The Auron MacIntyre Show - Elon Takes On the UK Government Over Islamic Grooming Gangs ｜ Guest： Carl Benjamin

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00:00:30.280 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:32.140 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:33.720 I've got a great stream with great guests

00:00:35.320 that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:37.600 So Elon has been on his redemption arc lately.

00:00:41.320 He got into quite the knockdown drag out

00:00:43.700 with many of the MAGA right in the United States

00:00:46.620 over the H-1B issue.

00:00:48.340 But he immediately moved over to discussing

00:00:51.480 something that has been going on in the UK for a long time.

00:00:55.740 If you have been paying attention to this show,

00:00:58.540 if you've been watching this show,

00:00:59.400 then you're aware of the grooming gang scandal

00:01:01.900 that came out of the UK

00:01:03.160 and all of the terrible happenings

00:01:05.580 that were covered up by the government there.

00:01:07.280 But most Americans were not.

00:01:09.000 Most people around the world were not.

00:01:11.000 And Elon has brought this to the forefront

00:01:13.480 of the mind of Americans, the UK,

00:01:17.320 everyone across the world.

00:01:18.500 Through his posting on this issue,

00:01:20.640 he has been challenging the government

00:01:22.540 of the United Kingdom.

00:01:23.940 It's been quite a thing to watch.

00:01:26.260 And so I wanted to bring Carl Benjamin

00:01:28.060 from the Lotus Eaters on to talk about it.

00:01:30.140 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:01:31.460 Anytime, man.

00:01:32.180 You know it.

00:01:33.600 Absolutely.

00:01:34.180 Well, like I said,

00:01:35.080 most people who watch the show

00:01:36.340 are probably familiar with,

00:01:38.480 at least passingly,

00:01:39.920 with what was going on.

00:01:41.260 But for many people,

00:01:42.620 this is the first time

00:01:43.700 they have ever heard about it.

00:01:45.240 So could you lay out,

00:01:46.840 just kind of give a short explanation

00:01:48.840 of this scandal,

00:01:50.540 where it started,

00:01:51.680 and kind of how we got here?

00:01:54.520 The roots of this scandal

00:01:56.340 go back all the way back

00:01:58.020 to the 1970s,

00:01:59.600 where this kind of behavior

00:02:02.120 has been manifested

00:02:03.020 by the Pakistani community in Britain.

00:02:05.280 But in the 1970s,

00:02:07.780 that community was very, very small.

00:02:10.280 Vanishingly small.

00:02:11.600 So it didn't attract nationwide attention.

00:02:14.880 But in 1997,

00:02:17.840 we elected a Labour government

00:02:18.940 under Tony Blair,

00:02:20.240 and he decided that what we would do

00:02:21.660 is ramp up immigration

00:02:22.700 from the tens of thousands

00:02:24.380 to the hundreds of thousands

00:02:25.880 every year.

00:02:27.040 And so we had a net inflow

00:02:28.360 of somewhere between 250,000

00:02:29.960 to 350,000 people every year.

00:02:32.900 And a large percentage of those

00:02:34.380 have been Pakistani Muslims.

00:02:36.320 So now,

00:02:37.080 Britain is about 5% Muslim,

00:02:39.900 but the distribution of these people

00:02:44.720 is very concentrated

00:02:46.340 in certain urban areas.

00:02:49.700 And what this means

00:02:51.100 is that they have

00:02:52.040 a very insular,

00:02:53.120 tightly-knit community

00:02:54.260 that is often

00:02:56.340 quite more interrelated

00:02:59.340 than the normal Western community is,

00:03:03.380 of course,

00:03:04.160 through consanguineous marriages

00:03:06.160 and essentially cousins,

00:03:09.560 marrying cousins through families,

00:03:10.840 and then all arriving

00:03:12.840 in the same area

00:03:13.700 through this network

00:03:14.740 of connections.

00:03:16.540 And this community

00:03:19.200 has a habit,

00:03:21.640 a kind of cultural preference,

00:03:24.260 maybe you could call it,

00:03:26.180 of what is politely called

00:03:30.460 grooming in this country.

00:03:32.360 And that is to target

00:03:33.740 vulnerable young girls

00:03:35.420 and ply them with drugs

00:03:38.240 and alcohol,

00:03:39.580 emotionally abuse them first.

00:03:43.140 So what they'll do

00:03:45.120 is they'll take

00:03:46.320 a young girl

00:03:48.300 who has obviously

00:03:49.000 a bad home life

00:03:49.860 or they'll,

00:03:50.820 in many cases,

00:03:51.860 attack sort of orphanages

00:03:54.920 or various places

00:03:56.620 where children

00:03:57.960 who don't have access

00:04:00.180 to a stable family life

00:04:01.620 have to stay

00:04:03.120 and make them feel

00:04:06.980 like they belong somewhere.

00:04:08.960 And part of the deal

00:04:10.960 in that relationship

00:04:12.220 is, well,

00:04:14.200 they have to have sex

00:04:15.100 with lots of the men

00:04:16.000 in that community.

00:04:18.180 This is usually done

00:04:19.840 to underage girls,

00:04:21.320 although it has been done

00:04:22.460 to like, you know,

00:04:23.260 18, 17, 18-year-old girls

00:04:25.600 as well.

00:04:26.160 But it can be done

00:04:27.180 to girls as young

00:04:28.040 as like 11,

00:04:29.060 like incredibly young girls

00:04:30.660 who are incredibly vulnerable

00:04:32.160 and they,

00:04:34.360 on the one scale of it,

00:04:36.220 can just be raped

00:04:37.100 by the immediate family

00:04:40.300 of the sort of grooming gang.

00:04:43.560 But on the other scale,

00:04:44.700 they are horribly physically abused.

00:04:47.220 On the other side of the scale,

00:04:47.960 they're horribly physically abused.

00:04:49.980 And they are pimped

00:04:51.800 around the country.

00:04:52.820 They're trafficked and pimped

00:04:53.960 to other Muslim-majority enclaves

00:04:57.040 in these various cities.

00:04:58.960 and the abuses

00:05:01.260 that you can quite happily

00:05:03.860 go and find lots of reports

00:05:06.080 and inquiries into this

00:05:07.080 because many have been done

00:05:08.520 and I've covered many of them myself.

00:05:10.880 And it is just the most humiliating,

00:05:14.400 degrading things

00:05:15.660 that are done to these girls.

00:05:17.380 And so callously.

00:05:19.340 There is no...

00:05:20.700 There's no pretense of compassion

00:05:24.200 for these girls.

00:05:25.540 And because this scandal

00:05:28.520 has been going on

00:05:29.020 for such a long time

00:05:29.780 and it's been identified

00:05:30.920 in 50 different towns

00:05:32.540 and cities in Britain now,

00:05:34.720 pretty much everywhere

00:05:36.640 that this one community has gone,

00:05:39.920 it's been something

00:05:41.380 that the Labour Party,

00:05:42.640 who essentially brought

00:05:43.360 these people in

00:05:44.060 and set up the cultural atmosphere

00:05:46.380 to protect them,

00:05:47.800 to suggest that any criticism

00:05:49.300 of this community

00:05:50.020 was a form of racism

00:05:51.160 and in fact

00:05:51.800 it was just your irrational bigotry

00:05:54.000 against people

00:05:54.580 with brown skin

00:05:55.540 that was to play here

00:05:57.720 when you were critiquing

00:05:58.920 this kind of behaviour.

00:06:00.920 They have been

00:06:02.360 continuing this

00:06:04.160 ever since it came to light

00:06:05.620 and it came to light

00:06:06.720 initially in the early 2000s

00:06:08.820 where you had

00:06:09.340 people like

00:06:10.540 the British National Party

00:06:11.960 who are

00:06:12.800 a kind of actual

00:06:14.760 descendant of a Nazi party

00:06:16.260 first calling Alarm Tope

00:06:18.520 but of course

00:06:19.080 no one wants to hear it.

