The Auron MacIntyre Show - Dems Use Power to Conquer Virginia, Conservatives Cry ｜ Guests： J. Burden and Bogbeef ｜ 1⧸21⧸26

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00:00:37.000 The GOP lost a critical election in the Virginia governor's race.

00:00:43.000 Many people warned them, including a few people who happened to be on the stream with me today,

00:00:47.000 about running a silly DEI candidate in place of, you know,

00:00:51.000 a responsible person who could actually win a significant state.

00:00:54.000 Instead, the GOP attempted to run their diversity hire,

00:00:57.000 lost quite convincingly and then is now crying about the fact that their new governor, Spamburger,

00:01:05.000 and I'm going to call her Spamburger because it got locked in my brain and she will forever be a lunch meat. 0.97

00:01:10.000 But the fact that she is now in power means that the state legislature is pushing through all kinds of radical bills, anti-white bills.

00:01:19.000 They are discriminating openly against white business owners.

00:01:22.000 They are manipulating elections.

00:01:25.000 They are removing mandatory minimums on some of the most violent crimes you can imagine.

00:01:29.000 Uh, we're going to dive into all this with our guests today, Jay Burden and Bogby.

00:01:33.000 Thank you so much for coming on guys.

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00:03:12.000 All right, guys, so let's dive into this.

00:03:15.000 I am very, very, very tired of the GOP making exactly the same mistake and then whining about the consequences.

00:03:24.000 And this is no different.

00:03:26.000 Everything about this situation was entirely predictable.

00:03:29.000 They were warned about what they were doing.

00:03:31.000 They pushed through anyway.

00:03:32.000 And now that Spanberger is simply running rampant on Virginia, they are crying about, oh, it's not fair.

00:03:40.000 And how could the Democrats take all these actions?

00:03:42.000 And don't they care about the principles and the procedures and all this stuff?

00:03:46.000 But for people who are unfamiliar, Mr. Burden, you're a Virginia expert.

00:03:50.000 You're a local on the ground.

00:03:51.000 Can you give us a little bit of background?

00:03:53.000 How did she come to power? 0.78

00:03:55.000 What was the race?

00:03:56.000 Who was involved?

00:03:57.000 What are the dynamics and why did the GOP pick such a bad candidate?

00:04:02.000 Well, that's the operative word, right?

00:04:05.000 The GOP picked this candidate.

00:04:07.000 There was no primary.

00:04:08.000 So the previous Republican governor really shouldn't have won.

00:04:14.000 It was sort of a freak accident.

00:04:16.000 You may remember the Loudoun County scandal where there was a really horrific trans crime.

00:04:22.000 It was covered up in the school system for all of the reasons you might expect.

00:04:27.000 And this propelled Youngkin into office, right?

00:04:30.000 It took it from being a race that he was competitive but still losing to within the margin of error.

00:04:35.000 So he managed to get into office.

00:04:38.000 Winsome Earl Sears was his running mate, the former lieutenant governor of the state.

00:04:43.000 And he declared she would be the next candidate.

00:04:47.000 There was no primary.

00:04:48.000 So in addition to Winsome Earl Sears, shall we say, demographic qualifications, what else did she believe?

00:04:55.000 Well, she was anti-Trump.

00:04:57.000 She was anti, let's be honest, Confederate statues, which matters quite a lot in this state as well as many others in the South. 1.00

00:05:04.000 She was all in all a horrible candidate. 1.00

00:05:07.000 And the idea, and this is an idea you've seen from conservatives for a very long time,

00:05:11.000 is that the way that you defuse Democrat left-wing identity politics is to try it yourself.

00:05:17.000 Well, we found our female immigrant fill in the blank. 1.00

00:05:22.000 And did it work?

00:05:24.000 Obviously, no.

00:05:25.000 No, it did not.

00:05:26.000 Not even close.

00:05:27.000 This was a resounding defeat almost up and down the entire ticket.

00:05:31.000 I believe there were two counties in the entire state that shifted more Republican than they already were by a very scant margin.

00:05:38.000 This was a crushing defeat.

00:05:40.000 And this was predicted by myself, by Bug Beef's co-host Merrick, by many other figures as well.

00:05:46.000 And we see that instead of the moderate that she self-described as, our new governor is insanely radical.

00:05:54.000 She's pushing through incredibly radical policies on obviously the Second Amendment, but you've no doubt heard about that. 0.95

00:06:00.000 But also the trans issue, abortion, effectively just legalizing fraud, any number of kind of Democratic excesses all at once immediately. 0.75

00:06:10.000 Additionally, further down the ticket, Republicans suffered as well.

00:06:14.000 Obviously, the Democrats currently, I believe, have almost a full trifecta, right?

00:06:18.000 They control every part of government.

00:06:20.000 But also, they lost the AG race, where you may remember Jay Jones was sending texts fantasizing about killing his opponent's children.

00:06:28.000 And okay, fair enough, that was a closer race.

00:06:31.000 But still, the GOP got trounced, completely and totally demolished.

00:06:35.000 And people will look at this and say, oh, well, you know, don't you know, Virginia as a state, elected, you know, on the state level, cast their votes for Democratic presidential candidates.

00:06:48.000 And sure, that's true.

00:06:50.000 There have been other states, namely Florida, who have been in similar situations and due to particularly good leadership,

00:06:56.000 have been able to become solid red states.

00:06:59.000 But during his four years in power, Youngkid did nothing like that at all.

00:07:03.000 He did nothing to make the state redder, to make it more, to make it better ground, more fertile ground for his erstwhile political allies.

00:07:13.000 He effectively sat on his hands, picked a horrible candidate.

00:07:17.000 And now I and many others are bearing the consequences of that.

00:07:21.000 Unfortunately, this is a classic conservative move we have seen done over and over and over again.

00:07:27.000 And yet again, we are bearing the consequences for GOP incompetence.

00:07:32.000 Yeah, before I go to Bogg, I just have to ask you, because I remember early on when Youngkin ended up winning, you know, there were basically two governors that Chris Ruffo seemed to be more or less grooming for the national stage.

00:07:47.000 Ron DeSantis and Glenn Youngkin. I don't know if you remember this, but Ruffo was very early on heavily involved in pushing policy with Youngkin, you know, championing the, you know, gender diversity, you know, stuff and the, you know, DEI in schools and mainly the transgender issue.

00:08:04.000 And that was at the time was a very powerful issue. Like that was something that was really animating parents. It was really animating GOP voters.

00:08:11.000 You can understand why Youngkin was building a certain amount of momentum while not really being a particularly, you know, dynamic candidate simply on the back of something like that.

00:08:21.000 And, you know, just nothing happened. Like nothing went in there with that. You can look at DeSantis and you can have quibbles with him going after Trump or, you know, different aspects of what he did.

00:08:34.880 But what you can't say is he wasn't an effective governor. He was taking action. He was making big changes.

00:08:39.620 And very importantly, something that Curtis Yarvin has pointed out repeatedly, you know, Florida went from being a purple state to a red state.

00:08:47.420 It went from a purple state going blue to a pretty, pretty staunchly red state.

00:08:52.820 And that shift occurred almost solely because a, the level of immigration into the state due to COVID was decidedly right wing, but also because DeSantis made the effort to clean up the voter rolls.

00:09:05.980 You know, as, as, as, uh, Yarvin joked, I, I, you know, you could just say that DeSantis is the most charismatic and dynamic candidate in Florida history, or the other explanation is he actually cared about power and he took things that were going to win him and the party for their elections.

00:09:22.260 And he actually did them. Why is someone like Youngkin who had theoretically, you know, kind of the same coaching from a operative, like Rubio, why was something similar not done there?

