00:03:39.240But ever since The Washington Post said that, I said, you know what? That is so true. And I became a believer in that. And last night, ABC and NBC threatened democracy by refusing to air the president's prep time address.
00:03:51.960Well, and it's crazy because all these people were pushing the Russia narrative for years and years and years.
00:03:57.300It's not like questioning the integrity of elections or foreign influence is somehow new or something that the media hasn't engaged in.
00:04:06.540It's, of course, some kind of crazy conspiracy theory when Republicans do it.
00:04:09.840Because obviously, I guess Russia is the only country in the world that would ever influence elections and they would only ever do it in favor of Donald Trump.
00:04:18.040I mean, this is a very bizarre way to approach these things.
00:04:20.900election integrity should be something that everyone supports ultimately the only way we
00:04:25.780maintain a peaceful transfer of power the only way that people can look at the government and
00:04:30.120think of it as legitimate is if they believe the elections are ultimately at some level fair
00:04:34.800and when you know that at a regular basis we have different very serious adversaries
00:04:39.980working to try to manipulate our elections obviously i think this should just be a bipartisan
00:04:45.440an issue for everyone but it's very clear that many people even republicans fight against this
00:04:50.960i mean we just heard uh you know guys arguing that well we've won all of these elections
00:04:56.320how could there possibly have been any uh election interference i know thomas massey
00:05:00.560has been running around saying this on left-wing media channels i mean many people will look at
00:05:05.920someone like massey and say we've loved what you're doing but why this why would you go as a republican
00:05:11.280onto left-wing media channels to try to pretend that you don't have any foreign influence in
00:05:16.480elections. I mean, Thomas Massey literally talked about how much he thought foreign influence played
00:05:20.620a role in his election. And now he's pretending it couldn't possibly come from China.
00:05:25.620Right. Well, Thomas Massey is a hypocrite and a fraud. I appreciate you pointing that out.1.00
00:05:30.840And, you know, I agree. We need to get foreign influence out of politics. I've been hammering1.00
00:05:36.200point home for quite some time now and i was very surprised to see thomas massey quickly defend the
00:05:43.320ccp from the president of the united states's uh allegations that he made last night and they're
00:05:48.760not allegations they're backed up by facts and massey's only doing that to be honest because
00:05:54.600he's already planning for what's next he will become a left-wing commentator uh similar to
00:06:00.680Adam Kinzinger. He just has better hair than Adam Kinzinger. But there are basically two peas in the
00:06:07.480same pod. Both suffer from severe Trump derangement syndrome. Both refuse to look at the facts that0.76
00:06:14.120took place in the 2020 election. And so I'm very glad that the president had that addressed last
00:06:19.060night. I think a lot of Americans are waking up to voter fraud and rigged elections. I think what
00:06:24.180happened to spencer pratt in california a couple weeks ago actually mainstreamed the president
00:06:30.400trump's concerns and questions around 2020 because they saw they all saw what took place against
00:06:36.620spencer you know spencer isn't a typical republican candidate he really kind of cuts through the
00:06:41.580culture and has a really unique follower base and and he got second place on election day
00:06:48.900And then two weeks later, that crazy socialist woman just so happened to find all of the votes through mail-in and ended up taking second place. And so a lot of people watch that and they say, wait a second, maybe Trump was onto something about 2020. Maybe our elections aren't that secure.
00:07:06.020And so I think Save America a couple of weeks ago was an 80-20 issue. Today, I think it's 90-10. The Save America Act is the most critical piece of legislation that has hit the floor of Congress in maybe my lifetime. And we really need to get that passed. And so I hope your audience calls our senators and tells them to vote to pass the Save America Act.
00:07:27.480Oh, absolutely. I'm sure every one of them 100% supports exactly that type of legislation.
00:07:32.940And it is amazing if you count mail-in ballots long enough, you just always get a Democrat victory.
00:07:37.980It's how bizarre. How does it always break in this one direction?
00:07:41.920It seems obvious, but I guess this leads me to the next question I have for you, which is what is going on with the SAVE Act?
00:07:49.060Because, look, just logically, right, if we're just looking at strategy, we don't need to think about the better angels of our politicians.
00:07:56.620We don't have to believe they actually care about us. Right. But if you're a Republican, you know that having voter security increases the likelihood that you will win an election. Right. Like in my state, Ron DeSantis, very popular for what he did during covid, probably saw a bump in his numbers in his gubernatorial election due to that.
00:08:14.920But also you clean up the voter rolls in Florida, which really, I think, changed and gave him that landslide victory for sure.
00:08:21.660When you see those results as a Republican, if you are just self-interested, you should want something like the SAVE Act.
