The Auron MacIntyre Show - Did Fox News Just Go Woke？｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz ｜ 5⧸24⧸23

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00:02:40.120 All right, guys.

00:02:40.900 So we're here today to talk about Fox News.

00:02:45.300 Now, Fox News, of course, loves to talk about woke corporations,

00:02:50.140 you know, complain about wokeness happening, those kind of things.

00:02:53.260 But recently, a report leaked showing that Fox News has a very interesting history of its own, its own employee handbook.

00:03:01.860 It has a lot of carve-outs talking about pronouns and those kind of things, a lot of stuff that people would consider woke.

00:03:09.060 But, you know, as Bog Beef pointed out on Twitter, this might not just be Fox News embracing wokeness.

00:03:16.020 This might have another source.

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00:04:43.740 All right, guys.

00:04:44.700 So let's go ahead and jump into it.

00:04:47.500 So like I said, a story has shown up here recently.

00:04:50.980 There was a leak of an employee handbook from what it looks like.

00:04:53.860 It was from 2021.

00:04:55.900 And the handbook has outlined a number of things that Fox News wants their employees to remember,

00:05:01.560 a number of guidelines that they're required to follow.

00:05:04.640 Now, let's not forget, of course, this isn't the first time that people have accused Fox News of going woke.

00:05:10.840 For many people, myself included,

00:05:12.540 the news network is not anywhere approaching right wing on many issues.

00:05:18.220 I think a lot of people would have a general problem with some of its coverage.

00:05:21.780 But very specifically, when it comes to kind of this new wave of wokeness,

00:05:26.080 this new wave of gender ideology,

00:05:29.300 Fox News has always used the preferred pronouns of people in its articles.

00:05:34.460 It has never given the correct pronouns for transgender individuals and instead kind of followed these guidelines when it comes to giving the preferred pronouns of those people.

00:05:45.500 The network also did a show in 2022 that seemed to praise a child transition in one of its segments.

00:05:56.040 And so this is not the first time that Fox News has come under fire for this.

00:05:59.720 And now we see the headlines and, you know, kind of these leaked documents, this leaked handbook.

00:06:04.760 And it looks like Fox News has different procedures outlined for workplace transition,

00:06:10.940 suggesting that, of course, employees use the preferred pronouns of transitioned employees in the workplace,

00:06:18.460 making sure that the transitioned individual feels comfortable going ahead and informing people of their pronouns.

00:06:25.040 Educating them is the word used here on how their pronouns should be used and about different parts about their identity.

00:06:33.060 And so it looks like there's a lot of language, you know,

00:06:36.380 goes further into gender fluidity and all these different things, non-binary.

00:06:40.200 And it looks like there's a lot of the type of HR language that we would expect from any woke corporation.

00:06:46.120 But, of course, Fox News spends a lot of time talking about how bad it is that corporations are going woke.

00:06:53.460 And so a lot of people said, oh, well, Fox News, they've gone woke.

00:06:56.400 They've done the Bud Light.

00:06:57.680 They've done the exact same thing as these other corporations.

00:07:01.240 What do you guys think?

00:07:02.600 Do you think that Fox News has suddenly embraced gender ideology here?

00:07:06.820 Or is there another explanation as to why they might feel compelled to work this stuff into their employee handbook?

00:07:14.040 Well, no, they haven't.

00:07:15.800 And, like, so the part of it, so this sort of starts out sounding like a black pill,

00:07:19.700 but it's the exact opposite of what's going on.

00:07:22.840 So, and, of course, I'm going to do the, you know, the two guys on SportsCenter.

00:07:31.220 I don't remember.

00:07:32.540 Who says those guys?

00:07:33.620 The white guy and the black guy? 0.98

00:07:35.100 Stuart Scott was one of them, right?

00:07:36.940 Well, not SportsCenter, but anyways.

00:07:38.760 It's not Skip Bayless, is it?

00:07:40.280 Yeah, Skip Bayless.

00:07:41.040 So anytime they praise, anytime they're going to rip somebody a new a-hole,

00:07:46.560 they start out by praising them.

00:07:48.400 So, like, if he's going to tear LeBron a new a-hole, he's going to come out with a LeBron jersey on, you know?

00:07:54.640 And so.

00:07:55.640 You're going to do the Stephen A. Smith voice?

00:07:57.460 Right.

00:07:57.840 And I'm going to, because I'm, this is a kind of a flip here, but.

00:08:01.280 But, so, I don't watch Fox News anymore.

00:08:06.060 None of the boomers around me watch him.

00:08:07.880 They've all flipped.

00:08:09.200 I know a boomer down the street that was pissed because his TV, it still flips.

00:08:16.680 When he turns on his TV, it starts on Fox, which annoys him.

00:08:20.940 Because now, because since they fired Tucker, all he wants to watch is Newsmax.

00:08:25.980 I think Newsmax is just more available here than OANN.

00:08:31.120 I don't have anything against OANN, but anyways.

00:08:35.160 And so, so that's how, I don't like Fox.

00:08:40.880 But this is not, this thing about the handbook and stuff, this isn't their fault.

00:08:46.000 If you started, if you started the National Organization for Anti-Transgender and this,

00:08:52.800 and this organization had more than 500 employees, you'd have the same thing in your handbook.

00:08:57.300 So, then Fox did not invent civil rights.

00:09:00.660 Now, I don't have anything to say about, if they're running woke stuff, like on, on their,

00:09:05.200 their sort of editorial programs, that's different.

00:09:07.460 But, so, the real issue is civil rights law.

00:09:10.600 And, so, for example, I don't know if people noticed, so this one particular issue,

00:09:16.960 transgenders got really, really, really, everything seemed like it just flipped like a switch. 1.00

00:09:23.560 What happened?

00:09:24.360 Why did all of a sudden this, this just like go into overdrive?

00:09:28.420 Why does every institution now sort of on the band, like all the way on the bandwagon?

00:09:33.960 Well, it's because the Supreme Court in 2020, there's a case called Bostock.

00:09:38.840 Now, this, and this, this is just like sort of one little, this is just one little,

00:09:43.200 uh, uh, one little piece of the civil rights puzzle here.

00:09:48.220 And, uh, and so, and here's, let me tell you something.

00:09:52.600 You can't do anything about that.

00:09:54.500 It's very, very unlikely that we could ever, we could, that we could do something about this

00:10:00.840 with the Senate and the Congress and the president.

00:10:03.440 I mean, you know, it's, it's certainly possible, but not anytime soon.

00:10:05.980 But let me tell you like this, that's like, this is like the, uh, probably, uh, one of

00:10:11.400 the most winnable things out there.

00:10:13.900 And plus if you're a elite theory guy, this is, this is a time to perk up because the only

00:10:19.020 way, the way this ends is with the Supreme court, literally people like the federalist

00:10:24.860 society could, uh, sort of get this in the heads of the, you know, the, the young jurists

00:10:29.820 and actually the Supreme court people, uh, because like, how did, how did we get here?

00:10:35.520 So like, why does right now, why, why does the civil rights act mean that like corporations

00:10:42.180 have to celebrate the generosity and stuff?

00:10:45.280 Like, why does that, well, that now remember that was never supposed to be, uh, like all

00:10:50.380 the, there's a whole Martin Bailey thing here.

00:10:53.240 And the Supreme, like what, like the, the original thing is supposed to be like, you can't get

00:10:57.560 fired frivolously from a job for being a wrong color or something like that, which by the

00:11:02.780 way, uh, OG, I don't think women or gay or any of that stuff was included, but, um, and

00:11:09.160 so I don't think anybody, if you want to roll that back, I mean, you know, that's not going

00:11:13.700 to happen.

00:11:14.260 And most people would feel like you shouldn't be fired for being the wrong color or something

00:11:19.200 like that.

00:11:19.660 That's, that's not really the issue, but what happens is right after the civil rights

00:11:23.260 act has passed, they start tacking all, all this stuff.

00:11:26.240 It's immediately, you get Griggs versus Duke power, which adds on the most egregious, the

00:11:31.960 absolute most egregious part of the civil rights act, which is disparate impact.

00:11:36.520 If there's anything that you could, if you want to sort of spread the word, tell people,

00:11:41.760 if people ask you, or you just want to talk to them about the wide civil rights is so bad,

00:11:46.320 just talk to them about disparate impact.

00:11:49.500 Disparate impact is insane.

00:11:51.680 It's insane.

00:11:52.880 Like I, you know, I spent my whole life listening to these people on Fox, for example, tell me

00:11:57.960 that we're just going to actually, why don't we're going to, we're going to get these Democrats

00:12:02.360 by just treating people as individuals.

00:12:05.380 I don't see race.

00:12:06.940 Well, let me tell you, that's been illegal since like 1965.

00:12:10.340 Right.

00:12:11.460 It's been illegal.

00:12:12.440 That, that, that's just like, that's illegal to do.

00:12:15.900 Yeah.

00:12:16.520 That, that's really, really important.

00:12:18.320 Like I cannot, like I cannot repeat, we cannot repeat this enough.

00:12:21.720 Uh, the current GOP strategy, the current GOP strategy for addressing the issue of race

00:12:29.840 and addressing the issue of identity politics in America is literally illegal by the very

00:12:36.700 act that Ted Cruz was saying that the GOP was central for supporting on Twitter yesterday.

00:12:43.080 Like literally the entire rhetorical approach of the Republican party to this issue has been

00:12:50.540 made illegal by civil rights law.

00:12:54.060 And so pretending that race does not exist is not an option because it literally is, it's

00:13:00.480 literally required to be observed by law by every corporation of more than 500 people.

00:13:07.160 But, but, but obviously we're going to get deeper into that Merrick.