00:09:33.000 Well, look, uh, I don't know of the band personally, so I can't tell you exactly what, but I can say what we see oftentimes with these sort of respectable establishment Republican types that quite simply winning is low status, right?

00:09:47.640 Unseating the Democrats is low status. That's for icky gross people that we don't like. 0.93

00:09:52.180 And if you, like he does, uh, seemingly desire an eternal career in beltway politics, right? He's gotten a very lucrative lobbying job now, uh, or a consulting job. I can't remember, but let's be honest. Does it matter? 0.94

00:10:04.140 Uh, that door will be closed to you. If you become a man like Ron DeSantis, right? Ron DeSantis is persona non grata in left-wing America.

00:10:13.640 Whereas Glenn Youngkin, I believe was plus 12 when he left. He's still very popular.

00:10:20.100 So look, uh, this would have been a tough road to hoe no matter what, right? Virginia, especially Northern Virginia, which is the population center, it's obviously heavily tied up with government contracting and federal employees. 0.97

00:10:31.840 So as you remember, there was a government shutdown at the time, which was cynically extended to just pass those elections. And it seems to have worked right. People are obviously motivated to vote, but it seems as if you're entirely correct. There was no real desire to entrench Virginia, to peel back the swamp, right? To, to keep it from becoming a satellite of, you know, the DC mega city at, for whatever reason, that was simply not a priority.

00:10:59.940 And you were completely correct that he was handed a massive mandate on the trans issue and nothing happened. And again, we see this repeat pattern over and over and over again. And the consequences for losing, as we have seen, as we're about to see are dire. This isn't simply higher taxes, although we're getting that too. It is incredibly punishing laws on things that people like UI and bog like to do, right? 0.62

00:11:27.080 State aid has become, the second amendment has become much harder. Being interested in motor vehicles is much, much harder. And again, those things won't actually make the nation safer. They won't make Virginia safer. It's already a relatively safe state.

00:11:37.840 But as we see over and over and over again, the Democrats understand patronage. They understand giving state money to their friends and punishing their enemies. We'll get into the details later, obviously, but quite simply, Republicans by and large do not understand power. They do not understand politics. DeSantis being a possible exception to that rule.

00:11:56.700 So, Bog, I've seen you say this several times and it's right every time. But, you know, you have Spanberger out there. And obviously, I think people knew she was significantly left wing, but she presented herself as somewhat reasonable, you know, a relatively moderate candidate on certain issues.

00:12:16.620 And then the minute she got into power, it was just revolution, revolution, revolution. I think you said something like, you know, run like a moderate and then govern like Mao. Can you talk a little bit about why this is such an effective strategy for the Democrats and it just completely seems to elude Republicans entirely?

00:12:34.260 Yes. So, you know, Spanberger, I think the one thing to a lot of the a lot of the energy, especially on the left during those elections was was focused on Mom Donnie as being a revolutionary candidate, not in terms of him becoming God Emperor, but but laying out a path for for future mayors and stuff.

00:12:59.400 So, uh, maybe we'll probably see some stuff like that in California and stuff. But Spanberger is, um, but well down, there's certain things about her that make her particular. Now, Abigail Spanberger is Columbia. She, she, she was, uh, we merely adopted government. She was born in it. She, she, she worshiped Moloch there in the swamp from, from her, 0.62

00:13:29.400 her father was a federal, uh, uh, law enforcement agency. This is all she ever wanted to be that. That's why, I mean, I'm sure to her, like, you know, if, if, if, uh, if, if, if, if, if that thing, uh, desired of her to do for X or Y policy, that would be, that would be fine by her. That's not, it's not the actual policy is not important, but yes, she does.

00:13:54.880 If you ask her, um, especially when she was running her, uh, and she was like, uh, I, I just, uh, um, I'm just a, yeah, I see the thing about state politics is it's totally different than national politics. Think about, we are, we are all political, uh, you know, obsessives here.

00:14:12.200 Even if you're listening to this, you, there's a, you, you are on the 1% of how many of people interest in politics, how much time, how many interviews did you really get to see of her?

00:14:25.160 Now with me, it's like 120 seconds, probably total for most people.

00:14:31.380 And you, you have to, this is really hard, but you know, if you read polls and you read like, uh, interviews and stuff, most people are not really connected to this stuff to them.

00:14:40.720 They liked the idea of state politics.

00:14:42.760 It was just, Oh, I don't know.

00:14:43.920 There's some, some, some corny person in a suit somewhere and they take care of everything that works great.

00:14:49.120 It works great with state politics for the increasingly small amount of people who, but they still matter.

00:14:57.120 They still matter.

00:14:57.980 There's still a certain amount of people who just kind of, I don't know.

00:15:01.800 I like that guy.

00:15:02.560 They said something nice on TV.

00:15:04.240 I would have, I voted for them or whatever.

00:15:05.600 They still matter.

00:15:06.480 They matter a hell lot less there in DC because obviously if people don't know DC in the seventies and the eighties was the, was, uh, uh, I'm going to say it's important.

00:15:19.120 It was the poorest place.

00:15:19.560 It was the poorest city of the United States.

00:15:21.240 It should have been.

00:15:22.340 What, what, what, what, what, what did, what did DC produce?

00:15:24.680 Nothing.

00:15:25.780 Of course it was, it didn't, it produces nothing.

00:15:30.060 Uh, what was the richest place?

00:15:32.260 It was, it was, it was Detroit making all the cars, et cetera.

00:15:35.960 Uh, now DC is the richest place in the United States.

00:15:40.260 It's no longer Silicon Valley.

00:15:41.920 It's nothing, it's nothing but, uh, uh, Ferrari dealerships and, and, uh, you know, um, you see it.

00:15:50.020 Spanberger before, um, I don't know, in between, in between her, in between jobs at CIA and all these kinds of, uh, uh, cutouts and stuff was teaching English to, uh, Saudi princes there in Northern Virginia, which is, um, you know, this money, money, money, money.

00:16:09.320 And, you know, that's what it's all about.

00:16:11.400 But I would say ultimately we have a, we have a system for this.

00:16:16.580 It's called a primary.

00:16:17.940 Why don't we do this? 0.96

00:16:18.920 She was chosen because hell he, uh, uh, young kid thought, Hey, this, I'm a white guy, black woman. 1.00

00:16:28.560 This, this will equal out my ticket or whatever. 0.93

00:16:30.520 This, this, this will be great.

00:16:31.820 Um, this is, this, I don't want to get into deep waters here.

00:16:34.720 People have written about, there's a lot of, uh, elder statesmen, the GOP who like choosing, um, their, the Robin to their Batman to be someone who could never challenge them.

00:16:46.280 Who could, who, who just doesn't sit in their same stratosphere when it comes to that sort of thing.

00:16:51.400 And I think we see that, uh, with, uh, the unfortunate, uh, woman who, uh, ran against Abigail Spanberger.

00:16:59.380 You know, I guess to answer the question, ask the question is to answer it, but we'll, we'll go through the, we'll go through the process anyway, because I think it's important to keep hitting this, even if it's probably obvious to a lot of people who have heard, uh, us speak before, but there's always new people joining.

00:17:14.740 I think it's critical, uh, guys, why is it so hard to like, I don't know, find a normal, reasonable white guy and run them as a Republican candidate?

00:17:23.980 What is, what is it about that, uh, you know, that prospect that is so, uh, terrifying to the GOP?

00:17:31.300 I mean, literally every time we have ever tried the, and then we'll run our guy and because he's black or Hispanic or whatever, they'll all vote for us.

00:17:39.460 Uh, that has failed.

