The Auron MacIntyre Show - October 16, 2026


Deporting Ilhan Omar Is Critical for the Survival of the US | Jack Posobiec | 10⧸16⧸26

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00:01:30.320 all, you know that Ilhan Omar is in a lot of hot water. There's been a number of different
00:01:34.920 investigations into her financial situation, into her immigration situation. The left is crying foul
00:01:41.480 all over the place. Oh, this is unprecedented. This is the weaponization of the DOJ. But of
00:01:47.360 course, this is exactly the kind of thing that happened under Trump, except after they were
00:01:51.780 or what happened when they were going after trump but obviously many of those charges were entirely
00:01:56.840 baseless in this case it looks like we really do have some smoke to this fire joining me today to
00:02:02.920 talk about this is jack sobiak thank you so much for coming on jack what's going on man uh you know
00:02:08.360 i have to i have to say i'm a little bit bummed about coming on the show today because this means
00:02:13.460 that it won't be another episode of the r mcintyre show i get to look forward to because usually i
00:02:17.960 listen to every single one. Well, I appreciate it, man, but it's fantastic having you on. So
00:02:22.980 I want to talk a little bit first about what is being leveled at Ilhan Omar, because it looks
00:02:29.320 like we have possibly two separate investigations. First, we have her financial situation. Looks like
00:02:36.920 there might be some money involved with what's going on with her office campaign. But the one
00:02:41.800 that most people are focusing on right now is her immigration status it appears that uh well i
00:02:48.600 didn't even know this until people really started digging into this but ilhan omar's father was
00:02:54.100 apparently a colonel in the somali military oh yeah and and and served uh some guy who was like
00:03:00.720 this genocidal dictator and so once uh the regime collapsed as is often the case in these third world 0.85
00:03:07.560 hell holes. The people involved with this brutal dictatorship had to flee because they were worried 0.99
00:03:13.360 about the consequences and Ilhan Omar's father would be one of these people. Apparently her last
00:03:18.880 name is not even Omar. It was changed in order so that they could get out of the country. They 0.97
00:03:23.940 changed it to the last name of someone who's trying to help them, you know, get into the
00:03:27.840 United States. And when her father was applying for asylum from, well, apparently the crimes he
00:03:33.920 may or may not have committed in service of this dictator i don't know why we're granting asylum to
00:03:38.980 the assistant of a brutal dictator in a foreign country in the first place but apparently they
00:03:44.440 may have fudged the paperwork so that she looked younger than she was and would receive her father's
00:03:50.620 naturalization that she wouldn't have to apply for herself so it looks like there may have been 0.99
00:03:55.240 some immigration fraud there and then in addition of course there's the allegations that she
00:04:00.680 ultimately married her brother so that he could get the naturalization as well so i guess you it
00:04:08.100 sounds like you were more familiar with the backstory what do you make of all of it yeah so
00:04:12.480 there's a lot here and actually uh steve sailor of all people of course the great steve sailor
00:04:17.980 had a really good thread on this yesterday that i would refer back to where he was talking about how
00:04:22.600 this was kind of commonplace for a lot of the cold war policies that took place in the decolonial
00:04:29.640 era, decolonization era, post-World War II, and sort of this power vacuum of shifting alliances
00:04:35.980 and shifting U.S. partnerships with various groups in Africa and other places around that world
00:04:42.760 in terms of a sort of, you know, which group is the U.S. behind, which group are the Soviets
00:04:49.580 behind. And he had a tweet saying that they were originally high-ranking supporters of the Somali
00:04:55.320 dictator um uh sayed bare who had been a soviet ally but after the invasion of ethiopia uh moscow
00:05:02.440 switched to backing ethiopia and then so the us switched to the somali side of course the somali
00:05:07.960 side lost the dictators overthrown the somalis were trying to kill uh you know omar's uh father
00:05:13.560 and then that's when the us you have to look at which specific administration it was but they
00:05:18.360 said okay okay well we'll we'll bring you in here so you don't all get it wiped out and so it was
00:05:22.760 all this all this bloody cold war you know post-colonial africa situation many of which by
00:05:28.920 the way also relates to uh barack obama senior in kenya where he was uh which sailor mentioned was
00:05:35.480 the anchor witness um again in the trial of a hitman who assassinated uh one of america's
00:05:41.160 allies in kenya back in in the 1960s and um and and in fact by the way the funny enough the great
00:05:48.840 uncle of tom morello which uh of course keen-eyed observers will know from rage against the machine
00:05:54.440 his jomo kenyatta was supposedly hired the hitman so even tom morello has like a connection to all
00:06:02.000 this it's sort of this really weird like post-colonial third world groups of people that
00:06:09.160 we've brought in that have led to some pretty high name figures in the united states and yet
00:06:14.440 as just a typical example of us not knowing our own recent history that we don't even have basic
00:06:20.900 understandings of why the u.s was doing the type of things that it was doing during the cold war
00:06:25.760 and why these people were brought into our country in the first place yeah a lot of um cia connected 0.97
00:06:32.580 communists yeah yeah seriously right it's what the cia being connected in the third world during
00:06:37.900 the cold war that's crazy talk conspiracy theorist it is wild to watch all of this unfold now of
00:06:45.580 course the complaint that we're hearing from the left which is rather precious is oh well this is
00:06:51.000 the weaponization of the doj this is heading into an election season this is obviously done to
00:06:57.300 impact the election now they're running around pretending that this is somehow unprecedented
00:07:01.760 that took apparently they all just took you know those amnesia pills and nobody can remember the
00:07:06.380 last four years of American history. So, you know, we've just never seen anything like this
00:07:10.860 before. It's hilarious because, of course, we had Democrats and prosecutors say explicitly
00:07:16.920 that they were going after Donald Trump to impact the election. That was the purpose of what they
00:07:22.620 were doing. Now, you can speculate on whether or not the ramping up of this investigation at this
00:07:27.320 specific time is meant directly to impact the election. But either way, this is exactly what
00:07:32.420 you and me have been begging for. Many Trump supporters have been begging for from the
00:07:37.020 administration. We were promised that we were going to go after these enemies, that they were
00:07:41.140 going to pay for what they had done to Trump, what they had done to other Republicans, conservative
00:07:45.440 voters. And we have seen, sadly, very little in this area. So I don't know. I'm putting this one
00:07:52.480 under promises made, promises kept. But what do you think that this ultimately does to the tension
00:07:58.240 of kind of legalizing the DOJ and the law system, because obviously you have to tit for tat. You
00:08:05.720 have to have some kind of payback ultimately for what they did to stop what they're doing,
00:08:09.740 but it is going to possibly create an escalation from the left if they're ever back in power.