00:13:10.420 Like maybe we can, uh, clarify for some of the people who are confused.

00:13:14.500 I thought wokeness was Marxism.

00:13:17.200 So why would, why would civil rights law require Fox news to like pay attention to every little

00:13:25.180 bit of this stuff?

00:13:26.160 Like, can't they just ignore it and say this stuff isn't real?

00:13:29.000 We're not woke.

00:13:29.940 Why do they, are they infiltrated with Marxists?

00:13:32.280 How are they being compelled to comply with this?

00:13:34.280 Well, you know, first of all, we, you, you, you, you kind of let Fox off the hook a little

00:13:41.240 bit.

00:13:41.640 You're, you're not wrong about this because after 2020 and that, uh, thanks to, thanks

00:13:46.420 to Gorsuch, uh, you know, using somebody's, uh, pro or sexual pronouns is part of the, is

00:13:52.900 considered like gender discrimination under the civil rights act.

00:13:56.060 So yeah, you, you would run into this problem anyway, but you know, Fox is doing their work

00:14:01.280 in what?

00:14:02.120 California and New York.

00:14:03.120 So not only are they, are they having to deal with the federal law, which is bad enough.

00:14:08.140 They have even stricter laws in those States, something you could do tomorrow if you were

00:14:13.620 Fox news and they won't because, by the way, that was, that was specifically true to this

00:14:17.940 case.

00:14:18.420 Uh, there was one of the, the, the statues that they were following was a New York statute,

00:14:24.360 like New York tack on civil rights law.

00:14:27.020 Sorry.

00:14:27.500 Exactly.

00:14:27.900 So what you could do tomorrow, if you were Fox news is you could move your Fox news operation

00:14:34.380 to Miami and not have to deal with any of that.

00:14:36.640 By the way, you know, where boomer max is there in Florida.

00:14:38.960 Yeah.

00:14:40.180 I mean, it's not like you, it's not, you were talking about Mississippi.

00:14:43.240 You could say, well, you're not going to get people to go to Mississippi.

00:14:45.640 You're not going to be able to get people to go to Miami.

00:14:47.920 Yeah.

00:14:48.040 I think you could probably swing that, but they're not going to because Rupert Murdoch is a shambling, 0.99

00:14:52.240 uh, zombie pervert. 0.96

00:14:54.700 And, and I, when it comes to like, are this Fox news woke? 0.97

00:14:59.300 No, but they, they definitely prefer those people to us.

00:15:03.680 They, they're vague, probably vaguely embarrassed about their, uh, viewership, but even Warren's

00:15:10.160 covered that in a very recent video about how these corporations like, you know, Target,

00:15:15.300 for example, or Bud, Bud Light have a problem where they don't really like their client, their

00:15:19.940 clientele, but they have to deal with them because that's where they're getting paid from.

00:15:24.120 But, uh, to answer your question, the, the good James Lindsay argument about, oh, well,

00:15:31.060 this is secretly Marxist.

00:15:32.920 Well, you know, federal law enforcement as we know it came about in eight, let's say 1870,

00:15:40.160 I think, which was, it doesn't predate Marxism, but I don't think that Karl Marx really had

00:15:46.560 a huge effect on the Republican, uh, Republican government that established this.

00:15:51.640 And this is a really age old, but this is.

00:15:53.720 I don't know.

00:15:54.060 I'm down for that conspiracy theory, honestly, but yeah, the letter to Lincoln was a secret.

00:15:58.660 Yeah.

00:15:58.760 It was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, was it the Manchurian candidate?

00:16:02.620 I'm a hundred percent on board on Lincoln.

00:16:05.460 Was it, was it deep cover Marxist?

00:16:07.160 I'm, I've, I'm, I'm bought in, but go ahead.

00:16:09.280 Sorry.

00:16:10.200 Yeah.

00:16:10.740 This is the problem is this is like a vulnerable spot for Americans for some reason.

00:16:15.240 And it always has been from, you know, going back to the eight to the 19th century is that

00:16:20.580 if you say I'm doing this on behalf of like a certain demographic group in, in, in the

00:16:27.440 country, who's, who's down on a lot, you can get away with a lot.

00:16:30.980 This is pretty much the same playbook they've run over and over again.

00:16:33.600 They did it in the 1870s.

00:16:35.820 They did it in the 1960s and you know, they do it today.

00:16:39.680 You watch it.

00:16:41.160 If you turn on the news, you know exactly what we're talking about.

00:16:44.420 So it has nothing, I'm not going to say it has nothing to do with Marxism because they

00:16:47.760 like threw in a lot of Mark Hughes ideas, but that's not the inciting ideology.

00:16:54.180 This is, unfortunately, this is a very homegrown idea.

00:16:57.020 And, you know, after all the Marxist dinosaurs died off in, in, in, in the 1990s, this didn't

00:17:04.620 slow down at all.

00:17:05.720 It excelled at nothing.

00:17:06.640 If anything, it has accelerated.

00:17:08.180 So that's just, that's cope.

00:17:09.900 And it's cope from guys like Lindsay because, you know, the call came from inside the house.

00:17:15.760 The people that, who subscribed to his professed ideology, they did this.

00:17:20.820 This is, this was a extremely liberal movement.

00:17:23.620 Like, did, did Carl Popper consider himself a Marxist, you know?

00:17:28.380 Yeah.

00:17:28.620 I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't matter because like I said, the, you know, the Republicans

00:17:32.060 in the 19th century were not Marxist.

00:17:34.200 And if you really wanted to say, here was the birth of this, it was then.

00:17:38.600 So that's going to be a problem for them forever.

00:17:40.460 But this is an excuse.

00:17:41.980 And it kind of, you kind of wrap this back into the behavior of Fox news.

00:17:46.840 Uh, James Lindsay doesn't want to be lumped in with us either.

00:17:52.360 And that, like you're going to see his behavior, guys like him, Hanania, they're just going 1.00

00:17:56.620 to have to do, they're going to have to signal to everybody, look, we're not crazy people.

00:18:00.620 We don't want to actually change anything.

00:18:02.260 We just want to slow this down.

00:18:03.540 We want to, you know, do a little janitorial work so you don't screw up all the great things

00:18:07.940 you've accomplished.

00:18:10.460 Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right.

00:18:12.320 I think there's a wider understanding for some of these mainstream anti-woke liberals, uh,

00:18:18.300 that they need to, they need to push back some of these elements.

00:18:21.160 You know, sure, they might've needed to make common cause with some of these people, but

00:18:24.880 they, they can't actually let them, you know, drive any of the policy because, uh, they,

00:18:29.220 they might actually make a change that's meaningful instead of simply, like you said, wearing off

00:18:33.620 the more extreme edges.

00:18:34.680 So the plan can kind of continue forward as, as originally, uh, intended.

00:18:39.280 But now that we understand the motivation behind Fox news here, right, we know that this

00:18:44.900 is civil rights law, that they have to comply this way.

00:18:47.640 That yes, they could avoid a lot of this stuff by moving to a place like Florida, but they

00:18:52.660 don't want to live in Florida.

00:18:53.580 They don't want to live with the plebs. 1.00

00:18:54.720 They want to live in New York.

00:18:55.880 They want to go to the cocktail parties.

00:18:57.980 You know, that that's why they got into the news business was not to lead some kind of

00:19:02.080 conservative movement.

00:19:02.900 It's to manage these people for the elite so that they can go ahead and continue their,

00:19:08.100 their lifestyle as they want.

00:19:09.980 And so I think we understand that that's not going to be, uh, while the Fox news probably

00:19:16.260 doesn't have conservative values, the reason it's embracing a lot of this ideology is that

00:19:22.660 it has to by law and it doesn't have another option.

00:19:26.740 But of course, it's also interesting to look at the ideology of the network.

00:19:30.300 Many people have pointed out that I think Fox news internally is not very conservative at

00:19:34.740 all.

00:19:34.980 Some of the hosts are a few of them are, but much of the staff is not obviously Rupert Murdoch

00:19:40.540 has some very serious problems with Tucker Carlson and, uh, along with, you know, uh,

00:19:46.780 the fact that Dominion may or may not have singled him out as an issue in their lawsuit.

00:19:52.520 It's very clear that there's already tensions, uh, created between these two camps, especially

00:19:56.600 when it comes to Tucker's willingness to look at things like January 6th, to address issues

00:20:01.160 like the transgender movement, uh, to call out the violence of that movement. 0.96

00:20:05.680 And very importantly, uh, you know, as we saw from kind of his speech right before his

00:20:09.940 show was ended, his willingness to address kind of the spiritual nature of these issues.

00:20:15.180 And so while Fox might not be 100% ideologically dedicated to progressive wokeness, it's very

00:20:21.300 clear that they're not exactly against toning down what has now become almost a full throated,

00:20:27.820 uh, resistance by conservatives to what's going on right now.

00:20:32.340 Well, the thing about Fox's ownership.

00:20:35.320 And so this can go different, this can go two different ways, right?

00:20:38.280 So, uh, for I understand Murdoch got into the conservative news business because there

00:20:44.900 was like a hole in it.

00:20:45.920 It was like, this is just like a flat business deal.

00:20:47.820 Like, Oh, there's a market segment, a little bit opening here.

00:20:50.100 I can, I can get in on this.

00:20:51.740 And so when you have this sort of, when you have a sort of an owner, that's not, that has

00:20:56.680 no like ideological commitment to, uh, whatever the thing is.

00:21:01.220 Um, the more that they ignore it, the better it is.

00:21:05.160 And sometimes these kinds of businesses, like you could have a conservative paper.

00:21:09.100 That's just amazing because there's some rich guy that owns it in Hong Kong.

