The Auron MacIntyre Show - April 29, 2024


Conservatives Must REJECT Ideology ｜ 4⧸29⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 9 minutes

Words per Minute

165.08673

Word Count

11,459

Sentence Count

848

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

In this episode, Oren McIntyre talks about the growing anti-Americanism on college campuses and what the right should be doing about it. He also talks about why it s so important to stick to the conservative ideology.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?
00:00:32.120 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.
00:00:34.020 I am Oren McIntyre.
00:00:36.300 So the GOP, the right, you gotta love it.
00:00:39.120 They're addicted to losing.
00:00:40.760 They've been handed possibly one of the greatest gifts
00:00:44.160 that anyone could ever receive in an election year.
00:00:47.640 A civil war amongst their leftist opponents.
00:00:51.520 Right down a critical fault line inside their coalition.
00:00:55.260 But being the GOP, of course, they have to lose.
00:00:59.420 They want to lose.
00:01:00.300 They can't stop themselves from losing.
00:01:03.200 They're addicted to it.
00:01:04.640 And so they need to step in.
00:01:06.340 They need to ride to the rescue of the left and save them from the showdown that is occurring
00:01:11.840 on college campuses.
00:01:13.840 I want to go ahead and get into everything that has happened with the college protests and
00:01:20.080 why the right seems so determined to screw this up, what they should be doing instead.
00:01:25.800 I also want to go ahead and look at a video from a conservative commentator talking about
00:01:32.180 the conservative ideology, how important it is to stick to the conservative ideology.
00:01:37.360 And I want to delve into why this is such a problem.
00:01:40.700 Why, again, this is the addiction to losing that the right seems to have showing its face.
00:01:47.140 Why actual conservatism, real conservatism is about focusing on the good of the people and
00:01:53.340 understanding their general welfare on a day-to-day basis while connecting it to tradition rather
00:02:00.460 than going ahead and trying to make some kind of religion out of a set of political ideological
00:02:06.700 assumptions.
00:02:07.580 So I'm going to get into all that today, guys.
00:02:10.400 But before we do, let me tell you about ISI.
00:02:13.760 Universities today aren't just neglecting real education.
00:02:16.740 They're actively undermining it.
00:02:18.100 And we can't let them get away with it.
00:02:19.760 America was made for an educated and engaged citizenry.
00:02:23.320 The Intercollegiate Studies Institute is here to help.
00:02:26.120 ISI offers programs and opportunities for conservative students across the country.
00:02:31.300 ISI understands that conservatives and right-of-center students feel isolated on college campuses
00:02:36.380 and that you're often fighting for your own reputation, dignity, and future.
00:02:41.280 Through ISI, you can learn about what Russell Kirk called the permanent things, the philosophical
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00:02:50.400 ISI offers many opportunities to jumpstart your career.
00:02:53.520 They have fellowships at some of the nation's top conservative publications like National Review,
00:02:57.860 The American Conservative, and The College Thinker.
00:03:00.580 If you're a graduate student, ISI offers funding opportunities to sponsor the next great
00:03:04.580 generation of college professors.
00:03:06.380 Through ISI, you can work with conservative thinkers who are making a difference.
00:03:10.520 Thinkers like Chris Ruffo, who currently has an ISI researcher helping him with his book.
00:03:15.540 But perhaps most importantly, ISI offers college students a community of people that can help
00:03:20.080 them grow.
00:03:20.960 If you're a college student, ISI can help you start a student organization or student newspaper
00:03:25.760 or meet other like-minded students at their various conferences and events.
00:03:30.460 ISI is here to educate the next generation of great Americans.
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00:03:36.920 That's ISI.org.
00:03:38.680 All right, so like many of you already know, there have been a number of protests raging
00:03:45.900 across many college campuses in the United States over the last week or so.
00:03:51.000 They've escalated from kind of your rent-of-the-mill protest to the full-on leftist Antifa-style
00:03:57.780 occupation.
00:03:58.680 It seems like we go through these cycles every, you know, seven to ten years where there has
00:04:04.100 to be this wave of complete domination on these campuses.
00:04:08.680 Kind of a leftist vanguard gets out of control and deploys very similar tactics over and over
00:04:13.820 again.
00:04:14.160 We saw these, of course, with the rise of wokeness on college campuses, the social justice
00:04:19.080 movement, as it was called back then.
00:04:21.440 And we're seeing another wave now, and this wave is connected to Palestine and Israel.
00:04:28.080 They have kind of the showdown in Gaza between these two.
00:04:31.060 Unfortunately, we have this policy of both constantly importing people from foreign countries
00:04:36.980 and involving ourselves in the conflicts of foreign countries, which means that we basically
00:04:42.700 are always dealing with the ancient blood feuds between, you know, kind of tribes across
00:04:49.540 the entire world.
00:04:50.760 We're just importing that into the United States.
00:04:53.660 And so we constantly have to put up with this stuff because we've kind of chosen or, you
00:04:58.720 know, it's been forced upon us a set of policies that leads to this conflict inside our borders,
00:05:04.680 not just outside of our borders.
00:05:07.100 The good news, if you can call it that, is that this showdown is kind of a leftist civil war.
00:05:15.940 It's a showdown between two factions of the left that fundamentally disagree on most things
00:05:21.820 and are only really bound into their coalition because their general target is kind of the average
00:05:28.420 Republican middle-class white voter.
00:05:30.640 Like, outside of that, these two factions of the left don't have a lot in common.
00:05:35.540 You have the mainstream left, and the mainstream left kind of has a legacy loyalty to the state
00:05:42.140 of Israel.
00:05:42.680 There's a lot of money, influence, other things tied to this that's built into their
00:05:46.800 establishment.
00:05:48.000 And so they tend to side with Israel in many things.
00:05:51.840 And then you have the vanguard left.
00:05:53.440 Now, the vanguard left is controlled by woke ideology.
00:05:57.140 They're controlled by an obsession with the anti-colonial mindset.
00:06:01.940 They're very much in kind of into this third worldism.
00:06:05.360 And so because of that, they tend to actually be vocally against Israel.
00:06:09.700 Now, interestingly, I think increasingly more of the mainstream left actually agrees with
00:06:17.420 that.
00:06:17.880 I think more of them want to be with the vanguard.
00:06:21.200 But they still have a lot of their power, the mechanisms of power, the way they're set
00:06:25.000 up inside the left and institutions and the United States in general make it very difficult
00:06:30.000 for them to kind of push into that direction.
00:06:32.880 And so what you're seeing is that there's a civil war between these two factions.
00:06:38.140 And the beautiful thing is it's occurring on college campuses.
00:06:42.460 Now, normally, when there's some kind of showdown, the left is kind of chimping out over something.
00:06:48.520 It's innocent people.
00:06:50.240 It's right-wing business owners, conservatives living in their towns.
00:06:54.740 They're the ones that get hurt.
00:06:55.940 They're the ones who have to pay the price.
00:06:57.940 But this conflict is mostly confined to college campuses, which is just kind of perfect because
00:07:05.260 college campuses are the most left-wing places imaginable.
00:07:09.520 They're the ones radicalizing people.
00:07:11.500 They're the ones pushing a lot of toxic nonsense into the mind of the average student.
00:07:17.140 And so the fact that this is basically occurring on enemy territory should be great for the right,
00:07:24.080 if you have an election season, and during this election season, you're seeing these unhinged people
00:07:30.280 celebrating and attacking each other and screaming death to each other, like all kinds of extremist behavior.
00:07:36.600 Again, YouTube, to be clear, this is what they are saying, that one I'm saying.
00:07:40.040 And so they are attacking each other constantly.
00:07:42.880 This is amazing, right?
00:07:44.340 Like if these are your opponents, and during an election year, they are squaring off in this manner
00:07:49.800 on college campuses, there really could not be a better thing for you, right?
00:07:54.660 Because the average American parent who is sending their child to these campuses
00:08:00.920 is really just doing that so that they can get the credential they need to get a job anywhere.
00:08:06.400 And the average American has been abused by this system.
00:08:10.020 The American college system is a failure.
00:08:13.040 It usually fails to educate kids in anything but leftist ideology.
00:08:18.380 It doesn't prepare them for jobs.
00:08:20.180 It takes all of their money.
00:08:21.760 It makes it impossible for them to have a home or start a family or anything.
00:08:26.900 As they get into the workplace, they end up in debt slavery.
00:08:30.900 Like this is a disaster for the average person who just wants to send their kid to college
00:08:35.280 thinking that they're going to get an education.
