Curtis Yarvin Apologizes for Being Wrong About Trump | 2⧸3⧸25
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In this episode, I discuss Curtis Yarvin's essay, "I Was Wrong About Trump," and why it's worth taking a look at the ideas he proposed in order to make sense of the Trump administration. I also talk about why we should treat the government as a startup, and why we need to get rid of the old guys in favor of young, ambitious people.
Transcript
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Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre.
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If you've been watching this channel for a long time, then you know that I really got my start by discussing the political theory of Curtis Yarvin.
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Since then, we've gone down all kinds of rabbit holes, not just looking at Yarvin's work, but other neo-reactionary thinkers,
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and more importantly, all of the different philosophers that formed the foundation of what Yarvin was doing,
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looking at Vilfredo Pareto, or looking at Bertrand de Juvenal, and all these other key figures that really shaped the way that he understands power.
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While Curtis Yarvin, I think, has been wrong about a number of things over the years, and people love to point all those things out,
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I still think ultimately he is somebody who is well worth taking a look at.
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Even when Yarvin is wrong, he's wrong in interesting ways, and he's often more right than people like to give him credit for.
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And that's why I thought it was very interesting this week that Yarvin came out with an essay saying,
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I was wrong about the ability of this administration to make significant changes and to win victories.
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Now, he still has lots of predictions that he's still holding to, but ultimately he said,
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I was too pessimistic. I was too blackpilled on what the Trump administration could do.
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And when you look at what's going on right now, you have to understand why he feels that way.
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Again, early days were only a few weeks into Trump's presidency.
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He's still got to do a lot of work when it comes to passing legislation, winning battles in Congress,
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and ultimately cementing the legacy of the things that he's trying to do,
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not just get them done through executive order or through the ability to kind of do diplomacy or hard bargaining with foreign powers.
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But ultimately, from the experience we've had so far, his run is very impressive,
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Now, it's interesting because the Trump administration has implemented some of the tactics that Yarvin suggested in his work.
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Very significantly, the fact that they were offering at least a limited version of Yarvin's RAGE program,
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Retire All Government Employees, was pretty significant.
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Yarvin's original suggestion was just to buy out every employee in the United States government
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and completely replace them, making this basically a bloodless coup,
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a rotation of elites that's entirely peaceful and even constitutional inside those bounds.
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But a true change in leadership because ultimately we know that the deep state,
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the total state or the cathedral, depending on what moniker you want to use,
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was ultimately the power behind Washington, D.C.
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You can change whoever you want at the top, but ultimately we kept getting the same government over and over again
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because that entrenched federal bureaucracy and its tendrils across intelligence agencies
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and media outlets and education and everything else
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was ultimately determining what the United States would be doing.
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If you can swap out all those government employees,
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you change the personnel and therefore you change the implementation of the policy across the federal government.
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And Yarvin, again, had long suggested you do this with everyone.
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Trump did this to a limited degree with everyone who would not return back to work.
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We had all the federal employees who left during the pandemic
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and they didn't want to return to the building.
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And Trump was like, well, I wanted to fire you anyway, so this is a good excuse.
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And if you don't, then you got to take the severance package.
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I mean, still relatively generous, but nowhere near the four years that Yarvin had suggested
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Ultimately, however, we see other projects like Yarvin's idea that you should be treating the government as a startup.
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We don't need to have 70-year-olds with tons of credentials,
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but no ability to actually think through a problem sitting at the top of these positions.
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Instead, you should be handing this to young and ambitious individuals.
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And today we see a lot of the libs crying about the fact that Elon and many of his younger guys,
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many of whom are somewhere between 20 and 30, have gotten into the kind of U.S. budget.
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They've started to identify things that need to be cut.
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U.S. aid is the first thing that has already been on the chopping block.
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A lot of people on the left are screaming about that.
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But, of course, that doesn't just end the money that's going out the door for the United States.
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More importantly, and we've seen this with Trump over and over again,
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it's cutting off the progressive patronage network by limiting foreign aid,
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You are making sure that it's not just that the taxpayer is saving money,
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but that the left is not getting money directly funneled into its patronage projects.
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But like I said, even though we've seen Trump mirror some of Yarvin's goals in his policies
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and their applications, ultimately, Yarvin was not very positive about Trump's victory.
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He did not believe, ultimately, that this was going to make significant changes.
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He was skeptical about the ability of Trump to implement many of these changes.
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But now you see what is happening, and Yarvin kind of has to ultimately say,
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because I just didn't think that these kind of practical victories could take place.
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So I thought it would be good to read through this response.
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Ultimately, does this throw all of Yarvin's conclusions into question?
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Does it mean he was just wrong on this specific topic?
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I want to get into his blog post here and kind of uncover that.
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I'm also going to give a little mini review of his new book,
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which was his first volume of his Gray Mirror book that is supposed to be coming out.
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I've read through it now, and I'll kind of give you my thoughts after I get done with his blog post here,
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because I think it kind of dovetails into everything that we're going to be looking at here.
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So that said, let's take a look at Curtis Yarvin's post here.
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Let me zoom in a little bit to make it easier for you to read as we follow along.
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After a week, I think it's clear that Donald Trump was not engaging in hyperbole when he told the libs,
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We will do things to you that have never been done before.
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Poetry is like a line that sticks in your head.
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And while bad politics is bad poetry, good politics is good poetry.
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Politics and religion are brothers, and comedy is the cousin of both.
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Again, if you're allergic to Curtis Yarvin's style of kind of stuffing in these turns of phrases,
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His rhetorical flourishes have never bothered me,
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but I know that's not a lot of people's favorite stuff about his writing.
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I was talking to a very worried lib a couple of months before the election.
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I was like, dude, remember that full page, huge point, headline in the times when Donald Trump says,
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long list of hyperbolic threats to libs and libery, believe me.
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And let's not forget for the intellectual right of 2017, the great Ann Coulter's epic literary fumble in Trump we trust.
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As a writer after 2020, the idea of trusting Trump to execute as opposed to his talents as a comedian, prophet, etc.
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was like, it was like putting your savings in Trump coin.
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So at the beginning here, Yarvin's just saying, look, we all know that Trump is an incredibly gifted speaker.
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Many people have pointed that Trump has impeccable comedic timing, a very good stand-up comedian, if nothing else.
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And a lot of people, of course, recognize these strengths in Trump, but he's said all this stuff before, right?
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Yes, started out, you know, did do some great stuff.
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Obviously, ultimately, immigration was down under Trump, had a solid economy.
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Certainly would rather have had, you know, America kind of under Trump than under Biden.
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But he didn't make the big changes to the system, right?
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And he got really sidetracked, really sidetracked with the Russiagate stuff,
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all of the kind of propaganda and all of the rabbit trails that the left was able to take him down on a regular basis.