00:08:28.480And yet we have a Republican Congress and we can't get the SAVE Act through.
00:08:32.940So I ask this of everybody who is in Washington because it's just amazing to me.
00:08:37.540It's so bizarre. What is possibly motivating these Republican holdouts to keep a bill that
00:08:44.020would in every single way benefit their side? And it's the right thing to do on top of everything
00:08:49.480else. Right. I haven't heard any clear or sensible objections to the Save America Act from the
00:08:57.620Republican side. I am optimistic that the Republican Party will ultimately get this through.
00:09:03.160Even Lindsey Graham, the late Lindsey Graham, was a champion of it, and he was a bit more aligned at times with the establishment wing.
00:09:10.820And so the establishment Republican Party, they need to hear the concerns of their voters, hear the facts that the president laid out related to foreign interference and how easily our elections were kind of becoming compromised, and they need to create more safe measures to protect our elections.
00:09:32.320The White House keeps hammering home the point. Americans should decide American elections.
00:09:37.440It's common sense. And one of the ways that you can ensure that takes place is requiring voter ID.
00:09:43.800And so the Save America Act will provide that as well as some other very important core conservative America first pillars.
00:09:52.460And so it's common sense legislation. It's not to be honest, it's not right or left.
00:09:56.720It's common sense legislation. And I'm optimistic that we can get that done.
00:10:01.100we really need to see Senator Majority Leader John Thune show some courage and deliver some
00:10:07.380results for us. So I have one more question before we move on to kind of the anti-avance
00:10:12.820operation that's obviously playing itself out right now. When Donald Trump says something like
00:10:18.600China is this very serious threat to our election integrity and these kind of things, I absolutely1.00
00:10:24.000believe him. I think that's 100% correct. But then we have the question of, for instance,1.00
00:10:28.980Chinese students coming into America, to American universities. The president has said that
00:10:34.220ultimately we need Chinese students to prop up these universities. And that's why we're kind0.99
00:10:39.960of keeping the gates open for them. First, I don't want to prop up the liberal universities. I don't
00:10:44.720care if they go under. They're the enemy. Second, if China is a threat, and we know so many of these
00:10:50.000Chinese students literally turn into spies, you know, they end up in R&D departments, they end up0.91
00:10:54.880in university departments, they end up smuggling things into the United States or smuggling secrets1.00
00:10:59.720out. If we know that China is an enemy and we know that the students coming here are often used for0.64
00:11:05.660nefarious purposes by the CCP, isn't this a danger? I mean, if we're trying to reduce immigration in0.91
00:11:12.020general, this seems like a great place to start, right? I hear what you're saying. And I don't1.00
00:11:16.980think that the president has that position because he's soft on China. I think no president in
00:11:21.640American history, at least in our lifetimes, has been stronger on China. And he's economically
00:11:27.380shrinking their economy. He's geographically taking over strategic areas around the globe
00:11:35.800that have benefited the Chinese over the Americans. And so the president certainly isn't
00:11:41.500weak on China. The president is a dealmaker. He negotiates, and he likes to keep things in his
00:11:48.480toolkit uh when times are when you need them and so look i hear what you're saying on that is
00:11:54.160i'm not a major fan of allowing any foreign nationals into american universities but i'm
00:12:00.940very confident the president understands what he's doing when it comes to dealing with the
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00:12:39.860I certainly hope that would be fantastic if there's some action on that front,
00:12:43.960because it's just one of those things that was always hard to resolve.
00:12:46.840Again, I agree with the president entirely that this is a nation that does not have our best interests at heart.0.99
00:12:52.780But, you know, as with so many other aspects of our immigration policy, for instance, allowing Islam into the country, so many people are talking about the socialism that it's taking over.1.00
00:13:02.500But it's hard not to notice that this is almost entirely due to the foreign influence of immigrants coming in.1.00
00:13:07.800So it just, you know, to me, it makes perfect sense to just go ahead and shut this down across the board as much as possible.1.00
00:13:12.740So I do hope that's ultimately something that we do aim for.
00:13:16.840That said, the second thing that is happening in the news right now, actually, really, that's dominating the news cycle at the moment, is this interview that J.D. Vance did on Joe Rogan.
00:13:28.000Now, you were on Tucker Carlson a few weeks ago, I believe, at this point, maybe a month ago, and you talked at that point about the fact that there has been some attempt by elements of the Israeli government to strike contracts with people in the United States to message on issues like the Iran war.
00:13:59.060We even had people like Randy Fine threaten to not vote with the Republican Party until you were fired, which is a very bizarre thing for someone to engage in, saying they're not going to vote while they were.