00:17:40.480 Like it has a perfect track record of failure.

00:17:43.860 Uh, you know, I am sure that there are people who are qualified and when they're around, that's fine, but it's very clear that the GOP while talking about identity politics and, oh, we don't, we don't do identity politics.

00:17:56.200 We oppose identity politics.

00:17:57.760 The very minute they think that they can appeal to minority, they're going to run a minority candidate, no matter how bad they are. 0.81

00:18:05.340 And the amazing thing is that not only do they run the minority candidate, they run the minority court minority candidate, even when they know they can't possibly pick up a significant amount of those votes.

00:18:16.160 Let's say you doubled, no, triple the black vote for Republicans.

00:18:20.940 Would that get you anywhere near just picking up?

00:18:23.480 I don't know, 3% more of the white vote in Virginia.

00:18:26.320 You know, would it really make significant, uh, inroads into the electoral, uh, math there by, by, by winning, you know, double the amount of that community you normally do.

00:18:37.260 I think, you know, Jay Bird was saying they, they won like what, six, 7% maybe on their best day.

00:18:43.500 I mean, that's insane.

00:18:44.820 There's, there's, that's such a comparatively small amount of people you're sacrificing the entire election to appeal to it.

00:18:52.040 You, you, the only way you could convince yourself to do this is if you had bought into the religion of the left.

00:18:57.460 And it's just so clear that the conservatives, despite all their, oh, we don't see color.

00:19:01.660 It's a colorblind meritocracy.

00:19:03.280 We don't care about identity politics.

00:19:05.340 I mean, it's just an obvious lie.

00:19:07.260 They're just bad at identity politics.

00:19:09.100 They're just scared of playing identity politics for the one group that actually votes for them.

00:19:13.120 They're fine with identity politics.

00:19:14.740 It will invest in them at every turn, even when they fail.

00:19:17.300 That's how dedicated the Republican party is to identity politics.

00:19:21.140 They will play the game and lose and be happy for the chance.

00:19:24.920 Brag about that.

00:19:26.260 They had the chance to play the game of identity politics instead of just finding someone who can actually get elected in any given state.

00:19:34.000 Well, and to that point, right?

00:19:36.220 The consequences for failure are very clear.

00:19:39.680 We understand what happens when you lose, even to a reported moderate, right?

00:19:46.000 The power grabs made, you know, both in the kind of just quality of life for normal Virginians, but also to, you know, changes to the electoral process, right?

00:19:55.180 Massively increasing, you know, the amount of time for votes to come in after the election, allowing no voter ID online elections, allowing people to vouch on behalf and cast ballots for people who are disabled or not there.

00:20:10.740 And also, you know, barring the ability to check into, you know, a vote that's been cast electronically.

00:20:16.900 Like these are very serious power grabs.

00:20:19.160 They're changing the ways that elections are done.

00:20:21.300 We know why we've seen this run before.

00:20:23.080 So, you know, these sort of, you know, these sort of, you know, offerings to the state religion, right?

00:20:27.840 These sort of, you know, platitudes towards the gods of DEI.

00:20:31.380 Well, it's not just that you lose.

00:20:33.760 It's not just that you, you know, you reorganize, you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and, you know, get a new candidate next time.

00:20:41.080 It's like, no, you have dramatically made your job harder.

00:20:44.620 You do not get to be the same sort of political force you were.

00:20:48.560 You have taken real lasting damage, not only to your political chances as a Republican in the state, but also to the state itself, right?

00:20:57.840 These consequences are very real.

00:20:59.740 And the difference between even a kind of chamber of commerce Republican type and, you know, Mao in a blonde wig, that's dramatic, right?

00:21:08.840 We'll get into it.

00:21:09.960 But, you know, for instance, the changes to criminal justice, right?

00:21:13.400 That very serious crimes no longer will, assuming this passes, right, have mandatory minimums, decriminalizing burglary in a number of different instances.

00:21:22.960 These matter for normal, everyday people.

00:21:26.320 And so the consequences of that sort of, you know, obsequious behavior towards the political left is not just that you don't get to be in charge and maybe you get another crack at it for years down the line.

00:21:37.300 You are losing, really losing.

00:21:39.520 And Republicans in other states should remember that, you know, the consequences for, you know, being too deferential to the Trump administration, working alongside, you know, Border Patrol or anything like that.

00:21:53.860 Well, they have made that clear.

00:21:55.320 They want to send those people to jail. 0.99

00:21:57.760 Pete Hegseth might go to the Hague.

00:21:59.420 Again, might, who knows?

00:22:00.640 But again, the consequences for this sort of short-sighted, you know, ultimately futile virtue signaling to the political left is that you go to jail, to be perfectly blunt about it.

00:22:12.900 So even if you're not, you know, an ideologue, even if you're not the sort of person that believes in the kind of eternal truths that the three of us do, most people don't want to go to jail.

00:22:23.380 Like maybe Lindsey Graham would have a fun time, but like for everyone else, that isn't a great use of your time.

00:22:28.000 So act accordingly, I guess.

00:22:31.100 Yeah, Bob, I feel like I am taking the crazy pills on this one because we'll get to all of the crazy stuff they passed, of course.

00:22:38.500 But Burden pointed out that one of the first things they're doing here is rigging elections, right?

00:22:43.040 They're making it, you know, you can just do it online.

00:22:45.540 Who needs any kind of actual identification?

00:22:50.660 I believe one of the laws passed is that any vote has to be counted by a machine.

00:22:54.860 You're not even allowed to review it by hand.

00:22:57.220 We know that we know that they are where we know that they are removing their cooperation with ICE, with the federal government when it comes to deportation.

00:23:06.620 So they're going to ensure that illegals are in the in in the state and therefore are going to be able to vote because you're basically removing all mechanisms by which you would prevent voter fraud.

00:23:18.760 I mean, it is very blatantly a situation where losing one election means losing all subsequent elections like that's where we're at at the moment.

00:23:26.700 And it's particularly frustrating because we've watched several Republicans in state legislatures say, no, we won't redistrict.

00:23:33.580 We refuse to force this.

00:23:34.940 We're seeing a Republican senator saying we refuse to pass the FACE Act.

00:23:39.440 We're all across the board.

00:23:41.400 Republicans are saying we will not clean up the voter rolls.

00:23:43.820 We will not force cleaner elections.

00:23:46.800 We will not do this.

00:23:48.340 And the Democrats get in power and they're like, oh, no, we'll absolutely do this.

00:23:51.660 We're going to radically redo the vote.

00:23:54.300 And look, all of us here are skeptical of democracy.

00:23:56.980 I don't think we need to go into the the problems with democracy.

00:23:59.880 But assuming for a moment that you're a democracy enjoyer, like how can you sit back and just say, oh, well, whenever they're in power, they can change all the rules for voting to ensure that we never get elected again.

00:24:11.920 And when we're in power, we have principles that say we can never touch this.

00:24:15.320 I mean, even if you are like the world's like most mainstream, you know, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Prager, talk radio conservative, how can you look at this and not understand the absolute disaster you were already in the middle of watching?

00:24:32.540 Yes, it's locking states up.

00:24:36.500 So this is something that I think, you know, we saw here in Florida.

00:24:41.260 I've heard in Ohio.

00:24:42.380 I don't know as much about Ohio, but we definitely seen, you know, a lot of these states took serious action.

00:24:50.580 If you look at what Florida's laws with ballots, they're very, very good. 0.98

00:24:56.860 And this is why, you know, if you're a Democrat, you're screwed.

00:25:01.640 You'd be running in Florida from here on out because you can't cook up votes like this anymore.

00:25:08.360 I think everyone's looking around and a lot of state, a lot of any of these, of course, most states are out of reach.