00:08:37.320 And now they're watching that education get shut down, destroyed by radical people.
00:08:42.500 They don't like it.
00:08:43.400 This is, and the left can't do anything about it because the people involved are spouting
00:08:48.960 leftist ideology.
00:08:50.160 This is the kind of ideology that even many on the mainstream left have embraced.
00:08:55.440 They were already parroting this anti-colonial ideology.
00:08:59.560 And so the fact that basically the vanguard of the left has moved Israel and Jews in general
00:09:05.540 into this kind of white oppressor basket means that all of a sudden the left has to deal
00:09:11.200 with a very dangerous kind of internecine warfare in their coalition.
00:09:17.900 So this should be the best thing that could possibly happen to the right.
00:09:21.400 However, the right is like, well, we got to get in there because, you know, law and order
00:09:25.660 and we got to, you know, we got to, we got to save them from this situation, right?
00:09:29.440 We got to rush in and save everybody involved.
00:09:32.340 We can't have, you know, anti-Semitism or whatever on our campuses.
00:09:35.740 And so we have to shut down.
00:09:37.580 Nobody can criticize Israel, you know, whatever.
00:09:39.900 And so they, we have to rush in and stop this.
00:09:42.400 And so what we've seen is the deployment of police in some of these situations.
00:09:47.720 And let me play you some footage from Ohio state.
00:09:50.300 Media, media, media, media, media, media, media, media, all right.
00:10:12.460 So a couple of thoughts watching this here.
00:10:14.520 First, I would just like to remind everybody, and this should actually be the first takeaway.
00:10:20.380 This should be the first thing that the right should be pushing.
00:10:23.980 If the right were a real opposition, if conservatives, the GOP were actual an opposition party,
00:10:29.320 they really cared about the country.
00:10:31.060 They actually cared about fighting for the well-being of the people who vote for them.
00:10:35.400 The very first thing they would point out is that clearly you can actually just send the
00:10:40.920 police to stop riots.
00:10:42.160 And I remember in 2020, when we weren't allowed to do that, when the New York Times was firing
00:10:49.840 their editor for running an editorial from a GOP politician saying, actually, we should
00:10:54.860 just use the National Guard to stop riots.
00:10:58.060 I was told that it's impossible.
00:10:59.660 There's no way you can assert law and order.
00:11:01.580 And to be really clear, this is, of course, a massive failure by Trump during his presidency.
00:11:06.020 So don't let him off the hook here at all.
00:11:07.860 But the GOP is all of a sudden very in favor of deploying the police, deploying the National
00:11:15.280 Guard, stopping riots, stopping protests.
00:11:18.720 And these riots, while there is some bad actors, to be very clear, there are some people who
00:11:24.200 are making death threats.
00:11:25.940 There are some people who are threatening people and intimidating people.
00:11:30.120 This is nothing compared to the riots of 2020.
00:11:34.040 This isn't even close.
00:11:35.740 OK, in 2020, they were burning buildings down.
00:11:38.640 They were burning down businesses.
00:11:40.780 Even some churches started to be set on fire.
00:11:43.700 They were attacking people.
00:11:45.260 People die in these events.
00:11:47.760 OK, and that was in the middle of what was supposed to be a massive pandemic that, you know,
00:11:51.860 anyone going outside could kill us all.
00:11:53.980 So that was just crap.
00:11:56.440 Every bit of it was just complete crap from beginning to end.
00:12:01.040 They could have deployed police.
00:12:02.900 They could have deployed the National Guard.
00:12:04.680 They could have put an end to the riots.
00:12:06.840 And you need to understand that what this video shows you is that both parties, left and
00:12:13.960 right, wanted your neighborhood to burn.
00:12:19.420 They wanted the violence.
00:12:21.720 They wanted the intimidation.
00:12:23.200 They wanted to unleash the narco tyranny.
00:12:26.520 They could have stopped it.
00:12:27.940 We can see they have the ability to stop it.
00:12:30.540 They just don't care.
00:12:32.840 Or more importantly, they do care and they want to punish you.
00:12:36.400 OK, so we need to stop any narratives about how the, you know, the, you know, this violence
00:12:42.440 couldn't be controlled.
00:12:43.500 The protests can't be put down.
00:12:46.060 They can't be stopped.
00:12:47.100 Very clearly, they can't.
00:12:48.260 When the right people are in trouble, when the right things have been threatened, when
00:12:54.040 the right taboos have been crossed, when protected groups that are, you know, actually cared for
00:12:59.520 in this country get threatened, we can break out the police.
00:13:03.020 We can break out the National Guard.
00:13:04.360 Force can be deployed.
00:13:05.560 We can shut this stuff down right away.
00:13:08.500 OK, so the first takeaway from this footage should be really your incredible anger at
00:13:14.220 the fact that your politicians lied to you, that they betrayed you, that they allowed this
00:13:19.240 stuff to happen in 2020, that they did not care.
00:13:22.140 And as soon as they feel like they need to, they can flip the switch, drop the hammer and
00:13:27.680 get law and order right back when they want it.
00:13:30.580 Right.
00:13:30.920 All right.
00:13:31.380 So that said, the second thing we need to take away from this footage is, look, I get
00:13:36.620 that this is cathartic for some people.
00:13:39.240 Right.
00:13:39.420 You see the police come in.
00:13:40.700 You see these people who, you know, hate you.
00:13:43.440 Right.
00:13:44.040 There's this there's this, you know, many people who have problems with this room and
00:13:48.420 people who are angry about it.
00:13:50.240 But, you know, they're like, oh, well, I'm going to side with pro-Palestinian protesters.
00:13:54.440 These people hate you, too.
00:13:55.700 OK, they hate you.
00:13:57.100 All right.
00:13:57.280 Don't don't don't fool yourself.
00:13:58.720 OK, don't don't don't you don't need to be on a side.
00:14:01.420 You don't need to pick a side in the left wing civil war.
00:14:04.640 They both hate you.
00:14:06.060 OK, you know, you don't need to suddenly support violent third worldism that that hates you
00:14:11.760 for some reason like that.
00:14:13.480 That's not necessary either.
00:14:14.720 You really can just stand back and let them fight.
00:14:17.520 Right.
00:14:17.900 You can just do the meme.
00:14:18.820 Just let the kaiju go at it.
00:14:20.860 Right.
00:14:21.060 Let let let the two of them battle it out.
00:14:23.600 But I so I understand that to some degree, this is cathartic to kind of watch this get
00:14:29.980 involved, you know, to watch these protesters.
00:14:32.360 You've been waiting forever.
00:14:33.540 You watch the protests in 2020.
00:14:35.840 You know, you see these people there.
00:14:37.340 They're taking down American flags and raising Palestinian flags on the campuses of places
00:14:42.720 like Harvard.
00:14:43.440 I get that this is in some way cathartic for you, but you need to understand these people
00:14:48.400 hate you.
00:14:49.220 And more importantly, more importantly, the involvement of the police and other things
00:14:56.600 that are coded right wing.
00:14:58.300 gets the left off the hook.
00:15:01.460 It takes them off the hook because this is their problem.
00:15:05.540 This is Joe Biden's problem.
00:15:07.260 I mean, you know, as much as anything's Joe Biden's problem.
00:15:09.460 The main problem for Joe Biden is he doesn't know where he is.
00:15:11.420 But this is the left's problem.
00:15:14.340 OK, this is this is whoever's running the left's problem, because what they have is a showdown
00:15:19.800 between their factions and if the right comes in and swoops in and saves them, it will have
00:15:25.960 been the biggest case of political malpractice in history, because when the police come in,
00:15:34.640 when other things that are coded as right wing come in and break this stuff up, guess what
00:15:39.060 happens?
00:15:39.760 The left gets to save its face.
00:15:41.680 It gets to point at the right and say, look, they're the ones who are deploying violence.
00:15:46.180 It's see the the mainstream left can be like, oh, well, we knew that we things had gone
00:15:50.800 too far, but we weren't going to send in the police.
00:15:53.400 We weren't going to break things up.
00:15:55.380 You know, we we abhor any violence or anything like that.
00:15:58.280 They're still the racists.
00:15:59.540 They're still the sexist, whatever.
00:16:01.200 That's what they want to do.
00:16:02.680 They want to maintain their friend enemy distinction.
00:16:06.000 They don't want to have to actually work through the problems of their coalition because they
00:16:10.440 know those problems are unsolvable.
00:16:13.300 And so instead, they want to blame the right.
