Jay Burden, a Virginia expert on the ground, joins me to talk about the recent loss of the Republican Governor of Virginia, Shelly Spamberger to Democrat Jill Vogel. We also talk about Bitcoin and the future of the space race.
00:05:40.000And this was predicted by myself, by Bug Beef's co-host Merrick, by many other figures as well.
00:05:46.000And we see that instead of the moderate that she self-described as, our new governor is insanely radical.
00:05:54.000She's pushing through incredibly radical policies on obviously the Second Amendment, but you've no doubt heard about that.
00:06:00.000But also the trans issue, abortion, effectively just legalizing fraud, any number of kind of Democratic excesses all at once immediately.
00:06:10.000Additionally, further down the ticket, Republicans suffered as well.
00:06:14.000Obviously, the Democrats currently, I believe, have almost a full trifecta, right?
00:06:18.000They control every part of government.
00:06:20.000But also, they lost the AG race, where you may remember Jay Jones was sending texts fantasizing about killing his opponent's children.
00:06:28.000And okay, fair enough, that was a closer race.
00:06:31.000But still, the GOP got trounced, completely and totally demolished.
00:06:35.000And people will look at this and say, oh, well, you know, don't you know, Virginia as a state, elected, you know, on the state level, cast their votes for Democratic presidential candidates.
00:06:50.000There have been other states, namely Florida, who have been in similar situations and due to particularly good leadership,
00:06:56.000have been able to become solid red states.
00:06:59.000But during his four years in power, Youngkid did nothing like that at all.
00:07:03.000He did nothing to make the state redder, to make it more, to make it better ground, more fertile ground for his erstwhile political allies.
00:07:13.000He effectively sat on his hands, picked a horrible candidate.
00:07:17.000And now I and many others are bearing the consequences of that.
00:07:21.000Unfortunately, this is a classic conservative move we have seen done over and over and over again.
00:07:27.000And yet again, we are bearing the consequences for GOP incompetence.
00:07:32.000Yeah, before I go to Bogg, I just have to ask you, because I remember early on when Youngkin ended up winning, you know, there were basically two governors that Chris Ruffo seemed to be more or less grooming for the national stage.
00:07:47.000Ron DeSantis and Glenn Youngkin. I don't know if you remember this, but Ruffo was very early on heavily involved in pushing policy with Youngkin, you know, championing the, you know, gender diversity, you know, stuff and the, you know, DEI in schools and mainly the transgender issue.
00:08:04.000And that was at the time was a very powerful issue. Like that was something that was really animating parents. It was really animating GOP voters.
00:08:11.000You can understand why Youngkin was building a certain amount of momentum while not really being a particularly, you know, dynamic candidate simply on the back of something like that.
00:08:21.000And, you know, just nothing happened. Like nothing went in there with that. You can look at DeSantis and you can have quibbles with him going after Trump or, you know, different aspects of what he did.
00:08:34.880But what you can't say is he wasn't an effective governor. He was taking action. He was making big changes.
00:08:39.620And very importantly, something that Curtis Yarvin has pointed out repeatedly, you know, Florida went from being a purple state to a red state.
00:08:47.420It went from a purple state going blue to a pretty, pretty staunchly red state.
00:08:52.820And that shift occurred almost solely because a, the level of immigration into the state due to COVID was decidedly right wing, but also because DeSantis made the effort to clean up the voter rolls.
00:09:05.980You know, as, as, as, uh, Yarvin joked, I, I, you know, you could just say that DeSantis is the most charismatic and dynamic candidate in Florida history, or the other explanation is he actually cared about power and he took things that were going to win him and the party for their elections.
00:09:22.260And he actually did them. Why is someone like Youngkin who had theoretically, you know, kind of the same coaching from a operative, like Rubio, why was something similar not done there?
00:09:33.000Well, look, uh, I don't know of the band personally, so I can't tell you exactly what, but I can say what we see oftentimes with these sort of respectable establishment Republican types that quite simply winning is low status, right?
00:09:47.640Unseating the Democrats is low status. That's for icky gross people that we don't like.
00:09:52.180And if you, like he does, uh, seemingly desire an eternal career in beltway politics, right? He's gotten a very lucrative lobbying job now, uh, or a consulting job. I can't remember, but let's be honest. Does it matter?
