The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 08, 2025


Elon Takes On the UK Government Over Islamic Grooming Gangs | Guest: Carl Benjamin | 1⧸8⧸25


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1 hour and 12 minutes

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12,218

Sentence count

56

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32

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In this episode, Carl Benjamin joins me to talk about a scandal that has been going on in the UK for a long time, involving a group of Muslim men who preyed on vulnerable young girls in order to rape them.

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00:00:30.280 Hey everybody, how's it going?
00:00:32.140 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.
00:00:33.720 I've got a great stream with great guests
00:00:35.320 that I think you're really going to enjoy.
00:00:37.600 So Elon has been on his redemption arc lately.
00:00:41.320 He got into quite the knockdown drag out
00:00:43.700 with many of the MAGA right in the United States
00:00:46.620 over the H-1B issue.
00:00:48.340 But he immediately moved over to discussing
00:00:51.480 something that has been going on in the UK for a long time.
00:00:55.740 If you have been paying attention to this show,
00:00:58.540 if you've been watching this show,
00:00:59.400 then you're aware of the grooming gang scandal
00:01:01.900 that came out of the UK
00:01:03.160 and all of the terrible happenings
00:01:05.580 that were covered up by the government there.
00:01:07.280 But most Americans were not.
00:01:09.000 Most people around the world were not.
00:01:11.000 And Elon has brought this to the forefront
00:01:13.480 of the mind of Americans, the UK,
00:01:17.320 everyone across the world.
00:01:18.500 Through his posting on this issue,
00:01:20.640 he has been challenging the government
00:01:22.540 of the United Kingdom.
00:01:23.940 It's been quite a thing to watch.
00:01:26.260 And so I wanted to bring Carl Benjamin
00:01:28.060 from the Lotus Eaters on to talk about it.
00:01:30.140 Thanks for coming on, man.
00:01:31.460 Anytime, man.
00:01:32.180 You know it.
00:01:33.600 Absolutely.
00:01:34.180 Well, like I said,
00:01:35.080 most people who watch the show
00:01:36.340 are probably familiar with,
00:01:38.480 at least passingly,
00:01:39.920 with what was going on.
00:01:41.260 But for many people,
00:01:42.620 this is the first time
00:01:43.700 they have ever heard about it.
00:01:45.240 So could you lay out,
00:01:46.840 just kind of give a short explanation
00:01:48.840 of this scandal,
00:01:50.540 where it started,
00:01:51.680 and kind of how we got here?
00:01:54.520 The roots of this scandal
00:01:56.340 go back all the way back
00:01:58.020 to the 1970s,
00:01:59.600 where this kind of behavior
00:02:02.120 has been manifested
00:02:03.020 by the Pakistani community in Britain.
00:02:05.280 But in the 1970s,
00:02:07.780 that community was very, very small.
00:02:10.280 Vanishingly small.
00:02:11.600 So it didn't attract nationwide attention.
00:02:14.880 But in 1997,
00:02:17.840 we elected a Labour government
00:02:18.940 under Tony Blair,
00:02:20.240 and he decided that what we would do
00:02:21.660 is ramp up immigration
00:02:22.700 from the tens of thousands
00:02:24.380 to the hundreds of thousands
00:02:25.880 every year.
00:02:27.040 And so we had a net inflow
00:02:28.360 of somewhere between 250,000
00:02:29.960 to 350,000 people every year.
00:02:32.900 And a large percentage of those
00:02:34.380 have been Pakistani Muslims.
00:02:36.320 So now,
00:02:37.080 Britain is about 5% Muslim,
00:02:39.900 but the distribution of these people
00:02:44.720 is very concentrated
00:02:46.340 in certain urban areas.
00:02:49.700 And what this means
00:02:51.100 is that they have
00:02:52.040 a very insular,
00:02:53.120 tightly-knit community
00:02:54.260 that is often
00:02:56.340 quite more interrelated
00:02:59.340 than the normal Western community is,
00:03:03.380 of course,
00:03:04.160 through consanguineous marriages
00:03:06.160 and essentially cousins,
00:03:09.560 marrying cousins through families,
00:03:10.840 and then all arriving
00:03:12.840 in the same area
00:03:13.700 through this network
00:03:14.740 of connections.
00:03:16.540 And this community
00:03:19.200 has a habit,
00:03:21.640 a kind of cultural preference,
00:03:24.260 maybe you could call it,
00:03:26.180 of what is politely called
00:03:30.460 grooming in this country.
00:03:32.360 And that is to target
00:03:33.740 vulnerable young girls
00:03:35.420 and ply them with drugs
00:03:38.240 and alcohol,
00:03:39.580 emotionally abuse them first.
00:03:43.140 So what they'll do
00:03:45.120 is they'll take
00:03:46.320 a young girl
00:03:48.300 who has obviously
00:03:49.000 a bad home life
00:03:49.860 or they'll,
00:03:50.820 in many cases,
00:03:51.860 attack sort of orphanages
00:03:54.920 or various places
00:03:56.620 where children
00:03:57.960 who don't have access
00:04:00.180 to a stable family life
00:04:01.620 have to stay
00:04:03.120 and make them feel
00:04:06.980 like they belong somewhere.
00:04:08.960 And part of the deal
00:04:10.960 in that relationship
00:04:12.220 is, well,
00:04:14.200 they have to have sex 0.97
00:04:15.100 with lots of the men
00:04:16.000 in that community.
00:04:18.180 This is usually done
00:04:19.840 to underage girls,
00:04:21.320 although it has been done
00:04:22.460 to like, you know,
00:04:23.260 18, 17, 18-year-old girls
00:04:25.600 as well.
00:04:26.160 But it can be done
00:04:27.180 to girls as young
00:04:28.040 as like 11,
00:04:29.060 like incredibly young girls
00:04:30.660 who are incredibly vulnerable
00:04:32.160 and they,
00:04:34.360 on the one scale of it,
00:04:36.220 can just be raped 0.95
00:04:37.100 by the immediate family
00:04:40.300 of the sort of grooming gang.
00:04:43.560 But on the other scale,
00:04:44.700 they are horribly physically abused.
00:04:47.220 On the other side of the scale,
00:04:47.960 they're horribly physically abused.
00:04:49.980 And they are pimped
00:04:51.800 around the country.
00:04:52.820 They're trafficked and pimped
00:04:53.960 to other Muslim-majority enclaves
00:04:57.040 in these various cities.
00:04:58.960 and the abuses
00:05:01.260 that you can quite happily
00:05:03.860 go and find lots of reports
00:05:06.080 and inquiries into this
00:05:07.080 because many have been done
00:05:08.520 and I've covered many of them myself.
00:05:10.880 And it is just the most humiliating,
00:05:14.400 degrading things
00:05:15.660 that are done to these girls. 1.00
00:05:17.380 And so callously.
00:05:19.340 There is no...
00:05:20.700 There's no pretense of compassion
00:05:24.200 for these girls.
00:05:25.540 And because this scandal
00:05:28.520 has been going on
00:05:29.020 for such a long time
00:05:29.780 and it's been identified
00:05:30.920 in 50 different towns
00:05:32.540 and cities in Britain now,
00:05:34.720 pretty much everywhere
00:05:36.640 that this one community has gone,
00:05:39.920 it's been something
00:05:41.380 that the Labour Party,
00:05:42.640 who essentially brought
00:05:43.360 these people in
00:05:44.060 and set up the cultural atmosphere
00:05:46.380 to protect them,
00:05:47.800 to suggest that any criticism
00:05:49.300 of this community
00:05:50.020 was a form of racism
00:05:51.160 and in fact
00:05:51.800 it was just your irrational bigotry
00:05:54.000 against people
00:05:54.580 with brown skin
00:05:55.540 that was to play here
00:05:57.720 when you were critiquing
00:05:58.920 this kind of behaviour.
00:06:00.920 They have been
00:06:02.360 continuing this
00:06:04.160 ever since it came to light
00:06:05.620 and it came to light
00:06:06.720 initially in the early 2000s
00:06:08.820 where you had
00:06:09.340 people like
00:06:10.540 the British National Party
00:06:11.960 who are
00:06:12.800 a kind of actual
00:06:14.760 descendant of a Nazi party
00:06:16.260 first calling Alarm Tope
00:06:18.520 but of course
00:06:19.080 no one wants to hear it.
00:06:21.080 The population of Britain
00:06:21.940 is something like
00:06:23.240 87%, 90%
00:06:25.780 homogenous
00:06:26.460 native Britain at the time
00:06:27.740 and so
00:06:28.780 it was just
00:06:29.840 written off
00:06:31.200 as racism
00:06:31.960 and if it wasn't
00:06:33.560 coming from people
00:06:34.320 who were just kind of
00:06:34.860 essentially about racist
00:06:36.080 maybe it would have been
00:06:37.300 taken more seriously
00:06:37.960 and then a couple
00:06:39.280 of liberal journalists
00:06:40.640 did
00:06:41.080 in about 2003
00:06:42.900 say hang on
00:06:43.580 there is actually
00:06:44.300 something to this
00:06:45.280 but there was a general
00:06:47.100 sort of
00:06:48.280 withdrawing of breath
00:06:51.700 from the subject
00:06:52.680 as in
00:06:53.260 they didn't
00:06:55.120 get cast out
00:06:56.340 of polite society
00:06:57.320 but everyone was like
00:06:58.460 okay but that's
00:06:59.200 very uncomfortable
00:07:00.080 to talk about
00:07:00.860 at the
00:07:01.920 Westminster dinner party
00:07:03.780 circuit
00:07:04.180 where the politicians
00:07:05.560 and the media
00:07:06.220 and the quangocracy 0.97
00:07:07.500 all
00:07:08.480 hang out with each other
00:07:10.240 frankly
00:07:10.700 they go to each other's
00:07:11.520 houses and have dinner parties
00:07:12.600 and congratulate each other
00:07:14.580 and being so progressive
00:07:15.420 that didn't play well there
00:07:17.740 because it was very
00:07:18.220 uncomfortable
00:07:18.660 and because they didn't
00:07:20.300 really care
00:07:20.920 because it was happening
00:07:21.600 to the working class
00:07:22.640 white girls 0.98
00:07:23.780 of north and middle
00:07:25.800 England
00:07:26.300 not their problem
00:07:27.640 not the middle class south
00:07:29.160 and
00:07:30.400 so this
00:07:31.500 issue is left to fester
00:07:32.920 and
00:07:33.260 the fish
00:07:35.140 really did rot
00:07:35.960 from the head down
00:07:36.780 in this case
00:07:37.420 the government
00:07:38.620 the councils
00:07:40.440 the social workers
00:07:41.740 and the police
00:07:42.660 all did everything
00:07:44.220 that they could
00:07:44.800 and this is very
00:07:45.800 very well documented
00:07:46.980 to
00:07:48.360 try and imply
00:07:49.880 that in fact
00:07:50.340 somehow it was the girls
00:07:51.320 that were at fault
00:07:52.120 and some of the quotes
00:07:54.040 from police officers
00:07:55.300 and this
00:07:55.900 is going back to like
00:07:56.780 2006
00:07:57.440 at the time
00:07:59.440 were just
00:08:00.360 mind boggling
00:08:02.080 how they would
00:08:03.160 essentially blame the girls 0.58
00:08:04.220 for trying to get these men
00:08:05.320 who were raping them 0.99
00:08:06.020 in trouble
00:08:06.460 and so what we were
00:08:08.600 essentially exposed to
00:08:09.980 was a politically correct
00:08:10.920 cover up
00:08:11.580 it would look bad
00:08:13.260 if we were to admit
00:08:14.440 that this was coming
00:08:15.600 predominantly
00:08:16.180 almost entirely
00:08:17.260 from one particular community
00:08:19.140 it would look bad
00:08:20.580 if
00:08:21.040 we
00:08:21.920 admitted
00:08:23.240 that the people in charge
00:08:24.940 were essentially
00:08:25.420 trying to cover it up
00:08:26.600 and we can go quite deeply
00:08:28.260 into that if you'd like
00:08:29.140 it would look bad
00:08:30.820 if
00:08:31.360 these girls 0.99
00:08:32.480 were just left
00:08:33.080 to twist in the wind
00:08:34.160 in
00:08:34.760 I mean
00:08:35.540 in many cases
00:08:36.440 they were simply
00:08:38.160 never rescued
00:08:39.220 from their abusers
00:08:40.360 and had to escape
00:08:41.660 on their own
00:08:42.300 this all looks quite bad
00:08:44.260 and so
00:08:44.720 in about
00:08:45.280 2009
00:08:46.540 2010
00:08:47.320 I think it's a little bit
00:08:49.040 earlier than that actually
00:08:49.740 but you have
00:08:50.320 a working class
00:08:51.380 upsurge
00:08:52.400 against this
00:08:53.120 because
00:08:53.420 it becomes apparent
00:08:54.940 to working class people
00:08:56.200 in the sort of
00:08:57.000 middle and north of England
00:08:57.960 that in fact
00:08:59.080 the powers that be
00:09:00.320 are not on their side
00:09:01.320 on this issue
00:09:01.900 they've been completely
00:09:03.140 abandoned
00:09:03.580 they
00:09:04.520 as far as they're
00:09:05.560 concerned
00:09:06.000 the powers that be
00:09:07.260 say it's okay
00:09:08.240 for this community
00:09:09.780 to predate
00:09:11.000 on the other community
00:09:12.300 and so
00:09:13.700 the English
00:09:14.300 Defence League
00:09:14.960 was born
00:09:15.440 and this was
00:09:16.600 an attempt
00:09:17.300 by
00:09:18.220 lower class men 0.66
00:09:20.500 working class men
00:09:21.260 who are not
00:09:22.820 politically connected
00:09:24.240 they have no elite
00:09:24.980 backing
00:09:25.360 they have
00:09:26.520 nothing
00:09:27.600 behind them
00:09:28.480 other than
00:09:29.020 the truth
00:09:29.700 and a moral imperative
00:09:31.380 they took to the streets
00:09:33.500 and said
00:09:33.740 look we are under attack
00:09:34.920 we are collectively
00:09:36.360 our community
00:09:37.240 is under attack
00:09:38.260 from another community
00:09:39.420 and this
00:09:39.880 group was led
00:09:40.920 by a man
00:09:41.600 called Stephen
00:09:42.420 Yanksley-Lennon
00:09:43.180 who people will
00:09:44.120 otherwise know
00:09:44.640 as Tommy Robinson
00:09:45.420 and
00:09:46.940 because they were
00:09:48.420 lowbrow
00:09:49.080 because they were
00:09:50.440 criticizing
00:09:51.860 a newly
00:09:53.160 or mostly
00:09:54.140 newly arrived
00:09:55.000 immigrant
00:09:56.140 non-white 0.52
00:09:57.100 community
00:09:57.760 and because
00:09:59.260 the victims
00:10:00.480 that they were
00:10:01.100 trying to stand by
00:10:02.240 had no connection
00:10:03.780 to the middle class
00:10:04.820 and
00:10:05.900 were generally
00:10:07.000 scorned by them
00:10:07.940 anyway
00:10:08.440 before they'd even
00:10:09.340 become victims
00:10:10.120 it was very easy
00:10:12.380 for our establishment
00:10:13.420 to turn around
00:10:13.960 and say
00:10:14.220 no you're just
00:10:15.340 racists
00:10:16.020 no you're just
00:10:17.120 racists
00:10:17.740 nothing's happening
00:10:19.020 there isn't a
00:10:20.040 grooming gang problem 0.99
00:10:20.840 these girls don't 1.00
00:10:21.920 have any issues
00:10:22.720 in fact the girls
00:10:23.620 themselves are the
00:10:24.260 problem
00:10:24.560 and you are a
00:10:26.540 racist
00:10:27.020 and we will
00:10:28.820 and this is the
00:10:30.060 the most
00:10:30.580 effective campaign
00:10:33.040 of defamation
00:10:33.840 I've ever seen
00:10:35.040 really
00:10:35.600 they turned
00:10:37.640 Tommy Robinson
00:10:38.820 into a kind of
00:10:40.080 demonic figure
00:10:41.000 for the liberal order
00:10:42.040 and all of them
00:10:43.280 did this
00:10:43.700 they are all
00:10:44.240 culpable and complicit
00:10:45.340 in what is
00:10:46.460 effectively a giant
00:10:47.160 cover-up
00:10:47.540 and now they use
00:10:48.520 him as a kind of
00:10:50.100 totemic
00:10:50.860 racist evil
00:10:52.380 now one might ask
00:10:54.480 well give me the
00:10:55.480 quote
00:10:55.800 give me the quote
00:10:57.180 what is the totemic
00:10:58.060 racist thing that he
00:10:58.860 said
00:10:59.260 and you'll notice
