The Auron MacIntyre Show - David French And The Conservative Case for Trans Kids

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00:01:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:01:37.800 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:01:39.860 I'm going to be doing one of these solo streams where I break down a piece.

00:01:43.440 Now, normally when I'm doing this, I'm looking at some kind of article or video from a avowed leftist, somebody who explicitly is on the progressive side, on the left side.

00:01:55.520 And we're breaking down their rhetoric, their frame, their use of language, the type of thing that dictates a lot of what goes on in our political discourse that sometimes people miss when they just dive directly into the argument and don't pay attention to the words, symbols, and general frame around what's going on.

00:02:14.900 But today we're going to be looking at someone who is theoretically right-wing.

00:02:20.640 Of course, a lot of people are going to say, David French, man, come on.

00:02:25.400 Everyone knows he's not right-wing anymore.

00:02:27.340 He hasn't been for a long time.

00:02:28.460 If he ever was, he is writing for the New York Times.

00:02:31.140 And all of that is fair, right?

00:02:33.020 David French is now famous for the joking, you know, the conservative case for, right?

00:02:38.060 Whatever horrific thing the left-wing is suggesting.

00:02:42.060 And that's where this title came from, of course.

00:02:44.680 So a lot of people will say David French knows what he's doing.

00:02:47.720 He's controlled opposition.

00:02:48.960 He's entirely a creature of the left.

00:02:51.780 And I understand why people would say that.

00:02:54.160 However, I do want people to understand that it's always worth trying to grasp the idea that your political opponents might mean what they say, right?

00:03:03.920 It's very easy to just say everyone is cynical.

00:03:06.580 Everyone is controlled opposition.

00:03:08.120 Everyone knows what they're doing.

00:03:09.780 Everyone is just completely Machiavellian.

00:03:13.340 But the truth is that almost everyone needs a moral justification for what they're doing.

00:03:17.860 And it's not always the case that you have to have a perfect theory of mind for your political opponents.

00:03:24.160 But it is often very useful because it allows you to make certain decisions, make certain arguments, understand what's going on.

00:03:31.940 And so it is worth understanding, I think, the mind of someone who thinks of themselves as some kind of centrist conservative,

00:03:39.000 some kind of principled conservative who's holding on to the idea of neutral institutions and kind of the neutral state.

00:03:49.120 They're just trying to avoid extremes of both sides of the culture war.

00:03:52.820 I do think it's worth taking a look at what they think, because even if you think David French is acting in bad faith,

00:03:59.780 I think he does represent a style of conservatism that still is out there.

00:04:05.560 The good news is that most people are walking away from this.

00:04:08.400 If you want a white pill for today, if you want a positive, encouraging thing to take away from today,

00:04:13.500 I think there's a reason that guys like this end up now at The New York Times, because they're safe.

00:04:20.760 They're in many ways controlled.

00:04:23.480 They're really just apostates paraded before the liberal audience to put their own opinions into conservative language to make them feel better about it.

00:04:31.400 But they don't really have a whole lot of sway on the Republican base.

00:04:35.120 However, these people do still have a decent amount of control over the conservative incorporated apparatus,

00:04:41.200 over the mainstream conservative apparatus, especially when it comes to people in the donor class.

00:04:47.880 And so I do think it is worth looking at the way they think, even if we can kind of say it's obvious that there are problems with what's going on here.

00:04:55.140 Now, I do want to say at the beginning, I'm going to try to be as fair to David French as possible in this,

00:05:01.320 even though I don't think he's very fair to his opponents.

00:05:04.680 I'm going to try to be very fair at the outset.

00:05:06.760 And I will say that David French has said that he opposes, in theory, gender reassignment for children.

00:05:16.460 He does oppose that.

00:05:18.260 However, as we're going to see in this piece, it doesn't really look like that in any kind of practice.

00:05:24.140 He does mouth the words that he opposes it.

00:05:26.740 But it looks like he doesn't oppose any action on behalf, and he seems to oppose every kind of protection that would be offered to children,

00:05:36.760 any kind of restriction on this kind of horrific behavior.

00:05:40.720 And so he technically, theoretically opposes it.

00:05:44.320 So I'm just going to state that at the outset.

00:05:46.060 I do not want to misrepresent or lie about the things that David French has said.

00:05:51.720 He has said that he does oppose this.

00:05:54.880 However, what he's going to say in here pretty much reads like the conservative case for trans kids.

00:06:00.640 And we're going to see all of the ways in which he's going to justify keeping the state out of the business of protecting children from this.

00:06:09.660 And so let's go ahead and dive in and take a look here.

00:06:13.440 So don't let the culture war degrade the Constitution.

00:06:16.720 Too late, first off.

00:06:20.720 And we'll see that's a lot of this piece is arguing horses that have already left the barn long ago.

00:06:26.740 But that is so often the case with conservatives who are still trying to cling to the idea that the constitutional order is well in force and is actually restraining government action.

00:06:38.980 It is not doing so.

00:06:40.720 It hasn't done so for a long time.

00:06:43.060 It doesn't do so specifically because people like David French actively oppose the government taking the steps necessary to impose any kind of order.

00:06:52.860 David French is one of these conservatives that believes that the Constitution just magically holds government power in check in perpetuity without any action or any embodiment by the people of the nation with the values that need to be transmitted through government institutions.

00:07:10.760 And we're going to see that he kind of just opposes that for the conservative movement at every moment.

00:07:15.460 But let's go ahead and dive in here.

00:07:17.680 So the Constitution of the United States, properly interpreted, provides a marvelous method of handling social conflict.

00:07:24.800 It empowers an elected government to enact even contentious new rules while protecting the most fundamental human rights of dissenting citizens.

00:07:33.940 Political defeat is never total defeat.

00:07:36.240 Losers of a given election still possess their basic civil liberties.

00:07:39.660 And the combination of rights to speak and the right to vote provides them with concrete hope for their preferred political outcome.

00:07:46.920 So as you can see here at the beginning, French is kind of just giving a very standard boilerplate idea of like what the Constitution is supposed to do, what liberal democracy is supposed to do.

00:07:59.020 Now, we'll notice a couple problems here at the outset.

00:08:02.020 So the first thing that French isn't going to really address is the fact that for the most part, the Constitution is supposed to do this inside a society where people largely agree, where people largely share values, where people largely share culture, and where most disagreements are relatively culturally mild.

00:08:23.060 That's when the Constitution is at its strongest, when it can kind of assume a background agreement on most issues of morality, most issues of value.

00:08:36.000 Everyone has a general, similar, common viewpoint.

00:08:39.460 And really what the government is doing is enacting small policy changes and tweaks that could, you know, have a direction one way or another.

00:08:48.100 We're now existing in a reality where the difference is, do we want people to have some kind of family?

00:08:56.600 Do we want people to be able to have some kind of protection for children?

00:08:59.460 Do we want people to have a general Christian understanding of morality, or should people be allowed to mutilate their children if the child wakes up some time, you know, when they're 8 or 10 or 12 and decides that maybe they want to be a girl tomorrow?

00:09:14.160 That's a radically different type of value.

00:09:17.560 This is a vast gulf.

00:09:19.500 And this is not to say there weren't disagreements previously, of course, in the United States, but this is a moral basis.

00:09:26.560 This is a conflict of moral visions that is just radically different on every level.

00:09:31.220 Now, of course, there have been, there have been conflicts in the United States that have been almost this radical, conflicting moral visions that have been this radical.

00:09:41.360 But democracy did not contain them, right?

00:09:43.720 Like, you look at the Civil War.

00:09:45.660 Now, the Civil War is obviously a very contentious issue because most people are going to identify it with slavery.

00:09:50.780 And that they're going to say one side was obviously morally correct and obviously morally wrong.

00:09:55.260 Now, I don't think that's historically accurate.

00:09:57.180 Lincoln himself worked pretty hard to keep the Civil War from being identified with slavery until he needed it to be identified with slavery in order to keep, you know, European and other outside influences from recognizing the Confederacy and contributing to or trading with the Confederacy.

00:10:15.560 And so slavery was more of a political football in many ways in the Civil War, though it obviously was an underlying cause, an underlying tension there for sure.

00:10:25.140 You can't just ignore it.

00:10:26.140 But the point is that no matter how you feel about whether Lincoln was or was not centering that as the cause of the Civil War, the point is that that situation was not mediated by democracy.

00:10:40.620 That this thing that was originally put in kind of the, you know, in the broom closet by different agreements like the, you know, three-fifths agreement in the Constitution, the three-fifths compromise in the Constitution, things like that, that initially put those very contentious issues in the closet, eventually could not contain them, right?

00:11:02.060 Democracy could not actually control that issue and over time, not just that issue, but the many, many differences in cultural values and cultural traditions between different regions of the United States became so vast and so unnegotiable that eventually democracy could no longer solve the problem.

00:11:22.260 And so we're looking at something that's not even necessarily true in American history, that this has not necessarily regularly allowed one set of people to make vast changes to the American system, and another set of people who are radically disadvantaged by that will just eventually wait until they can get their turn of the Democratic wheel.

00:11:45.260 No, what we understand is that over time, people in charge tend to build systems that allow them to, that allow them to manipulate the democratic process and ensure that they will continue to be the winners in any given contest.

00:12:00.620 And people understand that at some point, they've been backed into a corner by people who have decided to seize all of these different institutions and all these different processes in order to hedge themselves against any kind of actual democratic backlash.

00:12:16.020 And so we're going to see that French is just going to ignore this the entire time because it's, of course, in his interest to ignore the fact that this is a active part of democratic politics all the time, but a very active part of our system today, one that is ensuring a particular political outcome that French never wants to acknowledge, right?

00:12:35.340 But if government both enacts contentious policies and diminishes the civil liberties of its current ideological opponents, then it sharply increases the stakes of political conflict.

00:12:46.640 Well, that is absolutely true, right?

00:12:49.700 If the government is, is enacting contentious policies and diminishing the civil liberties of its current ideological opponents, then it will increase the, uh, the stakes of the political conflict.

00:13:01.820 The only problem is, again, this is happening right now, and this is not something that the right started, right?

00:13:09.120 This is not something that the right started.