00:10:04.140Uh, that door will be closed to you. If you become a man like Ron DeSantis, right? Ron DeSantis is persona non grata in left-wing America.
00:10:13.640Whereas Glenn Youngkin, I believe was plus 12 when he left. He's still very popular.
00:10:20.100So look, uh, this would have been a tough road to hoe no matter what, right? Virginia, especially Northern Virginia, which is the population center, it's obviously heavily tied up with government contracting and federal employees.
00:10:31.840So as you remember, there was a government shutdown at the time, which was cynically extended to just pass those elections. And it seems to have worked right. People are obviously motivated to vote, but it seems as if you're entirely correct. There was no real desire to entrench Virginia, to peel back the swamp, right? To, to keep it from becoming a satellite of, you know, the DC mega city at, for whatever reason, that was simply not a priority.
00:10:59.940And you were completely correct that he was handed a massive mandate on the trans issue and nothing happened. And again, we see this repeat pattern over and over and over again. And the consequences for losing, as we have seen, as we're about to see are dire. This isn't simply higher taxes, although we're getting that too. It is incredibly punishing laws on things that people like UI and bog like to do, right?
00:11:27.080State aid has become, the second amendment has become much harder. Being interested in motor vehicles is much, much harder. And again, those things won't actually make the nation safer. They won't make Virginia safer. It's already a relatively safe state.
00:11:37.840But as we see over and over and over again, the Democrats understand patronage. They understand giving state money to their friends and punishing their enemies. We'll get into the details later, obviously, but quite simply, Republicans by and large do not understand power. They do not understand politics. DeSantis being a possible exception to that rule.
00:11:56.700So, Bog, I've seen you say this several times and it's right every time. But, you know, you have Spanberger out there. And obviously, I think people knew she was significantly left wing, but she presented herself as somewhat reasonable, you know, a relatively moderate candidate on certain issues.
00:12:16.620And then the minute she got into power, it was just revolution, revolution, revolution. I think you said something like, you know, run like a moderate and then govern like Mao. Can you talk a little bit about why this is such an effective strategy for the Democrats and it just completely seems to elude Republicans entirely?
00:12:34.260Yes. So, you know, Spanberger, I think the one thing to a lot of the a lot of the energy, especially on the left during those elections was was focused on Mom Donnie as being a revolutionary candidate, not in terms of him becoming God Emperor, but but laying out a path for for future mayors and stuff.
00:12:59.400So, uh, maybe we'll probably see some stuff like that in California and stuff. But Spanberger is, um, but well down, there's certain things about her that make her particular. Now, Abigail Spanberger is Columbia. She, she, she was, uh, we merely adopted government. She was born in it. She, she, she worshiped Moloch there in the swamp from, from her,
00:13:29.400her father was a federal, uh, uh, law enforcement agency. This is all she ever wanted to be that. That's why, I mean, I'm sure to her, like, you know, if, if, if, uh, if, if, if, if, if that thing, uh, desired of her to do for X or Y policy, that would be, that would be fine by her. That's not, it's not the actual policy is not important, but yes, she does.
00:13:54.880If you ask her, um, especially when she was running her, uh, and she was like, uh, I, I just, uh, um, I'm just a, yeah, I see the thing about state politics is it's totally different than national politics. Think about, we are, we are all political, uh, you know, obsessives here.
00:14:12.200Even if you're listening to this, you, there's a, you, you are on the 1% of how many of people interest in politics, how much time, how many interviews did you really get to see of her?
00:14:25.160Now with me, it's like 120 seconds, probably total for most people.
00:14:31.380And you, you have to, this is really hard, but you know, if you read polls and you read like, uh, interviews and stuff, most people are not really connected to this stuff to them.
00:14:40.720They liked the idea of state politics.
00:15:06.480They matter a hell lot less there in DC because obviously if people don't know DC in the seventies and the eighties was the, was, uh, uh, I'm going to say it's important.
00:15:41.920It's nothing, it's nothing but, uh, uh, Ferrari dealerships and, and, uh, you know, um, you see it.
00:15:50.020Spanberger before, um, I don't know, in between, in between her, in between jobs at CIA and all these kinds of, uh, uh, cutouts and stuff was teaching English to, uh, Saudi princes there in Northern Virginia, which is, um, you know, this money, money, money, money.
