The Auron MacIntyre Show - Do Sydney Sweeney's Jeans Make Her a Nazi？｜ Guest： J. Burden

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00:01:36.520 All right, so we've had a pair of interesting stories in the news.

00:01:40.600 There's one a little funny, one very serious, but both touching on the same topic, the amount of anti-white hate that has continued to perpetuate itself inside our society,

00:01:52.900 and the amount of acceptability people feel with the freedom they feel with which they can express this hatred towards white Americans.

00:02:01.520 Joining me today to discuss this topic is one of our favorites, Jay Burden.

00:02:05.480 Thank you so much for coming on, man.

00:02:07.260 Yeah, thank you so much, Oren.

00:02:08.220 I really appreciate the opportunity to be here to discuss only the most serious news.

00:02:13.420 Yes, yes.

00:02:13.880 I know that we're all going to enjoy discussing Sidney Sweeney for a few minutes here, but it's not really about the celebrity gossip or celebrity drama.

00:02:25.220 Obviously, this is more of a match that lit a fire, a wider issue that I think is uncovered by the nature of the response.

00:02:33.860 But before we explain the response, I guess we should explain the ad in case there are some people who are not familiar.

00:02:40.360 So Sidney Sweeney is an actress.

00:02:42.420 I'll be honest.

00:02:43.280 I don't think I've seen anything with her in it.

00:02:46.900 I'm trying to think of anything I've actually watched where she was an actress.

00:02:52.100 But obviously, she's got some level of popularity in the culture, and she's an attractive woman.

00:02:58.560 So they put her in a number of advertisements.

00:03:00.600 Most recently, she was in an advertisement for American Eagle jeans.

00:03:05.780 Now, I don't know about you, but I remember American Eagle as kind of like the Amicrombian Fitch competitor when I was younger, back when I could shop at stores that had those type of names and not look like some weird old man standing around the corner wondering, you know, what these shirts were about.

00:03:22.100 But they did an ad with her or a series of ads, I believe, with her.

00:03:28.500 And the theme was Sidney Sweeney has good jeans.

00:03:32.720 And, you know, it's just a basic attractive woman putting on jeans type scenario.

00:03:36.740 There's nothing particularly raucous about it.

00:03:39.900 It's not even really that racy compared to like, you remember those Hardee's ads where they were just putting, you know, women with giant fake breasts and bikinis and having them drip burger juice on themselves?

00:03:50.060 You know, comparatively very tame with the sexuality.

00:03:54.460 But the thing that people focused on quite a bit to up their outrage was the pun placed inside this ad, which is that obviously she's wearing a pair of blue jeans with a J.

00:04:05.500 But they were when they say that she has good jeans, they might be alluding to the fact that she was born with good genetics.

00:04:13.220 And that is a reason why she is so attractive, something that pretty much anyone would say, you know, as a joke or an offhand comment over someone who is attractive.

00:04:23.620 If someone said, you know, if you did it with like a Henry Cavill for women, you know, oh, he's got good jeans.

00:04:29.720 I don't think there would have been any kind of blink.

00:04:32.160 But instead, we got a bunch of stories about how this is a deeply disturbing Nazi dog whistle.

00:04:38.340 MSNBC was talking about the deep, you know, mid-century German undertones that existed just because someone put an attractive white woman in this advertisement.

00:04:48.920 Now, again, she has been in other advertisements before, but there has been a very a otherwise a lack of a lot of white people in advertisements.

00:04:58.700 Many people have noticed this, that it's very common for you to see a very low proportionate representation of white Americans in the advertisements that are going out to America at this point.

00:05:10.320 And if you do see them, they're usually like the bad guy or, you know, it's a they're part of a family in which they're the only white person for some reason.

00:05:17.560 And these are the advertisers you usually see.

00:05:19.980 So do you think that this advertisement backlash was simply due to the context of the word jeans or is there something deeper going on here?

00:05:28.640 Yeah, so this may surprise the viewers, but I'm going to go ahead on a limb and say are neither you or I are deeply embedded into the world of fashion.

00:05:37.940 However, both of us are married.

00:05:41.500 And so by merely having a woman around, you do pick up on these things.

00:05:44.780 Right. And all through sort of the extreme excess of woke, the kind of first Trump presidency going through the Biden years, there was this sort of reveling in a polite person would say nontraditional beauty, a more objective, I would say ugliness in the fashion world.

00:06:05.860 So, for instance, you know, in many cases, a lot of brands were using extremely overweight models, models with just bizarre looking features, sort of pigment disorders and extreme focus on quote unquote diversity.

00:06:22.200 Right. Which basically means everyone except for white people.

00:06:27.180 And there was sort of an element of virtue signaling in that.

00:06:31.300 Right. That was a way to mark yourself out as a socially progressive brand that you could be associated with.

00:06:37.100 But that sort of built up a culture, right?

00:06:41.780 It sort of built up an expectation that that would be the case and buried in that, not particularly deeply, was an outright hostility towards white people.

00:06:52.400 Right. They are bad and gross and ugly and we don't want to see them.

00:06:55.500 Right. And, you know, to sort of paraphrase possibly your most important work yet, the sign tapping meme, it really isn't that complicated.

00:07:04.440 They just hate white people.

00:07:06.380 And again, the reaction to this, the pun is innocuous.

00:07:10.720 Right. It's a stupid pun.

00:07:11.940 And commenting on the genetics of celebrities is nothing new.

00:07:16.840 Right. If you've ever listened to a UFC broadcast before, you've heard Joe Rogan say the phrase animal genetics.

00:07:23.420 Right. For a particularly savage or capable fighter.

00:07:25.800 This is not some sort of eugenic point.

00:07:28.280 Right. Everyone recognizes this.

00:07:30.440 And to be honest, if this ad were, you know, had come out 15 years ago, nobody would have noticed.

00:07:37.140 It's not particularly interesting or relevant.

00:07:39.520 But because of the sort of anti-white hatred that is quite popular in both the fashion industry and among the chattering class, it became this sort of great litmus test.

00:07:52.840 Right. Do you look at this and say, like, what's the issue?

00:07:55.080 This is just a random model.

00:07:57.420 Right. One of dozens for a random brand that, you know, neither of which are particularly controversial in and of themselves.

00:08:04.860 But when shown through that sort of prism of genuine progressive bigotry, it becomes this major issue.

00:08:13.460 And to your point, I think a relevant part of this is that while there certainly is a generalized sort of distaste and hatred for white people generally, obviously due to, shall we say, prominent mid-century leaders, particularly blue eyes and blonde hair are extra demonized.

00:08:33.400 Right. Like that is the, quote unquote, the evilest and whitest combination.

00:08:37.600 Right. Heavy scare quotes on both of those.

00:08:39.220 And so I think the combination of all three, right, a slight reference towards genetics, the fact that this is an attractive, non-diverse model, and then the, you know, the sort of blue eyed blonde hair features, it kicked off this giant outpouring.

00:08:56.400 Right. And what was particularly interesting to me, because look, again, these sort of stories really never come across my metaphorical desk.

00:09:04.080 I'm not deeply embedded in the world of fashion, but what I saw in reaction was insane vitriol, right?

00:09:10.140 Saying things that if you swapped around, shall we say, the popular nouns and descriptors, you would be banned off of every social media and lose your job for saying that about another group.

00:09:19.400 But, you know, it is socially acceptable to target the, you know, technical majority population of this country with extreme bigotry, right?

00:09:31.380 Things that, you know, I don't think you should say about anyone, let alone, right, due to something so innocuous.

00:09:38.160 Yeah, we can see here the MSNBC headline, you know, Sydney Sweeney's ad shows an unbridled cultural shift towards whiteness, as if that's the worst thing imaginable, right?

00:09:49.700 That if the culture hadn't in any way acknowledged the general culture that existed pretty much everywhere in this country until a few decades ago, advertisements are always mirror of society, and sometimes they reflect its ugly, what they reflect is ugly and startling.

00:10:07.040 So, obviously, the NBC anchor here, the writer feels more than comfortable declaring white people to be ugly and startling, right?

00:10:15.940 There's no hesitation here.

00:10:17.380 And so, as you say, this is the kind of language that would absolutely get you destroyed if you put anywhere else.

00:10:24.100 If the roles were reversed, you know, this would be the worst possible outcome for pretty much anybody.

00:10:29.240 And yet, this is totally acceptable.

00:10:31.360 This person's in no danger of losing their job.

00:10:33.440 And I want you to understand, this is what we talk about when we say that this stuff has not been put away, right?

00:10:39.520 That ultimately, even if the emphasis is not always there, these cultural flare-ups are just going to keep happening along this woke axis.

00:10:47.460 And these people are going to continue to retain their jobs, even when they say something like that.

00:10:52.800 And that's how you know the culture hasn't actually shifted.

00:10:55.900 Are we moving in a direction?

00:10:57.960 Yeah.

00:10:58.160 Are we moving in some direction?

00:10:59.580 Yes.

00:10:59.820 But have we actually won this victory?

00:11:02.320 Have we overcome this problem?

00:11:03.780 Not in the slightest, because people still feel more than capable of making these kind of statements without any kind of repercussions.

00:11:10.200 And either we can all make these kind of comments or none of us can make these comments.

00:11:15.220 This continued state where you can only make them about white people and about no one else is absolutely insane.

00:11:21.520 It's radio Rwanda stuff.

00:11:22.840 It's going to get a lot of people killed.

00:11:24.200 And we'll talk about in a minute where it almost did.

00:11:28.060 And these are the kind of attacks that happen all the time.