00:08:15.000 Right. And so there's a whole bunch of different ways to take this. Number one,
00:08:18.540 I do want to say that this was something that I caught wind of. I don't remember exactly what it
00:08:24.060 was, but I know it was before the State of the Union address. So it was pretty early in 2026
00:08:28.400 that this investigation on the immigration side had been open. And it's specifically related to
00:08:34.280 these changing of the dates of her birth, because of course, the way the asylum process works,
00:08:40.260 that if she would have been granted through her father, if she was a minor when the at the time,
00:08:45.840 but if she was not a minor at the time, then the asylum of course would not apply to her. And there
00:08:52.260 There is now reporting coming out saying that they are looking at her passport, they're
00:08:57.680 looking at dates that may have been changed, you know, was it 81, was it 82, on these various
00:09:02.700 pieces of paperwork that came in through the U.S. Congress, et cetera.
00:09:06.620 And that's serious.
00:09:07.560 Like, that's just a clear-cut case of immigration fraud.
00:09:11.960 There's really no way around that.
00:09:13.780 And that's something where you put that in front of a judge, a judge has to rule that
00:09:17.660 it's just obviously fraud.
00:09:18.940 the other one that's interesting you mentioned the the winery thing which is it is a bit more
00:09:23.400 nebulous and it it gets to campaign funds and you know was she was she dipping campaign funds and
00:09:28.300 valuations of the the winery but what's interesting about that one is that that actually had to do
00:09:35.180 with the biden doj that was actually opened in 2024 so you know the the alligator if you know
00:09:42.060 you want to play the you know the uh who started it game you can actually point out that that one
00:09:46.280 did start under the Biden administration. So this was something where, and then by the way,
00:09:50.640 she was pretty critical of Biden a number of times as well, as well as other members of the squad
00:09:54.240 were. Um, but, but here's, here's the real thing that it comes down to. And we write about this
00:09:59.300 in unhuman socialist revolution, which comes out on Tuesday. It's the update to the original
00:10:04.640 unhumans. It's 14 new chapters to describe where we're at. And we talk about something in the book,
00:10:10.220 this concept we call the iron law of exact reciprocity. And it basically works this way.
00:10:15.780 that for those people specifically that are engaged in either lawfare or these hard power
00:10:24.120 plays against Donald Trump, against Trump supporters, like we saw in the wake of January
00:10:28.620 6th, the censorship that we saw from the disinformation governance board, which is almost
00:10:33.060 led by Nina Jankowicz until I blew up the entire thing. And that was going to be under the DHS.
00:10:40.180 And until we exposed it, we were able to work with Jim Jordan's office on that. He did a great job
00:10:45.780 getting it out there. And even the Biden admin said, okay, we have to back away from this. This
00:10:49.900 is too crazy. And we have to remember though, that if, if power is not extended and expended
00:10:58.540 in the direction of the exact people and on the exact people that were doing these things to the
00:11:05.540 right, to Trump, to Trump supporters, then they're just going to do it again. There isn't going to
00:11:10.500 be any incentive for them not to. And by the way, I'm not talking about making up new laws like they
00:11:18.060 did in Manhattan when they indicted President Trump. I don't even know how many times. I think
00:11:21.520 it was twice in Manhattan and then another two times federally. I'm not talking about making up
00:11:25.460 new laws or new readings of the laws. I'm talking about aggressively enforcing the law on anything
00:11:31.040 that these people have done. With Ilhan Omar, if she did commit fraud, then absolutely. That's
00:11:37.940 denaturalization. And that means you're going to have to deport her back to Somalia and of course, 0.93
00:11:43.480 dripper of her seat in Congress. And what this what this comes down to is that there are so many 0.99
00:11:49.160 people on the right now that are terrified, terrified, or at least nominally on the right,
00:11:55.220 they call themselves right, they're terrified of the right actually wielding power and doing
00:12:00.580 something to directly affect the enemies of civilization, the people who have openly stated
00:12:07.520 that if they get back into power, that they are going to come for all of us, that they are going
00:12:13.520 to open investigations. They are going to be holding subpoenas. They are going to look what
00:12:17.600 they did with the Jan six committee for the people that were just, you know, regular Trump supporters
00:12:22.260 or members of the administration. Uh, they threw Steve Bannon in jail, they threw Peter Navarro in
00:12:26.380 jail. Um, I was actually, uh, I, I joked, I had Navarro on the show. He's back in the white house.
00:12:31.860 So if you look at his resume, it goes, this, this just goes to show you how, how much of a, uh, you
00:12:36.040 know, the third worldization of American politics, because we've now gone, his resume goes economic
00:12:42.380 advisor to the president, federal inmate, and now he's counselor to the president on economics yet
00:12:48.120 again. I said, this is great. In a post-Soviet republic, he'd now be well on his way to deputy
00:12:52.840 prime minister. There are parts of the world that operate like this. We're just not used to seeing
00:12:58.800 it here in our country because we've never had this kind of politics before. But of course,
00:13:05.240 because we brought in so many people from these areas that don't have those sort of norms and
00:13:11.300 backgrounds like we used to, that they are bringing that style of politics along with them.