00:11:00.640 it's never provided
00:11:01.520 they don't have any
00:11:02.720 snippets of Tommy
00:11:03.560 Robinson
00:11:03.960 being excessively
00:11:05.760 racist
00:11:06.280 or abnormally racist
00:11:07.780 or even particularly
00:11:08.560 racist
00:11:09.120 what they have
00:11:10.580 is a campaign
00:11:12.760 of
00:11:13.480 vibes
00:11:14.860 against him
00:11:15.820 and at this point
00:11:17.480 he is
00:11:18.480 a total pariah
00:11:19.640 he has been
00:11:20.560 targeted by the
00:11:21.540 state
00:11:21.920 he is
00:11:23.120 a political
00:11:24.000 prisoner
00:11:24.480 even if
00:11:25.480 in this case
00:11:26.680 it's not directly
00:11:27.960 related to grooming
00:11:28.900 gangs
00:11:29.320 it's still related
00:11:30.680 to his relationship
00:11:31.780 between
00:11:32.380 with
00:11:33.300 the
00:11:34.120 liberal elite
00:11:35.200 and the
00:11:36.260 the judges
00:11:36.940 the police
00:11:38.400 the
00:11:39.120 the
00:11:39.660 the
00:11:40.780 councillors
00:11:41.480 the MPs
00:11:42.100 the entire
00:11:43.020 the entire
00:11:44.040 structure
00:11:45.000 is set up
00:11:46.620 to
00:11:47.080 well
00:11:48.380 ultimately ruin him
00:11:49.540 like the purpose
00:11:50.340 he's been
00:11:51.040 bankrupted
00:11:51.880 right
00:11:52.220 he has been
00:11:52.740 bankrupted
00:11:53.380 he's lost his
00:11:54.320 property
00:11:54.680 he's had to
00:11:55.580 divorce his wife 0.77
00:11:56.400 he has
00:11:57.260 his
00:11:57.820 his entire life
00:11:59.280 has been ruined
00:12:00.060 by these people
00:12:00.560 he's been deplatformed
00:12:01.400 he's been debanked
00:12:02.320 he has been barred
00:12:03.440 from certain towns
00:12:04.540 and cities
00:12:05.100 he is
00:12:06.720 public enemy number
00:12:07.840 one to these people
00:12:08.920 and his crime
00:12:09.800 really
00:12:10.460 is to expose
00:12:11.860 the floor
00:12:12.440 in multiculturalism
00:12:13.600 and
00:12:14.540 this
00:12:15.420 is the
00:12:16.120 20 year
00:12:17.180 backdrop
00:12:17.800 to what is
00:12:18.820 happening
00:12:19.180 with
00:12:19.460 Elon Musk
00:12:20.140 right now
00:12:21.200 this
00:12:22.220 is all
00:12:24.260 being
00:12:24.580 essentially
00:12:25.480 laid on
00:12:26.380 Elon Musk's
00:12:27.080 desk
00:12:27.440 in the course
00:12:28.360 of a week
00:12:28.840 and because
00:12:29.940 this is so
00:12:30.860 well documented
00:12:31.660 it's been going
00:12:32.800 like I said
00:12:33.260 it's been going
00:12:33.580 for decades
00:12:34.100 we must have
00:12:34.800 had about
00:12:35.060 a dozen
00:12:35.420 inquests
00:12:35.880 at this point
00:12:36.340 because it's
00:12:37.400 all so well
00:12:37.880 documented
00:12:38.360 you get
00:12:39.100 superb
00:12:39.740 journalists
00:12:40.160 the one or two
00:12:41.220 really superb
00:12:42.180 journalists
00:12:42.660 Charlie Peters
00:12:43.880 and Sam Ashworth
00:12:44.840 Hayes
00:12:45.160 are the ones
00:12:45.480 I've been
00:12:45.780 following
00:12:46.020 on this
00:12:46.320 and they
00:12:46.620 are just
00:12:46.980 brilliant
00:12:48.400 because what
00:12:49.100 they've been
00:12:49.380 doing is
00:12:49.920 going through
00:12:50.660 these various
00:12:51.460 reports
00:12:52.120 and just
00:12:53.040 picking out
00:12:53.740 just parts
00:12:55.260 of them
00:12:55.560 this is
00:12:56.100 this is what
00:12:56.880 happened in
00:12:57.340 Oldham
00:12:57.560 this is what
00:12:58.360 happened in
00:12:58.780 Telford
00:12:59.060 this is what
00:12:59.920 happened in
00:13:00.300 Rochdale
00:13:00.640 and posting
00:13:01.880 it out
00:13:02.280 and Elon
00:13:03.300 has seen
00:13:03.860 these
00:13:04.240 and has
00:13:04.920 said wow
00:13:05.260 that seems
00:13:05.860 mind-bogglingly
00:13:07.360 insane
00:13:07.880 that the
00:13:08.680 British state
00:13:09.260 could actually
00:13:10.100 use these
00:13:11.240 English girls
00:13:11.940 these totally
00:13:12.580 vulnerable
00:13:12.940 the most vulnerable
00:13:13.720 people in our
00:13:14.240 society
00:13:14.680 use them as
00:13:15.780 a sacrificial
00:13:16.500 lamb on the
00:13:17.020 altar of
00:13:17.360 multiculturalism
00:13:18.220 because this
00:13:19.140 one community
00:13:20.140 has no ethical
00:13:21.300 problem with it
00:13:22.080 being done
00:13:22.720 and this is
00:13:24.920 where we are
00:13:25.380 now
00:13:25.680 at the moment
00:13:26.620 what they're
00:13:27.040 trying to do
00:13:27.740 is divert
00:13:28.900 the blame
00:13:29.620 and make
00:13:30.200 Jess Phillips
00:13:31.160 who is the
00:13:32.260 Minister for
00:13:33.020 Safeguarding
00:13:33.820 and Women
00:13:34.360 the victim
00:13:36.320 of Elon Musk's
00:13:37.500 tweets
00:13:37.860 instead of
00:13:39.080 the victims
00:13:40.560 of these
00:13:41.080 rape gangs
00:13:41.700 because what
00:13:42.480 they're trying
00:13:42.900 to do
00:13:43.220 ultimately
00:13:43.760 is protect
00:13:44.980 the good
00:13:45.700 standing
00:13:46.140 and dignity
00:13:46.840 of the
00:13:47.700 Pakistani
00:13:48.080 community
00:13:48.760 yeah it's
00:13:50.420 been wild
00:13:50.900 to watch
00:13:51.440 from the
00:13:51.780 outside
00:13:52.180 because like
00:13:53.140 you said
00:13:53.420 whenever I
00:13:54.280 see anyone
00:13:55.340 like Keir
00:13:55.880 Starmer
00:13:56.280 or any of
00:13:56.860 these other
00:13:57.240 government
00:13:57.620 officials
00:13:58.100 many of
00:13:58.700 the British
00:13:59.160 media
00:13:59.540 reacting to
00:14:00.780 this
00:14:01.140 the response
00:14:02.060 is not
00:14:02.540 hey I
00:14:03.360 thought we
00:14:03.800 were protecting
00:14:04.480 women 1.00
00:14:04.840 I thought we
00:14:05.340 were outraged
00:14:06.160 that when
00:14:06.720 women were 1.00
00:14:07.140 victimized
00:14:07.840 of course
00:14:08.460 we should
00:14:09.120 be there
00:14:09.640 for these
00:14:10.560 women 1.00
00:14:10.800 that has
00:14:11.440 not been
00:14:12.100 the response
00:14:12.880 the response
00:14:13.600 has been
00:14:14.220 well Elon
00:14:15.000 Musk is a 0.94
00:14:15.760 foreigner and
00:14:16.600 he's meddling
00:14:17.320 in our affairs
00:14:18.200 right
00:14:18.580 it seems like
00:14:20.060 the effort
00:14:20.840 has been to
00:14:21.500 rally around
00:14:22.420 the very people
00:14:23.440 who are responsible
00:14:24.300 for facilitating
00:14:26.080 this
00:14:27.080 basically a war
00:14:29.180 crime right
00:14:29.660 like if a
00:14:30.340 foreign
00:14:30.920 power was
00:14:32.180 coming into
00:14:32.800 your country
00:14:33.300 and you know
00:14:34.360 working its way
00:14:35.180 through all of
00:14:35.920 your daughters
00:14:36.400 you would
00:14:36.780 recognize this
00:14:37.600 as a war
00:14:38.080 crime of
00:14:38.540 conquest
00:14:39.120 and instead
00:14:40.040 it's being
00:14:41.040 facilitated by
00:14:42.600 the leaders
00:14:43.180 of this
00:14:43.660 country
00:14:44.000 but the
00:14:44.400 response
00:14:44.820 mainly seems
00:14:45.300 to be
00:14:45.560 oh well
00:14:46.220 this is
00:14:46.620 our business
00:14:47.240 and because
00:14:47.680 Elon Musk
00:14:48.280 is outside
00:14:49.720 he is
00:14:50.660 somehow
00:14:51.520 like Putin
00:14:52.400 he's going
00:14:52.940 to try to
00:14:53.340 work on
00:14:53.640 our elections
00:14:54.160 and that's
00:14:54.900 the real
00:14:56.060 crime here
00:14:56.720 not the
00:14:57.440 horrible
00:14:58.020 targeting
00:14:58.660 of women
00:14:59.400 who
00:14:59.660 again
00:15:00.260 many of
00:15:01.120 these
00:15:01.320 gangs
00:15:01.660 felt they
00:15:02.080 were completely
00:15:02.460 justified
00:15:02.840 just because
00:15:03.840 these women 0.99
00:15:04.440 were white
00:15:04.760 sorry
00:15:05.000 sorry to
00:15:06.400 interrupt
00:15:06.660 it's not
00:15:07.140 women 1.00
00:15:07.380 it's girls 0.77
00:15:08.020 it's 12
00:15:09.120 14
00:15:09.700 15 year old
00:15:10.320 girls 0.98
00:15:10.560 they're not
00:15:10.940 women 1.00
00:15:11.180 that's the
00:15:11.720 thing
00:15:12.000 and often
00:15:13.580 they have
00:15:14.100 really broken
00:15:14.980 homes
00:15:15.360 a lot of
00:15:16.080 them are
00:15:16.500 in
00:15:17.240 children's
00:15:18.640 refuges
00:15:19.340 they have
00:15:21.160 chosen
00:15:21.760 these gangs
00:15:22.700 have chosen
00:15:23.160 the very
00:15:23.760 weakest
00:15:24.280 among us
00:15:25.140 to do this
00:15:25.640 to
00:15:25.840 and as a
00:15:26.680 father of
00:15:27.080 two daughters
00:15:27.560 I'm just
00:15:28.140 looking at
00:15:28.520 thinking
00:15:28.840 well they're
00:15:29.780 there but
00:15:30.280 for the grace
00:15:30.660 of God
00:15:31.060 right
00:15:31.260 go my
00:15:31.620 daughters
00:15:32.020 and it
00:15:32.400 could have
00:15:32.860 been anyone
00:15:33.260 could have
00:15:33.740 been absolutely
00:15:34.380 anyone
00:15:34.800 but you
00:15:35.440 are exactly
00:15:36.020 right on
00:15:36.620 that by the
00:15:36.980 way
00:15:37.140 sorry to
00:15:37.520 again sorry
00:15:37.920 to interrupt
00:15:38.220 you you
00:15:38.740 you were
00:15:39.080 completely
00:15:39.380 correct
00:15:39.700 they have
00:15:40.500 circled the
00:15:41.120 wagons on
00:15:41.920 this they
00:15:42.440 have decided
00:15:43.000 this is
00:15:43.400 expressly a
00:15:44.200 partisan
00:15:44.680 political
00:15:45.400 issue
00:15:45.980 the people
00:15:47.120 on the
00:15:47.580 left are
00:15:48.520 pro-rape
00:15:49.400 gang and
00:15:50.240 will defend
00:15:50.880 their record
00:15:51.940 on the
00:15:52.280 rape gangs
00:15:52.800 they will
00:15:53.220 prevent any
00:15:54.320 further inquiry
00:15:55.320 in the
00:15:55.600 rape gangs
00:15:56.120 and the
00:15:56.780 people on
00:15:57.340 the right
00:15:57.820 including most
00:15:58.840 of the
00:15:59.140 conservatives
00:15:59.640 for once
00:16:00.680 are actually
00:16:01.580 on the correct
00:16:02.160 side of the
00:16:02.660 issue
00:16:02.900 reform
00:16:03.500 reform's
00:16:04.780 Rupert Lowe
00:16:05.280 has been
00:16:05.660 leading the
00:16:06.380 charge on
00:16:06.980 this
00:16:07.300 Rupert Lowe
00:16:08.180 went into
00:16:08.660 parliament
00:16:09.000 today where
00:16:09.500 they were
00:16:09.780 the conservatives
00:16:10.640 decided they
00:16:11.280 were going to
00:16:11.520 try and force
00:16:12.120 a vote
00:16:12.720 on a national
00:16:14.080 inquiry into
00:16:15.100 this so most
00:16:15.720 of the inquiries
00:16:16.560 have been
00:16:17.160 regional as in
00:16:18.100 the Rochdale
00:16:18.840 inquiry the
00:16:19.400 Telford
00:16:20.220 inquiry the
00:16:21.180 Rotherham
00:16:21.520 inquiry things
00:16:22.380 like this
00:16:22.780 right so
00:16:23.140 direct local
00:16:23.940 inquiries
00:16:24.520 and when
00:16:26.180 the horrors
00:16:27.920 of what's
00:16:28.320 happened are
00:16:28.780 found out
00:16:29.380 the government
00:16:31.460 and the local
00:16:32.040 council usually
00:16:33.760 fail to implement
00:16:34.900 any of the
00:16:35.520 safeguarding
00:16:36.040 mechanisms
00:16:36.480 because essentially
00:16:37.740 what it would
00:16:38.580 force them to
00:16:39.200 do is admit
00:16:40.680 that there is a
00:16:41.220 problem with
00:16:41.700 this one
00:16:42.060 community
00:16:42.480 why are there
00:16:43.560 Pakistani men
00:16:44.500 hanging around
00:16:45.160 a school all
00:16:46.760 day every day
00:16:47.340 that's a really
00:16:47.840 weird thing
00:16:48.520 isn't it
00:16:48.900 and so they
00:16:49.660 would have to
00:16:50.180 essentially
00:16:50.700 have the
00:16:53.260 authorities there
00:16:54.140 look out for
00:16:55.120 Pakistani men
00:16:56.140 and they would
00:16:56.500 have to expressly
00:16:57.340 state this
00:16:57.920 but of course
00:16:59.260 they can't do
00:16:59.940 that because
00:17:00.520 they're intransigent
00:17:01.560 liberals and to
00:17:02.820 them that would
00:17:03.260 be racism and
00:17:03.900 so they have to
00:17:04.860 essentially do
00:17:06.380 everything with a
00:17:06.900 light touch
00:17:07.420 and so the
00:17:09.340 conservatives and
00:17:10.360 reform in
00:17:12.220 parliament today
00:17:12.860 started actually
00:17:13.860 giving it to the
00:17:14.760 Labour Party
00:17:15.200 and this comes
00:17:16.980 after five days
00:17:17.700 of Elon Musk
00:17:18.180 non-stop
00:17:19.180 hammering the
00:17:20.060 issue
00:17:20.320 and I just
00:17:21.020 want to say
00:17:21.320 personal thank
00:17:22.100 you to Elon
00:17:22.540 Musk for 0.60
00:17:22.940 actually making
00:17:23.720 this the
00:17:24.400 issue
00:17:24.840 because of
00:17:25.700 course in
00:17:26.200 every other
00:17:26.900 time and
00:17:27.840 place in
00:17:28.280 Britain
00:17:28.560 they have
00:17:29.700 no interest
00:17:30.420 in making
00:17:30.880 this a big
00:17:31.360 deal
00:17:31.660 they go out
00:17:32.580 of their
00:17:32.800 way to
00:17:33.680 muffle
00:17:34.680 discussion of
00:17:35.520 it to bury
00:17:36.460 fines and
00:17:37.440 leads on it
00:17:38.020 and say no
00:17:39.020 this is
00:17:39.540 essentially a
00:17:40.160 far right
00:17:40.760 problem
00:17:41.140 let's give it
00:17:41.900 the stink of
00:17:42.540 the far right
00:17:43.140 it's not
00:17:43.720 talked about
00:17:44.220 in the
00:17:44.400 Westminster
00:17:44.720 dinner party
00:17:46.240 circuit
00:17:46.660 and therefore
00:17:47.640 it's low
00:17:48.460 class and
00:17:49.040 racist
00:17:49.440 and we
00:17:50.120 don't want
00:17:50.340 to touch
00:17:50.680 it
00:17:50.840 well Elon
00:17:51.520 Musk is 0.98
00:17:51.900 just too
00:17:52.220 big for
00:17:52.560 them to
00:17:52.860 silence
00:17:53.240 he is
00:17:54.060 just too
00:17:54.820 much
00:17:55.260 he is
00:17:56.020 too
00:17:56.540 dominant
00:17:56.960 on social
00:17:57.680 media
00:17:58.040 you can't
00:17:59.080 have 200
00:17:59.520 million followers
00:18:00.420 and think
00:18:01.320 that the
00:18:01.600 British
00:18:01.800 government
00:18:02.260 is going
00:18:02.700 to be able
00:18:03.000 to silence
00:18:03.520 that
00:18:03.760 and so he
00:18:05.240 has managed
00:18:05.580 to drive
00:18:06.160 this right
00:18:06.800 into the
00:18:07.140 very centre
00:18:07.640 of our
00:18:07.960 political
00:18:08.240 discourse
00:18:08.700 which is
00:18:09.120 superb
00:18:09.500 so the
00:18:10.320 Conservatives
00:18:10.960 who had
00:18:11.580 14 years
00:18:12.520 to do
00:18:12.860 anything
00:18:13.180 about this
00:18:13.780 up until
00:18:14.520 six months
00:18:15.060 ago by the
00:18:15.560 way
00:18:15.780 are
00:18:16.700 opportunistically
00:18:17.640 leaping
00:18:18.440 on the
00:18:18.760 bandwagon
00:18:19.360 the Conservatives
00:18:22.160 actually are
00:18:22.960 leaping on
00:18:23.360 the bandwagon
00:18:23.840 although they
00:18:24.380 did do some
00:18:25.080 small things
00:18:25.900 to try and
00:18:26.960 resolve this
00:18:27.960 problem
00:18:28.300 Swella
00:18:29.040 Braverman
00:18:29.420 under Rishi
00:18:29.900 Sennak
00:18:30.180 in 2023
00:18:30.820 actually did
00:18:31.540 begin a
00:18:32.440 kind of
00:18:32.680 campaign
00:18:33.200 of enforcing
00:18:35.440 with local
00:18:36.200 police
00:18:36.560 authorities
00:18:37.120 some of
00:18:38.100 the suggestions
00:18:39.540 made in
00:18:40.360 the inquiries
00:18:41.120 so there
00:18:42.180 you may have
00:18:42.840 noticed that
00:18:43.360 recently in
00:18:43.800 the past
00:18:44.060 two years
00:18:44.540 there have
00:18:45.340 been more