00:11:30.640 However, I want to stay with the Sydney Sweeney ad for a little bit, because I think it uncovers a couple different layers of the problem we're looking at.

00:11:39.560 Right.

00:11:39.740 As you say, the ad itself, whatever, who cares?

00:11:42.360 You know, this is not something that you and I are spending a deep amount of time trying to understand at any intense level.

00:11:48.360 However, the first thing is that the general ugliness that has been presented in fashion, as you were pointing out, the fact that fashion became obsessed with inverting the beauty hierarchy.

00:12:00.420 Now, we've always had this to some extent with fashion.

00:12:03.620 Right.

00:12:03.760 They always had a extremely beautiful woman, but they would dress her up in something very ugly or they would put something very strange.

00:12:09.920 Right.

00:12:10.260 They would try to make her look very alien or in some cases like push like trash bags on.

00:12:14.780 Right.

00:12:14.980 So there's always some element of trying to subvert the beauty expectation.

00:12:19.940 However, it was always in the context of the model still being a beautiful person.

00:12:24.720 Maybe maybe you were challenging the idea that you had to adorn that beautiful person in different garb or a specific style.

00:12:32.080 But the the the individual was always selected because they were still someone who was very attractive.

00:12:38.820 And then, you know, I walked into Target for the first time in several years, a few months ago.

00:12:44.080 And I was very struck by the fact that every you know, they have the little models everywhere, you know, pictures on on the ends of kiosks and those kind of things with different people wearing the clothes.

00:12:55.900 And I was struck that everyone was so ugly, like just incredibly ugly.

00:13:01.260 It was everyone was fat.

00:13:02.860 Everyone was disabled.

00:13:04.280 Everyone had, you know, skin issues and were missing teeth.

00:13:08.980 Like it was just crazy at how obsessed it was like there was there were no traditionally attractive people as any of the representative models inside society.

00:13:20.560 Now, there's a safe way, I think, to understand that when we only focus on the most outrageous and particular beauty standards, you can create a hyper reality where people do have an unhealthy perception of what attractive looks like.

00:13:35.060 And and that kind of thing.

00:13:36.880 I don't think that, you know, some people will scoff to that discussion, but I don't.

00:13:39.980 I think there is a level at which we obscure what true beauty is by airbrushing the, you know, the top point zero zero one percent of attractive people and putting them on everything and making that the only thing that people understand is attractive.

00:13:53.720 I get that.

00:13:54.580 However, we went entirely the other direction and we're just putting people who are obviously very unattractive.

00:14:00.820 No one would want to purchase anything that they were wearing.

00:14:03.660 And that became the standard.

00:14:04.800 And it was very clear because they were sending a message about the standards of our society.

00:14:10.480 Right.

00:14:10.700 And one of the and very often the standards of our society were cited as, you know, white and heteronormative and all these things.

00:14:18.320 Right.

00:14:18.460 It's the laundry list of different things that they complain about.

00:14:22.580 Our culture is oriented towards these traditions and these understandings and these frames.

00:14:27.200 And so your representation of beauty is is inherently flawed because it's white in nature.

00:14:32.460 And so the way to subvert it is to put the ugliest person on there or put the darkest person on there, not feature anyone who you might think of as an attractive European.

00:14:41.220 So that's the first thing they did that obviously, you know, transgressed the paradigm.

00:14:46.940 But there also seems to have been a general hatred for Sidney Sweeney as a person before this.

00:14:53.320 And again, I don't know much about her.

00:14:56.160 Right.

00:14:56.360 Like, I can't I don't think I can cite you a single thing she's in.

00:14:59.780 But there I have seen a lot of the hate online and some of it seems to be mainly that she doesn't make her entire life about like hating that.

00:15:08.260 Right.

00:15:08.720 Like her her persona is not.

00:15:10.780 Well, I'm going to cut my hair as short as possible and dye it pink and tell you that you're a horrific man for noticing that I'm attractive.

00:15:17.820 She seems to like the attention.

00:15:19.400 She seems to welcome the attention.

00:15:21.000 That might be its own critique of her as a person.

00:15:23.500 I don't know.

00:15:23.980 But it's certainly not it's certainly in for many people refreshing just to have someone presented to them that doesn't hate them for noticing they're attractive.

00:15:34.340 Right.

00:15:34.480 Like that.

00:15:35.000 That's OK.

00:15:35.860 And then finally, the obsession with pointing out that people inherit to any degree positive traits from their ancestors is a very strange thing, because, of course, we've fallen into this highly atheistic, highly secular culture obsessed with.

00:15:54.500 I love science.

00:15:55.380 I love hecking science.

00:15:56.500 Right.

00:15:56.700 Like you, young earth creationist, I'm going to own you.

00:15:59.200 Like that was a good amount of my like teenage years and early adult years was having to hear constantly about how stupid Christianity was and how idiotic it was, the idea that you would censor any kind of science.

00:16:11.080 And yet the minute you point out like a basic truth about genetics that you pass on the most fit characteristics, you know, through this kind of selection, this kind of mating habit, and that this produces results that are better often because of this process.

00:16:29.400 This is somehow heresy, right?

00:16:30.980 Like this is the deepest, darkest thing you could ever say, even though it is the most basic implications of the science that these people worship.

00:16:37.740 And that's really when you recognize it has nothing to do with the science or secularity.

00:16:42.640 This is all just its own religion.

00:16:44.560 And Hitler is just Satan.

00:16:46.260 And Nazis are, you know, demons.

00:16:49.060 And all white people are descended from demons.

00:16:51.840 And therefore, any acknowledgement that a white person might have a trait that could be carried forward that is in some way desirable just evokes all of this imagery.

00:17:01.060 And that's all blasphemy.

00:17:02.320 And that's what we see just vomited onto these pages.

00:17:05.920 Yeah.

00:17:06.440 So there are several things.

00:17:07.740 There, uh, it's kind of funny how in a weird way, the difference between the sort of like post-war consensus religion you just described and the nation of Islam, very, very small, right?

00:17:21.760 That these are, that these people are these sort of like distinct, inherently evil genetic population.

00:17:27.600 And society at large has rightly decided that the nation of Islam, as shown off in the funniest Louis Theroux documentary ever, are ridiculous.

00:17:36.200 And yet inherently they believe the same thing, right?

00:17:38.900 It's just the nation of Islam is, is slightly more direct about it.

00:17:42.140 Black Hebrew Israelites, not the same group, but you see a sort of similar dynamic as well.

00:17:45.880 But anyway, one of the interesting things when we talk about the left, right?

00:17:51.480 What is the left?

00:17:53.340 And certainly we can say that the left is about, you know, equality or that the left is entropy, as, you know, great thinkers have said.

00:17:59.540 But there's a large part of it that leftism is basically just sour grapes, right?

00:18:04.460 It is revenge of the nerds.

00:18:06.060 It's, I am mad because I am not due to, you know, genetics or, you know, a personality defect or just sheer laziness.

00:18:14.020 I am not high status and I want to be.

00:18:16.420 So I will tear down the people ahead of me.

00:18:18.880 And I think that that's a large part of what you see with this attack on beauty, right?

00:18:25.220 It's, well, beauty makes me feel bad because I'm not like that.

00:18:28.600 And look, like there is a certain part of physical attractiveness, which is a genetic lottery.

00:18:32.520 You know, I, that simply is, but, you know, going the kind of like, you know, hair, like going to the extreme of saying, well, I feel bad.

00:18:43.000 I never want to feel bad.

00:18:44.460 And so everything must be ugly.

00:18:46.280 You know, everything around me must be horrible.

00:18:48.880 Right.

00:18:49.240 It's literally ruling over a pile of cultural ashes.

00:18:53.260 And so much of the reaction I see to this, part of it is the, you know, the political stuff.

00:18:58.060 Part of it is the anti-white part, which is linked.

00:19:00.380 And I think another part of it is simply don't remind me that I'm not perfect.

00:19:05.520 You know, don't remind me that I am comparatively lower status.

00:19:10.120 And I think that that sort of extreme resentment, right, is something that we see across all avenues of leftist thought.

00:19:18.040 I hate the rich because I am not rich.

00:19:20.800 I hate the attractive because I am ugly.

00:19:23.180 And you can sort of go down the list and look like they certainly church it up more than that.

00:19:28.520 But at the base of it, a lot of it is, as Spandrel would say, right, biological Leninism.

00:19:33.500 If we lived in a hierarchy, right, if we lived in a, what one might call a meritocracy, I know I would be low on the totem pole.

00:19:43.800 So I have to reorganize society.

00:19:45.920 I have to exert an immense amount of pressure on culture to make sure that ugly people rise to the top of, you know, XYZ industry.

00:19:54.320 It's basically that, you know, it is that sheer resentment, you know, what Nietzsche would have called it, right, played at large.

00:20:02.180 And again, this story doesn't really matter, right?

00:20:05.240 We will probably all have forgotten about this specific instance in two or three months.

00:20:09.360 But it is a useful sort of like chrysalis, right?

00:20:13.360 You see, or crystal rather, you see that trend exemplified in one headline almost perfectly.

00:20:20.000 And it's sort of one of those things where it's like if I were, if I were creating a story to make my enemies look bad, it would be pretty close to this.

00:20:27.500 And they did it themselves.

00:20:28.900 Well, that's the beautiful thing that the left has done over and over again, right?

00:20:32.600 Whether it be the Dylan Mulvaney cell phones, the obsession with defending George Floyd or the immigrant who, you know, the illegal immigrant gangbanger who is beating his wife but desperately had to be returned from illegal immigration.