00:13:17.460 So they don't have these, you know, Marquis de Sade, these Queensberry rules of order that we
00:13:24.180 have to follow. They're just going to play smash mouth. So unless you play smash mouth back legally,
00:13:29.980 following the constitution, et cetera, et cetera, you are going to lose every single time because
00:13:36.440 there is no limiting principle on the other side. And I'm trying so hard with this book
00:13:41.260 to just push that out, like, like an operating system update. Like when you wake up and your
00:13:45.860 phone has a new update, just push that out to conservatives to say, Hey, understand we have
00:13:51.160 all our disagreements and those are fine. Those are great. I love the debate. I love having those,
00:13:54.880 but this this group of people is going to come to crush us and wipe us all out uh like a like a
00:14:01.680 they look at us like a plague they look at us like an invasive species and they're not going
00:14:05.160 to stop unless we actually fight back it's so incredibly important and it should be so
00:14:10.640 glaringly obvious and i think it is to the average person that's the hilarious thing like the average
00:14:16.280 person i talk to says obviously the left has gone insane obviously they want us dead obviously they
00:14:22.680 would have put everybody in jail and why why aren't we going harder against these people
00:14:27.200 it's the it's you know the what you often call the the woke light or i've called the containment
00:14:32.320 right uh that is running around and trying to contain it's pretty good actually well thank you
00:14:37.820 uh i saw the george uh the george cannon reference yeah that got even better after yeah yeah that
00:14:45.120 crash out but yeah no i mean i saw jesse collie kelly called him the nag squad which i think is
00:14:50.300 also a pretty good one good but yeah we have the scenario where obviously this is the situation 0.53
00:14:56.780 you know you the what these people don't understand is that because conservatives
00:15:03.240 had this idea that you never use power government power is always evil its use is always evil we're
00:15:09.060 the guys that don't use power so the left comes into power they do whatever they want the right
00:15:13.300 comes into power and we basically just hit the stop sign we just hit the brakes for four years
00:15:18.120 so that then the left can go back to using power
00:15:20.260 as soon as it comes back into
00:15:22.000 office. And that leniency,
00:15:24.720 that thing of saying, well, we're
00:15:26.160 better than these people. We don't
00:15:28.200 use the power. That has created the
00:15:30.220 space. It's enabled them. It's like a child you don't
00:15:32.260 discipline, right? Every time they
00:15:34.160 cross the line, it gets a little worse, a little
00:15:36.340 worse until finally it's out of
00:15:38.180 control. If the right had simply smacked
00:15:40.280 the left around, had actually
00:15:42.200 enforced the law when the left
00:15:44.200 was breaking the law, as you said, we don't need to make up
00:15:46.200 anything. We don't have to create some kind of
00:15:48.120 kangaroo court or some kind of crazy tribunal all you have to do is actually enforce the law
00:15:54.040 which you're supposed to do you're supposed to be for law and order and because we refuse to do that
00:15:57.800 because it would look bad because it would be using power because it would make us feel icky
00:16:02.620 because we've done that we didn't do that we enabled these people to get worse and worse
00:16:06.700 more and more violent more and more unhinged willing to do anything and everything including
00:16:11.340 shooting the president trying to throw him in him in jail imprisoning you know people from his
00:16:15.880 administration, because we allowed all of that without any kind of recourse, you've now gotten
00:16:20.180 to the point where your politics is existential. And so a lot of people get angry when I talk about
00:16:24.880 Machiavelli or Carl Schmitt. And the reason why I talk about those thinkers is I saw that this is
00:16:31.040 where politics was going. I saw that this was where we would end up, that politics would end
00:16:35.880 up in this existential moment. And when you end up in that moment, you need a different understanding
00:16:40.260 of where you are politically that the the difference between you know when you're leading up
00:16:45.640 to a moment of existential politics and mr smith goes to washington is just radically different 0.97
00:16:50.900 and we have to break these people of this mindset we have to break away from this beautiful loser
00:16:56.200 theology of politics and we have to understand that if you do not fight back now you will need
00:17:01.600 even more radical measures to put down what's coming that's exactly right you know i was talking
00:17:07.000 to uh my good buddy still boneless this morning about it and so a full credit to him for the line
00:17:11.960 but it's like it's like if you're you know take to put it in sports terms right it's like you're
00:17:15.940 playing uh one team goes up and says hey we're gonna we're gonna start the regular season and
00:17:21.740 oh by the way um you know this is we're gonna play in the nfl but we're not allowed to wear
00:17:26.520 helmets everyone else is allowed to have helmets but we're gonna go out there with with no helmets
00:17:31.200 on and yeah we might take the hits but you know it's just this is this is the way that our
00:17:36.600 forefathers played and that's the way we're going to do it it's like it's it's ridiculous or like
00:17:41.580 you're you know you're not going to use certain plays because they're too effective or something 0.96
00:17:45.020 like that and when you put it in those terms it's it seems ridiculous and it sounds ridiculous
00:17:50.480 why wouldn't you do that you're going to lose right exactly that's the whole point is we've
00:17:54.980 we've been taught through a lot of really bad um you know ideologues i think and a lot of really
00:18:02.160 bad philosophy and a lot of really bad political thinking over the last really 30, 40 years, I
00:18:08.060 think, on the right to say that it's better if we lose, but keep our, you know, keep our, you know,
00:18:15.520 our self-respect held up for ourselves. Well, guess what, boys and girls, that if the country
00:18:20.660 is destroyed, if they're transing the kids, if churches are being investigated, if people are
00:18:25.920 being arrested for praying outside of a Planned Parenthood clinic, if they're rounding up
00:18:29.780 conservatives and if they're shooting ceos on you know on fifth avenue and by the way if they're
00:18:35.780 murdering future presidents on campus at what point are you going to step up and say you know
00:18:41.800 something we need to fight back before it's too late because too late has already begun
00:18:46.340 you know a lot of people will talk about the violation of principles you know this and that
00:18:51.980 I think that principles exist because they point you towards the good, because they dictate your behavior in a way that brings about the best possible outcome, the morally correct stance.
00:19:07.040 And there is no more morally correct stance than the preservation of your children, your tradition, and your way of life.
00:19:15.060 And if your principle leads you to destroy your children, your tradition, and your way of life, then your principle is bad. What was the use of that principle? It was a disaster. And so if you have principles that orient you to lose and to sacrifice everything that you hold dear and everything that is good, then the question is, where did that come from? Who gave you that principle?