00:21:13.580 He doesn't care.

00:21:14.400 He collects a check.

00:21:15.280 He doesn't know anything about it.

00:21:16.500 But the more that that, since that's not the case, the more that Murdoch is involved,

00:21:20.840 the worse is, but I just want to do an asterisk on, uh, you did bring up Hanania.

00:21:24.700 Hanania is solid gold on this subject. 0.99

00:21:27.980 And like, so I had, I'm, I'm not saying I'm a genius or anything, but I had come to a

00:21:32.420 lot of these conclusions myself, but certainly Hanania is, is the main guy for this.

00:21:37.920 And the things he wrote definitely pushed, like, uh, I'm sure it made it a bigger thing

00:21:42.800 in my mind.

00:21:43.280 Hanania is, is the best on the subject.

00:21:45.300 Now he, he's kind of, he's kind of got a little, he's kind of grossed out by people

00:21:49.960 on the right politically and stuff like that, but it doesn't matter.

00:21:53.160 Uh, and by the way, he, he's literally, I mean, he's, you gotta, you gotta give him

00:21:57.720 credit.

00:21:58.120 I don't like, I don't, but he's doing the thing.

00:22:00.660 So like two, he's two or three days ago, he gave the speech to the, um, uh, Yale, uh,

00:22:10.460 federalist society.

00:22:11.540 And he told him everything to need to do.

00:22:13.860 And he laid it out and like, you, you, you can't really argue with any of the things

00:22:18.360 that he said.

00:22:18.820 And he sort of got this, that access to that.

00:22:21.920 So, yeah.

00:22:23.000 So, so here's my thing with Hanania. 1.00

00:22:24.300 Like, obviously you're right that he is saying things no one else is saying, or at least not

00:22:29.040 a lot of people who had his audience is saying he gets credit for that.

00:22:32.920 I'm not going to take that away from him.

00:22:34.280 Um, even if half of them are warmed over Steve sailor takes who probably a lot, a lot

00:22:39.300 more credit in the first place, like Hanania basically, because he gets to say those things

00:22:44.160 from kind of the center left, uh, gets away from away with them.

00:22:48.000 And even though they're the same things that, you know, guys like sailor had recognized a

00:22:52.440 long time ago, but don't get to say on large platforms.

00:22:56.100 Uh, but, uh, but sorry, like his incredible disdain for, uh, red America.

00:23:03.680 I'm sorry.

00:23:04.380 Like, I just, I can't handle it.

00:23:05.880 Like, I, like, I, I'm glad he's saying what he's saying.

00:23:07.820 Good for him.

00:23:08.660 Um, but I know someone who's going to stab me in the back, uh, the minute I take one

00:23:12.220 step forward and that's exactly who it is.

00:23:14.280 So, you know, again, like he can say true things.

00:23:17.520 James Lindsay says true things.

00:23:18.940 These people are capable of saying true things.

00:23:20.700 I'm glad when they do that.

00:23:22.260 Um, but I just, I just know better than to trust them in any given foxhole, I guess.

00:23:26.100 Uh, I'm like, I'm like stalling.

00:23:28.160 Like I'll put you on a show trial after the war.

00:23:31.800 You know what I mean?

00:23:34.160 Yeah.

00:23:34.600 I mean, look, the news goblin is just going to act this way.

00:23:38.820 You don't have to, we don't have to give him any credit.

00:23:40.820 You know, if, if, if he wants to say that stuff, the Yale federalist society, that's

00:23:44.820 good, good for them.

00:23:46.180 But he's not, he's not a friend.

00:23:48.020 He's obviously an enemy.

00:23:50.180 Someone who, who uses a public platform to just attack your people relentlessly.

00:23:56.100 And I mean, when I say you're a people, I mean, you know, like literally our people,

00:24:00.180 he's just talking about how disgusting that we are.

00:24:02.620 And, you know, no, we don't, you don't have to put up with that.

00:24:05.960 You don't have to say, well, you got to give him credit.

00:24:07.720 No, no, you don't.

00:24:09.460 Well, uh, I don't know.

00:24:11.720 I mean, just being objective, uh, he's got this access.

00:24:14.760 He's sort of putting this information for these people.

00:24:16.940 And that's kind of what needs to happen.

00:24:19.260 Uh, uh, you know, I don't know.

00:24:21.420 It's, it's, it's, it's, I don't, I don't have to love him, but, uh, you know,

00:24:24.800 I can do business with him.

00:24:26.260 You know what I'm saying?

00:24:27.800 Sure.

00:24:28.740 Yeah.

00:24:30.360 Yeah.

00:24:30.720 No, I hear you on that again.

00:24:31.720 Like I said, it's, I'm glad he's saying what he's saying.

00:24:33.940 I'm glad when, when these people say things that are true, even if they, you know, they

00:24:37.880 can't turn around the next minute and, uh, and crush, you know, like, uh, what was it?

00:24:42.340 Uh, Iglesias.

00:24:43.640 What's his, what's his first name?

00:24:45.020 Uh, Matt, thank you.

00:24:46.720 Like, you know, he'll, he'll say true things from time, from time to time.

00:24:49.960 I'm glad when he does that, I just don't expect this guy to ever be on my side.

00:24:53.320 Right.

00:24:53.620 Oh yeah.

00:24:54.560 Okay.

00:24:54.980 I'm, I'm kind of like, I got, I understand the American perspective.

00:24:58.480 We talk about Iglesias.

00:25:00.260 Well, this is the same thing.

00:25:01.620 This is, to me, this is the same thing.

00:25:03.260 Maybe that's true.

00:25:04.160 Maybe I've got, you know, the wrong, the wrong perspective.

00:25:07.820 Cause whenever, anytime Iglesias says something that's like a right wing or whatever, you know,

00:25:13.180 I'm like, just like, he's just doing that to, you know, get in, uh, you know,

00:25:17.560 You get us one, one billion Americans.

00:25:20.200 Yeah.

00:25:20.540 Oh man.

00:25:21.140 He should belongs in jail.

00:25:22.920 Well, yeah, sure.

00:25:23.800 Yeah.

00:25:24.060 Hanani is just a less charismatic version of Matt Iglesias, which said, which says

00:25:28.140 It is impressive.

00:25:29.100 Yes.

00:25:29.660 So we were talking about Murdoch.

00:25:31.480 This, this brings me around to something that you've, I think you threw up a nice little

00:25:36.020 thread about it either this morning or yesterday.

00:25:39.800 You know, Murdoch's thing is, yeah, he entered this, he entered a market that was underserved

00:25:43.900 and he, he, this is pretty much what he did in, in every media venture that he ever got

00:25:49.300 involved in.

00:25:50.280 The only thing that I think that you could consistently say that Murdoch, like if he had, uh, an ethos

00:25:56.360 is he's a smut merchant.

00:25:57.820 He likes that. 1.00

00:25:59.000 And I think he is a per, as a human being, as a person, he is filthy. 1.00

00:26:03.720 And he really, according to what people have said, he really got worked up when Tucker Carlson 0.97

00:26:09.120 started talking about his, his faith, his Christian religion.

00:26:12.260 And that, that supposedly scared Rupert Murdoch.

00:26:15.980 Now, we obviously can't, you know, allegedly, we can't say that exactly what happened, but

00:26:20.360 I have no trouble believing that.

00:26:23.020 And it brings me around to, there was this story yesterday about the, the, the LA Dodgers

00:26:28.960 have invited, disinvited, and then re-invited a drag, group of drag performers who dress up

00:26:37.020 like nuns and our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and do a, like a gay drag show that's themed 0.79

00:26:44.080 after, I don't know, the, the, the apostles and, and, and, you know, it's just, just straight 0.89

00:26:49.400 up a minstrel show attacking.

00:26:52.880 It's not exactly Jesus Christ Superstar.

00:26:54.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:56.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:57.340 Uh, you, you had a good point, you, you, you had a good point, you, you had a good thread,

00:27:00.420 like, so if you're, if you were James Lindsay, can you explain why this is happening?

00:27:05.860 If this is all about, you know, Karl Marx materialism, the secret back door to get class warfare to

00:27:11.560 happen, why is it turning to this?

00:27:13.260 Why did they have the statue in New York on the courthouse of the, you know, the woman with

00:27:18.480 the horns and the weird tentacle arms?

00:27:20.360 Why does it always come back to Baphomet and Moloch if, if this is really just secretly

00:27:26.000 a way to, you do, do, do communism, but, but through woke ideology?

00:27:31.560 Why does it always get back to this?

00:27:34.000 When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most?

00:27:37.680 When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard?

00:27:42.520 When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing to grill?

00:27:45.200 When the in-laws decide that, actually, they will stay for dinner?

00:27:48.460 Yeah, it's because that's the core of it.

00:28:07.360 And it's really, Lindsay obviously can't admit this.

00:28:10.240 None of these kind of centrist liberals, you know, these IDW types can admit this.

00:28:14.240 I mean, maybe, you know, obviously like Jordan Peterson, but, but a lot of these people can't

00:28:17.880 admit this because the entire thing about their worldview was about disenchanting the

00:28:22.700 world, right?

00:28:23.160 The classical liberal worldview is about the disenchantment of the world.

00:28:26.700 It's about the removal of the spiritual.

00:28:28.800 It's about removing the metaphysical.

00:28:30.780 It's about removing, removing these things that are above our rationality or reason, putting

00:28:35.920 them all in kind of this, you know, coat closet and trying to find some kind of minimum viable

00:28:42.140 operating system that can allow us to all like buy and sell widgets from each other.

00:28:46.320 And, you know, that does a lot of impressive things.

00:28:49.140 Obviously, it's made a lot of people rich.