00:16:09.320And, you know, that's what it's all about.
00:16:11.400But I would say ultimately we have a, we have a system for this.
00:16:31.820Um, this is, this, I don't want to get into deep waters here.
00:16:34.720People have written about, there's a lot of, uh, elder statesmen, the GOP who like choosing, um, their, the Robin to their Batman to be someone who could never challenge them.
00:16:46.280Who could, who, who just doesn't sit in their same stratosphere when it comes to that sort of thing.
00:16:51.400And I think we see that, uh, with, uh, the unfortunate, uh, woman who, uh, ran against Abigail Spanberger.
00:16:59.380You know, I guess to answer the question, ask the question is to answer it, but we'll, we'll go through the, we'll go through the process anyway, because I think it's important to keep hitting this, even if it's probably obvious to a lot of people who have heard, uh, us speak before, but there's always new people joining.
00:17:14.740I think it's critical, uh, guys, why is it so hard to like, I don't know, find a normal, reasonable white guy and run them as a Republican candidate?
00:17:23.980What is, what is it about that, uh, you know, that prospect that is so, uh, terrifying to the GOP?
00:17:31.300I mean, literally every time we have ever tried the, and then we'll run our guy and because he's black or Hispanic or whatever, they'll all vote for us.
00:17:40.480Like it has a perfect track record of failure.
00:17:43.860Uh, you know, I am sure that there are people who are qualified and when they're around, that's fine, but it's very clear that the GOP while talking about identity politics and, oh, we don't, we don't do identity politics.
00:17:57.760The very minute they think that they can appeal to minority, they're going to run a minority candidate, no matter how bad they are.
00:18:05.340And the amazing thing is that not only do they run the minority candidate, they run the minority court minority candidate, even when they know they can't possibly pick up a significant amount of those votes.
00:18:16.160Let's say you doubled, no, triple the black vote for Republicans.
00:18:20.940Would that get you anywhere near just picking up?
00:18:23.480I don't know, 3% more of the white vote in Virginia.
00:18:26.320You know, would it really make significant, uh, inroads into the electoral, uh, math there by, by, by winning, you know, double the amount of that community you normally do.
00:18:37.260I think, you know, Jay Bird was saying they, they won like what, six, 7% maybe on their best day.
00:19:36.220The consequences for failure are very clear.
00:19:39.680We understand what happens when you lose, even to a reported moderate, right?
00:19:46.000The power grabs made, you know, both in the kind of just quality of life for normal Virginians, but also to, you know, changes to the electoral process, right?
00:19:55.180Massively increasing, you know, the amount of time for votes to come in after the election, allowing no voter ID online elections, allowing people to vouch on behalf and cast ballots for people who are disabled or not there.
00:20:10.740And also, you know, barring the ability to check into, you know, a vote that's been cast electronically.
00:20:16.900Like these are very serious power grabs.
00:20:19.160They're changing the ways that elections are done.
00:20:21.300We know why we've seen this run before.
00:20:23.080So, you know, these sort of, you know, these sort of, you know, offerings to the state religion, right?
00:20:27.840These sort of, you know, platitudes towards the gods of DEI.
00:21:09.960But, you know, for instance, the changes to criminal justice, right?
00:21:13.400That very serious crimes no longer will, assuming this passes, right, have mandatory minimums, decriminalizing burglary in a number of different instances.
00:21:22.960These matter for normal, everyday people.
00:21:26.320And so the consequences of that sort of, you know, obsequious behavior towards the political left is not just that you don't get to be in charge and maybe you get another crack at it for years down the line.
00:21:39.520And Republicans in other states should remember that, you know, the consequences for, you know, being too deferential to the Trump administration, working alongside, you know, Border Patrol or anything like that.
00:22:00.640But again, the consequences for this sort of short-sighted, you know, ultimately futile virtue signaling to the political left is that you go to jail, to be perfectly blunt about it.
00:22:12.900So even if you're not, you know, an ideologue, even if you're not the sort of person that believes in the kind of eternal truths that the three of us do, most people don't want to go to jail.
00:22:23.380Like maybe Lindsey Graham would have a fun time, but like for everyone else, that isn't a great use of your time.
00:22:31.100Yeah, Bob, I feel like I am taking the crazy pills on this one because we'll get to all of the crazy stuff they passed, of course.