00:16:16.180 And you cannot ride to these people's rescue.
00:16:19.900 Conservative GOP governors, red state governors, hear me on this.
00:16:26.100 I know many of you, ah, we got it.
00:16:28.080 No, no.
00:16:30.100 Let it play out.
00:16:32.520 Let them fight.
00:16:33.920 Now, red state governors should maintain order, right?
00:16:37.660 Violence is illegal.
00:16:39.420 You should not allow it.
00:16:40.960 You should not allow that on the campus.
00:16:43.980 It is still your job to protect your constituents.
00:16:47.160 But to be really clear, anti-Semitism, while not good, is not ethnic hatred of any kind,
00:16:52.860 is not good.
00:16:53.900 It's not illegal.
00:16:55.420 It's free speech.
00:16:57.420 And criticizing Israel is certainly free speech.
00:17:01.160 And these people have absolutely their right.
00:17:03.980 And to your political advantage, they also have the willingness to battle each other over
00:17:09.540 this and you should let them, okay?
00:17:12.180 You should absolutely let them.
00:17:13.920 You should not be sending in the police.
00:17:15.840 You should not be sending in anyone else to go break this up for them.
00:17:20.060 Do not solve this problem for them.
00:17:22.060 Let them hash it out because they can't.
00:17:24.760 They can't do it.
00:17:25.640 And the longer this goes on and the more it becomes clear what's happening, the worse
00:17:31.500 this gets for the left, okay?
00:17:33.380 This is exactly what they did not want this year, which was already going to be a very
00:17:38.040 difficult situation for them.
00:17:40.180 So this is absolutely to the right's advantage and you should not involve yourself.
00:17:44.620 I want to play a video of some frat guys in Arizona because I want you to understand what
00:17:49.660 the left wants to happen here.
00:17:51.180 Listen to what they're saying in this video.
00:17:53.960 All right, so you've got these frat guys who come over and help the police clear out
00:18:20.600 this, you know, this encampment.
00:18:23.480 It is, I believe, illegal.
00:18:24.860 So they are following the law and breaking it up.
00:18:28.500 But see what's happening here, right?
00:18:30.940 Oh, she says, oh, the white frat guys are doing this.
00:18:34.320 This is the white frat guys working with the police.
00:18:37.800 So these guys, and again, this is not their fault.
00:18:40.820 They're just trying to help out.
00:18:41.920 I'm not, you know, they're, they're, I'm not blaming them at all.
00:18:45.220 They're just trying to get this garbage off of their college campus.
00:18:49.720 It's there to them.
00:18:51.160 It's a place that they, you know, feel at home.
00:18:53.560 They don't want to see this.
00:18:54.440 I totally understand.
00:18:55.700 But what this allows the left to do is unify, right?
00:19:00.240 Unify behind these symbols.
00:19:03.160 Oh, it's the white frat guys who are doing this.
00:19:06.500 Oh, it's the police.
00:19:07.640 It's the, you know, they're the ones doing.
00:19:09.660 It's not other people inside my coalition that I have a fundamental disagreement with, but I don't want to address because it's way too messy.
00:19:18.560 And we're definitely not going to talk about why they actually oppose each other, why they actually hate each other.
00:19:24.420 The messy reality of the leftist coalition and the, the, the tensions that are brought about by the conflict in Gaza.
00:19:34.220 They don't want to talk about that.
00:19:35.980 They don't want to deal with that.
00:19:37.300 So instead they want to unite behind the thing that always unites the left, right?
00:19:42.220 Patriot of these white frat guys, get rid of them.
00:19:45.220 They're the problem.
00:19:46.100 So you want to keep situations like this from occurring.
00:19:50.240 Okay.
00:19:51.620 Because the left are eating themselves.
00:19:55.260 They are destroying themselves.
00:19:56.920 They are exposing serious contradictions inside their ideology that are unsustainable.
00:20:03.640 And you do not want to give them a unifying enemy.
00:20:07.560 Can't do that.
00:20:08.840 Because if you do, it's a free escape from their problem.
00:20:13.320 It's a free escape.
00:20:14.100 And not only that, they can parlay that into election year issues of police brutality and, you know, the, the racial conflict.
00:20:23.180 But, but, you know, obviously they're having a racial conflict to a degree on the campuses already, but they don't want to focus on that one.
00:20:29.900 They don't want to, that's not the kind of racial conflict that they can use for their advantage.
00:20:33.680 In fact, that racial conflict actually reveals something very dangerous about the left-wing coalition and what it's going to do to this country and the way it's going to tear.
00:20:43.260 They don't want to tear everything apart.
00:20:44.760 So they don't want to show you that racial conflict.
00:20:48.520 They want to, they want to exacerbate their old reliable, right?
00:20:52.340 And so you don't want to give them the excuse.
00:20:55.600 You don't want to give them the excuse.
00:20:57.900 Instead, here's what the right should be doing.
00:21:01.020 Here's how they should be reframing this.
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00:21:39.480 What they would be doing right now is they would be saying, look at these college campuses.
00:21:48.720 These are supposed to be places where your son or daughter can go and learn.
00:21:54.460 They can become productive members of society.
00:21:57.140 They can have a valuable skill and they should, they should be able to go into the workplace.
00:22:00.960 And instead, look what happens here.
00:22:03.280 These places take your money.
00:22:04.880 They, they refuse to let you, uh, you know, they, uh, they go bankrupt.
00:22:10.160 They refuse to let you bankrupt any loans you get.
00:22:12.620 You have to take out these huge loans enough to get a down payment, at least on a house.
00:22:17.780 You know, and instead you're, you're pouring it into these hyperinflated colleges.
00:22:22.880 The degree you're getting is increasingly worthless.
00:22:25.620 You can't find a job with it because the left is allowing massive immigration, not just illegal,
00:22:32.920 but legal immigration.
00:22:34.280 The right is doing this too, by the way, bringing in people on visas to go ahead and take, not
00:22:39.800 just, you know, low, lower wage jobs, not just menial labor jobs, but the kind of jobs
00:22:45.120 that people want when they go to a, to a college and get a college degree.
00:22:48.860 Uh, they're, they're bringing these people in.
00:22:50.880 So you borrow a bunch of money, you delay a bunch of your life.
00:22:55.100 You, uh, take on a bunch of debt.
00:22:57.060 You can't pay back, uh, because you're not going to get a job or you're not going to get
00:23:00.680 paid very much for that job.
00:23:01.860 Cause you have to compete with a bunch of foreign labor because, and because in general,
00:23:06.480 your money is being made worthless through inflation, all these other things you, uh, and
00:23:11.380 then when you get there, it's unsafe.
00:23:13.880 The college campus is unsafe because the leftists there are rabid, uh, radicalizers.
00:23:20.720 They're violent.
00:23:21.880 They're, they're obsessed with foreign conflict.
00:23:24.660 They care more about screeching about foreign countries and shutting down the very thing
00:23:31.020 you're paying, uh, you know, hand over a fist for that's what's happening on college campuses.
00:23:37.580 You're sending, you're, you're taking out massive loans to send your kid that are unbankruptible
00:23:43.280 to a place where they are unsafe, where it's, there's violence and there's constant protests
00:23:48.600 that the facilities that your money is supposed to be paying for are shut down.
00:23:52.260 The classes you're supposed to be go to are shut down due to this constant political radicalism
00:23:56.940 and violence.
00:23:58.020 And, uh, they, they can't even go to class.
00:24:00.820 They can't even get the education that they're supposed to be providing.
00:24:03.280 If they're even there learning anything, they're learning to be radicalized by exactly
00:24:07.160 this ideology.
00:24:08.520 Like this is insane.
00:24:10.120 And this is insane.
00:24:11.100 And so what the GOP, what the right conservatives should be saying is here's what we're going
00:24:15.820 to do.
00:24:16.360 Okay.
00:24:16.620 We're going to solve this problem for everybody.
00:24:19.200 First, we're going to seize the endowments of these universities.
00:24:23.920 They've been basically hiding in the tax code.
00:24:27.320 They've been using the tax code while they steal money, while they inflate their, their
00:24:31.880 tuition and they steal money from young people.
00:24:34.560 And they, they make a monopoly of the, of the, uh, employment market.
00:24:39.320 So no one can get a job without, uh, their degrees.
00:24:42.580 They've been stealing this money from young people.
00:24:44.880 So we're going to seize the endowments, uh, from these places that have claimed to be tax
00:24:49.740 exempt or, you know, but are actually just for-profit degree mills that are, uh, inflating
00:24:55.460 the prices and holding students hostage.