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It worked very well to distract him from what was going on.
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On top of the fact that Trump often seemed unserious in certain scenarios,
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it was more of a branding opportunity when he was doing a lot of the work that he was doing,
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rather than it seemed like he was hoping for a long-term change.
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In many ways, it felt like Trump just didn't expect to win his presidency any more than anyone else.
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And so when he went in, you know, a lot of his transition team didn't get confirmed.
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A lot of the establishment Republicans stabbed him in the back.
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It was just very clear that he was not fully prepared for the level of pushback he was going to get.
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He thought he would be elected to the presidency if he thought he would be elected at all.
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And then once he had that, then he could do what he wanted.
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And eventually what he discovered was actually there's an entire machine behind the presidency
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that radically changes the way that you kind of have to interact with the government.
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You don't actually own the executive branch unless you go in and force that.
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Like the executive branch is a remnant of all the other presidents that came before the deep state.
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So unless you're going to go in there and really root and branch, rip out a lot of this stuff,
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These are all things that Trump experienced early on.
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And given the fact that, you know, Trump made a lot of these foibles,
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You can understand why a lot of people were skeptical.
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People right up until Trump's election were still telling me
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Look, I had the concerns that Curtis is expressing here, right?
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I had the exact same concerns that ultimately Trump was going to talk a big game,
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but he wasn't going to make those promises real.
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However, my point was always, you still need to back Trump for multiple reasons.
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This is the way that the GOP voters are going to vote no matter what.
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If you talk to your average conservative, especially, you know,
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like Fox News conservatives, very active, they were very pro-Trump.
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They were very, very pro-Trump, and they were going to vote for Trump no matter what.
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He was the most likely person to send the media into an insane spiral
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and have them blow up and discredit themselves as much as possible.
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Now, people said, well, he did that the first time around.
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That was his whole function, but that is done now, right?
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We can go to someone more competent like DeSantis.
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But what we learned is actually, no, there was much more for the media to burn down.
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There was much more for the establishment to burn down.
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They still had not burned every bit of their credibility.
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They had still not entered the complete spiral.
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If you look now at how the media looks, you can tell.
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They're still, they're like racist, fascist, whatever.
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Not that it ever really did, but it has no grasp on the culture.
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Like, it is just not putting a speed bump between Trump and what he wants to do.
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So these are the reasons that I was like, even if Trump does nothing, the fact that the system will burn itself down to stop him and the fact that you're going to have a significant amount of the Republican voter base that's going to vote for him, no matter what you do, you should just be backing Trump.
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Because if you can move Trump into a more serious direction, if you can get better policy to him, better strategy to him, better, you know, follow through execution to him, then he's going to be the vehicle to really do this.
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Now, maybe he won't, maybe he'll fail on all this stuff, but if anyone's going to do it, it's going to be Trump.
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Again, early days, six months from now, Trump could completely fall apart, could lose all that, whatever.
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And that means that guys like Yarvin, who were very pessimistic about what Trump would do, have to change their tune.
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And it means, you know, guys like me, who were always in this, Trump, because he's the best option scenario, you know, are we completely, are we the super vindicated plan trusters as some are?
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But at the same time, you know, we're also, you know, not sitting here going, oh, well, even though Trump is elected, he's doing stuff, nothing ever happens.
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You know, the sensible centrists, I guess, once again.
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You've got all the things that you should believe about Trump, that you think you're going to be able to believe about Trump.
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And really, again, the importance of that assassination attempt cannot be properly expressed.
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The fact that that bullet basically changed the course of American history, and I really don't think I'm being dramatic in saying that, is huge.
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And so, yes, you had all these things you believed, and then that moment happened.
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Now, I think Trump probably would have been better no matter what.
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But I think Trump already knew more going into this presidency.
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He already knew the issues he was going to face.
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But that moment galvanized Trump in a way that just nothing else can.
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Like when you have a brush from death, when God literally saves your life, there's just a lot of clarity in that moment.
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Trump, whatever he was ready for before that was definitely, you know, he was made of steel after that.
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Again, always possible that momentum falls out.
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You know, always possible that he ends up walking away from that.
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But as of this moment, you can truly see that the momentum that was built into that one act, that one dodge of a bullet.
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Somehow, as too often happens, I was wrong, but not exactly surprised.
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As a pessimist by temperament, I find it important to be a pessimist by trade.
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Also, everyone else has to be a pessimist by logic.
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Pessimism optimizes tail risk optionality since you are either wrong or disappointed, but never both.
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For one thing, I owe some people, like Chris Rufo, an apology.
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I'm not sure if I bet him a bottle of scotch, but I owe him a bottle of scotch.
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So Rufo and Yarvin had this showdown in IM 1776.
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They had kind of traded barbs back and forth in different essays and things and, you know, videos and statements, Twitter, whatnot, previously.
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But they had this kind of complete knockdown drag out in IM 1776.
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I did a whole video on it, so I'm not going to recapitulate that here.
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Just to say that I think Yarvin's point to Rufo that he didn't understand some of the deep problems with his kind of narrative American history.
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However, as I said in the video, I thought Yarvin was too dismissive of Rufo, too dismissive of, you know, the amount of progress that could be made in different areas.
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And so I think they both had, you know, points that were valid.
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But Yarvin definitely was too dismissive of Rufo in that in that essay.
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And, you know, his point here was, look, you know, there are still big changes that need to be made.
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But it is very clear that Rufo had a point about the practical wins that you could take away from a Trump administration.
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And so he's saying, you know, look, you know, was I goading Rufo in some ways?
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Yes, but ultimately happy to see this execution.
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He's basically, you know, he had he had good humor about it.
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He said, look, you know, Yarvin and I, we encourage each other.
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You know, he Yarvin encourages me to aim higher and I encourage Yarvin to to kind of take practical wins.
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So it's it's praxis and theory working at the same time.
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These two different dynamics are going to have two different outlooks, even if they're working for relatively similar goals.
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And so it's good that Yarvin is there telling guys like Chris, hey, you need to be going after more.
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You need to have these giant goals that are going to completely remake the government.
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At the same time, it's good that Rufo is there saying, OK, but in the meantime, here are the battles we can win.
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There are practical things that we can do that will better the lives of people and secure power in the future.
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And we should not wait for this one grand sweeping thing.
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Rather, we should take wins where we can find them.
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And then once the the the grand sweeping thing comes, then we should do that, too.
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But, you know, as as Yarvin himself has pointed out, a win, a political win is one that makes the next win easier.
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And if your goal is to radically remake the American government in a positive sense, then you need to do so by securing power.
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Winning the election is only a very small step in that.