00:19:39.060 I think the issue is that conservatives have been following their enemy's principles for a long time. They've been following the principles that their enemy projected onto them that was meant to contain and control what they were doing instead of actually having a principle of truly conserving something, truly preserving that which matters.
00:19:56.820 And I think this gets really important. And this is why I wanted to have this conversation with you, because ultimately, I think this is about a people's will to survive.
00:20:07.420 If you are the kind of country that allows an Ilhan Omar into your borders, then you're already weak. 0.84
00:20:15.740 You're already showing that there is some deep flaw in you that will cause you to commit a form of civilizational suicide. 0.96
00:20:23.200 But on top of that, if you're allowed allowing a person like that to rule you to literally be in your nation's highest elected body and passing laws that govern and dictate what you do, if you let someone who you know from a foreign country actively hates your country and its principles to be in charge, well, then that really shows that you just do not have the will to exist as a country.
00:20:48.700 I think that deporting Ilhan Omar is not just a matter of law. It's not just a matter of right, though those are both important. It's literally a matter of survival. If you can't deport someone like Ilhan Omar, you're showing that you simply cannot survive as a nation.
00:21:01.680 No, that's exactly right. And that's why you need to show these signs of life. You need to show
00:21:06.100 these signs of reaction, these signs of response. I think there was the Deputy Secretary of State,
00:21:12.560 Chris Landau, said recently, and he was actually kind of weighed in on this argument that's been
00:21:17.200 raging on X and on the online spaces, where he said, look, Nixon went to China and sat down with
00:21:24.500 Chairman Mao. And sure, that was a quote unquote violation of political principle,
00:21:30.020 but it was done in the national interest because it separated the it was the sino-soviet split
00:21:36.280 and it effectuated the sino-soviet split and brought china on our side talking about the
00:21:40.880 cold war again against the soviets and by the way he did so without firing a shot just pointing that
00:21:46.140 out and this was a huge win for the united states in that greater geopolitical struggle and yes you 0.96
00:21:54.280 know obviously chairman mao was a disgusting individual and one of the most uh heinous people 0.94
00:21:59.560 who ever lived. But at the same time, it was still in the interest of the United States. And at no
00:22:04.000 point did Nixon ever, you know, go in and endorse communism or something like that or Maoism. But he
00:22:11.260 understood that it was in the best interest and long term interest of the United States at the
00:22:17.080 time. I would also point out, by the way, because people always get this wrong, that Nixon did not
00:22:21.220 recognize China at the time. That was something later that Jimmy Carter did. But that's a much,
00:22:26.000 much longer discussion. And in fact, Kissinger even pointed out that Carter never should have
00:22:31.280 given recognition to China. And that was never the point. It was always supposed to be just
00:22:35.440 sort of following that George Cannon article that we just kind of referenced along Telegram
00:22:39.420 and that strategy of, hey, we're just messing with the communists. We weren't trying to be
00:22:43.600 friends with the communists. But to go back to your earlier thing, there was a speech I delivered
00:22:49.540 at uh oh yes at natcon a couple of years ago not this most most uh most recent one but i believe
00:22:56.480 it was in washington dc and i think it was i think it was 24 where i said this and i had this line
00:23:02.040 that really really drove a lot of this same group of people we're discussing um crazy where i said
00:23:07.440 and i want to quote myself power without principles is tyranny principles without power is delusion
00:23:15.800 and of course they all missed the first part of what i said and only focused on the second
00:23:20.640 and they said he said we should have we should have total power and we shouldn't have any
00:23:24.960 principles didn't say that i didn't say that what i'm saying is is that if all you have are
00:23:29.620 principles and you have no power whatsoever and if you don't exercise and and of course there's
00:23:34.080 that question if you don't exercise power do you really have it right so this question of if you
00:23:39.040 don't have any power but all you have are your principles then what is the point it's delusional 0.89
00:23:43.680 You're running around thinking that you have some kind of, oh, I'm, you know, my farts don't stink and your head is like completely into your navel. But while the world just runs past you, just completely runs past you. And meanwhile, of course, you should never exercise power without principles. And of course, that's what we're discussing.
00:24:03.860 yeah there's this misordering the misunderstanding of the nature of politics and power so if you know
00:24:12.800 real beliefs real principles are lived out right if you say i have a principle of uh being a
00:24:19.100 christian but you never go to church you never give money you never you know help anyone you
00:24:25.360 don't take good care of your family then okay that's nice that in theory you have those principles
00:24:30.220 but in practice, you don't leave anybody out. We call that hypocrisy, right? We don't call that
00:24:34.600 being principled. But for some reason, for conservatives, we believe that if we have
00:24:38.420 this principle, we don't defend it. We never do anything about it. We never use power or take
00:24:44.320 any action to let me stand up. Well, then that is what our principle is. And so we're somehow holier
00:24:50.140 by being hypocrites, by not actually fighting for anything. Politics is not some side thing you do. 0.93
00:24:58.480 It's not some hobby. I mean, Aristotle said that man is a political animal, that at the core, everything we do is political in some sense. The political is what we can't leave behind. It's the things we actually believe in that we're willing to fight for. That's what animates us in this arena.
00:25:16.460 And so this idea that the principle in politics is to not do any politics, is to never exercise power, to never stand for anything, that's delusional. That's exactly the opposite. The only way you can have any principle, the only way that you ever actually show, demonstrate what you really believe in, what you'll really fight for, is the things that you'll use power for, is the things that you will sacrifice on behalf of. And so I just think this is a delusional understanding of the connection between power and principle, as you said.