00:25:15.480 Most states have whatever, too much, too much rural or too much urban to be in play.

00:25:21.780 But all your swing states right now are being locked up.

00:25:25.300 And I think I think we're seeing that in Virginia.

00:25:29.460 We've obviously on our side.

00:25:31.460 We saw that in Florida and Ohio.

00:25:32.880 Very, very, very important.

00:25:34.760 Very, very important.

00:25:35.680 This is going to be big.

00:25:36.720 Now, we've seen.

00:25:38.020 OK, maybe we could.

00:25:39.960 And by the way, if you don't know, I mean, I want to get into it too deep.

00:25:43.060 I know you used to you get banned and stuff.

00:25:44.860 But I mean, remember, I don't the idea of democracy.

00:25:48.800 No, I don't like democracy.

00:25:49.800 However, you know, I'm not God Emperor.

00:25:51.580 This is this is the game that we're born.

00:25:54.300 This is the game we must play from for right now.

00:25:57.160 This is the game.

00:25:58.300 So this is serious business.

00:26:00.240 This is this is people's lives are on the line here, which obviously these Democrats understand.

00:26:07.080 That is the game.

00:26:08.140 So, I mean, look, if you don't have signature match, I mean, if you know the names of people who live and live in a nursing home, do the math.

00:26:20.020 Like, look, it's not it's not difficult.

00:26:21.880 You can do it.

00:26:22.380 You can do anything.

00:26:23.300 That's just signature match.

00:26:25.000 How often does that even come up?

00:26:26.900 Now we're doing like you can vouch for people.

00:26:29.720 Look, it look.

00:26:31.200 It's it's very this is very, very serious.

00:26:34.080 Real quick on on the whole DI stuff like this. 0.99

00:26:37.160 What what a lot of these Republicans don't understand is that Democrat votes are not based on like we're we're morons. 0.89

00:26:48.040 We are outside of we are really outside of politics. 0.96

00:26:51.760 We want in, but we're outside of politics.

00:26:54.740 Democrats are not George Wallace, the most racist man, who the great governor of the state of Alabama.

00:27:03.140 One massive amounts like he won, like 90 percent of the black vote. 0.86

00:27:09.760 You know why?

00:27:10.280 Because black votes are not based upon the this this ideal black vote or whatever or in all these other minority votes.

00:27:19.540 They're not based on.

00:27:21.220 Oh, did you see?

00:27:22.540 Did you watch meet the press?

00:27:24.020 You know, did you see the interview with you on policy discussions?

00:27:26.840 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:27.860 Yeah.

00:27:28.400 They will starve if they don't continue to get the checks from the government. 0.98

00:27:32.420 All these rich ass people in northern Virginia, they live off of the government. 1.00

00:27:37.960 Whoever keeps the money coming in is going to get the vote. 0.98

00:27:41.980 They don't care what color they are.

00:27:44.120 We do. 0.97

00:27:44.720 And this is something that feels stupid to say, but like, yes, being like the black conservative guy, it is powerful in like TV and debates and stuff like that. 0.97

00:27:57.220 It's like, ah, did you see? 0.98

00:27:58.860 It's a gay guy, but he's against the Democrats.

00:28:01.460 That's I know it sounds weird, but like these there's a lot of TV does have a huge effect on Republican politics and it does have a big effect there.

00:28:10.440 Finally, on the point of collaboration, which is a big thing that we're talking about here.

00:28:17.040 I'm going to read, but this is this is from a book written 50 years ago on the city of Chicago.

00:28:24.840 But this is just really, really stuck with me.

00:28:29.400 The rationale of collaboration.

00:28:32.780 Why do so many Republican ward committeemen cooperate with the Democratic machine in Chicago?

00:28:38.320 The answer to that probably lies in a variety of reasons.

00:28:41.840 In some cases, Republican committeemen are professional politicians in politics for almost purely economic or political advantage.

00:28:49.340 They have little interest in the party, its philosophy or its future prospects.

00:28:55.700 It is a way to make a living.

00:28:57.420 The work isn't too hard.

00:28:59.080 The demands are not great.

00:29:00.920 And collaborating with the Democrats is a form of Social Security.

00:29:04.640 Since the Democrats will probably be in the office for the foreseeable future.

00:29:09.940 For others, there is a pragmatic recognition of the facts of political life in their wards.

00:29:15.260 Without jobs, money and workers, the best they can hope for is to make a legitimate effort and bring in as good a vote as they can.

00:29:24.620 This is the good part.

00:29:25.380 But they can get a smattering of patronage jobs from their own party, a medium-level job for themselves, and an opportunity to hold a title in the Republican Party.

00:29:36.120 For mediocre men with limited goals in life, the payoff, small as it is, is sufficient.

00:29:42.600 Yeah, this is a situation where we have the minor nobles, right?

00:29:47.940 And the Democrats have the real royalty.

00:29:51.880 The guys who are running in the Democratic Party, they're the natural rulers.

00:29:55.920 They're the people who have the status.

00:29:57.340 They're the people who have the connections.

00:29:58.720 They're the ones who expect to profit, to rule, to have power, to wield it.

00:30:02.420 The Republicans, well, they're just there to watch the chuds, right? 1.00

00:30:06.100 It's more of a managerial position.

00:30:07.920 You don't get to make a lot of decisions.

00:30:09.760 You're never going to really have power, but you do get to have some status and you get to get to line your pockets from time to time.

00:30:16.900 And yeah, nowhere to the degree that the Democrats do, but far more than you could expect, you know, running your car dealership back home if you're very lucky.

00:30:25.400 And so they obviously grab a hold of something like this.

00:30:28.500 And this means that ultimately what we're looking at long term is the fact that, you know, the national GOP and many conservative, you know, just the rank and file still think of this thing as Mr. Smith goes to Washington, right?

00:30:43.700 Like we get together, we debate politics.

00:30:46.260 Whoever makes the most convincing argument will win the votes and that will provide popular sovereignty to the winner.

00:30:52.580 In reality, the left is playing machine politics.

00:30:56.240 They are building political machines everywhere.

00:30:58.280 They are rigging the rules.

00:31:00.660 They're bribing people.

00:31:02.040 They are ensuring that there is a dedicated voting base in every scenario, whether they do it through voter fraud or open borders or open patronage and bribery.

00:31:11.700 They don't care.

00:31:12.760 They don't care why you vote for them.

00:31:14.480 They care that you vote for them.

00:31:15.980 You're not going to hear them making stories about how, well, no, we would never win this through, you know, some other means.

00:31:22.240 We would never deceive people.

00:31:23.560 No, it's not about principle.

00:31:25.140 It's about power.

00:31:26.140 And they secure it time after time after time.

00:31:28.720 The vote is a machine.

00:31:30.220 You will vote Democrat.

00:31:32.160 End of the story, right?

00:31:33.840 There is no debate.

00:31:35.140 You're in the right demographic.

00:31:36.680 You're a beneficiary of the machine.

00:31:38.740 You are going to work with the machine.

00:31:40.560 The Republicans have to win the vote every single time.

00:31:43.480 They have to fight for every single vote.

00:31:44.880 The Democrats just start with a large amount of votes already pre-planned for them, and they feel like they have to push a few over to get to the threshold.

00:31:53.860 And as long as that is the default way American politics works, the Republicans are going to lose because even when they win elections, they don't do anything with them.

00:32:02.960 They never secure power.

00:32:04.120 They never take any victories that make the next victory easier.

00:32:07.580 Instead, all they do is go around saying, well, I guess maybe, you know, we'll try to shrink some government, cut a tax or two.