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And so to the extent that Trump can knock down the progressive patronage network, the degree to which it can knock down its control of education and and media and just the budget of the United States, foreign policy, then it should do that.
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Right. Even if it can't win the whole thing in one fell swoop.
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Now, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't be looking for how to win the whole thing.
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You know, you should be. And again, you can see this Trump digging down into the FBI, you know, getting rid of a large amount of FBI, FBI agents and heads that were involved in J6 and other prosecutions, Hunter Biden stuff like the fact that he is going through the DOJ and the FBI and rooting these people out is huge.
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Right. Is it a complete decapitation of the FBI? Is he completely destroying that institution?
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Not yet. And I think ultimately that would be wise.
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But the fact that he is just making these changes is is a incredible, incredible win and could be a precursor to bigger stuff.
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Either way, you need to be moving on this. Right.
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He's moving on deportations. He's moving on cutting down the progressive patronage network.
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But ultimately, the fact that these practical wins do exist means that something was wrong with what Yarvin was looking at.
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And so that that's why he wrote this essay. Right.
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You know, there's always there's always a temptation to double back, double down and say everything was right.
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You know, there's always these little exceptions. Oh, that over there means Trump isn't really making any changes.
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And, you know, that piece of rhetoric over there means the deep state is still in control.
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And and that thing over there means that the regime still really wanted Trump.
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But eventually you can you just look stupid if you don't recognize that you made a significant error.
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Right. And and Yarvin is is wise enough to say, OK, even even if there are many things I was right about, this is something I was wrong about.
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And it's worth writing a post to explain why for for another thing.
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If I'm wrong, it means there's something wrong with my model.
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There there isn't anything structurally wrong with my model.
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I don't think it's just that I kind of underestimated one of the forces that's been operating in it.
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That that force is the voltage differential of progressive ideology.
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All right. So Yarvin is saying here, look, I still feel like my model in general of political power is correct.
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However, there was a piece of the analysis that I was misunderstanding, that I was not taking into account, that I was not giving significant enough weight.
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So I'm not throwing the entire thing in. I don't think I graphed power completely incorrectly.
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I don't think elite theory is just garbage now.
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However, there is a piece of this puzzle that I did not properly assess.
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And because I did not properly assess this aspect going into my model, the model did not accurately predict what happened here.
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So there's a problem. But the entire model is it doesn't need to be thrown away.
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When 2020 happened and the 1970s new left dogma planted its flag in every American kindergarten, not to mention on every American wine aunt's lawn,
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it appeared to be the final victory of this century old aristocratic oligarchic movement.
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But most things are slick cyclical. Victory has a map of its own defeat and defeat of its own victory.
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No one is telling me I was wrong about the 2020 election.
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So he's saying, look, we saw this long march. We saw the ascendant progressive ideology.
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It took the route that Yarvin had explained, and it seemed to culminate in 2020, right?
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So in a way, it was kind of the end of his model.
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Okay, so you correctly predicted up to 2020. Good for you.
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That means there's probably something very important about your model.
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There's a reason that I was super interested in Curtis Yarvin leading up to and after the 2020 election,
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because I was like, this guy is explaining something very important.
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This guy has a grasp on something that I do not understand,
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and I need to understand what he's saying better so I can understand the world around me better.
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So in, you know, the 2020, Yarvin was right. Yarvin was accurate.
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His model worked properly, and we got the outcome he expected.
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And when you have that, then the expectation is, well, that will continue, right?
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I saw this correct prediction, and I can probably continue to apply this model unaltered and get an accurate result.
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But some things shifted. Some realities shifted on the ground.
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And that's important, too. When you're making predictions, when you're modeling, when you're analyzing,
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you need to be able to shift and accept new information.
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Otherwise, you'll get stuck, you know, in the scenario that Yarvin was kind of in here.
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And he says, so I think my model was solid up until 2020.
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We hope you're enjoying your Air Canada flight.
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Fast-free Wi-Fi means I can make dinner reservations before we land.
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The differential is the ideological difference between social classes.
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Once the luxury belief goes mainstream, the final station of Foucault's long march from
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the French literature department, it is useless as a marker.
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Unless something still more radical, voluntary human extinction maybe, comes down the pipeline,
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after the victory of the marker, there is no marker at all.
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Energy has to flow from high voltage to low voltage.
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Once everything is high voltage, so what he's saying here is you had this giant Foucault
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and all these other postmodernists, you had their march right through the institutions.
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It was the luxury belief that signaled your status, your marker.
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You were ascendant because you held these beliefs.
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They were edgy, they were different, they were deconstructive, they had to make their
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way through all of these powerful institutions.
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Part of the life cycle of these ideas is they are ascendant because they are trendy.
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Because not just that they hold power in and of themselves, though they do, but because
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they signal your role inside the leadership coalition, where you stand in society.
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If everybody's doing what the popular kids are doing, it stops becoming popular, right?
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You're pretty familiar with this phenomenon, right?
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Something is high class, it's edgy, it exists out in kind of these elite areas, and then it
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filters down and it becomes a little more mainstream.
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They start adopting these beliefs or these clothing or whatever it is, right?
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Whatever the trendy thing is, and eventually your mom's doing it.
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By the time when Facebook first came out, I'm old, I'm ancient.
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I remember when you needed a college email to be on Facebook, right?
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And that gave it a specific air of being elite.
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Because if you were in a college, that was a big deal.
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I mean, less so today, but it was a status marker, right?
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And so the fact that only college kids accessed it meant that there was this trendy, influential
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demographic that had access to this thing, and that's what made it a big deal, right?
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By the time your grandma is poking people on Facebook, a Facebook membership is gross, right?
00:27:50.840
It's like, oh, well, that's what old people do.
00:27:57.500
And so once these ideas had gone through their Facebook process, right, where they used to
00:28:02.380
be big, it was exclusive to the universities, only people who were going to be in elite
00:28:10.240
But once it had trickled down and made its way through basically everything, including the
00:28:14.320
most boring companies and HR divisions and the government and education, everything else, once
00:28:21.180
the most boring people in the world, the most low status people in the world were echoing
00:28:25.780
these beliefs, all the, all the voltage is gone.
00:28:33.000
All the luxury belief ability to mark you as high in status is gone.
00:28:41.220
Well, so does a middle school teacher who cares, right?
00:28:44.920
Like at some point it just no longer has that transgressive high status quality.
00:28:50.420
And that's part of what he's talking about here.
00:28:54.240
Anti-racism, for instance, is no longer a marker.
00:28:57.380
Hick preachers in Arkabama are even anti-racist.
00:29:01.440
As you can see, the evangelical church sadly has decided that now is the time to jump and
00:29:12.780
You can, you can read like Megan Bashman's, uh, book about that.