00:18:45.880 ringleaders
00:18:46.720 arrested of
00:18:47.680 these gangs
00:18:48.180 than usual
00:18:48.780 which is
00:18:49.280 superb
00:18:49.820 but they're
00:18:52.040 just the
00:18:52.660 ringleaders
00:18:53.100 these gangs
00:18:53.840 are prostitution
00:18:55.220 gangs
00:18:55.700 and so the
00:18:56.780 question is
00:18:57.220 well who are
00:18:57.920 the customers
00:18:58.440 but anyway
00:18:59.440 getting back
00:19:01.140 to what's
00:19:01.420 happened today
00:19:02.100 Rupert Lowe
00:19:03.940 stood up and
00:19:04.820 gave just an
00:19:05.360 incredible speech
00:19:06.400 and to this
00:19:07.940 the Labour
00:19:08.320 Party had no
00:19:09.100 response other
00:19:09.740 than to try
00:19:10.200 and tone
00:19:10.740 police him
00:19:11.520 and say
00:19:12.180 could you
00:19:12.560 mind your
00:19:12.980 language please
00:19:13.780 that's inflammatory
00:19:14.600 as if somehow
00:19:16.500 the language he
00:19:17.300 used was worse
00:19:18.040 and so on
00:19:19.660 the Conservatives
00:19:20.700 directive
00:19:22.320 initiative
00:19:23.400 to have a
00:19:24.820 national
00:19:25.500 rape gang
00:19:26.640 inquiry
00:19:27.380 the Labour
00:19:29.220 Party
00:19:29.680 the Green
00:19:30.620 Party
00:19:31.060 and the
00:19:32.500 Liberal
00:19:32.840 Democrats
00:19:33.280 and the
00:19:34.400 independent
00:19:35.460 Muslim MPs
00:19:36.840 of whom there
00:19:37.320 are five
00:19:37.920 essentially just
00:19:39.040 Muslims
00:19:39.520 they all voted
00:19:41.100 no
00:19:41.440 it was
00:19:42.760 111 Conservatives
00:19:44.160 and the
00:19:44.500 five
00:19:44.920 Reform
00:19:45.360 MPs
00:19:46.020 who voted
00:19:46.680 yes
00:19:47.080 so we've
00:19:48.400 got quite
00:19:48.960 some way
00:19:49.520 to go
00:19:49.960 but as you
00:19:50.700 can see
00:19:50.900 the left
00:19:51.340 entirely
00:19:52.460 closed their
00:19:53.260 ranks
00:19:53.580 circled their
00:19:54.260 wagons
00:19:54.640 said nope
00:19:55.220 we are not
00:19:56.200 going to give
00:19:56.860 an inch
00:19:57.400 to the right
00:19:58.300 that's what
00:19:59.220 the underpinning
00:19:59.960 frame of this
00:20:00.980 was
00:20:01.260 we will not
00:20:02.000 give anything
00:20:02.760 to the right
00:20:03.680 wing
00:20:04.140 it doesn't
00:20:04.560 matter
00:20:05.020 how bad
00:20:05.840 the injustice
00:20:06.340 is
00:20:06.640 it doesn't
00:20:07.120 matter
00:20:07.400 how many
00:20:07.840 rapists
00:20:08.460 are getting
00:20:08.900 away with
00:20:09.340 it
00:20:09.520 we are
00:20:10.320 not giving
00:20:10.760 ground
00:20:11.200 to the right
00:20:11.940 now I expect
00:20:13.180 that in the
00:20:13.720 coming six
00:20:15.180 months or so
00:20:15.940 the Labour
00:20:16.860 Party under
00:20:17.480 Keir Starmer
00:20:17.860 actually will
00:20:18.780 start cracking
00:20:19.640 down on these
00:20:20.220 gangs
00:20:20.580 I suspect
00:20:21.760 they actually
00:20:22.240 will try
00:20:23.660 and do
00:20:24.000 something
00:20:24.380 because the
00:20:25.200 optics of
00:20:25.880 this have
00:20:26.200 been so
00:20:26.980 unbelievably
00:20:27.760 terrible
00:20:28.240 for the
00:20:28.700 Labour Party
00:20:29.260 this has
00:20:29.980 just been
00:20:30.280 the worst
00:20:31.280 because of
00:20:31.720 course
00:20:31.960 whenever they
00:20:32.940 try to
00:20:33.380 equivocate
00:20:33.980 or obfuscate
00:20:34.860 on this
00:20:35.280 subject
00:20:35.760 all people
00:20:37.620 here
00:20:38.060 and I
00:20:38.700 think
00:20:38.820 very
00:20:39.060 recently
00:20:39.480 is
00:20:40.280 we are
00:20:42.200 kind of
00:20:42.600 making
00:20:42.800 excuses
00:20:43.200 for the
00:20:43.580 rapists
00:20:44.060 and that
00:20:45.740 seems to
00:20:46.100 be
00:20:46.320 basically
00:20:47.020 what
00:20:47.240 comes
00:20:47.460 out
00:20:47.600 because
00:20:47.820 of
00:20:47.980 course
00:20:48.120 the
00:20:48.280 Labour Party
00:20:48.760 is
00:20:48.900 essentially
00:20:49.220 complicit
00:20:49.780 in all
00:20:50.180 of this
00:20:50.520 and it's
00:20:51.500 not just
00:20:51.840 complicit
00:20:52.260 in the
00:20:52.760 direct
00:20:53.160 sense
00:20:53.580 where
00:20:53.880 Labour Party
00:20:54.920 members
00:20:55.540 like
00:20:56.580 councillors
00:20:57.380 social workers
00:20:59.860 Labour run
00:21:00.520 police forces
00:21:01.420 were either
00:21:02.760 putting out
00:21:04.340 cover for
00:21:04.840 the gangs
00:21:05.240 or in
00:21:06.160 some cases
00:21:06.860 involved in
00:21:07.560 the gangs
00:21:07.920 themselves
00:21:08.380 at least
00:21:08.740 two
00:21:09.040 Muslim
00:21:09.380 police
00:21:09.680 officers
00:21:10.080 have been
00:21:10.960 jailed
00:21:11.840 for being
00:21:12.260 involved in
00:21:12.840 the grooming
00:21:13.140 gangs
00:21:13.460 themselves
00:21:14.040 whenever
00:21:15.460 they're not
00:21:15.880 directly
00:21:16.420 involved
00:21:17.020 the Labour
00:21:17.720 Party of course
00:21:18.380 created this
00:21:19.100 climate of fear
00:21:19.920 where you are not
00:21:20.900 supposed to talk
00:21:21.580 about these things
00:21:22.280 because that would
00:21:23.120 make you a racist
00:21:23.840 and so really
00:21:25.020 the entire
00:21:25.700 organisation
00:21:26.580 of the Labour
00:21:27.380 Party
00:21:27.660 and everything
00:21:28.240 under its
00:21:29.200 purview
00:21:29.680 is complicit
00:21:30.980 in the atmosphere
00:21:32.100 of fear
00:21:32.520 regarding these
00:21:33.560 rape gangs
00:21:34.060 and so you
00:21:35.460 can see
00:21:35.800 they have
00:21:36.200 just put
00:21:36.920 up the
00:21:37.160 walls
00:21:37.440 and said
00:21:37.820 no
00:21:38.000 nothing
00:21:39.080 and all
00:21:39.780 of the
00:21:40.000 other
00:21:40.160 left-wing
00:21:40.540 parties
00:21:41.100 the self-admitted
00:21:43.080 left-wing
00:21:43.420 parties
00:21:43.820 like the
00:21:44.520 normally
00:21:44.760 left-wing
00:21:45.160 party
00:21:45.460 the
00:21:45.620 Conservatives
00:21:46.140 have
00:21:46.920 just all
00:21:47.640 closed
00:21:48.020 ranks
00:21:48.280 and said
00:21:48.520 no
00:21:48.860 victories
00:21:49.420 for the
00:21:49.760 right
00:21:50.060 and so
00:21:51.040 they're
00:21:51.340 going to
00:21:51.800 stonewall
00:21:52.180 this
00:21:52.400 as long
00:21:52.680 as they
00:21:52.920 can
00:21:53.160 we hope
00:21:54.440 you're
00:21:54.580 enjoying
00:21:54.840 your Air
00:21:55.200 Canada
00:21:55.520 flight
00:21:55.960 Rocky's
00:21:56.600 vacation
00:21:57.100 here we
00:21:57.860 come
00:21:58.340 whoa
00:21:59.300 is this
00:21:59.960 economy
00:22:00.500 free beer
00:22:01.540 wine
00:22:02.040 and snacks
00:22:02.940 sweet
00:22:04.060 fast free
00:22:05.060 Wi-Fi means
00:22:05.840 I can make
00:22:06.200 dinner reservations
00:22:06.960 before we
00:22:07.800 land
00:22:08.180 and with
00:22:08.940 live TV
00:22:09.660 I'm not
00:22:10.320 missing the
00:22:10.880 game
00:22:11.200 it's kind
00:22:12.040 of like
00:22:12.400 I'm already
00:22:13.260 on vacation
00:22:14.100 nice
00:22:15.520 on behalf
00:22:16.680 of Air
00:22:16.960 Canada
00:22:17.300 nice travels
00:22:18.520 Wi-Fi
00:22:19.440 available to
00:22:19.940 Airplan
00:22:20.260 members
00:22:20.540 on Equipped
00:22:20.860 Flight
00:22:21.040 sponsored by
00:22:21.600 Bell
00:22:21.760 conditions
00:22:22.140 apply
00:22:22.420 see
00:22:22.620 your
00:22:22.720 Canada
00:22:23.020 dot com
00:22:23.600 now what
00:22:24.680 does that
00:22:25.020 do to
00:22:25.520 the political
00:22:25.980 climate
00:22:26.460 in the UK
00:22:27.780 because obviously
00:22:28.960 we know
00:22:29.960 you know
00:22:30.300 there was the
00:22:30.640 whole no seats
00:22:31.500 thing and
00:22:32.640 the Conservative
00:22:33.320 Party got
00:22:34.060 trounced
00:22:34.500 because they
00:22:35.260 were obviously
00:22:36.200 complicit in
00:22:37.260 the mass
00:22:37.860 immigration
00:22:38.400 and so many
00:22:39.000 other things
00:22:39.380 that people
00:22:39.700 did not
00:22:40.180 want
00:22:40.520 and so
00:22:41.440 they kind
00:22:41.920 of got
00:22:42.220 turned out
00:22:43.380 at the
00:22:43.660 ballot box
00:22:44.500 and labor
00:22:44.940 is very
00:22:46.080 strongly in
00:22:46.680 control
00:22:47.100 and then we
00:22:47.680 had this
00:22:48.200 you know
00:22:48.520 riot
00:22:48.860 over
00:22:49.320 you know
00:22:49.600 these riots
00:22:50.140 after
00:22:50.680 you know
00:22:51.720 a knife
00:22:52.020 attack
00:22:52.380 by an
00:22:52.800 immigrant
00:22:53.160 obviously
00:22:54.180 a Muslim
00:22:54.640 convert
00:22:55.040 someone who's
00:22:56.000 radicalized
00:22:56.480 by
00:22:56.740 Al-Qaeda
00:22:57.460 or ISIS
00:22:57.960 right
00:22:59.020 and so
00:22:59.620 this is
00:23:00.240 obviously
00:23:00.700 you know
00:23:01.440 just a
00:23:02.020 represented
00:23:02.940 what has
00:23:03.760 you have
00:23:04.060 pointed out
00:23:04.700 is a
00:23:05.020 decades long
00:23:05.900 struggle
00:23:06.860 with kind
00:23:07.460 of the
00:23:07.740 average
00:23:08.120 British
00:23:08.480 person
00:23:09.040 and their
00:23:09.700 experience
00:23:10.360 with the
00:23:10.960 type of
00:23:11.240 people who
00:23:11.520 are brought
00:23:11.840 into their
00:23:12.820 country
00:23:13.180 but now
00:23:13.920 you're in
00:23:14.280 this moment
00:23:14.860 where you
00:23:15.340 have all
00:23:15.920 of this
00:23:16.360 bubbling
00:23:16.780 under the
00:23:17.180 surface
00:23:17.420 and it
00:23:17.980 keeps coming
00:23:18.740 out
00:23:19.220 and you
00:23:19.740 have all
00:23:20.080 of these
00:23:20.380 events
00:23:20.700 but there's
00:23:21.380 there seems
00:23:21.920 to be no
00:23:22.300 political
00:23:22.860 representation
00:23:23.520 for all
00:23:25.060 of that
00:23:25.460 anger
00:23:25.820 all of
00:23:26.460 that you
00:23:27.160 know
00:23:27.380 disquiet
00:23:28.500 with what's
00:23:29.000 going on
00:23:29.640 how does
00:23:30.360 this end up
00:23:30.800 manifesting
00:23:31.360 do you think
00:23:31.840 that reform
00:23:32.520 or you know
00:23:33.160 the conservatives
00:23:33.640 get much
00:23:34.020 better
00:23:34.380 there's there
00:23:35.200 is there
00:23:35.680 you know
00:23:35.980 I don't know
00:23:36.320 what the
00:23:36.720 political
00:23:37.260 dynamic
00:23:37.840 is involved
00:23:38.520 in this
00:23:38.880 is there
00:23:39.180 any way
00:23:39.660 that the
00:23:40.020 average
00:23:40.280 British
00:23:40.500 person
00:23:40.960 can have
00:23:41.880 an impact
00:23:42.420 after seeing
00:23:43.200 everything
00:23:43.480 that's
00:23:43.700 happened
00:23:43.940 here
00:23:44.200 yeah
00:23:45.040 there is
00:23:45.540 um
00:23:46.020 reform
00:23:47.140 on their
00:23:48.160 own
00:23:48.800 contain
00:23:50.140 reform
00:23:51.120 composed
00:23:51.660 of Nigel
00:23:52.120 Farage
00:23:52.380 and Richard
00:23:52.780 Tice
00:23:53.160 probably
00:23:53.880 wouldn't go
00:23:54.380 very far
00:23:54.880 on this
00:23:55.200 issue
00:23:55.480 you'll notice
00:23:56.660 that Nigel
00:23:57.080 Farage
00:23:57.420 has made
00:23:58.400 statements
00:23:58.820 about it
00:23:59.140 he has
00:23:59.600 tweeted
00:23:59.960 about it
00:24:00.560 he actually
00:24:01.400 attacked him
00:24:02.000 on this
00:24:02.340 right
00:24:02.560 he did
00:24:03.700 indeed
00:24:04.160 he's
00:24:05.720 always been
00:24:06.280 behind the
00:24:06.780 curve
00:24:07.020 on this
00:24:07.360 issue
00:24:07.600 because
00:24:07.920 it's
00:24:08.280 such
00:24:08.540 an
00:24:08.700 unpleasant
00:24:09.060 issue
00:24:09.520 he doesn't
00:24:11.040 want to be
00:24:11.740 associated
00:24:12.380 with the
00:24:12.920 demands
00:24:13.320 for
00:24:13.560 remigration
00:24:14.300 that have
00:24:15.600 been
00:24:15.840 coming to
00:24:16.680 the fore
00:24:17.000 recently
00:24:17.360 and he
00:24:17.700 said in
00:24:18.100 an interview
00:24:18.420 with Stephen
00:24:18.840 Edgington
00:24:19.260 if I were
00:24:20.600 to I think
00:24:20.960 it was Stephen
00:24:21.300 Edgington
00:24:21.580 it might have
00:24:21.920 been the
00:24:22.100 Winston Marshall
00:24:22.740 one
00:24:23.040 where if he
00:24:24.100 would commit
00:24:24.540 to that
00:24:24.880 it would be
00:24:25.400 all people
00:24:26.060 said about
00:24:26.580 him
00:24:26.860 not seeming
00:24:28.240 to understand
00:24:28.740 that that
00:24:29.080 would make
00:24:29.420 him twice
00:24:30.040 as popular
00:24:30.500 as he is
00:24:30.940 now
00:24:31.240 I think
00:24:31.640 he's been
00:24:35.000 behind the
00:24:35.760 curve on it
00:24:36.160 he has
00:24:36.580 tweeted
00:24:36.880 about it
00:24:37.300 he has
00:24:37.600 made videos
00:24:38.120 about it
00:24:38.700 made statements
00:24:39.960 saying look
00:24:40.540 there needs
00:24:41.460 to be
00:24:41.680 a grooming
00:24:41.960 gang
00:24:42.220 inquiry
00:24:42.720 the Labour
00:24:43.400 Party
00:24:43.740 are covering
00:24:44.140 something up
00:24:44.860 which is why
00:24:45.480 they don't
00:24:45.760 want to have
00:24:46.220 one
00:24:46.420 which is
00:24:46.740 obviously
00:24:47.040 true
00:24:47.440 but he
00:24:48.680 he's always
00:24:49.400 been
00:24:49.740 slightly
00:24:50.520 somewhat of
00:24:51.560 a follower
00:24:52.040 on this
00:24:52.560 issue
00:24:52.820 rather than
00:24:53.200 a leader
00:24:53.600 the two
00:24:55.060 people who
00:24:56.060 really come
00:24:56.460 to mind
00:24:56.760 at the moment
00:24:57.120 as leaders
00:24:57.640 on this
00:24:58.020 issue
00:24:58.280 are of course
00:24:59.440 the person
00:25:00.540 who's currently
00:25:01.040 in jail
00:25:01.540 Tommy Robinson
00:25:02.440 but also
00:25:04.160 Richard
00:25:04.560 Rupert Lowe
00:25:05.440 has come out
00:25:06.680 very very
00:25:07.860 powerfully
00:25:08.500 demanding
00:25:09.620 that there
00:25:10.300 be this
00:25:10.820 inquiry
00:25:11.340 and to
00:25:12.160 actually
00:25:12.680 voice
00:25:13.540 the
00:25:14.080 genuine
00:25:15.120 and authentic
00:25:15.960 concerns
00:25:16.820 of the
00:25:17.100 British public
00:25:17.760 in the
00:25:19.080 House of
00:25:19.720 Commons 0.69
00:25:20.220 like he
00:25:20.960 is not
00:25:22.980 mincing
00:25:23.720 his words
00:25:24.280 he is not
00:25:24.980 giving
00:25:26.200 rhetorical
00:25:26.920 cover
00:25:27.420 by failing
00:25:28.360 to
00:25:28.780 precisely
00:25:30.520 describe
00:25:31.200 the depths
00:25:32.080 of depravity
00:25:32.780 that have been
00:25:33.180 going on
00:25:33.760 and he's been
00:25:34.720 calling for
00:25:35.360 every single
00:25:36.040 person involved
00:25:36.820 in this
00:25:37.280 not just
00:25:38.200 the people
00:25:38.640 who have
00:25:38.980 been raping 0.97
00:25:39.820 and grooming
00:25:40.260 but also
00:25:41.240 the people
00:25:41.720 who knew
00:25:42.220 about it
00:25:42.880 and were
00:25:43.300 covering it
00:25:43.920 up
00:25:44.200 and hiding
00:25:44.860 it
00:25:45.120 and not
00:25:45.500 reporting
00:25:45.920 to the
00:25:46.200 authorities
00:25:46.560 he's calling
00:25:47.440 for every
00:25:48.000 single one
00:25:48.420 of those
00:25:48.680 people
00:25:49.000 so the
00:25:49.680 men
00:25:49.940 their wives 0.94
00:25:50.680 their
00:25:50.900 children
00:25:51.220 all to
00:25:52.560 be deported
00:25:53.320 and that
00:25:54.180 is a
00:25:54.500 great
00:25:55.000 start
00:25:55.280 he is
00:25:56.680 genuinely
00:25:57.100 breaking
00:25:57.560 new ground
00:25:58.260 in the
00:25:59.180 scope