00:32:17.020 That's it.

00:32:17.600 They're not willing to take any serious action.

00:32:19.900 As soon as Democrats win, we see this complete leftist revolution.

00:32:23.600 So let's get in to some of the bills that are now being passed.

00:32:27.140 We already mentioned that they are no longer complying with ICE.

00:32:32.160 They are no longer cooperating with ICE.

00:32:33.960 So that means that they are effectively now a sanctuary state, not just a city in Virginia, but the entire state is now effectively a sanctuary state, just like something like Minnesota.

00:32:44.120 They have also declared that they are no longer, like I said, allowing basically any way to check votes except electoral, except electronically, which definitely is not based entirely on the desire to commit fraud.

00:32:57.920 They can also you can vote online and all these other things.

00:33:00.480 You can have someone, you know, as your proxy or verify for you.

00:33:04.820 We have the removing of the three strikes law.

00:33:08.180 So basically, Virginia had a three strikes law eventually, and in that case, at least had to be like in the same field, like apparently with robbery, you needed to get like three robberies before escalated into something larger.

00:33:20.000 Now they've removed that entirely, which is effectively removing criminality from large amounts of robbery.

00:33:25.800 You also have a removal of mandatory minimums for things like rape, child pornography, all kinds of manslaughter, all kinds of assaulting a police officer.

00:33:38.180 Yes, sir.

00:33:39.760 Wait, additionally, they have made it illegal to mention prior criminal history in court.

00:33:47.100 So for instance, if you if you wanted to say not only has this person done this, but we can't tell you the fact that this is his 14th such conviction.

00:33:56.700 That is just another kind of ancillary detail.

00:33:59.300 Yes, that was my next.

00:34:00.100 I was going to say you can no longer mention repeat felonies.

00:34:02.720 There's no longer additional penalties for repeat felonies.

00:34:05.860 So your criminal your criminal history no longer matters when it comes to sentencing.

00:34:09.780 You know, that basic thing that was like the, you know, like the building block of all jurisprudence in the United States now just out the window.

00:34:18.160 Oh, and finally, as you say, they are literally just instituting the the Somali fraud scheme like directly. 0.93

00:34:25.600 They're just reinstituting it.

00:34:27.420 They're creating the exact same child care programs with the exact same incentive structures.

00:34:31.360 And finally, the coup de grace on top of all of this, the one that's got everybody up in arms today with a lot of people.

00:34:38.360 Yeah, I saw Meghan McCain saying, how could this be legal?

00:34:41.300 And I just tried not to scream into the void for a good hour.

00:34:45.160 You know, but but they they have now announced that their business, their state contracts will not be awarded to white guys under one hundred thousand dollars.

00:34:55.120 So if there's any kind of payment under one hundred thousand dollars, white people don't even bother, man. 0.65

00:35:00.040 You cannot you. 0.70

00:35:01.140 This is South Africa.

00:35:02.460 It's over. 0.97

00:35:03.600 White people can't can't can't make this money. 0.99

00:35:05.540 And if it's over one hundred thousand dollars, you must give preference to a woman or minority is as long as that difference is is no more than five percent. 0.95

00:35:16.460 So we're going to pay a five percent premium to women and people of color over white people just because they're women and people of color. 0.99

00:35:25.640 You can have the lower bid as a white man, but you you have to outbid them by more than five percent, because if it's within that five percent margin, they still get preference. 0.60

00:35:34.920 So explicit, open racial preference, completely eliminating white guys for anything under one hundred thousand dollars and is disadvantaging them for everything else.

00:35:44.500 And guess what?

00:35:45.560 They passed this knowing Army Dillon sitting there threatening civil rights lawsuits.

00:35:50.580 So clearly they don't think the Civil Rights Act is going to do anything about this.

00:35:54.860 I know that'll spin all of us up on this one.

00:35:56.620 But, you know, whoever would like to take that that incredible slate of legislation first, feel free to go ahead.

00:36:02.760 Well, I'm torn because I love manslaughter and crime.

00:36:10.120 You know, this is it's it's funny, but I mean, you you have you have look, this is serious business.

00:36:18.020 I think of the pastor there in Minneapolis who I'm telling you what Don Lemon was doing was applying pressure and they wanted him to freak out.

00:36:29.040 They he wanted him to swing on him so bad.

00:36:31.900 He was all over that pastor.

00:36:33.640 He was on top of him.

00:36:34.620 I mean, hey, hey, hey, don't push me, man.

00:36:36.600 And hey, I'm just here to work.

00:36:38.340 We're just here to worship.

00:36:39.640 Hey, well, but what's going on?

00:36:40.860 What do you think about this?

00:36:41.980 And look that you must have ice cold veins once you step in this arena, because these people are this is serious, man.

00:36:50.420 This is this is war.

00:36:51.360 These people are are you can look you can look look at what they've done here.

00:36:56.100 It is it's on.

00:36:59.320 Well, let's let's talk about this.

00:37:01.400 The the the contracting thing.

00:37:03.820 Now, harm me.

00:37:04.820 Dylan is saying, well, this is obviously unconstitutional.

00:37:07.820 Hmm.

00:37:08.760 Hopefully it is because of the the the idea of the Constitution, the fake one or the real one.

00:37:15.280 Yes, because hopefully it is because of these these executive orders or whatever.

00:37:21.680 But, you know, my the whole thing that I was angry, like, like when I first started getting into this kind of stuff and reading these alternative ideas, what made me angry was that no one on Fox.

00:37:33.640 No, I never read anywhere.

00:37:35.760 No one told me that about about disparate impact and all these kinds of things like, look, you know, that law.

00:37:41.860 It's really simple.

00:37:42.900 I mean, it's very obvious.

00:37:44.800 Anyone should do this if you're able to look any group that votes 70 percent plus Democrat.

00:37:52.600 Oh, you have to give them money before you give money Republican.

00:37:56.620 I mean, why wouldn't you do that?

00:37:58.380 Now, of course, this gets into, you know, why you even have I mean, this gets into very, very, very deep quarters quick.

00:38:05.440 But I mean, that that is it's just, hey, Democrats won.

00:38:10.840 You have to give money.

00:38:11.780 You have to give money to us.

00:38:12.780 It's very, very simple.

00:38:15.820 Oh, 100 percent.

00:38:17.260 Like, clearly, that's what this is.

00:38:19.540 Oh, now on, you know, everyone who gets, you know, a little bit of, you know, a little bit off the government teat.

00:38:26.540 Well, of course, you know, you could probably run the general, you know, statistics on government contractors.

00:38:32.860 But let's just make that more explicit, right?

00:38:35.340 We said earlier that, you know, the black voters in Virginia went 93, 92 percent to Spanberger.

00:38:41.940 Well, guess what?

00:38:43.600 You know, you just got given a pathway to free money, right?

00:38:47.140 You don't even have to be good at your job.

00:38:48.340 You can be at least 5 percent less efficient.

00:38:51.620 You can charge 5 percent more than your competition and you'll be given a leg up.

00:38:55.320 Now, let's assume that there are people in that industry who want to stay in that industry, right?

00:39:02.100 Who want to continue to get government contracts? 0.88

00:39:05.260 Well, if you're a firm, right, that relies on government contracts, what are you going to do?

00:39:09.800 When you're hiring your next CEO, when you're looking for your next executive team, who are you going to be looking for?

00:39:16.960 Oh, the guys that give up, not the guys, the people who give us an advantage.

00:39:21.280 So this is a double system of patronage, right?

00:39:23.500 You are providing entry on two different levels to your guys, to your voters.

00:39:28.760 And really, that's what it is.

00:39:31.300 That's all this is.