00:29:16.380
Um, but, uh, but they've decided that now they're going to die on this hill.
00:29:20.240
We even see, uh, several, uh, you know, conservative, uh, uh, you know, uh, Christian leaders, uh,
00:29:29.200
Um, but yeah, like he said, like this, this is losing its, its, uh, its cultural cachet.
00:29:39.380
We may move on from the, uh, uh, we may move on from anti-racism.
00:29:47.900
There are no cool teenage parties of the only nine anti-racist skater kids in Oxford,
00:29:58.940
When there's no differential, there's no energy.
00:30:01.440
The structure created by the energy remains, but there's no force that maintains them rather
00:30:13.840
The, they are husks without the power to defend or restore themselves.
00:30:21.860
With, with too many people lined up, uh, on this ideology, there was just no interesting
00:30:28.400
There, there was, there was no real, uh, status to be gained by having these positions anymore.
00:30:34.380
They were fashionable and then they fell out of fashion and, you know, because everyone
00:30:39.520
Like, again, once your grandma is spouting it, once, once, if your entire job is a, a, a,
00:30:45.100
a elite liberal, uh, coastal, you know, person is to look down and spit on middle America
00:30:50.980
and the middle America has all these same beliefs.
00:30:55.200
Like there's no, there's no, uh, status to be gained.
00:31:06.540
I was wrong because I imagined Trump 47 taking like Trump 45, small performative steps to untangle
00:31:14.140
the obvious Gordian knot standing between the chief executive and his actual constitutional
00:31:19.460
control of the executive branch long since hacked by Congress through a bizarrely micromanaged
00:31:24.940
appropriations process, which certainly does not resemble 18th century, uh, the 18th century
00:31:30.540
idea of power of the purse itself, a dubious innovation dating back to Puritan law fair in
00:31:38.620
And if Puritan, and if Puritans in the early 17th century found it useful, that, uh, definitely
00:31:44.520
means we need, uh, to, uh, reverence, uh, reverence it.
00:31:48.280
So he's just saying, look, I just didn't think that 47, you know, that Trump's second term was
00:31:54.760
I don't think he was really ready to take back the power into the executive branch.
00:31:59.720
I think that the Congress was going to continue to control and the deep state was going to continue,
00:32:10.280
The constitution was made for men and not men for the constitution.
00:32:14.120
And in fact, it was made well because it is, uh, because it is starting to seem that what
00:32:20.460
article one, uh, can hack article two can hack right back as FDR tweeted.
00:32:26.280
There's a quote from FDR action in this image, action in this image, and to do this end is
00:32:32.720
feasible under the form of government, which we have inherited from our ancestors.
00:32:37.020
Our constitution is so simple and practical that it is possible, uh, that it's possible
00:32:42.020
always to meet extraordinary needs by change in emphasis and arrangement without loss of
00:32:48.720
This is why our constitutional system has proved itself the most superbly enduring political
00:32:58.740
So basically FDR is just saying here, look, the constitution, uh, it's malleable.
00:33:06.400
The language of the constitution isn't always clear.
00:33:08.780
It doesn't always give priority to specific powers and specific branches and specific areas.
00:33:14.500
And so therefore with a shift of emphasis on the different branches and procedures,
00:33:19.440
one can get the United States government to do more or less whatever you want.
00:33:23.720
Uh, and so you don't have to get rid of the constitution to basically have a revolution
00:33:27.580
inside the United States, which again, I've done a, a stream on this talking about the
00:33:32.700
five republics of the United States and why the fact that we don't change the constitution
00:33:37.440
whenever we change the rules of the constitution means that it feels like we have this continuous
00:33:42.700
government when in fact we have radically different governments all bearing the same name, which
00:33:48.500
Well, so a lot of conservatives think they're still being governed by the constitution as
00:33:52.600
it was instantiated in 1790, even though that itself wasn't our first governing document.
00:33:58.020
Uh, but what FDR is saying here is actually, that's a positive because, uh, really by just
00:34:02.880
moving things around a little bit, we can still be governed by constitutional government,
00:34:06.660
but do things in a very, very, very different way to the point where it almost feels like,
00:34:12.340
uh, it almost feels like, uh, we have a radically different, uh, thing, uh, back to the essay
00:34:18.980
Ultimately what killed the USSR, our weird Eastern cousin in the second half of the 20th century
00:34:24.620
was its loss of moral energy that communism inspired in the first half.
00:34:29.920
Not that communism was ever moral in the sense of being good, but moral in its morale.
00:34:36.120
As Napoleon put it in war, the more, uh, the moral is to the physical as 10 to one moral energy is the
00:34:45.920
So communism evil, but communists were very enthusiastic.
00:34:52.040
They thought they were doing something very different, groundbreaking, revolutionary.
00:34:55.980
But by the time you get to the late, uh, you know, Soviet union and other communist countries,
00:35:00.500
you can see that very few of them are still really holding to communism, a doctrine.
00:35:05.260
The, the, the idealism that this is going to be something that is going to change the world is
00:35:13.480
Uh, communism was a, was a failure, but it is one of many failures throughout history.
00:35:19.060
Uh, and, uh, you know, it really just went to the wayside and he said, you know, this is what
00:35:25.640
Like bad economics and everything else were terrible, but it was the fact that the regime,
00:35:30.240
the people in power just did not have moral energy anymore.
00:35:35.920
They were always evil, but the fact that they never even had the energy to compel, uh, their
00:35:41.200
own, uh, their own, uh, people to action really showed that they were at the end of the line.
00:35:47.960
The USG, the US government will outlast the USSR because at the top level, our constitution
00:35:53.720
deliberately fails to specify the precedent of its, uh, uh, precedents of its three
00:36:01.200
I don't have historical evidence that this design was intentional, but maybe we could
00:36:06.100
So he's saying, look, the fact that the constitution doesn't actually say that this has to be the
00:36:12.720
primary thing all the time means that it can shift its emphasis and therefore shift its moral
00:36:17.760
imperative while still maintaining its, uh, government governmental continuity.
00:36:23.520
So again, okay, we're, we're, we're radically shifting emphasis inside the United States.
00:36:28.480
We're, we're going to be less governed by, uh, this deep state and more governed by the
00:36:32.880
executive branch, but this is really, you know, in many ways, just to return to the constitution.
00:36:37.320
So we can change the emphasis, change the passion behind the constitution without abolishing
00:36:44.240
And this is what, uh, he's talking about the effect of these unspecified political semantics.
00:36:49.800
I didn't even perhaps the purpose is that of the dying Alexander's decision to hand down
00:36:54.700
his empire to the strongest control peacefully oscillates between the branches with the strongest
00:37:01.540
Therefore the government stays strong and keeps the country's country, uh, keep the, and keeps
00:37:24.140
They thought the key was restraining government power at all times in all places.