00:28:50.580 We've made some really important advancements during that time.

00:28:54.440 But one thing it really makes you do is forget that these things are real and that they remain

00:28:59.620 active and that they will continue to consume your, your world.

00:29:04.320 One of the reasons classical liberalism is so open and so easy to infiltration is it denies

00:29:09.580 a lot of really powerful truths and it just kind of hollows out your civilization's ability

00:29:14.960 to resist any of this evil because it turns it all into like, you know, science that moves

00:29:19.580 everything, all these conflicts of moral vision into the realm of the scientific.

00:29:23.960 And all of a sudden you're sitting in a position where you don't have these like really basic

00:29:28.040 mechanisms that were built into human beings like disgust and shame that were supposed to

00:29:32.840 protect you from this stuff, like these really deep human intuitions that you can't really

00:29:39.140 explain.

00:29:40.000 You can't rationally sort out in any given situation, but are incredibly valuable because

00:29:44.800 they protect you against deep, horrible things that you can't really speak the name of.

00:29:48.940 And all of a sudden you've stripped all that stuff away.

00:29:51.420 And yeah, again, that was really useful for the market.

00:29:53.940 Congratulations.

00:29:54.520 You can sell all kinds of really crazy things when you get rid of that stuff.

00:29:58.760 But eventually it degrades your society in a way that becomes obvious.

00:30:02.760 And so it's really important that this stuff, of course, again, is not spiritual.

00:30:05.700 So I think if you put this question to someone like Lindsay, you'd be like, oh, well, these

00:30:09.500 are, you know, they don't really believe in the devil.

00:30:11.240 They don't really believe in Satan.

00:30:12.920 This is all ironic, you know, ironic post modern blah, blah, blah, blah, blah to try to break

00:30:18.480 down, you know, rationality, whatever.

00:30:21.100 But yeah, it is that.

00:30:22.560 But also there's no such thing as ironic Satanism because that's what Satanism is, right, is

00:30:27.140 the rejection of any understanding of order, understanding of natural hierarchies, the

00:30:33.280 understanding of kind of the laws that have been placed into our universe by something

00:30:37.080 divine.

00:30:38.140 And so, yeah, you can be ironic about your effectuation of that position.

00:30:43.220 But at the end of the day, you're still doing the work.

00:30:45.240 And that's kind of the whole point.

00:30:46.780 It's so obvious that he has his, you know, he has his own religion where Karl Marx is the

00:30:55.320 devil.

00:30:56.120 I'm like, I don't know, the East India Company or wherever, wherever the classical liberalism

00:31:02.860 comes from, you know, the guys pushing heroin to China and stuff like that. 0.97

00:31:09.160 It's completely ridiculous.

00:31:10.920 One of the best things I took from your recent series on Dugan is the part where, and I'm 0.99

00:31:18.220 paraphrasing, but Dugan's like, all these things are dead.

00:31:22.140 He's like, oh, if you, if you like the Hugo Boss uniforms from fascism, you can just take

00:31:26.740 them.

00:31:27.120 It doesn't matter.

00:31:27.980 Fascism dead. 0.68

00:31:28.880 Hitler's dead. 0.98

00:31:29.740 Mussolini's dead.

00:31:30.940 And then communism, Karl Marx is dead. 0.57

00:31:33.900 All these people are dead.

00:31:34.720 All that stuff is over.

00:31:35.800 And I like the main thing I don't get about this because people will say like, well, you're

00:31:41.000 going soft if you don't, if you're like main enemy, isn't like 20th century Russia, like

00:31:49.460 like, so clearly we have enemies now.

00:31:53.460 Right.

00:31:53.880 And so let's, let's say you were, let's say these people, right.

00:31:58.140 Like these people were really secretly motivated by Karl Marx and stuff like that.

00:32:02.600 Like, well, does, is that help you?

00:32:04.940 Like, how does that help you?

00:32:06.080 Is that make you better predicting what they're going to do?

00:32:08.740 Because I don't really think so.

00:32:10.720 Like we know, like we have enemies right now and they don't walk around calling themselves

00:32:15.940 communists, you know?

00:32:17.660 So like, you know, we could just, we could just, you know, fight the battles that's in

00:32:23.600 front of us and not the one that's, that's, that's gone.

00:32:26.720 You get the ghost dancing thing.

00:32:28.140 Like, yeah, it's, I, it's hard, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're not being

00:32:31.260 ruled by Foucault or Mark Hughes.

00:32:32.760 You're being ruled by the civil rights act, like that's what, that's, what's operative.

00:32:37.220 Like that's, what's actually going to take your children.

00:32:39.040 Don't get me wrong.

00:32:39.960 Like Foucault might've argued for, you know, the, the allowance of the kind of stuff that's

00:32:44.320 going to happen to your children at the hands of the state, but it's going to, but the operative

00:32:48.100 legislation that's going to allow the government to do this stuff is the kind of stuff we're

00:32:51.820 talking about right now.

00:32:52.740 Like if you, this thing, like, uh, even if I love the Soviet union, if you're trying

00:32:59.560 to sort of, uh, if you think that Karl Marx tells, gives you like a perfect roadmap to

00:33:05.660 the decisions that Joseph Stalin's going to make, you're wrong.

00:33:09.940 You're wrong.

00:33:10.920 Like he, like he didn't, you know, he didn't become the, you know, the, the God emperor

00:33:14.960 of the Soviet union because, uh, he read the most Karl Marx books that he was just a

00:33:19.360 ruthless thug that took this thing over and as time passes, these things, the, I just

00:33:24.780 love that about, about the Dugan stuff where he, you know, he, he really gets that pushes

00:33:29.460 that, that we, you know, we live, we live in a different world than, uh, the, the sort

00:33:37.260 of the heroic battles of world war II and all that stuff like that.

00:33:40.840 I would say you're, you're, you're part where he has his own religion is correct, but 0.99

00:33:46.100 the thing is it's, it's, you know, it's not a religion where Karl Marx is the devil, but 0.80

00:33:50.720 it's like an animist religion and, you know, word, word sell crap, words, ideas are imbued

00:33:58.440 with some kind of, uh, really it's like the, so there's like a metaphysical power of these

00:34:03.340 things.

00:34:03.840 And in the mind of James Lindsay, who is a Reddit atheist, like he's God.

00:34:09.580 And I mean that in a sense, like there's nothing greater than him.

00:34:12.400 There's no power greater than him.

00:34:13.920 He has figured everything out and unfortunately, if this was just like a James Lindsay thing,

00:34:18.440 he would be, uh, uh, you know, a bizarre cult guy and we could ignore him, but we're not.

00:34:23.380 He, that's the religion of the people who've run the country for at least two generations.

00:34:28.880 If you're being, if you're being conservative about it, probably a lot longer than that.

00:34:33.100 And that, that is why, that's the real reason why we always get back to, you know, there's,

00:34:39.220 there's always going to be a Baphomet statue on Epstein Island or whatever.

00:34:43.000 That's why it is because they revel in picturing themselves having the power, like the ultimate

00:34:50.720 power to being as powerful as God.

00:34:52.840 That's really, they can't get past that.

00:34:56.500 And once you, once you've like, this is, there's a good reason why in our religion pride is like

00:35:04.040 the greatest sin.

00:35:04.940 And if it's funny, when you think about that, how many people in this country are ostensibly

00:35:10.340 Christians, but I think we don't, we, we don't follow that theology anymore.

00:35:17.420 Pride is not, it's not something that's a deadly sin any longer.

00:35:21.420 It's celebrated literally, literally a whole month.

00:35:24.080 Yeah.

00:35:24.260 There's going to be, yeah, there's going to be an entire like Roman fest, extended festival

00:35:28.240 to debauchery.

00:35:29.640 And it's going to be literally called pride.

00:35:31.580 I think there, there might've been a verse or two about, about corn hauling too, by the

00:35:35.440 way, not, not just the, not just the pride.

00:35:39.560 You're talking about the, you're talking about the, the, the, the game you play in the parking

00:35:44.340 lot.

00:35:44.960 Exactly.

00:35:45.820 Right.

00:35:46.060 Okay.

00:35:47.640 That's a terrible game.

00:35:49.040 No, I just want to be clear that.

00:35:50.940 Yeah.

00:35:51.060 Mark, we, you're right that we've spent a lot of time, you know, here talking, mentioning

00:35:54.740 Lindsay, but to be really clear, it's not just him.

00:35:56.760 He's, he's not like, he didn't come up with this.

00:35:59.120 He's not the only guy doing this.

00:36:00.520 Like we're focused on him now.

00:36:02.980 Cause he's the one who's loudest about it.

00:36:04.580 He was just, you know, basically he just agrees with the left on Christianity. 0.97

00:36:07.600 He hates Christians. 0.96

00:36:08.580 He's scared of Christians. 0.99

00:36:09.520 He's more worried about Christians than he is about the woke. 0.51

00:36:12.160 He's a moderate progress.

00:36:13.300 He's a reformed progress.

00:36:14.300 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:15.160 And, and so, and so at the end of the day, he might not like the excess of wokeness and

00:36:19.340 some people might listen to him because of that, but he's not their friend.

00:36:22.240 He's not their ally.

00:36:23.220 He hates them.

00:36:24.080 He wishes that they would never have power again, that their views would be purged from

00:36:27.780 the public square.

00:36:28.600 Like, and he's, and, and he's not particularly coy about that to his credit.

00:36:31.520 Like, it's not like he's hiding this when he's showing up on all these conservative,

00:36:34.800 uh, you know, shows of whatnot.