00:22:38.500But Burden pointed out that one of the first things they're doing here is rigging elections, right?
00:22:43.040They're making it, you know, you can just do it online.
00:22:45.540Who needs any kind of actual identification?
00:22:50.660I believe one of the laws passed is that any vote has to be counted by a machine.
00:22:54.860You're not even allowed to review it by hand.
00:22:57.220We know that we know that they are where we know that they are removing their cooperation with ICE, with the federal government when it comes to deportation.
00:23:06.620So they're going to ensure that illegals are in the in in the state and therefore are going to be able to vote because you're basically removing all mechanisms by which you would prevent voter fraud.
00:23:18.760I mean, it is very blatantly a situation where losing one election means losing all subsequent elections like that's where we're at at the moment.
00:23:26.700And it's particularly frustrating because we've watched several Republicans in state legislatures say, no, we won't redistrict.
00:23:48.340And the Democrats get in power and they're like, oh, no, we'll absolutely do this.
00:23:51.660We're going to radically redo the vote.
00:23:54.300And look, all of us here are skeptical of democracy.
00:23:56.980I don't think we need to go into the the problems with democracy.
00:23:59.880But assuming for a moment that you're a democracy enjoyer, like how can you sit back and just say, oh, well, whenever they're in power, they can change all the rules for voting to ensure that we never get elected again.
00:24:11.920And when we're in power, we have principles that say we can never touch this.
00:24:15.320I mean, even if you are like the world's like most mainstream, you know, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Prager, talk radio conservative, how can you look at this and not understand the absolute disaster you were already in the middle of watching?
00:26:08.140So, I mean, look, if you don't have signature match, I mean, if you know the names of people who live and live in a nursing home, do the math.
00:26:20.020Like, look, it's not it's not difficult.
00:27:44.720And this is something that feels stupid to say, but like, yes, being like the black conservative guy, it is powerful in like TV and debates and stuff like that.
00:27:58.860It's a gay guy, but he's against the Democrats.
00:28:01.460That's I know it sounds weird, but like these there's a lot of TV does have a huge effect on Republican politics and it does have a big effect there.
00:28:10.440Finally, on the point of collaboration, which is a big thing that we're talking about here.
00:28:17.040I'm going to read, but this is this is from a book written 50 years ago on the city of Chicago.
00:28:24.840But this is just really, really stuck with me.
00:29:25.380But they can get a smattering of patronage jobs from their own party, a medium-level job for themselves, and an opportunity to hold a title in the Republican Party.
00:29:36.120For mediocre men with limited goals in life, the payoff, small as it is, is sufficient.
00:29:42.600Yeah, this is a situation where we have the minor nobles, right?
00:29:47.940And the Democrats have the real royalty.
00:29:51.880The guys who are running in the Democratic Party, they're the natural rulers.
00:29:55.920They're the people who have the status.
00:29:57.340They're the people who have the connections.
00:29:58.720They're the ones who expect to profit, to rule, to have power, to wield it.
00:30:02.420The Republicans, well, they're just there to watch the chuds, right?
00:30:07.920You don't get to make a lot of decisions.
00:30:09.760You're never going to really have power, but you do get to have some status and you get to get to line your pockets from time to time.
00:30:16.900And yeah, nowhere to the degree that the Democrats do, but far more than you could expect, you know, running your car dealership back home if you're very lucky.
00:30:25.400And so they obviously grab a hold of something like this.
00:30:28.500And this means that ultimately what we're looking at long term is the fact that, you know, the national GOP and many conservative, you know, just the rank and file still think of this thing as Mr. Smith goes to Washington, right?
00:30:43.700Like we get together, we debate politics.
00:30:46.260Whoever makes the most convincing argument will win the votes and that will provide popular sovereignty to the winner.
00:30:52.580In reality, the left is playing machine politics.
00:30:56.240They are building political machines everywhere.
00:31:02.040They are ensuring that there is a dedicated voting base in every scenario, whether they do it through voter fraud or open borders or open patronage and bribery.
00:31:38.740You are going to work with the machine.
00:31:40.560The Republicans have to win the vote every single time.
00:31:43.480They have to fight for every single vote.
00:31:44.880The Democrats just start with a large amount of votes already pre-planned for them, and they feel like they have to push a few over to get to the threshold.