00:37:31.540
The, the, the, the federalist papers told us what actually restrains the power of government.
00:37:40.800
If one branch has all the ambition, if one political party has all the ambition, if one
00:37:45.840
side has all the ambition, then nothing checks them.
00:37:49.340
The words on the page in the constitution are not what checks their power.
00:37:53.280
It is the willingness of other branches and other parties and other constituencies to use
00:37:59.520
power to have ambition that actually checks the power of government.
00:38:05.940
You have this, whatever branch of government is most vital is most willing to express power
00:38:13.020
is most willing to flex its ability to make change.
00:38:16.640
That is the one that the constitution is going to allow to have its primary role because the
00:38:21.160
constitution doesn't specify a, well, uh, you know, all the time Congress is always the
00:38:25.640
primary branch will actually know that it's always judiciary branch, which is making the
00:38:30.080
Well, no, it's always the president that is taking strong executive action.
00:38:33.620
No, it allows for this interplay of different powers.
00:38:36.800
And so ideally ambition checks ambition, but that means you have to be willing to use power.
00:38:42.880
You can't just sit around and say, Oh boy, I got to have the smallest government possible
00:38:49.460
Again, I would prefer that the government does less.
00:38:52.100
I would prefer that robust communities states do more.
00:38:56.460
I'm not here saying, Oh, all I want is big government.
00:39:00.600
But I'm saying is making big government, the boogeyman making power.
00:39:05.660
The boogeyman has completely disabled the mechanisms in the constitution, which were there
00:39:11.980
to check the power of government in the first place.
00:39:14.440
You actually need a use of power by alternative branches, alternative constituencies, alternative
00:39:22.780
parties, if you want to check power, just simply saying, Oh, look, I look, man, I saw
00:39:28.120
it says in the constitution that you can't do that.
00:39:32.700
As we have already seen, uh, back to our essay here, things are happening in Washington
00:39:37.760
because the moral energy of the new executive branch is suddenly much greater than the moral
00:39:47.320
Once the vibe shift reaches a certain threshold frequency, I predict even the supple swing
00:39:56.040
As for the legislative branch, it's a is selected and B has a popular rating of 13%, none of which
00:40:04.900
We may say, we may ask of any political structure who would miss it.
00:40:09.420
So again, he's saying, look, the, the executive branch, Trump has come in.
00:40:14.560
He's all got the, a minute, uh, all the momentum.
00:40:17.200
He's willing to use his executive powers to start taking back his control of the administrative
00:40:23.880
When he says the administrative branch, he's saying that the executive branch has more or
00:40:27.480
less separated itself from the actual power of the executive.
00:40:29.880
But Trump is willing to take that back under his control and say, Nope, I'm firing the FBI
00:40:36.480
I'm firing a federal employees who won't come back.
00:40:45.980
If I need to, we are going to come in here and make changes.
00:40:49.040
And that momentum puts the administrative back branch, the administration on its back foot.
00:40:54.740
And it puts the, uh, the Congress, you know, it doesn't know what to do.
00:41:01.040
You know, Yarvin says, even once the administration starts stacking wins, I think even the judicial
00:41:05.740
branch is going to fall in line, uh, with what Trump is doing.
00:41:09.520
They've probably already had a, a favorable, uh, Supreme court, but all these other judges
00:41:16.100
Cause they're going to recognize that power is flowing one direction and everybody wants
00:41:22.160
The Republicans of the second half of the 20th century acknowledged FDR's regime or the
00:41:27.420
headless bureaucracy it became after FDR's death, the power of even democratic presidents
00:41:32.780
declined in the second half of the 20th century.
00:41:34.880
No successor, even LG LBJ had a fraction of FDR's discretion in gilding the state and the
00:41:41.440
nation or guiding the state and the nation had generally more moral, uh, morale than any
00:41:47.640
It could elect the personal qualities of the man didn't matter.
00:41:53.020
Even the sixties firebrand Reagan became a pussycat in the white house.
00:41:58.640
So he says, look after, uh, FDR created basically this Leviathan state in the administrative state,
00:42:08.140
FDR was the last guy who had the energy necessary to drive things forward with that branch.
00:42:15.140
And every president, even guys like Reagan, who were like fire breathers going in, even
00:42:19.860
guys like, uh, Nixon who fought hard, they ended up losing to the deep state.
00:42:24.720
They ended up either being, uh, removed by the deep state or basically, uh, taught to sit
00:42:33.720
And he says, uh, that's been the case up until Trump.
00:42:36.500
Um, but the power held by FDR's regime was a consequence of two things, competence and
00:42:47.500
That was then this is now Trump 47 is not cutting the Gordian, not not yet anyway, but
00:42:53.300
rather than untangling it gingerly, like a nineties Republican, as though it was electrified,
00:42:59.460
He is grabbing it with both hands and ripping out big hunks.
00:43:02.580
So he says, look, FDR had this regime that was very energetic and very competent.
00:43:09.480
Nobody has had it since, but Trump is coming in and no, he hasn't completely destroyed the
00:43:18.380
But the way he is attacking this thing is fundamentally different than the way that he
00:43:24.460
And definitely radically different than like a Trump, like a, uh, a Bush or, you know,
00:43:29.320
a Romney, if he had been elected or McCain, they would not have done this at all.
00:43:33.540
If anything, they would have been terrified to touch it for sure.
00:43:39.080
It turns out that the knot with ox cart attached has been hanging in Gordius's palace, uh, courtyard
00:43:48.100
The fibers were once springy, seem to have deteriorated to become brittle.
00:43:55.040
Now it's unclear that ripping out hunks of the knot will work.
00:43:58.460
For instance, rage, his, his suggestion about how to dismantle part of the deep state wasn't
00:44:06.260
I still think a substantial percentage of federal employees will take Trump's early retirement
00:44:15.620
Why just do nine months of severance after a lifetime of service?
00:44:19.300
Why not all four years, just go your silver, your silver will still be delivered without
00:44:27.220
So he just goes on and says he should, he should have gone all the way into my policy,
00:44:32.220
He should have done everything that I suggested.
00:44:34.020
I'm going to jog down here a little bit because, uh, this one's long and I want to be
00:44:39.080
Uh, but he basically says you, you should have just done my full plan, right?
00:44:42.320
I'm glad to see you implementing some of my plan, but why not just go whole, whole hog
00:44:46.700
in reality, uh, in the reality of government, uh, or sorry, the reality of government is
00:44:52.240
that there are three things, a things the government is doing that it shouldn't be doing
00:44:56.920
be things that the government isn't doing that it should be doing and see the things
00:45:01.180
that the government is doing and should be doing.