00:06:21.080 The population of Britain

00:06:21.940 is something like

00:06:23.240 87%, 90%

00:06:25.780 homogenous

00:06:26.460 native Britain at the time

00:06:27.740 and so

00:06:28.780 it was just

00:06:29.840 written off

00:06:31.200 as racism

00:06:31.960 and if it wasn't

00:06:33.560 coming from people

00:06:34.320 who were just kind of

00:06:34.860 essentially about racist

00:06:36.080 maybe it would have been

00:06:37.300 taken more seriously

00:06:37.960 and then a couple

00:06:39.280 of liberal journalists

00:06:40.640 did

00:06:41.080 in about 2003

00:06:42.900 say hang on

00:06:43.580 there is actually

00:06:44.300 something to this

00:06:45.280 but there was a general

00:06:47.100 sort of

00:06:48.280 withdrawing of breath

00:06:51.700 from the subject

00:06:52.680 as in

00:06:53.260 they didn't

00:06:55.120 get cast out

00:06:56.340 of polite society

00:06:57.320 but everyone was like

00:06:58.460 okay but that's

00:06:59.200 very uncomfortable

00:07:00.080 to talk about

00:07:00.860 at the

00:07:01.920 Westminster dinner party

00:07:03.780 circuit

00:07:04.180 where the politicians

00:07:05.560 and the media

00:07:06.220 and the quangocracy

00:07:07.500 all

00:07:08.480 hang out with each other

00:07:10.240 frankly

00:07:10.700 they go to each other's

00:07:11.520 houses and have dinner parties

00:07:12.600 and congratulate each other

00:07:14.580 and being so progressive

00:07:15.420 that didn't play well there

00:07:17.740 because it was very

00:07:18.220 uncomfortable

00:07:18.660 and because they didn't

00:07:20.300 really care

00:07:20.920 because it was happening

00:07:21.600 to the working class

00:07:22.640 white girls

00:07:23.780 of north and middle

00:07:25.800 England

00:07:26.300 not their problem

00:07:27.640 not the middle class south

00:07:29.160 and

00:07:30.400 so this

00:07:31.500 issue is left to fester

00:07:32.920 and

00:07:33.260 the fish

00:07:35.140 really did rot

00:07:35.960 from the head down

00:07:36.780 in this case

00:07:37.420 the government

00:07:38.620 the councils

00:07:40.440 the social workers

00:07:41.740 and the police

00:07:42.660 all did everything

00:07:44.220 that they could

00:07:44.800 and this is very

00:07:45.800 very well documented

00:07:46.980 to

00:07:48.360 try and imply

00:07:49.880 that in fact

00:07:50.340 somehow it was the girls

00:07:51.320 that were at fault

00:07:52.120 and some of the quotes

00:07:54.040 from police officers

00:07:55.300 and this

00:07:55.900 is going back to like

00:07:56.780 2006

00:07:57.440 at the time

00:07:59.440 were just

00:08:00.360 mind boggling

00:08:02.080 how they would

00:08:03.160 essentially blame the girls

00:08:04.220 for trying to get these men

00:08:05.320 who were raping them

00:08:06.020 in trouble

00:08:06.460 and so what we were

00:08:08.600 essentially exposed to

00:08:09.980 was a politically correct

00:08:10.920 cover up

00:08:11.580 it would look bad

00:08:13.260 if we were to admit

00:08:14.440 that this was coming

00:08:15.600 predominantly

00:08:16.180 almost entirely

00:08:17.260 from one particular community

00:08:19.140 it would look bad

00:08:20.580 if

00:08:21.040 we

00:08:21.920 admitted

00:08:23.240 that the people in charge

00:08:24.940 were essentially

00:08:25.420 trying to cover it up

00:08:26.600 and we can go quite deeply

00:08:28.260 into that if you'd like

00:08:29.140 it would look bad

00:08:30.820 if

00:08:31.360 these girls

00:08:32.480 were just left

00:08:33.080 to twist in the wind

00:08:34.160 in

00:08:34.760 I mean

00:08:35.540 in many cases

00:08:36.440 they were simply

00:08:38.160 never rescued

00:08:39.220 from their abusers

00:08:40.360 and had to escape

00:08:41.660 on their own

00:08:42.300 this all looks quite bad

00:08:44.260 and so

00:08:44.720 in about

00:08:45.280 2009

00:08:46.540 2010

00:08:47.320 I think it's a little bit

00:08:49.040 earlier than that actually

00:08:49.740 but you have

00:08:50.320 a working class

00:08:51.380 upsurge

00:08:52.400 against this

00:08:53.120 because

00:08:53.420 it becomes apparent

00:08:54.940 to working class people

00:08:56.200 in the sort of

00:08:57.000 middle and north of England

00:08:57.960 that in fact

00:08:59.080 the powers that be

00:09:00.320 are not on their side

00:09:01.320 on this issue

00:09:01.900 they've been completely

00:09:03.140 abandoned

00:09:03.580 they

00:09:04.520 as far as they're

00:09:05.560 concerned

00:09:06.000 the powers that be

00:09:07.260 say it's okay

00:09:08.240 for this community

00:09:09.780 to predate

00:09:11.000 on the other community

00:09:12.300 and so

00:09:13.700 the English

00:09:14.300 Defence League

00:09:14.960 was born

00:09:15.440 and this was

00:09:16.600 an attempt

00:09:17.300 by

00:09:18.220 lower class men

00:09:20.500 working class men

00:09:21.260 who are not

00:09:22.820 politically connected

00:09:24.240 they have no elite

00:09:24.980 backing

00:09:25.360 they have

00:09:26.520 nothing

00:09:27.600 behind them

00:09:28.480 other than

00:09:29.020 the truth

00:09:29.700 and a moral imperative

00:09:31.380 they took to the streets

00:09:33.500 and said

00:09:33.740 look we are under attack

00:09:34.920 we are collectively

00:09:36.360 our community

00:09:37.240 is under attack

00:09:38.260 from another community

00:09:39.420 and this

00:09:39.880 group was led

00:09:40.920 by a man

00:09:41.600 called Stephen

00:09:42.420 Yanksley-Lennon

00:09:43.180 who people will

00:09:44.120 otherwise know

00:09:44.640 as Tommy Robinson

00:09:45.420 and

00:09:46.940 because they were

00:09:48.420 lowbrow

00:09:49.080 because they were

00:09:50.440 criticizing

00:09:51.860 a newly

00:09:53.160 or mostly

00:09:54.140 newly arrived

00:09:55.000 immigrant

00:09:56.140 non-white

00:09:57.100 community

00:09:57.760 and because

00:09:59.260 the victims

00:10:00.480 that they were

00:10:01.100 trying to stand by

00:10:02.240 had no connection

00:10:03.780 to the middle class

00:10:04.820 and

00:10:05.900 were generally

00:10:07.000 scorned by them

00:10:07.940 anyway

00:10:08.440 before they'd even

00:10:09.340 become victims

00:10:10.120 it was very easy

00:10:12.380 for our establishment

00:10:13.420 to turn around

00:10:13.960 and say

00:10:14.220 no you're just

00:10:15.340 racists

00:10:16.020 no you're just

00:10:17.120 racists

00:10:17.740 nothing's happening

00:10:19.020 there isn't a

00:10:20.040 grooming gang problem

00:10:20.840 these girls don't

00:10:21.920 have any issues

00:10:22.720 in fact the girls

00:10:23.620 themselves are the

00:10:24.260 problem

00:10:24.560 and you are a

00:10:26.540 racist

00:10:27.020 and we will

00:10:28.820 and this is the

00:10:30.060 the most

00:10:30.580 effective campaign

00:10:33.040 of defamation

00:10:33.840 I've ever seen

00:10:35.040 really

00:10:35.600 they turned

00:10:37.640 Tommy Robinson

00:10:38.820 into a kind of

00:10:40.080 demonic figure

00:10:41.000 for the liberal order

00:10:42.040 and all of them

00:10:43.280 did this

00:10:43.700 they are all

00:10:44.240 culpable and complicit

00:10:45.340 in what is

00:10:46.460 effectively a giant

00:10:47.160 cover-up

00:10:47.540 and now they use

00:10:48.520 him as a kind of

00:10:50.100 totemic

00:10:50.860 racist evil

00:10:52.380 now one might ask

00:10:54.480 well give me the

00:10:55.480 quote

00:10:55.800 give me the quote

00:10:57.180 what is the totemic

00:10:58.060 racist thing that he

00:10:58.860 said

00:10:59.260 and you'll notice

00:11:00.640 it's never provided

00:11:01.520 they don't have any

00:11:02.720 snippets of Tommy

00:11:03.560 Robinson

00:11:03.960 being excessively

00:11:05.760 racist

00:11:06.280 or abnormally racist

00:11:07.780 or even particularly

00:11:08.560 racist

00:11:09.120 what they have

00:11:10.580 is a campaign

00:11:12.760 of

00:11:13.480 vibes

00:11:14.860 against him

00:11:15.820 and at this point

00:11:17.480 he is

00:11:18.480 a total pariah

00:11:19.640 he has been

00:11:20.560 targeted by the

00:11:21.540 state

00:11:21.920 he is

00:11:23.120 a political

00:11:24.000 prisoner

00:11:24.480 even if

00:11:25.480 in this case

00:11:26.680 it's not directly

00:11:27.960 related to grooming

00:11:28.900 gangs

00:11:29.320 it's still related

00:11:30.680 to his relationship

00:11:31.780 between

00:11:32.380 with

00:11:33.300 the

00:11:34.120 liberal elite

00:11:35.200 and the

00:11:36.260 the judges

00:11:36.940 the police

00:11:38.400 the

00:11:39.120 the

00:11:39.660 the

00:11:40.780 councillors

00:11:41.480 the MPs

00:11:42.100 the entire

00:11:43.020 the entire

00:11:44.040 structure

00:11:45.000 is set up

00:11:46.620 to

00:11:47.080 well

00:11:48.380 ultimately ruin him

00:11:49.540 like the purpose

00:11:50.340 he's been

00:11:51.040 bankrupted

00:11:51.880 right

00:11:52.220 he has been

00:11:52.740 bankrupted

00:11:53.380 he's lost his

00:11:54.320 property

00:11:54.680 he's had to

00:11:55.580 divorce his wife

00:11:56.400 he has

00:11:57.260 his

00:11:57.820 his entire life

00:11:59.280 has been ruined

00:12:00.060 by these people

00:12:00.560 he's been deplatformed

00:12:01.400 he's been debanked

00:12:02.320 he has been barred

00:12:03.440 from certain towns

00:12:04.540 and cities

00:12:05.100 he is

00:12:06.720 public enemy number

00:12:07.840 one to these people

00:12:08.920 and his crime

00:12:09.800 really

00:12:10.460 is to expose

00:12:11.860 the floor

00:12:12.440 in multiculturalism

00:12:13.600 and

00:12:14.540 this

00:12:15.420 is the

00:12:16.120 20 year

00:12:17.180 backdrop

00:12:17.800 to what is

00:12:18.820 happening

00:12:19.180 with

00:12:19.460 Elon Musk

00:12:20.140 right now

00:12:21.200 this

00:12:22.220 is all

00:12:24.260 being

00:12:24.580 essentially

00:12:25.480 laid on

00:12:26.380 Elon Musk's

00:12:27.080 desk

00:12:27.440 in the course

00:12:28.360 of a week

00:12:28.840 and because

00:12:29.940 this is so

00:12:30.860 well documented

00:12:31.660 it's been going

00:12:32.800 like I said

00:12:33.260 it's been going

00:12:33.580 for decades

00:12:34.100 we must have

00:12:34.800 had about

00:12:35.060 a dozen

00:12:35.420 inquests

00:12:35.880 at this point

00:12:36.340 because it's

00:12:37.400 all so well

00:12:37.880 documented

00:12:38.360 you get

00:12:39.100 superb

00:12:39.740 journalists

00:12:40.160 the one or two

00:12:41.220 really superb

00:12:42.180 journalists

00:12:42.660 Charlie Peters

00:12:43.880 and Sam Ashworth

00:12:44.840 Hayes

00:12:45.160 are the ones

00:12:45.480 I've been

00:12:45.780 following

00:12:46.020 on this

00:12:46.320 and they

00:12:46.620 are just

00:12:46.980 brilliant

00:12:48.400 because what

00:12:49.100 they've been

00:12:49.380 doing is

00:12:49.920 going through

00:12:50.660 these various

00:12:51.460 reports

00:12:52.120 and just

00:12:53.040 picking out

00:12:53.740 just parts

00:12:55.260 of them

00:12:55.560 this is

00:12:56.100 this is what

00:12:56.880 happened in

00:12:57.340 Oldham

00:12:57.560 this is what

00:12:58.360 happened in

00:12:58.780 Telford

00:12:59.060 this is what

00:12:59.920 happened in

00:13:00.300 Rochdale

00:13:00.640 and posting

00:13:01.880 it out

00:13:02.280 and Elon

00:13:03.300 has seen

00:13:03.860 these

00:13:04.240 and has

00:13:04.920 said wow

00:13:05.260 that seems

00:13:05.860 mind-bogglingly

00:13:07.360 insane

00:13:07.880 that the

00:13:08.680 British state

00:13:09.260 could actually

00:13:10.100 use these

00:13:11.240 English girls

00:13:11.940 these totally

00:13:12.580 vulnerable

00:13:12.940 the most vulnerable

00:13:13.720 people in our

00:13:14.240 society

00:13:14.680 use them as

00:13:15.780 a sacrificial

00:13:16.500 lamb on the

00:13:17.020 altar of

00:13:17.360 multiculturalism

00:13:18.220 because this

00:13:19.140 one community

00:13:20.140 has no ethical

00:13:21.300 problem with it

00:13:22.080 being done

00:13:22.720 and this is

00:13:24.920 where we are

00:13:25.380 now

00:13:25.680 at the moment

00:13:26.620 what they're

00:13:27.040 trying to do

00:13:27.740 is divert

00:13:28.900 the blame

00:13:29.620 and make

00:13:30.200 Jess Phillips

00:13:31.160 who is the

00:13:32.260 Minister for

00:13:33.020 Safeguarding

00:13:33.820 and Women

00:13:34.360 the victim

00:13:36.320 of Elon Musk's

00:13:37.500 tweets

00:13:37.860 instead of

00:13:39.080 the victims

00:13:40.560 of these

00:13:41.080 rape gangs

00:13:41.700 because what

00:13:42.480 they're trying

00:13:42.900 to do

00:13:43.220 ultimately

00:13:43.760 is protect

00:13:44.980 the good

00:13:45.700 standing

00:13:46.140 and dignity

00:13:46.840 of the

00:13:47.700 Pakistani

00:13:48.080 community

00:13:48.760 yeah it's

00:13:50.420 been wild

00:13:50.900 to watch

00:13:51.440 from the

00:13:51.780 outside

00:13:52.180 because like

00:13:53.140 you said

00:13:53.420 whenever I

00:13:54.280 see anyone

00:13:55.340 like Keir

00:13:55.880 Starmer

00:13:56.280 or any of

00:13:56.860 these other

00:13:57.240 government

00:13:57.620 officials

00:13:58.100 many of

00:13:58.700 the British

00:13:59.160 media

00:13:59.540 reacting to

00:14:00.780 this

00:14:01.140 the response

00:14:02.060 is not

00:14:02.540 hey I

00:14:03.360 thought we

00:14:03.800 were protecting

00:14:04.480 women

00:14:04.840 I thought we

00:14:05.340 were outraged

00:14:06.160 that when

00:14:06.720 women were

00:14:07.140 victimized

00:14:07.840 of course

00:14:08.460 we should

00:14:09.120 be there

00:14:09.640 for these

00:14:10.560 women

00:14:10.800 that has

00:14:11.440 not been

00:14:12.100 the response

00:14:12.880 the response

00:14:13.600 has been

00:14:14.220 well Elon

00:14:15.000 Musk is a

00:14:15.760 foreigner and

00:14:16.600 he's meddling

00:14:17.320 in our affairs

00:14:18.200 right

00:14:18.580 it seems like

00:14:20.060 the effort

00:14:20.840 has been to

00:14:21.500 rally around

00:14:22.420 the very people

00:14:23.440 who are responsible

00:14:24.300 for facilitating

00:14:26.080 this

00:14:27.080 basically a war

00:14:29.180 crime right

00:14:29.660 like if a

00:14:30.340 foreign

00:14:30.920 power was

00:14:32.180 coming into

00:14:32.800 your country

00:14:33.300 and you know

00:14:34.360 working its way

00:14:35.180 through all of

00:14:35.920 your daughters

00:14:36.400 you would

00:14:36.780 recognize this

00:14:37.600 as a war

00:14:38.080 crime of

00:14:38.540 conquest

00:14:39.120 and instead

00:14:40.040 it's being

00:14:41.040 facilitated by

00:14:42.600 the leaders

00:14:43.180 of this

00:14:43.660 country

00:14:44.000 but the

00:14:44.400 response

00:14:44.820 mainly seems

00:14:45.300 to be

00:14:45.560 oh well

00:14:46.220 this is

00:14:46.620 our business

00:14:47.240 and because

00:14:47.680 Elon Musk

00:14:48.280 is outside

00:14:49.720 he is

00:14:50.660 somehow

00:14:51.520 like Putin

00:14:52.400 he's going

00:14:52.940 to try to

00:14:53.340 work on

00:14:53.640 our elections

00:14:54.160 and that's

00:14:54.900 the real

00:14:56.060 crime here

00:14:56.720 not the

00:14:57.440 horrible

00:14:58.020 targeting

00:14:58.660 of women

00:14:59.400 who

00:14:59.660 again

00:15:00.260 many of

00:15:01.120 these

00:15:01.320 gangs

00:15:01.660 felt they

00:15:02.080 were completely

00:15:02.460 justified

00:15:02.840 just because

00:15:03.840 these women

00:15:04.440 were white

00:15:04.760 sorry

00:15:05.000 sorry to

00:15:06.400 interrupt

00:15:06.660 it's not

00:15:07.140 women

00:15:07.380 it's girls

00:15:08.020 it's 12

00:15:09.120 14

00:15:09.700 15 year old

00:15:10.320 girls

00:15:10.560 they're not

00:15:10.940 women

00:15:11.180 that's the

00:15:11.720 thing

00:15:12.000 and often

00:15:13.580 they have

00:15:14.100 really broken

00:15:14.980 homes

00:15:15.360 a lot of

00:15:16.080 them are

00:15:16.500 in

00:15:17.240 children's

00:15:18.640 refuges

00:15:19.340 they have

00:15:21.160 chosen

00:15:21.760 these gangs

00:15:22.700 have chosen

00:15:23.160 the very

00:15:23.760 weakest

00:15:24.280 among us

00:15:25.140 to do this

00:15:25.640 to

00:15:25.840 and as a

00:15:26.680 father of

00:15:27.080 two daughters

00:15:27.560 I'm just

00:15:28.140 looking at

00:15:28.520 thinking

00:15:28.840 well they're

00:15:29.780 there but

00:15:30.280 for the grace

00:15:30.660 of God

00:15:31.060 right

00:15:31.260 go my

00:15:31.620 daughters

00:15:32.020 and it

00:15:32.400 could have

00:15:32.860 been anyone

00:15:33.260 could have

00:15:33.740 been absolutely

00:15:34.380 anyone

00:15:34.800 but you

00:15:35.440 are exactly

00:15:36.020 right on

00:15:36.620 that by the

00:15:36.980 way

00:15:37.140 sorry to

00:15:37.520 again sorry

00:15:37.920 to interrupt

00:15:38.220 you you

00:15:38.740 you were

00:15:39.080 completely

00:15:39.380 correct

00:15:39.700 they have

00:15:40.500 circled the