00:24:57.300 We're going to take back the money that they've stolen from students and stolen from their
00:25:01.940 parents.
00:25:02.320 We're going to take that money.
00:25:03.600 And that is the money we're going to use to do loan forgiveness.
00:25:08.760 We're not going to do that, uh, unconstitutional stuff that Joe Biden's doing.
00:25:13.960 We're not going to do all these tricks.
00:25:15.620 We're not going to make all these cutouts, these unconstitutional cutouts.
00:25:19.740 We're going to do this properly.
00:25:21.400 We're going to take the money legally.
00:25:23.620 We're going to put a massive tax on the endowments of these universities, take in all of that
00:25:28.940 money.
00:25:29.300 Yeah.
00:25:29.580 GOP.
00:25:30.180 That's right.
00:25:30.580 Conservatives.
00:25:31.240 We're raising taxes on the university and we're taking all of that money and we're paying
00:25:36.460 off the student loans.
00:25:37.480 That way the student loans are not paid off by people who didn't go to college.
00:25:42.140 They're not paid off by construction workers.
00:25:45.160 They're not paid off by small business owners.
00:25:47.640 They're not paid off by people who did their part and paid off their own student loans.
00:25:52.700 Instead, they're paid for by the universities, the people who got rich, the people who got,
00:25:59.000 you know, make work jobs, the people who funneled money, uh, to their corrupt friends through
00:26:04.040 the university system.
00:26:05.160 We're taking that money.
00:26:06.780 That's what we're going to pay off the student loans with.
00:26:09.260 Not only that, we're going to get rid of federally backed student loans.
00:26:13.600 So there's no longer an incentive to infinitely raise the cost of colleges.
00:26:18.020 That's immediately going to bring down, if not, if, if the seizing of the endowments and
00:26:23.160 the, uh, you know, the, the removal of federal student aid, uh, from the loans, the backing
00:26:29.420 from the student loans so that you don't just have these massive, uh, you know, mortgage
00:26:34.800 size loans going to kids who couldn't, can't possibly, uh, pay them back back by the taxpayer.
00:26:40.640 We're going to strip all of that out.
00:26:42.640 So there's none of this artificial inflation in this tax payer being on the hook for these
00:26:47.400 loans.
00:26:48.180 And we're going to make them bankruptable.
00:26:50.560 We're not going to, we're not going to have this special cut out for student loans.
00:26:53.660 So if you don't want your, uh, your student, uh, taking that loan and then going bankrupt
00:27:00.220 and you losing all that money, well, I guess you better reduce the cost of college because
00:27:04.460 the, because if you hand out a hundred thousand student dollar student loan, because that's
00:27:09.100 what college costs now, and then they bankrupt it, you're just out of money.
00:27:13.060 You're just screwed.
00:27:13.820 Sorry.
00:27:14.520 So that you get rid of that.
00:27:16.000 And finally strip out disparate impact from civil rights law to make sure that companies
00:27:24.140 can hire people without a college degree.
00:27:26.520 Because right now, because of civil rights law, you basically have to use college degrees
00:27:32.080 as your only possible screening mechanism.
00:27:34.080 You can't use IQ tests, you can't use aptitude tests because they're racist or whatever.
00:27:39.640 So strip that out so that you can once again, use common sense tests so that people don't
00:27:45.120 have to spend all of this money to go manage a Walmart somewhere to, to go do the kind of
00:27:51.060 job that their grandpa did.
00:27:52.680 They can go back to a sane society where not everybody has to have a college degree to work
00:27:58.500 at a gas station.
00:27:59.600 I just did that story about how sheets is being sued by the department of justice because they,
00:28:07.520 they use criminal background checks and criminal background checks disproportionately show that
00:28:13.020 minorities have criminal backgrounds and they're more often rejected for employment.
00:28:18.060 So de facto, it's racist.
00:28:19.300 That means again, what gas station is going to require, you have a college degree to show
00:28:24.880 that you're competent or that you're just not a thief.
00:28:27.820 This is insane.
00:28:29.060 We have to get rid of this system.
00:28:30.580 So the right could in one fail swoop say, we're, we're going to help the youth, but we're going
00:28:36.380 to get the youth vote by doing student loan forgiveness.
00:28:39.500 We're going to make everyone who hates what colleges become happy because we're going to
00:28:45.360 get rid of their endowments.
00:28:46.520 We're going to bring down the cost of college.
00:28:48.340 We're going to take the taxpayer off the hook for all of this.
00:28:50.840 And largely we're going to remove the monopoly that the left has on ideology because we're
00:28:57.840 going to remove their, uh, stranglehold that they have their monopoly on employment credentials.
00:29:03.720 It's a win-win for everybody.
00:29:05.720 It's a win all around, but we're not hearing any of that.
00:29:10.300 Instead, we have GOP governors trying to ride to the rescue and save the left from the terrible
00:29:16.220 decisions that they've made.
00:29:18.060 It's just a, it's a terrible, terrible idea.
00:29:21.440 Okay.
00:29:21.860 And what you need to be doing is making sure that college campuses are stripped of the
00:29:28.100 vast majority of their power, the vast majority of their money return back to the organizations
00:29:34.460 that train doctors and engineers, you know, the, the absolute things that really need college
00:29:40.980 degrees and strips out and throws away all this other garbage while also getting rid of
00:29:46.480 this ideological radicalism and this massive payday, this huge patronage network for the
00:29:52.480 left.
00:29:52.800 We can do this.
00:29:54.500 This can be a victory for everybody.
00:29:57.380 This is the best kind of victory.
00:29:59.240 It's a, it's politically smart.
00:30:01.360 It's morally correct.
00:30:03.140 And it could be popular all at the same time.
00:30:08.440 Why wouldn't you want this?
00:30:09.900 Right?
00:30:10.220 We could do this.
00:30:11.180 This, this can be done, but of course it takes political will.
00:30:15.360 It takes you, you know, you actually caring about the people involved.
00:30:19.700 It takes you not being wed to ideological positions.
00:30:24.360 These are the things that you have to do.
00:30:26.360 If you're going to fix this problem, stop fixing this problem for the left, let them fight it out
00:30:32.300 and use this as a political opportunity.
00:30:35.800 I just saw Donald Trump tweeted or, you know, sent out on truth or whatever, you know, in, in the
00:30:42.440 protest, no Donald Trump, no wrong.
00:30:46.260 Somebody, somebody on Donald Trump's team, somebody on the, you know, somewhere, someone
00:30:51.700 who has connections to him, sit him down, tell him this, tell him how to win with this.
00:30:58.080 Tell him how to turn this into a winning position.
00:31:01.760 Stop being stupid and win everybody right now, please.
00:31:07.760 All right.
00:31:08.640 So the other thing that I wanted to get into is a clip from a conservative commentator.
00:31:15.960 You might be familiar with Eric Erickson.
00:31:18.000 Eric Erickson, he's one of these kind of guys who was, he's like a national review.
00:31:23.740 He was on CNN.
00:31:25.480 He was on Fox News for a long time.
00:31:28.640 He's one of these guys who is, you know, kind of was never Trump and then Trump got into power.
00:31:35.680 He's like, well, maybe Trump.
00:31:37.100 And then, you know, now he's back to never Trump again.
00:31:39.420 I think, yeah, many such cases, unfortunately, on the right.
00:31:44.120 And, and he had a lot to say.
00:31:46.400 He got a lot of criticism.
00:31:48.000 He posted this on his Twitter.
00:31:49.280 He cut this clip.
00:31:50.140 So he thought it was a good point.
00:31:52.060 I'm going to play some of it here from his, from his show and talk to you about it real quick.
00:31:57.740 So here's Eric Erickson talking about real conservatism and why we have to go back to real conservatism.
00:32:06.840 There is some weird movement happening within conservatism where a lot of people who were conservative suddenly aren't.
00:32:15.700 And they don't want to give up the name conservative.
00:32:18.840 So I want to be clear at the beginning here that I have given up the name conservative.
00:32:23.560 I often say we conservative, but really that's shorthand because it's conservative at this point is what a lot of people think of as on the right.
00:32:31.540 I don't really see myself as conservative.
00:32:34.400 I think that sadly the institutions that conservatives want to conserve are now entirely in the thrall of the left.
00:32:41.620 And what we need is restoration and, and rebuilding.
00:32:45.800 We, we, there's nothing left to conserve in the current frame of power.