00:45:03.360
Anyone with the slightest experience of both Silicon Valley and Washington DC knows that
00:45:08.360
even when it comes to see the actual problem by far, the most efficient way to make an
00:45:13.860
efficient organization to solve an actual problem is to make a new one, not to fix an
00:45:21.680
The government proper doesn't do anything anymore.
00:45:27.480
The contractors and, uh, and, uh, grant work, uh, of the same, uh, on the same principle as
00:45:33.900
Silicon Valley companies, more or less top down command, not, uh,
00:45:38.360
not process based bureaucracy, but if to, uh, uh, paraphrase, I don't know that, uh, what
00:45:45.760
that is, the, uh, the contracts and grants are retarded and the problem is, uh, only made
00:45:52.240
So he's saying here, the government knows it doesn't work right at this point that, you
00:45:57.420
know, the, the, the best thing to do is just to get rid of what already exists and replace
00:46:03.740
And the fact that government has already embraced this because anything it actually wants to get
00:46:07.480
done, it just gives out to a contractor somewhere.
00:46:11.680
The government very rarely does anything, but make, uh, make jobs for democratic, uh,
00:46:17.540
uh, uh, uh, pay or, uh, clients, uh, and, uh, you know, basically control, uh, you know,
00:46:24.360
basically the media and all that stuff that that's what it does.
00:46:27.160
Its main jobs are indoctrination and, uh, make money for people who follow the democratic party.
00:46:32.620
It very rarely actually does anything it's supposed to do.
00:46:36.160
Anytime it really wants those things done, it contracts it out to some private business
00:46:42.240
Uh, there are many situations in which, uh, keeping the assets and personnel looking at
00:46:47.640
you, air traffic controllers of the old organization would make sense, but the whole system, why
00:46:52.480
would anyone want to govern America efficiently want to reuse it?
00:46:56.400
On the contrary, the first job of any new administration is shutting down the old system.
00:47:01.200
Another analogy, true top-down Washington, uh, or true top-down white house control of
00:47:07.780
the executive branch is like a bicycle that's been sitting outside in the rain for 80 years.
00:47:12.260
Previous Republican presidents, including Trump himself had picked it up, uh, posed with it,
00:47:17.620
uh, pretended to sit on it, actually, actually saw it, et cetera, but no one was actually tried
00:47:24.700
Uh, they weren't trying to ride FDR's rusty old bicycle.
00:47:33.420
It's fascinating to see Trump plus a small army of revved up nerdy zoomers try to actually
00:47:39.400
For all the reasons I said, it works much better than I expected, but, uh, couldn't we afford
00:47:47.120
Uh, wouldn't it be, uh, worth it, uh, for the paper route?
00:47:50.000
Uh, and so here he basically just says, it would be better if we just went ahead and
00:47:55.480
restarted this rather than trying to get the old thing to work again.
00:47:59.140
Uh, and he kind of goes back to giving some of his, uh, solutions.
00:48:03.120
You know, we should, we should just do as much as we can to buy out.
00:48:06.060
Uh, uh, but in the end, he's saying Trump's doing a good job.
00:48:09.580
Trump is attacking this in a way that no one else would.
00:48:12.240
Uh, he's trying to use the machinery that FDR had.
00:48:17.060
They've LARPed at one point or another, but they've never really, truly taken, uh, the
00:48:22.700
And for the first time, Trump is actually going to do it.
00:48:26.720
Does, does the old control command and control mechanism that FDR used, does it still actually
00:48:42.000
Maybe this won't work, but let's, let's start moving this again.
00:48:45.100
And if it doesn't work well, then we know, and then we have to replace it, but let's
00:48:49.160
at least see if the mechanisms of power that still exist, uh, can actually be, uh, rehabilitated.
00:48:56.400
They can be brought back to life by somebody who has the vigor, the vision, uh, has young
00:49:01.820
people working home, uh, with him who are, uh, trying to make these things better and,
00:49:08.060
And if it doesn't, well, then we can just, we can just redo this system, right?
00:49:17.240
Like I promised, I want to do a quick, uh, review of his book here.
00:49:21.340
Uh, this is gray mirror, uh, facile one, the disturbance, uh, Yarvin has promised this
00:49:28.360
book for a long time, his mirror for princes, uh, which is what like, uh, the prince is from
00:49:33.120
Machiavelli, uh, basically his version of this.
00:49:36.460
Uh, we finally got a volume, uh, he's apparently going to do four, uh, this is the first one.
00:49:42.920
And I got to say, uh, while I think, uh, if you've never touched Yarvin's work before here,
00:49:52.200
If you have read your way through unqualified reservations, I don't think there's a lot here
00:49:59.760
Uh, to be fair to Yarvin, his, the whole point is he's distilling everything he's written
00:50:07.500
He's trying to make it, uh, you know, cohesive.
00:50:10.820
And importantly, this is the first volume in which, uh, you know, it's, it's titled disturbance.
00:50:16.140
The point of this book is basically to tear up all of your preconceived notions about democracy
00:50:21.780
and, uh, its value and certain aspects of history.
00:50:25.900
And, uh, it does that well, but it doesn't do anything new that Yarvin didn't do across
00:50:31.660
several essays in, uh, unqualified reservations.
00:50:34.900
So if you've read unqualified reservations, if you already know that democracy might not
00:50:39.720
be the perfect, uh, you know, government system handed down to us, uh, from on high, if
00:50:45.500
you're familiar with the fact that many of your conclusions about history and, you know,
00:50:50.980
the last, uh, a hundred or 200 or 400 or, uh, yeah, a thousand years is wrong, uh, then,
00:50:58.940
Uh, the, the thing about this book is, uh, for those hoping that Yarvin would change his
00:51:05.200
style once he wrote a book would stop having kind of the, the rabbit trails and the illusions
00:51:14.600
If you found this essay with gray mirror, uh, you know, that we, I just read you, if you
00:51:19.480
found that difficult or off-putting, uh, you, you will not like this cause this is the
00:51:30.160
Uh, that said, I would say there are good insights in there.
00:51:35.520
I'm just saying, don't expect a, a lot of revelations.
00:51:39.680
If you have been following, uh, his look or his work for a long time.
00:51:45.820
Uh, that said, I expect the following works to have more new stuff in them.
00:51:52.860
Uh, you know, uh, uh, regime change was a book that came out, uh, uh, recently.
00:52:01.260
I'm, I don't know why I'm suddenly blanking on the gentleman's name who wrote it.
00:52:04.740
Uh, Patrick Deneen, there it is, Patrick Deneen, um, and, uh, Patrick Deneen's regime change.