00:15:41.120 wagons on

00:15:41.920 this they

00:15:42.440 have decided

00:15:43.000 this is

00:15:43.400 expressly a

00:15:44.200 partisan

00:15:44.680 political

00:15:45.400 issue

00:15:45.980 the people

00:15:47.120 on the

00:15:47.580 left are

00:15:48.520 pro-rape

00:15:49.400 gang and

00:15:50.240 will defend

00:15:50.880 their record

00:15:51.940 on the

00:15:52.280 rape gangs

00:15:52.800 they will

00:15:53.220 prevent any

00:15:54.320 further inquiry

00:15:55.320 in the

00:15:55.600 rape gangs

00:15:56.120 and the

00:15:56.780 people on

00:15:57.340 the right

00:15:57.820 including most

00:15:58.840 of the

00:15:59.140 conservatives

00:15:59.640 for once

00:16:00.680 are actually

00:16:01.580 on the correct

00:16:02.160 side of the

00:16:02.660 issue

00:16:02.900 reform

00:16:03.500 reform's

00:16:04.780 Rupert Lowe

00:16:05.280 has been

00:16:05.660 leading the

00:16:06.380 charge on

00:16:06.980 this

00:16:07.300 Rupert Lowe

00:16:08.180 went into

00:16:08.660 parliament

00:16:09.000 today where

00:16:09.500 they were

00:16:09.780 the conservatives

00:16:10.640 decided they

00:16:11.280 were going to

00:16:11.520 try and force

00:16:12.120 a vote

00:16:12.720 on a national

00:16:14.080 inquiry into

00:16:15.100 this so most

00:16:15.720 of the inquiries

00:16:16.560 have been

00:16:17.160 regional as in

00:16:18.100 the Rochdale

00:16:18.840 inquiry the

00:16:19.400 Telford

00:16:20.220 inquiry the

00:16:21.180 Rotherham

00:16:21.520 inquiry things

00:16:22.380 like this

00:16:22.780 right so

00:16:23.140 direct local

00:16:23.940 inquiries

00:16:24.520 and when

00:16:26.180 the horrors

00:16:27.920 of what's

00:16:28.320 happened are

00:16:28.780 found out

00:16:29.380 the government

00:16:31.460 and the local

00:16:32.040 council usually

00:16:33.760 fail to implement

00:16:34.900 any of the

00:16:35.520 safeguarding

00:16:36.040 mechanisms

00:16:36.480 because essentially

00:16:37.740 what it would

00:16:38.580 force them to

00:16:39.200 do is admit

00:16:40.680 that there is a

00:16:41.220 problem with

00:16:41.700 this one

00:16:42.060 community

00:16:42.480 why are there

00:16:43.560 Pakistani men

00:16:44.500 hanging around

00:16:45.160 a school all

00:16:46.760 day every day

00:16:47.340 that's a really

00:16:47.840 weird thing

00:16:48.520 isn't it

00:16:48.900 and so they

00:16:49.660 would have to

00:16:50.180 essentially

00:16:50.700 have the

00:16:53.260 authorities there

00:16:54.140 look out for

00:16:55.120 Pakistani men

00:16:56.140 and they would

00:16:56.500 have to expressly

00:16:57.340 state this

00:16:57.920 but of course

00:16:59.260 they can't do

00:16:59.940 that because

00:17:00.520 they're intransigent

00:17:01.560 liberals and to

00:17:02.820 them that would

00:17:03.260 be racism and

00:17:03.900 so they have to

00:17:04.860 essentially do

00:17:06.380 everything with a

00:17:06.900 light touch

00:17:07.420 and so the

00:17:09.340 conservatives and

00:17:10.360 reform in

00:17:12.220 parliament today

00:17:12.860 started actually

00:17:13.860 giving it to the

00:17:14.760 Labour Party

00:17:15.200 and this comes

00:17:16.980 after five days

00:17:17.700 of Elon Musk

00:17:18.180 non-stop

00:17:19.180 hammering the

00:17:20.060 issue

00:17:20.320 and I just

00:17:21.020 want to say

00:17:21.320 personal thank

00:17:22.100 you to Elon

00:17:22.540 Musk for

00:17:22.940 actually making

00:17:23.720 this the

00:17:24.400 issue

00:17:24.840 because of

00:17:25.700 course in

00:17:26.200 every other

00:17:26.900 time and

00:17:27.840 place in

00:17:28.280 Britain

00:17:28.560 they have

00:17:29.700 no interest

00:17:30.420 in making

00:17:30.880 this a big

00:17:31.360 deal

00:17:31.660 they go out

00:17:32.580 of their

00:17:32.800 way to

00:17:33.680 muffle

00:17:34.680 discussion of

00:17:35.520 it to bury

00:17:36.460 fines and

00:17:37.440 leads on it

00:17:38.020 and say no

00:17:39.020 this is

00:17:39.540 essentially a

00:17:40.160 far right

00:17:40.760 problem

00:17:41.140 let's give it

00:17:41.900 the stink of

00:17:42.540 the far right

00:17:43.140 it's not

00:17:43.720 talked about

00:17:44.220 in the

00:17:44.400 Westminster

00:17:44.720 dinner party

00:17:46.240 circuit

00:17:46.660 and therefore

00:17:47.640 it's low

00:17:48.460 class and

00:17:49.040 racist

00:17:49.440 and we

00:17:50.120 don't want

00:17:50.340 to touch

00:17:50.680 it

00:17:50.840 well Elon

00:17:51.520 Musk is

00:17:51.900 just too

00:17:52.220 big for

00:17:52.560 them to

00:17:52.860 silence

00:17:53.240 he is

00:17:54.060 just too

00:17:54.820 much

00:17:55.260 he is

00:17:56.020 too

00:17:56.540 dominant

00:17:56.960 on social

00:17:57.680 media

00:17:58.040 you can't

00:17:59.080 have 200

00:17:59.520 million followers

00:18:00.420 and think

00:18:01.320 that the

00:18:01.600 British

00:18:01.800 government

00:18:02.260 is going

00:18:02.700 to be able

00:18:03.000 to silence

00:18:03.520 that

00:18:03.760 and so he

00:18:05.240 has managed

00:18:05.580 to drive

00:18:06.160 this right

00:18:06.800 into the

00:18:07.140 very centre

00:18:07.640 of our

00:18:07.960 political

00:18:08.240 discourse

00:18:08.700 which is

00:18:09.120 superb

00:18:09.500 so the

00:18:10.320 Conservatives

00:18:10.960 who had

00:18:11.580 14 years

00:18:12.520 to do

00:18:12.860 anything

00:18:13.180 about this

00:18:13.780 up until

00:18:14.520 six months

00:18:15.060 ago by the

00:18:15.560 way

00:18:15.780 are

00:18:16.700 opportunistically

00:18:17.640 leaping

00:18:18.440 on the

00:18:18.760 bandwagon

00:18:19.360 the Conservatives

00:18:22.160 actually are

00:18:22.960 leaping on

00:18:23.360 the bandwagon

00:18:23.840 although they

00:18:24.380 did do some

00:18:25.080 small things

00:18:25.900 to try and

00:18:26.960 resolve this

00:18:27.960 problem

00:18:28.300 Swella

00:18:29.040 Braverman

00:18:29.420 under Rishi

00:18:29.900 Sennak

00:18:30.180 in 2023

00:18:30.820 actually did

00:18:31.540 begin a

00:18:32.440 kind of

00:18:32.680 campaign

00:18:33.200 of enforcing

00:18:35.440 with local

00:18:36.200 police

00:18:36.560 authorities

00:18:37.120 some of

00:18:38.100 the suggestions

00:18:39.540 made in

00:18:40.360 the inquiries

00:18:41.120 so there

00:18:42.180 you may have

00:18:42.840 noticed that

00:18:43.360 recently in

00:18:43.800 the past

00:18:44.060 two years

00:18:44.540 there have

00:18:45.340 been more

00:18:45.880 ringleaders

00:18:46.720 arrested of

00:18:47.680 these gangs

00:18:48.180 than usual

00:18:48.780 which is

00:18:49.280 superb

00:18:49.820 but they're

00:18:52.040 just the

00:18:52.660 ringleaders

00:18:53.100 these gangs

00:18:53.840 are prostitution

00:18:55.220 gangs

00:18:55.700 and so the

00:18:56.780 question is

00:18:57.220 well who are

00:18:57.920 the customers

00:18:58.440 but anyway

00:18:59.440 getting back

00:19:01.140 to what's

00:19:01.420 happened today

00:19:02.100 Rupert Lowe

00:19:03.940 stood up and

00:19:04.820 gave just an

00:19:05.360 incredible speech

00:19:06.400 and to this

00:19:07.940 the Labour

00:19:08.320 Party had no

00:19:09.100 response other

00:19:09.740 than to try

00:19:10.200 and tone

00:19:10.740 police him

00:19:11.520 and say

00:19:12.180 could you

00:19:12.560 mind your

00:19:12.980 language please

00:19:13.780 that's inflammatory

00:19:14.600 as if somehow

00:19:16.500 the language he

00:19:17.300 used was worse

00:19:18.040 and so on

00:19:19.660 the Conservatives

00:19:20.700 directive

00:19:22.320 initiative

00:19:23.400 to have a

00:19:24.820 national

00:19:25.500 rape gang

00:19:26.640 inquiry

00:19:27.380 the Labour

00:19:29.220 Party

00:19:29.680 the Green

00:19:30.620 Party

00:19:31.060 and the

00:19:32.500 Liberal

00:19:32.840 Democrats

00:19:33.280 and the

00:19:34.400 independent

00:19:35.460 Muslim MPs

00:19:36.840 of whom there

00:19:37.320 are five

00:19:37.920 essentially just

00:19:39.040 Muslims

00:19:39.520 they all voted

00:19:41.100 no

00:19:41.440 it was

00:19:42.760 111 Conservatives

00:19:44.160 and the

00:19:44.500 five

00:19:44.920 Reform

00:19:45.360 MPs

00:19:46.020 who voted

00:19:46.680 yes

00:19:47.080 so we've

00:19:48.400 got quite

00:19:48.960 some way

00:19:49.520 to go

00:19:49.960 but as you

00:19:50.700 can see

00:19:50.900 the left

00:19:51.340 entirely

00:19:52.460 closed their

00:19:53.260 ranks

00:19:53.580 circled their

00:19:54.260 wagons

00:19:54.640 said nope

00:19:55.220 we are not

00:19:56.200 going to give

00:19:56.860 an inch

00:19:57.400 to the right

00:19:58.300 that's what

00:19:59.220 the underpinning

00:19:59.960 frame of this

00:20:00.980 was

00:20:01.260 we will not

00:20:02.000 give anything

00:20:02.760 to the right

00:20:03.680 wing

00:20:04.140 it doesn't

00:20:04.560 matter

00:20:05.020 how bad

00:20:05.840 the injustice

00:20:06.340 is

00:20:06.640 it doesn't

00:20:07.120 matter

00:20:07.400 how many

00:20:07.840 rapists

00:20:08.460 are getting

00:20:08.900 away with

00:20:09.340 it

00:20:09.520 we are

00:20:10.320 not giving

00:20:10.760 ground

00:20:11.200 to the right

00:20:11.940 now I expect

00:20:13.180 that in the

00:20:13.720 coming six

00:20:15.180 months or so

00:20:15.940 the Labour

00:20:16.860 Party under

00:20:17.480 Keir Starmer

00:20:17.860 actually will

00:20:18.780 start cracking

00:20:19.640 down on these

00:20:20.220 gangs

00:20:20.580 I suspect

00:20:21.760 they actually

00:20:22.240 will try

00:20:23.660 and do

00:20:24.000 something

00:20:24.380 because the

00:20:25.200 optics of

00:20:25.880 this have

00:20:26.200 been so

00:20:26.980 unbelievably

00:20:27.760 terrible

00:20:28.240 for the

00:20:28.700 Labour Party

00:20:29.260 this has

00:20:29.980 just been

00:20:30.280 the worst

00:20:31.280 because of

00:20:31.720 course

00:20:31.960 whenever they

00:20:32.940 try to

00:20:33.380 equivocate

00:20:33.980 or obfuscate

00:20:34.860 on this

00:20:35.280 subject

00:20:35.760 all people

00:20:37.620 here

00:20:38.060 and I

00:20:38.700 think

00:20:38.820 very

00:20:39.060 recently

00:20:39.480 is

00:20:40.280 we are

00:20:42.200 kind of

00:20:42.600 making

00:20:42.800 excuses

00:20:43.200 for the

00:20:43.580 rapists

00:20:44.060 and that

00:20:45.740 seems to

00:20:46.100 be

00:20:46.320 basically

00:20:47.020 what

00:20:47.240 comes

00:20:47.460 out

00:20:47.600 because

00:20:47.820 of

00:20:47.980 course

00:20:48.120 the

00:20:48.280 Labour Party

00:20:48.760 is

00:20:48.900 essentially

00:20:49.220 complicit

00:20:49.780 in all

00:20:50.180 of this

00:20:50.520 and it's

00:20:51.500 not just

00:20:51.840 complicit

00:20:52.260 in the

00:20:52.760 direct

00:20:53.160 sense

00:20:53.580 where

00:20:53.880 Labour Party

00:20:54.920 members

00:20:55.540 like

00:20:56.580 councillors

00:20:57.380 social workers

00:20:59.860 Labour run

00:21:00.520 police forces

00:21:01.420 were either

00:21:02.760 putting out

00:21:04.340 cover for

00:21:04.840 the gangs

00:21:05.240 or in

00:21:06.160 some cases

00:21:06.860 involved in

00:21:07.560 the gangs

00:21:07.920 themselves

00:21:08.380 at least

00:21:08.740 two

00:21:09.040 Muslim

00:21:09.380 police

00:21:09.680 officers

00:21:10.080 have been

00:21:10.960 jailed

00:21:11.840 for being

00:21:12.260 involved in

00:21:12.840 the grooming

00:21:13.140 gangs

00:21:13.460 themselves

00:21:14.040 whenever

00:21:15.460 they're not

00:21:15.880 directly

00:21:16.420 involved

00:21:17.020 the Labour

00:21:17.720 Party of course

00:21:18.380 created this

00:21:19.100 climate of fear

00:21:19.920 where you are not

00:21:20.900 supposed to talk

00:21:21.580 about these things

00:21:22.280 because that would

00:21:23.120 make you a racist

00:21:23.840 and so really

00:21:25.020 the entire

00:21:25.700 organisation

00:21:26.580 of the Labour

00:21:27.380 Party

00:21:27.660 and everything

00:21:28.240 under its

00:21:29.200 purview

00:21:29.680 is complicit

00:21:30.980 in the atmosphere

00:21:32.100 of fear

00:21:32.520 regarding these

00:21:33.560 rape gangs

00:21:34.060 and so you

00:21:35.460 can see

00:21:35.800 they have

00:21:36.200 just put

00:21:36.920 up the

00:21:37.160 walls

00:21:37.440 and said

00:21:37.820 no

00:21:38.000 nothing

00:21:39.080 and all

00:21:39.780 of the

00:21:40.000 other

00:21:40.160 left-wing

00:21:40.540 parties

00:21:41.100 the self-admitted

00:21:43.080 left-wing

00:21:43.420 parties

00:21:43.820 like the

00:21:44.520 normally

00:21:44.760 left-wing

00:21:45.160 party

00:21:45.460 the

00:21:45.620 Conservatives

00:21:46.140 have

00:21:46.920 just all

00:21:47.640 closed

00:21:48.020 ranks

00:21:48.280 and said

00:21:48.520 no

00:21:48.860 victories

00:21:49.420 for the

00:21:49.760 right

00:21:50.060 and so

00:21:51.040 they're

00:21:51.340 going to

00:21:51.800 stonewall

00:21:52.180 this

00:21:52.400 as long

00:21:52.680 as they

00:21:52.920 can

00:21:53.160 we hope

00:21:54.440 you're

00:21:54.580 enjoying

00:21:54.840 your Air

00:21:55.200 Canada

00:21:55.520 flight

00:21:55.960 Rocky's

00:21:56.600 vacation

00:21:57.100 here we

00:21:57.860 come

00:21:58.340 whoa

00:21:59.300 is this

00:21:59.960 economy

00:22:00.500 free beer

00:22:01.540 wine

00:22:02.040 and snacks

00:22:02.940 sweet

00:22:04.060 fast free

00:22:05.060 Wi-Fi means

00:22:05.840 I can make

00:22:06.200 dinner reservations

00:22:06.960 before we

00:22:07.800 land

00:22:08.180 and with

00:22:08.940 live TV

00:22:09.660 I'm not

00:22:10.320 missing the

00:22:10.880 game

00:22:11.200 it's kind

00:22:12.040 of like

00:22:12.400 I'm already

00:22:13.260 on vacation

00:22:14.100 nice

00:22:15.520 on behalf

00:22:16.680 of Air

00:22:16.960 Canada

00:22:17.300 nice travels

00:22:18.520 Wi-Fi

00:22:19.440 available to

00:22:19.940 Airplan

00:22:20.260 members

00:22:20.540 on Equipped

00:22:20.860 Flight

00:22:21.040 sponsored by

00:22:21.600 Bell

00:22:21.760 conditions

00:22:22.140 apply

00:22:22.420 see

00:22:22.620 your

00:22:22.720 Canada

00:22:23.020 dot com

00:22:23.600 now what

00:22:24.680 does that

00:22:25.020 do to

00:22:25.520 the political

00:22:25.980 climate

00:22:26.460 in the UK

00:22:27.780 because obviously

00:22:28.960 we know

00:22:29.960 you know

00:22:30.300 there was the

00:22:30.640 whole no seats

00:22:31.500 thing and

00:22:32.640 the Conservative

00:22:33.320 Party got

00:22:34.060 trounced

00:22:34.500 because they

00:22:35.260 were obviously

00:22:36.200 complicit in

00:22:37.260 the mass

00:22:37.860 immigration

00:22:38.400 and so many

00:22:39.000 other things

00:22:39.380 that people

00:22:39.700 did not

00:22:40.180 want

00:22:40.520 and so

00:22:41.440 they kind

00:22:41.920 of got

00:22:42.220 turned out

00:22:43.380 at the

00:22:43.660 ballot box

00:22:44.500 and labor

00:22:44.940 is very

00:22:46.080 strongly in

00:22:46.680 control

00:22:47.100 and then we

00:22:47.680 had this

00:22:48.200 you know

00:22:48.520 riot

00:22:48.860 over

00:22:49.320 you know

00:22:49.600 these riots

00:22:50.140 after

00:22:50.680 you know

00:22:51.720 a knife

00:22:52.020 attack

00:22:52.380 by an

00:22:52.800 immigrant

00:22:53.160 obviously

00:22:54.180 a Muslim

00:22:54.640 convert

00:22:55.040 someone who's

00:22:56.000 radicalized

00:22:56.480 by

00:22:56.740 Al-Qaeda

00:22:57.460 or ISIS

00:22:57.960 right

00:22:59.020 and so

00:22:59.620 this is

00:23:00.240 obviously

00:23:00.700 you know

00:23:01.440 just a

00:23:02.020 represented

00:23:02.940 what has

00:23:03.760 you have

00:23:04.060 pointed out

00:23:04.700 is a

00:23:05.020 decades long

00:23:05.900 struggle

00:23:06.860 with kind

00:23:07.460 of the

00:23:07.740 average

00:23:08.120 British

00:23:08.480 person

00:23:09.040 and their

00:23:09.700 experience

00:23:10.360 with the

00:23:10.960 type of

00:23:11.240 people who

00:23:11.520 are brought

00:23:11.840 into their

00:23:12.820 country

00:23:13.180 but now

00:23:13.920 you're in

00:23:14.280 this moment

00:23:14.860 where you

00:23:15.340 have all

00:23:15.920 of this

00:23:16.360 bubbling

00:23:16.780 under the

00:23:17.180 surface

00:23:17.420 and it

00:23:17.980 keeps coming

00:23:18.740 out

00:23:19.220 and you

00:23:19.740 have all

00:23:20.080 of these

00:23:20.380 events

00:23:20.700 but there's

00:23:21.380 there seems

00:23:21.920 to be no

00:23:22.300 political

00:23:22.860 representation

00:23:23.520 for all

00:23:25.060 of that

00:23:25.460 anger

00:23:25.820 all of

00:23:26.460 that you

00:23:27.160 know

00:23:27.380 disquiet

00:23:28.500 with what's

00:23:29.000 going on

00:23:29.640 how does

00:23:30.360 this end up

00:23:30.800 manifesting

00:23:31.360 do you think

00:23:31.840 that reform

00:23:32.520 or you know

00:23:33.160 the conservatives

00:23:33.640 get much