00:39:32.680 The Second Amendment stuff, anything else, is punishing their enemies, the people they hate,

00:39:38.320 and, you know, the gross, icky part of the state that I live, the chuds. 1.00

00:39:41.720 We're punishing them and rewarding our friends.

00:39:44.640 That's all this is.

00:39:46.200 When I say all, I don't mean to say it's inconsequential, but it's a very simple formula.

00:39:50.420 One that Democrats clearly understand.

00:39:53.420 Republicans clearly do not.

00:39:55.120 And when we look at the scoreboard for the last 80 years of politics, although, let's

00:39:59.500 be honest, we could take it back 100, even longer than that, who's winning?

00:40:03.460 And at a certain point, when you're down 100 to zero, you know, it's starting to enter the

00:40:08.880 third quarter.

00:40:10.100 When do you look up and say, hey, maybe what those guys are doing is the right strategy.

00:40:16.940 However, apparently, our guys have looked at that and said, well, clearly the problem is

00:40:22.600 we're not doing our game plan hard enough, the game plan that led us to this absolute

00:40:27.240 disaster of a situation.

00:40:29.440 And yeah, until that changes, we will continue to see these results.

00:40:34.360 A great example, right, is the absolute feckless Indiana Republicans who had a chance to redistrict

00:40:39.040 their state.

00:40:39.980 They apparently struck some sort of deal behind the scenes with the Republican or with the

00:40:45.260 Democrats of Maryland saying, hey, if you don't do this, we won't do this.

00:40:49.140 And not only did the Indiana Republicans get snookered, right?

00:40:54.400 The Maryland Dems are apparently going straight ahead with what they wanted to do anyway, but

00:40:59.160 they completely blew their opportunity. 0.93

00:41:00.820 So even in a situation where they control all the cards, they're so inept at politics that

00:41:05.880 they're not only screwing up their own state, but screwing up others.

00:41:09.360 It's almost impressive, right?

00:41:11.040 Well, and here's how impossible this stuff is to get rid of, like just to give people

00:41:17.180 an idea of once these programs are dug in, why they're such a problem.

00:41:21.820 So in the last day or two, Chris Rufo, to his credit, has started a campaign because he

00:41:27.340 discovered that the Trump administration, you know, the one that wrote a executive order

00:41:32.280 banning DEI across the board in the executive branch, their small business division is still

00:41:40.460 preferring minorities and women when it comes to small business loans.

00:41:45.680 Like literally the Republican Trump administration, the one who has declared DEI the enemy, the

00:41:51.600 one who signed an executive order banning DEI is still, as of this moment, hand walking

00:41:58.760 women and minorities through the process to prefer them for small business loans over white 1.00

00:42:05.300 men.

00:42:05.600 In fact, I know personally a business that put a Hispanic woman in charge for no other 1.00

00:42:12.400 reason than it qualified them to get this loan because that was already the policy under

00:42:18.300 Biden.

00:42:18.640 And now it's still the policy under Trump.

00:42:20.920 So even in an administration that has explicitly repudiated this ideology, which has written

00:42:25.480 executive orders banning this ideology buried in the bureaucracy, still functioning a year

00:42:32.280 into the administration, is a anti-white law that is anti-white directive that is still

00:42:40.060 keeping white guys from getting the same loans that women and minorities would get.

00:42:46.260 And so this is, again, and that's in something where we have control, theoretically, like we

00:42:51.080 have won the victory.

00:42:52.600 These people are aware of everything that's going on.

00:42:55.100 They are trying to eliminate it and they can't even find like obvious giant programs in which

00:43:01.200 they are preferring people who would never vote for them and hate their guts and want

00:43:05.160 them dead over their own voters.

00:43:07.660 So you think that's going somewhere in Virginia?

00:43:10.580 I mean, you think Armie Dillon's going to get rid of that when it's literally happening 0.98

00:43:14.240 inside her own administration?

00:43:15.740 It really is insane that we continue to just, you know, this is one of those scenarios where

00:43:21.940 the whole like it just needs to be blown up seems far more reasonable than pretending

00:43:26.500 we're going to go around and root out every little bit of this stuff when it's baked so

00:43:30.640 deeply into the system.

00:43:32.660 Yeah.

00:43:33.280 You know, there's a lot of, I think there are some good, because look, let's be clear.

00:43:39.440 You know, the reason I read that passage, this is collaboration.

00:43:42.260 Like, if you look at these laws, like this is hard to, I didn't understand this, but

00:43:47.440 the, like, what is the, like, how does the government work?

00:43:52.380 The government is like, you could replace like 99% of the people work for the work for

00:43:58.140 the government are contracting employees.

00:44:00.600 The government puts out bids and who wins the bid?

00:44:05.000 It's the lowest bidder.

00:44:06.400 So you're like, oh, well, it's just 10% or whatever.

00:44:09.160 No, that, that, that means they win the bid.

00:44:11.620 So who wins the bid?

00:44:13.700 It's things where, where as long, all we care about is that white men are not in charge. 0.99

00:44:19.600 That's the, like, that's like, look, that is psychotic, man. 0.75

00:44:23.760 Like, I don't think Stalin would have done something like that. 0.73

00:44:26.700 That's crazy.

00:44:27.920 That is, that's completely crazy.

00:44:29.760 If you go along with that, you look, that is, that is serious.

00:44:35.060 That is collaboration with the enemy. 0.53

00:44:36.800 Because what, what you have, there are people that are like, well, you know, I don't hate

00:44:42.460 other races.

00:44:43.260 I don't hate single women, stuff like this. 1.00

00:44:45.600 So, well, I need to, every policy I write needs to have every, all these voters in mind.

00:44:51.680 That's not how politics works.

00:44:54.160 You represent your clients.

00:44:56.680 Here's the thing.

00:44:58.000 They have representatives.

00:45:00.080 If the Republican Party did not, I know we had this, we were worried that the historically

00:45:09.580 black colleges were going to miss out on something.

00:45:12.600 The thing is, they have, you don't have to worry about them. 0.81

00:45:18.180 They have the Democrats.

00:45:20.020 Let me tell you, they'll be fine.

00:45:22.460 They'll, they'll, they'll land on their feet.

00:45:24.400 You know why?

00:45:24.880 Because they actually have people that, they have the Democrats and they're going to make

00:45:29.020 sure that they get their stuff.

00:45:31.740 You worry about yours.

00:45:33.540 That's how the system works.

00:45:35.040 You're the prosecution.

00:45:36.680 You try to convict the guy.

00:45:38.140 You don't worry about, about what, what could, what could, they have a defense.

00:45:44.100 That's their, you have to represent your client.

00:45:47.200 You must represent your client.

00:45:48.940 That is your job.

00:45:50.440 You are a representative.

00:45:52.180 You speak on their behalf.

00:45:54.020 That is the job.

00:45:55.960 That's, that's what we need.

00:45:57.280 And this is serious business, man.

00:45:58.860 And it's getting more serious by the day.

00:46:01.040 There are people scandalized every day.

00:46:03.780 Now we watch you, Minneapolis, look, Minneapolis.

00:46:06.700 I mean, look, I tried to act like I am too cold for this, but I mean, they're even breaking

00:46:12.660 the patronage model.

00:46:14.140 It's just actually the people in the government.

00:46:16.200 They're protesting.

00:46:17.500 I don't even know.

00:46:18.540 I don't even know how to do the math on that.

00:46:20.620 It's like actually the government.

00:46:22.180 I don't know that it gets weird.

00:46:26.120 Yeah.

00:46:26.600 Normally you at least have some kind of plausible deniability by acting through foot soldiers

00:46:31.020 and agents.