00:20:48.440 They can't help but, like, just step into this stuff, right?

00:20:51.220 They're, it's not just about political power for them.

00:20:55.320 It's certainly about political power, but it's not just.

00:20:57.580 They really are ideologically possessed at a level that drives them to make terrible decisions.

00:21:02.440 Because, like you said, objectively, if you brought this to anyone who is doing, like, any level of political strategy and said, I'm running with this as my way to attack the right.

00:21:11.700 We're going to attack Sidney Sweeney for being a Nazi because she showed up in a blue jeans ad.

00:21:15.720 They'd be like, get out of here.

00:21:16.980 You're a complete idiot.

00:21:18.060 Like, you know, you're fired.

00:21:20.060 Like, never advise me again, right?

00:21:21.540 But the left is so ideologically obsessed with this that ultimately they keep stepping on these rakes over and over again.

00:21:29.060 You know, and it's great because they've been talking over and over about how critical it is to win back young men.

00:21:35.100 Young men were losing young men, especially young white men.

00:21:38.420 How do we get them back in the party?

00:21:40.160 How do we make them a part of what they're doing?

00:21:42.400 You remember the really very, very, very overweight Latina woman who talked about how much she loved frat guys?

00:21:49.280 Yes, I do.

00:21:49.640 And she, like, immediately got fired after because she, like, took $20 million and just flushed it down the toilet to try to figure this out.

00:21:58.180 But the minute that an attractive woman is on TV, you know, it's, oh, my God, you know, it's the end of the world.

00:22:05.260 You have to you have to end this.

00:22:06.460 There's a very funny comic of, you know, some teenage boy looking at a Sidney Sweeney ad and all the online personalities calling this a Nazi advertisement.

00:22:16.140 And he walks over to his dad.

00:22:17.480 He's like, I think I'm a Nazi.

00:22:18.720 You know, like, you know, it's one of those things where obviously, you know, it's tongue in cheek.

00:22:25.580 But if you're if you if you were a recruiter for a mid century political ideology, creating this type of advertisement would would be your best friend creating this entire backlash.

00:22:36.560 You couldn't have cooked up a better one for this.

00:22:39.340 But it really shows that the, you know, the left is completely oblivious to this.

00:22:44.060 Right. Because we ran all these sports illustrated issues where we put like, you know, trans guys on the, you know, the cover and everything in swimsuits.

00:22:52.140 And there's this humiliation ritual of forcing trans, you know, actors into all of these roles where they don't they shouldn't be someone.

00:23:02.500 You know, the people were flipping out because I guess there was a Zelda movie coming out and they passed on a trans actor as being Zelda in the movie.

00:23:11.380 And so, you know, there's just all this backlash against why can't we just force the ugliest non women into roles where attractive women traditionally existed.

00:23:22.380 And also, I can't figure out why men don't want to vote for my party anymore.

00:23:27.220 I've made finding any moderately attractive woman interesting, literally the deepest sin in the world.

00:23:34.100 It's fascist. It's Nazi.

00:23:36.200 You know, all this stuff.

00:23:37.420 And for some reason, men don't want to be involved in my political movement.

00:23:41.200 It's an incredible mystery, to be sure.

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00:23:58.500 Well, and to your point, and I understand you're sort of referencing the quote unquote cigar slam, right?

00:24:05.420 Is woke going away?

00:24:07.240 And I think one of the interesting parts, and I'm not trying to put words in your mouth here about your argument, is that effectively the left can't control themselves.

00:24:16.440 Because again, right, if you were in this Machiavellian power broker sitting at the top of left core, right, you know, sort of tweaking all the knobs and setting out a course, this is an issue you wouldn't touch.

00:24:29.020 Why would you?

00:24:29.840 You know, it does nothing other than-

00:24:31.180 And to be clear, these people exist in the party, right?

00:24:33.300 Like, I'm sure that if Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi was really sitting down to do any of this, they'd be like, get that trash out of here, right?

00:24:40.740 But they're not in charge anymore.

00:24:42.600 And that's the important point.

00:24:44.400 Well, exactly.

00:24:45.580 And there's a degree to which they almost can't stop themselves from making poor decisions on a game theory perspective.

00:24:53.120 Because again, right, like, young men are an incredible force in society.

00:24:58.140 They provide a great deal of energy, a great deal of capability.

00:25:01.260 They are ultimately the future of any organization.

00:25:04.500 And, you know, and I'm glad you brought up that woman, you know, re-engaging men for the DNC.

00:25:10.300 Because that was sort of the perfect clash, right?

00:25:13.800 Between on one hand, you have people saying, hey, we need to solve this issue.

00:25:17.560 We can't simply designate, you know, young men an enemy group.

00:25:22.500 So you see that inclination.

00:25:24.260 Well, how is it executed, right?

00:25:26.200 They get this sort of like absurd stereotype, right?

00:25:29.040 You can imagine them popping out of a, you know, like a stone-toss comic or something like that.

00:25:33.040 It's this kind of like cartoonish, you know, feminist leftist, you know, going out to college parties, right?

00:25:39.440 To try to get the guys to vote for, I don't know, Pete Buttigieg in 2028.

00:25:43.620 And you're like, okay, this has proven to me you have, you are unable to help yourselves.

00:25:49.660 You're unable to sort of pull back from what you really want to do.

00:25:54.740 You're unable to stop saying the quiet part out loud, which I mean, as we get to the next story, it is very clear.

00:26:02.500 They are unable to keep the quiet part quiet.

00:26:05.600 And, you know, there's been a concerted effort from some inside the conservative movement to keep the quiet part very quiet, right?

00:26:15.680 It's, you've heard the woke right and their dangerous ideas of pointing out the obvious fact that actually progressivism might have some Marxist elements.

00:26:25.260 It certainly has got Marxist theory as its explanation as to why it's doing what it's doing academically.

00:26:34.500 But in practice, it is purely like resentment against white Christians in the United States.

00:26:40.740 It's very clearly what it is on a regular basis.

00:26:43.200 And, you know, we've, we've been guys like you and me have been saying, look, we're, we hate Marxists.

00:26:48.480 We hate communists.

00:26:49.380 It's evil.

00:26:50.200 You know, you know, helicopters.

00:26:52.360 Yeah, I'm with you.

00:26:53.160 Okay.

00:26:53.740 But it's important to recognize it's not just an economics program.

00:26:57.760 Okay.

00:26:58.560 That, that race communism in race communism, the race is a true animating feature.

00:27:04.200 It's not just, oh, I wish I could take your stuff.

00:27:06.900 It is.

00:27:07.360 They're going to take your stuff too, but they're going to take your stuff because you're white.

00:27:10.620 Right.

00:27:11.260 And this is, this is really critical because when you look at the violence, when you look

00:27:15.540 at the hatred, when you look at the exclusion from employment, when you look at, you know,

00:27:19.980 just the constant ways in which there is accepted bigotry in the United States, it can't just

00:27:25.460 be Marxism.

00:27:26.480 It can't be Marxism by itself.

00:27:28.780 It is animated by something different.

00:27:30.740 It is a deeper and more tribal understanding of human collectivity and the way that it operates.

00:27:36.160 And if you don't get that, if you, if you don't understand that under that Marxism or

00:27:41.240 maybe on top of it, however, you want to envision your ideological stack involved very deeply

00:27:46.580 in this is that pure and adulterated race hatred for one particular group that we have

00:27:52.880 said is, well, more or less a fair game for the culture.

00:27:56.860 Right.

00:27:57.140 And people are tired of it.

00:27:58.580 And if you don't address that specifically, if you just keep saying, oh, well, it's all

00:28:01.920 Marxist dogma, then you're missing the forest for the trees here.

00:28:05.460 And more importantly, people are going to go to someone who notices the truth.

00:28:09.840 Right.

00:28:10.320 Like people are going to keep watching innocent white people get killed or beat up.

00:28:15.360 They're going to see their, you know, relatives of European descent, not able to get into college,

00:28:21.820 not able to get jobs.

00:28:22.880 They're going to see the open hatred declared for them in the media, and they're going to

00:28:26.980 say, well, if these conservatives won't talk about it, if they're just going to pretend

00:28:30.820 it's all, you know, economic communism, I'm going to go to listen to someone who will address

00:28:35.980 these issues because they have to be addressed.

00:28:38.780 And, you know, to be fair, as much as there has been this attempt at containment inside the

00:28:45.220 right on this inside the conservative movement, it's very clearly failing.

00:28:49.540 I'm seeing people who used to try to use the phrase woke right or try to where even they

00:28:54.800 are declaring stuff like this blatantly anti-white, right?

00:28:58.000 People who would not use the phrase before are using it now.

00:29:01.200 And I think that's good.

00:29:02.860 I think as silly as the story is, it is good that that is development we're seeing because

00:29:07.720 this opens up people to grasp that, OK, this is a frame in which you must recognize this

00:29:13.760 issue and you must address this issue.

00:29:15.740 The communism is bad.

00:29:16.960 The Marxism is bad.

00:29:17.800 I'm with you.

00:29:18.420 But if we do not understand this aspect and we do not very swiftly and forcefully address

00:29:24.240 the way in which white people are treated in the United States by both its institutions

00:29:28.740 and its media and a percentage of its population, things are going to get really bad.

00:29:33.860 And if you have any interest in something approaching moderately successful race relations

00:29:39.780 in the United States, you have to end the open season on white people.

00:29:43.700 It's simply unacceptable.

00:29:44.580 Well, certainly, right?