00:25:45.120 it's actually funny there's um so in in china there's a total aside and i don't want to like 0.54
00:25:50.500 go all the way down the rabbit hole but in in uh taoism there was this concept called wu wei
00:25:56.100 and if you even if you go to um the the forbidden city in beijing you'll see that over the emperor's
00:26:03.700 throne it would even say those characters wu wei and it was this this huge idea of which means
00:26:09.420 non-action. So no action, non-function, non-force, or what they call this idea of effortless action
00:26:16.100 that the emperor should just, and the empire should just act in accordance with nature and
00:26:21.460 allow nature to take its course. Well, you know, this, this got a little bit out of hand if you,
00:26:27.080 if you understand Chinese history, because there was a point where China was, was getting fairly
00:26:31.000 advanced and, you know, they have gunpowder, they, you know, are able to affect this massive empire
00:26:35.860 across their great swath of Asia. But then around the 1400s, 1500s, they just kind of stop.
00:26:44.760 They just sort of stop advancing. They've taken over most of China. The rest of the Asian nations
00:26:50.840 become vassals. Even China in Chinese, Zhongguo means central kingdom. And if you look at Asian 1.00
00:26:56.480 history, of course, they were the central kingdom of Asia. But then they just sort of stopped
00:27:00.140 developing because this idea of no action takes over. And then when, of course, the British show
00:27:05.840 up in the 1800s, they just just blow their doors in with technology. And they've taken that gunpowder 0.99
00:27:11.800 that the Chinese used for like, you know, fireworks and fun little, fun little inventions 1.00
00:27:16.500 to create weapons of war and ships and seagoing vessels and are able to absolutely decimate the 0.95
00:27:23.300 Qing dynasty. And so this is the problem with this kind of thinking that you think, oh, you know,
00:27:30.780 we could have rested to this point where we can sit on our laurels and we don't need to worry
00:27:35.800 about it. Eventually, someone is just going to come and take your stuff. The British are just
00:27:40.840 going to show up and beat your doors in or whoever it is, right, whoever it ends up being. And at 1.00
00:27:46.320 this point in the United States, we see who that is. It is elements of the far left. It is a coalition
00:27:50.720 of of of them of of third world immigrants of uh and and and migrants and invaders at some point 1.00
00:27:57.940 it's people who want to take our stuff it's really as simple as that and unless we stand up for our
00:28:04.200 civilization we are going to get that and you know there was this thing with um uh elon musk and he
00:28:10.820 has this like uh you know i'm gonna call it a flying car people could debate whether it's flying
00:28:15.720 car or not. But, you know, the point is, is that that's actual innovation, right? That's, that's
00:28:20.780 what the far right is up to right now, you know, creating defense technologies and innovation and
00:28:28.560 actually trying to understand how to go to the next level as, as a society. And then you look
00:28:34.940 at the other side of that. And that's, that's why, you know, the name on humans and unhumaning
00:28:39.180 fits because all they want to do is tear down and destroy things like that. And so of course,
00:28:43.980 The meme that's been going around is Elon Musk is an immigrant who has given us this advanced technology, whereas Ilhan Omar, the Somalians and the Haitians have only arrived to, you know, extract capital from us. 0.99
00:28:58.400 Turns out that all immigrants are not created equal. 0.87
00:29:01.300 Some are a little more American than others. 0.99
00:29:03.280 No way. 0.90
00:29:03.960 Who could have expected?
00:29:05.440 It's not possible.
00:29:06.640 I want to talk about this real quickly.
00:29:08.260 We don't have to get stuck into it, but I think it is important to mention.
00:29:11.160 And I've largely avoided going too deep into the back and forth of these people on Twitter.
00:29:18.020 But the woke light or the containment right, as we've labeled them, has spent a lot of time and expended a lot of energy going after people like you and me because we have edgy memes and we've talked about people who have no-no reputations.
00:29:37.520 They're actually like our biggest fans.
00:29:39.260 i think they listen to our podcasts and like focus on our tweets more like like i i'll see
00:29:44.920 someone will send me something like you know some guy posted something about i don't even know the
00:29:48.400 guy is and i'll be like my own wife doesn't watch my show that much you know they're usually cutting
00:29:55.580 clips for your highlight reel it's like oh thanks i didn't have to do great though because it ends
00:30:00.020 up becoming your jonah goldberg was crashing out about me on uh on uh uh cnn last night and of
00:30:06.860 course he referenced oh yeah i haven't i haven't posted this yet today but he referenced and this
00:30:10.560 guy posobic every friday on his podcast he does franco fridays he says it on cnn i'm like thanks
00:30:17.820 joe no you're yeah a lot of people like i gotta i gotta tune into that that sounds amazing freeze
00:30:21.460 you get the promo wow friday that sounds great so uh so a lot of these guys have been running
00:30:27.460 around and recently of course i had william wolf on to discuss his appearance at natcon israel and
00:30:32.700 everything that happened there these people have been you know all the usual suspects have been
00:30:36.380 crashing out about this you know how dare you tell they're going after millius like how you
00:30:41.280 gonna go after millius i know well as she wears the star of david they're calling her a uh an
00:30:46.940 anti-semite because she made the best she made the best documentary about russiagate and the
00:30:54.420 trump years the plot against the president the best one that's ever been made it was like the
00:30:58.760 movie went number one on amazon i'm by the way and that was under the censorship uh regime of
00:31:04.800 amazon when things were really bad if i don't know how um you know if they have the ability
00:31:09.120 to re-release it these days that would go that would go number one in a second it truly is an
00:31:14.700 amazing thing to watch these people go after her and and and other friends that we have that went
00:31:19.560 you know jonathan keeperman and and uh matthew peterson and all these people but a truly
00:31:25.200 incredible escalation of this occurred and going after like like like will and and yoram and all
00:31:31.280 for you know just just having the event like hey can we discuss these issues no you cannot
00:31:35.880 no you're not allowed right it's all the woke scold stuff it's they were going after people for
00:31:42.020 quoting gk chesterton yesterday because he was an anti-semite so i mean these people are you know
00:31:48.060 they're they're trashing the founding fathers they're attacking beloved christian authors
00:31:51.600 it's only a matter of time before they call for you know statues of presidents to be torn down
00:31:56.380 You know, they're just it's it's it's it's so obvious.
00:32:00.540 And President Trump said the exact same thing.
00:32:02.860 If you go back to his Charlottesville response, which I've always found to be fascinating and of course was been, you know, was taken out of context a million ways.