00:46:31.660 But yeah, when you're just directly injecting yourself, when it's very clear, there's a,

00:46:36.280 you know.

00:46:36.480 Yeah.

00:46:36.640 I'm the state attorney throwing the Molotov cocktail.

00:46:39.420 Yeah.

00:46:39.960 Right.

00:46:40.280 I think, I think we're pretty deep into it.

00:46:42.520 Guys.

00:46:43.300 I know we could go on about this, but I do have to be feed.

00:46:46.560 I'm going to be on a Tim cast tonight.

00:46:48.180 Uh, so I do have to travel.

00:46:50.440 So let's get over to, uh, the questions of our people here real quick, but before we

00:46:54.760 do, uh, Mr. Beef, uh, where can people find the good old boys program?

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00:47:14.580 It's doing very well.

00:47:15.440 Lots of people enjoying it.

00:47:17.200 Um, about six, we do about six hours of, of, uh, of, uh, analysis commentary with a real

00:47:24.520 classics guy.

00:47:25.700 Um, and, uh, that's on our Patreon, uh, dot com good old boys, G O O D O L B O Y Z. 1.00

00:47:31.680 I'm on Twitter as bog underscore beef.

00:47:34.020 And Mr.

00:47:35.480 Burden, where do people find your show?

00:47:37.160 Even if you haven't seen HBO's Rome.

00:47:40.900 Oh, that that's a hundred percent true.

00:47:42.460 I have not, uh, look, uh, I'm Gen Z comes with the territory.

00:47:47.520 I have seen no cultural products really whatsoever.

00:47:50.760 Uh, but I will reiterate that's all you do.

00:47:53.340 A hundred percent.

00:47:53.860 Like if you guys could edit Rome with like subway surfer on the bottom, that would really

00:47:58.920 be great for me.

00:47:59.820 That's really the only way I can get through something.

00:48:01.340 I will say I've been listening to that series.

00:48:03.200 It is great.

00:48:04.140 It's, it's quite good.

00:48:04.980 So be sure to check that out on the good old boys, Patreon, my stuff, Jay Burden show,

00:48:08.780 Apple, Spotify, YouTube, anywhere you listen to podcasts.

00:48:11.080 And again, Oran, thanks for having me, dude.

00:48:13.620 Of course.

00:48:14.300 Let's go to the questions of the people here real quick.

00:48:17.320 Brent Zwingel says, I'm sure my turbo lib family in Charlottesville is so happy.

00:48:21.980 A Democrat one.

00:48:23.420 Uh, yeah, I know they are.

00:48:25.340 I know they are.

00:48:27.340 Yeah.

00:48:27.800 It is quite a bit of a disaster to see what has happened to what was once a, uh, a key

00:48:33.120 Southern state.

00:48:33.820 Yes, sir.

00:48:35.020 Charlottesville is particularly poignant because it is, it is lib central within that kind of

00:48:40.160 area of central Virginia.

00:48:41.180 And they hate the fact, like genuinely hate the fact that everything cool about that town

00:48:47.260 was built by a guy who owned people.

00:48:50.780 And it's true. 0.56

00:48:51.660 They can't get around that fact that everything cool about Charlottesville was, was put up

00:48:56.920 by a guy who owned slaves.

00:48:58.480 And so they have this incredibly schizophrenic relationship where everything is, or was at

00:49:03.720 one point named after Lee Jackson, Jefferson, the whole lot.

00:49:07.740 And they have a bunch of cool stuff that they want to keep because it's nice, but they're

00:49:11.340 constantly in this sort of schizophrenia where they feel like they need to just ironically

00:49:15.940 enough, you know, whip themselves, uh, for the fact that they live in a cool place built

00:49:20.680 by a guy with values from a different time.

00:49:22.960 I need to go there before they, they turn it into a, uh, uh, well, I don't, I don't really

00:49:28.140 want to speculate there.

00:49:29.360 Um, uh, is, is that where, uh, UVA is and Thomas Jefferson design all this stuff?

00:49:35.200 Yeah.

00:49:36.160 If you ever, I, you know, you hear that Thomas Jefferson was a genius, but you look at like,

00:49:42.940 I mean, he was like, in terms of a, uh, you know, a polymath, he was like a, he, uh, his

00:49:51.940 archeology, he was giving lectures on archeology into it and developing techniques that are still

00:49:57.380 used today.

00:49:58.460 And just like unbelievably, like we, we had it all, man.

00:50:03.260 We had it all.

00:50:06.840 Uh, Randall Scherker says at this point, any Republican not gunning for power is a fundamentally

00:50:12.680 unserious person at best and a closet Democrat at worst. 0.58

00:50:15.880 Yeah.

00:50:16.060 And this is why I harp on this constantly.

00:50:18.760 Uh, the, the vast majority of the Republican establishment is still completely out to lunch

00:50:22.700 on this.

00:50:23.100 I don't know that, I don't know what the conversion rate is.

00:50:25.960 I don't know how many people we can reach.

00:50:27.280 We've gotten to a few of them.

00:50:28.740 There's a few good, uh, you know, uh, guys, uh, in, in the legislature at this point.

00:50:33.260 Uh, but in general, this is still a message that has to be pounded, uh, mercilessly into

00:50:37.700 the skull of every Republican.

00:50:39.160 And, uh, I really see that as my job.

00:50:41.100 Uh, so that's, that's what I do.

00:50:43.480 Uh, Mr.

00:50:44.560 Nike says, I appreciate you calling me Mr.

00:50:46.420 Nike's, but without fed posting, some of us are way past the point of caring about elections.

00:50:50.820 We're beyond that.

00:50:51.800 I hear you, man.

00:50:52.460 But as, uh, as Bob pointed out, this is the game that we have right now, whether you like

00:50:56.620 it or not, elections are what convey legitimacy in the minds of Americans.

00:51:00.880 They might not be fair.

00:51:02.560 The idea that they work as some kind of marketplace of ideas might be a joke.

00:51:05.700 Uh, we might be aware of all of those realities, uh, but we still have to go through the motions

00:51:12.920 at this point, maybe at some point that will change.

00:51:16.320 But at the moment, uh, you know, Trump can only secure power through elections.

00:51:20.320 Uh, legitimacy is considered can conveyed by elections.

00:51:23.740 And so, uh, we need, we need to, uh, you know, have backup plans, I guess, but ultimately

00:51:28.860 you still need to, uh, understand that, uh, you know, doing things like cleaning voter

00:51:33.480 rolls and, uh, making sure the electoral process works properly is actually still the closest

00:51:39.420 route to power in the United States.

00:51:40.940 It would be foolish to completely discard that, even if we understand that ultimately

00:51:45.040 that might not be a final path towards, uh, saving the country.

00:51:48.900 I had a, I had this, this thought resonates with me because, you know, I had this thought

00:51:52.820 I was like, it's so like, why are things have gotten so bad and people are still more afraid

00:51:59.040 of lawyers than they are of, of violence and et cetera.

00:52:03.200 And I was like, this is, this is wrong.

00:52:04.820 This is against the moral order and stuff.

00:52:06.560 And, you know, I, I, I really, I, I'm really into, uh, Julius Caesar and, uh, the fall of

00:52:14.140 the Republican stuff.

00:52:15.120 And it was the same way there.

00:52:17.100 I mean, it was the same way there that, like, even at the end, I mean, even when people are

00:52:22.980 dying, there's still, Hey, it, let it be, let check the record.

00:52:27.480 I did ask for X or Y, like, it's still, it's still, it, I don't think that, you know, it,

00:52:33.860 it, it, I think it's, it, it, it, it does, it does, it doesn't make me angry at my core.

