, which is now a citizen.

00:27:17.040 You can become a British citizen, but it doesn't make you ethnically English.

00:27:20.380 It doesn't make you ethnically Welsh or ethnically Scottish.

00:27:23.220 And also people will say, well, there can't be an ethnically English and an ethnically Scottish

00:27:27.240 because they share so many similarities.

00:27:28.900 Well, yes, we share a lot in common because of the continuum of the landmass, but they're

00:27:34.220 not the same.

00:27:34.980 There are differences between Scots and Englishmen and Welshmen.

00:27:37.520 And, and it's a shared, there is a shared heritage, absolutely.

00:27:41.600 But there's also a difference in the, in the ethnicity.

00:27:44.240 For example, you, you're far more likely to find ginger people in, in the other countries

00:27:49.480 than you would in England, which is generally a darker, darker haired people.

00:27:54.720 But to be white, to be Christian, to be born in the South of Great Britain in England, and

00:28:04.580 to speak the English language and to take on board English culture, these are things that

00:28:09.220 used to be easily definable as English.

00:28:11.800 And you're quite right that in the modern world, this is problematic for people because

00:28:14.880 they'll look at someone like me and say, well, you're mixed race.

00:28:17.520 You're like the most English person I know.

00:28:19.060 How could it be?

00:28:20.020 Surely we need to do away with these old categories.

00:28:21.760 We can't have race.

00:28:23.280 We can't have ethnicity. 0.96

00:28:24.920 Well, well, why?

00:28:26.320 If we don't protect what we know to be true, then we lose it.

00:28:29.060 And I don't want to lose the English ethnicity.

00:28:31.640 I think it's a very important thing because we're rooted in time.

00:28:34.200 We're rooted in place.

00:28:35.280 You know, geography matters.

00:28:37.660 So my personal ethnicity is that I'm half English, half Afro-Caribbean.

00:28:42.040 My mother's side of the family are English as far back as we can see.

00:28:44.660 They've been always rooted in that, in that land.

00:28:46.360 My father's side of the family came from the Caribbean, which I assume were originally

00:28:50.880 from northern Africa.

00:28:53.100 But the black side of my family doesn't override the white side any more than the white side

00:28:58.300 overrides the black side.

00:28:59.620 And so I have a dual heritage being mixed race.

00:29:02.580 And you can argue in favor or against multi-ethnicity, all you like.

00:29:06.180 But that is a very different thing to multiculturalism.

00:29:09.440 And a land has to have a predominant culture.

00:29:12.200 Otherwise, it will be just constant battling and warfare.

00:29:14.800 It will just fall apart.

00:29:15.720 There'll be no social cohesion.

00:29:17.560 You can argue in favor of having a minority culture, if you like.

00:29:20.880 You can see we can have ethnic minorities here.

00:29:22.900 We'd have cultural minorities here.

00:29:24.240 We'd have religious minorities here.

00:29:25.600 But you still have to have a predominant culture, a predominant ethnicity, and a predominant

00:29:29.760 faith.

00:29:30.480 And England has always been predominantly English, predominantly Christian, and predominantly

00:29:35.140 white.

00:29:35.980 And to argue against those things, I would say it's actually racist.

00:29:39.500 People like the former first minister of Scotland who say it's a problem that Scotland

00:29:44.360 has too many white people.

00:29:45.900 White, white, white. 0.98

00:29:47.240 This was an Asian man, a Mohammedan man, who was very aggressive and racist. 0.99

00:29:50.480 And it's like, well, why is that a problem? 0.87

00:29:51.920 Why would you live in a predominantly white country and expect people to look like you 1.00

00:29:55.600 if you're not white?

00:29:56.740 I wouldn't move to Japan and say, this is a problem.

00:29:59.460 They're predominantly Japanese.

00:30:00.460 Please, this is clearly racist.

00:30:02.060 That would be absurd.