00:14:12.960Randy Fine and I are on good terms now.
00:14:16.740And I'm confident Randy Fine will vote for the president 100 percent of the time.
00:14:22.680Well, that's great to hear. But it is still one of those moments that is very bizarre that we entered it in the first place.
00:14:28.020The point being is that he was far from alone.
00:14:30.620Laura Loomer, many other people kind of went after you, hammer and tong, after this interview.
00:14:38.380And when J.D. Vance was on Joe Rogan, he basically said two things.
00:14:42.760We need to treat Israel like we treat every other ally.
00:14:45.520that seems entirely reasonable right treat them like the uk treat them like france he didn't say
00:14:50.300we don't want to be allies with israel we hate israel we oppose it none of that he just said
00:14:55.720we should treat these people as we treat our other allies which is as common sense as one can get i
00:15:00.740would think and then the other thing that he did that a lot of people got angry with was
00:15:05.320cite basically the same thing you were talking about that had been reported by multiple publications
00:15:11.220including i think like the wall street journal and such and so uh that citation has sent people
00:15:17.400into a frenzy we now see all kinds of conservative hosts i'm not going to run through all the names
00:15:22.120i'm not going to sit here and call everybody out but it has been wild to see so many people
00:15:27.020going after jd vance saying i i can no longer support this guy we have to replace him put
00:15:31.760somebody like marco ruby and all these things first i don't think there's a lot of space between
00:15:35.940Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance. I think this rivalry is being manufactured by the media so that they
00:15:41.820can try to draw some level of antagonism inside the administration. But why did we see this
00:15:48.540backlash? What was that response about? I think you're very smart to, excuse me,
00:15:54.920I think you're very smart to acknowledge that there's no separation between Marco Rubio and
00:16:00.000J.D. Vance. They're working for the same team. They're working for President Trump,
00:16:03.260And they are working together incredibly well. And a lot of these bad actors are using Marco Rubio as an attempt, not because they're genuine supporters of his, but to kind of try to sow division between our team.
00:16:17.540And so it's quite nefarious what they're doing. They're not supporters of Marco Rubio, because if they were, they wouldn't be as nasty and vicious as they are.
00:16:23.700I think they're either, A, being funded by, as the vice president said, a foreign element, or B, they're supporters of a dark horse political candidate who is interested in 2028, and they're just trying to sow some chaos, and so there isn't a unified front going into 2028.
00:16:44.580And I'll say this. I'm personally not focused on 2028 myself. I have no interest in talking about 2028 because I'm focused on right here and now working with President Trump to help make America great again and and do the job that President Trump was elected to do.
00:16:59.580And so all of this online chatter, it's being manufactured. Who is it being manufactured by? I think that's the million dollar question, potentially the 50 million dollar question. And we need to get to the bottom of it.
00:17:10.980And the vice president, I think, was incredibly articulate and thoughtful with how he communicated about Israel and even about this alleged paid influencer campaign that's taking place.
00:17:23.620And the vice president cited a Time magazine story as well as a Wall Street Journal article to kind of back up some of their claims.
00:17:30.940The Wall Street Journal has said that the nation of Israel is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on influence campaigns in America to promote their interests for the Iran war, as well as improve their image.
00:17:46.140And they're not alone in spending money in attempts to improve their image.
00:17:52.120And to be honest, you know, they are in the top 10.
00:17:56.920There's many countries that spend more than them.
00:17:59.540But but right now I'm specifically calling it out because a lot of these accounts on social media are connected in some way, shape or form to operations that are financed by the state of Israel.
00:18:17.400And that's a fact. That isn't anti-Semitic. That isn't me being anti-Israel. That is me being an American citizen who understands how social media works, who is pointing out that there is clearly coordinated campaigns that are taking place.
00:18:32.080And what I found to be the most fascinating reaction was when there was speculation that certain people on the pro-Israel side of the argument were being compensated for their beliefs, all of these people freaked out.
00:18:48.340They said, how dare you accuse us of being paid?
00:18:54.300Meanwhile, for the last year and a half, they've accused every single person in the world,
00:18:59.680including the president of the United States at some point, of being bought and paid for by Qatar.
00:19:06.420And they've provided zero evidence.0.86
00:19:09.740And look, I'm not saying Qatar is innocent.
00:19:12.060Qatar obviously spends so much money in the United States of America.
00:19:17.300I wish countries wouldn't spend any money in the United States of America.
00:19:20.840I'm against, if it was up to Alex Beruzowitz, there'd be no foreign lobbying, no foreign influence campaigns, period, full stop, United States of America.