00:52:12.300
I loved why liberalism failed, but regime change was really a book called regime change with
00:52:19.320
It didn't do anything that it said on the, on the wrapper.
00:52:22.600
Uh, this book does, this book does actually at least begin to address the problem of what
00:52:28.140
you would do, um, if you want to change a regime peacefully.
00:52:34.600
If you've read Yarvin's work, you won't find a lot of brand new stuff there, though.
00:52:38.500
Perhaps it is, uh, addressed at different angles that will help you better grasp it.
00:52:43.940
Uh, but, uh, again, if you, if you were looking for one comprehensive volume that gets rid of,
00:52:49.320
uh, the Yarvin isms, uh, and like, you know, makes it clear and precise and, uh, you know,
00:53:00.760
Uh, I would dare say that you might be better off picking up some of the, uh, picking up
00:53:06.080
the first, uh, you know, the first volume of his collected unqualified reservation stuff.
00:53:11.700
Uh, I think that actually probably lays things out better.
00:53:14.480
It's much longer, uh, but I think probably better overall.
00:53:17.560
Uh, that said, I am looking forward to subsequent volumes because I think they will dive into,
00:53:22.700
uh, more use, you know, more practical stuff that this was, this was, you know, your theories
00:53:28.200
of government are wrong, your theories of history are wrong and all of that's true.
00:53:31.260
But if you've read that with Yarvin before, then again, no, no big new information there.
00:53:38.380
So let's go over to the questions of the people here real quick.
00:53:45.840
Uh, and on reviewer says, uh, what prompted the Italian elite theorists to study the mechanics
00:53:54.940
Uh, well, that will depend on who we want to identify in the Italian elite school, right?
00:54:02.280
Uh, he was trying to address the problem of, uh, Italian independence.
00:54:06.600
Uh, specifically, he was very skeptical of the power of the church.
00:54:10.000
Uh, but he was also, uh, in favor of uniting Italy because he saw United citizens, Sydney
00:54:16.220
city States as being kind of the future or not city States, nation States, uh, as kind
00:54:25.420
He wanted, uh, Italian, his Italian city state, uh, specifically to be able to defend itself
00:54:32.540
If you get to McHale's, he was looking at German workers parties.
00:54:36.500
Uh, guys like Pareto and Mosca were basically doing class analysis from the right, uh, you
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know, Mosca was doing, uh, I think more political analysis as where, uh, Pareto was doing sociology
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Uh, then you look at guys like Bertrand de Juvenal who aren't technically Italian, but,
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uh, you know, guys like me, we'll, we'll put them in with Italian elite theory.
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And, you know, he's somebody who, uh, is definitely trying to understand the problem of sovereignty
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and the way that it relates, uh, to, you know, uh, secular power and the church and all these
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So that's kind of a wide question with a lot of, uh, answers to it, but, uh, I'll just
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Cause I could prattle on about that for quite a while.
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Well, now I don't feel bad cause you're going to make me read something that, uh, is difficult.
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Uh, penumbra that, uh, even divinity, uh, divinity's edge rins, uh, keen unto the, uh,
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Uh, air I can, uh, wit folly to mine, my, uh, mine self.
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I don't know what, uh, what, what passage that was, but there we go.
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I made it through, uh, Cooper weirdo said, uh, what, uh, that Cthulhu swims left shirt
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Uh, doesn't Orrin, uh, tell you what you may, uh, you can, uh, you can make a dead Cthulhu
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Uh, so again, I don't think that the model is entirely inaccurate as Yarvin points out
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I don't think we're just throwing away, uh, all of Neo reaction.
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The fact that the, the administration itself is both putting, uh, many of Yarvin's policies
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into action and taking his understanding of the problem of the deep state and Burnham's
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wider, uh, problem of the managerial state, Sam Francis's, the fact that they are, they're
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putting these into play, I think means that there's a lot of the model that's correct.
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However, um, you know, there, there are adjustments that need to be made.
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I would say that the, the, the, uh, Cthulhu swimming left process that Yarvin explains
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and that land explains and that I explained to my book, the total state still applies.
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However, uh, that does not mean that conservatives can't win.
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That doesn't mean that the right can't win, which I, again, have explained in detail, both
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So I don't think that that truth is entirely gone, but I am certainly glad to see Cthulhu,
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Uh, Unmeal says, uh, hi, R, hey, Oren, uh, love your ability to break down complex ideas
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I enjoy going through all this, uh, even if sometimes I am reading clumsily on a live
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Uh, but, uh, like I said, it very, very good to break down some of these essays, post
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everything that has happened and understand, uh, where Yarvin feels he was wrong and how that
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applies to what we're going to be doing going forward.
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Uh, Cripper Weirdo says, good to see Yarvin apologize to Rufo, shows maturity in class.
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And yes, I do think this was a good move on Yarvin's part.
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Like I said, uh, it's very easy to double, triple down, bury yourself into the take bunker.
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Uh, but he said, look, adjustments need to be made.
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If I, you know, if I mispredicted something, I need to understand it.
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A tiny stupid demon says Rufo made a great point about the amazing amount of organization
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and preparation that must exist behind, uh, this, that few people saw coming.
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I look forward to the story that of that come, uh, coming out.
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And again, not only did there have to be a high degree of coordination, again, that elite
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coordination that we were looking for, that we were hoping for, not only did that have
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to exist, but it's amazing the amount of it that did not leak.
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Think about how leaky the white house has been and, you know, how leaky the Trump administration
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was, especially the first time around the fact that so many of these moves were done,
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Implemation or, uh, implement implementation, everything hit the ground running.
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It wasn't splashed all over the New York times.
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It wasn't, it wasn't, you know, uh, everywhere it was, uh, it was done well.
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Again, like you said, I'm, I, I'm interested in hearing that story, but I'm interested in
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hearing that story after the victories are won, right?
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We don't want to give away the plan at this point.
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Uh, you know, let, let them win, let them continue to execute.
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Um, uh, pseudo analysis, uh, or pseudo analyst says, this is the biggest black pill yet.
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Uh, I'm not sure how that, uh, that he won or they was wrong or he's wrong about the right
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I seem, seems pretty good to me, but, uh, I guess continue on with your black pill if
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Um, Ritha Gullican, again, sorry about the, uh, pronunciation there.
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One of the issues with our side is it's belief that Trump was not genuine and betrayed his
00:59:57.740
He failed true, but he tried and now he came and now he came ready.
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Also recommended, uh, talking to Tom Lungo or King Pilled.
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I am not familiar with Tom, but I'll, I'll see.
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Uh, but yeah, I, I think that ultimately, again, Trump is a flawed human being.
01:00:18.080
I want to make very clear Trump is suboptimal in many ways.
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Trump did fail, you know, uh, a good bit of his base early on.