00:30:03.240 That would be insanity on my part. 0.97

00:30:04.960 For some reason, we accept it in the West because too many white people are ashamed of 0.98

00:30:08.800 being white. 0.69

00:30:09.600 Too many English people are ashamed of being English. 0.98

00:30:11.360 Too many Christian people are ashamed of being Christian.

00:30:13.360 They've got to stop.

00:30:14.200 All of it has to stop.

00:30:15.380 And I'm not saying to be proud of those things either because pride is a sin.

00:30:19.640 And that can lead to white superiority.

00:30:22.060 And we certainly don't want Christian superiority because we know it's true. 1.00

00:30:25.900 And so we want to convert people to it.

00:30:27.180 You don't convert people to it by force or by pride.

00:30:30.140 And so we know these things because the scriptures tell us how to evangelize and how to disciple

00:30:33.980 through modesty and humility and through being a light to the nations.

00:30:39.180 And it's the same with all those things.

00:30:40.460 The English culture, I happen to feel, is one of the best cultures in the world.

00:30:44.180 The British Empire was the best empire in human history.

00:30:48.400 It spread Christianity in the English language around the world.

00:30:50.660 However, I'm not going to say tear down all other cultures, tear down all other empires,

00:30:55.840 all other societies.

00:30:56.600 Let them do what they like.

00:30:58.360 But if you come to my land, you take on board my values, my faith, my culture, or don't come.

00:31:05.300 Yeah.

00:31:05.460 I mean, you have to have some degree of chauvinism about your own culture for it to survive,

00:31:11.060 right?

00:31:11.340 If you do not have a preference for your own culture, then it will be ground down and destroyed, 0.98

00:31:17.940 as we have seen pretty much across the board.

00:31:19.960 And it's really important, I think, that you pointed out there that if you want assimilation, 0.89

00:31:24.640 if that's your real goal, if that's actually what you want people to do, then, of course,

00:31:28.640 you need a culture for them to assimilate, too.

00:31:31.560 There has to be something that they are reaching towards.

00:31:34.100 And that doesn't mean people who aren't of that thing are lesser.

00:31:37.220 It doesn't mean that they can't eventually join the society through generational contact,

00:31:43.160 intermarriage, the language, sharing the religion, all of these things.

00:31:47.780 As you point out, over time, no ethnicity is static.

00:31:51.260 No tradition is static.

00:31:52.640 All of these things, all living traditions and ethnicities are changing, because all living 1.00

00:31:58.380 things are changing.

00:32:00.340 And so this means that there will be some level of integration with the new.

00:32:04.300 That's always going to be true, no matter what you're doing.

00:32:07.000 Even the most wild ethno-nationalist needs to grasp this, that this is a real thing about

00:32:13.780 human nature.

00:32:14.660 And no civilization ever survives by completely trying to close itself off and freeze it in

00:32:20.900 place and never have anything change.

00:32:23.200 But that said, you have to understand that it is still assimilation to an idea, to a culture,

00:32:30.540 to a singular thing that is dominating.

00:32:32.900 And if you don't have that, then it's going to eventually start to crumble.

00:32:36.720 Now, one of the things that you said early on that I think was interesting is you pointed

00:32:40.920 out that because the Church of England dominates so much of the religious life of what is left

00:32:46.360 in the UK, it made it very difficult to do things outside of that church, which was now

00:32:52.640 being dominated by wokeness, which had been taken over by leftism.

00:32:56.360 A lot of people, I'm an evangelical Christian, I'm a Southern Baptist, and that's the tradition

00:33:02.160 of my people.

00:33:02.980 I tell people I'm evangelical for the most Catholic reason possible, because it's the

00:33:07.000 faith of my father and my father's father and his father before him.

00:33:10.400 But one of the things that is an argument that I usually hear from Catholics or from Eastern

00:33:19.260 Orthodox Christians is that it's the continuity of the church, it's the continuity of the tradition,

00:33:24.240 it's the establishment of the church.

00:33:27.360 And I'm not someone who is reflexively against the establishment of a state church.