00:13:11.060 If you lose an election, then you have a very serious chance that the opposing party will completely alter the way the voting happens or will completely open the borders, radically shifting the democratic demographic makeup of your country and shifting the voting of your country on purpose.

00:13:31.300 And that it's not, it's not a, it's not a conspiracy theory.

00:13:33.880 It's not a wild accusation.

00:13:35.560 You can literally just play like Matt, an hour of footage of leftists saying exactly that writing entire articles about exactly that, about these different ways in which they are shifting the ability of their political opponents to properly engage with this.

00:13:50.860 We also know for a fact that places like the, or that agencies like the FBI and the, uh, Department of Homeland Security and other agencies inside the federal government actively work with, uh, with private corporations.

00:14:07.680 To steer elections, to impact elections, to impact the information that is available to the public in order to sway a particular political outcome.

00:14:17.800 So when you lose an election and you don't have any ability to regulate or staff those institutions, those institutions become filled with your enemies and then your enemies ensure that you can't win elections.

00:14:30.880 And so the political stakes are already incredibly high, but again, French is never going to mention any of this.

00:14:37.060 He's never, he's going to ignore this entirely.

00:14:38.960 He's going to act as if the constitution just operates all by itself.

00:14:43.260 It's just, it's hermetically sealed in some kind of time vault.

00:14:46.380 Uh, no humans have to apply it.

00:14:49.180 No shifting values, no shifting norms, never going to acknowledge any of that.

00:14:53.620 Always going to just be about the theoretical civil liberties that are existing out in the ether somewhere.

00:14:58.820 No actual practical application in the real world.

00:15:02.100 It breaks the social compact by rendering political losers in effect, second class citizens.

00:15:07.040 And again, this is already happening.

00:15:09.560 Okay, how many Bible believing Christians, how many people with traditional values can espouse those values at work without getting fired?

00:15:22.160 Especially if they're government employees.

00:15:24.020 In fact, particularly if they're government employees, this isn't just, oh, it's a private company can have its own standards.

00:15:28.520 No, if you espouse the viewpoint of a Bible believing Christian or Orthodox Christian, you're going to get fired.

00:15:37.380 You're going to get blacklisted.

00:15:38.460 You're going to get, you can, you can possibly lose your ability to do things like a bank, right?

00:15:45.100 That we've seen this happen to people.

00:15:46.620 So pretending that there is not some incredible cost to losing elections already, pretending that we already, we don't already have a second class of citizens being created in the United States of people who have lost politically is ridiculous.

00:16:03.060 But of course, he's going to pretend like none of this has already happened on the right.

00:16:07.000 It is, we're just on the edge of this.

00:16:08.340 If the right fights back at all, then this could happen, right?

00:16:11.960 A culture war waged against the similarities of your political opponents inflicts a double injury on dissenters.

00:16:16.900 They don't merely lose a vote.

00:16:18.520 They also lose their share of freedom.

00:16:20.160 Again, all of that is true.

00:16:22.100 It's just that it already happened.

00:16:23.660 This is not something that is being advanced by the right because it finally decided to fight back.

00:16:30.620 What's happening is well downstream of many decades of this process of the left rewarding its friends and punishing its enemies at every opportunity.

00:16:43.280 Every victory is a chance to reward its friends.

00:16:45.960 Every victory is a chance to take something from its enemies.

00:16:49.660 The left has been doing this for a very long time because they understand that this is what politics is about.

00:16:55.300 But again, French is not going to ever acknowledge that during this.

00:16:59.860 That's exactly what's happening now.

00:17:01.600 The culture war is coming for American liberties and red and blue states alike.

00:17:05.800 Of course, it's got to be both sides.

00:17:07.540 We've got to do the old, the old both sides at every opportunity.

00:17:10.380 The examples are legion.

00:17:13.900 Let's start with America's progressive threshold, stronghold.

00:17:16.920 Now, he's going to talk about what the left is doing here.

00:17:19.700 I was going to skip through this, but again, I want to be fair to French.

00:17:23.040 He is going to give both sides of this.

00:17:24.860 He's going to chide the left a little bit here.

00:17:27.380 So we might as well go ahead and read it.

00:17:29.040 It's not very long.

00:17:30.120 He's going to spend most of his time attacking the right because, you know, this is what we do.

00:17:33.300 Fig leaf of, oh, yeah, I'm a conservative.

00:17:36.500 I'm against some of the things the left are doing.

00:17:38.080 I'll put a whole paragraph in and then jump to, you know, all the bad things that the

00:17:42.320 right are doing.

00:17:42.800 But we'll jump in here for a second and give him his due.

00:17:46.560 On Wednesday, Governor Gavin Newsom announced that the state of California would not renew

00:17:51.300 a multimillion dollar contract with Walgreens, not because Walgreens had failed to comply

00:17:56.040 with its contractual obligation, rather because it had responded to Republican legal warnings

00:18:01.400 and decided not to dispense an abortion pill in 21 red states.

00:18:05.320 Newsom used his political power to punish a corporation he opposes weeks early.

00:18:13.080 Yeah, so we'll just stop there.

00:18:14.740 So interesting, you know, Newsom doesn't want to do business with Walgreens because it listened

00:18:20.720 to Republicans, right?

00:18:21.940 So he's publishing.

00:18:22.940 He's saying we're not going to spend public money with a corporation that we don't agree

00:18:29.780 with.

00:18:30.100 I actually think that's up to him in this case.

00:18:33.280 I disagree with him vehemently, of course, but it is the public's money.

00:18:37.780 And if they don't reflect the public values of California and you're for democracy, then

00:18:45.120 it's weird that you want the public's money spent with a corporation that they disagree

00:18:50.540 with.

00:18:51.160 I would be interested to see how David French feels about similar laws.

00:18:57.360 There are some laws like this, even in Florida, actually, with the census, when it comes to

00:19:02.740 Israel, right?

00:19:04.240 Against the boycott, divestment movement, whatever, explicitly saying we don't do business with

00:19:10.340 any business that doesn't do business with Israel.

00:19:12.420 So I would be interested to see what David French feels about that.

00:19:17.420 Maybe maybe he's spoken out against it.

00:19:18.980 Maybe he has to his credit.

00:19:19.920 I genuinely don't know what his position is on that, but I would be interested if if he's

00:19:26.160 consistent across the different parties that would apply to a weeks earlier, federal judge

00:19:31.980 blocked enforcement of a new California law intended to combat medical disinformation,

00:19:36.780 because the state's definition of the term was so vague that it couldn't survive First

00:19:41.520 Amendment scrutiny.

00:19:42.380 This ruling came on the heels of multiple adverse rulings against California at the Supreme

00:19:47.500 Court.

00:19:47.920 In 2018, the court struck down California's rule requiring pro-life centers to publish

00:19:52.040 information about free or low-cost abortions.

00:19:54.840 During the pandemic, the court repeatedly rejected California public's health regulations that

00:19:59.460 discriminated against religious worshipers.

00:20:01.560 And in 2021, the court invalidated a mandatory donor disclosure law that violated court

00:20:06.580 precedents that dates back to the civil rights era.

00:20:09.220 So again, you know, credit to French where he's due.

00:20:12.360 He is talking about the excesses of the left here and the ways in which that the courts have

00:20:17.280 pushed back.

00:20:18.300 California is not alone in its efforts to suppress constantly protected rights.

00:20:22.060 Late last month, the court appeals for the court of appeals for the second court held that

00:20:28.340 New York's so-called boss bill, which prohibits employers from discriminating against employees

00:20:33.280 on the basis of their reproductive health making decisions may violate the expression, the

00:20:38.980 expressive associational rights of pro-life organizations that require employees not to

00:20:43.940 have abortions and refrain from extramarital sex.

00:20:47.600 So again, pushing back against the idea that a Christian organization could refuse to hire people

00:20:53.020 who aren't Christians or who don't have Christian values, don't espouse Christian values.

00:20:57.200 So again, you know, credit to French where it's due.

00:21:01.740 He is addressing that aspect of the left that they are attacking the rights of people to

00:21:07.960 practice religious selection of association rights.

00:21:12.840 Again, I've got a feeling that French isn't a huge fan of freedom association in other areas,

00:21:18.140 but I don't know his stance on that.

00:21:22.240 I don't know that he's ever espoused in any particular direction.

00:21:24.520 So I don't want to just go ahead and, uh, guess at that right now, but no, I'm not letting

00:21:31.300 red America off the hook.

00:21:32.300 Don't worry, David.

00:21:33.040 We, we weren't under the impression that you would, uh, the educational culture wars are

00:21:37.740 inspire, inspiring a host of educational gag orders across the States that purport to block

00:21:42.820 advocacy, a disfavored ideas about race and gender.

00:21:47.720 Uh, many of those statutes are aimed at K through 12 education where the government has considerable

00:21:52.960 control over teacher speech, but others are aimed at speech in public universities and private

00:21:58.160 corporations where states have much less control.

00:22:01.020 Indeed, a federal court has already, uh, blocked enforcement of Florida's so-called woke act

00:22:06.760 to the extent that it limits free expression of public campuses and private boardrooms.

00:22:12.160 So again, the K through 12 system, of course, is entirely under the purview of the state.

00:22:19.440 The state determines what's what the, uh, curriculum is going to be, if not directly in each individual

00:22:27.340 school district district by its statewide standards.

00:22:30.040 Right.

00:22:30.440 And so statewide standards are going to more or less dictate what you can say in a classroom,

00:22:36.780 what you can teach in a classroom, what the agenda is going to be in a classroom.

00:22:41.040 Right.

00:22:42.000 And what he's not going to address multiple times again, this it's always, what's not said

00:22:48.320 here, right, is the fact that while he might want a scenario where teachers just teach whatever

00:22:56.640 they want or professors teach whatever they want and students say, whatever they want, that's

00:23:01.600 already the scenario we don't have, right?

00:23:04.100 It's not Florida's law that is making that not even the case.

00:23:08.920 I mean, Florida's law literally only covers up to third grade when it comes to grooming.

00:23:13.960 So by fourth grade, you can teach whatever gender ideology stuff, garbage, right?