00:23:34.020 better

00:23:34.380 there's there

00:23:35.200 is there

00:23:35.680 you know

00:23:35.980 I don't know

00:23:36.320 what the

00:23:36.720 political

00:23:37.260 dynamic

00:23:37.840 is involved

00:23:38.520 in this

00:23:38.880 is there

00:23:39.180 any way

00:23:39.660 that the

00:23:40.020 average

00:23:40.280 British

00:23:40.500 person

00:23:40.960 can have

00:23:41.880 an impact

00:23:42.420 after seeing

00:23:43.200 everything

00:23:43.480 that's

00:23:43.700 happened

00:23:43.940 here

00:23:44.200 yeah

00:23:45.040 there is

00:23:45.540 um

00:23:46.020 reform

00:23:47.140 on their

00:23:48.160 own

00:23:48.800 contain

00:23:50.140 reform

00:23:51.120 composed

00:23:51.660 of Nigel

00:23:52.120 Farage

00:23:52.380 and Richard

00:23:52.780 Tice

00:23:53.160 probably

00:23:53.880 wouldn't go

00:23:54.380 very far

00:23:54.880 on this

00:23:55.200 issue

00:23:55.480 you'll notice

00:23:56.660 that Nigel

00:23:57.080 Farage

00:23:57.420 has made

00:23:58.400 statements

00:23:58.820 about it

00:23:59.140 he has

00:23:59.600 tweeted

00:23:59.960 about it

00:24:00.560 he actually

00:24:01.400 attacked him

00:24:02.000 on this

00:24:02.340 right

00:24:02.560 he did

00:24:03.700 indeed

00:24:04.160 he's

00:24:05.720 always been

00:24:06.280 behind the

00:24:06.780 curve

00:24:07.020 on this

00:24:07.360 issue

00:24:07.600 because

00:24:07.920 it's

00:24:08.280 such

00:24:08.540 an

00:24:08.700 unpleasant

00:24:09.060 issue

00:24:09.520 he doesn't

00:24:11.040 want to be

00:24:11.740 associated

00:24:12.380 with the

00:24:12.920 demands

00:24:13.320 for

00:24:13.560 remigration

00:24:14.300 that have

00:24:15.600 been

00:24:15.840 coming to

00:24:16.680 the fore

00:24:17.000 recently

00:24:17.360 and he

00:24:17.700 said in

00:24:18.100 an interview

00:24:18.420 with Stephen

00:24:18.840 Edgington

00:24:19.260 if I were

00:24:20.600 to I think

00:24:20.960 it was Stephen

00:24:21.300 Edgington

00:24:21.580 it might have

00:24:21.920 been the

00:24:22.100 Winston Marshall

00:24:22.740 one

00:24:23.040 where if he

00:24:24.100 would commit

00:24:24.540 to that

00:24:24.880 it would be

00:24:25.400 all people

00:24:26.060 said about

00:24:26.580 him

00:24:26.860 not seeming

00:24:28.240 to understand

00:24:28.740 that that

00:24:29.080 would make

00:24:29.420 him twice

00:24:30.040 as popular

00:24:30.500 as he is

00:24:30.940 now

00:24:31.240 I think

00:24:31.640 he's been

00:24:35.000 behind the

00:24:35.760 curve on it

00:24:36.160 he has

00:24:36.580 tweeted

00:24:36.880 about it

00:24:37.300 he has

00:24:37.600 made videos

00:24:38.120 about it

00:24:38.700 made statements

00:24:39.960 saying look

00:24:40.540 there needs

00:24:41.460 to be

00:24:41.680 a grooming

00:24:41.960 gang

00:24:42.220 inquiry

00:24:42.720 the Labour

00:24:43.400 Party

00:24:43.740 are covering

00:24:44.140 something up

00:24:44.860 which is why

00:24:45.480 they don't

00:24:45.760 want to have

00:24:46.220 one

00:24:46.420 which is

00:24:46.740 obviously

00:24:47.040 true

00:24:47.440 but he

00:24:48.680 he's always

00:24:49.400 been

00:24:49.740 slightly

00:24:50.520 somewhat of

00:24:51.560 a follower

00:24:52.040 on this

00:24:52.560 issue

00:24:52.820 rather than

00:24:53.200 a leader

00:24:53.600 the two

00:24:55.060 people who

00:24:56.060 really come

00:24:56.460 to mind

00:24:56.760 at the moment

00:24:57.120 as leaders

00:24:57.640 on this

00:24:58.020 issue

00:24:58.280 are of course

00:24:59.440 the person

00:25:00.540 who's currently

00:25:01.040 in jail

00:25:01.540 Tommy Robinson

00:25:02.440 but also

00:25:04.160 Richard

00:25:04.560 Rupert Lowe

00:25:05.440 has come out

00:25:06.680 very very

00:25:07.860 powerfully

00:25:08.500 demanding

00:25:09.620 that there

00:25:10.300 be this

00:25:10.820 inquiry

00:25:11.340 and to

00:25:12.160 actually

00:25:12.680 voice

00:25:13.540 the

00:25:14.080 genuine

00:25:15.120 and authentic

00:25:15.960 concerns

00:25:16.820 of the

00:25:17.100 British public

00:25:17.760 in the

00:25:19.080 House of

00:25:19.720 Commons

00:25:20.220 like he

00:25:20.960 is not

00:25:22.980 mincing

00:25:23.720 his words

00:25:24.280 he is not

00:25:24.980 giving

00:25:26.200 rhetorical

00:25:26.920 cover

00:25:27.420 by failing

00:25:28.360 to

00:25:28.780 precisely

00:25:30.520 describe

00:25:31.200 the depths

00:25:32.080 of depravity

00:25:32.780 that have been

00:25:33.180 going on

00:25:33.760 and he's been

00:25:34.720 calling for

00:25:35.360 every single

00:25:36.040 person involved

00:25:36.820 in this

00:25:37.280 not just

00:25:38.200 the people

00:25:38.640 who have

00:25:38.980 been raping

00:25:39.820 and grooming

00:25:40.260 but also

00:25:41.240 the people

00:25:41.720 who knew

00:25:42.220 about it

00:25:42.880 and were

00:25:43.300 covering it

00:25:43.920 up

00:25:44.200 and hiding

00:25:44.860 it

00:25:45.120 and not

00:25:45.500 reporting

00:25:45.920 to the

00:25:46.200 authorities

00:25:46.560 he's calling

00:25:47.440 for every

00:25:48.000 single one

00:25:48.420 of those

00:25:48.680 people

00:25:49.000 so the

00:25:49.680 men

00:25:49.940 their wives

00:25:50.680 their

00:25:50.900 children

00:25:51.220 all to

00:25:52.560 be deported

00:25:53.320 and that

00:25:54.180 is a

00:25:54.500 great

00:25:55.000 start

00:25:55.280 he is

00:25:56.680 genuinely

00:25:57.100 breaking

00:25:57.560 new ground

00:25:58.260 in the

00:25:59.180 scope

00:25:59.620 of the

00:26:00.640 clean up

00:26:01.080 operation

00:26:01.540 that is

00:26:01.860 going to

00:26:02.200 be required

00:26:02.840 to get

00:26:03.780 rid of

00:26:04.220 these

00:26:04.560 people

00:26:04.800 because

00:26:05.060 one thing

00:26:05.500 that I

00:26:05.700 think

00:26:05.860 a lot

00:26:06.160 of people

00:26:06.420 in America

00:26:06.760 think

00:26:07.220 is that

00:26:08.380 most of

00:26:09.240 these areas

00:26:09.980 are majority

00:26:10.700 Muslim

00:26:11.160 which is

00:26:12.340 not true

00:26:12.880 these areas

00:26:14.280 are still

00:26:15.040 majority

00:26:15.540 English

00:26:16.220 Telford

00:26:17.100 for example

00:26:17.820 the Muslim

00:26:19.480 population

00:26:20.200 in Telford

00:26:20.960 I think

00:26:22.540 the population

00:26:23.280 of Telford

00:26:23.600 is about

00:26:23.900 100,000

00:26:24.560 something like

00:26:24.940 that

00:26:25.100 the Muslim

00:26:25.780 population

00:26:26.320 is

00:26:26.620 4,860

00:26:28.940 that's a

00:26:30.620 very small

00:26:31.180 number

00:26:31.540 and the

00:26:32.480 number

00:26:32.820 of

00:26:33.120 victims

00:26:33.840 the

00:26:35.160 white

00:26:35.820 English

00:26:36.120 girls

00:26:36.480 in Telford

00:26:37.040 who have

00:26:37.320 been

00:26:37.500 assaulted

00:26:38.240 and raped

00:26:38.720 and groomed

00:26:39.320 and trafficked

00:26:40.220 is a

00:26:40.940 thousand

00:26:41.540 so that's

00:26:43.680 almost

00:26:44.100 well in fact

00:26:44.720 that's more

00:26:45.420 than

00:26:46.100 that's

00:26:46.660 one

00:26:47.100 English

00:26:47.600 girl

00:26:47.940 for less

00:26:48.840 than

00:26:49.100 every two

00:26:49.840 adult

00:26:50.360 men

00:26:50.800 Muslim

00:26:52.020 men

00:26:52.300 in

00:26:52.460 Telford

00:26:52.840 in

00:26:53.440 Rotherham

00:26:54.300 it's

00:26:54.460 very

00:26:54.660 similar

00:26:55.020 there are

00:26:55.980 only about

00:26:56.660 seven or

00:26:57.160 eight thousand

00:26:57.720 adult men

00:26:58.700 in Rotherham

00:26:59.420 and there

00:26:59.940 are a thousand

00:27:00.420 four hundred

00:27:00.880 victims

00:27:01.340 so you can

00:27:02.780 see that

00:27:03.300 this is a

00:27:04.040 very

00:27:06.160 widespread

00:27:08.260 problem in

00:27:08.960 this community

00:27:09.500 and it's

00:27:10.500 remarkable

00:27:12.000 and this

00:27:12.660 is

00:27:12.980 when you

00:27:14.460 get to

00:27:15.560 the actual

00:27:16.220 number of

00:27:16.700 convictions

00:27:17.060 as well

00:27:17.540 you get

00:27:18.300 numbers

00:27:18.660 something like

00:27:19.160 one in seven

00:27:20.020 in certain

00:27:20.960 areas

00:27:21.340 I think it was

00:27:21.660 Telford

00:27:22.060 that was one

00:27:22.440 in seven

00:27:22.860 there was another

00:27:23.580 one that was

00:27:23.880 one in eleven

00:27:24.600 men in the

00:27:25.840 Muslim community

00:27:26.520 has been

00:27:27.120 convicted of

00:27:28.200 being in a

00:27:28.680 rape gang

00:27:29.160 well we know

00:27:30.620 that there are

00:27:31.040 going to be

00:27:31.380 many more

00:27:31.820 that haven't

00:27:32.240 been convicted

00:27:32.760 because all

00:27:33.720 of these girls

00:27:34.360 will say

00:27:34.900 well I was

00:27:35.660 raped by

00:27:36.220 a hundred

00:27:36.760 men

00:27:37.180 and things like

00:27:38.540 this

00:27:38.640 like a hundred

00:27:39.100 different men

00:27:39.980 and we

00:27:41.460 have their

00:27:42.060 testimony where

00:27:42.700 they say

00:27:43.000 things like

00:27:43.480 well I was

00:27:44.320 captured by

00:27:45.060 this guy

00:27:45.780 and he would

00:27:46.760 call his

00:27:47.160 brothers

00:27:47.540 his cousins

00:27:48.320 his friends

00:27:49.040 and they

00:27:49.720 would all

00:27:50.000 come and

00:27:50.340 rape me

00:27:50.800 and eventually

00:27:52.020 she escaped

00:27:52.520 etc etc

00:27:53.460 and so you

00:27:54.480 realize that

00:27:55.040 there are

00:27:55.660 hundreds of

00:27:56.700 more men

00:27:57.160 in these

00:27:57.720 communities

00:27:58.200 who are

00:28:00.000 not being

00:28:00.820 charged

00:28:01.200 and are

00:28:01.540 just at

00:28:01.940 large now

00:28:02.700 after raping

00:28:03.980 English

00:28:04.500 children

00:28:04.960 and moreover

00:28:06.220 the families

00:28:07.140 know about it

00:28:07.920 the families

00:28:09.040 know that

00:28:10.140 they do this

00:28:10.880 and there was

00:28:11.760 one

00:28:12.200 very recently

00:28:14.440 I can't remember

00:28:14.880 which one it

00:28:15.340 was

00:28:15.540 you'll have

00:28:16.120 to forgive

00:28:16.480 me

00:28:16.640 because this

00:28:17.120 has happened

00:28:17.460 in 50

00:28:17.980 different towns

00:28:18.600 and cities

00:28:19.060 it actually

00:28:19.920 starts blurring

00:28:21.040 into one

00:28:21.520 right

00:28:21.760 you kind of

00:28:22.240 forget

00:28:22.520 in which

00:28:23.360 individual

00:28:24.040 case

00:28:24.680 was it

00:28:25.500 that the

00:28:25.900 men yelled

00:28:26.360 Allah

00:28:26.660 Akbar

00:28:27.040 that was

00:28:27.440 actually in

00:28:27.840 Rochdale

00:28:28.260 where when

00:28:28.800 they were

00:28:29.020 convicted

00:28:29.340 they yelled

00:28:29.760 Allah

00:28:29.980 Akbar

00:28:30.260 I think

00:28:31.380 it was

00:28:31.600 in Oldham

00:28:32.140 where the

00:28:33.420 family of

00:28:34.520 the men

00:28:35.500 who had been

00:28:36.020 raping the

00:28:36.540 children

00:28:36.900 were in the

00:28:38.320 stands watching

00:28:38.900 and he was

00:28:39.380 convicted

00:28:39.800 they led

00:28:40.540 away

00:28:40.720 and his

00:28:41.120 daughters

00:28:41.680 yelled

00:28:42.040 I love

00:28:42.580 you dad

00:28:43.160 from

00:28:43.560 the side

00:28:44.380 it's just

00:28:44.760 like

00:28:45.020 this is

00:28:46.220 mad

00:28:46.860 this is

00:28:47.740 absolutely

00:28:48.420 mad

00:28:48.980 and so

00:28:49.780 the

00:28:50.160 Rupert Lowe

00:28:51.680 has been

00:28:51.940 very firm

00:28:52.440 on this

00:28:52.660 issue

00:28:52.820 going

00:28:53.000 no

00:28:53.120 the people

00:28:54.380 in the

00:28:54.720 community

00:28:55.180 who knew

00:28:55.900 and that's

00:28:56.520 way more

00:28:57.220 than we're

00:28:57.580 admitting

00:28:57.920 that it

00:28:58.300 is

00:28:58.660 they all

00:28:59.540 have to

00:28:59.880 go to

00:29:00.300 yeah

00:29:02.800 there's

00:29:03.400 an incredible

00:29:06.160 failure

00:29:06.760 I guess

00:29:07.540 here

00:29:07.940 on several

00:29:09.460 levels

00:29:09.960 on the

00:29:10.680 ideological

00:29:11.180 one

00:29:11.760 you of

00:29:12.640 course

00:29:12.840 had this

00:29:13.380 idea

00:29:13.860 that

00:29:14.500 multiculturalism

00:29:15.840 was fine

00:29:16.400 because

00:29:16.860 you could

00:29:17.800 just bring

00:29:18.220 people in

00:29:18.900 and everyone

00:29:19.600 would just

00:29:20.660 exist alongside

00:29:21.440 each other

00:29:22.040 these people

00:29:22.520 would just

00:29:23.000 go ahead

00:29:23.500 and assimilate

00:29:24.500 in but of

00:29:25.000 course as you

00:29:25.500 point out

00:29:26.140 they're not

00:29:27.060 only coming

00:29:27.500 from a

00:29:27.880 radically

00:29:28.260 different

00:29:28.800 culture

00:29:29.280 but they're

00:29:30.180 also allowed

00:29:30.720 to exist

00:29:31.200 inside these

00:29:32.100 ethnic ghettos

00:29:32.960 which allows

00:29:33.400 them to

00:29:33.680 perpetuate

00:29:34.160 that culture

00:29:34.700 they don't

00:29:35.480 have to

00:29:36.040 blend in

00:29:36.580 they don't

00:29:36.900 have to

00:29:37.540 learn the

00:29:38.500 ways or

00:29:38.880 customs

00:29:39.220 of the

00:29:39.920 UK

00:29:40.160 they don't

00:29:40.660 need to

00:29:41.080 adapt

00:29:41.500 because they

00:29:42.540 can live

00:29:42.900 their entire

00:29:43.420 lives

00:29:43.940 inside these

00:29:44.920 kind of

00:29:45.220 ethnic

00:29:45.540 conclaves

00:29:46.300 or enclaves

00:29:47.300 and we have

00:29:48.020 unfortunately

00:29:48.880 lesser degrees

00:29:50.340 of that

00:29:50.760 here in the

00:29:51.600 United States

00:29:52.520 but I think

00:29:53.400 a lot of

00:29:54.000 people who

00:29:54.940 listen to

00:29:55.660 this are

00:29:56.280 thinking to

00:29:56.780 themselves

00:29:57.200 where are

00:29:58.160 the dads

00:29:58.840 where are

00:29:59.520 the fathers

00:30:00.100 where are

00:30:00.640 the brothers

00:30:01.160 of these

00:30:02.240 people

00:30:02.680 how could

00:30:03.380 they let

00:30:03.760 this happen

00:30:04.340 and I

00:30:04.880 get that

00:30:05.360 reaction

00:30:05.900 but at

00:30:06.760 the same

00:30:07.140 time

00:30:07.640 these are

00:30:08.160 the same

00:30:08.500 people who

00:30:09.420 let themselves

00:30:10.420 get locked

00:30:10.960 inside during

00:30:11.760 COVID even

00:30:12.740 though we

00:30:13.480 have the

00:30:13.840 second amendment

00:30:14.280 let me

00:30:14.760 interrupt you

00:30:15.280 again sorry

00:30:15.900 so two

00:30:17.180 things on

00:30:17.620 this the

00:30:18.180 first one

00:30:18.540 is most

00:30:19.640 communities

00:30:20.260 in Britain

00:30:20.660 don't do

00:30:21.100 this right

00:30:21.740 most of the

00:30:22.320 foreign

00:30:22.600 communities

00:30:23.080 in Britain

00:30:23.400 now there's

00:30:23.960 a different

00:30:24.320 issue with

00:30:24.900 just the

00:30:25.660 sheer number

00:30:26.400 of people

00:30:27.000 who have

00:30:27.320 come to

00:30:27.820 Britain

00:30:28.100 which is

00:30:28.880 displacing the

00:30:29.820 native English

00:30:30.320 from their own

00:30:30.820 cities

00:30:31.140 that's a

00:30:32.320 different issue

00:30:32.980 but most of

00:30:34.000 the other

00:30:34.240 communities

00:30:34.720 the Indians

00:30:35.980 the Chinese

00:30:37.120 the Africans

00:30:38.240 they don't form

00:30:39.780 grooming gangs

00:30:40.700 like this

00:30:41.460 this seems to be

00:30:42.280 a specifically

00:30:43.360 Islamic phenomenon

00:30:45.600 actually

00:30:46.660 so I don't want

00:30:49.120 all of the

00:30:50.100 migrant communities

00:30:50.780 to be tarred

00:30:51.260 with the same

00:30:51.600 brush on this

00:30:52.240 this is a

00:30:53.240 peculiar evil

00:30:54.440 to one

00:30:55.200 kind of

00:30:55.700 community

00:30:56.240 most of

00:30:57.240 the others

00:30:57.580 I mean

00:30:57.980 you know

00:30:58.520 again

00:30:59.580 demographic

00:31:00.340 issues aside

00:31:01.460 most of

00:31:02.360 the others

00:31:02.620 are not

00:31:03.140 predatory

00:31:04.960 most of

00:31:05.640 the others

00:31:05.860 are completely

00:31:06.800 fine

00:31:07.240 like no one

00:31:08.080 has a personal

00:31:08.880 objection to

00:31:09.540 like the

00:31:09.780 Nepalese

00:31:10.240 community

00:31:10.740 or the

00:31:11.940 Chinese

00:31:12.700 community

00:31:13.120 or something

00:31:13.420 like this

00:31:13.740 you know

00:31:13.940 they're all

00:31:14.740 perfectly

00:31:16.020 reasonable

00:31:16.740 people to

00:31:17.220 have around

00:31:17.700 the second

00:31:19.460 point is

00:31:19.880 where are

00:31:20.160 the fathers

00:31:20.580 where are

00:31:20.920 the dads

00:31:21.300 well that's

