Did Fox News Just Go Woke？ ｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz ｜ 5⧸24⧸23
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Fox News is embracing wokeness, and it s doing so in a big way, according to a new report from the New York Times. But what does that have to do with the Biden crime family? And why is Fox News embracing woke corporate America?
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All right, guys, well, joining me today, we have some of your favorite guests, some of my favorite guests,
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the Southern gentlemen from the good old boys, Merrick and Bogbeef.
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What was the description in the Vanity Fair piece?
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Autodidact is a polite way of saying uneducated, by the way.
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It is, but you should still get it on your tombstone.
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Like, I still think that's a fantastic epitaph, you know.
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You know, the white monster energy drink just sitting on the tombstone next to that description.
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You've won Bud Light and all of a sudden you're, you know, turning in your triathlon medals for a dress.
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Now, Fox News, of course, loves to talk about woke corporations,
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you know, complain about wokeness happening, those kind of things.
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But recently, a report leaked showing that Fox News has a very interesting history of its own, its own employee handbook.
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It has a lot of carve-outs talking about pronouns and those kind of things, a lot of stuff that people would consider woke.
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But, you know, as Bog Beef pointed out on Twitter, this might not just be Fox News embracing wokeness.
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So we're going to get into all that, guys, in just a moment.
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So like I said, a story has shown up here recently.
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There was a leak of an employee handbook from what it looks like.
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And the handbook has outlined a number of things that Fox News wants their employees to remember,
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a number of guidelines that they're required to follow.
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Now, let's not forget, of course, this isn't the first time that people have accused Fox News of going woke.
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the news network is not anywhere approaching right wing on many issues.
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I think a lot of people would have a general problem with some of its coverage.
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But very specifically, when it comes to kind of this new wave of wokeness,
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Fox News has always used the preferred pronouns of people in its articles.
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It has never given the correct pronouns for transgender individuals and instead kind of followed these guidelines when it comes to giving the preferred pronouns of those people.
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The network also did a show in 2022 that seemed to praise a child transition in one of its segments.
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And so this is not the first time that Fox News has come under fire for this.
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And now we see the headlines and, you know, kind of these leaked documents, this leaked handbook.
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And it looks like Fox News has different procedures outlined for workplace transition,
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suggesting that, of course, employees use the preferred pronouns of transitioned employees in the workplace,
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making sure that the transitioned individual feels comfortable going ahead and informing people of their pronouns.
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Educating them is the word used here on how their pronouns should be used and about different parts about their identity.
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And so it looks like there's a lot of language, you know,
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goes further into gender fluidity and all these different things, non-binary.
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And it looks like there's a lot of the type of HR language that we would expect from any woke corporation.
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But, of course, Fox News spends a lot of time talking about how bad it is that corporations are going woke.
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And so a lot of people said, oh, well, Fox News, they've gone woke.
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They've done the exact same thing as these other corporations.
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Do you think that Fox News has suddenly embraced gender ideology here?
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Or is there another explanation as to why they might feel compelled to work this stuff into their employee handbook?
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And, like, so the part of it, so this sort of starts out sounding like a black pill,
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but it's the exact opposite of what's going on.
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So, and, of course, I'm going to do the, you know, the two guys on SportsCenter.
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So anytime they praise, anytime they're going to rip somebody a new a-hole,
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So, like, if he's going to tear LeBron a new a-hole, he's going to come out with a LeBron jersey on, you know?
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And I'm going to, because I'm, this is a kind of a flip here, but.
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I know a boomer down the street that was pissed because his TV, it still flips.
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When he turns on his TV, it starts on Fox, which annoys him.
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Because now, because since they fired Tucker, all he wants to watch is Newsmax.
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I think Newsmax is just more available here than OANN.
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I don't have anything against OANN, but anyways.
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But this is not, this thing about the handbook and stuff, this isn't their fault.
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If you started, if you started the National Organization for Anti-Transgender and this,
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and this organization had more than 500 employees, you'd have the same thing in your handbook.
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Now, I don't have anything to say about, if they're running woke stuff, like on, on their,
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their sort of editorial programs, that's different.
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And, so, for example, I don't know if people noticed, so this one particular issue,
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transgenders got really, really, really, everything seemed like it just flipped like a switch.
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Why did all of a sudden this, this just like go into overdrive?
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Why does every institution now sort of on the band, like all the way on the bandwagon?
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Well, it's because the Supreme Court in 2020, there's a case called Bostock.
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Now, this, and this, this is just like sort of one little, this is just one little,
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uh, uh, one little piece of the civil rights puzzle here.
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And, uh, and so, and here's, let me tell you something.
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It's very, very unlikely that we could ever, we could, that we could do something about this
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with the Senate and the Congress and the president.
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I mean, you know, it's, it's certainly possible, but not anytime soon.
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But let me tell you like this, that's like, this is like the, uh, probably, uh, one of
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And plus if you're a elite theory guy, this is, this is a time to perk up because the only
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way, the way this ends is with the Supreme court, literally people like the federalist
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society could, uh, sort of get this in the heads of the, you know, the, the young jurists
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and actually the Supreme court people, uh, because like, how did, how did we get here?
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So like, why does right now, why, why does the civil rights act mean that like corporations
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Like, why does that, well, that now remember that was never supposed to be, uh, like all
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And the Supreme, like what, like the, the original thing is supposed to be like, you can't get
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fired frivolously from a job for being a wrong color or something like that, which by the
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way, uh, OG, I don't think women or gay or any of that stuff was included, but, um, and
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so I don't think anybody, if you want to roll that back, I mean, you know, that's not going
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And most people would feel like you shouldn't be fired for being the wrong color or something
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That's, that's not really the issue, but what happens is right after the civil rights
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act has passed, they start tacking all, all this stuff.
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It's immediately, you get Griggs versus Duke power, which adds on the most egregious, the
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absolute most egregious part of the civil rights act, which is disparate impact.
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If there's anything that you could, if you want to sort of spread the word, tell people,
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if people ask you, or you just want to talk to them about the wide civil rights is so bad,
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Like I, you know, I spent my whole life listening to these people on Fox, for example, tell me
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that we're just going to actually, why don't we're going to, we're going to get these Democrats
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Well, let me tell you, that's been illegal since like 1965.
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That, that, that's just like, that's illegal to do.
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Like I cannot, like I cannot repeat, we cannot repeat this enough.
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Uh, the current GOP strategy, the current GOP strategy for addressing the issue of race
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and addressing the issue of identity politics in America is literally illegal by the very
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act that Ted Cruz was saying that the GOP was central for supporting on Twitter yesterday.