00:36:36.800 He just, the people don't care because they want to hear him, you know, lay out the, the

00:36:41.000 80,000 point plan to get rid of wokeness. 1.00

00:36:43.420 But, uh, but, but the point is like people like him are always going to be there.

00:36:48.240 Sam Harris was this before Sam Harris decided, right?

00:36:51.540 Sam Harris was doing exactly this thing, right?

00:36:53.400 He was, Oh, wokeness is dangerous. 1.00

00:36:55.340 Wokeness is dangerous.

00:36:56.080 Trump shows up. 0.97

00:36:57.000 Sam Harris loses his effing mind.

00:36:58.560 Lindsay's on that arc right now, by the way, by the way, 2024 ends, he's going to be Sam

00:37:02.720 Harris.

00:37:03.280 Yeah.

00:37:03.380 He'll be talking about how he doesn't care how many bodies are buried under Biden's house.

00:37:06.780 Yeah.

00:37:07.020 It's absolutely. 0.60

00:37:08.040 He'll, he'll be talking about how you have to censor Christians and gulag them all to

00:37:11.980 keep them from, yeah, it's, it's, he's absolutely on that heart. 0.98

00:37:15.020 Got to get them weapons of mass destruction too. 0.88

00:37:18.800 It's funny.

00:37:19.480 If you remember the early two thousands, there was this concept that, uh, global war on terror

00:37:25.480 advocates talked about the moderate Muslim, we got to do, we're going to, we're going

00:37:29.240 to have the help of the moderate Muslims to, to do X and Y. 0.96

00:37:33.160 And so it's like, uh, uh, a category of person who basically doesn't exist.

00:37:37.700 And that has nothing to do with, with the Islamic faith.

00:37:40.780 It's just, you're, you're, you're making up.

00:37:42.500 I mean, it's, it's good for them.

00:37:43.680 It's basically saying we should make like the Unitarian church for Muslims, uh, make a

00:37:48.780 Pope for it and have them tell these guys to do what we want.

00:37:52.200 Right.

00:37:52.300 And James Lindsay is the moderate Muslim of their religion, which is good news for us 1.00

00:37:56.360 because it means like they, they hate him because he's an apostate and we hate him because he's

00:38:00.680 not one of, he's not one of us and he never will be.

00:38:02.900 So the good news is people like him, you're not going to have to worry about them.

00:38:06.540 They're always going to go this arc.

00:38:07.800 They're always going to end up, you know, like Sam Harris.

00:38:10.620 But the, the, the, you know, the bad news is they're helping, just helping destroy us.

00:38:16.820 They're pushing us to the mark, to the margins in our own country as they have been, you know,

00:38:22.000 if you want to, if you wanted to put a date on it, you could, you could do worse than

00:38:25.620 1964.

00:38:26.620 I thought you said a great thing.

00:38:28.380 I loved it.

00:38:29.120 I loved it to do this because this is, um, this is like one of these things that, uh,

00:38:33.740 cause you know, they always talk about the big science and stuff like that.

00:38:36.620 And, um, one of the things I'll sort of claim is sort of God is incompatible with science

00:38:41.420 and there's, but there's things they don't tell you.

00:38:43.940 So number, so here's the funny thing.

00:38:45.600 So I'll pick this up from listening to Dr.

00:38:47.980 Drew.

00:38:48.200 You know, Dr.

00:38:48.820 Drew is this addiction medicine specialist.

00:38:51.220 I don't think he's a particularly religious man or anything like that, but you pick up

00:38:54.580 something, you listen to him when he, when he talks about his job.

00:38:57.380 So, you know, he's, he, uh, people says I'm addicted to drugs.

00:39:01.580 I need help.

00:39:02.580 I need you to do something for me.

00:39:03.860 Doctor, doctor, you know, doctor, they didn't go to their, their priest or whatever.

00:39:07.140 They went to a doctor.

00:39:08.300 If you like, and if you go to a medical doctor who went to a med school, uh, they are not going

00:39:15.380 to treat you, uh, and by the way, this is in reference to Merrick, you, you made a reference

00:39:20.540 to, uh, something being greater than you.

00:39:24.480 And that, that is such a great sort of, uh, way to describe religion as such.

00:39:29.640 So, uh, if you go to one of these doctors, tell them I need to get off drugs.

00:39:33.220 Here's one thing.

00:39:33.920 They will not treat you unless you get into a 12 step program.

00:39:38.940 Now in the 12 step program will not treat you unless like this, this, this form of treatment,

00:39:47.400 it does just physically doesn't work unless you are, unless you are able to, to accept

00:39:54.500 the concept that there's something greater than you because, you know, it's important in

00:39:59.560 this because like literally their mind is lying to them.

00:40:02.860 Like their mind is like, you can take, you can take some more heroin.

00:40:06.640 It's fine.

00:40:07.400 Or you need some more heroin. 0.51

00:40:08.620 You'll die if you don't get it.

00:40:09.720 So someone in that case really needs to understand, like they, they're going to die if they don't

00:40:15.600 understand that their brain is not the most, not the biggest thing in the universe, that

00:40:22.000 there, there is something they have to have it.

00:40:24.100 They have to have a foundation outside themselves.

00:40:26.580 And, uh, remember this.

00:40:28.480 And so these doctors that, uh, go to med school and they're not, they're not a religious doctor.

00:40:34.700 They have to use this crutch to do their job.

00:40:38.220 They have to.

00:40:39.840 And I don't know.

00:40:41.240 I just feel like that should be more publicized.

00:40:43.980 No, that's a really good point.

00:40:45.100 That's one of the things that always struck me.

00:40:46.580 You guys familiar with Rob, uh, Halford of Judas Priest.

00:40:49.820 I don't know.

00:40:50.200 Um, but, but, you know, this guy is the lead singer of Judas Priest.

00:40:54.260 Obviously he's a rock star.

00:40:55.620 He's, he's gay. 1.00

00:40:56.920 He, his, uh, his live in boyfriend had just like blown his own head off.

00:41:01.640 Cause they had just like got trapped in this like downward spiral of drugs or whatever. 0.81

00:41:05.360 And, and just like a ridiculous thing.

00:41:08.100 And as he's trying to recover, the first thing he does when he like gets into an interview

00:41:12.640 is like, yeah, I'm recovering because like, I now understand that like, there's a higher

00:41:18.740 power over me and I have to like, like, like you're saying like this guy who should stand

00:41:23.440 for everything against this, like in order to become clean.

00:41:26.060 The first thing he says is, is acknowledge exactly what you're talking about.

00:41:29.000 When you get into a serious situation, you have to, you, this is, these are like, and

00:41:33.140 so if you're, if you're in a very comfortable situation, maybe you don't have to understand

00:41:37.320 this, but people on the end of the rope, they have to understand this.

00:41:41.100 And I just always, these doctors, they, they don't publicize this, but they, they, they

00:41:46.260 will, they need this too.

00:41:48.800 You, you might, you might be listening to this and asking, why are they talking about

00:41:51.520 religion?

00:41:52.000 This is about wokeness and civil rights law.

00:41:54.340 But the thing is, you know, this, everybody has a religion.

00:41:59.780 I, I, I don't, I'm not, I know I'm not the first person to say this, but like my thing

00:42:03.740 is every education is a religious education, whether you realize it or not.

00:42:07.760 I was, uh, a very good, uh, post, uh, by James Kirkpatrick the other day on Twitter, he was

00:42:14.140 saying, you know, every, every nation has ever existed and ever will has his own state

00:42:19.900 religion.

00:42:20.760 Also not the first person to say that, but it's obvious.

00:42:23.080 And if you, if you tell me that you, you know, I'm not religious, not only are you wrong,

00:42:28.520 I know exactly what religion you belong to.

00:42:30.620 That's like, that's the creed of, of the civil religion that runs the United States.

00:42:34.960 And the civil rights movement, not necessarily the civil rights act, but the civil rights

00:42:40.340 movement is their, it's like their, their biblical tale, right?

00:42:46.240 It's the passion play.

00:42:47.480 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:48.480 It's the stations of the cross.

00:42:49.780 They kind of have the, they kind of have the old Testament and the new Testament.

00:42:52.780 The old Testament was before 64, you know, Abraham Lincoln was Moses, right? 0.88

00:42:58.800 And, and they had, they had this, the first act and it moved on to the second act.

00:43:03.420 And it, it, it, it used to be kind of, that used to be a hard, so I was telling you before

00:43:08.440 we came on to, to say the things that we were saying now, if we said it two years ago, it

00:43:13.720 would have been, we would have been written off as crazy, but more and more people have,

00:43:18.540 are coming to accept it because it's so obvious because of the way they behave about these things.

00:43:22.240 They don't treat, they don't treat, you know, your arguments about transsexuals as a difference

00:43:27.240 of opinion or ideology, you know, or, well, this pluralism won't learn to get along.

00:43:31.940 No, they treat you like you have blasphemed against their God because you have, this is,

00:43:37.400 this is part, this is part and parcel.

00:43:40.000 It's absolutely necessary for this to be possible for their religion to work. 0.97

00:43:45.980 And as the main thing that their religion offers is the promise of material abundance.

00:43:52.620 That's always been what it, what it has, what it has offered.

00:43:55.140 Now, it also offers you, like all religions do, comfort and gives you meaning in your life.

00:44:01.720 But, because it's a material, it's explicitly materialist religion, part of that is we have

00:44:07.100 to be able to give you stuff.

00:44:08.700 And as it gets harder and harder for them to do that, to deliver that because of mistakes

00:44:13.300 that they've made and just the decline of empire in general, they're going to get crazier

00:44:19.400 and crazier about this.