00:31:21.880 what the

00:31:22.100 EDL was

00:31:22.860 they get

00:31:23.900 arrested

00:31:24.360 they get

00:31:25.240 arrested

00:31:25.740 by the

00:31:26.320 police

00:31:26.700 there are

00:31:27.680 so many

00:31:28.340 cases

00:31:28.820 and you'll

00:31:29.360 be easily

00:31:30.420 able to

00:31:30.940 find this

00:31:31.400 if you just

00:31:32.220 search rape

00:31:32.840 gang dad

00:31:33.720 on twitter

00:31:34.380 you'll find

00:31:35.260 what happens

00:31:35.780 to the dads

00:31:36.280 is that the

00:31:37.340 dads will go

00:31:38.260 to the houses

00:31:38.900 where the

00:31:39.620 Muslim and

00:31:40.060 the adult

00:31:40.500 Muslim men

00:31:41.080 have a

00:31:41.920 13 year old

00:31:42.600 or something

00:31:42.880 like that

00:31:43.240 to get her

00:31:44.120 out

00:31:44.440 and they

00:31:45.300 will call

00:31:45.820 the police

00:31:46.480 and the

00:31:46.960 police will

00:31:47.380 arrest

00:31:47.700 the father

00:31:48.180 this happened

00:31:49.560 over and

00:31:50.320 over again

00:31:51.120 and the

00:31:52.320 working men

00:31:53.000 were beaten

00:31:53.900 down

00:31:54.520 they were

00:31:55.940 suddenly

00:31:56.360 oh it's

00:31:57.780 us against

00:31:58.500 the Muslims

00:31:59.020 and the

00:31:59.920 police

00:32:00.380 the police

00:32:01.500 are on

00:32:01.840 their side

00:32:02.560 and we

00:32:03.380 have no

00:32:04.160 sympathy

00:32:04.980 or grace

00:32:05.760 from the

00:32:06.400 state

00:32:06.740 and I

00:32:07.860 mean the

00:32:08.140 police's

00:32:08.520 attitude

00:32:08.940 towards these

00:32:09.700 girls was

00:32:10.140 just shocking

00:32:10.880 absolutely

00:32:11.880 shocking

00:32:12.420 they would

00:32:13.360 essentially

00:32:13.720 criminalize

00:32:14.280 the girls

00:32:14.720 treat them

00:32:15.140 like and

00:32:15.540 they would

00:32:15.800 call them

00:32:16.040 quote unquote

00:32:16.480 child

00:32:17.140 prostitutes

00:32:18.020 of course

00:32:18.720 there's no

00:32:18.980 such thing

00:32:19.420 as a child

00:32:19.840 prostitute

00:32:20.440 what you

00:32:21.020 have is a

00:32:21.380 rape victim

00:32:21.840 they would

00:32:23.520 treat them

00:32:24.040 as if they

00:32:24.660 were doing

00:32:25.440 something wrong

00:32:26.400 to the Muslim

00:32:27.100 community

00:32:27.640 and the Muslim

00:32:28.100 community was

00:32:28.620 the victim

00:32:29.140 of these

00:32:30.260 girls

00:32:30.780 and so you

00:32:32.340 would get it

00:32:32.980 over and over

00:32:33.420 and over

00:32:33.680 where the police

00:32:34.120 would either

00:32:34.360 just turn a

00:32:34.920 blind eye

00:32:35.660 or just

00:32:37.000 actively protect

00:32:38.020 them from

00:32:39.020 their own

00:32:39.520 from the

00:32:40.000 families of

00:32:40.560 these girls

00:32:41.060 and so

00:32:42.300 that has

00:32:43.100 I think

00:32:43.520 created a

00:32:44.300 great deal

00:32:45.440 of demoralization

00:32:46.460 in the

00:32:47.520 working class

00:32:48.100 English

00:32:48.480 and I

00:32:49.820 think that

00:32:50.380 they don't

00:32:50.920 have anyone

00:32:51.740 they can

00:32:52.200 rely on

00:32:52.840 and the

00:32:53.620 structures

00:32:53.980 of the

00:32:54.400 state

00:32:54.900 prevent them

00:32:56.260 from getting

00:32:57.020 involved

00:32:57.560 they literally

00:32:58.380 lock them

00:32:58.940 up

00:32:59.180 so this

00:33:00.960 is what

00:33:01.400 really I

00:33:01.920 think was

00:33:02.540 the energy

00:33:03.120 underneath

00:33:03.480 the Southport

00:33:04.060 riots

00:33:04.460 something terrible

00:33:06.020 happened

00:33:06.420 it wasn't

00:33:07.060 clear at the

00:33:07.520 time that it

00:33:08.060 was a Muslim

00:33:08.560 attack

00:33:09.040 and yet

00:33:09.860 people went

00:33:10.400 ballistic at

00:33:11.280 Muslims

00:33:11.940 because this

00:33:13.180 has been

00:33:13.760 a very

00:33:15.780 deep wound

00:33:17.120 that is

00:33:17.920 scarring our

00:33:18.480 country and

00:33:18.900 has done for

00:33:19.420 many many

00:33:19.780 years and

00:33:20.560 they have

00:33:21.320 no sucker

00:33:22.600 on it

00:33:23.300 and you'll

00:33:23.880 notice the

00:33:24.200 first thing

00:33:24.620 that Keir Starmer

00:33:25.180 did for that

00:33:25.800 was come out

00:33:26.540 and declare

00:33:26.900 30 million

00:33:27.580 pounds defense

00:33:28.400 for mosques

00:33:29.120 which really

00:33:30.360 must have

00:33:30.880 resolved the

00:33:32.520 issue to

00:33:33.240 everyone's

00:33:33.580 satisfaction

00:33:34.120 where did

00:33:36.820 the obsession

00:33:38.100 with needing

00:33:40.340 to be

00:33:40.620 multicultural

00:33:41.260 needing to

00:33:42.420 be so

00:33:43.160 incredibly

00:33:43.740 worried about

00:33:44.820 being called

00:33:45.420 racist where

00:33:46.220 you would

00:33:46.940 lock people

00:33:48.620 up for

00:33:49.300 defending their

00:33:49.860 own children

00:33:50.440 how did

00:33:51.140 this seep

00:33:51.560 into the

00:33:51.900 system

00:33:52.220 is this

00:33:52.600 from

00:33:53.200 Britain

00:33:54.300 did the

00:33:54.660 ruling class

00:33:55.060 learn it

00:33:55.480 somewhere else

00:33:56.240 has this

00:33:56.940 always been

00:33:57.380 a feature

00:33:57.760 of British

00:33:58.620 approach

00:33:59.960 how did

00:34:00.980 this come

00:34:01.360 into play

00:34:01.780 so it

00:34:04.380 begins with

00:34:05.120 a kind

00:34:06.700 of proto

00:34:07.520 version

00:34:08.080 of woke

00:34:09.040 ideology

00:34:09.640 the sort

00:34:10.920 of global

00:34:11.380 international

00:34:11.980 liberal order

00:34:12.940 that was being

00:34:13.940 constructed in

00:34:14.900 the late 90s

00:34:15.860 with the sort

00:34:16.280 of Clinton

00:34:16.860 slash Tony

00:34:18.180 Blair era

00:34:18.820 and this

00:34:20.540 carried on

00:34:21.180 into the

00:34:21.560 Obama era

00:34:22.260 this ideology

00:34:23.820 that seems

00:34:25.960 to have just

00:34:26.460 captured

00:34:26.960 my entire

00:34:28.740 country

00:34:29.240 and your

00:34:29.840 left wing

00:34:30.520 the Democrats

00:34:31.660 in particular

00:34:32.180 obviously

00:34:32.480 so

00:34:33.320 it's hard

00:34:36.840 to say

00:34:37.500 the

00:34:38.580 I don't

00:34:44.740 want to

00:34:44.980 commit to

00:34:45.300 anything

00:34:45.540 that I

00:34:45.800 can't

00:34:46.200 specifically

00:34:46.780 prove

00:34:47.460 right

00:34:47.960 so

00:34:48.540 I know

00:34:50.140 that everyone

00:34:50.460 will say

00:34:50.740 well this

00:34:51.080 is critical

00:34:51.500 race theory

00:34:52.000 or woke

00:34:52.400 isn't

00:34:52.680 it's like

00:34:53.280 kind of

00:34:54.080 but not

00:34:54.480 quite

00:34:54.940 there's a

00:34:57.140 kind of

00:34:57.460 set of

00:34:57.780 liberal

00:34:58.080 presuppositions

00:34:59.020 that underpin

00:34:59.660 this

00:35:00.040 that became

00:35:01.060 very easy

00:35:02.000 to believe

00:35:03.000 when you're

00:35:04.440 in a very

00:35:04.920 homogenous

00:35:05.620 high trust

00:35:06.120 society

00:35:06.660 essentially

00:35:07.540 well everyone's

00:35:08.140 just like us

00:35:08.860 and the

00:35:09.960 small number

00:35:10.600 of immigrants

00:35:11.100 who are in

00:35:11.540 the society

00:35:12.120 are forced

00:35:13.420 to integrate

00:35:13.820 and so they

00:35:14.160 become just

00:35:14.900 like us

00:35:15.520 and so

00:35:17.100 well surely

00:35:18.580 that is just

00:35:19.120 reflective of the

00:35:19.820 entire world

00:35:20.500 and that

00:35:21.920 that is

00:35:22.480 something that

00:35:23.000 came out of

00:35:23.680 I think just

00:35:24.180 90s western

00:35:25.220 liberalism

00:35:26.100 I don't

00:35:26.860 think this

00:35:27.220 was a

00:35:27.480 particular

00:35:27.920 attack by

00:35:29.180 Marxists

00:35:30.100 or anything

00:35:30.400 like this

00:35:30.860 in academia

00:35:31.420 that came

00:35:32.500 later

00:35:32.800 now critical

00:35:33.680 race theory

00:35:34.040 was bubbling

00:35:34.820 away in

00:35:35.200 academia

00:35:35.640 concurrently

00:35:36.320 to this

00:35:36.740 but it

00:35:37.320 wasn't

00:35:37.620 influential

00:35:38.120 and it

00:35:38.600 didn't have

00:35:38.960 a direct

00:35:39.420 impact

00:35:40.060 or influence

00:35:41.080 on this

00:35:42.280 kind of

00:35:42.580 culture

00:35:42.800 this was

00:35:43.240 just a

00:35:43.800 kind of

00:35:44.240 well-meaning

00:35:45.440 again just

00:35:46.560 liberal

00:35:47.260 world view

00:35:48.600 moving into

00:35:49.540 the 2000s

00:35:50.620 and you

00:35:52.120 have quite

00:35:53.340 open

00:35:55.240 cultures

00:35:56.320 quite an

00:35:57.060 open

00:35:57.300 popular

00:35:57.800 culture

00:35:58.200 that

00:35:58.500 finds

00:36:00.120 that there's

00:36:00.740 no argument

00:36:01.500 for racism

00:36:02.900 and therefore

00:36:04.160 it

00:36:05.240 becomes easy

00:36:07.480 to say

00:36:07.960 that racism

00:36:08.700 is in all

00:36:10.020 circumstances

00:36:10.580 and all

00:36:10.840 times

00:36:11.140 the worst

00:36:12.320 evil

00:36:12.800 possible

00:36:13.380 now I'm

00:36:14.280 obviously not

00:36:14.640 in favour

00:36:15.140 of racism

00:36:15.760 but it's not

00:36:16.800 the worst

00:36:17.240 thing that a

00:36:17.660 person can

00:36:18.120 do

00:36:18.480 and when

00:36:19.300 you're living

00:36:19.700 in a mostly

00:36:20.820 white English

00:36:21.860 country

00:36:22.380 where people

00:36:23.600 have no

00:36:24.800 pressure

00:36:25.360 to worry

00:36:26.600 about minority

00:36:27.480 concerns

00:36:28.180 then racism

00:36:30.000 as a luxury

00:36:30.880 belief

00:36:31.180 and anti-racism

00:36:32.240 as a luxury

00:36:32.740 belief

00:36:33.140 well it's

00:36:34.380 quite plausible

00:36:34.980 and why would

00:36:35.600 you want to

00:36:36.060 be racist

00:36:36.480 there's no

00:36:36.920 reason to

00:36:37.500 be

00:36:37.620 and you know

00:36:38.140 everyone might

00:36:38.560 have known

00:36:38.980 like an

00:36:39.680 Indian family

00:36:40.480 or a black

00:36:40.980 family or

00:36:41.440 something

00:36:41.660 you know

00:36:42.160 because the

00:36:42.980 number of

00:36:43.320 immigrants in

00:36:43.880 England was

00:36:44.360 actually really

00:36:44.960 quite low

00:36:45.520 and so why

00:36:46.660 would you want

00:36:47.140 to be mean

00:36:47.580 to them

00:36:47.980 because of

00:36:48.580 course being

00:36:49.320 in small

00:36:49.920 number

00:36:50.100 they had

00:36:50.420 to integrate

00:36:50.800 so there

00:36:51.700 was no

00:36:52.280 argument in

00:36:53.340 favour of a

00:36:53.880 kind of

00:36:54.160 in-group

00:36:54.560 bias

00:36:54.960 it was

00:36:55.460 unfair

00:36:55.920 and it

00:36:56.200 was unfair

00:36:56.900 you know

00:36:57.300 it would have

00:36:57.680 been unfair

00:36:58.080 to just

00:36:58.980 arbitrarily treat

00:37:00.120 this one

00:37:00.880 immigrant family

00:37:01.620 as lepers

00:37:02.760 or something

00:37:03.280 just because

00:37:03.700 of their

00:37:03.860 immigrants

00:37:04.020 that's a

00:37:04.500 very horrible

00:37:05.000 thing to do

00:37:05.540 but this

00:37:07.520 becomes an

00:37:09.360 unquestionable

00:37:10.080 moral dictum

00:37:11.260 where there's

00:37:12.540 never any

00:37:13.620 reason to

00:37:14.520 worry about

00:37:14.900 anything

00:37:15.220 regardless of

00:37:16.100 what is being

00:37:16.600 done

00:37:16.980 and at

00:37:18.500 this point

00:37:18.940 I mean

00:37:19.140 no one's

00:37:19.580 like no one's

00:37:20.380 for racism

00:37:21.240 but the

00:37:22.600 idea that

00:37:23.360 racism is

00:37:24.160 the worst

00:37:24.740 thing

00:37:25.120 is just

00:37:26.200 obviously not

00:37:27.000 correct

00:37:27.420 and this has

00:37:28.500 been shown

00:37:28.980 in the rape

00:37:29.840 gangs

00:37:30.200 because the

00:37:31.200 obviously the

00:37:31.760 main charge

00:37:32.520 against everyone

00:37:33.520 who has been

00:37:34.460 saying I think

00:37:35.440 there might be a

00:37:35.920 problem with the

00:37:36.260 Pakistani community

00:37:37.120 when it comes

00:37:37.720 to these rape

00:37:38.360 gangs

00:37:38.680 it's something

00:37:39.200 they do a lot

00:37:39.780 well that is

00:37:41.220 race-ist

00:37:42.500 as in that is

00:37:43.400 applying it to

00:37:44.120 a particular

00:37:44.560 group

00:37:44.920 and so

00:37:46.000 the Tommy

00:37:47.540 Robinsons of

00:37:48.300 the world

00:37:48.620 are created

00:37:49.220 through this

00:37:50.040 kind of

00:37:50.900 machination

00:37:51.700 and now we

00:37:52.920 have to decide

00:37:53.820 well which one

00:37:54.440 was worse

00:37:55.160 and actually I

00:37:56.260 think Norm

00:37:57.340 McDonald style

00:37:58.080 the raping was

00:37:58.800 worse actually

00:37:59.560 I think that's

00:38:00.000 the worst part

00:38:00.580 yeah there's an

00:38:02.640 interesting dynamic

00:38:03.560 here like you

00:38:04.480 pointed out with

00:38:05.080 class because

00:38:06.320 you know the

00:38:07.360 United States

00:38:07.940 doesn't have

00:38:08.680 quite as hard

00:38:09.700 a distinction

00:38:10.300 but we have a

00:38:11.620 similar scenario

00:38:12.340 where our south

00:38:13.240 is like your

00:38:13.880 north right

00:38:14.640 the southeast

00:38:15.360 in the United

00:38:16.020 States is

00:38:16.700 everybody gets

00:38:18.720 their you know

00:38:20.080 credibility by

00:38:21.100 insulting you

00:38:22.040 know white

00:38:22.360 working class

00:38:22.940 people from

00:38:23.660 the south

00:38:25.160 in the United

00:38:25.680 States

00:38:25.920 or from

00:38:26.200 Appalachia

00:38:26.840 yeah yeah

00:38:27.740 yeah even

00:38:28.420 right wingers

00:38:31.320 even you know

00:38:32.300 cosmopolitan

00:38:32.860 right wingers

00:38:33.400 will do it

00:38:34.140 just to signal

00:38:35.360 themselves as

00:38:36.220 being you know

00:38:37.100 superior

00:38:37.500 and our

00:38:39.740 immigration problem

00:38:40.760 tended to be

00:38:41.940 centered

00:38:42.480 specifically on

00:38:43.680 our border

00:38:44.120 states

00:38:44.620 for the most

00:38:45.420 part which

00:38:45.880 were conservative

00:38:46.860 red states

00:38:47.980 you know they

00:38:48.500 were you know

00:38:49.500 Florida and

00:38:50.560 Texas and these

00:38:51.620 kind of states

00:38:52.240 and so it

00:38:53.160 wasn't really a

00:38:53.820 problem for the

00:38:54.940 rest of the

00:38:55.740 country sure

00:38:56.340 Venezuelans might

00:38:57.120 be taking over

00:38:57.740 apartment complexes

00:38:58.620 but they're not

00:38:59.840 the apartment

00:39:00.440 complexes for

00:39:01.120 anyone that

00:39:01.460 matters so it

00:39:02.120 must just be

00:39:02.740 that those guys

00:39:03.220 are racist

00:39:04.020 all the people

00:39:04.600 in the south

00:39:05.120 who are having

00:39:05.620 to actually deal

00:39:06.320 with the problem

00:39:06.820 are racist

00:39:07.320 and one of the

00:39:09.380 things that being

00:39:10.460 in the lower

00:39:11.120 class lets you

00:39:12.080 do ironically

00:39:12.880 is be cut

00:39:14.120 off from the

00:39:15.320 propaganda

00:39:15.860 not that there

00:39:17.340 aren't people

00:39:17.860 who are

00:39:18.160 propagandized

00:39:18.960 in our area

00:39:19.620 but you

00:39:20.660 because you

00:39:21.600 are not in

00:39:22.280 the realm

00:39:23.240 of influence

00:39:23.820 you're not

00:39:24.200 even worth

00:39:25.100 propagandizing

00:39:26.580 you're below

00:39:27.260 you're below

00:39:28.580 the efforts

00:39:29.300 of those

00:39:29.800 who are doing

00:39:30.460 it you're not

00:39:30.860 plugged into

00:39:31.360 the same

00:39:31.700 institutions

00:39:32.280 and so you

00:39:33.140 can continue

00:39:33.720 to hold

00:39:34.340 beliefs that

00:39:35.200 are unpopular

00:39:36.140 you're kind

00:39:36.660 of you know

00:39:37.920 you're exiled

00:39:38.720 but you're

00:39:39.100 also quarantined

00:39:40.680 away from

00:39:41.540 you know

00:39:41.880 some of this

00:39:42.560 contagion

00:39:43.620 and so I

00:39:44.560 wonder you

00:39:45.320 know is there

00:39:46.600 any dynamic

00:39:47.480 because in the

00:39:48.360 United States

00:39:48.780 one of the

00:39:49.040 things that

00:39:49.360 big you know

00:39:50.140 really changed

00:39:50.780 things was

00:39:51.820 actually you

00:39:52.700 know funny

00:39:52.980 enough a lot

00:39:53.340 of people

00:39:53.640 were very

00:39:54.400 against this

00:39:54.900 when it first

00:39:55.280 started but

00:39:56.080 you had

00:39:56.500 Greg Abbott

00:39:57.040 of Texas