00:25:59.620 of the
00:26:00.640 clean up
00:26:01.080 operation
00:26:01.540 that is
00:26:01.860 going to
00:26:02.200 be required
00:26:02.840 to get
00:26:03.780 rid of
00:26:04.220 these
00:26:04.560 people
00:26:04.800 because
00:26:05.060 one thing
00:26:05.500 that I
00:26:05.700 think
00:26:05.860 a lot
00:26:06.160 of people
00:26:06.420 in America
00:26:06.760 think
00:26:07.220 is that
00:26:08.380 most of
00:26:09.240 these areas
00:26:09.980 are majority
00:26:10.700 Muslim
00:26:11.160 which is
00:26:12.340 not true
00:26:12.880 these areas
00:26:14.280 are still
00:26:15.040 majority
00:26:15.540 English
00:26:16.220 Telford
00:26:17.100 for example
00:26:17.820 the Muslim
00:26:19.480 population
00:26:20.200 in Telford
00:26:20.960 I think
00:26:22.540 the population
00:26:23.280 of Telford
00:26:23.600 is about
00:26:23.900 100,000
00:26:24.560 something like
00:26:24.940 that
00:26:25.100 the Muslim
00:26:25.780 population
00:26:26.320 is
00:26:26.620 4,860
00:26:28.940 that's a
00:26:30.620 very small
00:26:31.180 number
00:26:31.540 and the
00:26:32.480 number
00:26:32.820 of
00:26:33.120 victims
00:26:33.840 the
00:26:35.160 white
00:26:35.820 English
00:26:36.120 girls 0.98
00:26:36.480 in Telford
00:26:37.040 who have
00:26:37.320 been
00:26:37.500 assaulted
00:26:38.240 and raped 0.99
00:26:38.720 and groomed
00:26:39.320 and trafficked
00:26:40.220 is a
00:26:40.940 thousand
00:26:41.540 so that's
00:26:43.680 almost
00:26:44.100 well in fact
00:26:44.720 that's more
00:26:45.420 than
00:26:46.100 that's
00:26:46.660 one
00:26:47.100 English
00:26:47.600 girl 0.91
00:26:47.940 for less
00:26:48.840 than
00:26:49.100 every two
00:26:49.840 adult
00:26:50.360 men
00:26:50.800 Muslim
00:26:52.020 men
00:26:52.300 in
00:26:52.460 Telford
00:26:52.840 in
00:26:53.440 Rotherham
00:26:54.300 it's
00:26:54.460 very
00:26:54.660 similar
00:26:55.020 there are
00:26:55.980 only about
00:26:56.660 seven or
00:26:57.160 eight thousand
00:26:57.720 adult men
00:26:58.700 in Rotherham
00:26:59.420 and there
00:26:59.940 are a thousand
00:27:00.420 four hundred
00:27:00.880 victims
00:27:01.340 so you can
00:27:02.780 see that
00:27:03.300 this is a
00:27:04.040 very
00:27:06.160 widespread
00:27:08.260 problem in
00:27:08.960 this community
00:27:09.500 and it's
00:27:10.500 remarkable
00:27:12.000 and this
00:27:12.660 is
00:27:12.980 when you
00:27:14.460 get to
00:27:15.560 the actual
00:27:16.220 number of
00:27:16.700 convictions
00:27:17.060 as well
00:27:17.540 you get
00:27:18.300 numbers
00:27:18.660 something like
00:27:19.160 one in seven
00:27:20.020 in certain
00:27:20.960 areas
00:27:21.340 I think it was
00:27:21.660 Telford
00:27:22.060 that was one
00:27:22.440 in seven
00:27:22.860 there was another
00:27:23.580 one that was
00:27:23.880 one in eleven
00:27:24.600 men in the
00:27:25.840 Muslim community
00:27:26.520 has been
00:27:27.120 convicted of
00:27:28.200 being in a
00:27:28.680 rape gang
00:27:29.160 well we know
00:27:30.620 that there are
00:27:31.040 going to be
00:27:31.380 many more
00:27:31.820 that haven't
00:27:32.240 been convicted
00:27:32.760 because all
00:27:33.720 of these girls
00:27:34.360 will say
00:27:34.900 well I was
00:27:35.660 raped by 0.99
00:27:36.220 a hundred
00:27:36.760 men
00:27:37.180 and things like
00:27:38.540 this
00:27:38.640 like a hundred
00:27:39.100 different men
00:27:39.980 and we
00:27:41.460 have their
00:27:42.060 testimony where
00:27:42.700 they say
00:27:43.000 things like
00:27:43.480 well I was
00:27:44.320 captured by
00:27:45.060 this guy
00:27:45.780 and he would
00:27:46.760 call his
00:27:47.160 brothers
00:27:47.540 his cousins
00:27:48.320 his friends
00:27:49.040 and they
00:27:49.720 would all
00:27:50.000 come and
00:27:50.340 rape me 0.73
00:27:50.800 and eventually
00:27:52.020 she escaped
00:27:52.520 etc etc
00:27:53.460 and so you
00:27:54.480 realize that
00:27:55.040 there are
00:27:55.660 hundreds of
00:27:56.700 more men
00:27:57.160 in these
00:27:57.720 communities
00:27:58.200 who are
00:28:00.000 not being
00:28:00.820 charged
00:28:01.200 and are
00:28:01.540 just at
00:28:01.940 large now
00:28:02.700 after raping
00:28:03.980 English
00:28:04.500 children
00:28:04.960 and moreover
00:28:06.220 the families
00:28:07.140 know about it
00:28:07.920 the families
00:28:09.040 know that
00:28:10.140 they do this
00:28:10.880 and there was
00:28:11.760 one
00:28:12.200 very recently
00:28:14.440 I can't remember
00:28:14.880 which one it
00:28:15.340 was
00:28:15.540 you'll have
00:28:16.120 to forgive
00:28:16.480 me
00:28:16.640 because this
00:28:17.120 has happened
00:28:17.460 in 50
00:28:17.980 different towns
00:28:18.600 and cities
00:28:19.060 it actually
00:28:19.920 starts blurring
00:28:21.040 into one
00:28:21.520 right
00:28:21.760 you kind of
00:28:22.240 forget
00:28:22.520 in which
00:28:23.360 individual
00:28:24.040 case
00:28:24.680 was it
00:28:25.500 that the
00:28:25.900 men yelled
00:28:26.360 Allah
00:28:26.660 Akbar
00:28:27.040 that was
00:28:27.440 actually in
00:28:27.840 Rochdale
00:28:28.260 where when
00:28:28.800 they were
00:28:29.020 convicted
00:28:29.340 they yelled
00:28:29.760 Allah
00:28:29.980 Akbar
00:28:30.260 I think
00:28:31.380 it was
00:28:31.600 in Oldham
00:28:32.140 where the
00:28:33.420 family of
00:28:34.520 the men
00:28:35.500 who had been
00:28:36.020 raping the
00:28:36.540 children
00:28:36.900 were in the
00:28:38.320 stands watching
00:28:38.900 and he was
00:28:39.380 convicted
00:28:39.800 they led
00:28:40.540 away
00:28:40.720 and his
00:28:41.120 daughters
00:28:41.680 yelled
00:28:42.040 I love
00:28:42.580 you dad
00:28:43.160 from
00:28:43.560 the side
00:28:44.380 it's just
00:28:44.760 like
00:28:45.020 this is
00:28:46.220 mad
00:28:46.860 this is
00:28:47.740 absolutely
00:28:48.420 mad
00:28:48.980 and so
00:28:49.780 the
00:28:50.160 Rupert Lowe
00:28:51.680 has been
00:28:51.940 very firm
00:28:52.440 on this
00:28:52.660 issue
00:28:52.820 going
00:28:53.000 no
00:28:53.120 the people
00:28:54.380 in the
00:28:54.720 community
00:28:55.180 who knew
00:28:55.900 and that's
00:28:56.520 way more
00:28:57.220 than we're
00:28:57.580 admitting
00:28:57.920 that it
00:28:58.300 is
00:28:58.660 they all
00:28:59.540 have to
00:28:59.880 go to
00:29:00.300 yeah
00:29:02.800 there's
00:29:03.400 an incredible
00:29:06.160 failure
00:29:06.760 I guess
00:29:07.540 here
00:29:07.940 on several
00:29:09.460 levels
00:29:09.960 on the
00:29:10.680 ideological
00:29:11.180 one
00:29:11.760 you of
00:29:12.640 course
00:29:12.840 had this
00:29:13.380 idea
00:29:13.860 that
00:29:14.500 multiculturalism
00:29:15.840 was fine
00:29:16.400 because
00:29:16.860 you could
00:29:17.800 just bring
00:29:18.220 people in
00:29:18.900 and everyone
00:29:19.600 would just
00:29:20.660 exist alongside
00:29:21.440 each other
00:29:22.040 these people
00:29:22.520 would just
00:29:23.000 go ahead
00:29:23.500 and assimilate
00:29:24.500 in but of
00:29:25.000 course as you
00:29:25.500 point out
00:29:26.140 they're not
00:29:27.060 only coming
00:29:27.500 from a
00:29:27.880 radically
00:29:28.260 different
00:29:28.800 culture
00:29:29.280 but they're
00:29:30.180 also allowed
00:29:30.720 to exist
00:29:31.200 inside these
00:29:32.100 ethnic ghettos 0.96
00:29:32.960 which allows
00:29:33.400 them to
00:29:33.680 perpetuate
00:29:34.160 that culture
00:29:34.700 they don't
00:29:35.480 have to
00:29:36.040 blend in
00:29:36.580 they don't
00:29:36.900 have to
00:29:37.540 learn the
00:29:38.500 ways or
00:29:38.880 customs
00:29:39.220 of the
00:29:39.920 UK
00:29:40.160 they don't
00:29:40.660 need to
00:29:41.080 adapt
00:29:41.500 because they
00:29:42.540 can live
00:29:42.900 their entire
00:29:43.420 lives
00:29:43.940 inside these
00:29:44.920 kind of
00:29:45.220 ethnic
00:29:45.540 conclaves
00:29:46.300 or enclaves
00:29:47.300 and we have
00:29:48.020 unfortunately
00:29:48.880 lesser degrees
00:29:50.340 of that
00:29:50.760 here in the
00:29:51.600 United States
00:29:52.520 but I think
00:29:53.400 a lot of
00:29:54.000 people who
00:29:54.940 listen to
00:29:55.660 this are
00:29:56.280 thinking to
00:29:56.780 themselves
00:29:57.200 where are
00:29:58.160 the dads
00:29:58.840 where are
00:29:59.520 the fathers
00:30:00.100 where are
00:30:00.640 the brothers
00:30:01.160 of these
00:30:02.240 people
00:30:02.680 how could
00:30:03.380 they let
00:30:03.760 this happen
00:30:04.340 and I
00:30:04.880 get that
00:30:05.360 reaction
00:30:05.900 but at
00:30:06.760 the same
00:30:07.140 time
00:30:07.640 these are
00:30:08.160 the same
00:30:08.500 people who
00:30:09.420 let themselves
00:30:10.420 get locked
00:30:10.960 inside during
00:30:11.760 COVID even
00:30:12.740 though we
00:30:13.480 have the
00:30:13.840 second amendment
00:30:14.280 let me
00:30:14.760 interrupt you
00:30:15.280 again sorry
00:30:15.900 so two
00:30:17.180 things on
00:30:17.620 this the
00:30:18.180 first one
00:30:18.540 is most
00:30:19.640 communities
00:30:20.260 in Britain
00:30:20.660 don't do
00:30:21.100 this right
00:30:21.740 most of the
00:30:22.320 foreign
00:30:22.600 communities
00:30:23.080 in Britain
00:30:23.400 now there's
00:30:23.960 a different
00:30:24.320 issue with
00:30:24.900 just the
00:30:25.660 sheer number
00:30:26.400 of people
00:30:27.000 who have
00:30:27.320 come to
00:30:27.820 Britain
00:30:28.100 which is
00:30:28.880 displacing the
00:30:29.820 native English
00:30:30.320 from their own
00:30:30.820 cities
00:30:31.140 that's a
00:30:32.320 different issue
00:30:32.980 but most of
00:30:34.000 the other
00:30:34.240 communities
00:30:34.720 the Indians
00:30:35.980 the Chinese
00:30:37.120 the Africans 0.56
00:30:38.240 they don't form
00:30:39.780 grooming gangs
00:30:40.700 like this
00:30:41.460 this seems to be
00:30:42.280 a specifically
00:30:43.360 Islamic phenomenon
00:30:45.600 actually
00:30:46.660 so I don't want
00:30:49.120 all of the
00:30:50.100 migrant communities
00:30:50.780 to be tarred
00:30:51.260 with the same
00:30:51.600 brush on this
00:30:52.240 this is a
00:30:53.240 peculiar evil
00:30:54.440 to one
00:30:55.200 kind of
00:30:55.700 community
00:30:56.240 most of
00:30:57.240 the others
00:30:57.580 I mean
00:30:57.980 you know
00:30:58.520 again
00:30:59.580 demographic
00:31:00.340 issues aside
00:31:01.460 most of
00:31:02.360 the others
00:31:02.620 are not
00:31:03.140 predatory
00:31:04.960 most of
00:31:05.640 the others
00:31:05.860 are completely
00:31:06.800 fine
00:31:07.240 like no one
00:31:08.080 has a personal
00:31:08.880 objection to
00:31:09.540 like the
00:31:09.780 Nepalese
00:31:10.240 community
00:31:10.740 or the
00:31:11.940 Chinese
00:31:12.700 community
00:31:13.120 or something
00:31:13.420 like this
00:31:13.740 you know
00:31:13.940 they're all
00:31:14.740 perfectly
00:31:16.020 reasonable
00:31:16.740 people to
00:31:17.220 have around
00:31:17.700 the second
00:31:19.460 point is
00:31:19.880 where are
00:31:20.160 the fathers
00:31:20.580 where are
00:31:20.920 the dads
00:31:21.300 well that's
00:31:21.880 what the
00:31:22.100 EDL was
00:31:22.860 they get
00:31:23.900 arrested
00:31:24.360 they get
00:31:25.240 arrested
00:31:25.740 by the
00:31:26.320 police
00:31:26.700 there are
00:31:27.680 so many
00:31:28.340 cases
00:31:28.820 and you'll
00:31:29.360 be easily
00:31:30.420 able to
00:31:30.940 find this
00:31:31.400 if you just
00:31:32.220 search rape 0.97
00:31:32.840 gang dad
00:31:33.720 on twitter
00:31:34.380 you'll find
00:31:35.260 what happens
00:31:35.780 to the dads
00:31:36.280 is that the
00:31:37.340 dads will go
00:31:38.260 to the houses
00:31:38.900 where the
00:31:39.620 Muslim and
00:31:40.060 the adult
00:31:40.500 Muslim men
00:31:41.080 have a
00:31:41.920 13 year old
00:31:42.600 or something
00:31:42.880 like that
00:31:43.240 to get her
00:31:44.120 out
00:31:44.440 and they
00:31:45.300 will call
00:31:45.820 the police
00:31:46.480 and the
00:31:46.960 police will
00:31:47.380 arrest
00:31:47.700 the father
00:31:48.180 this happened
00:31:49.560 over and
00:31:50.320 over again
00:31:51.120 and the
00:31:52.320 working men
00:31:53.000 were beaten
00:31:53.900 down
00:31:54.520 they were
00:31:55.940 suddenly
00:31:56.360 oh it's
00:31:57.780 us against
00:31:58.500 the Muslims
00:31:59.020 and the
00:31:59.920 police
00:32:00.380 the police
00:32:01.500 are on
00:32:01.840 their side
00:32:02.560 and we
00:32:03.380 have no
00:32:04.160 sympathy
00:32:04.980 or grace
00:32:05.760 from the
00:32:06.400 state
00:32:06.740 and I
00:32:07.860 mean the
00:32:08.140 police's
00:32:08.520 attitude
00:32:08.940 towards these
00:32:09.700 girls was 0.99
00:32:10.140 just shocking
00:32:10.880 absolutely
00:32:11.880 shocking
00:32:12.420 they would
00:32:13.360 essentially
00:32:13.720 criminalize
00:32:14.280 the girls 0.99
00:32:14.720 treat them
00:32:15.140 like and
00:32:15.540 they would
00:32:15.800 call them
00:32:16.040 quote unquote
00:32:16.480 child
00:32:17.140 prostitutes 0.97
00:32:18.020 of course
00:32:18.720 there's no
00:32:18.980 such thing
00:32:19.420 as a child
00:32:19.840 prostitute
00:32:20.440 what you
00:32:21.020 have is a
00:32:21.380 rape victim 0.94
00:32:21.840 they would
00:32:23.520 treat them
00:32:24.040 as if they
00:32:24.660 were doing
00:32:25.440 something wrong
00:32:26.400 to the Muslim
00:32:27.100 community
00:32:27.640 and the Muslim
00:32:28.100 community was
00:32:28.620 the victim
00:32:29.140 of these
00:32:30.260 girls 0.98
00:32:30.780 and so you
00:32:32.340 would get it
00:32:32.980 over and over
00:32:33.420 and over
00:32:33.680 where the police
00:32:34.120 would either
00:32:34.360 just turn a
00:32:34.920 blind eye
00:32:35.660 or just
00:32:37.000 actively protect
00:32:38.020 them from
00:32:39.020 their own
00:32:39.520 from the
00:32:40.000 families of
00:32:40.560 these girls 0.99
00:32:41.060 and so
00:32:42.300 that has
00:32:43.100 I think
00:32:43.520 created a
00:32:44.300 great deal
00:32:45.440 of demoralization
00:32:46.460 in the
00:32:47.520 working class
00:32:48.100 English
00:32:48.480 and I
00:32:49.820 think that
00:32:50.380 they don't
00:32:50.920 have anyone
00:32:51.740 they can
00:32:52.200 rely on
00:32:52.840 and the
00:32:53.620 structures
00:32:53.980 of the
00:32:54.400 state
00:32:54.900 prevent them
00:32:56.260 from getting
00:32:57.020 involved
00:32:57.560 they literally
00:32:58.380 lock them
00:32:58.940 up
00:32:59.180 so this
00:33:00.960 is what
00:33:01.400 really I
00:33:01.920 think was
00:33:02.540 the energy
00:33:03.120 underneath
00:33:03.480 the Southport
00:33:04.060 riots
00:33:04.460 something terrible
00:33:06.020 happened
00:33:06.420 it wasn't
00:33:07.060 clear at the
00:33:07.520 time that it
00:33:08.060 was a Muslim
00:33:08.560 attack
00:33:09.040 and yet
00:33:09.860 people went
00:33:10.400 ballistic at
00:33:11.280 Muslims
00:33:11.940 because this
00:33:13.180 has been
00:33:13.760 a very
00:33:15.780 deep wound
00:33:17.120 that is
00:33:17.920 scarring our
00:33:18.480 country and
00:33:18.900 has done for
00:33:19.420 many many
00:33:19.780 years and
00:33:20.560 they have
00:33:21.320 no sucker
00:33:22.600 on it
00:33:23.300 and you'll
00:33:23.880 notice the
00:33:24.200 first thing
00:33:24.620 that Keir Starmer
00:33:25.180 did for that
00:33:25.800 was come out
00:33:26.540 and declare
00:33:26.900 30 million
00:33:27.580 pounds defense
00:33:28.400 for mosques