00:32:51.780 And instead the right must become the builders.
00:32:54.000 They must become those that are starting institutions, creating new things, leading the way.
00:33:00.020 They can't be those that are just trying to desperately hold on to the status quo, to the institutions that exist now.
00:33:06.480 Uh, so, uh, I, I'm not even one of the people he's talking about, you know, still being a conservative because, because I, I don't really think of myself that way.
00:33:14.820 I do use the language sometimes because, uh, it is the general blanket for people who are kind of on the right in the American context many times.
00:33:23.160 Uh, but no, that's, it's not really how I see myself, but he's saying, you got to watch out.
00:33:27.980 There are some people who want to change what conservatism is, but they want to call themselves conservative.
00:33:34.440 Now, a lot of people are calling this the new right.
00:33:36.660 Uh, people who are, uh, more, uh, more interested in winning and changing things and, uh, seeing kind of some kind of positive, uh, shift in American culture and its future rather than just, you know, desperately grasping.
00:33:53.160 Uh, onto kind of losing strategies, uh, but he's not the only one to be very concerned about, uh, you know, this approach.
00:34:02.200 They want to redefine what conservatism is.
00:34:05.200 And I think that's a bad thing.
00:34:08.160 Limited government and free markets are a good thing.
00:34:11.200 And yet we have a number of people at conservative think tanks in Washington, DC now who want government control.
00:34:16.800 So, uh, to be really clear, a lot of people have criticized neoculturalism.
00:34:23.160 Neoconservatism, but, uh, the thing that really is concerning, I think, for many of these established conservatives is these ideas are not just on the outside of the, okay?
00:34:35.820 Uh, I'm, I'm from the outside.
00:34:38.060 I was, I was a teacher and a journalist.
00:34:40.820 I, I did not, I worked briefly in Republican politics for a couple of years when I first kind of got out of college.
00:34:47.360 Uh, but for the, but, but, you know, only at the very, you know, at the state level, I was never, you know, I was never connected.
00:34:53.600 I was never involved in, in any of the, you know, uh, real Washington beltway establishment, uh, sense of, of that word.
00:35:03.080 And, you know, there's been plenty of us from the outside who have criticized what's going on in con ink establishment conservatism, but very few people.
00:35:14.100 And I understand that there's some irony now that I'm on a more mainstream conservative network, but, uh, you know, I, I just, I never had those connections, but a lot of people are concerned.
00:35:25.860 And the guys like me are in positions like I am now, and more importantly for guys like Eric Erickson, the think tanks, right?
00:35:32.120 You start to have people in the think tanks who don't think like doctrinaire, uh, neoconservatives.
00:35:39.240 And that's a real problem, uh, for many of the mainstream conservatives, because they know that the think tanks move a lot of what happens, right?
00:35:48.380 This is where the up and coming talent gets, gets drawn in a lot of money flows through here.
00:35:53.860 This is where policy is often created, drawn up, uh, many of the minds that, uh, eventually end up, uh, kind of, uh, running campaigns or, uh, being put a staff into, uh, positions in the executive branch and a Republican win, uh, these people come from think tanks.
00:36:12.940 And so, uh, you know, a lot, a lot of these guys are worried that the think tanks are starting to listen to the vanguard because the, the neocons work.
00:36:23.860 It's really hard to purge real conservatism out of the American right.
00:36:29.940 They got rid of all of the kind of fifties, uh, you know, conservatives who preexisted the neoconservative movement.
00:36:38.480 Uh, you know, they purged out Birchers and others, uh, they purged out the paleo cons, uh, you know, they, they pushed it out.
00:36:44.960 Guys like, uh, you know, Pat Buchanan and Paul Godfrey and, uh, you know, uh, a lot of people like that.
00:36:54.400 And so they're, they don't want to see these people back.
00:36:57.560 They thought they had won that argument that the, the, the neoconservatives would rule the right forever.
00:37:04.140 And they thought that that was just the way things were going to be from here on out.
00:37:08.100 You know, Buckley had been, uh, victorious and this was what the right was going to be, uh, moving forward.
00:37:14.400 And so the fact that, you know, the, the, the return of Donald Trump and paleo conservatism, again, Trump is a very flawed guy.
00:37:21.800 I don't think he's very ideological.
00:37:23.600 I don't think he was a paleo conservative.
00:37:26.180 I think he was a, you know, a moderate Democrat, New York good Democrat for the most part.
00:37:30.580 Uh, but, but the spirit behind him is certainly one of paleo conservatism.
00:37:35.780 One that is, uh, interested in putting America first, putting Americans first, putting the nation first before foreign war adventurism or free markets or whatever, uh, caring about the good of the people of the nation.
00:37:48.740 And they do not like this.
00:37:50.140 This is, this is a problem.
00:37:51.340 This is a threat.
00:37:52.380 They don't want this to come back.
00:37:55.260 And so they are, uh, they're very, well, they're worried that this has made its way into the think tanks because once this is in the think tanks, that means it's going to actually get injected into the movements establishment proper.
00:38:08.240 This isn't just a bunch of guys talking on the internet anymore.
00:38:11.440 This isn't just some, uh, you know, so some learned, but, you know, relatively irrelevant intellectuals writing books somewhere.
00:38:18.780 This is working its way into the actual structures of the party.
00:38:22.560 And by the way, the right to be worried.
00:38:25.540 I am surprised at the number of texts and messages I get from people in very established corners, very mainstream adjacent corners, or just straight up mainstream corners saying, yeah, that's right.
00:38:40.600 Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with you on that.
00:38:43.520 Yeah.
00:38:43.960 Keep hitting on that.
00:38:45.360 We're, we're, we're more and more of us are talking like that now.
00:38:49.580 This is not what they want.
00:38:51.040 This is, this is scaring many of the never Trump neocon type guys.
00:38:55.280 And with good reason, they should be worried.
00:38:59.200 What their government to control.
00:39:00.900 Now I need you to understand the problem here.
00:39:04.380 If you limit the size and scope of the federal government, it makes it harder for big government to do things.
00:39:11.660 Has that been your experience, Eric?
00:39:15.420 Has that, has that been the case?
00:39:17.980 We've heard about small government, the importance of small government and free markets forever.
00:39:24.560 Now that, that my entire life, I grew up believing on this.
00:39:28.220 This was, this was just below the Bible on my, you know, absolute automatic, you know, like axioms.
00:39:36.900 This was what I believe, you know, that I was spoon fed this from a young age.
00:39:41.020 Okay.
00:39:42.320 Where's the evidence for this?
00:39:45.860 How, how is that working out for everybody?
00:39:48.360 Now I want to be clear.
00:39:49.760 There is, there is some important truth to the fact that smaller government is better.
00:39:55.300 However, this is what, this is what the truth is.
00:39:58.740 It's better not that government is just arbitrarily smaller.
00:40:03.520 There's no value in arbitrarily small government.
00:40:06.500 There is value in government that is restrained by social norm and social compact.
00:40:14.100 Now there is a correlation between the physical size or the actual, you know, uh, the, the, the actual scope of power and money wielded by the government.
00:40:24.720 And abilities of other social spheres to stand against it.
00:40:28.380 So I'm not saying that there's no connection there.
00:40:30.960 There is indeed one.
00:40:32.200 Okay.
00:40:32.520 But government should have sufficient authority in the areas where it is important.
00:40:39.900 Okay.
00:40:40.160 The complete retreat of government from, you know, the, the, from moral areas and other parts of the social sphere has not actually created the, the, uh, a retreat of government interference.
00:40:55.760 What has happened is that conservatives said they were going to get small government.
00:41:00.960 So they pulled away from, you know, the public square, they pulled religion out of the public square.
00:41:06.020 They pulled, uh, family values out of the public square.
00:41:09.560 They pulled their influence out of the public square.
00:41:12.820 They got rid of blasphemy laws.
00:41:14.120 They got rid of blue laws.
00:41:15.220 They got rid of all these things that are, you know, restricting our freedoms and, you know, create big government, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:21.740 They got a government out of all of these things that they were told to.
00:41:25.760 And what happened is the left just shoved their government in.
00:41:29.300 It's not that government got smaller.
00:41:31.480 It's not that the size and power of government was limited by the conservative principle of small government.
00:41:37.500 All the conservative principle of small government did was tell conservatives.
00:41:41.860 It was their principle to lose.
00:41:43.420 It was their principle to not use power.
00:41:45.780 It was their principle to retreat every time they were in office and that the left, well, their principle is big government.