00:29:47.400 Because look, having a multicultural society is sort of playing the game on hard mode, right?

00:29:53.600 It is more difficult than a homogenous population, but it can be done, right?

00:29:59.140 There are ways to do that.

00:30:00.800 And we've seen different empires figure out ways to do it.

00:30:04.960 But this sort of asymmetric game where one group is basically allowed to be denigrated and spoken

00:30:13.840 about in some cases, right, exterminate terms, that builds resentment very naturally, right?

00:30:20.540 People look around and they say, like, why are you treating me like this?

00:30:23.480 Why am I this sort of designated enemy class?

00:30:26.600 And that is not conducive to a healthy society long term.

00:30:30.580 And this is a problem that can be fixed, right?

00:30:32.560 This is not an insurmountable issue.

00:30:34.400 But within the current paradigm where there is this sort of one-way aggression officially

00:30:39.720 tolerated and in many cases written into law, that is not a stable situation.

00:30:44.020 And so when people attack the woke right, they'll say things like, oh, you are, you know, ginning

00:30:51.420 up hatred, you're fomenting division.

00:30:53.600 And that's not the case.

00:30:54.980 What the woke right, quote unquote, is doing is recognizing this division is here.

00:31:00.360 It has existed for 70 years at this point.

00:31:04.320 And it is a wedge.

00:31:06.260 It is being driven into the country.

00:31:08.260 And in order to extricate that, you need to make a change.

00:31:12.020 And, you know, it's sort of a truism, right, in self-help or a 12-step program.

00:31:16.600 But the first step is recognizing you have a problem and merely continuing to stick your

00:31:21.520 head in the sand and say, well, this is gross and icky and I don't want to talk about it.

00:31:25.000 It may make you feel better, but it doesn't actually address the core of the issue, right?

00:31:30.340 People aren't just making these stories up to get clicks on the internet, right?

00:31:34.260 They aren't simply doing this because you get paid an extra thousand bucks on the end of

00:31:38.380 the month if you, you know, if you incite, you know, an extra 3% racial division, right?

00:31:44.500 They're doing it because this is a widely recognized issue that is not being addressed

00:31:49.560 by, shall we say, certain figures in the conservative movement.

00:31:53.360 Yeah, and I want to make it clear, you know, we're not adopting, you know, this frame.

00:31:59.760 We're not going to be picking up the new speak or calling ourselves anything approaching

00:32:03.400 the woke right.

00:32:04.140 It's entirely a term of slander.

00:32:06.720 But you're right to say that the people who have been slandered in this way have been

00:32:10.100 trying to point out something that's critical.

00:32:11.980 And no matter how much you try to hide your head in the sand, this is only going to get

00:32:16.160 worse for you if you continue to do so.

00:32:18.800 And like I said, I think more and more of the right is recognizing this, that they can't

00:32:23.380 continue to bottle this up.

00:32:25.440 I understand the concern.

00:32:26.840 Like, they don't want everything racialized.

00:32:28.540 They don't want some race war in America.

00:32:30.640 I'm with you.

00:32:31.220 I'm not looking for that either.

00:32:33.180 But the way to avoid that is to address this issue now.

00:32:35.980 If you're unwilling to address this issue and point it out and speak the truth about it

00:32:40.000 now, that will come and it will come in a much worse form than what you are worried

00:32:45.220 about in the current scenario.

00:32:46.640 You have to address this and you have to acknowledge even the frame around it.

00:32:52.300 It is racial.

00:32:53.380 It's racial to its core.

00:32:54.980 There is no way to avoid this aspect of the situation.

00:32:58.840 And carefully dancing around that language, pretending it doesn't exist, calling anybody

00:33:03.560 who isn't interested in ignoring that fact some kind of Marxist or some kind of the horseshoe

00:33:10.880 theory, the right and the left are exactly the same.

00:33:12.860 That does you nothing unless your entire goal is to play containment.

00:33:16.400 And even then, you're going to fail in that aspect.

00:33:18.960 But that said, enough of the Sidney Sweeney stuff.

00:33:21.560 Like we said, that was far more the lighthearted manifestation of this.

00:33:25.420 But now we're going to look at what this actually leads to.

00:33:28.640 Right.

00:33:28.780 So I'm going to I'm going to try to show this.

00:33:32.180 I don't know where I don't know where YouTube is on, you know, kind of putting this stuff

00:33:38.660 on.

00:33:39.080 So hopefully we're not going to get any kind of strikes here.

00:33:41.740 But I haven't tried like any of this in a while.

00:33:43.520 So we'll give it a shot.

00:33:44.500 So here is the video in question of what occurred.

00:33:52.100 This is the Cincinnati Jazz Festival.

00:33:54.260 Now, as I understand, it used to be a jazz festival.

00:33:56.520 But since no one really listens to jazz anymore and most African-Americans have moved on to

00:34:01.640 R&B and hip hop and other stuff like that, it's mainly a celebration of that stuff and

00:34:06.940 not not jazz itself.

00:34:10.740 But here is the video of the confrontation.

00:34:23.980 Now, obviously, this is horrible.

00:34:25.760 And I do want to provide the context here.

00:34:27.780 I could I could not immediately find the the other context I wanted for this clip.

00:34:33.080 But there is a version of this clip in which the the woman in question is coming in to

00:34:39.720 break up that fight because we can see there was some kind of shoving match, some kind of

00:34:45.160 yelling match between a old white gentleman and a black gentleman in that crowd.

00:34:51.120 And that occurred with kind of like a slap from the the white guy.

00:34:57.040 Again, they were kind of shoving.

00:34:58.520 So it's a it's one of those natural escalation situations.

00:35:01.320 I don't know that, you know, obviously, without hearing what was being said, I can't infer.

00:35:07.660 I can guess.

00:35:08.620 But, you know, I don't know for sure who actually is to blame for this really going into a more

00:35:14.440 physical direction.

00:35:16.240 That said, obviously, things quickly get beyond just a personal confrontation.

00:35:21.200 I understand, you know, if you're a man and another man shoves you, you have the right

00:35:25.500 to defend yourself.

00:35:26.340 I'm not going to stand here and pretend like two grown men settling some kind of confrontation

00:35:32.880 through minimal violence is unacceptable.

00:35:35.960 You know, if if if a guy smacks you, no matter what his color, you have a right to in some

00:35:42.160 way, you know, reciprocate, you know, to to a certain level.

00:35:46.360 But that's not what happens.

00:35:47.680 What happens instead is this turns into a full on beatdown.

00:35:51.100 Instead, the black guy eventually, you know, immediately throws hands in a much more aggressive

00:35:56.660 way.

00:35:57.520 Multiple people jump in on his side because the crowd is predominantly black.

00:36:01.740 It quickly becomes like a prison yard fight, right?

00:36:04.460 You don't know who started what or what is the actual impetus.

00:36:08.720 You just know that your side is your race.

00:36:11.500 That's all that that that the crowd seems to know immediately.

00:36:14.100 And it is a large crowd of mostly black men, but some black women.

00:36:18.440 They beat up the the couple that the white man there.

00:36:23.360 They also beat up a couple of other white guys who seem to get involved in trying to break

00:36:27.020 up the fight.

00:36:27.820 And most horrendously, the one that most people are focusing on is the one we watch, which

00:36:31.860 was the woman who obviously was trying to get in there.

00:36:34.460 Maybe she knew someone we don't know at this time, but she was trying to pull people away

00:36:39.360 from the fight and she gets knocked out in what is the most brutal scene there.

00:36:44.140 And I think, you know, people who have been in this situation know if you've ever been

00:36:48.980 at large festivals of this kind.

00:36:51.720 Unfortunately, there is an unspoken rule that there is like a racial divide in many of these

00:36:55.940 scenarios.

00:36:56.480 I distinctly remember, you know, in Tampa, where I went to college, they have like the

00:37:01.480 Gasparilla Festival for the pirate ships that came in.

00:37:04.920 They celebrate the fact that Buccaneers landed in Tampa Bay.

00:37:07.860 And, you know, they have a bunch of people walking around these festivals.

00:37:12.740 And it's well known that if you're a white guy and you see a crowd of 30, 40 black guys

00:37:18.460 standing there, don't walk towards that crowd because they will suck you in and you will

00:37:22.220 get beat down.

00:37:22.980 And we watched it.

00:37:23.700 There were several white guys who did not know this rule and made the mistake of like

00:37:27.560 just walking by by themselves instead of, you know, walking in a group at some distance.

00:37:33.700 And they just got ripped off the street and immediately beat down.

00:37:36.900 And so you have this really horrific scene.

00:37:40.500 Again, I understand some level of self-defense being justifiable, but this clearly went very

00:37:45.820 beyond self-defense and quickly became a full on race riot, basically.

00:37:49.900 And that is why people are reacting the way that they did.

00:37:52.340 Yeah.

00:37:53.340 Yeah.

00:37:54.340 So there are several things there.

00:37:56.260 Someone who's been to a few music festivals, similar interaction.

00:38:02.800 This is just sort of assumed knowledge, right?

00:38:05.480 Especially at bigger festivals with sort of mixed act, right?

00:38:08.820 Where you'll have like a hip hop show on one stage and then like, you know, sad guitar music

00:38:13.960 on the other.

00:38:14.740 You know, it's very clearly like, even if it's not stated explicitly, like there is an understanding

00:38:20.480 there, I think one of the other relevant features here is obviously the savage way that this woman

00:38:28.480 was beaten and also the reaction from the crowd, right?

00:38:31.640 Which is basically to stand around and laugh and look like scuffles happen.