00:31:53.860And as long as that is the default way American politics works, the Republicans are going to lose because even when they win elections, they don't do anything with them.
00:32:17.600They're not willing to take any serious action.
00:32:19.900As soon as Democrats win, we see this complete leftist revolution.
00:32:23.600So let's get in to some of the bills that are now being passed.
00:32:27.140We already mentioned that they are no longer complying with ICE.
00:32:32.160They are no longer cooperating with ICE.
00:32:33.960So that means that they are effectively now a sanctuary state, not just a city in Virginia, but the entire state is now effectively a sanctuary state, just like something like Minnesota.
00:32:44.120They have also declared that they are no longer, like I said, allowing basically any way to check votes except electoral, except electronically, which definitely is not based entirely on the desire to commit fraud.
00:32:57.920They can also you can vote online and all these other things.
00:33:00.480You can have someone, you know, as your proxy or verify for you.
00:33:04.820We have the removing of the three strikes law.
00:33:08.180So basically, Virginia had a three strikes law eventually, and in that case, at least had to be like in the same field, like apparently with robbery, you needed to get like three robberies before escalated into something larger.
00:33:20.000Now they've removed that entirely, which is effectively removing criminality from large amounts of robbery.
00:33:25.800You also have a removal of mandatory minimums for things like rape, child pornography, all kinds of manslaughter, all kinds of assaulting a police officer.
00:33:39.760Wait, additionally, they have made it illegal to mention prior criminal history in court.
00:33:47.100So for instance, if you if you wanted to say not only has this person done this, but we can't tell you the fact that this is his 14th such conviction.
00:33:56.700That is just another kind of ancillary detail.
00:34:00.100I was going to say you can no longer mention repeat felonies.
00:34:02.720There's no longer additional penalties for repeat felonies.
00:34:05.860So your criminal your criminal history no longer matters when it comes to sentencing.
00:34:09.780You know, that basic thing that was like the, you know, like the building block of all jurisprudence in the United States now just out the window.
00:34:18.160Oh, and finally, as you say, they are literally just instituting the the Somali fraud scheme like directly.
00:34:27.420They're creating the exact same child care programs with the exact same incentive structures.
00:34:31.360And finally, the coup de grace on top of all of this, the one that's got everybody up in arms today with a lot of people.
00:34:38.360Yeah, I saw Meghan McCain saying, how could this be legal?
00:34:41.300And I just tried not to scream into the void for a good hour.
00:34:45.160You know, but but they they have now announced that their business, their state contracts will not be awarded to white guys under one hundred thousand dollars.
00:34:55.120So if there's any kind of payment under one hundred thousand dollars, white people don't even bother, man.
00:35:03.600White people can't can't can't make this money.
00:35:05.540And if it's over one hundred thousand dollars, you must give preference to a woman or minority is as long as that difference is is no more than five percent.
00:35:16.460So we're going to pay a five percent premium to women and people of color over white people just because they're women and people of color.
00:35:25.640You can have the lower bid as a white man, but you you have to outbid them by more than five percent, because if it's within that five percent margin, they still get preference.
00:35:34.920So explicit, open racial preference, completely eliminating white guys for anything under one hundred thousand dollars and is disadvantaging them for everything else.
00:35:45.560They passed this knowing Army Dillon sitting there threatening civil rights lawsuits.
00:35:50.580So clearly they don't think the Civil Rights Act is going to do anything about this.
00:35:54.860I know that'll spin all of us up on this one.
00:35:56.620But, you know, whoever would like to take that that incredible slate of legislation first, feel free to go ahead.
00:36:02.760Well, I'm torn because I love manslaughter and crime.
00:36:10.120You know, this is it's it's funny, but I mean, you you have you have look, this is serious business.
00:36:18.020I think of the pastor there in Minneapolis who I'm telling you what Don Lemon was doing was applying pressure and they wanted him to freak out.
00:36:29.040They he wanted him to swing on him so bad.
00:37:08.760Hopefully it is because of the the the idea of the Constitution, the fake one or the real one.
00:37:15.280Yes, because hopefully it is because of these these executive orders or whatever.
00:37:21.680But, you know, my the whole thing that I was angry, like, like when I first started getting into this kind of stuff and reading these alternative ideas, what made me angry was that no one on Fox.