00:19:30.000However, nobody can point me to an exact example of how Qatar pays social media influencers.
00:19:38.600However, I have seen examples of the Israeli government engaging with American influencers and paying them.
00:19:49.320And so there was a project called Project Esther, which wasn't run by Brad Parscale, by the way, which very well could be alive still in this moment and still going on.
00:19:59.940I don't know. But there's been hundreds of millions of dollars that have been spent trying to shape American opinion related to issues that align with Israel.
00:20:12.440And so I've simply been calling it out. I've obviously received pushback, as you acknowledged, but it's OK.0.85
00:20:19.280I'm used to it. I grew up playing video games. So video game culture kind of gives me a cooler head and more toxic battlefields, if you will.
00:20:28.240but i i i personally am an ally of israel i want to see israel succeed and and thrive and have a
00:20:35.340great partnership with america but what i don't want to see happen is i don't want to see them
00:20:40.400use certain tools in our country to try to manipulate public opinion i'm not in favor of
00:20:46.800them i'm in favor if they do it i'm not in favor if russia does it india qatar i don't like that
00:20:51.120and so i've been calling it out yeah i appreciate that you having been in xbox lobbies means that
00:20:56.620you're uh prepared for for this kind of warfare but uh uh you know i've noticed the same thing
00:21:02.680of course uh you know i've only been doing this for a few years i started out talking about the
00:21:07.200problem of you know ukraine having the level of influence that it had that it seemed to be
00:21:12.020exercising uh russia china i even you know got heated when the uk labor party was sending people
00:21:19.100over to the united states to try to fight against trump i mean again obvious obvious foreign
00:21:24.340interference and every time i talked about how much i hated this foreign interference i got
00:21:28.660nothing but support right across the board at least from conservatives you know liberals were
00:21:32.480calling me a russian agent whatever but ultimately the point is that my criticism of foreign influence
00:21:37.660was always welcome always treated as valid always treated as something that was patriotic and in the
00:21:43.240interests of the united states got pc optimum points visit shoppers drug mark for the bonus
00:21:49.500redemption event and get more for your points friday july 17th to wednesday july 22nd valid
00:21:55.480in-store and online when i said the same thing about israeli influence once it was clear that
00:22:04.640it was you know being purchased all i got was the same the very same reaction you're talking
00:22:10.200about here and it seems ridiculous we can't have this double standard as you said you know there's
00:22:15.340a conversation about israel as a ally right there's a conversation a rational conversation to
00:22:20.980have about the benefits or drawbacks of having israel as an ally i think as you point out foreign
00:22:26.860influence is bad across the board and you know one of the things i love to cite is george
00:22:30.860washington's farewell address where he says if you are out there constantly involved in foreign
00:22:36.040politics you will get foreign influence and that is the death of republics foreign influence for
00:22:40.900george washington was the death of republic so i'm with you 100 you know we should get out all
00:22:45.880of this everything qatar russia china whoever israel as well we just should not have foreign
00:22:51.620influence in the united states that said we are a global superpower there's always going to be some
00:22:56.540level of attempt to influence the united states but when you are seen as a trusted ally i just
00:23:02.240think it behooves you to act in accordance with that and recognize have some level of deference
00:23:06.860especially when you're in a war that you know this is going to look very bad ultimately if you have
00:23:11.920this kind of operation going on i think it's just a poor decision to engage in that and to attack
00:23:17.320anybody as some kind of you know hater or anti-semite for pointing out the same thing they
00:23:22.220point about every other country but that said uh people might not be familiar with your explanation
00:23:27.820of kind of how you were approached initially how brad parcells gets engaged so can you lay out some
00:23:32.900that history about how you became aware of this effort personally because they approached you and
00:23:37.140then other efforts that have now kind of manifested themselves and created these stories that people
00:23:42.260are talking about yep definitely well um for for starters in june of 2025 a gentleman who i know
00:23:52.340engaged with israel to promote their interest through europe uh approached me about doing a
00:24:01.540online social media campaign in support of Israel regarding the Iran war. And I respectfully
00:24:09.420declined the offer. And I said, I don't participate in foreign campaigns, so I can't help you with
00:24:15.600this one. And I thought nothing of it. And then a couple of months later, I saw a lot of these
00:24:22.620contracts started being shelled out to American influencer marketing companies to the tune of
00:24:30.480tens of millions of dollars and part of me was like ah you know i could have made a lot of money
00:24:35.280but you know uh i i don't i don't take foreign money but so i i saw it and for for about a year