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Like literally the entire rhetorical approach of the Republican party to this issue has been
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And so pretending that race does not exist is not an option because it literally is, it's
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literally required to be observed by law by every corporation of more than 500 people.
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But, but, but obviously we're going to get deeper into that Merrick.
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Like maybe we can, uh, clarify for some of the people who are confused.
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So why would, why would civil rights law require Fox news to like pay attention to every little
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Like, can't they just ignore it and say this stuff isn't real?
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Why do they, are they infiltrated with Marxists?
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How are they being compelled to comply with this?
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Well, you know, first of all, we, you, you, you, you kind of let Fox off the hook a little
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You're, you're not wrong about this because after 2020 and that, uh, thanks to, thanks
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to Gorsuch, uh, you know, using somebody's, uh, pro or sexual pronouns is part of the, is
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considered like gender discrimination under the civil rights act.
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So yeah, you, you would run into this problem anyway, but you know, Fox is doing their work
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So not only are they, are they having to deal with the federal law, which is bad enough.
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They have even stricter laws in those States, something you could do tomorrow if you were
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Fox news and they won't because, by the way, that was, that was specifically true to this
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Uh, there was one of the, the, the statues that they were following was a New York statute,
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So what you could do tomorrow, if you were Fox news is you could move your Fox news operation
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to Miami and not have to deal with any of that.
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By the way, you know, where boomer max is there in Florida.
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I mean, it's not like you, it's not, you were talking about Mississippi.
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You could say, well, you're not going to get people to go to Mississippi.
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You're not going to be able to get people to go to Miami.
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I think you could probably swing that, but they're not going to because Rupert Murdoch is a shambling,
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And, and I, when it comes to like, are this Fox news woke?
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No, but they, they definitely prefer those people to us.
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They, they're vague, probably vaguely embarrassed about their, uh, viewership, but even Warren's
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covered that in a very recent video about how these corporations like, you know, Target,
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for example, or Bud, Bud Light have a problem where they don't really like their client, their
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clientele, but they have to deal with them because that's where they're getting paid from.
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But, uh, to answer your question, the, the good James Lindsay argument about, oh, well,
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Well, you know, federal law enforcement as we know it came about in eight, let's say 1870,
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I think, which was, it doesn't predate Marxism, but I don't think that Karl Marx really had
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a huge effect on the Republican, uh, Republican government that established this.
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I'm down for that conspiracy theory, honestly, but yeah, the letter to Lincoln was a secret.
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It was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, was it the Manchurian candidate?
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This is the problem is this is like a vulnerable spot for Americans for some reason.
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And it always has been from, you know, going back to the eight to the 19th century is that
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if you say I'm doing this on behalf of like a certain demographic group in, in, in the
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country, who's, who's down on a lot, you can get away with a lot.
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This is pretty much the same playbook they've run over and over again.
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They did it in the 1960s and you know, they do it today.
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If you turn on the news, you know exactly what we're talking about.
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So it has nothing, I'm not going to say it has nothing to do with Marxism because they
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like threw in a lot of Mark Hughes ideas, but that's not the inciting ideology.
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This is, unfortunately, this is a very homegrown idea.
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And, you know, after all the Marxist dinosaurs died off in, in, in, in the 1990s, this didn't
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And it's cope from guys like Lindsay because, you know, the call came from inside the house.
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The people that, who subscribed to his professed ideology, they did this.
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This is, this was a extremely liberal movement.
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Like, did, did Carl Popper consider himself a Marxist, you know?
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I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't matter because like I said, the, you know, the Republicans
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And if you really wanted to say, here was the birth of this, it was then.
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So that's going to be a problem for them forever.
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And it kind of, you kind of wrap this back into the behavior of Fox news.
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Uh, James Lindsay doesn't want to be lumped in with us either.
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And that, like you're going to see his behavior, guys like him, Hanania, they're just going
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to have to do, they're going to have to signal to everybody, look, we're not crazy people.
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We want to, you know, do a little janitorial work so you don't screw up all the great things
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I think there's a wider understanding for some of these mainstream anti-woke liberals, uh,
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that they need to, they need to push back some of these elements.
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You know, sure, they might've needed to make common cause with some of these people, but
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they, they can't actually let them, you know, drive any of the policy because, uh, they,
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they might actually make a change that's meaningful instead of simply, like you said, wearing off
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So the plan can kind of continue forward as, as originally, uh, intended.
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But now that we understand the motivation behind Fox news here, right, we know that this
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is civil rights law, that they have to comply this way.
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That yes, they could avoid a lot of this stuff by moving to a place like Florida, but they
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You know, that that's why they got into the news business was not to lead some kind of
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It's to manage these people for the elite so that they can go ahead and continue their,
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And so I think we understand that that's not going to be, uh, while the Fox news probably
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doesn't have conservative values, the reason it's embracing a lot of this ideology is that
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it has to by law and it doesn't have another option.
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But of course, it's also interesting to look at the ideology of the network.
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Many people have pointed out that I think Fox news internally is not very conservative at
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Some of the hosts are a few of them are, but much of the staff is not obviously Rupert Murdoch
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has some very serious problems with Tucker Carlson and, uh, along with, you know, uh,
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the fact that Dominion may or may not have singled him out as an issue in their lawsuit.
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It's very clear that there's already tensions, uh, created between these two camps, especially
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when it comes to Tucker's willingness to look at things like January 6th, to address issues
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like the transgender movement, uh, to call out the violence of that movement.
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And very importantly, uh, you know, as we saw from kind of his speech right before his
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show was ended, his willingness to address kind of the spiritual nature of these issues.
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And so while Fox might not be 100% ideologically dedicated to progressive wokeness, it's very
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clear that they're not exactly against toning down what has now become almost a full throated,
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uh, resistance by conservatives to what's going on right now.
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And so this can go different, this can go two different ways, right?
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So, uh, for I understand Murdoch got into the conservative news business because there
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It was like, this is just like a flat business deal.
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Like, Oh, there's a market segment, a little bit opening here.
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And so when you have this sort of, when you have a sort of an owner, that's not, that has
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no like ideological commitment to, uh, whatever the thing is.
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Um, the more that they ignore it, the better it is.
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And sometimes these kinds of businesses, like you could have a conservative paper.
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That's just amazing because there's some rich guy that owns it in Hong Kong.
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But the more that that, since that's not the case, the more that Murdoch is involved,
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the worse is, but I just want to do an asterisk on, uh, you did bring up Hanania.
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And like, so I had, I'm, I'm not saying I'm a genius or anything, but I had come to a
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lot of these conclusions myself, but certainly Hanania is, is the main guy for this.