00:23:18.760 It is only covers K through third grade.

00:23:21.760 If you cannot restrict yourself.

00:23:24.040 From going on and on ad nauseum about the need to explore your sexuality to a child, then you

00:23:31.880 really shouldn't be anywhere near children and you should probably be behind bars, right?

00:23:36.440 If that's so desperately important to you, then society should really probably be watching out,

00:23:43.240 you know, for, for where you're at in general.

00:23:45.880 Right.

00:23:46.760 But the point that David's always going to ignore is that the things that teachers teach

00:23:54.040 are not dictated just by, uh, some state law, right?

00:23:59.800 It's the, the standards that are already created by the state are going to restrict what teachers

00:24:05.720 can say the curriculums that are delivered, the materials, the books, the worksheets, the videos,

00:24:12.040 all that stuff is already going to have a particular outlook in it.

00:24:15.480 Right.

00:24:16.120 And then when you look at something like what is taught to, to teachers themselves, what

00:24:21.160 educational, uh, programs in different universities impress upon teachers, it's all radically left-wing.

00:24:29.320 It's all radically left-wing guys.

00:24:31.640 And, and I can tell you this because I taught, I know, I know what's going on here.

00:24:36.200 All of this stuff, even in super conservative states like Florida is radically left-wing.

00:24:41.800 Okay.

00:24:42.600 And so the, even, even these states that have these restrictions are still teaching an incredibly

00:24:48.200 woke curriculum.

00:24:50.040 Uh, and, and French is never going to acknowledge this, right?

00:24:54.120 There are plenty of things already that as a teacher, you cannot teach and you cannot say

00:25:00.600 because they will get you fired.

00:25:01.960 And that has nothing to do with the wokeness act, the stop woke act, right?

00:25:06.120 If you're in a high school, even in a very right-wing state, are you even allowed to teach the idea

00:25:15.800 that maybe the civil war wasn't primarily about slavery?

00:25:19.320 You might get away with that one a little bit.

00:25:21.160 But when you get to all kinds of other topics in the curriculum, there's one acceptable narrative,

00:25:44.440 right?

00:25:44.840 Is anyone, is anyone teaching a high school class in, even in the most right-wing state

00:25:50.520 in the United States in a public school where they teach that say, you know, the crusades

00:25:55.880 were defensive wars by, by, by Christendom against Islamic aggression.

00:26:02.760 Can you teach that?

00:26:04.360 Will you, will you survive as an employee of the state?

00:26:08.440 If you teach that, if you, if you teach that the Spanish recon, uh, reconquista

00:26:14.920 was a battle against, I don't know, the vast sexual slavery practiced by the Muslims of Al-Andalus.

00:26:23.880 Is that a narrative you're allowed to espouse?

00:26:26.840 Even in a right, in the most right-wing, uh, state in the union, right?

00:26:31.800 Are you allowed to provide any context for these things?

00:26:35.160 No.

00:26:35.720 Right.

00:26:36.280 But again, French is going to avoid all of this, right?

00:26:38.680 Maybe mostly because he probably agrees with all the narratives taught in public schools

00:26:42.920 by leftists, right?

00:26:44.920 And that's the thing is that they're always going to ignore what's already baked in.

00:26:50.840 They're already going to ignore what's baked in, right?

00:26:54.040 They're already going to ignore the fact that people, uh, are, are basically forced to teach,

00:27:00.840 uh, a very left-wing agenda, even in the most right-wing school.

00:27:05.000 And they're only going to address, it's only the formalization

00:27:08.600 of restriction that will trigger French.

00:27:11.560 The, the, the private sector for French can do anything.

00:27:16.120 And even if the private sector in this case means like public universities, right?

00:27:21.320 The, the, they're not private, but it doesn't matter.

00:27:23.720 He says the state has no interest in saying, Hey, we don't want like lies taught to kids.

00:27:29.800 We don't want things that destroy the identity of children that destroy

00:27:34.200 the innocence of children.

00:27:36.680 We don't want that taught to kids.

00:27:38.440 He's going to say, that's not okay.

00:27:39.960 That's curtailing the free speech of teachers, but the teachers don't have free speech.

00:27:45.800 They don't have it at all.

00:27:49.080 All right.

00:27:49.400 Florida is one of the hotspots of right-wing censorship and punitive government.

00:27:54.200 It passed an unconstitutional law to control social media moderation in, uh, in the state.

00:28:00.440 And governor Ron DeSantis took direct action against Disney after the, uh, company, uh,

00:28:05.000 objected to Florida's house bill 1557, which tightly regulated classroom instruction on

00:28:10.600 sexual orientation or gender identity.

00:28:12.920 So a couple of things here, a couple of things that again, we're gonna, we're not just not going

00:28:17.480 to acknowledge in this argument at all.

00:28:19.640 First, if you click on this link, this, it passed an unconstitutional law link.

00:28:25.080 What you'll find is that that law stopped social media companies from banning politicians.

00:28:32.760 So the law that he's talking about that is theoretically unconstitutional is a law that

00:28:38.520 kept social media companies from banning politicians that they don't like.

00:28:42.600 That stopped politicians from using free speech to reach their voters with their message.

00:28:49.800 Now, David French is supposed to be such a huge proponent of the democratic process, right?

00:28:56.120 He's got so much faith in the ability of the democratic process to restrain the excesses

00:29:03.640 of the government and the, and the wider culture.

00:29:08.920 Except he doesn't like any protection of that speech.

00:29:12.920 He's not willing to acknowledge that private corporations have a vast control over the ability

00:29:19.240 of representatives to actually reach their voters and actually change what's going on.

00:29:26.280 And so when he says this unconstitutional law on social media moderation, what he's saying is

00:29:31.560 Florida tried to make sure that people can hear their elected representatives and communicate with them

00:29:38.120 and that the democratic process, which French reveres so highly can go on as it's supposed to.

00:29:44.440 But again, no pressure, only the formalization of protections are the problem for French.

00:29:51.000 He's never willing to address the actual attacks of people like social media on

00:29:57.800 the democratic process, which he reveres so highly.

00:30:00.120 And again, you notice that he's not going to say anything here about the fact that he knows that

00:30:04.280 we know for sure, we have the Twitter files.

00:30:06.440 We don't have to speculate.

00:30:07.400 It's not a wild conspiracy theory.

00:30:09.320 He knows that social media companies, these private corporations are working hand in glove

00:30:17.480 with the intelligence community, with federal law enforcement to punish American citizens and

00:30:23.880 American politicians for their viewpoints, to censor them, to stop what they label misinformation.

00:30:30.200 He knows this, right?

00:30:31.880 But again, we're just going to get a quick link and just, oh, it's unconstitutional.

00:30:35.080 And he just moves on as if there's no problem here.

00:30:37.400 Right?

00:30:38.920 So then we move on to Disney, right?

00:30:43.240 If the right is going to condemn Newsom's action against Walgreens, shouldn't it also

00:30:47.800 oppose DeSantis's attack on Disney?

00:30:50.440 No, here's why.

00:30:51.720 Okay.

00:30:52.360 He's going to ignore all the particulars about what Disney did here.

00:30:55.800 He's going to ignore all the details about what actually happened in the scenario.

00:30:59.560 Oh, one corporation was disfavored.

00:31:03.240 Another corporation was disfavored.

00:31:05.240 Same thing.

00:31:05.720 No, they're not.

00:31:07.000 No, they're not at all.

00:31:08.280 So what did Disney do here?

00:31:10.200 First, actually, at first, Disney didn't do anything.

00:31:14.040 At first, Disney did not care about this bill.

00:31:16.120 Okay.

00:31:16.600 But what happened, what the left is so good at, and what French is, of course, going to

00:31:22.680 ignore entirely, is the ability of the left to use the manipulation of voters and the manipulation

00:31:29.240 of media and the manipulation of activists in order to drive particular concerns.

00:31:35.160 So what happened with this is the left went out there and it riled up all these accusations

00:31:39.480 against Disney.

00:31:40.200 Oh, you don't care about LGBT people.

00:31:42.440 You don't care about what's hacking.

00:31:43.960 You care more about your profits than you care about the rights of whoever.

00:31:47.720 And they said, you, and they said, you have to get involved in this.

00:31:50.600 And so Disney, which hadn't taken any particular stance against what Florida was doing was

00:31:55.960 suddenly spurred by activists to take action, not just by activists outside the company, but

00:32:02.120 activists inside the company.

00:32:04.040 The bureaucracy in Disney, the professional managerial class that had been filled with

00:32:10.520 activists through woke HR and such suddenly turned against the company and said, you need

00:32:16.920 to take action during this.

00:32:18.120 And so Disney faced a Disney's board, Disney's leadership faced a revolt, both externally from

00:32:23.960 activists and internally from employee activists saying, you have to actually do something about

00:32:28.840 this.

00:32:29.160 But again, we're going to admit, omit all of this.

00:32:32.360 And what did Disney do?

00:32:33.400 Well, Disney said, no, we have the right in Florida to go ahead and indoctrinate children.

00:32:39.640 And the, and the best thing is Disney held all these public struggle sessions, right?

00:32:43.240 And we have links to a lot of this.

00:32:44.760 I believe Chris Rufo and others were directly involved in getting us access to what Disney

00:32:49.640 was saying about this.

00:32:50.680 And what did Disney say about this?

00:32:51.960 Well, they explicitly brought in different employees who said, oh no, we're totally on board.

00:32:57.560 And these are their words, not mine.

00:32:59.400 You know, no, no, Jack, uh, chick track could have, uh, you know, kind of predicted this better.

00:33:07.320 Right.

00:33:07.720 But they had employees specifically saying things like, oh yeah, I'm definitely implementing

00:33:11.400 my not so secret gay agenda in my children's programming and Florida would push against that.

00:33:16.840 And so we don't like this.

00:33:18.200 Right.

00:33:18.920 So again, so what all that happened during this was, uh, Disney just outed the incredible

00:33:24.840 bias and the incredible amount of indoctrination that its employees and those committed, uh,

00:33:31.080 to this, uh, to this agenda inside their own corporation were pushing.

00:33:34.520 Right.