00:38:36.760 But this is not simply, you know, two guys getting into a dust up outside of a bar, right?

00:38:42.340 As you said, this has much more in common with like brutal prison violence where you have,

00:38:46.980 you know, multiple people jumping someone.

00:38:49.420 And again, sadly, this is not a new thing, right?

00:38:53.840 Perhaps the most egregious example is Reginald Denny, right?

00:38:58.220 Who was beaten within an inch of his life during the Rodney King writhe, right?

00:39:02.940 Literally nothing to do with anything, just a guy driving a truck.

00:39:05.960 But he got pulled out and, you know, smashed into the dirt.

00:39:10.240 And again, the coverage, which you're, you know, about to play a clip up here of this

00:39:15.860 issue is, shall we say, dramatically different than to quote a good old conservative byline

00:39:22.300 if the roles were reversed, right?

00:39:24.600 Very clearly, there is an element of racial bias in this.

00:39:29.260 This is not treated as if it were, you know, a group of guys at a, you know, a trailer park,

00:39:34.860 just, you know, the white trash family throwing it down in the Bob Evans parking lot, right?

00:39:39.100 This is being handled very, very specifically.

00:39:42.520 And it's not unreasonable to look at this and say, why are they biased?

00:39:48.540 Why are they acting with, you know, racial favoritism?

00:39:52.640 And what seems to be a pretty egregious example of racialized violence,

00:39:57.840 which I have been assured for my entire life is the most serious issue in our society, right?

00:40:04.020 This is the point of America to get rid of this.

00:40:07.580 And if that's true, you can probably hear my sarcasm dripping through the mic.

00:40:11.960 If that's true, why are these men not being, you know, railroaded, right?

00:40:18.000 Why are they not seeing the sort of, you know, just excoriation in the press or in the court

00:40:23.220 system that we see when the roles are reversed?

00:40:25.540 Well, it's actually a pretty easy answer.

00:40:28.540 They just don't like white people.

00:40:30.320 It's really not that complicated.

00:40:32.220 And obviously this, this, uh, sorry, I've caught myself there.

00:40:36.600 This, this rather Rubenesque police chief is, uh, gonna put that very clearly.

00:40:43.420 Yeah.

00:40:44.000 So before we play the clip real quick, I just want to acknowledge a few critical points you

00:40:47.800 made there.

00:40:48.380 First, you know, this incident is sadly very common, right?

00:40:53.680 It's caught on, uh, on a camera and because it has caught the national news attention, they

00:41:00.520 have actually made five arrests in this case.

00:41:02.460 But if we're honest, we know that this would barely make the front page or would make, barely

00:41:08.560 make page 15 of a local newspaper in most instances.

00:41:11.780 And when we look, you know, most violence to be clear, statistically is in, is, is between

00:41:18.040 the same race, right?

00:41:19.600 Black people kill or fight black people, white people kill or fight white people.

00:41:25.240 Majority of the time it is within your own community that violence happens.

00:41:29.860 However, when violence does cross, when it does become interracial, the ratio of black

00:41:36.540 violence against whites to white violence against blacks is massive.

00:41:40.760 Black people commit, like, exponentially more violence against white Americans than vice

00:41:48.160 versa.

00:41:48.500 Not, again, to say that white Americans do not commit violence against black people, but

00:41:52.440 it's not even close comparatively when you look at the numbers and the percentages.

00:41:56.240 Even though that's the case, we know that if there was a mob of, you know, five white

00:42:01.360 guys beating up some black guy somewhere who wandered into the wrong neighborhood, that

00:42:05.900 would be the only thing we ever heard about.

00:42:07.180 In fact, we know this is true because I'm sure you remember the Ahmaud Arbery case.

00:42:10.940 Where before, even like Matt, you know, Matt Walsh, God bless him, has gotten, been on

00:42:15.580 a far more based streak recently.

00:42:17.800 But even then, he was talking about how, oh, well, this is very clearly a lynching.

00:42:22.620 And, you know, this is, you know, we have to stop this kind of racial violence in the

00:42:26.240 United States.

00:42:26.660 So even the conservative commentariat will immediately assume that there is some kind

00:42:31.300 of white on black violence that exists.

00:42:33.520 Now, again, this is not a blank check.

00:42:34.880 Obviously, you should not be running around beating people up based on their race in any

00:42:38.660 situation.

00:42:39.600 However, it's very clear that when that does occur, it is disproportionately carried out

00:42:44.580 by black Americans against white Americans.

00:42:46.860 And that is not covered in any way is not news.

00:42:49.440 So the fact that Sidney Sweeney was by far more important in this conversation, like her

00:42:56.540 terrible crime of trans dressing against black, you know, transvestite individuals who expect

00:43:02.880 to get all the modeling jobs.

00:43:04.400 Like the fact that that was a far bigger news story than this violence says it all, right?

00:43:10.460 Like that's how little we even register this type of violence against a white woman in the

00:43:16.580 United States at this point.

00:43:17.960 Now, in addition to that, we're going to hear from this police chief, but you guys already

00:43:22.180 know where this is going.

00:43:27.260 Another topic I want to cover real quick.

00:43:32.220 Social media and journalism.

00:43:34.400 And the role it plays in this incident.

00:43:36.640 And yes, guys, that's you.

00:43:39.280 That is you.

00:43:42.480 Just that the school marm lecture before we even get to anything else is just, I'm talking

00:43:47.380 to you.

00:43:48.220 Did you leave your blocks out for someone else to clean up?

00:43:52.360 You know, that's the attitude we're getting.

00:43:54.760 Also, even contained in this, and I've seen this clip and it still makes me mad.

00:43:59.720 But the fact that she is visibly much more annoyed that people are talking about this

00:44:06.500 than that it occurred in the first place, it boggles the mind, right?

00:44:13.480 That this alleged law enforcement officer, right?

00:44:17.400 Someone who is there to protect the physical safety of their citizenry.

00:44:20.920 And it's like, well, why are you talking about it?

00:44:22.960 Why are you upset about it?

00:44:24.900 Right?

00:44:25.120 That is in her mind, right?

00:44:27.220 The real issue at play here that people are talking about a crime instead of the fact

00:44:32.560 that the crime happened in the first place.

00:44:34.260 You know, Jay, let me ask you this.

00:44:38.100 It's a little bit of a rabbit trail, but I think it's worth speculating on here.

00:44:42.100 A lot of people point out that, you know, it's white women.

00:44:45.340 White women are what's creating the woke problem, right?

00:44:47.900 And I always have a little bit of a recoil on that because it's like, well, have you seen

00:44:52.320 the voting numbers for black women or for Asian women or for Jewish women, like comparatively?

00:44:58.520 Like white women actually voted for Trump this time around.

00:45:00.860 Now, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of, you know, crazy liberal white women out there,

00:45:05.440 but I do have a problem with just characterizing them as like the core demographic that is

00:45:10.360 driving all of this.

00:45:11.340 That said, you have to notice that many white women are very passionate about social justice,

00:45:17.960 as our good friend Bogbeef famously said once.

00:45:21.440 And the fact that this woman whose job, in theory, is to protect citizens in, you know,

00:45:29.060 under her care, the fact that she is not very clearly in any way emotionally affected by the

00:45:37.060 brutal violence that was done to a white woman, to someone who could be a child, could be a

00:45:43.160 relative, the fact that that just has zero impact on the way that she approaches this and seems to have

00:45:49.720 zero impact on a lot of people who hold similar views is kind of fascinating.

00:45:54.100 Like, do these people not even worry about their own safety?

00:45:57.200 Like, whatever ideology I hate, you know, my college told me to hate white men, whatever, I get it.

00:46:03.960 But at some point, doesn't just self-preservation kick in?

00:46:07.180 Doesn't the desire to not see people who kind of look like you beaten to a pulp for standing on a street

00:46:14.160 and trying to keep other people from getting beat up, doesn't that in any way impact you?

00:46:19.100 I just feel like at some point there has to be appeal to just, like, basic human response to this kind of thing.

00:46:27.120 One would think.

00:46:31.500 One would.

00:46:32.460 One would.

00:46:34.640 I don't know if you had any.

00:46:36.780 Oh, sorry.

00:46:37.160 No, that was just a one line response, right?

00:46:40.800 Fair enough.

00:46:41.440 To your point, yes.

00:46:42.900 This is what a reasonable human being would do.

00:46:46.080 However, it may surprise you.

00:46:49.120 It doesn't seem like this lady was necessarily selected for her position by being the most reasonable and capable law enforcement officer.

00:46:57.600 Are you suggesting this was not a marriage of credit selection, sir?

00:47:01.000 I might have a hint.

00:47:02.800 Maybe.

00:47:03.420 I'm not sure yet.

00:47:04.100 I'll do more research.

00:47:06.240 All right.

00:47:06.800 Let's hear the rest of what she's saying here.

00:47:08.180 Social media, the post that we've seen, does not depict the entire incident.

00:47:15.080 That is one version of what occurred.

00:47:20.740 At times, social media and mainstream media and their commentaries are a misrepresentation of the circumstances surrounding any given event.

00:47:34.160 What that does, that causes us some difficulties in thoroughly investigating the activity.

00:47:43.900 So when people know what actually happened, when they can see what really happened, it makes it difficult for us to spin a narrative that we need to control.

00:47:51.680 Now, to be fair, to give the devil her due here, she is correct that social media often does present a skewed picture of events.

00:48:00.120 And that's why I wanted to provide you a context for that clip, because there was an altercation prior to that woman being struck.