00:44:20.400 They have to keep slicing pieces of the electorate, pieces of the country off and pushing them

00:44:26.040 out of the groups that has allowed to have anything and take and literally take your

00:44:32.060 stuff and give it to their friends.

00:44:34.180 Now, James Lindsay would call this Marxism, but it's not, it's like, it's just not, someone

00:44:38.800 in Sumeria would have completely understood this.

00:44:41.600 Oh, you mean your king is going to go and attack these people and take all their stuff and give

00:44:45.540 it to his, give it to himself.

00:44:46.860 Throw it out of their gods, the red statues of your gods. 0.94

00:44:49.860 Yeah.

00:44:49.900 Yeah.

00:44:50.100 He wasn't, you know, Ingalls wasn't channeling through Marduk, right?

00:44:54.660 This is just something, this is a part of human nature.

00:44:57.040 But James Lindsay, ironically, just like the people that he complains about 24-7, doesn't

00:45:05.040 believe in human nature.

00:45:06.180 So he's not able to see this.

00:45:07.440 Yeah.

00:45:08.440 It all goes back to Zeus.

00:45:10.580 Uh, another little thing about this is that, um, just a big bonus of if, if we were able

00:45:19.440 to do something about civil rights and I really do think we could, I mean, like the main things

00:45:24.540 that like, it's, it's so much, it would be so much easier.

00:45:28.320 It's funny.

00:45:28.940 This is like one of the biggest, the, the biggest, hairiest monsters in all politics, but

00:45:34.000 like, uh, because of whatever variety of reasons, specifically that you don't need to pass a

00:45:41.540 law to deal with this.

00:45:43.260 Uh, it's one of the, it's one of the more solvable problems.

00:45:46.300 If we were to solve this problem, one of the biggest ways that the Democrat party runs is

00:45:51.080 on these racial, ethnic, and other, uh, patronage schemes and like the ways that they can pay

00:45:59.360 these people and, uh, is because these are the, these are the protected classes and protected

00:46:05.960 classes is definitely something that can be wiped away.

00:46:11.080 The Supreme court could do it tomorrow if they had the will to do it, but they don't because

00:46:15.580 you know, that that's not in the, that's not in the original law.

00:46:18.860 These guys could do that.

00:46:19.920 And you'll notice that like, um, there's no protected group that votes Republican.

00:46:25.640 You know what I mean?

00:46:27.200 Every protected group is a group.

00:46:29.240 If you've got a group that votes 80% Democrat, they're, they're protected class. 0.90

00:46:34.140 Well, but that's not true.

00:46:35.560 There are, they say protected class doesn't mean.

00:46:38.600 Were you going to Moonies or something?

00:46:40.480 Well, I'm wondering what, who are you referencing?

00:46:43.020 Christians, Christians vote Republican. 0.59

00:46:45.940 No, he just said that aren't that, that are protected class.

00:46:49.460 Christian is a protected class. 1.00

00:46:50.860 Okay.

00:46:51.320 Well, we'll go, go, but it's not a protected class.

00:46:53.280 Go put a case for them in the same way that white and male is not a protected class. 0.60

00:46:58.400 Yeah.

00:46:58.740 Right.

00:46:59.180 But the, okay.

00:47:00.740 Yes.

00:47:01.340 You're saying de facto, they're not protected, but right, right, right.

00:47:04.680 But by the, the law says they are, the law says that Christians and white men, they're 0.56

00:47:09.880 all protected classes.

00:47:10.900 Yeah.

00:47:11.480 But that's useless.

00:47:13.620 That is a broken path.

00:47:15.180 I mean, so that, that path, people have thought about that.

00:47:18.160 Like what if we just use civil rights for white people, that, that is a broken path. 0.75

00:47:24.220 That, that is just not going to work in my opinion.

00:47:27.060 Well, this is, sorry, finish your thought.

00:47:30.160 We both kind of jumped in.

00:47:31.040 This is this, this is this, you're, it's exactly what you said a second ago.

00:47:34.260 It's a decision that the justices could make tomorrow.

00:47:37.340 If they chose to, you could, you could, and they might be doing that with the affirmative 0.83

00:47:42.720 action ruling that they're, that's going to come down soon.

00:47:45.600 You can say this discriminates against white people.

00:47:48.380 You can't do this.

00:47:49.200 This violates the civil rights act.

00:47:51.380 The law, the, the text of the civil rights act, in theory, offers you the same protections

00:47:57.000 that offers people who vote for the democratic party.

00:47:59.960 I know in practice that doesn't happen, but my point is that's a way you could do this

00:48:04.120 without repealing anything.

00:48:05.580 You can, you could tomorrow change the way these things are actually enforced and that

00:48:11.160 the court has that power, but this is the same court in 2020 that made transsexuals officially

00:48:18.060 part of the, officially a protected class.

00:48:20.420 They're not going to do that.

00:48:21.480 Gorsuch is a, maybe if, if Trump would have appointed different people to the court, you

00:48:27.480 could, we could have this conversation, but he didn't.

00:48:29.680 And it's probably not going to happen.

00:48:31.880 Yeah.

00:48:32.320 I think the affirmative action decision will be the most important crux of this.

00:48:35.960 If we're obviously, you know, the, the road decision was shocking.

00:48:41.400 No one expected it.

00:48:42.400 I think a lot of people, uh, couldn't believe the court took an action like that.

00:48:47.340 So before that, I would have certainly said like, Oh, Supreme court's looking at affirmative

00:48:51.540 action.

00:48:52.060 Sure.

00:48:52.460 Yeah.

00:48:52.620 Right.

00:48:52.780 Right.

00:48:52.880 After the, you know, you, you catch the unicorns or whatever.

00:48:56.140 Uh, but, but now it does seem like something that might possibly really get addressed and

00:49:01.320 the manner in which they address it, whether it's a narrow ruling or whether it's something

00:49:05.580 that really does kind of shift the ground under kind of our, our current regime and the civil

00:49:11.320 rights regime, I think is, is pretty key.

00:49:13.780 I think that'll be a really interesting, uh, you know, we can sit around and kind of pontificate

00:49:18.380 on which way this thing's going to go or how action could best be taken.

00:49:21.380 But I think that ruling is going to be kind of a seismic shift if it, if it takes any action

00:49:25.680 of real substance.

00:49:28.400 Yeah.

00:49:28.880 And you know, the thing about that is the ruling, they're already looking for ways around

00:49:34.220 this and I see somebody in chat kind of getting ahead of it here, which is the problem is

00:49:39.720 you can't take a system that was designed to attack a group of people, let's say white

00:49:46.220 Christians, you know, who founding stock of the United States or whatever, you can't 1.00

00:49:49.860 take a system designed to punish them and take stuff from them and turn that around.

00:49:53.940 The system just simply won't allow it.

00:49:56.100 And they could very easily, they can very easily do that when it comes to, yeah, you can

00:50:02.000 make affirmative action against the law in a text of the law, but Harvard can still, can

00:50:10.740 still do that.

00:50:11.280 They can, that, that's true.

00:50:12.740 Okay.

00:50:13.100 So that's true.

00:50:14.060 How, like, by the way, you know, you can, you can get rid of affirmative action, uh, using 0.97

00:50:19.980 the same path.

00:50:20.880 Like, uh, I don't know if you've seen, you know what Texas does, Texas, uh, they, all the

00:50:25.320 schools have to guarantee that the, uh, if you make like an AV honor roll, you have to

00:50:31.240 get into college.

00:50:31.980 And that's so many people that basically it gets rid of, uh, affirmative action.

00:50:36.320 University of Texas does that.

00:50:37.480 That's, that's, that's like, so you could do that in reverse by the way, but like, uh,

00:50:41.260 I would not, I mean, be careful.

00:50:43.600 Like, so these sort of changes to Supreme court law would have huge effects.

00:50:48.780 Now, if the Supreme court ruling was just on affirmative action, I mean, eh, you know,

00:50:53.920 maybe that, maybe there'd be some movement.

00:50:55.240 I mean, by the way, you know, this is to some extent it's true for, uh, for, for abortion.

00:51:00.840 I mean, so, you know, they're, they still got these pills, they could drive you to States

00:51:04.720 and stuff, but the, the sort of big fundamental changes that would happen from, uh, the, uh,

00:51:12.240 getting rid of things like protected classes, disparate impact and stuff would be huge.

00:51:16.400 They would be respected.

00:51:17.580 I mean, so, you know, Supreme court makes rulings about guns and stuff that people don't like

00:51:22.520 and we have to follow it beyond the material.

00:51:24.700 And I know people don't like this kind of analysis, but like, even if let's say the,

00:51:29.940 the Dobbs decision changed, not like if every person, like abortion is illegal in Texas now.

00:51:37.240 So if every person in Texas who would have gotten abortion instead of orders pills off

00:51:41.400 of Amazon or whatever, and they still have the abortion, the doc, that, that ruling still

00:51:46.240 matters because you have gone from something that is not as legal and celebrated by the,

00:51:53.160 the state government, whether it was or not, you live next to an abortion clinic in Texas.

00:51:59.520 You see, you saw this every day you go from that to, okay, this is something you're going

00:52:05.000 to do in secret through the mail that makes a difference.

00:52:08.220 That sends a message to people.

00:52:09.900 It, once you, as Oran alluded to earlier about things like shame and disgust, once you, you

00:52:16.560 know, put the, the label on something that makes it low status and gross, there's really

00:52:23.440 no coming back from that, especially unless, unless you have some kind of overriding moral

00:52:28.680 principle, which by the way, super progressives do, they call abortion a sacrament.

00:52:33.940 And to them it is.

00:52:35.800 Okay.

00:52:35.860 But to normal people, but to normal people that, that makes a difference.