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And the things he wrote definitely pushed, like, uh, I'm sure it made it a bigger thing
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Now he, he's kind of, he's kind of got a little, he's kind of grossed out by people
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on the right politically and stuff like that, but it doesn't matter.
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Uh, and by the way, he, he's literally, I mean, he's, you gotta, you gotta give him
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I don't like, I don't, but he's doing the thing.
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So like two, he's two or three days ago, he gave the speech to the, um, uh, Yale, uh,
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And he laid it out and like, you, you, you can't really argue with any of the things
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Like, obviously you're right that he is saying things no one else is saying, or at least not
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a lot of people who had his audience is saying he gets credit for that.
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Um, even if half of them are warmed over Steve sailor takes who probably a lot, a lot
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more credit in the first place, like Hanania basically, because he gets to say those things
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from kind of the center left, uh, gets away from away with them.
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And even though they're the same things that, you know, guys like sailor had recognized a
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long time ago, but don't get to say on large platforms.
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Uh, but, uh, but sorry, like his incredible disdain for, uh, red America.
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Like, I, like, I, I'm glad he's saying what he's saying.
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Um, but I know someone who's going to stab me in the back, uh, the minute I take one
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So, you know, again, like he can say true things.
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These people are capable of saying true things.
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Um, but I just, I just know better than to trust them in any given foxhole, I guess.
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Like I'll put you on a show trial after the war.
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I mean, look, the news goblin is just going to act this way.
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You don't have to, we don't have to give him any credit.
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You know, if, if, if he wants to say that stuff, the Yale federalist society, that's
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Someone who, who uses a public platform to just attack your people relentlessly.
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And I mean, when I say you're a people, I mean, you know, like literally our people,
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he's just talking about how disgusting that we are.
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And, you know, no, we don't, you don't have to put up with that.
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You don't have to say, well, you got to give him credit.
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I mean, just being objective, uh, he's got this access.
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He's sort of putting this information for these people.
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It's, it's, it's, it's, I don't, I don't have to love him, but, uh, you know,
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Like I said, it's, I'm glad he's saying what he's saying.
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I'm glad when, when these people say things that are true, even if they, you know, they
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can't turn around the next minute and, uh, and crush, you know, like, uh, what was it?
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Like, you know, he'll, he'll say true things from time, from time to time.
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I'm glad when he does that, I just don't expect this guy to ever be on my side.
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I'm, I'm kind of like, I got, I understand the American perspective.
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Maybe I've got, you know, the wrong, the wrong perspective.
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Cause whenever, anytime Iglesias says something that's like a right wing or whatever, you know,
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I'm like, just like, he's just doing that to, you know, get in, uh, you know,
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Hanani is just a less charismatic version of Matt Iglesias, which said, which says
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This, this brings me around to something that you've, I think you threw up a nice little
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thread about it either this morning or yesterday.
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You know, Murdoch's thing is, yeah, he entered this, he entered a market that was underserved
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and he, he, this is pretty much what he did in, in every media venture that he ever got
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The only thing that I think that you could consistently say that Murdoch, like if he had, uh, an ethos
00:25:59.000
And I think he is a per, as a human being, as a person, he is filthy.
00:26:03.720
And he really, according to what people have said, he really got worked up when Tucker Carlson
00:26:09.120
started talking about his, his faith, his Christian religion.
00:26:12.260
And that, that supposedly scared Rupert Murdoch.
00:26:15.980
Now, we obviously can't, you know, allegedly, we can't say that exactly what happened, but
00:26:23.020
And it brings me around to, there was this story yesterday about the, the, the LA Dodgers
00:26:28.960
have invited, disinvited, and then re-invited a drag, group of drag performers who dress up
00:26:37.020
like nuns and our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and do a, like a gay drag show that's themed
00:26:44.080
after, I don't know, the, the, the apostles and, and, and, you know, it's just, just straight
00:26:57.340
Uh, you, you had a good point, you, you, you had a good point, you, you had a good thread,
00:27:00.420
like, so if you're, if you were James Lindsay, can you explain why this is happening?
00:27:05.860
If this is all about, you know, Karl Marx materialism, the secret back door to get class warfare to
00:27:13.260
Why did they have the statue in New York on the courthouse of the, you know, the woman with
00:27:20.360
Why does it always come back to Baphomet and Moloch if, if this is really just secretly
00:27:26.000
a way to, you do, do, do communism, but, but through woke ideology?
00:27:34.000
When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most?
00:27:37.680
When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard?
00:27:42.520
When the barbecue's lit, but there's nothing to grill?
00:27:45.200
When the in-laws decide that, actually, they will stay for dinner?
00:28:07.360
And it's really, Lindsay obviously can't admit this.
00:28:10.240
None of these kind of centrist liberals, you know, these IDW types can admit this.
00:28:14.240
I mean, maybe, you know, obviously like Jordan Peterson, but, but a lot of these people can't
00:28:17.880
admit this because the entire thing about their worldview was about disenchanting the
00:28:23.160
The classical liberal worldview is about the disenchantment of the world.
00:28:30.780
It's about removing, removing these things that are above our rationality or reason, putting
00:28:35.920
them all in kind of this, you know, coat closet and trying to find some kind of minimum viable
00:28:42.140
operating system that can allow us to all like buy and sell widgets from each other.
00:28:46.320
And, you know, that does a lot of impressive things.
00:28:50.580
We've made some really important advancements during that time.
00:28:54.440
But one thing it really makes you do is forget that these things are real and that they remain
00:28:59.620
active and that they will continue to consume your, your world.
00:29:04.320
One of the reasons classical liberalism is so open and so easy to infiltration is it denies
00:29:09.580
a lot of really powerful truths and it just kind of hollows out your civilization's ability
00:29:14.960
to resist any of this evil because it turns it all into like, you know, science that moves
00:29:19.580
everything, all these conflicts of moral vision into the realm of the scientific.
00:29:23.960
And all of a sudden you're sitting in a position where you don't have these like really basic
00:29:28.040
mechanisms that were built into human beings like disgust and shame that were supposed to
00:29:32.840
protect you from this stuff, like these really deep human intuitions that you can't really
00:29:40.000
You can't rationally sort out in any given situation, but are incredibly valuable because
00:29:44.800
they protect you against deep, horrible things that you can't really speak the name of.
00:29:48.940
And all of a sudden you've stripped all that stuff away.
00:29:51.420
And yeah, again, that was really useful for the market.
00:29:54.520
You can sell all kinds of really crazy things when you get rid of that stuff.
00:29:58.760
But eventually it degrades your society in a way that becomes obvious.