00:52:40.720 It shouldn't be like that.

00:52:41.800 It should be, we should be the real deal.

00:52:43.800 We stop, stop talking about, about all this, that, that, this nonsense and these laws and

00:52:48.720 stuff like that.

00:52:49.380 No, I don't think it changes.

00:52:51.520 I don't think it changes.

00:52:52.760 Yeah.

00:52:53.300 People were still quoting, uh, laws to men with swords, even after Marius and Sela, right?

00:52:58.940 Like if that doesn't tell you, uh, kind of, uh, how, how, uh, deeply ingrained, uh, that

00:53:05.060 mentality becomes, then nothing will, uh, author in California says waiting for the inevitable

00:53:12.040 con Inc essay, the conservative case for protesting in houses of worship with references to vague

00:53:17.600 incidents in the 1791 Connecticut, uh, uh, Connecticut to back up the claim.

00:53:22.800 Uh, this is the blessings of American Liberty.

00:53:26.020 Uh, yeah, I mean, the good news is I don't think I've heard a lot of conservatives backing

00:53:30.140 away from the Don Lemon stuff, but it looks like you might have a, a different, uh, thought

00:53:34.860 there.

00:53:37.080 I think you're still muted there, Jay.

00:53:40.580 Professional podcaster, ladies and gentlemen, you're partially correct.

00:53:44.520 Aren't right.

00:53:45.340 That self-described conservatives have been pushing back on this, but I, I believe Arthur

00:53:51.220 is, uh, you know, making kind of a shot across the bow to, uh, to, uh, David.

00:53:55.820 French, one of my, Oh, of course I, I have David French blocked on Twitter.

00:53:59.540 So I don't know what he says, but I can assume.

00:54:01.680 Yeah.

00:54:02.720 Well, I don't, I'm a, a great collector of his work.

00:54:06.280 Uh, if you need to write a sub stack article, just look at what David French is talking about.

00:54:10.040 It's a free one.

00:54:11.000 Uh, but in all seriousness, right.

00:54:12.340 You're seeing the kind of left edge of the evangelical world, very much pushing towards

00:54:18.480 that, right.

00:54:19.120 Very much saying, you know, really we're at fault because we allowed this gross evil,

00:54:24.660 maybe aligned with ice pastor to have a church.

00:54:28.280 That's the real problem.

00:54:29.520 And look, those aren't conservatives.

00:54:31.120 Those aren't normal people, right?

00:54:33.280 But they exist, right?

00:54:34.880 You can check the Holy post.

00:54:36.120 You can check a few other of these kind of just amazing journalistic outlets for exactly

00:54:40.640 that take.

00:54:41.220 Arthur.

00:54:41.540 Matt Gaetz says, uh, uh, the only way to get Republicans to do what the base wants is

00:54:49.100 if the base threatens to withhold their votes this year.

00:54:51.160 And in 2028, that's the only leverage the base has.

00:54:54.840 Yes.

00:54:55.400 And no.

00:54:56.180 So we've seen the zero seats thing, right?

00:54:58.640 We saw this in the UK and in one way, I guess it worked.

00:55:04.680 The conservative party is pretty much done for, uh, the, even the, uh, labor party has

00:55:11.480 seriously wounded itself with the quality of its governance.

00:55:14.780 Simultaneously, uh, look at the UK right now.

00:55:16.940 Like people are getting arrested for posting on Facebook and, you know, the, the, uh, you

00:55:22.480 know, Starmer government has been absolutely totalitarian.

00:55:25.500 So, you know, is the accelerationist option, the one that works there?

00:55:30.960 I don't know.

00:55:31.480 I mean, the good thing is the UK is a few years ahead of us on that timeline.

00:55:34.900 So I guess we can kind of watch them and see if it's worth investing in.

00:55:38.260 But I am somewhat skeptical that like ensuring Democrat victory is ultimately, uh, the way

00:55:44.520 forward. 0.98

00:55:44.940 I hear you that the Republicans are completely useless and don't deserve our vote. 0.98

00:55:48.640 But honestly, at that point, prepare for the revolution, man. 0.96

00:55:51.960 Like I don't, I don't, I don't see like sitting out a few elections on the Republicans and putting

00:55:56.320 the Democrats in power.

00:55:57.320 Democrats are in power for eight years.

00:55:58.720 The country's done.

00:55:59.420 Like you're never going to win another election.

00:56:01.160 Oh, I finally got the Republicans to take me seriously.

00:56:03.100 Yeah.

00:56:03.520 Just in time to make sure that you can't vote and every illegal in, you know, vent, you

00:56:07.360 know, I don't know, Venezuela or Caracas or whatever that they're the ones who are going

00:56:10.760 to be able to vote.

00:56:11.380 Like, come on.

00:56:11.840 I mean, I don't know.

00:56:13.020 It, it, I could be wrong on this, but I, I don't see how that's an advantage for anyone

00:56:16.840 at the end of the day.

00:56:18.200 Uh, I get the idea, you know, it comes from like a basic power dynamics and stuff.

00:56:22.480 There's nothing like, um, if you force anything to be a hundred percent Victor, then like it,

00:56:28.420 it basically must split.

00:56:29.940 And it just kind of has to, however, I mean, if you look at history and stuff, um, I mean,

00:56:37.000 you know, the communist party in Russia became defined by, there was no longer any, uh, uh,

00:56:44.560 it was, it was the internal conflicts of those guys.

00:56:48.180 So it, what, what, you know, you could much, I don't see any, I don't see any re basic reason

00:56:54.600 why this would repro, this would reproduce, you know, some kind of, uh, uh, fantastic

00:56:59.380 conservative, uh, revolution.

00:57:00.760 You, you would probably get, uh, you know, the NIMBYs versus the, uh, the YIMBYs is, is

00:57:06.040 the future, uh, uh, right and left of American politics, et cetera.

00:57:11.040 Elijah Tymon says Trump is stacking wins to secure the American empire for the next hundred

00:57:16.140 years of dominance just to deliver it into the woke hands in three years.

00:57:21.040 Yeah.

00:57:21.460 I mean, there is unfortunately some truth to that.

00:57:24.140 I, I understand what Trump's trying to do.

00:57:26.500 If Trump had, you know, a lifetime appointment, then maybe, you know, strengthening the American

00:57:33.000 empire would be an advantage.

00:57:35.020 Uh, but if you don't fix the electoral issue, uh, then everything you do, as, uh, Elijah's

00:57:40.860 pointing out here is simply strengthening the Democrats as you're just handing them that

00:57:45.060 strengthened, uh, power at the end of the day.

00:57:47.520 So you have to fix the voting issue.

00:57:49.600 You have to fix the domestic issues.

00:57:51.500 You have to fix these things before you go out and secure American power abroad.

00:57:56.280 Don't get me wrong.

00:57:57.160 I know we need access to money, to oil and rare earth minerals and all that stuff, but

00:58:01.320 it doesn't matter if the Democrats are in charge.

00:58:03.440 That's really the only thing that should matter at this point.

00:58:06.260 And then those are the only things he can do without a, a judge, uh, telling him he can't.

00:58:10.780 Yeah.

00:58:11.200 We we've had that discussion as well.

00:58:12.780 And I think that that's true is unfortunately he is, he is more sovereign in South America

00:58:16.740 than he is in Chicago.

00:58:19.360 Uh, no, I'm not from red writing.

00:58:21.220 It says, uh, three of my goats at the round table.

00:58:24.120 Absolute peak.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 22, 2026

Dems Use Power to Conquer Virginia, Conservatives Cry ｜ Guests： J. Burden and Bogbeef ｜ 1⧸21⧸26

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