00:52:39.900 If like, if they, if they're told, well, this is bad, it's illegal, you have to go on some

00:52:44.900 weird website and order pills.

00:52:46.420 They're going to be less likely to do it.

00:52:48.380 By the way, it just, it just changes how you think about yourself as a country too.

00:52:52.820 If you didn't, if, if, and say in Florida this year, they're not going to have a lot of

00:52:56.320 pride parades.

00:52:57.020 They've canceled it because of the governor's new law, anti, anti grooming law.

00:53:01.620 Well, if next, if next year, they have fewer, it would have happened.

00:53:06.780 What happens if you have Miami and there's no pride parade at all in the, in the month

00:53:10.440 of June?

00:53:11.120 Well, that changes something, doesn't it?

00:53:13.480 I canceled my tickets as soon as I found out you wouldn't be on the, but Bob's appearance

00:53:18.940 at the festival, you know, he was top billing.

00:53:21.180 And now as soon as you, if you can't groom minors, well, you know, what's the point?

00:53:24.960 Right.

00:53:25.480 That was a very eyeopening moment.

00:53:29.420 Yeah.

00:53:29.900 We're not, the leather daddy communities hurt most about this. 1.00

00:53:33.220 There was a weird admission that we have to cancel this because the governor passed a law

00:53:37.900 against grooming children, so pride parades straight out this year. 0.91

00:53:41.360 It was very funny because a couple of like conservatives were like, well, that's ridiculous. 0.74

00:53:45.220 Obviously that's not true.

00:53:46.540 It's like, maybe it just is true.

00:53:48.160 Like maybe, maybe, maybe they're just saying this because it's true guys. 0.66

00:53:52.100 It's like maybe if they're telling you who they are, you can just listen.

00:53:56.800 It's okay.

00:53:57.240 You don't have to, you don't have to rush in.

00:53:59.080 But yeah, that was an amazing moment where all these different organizations like, well,

00:54:03.960 if we can't, if minor, if five-year-olds can't show up and watch us do this stuff, then what's

00:54:08.580 the point, right?

00:54:09.560 Yeah.

00:54:10.020 Speaking of it, you know, I've heard my, uh, two quick things about these, these, these,

00:54:13.800 these sort of issues.

00:54:14.780 So one thing living next to that drive, I drove past an abortion clinic on my way to work 0.98

00:54:18.960 every day when I used to live in Texas.

00:54:21.260 And it sort of changed, it sort of changed my mind about how serious the, the anti-abortion

00:54:27.580 movement was because no matter what the weather was like or anything, these people were there

00:54:34.140 outside the clinic, the, the, that were trying to, you know, make a last minute, a plea.

00:54:40.000 They were there 100% of the time.

00:54:42.820 Like even like when it rains in Texas, it really rains.

00:54:45.960 And I don't know.

00:54:47.420 He just, I just saw how serious these people are.

00:54:50.040 Um, yeah, no, I mean, you have the, the March for life every year and the, it has a massive

00:54:55.460 turnout compared to most of these demonstrations that the media covers, but it gets no coverage

00:55:00.180 for very obvious reasons, right?

00:55:02.460 Like you, you can't let people know that there's any kind of actual, uh, opposition to this

00:55:07.600 kind of thing.

00:55:08.100 But, but the point we are a little off topic here, but the point being is that in a way

00:55:12.420 that perhaps that ruling did not a ruling against the affirmative action, uh, regime kind

00:55:18.920 of would directly again, strike at the heart of the patronage machine for the left in a way

00:55:25.840 that, that, that one, you know, there's some level of patronage there, but it's, it's not

00:55:29.980 quite the same.

00:55:30.800 And so, you know, seeing, seeing a shift in that realm is one that really does.

00:55:36.600 And, and like Merrick said, obviously like the, yes, there are ways around this.

00:55:40.780 People are going to try to avoid it.

00:55:42.680 You can already see a lot of these Ivy league schools shifting themselves away from SAT and

00:55:46.900 ACT scores to like completely just essay B based entry so that you can't prove that it's

00:55:53.060 affirmative action, right?

00:55:54.400 Like, Oh, it's just, you know, this percentage of people happen to produce all the most compelling

00:55:58.740 essays.

00:55:59.140 What do you find compelling stories about minorities that overcome difficulty?

00:56:03.400 So, you know, they've, they've just found another way to implement it, but forcing that

00:56:06.700 change does matter.

00:56:07.660 And I think it's a thing that puts a lot of these, uh, explicitly, uh, you know, identity

00:56:14.160 based payouts, uh, kind of on notice and puts them in a more legally gray area in a way that,

00:56:19.380 uh, that could curtail a lot of this and throw, uh, some of the leftist machine into, uh, out

00:56:24.620 of whack, you know, I've written like two articles, you know, my life, one of the

00:56:29.020 articles was, um, uh, there was some law passed in Oakland or something like that, or San Francisco

00:56:33.880 or something where they were going to, uh, the city was going to collect tax money and

00:56:38.160 pass it out cash money to black people that live there.

00:56:41.720 And there was this huge outrage about how this is illegal. 0.67

00:56:45.340 And I wrote an article saying, no, this is completely legal.

00:56:48.780 You, you, you, you, you don't, you don't know, you don't know how bad it is.

00:56:53.020 You don't know it.

00:56:54.320 This, no, this is in fact very legal and very cool as Trump would say.

00:56:58.740 Um, and yeah, yeah, it is very, very legal.

00:57:03.600 Yes.

00:57:03.880 Yeah.

00:57:04.080 Technically, yes.

00:57:05.580 But, you know, de jure, sure.

00:57:07.580 Maybe, but you know, de facto, yeah, this is a hundred percent happening and no one's

00:57:11.120 going to stop it.

00:57:12.000 Small asterisk about this is that every, there, every Supreme court ruling in favor of civil

00:57:17.440 rights, it is very mealy mouth.

00:57:20.600 They never, they never just sort of puff their chest out and say, hell yeah, civil rights

00:57:25.900 is awesome.

00:57:26.540 And we're going to do this every time civil rights is sort of addressed by the court.

00:57:30.400 And they always say like, well, you know, there's a line that we didn't cross here.

00:57:36.180 You know, we, we could have went further, but we were being very, very, it's, it's so,

00:57:40.180 it's just a, I don't know.

00:57:41.060 It's just a little asterisk.

00:57:43.500 Yeah.

00:57:44.000 The process is supposed to be affected by the administrative state later on.

00:57:47.440 It's the procedural outcomes will, will solve it.

00:57:51.300 They don't, they only have to get the ball rolling.

00:57:53.060 They don't have to outline it all.

00:57:55.480 It's a great point.

00:57:56.180 And there's a case before the Supreme court right now that they could drive a stake through

00:58:00.360 the heart of the administrative state if they wanted to, to, to, to stop them from being

00:58:06.260 able to rule through regulation.

00:58:07.900 If they did that, that would also destroy this entire, this entire program.

00:58:13.480 It only functions if you can, you know, issue these vague rulings that could mean anything

00:58:19.000 and then have the bureaucrats hash it out for 20 years until it becomes something that

00:58:23.560 everybody's like, oh yeah, of course.

00:58:25.240 We just, we've, we've always known that this is how it's always been.

00:58:27.920 Yeah.

00:58:28.360 Yeah.

00:58:28.860 A one, two punch of the Chevron doctrine and, uh, uh, and, uh, the, the affirmative action

00:58:33.940 could, could certainly throw things, uh, for a loop to the left.

00:58:36.960 I'd be, be happy to see them try to escape that one.

00:58:40.000 They'll figure it out.

00:58:40.600 I'm sure.

00:58:40.960 But I have a question for you about, you know, what do you think?

00:58:44.880 Like, so we, we've had a lot of movement in the last few years that was kind of surprising.

00:58:50.580 Do you think it's that trend, you know, doing transsexual experimentation on children was just 1.00

00:58:57.980 a bridge too far for normal people?

00:59:00.160 Do you think that's what's happening?

00:59:02.320 Yeah, I, I think, I really do think it is.

00:59:04.480 I think that, um, it's been pretty easy to sell the right.

00:59:10.140 A lot of these changes, as long as you boil the frog slow enough.

00:59:13.740 Uh, but this one does feel like a, like a bridge that's too far.

00:59:18.280 Like, like once you're across this, something fundamental breaks.

00:59:21.940 Um, and not, not that the, you know, the conservative movement hadn't died by a thousand cuts before

00:59:28.440 this, uh, and not really noticed, but this does feel like, uh, like something that is

00:59:34.000 so desperately unnatural, that is so horrific when you actually understand what it involves.

00:59:38.680 And it's so irreversible and so clearly devastating to the people it's being applied to that.

00:59:45.480 I think, um, you know, there's not a lot of disgust left.

00:59:49.660 There's not a kind of a, a lot of.

00:59:51.940 Are, are we running the stream now?

00:59:56.420 Uh, yeah, I guess it's our show now.

00:59:58.300 Yeah.

00:59:58.520 So what did you ask him?

01:00:00.740 I asked him if he thought it was a bridge too far to, you know, to let people have their children.

01:00:07.060 Let me answer that.

01:00:08.560 So I would say, by the way, now you're tuning in the good voice.

01:00:11.680 Uh, so, uh, and we can say whatever we want.

01:00:16.040 He gets banned from YouTube, not us.

01:00:18.280 So go, go all wild.

01:00:19.600 Uh, so I think, uh, so I, I, I'm less cavalier about that, but I would say that, uh, you know,

01:00:28.260 gay rights, like the thing is there were always gay people to some extent.

01:00:33.520 I mean, that stuff was going on since, since, uh, Leviticus, you know what I'm saying?