00:30:02.760
And so it's really important that this stuff, of course, again, is not spiritual.
00:30:05.700
So I think if you put this question to someone like Lindsay, you'd be like, oh, well, these
00:30:09.500
are, you know, they don't really believe in the devil.
00:30:12.920
This is all ironic, you know, ironic post modern blah, blah, blah, blah, blah to try to break
00:30:22.560
But also there's no such thing as ironic Satanism because that's what Satanism is, right, is
00:30:27.140
the rejection of any understanding of order, understanding of natural hierarchies, the
00:30:33.280
understanding of kind of the laws that have been placed into our universe by something
00:30:38.140
And so, yeah, you can be ironic about your effectuation of that position.
00:30:43.220
But at the end of the day, you're still doing the work.
00:30:46.780
It's so obvious that he has his, you know, he has his own religion where Karl Marx is the
00:30:56.120
I'm like, I don't know, the East India Company or wherever, wherever the classical liberalism
00:31:02.860
comes from, you know, the guys pushing heroin to China and stuff like that.
00:31:10.920
One of the best things I took from your recent series on Dugan is the part where, and I'm
00:31:18.220
paraphrasing, but Dugan's like, all these things are dead.
00:31:22.140
He's like, oh, if you, if you like the Hugo Boss uniforms from fascism, you can just take
00:31:35.800
And I like the main thing I don't get about this because people will say like, well, you're
00:31:41.000
going soft if you don't, if you're like main enemy, isn't like 20th century Russia, like
00:31:53.880
And so let's, let's say you were, let's say these people, right.
00:31:58.140
Like these people were really secretly motivated by Karl Marx and stuff like that.
00:32:06.080
Is that make you better predicting what they're going to do?
00:32:10.720
Like we know, like we have enemies right now and they don't walk around calling themselves
00:32:17.660
So like, you know, we could just, we could just, you know, fight the battles that's in
00:32:23.600
front of us and not the one that's, that's, that's gone.
00:32:28.140
Like, yeah, it's, I, it's hard, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're not being
00:32:32.760
You're being ruled by the civil rights act, like that's what, that's, what's operative.
00:32:37.220
Like that's, what's actually going to take your children.
00:32:39.960
Like Foucault might've argued for, you know, the, the allowance of the kind of stuff that's
00:32:44.320
going to happen to your children at the hands of the state, but it's going to, but the operative
00:32:48.100
legislation that's going to allow the government to do this stuff is the kind of stuff we're
00:32:52.740
Like if you, this thing, like, uh, even if I love the Soviet union, if you're trying
00:32:59.560
to sort of, uh, if you think that Karl Marx tells, gives you like a perfect roadmap to
00:33:05.660
the decisions that Joseph Stalin's going to make, you're wrong.
00:33:10.920
Like he, like he didn't, you know, he didn't become the, you know, the, the God emperor
00:33:14.960
of the Soviet union because, uh, he read the most Karl Marx books that he was just a
00:33:19.360
ruthless thug that took this thing over and as time passes, these things, the, I just
00:33:24.780
love that about, about the Dugan stuff where he, you know, he, he really gets that pushes
00:33:29.460
that, that we, you know, we live, we live in a different world than, uh, the, the sort
00:33:37.260
of the heroic battles of world war II and all that stuff like that.
00:33:40.840
I would say you're, you're, you're part where he has his own religion is correct, but
00:33:46.100
the thing is it's, it's, you know, it's not a religion where Karl Marx is the devil, but
00:33:50.720
it's like an animist religion and, you know, word, word sell crap, words, ideas are imbued
00:33:58.440
with some kind of, uh, really it's like the, so there's like a metaphysical power of these
00:34:03.840
And in the mind of James Lindsay, who is a Reddit atheist, like he's God.
00:34:09.580
And I mean that in a sense, like there's nothing greater than him.
00:34:13.920
He has figured everything out and unfortunately, if this was just like a James Lindsay thing,
00:34:18.440
he would be, uh, uh, you know, a bizarre cult guy and we could ignore him, but we're not.
00:34:23.380
He, that's the religion of the people who've run the country for at least two generations.
00:34:28.880
If you're being, if you're being conservative about it, probably a lot longer than that.
00:34:33.100
And that, that is why, that's the real reason why we always get back to, you know, there's,
00:34:39.220
there's always going to be a Baphomet statue on Epstein Island or whatever.
00:34:43.000
That's why it is because they revel in picturing themselves having the power, like the ultimate
00:34:56.500
And once you, once you've like, this is, there's a good reason why in our religion pride is like
00:35:04.940
And if it's funny, when you think about that, how many people in this country are ostensibly
00:35:10.340
Christians, but I think we don't, we, we don't follow that theology anymore.
00:35:17.420
Pride is not, it's not something that's a deadly sin any longer.
00:35:21.420
It's celebrated literally, literally a whole month.
00:35:24.260
There's going to be, yeah, there's going to be an entire like Roman fest, extended festival
00:35:31.580
I think there, there might've been a verse or two about, about corn hauling too, by the
00:35:39.560
You're talking about the, you're talking about the, the, the, the game you play in the parking
00:35:51.060
Mark, we, you're right that we've spent a lot of time, you know, here talking, mentioning
00:35:54.740
Lindsay, but to be really clear, it's not just him.
00:35:56.760
He's, he's not like, he didn't come up with this.
00:36:04.580
He was just, you know, basically he just agrees with the left on Christianity.
00:36:09.520
He's more worried about Christians than he is about the woke.
00:36:15.160
And, and so, and so at the end of the day, he might not like the excess of wokeness and
00:36:19.340
some people might listen to him because of that, but he's not their friend.
00:36:24.080
He wishes that they would never have power again, that their views would be purged from
00:36:28.600
Like, and he's, and, and he's not particularly coy about that to his credit.
00:36:31.520
Like, it's not like he's hiding this when he's showing up on all these conservative,
00:36:36.800
He just, the people don't care because they want to hear him, you know, lay out the, the
00:36:43.420
But, uh, but, but the point is like people like him are always going to be there.
00:36:48.240
Sam Harris was this before Sam Harris decided, right?
00:36:51.540
Sam Harris was doing exactly this thing, right?
00:36:58.560
Lindsay's on that arc right now, by the way, by the way, 2024 ends, he's going to be Sam
00:37:03.380
He'll be talking about how he doesn't care how many bodies are buried under Biden's house.
00:37:08.040
He'll, he'll be talking about how you have to censor Christians and gulag them all to
00:37:11.980
keep them from, yeah, it's, it's, he's absolutely on that heart.
00:37:15.020
Got to get them weapons of mass destruction too.