00:41:53.640 So they can ideologically and morally advance their belief system every time they're in power.
00:41:59.940 And all this did is create an environment where government was not restrained at all.
00:42:06.100 Government power did not stop at all.
00:42:08.620 And instead, we have this constant expansion.
00:42:12.380 And look, things like free trade, to the extent that capitalism, free trade, whatever, free markets, is good for your people.
00:42:22.920 And in many cases and ways it is, you should embrace it.
00:42:26.220 And in the places where it is not good, like where your jobs get shipped overseas, where your economy is strip mined by global organizations, where your people are vilified and made victims of these giant corporations that do not care about the people they're theoretically conserving.
00:42:49.440 In that instance, no, it's not good, that's bad, and you should stop it.
00:42:55.500 You should stop being married to ideology, and instead, you should be thinking about the good of the people of the country.
00:43:02.740 You should put America first, not your ideology first.
00:43:06.780 Conservatism is about conserving, and at least it should be, about conserving the people of this country and their tradition and their way of life, their religion, their beliefs, their families.
00:43:22.320 That's what it should be conserving.
00:43:24.680 And whatever tools are good for that should be on the table.
00:43:28.860 And whatever tools are bad for that should be discarded, shouldn't be ideological, should be focused on the good of the people.
00:43:39.080 If instead you decide that you want to be in charge of the government and use the government for your purposes, you're going to say,
00:43:47.460 Okay, he's just describing an election.
00:43:49.580 If you, instead, want to be in charge of the government and use the government for your purposes, yes, that's called getting elected and having power.
00:44:00.440 Yes, the right needs to use power.
00:44:02.860 Yes, the right needs to get elected and get comfortable with using power.
00:44:07.320 Absolutely.
00:44:08.520 That is what governance is.
00:44:11.000 If you don't do it, the left is going to do it.
00:44:14.380 That doesn't mean you shouldn't have principles.
00:44:16.700 That doesn't mean you shouldn't have a plan.
00:44:19.580 But it does mean you need to stop telling people that, oh, you want to be in charge?
00:44:24.020 You want to use the government for your plan?
00:44:26.340 Yes!
00:44:27.780 Yes!
00:44:28.800 That's not, that, that, that's, you should be using the government to conserve.
00:44:33.020 That's what you should be doing.
00:44:35.240 If not, why bother?
00:44:37.120 You're just the left but slower.
00:44:39.920 As Michael Malice says, you're just the left going the speed limit.
00:44:42.940 If the left says, we use power, and the right says, we don't, then you are just addicted to losing.
00:44:50.260 You're what Sam Francis called beautiful losers.
00:44:52.920 Oh, I've got my principles.
00:44:54.320 No, you don't have principles.
00:44:56.380 You are unprincipled.
00:44:57.600 You're a coward.
00:44:58.200 That's not a principle.
00:45:00.620 That's cowardice.
00:45:02.620 You don't have the guts to fight for what you actually should believe in.
00:45:06.200 You don't have the guts to protect the people you should be protecting.
00:45:09.440 That is not principle.
00:45:11.440 That is not principle conservatism.
00:45:13.960 That is just being a loser.
00:45:15.900 They have precedents that the other side will use when they come to power, and ultimately, there's no such thing as a permanent political majority in the United States of America.
00:45:28.000 Who is still holding on to this myth?
00:45:30.760 Who is still, how do you still parrot this without, like, just cracking up?
00:45:35.380 Oh, if we use power when the left get in power, they'll use it against us.
00:45:39.020 They locked you in your homes.
00:45:40.600 They put their thumb or an entire, you know, weight set on the scale.
00:45:48.440 They threw their sword onto the scale during an election and yelled, woe to the conquered.
00:45:53.740 And you did nothing.
00:45:55.400 Oh, what if you set a precedent for what the left does?
00:45:58.460 They're trying to put their political opponents in jail.
00:46:02.320 Douglas Mackey is facing jail time for a meme.
00:46:05.300 Donald Trump is sitting in a courtroom instead of running his campaign right now because the left have...
00:46:10.600 Created charges out of thin air for no other reason than an attempt to criminalize their opposition.
00:46:18.240 January 6th defendants are rotting in jail to this day while 2020 rioters from Black Lives Matter and Tifa go free.
00:46:26.760 What if you set a precedent that the left will hurt you?
00:46:31.840 Get out of here with that garbage.
00:46:33.380 How stupid do you have to be?
00:46:35.580 How can you keep looking at the world around you and keep pretending that, oh, I use power.
00:46:43.080 My enemies might use it against you.
00:46:44.520 Really?
00:46:45.100 You think?
00:46:46.260 You think the guys who are deploying the CIA and the FBI to crush you might use political power?
00:46:55.940 What are you talking about?
00:46:57.660 This is delusional.
00:46:58.800 So if you grow the government for your purposes and set the precedents of that growth, when you're out of power and the people you don't like are in power, they're going to use your precedents and the government you grew, and they're going to use it against you.
00:47:12.520 Again, this is a complete myth.
00:47:14.740 Yes, I get under...
00:47:16.600 In theory, this is how government is supposed to check government.
00:47:19.940 This is Federalist 51, how ambition checks ambition, right?
00:47:24.360 In theory, yeah, I get it.
00:47:26.760 Except that's not what has happened in practice.
00:47:29.780 In practice, what has happened is the total state has emerged.
00:47:33.600 By the way, you can go ahead and order my book.
00:47:35.740 It comes out on May 7th.
00:47:37.100 The total state has fused multiple parts of our consensus-making apparatus with our security state, and they all work together.
00:47:48.840 The left is never out of power, or I should say the uniparty is never out of power.
00:47:53.260 Yeah, Donald Trump might win an election, but when Donald Trump wins an election, is he in power?
00:47:59.220 His generals committed treason and laughed in his face and gloated about it.
00:48:04.860 The executive branch straight up just told Trump no on many occasions.
00:48:09.340 He was not in power.
00:48:10.380 He was elected.
00:48:11.980 Technically, he has the same power under Article 2 of the Constitution that Barack Obama or Joe Biden had.
00:48:19.580 But in actuality, he did not.
00:48:21.500 So, no, the consequences of the election do not just eventually come.
00:48:27.100 The pendulum does not just swing the other way.
00:48:29.720 The left have taken the managerial, administrative state and turned it into a Leviathan that holds power for them.
00:48:37.920 And not only is that the case, you specifically are arguing in the same speech for why the right can't punish these people if they do get into power.
00:48:47.120 So, in Eric Erickson's world, he just throws Mutually Assured Destruction out the window, right?
00:48:55.020 The plan is you fire a nuke, we fire a nuke.
00:48:59.040 So, nukes are a terrible idea because the minute you fire a nuke, we're going to come back and hit you.
00:49:03.900 Now, in here, he says, oh, I'm for Mutually Assured Destruction, or that's why the right can't build power because of Mutually Assured Destruction.
00:49:10.060 But he just got done saying why the right can never fire the nuke, why they can never actually destroy.
00:49:16.700 That doesn't work.
00:49:17.800 You can't threaten to say, oh, the mechanism that holds power in place is Mutually Assured Destruction, and then promise your enemies you'll never fire back.
00:49:25.380 If we fight back, they win.
00:49:27.480 That's the argument here.
00:49:28.580 If I fight back against my enemy, my enemy wins.
00:49:33.500 Oh, okay.
00:49:34.540 How's that working?
00:49:36.060 You feeling good about that?
00:49:38.100 It's just insane.
00:49:39.820 Obviously, the pendulum does not swing back.
00:49:42.240 Obviously, the left retains power through its constant control of entertainment, of academia, of the deep state or the unelected bureaucracy, of the security apparatus, be it the FBI or the intelligence agencies.
00:49:56.960 The left retains control, whether they win the election or not.
00:50:02.700 The only people who are ever out of power are the right.
00:50:05.480 The left is always in power.
00:50:07.640 The right might get to hold power for a moment, might get to sit in the seat, but it never actually wields it.
00:50:15.180 Specifically because guys like Eric Erickson tell them not to.
00:50:18.460 And so the left has zero consequences for creating anything they want and wielding it against their enemies.
00:50:24.200 And then the right gets guys like this telling them, oh, whatever you do, don't actually do anything that could scare the left.
00:50:30.700 Don't do anything that would actually punish them.
00:50:32.820 Don't do anything that would actually hurt them.
00:50:34.940 Because our job is to be ineffective losers anytime we get elected.
00:50:39.440 Sadly, some conservative groups in Washington, D.C. have decided that the federal government can set about some sort of justly ordered society.