00:33:29.120 which really
00:33:30.360 must have
00:33:30.880 resolved the
00:33:32.520 issue to
00:33:33.240 everyone's
00:33:33.580 satisfaction
00:33:34.120 where did
00:33:36.820 the obsession
00:33:38.100 with needing
00:33:40.340 to be
00:33:40.620 multicultural
00:33:41.260 needing to
00:33:42.420 be so
00:33:43.160 incredibly
00:33:43.740 worried about
00:33:44.820 being called
00:33:45.420 racist where
00:33:46.220 you would
00:33:46.940 lock people 0.85
00:33:48.620 up for
00:33:49.300 defending their
00:33:49.860 own children
00:33:50.440 how did
00:33:51.140 this seep
00:33:51.560 into the
00:33:51.900 system
00:33:52.220 is this
00:33:52.600 from
00:33:53.200 Britain
00:33:54.300 did the
00:33:54.660 ruling class
00:33:55.060 learn it
00:33:55.480 somewhere else
00:33:56.240 has this
00:33:56.940 always been
00:33:57.380 a feature
00:33:57.760 of British
00:33:58.620 approach
00:33:59.960 how did
00:34:00.980 this come
00:34:01.360 into play
00:34:01.780 so it
00:34:04.380 begins with
00:34:05.120 a kind
00:34:06.700 of proto
00:34:07.520 version
00:34:08.080 of woke
00:34:09.040 ideology
00:34:09.640 the sort
00:34:10.920 of global
00:34:11.380 international
00:34:11.980 liberal order
00:34:12.940 that was being
00:34:13.940 constructed in
00:34:14.900 the late 90s
00:34:15.860 with the sort
00:34:16.280 of Clinton
00:34:16.860 slash Tony
00:34:18.180 Blair era
00:34:18.820 and this
00:34:20.540 carried on
00:34:21.180 into the
00:34:21.560 Obama era
00:34:22.260 this ideology
00:34:23.820 that seems
00:34:25.960 to have just
00:34:26.460 captured
00:34:26.960 my entire
00:34:28.740 country
00:34:29.240 and your
00:34:29.840 left wing
00:34:30.520 the Democrats
00:34:31.660 in particular
00:34:32.180 obviously
00:34:32.480 so
00:34:33.320 it's hard
00:34:36.840 to say
00:34:37.500 the
00:34:38.580 I don't
00:34:44.740 want to
00:34:44.980 commit to
00:34:45.300 anything
00:34:45.540 that I
00:34:45.800 can't
00:34:46.200 specifically
00:34:46.780 prove
00:34:47.460 right
00:34:47.960 so
00:34:48.540 I know
00:34:50.140 that everyone
00:34:50.460 will say
00:34:50.740 well this
00:34:51.080 is critical
00:34:51.500 race theory
00:34:52.000 or woke
00:34:52.400 isn't
00:34:52.680 it's like
00:34:53.280 kind of
00:34:54.080 but not
00:34:54.480 quite
00:34:54.940 there's a
00:34:57.140 kind of
00:34:57.460 set of
00:34:57.780 liberal
00:34:58.080 presuppositions
00:34:59.020 that underpin
00:34:59.660 this
00:35:00.040 that became
00:35:01.060 very easy
00:35:02.000 to believe
00:35:03.000 when you're
00:35:04.440 in a very
00:35:04.920 homogenous
00:35:05.620 high trust
00:35:06.120 society
00:35:06.660 essentially
00:35:07.540 well everyone's
00:35:08.140 just like us
00:35:08.860 and the
00:35:09.960 small number
00:35:10.600 of immigrants
00:35:11.100 who are in
00:35:11.540 the society
00:35:12.120 are forced
00:35:13.420 to integrate
00:35:13.820 and so they
00:35:14.160 become just
00:35:14.900 like us
00:35:15.520 and so
00:35:17.100 well surely
00:35:18.580 that is just
00:35:19.120 reflective of the
00:35:19.820 entire world
00:35:20.500 and that
00:35:21.920 that is
00:35:22.480 something that
00:35:23.000 came out of
00:35:23.680 I think just
00:35:24.180 90s western
00:35:25.220 liberalism
00:35:26.100 I don't
00:35:26.860 think this
00:35:27.220 was a
00:35:27.480 particular
00:35:27.920 attack by
00:35:29.180 Marxists
00:35:30.100 or anything
00:35:30.400 like this
00:35:30.860 in academia
00:35:31.420 that came
00:35:32.500 later
00:35:32.800 now critical
00:35:33.680 race theory
00:35:34.040 was bubbling
00:35:34.820 away in
00:35:35.200 academia
00:35:35.640 concurrently
00:35:36.320 to this
00:35:36.740 but it
00:35:37.320 wasn't
00:35:37.620 influential
00:35:38.120 and it
00:35:38.600 didn't have
00:35:38.960 a direct
00:35:39.420 impact
00:35:40.060 or influence
00:35:41.080 on this
00:35:42.280 kind of
00:35:42.580 culture
00:35:42.800 this was
00:35:43.240 just a
00:35:43.800 kind of
00:35:44.240 well-meaning
00:35:45.440 again just
00:35:46.560 liberal
00:35:47.260 world view
00:35:48.600 moving into
00:35:49.540 the 2000s
00:35:50.620 and you
00:35:52.120 have quite
00:35:53.340 open
00:35:55.240 cultures
00:35:56.320 quite an
00:35:57.060 open
00:35:57.300 popular
00:35:57.800 culture
00:35:58.200 that
00:35:58.500 finds
00:36:00.120 that there's
00:36:00.740 no argument
00:36:01.500 for racism
00:36:02.900 and therefore
00:36:04.160 it
00:36:05.240 becomes easy
00:36:07.480 to say
00:36:07.960 that racism
00:36:08.700 is in all
00:36:10.020 circumstances
00:36:10.580 and all
00:36:10.840 times
00:36:11.140 the worst
00:36:12.320 evil
00:36:12.800 possible
00:36:13.380 now I'm
00:36:14.280 obviously not
00:36:14.640 in favour
00:36:15.140 of racism
00:36:15.760 but it's not
00:36:16.800 the worst
00:36:17.240 thing that a
00:36:17.660 person can
00:36:18.120 do
00:36:18.480 and when
00:36:19.300 you're living
00:36:19.700 in a mostly
00:36:20.820 white English
00:36:21.860 country
00:36:22.380 where people
00:36:23.600 have no
00:36:24.800 pressure
00:36:25.360 to worry
00:36:26.600 about minority
00:36:27.480 concerns
00:36:28.180 then racism
00:36:30.000 as a luxury
00:36:30.880 belief
00:36:31.180 and anti-racism
00:36:32.240 as a luxury
00:36:32.740 belief
00:36:33.140 well it's
00:36:34.380 quite plausible
00:36:34.980 and why would
00:36:35.600 you want to
00:36:36.060 be racist
00:36:36.480 there's no
00:36:36.920 reason to
00:36:37.500 be
00:36:37.620 and you know
00:36:38.140 everyone might
00:36:38.560 have known
00:36:38.980 like an
00:36:39.680 Indian family
00:36:40.480 or a black 0.97
00:36:40.980 family or
00:36:41.440 something
00:36:41.660 you know
00:36:42.160 because the
00:36:42.980 number of
00:36:43.320 immigrants in 0.91
00:36:43.880 England was 0.98
00:36:44.360 actually really
00:36:44.960 quite low
00:36:45.520 and so why
00:36:46.660 would you want
00:36:47.140 to be mean
00:36:47.580 to them
00:36:47.980 because of
00:36:48.580 course being
00:36:49.320 in small
00:36:49.920 number
00:36:50.100 they had
00:36:50.420 to integrate
00:36:50.800 so there
00:36:51.700 was no
00:36:52.280 argument in
00:36:53.340 favour of a
00:36:53.880 kind of
00:36:54.160 in-group
00:36:54.560 bias
00:36:54.960 it was
00:36:55.460 unfair
00:36:55.920 and it
00:36:56.200 was unfair
00:36:56.900 you know
00:36:57.300 it would have
00:36:57.680 been unfair
00:36:58.080 to just
00:36:58.980 arbitrarily treat
00:37:00.120 this one
00:37:00.880 immigrant family
00:37:01.620 as lepers
00:37:02.760 or something
00:37:03.280 just because
00:37:03.700 of their
00:37:03.860 immigrants
00:37:04.020 that's a
00:37:04.500 very horrible
00:37:05.000 thing to do
00:37:05.540 but this
00:37:07.520 becomes an
00:37:09.360 unquestionable
00:37:10.080 moral dictum
00:37:11.260 where there's
00:37:12.540 never any
00:37:13.620 reason to
00:37:14.520 worry about
00:37:14.900 anything
00:37:15.220 regardless of
00:37:16.100 what is being
00:37:16.600 done
00:37:16.980 and at
00:37:18.500 this point
00:37:18.940 I mean
00:37:19.140 no one's
00:37:19.580 like no one's
00:37:20.380 for racism
00:37:21.240 but the
00:37:22.600 idea that
00:37:23.360 racism is
00:37:24.160 the worst
00:37:24.740 thing
00:37:25.120 is just
00:37:26.200 obviously not
00:37:27.000 correct
00:37:27.420 and this has
00:37:28.500 been shown
00:37:28.980 in the rape
00:37:29.840 gangs
00:37:30.200 because the
00:37:31.200 obviously the
00:37:31.760 main charge
00:37:32.520 against everyone
00:37:33.520 who has been
00:37:34.460 saying I think
00:37:35.440 there might be a
00:37:35.920 problem with the
00:37:36.260 Pakistani community
00:37:37.120 when it comes
00:37:37.720 to these rape
00:37:38.360 gangs
00:37:38.680 it's something
00:37:39.200 they do a lot
00:37:39.780 well that is
00:37:41.220 race-ist
00:37:42.500 as in that is
00:37:43.400 applying it to
00:37:44.120 a particular
00:37:44.560 group
00:37:44.920 and so
00:37:46.000 the Tommy
00:37:47.540 Robinsons of
00:37:48.300 the world
00:37:48.620 are created
00:37:49.220 through this
00:37:50.040 kind of
00:37:50.900 machination
00:37:51.700 and now we
00:37:52.920 have to decide
00:37:53.820 well which one
00:37:54.440 was worse
00:37:55.160 and actually I
00:37:56.260 think Norm
00:37:57.340 McDonald style
00:37:58.080 the raping was
00:37:58.800 worse actually
00:37:59.560 I think that's
00:38:00.000 the worst part
00:38:00.580 yeah there's an
00:38:02.640 interesting dynamic
00:38:03.560 here like you
00:38:04.480 pointed out with
00:38:05.080 class because
00:38:06.320 you know the
00:38:07.360 United States
00:38:07.940 doesn't have
00:38:08.680 quite as hard
00:38:09.700 a distinction
00:38:10.300 but we have a
00:38:11.620 similar scenario
00:38:12.340 where our south
00:38:13.240 is like your
00:38:13.880 north right
00:38:14.640 the southeast
00:38:15.360 in the United
00:38:16.020 States is
00:38:16.700 everybody gets
00:38:18.720 their you know
00:38:20.080 credibility by
00:38:21.100 insulting you
00:38:22.040 know white
00:38:22.360 working class
00:38:22.940 people from
00:38:23.660 the south
00:38:25.160 in the United
00:38:25.680 States
00:38:25.920 or from
00:38:26.200 Appalachia
00:38:26.840 yeah yeah
00:38:27.740 yeah even
00:38:28.420 right wingers
00:38:31.320 even you know
00:38:32.300 cosmopolitan
00:38:32.860 right wingers
00:38:33.400 will do it
00:38:34.140 just to signal
00:38:35.360 themselves as
00:38:36.220 being you know
00:38:37.100 superior
00:38:37.500 and our
00:38:39.740 immigration problem 0.89
00:38:40.760 tended to be
00:38:41.940 centered
00:38:42.480 specifically on
00:38:43.680 our border
00:38:44.120 states
00:38:44.620 for the most
00:38:45.420 part which
00:38:45.880 were conservative
00:38:46.860 red states
00:38:47.980 you know they
00:38:48.500 were you know
00:38:49.500 Florida and
00:38:50.560 Texas and these
00:38:51.620 kind of states
00:38:52.240 and so it
00:38:53.160 wasn't really a
00:38:53.820 problem for the
00:38:54.940 rest of the
00:38:55.740 country sure
00:38:56.340 Venezuelans might 0.59
00:38:57.120 be taking over
00:38:57.740 apartment complexes
00:38:58.620 but they're not
00:38:59.840 the apartment
00:39:00.440 complexes for
00:39:01.120 anyone that
00:39:01.460 matters so it
00:39:02.120 must just be
00:39:02.740 that those guys
00:39:03.220 are racist
00:39:04.020 all the people
00:39:04.600 in the south
00:39:05.120 who are having
00:39:05.620 to actually deal
00:39:06.320 with the problem
00:39:06.820 are racist
00:39:07.320 and one of the
00:39:09.380 things that being
00:39:10.460 in the lower
00:39:11.120 class lets you
00:39:12.080 do ironically
00:39:12.880 is be cut
00:39:14.120 off from the
00:39:15.320 propaganda
00:39:15.860 not that there
00:39:17.340 aren't people
00:39:17.860 who are
00:39:18.160 propagandized
00:39:18.960 in our area
00:39:19.620 but you
00:39:20.660 because you
00:39:21.600 are not in
00:39:22.280 the realm
00:39:23.240 of influence
00:39:23.820 you're not
00:39:24.200 even worth
00:39:25.100 propagandizing
00:39:26.580 you're below
00:39:27.260 you're below
00:39:28.580 the efforts
00:39:29.300 of those
00:39:29.800 who are doing
00:39:30.460 it you're not
00:39:30.860 plugged into
00:39:31.360 the same
00:39:31.700 institutions
00:39:32.280 and so you
00:39:33.140 can continue
00:39:33.720 to hold
00:39:34.340 beliefs that
00:39:35.200 are unpopular
00:39:36.140 you're kind
00:39:36.660 of you know
00:39:37.920 you're exiled
00:39:38.720 but you're
00:39:39.100 also quarantined
00:39:40.680 away from
00:39:41.540 you know
00:39:41.880 some of this
00:39:42.560 contagion
00:39:43.620 and so I
00:39:44.560 wonder you
00:39:45.320 know is there
00:39:46.600 any dynamic
00:39:47.480 because in the
00:39:48.360 United States
00:39:48.780 one of the
00:39:49.040 things that
00:39:49.360 big you know
00:39:50.140 really changed
00:39:50.780 things was
00:39:51.820 actually you
00:39:52.700 know funny
00:39:52.980 enough a lot
00:39:53.340 of people
00:39:53.640 were very
00:39:54.400 against this
00:39:54.900 when it first
00:39:55.280 started but
00:39:56.080 you had
00:39:56.500 Greg Abbott
00:39:57.040 of Texas
00:39:57.520 and Ron
00:39:58.080 DeSantis
00:39:58.320 of Florida
00:39:58.800 and they
00:39:59.220 just started
00:39:59.640 busing the
00:40:00.560 migrants up 1.00
00:40:01.600 to you know
00:40:02.380 the places
00:40:02.920 Martha's Vineyard
00:40:04.140 and places
00:40:04.580 where
00:40:04.840 right right
00:40:07.120 like you know
00:40:07.980 the people
00:40:08.540 who were
00:40:09.000 making these
00:40:09.720 decisions
00:40:10.040 were actually
00:40:10.500 going to be
00:40:10.920 affected by
00:40:11.600 these decisions
00:40:12.280 and you know
00:40:13.400 you had
00:40:13.840 the wildly
00:40:15.060 left-wing
00:40:15.600 mayor of New
00:40:16.140 York saying
00:40:16.480 we gotta stop
00:40:17.140 this immigration
00:40:17.740 stuff because
00:40:18.740 it was actually
00:40:19.700 impacting him
00:40:20.400 now is
00:40:21.260 is there any
00:40:22.100 sense in which
00:40:23.500 that dynamic
00:40:24.460 could be flipping
00:40:25.140 obviously you
00:40:25.720 don't want to
00:40:26.400 ship rapists
00:40:27.300 into different
00:40:28.120 parts of the
00:40:28.940 UK but but a
00:40:30.040 way in which
00:40:30.660 that you can
00:40:31.120 kind of break
00:40:31.740 through that
00:40:32.540 that class
00:40:33.260 barrier divide
00:40:34.200 that's making
00:40:35.120 it very difficult
00:40:35.780 for them to
00:40:36.360 address this
00:40:37.000 option instead
00:40:37.760 they're just
00:40:38.080 doubling down
00:40:38.880 on protecting
00:40:39.520 these gangs
00:40:40.220 when does fast
00:40:42.680 grocery delivery
00:40:43.520 through Instacart
00:40:44.300 matter most
00:40:45.020 when your famous
00:40:46.040 grainy mustard
00:40:46.780 potato salad
00:40:47.580 isn't so famous
00:40:48.560 without the
00:40:49.040 grainy mustard
00:40:49.660 when the barbecue
00:40:50.760 is lit but
00:40:51.500 there's nothing
00:40:51.920 to grill
00:40:52.440 when the in-laws
00:40:53.520 decide that
00:40:54.180 actually they
00:40:55.140 will stay for
00:40:55.780 dinner
00:40:56.100 Instacart has
00:40:57.140 all your groceries
00:40:57.920 covered this
00:40:58.480 summer so
00:40:59.240 download the app
00:41:00.060 and get delivery
00:41:00.800 in as fast as
00:41:01.660 60 minutes
00:41:02.400 plus enjoy
00:41:03.280 zero dollar
00:41:03.920 delivery fees
00:41:04.640 on your first
00:41:05.240 three orders
00:41:06.020 service fees
00:41:06.840 exclusions and
00:41:07.600 terms apply
00:41:08.280 Instacart
00:41:09.200 groceries that
00:41:10.300 over deliver
00:41:10.960 I don't think
00:41:14.100 that there will
00:41:15.560 be a tremendous
00:41:16.560 amount of sympathy
00:41:17.540 from the middle
00:41:18.220 class towards the
00:41:19.000 working class
00:41:19.700 because the
00:41:22.280 working class
00:41:22.860 used to be the
00:41:23.440 majority of people
00:41:24.100 in this country
00:41:24.700 used to be
00:41:25.340 something like
00:41:25.660 60% of the
00:41:27.160 country was
00:41:27.560 working class
00:41:28.120 we go back
00:41:28.480 like 100 years
00:41:29.380 and now it's
00:41:31.400 about 30%
00:41:32.180 of the country
00:41:32.960 that work
00:41:33.320 in class
00:41:33.800 and through
00:41:35.060 the 80s
00:41:36.080 and 90s
00:41:36.940 a large number
00:41:38.520 of working
00:41:39.580 class people
00:41:40.260 worked their
00:41:40.820 way into
00:41:41.500 the middle