00:33:34.060 I know that makes me a bad evangelical.

00:33:35.400 But that said, I don't have a knee-jerk reaction to that existence.

00:33:40.520 But I do have to say, when we look at what has happened with the Church of England, and

00:33:46.680 to some degree with the Catholic Church, I'm not sure that the arguments that my more

00:33:51.820 Orthodox friends make about the institution protecting the doctrine and the beliefs of the

00:33:58.140 church is holding necessarily.

00:34:00.020 I know a lot of more Southern Baptists who may not have, you know, the firmest grasp of

00:34:05.680 Orthodoxy, but are socially and biblically more conservative than people in a Church of

00:34:11.020 England who, theoretically, were guarded by that institution.

00:34:14.760 I'm not sure I buy that argument.

00:34:16.020 England was a Christian country for a thousand years.

00:34:18.940 Most of the Catholic countries around Europe have been Catholic for a thousand years or more.

00:34:23.320 Having a state church benefited countries far more than not having a state church.

00:34:29.900 At the moment, France gave up its religion.

00:34:32.780 It lost it as a nation.

00:34:34.920 America is very, very new, a very modern experiment.

00:34:38.000 And even in that short period of time, we've seen that, you know, when the states, when the

00:34:42.160 colonies had their own churches, established churches, and the first states had their established

00:34:47.480 churches, the faith was more predominant than it is now when it's a laissez-faire approach

00:34:51.600 if everyone can be anything and whatever.

00:34:53.880 Not that there was a forced approach, but once the state had an established church, it

00:34:57.780 was predominant, and that has an impact.

00:35:00.840 The problem at the moment is that UK, in particular, the Church of England has lost the faith.

00:35:06.600 So even though it is the established church, it's not really a church.

00:35:09.900 It's just, I don't know, some kind of members club at this point.

00:35:13.520 I mentioned they've got a trans archdeacon. 0.81

00:35:15.420 They've got openly homosexual priests. 0.78

00:35:18.120 They've got women bishops, you know, women leaders, shepherds. 1.00

00:35:21.600 It's clearly falling apart.

00:35:23.180 They embrace divorce.

00:35:24.620 They have no solid foundation on the Christian teachings in terms of abortion or contraception.

00:35:31.660 And so, of course, it's falling apart.

00:35:33.080 But it's not because it's an established church.

00:35:34.620 It's because it's no longer a church, I would say.

00:35:36.740 Having an established church that is solid, that has sound teaching, and is an orthodox,

00:35:41.380 small O, in Catholic, small C, is far more beneficial to a people than to not have a state church.

00:35:47.620 Fair enough.

00:35:48.360 Like I said, I'm still on the fence on that one.

00:35:50.440 But, you know, that already puts me well outside of most evangelicals.

00:35:54.320 So, you know, that said, another thing that you mentioned earlier that I know you've caught

00:36:00.640 some flack for is pointing out that the need to insert Judeo-Christian into this language.

00:36:08.300 We hear this all the time as, you know, many times at the ARC conferences, very rarely

00:36:13.140 Christianity alone is Judeo-Christian values. 0.52

00:36:16.820 And, you know, the need to do that seems very strange.

00:36:21.060 In a way, again, it feels like we're abstracting the Christian values away from Christianity,

00:36:26.660 right?

00:36:26.880 So abstract that we compare another religion to them, right?

00:36:30.100 Now, obviously, there's a lineage there.

00:36:31.960 Many, you know, Christianity came out of Judaism, but they are pretty decisively different religions.

00:36:37.940 If I walked up to Ben Shapiro and said, hey, you're basically a Christian, I got a feeling

00:36:41.740 he wouldn't take that particularly well, nor should he, understandably, that's not his

00:36:46.560 faith.

00:36:47.200 And yet, for some reason, we're told on a pretty regular basis, well, this is just the

00:36:51.100 same thing.

00:36:51.620 Like, they're very different things when it comes to worship or this kind of thing.