00:37:19.480
If you remember the early two thousands, there was this concept that, uh, global war on terror
00:37:25.480
advocates talked about the moderate Muslim, we got to do, we're going to, we're going
00:37:29.240
to have the help of the moderate Muslims to, to do X and Y.
00:37:33.160
And so it's like, uh, uh, a category of person who basically doesn't exist.
00:37:37.700
And that has nothing to do with, with the Islamic faith.
00:37:43.680
It's basically saying we should make like the Unitarian church for Muslims, uh, make a
00:37:48.780
Pope for it and have them tell these guys to do what we want.
00:37:52.300
And James Lindsay is the moderate Muslim of their religion, which is good news for us
00:37:56.360
because it means like they, they hate him because he's an apostate and we hate him because he's
00:38:00.680
not one of, he's not one of us and he never will be.
00:38:02.900
So the good news is people like him, you're not going to have to worry about them.
00:38:07.800
They're always going to end up, you know, like Sam Harris.
00:38:10.620
But the, the, the, you know, the bad news is they're helping, just helping destroy us.
00:38:16.820
They're pushing us to the mark, to the margins in our own country as they have been, you know,
00:38:22.000
if you want to, if you wanted to put a date on it, you could, you could do worse than
00:38:29.120
I loved it to do this because this is, um, this is like one of these things that, uh,
00:38:33.740
cause you know, they always talk about the big science and stuff like that.
00:38:36.620
And, um, one of the things I'll sort of claim is sort of God is incompatible with science
00:38:41.420
and there's, but there's things they don't tell you.
00:38:51.220
I don't think he's a particularly religious man or anything like that, but you pick up
00:38:54.580
something, you listen to him when he, when he talks about his job.
00:38:57.380
So, you know, he's, he, uh, people says I'm addicted to drugs.
00:39:03.860
Doctor, doctor, you know, doctor, they didn't go to their, their priest or whatever.
00:39:08.300
If you like, and if you go to a medical doctor who went to a med school, uh, they are not going
00:39:15.380
to treat you, uh, and by the way, this is in reference to Merrick, you, you made a reference
00:39:24.480
And that, that is such a great sort of, uh, way to describe religion as such.
00:39:29.640
So, uh, if you go to one of these doctors, tell them I need to get off drugs.
00:39:33.920
They will not treat you unless you get into a 12 step program.
00:39:38.940
Now in the 12 step program will not treat you unless like this, this, this form of treatment,
00:39:47.400
it does just physically doesn't work unless you are, unless you are able to, to accept
00:39:54.500
the concept that there's something greater than you because, you know, it's important in
00:39:59.560
this because like literally their mind is lying to them.
00:40:02.860
Like their mind is like, you can take, you can take some more heroin.
00:40:09.720
So someone in that case really needs to understand, like they, they're going to die if they don't
00:40:15.600
understand that their brain is not the most, not the biggest thing in the universe, that
00:40:22.000
there, there is something they have to have it.
00:40:24.100
They have to have a foundation outside themselves.
00:40:28.480
And so these doctors that, uh, go to med school and they're not, they're not a religious doctor.
00:40:41.240
I just feel like that should be more publicized.
00:40:45.100
That's one of the things that always struck me.
00:40:46.580
You guys familiar with Rob, uh, Halford of Judas Priest.
00:40:50.200
Um, but, but, you know, this guy is the lead singer of Judas Priest.
00:40:56.920
He, his, uh, his live in boyfriend had just like blown his own head off.
00:41:01.640
Cause they had just like got trapped in this like downward spiral of drugs or whatever.
00:41:08.100
And as he's trying to recover, the first thing he does when he like gets into an interview
00:41:12.640
is like, yeah, I'm recovering because like, I now understand that like, there's a higher
00:41:18.740
power over me and I have to like, like, like you're saying like this guy who should stand
00:41:23.440
for everything against this, like in order to become clean.
00:41:26.060
The first thing he says is, is acknowledge exactly what you're talking about.
00:41:29.000
When you get into a serious situation, you have to, you, this is, these are like, and
00:41:33.140
so if you're, if you're in a very comfortable situation, maybe you don't have to understand
00:41:37.320
this, but people on the end of the rope, they have to understand this.
00:41:41.100
And I just always, these doctors, they, they don't publicize this, but they, they, they
00:41:48.800
You, you might, you might be listening to this and asking, why are they talking about
00:41:54.340
But the thing is, you know, this, everybody has a religion.
00:41:59.780
I, I, I don't, I'm not, I know I'm not the first person to say this, but like my thing
00:42:03.740
is every education is a religious education, whether you realize it or not.
00:42:07.760
I was, uh, a very good, uh, post, uh, by James Kirkpatrick the other day on Twitter, he was
00:42:14.140
saying, you know, every, every nation has ever existed and ever will has his own state
00:42:20.760
Also not the first person to say that, but it's obvious.
00:42:23.080
And if you, if you tell me that you, you know, I'm not religious, not only are you wrong,
00:42:30.620
That's like, that's the creed of, of the civil religion that runs the United States.
00:42:34.960
And the civil rights movement, not necessarily the civil rights act, but the civil rights
00:42:40.340
movement is their, it's like their, their biblical tale, right?
00:42:49.780
They kind of have the, they kind of have the old Testament and the new Testament.
00:42:52.780
The old Testament was before 64, you know, Abraham Lincoln was Moses, right?
00:42:58.800
And, and they had, they had this, the first act and it moved on to the second act.
00:43:03.420
And it, it, it, it used to be kind of, that used to be a hard, so I was telling you before
00:43:08.440
we came on to, to say the things that we were saying now, if we said it two years ago, it
00:43:13.720
would have been, we would have been written off as crazy, but more and more people have,
00:43:18.540
are coming to accept it because it's so obvious because of the way they behave about these things.
00:43:22.240
They don't treat, they don't treat, you know, your arguments about transsexuals as a difference
00:43:27.240
of opinion or ideology, you know, or, well, this pluralism won't learn to get along.
00:43:31.940
No, they treat you like you have blasphemed against their God because you have, this is,
00:43:40.000
It's absolutely necessary for this to be possible for their religion to work.
00:43:45.980
And as the main thing that their religion offers is the promise of material abundance.
00:43:52.620
That's always been what it, what it has, what it has offered.
00:43:55.140
Now, it also offers you, like all religions do, comfort and gives you meaning in your life.