00:48:06.260 I didn't want you to just think that that was the case, that she just was walking down the street and out of nowhere, she got cold cocked by a bunch of black guys who get angry at her.

00:48:14.460 However, even in the context, even with the full context of the clip, there is zero justification for what occurred here.

00:48:22.620 And this is what I think, you know, grinds my gears in this scenario.

00:48:29.480 The idea that if, well, if the person was just kind of a little racist, that's fine, right?

00:48:34.380 Like, I already see this justification.

00:48:36.540 There are big tweets that blew up that got, you know, several million views saying, oh, well, the white guy was probably being racist, so it's fine.

00:48:44.460 And that statement is just insane, and we hear it over and over again.

00:48:48.380 You know, this has always struck me.

00:48:49.840 I always make this reference because it was such a horrible thing that it just echoes in my brain every time I see behavior like this.

00:48:56.480 The story of Cannon Hennett, who's like a five-year-old who got his bike stolen and confronted the person who did.

00:49:03.600 And, or sorry, he got shot while he was on his bike after talking to a black man.

00:49:10.620 Sorry, he did not get his bike stolen, I don't believe.

00:49:12.880 I misspoke there.

00:49:13.440 However, he was shot in the face at that time.

00:49:16.840 And the fact that the first thing that his mother said was, hey, my son wasn't racist because someone said he said the N-word.

00:49:24.720 Like, I don't care if he screamed the N-word through a microphone for 15 minutes.

00:49:31.840 He was just screaming, shrieking through a bullhorn right in your face.

00:49:35.420 You do not get to murder a five-year-old in cold blood because he said something you don't like.

00:49:41.700 And yet that was the very real justification.

00:49:44.060 We saw the same thing recently, obviously, with the young man who was stabbed in the confrontation with the high school track meet.

00:49:53.620 And the very first response by his black assailant was, well, he was, he was being racist to me.

00:49:58.700 And, or you, you guys are only, only noticing that I murdered this guy because you're racist, right?

00:50:05.560 And this is like some kind of automatic defense of like, well, I have a blank check to commit whatever form of violence I want against a white person.

00:50:13.460 If I claim they said something racist at that time, and they usually can't go more than five minutes without themselves than saying something horrifically racist about white people.

00:50:22.400 But the fact that like that is just treated as, you know, a carte blanche to enact this kind of violence as a, on a regular basis in this country is completely unacceptable.

00:50:33.080 And this is why we have to destroy this taboo, right?

00:50:36.220 A lot of people say, well, why do you want to destroy these taboos?

00:50:38.400 And the answer is because these taboos, they, they validate this kind of violence.

00:50:43.460 And, and we simply cannot allow that to continue to happen.

00:50:46.840 Well, exactly.

00:50:48.200 And it comes down to, you know, what does society seem, what does society treat as the most unpardonable sin?

00:50:56.000 And, you know, there are a lot of particularly great examples we could put in there, right?

00:51:00.500 Pick your least favorite action.

00:51:02.240 But if it's racism and it has been amply shown that racism can mean literally anything it needs to be, not only is that effectively making rudeness the ultimate ill of society, but it's rudeness with an ever changing definition, right?

00:51:19.720 It sort of reminds you of, you know, Japan, right?

00:51:23.160 Where if a commoner looked at a samurai or, you know, stepped on his boots, he'd get cut in half with no prop, with no, you know, criminal investigation whatsoever, right?

00:51:31.420 This protected class, if you, if you challenge their honor in any way, then your, your life is forfeit.

00:51:37.380 And look, right, like buried in all of this is this sort of, you know, second class citizen status, where if you are one of the out group, you can be, and you dishonor a client.

00:51:52.840 Well, guess what?

00:51:53.520 Anything that comes to you is fair game, right?

00:51:56.200 It is a, a genuine double standard.

00:51:58.600 And when we look back to ideas of, you know, anarcho tyranny, who is policed, who is not, this is very much what we see.

00:52:04.700 And it's particularly galling when we see the, the way in which selectively edited clips are distributed on social media involving police shootings, for example.

00:52:17.540 So you may remember there was a rather large lady, former WNBA player who had a psychotic break and ended up losing her life after running at a police officer with the butcher knife, right?

00:52:30.260 Relatively, I mean, it's obviously a tragic case, but as far as justified use of force.

00:52:34.700 Running at someone with a butcher knife, screaming, I'm going to kill you.

00:52:38.900 I mean, that's, that's a pretty easy court case, right?

00:52:42.060 But yet, despite the fact that the officer was Asian, there was no white people involved whatsoever.

00:52:48.460 And that when shown in context, it was very, very clear that this was a justified response that the police officer did not want to resort to, right?

00:52:58.160 Minutes of him trying to talk her down.

00:53:00.360 Well, it was slotted into the narrative as another example of, you know, white racists gunning down, you know, innocent POC.

00:53:07.780 And again, right, that surely has happened, right?

00:53:13.740 That, that is a situation which mathematically can occur.

00:53:16.880 But because it fits into this, this broader, shall we say, like race communist narrative where, you know, the eternal Kulaks must be dispossessed.

00:53:26.520 They must have, you know, any sort of social standing taken away from them.

00:53:30.040 They must be denigrated in every possible setting.

00:53:33.680 And in cases like this, subjected to violence, what does it matter?

00:53:38.180 And again, just going to go back to this again, it's not that complicated.

00:53:42.480 They just hate white people.

00:53:44.160 It's really all there is to it.

00:53:45.740 And all of this language to church it up is entirely opportunistic.

00:53:49.600 If the, if this was a situation like that shooting in Northern Virginia of the WNBA player, can you imagine this woman screaming at the media, you know, hectoring people like a, like a school marm who's lost her temper about, you know, distributing edited clips, which made her look bad.

00:54:06.040 Of course not.

00:54:07.400 Right.

00:54:07.620 Any of these, these justifications are post hoc after the case.

00:54:11.780 It is simply a justification for what they wanted to do anyway, which is effectively to discriminate against people like you, me, and members of our audience.

00:54:22.080 And ultimately this is where people have to come to a conclusion, right?

00:54:25.840 That you look at this police chief in Cincinnati and it's hard to escape the fact that the police force does not exist to stop violence against you.

00:54:36.640 It exists to stop you from stopping violence.

00:54:40.420 That they're clients of the regime.

00:54:42.900 They have a free pass.

00:54:44.400 They are allowed to hurt you.

00:54:45.960 They are allowed to injure you.

00:54:47.540 They are allowed to insult you.

00:54:49.100 They are allowed to ban you from schools.

00:54:51.180 They're allowed to ban you from universities.

00:54:53.000 They're allowed to turn you down from a job based on your skin color.

00:54:56.800 And ultimately they're allowed to loot your city, to attack you at your home, to beat you down in public.

00:55:03.240 And should you attempt to seek justice on your own, you better bet you're going to jail, right?

00:55:08.840 If you are even someone like Michael Penny, who decides it's time to, or Daniel Penny, who decides it's time to defend people in a subway car against someone who is of the opposite color, they're going to destroy your life.

00:55:22.000 But if you were to actually seek justice to say, this person has beaten my sister or my wife or my daughter unconscious in the street, and they're going to pay a price for that, whether the cops are going to exact it or not, the cops are going to stop you.

00:55:36.260 And it becomes very clear that the purpose of the government is no longer to protect the citizens at large, to keep peace at large, to have law and order in general, but instead to ensure that those who are being victimized do not seek any kind of reasonable defense or retribution for the crimes that are committed against them.

00:55:57.560 And that's when things get very bad.

00:56:00.120 That's when you get to the point where either people become entirely servile or become revolutionary, because there are no other options, right?

00:56:07.860 If you have legitimate government authorities with the monopoly on violence saying, we don't protect guys with your skin color, there are only so many options left, right?

00:56:19.640 And it's not like we haven't gone through many of them at this point.

00:56:24.060 And so I am obviously not calling for violence in any way here.

00:56:27.980 However, people will.

00:56:29.960 And you'll understand why.

00:56:31.340 Because what other option did you give them?

00:56:33.880 They cannot avail themselves of the law.

00:56:36.020 There are legitimate means for justice.

00:56:38.440 And how long can that exist before people take things into their own hands?

00:56:42.780 And this produces exactly the scenarios that everybody warns us about.

00:56:45.920 And so I think that, again, as silly as the Sidney Sweeney thing is, compared with this, it ultimately really drives us towards this understanding that these issues must be addressed and they must be addressed immediately.

00:57:00.240 And I want to say, I want to give credit where it's due.

00:57:02.500 There are a number of Black voices that have spoken out about this.

00:57:07.100 There are a number of honorable Black commentators who have said, this is unacceptable.

00:57:11.760 We cannot live life like this.

00:57:13.180 Black people cannot behave this way.

00:57:14.680 They cannot be allowed to have this.

00:57:16.500 And so they're not the majority.

00:57:19.680 There is still, I think, unfortunately, the majority of the Black community is still heavily invested in this kind of hall pass that they are getting, this privilege that they are getting for this type of violence.

00:57:29.540 But there are voices speaking out against this.

00:57:31.820 I don't want to pretend it's just one-sided because it is courageous for people like that to speak out.

00:57:37.280 And I, you know, Godspeed to them.

00:57:40.300 I appreciate them recognizing the importance of this justice, even if it doesn't benefit them directly, even if it will even put them at odds with their audience or people in their community recognizing the importance of having that kind of message.

00:57:52.400 But that said, we have quite a few super chats stacking up.

00:57:56.260 So we need to get to the questions of people.