00:36:54.940 But when it comes to value systems, it's basically exactly the same thing.

00:36:58.360 And I'm not sure how that can be true.

00:37:00.280 Jesus taught a lot of stuff, and most of it wasn't in the Old Testament.

00:37:05.040 I think it was the fulfillment of the Old Testament, but it's not things that Old Testament

00:37:10.140 Jews were believing about the Bible at that time or today.

00:37:13.600 And so, I guess, what do you think about this usage of Judeo-Christian?

00:37:17.680 Why is it so prominent across conservative movements, both in the United States and in

00:37:21.820 England?

00:37:22.600 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:37:23.440 My conservative Jewish friends have a problem with it as much as I do as a conservative

00:37:27.120 Christian.

00:37:27.600 Right, because it's diluting both faiths into one. 0.99

00:37:31.280 We don't find the Mohammedans saying Judeo-Christian Islam, because, of course, they don't.

00:37:36.000 Even though Islam comes from Christian roots, I would say it's a Catholic heresy, but they 1.00

00:37:40.820 acknowledge the people, Jesus and Mary and Joseph, they'd acknowledge these people, but 0.97

00:37:47.720 they wouldn't say, our faith is Christian Islam, because it's a ridiculous argument.

00:37:51.360 It's a separate faith.

00:37:52.760 Christian faith is a separate faith to the modern Jewish faith.

00:37:56.420 It is a fulfillment of the old Jewish faith.

00:37:59.200 And you're absolutely right in that Jesus taught a lot of things that are not in the

00:38:02.540 Old Testament.

00:38:03.380 And actually, he took things further.

00:38:04.800 He'd say things like, you know, to not commit adultery is no longer the limit.

00:38:10.200 You have to no longer think about not committing adultery.

00:38:12.640 You know, he took it from crime to thought crime, to put it into modern context.

00:38:16.420 He taught us that sin is internal, not just external.

00:38:20.880 It's not legalistic.

00:38:21.960 It's not the law.

00:38:22.900 It's not the letter of the law.

00:38:23.860 It's the spirit of the law.

00:38:24.960 That was the divorce from Judaism into Christianity. 0.96

00:38:28.160 It was about what's in your heart, not just what you act.

00:38:31.540 And so it is a separate faith.

00:38:33.980 There's a lot of similarities.

00:38:34.940 Of course there are, because we took on board much of the Pentateuch.

00:38:42.180 We took on board much of the Old Testament writings, because God revealed himself through

00:38:48.020 them.

00:38:48.260 But then he continued the revelation.

00:38:50.000 And the New Testament is the fulfillment of that revelation.

00:38:53.080 And so we can't have part of it without the whole thing.

00:38:55.460 And people often say to me, well, you know, when you say Jewish Christianity, it's just

00:38:58.980 acknowledging the Old Testament.

00:39:00.860 Well, we don't need an acknowledgement, because we understand that the Christian Bible is the

00:39:04.960 Old Testament and the New Testament.

00:39:06.500 It's the fullness of it.

00:39:08.080 We don't need to add a caveat to say, oh, we also include the old bit, which came from

00:39:12.020 X, Y, and Z.

00:39:13.060 It's a misnomer that is a very modern idea that's part of the post-war consensus that said

00:39:18.700 that the Christian church has been too harsh towards modern Jews, because obviously it's 1.00

00:39:23.980 always been the teaching that Jews killed Christ and rejected Christ.

00:39:28.200 The Jews that accepted Christ are Christians, Christ followers.

00:39:32.860 And so, and they were the majority, I believe.

00:39:35.380 And the Gentiles that followed Christ are also Christians.

00:39:38.480 So the Jews and the Gentiles are no longer Jews and Gentiles. 0.74

00:39:40.720 They're now Christians.

00:39:41.840 The modern day Jews are people that reject Christ. 1.00

00:39:44.180 So it's a different belief set to the Jews that embraced the Messiah.