00:44:01.720
But, because it's a material, it's explicitly materialist religion, part of that is we have
00:44:08.700
And as it gets harder and harder for them to do that, to deliver that because of mistakes
00:44:13.300
that they've made and just the decline of empire in general, they're going to get crazier
00:44:20.400
They have to keep slicing pieces of the electorate, pieces of the country off and pushing them
00:44:26.040
out of the groups that has allowed to have anything and take and literally take your
00:44:34.180
Now, James Lindsay would call this Marxism, but it's not, it's like, it's just not, someone
00:44:38.800
in Sumeria would have completely understood this.
00:44:41.600
Oh, you mean your king is going to go and attack these people and take all their stuff and give
00:44:46.860
Throw it out of their gods, the red statues of your gods.
00:44:50.100
He wasn't, you know, Ingalls wasn't channeling through Marduk, right?
00:44:54.660
This is just something, this is a part of human nature.
00:44:57.040
But James Lindsay, ironically, just like the people that he complains about 24-7, doesn't
00:45:10.580
Uh, another little thing about this is that, um, just a big bonus of if, if we were able
00:45:19.440
to do something about civil rights and I really do think we could, I mean, like the main things
00:45:24.540
that like, it's, it's so much, it would be so much easier.
00:45:28.940
This is like one of the biggest, the, the biggest, hairiest monsters in all politics, but
00:45:34.000
like, uh, because of whatever variety of reasons, specifically that you don't need to pass a
00:45:43.260
Uh, it's one of the, it's one of the more solvable problems.
00:45:46.300
If we were to solve this problem, one of the biggest ways that the Democrat party runs is
00:45:51.080
on these racial, ethnic, and other, uh, patronage schemes and like the ways that they can pay
00:45:59.360
these people and, uh, is because these are the, these are the protected classes and protected
00:46:05.960
classes is definitely something that can be wiped away.
00:46:11.080
The Supreme court could do it tomorrow if they had the will to do it, but they don't because
00:46:15.580
you know, that that's not in the, that's not in the original law.
00:46:19.920
And you'll notice that like, um, there's no protected group that votes Republican.
00:46:29.240
If you've got a group that votes 80% Democrat, they're, they're protected class.
00:46:35.560
There are, they say protected class doesn't mean.
00:46:40.480
Well, I'm wondering what, who are you referencing?
00:46:45.940
No, he just said that aren't that, that are protected class.
00:46:51.320
Well, we'll go, go, but it's not a protected class.
00:46:53.280
Go put a case for them in the same way that white and male is not a protected class.
00:47:01.340
You're saying de facto, they're not protected, but right, right, right.
00:47:04.680
But by the, the law says they are, the law says that Christians and white men, they're
00:47:15.180
I mean, so that, that path, people have thought about that.
00:47:18.160
Like what if we just use civil rights for white people, that, that is a broken path.
00:47:24.220
That, that is just not going to work in my opinion.
00:47:31.040
This is this, this is this, you're, it's exactly what you said a second ago.
00:47:34.260
It's a decision that the justices could make tomorrow.
00:47:37.340
If they chose to, you could, you could, and they might be doing that with the affirmative
00:47:42.720
action ruling that they're, that's going to come down soon.
00:47:45.600
You can say this discriminates against white people.
00:47:51.380
The law, the, the text of the civil rights act, in theory, offers you the same protections
00:47:57.000
that offers people who vote for the democratic party.
00:47:59.960
I know in practice that doesn't happen, but my point is that's a way you could do this
00:48:05.580
You can, you could tomorrow change the way these things are actually enforced and that
00:48:11.160
the court has that power, but this is the same court in 2020 that made transsexuals officially
00:48:21.480
Gorsuch is a, maybe if, if Trump would have appointed different people to the court, you
00:48:27.480
could, we could have this conversation, but he didn't.
00:48:32.320
I think the affirmative action decision will be the most important crux of this.
00:48:35.960
If we're obviously, you know, the, the road decision was shocking.
00:48:42.400
I think a lot of people, uh, couldn't believe the court took an action like that.
00:48:47.340
So before that, I would have certainly said like, Oh, Supreme court's looking at affirmative
00:48:52.880
After the, you know, you, you catch the unicorns or whatever.
00:48:56.140
Uh, but, but now it does seem like something that might possibly really get addressed and
00:49:01.320
the manner in which they address it, whether it's a narrow ruling or whether it's something
00:49:05.580
that really does kind of shift the ground under kind of our, our current regime and the civil
00:49:13.780
I think that'll be a really interesting, uh, you know, we can sit around and kind of pontificate
00:49:18.380
on which way this thing's going to go or how action could best be taken.
00:49:21.380
But I think that ruling is going to be kind of a seismic shift if it, if it takes any action
00:49:28.880
And you know, the thing about that is the ruling, they're already looking for ways around
00:49:34.220
this and I see somebody in chat kind of getting ahead of it here, which is the problem is
00:49:39.720
you can't take a system that was designed to attack a group of people, let's say white
00:49:46.220
Christians, you know, who founding stock of the United States or whatever, you can't
00:49:49.860
take a system designed to punish them and take stuff from them and turn that around.
00:49:56.100
And they could very easily, they can very easily do that when it comes to, yeah, you can
00:50:02.000
make affirmative action against the law in a text of the law, but Harvard can still, can
00:50:14.060
How, like, by the way, you know, you can, you can get rid of affirmative action, uh, using
00:50:20.880
Like, uh, I don't know if you've seen, you know what Texas does, Texas, uh, they, all the
00:50:25.320
schools have to guarantee that the, uh, if you make like an AV honor roll, you have to
00:50:31.980
And that's so many people that basically it gets rid of, uh, affirmative action.
00:50:37.480
That's, that's, that's like, so you could do that in reverse by the way, but like, uh,
00:50:43.600
Like, so these sort of changes to Supreme court law would have huge effects.
00:50:48.780
Now, if the Supreme court ruling was just on affirmative action, I mean, eh, you know,
00:50:55.240
I mean, by the way, you know, this is to some extent it's true for, uh, for, for abortion.
00:51:00.840
I mean, so, you know, they're, they still got these pills, they could drive you to States
00:51:04.720
and stuff, but the, the sort of big fundamental changes that would happen from, uh, the, uh,
00:51:12.240
getting rid of things like protected classes, disparate impact and stuff would be huge.
00:51:17.580
I mean, so, you know, Supreme court makes rulings about guns and stuff that people don't like
00:51:24.700
And I know people don't like this kind of analysis, but like, even if let's say the,
00:51:29.940
the Dobbs decision changed, not like if every person, like abortion is illegal in Texas now.
00:51:37.240
So if every person in Texas who would have gotten abortion instead of orders pills off
00:51:41.400
of Amazon or whatever, and they still have the abortion, the doc, that, that ruling still
00:51:46.240
matters because you have gone from something that is not as legal and celebrated by the,
00:51:53.160
the state government, whether it was or not, you live next to an abortion clinic in Texas.