00:32:10.700 But when he pointed out, he said, do you really think they're going to stop at Robert E. Lee?
00:32:14.400 He said, do you really think they're going to stop?
00:32:15.940 And of course, they didn't.
00:32:17.120 Within three years, they were tearing down statues of Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and just any other statue they could find.
00:32:24.160 so the amazing thing that happened yesterday is that uh you know the the uh great sage james
00:32:33.660 lindsey decided to run around and find every female conservative he could and called them
00:32:39.640 a b-word he went after people like molly hemingway who was like the nicest human being in the world
00:32:45.260 uh richard bovard like he yeah yeah like like he was in her you know interventions you know uh
00:32:51.720 insulting her with profanity it was truly an incredible thing to watch and of course all
00:32:56.560 these people like joel barry who've been talking about and rachel like molly's great rachel's great
00:33:02.040 i saw megan bashham they're going after like these are some of the night they truly some of
00:33:06.660 the nicest people they are truly some of the nicest people i've ever met and and so the fact
00:33:11.320 that not only were you insulting these people but then uh the guys who have been calling uh every
00:33:17.100 saying we have to go on a witch hunt because there are all these sexist
00:33:21.440 groopers everywhere, right? Like these groopers have terrible attitudes for women 0.98
00:33:25.320 and we have to go after them. They're infiltrating the Republican Party. Now they're 1.00
00:33:29.440 running around and defending this guy for calling everybody, every
00:33:33.420 woman he can find, a B-word. And it's just incredible because not a single one of
00:33:37.400 these people is going to disaffiliate with Lindsay.
00:33:41.620 They're going to continue to have him on. They're going to continue to praise him. They're going to defend him
00:33:45.280 even though they've said that sexism is the worst thing ever and that's why we have to get rid of 0.99
00:33:49.420 all of these groopers because they're so sexist they're they're not going to change anything and 0.79
00:33:53.060 i just think it's hilarious because we've heard endlessly about the dangers of the friend enemy
00:33:56.620 distinction if you talk about carl schmidt if you talk about the friend enemy distinction then you
00:34:01.080 must believe in nazism you must you can't just be reading a political theorist and understanding
00:34:05.340 the framework he put forward uh acknowledging a obvious truth inside of politics you must believe
00:34:11.540 in this you know this this national socialist regime or something and now they are literally
00:34:17.500 defending the exact behavior that they decried only because it's someone they see as a political
00:34:23.280 ally a political friend they are the most schmittian people in the world they are living out
00:34:27.780 the friend enemy extinction in the realest sense and i just thought it was incredible because you
00:34:31.900 watch all this whinging about principle for the last year uh last couple years just get burned
00:34:37.240 down in one day like these people have zero principles they when when when the push comes
00:34:41.500 to shove they will abandon those principles in a moment if they think that it hurts their
00:34:45.160 political enemies and helps their political friends all the sophistry about principle
00:34:49.340 just burn down in one minute yeah you see the same thing where they'll they'll point out like
00:34:54.380 if you make a reference to something and they'll say oh my gosh they you know this person read
00:34:58.300 such and such book like like since when are we not allowed to read books you're not allowed to
00:35:04.240 read a book you're not allowed to engage with an argument you're not allowed to say oh that's
00:35:07.320 interesting argument you know maybe there's some stuff that that i agree with maybe there's some
00:35:10.800 stuff i disagree with and and that's it it's a book it also goes kind of to show you that it is
00:35:16.260 a leftist coded thinking because it's the left that reads a book and then decides to just follow
00:35:22.620 everything that is in that book because they don't have the ability of independent thought
00:35:27.380 or critical reasoning and so they just say oh well i'm just going to go along with whatever 1.00
00:35:31.400 of this book so you see by the way you see um uh feminists do this all the time because they'll 1.00
00:35:35.300 read like uh the the handmaid's tale or that that watch that you know movie the housemate or whatever 1.00
00:35:41.120 it is and they'll they'll just say oh that's what life is like i'm just gonna go with that even
00:35:45.000 though i think handmaid's tale actually if you go back the original author admitted that she
00:35:49.040 originally uh wrote it about the taliban yes and then and then later on um it was just sort of
00:35:55.880 sort of through the tv adaptation and the trump years they said oh no no no this is about
00:35:59.800 conservatives but the original original piece was written about the taliban it's kind of reminds me
00:36:05.200 i got into uh i got into it with the sex in the city founder once um you know a couple years ago
00:36:09.820 on twitter and back when twitter was still good and we still had like liberals and celebrities
00:36:13.520 on it because what's the point if you can't harass them um and and she was relaunching her sex in the
00:36:21.220 city um you know as like a as like a one woman broadway show or something like this and i brought
00:36:27.160 up the fact that she had once told the daily mail that she regretted never getting married and having
00:36:31.520 kids i said i said oh well so now you're promoting the same lifestyle that you yourself once admitted
00:36:38.300 that you regretted and of course she was screaming i that was taken out of context etc etc and then
00:36:43.960 she blocked me it's an incredible thing to watch and uh you know obviously you know the one of the
00:36:52.260 main reasons you have become such a target of ire is that you talk about francisco franco that you
00:36:58.620 in a book like the inhumans talk about uh not just the evils of the communist revolution not
00:37:04.620 just the terrible things that have been done in the name of this ideology and in the name of these
00:37:10.940 inhuman people but what it takes to fight back against what it looks to like actually stand up
00:37:15.600 to these people in a moment of true existential dread. And so you have these people who just spend
00:37:23.000 their entire lives running around crying anytime someone brings up being effective, standing for
00:37:28.800 truth, defending what is right, and ultimately defeating those that are doing evil. It's just,
00:37:35.680 I don't know, what possesses people to react so strongly? And why do you think it's so important
00:37:41.660 to talk about someone like Franco at a time like this? Well, I mean, it's so a couple of things,
00:37:47.360 right? Why does it bother them so much? That's a deeper question. Honestly, I think of I think
00:37:53.080 I think it sparks it speaks to insecurity or because and this is just my just my personal
00:37:59.900 opinion. I don't think they actually mean they're not deliberately being the containment right. I
00:38:05.740 think to them, it's just they are so twisted up because of either trauma that they're dealing with
00:38:12.140 from their past lives with, you know, some of them obviously have made, you know, references to here
00:38:18.200 and there. And, and just this, like, really, or just really bad decisions that they've made with
00:38:23.800 their own lives. And the way that they live their lives, they think that, wait a minute, I can't
00:38:28.560 allow any other principles to get, um, to get prominence or in, in society, because if that
00:38:35.820 means that, you know, this moral system actually is better than mine, then I might be called to
00:38:40.440 account for things that I've done in my life. And they really, really, really don't want that.