00:39:48.940 But people want to conflate all this.

00:39:51.020 And a lot of it comes down to just bad theology.

00:39:53.460 That this dispensationalism that's very rife in America, and this idea that Israel should 1.00

00:39:58.860 be put on some kind of pedestal because the modern nation of Israel, which was founded

00:40:02.160 in 1948 by my country, is somehow the Israel of the Bible, where the Israel of the Bible

00:40:08.740 is to be a light to the nations.

00:40:10.640 It's the Israel of the Bible is to lead people to Christ.

00:40:14.100 The Israel of the Bible is the church. 0.56

00:40:16.200 The church is the spiritual Israel, the new Israel.

00:40:18.400 But it's our job as Christians to be a light in the world, to lead people to the true

00:40:22.200 light, which is Jesus Christ.

00:40:24.160 And that's it.

00:40:25.280 That's the job of Israel. 1.00

00:40:26.660 And so people who say, actually, no, no, that modern nation of Israel is the Israel that

00:40:30.300 we need to, we need to pretty much, they worship it.

00:40:33.680 They idolize it above everything else, above every other nation, above every other people.

00:40:37.720 That is, well, that's sinful, that's idolatry, that's a grave error, and people need to be

00:40:41.720 made aware of it.

00:40:42.600 And they think it's anti-Semitism to raise that issue.

00:40:46.580 And there's a stark difference between hating a demographic and saying you shouldn't worship

00:40:50.480 that demographic.

00:40:52.020 Yeah, which unfortunately is America's only understanding of not hating a demographic.

00:40:57.440 The only other option seems to be to worship it on a regular basis.

00:41:01.560 So we're pre-taping this.

00:41:05.020 We're doing this on Good Friday.

00:41:06.260 I should have said that earlier, if you're doing super chats, sorry, I can't answer them.

00:41:10.860 We can't see them right now, but thank you very much for that.

00:41:14.740 But I would be remiss if I didn't ask a man of the cloth on this day of all days, what

00:41:20.560 should we be contemplating?

00:41:22.660 What should we be remembering?

00:41:24.220 What should we be focusing on?

00:41:25.960 And what should we be praying for, both for ourselves, our families, and importantly,

00:41:30.340 in this context, our nations that God will do for us and what we should be grateful

00:41:34.640 for?

00:41:34.960 Yeah, that's a good question.

00:41:36.560 So traditionally, on Good Friday, we fast and we abstain.

00:41:40.480 And so we put ourselves in a state of penance while we reflect on the death and the crucifixion

00:41:48.120 of Jesus Christ who gave himself for us.

00:41:50.840 And what does that mean to die for us?

00:41:53.040 Because we are so wretched, because we are so sinful that we have nothing of our own to

00:41:57.780 offer.

00:41:58.120 And so God offers himself to us.

00:42:00.540 He offers us his only begotten son.

00:42:03.100 And so it's the greatest sacrifice.

00:42:05.780 It's the greatest demonstration of love.

00:42:07.780 And so we can reflect on that in two parts.

00:42:10.060 One part is we are so sinful.

00:42:12.860 And having had our Lord sacrifice himself for us, we owe him a debt of gratitude.

00:42:18.280 We owe him to be less sinful, to strive towards holiness, to strive towards goodness.

00:42:22.380 And on the other hand, he demonstrates a true love to us.

00:42:26.060 And so we need to model that love.

00:42:27.800 We need to remember that love isn't what I feel.

00:42:30.000 It's not emotion.

00:42:30.920 It's not a desire.

00:42:31.740 It's not a passion.

00:42:32.420 It's not lust.

00:42:33.420 And it's not a want or a need.

00:42:35.860 It's a willing the good of the other.

00:42:37.560 It's a sacrificial love.

00:42:39.040 It's a giving of ourselves.

00:42:40.680 And Christ gave himself for us.

00:42:42.320 So we should be giving ourselves to him and for him and for each other, to each other.