00:33:34.840 And so he's going to ignore all of this.

00:33:37.560 He's going to ignore all of the context for this, but here's the most important part.

00:33:40.520 Here's the thing that's really infuriating about what French is doing.

00:33:44.440 He's also ignoring the fact that Disney was given specific privileges, right?

00:33:49.400 It's not that Ron DeSantis went out and got the Florida legislature to start, you know,

00:33:55.320 leveling punitive taxes against Disney or, or, uh, you know, putting specific restrictions

00:34:00.680 just on Disney.

00:34:01.320 Hey, we hate Disney.

00:34:02.600 It's not that Ron DeSantis was, was locking up Mickey Mouse performers or dragging away,

00:34:08.360 uh, you know, different cast members at Disney.

00:34:11.000 Uh, none of this was what happened.

00:34:12.440 What, what was the, the horrible thing that Florida was going to do to Disney?

00:34:15.800 It's going to make Disney play by some of the rules.

00:34:18.120 Still not all of it.

00:34:19.000 Disney still has many of the privileges that enjoyed before all of this,

00:34:22.840 but they went in and they said, yeah, okay.

00:34:25.400 So Disney currently has this own special, basically municipal district.

00:34:29.880 And the special municipal district for Disney allows it to, uh, circumvent most of the like

00:34:36.040 permitting and taxes and other requirements that are placed on most corporations and businesses

00:34:42.840 inside of Florida.

00:34:44.040 And so what we're going to do is we're going to take your, basically your tiny little fiefdom,

00:34:48.280 your tiny little independent kingdom, your Vatican city in the middle of Florida.

00:34:53.400 And we're going to say, no, this one corporation doesn't get to live like it's its own king.

00:34:58.680 Like, like, like old school, uh, company town where it just gets to own the police

00:35:03.560 and own the firefighters and own every aspect of the municipality around it.

00:35:08.520 We're going to, we're going to get rid of some of that exemption.

00:35:11.000 And by the way, they still have most of it.

00:35:12.760 So it probably didn't even go far enough.

00:35:14.600 But the point is that all they did was remove Disney's special privileges.

00:35:20.920 Now, French is a principled conservatism, right?

00:35:24.360 You know, sorry, he's a principled conservative, right?

00:35:27.320 So he should be against special privileges for corporations, evil play or equal playing field,

00:35:32.840 right?

00:35:33.160 Free market.

00:35:35.400 But he doesn't acknowledge any of that.

00:35:37.000 He doesn't acknowledge the fact that Disney was living like a king with its own special

00:35:44.680 little fiefdom inside of Florida.

00:35:47.400 And all that happened is the special privileges got stripped away because

00:35:50.360 it attacked the people who had extended them.

00:35:53.320 Now he would say, oh, that's punitive politics.

00:35:55.320 Well, yeah, guess what?

00:35:56.920 If you attack people who are giving you special specific

00:36:00.760 privileges that it's not giving to anyone else, you might lose them.

00:36:05.240 And you as a conservative should celebrate that because you're supposed to be for the

00:36:09.000 free market and you're supposed to be for equal treatment.

00:36:13.400 And yet, nothing, right?

00:36:16.120 No mention of that.

00:36:16.920 It's just the same thing.

00:36:18.040 It's exactly the same thing.

00:36:19.400 No context, no explanation of what actually happened in that scenario.

00:36:24.200 It's just treated as exactly the same thing.

00:36:27.400 It's a sign of our times that the list of that the list above from the left and the right

00:36:32.360 is willfully incomplete.

00:36:34.040 Careful observers will be able to point to any number of additional culture war

00:36:38.280 motivated statutes and regulations and government actions that take aim at the Bill of Rights.

00:36:43.160 And of course, there will be many here, as we'll see.

00:36:47.160 State attacks on civil liberties are even affecting our most valuable relationships,

00:36:51.240 the bond between parent and child.

00:36:54.040 In January, the Times reported on how public schools sometimes withhold

00:36:59.000 from parents information about child's gender transition, even in the absence of any evidence

00:37:04.280 of parental abuse.

00:37:06.360 So this is really important.

00:37:08.360 This happens all the time.

00:37:09.880 This is standard operating procedure.

00:37:11.560 And again, I can tell you that because this happened in the school.

00:37:15.720 I was teaching it in Florida before this passed.

00:37:19.880 The standard application from that school district was we, that was pushed down from the

00:37:26.680 state as I understood it, is that you don't tell parents about their children gender transitioning.

00:37:34.920 You're not allowed to, you'll lose your job if you do.

00:37:37.880 So you're, you're required to lie to parents to keep their job.

00:37:40.680 Now, thank God, I was never put in that position.

00:37:43.560 I didn't have to make that choice between keeping my job and telling the parent a truth,

00:37:48.760 the truth about what's going on with the kid, because I would have gotten fired, right?

00:37:53.400 But one of the reasons I'm really passionate about this stuff is I've been in this position.

00:37:57.560 I know this is what goes on.

00:37:59.240 I know this is what happens.

00:38:00.440 I know this is what policy even, again, in the most right-wing, theoretically, states

00:38:07.480 here.

00:38:08.760 People are put in a position where they either lie to parents about things that are incredibly

00:38:14.920 dangerous and destructive to the lives of their children or they get fired, right?

00:38:20.040 So this is absolutely something that has to be opposed and it's good, you know,

00:38:25.480 good again for French for acknowledging that this is a very serious problem.

00:38:29.640 But the problem is that French is not going to attack any things around this,

00:38:33.000 any of the things that led to this, right?

00:38:34.840 He's going to treat this as one point, one instance that just oopsie-daisy happened to happen

00:38:40.440 out of this.

00:38:41.240 But of course this is an outgrowth of a system.

00:38:43.800 This is not just one isolated incident as we can see over and over again.

00:38:48.440 And he's just never going to address any of the private institutions or cultural driving

00:38:53.800 forces.

00:38:54.440 He's only ever going to point to the formalized restrictions in some of these instances.

00:39:00.040 California has enacted a statute that grants the state a broad authority to permit

00:39:05.480 children to receive gender affirming health care there, even potentially over the objection of

00:39:11.800 a custodial parent.

00:39:12.840 Again, yeah, that is absolutely insane, right?

00:39:15.320 You can just take your child to, you can just take your child or their child can just flee

00:39:21.720 to California and the parent loses rights, right?

00:39:24.360 Or if the child's already in California, they lose rights.

00:39:26.920 Basically turning into a sanctuary state for child mutilation, right?

00:39:31.480 And we already know that this is happening.

00:39:35.080 I'm trying to remember the gentleman's name.

00:39:36.840 Sorry, it's escaping me live here.

00:39:39.800 But there's that one gentleman whose son, you know, was, was the, the mother wants the

00:39:45.160 son to transition and took the child to California, basically terminating the rights of the father

00:39:51.480 to protect their child from this type of abuse.

00:39:54.520 Because once they're in California, yes, Jeff Younger, thank you very much.

00:39:57.880 I appreciate that.

00:39:58.520 I just spaced on it for a second there.

00:40:01.320 But yeah, Jeff Younger, right?

00:40:02.520 Like the, the child's taken to California and all of a sudden what was already a very

00:40:07.160 contentious issue in Texas, you know, shame on Texas for not securing the rights of, of

00:40:11.560 Jeff Younger much earlier in the right to protect that child.

00:40:16.920 But now that the, the, the ex-wife has fled to California, there's just no, no ability to

00:40:22.120 protect the child at all, which is just horrific.

00:40:25.320 For example, section seven of the law states that California courts won't weigh as a factor

00:40:30.280 against a petition seeking California, seeking California court extra jurisdiction.

00:40:36.200 If the person took a child from the person who has legal custody in order to obtain

00:40:41.000 gender affirming care.

00:40:41.880 So basically you can just steal the kid from, from the person who should have authority over them.

00:40:47.400 And, and the California court doesn't care.

00:40:51.560 And, and that care is limited by the law or policy of another state.

00:40:56.360 And because every culture war action against civil liberties has its own

00:41:00.120 mirror image on the other side.

00:41:02.360 And here we go.

00:41:03.240 Right.

00:41:03.640 Both sides horseshoe, you know, I'm in the middle, I'm, I'm principled, you know,

00:41:07.960 uh, governor, uh, of Texas, uh, Greg Abbott, uh, governor of Texas issued a directive

00:41:14.040 to the Texas department of family and protective services to investigate as abuse, both surgical

00:41:19.080 and pharmaceutical interventions for transgender children.

00:41:22.680 Here's the, here's the terrifying part.

00:41:24.840 Here's, here's where David French is playing with the conservative case for trans kids.

00:41:29.960 Regardless of the good faith and desires of the parents and children and caregivers involved.

00:41:39.080 David, where's the good faith here?

00:41:43.080 How is this good faith?

00:41:44.200 In what good faith scenario does a parent assent to the mutilation of their child?

00:41:54.280 And what good faith scenario does a parent say yes to a procedure that could chemically castrate their

00:42:04.040 children because the kids saw something on TV or had it pushed on them by a teacher.

00:42:10.840 How's that good faith?

00:42:12.360 And how does the desire of parents and children play into this when it comes to actually mutilating

00:42:20.200 children? Can the, can the child consent?

00:42:24.040 David, is that what you're saying?

00:42:25.480 The consent of the child is what matters here.

00:42:28.040 It's a really interesting thing to be asserting that the child can consent to this or that,

00:42:35.160 or if you get the child and the parents consent, then it's fine, right?

00:42:40.040 But then it's okay.

00:42:41.080 You'll notice that every part of this is just steeped deeply in leftist ideology.

00:42:49.080 David is using the words of the left in every way, at every step, both surgical and

00:42:54.440 pharmaceutical intervention for transgender children.

00:42:57.640 Uh, first, what does that mean?

00:43:00.760 Why are you using this language?

00:43:02.200 Why are you using their left language here?

00:43:05.960 I'm not really sure what I can say on YouTube here, so I'm doing my best

00:43:10.440 to not use the new speak, but also, you know, not, not get the stream nuked from orbit.

00:43:17.320 But, um, when you say interventions here, what do you mean?