00:41:41.840 class
00:41:42.280 my family is
00:41:43.460 actually an
00:41:43.860 example of
00:41:44.380 this
00:41:44.540 the reason I
00:41:45.040 have such
00:41:45.880 a neutral
00:41:46.560 accent
00:41:47.180 is because
00:41:47.940 my father
00:41:48.620 began
00:41:49.480 very working
00:41:50.560 class
00:41:51.060 joined the
00:41:51.900 military
00:41:52.180 and I got
00:41:53.020 to have a
00:41:53.520 lower middle
00:41:53.860 class
00:41:54.180 upbringing
00:41:54.600 a large
00:41:57.000 number of
00:41:57.360 people did
00:41:58.440 that
00:41:58.700 and one
00:41:59.540 of the
00:41:59.860 things that
00:42:00.500 the middle
00:42:00.820 class fears
00:42:01.760 about the
00:42:02.420 working class
00:42:03.120 is a return
00:42:04.980 to their
00:42:05.480 state
00:42:06.080 a return
00:42:06.620 to the
00:42:06.960 status
00:42:07.340 of being
00:42:08.160 the working
00:42:09.000 class
00:42:09.500 as far as
00:42:10.560 they're concerned
00:42:11.020 they've worked
00:42:11.480 their way out
00:42:12.020 of that
00:42:12.700 benighted
00:42:13.440 position
00:42:13.920 and so
00:42:15.620 they
00:42:15.980 naturally
00:42:16.980 inherit
00:42:17.760 a contempt
00:42:18.880 for the
00:42:19.580 working class
00:42:20.260 the sort
00:42:21.080 of
00:42:21.380 the middle
00:42:23.380 class in
00:42:23.780 this country
00:42:24.060 has layers
00:42:24.640 to it
00:42:25.020 as well
00:42:25.500 but the
00:42:26.940 upper middle
00:42:27.700 class
00:42:28.040 and the
00:42:28.280 lower middle
00:42:28.600 class
00:42:29.000 unite
00:42:30.120 together
00:42:30.680 against
00:42:31.920 the working
00:42:32.560 class
00:42:32.920 who they
00:42:33.740 feel are
00:42:34.600 backwards
00:42:35.280 parochial
00:42:36.120 racist
00:42:37.200 neanderthals
00:42:39.160 in the same
00:42:39.640 way that
00:42:40.040 the deplorables
00:42:41.420 in America
00:42:41.900 it's the same
00:42:42.560 attitude towards
00:42:43.540 them
00:42:43.840 weirdly
00:42:44.680 I've had
00:42:45.500 nothing but
00:42:46.080 good interactions
00:42:46.900 with aristocrats
00:42:48.120 who I guess
00:42:49.320 do still feel
00:42:50.340 a little bit
00:42:50.780 of that
00:42:51.040 noblesse
00:42:51.540 obligee
00:42:52.100 in their
00:42:53.380 hearts
00:42:53.640 and the
00:42:54.000 British
00:42:54.560 aristocracy
00:42:55.200 was always
00:42:55.700 more willing
00:42:56.120 to bend
00:42:56.820 towards the
00:42:58.120 concern of
00:42:58.820 the masses
00:42:59.260 than other
00:43:00.320 aristocracies
00:43:00.920 which is why
00:43:01.420 we still have
00:43:01.940 one
00:43:02.160 and actually
00:43:03.040 everyone that
00:43:05.760 I've met
00:43:06.240 and I've met
00:43:06.700 quite a few
00:43:07.040 of them
00:43:07.220 they're pretty
00:43:07.840 good fellows
00:43:08.380 actually
00:43:08.980 way better
00:43:10.440 than the
00:43:10.780 average
00:43:11.040 shitlib
00:43:11.520 I loathe
00:43:13.600 the middle
00:43:14.100 class
00:43:14.440 but I
00:43:14.720 actually quite
00:43:15.100 like the
00:43:15.420 aristocracy
00:43:15.880 I actually
00:43:16.460 quite like
00:43:16.840 the working
00:43:17.200 class
00:43:17.600 so maybe
00:43:19.260 there could
00:43:19.800 be some
00:43:20.080 sort of
00:43:20.300 high low
00:43:20.660 alliance
00:43:21.160 against them
00:43:21.600 at some
00:43:21.860 point
00:43:22.140 but I
00:43:23.620 don't see
00:43:24.440 how you
00:43:25.120 could ever
00:43:25.580 get the
00:43:25.940 middle class
00:43:26.440 to be
00:43:26.720 sympathetic
00:43:27.100 to the
00:43:28.140 working class
00:43:28.760 and if you
00:43:29.680 you look at
00:43:30.240 the parties
00:43:30.820 you can see
00:43:31.460 very very
00:43:32.420 sharp
00:43:33.040 class
00:43:33.700 delineations
00:43:34.380 so the
00:43:35.440 Labour Party
00:43:35.980 used to be
00:43:36.520 the working
00:43:36.940 man's party
00:43:37.640 obviously
00:43:38.060 it's in the
00:43:38.560 name
00:43:38.760 Labour
00:43:39.180 Tony Blair
00:43:40.600 is not a
00:43:41.560 working man
00:43:42.200 Tony Blair's
00:43:43.340 Labour Party
00:43:43.940 signaled the
00:43:45.500 bourgeois
00:43:46.640 takeover
00:43:47.420 of the
00:43:48.340 Labour Party
00:43:48.940 and it's
00:43:50.280 disconnect
00:43:50.720 from the
00:43:51.460 concerns
00:43:51.860 of working
00:43:52.580 men
00:43:52.880 and so
00:43:54.040 they were
00:43:55.300 the middle
00:43:56.240 class
00:43:56.520 they became
00:43:56.880 very much
00:43:57.400 the sort
00:43:57.700 of
00:43:58.480 single degree
00:43:59.400 holding
00:43:59.760 middle class
00:44:00.340 party
00:44:00.700 we are the
00:44:01.220 party of the
00:44:01.740 middle management
00:44:02.400 and we're here
00:44:03.300 to take over
00:44:03.880 we're here to
00:44:04.680 reformat the
00:44:05.340 country in our
00:44:05.840 image
00:44:06.080 now of course
00:44:06.720 the Conservative
00:44:07.280 Party
00:44:07.620 traditionally
00:44:08.120 is the
00:44:08.440 party of
00:44:08.860 the sort
00:44:09.100 of
00:44:09.620 aristocracy
00:44:10.660 and the
00:44:11.020 shire
00:44:11.320 Tories
00:44:11.820 so landowners
00:44:12.780 and people
00:44:13.240 who don't
00:44:13.540 want anything
00:44:14.000 to change
00:44:14.560 because they've
00:44:15.280 got everything
00:44:15.780 that they
00:44:16.120 could ever ask
00:44:17.060 for
00:44:17.340 and so
00:44:18.460 the Conservative
00:44:19.000 Party was
00:44:19.520 always the
00:44:19.860 party of
00:44:20.240 inertia
00:44:20.640 we're not
00:44:21.500 going to
00:44:21.700 do anything
00:44:22.220 because you
00:44:23.040 the hierarchy
00:44:24.400 of this
00:44:24.680 country is
00:44:25.140 already exactly
00:44:26.000 as you want
00:44:26.440 it
00:44:26.640 and to be
00:44:27.460 honest with
00:44:27.840 you
00:44:28.040 most people
00:44:29.380 are kind
00:44:29.780 of okay
00:44:30.160 with that
00:44:30.640 or they
00:44:32.360 were anyway
00:44:32.920 and that's
00:44:34.060 why the
00:44:34.260 Conservative
00:44:34.600 Party is
00:44:35.140 the world's
00:44:35.460 most successful
00:44:36.080 party
00:44:36.600 then you've
00:44:37.780 got the
00:44:38.040 party of
00:44:38.920 the people
00:44:40.740 who don't
00:44:41.040 want to be
00:44:41.380 involved in
00:44:41.800 politics
00:44:42.240 which is
00:44:43.080 the Liberal
00:44:43.380 Democrats
00:44:43.820 you've
00:44:44.320 probably seen
00:44:44.840 Ed Davies
00:44:45.700 postmodern
00:44:46.980 political
00:44:47.440 campaign
00:44:47.960 of going
00:44:49.080 on a bicycle
00:44:49.700 or going
00:44:50.340 on a water
00:44:50.780 slide
00:44:51.140 or falling
00:44:51.980 off a
00:44:52.740 balloon or
00:44:54.440 something
00:44:54.680 he's done
00:44:55.980 ridiculous
00:44:56.340 things
00:44:56.760 well they're
00:44:57.880 the party
00:44:58.500 for people
00:44:59.140 who don't
00:44:59.460 really want
00:44:59.760 to be involved
00:45:00.140 in politics
00:45:00.640 and you can
00:45:01.300 see if you
00:45:01.780 look at their
00:45:02.120 constituencies
00:45:02.840 they're the
00:45:03.800 party of the
00:45:04.960 English middle
00:45:06.540 class who are
00:45:07.820 outside of the
00:45:10.060 political arena
00:45:10.980 the Labour
00:45:11.800 party holds
00:45:12.480 cities
00:45:12.940 and various
00:45:14.800 urban areas
00:45:16.160 cities and
00:45:16.640 towns
00:45:16.900 well the
00:45:17.600 Liberal
00:45:17.780 Democrats
00:45:18.300 are the
00:45:18.680 kind of
00:45:19.020 lefty
00:45:20.740 well-meaning
00:45:21.860 people who
00:45:23.280 live in the
00:45:24.640 homogenous areas
00:45:25.660 of England
00:45:26.000 and so they
00:45:27.180 just want to
00:45:27.600 think of
00:45:27.860 themselves as
00:45:28.300 good people
00:45:28.740 when they
00:45:29.080 go to one
00:45:29.580 another's
00:45:29.960 dinner parties
00:45:30.580 when they
00:45:31.540 see their
00:45:32.220 neighbours on 0.99
00:45:32.540 the street
00:45:32.800 say hello
00:45:33.260 yes I'm
00:45:33.840 against
00:45:34.040 racism
00:45:34.420 and then
00:45:35.920 you've got
00:45:36.200 reform
00:45:36.600 reform
00:45:37.880 doesn't quite
00:45:39.320 know what
00:45:39.660 it's supposed
00:45:40.640 to be yet
00:45:41.440 which is
00:45:42.820 interesting
00:45:43.340 Nigel Farage
00:45:44.280 is an
00:45:44.720 interesting
00:45:45.020 character
00:45:45.380 because he
00:45:46.800 is a city
00:45:47.620 boy right
00:45:48.440 now he's
00:45:48.780 not like a
00:45:49.620 trader but
00:45:51.500 he's in that
00:45:52.580 kind of
00:45:53.000 stereotype
00:45:53.560 he's not
00:45:56.520 come from
00:45:56.960 the working
00:45:57.320 class
00:45:57.780 he's a
00:45:59.100 well-to-do
00:45:59.600 chap from
00:46:00.420 a well-to-do
00:46:00.880 family which
00:46:01.540 is not a
00:46:02.500 black mark
00:46:02.920 against him
00:46:03.480 but he is
00:46:04.900 patriotic and
00:46:05.600 he loves
00:46:06.020 the 20th
00:46:07.120 century mythos
00:46:08.380 of Britain
00:46:09.220 so he is
00:46:10.920 patriotic for
00:46:12.600 something about
00:46:13.580 Britain but 0.89
00:46:15.040 he's also not
00:46:15.900 a friend of
00:46:17.780 the working
00:46:18.140 man which
00:46:19.280 is why I
00:46:20.080 think on a
00:46:20.780 personal level
00:46:21.580 he's really
00:46:22.080 pissed off with
00:46:23.460 having to deal
00:46:24.140 with Tommy
00:46:24.620 Robinson and
00:46:25.800 on a personal
00:46:26.720 level why he
00:46:28.080 acts as if he's
00:46:29.460 repelled by
00:46:30.260 Tommy and
00:46:31.040 why he keeps
00:46:31.700 emphasising
00:46:32.540 Tommy Robinson's
00:46:33.600 criminal record
00:46:34.200 because Tommy
00:46:34.860 Robinson's criminal
00:46:35.500 record is not
00:46:36.060 actually that
00:46:36.660 shocking for
00:46:37.240 anyone who
00:46:37.900 comes from a
00:46:38.380 working class
00:46:38.780 background
00:46:39.220 anyone involved
00:46:41.320 with all my
00:46:43.460 family are
00:46:43.820 working class
00:46:44.380 there are a
00:46:45.940 bunch of them
00:46:46.360 with criminal
00:46:46.720 records
00:46:47.200 obviously that
00:46:48.920 happens whether
00:46:50.020 it's for drugs
00:46:50.680 whether it's
00:46:51.060 for fighting
00:46:51.760 in Tommy's
00:46:53.180 case it's
00:46:54.060 mortgage fraud
00:46:56.320 I think
00:46:56.800 and he went
00:46:58.520 to jail in
00:46:58.900 2013 for
00:46:59.600 punching a
00:47:00.160 Nazi who
00:47:01.380 was trying to
00:47:01.840 infiltrate the
00:47:02.920 EDL and
00:47:03.900 now he's
00:47:04.640 in jail
00:47:05.100 essentially as
00:47:05.940 a series of
00:47:07.360 wars between
00:47:08.160 him and the
00:47:08.960 state in
00:47:09.380 sort of John
00:47:09.860 Lilburn fashion
00:47:10.900 so I mean
00:47:13.040 Tommy's crimes
00:47:13.680 are hardly
00:47:14.240 remarkable
00:47:15.480 like okay he
00:47:17.020 committed a bit
00:47:17.460 of mortgage fraud
00:47:18.080 ten years ago
00:47:18.700 I don't care
00:47:19.600 that's a question
00:47:20.580 between him and
00:47:21.200 the state
00:47:21.640 he's you know
00:47:23.100 like he hasn't
00:47:24.000 done anything
00:47:24.360 that's that
00:47:25.940 morally repugnant
00:47:27.020 it's not that it's
00:47:27.640 good to have done
00:47:28.320 this but like
00:47:29.360 it's not something
00:47:30.380 where your family
00:47:31.600 would have to
00:47:32.060 turn on you
00:47:32.600 you know it's
00:47:33.300 not like you've
00:47:33.820 raped someone
00:47:34.360 or beaten his
00:47:35.080 wife as Nigel
00:47:36.280 Farage accused
00:47:36.880 him of the
00:47:37.260 other day
00:47:37.680 which is
00:47:38.380 remarkable
00:47:38.960 and so
00:47:40.680 Tommy's
00:47:42.420 when he says
00:47:43.900 oh Tommy
00:47:44.380 has he's got
00:47:45.200 a criminal
00:47:45.560 record it's
00:47:46.060 like loads
00:47:47.220 of people have
00:47:47.660 a criminal
00:47:47.920 record Nigel
00:47:48.620 like loads
00:47:50.000 loads of
00:47:50.860 conservatives
00:47:51.360 have a criminal
00:47:52.020 record
00:47:52.500 loads of
00:47:53.480 you know
00:47:54.180 loads of
00:47:55.280 people in the
00:47:55.700 upper class
00:47:56.180 with their
00:47:56.600 tax evasion
00:47:57.260 and things
00:47:57.540 like that
00:47:57.720 have criminal
00:47:58.180 records
00:47:58.620 it's being
00:47:59.880 used as
00:48:00.340 excuse to
00:48:01.100 stomp down
00:48:02.140 the pleb 0.99
00:48:02.600 and Nigel
00:48:03.480 Farage's
00:48:03.840 support is
00:48:05.820 going to be
00:48:06.400 mostly the
00:48:06.960 plebs
00:48:07.340 the reform
00:48:09.140 of the second
00:48:09.560 party in the
00:48:10.160 north at the
00:48:10.620 moment
00:48:10.840 and you
00:48:12.380 you can see
00:48:13.760 that a lot
00:48:14.660 of reform
00:48:15.300 supporters are
00:48:16.600 very frustrated
00:48:17.360 with Nigel's
00:48:17.980 attitude on
00:48:18.560 this because
00:48:19.460 they see
00:48:20.940 in Tommy
00:48:21.700 a potential
00:48:23.540 version of
00:48:24.120 themselves
00:48:24.560 it could have
00:48:25.340 been me
00:48:25.760 in that
00:48:26.300 position
00:48:26.700 and so when
00:48:27.460 Nigel says
00:48:27.920 no that
00:48:28.240 person is
00:48:28.680 bad
00:48:29.120 Nigel is
00:48:30.020 unwittingly
00:48:30.780 I think
00:48:31.300 condemning
00:48:32.440 his base
00:48:32.980 of support
00:48:33.620 and that's
00:48:34.680 very very
00:48:35.700 counterproductive
00:48:36.520 and I wish
00:48:37.020 he would just
00:48:37.420 step over it
00:48:38.180 and stop
00:48:38.880 talking about
00:48:39.400 Tommy even
00:48:39.760 when people
00:48:40.460 presented to
00:48:41.000 him I wish
00:48:41.320 he'd just
00:48:41.580 say well
00:48:42.740 look Tommy
00:48:43.400 Robinson is
00:48:43.880 a symptom
00:48:44.180 of the
00:48:44.440 problem and
00:48:45.080 the only
00:48:45.600 reason he
00:48:46.000 can exist
00:48:46.480 is because
00:48:46.920 you failed
00:48:47.440 to do
00:48:47.660 your job
00:48:48.080 and suddenly
00:48:48.920 you're on
00:48:49.200 the attack
00:48:49.600 you're not
00:48:49.980 attacking Tommy
00:48:50.520 Robinson
00:48:50.780 you're not
00:48:51.140 attacking your
00:48:51.540 own supporters
00:48:52.100 who use Tommy
00:48:53.700 Robinson as a
00:48:54.820 proxy for
00:48:55.400 themselves
00:48:55.800 you're attacking
00:48:57.140 the enemy
00:48:57.980 but Farage
00:48:59.220 I think has a
00:48:59.880 genuine personal
00:49:00.520 dislike of Tommy
00:49:01.320 Robinson which
00:49:02.360 is based in
00:49:02.960 class and this
00:49:06.220 is the position
00:49:06.740 we're in but
00:49:07.520 Rupert Lowe is
00:49:08.900 doing a superb
00:49:09.520 job so I think
00:49:11.140 reform are the best
00:49:11.980 we've got at the
00:49:12.440 moment
00:49:12.660 yeah you really
00:49:14.160 need somebody who
00:49:15.040 can like you
00:49:15.800 said with like
00:49:16.380 the aristocratic
00:49:17.280 tenor can
00:49:18.820 can transcend
00:49:19.560 that class
00:49:20.840 can you know
00:49:21.580 you have somebody
00:49:22.420 like Donald Trump
00:49:23.240 who obviously
00:49:24.140 you know he's a
00:49:24.860 lifelong New
00:49:25.480 Yorker he's rich
00:49:26.620 but he is able
00:49:28.480 to walk into a
00:49:29.340 crowd of people
00:49:30.460 from you know
00:49:31.280 the flyover
00:49:32.040 states and he
00:49:33.340 feels like one
00:49:34.060 of them you
00:49:34.480 have same thing
00:49:35.280 with Tucker
00:49:35.640 Carlson right
00:49:36.340 just is somebody
00:49:37.540 who very clearly