01:00:40.240 So now how they, how they sort of, how they sort of behaved and the relationship to the

01:00:46.580 state was kind of what was, what was up for grabs?

01:00:49.360 It's like, um, do you, are they in, are they, they gotta do that in West Hollywood or can

01:00:55.440 they, uh, do it in the pride parade or whatever?

01:00:58.200 Um, well, the big difference is you can't, you know, there's no protection against this.

01:01:04.740 If you're, if you're a rich lib in 1970, you can pay to send your kids to private school.

01:01:10.120 So you don't deal with the, the outcomes that you've created in the public education system.

01:01:15.300 You can move to a gated community.

01:01:16.880 You can just, you can't, you can't stop the school guidance counselor from telling your,

01:01:22.240 your son that he can become your daughter.

01:01:24.220 There's no, there's no escape that's going to happen to anybody.

01:01:26.580 You might not be able to stop the internet.

01:01:30.340 Yeah.

01:01:30.880 That's another good point.

01:01:31.860 None of this, none of the, the specifically the trip.

01:01:34.960 And that's why I think 6 million is just.

01:01:38.360 What?

01:01:42.280 Yeah, no, my, my home internet has gone off.

01:01:44.740 So we're, we're working on some exciting, uh, we would have just kept going immediately.

01:01:51.480 But I thought it was, I thought it was me, but, um, yeah, I mean, I was like, wait a minute.

01:01:56.100 I froze up to, it wasn't just, it wasn't just.

01:01:58.640 Okay.

01:01:59.500 Okay.

01:02:00.160 All right.

01:02:00.720 Well, that said, uh, we probably shouldn't test the limits of my newly returned, uh, internet.

01:02:06.280 So let's go ahead and cut to the questions.

01:02:09.280 The people are here real quick before we do gentlemen, uh, uh, uh, go ahead and let the people

01:02:15.500 know where they can find all of your excellent work.

01:02:18.260 Merrick, you know, the spelling.

01:02:23.800 Patreon.com slash G O O D O L B O Y Z. 1.00

01:02:28.920 The problem with that, with that name rough, roughly every 72 hours, someone else starts

01:02:36.560 a new podcast called the good old boys podcast.

01:02:39.460 I'm not lying.

01:02:40.900 There's like, there's like 20 of them guys got to chase down all those cease and desists,

01:02:45.640 you know, one of them's a Hickler podcast.

01:02:49.320 Oh no.

01:02:51.140 Terrible.

01:02:51.560 Yeah.

01:02:51.860 All right, guys.

01:02:52.540 Well, yeah, make sure everybody's reading, uh, or everyone is checking out, uh, the good

01:02:56.600 old boys, obviously, uh, hilarious, great content.

01:02:59.600 Make sure that you are subscribing to them.

01:03:02.160 Uh, let's go ahead and jump over to our, uh, chat here real quick.

01:03:07.900 Uh, Skylar R for $10.

01:03:10.560 Ryan Dawson made a great documentary on the Biden crime family a couple of years ago called

01:03:14.660 Corn Pops Revenge.

01:03:16.120 Uh, the things that are now coming to light.

01:03:18.200 He knew years ago.

01:03:19.900 Well, I do.

01:03:20.860 I'm not familiar with that, but that does sound like a hilarious title.

01:03:23.940 Thanks for letting us know about that.

01:03:25.880 Uh, Maddie Ice here for $10.

01:03:27.740 Awesome guests, uh, have really enjoyed their X-Files episodes.

01:03:31.260 Hope everyone's having a good week.

01:03:32.960 Yeah, guys, uh, getting into the X-Files business.

01:03:35.120 That was a good move.

01:03:36.440 Yeah.

01:03:37.380 I love it.

01:03:38.400 Yeah.

01:03:38.640 Bog beef's idea. 1.00

01:03:39.580 Yeah.

01:03:39.900 I was like, nah, who's going to listen to us talk about the X-Files?

01:03:43.280 Ryan Mason is, if it's Mark Andreessen into the, into OODA loop, if so type in the chat

01:03:48.600 and I'll, I'll get ahold of him.

01:03:50.940 Yeah.

01:03:51.640 Sorry.

01:03:51.920 All right.

01:03:53.800 TJ, uh, Lukeson for $5.

01:03:56.720 Hey, Oren, love the show.

01:03:58.180 Thank you very much.

01:03:59.020 Uh, question.

01:03:59.660 Are you familiar with Greg, uh, Bonson and the concept of the not the nominee?

01:04:05.880 I'm not sure exactly how to pronounce that.

01:04:07.180 Sorry.

01:04:07.440 So obviously I'm not very familiar.

01:04:09.160 If you are, what do you think about it?

01:04:10.300 Yeah.

01:04:10.460 Sorry, man.

01:04:10.920 I appreciate the super chat, but I am not familiar with that gentleman or, uh, that

01:04:16.320 concept.

01:04:16.960 Uh, but if you have any more information, just let me know, uh, you can kind of at me

01:04:21.160 on Twitter and I'll check it out.

01:04:22.900 Uh, and then, uh, Heath here for $5.

01:04:25.760 I think the left would literally do anything, including a second CW before they let the courts 1.00

01:04:30.580 tear down their machine.

01:04:32.580 Uh, I mean, obviously these are very difficult things for the left to let go.

01:04:37.460 I think you're right that they would do just about anything they could to stop it.

01:04:41.500 However, there are limits.

01:04:42.720 Uh, I think the, the left, uh, don't really have the, the level of elite organization or,

01:04:48.460 uh, ability to kind of, uh, do what you're talking about there.

01:04:51.420 Heath, uh, I think that, uh, some of this breaking down, uh, slowly would throw a pretty

01:04:57.440 serious wrench in their plans, uh, and would affect them in a way I don't think they are

01:05:01.580 really ready to deal with.

01:05:03.180 Uh, I think you're right that, uh, as you know, both American bog beef pointed out, it

01:05:07.220 wouldn't just be a flip switch tomorrow.

01:05:09.180 They wouldn't just get rid of affirmative action.

01:05:10.760 And all of a sudden, like all the problems would be solved.

01:05:13.240 Um, but obviously those, those rulings would be significant.

01:05:16.420 They are real serious political wins.

01:05:19.180 Uh, and I think we should, uh, I think we should still, you know, look at those as positives.

01:05:24.340 We, we, we don't, we don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good here.

01:05:27.600 It's, it's important to be realistic about your chance.

01:05:29.980 It's important to be realistic about what can happen.

01:05:31.880 And, but I think it's also a mistake to say, oh, well, nothing can never work.

01:05:35.220 None of this will ever get solved.

01:05:36.980 And so, you know, we don't want to embrace defeatism while we're still being realistic

01:05:40.880 about, you really, you really don't have to have defeatism on this because this topic

01:05:44.500 is too boring for that kind of thing.

01:05:46.680 There's not, no one's going to throw a Molotov cocktail because of disparate impact.

01:05:52.460 It's just not going to happen.

01:05:53.760 Griggs is gone.

01:05:54.740 Rise up.

01:05:55.240 You know, you should, you can't, it could be said that the, when this first began, they

01:05:59.920 had an entire half of a continent to, to, to work there to, to, to settle.

01:06:04.100 And, you know, the second, when the second round came through, they had the post-war boom,

01:06:08.400 the, the ultimate, the height of, it's hard to imagine if there was a, ever a nation in

01:06:13.620 the history of the world that had as much wealth as a percentage of the, of the world

01:06:17.200 as we did, you know, in the fifties, look at an economy car from 1957, right?

01:06:22.780 They don't have that luxury anymore.

01:06:26.160 They're not dealing with a permanent, like it's easy to do that when you're growing,

01:06:30.180 when you say, okay, we're going to, you're going to share, you know, a slice in the growth

01:06:34.880 that's going to happen the next 10 years.

01:06:37.080 When things are shrinking, that's a totally different story.

01:06:39.080 That's, you're in the prison yard with shivs at that point. 1.00

01:06:42.640 Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right.

01:06:44.200 When you're, when you're not in that boom period, when you're not saying, okay, we'll go

01:06:47.820 along because at least we get a piece of this incredible material increase.

01:06:51.180 When you don't have that miracle of, of permanent progress, then that, that becomes a much more

01:06:55.640 difficult sell.

01:06:56.420 You're in a, you're in a whole different environment.

01:06:58.700 Must be nice to be like Lithuania or something.

01:07:00.640 You know what I mean?

01:07:00.980 Like there's, you're not on some wild ride, you know, things sucked yesterday. 0.98

01:07:04.960 They probably kind of suck today.

01:07:06.980 It's just, you just gotta, you just chill. 0.99

01:07:09.980 You long for the regular mediocrity of Lithuania. 0.99

01:07:13.160 Is that the, yeah.

01:07:14.580 Yeah.

01:07:15.740 Manage your expectations.

01:07:17.660 All right.

01:07:18.160 All right, guys.

01:07:19.180 Well, I appreciate everybody coming by.

01:07:21.160 I appreciate everybody hanging in there through some technical difficulties.

01:07:24.640 Really appreciate all the chats guys.

01:07:26.840 And as always, really appreciate the good old boys.

01:07:29.680 Make sure that you're checking out the work that they do over at the podcast, help them

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01:07:34.920 Make sure you're checking out the Twitters and all that stuff.

01:07:37.160 They deserve it.

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01:07:57.180 Thanks for coming by.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 24, 2023

Did Fox News Just Go Woke？｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz ｜ 5⧸24⧸23

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 24, 2023

Did Fox News Just Go Woke？ ｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz ｜ 5⧸24⧸23

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Did Fox News Just Go Woke？｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz ｜ 5⧸24⧸23