00:51:59.520
You see, you saw this every day you go from that to, okay, this is something you're going
00:52:05.000
to do in secret through the mail that makes a difference.
00:52:09.900
It, once you, as Oran alluded to earlier about things like shame and disgust, once you, you
00:52:16.560
know, put the, the label on something that makes it low status and gross, there's really
00:52:23.440
no coming back from that, especially unless, unless you have some kind of overriding moral
00:52:28.680
principle, which by the way, super progressives do, they call abortion a sacrament.
00:52:35.860
But to normal people, but to normal people that, that makes a difference.
00:52:39.900
If like, if they, if they're told, well, this is bad, it's illegal, you have to go on some
00:52:48.380
By the way, it just, it just changes how you think about yourself as a country too.
00:52:52.820
If you didn't, if, if, and say in Florida this year, they're not going to have a lot of
00:52:57.020
They've canceled it because of the governor's new law, anti, anti grooming law.
00:53:01.620
Well, if next, if next year, they have fewer, it would have happened.
00:53:06.780
What happens if you have Miami and there's no pride parade at all in the, in the month
00:53:13.480
I canceled my tickets as soon as I found out you wouldn't be on the, but Bob's appearance
00:53:21.180
And now as soon as you, if you can't groom minors, well, you know, what's the point?
00:53:29.900
We're not, the leather daddy communities hurt most about this.
00:53:33.220
There was a weird admission that we have to cancel this because the governor passed a law
00:53:37.900
against grooming children, so pride parades straight out this year.
00:53:41.360
It was very funny because a couple of like conservatives were like, well, that's ridiculous.
00:53:48.160
Like maybe, maybe, maybe they're just saying this because it's true guys.
00:53:52.100
It's like maybe if they're telling you who they are, you can just listen.
00:53:59.080
But yeah, that was an amazing moment where all these different organizations like, well,
00:54:03.960
if we can't, if minor, if five-year-olds can't show up and watch us do this stuff, then what's
00:54:10.020
Speaking of it, you know, I've heard my, uh, two quick things about these, these, these,
00:54:14.780
So one thing living next to that drive, I drove past an abortion clinic on my way to work
00:54:21.260
And it sort of changed, it sort of changed my mind about how serious the, the anti-abortion
00:54:27.580
movement was because no matter what the weather was like or anything, these people were there
00:54:34.140
outside the clinic, the, the, that were trying to, you know, make a last minute, a plea.
00:54:42.820
Like even like when it rains in Texas, it really rains.
00:54:47.420
He just, I just saw how serious these people are.
00:54:50.040
Um, yeah, no, I mean, you have the, the March for life every year and the, it has a massive
00:54:55.460
turnout compared to most of these demonstrations that the media covers, but it gets no coverage
00:55:02.460
Like you, you can't let people know that there's any kind of actual, uh, opposition to this
00:55:08.100
But, but the point we are a little off topic here, but the point being is that in a way
00:55:12.420
that perhaps that ruling did not a ruling against the affirmative action, uh, regime kind
00:55:18.920
of would directly again, strike at the heart of the patronage machine for the left in a way
00:55:25.840
that, that, that one, you know, there's some level of patronage there, but it's, it's not
00:55:30.800
And so, you know, seeing, seeing a shift in that realm is one that really does.
00:55:36.600
And, and like Merrick said, obviously like the, yes, there are ways around this.
00:55:42.680
You can already see a lot of these Ivy league schools shifting themselves away from SAT and
00:55:46.900
ACT scores to like completely just essay B based entry so that you can't prove that it's
00:55:54.400
Like, Oh, it's just, you know, this percentage of people happen to produce all the most compelling
00:55:59.140
What do you find compelling stories about minorities that overcome difficulty?
00:56:03.400
So, you know, they've, they've just found another way to implement it, but forcing that
00:56:07.660
And I think it's a thing that puts a lot of these, uh, explicitly, uh, you know, identity
00:56:14.160
based payouts, uh, kind of on notice and puts them in a more legally gray area in a way that,
00:56:19.380
uh, that could curtail a lot of this and throw, uh, some of the leftist machine into, uh, out
00:56:24.620
of whack, you know, I've written like two articles, you know, my life, one of the
00:56:29.020
articles was, um, uh, there was some law passed in Oakland or something like that, or San Francisco
00:56:33.880
or something where they were going to, uh, the city was going to collect tax money and
00:56:38.160
pass it out cash money to black people that live there.
00:56:41.720
And there was this huge outrage about how this is illegal.
00:56:45.340
And I wrote an article saying, no, this is completely legal.
00:56:48.780
You, you, you, you, you don't, you don't know, you don't know how bad it is.
00:56:54.320
This, no, this is in fact very legal and very cool as Trump would say.
00:57:07.580
Maybe, but you know, de facto, yeah, this is a hundred percent happening and no one's
00:57:12.000
Small asterisk about this is that every, there, every Supreme court ruling in favor of civil
00:57:20.600
They never, they never just sort of puff their chest out and say, hell yeah, civil rights
00:57:26.540
And we're going to do this every time civil rights is sort of addressed by the court.
00:57:30.400
And they always say like, well, you know, there's a line that we didn't cross here.
00:57:36.180
You know, we, we could have went further, but we were being very, very, it's, it's so,
00:57:44.000
The process is supposed to be affected by the administrative state later on.
00:57:47.440
It's the procedural outcomes will, will solve it.
00:57:51.300
They don't, they only have to get the ball rolling.
00:57:56.180
And there's a case before the Supreme court right now that they could drive a stake through
00:58:00.360
the heart of the administrative state if they wanted to, to, to, to stop them from being
00:58:07.900
If they did that, that would also destroy this entire, this entire program.
00:58:13.480
It only functions if you can, you know, issue these vague rulings that could mean anything
00:58:19.000
and then have the bureaucrats hash it out for 20 years until it becomes something that
00:58:25.240
We just, we've, we've always known that this is how it's always been.
00:58:28.860
A one, two punch of the Chevron doctrine and, uh, uh, and, uh, the, the affirmative action
00:58:33.940
could, could certainly throw things, uh, for a loop to the left.
00:58:36.960
I'd be, be happy to see them try to escape that one.
00:58:40.960
But I have a question for you about, you know, what do you think?
00:58:44.880
Like, so we, we've had a lot of movement in the last few years that was kind of surprising.
00:58:50.580
Do you think it's that trend, you know, doing transsexual experimentation on children was just
00:59:04.480
I think that, um, it's been pretty easy to sell the right.