00:50:49.220 Your view of a justly ordered society, I assure you, is completely different from the view of pro-transgender progressives who want a justly ordered society that is going to come after you for not supporting transgenderism.
00:51:02.320 And yet, it already does.
00:51:04.820 Again, this is so stupid.
00:51:07.980 He's like, it's like he's making, it's like the art, forget the argument from nowhere.
00:51:12.340 This is the argument from like 1995.
00:51:15.360 I can tell you exactly where this argument is from.
00:51:17.920 It's so stupid.
00:51:19.280 He's acting as if the last 20 years just didn't happen.
00:51:22.620 He just hasn't seen any of the events that have occurred around him.
00:51:25.840 Oh, you know, their vision of the world is different from your vision of the world.
00:51:31.780 And if you try to build a justly ordered society, then their vision is different.
00:51:36.080 Yes, that's correct.
00:51:38.300 Yes, we have different visions of the good.
00:51:42.360 That's the whole point.
00:51:43.700 That's the whole reason to be involved in politics at all, is that you have a different vision than the other people.
00:51:50.040 Otherwise, you would just let them rule you.
00:51:51.980 So, yes, you have a drastically different vision of the world.
00:51:55.060 And by the way, their vision and your vision cannot coexist.
00:52:00.200 You cannot work it out.
00:52:02.980 You can't hug this one out, guys.
00:52:05.440 You can't have normal families, safe families, kids who are raised in a stable environment and trans ideology shoved onto kids from the time they're four years old in a preschool.
00:52:18.820 These things cannot coexist.
00:52:21.720 One of these worldviews is going to win.
00:52:23.460 And this is the problem.
00:52:24.840 Eric is still stuck in this idea that we can just have this endless detente.
00:52:30.520 This is the liberal lie.
00:52:32.220 This is the classically liberal lie.
00:52:34.660 That we can end the political friend-enemy distinction.
00:52:38.520 That political conflict is done.
00:52:40.020 And that it's all just negotiations over the technocratic management of some kind of government here.
00:52:48.520 That is not what is happening.
00:52:50.400 The left have a particular vision of the world and they will force it on you.
00:52:55.220 The people who want to win are going to beat the people who want to be left alone every time.
00:52:59.980 It can be your vision of the world or it can be the left's vision of the world.
00:53:06.160 There is no world where like everybody just, you know, hangs back and does their own thing.
00:53:12.280 Obviously, that is so far in the rearview mirror, it's comical.
00:53:16.340 And the fact that he's still saying that this is the case, that this is a possibility, in fact, this is what principled conservatives do, absolute insanity.
00:53:25.560 Some of these conservative groups have decided they're going to grow government to justly order society.
00:53:30.220 And you do need to understand you're not going to hold on to power in this country forever, short of abandoning this country, short of abandoning the American Republic as it currently exists, which I think is the subtle undercurrent of some of these guys.
00:53:44.220 They're not really fans of the American Republic and would like to seize power and hold power.
00:53:49.140 There is some weird.
00:53:51.360 And this is the last part here, right, is this idea that he still thinks that the American Republic is just operating as normal.
00:54:00.820 Yeah, that's what we got here.
00:54:02.380 We've got a constitutional republic.
00:54:04.000 We've got a constitutional republic where, you know, the government locks up its political opponents.
00:54:09.900 We've got a constitutional republic where generals ignore the commander in chief and laugh at his face and brag about it.
00:54:17.700 We've got a constitutional republic where Internet millionaire millionaires basically buy out the electoral system and change the rules on a dime after locking people in their houses for a year.
00:54:30.880 And having riots.
00:54:35.500 Yeah, we've got a constitutional republic where.
00:54:38.620 Remember, the line was, it's a republic if you can keep it.
00:54:44.440 We didn't.
00:54:46.100 That's tough.
00:54:47.100 That's tough to hear.
00:54:48.240 That's sad.
00:54:49.300 But it's true.
00:54:51.160 And again, this is the argument from 1995.
00:54:54.960 It's just ignoring everything that has happened.
00:54:57.860 It's ignoring everything around us, all the evidence, and saying, why won't you just hold on to these principles?
00:55:05.260 Because they're not principles.
00:55:08.100 These are not principles.
00:55:10.620 This is a set of ideologies that you told yourself were conservatism.
00:55:17.240 But go back and read Russell Kirk.
00:55:20.300 Actually, go back and look at the people who wrote things about the conservative movement and the conservative mind.
00:55:25.300 Go back and read Burke, the original conservative.
00:55:30.660 I think even he's a little too liberal, but they knew things that Eric Erickson doesn't know.
00:55:35.960 They specifically abhorred the idea of abstraction.
00:55:39.480 They specifically abhorred the idea of ideology.
00:55:42.700 They knew that conservatism should be about conserving the people and their way of life.
00:55:49.180 Protecting the nation as it is for their posterity.
00:55:55.300 It was not about holding to free trade.
00:55:57.620 It was not about holding to, you know, neoconservative foreign policy.
00:56:02.660 It's not about conquering the world in the name of, you know, whatever.
00:56:06.980 That is not conservatism.
00:56:10.000 Conservatism is putting your country first.
00:56:12.480 Knowing what's best for the people who live in your country because you are part of them.
00:56:17.020 Because you care about them.
00:56:18.660 Because you're involved in their lives.
00:56:20.660 And yes, in many ways, small government does help to do that, by the way.
00:56:24.600 There is a true value in localism and subsidiary.
00:56:30.180 That part is true.
00:56:32.400 But you cannot achieve that in our current environment because the left have conquered every institution.
00:56:37.500 So, to some extent, you will need power to break these things down, if nothing else.
00:56:43.360 And if you actually want to have a credible threat of opposition, you have to actually be able to push these things back.
00:56:49.320 You can't tell your enemy, oh, well, we don't use power.
00:56:52.460 We're too good.
00:56:53.740 Yeah, sorry.
00:56:54.400 But our principles say that whenever we're in power, we sit around and wait for you to come back and destroy us.
00:57:00.500 That is not mutually assured destruction.
00:57:04.320 Even if the pendulum were true, your very principles would destroy its actual use.
00:57:11.760 Because your principles prevent you from holding the left in check.
00:57:16.380 Your own espoused principles keep you from doing the thing you said the founders wanted you to do.
00:57:22.560 So, no, you are not a principled conservative.
00:57:25.920 Sorry.
00:57:26.900 This is neoconservative junk ideology.
00:57:29.280 This has destroyed the right.
00:57:31.700 It needs to go.
00:57:33.400 I'm sorry you feel that, oh, the evil America firsters, the paleocons, they're coming in to the think tanks and they're taking it.
00:57:41.940 Good.
00:57:42.660 Good.
00:57:43.700 Good.
00:57:44.660 It's about time.
00:57:46.400 You guys failed.
00:57:48.640 You pushed out everyone in the conservative movement who actually cared about the country.
00:57:52.640 You prioritized your own ideology and foreign policy over the good of the people who live in this country.
00:58:00.100 You lost every possible conceivable battle.
00:58:03.640 And now you have the gall to hector people who are trying to really win and make a difference.
00:58:08.640 Get out of the way.
00:58:09.740 You failed.
00:58:10.840 Go back to left where you belong.
00:58:12.200 Real conservatism is about saving America for Americans.
00:58:18.740 Not your ideology.
00:58:21.240 Not your preferred economic system.
00:58:24.000 Not your global hegemony.
00:58:26.040 It's about America.
00:58:28.060 That needs to change.
00:58:30.260 That's what conservatism could really be about.
00:58:34.480 All right, guys.
00:58:35.080 Let's go ahead and check out the questions of the people here.
00:58:39.460 Let's see.
00:58:47.120 Sorry, Jess D.
00:58:48.440 I'm going to go ahead and skip that question just because I need to be careful with YouTube
00:58:52.000 and make sure that the channel is not struck.
00:58:55.160 But thank you for supporting the show here.
00:58:58.360 Ed says, do you see an argument for true right-wing counter-ideological zealotry to defeat leftism?
00:59:06.320 So I want to be really clear on what ideology is because I think one of the problems here
00:59:11.060 is people don't understand what I mean by ideology.
00:59:14.220 When I say that you need to reject ideology, I don't mean you need to reject principles.
00:59:19.320 I don't mean that you need to reject intellectual understanding.
00:59:23.040 I don't mean that you need to reject a lot of things that are critical to opposing the left.