00:57:58.120 Before we do, Mr. Burden, where can people find your excellent work?

00:58:01.120 Yeah, sure.

00:58:01.580 So my primary output is the Jay Burden Show, which you can find on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, anywhere you listen to podcasts.

00:58:08.720 And again, Aaron, thank you so much for having me on.

00:58:10.700 This was a good time.

00:58:11.300 Yeah, of course.

00:58:12.680 And, you know, I am a little disappointed that you didn't continue your in-character.

00:58:16.800 You know, we had Cailin Murphy.

00:58:18.260 We had Steve Jobs.

00:58:19.460 I was hoping we'd, you know, a new personality every week, a lookalike, you know, maybe show up, you know, in the Hulkamania, you know, after the end of it.

00:58:26.800 Oh, that would have been a good idea.

00:58:27.440 Yeah, I just need to start blasting 80s steroids, get a skullet, and I could just be a Hulk Hogan reborn.

00:58:33.500 Yeah, I'm just hoping for a running gag, you know, where we can do some kind of reference.

00:58:37.060 I mean, we keep things light here at the Oren McIntyre Show.

00:58:39.640 Unless this episode, we'll shoot another one.

00:58:42.300 I'll go dress up.

00:58:43.280 It'll be great.

00:58:44.360 Excellent.

00:58:44.980 You know, Birdmania, running wild.

00:58:48.420 All right.

00:58:49.200 Let's go to the questions of the people here.

00:58:52.160 Tiny Stupid Demon says, can someone start a GoFundMe or something to get Mr. Burden a bookcase or brick wall or some kind of better background?

00:58:59.720 This off-white thing is just sad.

00:59:02.100 Yeah, we are going to be getting a fashion makeover for the set here, right, Mr. Burden?

00:59:08.680 Well, if you go to the Jay Burden Show on either Subscribestar, Substack, Gumroad, or Patreon, you can join the special Buy Me a Background tier and you'll get my episodes early and ad-free.

00:59:22.900 So Tiny Stupid Demon, there is a way for you to do that.

00:59:26.240 Excellent.

00:59:26.780 Excellent.

00:59:27.200 Yes.

00:59:27.380 Be the change you want to see in your content creator's world.

00:59:31.600 Let's see here.

00:59:34.080 Weird E-Curb says, above average, women have an incentive to encourage lower beauty standards because it tilts the scales in their favor, less competition.

00:59:44.120 Many people have brought up that dynamic, and I'm sure that exists to a decent degree.

00:59:50.620 I think we are looking at something a little whiter when we come to the complete inversion of beauty that exists inside of the woke movement and what it did to fashion and advertising, all these things.

01:00:03.120 But I'm sure the dynamic you're discussing was at play to some extent.

01:00:08.740 Sorry, hiccup there.

01:00:09.660 K-Max McDonald said, the media pulled an anti-white trifecta this week, Sidney Sweeney, Cincinnati, Ohio Jazz Festival, and CNN calling a midtown New York shooter a white male.

01:00:21.100 Will media ever stop this?

01:00:22.380 It only gets worse.

01:00:23.340 It is quite horrible, and it'll only stop when these people are replaced or sued into oblivion.

01:00:28.760 And we should be working to do both as aggressively as possible.

01:00:32.880 That's another reason to support guys like Mr. Burden and The Blaze.

01:00:36.180 Alternative media is the key to making these people as irrelevant as possible.

01:00:40.740 They're already dying.

01:00:41.860 The podcast sphere is already eating into most of their influence.

01:00:45.280 But the faster that death comes, the better.

01:00:50.420 Let's see here.

01:00:51.400 We have Based Hillbilly says, why do commenters insist on talking about SS?

01:00:59.180 I don't care.

01:01:00.380 Oh, the Sidney Sweeney stuff.

01:01:02.160 Like I said, I understand why that's general.

01:01:04.800 Don't do a lot of pop culture stuff on here.

01:01:06.880 We do sometimes.

01:01:07.820 It's okay to have fun.

01:01:08.920 It doesn't always have to be the worst thing happening in the world today every time.

01:01:13.060 That has its own downside.

01:01:15.720 But I thought this one was important because, like I said, it did transition into larger issues impacting our society.

01:01:21.880 Sidney Sweeney herself, who cares?

01:01:24.200 But it is a mirror that reflects, I think, many of the things that we are trying to address here.

01:01:28.280 Tim Miller says, the left hates white women.

01:01:32.700 They do.

01:01:33.400 They do.

01:01:34.280 Just, you know, again, this is why I kind of shy away from people who just throw out the, well, white women, the white liberal women, they're the problem.

01:01:42.620 Don't let the media make your sister or your wife or your friend the enemy.

01:01:49.220 They might have bad ideology.

01:01:52.400 They might have absorbed bad doctrine.

01:01:54.580 But remember that women tend to be the moral enforcers in society.

01:01:58.500 That's kind of their role.

01:01:59.740 But they don't always determine what morality they're enforcing.

01:02:02.060 And so, you know, women who are handed a morality that is obscene will, you know, enforce it in a way that is harmful to society.

01:02:11.120 Women who are given a morality that I think is uplifting and, you know, they serve a critical role in policing that.

01:02:18.180 That's why the Karen meme itself was a little bit of a little toxic because it ultimately, I think, fingered a aspect of female behavior that we kind of want to exist to some degree.

01:02:28.200 But it needs to be hardest the right direction.

01:02:30.960 Well, and one other thing, remember, obviously, straight white male Christians are, you know, the devil.

01:02:39.300 And straight white female Christians are like Judas in his teeth, right?

01:02:43.860 Like only one step up.

01:02:45.500 And I mean, you see that in times of crisis, right?

01:02:48.800 Obviously, white women are still more on side for the Democrats than white men are, but it's not by much.

01:02:55.760 And the one point in their favor, which is their femaleness, is very clearly and quickly outweighed by all the others.

01:03:04.480 And so that's really a matter of time.

01:03:06.900 You even saw that during, you know, the previous elections where, you know, my wife was told she wasn't a woman because she didn't care about voting.

01:03:15.100 Right.

01:03:15.620 Like that very quickly goes out the window.

01:03:17.480 So and so I find myself agreeing with you, Aaron.

01:03:21.320 Political femininity right next to political blackness there.

01:03:25.540 Cooper Weirdo says, what do you say to people who talk about we figured this race stuff out in the 90s?

01:03:30.980 It's like they don't get where we're what we're trying to say.

01:03:34.200 Yeah.

01:03:34.440 And there is a delusion, right?

01:03:36.580 There's a reason that our friend Academic Agent calls this return to fresh prints, even though, you know, the Rodney King riots happened in the 90s and the O.J. Simpson trial and all kinds of pretty clear examples of racial animus and division.

01:03:50.500 There is this idea that because there had been, I guess, less division to some degree in media in the 90s, that meant that, you know, all of these problems were solved.

01:04:01.500 But clearly, that's just not the case.

01:04:03.640 And pretending like we're returning to a time that never happened is foolish.

01:04:08.060 It's not going to resolve anything.

01:04:09.740 Can you convince people of this?

01:04:11.420 Well, I don't think you're going to argue them out of that right away.

01:04:15.800 You can present the evidence.

01:04:16.980 You can show them the fact that the Rodney King, you know, and the L.A. riots and everything happened.

01:04:21.440 But ultimately, the way I think to show them is to show them things like Sidney Sweeney and to show them things like this beatdown to show them that ultimately this, you know, this attitude is pervasive.

01:04:31.380 And whether you're delusional and believe that it just didn't exist in the 90s or whether, you know, you do have a firm grasp of that, the answer is ultimately we have to address this issue.

01:04:40.560 It's not going away.

01:04:41.700 No matter how many times you call for return to fresh prints, that's not coming.

01:04:45.120 At least at the very minimum until we address this entirely.

01:04:49.900 Well, and to your point, right, the Reginald Denny case I brought up, that was what, 92, right?

01:04:55.120 Like that's it's it's so clearly a cope, right?

01:04:59.080 It's so clearly a convenient narrative to hand that is not at all based in reality.

01:05:04.040 It's amazing.

01:05:06.360 Just Google race rights in America if you want to have fun at some point.

01:05:10.720 The delusional idea that people have about the civil rights movement and, you know, race relations in the 80s and 90s is just in no way accurate.

01:05:19.620 It's not even close.

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01:05:36.060 With friends like these, who needs enemies?

01:05:38.880 Brutal.

01:05:39.320 I mean, I guess I guess if someone's going to insult me, at least paying Oren $300 to do it is, you know, better than not, I guess.

01:05:48.640 So thank you very much, Dissident Soaps.

01:05:50.240 I appreciate it.

01:05:51.440 Well, now this is you're my new you're now going to be my dunk tank, right?

01:05:54.880 I just didn't invite you on the antagonize the audience until they get to pay money to insult you.

01:06:00.600 I'm not too proud to accept that.

01:06:02.620 It's like it's the worst roles that one can have professionally.

01:06:06.900 But I will say this for the if you have not tried Dissident Soaps, excellent soap, excellent shampoo.

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01:06:16.260 So the official position of the J. Birden show is that Dissident Soaps will turn you gay.

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01:06:27.460 Let's see.

01:06:28.860 Sarkinator says any memories of the late great Hulkster?

01:06:31.840 You know, just the basic ones.

01:06:34.600 I'm not one of these adult wrestling fans.

01:06:36.620 Honestly, I know some people are.

01:06:37.940 I find that pretty cringe.

01:06:39.620 But, you know, I'm I'm a nerd in other areas.