00:39:57.520 and Ron

00:39:58.080 DeSantis

00:39:58.320 of Florida

00:39:58.800 and they

00:39:59.220 just started

00:39:59.640 busing the

00:40:00.560 migrants up

00:40:01.600 to you know

00:40:02.380 the places

00:40:02.920 Martha's Vineyard

00:40:04.140 and places

00:40:04.580 where

00:40:04.840 right right

00:40:07.120 like you know

00:40:07.980 the people

00:40:08.540 who were

00:40:09.000 making these

00:40:09.720 decisions

00:40:10.040 were actually

00:40:10.500 going to be

00:40:10.920 affected by

00:40:11.600 these decisions

00:40:12.280 and you know

00:40:13.400 you had

00:40:13.840 the wildly

00:40:15.060 left-wing

00:40:15.600 mayor of New

00:40:16.140 York saying

00:40:16.480 we gotta stop

00:40:17.140 this immigration

00:40:17.740 stuff because

00:40:18.740 it was actually

00:40:19.700 impacting him

00:40:20.400 now is

00:40:21.260 is there any

00:40:22.100 sense in which

00:40:23.500 that dynamic

00:40:24.460 could be flipping

00:40:25.140 obviously you

00:40:25.720 don't want to

00:40:26.400 ship rapists

00:40:27.300 into different

00:40:28.120 parts of the

00:40:28.940 UK but but a

00:40:30.040 way in which

00:40:30.660 that you can

00:40:31.120 kind of break

00:40:31.740 through that

00:40:32.540 that class

00:40:33.260 barrier divide

00:40:34.200 that's making

00:40:35.120 it very difficult

00:40:35.780 for them to

00:40:36.360 address this

00:40:37.000 option instead

00:40:37.760 they're just

00:40:38.080 doubling down

00:40:38.880 on protecting

00:40:39.520 these gangs

00:40:40.220 when does fast

00:40:42.680 grocery delivery

00:40:43.520 through Instacart

00:40:44.300 matter most

00:40:45.020 when your famous

00:40:46.040 grainy mustard

00:40:46.780 potato salad

00:40:47.580 isn't so famous

00:40:48.560 without the

00:40:49.040 grainy mustard

00:40:49.660 when the barbecue

00:40:50.760 is lit but

00:40:51.500 there's nothing

00:40:51.920 to grill

00:40:52.440 when the in-laws

00:40:53.520 decide that

00:40:54.180 actually they

00:40:55.140 will stay for

00:40:55.780 dinner

00:40:56.100 Instacart has

00:40:57.140 all your groceries

00:40:57.920 covered this

00:40:58.480 summer so

00:40:59.240 download the app

00:41:00.060 and get delivery

00:41:00.800 in as fast as

00:41:01.660 60 minutes

00:41:02.400 plus enjoy

00:41:03.280 zero dollar

00:41:03.920 delivery fees

00:41:04.640 on your first

00:41:05.240 three orders

00:41:06.020 service fees

00:41:06.840 exclusions and

00:41:07.600 terms apply

00:41:08.280 Instacart

00:41:09.200 groceries that

00:41:10.300 over deliver

00:41:10.960 I don't think

00:41:14.100 that there will

00:41:15.560 be a tremendous

00:41:16.560 amount of sympathy

00:41:17.540 from the middle

00:41:18.220 class towards the

00:41:19.000 working class

00:41:19.700 because the

00:41:22.280 working class

00:41:22.860 used to be the

00:41:23.440 majority of people

00:41:24.100 in this country

00:41:24.700 used to be

00:41:25.340 something like

00:41:25.660 60% of the

00:41:27.160 country was

00:41:27.560 working class

00:41:28.120 we go back

00:41:28.480 like 100 years

00:41:29.380 and now it's

00:41:31.400 about 30%

00:41:32.180 of the country

00:41:32.960 that work

00:41:33.320 in class

00:41:33.800 and through

00:41:35.060 the 80s

00:41:36.080 and 90s

00:41:36.940 a large number

00:41:38.520 of working

00:41:39.580 class people

00:41:40.260 worked their

00:41:40.820 way into

00:41:41.500 the middle

00:41:41.840 class

00:41:42.280 my family is

00:41:43.460 actually an

00:41:43.860 example of

00:41:44.380 this

00:41:44.540 the reason I

00:41:45.040 have such

00:41:45.880 a neutral

00:41:46.560 accent

00:41:47.180 is because

00:41:47.940 my father

00:41:48.620 began

00:41:49.480 very working

00:41:50.560 class

00:41:51.060 joined the

00:41:51.900 military

00:41:52.180 and I got

00:41:53.020 to have a

00:41:53.520 lower middle

00:41:53.860 class

00:41:54.180 upbringing

00:41:54.600 a large

00:41:57.000 number of

00:41:57.360 people did

00:41:58.440 that

00:41:58.700 and one

00:41:59.540 of the

00:41:59.860 things that

00:42:00.500 the middle

00:42:00.820 class fears

00:42:01.760 about the

00:42:02.420 working class

00:42:03.120 is a return

00:42:04.980 to their

00:42:05.480 state

00:42:06.080 a return

00:42:06.620 to the

00:42:06.960 status

00:42:07.340 of being

00:42:08.160 the working

00:42:09.000 class

00:42:09.500 as far as

00:42:10.560 they're concerned

00:42:11.020 they've worked

00:42:11.480 their way out

00:42:12.020 of that

00:42:12.700 benighted

00:42:13.440 position

00:42:13.920 and so

00:42:15.620 they

00:42:15.980 naturally

00:42:16.980 inherit

00:42:17.760 a contempt

00:42:18.880 for the

00:42:19.580 working class

00:42:20.260 the sort

00:42:21.080 of

00:42:21.380 the middle

00:42:23.380 class in

00:42:23.780 this country

00:42:24.060 has layers

00:42:24.640 to it

00:42:25.020 as well

00:42:25.500 but the

00:42:26.940 upper middle

00:42:27.700 class

00:42:28.040 and the

00:42:28.280 lower middle

00:42:28.600 class

00:42:29.000 unite

00:42:30.120 together

00:42:30.680 against

00:42:31.920 the working

00:42:32.560 class

00:42:32.920 who they

00:42:33.740 feel are

00:42:34.600 backwards

00:42:35.280 parochial

00:42:36.120 racist

00:42:37.200 neanderthals

00:42:39.160 in the same

00:42:39.640 way that

00:42:40.040 the deplorables

00:42:41.420 in America

00:42:41.900 it's the same

00:42:42.560 attitude towards

00:42:43.540 them

00:42:43.840 weirdly

00:42:44.680 I've had

00:42:45.500 nothing but

00:42:46.080 good interactions

00:42:46.900 with aristocrats

00:42:48.120 who I guess

00:42:49.320 do still feel

00:42:50.340 a little bit

00:42:50.780 of that

00:42:51.040 noblesse

00:42:51.540 obligee

00:42:52.100 in their

00:42:53.380 hearts

00:42:53.640 and the

00:42:54.000 British

00:42:54.560 aristocracy

00:42:55.200 was always

00:42:55.700 more willing

00:42:56.120 to bend

00:42:56.820 towards the

00:42:58.120 concern of

00:42:58.820 the masses

00:42:59.260 than other

00:43:00.320 aristocracies

00:43:00.920 which is why

00:43:01.420 we still have

00:43:01.940 one

00:43:02.160 and actually

00:43:03.040 everyone that

00:43:05.760 I've met

00:43:06.240 and I've met

00:43:06.700 quite a few

00:43:07.040 of them

00:43:07.220 they're pretty

00:43:07.840 good fellows

00:43:08.380 actually

00:43:08.980 way better

00:43:10.440 than the

00:43:10.780 average

00:43:11.040 shitlib

00:43:11.520 I loathe

00:43:13.600 the middle

00:43:14.100 class

00:43:14.440 but I

00:43:14.720 actually quite

00:43:15.100 like the

00:43:15.420 aristocracy

00:43:15.880 I actually

00:43:16.460 quite like

00:43:16.840 the working

00:43:17.200 class

00:43:17.600 so maybe

00:43:19.260 there could

00:43:19.800 be some

00:43:20.080 sort of

00:43:20.300 high low

00:43:20.660 alliance

00:43:21.160 against them

00:43:21.600 at some

00:43:21.860 point

00:43:22.140 but I

00:43:23.620 don't see

00:43:24.440 how you

00:43:25.120 could ever

00:43:25.580 get the

00:43:25.940 middle class

00:43:26.440 to be

00:43:26.720 sympathetic

00:43:27.100 to the

00:43:28.140 working class

00:43:28.760 and if you

00:43:29.680 you look at

00:43:30.240 the parties

00:43:30.820 you can see

00:43:31.460 very very

00:43:32.420 sharp

00:43:33.040 class

00:43:33.700 delineations

00:43:34.380 so the

00:43:35.440 Labour Party

00:43:35.980 used to be

00:43:36.520 the working

00:43:36.940 man's party

00:43:37.640 obviously

00:43:38.060 it's in the

00:43:38.560 name

00:43:38.760 Labour

00:43:39.180 Tony Blair

00:43:40.600 is not a

00:43:41.560 working man

00:43:42.200 Tony Blair's

00:43:43.340 Labour Party

00:43:43.940 signaled the

00:43:45.500 bourgeois

00:43:46.640 takeover

00:43:47.420 of the

00:43:48.340 Labour Party

00:43:48.940 and it's

00:43:50.280 disconnect

00:43:50.720 from the

00:43:51.460 concerns

00:43:51.860 of working

00:43:52.580 men

00:43:52.880 and so

00:43:54.040 they were

00:43:55.300 the middle

00:43:56.240 class

00:43:56.520 they became

00:43:56.880 very much

00:43:57.400 the sort

00:43:57.700 of

00:43:58.480 single degree

00:43:59.400 holding

00:43:59.760 middle class

00:44:00.340 party

00:44:00.700 we are the

00:44:01.220 party of the

00:44:01.740 middle management

00:44:02.400 and we're here

00:44:03.300 to take over

00:44:03.880 we're here to

00:44:04.680 reformat the

00:44:05.340 country in our

00:44:05.840 image

00:44:06.080 now of course

00:44:06.720 the Conservative

00:44:07.280 Party

00:44:07.620 traditionally

00:44:08.120 is the

00:44:08.440 party of

00:44:08.860 the sort

00:44:09.100 of

00:44:09.620 aristocracy

00:44:10.660 and the

00:44:11.020 shire

00:44:11.320 Tories

00:44:11.820 so landowners

00:44:12.780 and people

00:44:13.240 who don't

00:44:13.540 want anything

00:44:14.000 to change

00:44:14.560 because they've

00:44:15.280 got everything

00:44:15.780 that they

00:44:16.120 could ever ask

00:44:17.060 for

00:44:17.340 and so

00:44:18.460 the Conservative

00:44:19.000 Party was

00:44:19.520 always the

00:44:19.860 party of

00:44:20.240 inertia

00:44:20.640 we're not

00:44:21.500 going to

00:44:21.700 do anything

00:44:22.220 because you

00:44:23.040 the hierarchy

00:44:24.400 of this

00:44:24.680 country is

00:44:25.140 already exactly

00:44:26.000 as you want

00:44:26.440 it

00:44:26.640 and to be

00:44:27.460 honest with

00:44:27.840 you

00:44:28.040 most people

00:44:29.380 are kind

00:44:29.780 of okay

00:44:30.160 with that

00:44:30.640 or they

00:44:32.360 were anyway

00:44:32.920 and that's

00:44:34.060 why the

00:44:34.260 Conservative

00:44:34.600 Party is

00:44:35.140 the world's

00:44:35.460 most successful

00:44:36.080 party

00:44:36.600 then you've

00:44:37.780 got the

00:44:38.040 party of

00:44:38.920 the people

00:44:40.740 who don't

00:44:41.040 want to be

00:44:41.380 involved in

00:44:41.800 politics

00:44:42.240 which is

00:44:43.080 the Liberal

00:44:43.380 Democrats

00:44:43.820 you've

00:44:44.320 probably seen

00:44:44.840 Ed Davies

00:44:45.700 postmodern

00:44:46.980 political

00:44:47.440 campaign

00:44:47.960 of going

00:44:49.080 on a bicycle

00:44:49.700 or going

00:44:50.340 on a water

00:44:50.780 slide

00:44:51.140 or falling

00:44:51.980 off a

00:44:52.740 balloon or

00:44:54.440 something

00:44:54.680 he's done

00:44:55.980 ridiculous

00:44:56.340 things

00:44:56.760 well they're

00:44:57.880 the party

00:44:58.500 for people

00:44:59.140 who don't

00:44:59.460 really want

00:44:59.760 to be involved

00:45:00.140 in politics

00:45:00.640 and you can

00:45:01.300 see if you

00:45:01.780 look at their

00:45:02.120 constituencies

00:45:02.840 they're the

00:45:03.800 party of the

00:45:04.960 English middle

00:45:06.540 class who are

00:45:07.820 outside of the

00:45:10.060 political arena

00:45:10.980 the Labour

00:45:11.800 party holds

00:45:12.480 cities

00:45:12.940 and various

00:45:14.800 urban areas

00:45:16.160 cities and

00:45:16.640 towns

00:45:16.900 well the

00:45:17.600 Liberal

00:45:17.780 Democrats

00:45:18.300 are the

00:45:18.680 kind of

00:45:19.020 lefty

00:45:20.740 well-meaning

00:45:21.860 people who

00:45:23.280 live in the

00:45:24.640 homogenous areas

00:45:25.660 of England

00:45:26.000 and so they

00:45:27.180 just want to

00:45:27.600 think of

00:45:27.860 themselves as

00:45:28.300 good people

00:45:28.740 when they

00:45:29.080 go to one

00:45:29.580 another's

00:45:29.960 dinner parties

00:45:30.580 when they

00:45:31.540 see their

00:45:32.220 neighbours on

00:45:32.540 the street

00:45:32.800 say hello

00:45:33.260 yes I'm

00:45:33.840 against

00:45:34.040 racism

00:45:34.420 and then

00:45:35.920 you've got

00:45:36.200 reform

00:45:36.600 reform

00:45:37.880 doesn't quite

00:45:39.320 know what

00:45:39.660 it's supposed

00:45:40.640 to be yet

00:45:41.440 which is

00:45:42.820 interesting

00:45:43.340 Nigel Farage

00:45:44.280 is an

00:45:44.720 interesting

00:45:45.020 character

00:45:45.380 because he

00:45:46.800 is a city

00:45:47.620 boy right

00:45:48.440 now he's

00:45:48.780 not like a

00:45:49.620 trader but

00:45:51.500 he's in that

00:45:52.580 kind of

00:45:53.000 stereotype

00:45:53.560 he's not

00:45:56.520 come from

00:45:56.960 the working

00:45:57.320 class

00:45:57.780 he's a

00:45:59.100 well-to-do

00:45:59.600 chap from

00:46:00.420 a well-to-do

00:46:00.880 family which

00:46:01.540 is not a

00:46:02.500 black mark

00:46:02.920 against him

00:46:03.480 but he is

00:46:04.900 patriotic and

00:46:05.600 he loves

00:46:06.020 the 20th

00:46:07.120 century mythos

00:46:08.380 of Britain

00:46:09.220 so he is

00:46:10.920 patriotic for

00:46:12.600 something about

00:46:13.580 Britain but

00:46:15.040 he's also not

00:46:15.900 a friend of

00:46:17.780 the working

00:46:18.140 man which

00:46:19.280 is why I

00:46:20.080 think on a

00:46:20.780 personal level

00:46:21.580 he's really

00:46:22.080 pissed off with

00:46:23.460 having to deal

00:46:24.140 with Tommy

00:46:24.620 Robinson and

00:46:25.800 on a personal

00:46:26.720 level why he

00:46:28.080 acts as if he's

00:46:29.460 repelled by

00:46:30.260 Tommy and

00:46:31.040 why he keeps

00:46:31.700 emphasising

00:46:32.540 Tommy Robinson's

00:46:33.600 criminal record

00:46:34.200 because Tommy

00:46:34.860 Robinson's criminal

00:46:35.500 record is not

00:46:36.060 actually that

00:46:36.660 shocking for

00:46:37.240 anyone who

00:46:37.900 comes from a

00:46:38.380 working class

00:46:38.780 background

00:46:39.220 anyone involved

00:46:41.320 with all my

00:46:43.460 family are

00:46:43.820 working class

00:46:44.380 there are a

00:46:45.940 bunch of them

00:46:46.360 with criminal

00:46:46.720 records

00:46:47.200 obviously that

00:46:48.920 happens whether

00:46:50.020 it's for drugs

00:46:50.680 whether it's

00:46:51.060 for fighting

00:46:51.760 in Tommy's

00:46:53.180 case it's

00:46:54.060 mortgage fraud

00:46:56.320 I think

00:46:56.800 and he went

00:46:58.520 to jail in

00:46:58.900 2013 for

00:46:59.600 punching a

00:47:00.160 Nazi who

00:47:01.380 was trying to

00:47:01.840 infiltrate the

00:47:02.920 EDL and

00:47:03.900 now he's

00:47:04.640 in jail

00:47:05.100 essentially as

00:47:05.940 a series of

00:47:07.360 wars between

00:47:08.160 him and the

00:47:08.960 state in

00:47:09.380 sort of John

00:47:09.860 Lilburn fashion

00:47:10.900 so I mean

00:47:13.040 Tommy's crimes

00:47:13.680 are hardly

00:47:14.240 remarkable

00:47:15.480 like okay he

00:47:17.020 committed a bit

00:47:17.460 of mortgage fraud

00:47:18.080 ten years ago

00:47:18.700 I don't care

00:47:19.600 that's a question

00:47:20.580 between him and

00:47:21.200 the state

00:47:21.640 he's you know

00:47:23.100 like he hasn't

00:47:24.000 done anything

00:47:24.360 that's that

00:47:25.940 morally repugnant

00:47:27.020 it's not that it's

00:47:27.640 good to have done

00:47:28.320 this but like

00:47:29.360 it's not something

00:47:30.380 where your family

00:47:31.600 would have to

00:47:32.060 turn on you

00:47:32.600 you know it's

00:47:33.300 not like you've

00:47:33.820 raped someone

00:47:34.360 or beaten his

00:47:35.080 wife as Nigel

00:47:36.280 Farage accused

00:47:36.880 him of the

00:47:37.260 other day

00:47:37.680 which is

00:47:38.380 remarkable

00:47:38.960 and so

00:47:40.680 Tommy's

00:47:42.420 when he says

00:47:43.900 oh Tommy

00:47:44.380 has he's got

00:47:45.200 a criminal

00:47:45.560 record it's

00:47:46.060 like loads

00:47:47.220 of people have

00:47:47.660 a criminal

00:47:47.920 record Nigel

00:47:48.620 like loads

00:47:50.000 loads of

00:47:50.860 conservatives

00:47:51.360 have a criminal

00:47:52.020 record

00:47:52.500 loads of

00:47:53.480 you know

00:47:54.180 loads of

00:47:55.280 people in the

00:47:55.700 upper class

00:47:56.180 with their

00:47:56.600 tax evasion

00:47:57.260 and things

00:47:57.540 like that

00:47:57.720 have criminal

00:47:58.180 records

00:47:58.620 it's being

00:47:59.880 used as

00:48:00.340 excuse to

00:48:01.100 stomp down

00:48:02.140 the pleb

00:48:02.600 and Nigel

00:48:03.480 Farage's

00:48:03.840 support is

00:48:05.820 going to be

00:48:06.400 mostly the

00:48:06.960 plebs

00:48:07.340 the reform

00:48:09.140 of the second

00:48:09.560 party in the

00:48:10.160 north at the

00:48:10.620 moment

00:48:10.840 and you

00:48:12.380 you can see

00:48:13.760 that a lot

00:48:14.660 of reform

00:48:15.300 supporters are

00:48:16.600 very frustrated

00:48:17.360 with Nigel's

00:48:17.980 attitude on

00:48:18.560 this because

00:48:19.460 they see

00:48:20.940 in Tommy

00:48:21.700 a potential

00:48:23.540 version of

00:48:24.120 themselves

00:48:24.560 it could have

00:48:25.340 been me

00:48:25.760 in that

00:48:26.300 position

00:48:26.700 and so when

00:48:27.460 Nigel says