00:43:23.880 And why are you acknowledging that this is something legitimate?

00:43:27.880 Why are you legitimating the left's, uh, associations here?

00:43:33.800 Unless you agree with them, unless you think they are legitimate,

00:43:37.800 unless of course you plan to later on agree with this stuff.

00:43:42.600 And you get a feeling that's exactly what is going to end up happening because it already has.

00:43:47.480 French already did this with gay marriage.

00:43:49.080 He opposed it until he said he was for it or not that he was for it to again, be fair to French.

00:43:54.920 What he said was basically, I'm still for the Christian definition when it comes to religious

00:44:00.520 marriage, but basically for us all to live together, we have to have the leftist definition of

00:44:07.240 civil marriage.

00:44:08.360 And you'll see this over and over again.

00:44:10.360 David's commitment is not to his conservative values.

00:44:14.120 David's commitment is not to his Christian values.

00:44:16.120 David's golden calf is the constitution and, or at least his construction of the constitution,

00:44:24.040 which I don't think is accurate.

00:44:25.640 Okay.

00:44:26.600 I'm sorry, but I don't think that James Madison or Alexander Hamilton or John Jay or any of the

00:44:35.320 people who contributed to the bill of rights were attempting to enshrine the right of, of a parent

00:44:41.240 to carve, to pay someone to carve functioning organs off of their child.

00:44:46.440 Sorry.

00:44:47.000 I don't think that was the intention.

00:44:49.000 I'm pretty sure if they found out that was happening in their neck of the woods,

00:44:54.520 um, things would happen again.

00:44:56.920 I'm just going to be careful with YouTube here, but I'm pretty sure that they would have taken action

00:45:02.840 action to protect that child from, from this.

00:45:07.320 I don't think they would have imagined that there should be a, that the constitution allowed

00:45:13.560 for a movement that would force this onto children and would facilitate the right of surgeons and parents

00:45:23.160 to make this happen on behalf of a child.

00:45:25.640 And also I would like to go ahead and acknowledge at this point, something that David's not going to

00:45:33.400 acknowledge that this entire thing is held up.

00:45:35.880 These interventions, as David calls them, are entirely facilitated by a complex of public-private

00:45:45.720 partnerships through healthcare, uh, the healthcare industry.

00:45:49.640 Right?

00:45:50.600 Most of the kids undergoing this, most of the parents who are agreeing to it would not do so

00:45:57.720 if insurance companies weren't basically funding this stuff, weren't turning these kids into eternal,

00:46:03.400 uh, patients, eternal wards of both the state and the medical industry.

00:46:08.200 Right?

00:46:09.080 If they were, if, if the insurance industry was not directly funding and facilitating this,

00:46:13.160 most of these people, the vast majority of them would never have the ability to do this.

00:46:17.560 So this is being funded through public-private partnerships.

00:46:20.440 This is being enabled through public-private partnerships, right?

00:46:24.360 This is all a artificial scaffolding created to ensure this outcome.

00:46:30.520 But again, French isn't going to acknowledge any of this.

00:46:32.920 It's, you know, private corporations, uh, parents, parents can do what they want.

00:46:37.480 Oh, really, David, what do you, you, you okay with child abuse?

00:46:41.560 You think, you think that if, if the parents are okay with it, that's fine.

00:46:45.000 You don't think the state has a role to protect children.

00:46:49.480 You think that the parents should be able to go ahead and expose the child

00:46:53.800 to any and everything they want at any time.

00:46:55.720 I got a feeling you don't.

00:46:57.560 Right?

00:46:58.520 Yes.

00:46:59.320 We do want autonomy for families.

00:47:01.320 We don't want the state to be involved in every interaction between child and parent.

00:47:04.760 A hundred percent.

00:47:05.720 I'm biggest advocate of that.

00:47:07.720 But we all understand that there are lines.

00:47:10.600 We all understand there are things that the parent is not allowed to do.

00:47:16.200 And that we, as a society do not approve of the left is more than clear on that.

00:47:21.160 And as we can see from an increasingly a sad number of cases, left will actively remove

00:47:28.440 the ability of the parent to have authority over their child.

00:47:31.800 If the, if the parent disagrees with gender ideology.

00:47:37.000 But again, this is where David's going to spend his time.

00:47:40.920 To understand the gravity of the state interfering with the parental authority,

00:47:44.520 it's worth remembering that the words of chief justice,

00:47:46.680 Warren burger in 1972 case, Wisconsin versus Yoder, in which he wrote that the primary role

00:47:52.120 of parents is in the upbringing of their children is now established beyond debate as an enduring

00:47:57.800 American tradition to simply presume that parents are abusive because they may dissent from state

00:48:02.840 consensus on transgender care is to violate their, this principle of the, of American law.

00:48:09.000 Well, again, what are you talking about?

00:48:12.360 What does dissent from consensus mean here?

00:48:14.760 Cause you're right.

00:48:15.720 Parents should have the ability to dissent from consensus in many different areas.

00:48:20.280 I'm with you there.

00:48:21.640 I think this, I think that the state should stay out of the family sphere as much as possible,

00:48:27.000 but let's get really, really specific.

00:48:29.800 Let's not sugar coat or as specific again, as we can on YouTube.

00:48:33.640 Let's not sugar coat what you mean when you say a pharmaceutical and surgical intervention.

00:48:40.440 That's a really clean bit of language, David.

00:48:42.600 What do you mean by that?

00:48:43.960 What are you really saying?

00:48:46.600 What's getting removed?

00:48:48.280 What actions are being taken by that surgical intervention?

00:48:52.040 What permanent damage is being caused?

00:48:54.680 How desperate are you making that child?

00:48:58.120 How dependent are you making that child on the adoption of this transgender identity,

00:49:03.560 identity and the irreversible nature of so many of the physical changes and direct mutilation

00:49:10.520 that you are inflicting on this?

00:49:12.920 The practice is barbaric.

00:49:14.840 The practice is barbaric.

00:49:16.440 Okay.

00:49:18.600 And pretending that this is just,

00:49:20.280 Oh, it says that some little descent, you know, it's some, some, some little difference.

00:49:26.040 No, no.

00:49:27.720 This is a horrific violation of the innocence of children who have been preyed upon

00:49:35.320 by the forces that you will not protect them from.

00:49:38.040 You will not protect them from the media forces.

00:49:39.880 You will not protect them from the social media.

00:49:41.880 You will not protect them from an educational apparatus.

00:49:45.240 All designed to drive them towards this inevitable conclusion.

00:49:48.840 And then when it comes time to make the irreversible physical deformation of these children,

00:49:54.920 a permanent thing funded at every step by this massive oligarchy,

00:50:00.680 driving them towards this outcome, you won't protect them then either.

00:50:03.000 Because if the, if the parent can be shamed into assenting to this,

00:50:09.720 if the parent can be beaten into assenting to this, then it's fine.

00:50:13.800 It's just a blessing of Liberty enshrined in the constitution,

00:50:18.200 just the way that the founding fathers meant to it to be.

00:50:20.600 I'm sure this is exactly the outcome they were looking for.

00:50:24.840 And the nation, uh, let me make sure I got the rest of this here.

00:50:27.640 Yeah.

00:50:27.800 Okay.

00:50:28.120 In a nation as diverse as the United States, conflicts over values are inevitable,

00:50:33.320 but our most basic civil liberties must remain inviolate.

00:50:36.760 Again, here's the problem, David, that's a value.

00:50:41.960 That's a value.

00:50:43.640 And this is an issue.

00:50:44.840 This is a huge issue for many conservatives, but especially

00:50:49.000 for kind of the principled conservative con Inc. crowd, right?

00:50:52.520 They will not acknowledge, they will not acknowledge that there is no like

00:51:00.040 superseding value in the United States that everyone shares at this point to civil liberties.

00:51:06.520 It doesn't exist.

00:51:08.360 Okay.

00:51:09.720 It doesn't exist.

00:51:11.640 And pretending it does puts you in a terrible situation because you're ignoring that the very

00:51:17.720 conflict of values is what is already degenerating the civil liberties that politicians are already

00:51:25.240 using those powers to restrict and destroy the civil liberties and ensure that they stay in power.

00:51:31.000 Has David French talked about the destruction of democracy via, uh,

00:51:38.280 via open borders?

00:51:39.560 Is David French fighting back vehemently against the complete destruction of the voting apparatus

00:51:47.320 through mail-in ballots and absentee ballots?

00:51:50.040 No.

00:51:51.240 Right?

00:51:51.720 We're not, we're not getting comms on this.

00:51:53.080 Maybe he does.

00:51:53.480 Maybe he has a whole library of them.

00:51:54.600 I haven't seen them, but maybe he does to be fair.

00:51:56.600 Maybe, maybe, maybe that's a huge issue for him, but I don't seem to see that.

00:52:01.160 It doesn't seem to be the case.

00:52:02.360 It seems to, it seems to be his biggest, uh, he's not in here praising Ron DeSantis

00:52:07.640 for cleaning up mail-in ballots and getting same day voting done.

00:52:11.960 He's not doing that.

00:52:13.160 Right?

00:52:13.480 He's only here to attack Ron DeSantis for trying to protect kids.

00:52:18.040 And he can say, oh, I'm, I'm against this.

00:52:19.880 At the end of the day, I'm against transition for children.

00:52:23.800 He can say that, oh, in my private life, I would never do that to his kid.

00:52:26.760 Let's hope.

00:52:27.320 Right?

00:52:27.720 Of course, I think probably all of David French's kids are grown at this point,

00:52:30.760 but you, you get my understanding here.

00:52:32.200 He might say in my private life, this is the old, the old conservative.

00:52:35.240 Well, in my private life, I'm, I'm against this, but I don't think the

00:52:37.960 state should get involved.

00:52:38.680 Well, the state's getting involved.

00:52:40.680 The state's already getting involved.

00:52:42.040 The state's already involved.

00:52:43.160 It's already here.

00:52:44.280 So now what do you do?

00:52:46.600 But again, that we're not allowed to acknowledge that reality because acknowledging

00:52:52.520 that these are two competing value systems that cannot coexist, that cannot be mediated

00:52:59.720 by some overarching commitment to civil liberties would, would mean that David French has to do

00:53:06.680 something, would mean, would mean that conservatives have to take action.