01:06:42.160 So I'm not going to try to to be holier than thou in this.

01:06:45.300 But, you know, I had the same memories as a kid growing up, you know, the the the Hulk, you know, fighting all these different different characters in the what I think is WEC at the time.

01:06:57.860 I don't know if it was in the W.

01:06:59.080 They had the two different promotions instead of that.

01:07:02.040 They weren't all combined at the time.

01:07:03.240 But anyway, I, you know, I remember him being, you know, this kind of all American good guy in most of it.

01:07:10.980 And then I was around for a little bit when they started when they turned him into the bad guy.

01:07:14.180 He did the big heel turn in the NWO thing.

01:07:17.880 And I like I said, I don't really I didn't really watch any of that after I got into, like, early high school or something.

01:07:23.340 But I have very fond memories when I was young.

01:07:25.880 And I always remember my great grandmother liked to watch professional wrestling.

01:07:29.740 That was those she used.

01:07:31.020 She called them her stories like those were her soaps.

01:07:33.940 So so always fun memories of sitting down and watching a few matches there as well.

01:07:39.340 Well, I think that the the most kind of recent iconic moment sort of parallel to Trump descending the escalator was, you know, Hulk Hogan introducing him at the RNC.

01:07:50.680 Yeah.

01:07:51.020 Right. Trump-a-mania is going to run wild.

01:07:52.700 And then when he's, you know, saying, like, they shot my hero, like, say what you will about either man involved.

01:07:57.720 That's a great moment.

01:07:58.600 Right.

01:07:58.940 Like, that is a top tier wrestling promo.

01:08:02.460 It was a great moment.

01:08:03.580 And obviously, the fact that he bankrupted Gawker.

01:08:07.340 I mean, if he did nothing else, that would make him a hero in my book.

01:08:10.800 Yeah.

01:08:11.420 I mean, that by itself should get you a statue.

01:08:14.700 Right.

01:08:15.080 We start with Pat Buchanan.

01:08:16.520 But, you know, Terry Bolea goes right next to him.

01:08:19.340 Right.

01:08:19.560 I think that's an excellent plan.

01:08:21.380 Uh, Gabby of Lindbergh says, Jay Burden, subscribe Axios Coaching Fitness.

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01:08:31.200 All right.

01:08:31.400 So we've got a couple of things there.

01:08:32.360 Make sure to subscribe to Joy to Jay Burden, not Joy Burden.

01:08:37.480 He is not a bad MSNBC commentator with a terrible wig.

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01:08:45.780 I feel like.

01:08:46.260 Yes, it is.

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01:08:49.360 Okay.

01:08:49.680 And then, uh, and then of course, uh, OGC, they are trying to start a chapter in New York.

01:08:54.500 So if you are near New York city, you should most certainly meet up with some excellent young

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01:09:01.340 Uh, Sean Weiland says, nobody hates women more than other women.

01:09:05.100 Many such cases, many such cases.

01:09:08.440 Uh, Enrico Palazzo says, Sydney Sweeney don't season jeans.

01:09:12.360 I completely forgot about that meme.

01:09:15.080 I completely forgot about that whole controversy, but yeah, that's great.

01:09:18.220 I have no comment.

01:09:21.260 Uh, tiny Rick says, Robin D'Angelo was right.

01:09:23.600 White people don't know how to talk about race.

01:09:25.980 So here we are talking about it.

01:09:28.140 And what do you people call us racist?

01:09:29.660 Great topic.

01:09:30.180 And guests love your takes.

01:09:31.680 Yeah.

01:09:31.800 We heard endlessly about how we need to have a very serious conversation.

01:09:35.120 We need to have very serious conversation on race.

01:09:37.200 All right, let's do it.

01:09:38.400 All right.

01:09:38.820 Let's have that conversation.

01:09:39.640 Oh, wait, no.

01:09:40.340 Yeah.

01:09:40.540 I don't think you're prepared for the implications of that, right?

01:09:43.700 No, we're, we're taking your advice.

01:09:45.720 We're having that conversation.

01:09:47.020 You can, you can cry in your milk, all your white, or I guess you wouldn't.

01:09:50.400 It's white milk is white supremacists.

01:09:52.280 Yeah.

01:09:52.860 In the soy milk.

01:09:54.240 Hmm.

01:09:56.040 Uh, Joe McDermott says, if we can't stop this anti-white violence, then Trump is in office.

01:10:00.640 It strongly means we will never will.

01:10:02.120 And implications of that lead to fed posting.

01:10:03.920 And again, I hard to argue with that again, this is, this is people who talk about the

01:10:09.280 concern for some kind of racial violence need to understand that if you do not address these

01:10:14.480 things now, if you are not willing to jump into this now, it will only get worse.

01:10:18.900 And you're right to say that with Trump in office and with the federal government, at

01:10:22.300 least nominally under right-wing control, if you cannot address this in serious ways

01:10:26.780 now, it's not going to get addressed and that will just lead to violence.

01:10:30.900 And honestly, that's in the best case scenario, right?

01:10:33.380 There is a worst case scenario where there is no violence and, you know, these people

01:10:36.960 are just beaten with no justice and nothing ever occurs.

01:10:40.200 And so you want to avoid all of that.

01:10:41.980 You want to cut all of that off of the past.

01:10:43.560 You never want to escalate to that point.

01:10:45.300 And the way to do that is to come out very firmly and very strongly and not be scared

01:10:49.480 of discussing this now, addressing this in very real ways.

01:10:52.640 Florida Henry says, police and fire chiefs are the city manager's yes-men padding their

01:10:59.600 retirement.

01:11:00.200 Unfortunately, that is very often the case.

01:11:02.700 And if you don't understand the city management relationship, check into that.

01:11:06.920 It's a, as somebody who got to report on a lot of municipal government, I won't say it's

01:11:11.420 fascinating, but it is a great, great way to understand why all of your local governments

01:11:16.720 are absolute disasters.

01:11:19.300 K-Max McDonald says, in the academic world, how long has this notion been that only white

01:11:24.660 people can be racist?

01:11:25.780 Based on this definition, no other group can be accountable for the racism.

01:11:29.320 How do we change this?

01:11:30.440 I mean, it's been repeated over and over again in academia for several decades.

01:11:35.120 I mean, it's generous genesis that exists, you know, in the 1960s, right?

01:11:39.780 Like that's the power dynamic being the definition of racism is clearly something that came out

01:11:47.100 of Marxist revolutionary thinking in the 60s.

01:11:49.220 That said, it's been, you know, covered up and prettied up in a lot of academic language

01:11:54.140 at this point.

01:11:55.020 But the only way to change this is to, well, you know, salt the universities, you know, just

01:12:01.000 strip them of their endowments, sell off their buildings and salt the land that they sit

01:12:06.340 on.

01:12:07.560 As a wise man once said, I'll know I've won when there are tanks in Harvard Yard and I

01:12:13.280 will, I concur.

01:12:15.460 Yep.

01:12:16.120 The solution is there.

01:12:17.860 Wokeness is over when we have the tanks in Harvard Yard.

01:12:20.840 Anti-Sydney Sweeney stuff is biolininus cope.

01:12:24.700 Yep.

01:12:24.980 Again, a lot of people expressing this and it's very clear that there is a spiteful mutant

01:12:30.460 as Edward Dutton calls the phenomenon aspect.

01:12:33.840 Some will call it biolinism, you know, but however you want to label it, very clear that

01:12:38.620 that resentment is, is deep under there.

01:12:41.620 Axios.

01:12:42.200 Hey, there he is.

01:12:43.020 He gives us a very generous donation along with several beavers.

01:12:47.260 Very appreciate you coming by, sir.

01:12:49.960 JD, you're supposed to give me the money, not Aura.

01:12:53.260 That's how a sponsorship works.

01:12:55.440 Dang.

01:12:56.260 Oh no.

01:12:56.580 All right.

01:12:57.260 And then Alex also says, make American women beautiful again.

01:13:01.000 The uglification of women, family, and basically everything else by the left seems demonic and

01:13:06.340 iconoclastic.

01:13:07.360 You know, to this day, my largest video on this channel is me pointing out why the left

01:13:13.240 hates beauty.

01:13:14.960 And I'm a little miffed because it like overtook my like deep theory piece that was used to

01:13:19.980 be that.

01:13:20.400 It's just me like explaining like the very obvious resentment that exists in the left.

01:13:24.200 But if you want to go back to that one, it is, I do think it is a good explanation.

01:13:28.280 It's not super complicated.

01:13:29.900 It is very, very straightforward.

01:13:32.100 But it is important to note that, yeah, I think at the end of the day, the left is a

01:13:35.740 revolt against God's order and the hierarchy established.

01:13:38.640 This comes with ability.

01:13:40.160 This comes with beauty.

01:13:41.160 This comes with, you know, civilization.

01:13:44.220 Everything about the way that God ordered the world, the left is a rebellion against that.

01:13:49.480 And so I think that you can't see that and then not apply that understanding to the phenomenon

01:13:55.480 around you on a regular basis.

01:13:58.620 All right, guys.

01:13:59.540 Oh, well, we got one more snuck in there.

01:14:03.340 Joe McDermott says, antidote for the only white people can be racist.

01:14:06.800 My father was told this when he was drafted and being sent to Vietnam by the U.S.

01:14:11.200 Army priorities.

01:14:12.020 Yeah, again, that that is something that has existed for a long time, all the way back in

01:14:17.000 the 60s, at least.

01:14:18.100 So it's it's it's more pronounced now, but it is not a new development.

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