00:48:27.920 no that

00:48:28.240 person is

00:48:28.680 bad

00:48:29.120 Nigel is

00:48:30.020 unwittingly

00:48:30.780 I think

00:48:31.300 condemning

00:48:32.440 his base

00:48:32.980 of support

00:48:33.620 and that's

00:48:34.680 very very

00:48:35.700 counterproductive

00:48:36.520 and I wish

00:48:37.020 he would just

00:48:37.420 step over it

00:48:38.180 and stop

00:48:38.880 talking about

00:48:39.400 Tommy even

00:48:39.760 when people

00:48:40.460 presented to

00:48:41.000 him I wish

00:48:41.320 he'd just

00:48:41.580 say well

00:48:42.740 look Tommy

00:48:43.400 Robinson is

00:48:43.880 a symptom

00:48:44.180 of the

00:48:44.440 problem and

00:48:45.080 the only

00:48:45.600 reason he

00:48:46.000 can exist

00:48:46.480 is because

00:48:46.920 you failed

00:48:47.440 to do

00:48:47.660 your job

00:48:48.080 and suddenly

00:48:48.920 you're on

00:48:49.200 the attack

00:48:49.600 you're not

00:48:49.980 attacking Tommy

00:48:50.520 Robinson

00:48:50.780 you're not

00:48:51.140 attacking your

00:48:51.540 own supporters

00:48:52.100 who use Tommy

00:48:53.700 Robinson as a

00:48:54.820 proxy for

00:48:55.400 themselves

00:48:55.800 you're attacking

00:48:57.140 the enemy

00:48:57.980 but Farage

00:48:59.220 I think has a

00:48:59.880 genuine personal

00:49:00.520 dislike of Tommy

00:49:01.320 Robinson which

00:49:02.360 is based in

00:49:02.960 class and this

00:49:06.220 is the position

00:49:06.740 we're in but

00:49:07.520 Rupert Lowe is

00:49:08.900 doing a superb

00:49:09.520 job so I think

00:49:11.140 reform are the best

00:49:11.980 we've got at the

00:49:12.440 moment

00:49:12.660 yeah you really

00:49:14.160 need somebody who

00:49:15.040 can like you

00:49:15.800 said with like

00:49:16.380 the aristocratic

00:49:17.280 tenor can

00:49:18.820 can transcend

00:49:19.560 that class

00:49:20.840 can you know

00:49:21.580 you have somebody

00:49:22.420 like Donald Trump

00:49:23.240 who obviously

00:49:24.140 you know he's a

00:49:24.860 lifelong New

00:49:25.480 Yorker he's rich

00:49:26.620 but he is able

00:49:28.480 to walk into a

00:49:29.340 crowd of people

00:49:30.460 from you know

00:49:31.280 the flyover

00:49:32.040 states and he

00:49:33.340 feels like one

00:49:34.060 of them you

00:49:34.480 have same thing

00:49:35.280 with Tucker

00:49:35.640 Carlson right

00:49:36.340 just is somebody

00:49:37.540 who very clearly

00:49:38.540 comes from a

00:49:39.280 particular stock

00:49:39.980 and a particular

00:49:40.420 background but he

00:49:42.060 doesn't feel like

00:49:42.860 he's reaching

00:49:43.580 down when he's

00:49:44.940 talking to people

00:49:46.460 the average

00:49:47.220 American he is

00:49:48.160 somebody who has

00:49:49.200 a reverence for

00:49:49.860 that and that's

00:49:50.880 certainly a skill

00:49:52.180 that reform is

00:49:53.160 going to need to

00:49:53.700 acquire if it's

00:49:54.820 going to make any

00:49:55.440 headway but we

00:49:56.520 have a lot of

00:49:57.260 questions stacking

00:49:57.960 up and I know I

00:49:58.680 only have you for

00:49:59.700 a few more minutes

00:50:00.400 so let's let's

00:50:01.680 try to get to

00:50:02.300 those before we

00:50:03.140 do you want to

00:50:03.800 tell people you

00:50:05.280 know Lotus

00:50:05.640 Eaters or where

00:50:06.300 to find anything

00:50:06.940 got anything

00:50:07.340 exciting coming

00:50:07.880 yeah just come

00:50:08.780 find us on the

00:50:09.260 podcast the

00:50:09.740 Lotus Eaters or

00:50:10.580 lotuscees.com

00:50:11.440 and we cover

00:50:13.280 this obviously

00:50:14.040 on a daily

00:50:14.540 basis because

00:50:15.320 it's and not

00:50:16.400 just this we

00:50:16.780 cover everything

00:50:17.340 but like this

00:50:18.100 has been

00:50:18.380 particularly

00:50:18.960 interesting an

00:50:21.360 interesting way

00:50:21.880 to kick off

00:50:22.300 2025 I have to

00:50:23.400 say it's good

00:50:24.300 energy very good

00:50:25.440 energy I realize

00:50:26.080 I probably seem

00:50:26.900 quite stressed out

00:50:27.660 by it all but

00:50:29.720 I've had I mean

00:50:32.240 when you get I've

00:50:33.180 been retweeted by

00:50:34.000 Elon five times

00:50:35.000 now and so I'm

00:50:36.040 getting grilled on

00:50:36.860 the radio like

00:50:39.040 James O'Brien is

00:50:40.160 there I can't

00:50:40.740 believe he retweeted

00:50:41.500 Carl Benjamin

00:50:41.940 blah blah and

00:50:42.540 so I'm getting it

00:50:44.160 in the neck from

00:50:45.280 normal people now

00:50:46.540 you know like there

00:50:47.680 are normies in my

00:50:48.740 friends and family

00:50:49.440 who's like James

00:50:50.380 O'Brien was talking

00:50:50.980 about you on the

00:50:51.440 TV on the on the

00:50:52.280 radio and it's like

00:50:52.860 yeah I'm sorry I

00:50:54.540 don't anyway the

00:50:55.840 yeah so I'm not

00:50:57.240 actually very

00:50:57.820 optimistic about

00:50:58.720 this if this is the

00:50:59.540 way 2025 begins

00:51:00.820 great start let's

00:51:02.380 keep going I mean

00:51:03.600 what's the the

00:51:04.400 Churchill quote you

00:51:05.380 know if you you

00:51:06.200 have enemies good

00:51:07.000 that means you stood

00:51:07.700 up for something in

00:51:08.380 your life yeah yeah

00:51:09.500 you only take flack

00:51:10.340 when you're over the

00:51:10.880 target as well yeah

00:51:11.740 precisely yeah all

00:51:13.200 right let's see

00:51:14.100 Arthur T says what

00:51:17.880 explains the MSN

00:51:19.220 tendency to dismiss

00:51:20.320 the UK grooming

00:51:21.340 scandal as a

00:51:22.260 nothing burger they

00:51:23.440 hand wave it away

00:51:24.380 like it's ancient

00:51:25.320 history meanwhile

00:51:26.120 historical events

00:51:27.140 like the 1921

00:51:28.080 Tulsa riots are

00:51:29.700 reported as fresh

00:51:31.500 news yeah good

00:51:32.480 point is we have to

00:51:33.460 live through all the

00:51:34.380 historical wrongs of

00:51:35.700 the racists but if

00:51:36.660 you bring up you

00:51:38.080 know something that

00:51:39.100 happened five years

00:51:40.340 ago all of a sudden

00:51:41.220 it's oh no it's done

00:51:42.120 it's dusted what are

00:51:42.800 you talking about

00:51:43.340 yeah the the the

00:51:44.980 answer is of course

00:51:46.080 protecting the dignity

00:51:48.420 of minority

00:51:49.280 communities they're

00:51:51.100 they're very

00:51:51.620 interested in making

00:51:52.780 sure that these

00:51:54.060 communities don't fall

00:51:55.180 under the tyranny of

00:51:56.220 characterization as

00:51:57.920 in if you and the

00:51:59.240 public generally hold a

00:52:00.260 negative opinion on

00:52:02.200 diversity ethnic

00:52:04.020 minorities race gender

00:52:06.220 sexual minorities then

00:52:08.180 the the environment

00:52:12.260 this will create for

00:52:13.080 these minorities whether

00:52:14.480 justified or not will

00:52:16.240 make their lives more

00:52:17.040 difficult and they

00:52:18.400 want equality they

00:52:19.540 want their life to be

00:52:21.280 as easy as a normal

00:52:22.920 person's life which is

00:52:24.020 not necessarily an

00:52:24.660 unfair thing to want

00:52:25.520 but the way that they

00:52:26.880 go about creating this

00:52:28.580 equality is possibly the

00:52:30.760 worst way of doing it

00:52:32.360 because they essentially

00:52:33.240 begin with the

00:52:33.820 premise that that

00:52:35.120 community cannot do

00:52:36.560 any wrong and if they

00:52:37.740 do something wrong it's

00:52:38.900 because they're the

00:52:39.500 victim of the majority

00:52:40.440 community and so the

00:52:41.960 community the minority

00:52:42.920 community community

00:52:43.900 itself never mends its

00:52:46.620 ways it never does

00:52:48.360 better in in ways that

00:52:50.280 we would never accept

00:52:51.260 for the majority

00:52:52.600 community right we've

00:52:53.940 never accept that

00:52:55.380 yeah like there could

00:52:58.580 never be a time where

00:53:00.480 the there were white

00:53:01.980 english grooming gangs

00:53:03.160 who go into the

00:53:04.820 minority asian

00:53:05.620 communities essentially

00:53:07.060 kidnap their daughters

00:53:08.320 gang rape them and

00:53:09.740 when those guys tried to

00:53:10.780 rescue their daughters

00:53:11.640 the police would arrest

00:53:12.820 them that would never

00:53:13.960 happen because it's

00:53:16.560 about balancing the

00:53:17.700 scales

00:53:18.060 we've got uh alexandra here

00:53:22.720 says i can't even read

00:53:24.360 about the story too much

00:53:25.500 because i need to protect

00:53:26.540 my brain that's the kind

00:53:27.540 of horror that keeps you

00:53:28.980 up at night yeah elon uh

00:53:30.800 really tore into this after

00:53:32.080 they kind of read out um

00:53:34.080 you know some of the court

00:53:35.240 transcripts over you know

00:53:36.940 what was going on and it

00:53:38.080 was it was truly horrific

00:53:39.420 yeah it is there's nothing

00:53:42.400 to add it you you can

00:53:44.320 easily find the court

00:53:45.560 transcripts if you just

00:53:46.340 search grooming gang court

00:53:48.380 transcripts or something

00:53:49.280 like that you'll be able to

00:53:49.940 find loads um yeah i mean

00:53:52.080 it's just some of them just

00:53:54.280 the worst stuff that a

00:53:56.760 human being is capable of

00:53:57.940 doing to another human

00:53:58.660 being has been done in this

00:54:00.000 country uh and it never

00:54:01.640 used to be this way

00:54:02.300 england used to be the

00:54:03.080 sort of place where bad

00:54:03.780 things just generally didn't

00:54:04.740 happen and when they did

00:54:06.180 happen they'd be talked

00:54:06.920 about the generations uh

00:54:10.720 tony uh one doll says

00:54:12.640 uh great to see both of

00:54:13.700 you winning the h1b

00:54:15.220 arguments while still

00:54:16.540 trying to keep elon on

00:54:17.740 side i hope you can do

00:54:19.080 the same uh with other

00:54:20.960 trump allies yeah again

00:54:22.460 that that's that was kind

00:54:23.640 of the reason that didn't

00:54:25.080 try to burn any bridges

00:54:26.140 with even though elon was

00:54:27.680 definitely wrong about the

00:54:29.140 h1b and needed to hear

00:54:30.660 about it um he can still

00:54:32.660 be a force for good and

00:54:34.360 that's why you don't want

00:54:35.380 to just immediately light

00:54:36.740 up a possible ally when

00:54:39.240 you have the opportunity

00:54:40.080 to persuade and elon's not

00:54:42.560 an irrational man i mean

00:54:43.900 you know you couldn't

00:54:45.060 reason with him you look

00:54:46.300 at the way that he has

00:54:47.540 um approached this issue

00:54:49.540 uh for example he

00:54:51.080 retweeted charlie downs

00:54:52.420 the other day who's a

00:54:53.180 friend of mine and i

00:54:54.220 often have him on the

00:54:55.300 podcast and charlie's

00:54:57.020 saying look britain's not

00:54:57.760 an idea britain is the

00:54:58.660 people itself uh britain is

00:55:00.440 not a propositional

00:55:01.240 nation uh britain is uh a

00:55:04.220 part of a historic ethnic

00:55:05.660 continuity and elon musk

00:55:07.840 retweeted that so maybe

00:55:10.700 maybe he has uh been

00:55:13.240 paying attention

00:55:13.840 first uh perspicacious

00:55:17.980 heretic says when hashtag

00:55:19.760 me too meets racial

00:55:20.960 equality i see the same

00:55:22.640 people who were initially

00:55:23.960 hysterical about the

00:55:25.100 former will ultimately

00:55:26.420 self-flagellate over the

00:55:28.360 latter yeah this is an

00:55:29.540 interesting uh check for

00:55:31.720 the oppression hierarchy

00:55:33.020 right apparently uh the

00:55:34.720 the uh the rape of young

00:55:36.640 girls is just not as

00:55:38.300 important it it's important

00:55:39.540 if like a white guy was

00:55:40.660 doing it somewhere but once

00:55:42.260 the you know the racial

00:55:43.280 calculus comes in you can

00:55:44.900 really drop that to the

00:55:45.820 bottom of the stack

00:55:46.540 apparently well we we

00:55:47.640 actually do know uh white

00:55:49.340 english girls working

00:55:50.960 class girls are lower on

00:55:52.340 the progressive stack than

00:55:53.300 pakistani men that's that's

00:55:55.020 self-evident at this point

00:55:56.220 um yeah it's what's

00:55:58.120 interesting though as well is

00:55:59.160 it's the country's leading

00:56:00.220 feminist the one miss

00:56:01.500 jess phillips uh who is

00:56:03.260 currently essentially

00:56:05.000 acting as a shield for

00:56:06.700 criticism to the pakistani

00:56:07.960 community and is doing

00:56:09.940 nothing to help the uh girls

00:56:11.620 who have been groomed and

00:56:12.440 raped so um yeah feminism is

00:56:15.340 not covering itself in glory

00:56:16.500 at the moment yeah turns out

00:56:18.660 it was uh never about the

00:56:19.760 well-being of women but

00:56:20.700 who could have got it

00:56:21.500 yeah weird that isn't it

00:56:22.180 it was always about

00:56:22.660 attacking men

00:56:23.320 strange uh alexander says

00:56:26.900 uh you can either fight uh

00:56:28.540 for your home and your

00:56:29.520 people and be called a

00:56:30.440 racist or you can

00:56:31.100 passively watch it all

00:56:32.600 crash and burn and be

00:56:34.160 called a racist yeah i mean

00:56:35.680 that is that i mean exactly

00:56:37.800 yeah well i think elon

00:56:39.680 tweeted out something like

00:56:41.080 uh uh you know if if

00:56:43.360 caring about the rape of

00:56:44.660 children makes me a

00:56:45.940 fascist then i'm a

00:56:47.060 fascist you know like if

00:56:49.500 you guys want to play that

00:56:50.420 game be careful because you

00:56:51.880 know you're gonna get the

00:56:52.860 stupid prizes eventually

00:56:53.900 it's worse to be in favor

00:56:55.820 of them raping children

00:56:56.800 than it is to be a

00:56:57.580 fascist and i say this as

00:56:58.660 someone who's not a

00:56:59.500 fascist right yeah

00:57:00.680 and thinks very little of

00:57:02.980 fascism because it's a

00:57:04.200 weird foreign ideology

00:57:05.320 that doesn't jive with me

00:57:06.360 at all like you know but

00:57:08.620 i mean well like you said

00:57:11.740 racism is just not the

00:57:12.700 worst thing like look

00:57:13.400 sorry i don't think you

00:57:14.560 should have a ethnic

00:57:15.560 hatred in your heart but

00:57:17.080 if uh you are uh approving

00:57:19.240 of or participating in or

00:57:20.740 facilitating uh a rape

00:57:22.660 gang um then you are a

00:57:24.980 much worse person than a

00:57:25.900 racist like i will take

00:57:27.020 a thousand racists over

00:57:28.840 you every day yeah i mean

00:57:30.660 and not even close being

00:57:32.560 surrounded by a thousand

00:57:33.460 racists would be

00:57:34.040 insufferable because

00:57:34.740 they'll be like blah blah

00:57:35.480 blah blah blah and you

00:57:35.940 know knock it off it's

00:57:39.680 unpleasant but come on you

00:57:42.060 know come on

00:57:43.280 uh florida henry here says

00:57:47.060 how much further can the

00:57:48.520 left go after these and

00:57:49.980 other things involving

00:57:51.440 children

00:57:52.300 uh yeah i mean you just

00:57:53.880 saw the finally the push

00:57:55.180 back when it came to

00:57:55.960 child mutilation and the

00:57:57.660 attempt to trans children

00:57:58.600 that kind of worked its

00:57:59.480 way through even the uk

00:58:01.120 before it did uh the

00:58:02.600 united states and yet

00:58:03.460 somehow this isn't

00:58:04.540 treated as important it

00:58:05.840 seems very strange

00:58:07.420 yeah but there are a

00:58:09.180 series of more

00:58:09.740 reckonings that happen

00:58:11.240 though i mean one

00:58:12.220 reckoning that needs to

00:58:13.360 happen is the left's

00:58:14.720 desire to normalize

00:58:15.920 pedophilia this is a

00:58:17.600 completely intractable

00:58:19.880 part of the left

00:58:20.880 they've been doing it

00:58:21.720 for decades uh only in

00:58:23.920 the early 2000s from

00:58:25.480 from like the 70s to

00:58:27.220 the 2000s the german

00:58:29.260 state was allowing

00:58:30.740 pedophiles to adopt

00:58:31.760 orphans yes they were

00:58:33.280 in order to prevent

00:58:34.360 nazism germany's really

00:58:36.620 only got two settings man

00:58:37.740 anyway sorry yeah it is

00:58:39.060 totally true it's totally

00:58:40.460 true um but the i mean

00:58:42.300 one of the people who

00:58:43.220 came out to defend the

00:58:44.080 rape gangs that uh the

00:58:45.340 other day was a woman

00:58:45.960 called harriet harmond she

00:58:47.660 was a former labor

00:58:48.720 minister and she was