00:42:46.980 And that's how we can love each other, by truly laying down our lives for the people

00:42:51.920 around us.

00:42:52.660 And that might mean telling a loved one the truth.

00:42:55.820 If they say, I'm now a boy and I was a girl, it might mean helping feed a homeless

00:43:02.580 person, put clothes on someone's back.

00:43:04.680 It might mean giving someone the time of day and listening to their troubles.

00:43:08.440 It could be a whole host of things, but it's a giving of ourselves to someone else.

00:43:14.300 It's not taking.

00:43:15.480 And that's, I think, one of the most important messages we can hear in modern life when we

00:43:19.440 think, what can I get out of this?

00:43:21.240 I don't feel loved.

00:43:22.380 I don't feel X.

00:43:23.420 It doesn't matter what you feel.

00:43:25.000 What does the other person feel?

00:43:26.740 Because Christ wasn't worried about what he felt when he was hung on that cross for us.

00:43:31.940 And through doing that, through that grave act, that barbaric act, he defeated death.

00:43:38.440 He conquered sin.

00:43:39.980 And he offers us eternal life.

00:43:41.900 I mean, we get eternal life either way.

00:43:44.420 Either an eternal life away from him or an eternal life in him, with him.

00:43:49.800 And so it's up to us to choose.

00:43:51.780 And so on this day every year, we should be reflecting of, am I doing everything I can

00:43:55.700 to choose him?

00:43:57.120 Because what's the alternative?

00:43:58.780 And again, in modern society, we don't like to talk about the alternative.

00:44:01.840 We barely talk about sin, never mind the consequences of sin, which is eternal damnation.

00:44:06.340 To live in a state of sin is to live in a state apart from God.

00:44:09.480 To live apart from God is evil.

00:44:11.020 To be evil is to live in hell.

00:44:12.640 To live in hell is that eternal fire and damnation, that weeping and gnashing of teeth.

00:44:17.980 Eternal.

00:44:19.240 Imagine going through something difficult for a moment.

00:44:23.100 Now multiply that moment by months, by years, by eternity.

00:44:26.820 It's an impossibility to conceive.

00:44:28.560 And so we should be doing all we can in this short time that we have on earth to head towards

00:44:32.700 Jesus Christ.

00:44:33.620 To love him, to love our neighbor, and to repent of our sins.

00:44:37.820 Strive towards goodness.

00:44:39.260 Strive towards holiness.

00:44:40.420 We may never attain it.

00:44:42.000 And he doesn't say it will be easy.

00:44:43.280 He doesn't say we'll get there.

00:44:44.240 But as long as we're on that journey, that upward journey, then we're not on the downward

00:44:48.040 journey.

00:44:48.620 And that's what matters.

00:44:49.620 Because he wants us to be with him.

00:44:51.100 Because he loves us.

00:44:52.420 And he wants us to love him back.

00:44:54.800 The most important message on one of the most important days in history.

00:44:58.940 All right, guys.

00:44:59.760 We're going to go ahead and wrap this up.

00:45:01.920 Again, sorry, can't read any of the super chats today.

00:45:05.360 But before we head out, Calvin, if people want to follow your work, they want to see what

00:45:09.920 you're doing, they want to know what's going on.

00:45:11.580 Is there anything that you want to make them aware of?

00:45:14.240 CalvinRobinson.com is probably the best place to go.

00:45:17.760 And I'm Calvin Robinson on most of the social media networks, including X.

00:45:22.360 Excellent.

00:45:22.860 All right, guys.

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00:46:01.820 Have a blessed Easter.

00:46:03.160 And as always, I will talk to you next time.

The Auron MacIntyre Show - April 23, 2025

Can Christianity Revive the UK？｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson ｜ 4⧸23⧸25

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - April 23, 2025

Can Christianity Revive the UK？ ｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson ｜ 4⧸23⧸25

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Can Christianity Revive the UK？｜ Guest： Calvin Robinson ｜ 4⧸23⧸25