00:38:45.280 And, and so, and I know I'm speaking kind of vaguely, but I don't want to make it personal,
00:38:49.440 but so I, I think that they, they're terrified of going past like the 1990s, early 2000s,
00:38:57.100 sort of like level of the rules because suddenly you know past behavior might be called into
00:39:04.140 question or past things that they've done and and that's that's what leads them to to push back
00:39:10.080 against anyone who says hey hey perhaps this idea of us pushing god out of the public square in the
00:39:15.880 1960s and getting rid of absolute morality was a bad idea and allowing the sexual revolution to
00:39:22.000 reach the zenith of now where you have women, we have a whole chapter on this, by the way, 0.54
00:39:27.500 where you have women celebrating a murderess who killed her own children and saying that it's 0.51
00:39:32.600 actually not her fault, it's society's fault, because this is what the Marxists always do,
00:39:36.340 it's they reverse victim and offender. And once you realize they reverse victim and offender,
00:39:40.720 every single time you can't stop seeing them do it, because they literally do it for whatever
00:39:45.800 the situation is. They'll take the most violent person and just the most horrific act of brutal
00:39:52.060 violence. We had this black guy in Philly a couple of days ago who swatted himself. So he called the 0.94
00:39:58.780 police on himself, say, Hey, there's a guy with the gun and he gives the address. And then when
00:40:02.440 the police showed up, he shot the cops because he wanted to shoot cops. And then he later told
00:40:08.160 these, so one dies, one lives. And he later tells officers as he's being arrested that I made sure
00:40:15.200 they were white before I shot them. That if they were black, we would have just had a conversation, 0.99
00:40:19.520 but I made sure they were white cops before I shot them. So these horrific acts of violence. 1.00
00:40:24.820 And then you see the leftist DA of Philadelphia, who's the Soros DA named Larry Krasner. What does
00:40:30.200 he do? He blames the police officers for allowing this guy to be out on the street because he had
00:40:35.660 committed, by the way, another murder a couple of years before, but then blamed police and said,
00:40:40.680 oh, you boxed the investigation. This is actually your fault. It's again, just switching victim
00:40:46.580 and offender over and over and over and over. So that's that's a little bit long winded. But
00:40:51.840 I think they have a lot of emotional insecurities, a lot of really, really deep seated emotional
00:40:57.080 insecurities. And and I'll leave it at that. As far as why do we talk about and we don't just
00:41:02.680 talk about Franco in the book, we talk about Chiang Kai-shek. We talk about Pyotr Rangel.
00:41:06.360 we talk about all sorts of people who have fought back against communism and sometimes they won
00:41:12.640 sometimes they did not we talk about all those stands that lots of people have made in fight
00:41:17.560 joseph mccarthy we talk about joseph mccarthy at great length uh we talk about george kennan by the
00:41:21.920 way which is funny to see him coming back i said hey we've got a whole whole bunch of references
00:41:26.240 to kennan in here let's let's let's go to the let's go to the book and check it out and see
00:41:30.160 what he see what he wrote about containment theory does this make sense we actually have a whole
00:41:34.040 part of the book where we talk about George Cannon's containment theory and how can we use
00:41:38.940 that against the left today? And how can we use certain things from that strategy for us today to
00:41:44.880 just sort of, again, contain them from ever receiving power, putting them in institutions,
00:41:50.860 getting them out of institutions, et cetera, et cetera. There's a lot we can actually learn
00:41:54.160 from ways that communism has been fought in the past. And again and again. So the reason
00:42:00.120 that we tell these stories, number one, the main reason is because we've been lied about
00:42:04.560 so many times about these things. There are people just, and we're telling these stories
00:42:10.800 from a historical perspective, but also we make it interesting. It's not just about dates and
00:42:14.640 locations. We actually talk about, for example, people say, oh, Franco, okay, et cetera, et cetera.