00:49:38.540 comes from a
00:49:39.280 particular stock
00:49:39.980 and a particular
00:49:40.420 background but he
00:49:42.060 doesn't feel like
00:49:42.860 he's reaching
00:49:43.580 down when he's
00:49:44.940 talking to people
00:49:46.460 the average
00:49:47.220 American he is
00:49:48.160 somebody who has
00:49:49.200 a reverence for
00:49:49.860 that and that's
00:49:50.880 certainly a skill
00:49:52.180 that reform is
00:49:53.160 going to need to
00:49:53.700 acquire if it's
00:49:54.820 going to make any
00:49:55.440 headway but we
00:49:56.520 have a lot of
00:49:57.260 questions stacking
00:49:57.960 up and I know I
00:49:58.680 only have you for
00:49:59.700 a few more minutes
00:50:00.400 so let's let's
00:50:01.680 try to get to
00:50:02.300 those before we
00:50:03.140 do you want to
00:50:03.800 tell people you
00:50:05.280 know Lotus
00:50:05.640 Eaters or where
00:50:06.300 to find anything
00:50:06.940 got anything
00:50:07.340 exciting coming
00:50:07.880 yeah just come
00:50:08.780 find us on the
00:50:09.260 podcast the
00:50:09.740 Lotus Eaters or
00:50:10.580 lotuscees.com
00:50:11.440 and we cover
00:50:13.280 this obviously
00:50:14.040 on a daily
00:50:14.540 basis because
00:50:15.320 it's and not
00:50:16.400 just this we
00:50:16.780 cover everything
00:50:17.340 but like this
00:50:18.100 has been
00:50:18.380 particularly
00:50:18.960 interesting an
00:50:21.360 interesting way
00:50:21.880 to kick off
00:50:22.300 2025 I have to
00:50:23.400 say it's good
00:50:24.300 energy very good
00:50:25.440 energy I realize
00:50:26.080 I probably seem
00:50:26.900 quite stressed out
00:50:27.660 by it all but
00:50:29.720 I've had I mean
00:50:32.240 when you get I've
00:50:33.180 been retweeted by
00:50:34.000 Elon five times
00:50:35.000 now and so I'm
00:50:36.040 getting grilled on
00:50:36.860 the radio like
00:50:39.040 James O'Brien is
00:50:40.160 there I can't
00:50:40.740 believe he retweeted
00:50:41.500 Carl Benjamin
00:50:41.940 blah blah and
00:50:42.540 so I'm getting it
00:50:44.160 in the neck from
00:50:45.280 normal people now
00:50:46.540 you know like there
00:50:47.680 are normies in my
00:50:48.740 friends and family
00:50:49.440 who's like James
00:50:50.380 O'Brien was talking
00:50:50.980 about you on the
00:50:51.440 TV on the on the
00:50:52.280 radio and it's like
00:50:52.860 yeah I'm sorry I
00:50:54.540 don't anyway the
00:50:55.840 yeah so I'm not
00:50:57.240 actually very
00:50:57.820 optimistic about
00:50:58.720 this if this is the
00:50:59.540 way 2025 begins
00:51:00.820 great start let's
00:51:02.380 keep going I mean
00:51:03.600 what's the the
00:51:04.400 Churchill quote you
00:51:05.380 know if you you
00:51:06.200 have enemies good
00:51:07.000 that means you stood
00:51:07.700 up for something in
00:51:08.380 your life yeah yeah
00:51:09.500 you only take flack
00:51:10.340 when you're over the
00:51:10.880 target as well yeah
00:51:11.740 precisely yeah all
00:51:13.200 right let's see
00:51:14.100 Arthur T says what
00:51:17.880 explains the MSN
00:51:19.220 tendency to dismiss
00:51:20.320 the UK grooming
00:51:21.340 scandal as a
00:51:22.260 nothing burger they
00:51:23.440 hand wave it away
00:51:24.380 like it's ancient
00:51:25.320 history meanwhile
00:51:26.120 historical events
00:51:27.140 like the 1921
00:51:28.080 Tulsa riots are
00:51:29.700 reported as fresh
00:51:31.500 news yeah good
00:51:32.480 point is we have to
00:51:33.460 live through all the
00:51:34.380 historical wrongs of
00:51:35.700 the racists but if
00:51:36.660 you bring up you
00:51:38.080 know something that
00:51:39.100 happened five years
00:51:40.340 ago all of a sudden
00:51:41.220 it's oh no it's done
00:51:42.120 it's dusted what are
00:51:42.800 you talking about
00:51:43.340 yeah the the the
00:51:44.980 answer is of course
00:51:46.080 protecting the dignity
00:51:48.420 of minority
00:51:49.280 communities they're
00:51:51.100 they're very
00:51:51.620 interested in making
00:51:52.780 sure that these
00:51:54.060 communities don't fall
00:51:55.180 under the tyranny of
00:51:56.220 characterization as
00:51:57.920 in if you and the
00:51:59.240 public generally hold a
00:52:00.260 negative opinion on
00:52:02.200 diversity ethnic
00:52:04.020 minorities race gender
00:52:06.220 sexual minorities then
00:52:08.180 the the environment
00:52:12.260 this will create for
00:52:13.080 these minorities whether
00:52:14.480 justified or not will
00:52:16.240 make their lives more
00:52:17.040 difficult and they
00:52:18.400 want equality they
00:52:19.540 want their life to be
00:52:21.280 as easy as a normal
00:52:22.920 person's life which is
00:52:24.020 not necessarily an
00:52:24.660 unfair thing to want
00:52:25.520 but the way that they
00:52:26.880 go about creating this
00:52:28.580 equality is possibly the
00:52:30.760 worst way of doing it
00:52:32.360 because they essentially
00:52:33.240 begin with the
00:52:33.820 premise that that
00:52:35.120 community cannot do
00:52:36.560 any wrong and if they
00:52:37.740 do something wrong it's
00:52:38.900 because they're the
00:52:39.500 victim of the majority
00:52:40.440 community and so the
00:52:41.960 community the minority
00:52:42.920 community community
00:52:43.900 itself never mends its
00:52:46.620 ways it never does
00:52:48.360 better in in ways that
00:52:50.280 we would never accept
00:52:51.260 for the majority
00:52:52.600 community right we've
00:52:53.940 never accept that
00:52:55.380 yeah like there could
00:52:58.580 never be a time where
00:53:00.480 the there were white
00:53:01.980 english grooming gangs
00:53:03.160 who go into the
00:53:04.820 minority asian
00:53:05.620 communities essentially
00:53:07.060 kidnap their daughters 0.97
00:53:08.320 gang rape them and
00:53:09.740 when those guys tried to
00:53:10.780 rescue their daughters
00:53:11.640 the police would arrest
00:53:12.820 them that would never
00:53:13.960 happen because it's
00:53:16.560 about balancing the
00:53:17.700 scales
00:53:18.060 we've got uh alexandra here 0.95
00:53:22.720 says i can't even read
00:53:24.360 about the story too much
00:53:25.500 because i need to protect
00:53:26.540 my brain that's the kind
00:53:27.540 of horror that keeps you
00:53:28.980 up at night yeah elon uh
00:53:30.800 really tore into this after
00:53:32.080 they kind of read out um
00:53:34.080 you know some of the court
00:53:35.240 transcripts over you know
00:53:36.940 what was going on and it
00:53:38.080 was it was truly horrific
00:53:39.420 yeah it is there's nothing
00:53:42.400 to add it you you can
00:53:44.320 easily find the court
00:53:45.560 transcripts if you just
00:53:46.340 search grooming gang court
00:53:48.380 transcripts or something
00:53:49.280 like that you'll be able to
00:53:49.940 find loads um yeah i mean
00:53:52.080 it's just some of them just
00:53:54.280 the worst stuff that a
00:53:56.760 human being is capable of
00:53:57.940 doing to another human
00:53:58.660 being has been done in this
00:54:00.000 country uh and it never
00:54:01.640 used to be this way
00:54:02.300 england used to be the
00:54:03.080 sort of place where bad
00:54:03.780 things just generally didn't
00:54:04.740 happen and when they did
00:54:06.180 happen they'd be talked
00:54:06.920 about the generations uh
00:54:10.720 tony uh one doll says
00:54:12.640 uh great to see both of
00:54:13.700 you winning the h1b
00:54:15.220 arguments while still
00:54:16.540 trying to keep elon on
00:54:17.740 side i hope you can do
00:54:19.080 the same uh with other
00:54:20.960 trump allies yeah again
00:54:22.460 that that's that was kind
00:54:23.640 of the reason that didn't
00:54:25.080 try to burn any bridges
00:54:26.140 with even though elon was
00:54:27.680 definitely wrong about the
00:54:29.140 h1b and needed to hear
00:54:30.660 about it um he can still
00:54:32.660 be a force for good and
00:54:34.360 that's why you don't want
00:54:35.380 to just immediately light
00:54:36.740 up a possible ally when
00:54:39.240 you have the opportunity
00:54:40.080 to persuade and elon's not
00:54:42.560 an irrational man i mean
00:54:43.900 you know you couldn't
00:54:45.060 reason with him you look
00:54:46.300 at the way that he has
00:54:47.540 um approached this issue
00:54:49.540 uh for example he
00:54:51.080 retweeted charlie downs
00:54:52.420 the other day who's a
00:54:53.180 friend of mine and i
00:54:54.220 often have him on the
00:54:55.300 podcast and charlie's
00:54:57.020 saying look britain's not
00:54:57.760 an idea britain is the
00:54:58.660 people itself uh britain is
00:55:00.440 not a propositional
00:55:01.240 nation uh britain is uh a
00:55:04.220 part of a historic ethnic
00:55:05.660 continuity and elon musk
00:55:07.840 retweeted that so maybe
00:55:10.700 maybe he has uh been
00:55:13.240 paying attention
00:55:13.840 first uh perspicacious
00:55:17.980 heretic says when hashtag
00:55:19.760 me too meets racial 0.74
00:55:20.960 equality i see the same
00:55:22.640 people who were initially
00:55:23.960 hysterical about the
00:55:25.100 former will ultimately
00:55:26.420 self-flagellate over the
00:55:28.360 latter yeah this is an
00:55:29.540 interesting uh check for
00:55:31.720 the oppression hierarchy
00:55:33.020 right apparently uh the
00:55:34.720 the uh the rape of young
00:55:36.640 girls is just not as 1.00
00:55:38.300 important it it's important
00:55:39.540 if like a white guy was
00:55:40.660 doing it somewhere but once
00:55:42.260 the you know the racial
00:55:43.280 calculus comes in you can
00:55:44.900 really drop that to the
00:55:45.820 bottom of the stack
00:55:46.540 apparently well we we
00:55:47.640 actually do know uh white
00:55:49.340 english girls working
00:55:50.960 class girls are lower on 0.97
00:55:52.340 the progressive stack than
00:55:53.300 pakistani men that's that's 0.97
00:55:55.020 self-evident at this point
00:55:56.220 um yeah it's what's
00:55:58.120 interesting though as well is
00:55:59.160 it's the country's leading
00:56:00.220 feminist the one miss 0.99
00:56:01.500 jess phillips uh who is
00:56:03.260 currently essentially
00:56:05.000 acting as a shield for
00:56:06.700 criticism to the pakistani
00:56:07.960 community and is doing
00:56:09.940 nothing to help the uh girls 0.99
00:56:11.620 who have been groomed and
00:56:12.440 raped so um yeah feminism is 1.00
00:56:15.340 not covering itself in glory
00:56:16.500 at the moment yeah turns out
00:56:18.660 it was uh never about the
00:56:19.760 well-being of women but 0.99
00:56:20.700 who could have got it
00:56:21.500 yeah weird that isn't it
00:56:22.180 it was always about
00:56:22.660 attacking men
00:56:23.320 strange uh alexander says
00:56:26.900 uh you can either fight uh
00:56:28.540 for your home and your
00:56:29.520 people and be called a
00:56:30.440 racist or you can
00:56:31.100 passively watch it all
00:56:32.600 crash and burn and be 0.91
00:56:34.160 called a racist yeah i mean
00:56:35.680 that is that i mean exactly
00:56:37.800 yeah well i think elon
00:56:39.680 tweeted out something like
00:56:41.080 uh uh you know if if
00:56:43.360 caring about the rape of
00:56:44.660 children makes me a
00:56:45.940 fascist then i'm a
00:56:47.060 fascist you know like if
00:56:49.500 you guys want to play that
00:56:50.420 game be careful because you
00:56:51.880 know you're gonna get the
00:56:52.860 stupid prizes eventually
00:56:53.900 it's worse to be in favor
00:56:55.820 of them raping children
00:56:56.800 than it is to be a
00:56:57.580 fascist and i say this as
00:56:58.660 someone who's not a
00:56:59.500 fascist right yeah
00:57:00.680 and thinks very little of
00:57:02.980 fascism because it's a
00:57:04.200 weird foreign ideology 0.99
00:57:05.320 that doesn't jive with me
00:57:06.360 at all like you know but
00:57:08.620 i mean well like you said
00:57:11.740 racism is just not the
00:57:12.700 worst thing like look
00:57:13.400 sorry i don't think you
00:57:14.560 should have a ethnic
00:57:15.560 hatred in your heart but
00:57:17.080 if uh you are uh approving
00:57:19.240 of or participating in or
00:57:20.740 facilitating uh a rape
00:57:22.660 gang um then you are a
00:57:24.980 much worse person than a
00:57:25.900 racist like i will take
00:57:27.020 a thousand racists over
00:57:28.840 you every day yeah i mean
00:57:30.660 and not even close being
00:57:32.560 surrounded by a thousand
00:57:33.460 racists would be
00:57:34.040 insufferable because
00:57:34.740 they'll be like blah blah
00:57:35.480 blah blah blah and you 0.95
00:57:35.940 know knock it off it's
00:57:39.680 unpleasant but come on you
00:57:42.060 know come on
00:57:43.280 uh florida henry here says
00:57:47.060 how much further can the
00:57:48.520 left go after these and
00:57:49.980 other things involving
00:57:51.440 children
00:57:52.300 uh yeah i mean you just
00:57:53.880 saw the finally the push
00:57:55.180 back when it came to
00:57:55.960 child mutilation and the
00:57:57.660 attempt to trans children
00:57:58.600 that kind of worked its
00:57:59.480 way through even the uk
00:58:01.120 before it did uh the
00:58:02.600 united states and yet
00:58:03.460 somehow this isn't
00:58:04.540 treated as important it
00:58:05.840 seems very strange
00:58:07.420 yeah but there are a
00:58:09.180 series of more
00:58:09.740 reckonings that happen
00:58:11.240 though i mean one
00:58:12.220 reckoning that needs to
00:58:13.360 happen is the left's
00:58:14.720 desire to normalize
00:58:15.920 pedophilia this is a
00:58:17.600 completely intractable
00:58:19.880 part of the left
00:58:20.880 they've been doing it
00:58:21.720 for decades uh only in
00:58:23.920 the early 2000s from
00:58:25.480 from like the 70s to
00:58:27.220 the 2000s the german
00:58:29.260 state was allowing
00:58:30.740 pedophiles to adopt
00:58:31.760 orphans yes they were
00:58:33.280 in order to prevent
00:58:34.360 nazism germany's really
00:58:36.620 only got two settings man
00:58:37.740 anyway sorry yeah it is
00:58:39.060 totally true it's totally
00:58:40.460 true um but the i mean
00:58:42.300 one of the people who
00:58:43.220 came out to defend the
00:58:44.080 rape gangs that uh the 0.84
00:58:45.340 other day was a woman 1.00
00:58:45.960 called harriet harmond she
00:58:47.660 was a former labor
00:58:48.720 minister and she was
00:58:50.640 involved in something
00:58:51.360 called the pe uh pie which
00:58:54.160 was the pedophile
00:58:55.060 information exchange which
00:58:56.960 was attempting through the
00:58:58.040 labor government in the
00:58:58.960 70s to normalize
00:59:00.200 pedophilia and that
00:59:02.260 failed but she's still in
00:59:03.960 politics i've got a sign
00:59:06.460 about this uh but yeah
00:59:08.080 uh joshua bb says uh
00:59:12.240 stunned by the uh by the
00:59:14.640 crimes scale how can your
00:59:16.040 countrymen fall uh fail to
00:59:17.840 care about each of each
00:59:19.420 other this deeply i don't
00:59:20.460 understand the english caste
00:59:22.160 system you've already
00:59:22.880 spoken of what you know
00:59:24.500 what happened to the
00:59:25.020 fathers but uh do you
00:59:26.980 think that the atomization
00:59:28.640 of uh kind of the british
00:59:31.220 people has some effect here
00:59:33.260 too this less community
00:59:35.040 less connection to parents
00:59:36.260 no this predated the
00:59:37.860 atom the atomization of
00:59:39.480 society um this predates
00:59:41.900 social media uh the the