00:53:10.760 And that's something that cannot be acknowledged to govern otherwise both inflicts a grave injury on

00:53:15.880 dissenting citizens and violates the letter in spirit of the constitution itself.

00:53:20.200 Great.

00:53:21.240 So how are dissenting citizens doing in the United States?

00:53:24.840 How about Douglas Mackey?

00:53:26.840 How's Douglas Mackey doing?

00:53:29.080 He allegedly made a meme and they're trying to throw him in jail, right?

00:53:34.760 Because he made a meme, the same kind of meme that leftists were making and face no penalty for.

00:53:42.760 What about protesters?

00:53:45.880 BLM protesters, Antifa protesters, rioters can inflict all kinds of violence and death

00:53:52.280 on the country for months on end and face no penalty.

00:53:57.480 But actual political dissenters on January 6th, they don't get to see their families.

00:54:05.640 The necessary footage to help them in their trial is denied to their attorneys, right?

00:54:11.720 But, you know, I guess that just doesn't matter, right?

00:54:16.840 That's not what we're focused on.

00:54:18.200 The most important thing is that you can teach gender ideology to a first grader, to a kindergartner.

00:54:24.760 The most important thing is that if a child consents and a parent has been bullied into it,

00:54:30.920 you can go ahead and do irreversible physical damage to a minor.

00:54:40.680 It's just not a concern for David.

00:54:42.200 He can't, can't, it's not a big deal, right?

00:54:45.960 He can't acknowledge that civil liberties are already being destroyed.

00:54:49.960 That this framework is already in tatters.

00:54:52.200 He can't, it's not a big deal.

00:54:53.880 He can't, it's not a big deal.

00:54:57.000 Our right to speak much less to parent should not be contingent on our ability to gain political

00:55:02.520 control.

00:55:03.160 Sure.

00:55:03.720 Okay, great.

00:55:04.440 But it is.

00:55:05.000 So now what?

00:55:06.840 Right?

00:55:08.360 So now what?

00:55:09.880 Because social media companies are already working with the federal government to limit your speech,

00:55:17.720 but you don't want Florida to have the ability or Texas to have the ability to stop them.

00:55:22.920 You don't want the democratic process to work.

00:55:25.880 You don't want that.

00:55:28.520 Not that I think it would have worked anyway, but, but you, but you explicitly

00:55:33.560 are out there talking about the importance of maintaining the constitutional order and

00:55:37.800 allowing the consequences of democracy to be what shifts the tides of cultural and political

00:55:43.000 change in the United States, but just never going to acknowledge the fact that that already

00:55:47.320 doesn't happen, that the system is already manipulated in a way that makes that impossible.

00:55:52.760 Right?

00:55:53.160 But we're just never going to acknowledge that is we're going to pretend like

00:55:56.120 Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott are the first movers here.

00:56:00.120 Just insane.

00:56:02.040 The much better course for our democracy is to uphold a legal corollary to the golden rule.

00:56:07.960 Defend the rights of others that you would like to exercise yourself.

00:56:11.640 It doesn't end the culture war.

00:56:13.960 Uh, yeah.

00:56:14.920 Except again, not happening, right?

00:56:17.400 It's, it's actively not happening now.

00:56:19.960 We'll still clash over contentious issues, but maintain a bedrock defense of civil liberties,

00:56:24.440 uh, uh, uh, uh, or maintaining a bedrock defense of civil liberties lowers the stakes.

00:56:30.120 Again, that's a nice thing in theory, but it's not what's happening in practice.

00:56:34.840 What's happening in practice is that losing an election

00:56:37.400 election means that your political opponent runs roughshod over your ability to impact the

00:56:45.640 democratic process specifically through the actions of private corporations that David

00:56:52.120 would defend that David would say should have the ability to ban politicians, should have the

00:56:58.280 ability to censor information, should have the ability to shut down the very key lifeblood to

00:57:05.800 the democratic process he reveres.

00:57:07.320 He's going to ignore all of that.

00:57:08.360 He's not going to say anything about it.

00:57:09.960 Private companies should be able to do all of those things at the behest of the political victors.

00:57:15.240 He's not going to acknowledge any moment of that.

00:57:17.000 He's just saying, well, if Ron DeSantis tries to take any kind of action to protect

00:57:22.840 the citizens of his state, if Greg Abbott takes any kind of protection

00:57:27.160 to try to, or any kind of action to protect the citizens of his state from the very thing

00:57:32.200 that will destroy their ability to participate in the democratic process,

00:57:36.120 then they're the ones who are violating the constitution and accelerating the culture war.

00:57:41.080 The culture war is already accelerated.

00:57:44.200 David wants to turn down the temperature on a pot that is already boiled over and is scalding everyone

00:57:52.440 and he just wants to ignore it.

00:57:54.200 Protecting individual freedoms tells all Americans and all American families that the social compact

00:57:58.920 holds. It doesn't hold. That's the problem. That's what can't be acknowledged. It doesn't hold.

00:58:04.360 It has not held. I wish it had. I really would, but it didn't. So what do we do now?

00:58:10.280 Win or lose on any given issue, regardless of how controversial this country is still

00:58:15.080 their home, except that's actually what everyone, especially people who disagree with David French

00:58:21.080 are being told is not the case. You don't belong here. You aren't American. This isn't what America is.

00:58:27.720 That's what they're hearing from their representatives. That's what they're hearing from their media.

00:58:34.680 They're being told you can be replaced. You're not valuable. In fact, the people who will come

00:58:40.280 here to take, you know, they will be way better Americans than you. That's what people are told

00:58:48.760 that you, some, some conservative in a red state, you're worthless. You're a drain on the economy.

00:58:54.520 You're, you know, you're, you're, uh, you're dragging everything down and this is not your home

00:58:59.640 anymore. You're, you're a relic of the past. Your values are out of date. They're not insured.

00:59:05.400 This they're not, the system is not protecting them and they know it. And pretending that we live

00:59:12.200 in some kind of fantasy land where the constitution has protected all of these things and none of these

00:59:17.320 things are issues is just deeply disingenuous. And yeah, it helps you hold on to your idealistic

00:59:24.840 worldview about what actions conservatives should take and the role of the government should be.

00:59:30.040 But it completely ignores the actual wellbeing of the people you're supposed to, in theory,

00:59:36.040 protect. But of course, David French isn't supposed to protect them. David French is paid

00:59:40.680 at this point to attack them. And while I think he probably does, you know, theory of mind of our

00:59:46.280 opponents here, I think he does genuinely believe he's doing the right thing. He thinks he really is

00:59:51.160 standing up for the lost, you know, uh, legacy of conservatism that will shepherd things through.

00:59:57.960 At the end of the day, he's profiting over the destruction of the very culture that he is in

01:00:02.680 theory supposed to protect. And he's incentivized to continue to do so. He's already shifted his

01:00:09.000 positions. He'll continue to shift them because that's where the power is. This somehow, this principle

01:00:16.200 conservatism always finds a way to bend the knee to the next left wing crusade just in time.

01:00:24.360 And it'll happen, right? We do, if you didn't catch it today on Twitter, our illustrious grand admiral,

01:00:32.440 our trans admiral of healthcare in the United States announced that, um, transition for minors

01:00:40.600 is going to, the wheel is going to turn on this, you know, that your election or two,

01:00:44.760 this will just be normalized. Right. And this is exactly what I warned about what other, and I

01:00:51.320 wasn't alone. Many people, you know, saw this one coming, uh, thank goodness. Uh, and many people

01:00:56.520 warned about it, but we were all told that's crazy. That's insane. It isn't happening. Don't be

01:01:01.240 ridiculous. Right. But we see the celebrate, the celebration parallax, Michael Anton's celebration

01:01:06.920 parallax advance, right? First stage, it's not happening then. Okay. It, you know, it's not

01:01:13.320 really happening very many places, but if it did, then it wouldn't be so bad. Okay. Yes, it is

01:01:17.800 happening, but, but only in, in some places. And then finally, okay. Yeah. It was always happening.

01:01:22.280 And it's really good. There was, it was actually a key part of this. And so what we're seeing now is

01:01:26.360 the left is moving from its, uh, accusation or it's, it's assertion that none of this is happening.

01:01:33.000 This isn't happening to minors. This is never going to put pushed on kids. The kids aren't being

01:01:36.680 groomed into this and they're now not so slowly and not so subtly shifting their position to,

01:01:43.720 of course, this was being pushed on children. It has to be pushed on children. This is the moral

01:01:47.480 moral arc of history. It was always going to go this direction. It had to go this direction. And

01:01:51.560 if it didn't go in this direction, that would have been a horrific human rights violation, right?

01:01:55.240 We're seeing that Joe Biden did that interview. I did that piece yesterday, uh, video on, uh, Joe

01:02:01.960 Biden's interview with the daily show where he says for Florida, you know, Ron DeSantis defending

01:02:07.720 children from gender transition is a sin. That was his, his word. It's a sin. Right. And then he said,

01:02:14.680 what, and then, you know, because he's, he's just, you know, verbally incontinent, uh, he then blurted

01:02:20.040 out the, the left's plan, which was going to be their plan all along. We're going to go ahead and get

01:02:24.040 rid of the rights of States to protect children. And we're going to go ahead and get in there. And then he said

01:02:27.960 they're going to do it through legislation, but they're not, they're going to do it through the courts first.

01:02:31.960 And we're going to destroy the ability of places like Florida and Georgia to protect children

01:02:35.640 against this horrific and barbaric practice. That is the plan of the left. That is where this is going.