01:00:26.960
However, you have to deal with the facts on the ground.
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The facts on the ground are that it seems like Trump does want what's best for America.
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Even if at times he can feel a little bit of cheesy, feel like a grift from time to time.
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Ultimately, whatever that is, it's better for America than whatever was running the deep
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So even if Trump is less than ideal, you know, you've got the platonic ideal of what a right
01:00:52.080
wing, uh, leader would be if he's not that, but he's much better than the alternatives.
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Like we're not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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And again, that, that, that failed assassination attempt, that bullet, I think changed everything.
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I think that brought us a very different Trump.
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I'm sure we would have gotten a better Trump this time around either way, but I think we got
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a truly, uh, hardened, a serious focus Trump, uh, because of this, which is a huge deal,
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He's still going to be doing a policy while he's doing golf, right?
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Like this doesn't mean he's spending over every day, you know, sitting up behind the
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But, uh, as, as serious and focused as Trump gets that way, that's what we got life of
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Brian says, uh, Kamala was clearly a job or one faction of the oligarch clearly wanted
01:01:46.160
Uh, I mean, okay, I think you're probably joking there, but I can't tell for sure.
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Um, uh, but yeah, my theory is that, uh, actually the deep state did not want to be destroyed.
01:01:56.660
The regime did not want its, uh, long-term power questioned.
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Uh, so any, any assertions that ultimately the regime wanted Trump, and this was all
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And that's why they put Kamala Harris out there.
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Cause they really were hoping that the leftist patronage network was destroyed and the fall
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of some foreign policy was reigned in and a large amount of personnel were cut at the
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He follows up and says, yes, he was being ironic.
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Life of Brian says, irony aside that 500 billion for the AI, uh, techno, uh, uh, dystopia grid
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A lot of money for dubious people, uh, Ellison, uh, Altman, et cetera.
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Uh, but that's, I believe, uh, but that said, yes, no, it is.
01:02:48.020
Again, I raised those questions on Friday with my, uh, show with, uh, Joe Allen from, uh,
01:02:53.960
war room if you want to check that out, but we got into the AI question.
01:02:57.280
I would agree that ultimately that is concerning.
01:03:01.120
It's part of the, part of the coalition, but, um, uh, but I, I do think that you have to be
01:03:08.860
Uh, pseudo analyst says as the DR idea ideas become more mainstream, our voltage differentiation
01:03:16.420
also gets destroyed and we were still getting mass Indian migration, continued abortion,
01:03:25.140
There's a lot of energy that came onto the scene because these ideas were getting adopted
01:03:29.800
because young, uh, exciting, uh, people were entering in to the administration and working
01:03:36.420
with Elon, uh, you know, these ideas are circulating a lot of energy.
01:03:43.160
But again, as Yarvin pointed out, it took 80 years for that to run down in, uh, FDR's
01:03:49.940
Do we have, do we not have as much energy as FDR?
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The American people seem to overall support them.
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Take the W, you know, plan for the future, continue to push to win.
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That doesn't mean, you know, give up or, or just, you know, go grill.
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It's not a problem, but like big things are happening.
01:04:23.420
Let, let, let's, let's let this play out before we entirely say, oh, well, I'm sure the
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energy will dissipate, you know, after week four, and then we'll just go back to business
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Uh, Torgo, the white says, uh, this is actually a splendid use of AI, which I guarantee Musk
01:04:40.220
Hey, Grok, based on these budgets, uh, what, uh, what does all this federal money flow to?
01:04:45.680
I mean, again, despite my concerns about AI, uh, the fact that it allows, uh, you know, someone
01:04:52.480
like Musk or just the general public to go through an entire congressional spending bill,
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uh, to go through, uh, entire regulations, pick all this stuff out and have it, uh, site,
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Uh, to have, to have it differentiated, to have it all put in its different silos, uh, that
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Uh, sifted the fact that you can sift through all of this and, and find out where the money's
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going and what the plans are and where the power lies.
01:05:27.800
So, uh, while I, I am skeptical of AI, uh, you're right that it is being used for this.
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And, uh, that does allow us to bypass a large amount of lobbyists and, uh, congressional
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aides and all these other people who are obfuscating where the money goes, where the power
01:05:43.600
Um, limplier says, uh, Lindsay may swing his bay blade slowly, but it only swings right
01:05:52.480
The new Cthulhu, uh, and, uh, desert tour, uh, tortoise says, uh, what implications does
01:05:59.560
this have for Yarvin's other theories like proxy voting?
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I think that, uh, Yarvin would keep the proxy voting thing, right?
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Because that would only be the Republican party, the right, uh, in general getting
01:06:13.500
better at turning people out and continuing to secure victory, right?
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That that's Yarvin's entire point is that a victory is something that makes the next
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And so if you could implement something like the proxy vote, uh, then it would more reliably
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Uh, how does it apply to some of his others theories?
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I mean, uh, you know, uh, I don't think it probably directly applies to something like
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Um, but, uh, but, but, you know, there, again, we can see many of Yarvin's principles and
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practical, uh, solutions, uh, to the extent that he's offered practical solutions being
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reflected, uh, in, in kind of what the government is doing now.
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He's probably not going to get the CEO monarch making, uh, you know, small, uh, techno futuristic
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city States that he had written about directly off of this.
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However, if that's ever going to happen, well, you know, this is some step in the right direction
01:07:11.840
and either way, it's certainly a right, a step in the right direction for the country,
01:07:15.560
which is ultimately what we're looking for here.
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Maybe he's trying to produce exactly the, the right political, uh, system.
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My goal is to produce what is best for the American people.
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And so if it flourishes under, uh, the current system, fantastic.
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If it flourishes under, you know, the techno, uh, futuristic city state model, fantastic.
01:07:43.580
I want to see the people of my nation do well and prosper, uh, to the extent that that's
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And so, uh, I, I hope, uh, that we have, we create the, the political system that is best
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for that, but I am less married to a specific system.
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I think there are deep problems with democracy that ultimately it is unstable and that, uh,
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certainly the, the current formulation that we have is, is very unstable.
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So I, I'm worried about maintaining it exactly the way it was previously.
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However, as Yarvin points out here, uh, the, the, the shift in emphasis can allow for a significantly
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different government while technically operating under the same constitutional banner.
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And so perhaps for at least in this moment, that is the correct way to go.
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It doesn't mean you stop moving towards modes of governance that will be better ultimately
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for you and for, uh, you know, the rest of the country.
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However, uh, in the moment when your victories, right again, take win, take the victory, take
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He didn't think that Trump would take these steps.
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He still doesn't think that Trump is probably like the last guy needed to secure a victory
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However, more steps in the right direction than Yarvin predicted.
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All right, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.
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