00:59:10.140
A lot of these changes, as long as you boil the frog slow enough.
00:59:13.740
Uh, but this one does feel like a, like a bridge that's too far.
00:59:18.280
Like, like once you're across this, something fundamental breaks.
00:59:21.940
Um, and not, not that the, you know, the conservative movement hadn't died by a thousand cuts before
00:59:28.440
this, uh, and not really noticed, but this does feel like, uh, like something that is
00:59:34.000
so desperately unnatural, that is so horrific when you actually understand what it involves.
00:59:38.680
And it's so irreversible and so clearly devastating to the people it's being applied to that.
00:59:45.480
I think, um, you know, there's not a lot of disgust left.
01:00:00.740
I asked him if he thought it was a bridge too far to, you know, to let people have their children.
01:00:08.560
So I would say, by the way, now you're tuning in the good voice.
01:00:19.600
Uh, so I think, uh, so I, I, I'm less cavalier about that, but I would say that, uh, you know,
01:00:28.260
gay rights, like the thing is there were always gay people to some extent.
01:00:33.520
I mean, that stuff was going on since, since, uh, Leviticus, you know what I'm saying?
01:00:40.240
So now how they, how they sort of, how they sort of behaved and the relationship to the
01:00:46.580
state was kind of what was, what was up for grabs?
01:00:49.360
It's like, um, do you, are they in, are they, they gotta do that in West Hollywood or can
01:00:55.440
they, uh, do it in the pride parade or whatever?
01:00:58.200
Um, well, the big difference is you can't, you know, there's no protection against this.
01:01:04.740
If you're, if you're a rich lib in 1970, you can pay to send your kids to private school.
01:01:10.120
So you don't deal with the, the outcomes that you've created in the public education system.
01:01:16.880
You can just, you can't, you can't stop the school guidance counselor from telling your,
01:01:24.220
There's no, there's no escape that's going to happen to anybody.
01:01:31.860
None of this, none of the, the specifically the trip.
01:01:44.740
So we're, we're working on some exciting, uh, we would have just kept going immediately.
01:01:51.480
But I thought it was, I thought it was me, but, um, yeah, I mean, I was like, wait a minute.
01:02:00.720
Well, that said, uh, we probably shouldn't test the limits of my newly returned, uh, internet.
01:02:09.280
The people are here real quick before we do gentlemen, uh, uh, uh, go ahead and let the people
01:02:15.500
know where they can find all of your excellent work.
01:02:28.920
The problem with that, with that name rough, roughly every 72 hours, someone else starts
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a new podcast called the good old boys podcast.
01:02:40.900
There's like, there's like 20 of them guys got to chase down all those cease and desists,
01:02:52.540
Well, yeah, make sure everybody's reading, uh, or everyone is checking out, uh, the good
01:02:56.600
old boys, obviously, uh, hilarious, great content.
01:03:02.160
Uh, let's go ahead and jump over to our, uh, chat here real quick.
01:03:10.560
Ryan Dawson made a great documentary on the Biden crime family a couple of years ago called
01:03:20.860
I'm not familiar with that, but that does sound like a hilarious title.
01:03:27.740
Awesome guests, uh, have really enjoyed their X-Files episodes.
01:03:32.960
Yeah, guys, uh, getting into the X-Files business.
01:03:39.900
I was like, nah, who's going to listen to us talk about the X-Files?
01:03:43.280
Ryan Mason is, if it's Mark Andreessen into the, into OODA loop, if so type in the chat
01:03:59.660
Are you familiar with Greg, uh, Bonson and the concept of the not the nominee?
01:04:10.920
I appreciate the super chat, but I am not familiar with that gentleman or, uh, that
01:04:16.960
Uh, but if you have any more information, just let me know, uh, you can kind of at me
01:04:25.760
I think the left would literally do anything, including a second CW before they let the courts
01:04:32.580
Uh, I mean, obviously these are very difficult things for the left to let go.
01:04:37.460
I think you're right that they would do just about anything they could to stop it.
01:04:42.720
Uh, I think the, the left, uh, don't really have the, the level of elite organization or,
01:04:48.460
uh, ability to kind of, uh, do what you're talking about there.
01:04:51.420
Heath, uh, I think that, uh, some of this breaking down, uh, slowly would throw a pretty
01:04:57.440
serious wrench in their plans, uh, and would affect them in a way I don't think they are
01:05:03.180
Uh, I think you're right that, uh, as you know, both American bog beef pointed out, it
01:05:09.180
They wouldn't just get rid of affirmative action.
01:05:10.760
And all of a sudden, like all the problems would be solved.
01:05:13.240
Um, but obviously those, those rulings would be significant.
01:05:19.180
Uh, and I think we should, uh, I think we should still, you know, look at those as positives.
01:05:24.340
We, we, we don't, we don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good here.
01:05:27.600
It's, it's important to be realistic about your chance.
01:05:29.980
It's important to be realistic about what can happen.
01:05:31.880
And, but I think it's also a mistake to say, oh, well, nothing can never work.
01:05:36.980
And so, you know, we don't want to embrace defeatism while we're still being realistic
01:05:40.880
about, you really, you really don't have to have defeatism on this because this topic
01:05:46.680
There's not, no one's going to throw a Molotov cocktail because of disparate impact.
01:05:55.240
You know, you should, you can't, it could be said that the, when this first began, they
01:05:59.920
had an entire half of a continent to, to, to work there to, to, to settle.
01:06:04.100
And, you know, the second, when the second round came through, they had the post-war boom,
01:06:08.400
the, the ultimate, the height of, it's hard to imagine if there was a, ever a nation in
01:06:13.620
the history of the world that had as much wealth as a percentage of the, of the world
01:06:17.200
as we did, you know, in the fifties, look at an economy car from 1957, right?
01:06:26.160
They're not dealing with a permanent, like it's easy to do that when you're growing,
01:06:30.180
when you say, okay, we're going to, you're going to share, you know, a slice in the growth
01:06:37.080
When things are shrinking, that's a totally different story.
01:06:39.080
That's, you're in the prison yard with shivs at that point.
01:06:44.200
When you're, when you're not in that boom period, when you're not saying, okay, we'll go
01:06:47.820
along because at least we get a piece of this incredible material increase.
01:06:51.180
When you don't have that miracle of, of permanent progress, then that, that becomes a much more
01:06:56.420
You're in a, you're in a whole different environment.
01:06:58.700
Must be nice to be like Lithuania or something.
01:07:00.980
Like there's, you're not on some wild ride, you know, things sucked yesterday.
01:07:09.980
You long for the regular mediocrity of Lithuania.
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