00:42:19.360 Who is he fighting? They'll never tell you that. The average person just hears, oh, Franco, he was
00:42:24.260 this uh this guy who ran spain for a long time and uh and that was it and you never actually
00:42:30.100 learned that oh franco was fighting murderous bloodthirsty communists who were backed by the
00:42:36.180 soviets in sort of a precursor to world war ii because the first thing the bolsheviks did after
00:42:41.940 they looted the uh the czar's resources in russia is that they tried to expand the revolution
00:42:48.460 to madrid because it was a criminal syndicate right this they are they're just a group of 0.96
00:42:52.960 criminals. There's not actually a political ideology. It's just a tactic. They're just
00:42:56.740 criminals. They're just thugs. And they took over Spain, by the way, in a stolen election, 1.00
00:43:01.840 this is like a really interesting part of it because the, the commies will always say that,
00:43:06.480 oh, well, there was an election and we elected the communist, but then you go back in and you
00:43:10.020 find that there were actually the equivalent of what we'd say today are Antifa and BLM groups,
00:43:15.320 like going in and like smashing uh voting centers in um conservative areas or brutalizing people who
00:43:24.120 were conservative and again they had all the soviet backing to be able to do so and after
00:43:28.760 assassinating many conservative politicians by the way right right assassinate assassinating
00:43:33.260 politicians assassinating conservative youth youth leaders too by the way and and eventually so they
00:43:39.600 they get into power and they just unleash the far left across the entirety of spain they are
00:43:47.680 killing priests of course it's very very brutal in their what they call anti-clerical violence but
00:43:53.460 it's just anti-church violence anti-christian violence priests were murdered in some of the
00:43:58.260 most brutal ways ever the same way they did in the soviet union nuns were thrown up on church altars 0.82
00:44:04.740 and raped. And in some cases, their bodies were then just left desiccated out in the middle of
00:44:10.260 town squares or even put on display to show what happens if you stand against the revolution. 0.57
00:44:15.920 And what were the Bolsheviks also doing? Oh, that's right. They were looting the gold of 0.81
00:44:20.080 Madrid, which of course, this is some of the gold that comes from Columbus and the New World and all
00:44:24.960 this. And they sent it all back to Moscow. So again, they're just a bunch of criminals. 0.93
00:44:30.520 and and then and yes then there a civil war ensued and franco won the civil war 0.93
00:44:36.080 and we don't ever say that oh that's what the united states should do and the u.s military
00:44:41.780 should kerm on earn herder we don't say that anywhere in the book we just tell the story so
00:44:47.360 that people can understand that certain things that happened in spain do actually line up with
00:44:53.560 things that we see happening here in the united states today now warfare has changed we don't
00:44:59.280 live in an era of second generation warfare or third generation warfare. That's why our communist 0.93
00:45:05.400 revolutions don't look like the ones of the past. We live in an era of fourth and fifth generation 0.78
00:45:10.800 warfare. And so because warfare has changed and the nature of warfare has changed, so too has the
00:45:16.720 nature of these revolutions. And guess what? They do still follow those same patterns, those same
00:45:23.460 beats and we've we've really broken down the playbook on how the communist revolution
00:45:28.660 subverts a civilization divides a civilization divides it up into groups infiltrates various
00:45:34.500 institutions and then and then begins and somebody asked me the other day um well what what stage are
00:45:40.340 we in right now and i and i said the stage we're in right now is called the purge and uh and and
00:45:45.940 unfortunately that um you know isn't necessarily a reference to the movie although it kind of is
00:45:51.300 that that's just what they do. It's what they always do. And there isn't any other way to
00:45:55.200 point that out. They purge anyone who they view as a political threat or an effective political
00:46:01.760 operator against them. That's why they go against the church every single time they do, because
00:46:06.100 they can't have an institution that stays against them. They've obviously worked to infiltrate
00:46:10.260 various churches as much as possible throughout the West. But anyone who truly opposes them
00:46:15.940 gets targeted and gets purged. That's exactly what happened to Charlie Kirk. There's no question
00:46:20.700 about that in my mind, even as obviously someone who knew him or worked with him, there's no
00:46:25.040 question that he was someone who faced intense scrutiny and intense targeting for years leading
00:46:30.800 up to 9-10, what happened at UVU. And again, you see the same thing with President Trump over and
00:46:38.260 over and over. You see these nascent threats to J.D. Vance. They tried to break into his house
00:46:43.860 in Ohio, which people don't seem to pay attention to very much, but they did try to do that. His
00:46:48.640 family wasn't there of course god bless at the time and they uh they're now killing you know
00:46:53.880 united healthcare ceos in the street in new york city so this violence that we always see always
00:46:58.760 takes place within the purge stage and again though it's it's not just the violence it's also
00:47:04.100 if they can lock you up they will lock you up if they can censor you they will censor you
00:47:07.800 the point is the purge the mechanism is just whatever they they'll find whatever works
00:47:12.400 yeah i think it's really important for people to understand what's what's at stake and so
00:47:17.680 So, you know, after they get done reading The Inhumans and they get the prep for that, you can, I believe there's a, it's back in print, there's a book called The Last Crusade, which is a very good.
00:47:29.740 We reference that in The Inhumans.
00:47:31.700 You do? Okay.
00:47:32.240 Yeah. 1.00
00:47:32.820 So, yeah, wet your whistle with Inhumans.
00:47:34.940 This book, it's just written as a primer.
00:47:38.420 It's like an easy endpoint for kind of anti-communist history.
00:47:42.100 um you know we're by no means saying that this is the end-all be-all of the spanish civil war
00:47:48.300 or joseph mccarthy or the chinese civil war or the chinese communist revolution or the bolshevik
00:47:53.120 revolution or any of the things that i'm referencing it's just a hey here's a way to
00:47:57.640 look at history that you probably haven't been told before and then at the end of every chapter
00:48:02.200 we say if you want more here's some books to go deep on it and yeah last crusade is absolutely
00:48:07.040 one that i read cover to cover uh going through that and i also read one it was the siege of the
00:48:12.320 alhambra and it was just this incredible account of a british officer who was involved in a siege
00:48:19.200 during the spanish civil war who took meticulous notes of every single day of the siege just
00:48:24.640 fascinating stuff well people should definitely go out and grab the book uh guys we are pre-recorded
00:48:31.120 today so i won't be able to take any of your questions sorry about that but uh jack can people
00:48:36.320 get the book now pre-order it uh how do they get a hold of it yeah yeah you can pre-order it now and
00:48:40.920 thanks so much man i really appreciate it and again huge fan of the show um listen pretty much
00:48:46.120 pretty much every episode you do um i would say you're you're like my go-to uh from all if on a
00:48:51.420 long drive or something and it's just been happening a lot because i've been traveling so
00:48:54.520 much for the midterms lately and um so you can go to amazon.com we've got it up on human socialist
00:49:00.840 revolution make sure you're getting the new edition a lot of people have been going back
00:49:04.860 buying the original which of course doesn't i don't mind as a uh as someone who you know is
00:49:09.820 selling books however we do want to show a good uh a good showing on our our release day on our
00:49:16.060 pub day which is coming up next tuesday so make sure you're getting the one that has this this
00:49:20.620 crazy uh it's on the side uh statue of tyranny behind me of course that's a reference to zora
00:49:25.420 mandami's new york city and the fall of new york so that's socialist revolution we also have
00:49:30.860 unhumansbook.com. Anyone wants signed copies, special editions. We've got all sorts of stuff
00:49:35.520 up there. Fantastic, guys. Make sure that you're picking that up. And of course, if it's your first
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