00:59:43.720 issue in this is class
00:59:44.960 expressly class uh class
00:59:47.660 and racism and uh and i
00:59:51.560 again i don't want you to
00:59:52.500 think ill of the working
00:59:53.600 class men in this they 0.74
00:59:55.320 tried they tried for years
00:59:58.000 and years and they were
00:59:59.080 crushed by the state they
01:00:01.260 had no elite backing
01:00:02.220 whatsoever no one was on
01:00:03.780 their side
01:00:04.260 skeptical panda says good
01:00:07.040 luck carl and uh the good
01:00:08.760 people of britain getting
01:00:09.700 your country back from the 0.99
01:00:11.000 villains currently in
01:00:11.900 charge but does elon even
01:00:13.760 bring up this issue if he
01:00:15.120 didn't step on the h1b rake
01:00:17.860 so hard yeah good question i
01:00:19.540 mean do you think this is
01:00:20.560 entirely organic because you
01:00:21.760 think this is him trying to
01:00:22.660 make up for kind of bad will
01:00:24.040 that he had encouraged well i
01:00:26.280 think i think elon has
01:00:27.620 actually uh shown a long
01:00:29.380 pattern of really hating
01:00:31.200 pedophilia right the first
01:00:33.420 thing he did when he gets on
01:00:34.880 twitter is ban pedophilia and
01:00:36.840 the first thing that happens on
01:00:37.960 blue sky when they uh flee to
01:00:41.380 that platform is blue sky
01:00:43.180 starts getting an influx of
01:00:44.240 child porn um so i think i
01:00:46.780 think this is a a pattern that
01:00:48.420 elon has demonstrated that he
01:00:49.640 is a father and he loves
01:00:51.200 especially what was happened
01:00:52.000 to his children yeah exactly
01:00:53.600 and he wants the best for his
01:00:55.100 kids so i'm not i'm not saying
01:00:57.900 that it's not tactical uh and
01:01:00.860 a way of kind of redeeming
01:01:02.540 himself after the h1b meltdown
01:01:04.720 um but i also do believe it's
01:01:07.120 a sincerely held belief for
01:01:08.520 elon and it's also a very
01:01:11.260 politically necessary thing to
01:01:14.120 do in this country and so even
01:01:15.740 if it's being done partially for
01:01:17.740 cynical reasons i'm gonna give
01:01:19.180 him a pass because by god did we
01:01:21.540 need someone above the british
01:01:23.740 establishment who have got
01:01:24.780 everything locked down they've
01:01:25.960 got on complete lockdown we
01:01:27.620 needed like this meteor to come
01:01:29.300 in and blow it apart and so thank 0.83
01:01:31.100 god that elon's taking the time to
01:01:33.260 do this and again he didn't
01:01:34.580 have to he didn't have to do
01:01:36.000 this um so i really appreciate
01:01:37.980 that he has yeah no i would
01:01:39.960 agree again it's you don't
01:01:42.120 don't be foolish don't burn
01:01:43.720 bridges take your w's when you 0.88
01:01:45.780 can get them like they're just
01:01:47.140 you know i i i understand if
01:01:49.320 everyone doesn't start
01:01:50.060 worshiping elon that's
01:01:51.300 perfectly reasonable but you
01:01:53.100 know don't don't go the other
01:01:54.600 direction and uh you know just
01:01:56.200 torch every possibility of
01:01:57.980 winning because you know he
01:01:59.880 disagrees with you on an issue
01:02:01.180 here uh life of brian says a
01:02:03.560 chance that low will arrest
01:02:05.220 control from nigel or a party 0.98
01:02:07.880 right of reform is one a is
01:02:10.300 starting to go his own way on
01:02:12.360 these issues i think zero chance
01:02:15.320 that low would even try to arrest
01:02:18.580 control of reform off of nigel 0.99
01:02:20.060 because there's just no way for
01:02:21.140 him to do it there's no mechanism
01:02:22.220 not reform is actually a business
01:02:26.020 private entity not political party
01:02:29.100 and nigel is the predominant 0.99
01:02:31.100 shareholder so there's nothing he
01:02:32.700 can do to uh try and usurp nigel 0.99
01:02:35.400 and i don't think he would anyway
01:02:37.240 um what i think we can hope for is
01:02:40.660 that um prime minister nigel um 1.00
01:02:46.900 becomes
01:02:47.620 open to allowing rupert lowe to
01:02:52.060 clean up a bunch of the mess
01:02:53.180 because i think a lot of nigel's 0.99
01:02:55.100 issue is that he spent 25 years
01:02:58.700 probably 30 years now stage
01:03:00.900 managing his own reputation in
01:03:02.420 the face of a very hostile media
01:03:04.240 and he's come out with it with a
01:03:05.780 rather good reputation all things
01:03:08.980 considered he's actually the most
01:03:10.380 popular politician in the country
01:03:11.860 right he's he's got approval rating
01:03:13.740 of something like minus 20 percent
01:03:16.160 but that's way better than almost
01:03:18.420 every other politician in the
01:03:19.680 country
01:03:20.020 um or party leader in the country
01:03:22.320 so he's done quite well to stage
01:03:25.100 manage his reputation and a large
01:03:26.500 part of his i hate tommy spiel is
01:03:29.080 about stage managing of his
01:03:30.880 reputation
01:03:31.400 and so what i'm hoping is that he
01:03:33.960 will essentially
01:03:34.540 use rupert lowe as a bulldog as a
01:03:37.640 guard dog as an attack dog
01:03:38.780 and so nigel forage will be able to
01:03:40.940 keep his hands essentially clean
01:03:42.320 let rupert lowe go out and just lay
01:03:44.640 waste
01:03:45.200 to all of the things that rupert
01:03:46.840 clearly wants to lay waste to
01:03:48.300 in a spectacular fashion
01:03:50.100 and and hopefully you know keep
01:03:52.720 his own hands uh reasonably dry
01:03:54.540 doing that now that i think would
01:03:56.540 be the best possible case scenario
01:03:58.620 to come out of what we have in
01:03:59.900 front of us
01:04:00.620 Jonathan bb says that everyone is
01:04:03.820 the same but i'm guessing white
01:04:05.460 children has no right to safety
01:04:08.180 um unfortunately that does seem to
01:04:10.780 be working class
01:04:11.580 working class okay yeah no right 1.00
01:04:13.620 safety that's that's true
01:04:14.760 what remember the working class are
01:04:17.200 viewed as kind of backsliders in
01:04:21.260 some way treacherous to the middle
01:04:23.120 class uh because the middle class
01:04:25.380 themselves remember that their
01:04:27.340 grandparents were working class and
01:04:29.500 so what they it it's kind of like
01:04:31.660 it's weird like um uh you know when
01:04:35.520 when the sort of uh the christian
01:04:37.640 fundamentalists are like well why are
01:04:39.600 they still apes they've got a kind of 0.82
01:04:41.380 why are they still working class 1.00
01:04:42.740 attitude uh you know why haven't they
01:04:45.360 evolved with the rest of us beyond
01:04:46.840 this yeah yeah yeah and and so they
01:04:49.620 they view the working class as kind of
01:04:51.000 treacherous to the ideals of the
01:04:53.280 middle class like no you were 0.94
01:04:54.520 supposed to come with us and instead
01:04:56.440 the working class have remained sort 0.73
01:04:57.800 of traditional and parochial and so
01:05:00.040 they hate them for it they really
01:05:01.720 hate them for it
01:05:02.420 uh and on reviewer says donald trump
01:05:06.460 needs to be added to the list of great
01:05:07.980 world conquerors having neither saber
01:05:09.480 nor pistol he has conquered both
01:05:11.200 canada and greenland yes greater
01:05:13.500 america continues to look beyond her
01:05:16.180 shores uh expand the golden circle in
01:05:18.700 the frozen north my my plan was to you
01:05:21.800 know we take canada but then we deport
01:05:24.080 all the uh californians canada and then
01:05:27.980 actual americans can retake uh
01:05:29.940 california again i'd say i think it'd be
01:05:32.440 a terrible thing for the republican
01:05:34.200 party if you did take canada because i
01:05:38.320 mean it's just going to add a huge
01:05:39.740 love oh they can't have suffrage no yeah
01:05:41.700 no they can't have the franchise
01:05:43.320 absolutely not no yeah yeah i can see
01:05:46.420 the greenlanders being republican but
01:05:48.160 like it's not enough of them
01:05:49.260 let's see here we got uh drew uh two of
01:05:52.600 my favorite people glad you're both
01:05:53.820 talking uh talking about uh out out this
01:05:57.600 oh thank you sir um hey max mcdonald
01:06:01.760 says does carl find it interesting that
01:06:03.840 uh right uh as elon west is getting some
01:06:06.780 trouble with americans over h1b he focused
01:06:08.760 on the problem of uk immigration do you uh
01:06:11.540 both see parallels in the issue uh whether
01:06:13.940 skilled or unskilled migrants cause uh the 1.00
01:06:16.540 issue oh yeah we already covered uh kind
01:06:18.560 of his strategy there but i do think it is
01:06:21.080 important to highlight that you know a lot
01:06:23.820 of the immigrants that are were doing this 1.00
01:06:26.340 were legal right they were in the uk legally
01:06:29.220 yeah yeah and so right and so it's not just
01:06:32.640 an issue of oh did did we do the the the
01:06:35.760 procedure did we follow the the right
01:06:37.660 procedure we got the forms filled out well
01:06:39.740 then it's fine like no actually the large
01:06:41.980 scale immigration is itself a problem even
01:06:44.380 if it is done through legal means correct
01:06:46.560 uh alexander says apart from race i think
01:06:50.340 the reason that the corporate press doesn't
01:06:52.220 cover child abuse is because it's a favorite
01:06:54.860 sin of their elites yeah i i would absolutely
01:06:57.840 agree with that it's one of the reasons the
01:06:59.880 bbc doesn't want to talk about it right
01:07:01.900 who else could be pulled into this
01:07:04.720 conversation uh simpler says i do appreciate
01:07:07.920 musk leading the reaction uh international
01:07:10.820 uh as uh macron put it uh yeah again he
01:07:14.580 sorry accidentally based macron uh oh there's
01:07:18.840 some sort of reactionary international
01:07:20.200 happening it's like that's a great idea
01:07:22.120 macron thank you good thinking i'll see you
01:07:25.300 there just like when they started calling
01:07:27.960 it the barbarian right it's like well that's
01:07:29.480 a great name thank you yeah yeah i like
01:07:31.060 that yeah uh uh don browning says uh think
01:07:35.180 of how many girls and boys would love to
01:07:37.080 have been spared and had there been no had
01:07:40.540 there not been cover-ups they were under
01:07:42.580 the illusion that they were in a high trust
01:07:44.400 society for decades decades longer than they
01:07:47.340 should have been so there's there's a it's
01:07:50.220 not just high trust society a issue there's
01:07:53.400 there's a an issue with the moral unity and
01:07:57.680 integration of the society and the state so
01:08:00.640 in world war ii people in britain and in
01:08:06.140 america uh genuinely believe their
01:08:08.700 countries were doing the right thing right
01:08:10.900 there's a genuine moral um widely spread
01:08:16.220 widely held moral acceptance whether whatever
01:08:19.420 people on the internet want to think about
01:08:20.880 that and whatever critiques you might have
01:08:23.040 of it it is the case that people look back
01:08:26.200 on the 20th century as a position as a time
01:08:28.800 of moral unity between the people and the
01:08:30.680 state and throughout the 20th century after
01:08:34.060 that the state persisted in this moral unity
01:08:38.440 in britain between the people and the
01:08:42.880 government now this isn't always true like
01:08:46.460 there there are there are breaks in this there
01:08:48.260 there are riots it's not there's no problems
01:08:50.320 but it's generally expected that the state would
01:08:53.740 end up doing the right thing in the end and i think that
01:08:58.240 moral unity is breaking down now because the
01:09:01.440 people in charge just will not have it none of
01:09:05.060 them will have it the media won't have it the
01:09:07.400 council counselors won't have it the police won't 0.99
01:09:10.400 have it the social workers won't have it the judges won't
01:09:13.120 have it the mps won't have it right so that that that moral unity
01:09:17.900 that protected the west from civil unrest in widespread civil unrest
01:09:23.640 that is breaking down in britain that is a real problem
01:09:27.640 yeah there is obviously always been a tension between the ruling class and its
01:09:32.340 subjects that's nothing new uh in world history but there does seem to be you know
01:09:38.540 as christopher lash put it a revolt of the elites in the last you know uh hundred years
01:09:44.080 where where they're really these systems are there to contain and control the populace
01:09:50.100 not to reflect anything about them or to guide them
01:09:53.440 to better them uh you know the the entirety that the only thing that seems to bind the ruling
01:09:59.040 class at this point is their disdain for those that they rule and this is something
01:10:02.900 that infects both the uk and the united states
01:10:05.240 yeah there's a commitment to the moral order of liberalism as well
01:10:09.100 they they do have an affirmative moral doctrine it's just evil
01:10:12.680 can't argue with that uh alexis 86 says will the uk become an islamic state 0.50
01:10:20.660 not anytime soon um what we will have is islamic colonies 1.00
01:10:24.640 and they because people do have to remember that most immigrants in britain are not islamic
01:10:31.340 most people in britain are not islamic again we're something like 95 94 percent non-islamic
01:10:39.880 like it's not actually a concern that britain is going to be taken over by muslims
01:10:44.580 what the concern is is we're going to have autonomous ethnic islamic enclaves that are 0.60
01:10:51.440 essentially given a license by the state to predate on the communities around them right
01:10:55.000 that's the concern uh it's not to say that in 50 years time this might will be the same or anything
01:11:00.540 like that there are definitely going to be future concerns in that sort of vein but again
01:11:05.160 i mean england is still 75 english like it's it's our moral weakness that is allowing this it's not
01:11:13.980 through enemy force yeah we've got like ilhan omar in the united states saying you know i'm somali and
01:11:20.580 i fight for somalians you know like you're not we're not going to get taken over by some uh somalia 0.97
01:11:25.180 anytime soon but you you see how disastrous it is to have an elected representative in in you know
01:11:31.400 your uh major body you know talking like that you know treating treating the country like that
01:11:37.280 uh dan browning says carl and colin need to have a talk that one colin's an old friend
01:11:44.760 well he yeah this is on the low seaters before right uh i don't think he's been on the low seaters
01:11:50.380 oh was it okay but and then uh templar says uh someone ran the numbers on twitter trump would
01:11:57.780 still win against uh canadian ecs all going democrats well like i said you you can't give
01:12:05.020 them the franchise either way it's very important though i do have a number of canadian friends who
01:12:09.080 have said yeah we would gladly welcome you as liberators like please just uh make make it happen
01:12:13.840 all right guys well we're gonna wrap this up i want carl to be able to get out of here i know
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