01:02:42.200 And all your talk about civil liberties and separation, you know, this, this piece was

01:02:45.800 dropped one day before the Joe Biden interview where Biden basically said, actually, I'm going to

01:02:51.880 ignore all the dictates of like federalism and everything. And I'm just going to go in and

01:02:55.080 bulldoze this stuff and make this the law of the land. But I got a feeling David French isn't

01:03:01.160 going to have much to say about that. Or maybe he will, maybe, maybe he'll have the courage of

01:03:04.840 his convictions on that, but I've got a feeling he won't. And those in power, those in the Biden

01:03:09.960 administration are more than happy to tell anyone who will listen from their trans Admiral all the

01:03:14.200 way up to the president of the United States, that they're totally backing this. They're totally on

01:03:17.720 board with this. And then they're more than willing to use every aspect of the federal government

01:03:21.720 and its public private partnerships, which will work around the constitution, the first amendment and

01:03:26.680 subvert everything that David French pretends to care about and protect. They're going to do all

01:03:31.080 this stuff. This is their agenda. It's stated, it's declared. And the question is, will you be willing

01:03:37.480 to use the power of the state in the states where you have it like Florida or Texas to protect these

01:03:43.640 kids? And the answer from David French is no. And that's horrific. But let's go ahead and take a look

01:03:51.080 here at our super chats real quick. Looks like we stacked up quite a bit. Let me grab those.

01:03:56.280 Let's see. Creeper weirdo for $5. New phrase for right wingers. Don't be French. How does that sound?

01:04:03.480 I think that is always been true of, of right wingers. I think there's a healthy, a healthy

01:04:09.320 tradition of making fun of the French on the American right. And we'll probably continue to be

01:04:14.760 the case. Uh, though I gotta be honest, uh, you know, if America keeps going this way, we might be

01:04:20.040 the ones that are the, the ones joked about if you know, we aren't already. Uh, Creeper weirdo again

01:04:25.240 for $2, but national review says, yes. Uh, our friends at national review are always letting us

01:04:30.520 know. Actually to be fair, there, there's a couple of people over there, you know, Nate Hockman from

01:04:34.520 the national review. Who's been on the show a couple of times. Uh, he's very good on this. I've,

01:04:38.360 I've had him on specifically on this topic, uh, multiple times. Uh, so while I will, uh,

01:04:43.240 I will a hundred percent say that the national review is, uh, uh, institution that, uh, desperately

01:04:48.840 in a desperate way, uh, and is hopefully on its way out. There are some people they're doing good

01:04:53.720 work. Guys like Nate are, are doing good work. Uh, creeper weirdo here again for $2. I will not

01:04:58.760 fed post. I will not fed post much appreciated. Uh, your restraint is essential. Uh, really appreciate

01:05:04.600 that glow in the dark here for $10. Good faith by David French's estimation is based on liberalist

01:05:11.880 lawyer or bureaucratic view based on these policies or rulings. Uh, it's completely fine

01:05:18.280 with trans kids. Pluralism is the mantra. Yeah, that's exactly right. Again, there's no principle.

01:05:24.360 There's no principle that David French is not willing to violate in service to his highest principle,

01:05:30.200 which is this idea of constitutional plurality. And so there's, there's nothing that he won't let

01:05:37.640 be done. There's no, there's no, there's no destruction of wellbeing. He will not let happen

01:05:43.400 as long as he thinks it falls under these, these proper procedures. And that's what conservatives

01:05:49.000 were lulled into so many times. So many times conservatives were lulled into this idea that it's

01:05:56.040 okay for horrific things to happen for the left to implement all kinds of horrific policies to

01:06:01.400 victimize all kinds of people. As long as all the procedures were followed, as long as all the rules

01:06:07.160 are followed, that's all that really matters. We got to follow the rules. And so you're exactly right.

01:06:12.200 Go in the dark that as long as they're the, the liberalist ideas, as long as the bureaucratic

01:06:17.000 process was followed, that's all that matters. Now, French is again, never going to address

01:06:23.240 how the bureaucracy comes to its decisions. How are medical experts, people who are supposed to be

01:06:30.280 super familiar with biological reality and the ethics implied by doing irreversible damage to

01:06:36.680 children? How are they at the forefront of pushing this stuff?

01:06:42.760 He's never going to address that, right? Because it's, it's not a, it's not a civil liberties issue

01:06:46.520 in his, his eyes. All that matters is the process. All that matters is the bureaucracy. Never addressing

01:06:52.200 the underlying underlying cause moving this, never acknowledging the fact that the government is

01:06:57.240 actively taking a role in incentivizing these theoretically private actors to have these outcomes.

01:07:05.320 Never going to acknowledge that always about making sure we pay attention to procedure.

01:07:09.480 Good news. Again, if you want to take one white pill away from this today, because I know it's a,

01:07:13.480 it's a very, uh, enraging topic in many ways. It can, it can be, you know, uh, it can be a little

01:07:19.320 bit of a downer, uh, to talk about. Uh, one thing you should take away from this is the good news is the

01:07:24.360 irrelevance of people like David French. At this point, David French's audience is the left.

01:07:28.120 David French is an apostate of the right who goes around and puts the, the, the message of the left

01:07:34.920 into the words of Christian conservatives. So the left can feel like this is what real

01:07:39.880 Christian conservatives would believe. They want to believe that somewhere out there,

01:07:45.800 there's like a, a, a Republican party that can be reconstructed of David French's so they can keep

01:07:51.000 this dance of, of, uh, pretending there's two sides to American politics alive. But increasingly,

01:07:56.440 it's very clear that that's not the case, right? It's increasingly clear that that's not the case,

01:08:01.720 uh, that, that the right is abandoning the positions of David French, that he doesn't have the kind of

01:08:07.400 authority or leadership that, uh, the left would like to pretend he does. And that's the good news

01:08:13.880 is that more and more people on the right are ignoring that or are ignoring the, the, the, uh,

01:08:19.880 the ideas of David French. He's not making a case that is particularly compelling to most

01:08:24.440 conservatives today. Uh, let's see. Uh, Ronald McNuggets here. Um, I'm not sure what denomination

01:08:34.040 that is, is that South Korean. Uh, but anyway, thank you very much. Uh, David's golden calf is

01:08:38.360 not the constitution, but keeping the New York, uh, stock exchange open and LLCs filing, uh, for D, uh,

01:08:47.160 DA billionaires, uh, side on why, uh, 1964 act is illegal. Uh, what speech does a hostile work

01:08:55.640 environment harassment law restrict a professor Eugene Volks? Okay. I'm not sure about all of those

01:09:02.200 references there. It looks like there's a reference as to a legal reference from a legal, from a

01:09:07.480 professor on, uh, why the 64 civil rights act violates certain aspects of the constitution.

01:09:15.000 I'll say this, uh, Ronald, I think that, uh, David probably does revere the constitution. Um,

01:09:21.480 at least again, his construction of it. Uh, I do want to give, it's, it's again, easy to cynically

01:09:26.600 say all of my enemies are bought off and none of them, uh, uh, have any kind of conviction.

01:09:33.000 I don't think that's true in the case of David French. Um, I do think he is motivated. Uh,

01:09:39.320 you know, if you think there are incentives lined up for him to continue to do this kind of, uh,

01:09:44.920 apostate, uh, dance for the left. But I do think he probably, uh, does value the constitution

01:09:52.040 in some way, even if I don't think it's, uh, in the way that's, that's valuable or that really

01:09:56.760 conveys the, the actual intention of those involved. Uh, however, you of course see like

01:10:02.600 many mainstream conservatives is very worried about the bottom line. That's the economy. It's about

01:10:07.160 liberal economics in many ways. And I think you are probably right to some extent on that.

01:10:12.840 Uh, what tario vids for $5. French is a dirty euphemist like GK Testerton talked about in eugenics and

01:10:19.960 other evils. Yeah. Again, switching out the language so he doesn't have to acknowledge,

01:10:26.040 uh, the actual consequences of what he's saying is really underhanded by French. It's really gross.

01:10:31.720 Um, he uses the language left to make sure that he doesn't need to acknowledge what's actually being

01:10:36.520 done in these scenarios. Uh, and I think that, uh, saves him some moral culpability. He thinks on

01:10:42.200 his part, he doesn't, he doesn't have to face what's actually happening there. Uh, because if he said

01:10:47.320 what's actually happening, if he faced the truth of the consequences of his stances, uh, then it might

01:10:53.000 actually, uh, be clear where the actual moral lies, where morality actually lies on this.

01:11:00.120 Uh, glow in the dark here for $10. French seems to be completely happy with the, um, uh, with the

01:11:05.720 obviously not grassroots completely astroturfed nature of this push. French argues for, uh, kid love,

01:11:12.360 when love is love, keep government out of relationships. Yeah. Again, uh, French is

01:11:17.880 always willing to ignore the background, right? He's always willing to, uh, just pretend like

01:11:24.920 everything is happening on the surface. Everything is above the board. Uh, all these, all these actions

01:11:30.040 are being taken in the categories, the careful categories that he's constructed for his principal

01:11:35.480 conservative stance. So everything happens in either the private sphere or the public sphere. Everything

01:11:40.600 is either subject to the first amendment or it's not, uh, either, you know, the, the only actors here

01:11:46.040 are either government actors or private actors. He never acknowledges the crossover of the two.

01:11:50.520 He never acknowledges the back and forth nature of the managerial state, uh, the total state's

01:11:55.960 willingness to cross these lines on a regular basis, to use, uh, private institutions to circumvent,

01:12:02.120 uh, what, what would theoretically be the restrictions of the constitution. He's just never willing

01:12:08.200 to acknowledge that. And so that means that over time, he's simply going to bend with the whim of

01:12:13.880 whatever the left wants to do, right? He, like he said, he's going to go ahead and ignore, uh, that

01:12:19.240 these cultural, uh, movements are pushed top down and not supported bottom up by the democracy that

01:12:25.640 he again, theoretically supports.

01:12:29.080 Uh, let's see, uh, he's here for $2 for French's ideology is just rationalized surrender. And yeah,

01:12:38.680 I mean, I've, I used to tweet that out all the time that conservative is the ideology of surrender.

01:12:44.440 Right. And, and, you know, this is the good news is again, many people who are culturally conservative

01:12:53.080 are understanding this. They are shifting their views. They are realizing that this cultural

01:12:58.760 they taught that they were sold was a lie. And that's a very positive thing to be happening.