00:59:31.660 I do mean what I was saying there, that you need to avoid this abstraction of systems
00:59:38.700 and putting that above the good of the people.
00:59:42.520 A true right-wing conservatism would protect the people of this country first.
00:59:47.980 And it would do what is good for them first.
00:59:50.560 And its zealotry would come in its dedication to the people of this country and their well-being first.
00:59:57.540 And it would not be married to specific economic systems or foreign policies
01:00:04.180 beyond the extent to which they help the people of this country.
01:00:09.760 If you're a capitalist, you're a capitalist because it helps Americans.
01:00:12.340 If you're, you know, for the defense of something, it's because military defense of something
01:00:17.160 is because it actually protects the well-being of people.
01:00:21.140 Not in some weird abstract, oh, well, we have to go fight them in Ukraine
01:00:24.440 or that Putin will invade California tomorrow.
01:00:26.880 But like actually materially improves, you know, the protection of the United States.
01:00:32.340 I think you can be zealous to the extent that you protect the people of this nation
01:00:38.560 and its well-being.
01:00:39.340 I think that's healthy, though zealotry is often, it's by its word, by its usage, an extremist.
01:00:47.300 So we'll just say there's a healthy protection of the people of the United States,
01:00:52.400 of this country, of its well-being that I think people should engage in.
01:00:56.120 But the abstractions that those, that ideology in that sense, I think needs to be abandoned.
01:01:01.420 But tiny stupid demon says GOP, Delinda S.
01:01:05.900 Yeah, I, I believe just due to the nature of America and it's, it's kind of the truth
01:01:14.660 about its dynamics, dynamics, electoral dynamics, that you will probably have a two-party system
01:01:21.800 even if, you know, a significant change comes.
01:01:24.860 And the right wing will probably be concentrated in the GOP to some extent.
01:01:31.540 But I think the GOP as it currently exists does need to be destroyed.
01:01:35.960 Yeah, it does need to go.
01:01:37.140 I think it's super unhealthy.
01:01:38.920 I think the vast majority of people involved with it are, are far too ideological,
01:01:42.780 far too interested in kind of their Washington cutouts and their beltway interests.
01:01:47.340 I think that something called the GOP probably will deliver, will be the vehicle that kind
01:01:54.100 of whatever comes next uses to help improve the country or change things.
01:01:58.760 But the, the GOP as it is currently constituted is a disaster.
01:02:03.540 Let's see.
01:02:05.800 Creepery Weirdo says, against ideology, I'll do it if Yarvin can.
01:02:11.000 You know, again, I have a lot of, I have a lot of respect for Yarvin.
01:02:16.400 I think that overall, he's a very valuable thinker.
01:02:20.100 I do think that in general, his materialism means that he treats the people of America
01:02:26.380 just like any other people.
01:02:27.800 And he might want what's good for them, but he doesn't really tie it to, I think,
01:02:31.740 kind of the spiritual that you need to in order to truly value these things.
01:02:36.960 And that does lend you to ideology.
01:02:39.020 I think that in many ways, ideology is a substitute for religion.
01:02:43.380 Many people said, oh, well, we need to have the enlightenment.
01:02:46.040 And liberalism so we can get rid of these wars of the religion.
01:02:49.460 But we didn't really get rid of war.
01:02:51.420 And we didn't really get rid of a religion.
01:02:53.480 We just kind of discarded religion for a pseudo religion, for ideologies.
01:02:59.960 And we then fought about those.
01:03:02.240 So, you know, the Soviet Union was really good at killing people.
01:03:05.780 And it didn't have an official religion, but it had an ideology it was based on.
01:03:11.700 And it was murderously effective at enforcing that ideology.
01:03:16.560 So, something to consider.
01:03:19.740 Creeper Weirdo says, I think John Goodman had a right-wingish brother learning all sorts of new things today.
01:03:26.460 I did not know that.
01:03:27.320 Thank you.
01:03:28.300 Let's see.
01:03:29.780 Creeper Weirdo says, what is the opposite of the They Live glasses?
01:03:35.600 Let's see.
01:03:36.360 What would be the opposite of the They Live glasses?
01:03:38.860 I don't know.
01:03:39.320 The running joke about They Live is that all of the billboards that get revealed by the glasses are actually just way better than our current ruling overlords.
01:03:48.620 Like, yeah, they were like horrific aliens from outer space, but they're like, you know, get married, greed, you know, like they had better life advice than the people who actually run our nation today.
01:04:02.560 So, that's kind of the running joke with They Live is that the evil alien overlords are actually more benevolent than the people who are currently involved.
01:04:11.100 Let's see.
01:04:11.580 Tiny Stupid Demon says, National Review and Bio is the new pronouns in bio.
01:04:15.800 So, yeah, your lips to God's ears there.
01:04:19.340 Let's see.
01:04:20.160 Thuggo says, great job, Ward.
01:04:21.620 Well, thank you, man.
01:04:22.240 I really appreciate that.
01:04:23.220 Thank you guys so much for watching.
01:04:26.040 This one, got a little heat in this one just because I'm so tired of this.
01:04:30.140 But I feel like we can do better.
01:04:32.960 We can win.
01:04:34.140 Like, these are options if we just stop being idiots.
01:04:37.460 Let's see.
01:04:38.880 Glow in the Dark said, Erickson talks about conservatism being about breaking down power.
01:04:43.840 Says the bare minimum when talking about college is probably because he is from law school.
01:04:50.140 Yeah, again, they're just conserving the systems of power that they want to be plugged into, right?
01:04:55.360 Like, a lot of these guys are, they're really just second-rate elites.
01:05:00.580 They're elites who are embarrassed that they have to rule over the less desirable half of the American electorate.
01:05:07.780 But they're completely plugged in to all these systems.
01:05:10.540 And that's why they don't want anything too radical.
01:05:12.340 That's why they don't want anything that's going to come in and actually shift things because they're deeply invested in the system.
01:05:18.420 And so I think that's, you know, that's why you see a lot of them saying,
01:05:22.100 we can't use power to disrupt anything because ultimately, you know, I mostly want mild reforms because they're creatures of this thing.
01:05:30.060 Let's see.
01:05:30.940 Creeper Weirdo says,
01:05:31.820 Oren called for a reformation.
01:05:33.440 Everybody heard.
01:05:34.960 You know, yeah, I'll get my, I am preparing all 99 of my theses.
01:05:39.020 I will, I will go ahead and nail them to the brick wall back here in between albums.
01:05:45.260 Let's see.
01:05:46.840 Life of Brian says,
01:05:48.180 Convenient that Erickson's ideology at all always requires the refusal to use power.
01:05:53.060 Yes.
01:05:53.440 You really start to believe that our principles and our ideology just happen to line up with not being a serious threat to the regime, to its power, to its systems.
01:06:03.260 What a surprise.
01:06:04.360 What a surprise.
01:06:04.940 And again, that's, I think, because a lot of that, that lines up with glow in the dark's comments about them being invested in these systems in the first place.
01:06:13.640 Let's see.
01:06:15.060 Theodore McCarthy says,
01:06:17.000 Authentic conservatism is a moral position, not an ideological position.
01:06:20.660 Yeah.
01:06:21.040 Again, I think that's right.
01:06:22.520 I think more people need to go back and look at actual conservatives.
01:06:26.780 Like not, not, you know, not, not commentators from the last 20 years, but the guys who actually came up with this.
01:06:33.440 Again, I wouldn't even call myself a conservative in that stripe, but at the very least, these guys understood that the Constitution was, was a reflection of the people.
01:06:43.020 That the, that all of these things that they were talking about, small government and whatnot, these were only valuable to the extent that they allowed the, the traditions and the folk ways and the religion and the culture of the people who are American to continue to be passed down to their children.
01:07:00.060 That's what actual conservatism has nothing to do with free markets or capitalism or, you know, world order or any of this stuff.
01:07:08.380 That, that stuff might be helpful.
01:07:10.200 It might not, you know, it might apply in certain situations and not in others.
01:07:14.920 The thing is to not lock yourself down into ideological systems, but to prefer always and in every situation, what is best for Americans, what is healthy for them, what grows their well-being and allows them to pass that down to their descendants.
01:07:29.140 You put that first, you're going to come up with much better decisions than if you sit there and say, I've got the textbook definition of what conservative ideology is.
01:07:37.860 No, bad, wrong, do not do that.
01:07:40.840 Let's see here.
01:07:43.440 Cherub Cow says, great stream, thanks.
01:07:45.360 Well, thanks again, man.
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