00:58:50.640 involved in something

00:58:51.360 called the pe uh pie which

00:58:54.160 was the pedophile

00:58:55.060 information exchange which

00:58:56.960 was attempting through the

00:58:58.040 labor government in the

00:58:58.960 70s to normalize

00:59:00.200 pedophilia and that

00:59:02.260 failed but she's still in

00:59:03.960 politics i've got a sign

00:59:06.460 about this uh but yeah

00:59:08.080 uh joshua bb says uh

00:59:12.240 stunned by the uh by the

00:59:14.640 crimes scale how can your

00:59:16.040 countrymen fall uh fail to

00:59:17.840 care about each of each

00:59:19.420 other this deeply i don't

00:59:20.460 understand the english caste

00:59:22.160 system you've already

00:59:22.880 spoken of what you know

00:59:24.500 what happened to the

00:59:25.020 fathers but uh do you

00:59:26.980 think that the atomization

00:59:28.640 of uh kind of the british

00:59:31.220 people has some effect here

00:59:33.260 too this less community

00:59:35.040 less connection to parents

00:59:36.260 no this predated the

00:59:37.860 atom the atomization of

00:59:39.480 society um this predates

00:59:41.900 social media uh the the

00:59:43.720 issue in this is class

00:59:44.960 expressly class uh class

00:59:47.660 and racism and uh and i

00:59:51.560 again i don't want you to

00:59:52.500 think ill of the working

00:59:53.600 class men in this they

00:59:55.320 tried they tried for years

00:59:58.000 and years and they were

00:59:59.080 crushed by the state they

01:00:01.260 had no elite backing

01:00:02.220 whatsoever no one was on

01:00:03.780 their side

01:00:04.260 skeptical panda says good

01:00:07.040 luck carl and uh the good

01:00:08.760 people of britain getting

01:00:09.700 your country back from the

01:00:11.000 villains currently in

01:00:11.900 charge but does elon even

01:00:13.760 bring up this issue if he

01:00:15.120 didn't step on the h1b rake

01:00:17.860 so hard yeah good question i

01:00:19.540 mean do you think this is

01:00:20.560 entirely organic because you

01:00:21.760 think this is him trying to

01:00:22.660 make up for kind of bad will

01:00:24.040 that he had encouraged well i

01:00:26.280 think i think elon has

01:00:27.620 actually uh shown a long

01:00:29.380 pattern of really hating

01:00:31.200 pedophilia right the first

01:00:33.420 thing he did when he gets on

01:00:34.880 twitter is ban pedophilia and

01:00:36.840 the first thing that happens on

01:00:37.960 blue sky when they uh flee to

01:00:41.380 that platform is blue sky

01:00:43.180 starts getting an influx of

01:00:44.240 child porn um so i think i

01:00:46.780 think this is a a pattern that

01:00:48.420 elon has demonstrated that he

01:00:49.640 is a father and he loves

01:00:51.200 especially what was happened

01:00:52.000 to his children yeah exactly

01:00:53.600 and he wants the best for his

01:00:55.100 kids so i'm not i'm not saying

01:00:57.900 that it's not tactical uh and

01:01:00.860 a way of kind of redeeming

01:01:02.540 himself after the h1b meltdown

01:01:04.720 um but i also do believe it's

01:01:07.120 a sincerely held belief for

01:01:08.520 elon and it's also a very

01:01:11.260 politically necessary thing to

01:01:14.120 do in this country and so even

01:01:15.740 if it's being done partially for

01:01:17.740 cynical reasons i'm gonna give

01:01:19.180 him a pass because by god did we

01:01:21.540 need someone above the british

01:01:23.740 establishment who have got

01:01:24.780 everything locked down they've

01:01:25.960 got on complete lockdown we

01:01:27.620 needed like this meteor to come

01:01:29.300 in and blow it apart and so thank

01:01:31.100 god that elon's taking the time to

01:01:33.260 do this and again he didn't

01:01:34.580 have to he didn't have to do

01:01:36.000 this um so i really appreciate

01:01:37.980 that he has yeah no i would

01:01:39.960 agree again it's you don't

01:01:42.120 don't be foolish don't burn

01:01:43.720 bridges take your w's when you

01:01:45.780 can get them like they're just

01:01:47.140 you know i i i understand if

01:01:49.320 everyone doesn't start

01:01:50.060 worshiping elon that's

01:01:51.300 perfectly reasonable but you

01:01:53.100 know don't don't go the other

01:01:54.600 direction and uh you know just

01:01:56.200 torch every possibility of

01:01:57.980 winning because you know he

01:01:59.880 disagrees with you on an issue

01:02:01.180 here uh life of brian says a

01:02:03.560 chance that low will arrest

01:02:05.220 control from nigel or a party

01:02:07.880 right of reform is one a is

01:02:10.300 starting to go his own way on

01:02:12.360 these issues i think zero chance

01:02:15.320 that low would even try to arrest

01:02:18.580 control of reform off of nigel

01:02:20.060 because there's just no way for

01:02:21.140 him to do it there's no mechanism

01:02:22.220 not reform is actually a business

01:02:26.020 private entity not political party

01:02:29.100 and nigel is the predominant

01:02:31.100 shareholder so there's nothing he

01:02:32.700 can do to uh try and usurp nigel

01:02:35.400 and i don't think he would anyway

01:02:37.240 um what i think we can hope for is

01:02:40.660 that um prime minister nigel um

01:02:46.900 becomes

01:02:47.620 open to allowing rupert lowe to

01:02:52.060 clean up a bunch of the mess

01:02:53.180 because i think a lot of nigel's

01:02:55.100 issue is that he spent 25 years

01:02:58.700 probably 30 years now stage

01:03:00.900 managing his own reputation in

01:03:02.420 the face of a very hostile media

01:03:04.240 and he's come out with it with a

01:03:05.780 rather good reputation all things

01:03:08.980 considered he's actually the most

01:03:10.380 popular politician in the country

01:03:11.860 right he's he's got approval rating

01:03:13.740 of something like minus 20 percent

01:03:16.160 but that's way better than almost

01:03:18.420 every other politician in the

01:03:19.680 country

01:03:20.020 um or party leader in the country

01:03:22.320 so he's done quite well to stage

01:03:25.100 manage his reputation and a large

01:03:26.500 part of his i hate tommy spiel is

01:03:29.080 about stage managing of his

01:03:30.880 reputation

01:03:31.400 and so what i'm hoping is that he

01:03:33.960 will essentially

01:03:34.540 use rupert lowe as a bulldog as a

01:03:37.640 guard dog as an attack dog

01:03:38.780 and so nigel forage will be able to

01:03:40.940 keep his hands essentially clean

01:03:42.320 let rupert lowe go out and just lay

01:03:44.640 waste

01:03:45.200 to all of the things that rupert

01:03:46.840 clearly wants to lay waste to

01:03:48.300 in a spectacular fashion

01:03:50.100 and and hopefully you know keep

01:03:52.720 his own hands uh reasonably dry

01:03:54.540 doing that now that i think would

01:03:56.540 be the best possible case scenario

01:03:58.620 to come out of what we have in

01:03:59.900 front of us

01:04:00.620 Jonathan bb says that everyone is

01:04:03.820 the same but i'm guessing white

01:04:05.460 children has no right to safety

01:04:08.180 um unfortunately that does seem to

01:04:10.780 be working class

01:04:11.580 working class okay yeah no right

01:04:13.620 safety that's that's true

01:04:14.760 what remember the working class are

01:04:17.200 viewed as kind of backsliders in

01:04:21.260 some way treacherous to the middle

01:04:23.120 class uh because the middle class

01:04:25.380 themselves remember that their

01:04:27.340 grandparents were working class and

01:04:29.500 so what they it it's kind of like

01:04:31.660 it's weird like um uh you know when

01:04:35.520 when the sort of uh the christian

01:04:37.640 fundamentalists are like well why are

01:04:39.600 they still apes they've got a kind of

01:04:41.380 why are they still working class

01:04:42.740 attitude uh you know why haven't they

01:04:45.360 evolved with the rest of us beyond

01:04:46.840 this yeah yeah yeah and and so they

01:04:49.620 they view the working class as kind of

01:04:51.000 treacherous to the ideals of the

01:04:53.280 middle class like no you were

01:04:54.520 supposed to come with us and instead

01:04:56.440 the working class have remained sort

01:04:57.800 of traditional and parochial and so

01:05:00.040 they hate them for it they really

01:05:01.720 hate them for it

01:05:02.420 uh and on reviewer says donald trump

01:05:06.460 needs to be added to the list of great

01:05:07.980 world conquerors having neither saber

01:05:09.480 nor pistol he has conquered both

01:05:11.200 canada and greenland yes greater

01:05:13.500 america continues to look beyond her

01:05:16.180 shores uh expand the golden circle in

01:05:18.700 the frozen north my my plan was to you

01:05:21.800 know we take canada but then we deport

01:05:24.080 all the uh californians canada and then

01:05:27.980 actual americans can retake uh

01:05:29.940 california again i'd say i think it'd be

01:05:32.440 a terrible thing for the republican

01:05:34.200 party if you did take canada because i

01:05:38.320 mean it's just going to add a huge

01:05:39.740 love oh they can't have suffrage no yeah

01:05:41.700 no they can't have the franchise

01:05:43.320 absolutely not no yeah yeah i can see

01:05:46.420 the greenlanders being republican but

01:05:48.160 like it's not enough of them

01:05:49.260 let's see here we got uh drew uh two of

01:05:52.600 my favorite people glad you're both

01:05:53.820 talking uh talking about uh out out this

01:05:57.600 oh thank you sir um hey max mcdonald

01:06:01.760 says does carl find it interesting that

01:06:03.840 uh right uh as elon west is getting some

01:06:06.780 trouble with americans over h1b he focused

01:06:08.760 on the problem of uk immigration do you uh

01:06:11.540 both see parallels in the issue uh whether

01:06:13.940 skilled or unskilled migrants cause uh the

01:06:16.540 issue oh yeah we already covered uh kind

01:06:18.560 of his strategy there but i do think it is

01:06:21.080 important to highlight that you know a lot

01:06:23.820 of the immigrants that are were doing this

01:06:26.340 were legal right they were in the uk legally

01:06:29.220 yeah yeah and so right and so it's not just

01:06:32.640 an issue of oh did did we do the the the

01:06:35.760 procedure did we follow the the right

01:06:37.660 procedure we got the forms filled out well

01:06:39.740 then it's fine like no actually the large

01:06:41.980 scale immigration is itself a problem even

01:06:44.380 if it is done through legal means correct

01:06:46.560 uh alexander says apart from race i think

01:06:50.340 the reason that the corporate press doesn't

01:06:52.220 cover child abuse is because it's a favorite

01:06:54.860 sin of their elites yeah i i would absolutely

01:06:57.840 agree with that it's one of the reasons the

01:06:59.880 bbc doesn't want to talk about it right

01:07:01.900 who else could be pulled into this

01:07:04.720 conversation uh simpler says i do appreciate

01:07:07.920 musk leading the reaction uh international

01:07:10.820 uh as uh macron put it uh yeah again he

01:07:14.580 sorry accidentally based macron uh oh there's

01:07:18.840 some sort of reactionary international

01:07:20.200 happening it's like that's a great idea

01:07:22.120 macron thank you good thinking i'll see you

01:07:25.300 there just like when they started calling

01:07:27.960 it the barbarian right it's like well that's

01:07:29.480 a great name thank you yeah yeah i like

01:07:31.060 that yeah uh uh don browning says uh think

01:07:35.180 of how many girls and boys would love to

01:07:37.080 have been spared and had there been no had

01:07:40.540 there not been cover-ups they were under

01:07:42.580 the illusion that they were in a high trust

01:07:44.400 society for decades decades longer than they

01:07:47.340 should have been so there's there's a it's

01:07:50.220 not just high trust society a issue there's

01:07:53.400 there's a an issue with the moral unity and

01:07:57.680 integration of the society and the state so

01:08:00.640 in world war ii people in britain and in

01:08:06.140 america uh genuinely believe their

01:08:08.700 countries were doing the right thing right

01:08:10.900 there's a genuine moral um widely spread

01:08:16.220 widely held moral acceptance whether whatever

01:08:19.420 people on the internet want to think about

01:08:20.880 that and whatever critiques you might have

01:08:23.040 of it it is the case that people look back

01:08:26.200 on the 20th century as a position as a time

01:08:28.800 of moral unity between the people and the

01:08:30.680 state and throughout the 20th century after

01:08:34.060 that the state persisted in this moral unity

01:08:38.440 in britain between the people and the

01:08:42.880 government now this isn't always true like

01:08:46.460 there there are there are breaks in this there

01:08:48.260 there are riots it's not there's no problems

01:08:50.320 but it's generally expected that the state would

01:08:53.740 end up doing the right thing in the end and i think that

01:08:58.240 moral unity is breaking down now because the

01:09:01.440 people in charge just will not have it none of

01:09:05.060 them will have it the media won't have it the

01:09:07.400 council counselors won't have it the police won't

01:09:10.400 have it the social workers won't have it the judges won't

01:09:13.120 have it the mps won't have it right so that that that moral unity

01:09:17.900 that protected the west from civil unrest in widespread civil unrest

01:09:23.640 that is breaking down in britain that is a real problem

01:09:27.640 yeah there is obviously always been a tension between the ruling class and its

01:09:32.340 subjects that's nothing new uh in world history but there does seem to be you know

01:09:38.540 as christopher lash put it a revolt of the elites in the last you know uh hundred years

01:09:44.080 where where they're really these systems are there to contain and control the populace

01:09:50.100 not to reflect anything about them or to guide them

01:09:53.440 to better them uh you know the the entirety that the only thing that seems to bind the ruling

01:09:59.040 class at this point is their disdain for those that they rule and this is something

01:10:02.900 that infects both the uk and the united states

01:10:05.240 yeah there's a commitment to the moral order of liberalism as well

01:10:09.100 they they do have an affirmative moral doctrine it's just evil

01:10:12.680 can't argue with that uh alexis 86 says will the uk become an islamic state

01:10:20.660 not anytime soon um what we will have is islamic colonies

01:10:24.640 and they because people do have to remember that most immigrants in britain are not islamic

01:10:31.340 most people in britain are not islamic again we're something like 95 94 percent non-islamic

01:10:39.880 like it's not actually a concern that britain is going to be taken over by muslims

01:10:44.580 what the concern is is we're going to have autonomous ethnic islamic enclaves that are

01:10:51.440 essentially given a license by the state to predate on the communities around them right

01:10:55.000 that's the concern uh it's not to say that in 50 years time this might will be the same or anything

01:11:00.540 like that there are definitely going to be future concerns in that sort of vein but again

01:11:05.160 i mean england is still 75 english like it's it's our moral weakness that is allowing this it's not

01:11:13.980 through enemy force yeah we've got like ilhan omar in the united states saying you know i'm somali and

01:11:20.580 i fight for somalians you know like you're not we're not going to get taken over by some uh somalia

01:11:25.180 anytime soon but you you see how disastrous it is to have an elected representative in in you know

01:11:31.400 your uh major body you know talking like that you know treating treating the country like that

01:11:37.280 uh dan browning says carl and colin need to have a talk that one colin's an old friend

01:11:44.760 well he yeah this is on the low seaters before right uh i don't think he's been on the low seaters

01:11:50.380 oh was it okay but and then uh templar says uh someone ran the numbers on twitter trump would

01:11:57.780 still win against uh canadian ecs all going democrats well like i said you you can't give

01:12:05.020 them the franchise either way it's very important though i do have a number of canadian friends who

01:12:09.080 have said yeah we would gladly welcome you as liberators like please just uh make make it happen

01:12:13.840 all right guys well we're gonna wrap this up i want carl to be able to get out of here i know

01:12:18.020 it's late over there thank you so much for coming on man always great talking to you and of course if

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 08, 2025

Elon Takes On the UK Government Over Islamic Grooming Gangs ｜ Guest： Carl Benjamin ｜ 1⧸8⧸25

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