01:13:03.960 It's, it's a really good news. It's really good news that that's going on, but there is still this,

01:13:09.400 uh, this version of conservatives that there's just always a percentage of people in every

01:13:14.440 country around the world who are conservative in their disposition, but, and by which they just mean

01:13:19.240 they will just defend the institutions no matter what. It doesn't matter if the institutions are taken

01:13:24.760 over. It doesn't matter if the institutions are subverted. It doesn't matter, uh, if they've been

01:13:29.560 completely corrupted from within and no longer do what they're supposed to do. There's still this,

01:13:33.720 just these conservative, uh, white blood cells that are going to defend them no matter what has happened

01:13:39.560 to them. Uh, and this is, this is French. This is the man, you know, this is how it manifests in

01:13:45.000 people like French, where it doesn't matter how much the private public distinction has been destroyed.

01:13:50.520 French will still defend it as some kind of absolute. Uh, that, uh, means that the state

01:13:56.040 has no ability to say, for instance, protect children or for instance, to allow politicians

01:14:00.920 to speak to their constituents so that the democratic process, which is supposed to be the core of this

01:14:04.760 whole system can move forward. All right. Cripper weirdo again for $5. Thank you very much.

01:14:10.760 How does he walk with the fence posts where it is must be very painful. Yes. Uh, the,

01:14:16.360 the eternal fence sitter and its consequences, uh, would make it very, uh, uncomfortable.

01:14:23.000 Uh, let's see here glow in the dark for $5. Thank you again, sir. David French wants to protect the

01:14:27.240 theoretical conservatives, theoretical citizens, theoretical rights. He protects abstractions.

01:14:32.280 And yeah, that's really important. That's a really good point, right? Is that he only,

01:14:36.200 he is only interested in this realm of theory that somewhere out there, a theoretical right might be

01:14:42.200 violated or that a, uh, some kind of precedent might be set. He's always ignoring the actual impact.

01:14:49.480 What's actually happening to families. What's actually happening to children. How are people

01:14:53.640 actually being impacted by his beliefs and his actions? What, what are the actual cultural

01:14:58.600 consequences? You say you're protecting democracy and freedom of speech by, uh, supporting the knockdown

01:15:05.560 of a law in Florida that would, that would keep politicians from being banned. But what's the active

01:15:10.840 thing that's happening there? Well, actually less speech is happening. Speech is actually being

01:15:14.760 denied. Uh, political opponents of the regime are being denied access to the avenues that would

01:15:19.720 allow the democracy to function. And so what's, what's the actual thing that, not the theoretical thing,

01:15:25.320 but the actual thing that's happening to the country again, French isn't willing to address that.

01:15:31.640 Uh, let's see.

01:15:32.280 Evan Reese for $5 thoughts. Uh, you can share on Glenn Beck's interview with Ron DeSantis if you aren't a

01:15:42.200 fan of him running, but he does have a shot against the DC swamp at POTUS. So I've, I've seen pieces of

01:15:48.200 that interview. I've not seen the whole thing. Uh, I will say, I'll just go ahead and say what I've

01:15:53.800 said a number of times on Ron DeSantis. I'm a fan of Ron DeSantis.

01:15:57.000 I like Ron DeSantis. I don't think that he's controlled opposition. Like there are a lot

01:16:02.200 of people who say Ron DeSantis is, is controlled opposition. He's just out there for establishment

01:16:07.080 people to hold back Trump or something. I don't think that's true. I think Ron DeSantis, uh, is,

01:16:12.760 uh, if he didn't hold all of these positions, which, you know, many politicians don't, I think

01:16:17.160 he has changed some things in order to be more in line with kind of where the Republican party

01:16:21.720 is going, but so did Trump to be really clear. Okay. Uh, Trump was a blue dog Democrat and he

01:16:27.560 changed a number of his positions in order to kind of be in line, uh, with the Republican, uh,

01:16:34.120 voter base. Right. Um, so he would not, DeSantis would not be the only one guilty of that, of that,

01:16:39.800 if that was the case. So I like Ron DeSantis and I like what he's doing in Florida. I live in Florida.

01:16:43.960 I benefit from Ron DeSantis' governorship and I'm a fan that said, I don't think he should run for

01:16:49.400 president because one, uh, I think he's doing a great job in Florida. I want selfishly to have

01:16:56.120 him to continue to protect Florida and because he's showing Republican governors how this can get

01:17:02.120 done. Guys like Greg Abbott are taking action based on what Ron DeSantis does. So he's doing a

01:17:06.840 very valuable thing, which is providing a blueprint for how red state governors can resist the corruption

01:17:13.800 of Washington, how they can push back on important issues and how they can assemble power bases outside

01:17:19.000 of the swamp. I think that's incredibly valuable. I honestly think it's more valuable than marching

01:17:24.360 into Washington and getting destroyed by the Washington machine by getting bogged down by the

01:17:30.360 deep state. I don't think that DeSantis is going to be able to reform DC in the way that he has attacked

01:17:36.360 the problem in Florida because the regional power in Florida is very different than the installed power

01:17:42.200 in DC. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he's going to walk in there and he's going to blow everything away

01:17:46.520 and it's going to be amazing. I hope that's the case. That would be awesome, but I just don't

01:17:50.600 think it is. And I think in the meantime, he's going to run straight into the buzzsaw of Trump.

01:17:55.240 Now, a couple months ago, there's a stronger case for Trump because, um, he was still,

01:18:03.240 still seemed to have some of the wrecking ball ability against the media in the time between here

01:18:08.760 and there. Trump has shown he might, there, there might be the shine off the apple in a lot of ways.

01:18:14.200 And of course Trump wasn't perfect when he governed. So I was never in the impression

01:18:17.080 that Trump was going to step back into office and fix all these problems. I don't think the

01:18:20.600 election of either of these guys is going to solve our issue. Okay. And that's why I'm not really for

01:18:25.560 DeSantis running for president this time around. Cause I don't think it's going to put him in a

01:18:29.240 position to solve the issue. I do think it's going to blow his ability to kind of continue to shape

01:18:36.120 the governor position and show how power can be exercised in a regional level to, to protect

01:18:43.560 people. And I think long-term he would be better served waiting this out and allowing a little more

01:18:49.880 of this stuff to play out as he continues to form that position in Florida and then getting involved

01:18:55.240 in it when there isn't this like head to head battle against Trump. But it seems very clear at this point

01:19:01.480 that, you know, people have whispered in the ear of Ron DeSantis, you, you can be Caesar, uh, or in

01:19:07.000 this case you can be president. And once that's been whispered in your ear, uh, for anybody, but

01:19:12.440 particularly men of, of, of power and destiny, it's very hard to ignore. Uh, so I hope at the end of the

01:19:18.920 day that if Ron DeSantis is elected, uh, I certainly would support him over Joe Biden or whoever the Democrats

01:19:25.560 are going to throw in there. And I hope that he would be able to affect the changes that he's

01:19:31.240 affected in Florida. That would be great though. I would remind people that while the changes he's

01:19:35.400 made in Florida are good, they're still insufficient. Okay. Uh, DeSantis still is only protected children

01:19:42.200 up to fourth grade in Florida. Okay. And I'm very grateful that that action was taken, but remember

01:19:47.960 that as much as the media, this is the thing, right? The media yells crazy, radical, blah, blah, blah.

01:19:53.880 So that you think that that's as far as things can go. And so if they paint Ron DeSantis as the

01:19:58.760 craziest right winger or Trump is the craziest right winger, then that's just as far as the

01:20:03.640 Overton window window can shift. But neither of these guys are particularly radical. None,

01:20:09.480 neither of them are particularly, uh, even, you know, DeSantis probably, I guess a little more right

01:20:14.200 wing in some ways than Trump was at the beginning, but neither of these guys are out there on the

01:20:19.480 fringes. They're both very reasonable people when it comes to their policy positions, uh, you know,

01:20:26.120 politically, um, you know, maybe not Donald Trump rhetorically, but, but when it comes to actual

01:20:31.080 policy implementation, very reasonable, probably too much. And so, uh, when they're painted as radical,

01:20:38.040 then we get to pretend that's the only, as far as things go. But I don't think either of these guys

01:20:44.200 are going to kind of clean up this thing. But if, if Ron DeSantis does get elected,

01:20:49.880 I'll a hundred percent be rooting for him to do. So I would certainly prefer him over

01:20:54.760 Joe Biden, uh, or anyone else the left would, would advance, uh, glow in the dark for $5 experts

01:21:00.440 in ethics, especially medical ethics are the most unethical and immoral people I have ever listened

01:21:04.600 to. No wonder our medical systems suck. Yeah, absolutely. If someone describes themselves as an

01:21:09.560 ethicist, uh, they are probably a complete sociopath. They are probably purely evil and

01:21:14.200 you should probably, uh, avoid them at all costs. Uh, it's almost always the, uh, complete disembodiment

01:21:21.560 of ethics from any kind of moral tradition or substance that would matter. Uh, and it should

01:21:26.760 almost always be ignored. Uh, glow in the dark again here for $10. Thank you very much,

01:21:30.760 sir. DeSantis should secure Florida and coordinate with other state Republicans to secure

01:21:35.560 those states. Then when it's done, go federal secure the ground, then attack enemy territory.

01:21:40.840 Yeah, that's a hundred percent my position. That's exactly what I'm saying. Again, I'm not attacking,

01:21:46.360 uh, Trump or DeSantis. I think the thing you think they both have valuable roles to play.

01:21:51.080 I just think DeSantis' role would be best served as, um, a governor for another term. Uh, many people

01:21:57.880 disagree with that. That's fine. I totally understand their case. It's a reasonable case. I'm not saying

01:22:03.960 anyone is ridiculous for wanting Ron DeSantis wanting Ron DeSantis to run. And I'm not saying

01:22:09.000 that Trump is in any way like a perfect candidate who, who would change everything. I don't think

01:22:13.480 either of those is true. I think, uh, you know, Trump has already proven that he can't get in

01:22:18.040 there and change everything, unfortunately. Uh, but I'm just saying that I don't think either of them

01:22:22.360 would get in there and change everything. And I think DeSantis would be better served in Florida,

01:22:26.680 laying a roadmap for, uh, the right. And I think Trump would be better served as a wrecking ball against the

01:22:31.880 media. But that said, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap things up. Thank you everybody

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