00:24:44.240i kind of watched and sat back and i noticed a massive change in the amount of pro-israel content
00:24:52.560that was being flooded on the internet and this also kind of correlates with a a moment where
00:24:59.440Benjamin Netanyahu came to New York City and the United Nations and he met with a handful of
00:25:04.960influencers. And he talked about how, you know, they're fighting Hamas and they're fighting
00:25:10.940the Islamists on the battlefield. And but but we also need he's going to rely on American
00:25:17.380influencers to fight the information war online. And and so I know that took place. I know that
00:25:25.460happened. Everybody can go watch that video. And then shortly after that, there was a massive
00:25:30.320influx of pro-Israel content. I'm not opposed necessarily to pro-Israel content. And a lot of
00:25:37.500the contracts were signed in the name of combating antisemitism. I am not opposed to combating
00:25:43.520antisemitism. My issues a lot with the contracts were the language was very vague. And I believe
00:25:51.880that there was a firm that was engaged to combat anti-Semitism by attacking voices online like
00:26:00.340Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and people who are a bit critical of Israel. And to be honest,
00:26:06.360I didn't say anything about the campaign for a year because I didn't like what Megyn Kelly or
00:26:12.500Tucker Carlson were saying specifically around the president of the United States. And so I was
00:26:16.300like, you know, if they're going to say nasty things about the president, I'm not going to
00:26:19.420speak out and defend them. But it was their lucky day about a month ago, because the president was
00:26:27.540interested in winding down the Iran war. The vice president and Jared Kushner and Steve
00:26:35.840Whitcoff worked on a great MOU to start bringing the war to an end. And all of a sudden,
00:26:43.580these same influencers who I've been tracking as part of this coordinated campaign against Tucker
00:26:49.680and Megan for the past year, they all turned their sights on the president's MOU. And they
00:26:55.920all started attacking the MOU. And I'm like, okay, what's going on here? I got to say something.
00:27:02.240And so I did. And people were unhappy about it. The Time Magazine article specifically focused
00:27:12.280around Brad Parscale's contract, which is the largest FAR contract in history for one single
00:27:17.460entity. And I point a lot to a draft contract that is in the FAR filings. It says he's going
00:27:26.660to integrate narrative messaging into Salem Media properties. It says he's going to create 5,000
00:27:32.700pieces of content every month on behalf of the nation of Israel. He's going to guarantee a
00:27:37.080minimum of 50 million impressions for them, X, Y, Z. And so I simply quote tweeted Brad and I said,
00:27:46.560what is this contract? What's up with that? What does integrate narrative messaging mean?
00:27:51.460And for your audience, I think it's important to note that Brad Parscale actually called me last
00:27:56.800night and he informed me that said, Alex, that is just a draft contract. I wanted to do all of
00:28:03.240those things for for israel but i can't i legally can't integrate narrative messaging into
00:28:10.360silent media properties uh if you know and and so he basically told me that that he swears on
00:28:18.380his life that he is not involved in the paid for influencer campaign uh you know perhaps he has
00:28:25.440transparency he can show showcase that he said that his focus has been on sms text messaging
00:28:30.220He sent text messages on behalf of Israel to millions of Americans around the world or around the country to improve the image of Israel and to ask them to support the Iran war.
00:28:45.220And again, I said, well, thank you for the transparency.
00:28:48.280I also don't like that you're doing that.
00:28:51.200But he also agreed with me that he finds that coordinated attacks against the MOU to be quite suspicious.
00:28:58.960And he assumes, like me, that there is probably some manufacturing going into it.
00:29:05.220And so, look, I don't know if Brad's telling the truth.
00:32:18.160The real enemies are China and Russia.
00:32:21.020Well, you know, we're not saying India is an enemy.
00:32:24.620They just haven't been treating us fairly.
00:32:26.980And the president is being an equal opportunity tariff guy.
00:32:31.060So he's putting tariffs on every country.
00:32:33.220But all of a sudden, these influencers were very outraged about tariffs going on India, and they've never tweeted about India before in a positive way in their entire lives.
00:32:41.220And so, look, we need to crack down on it.
00:32:43.600There used to be a very organic, you know, there used to be this organic feel to right-wing acts.
00:32:51.420And what has happened is it's been hijacked by special interest groups, by lobbyists, by foreign lobbyists, by foreign countries.
00:33:00.240And almost all day, every day online, the only narratives that you see coming from right wing creators are being funneled in through special interest groups, lobbyists or foreign countries.
00:33:13.020I think that's really damaging to the platform's integrity.
00:33:16.480I think it's damaging to political discourse in our country.
00:33:20.820I think that they become less and less effective because, you know, when everything's in up, nothing, nothing, you know, matters.
00:33:31.480And so I think that we need to get back to more of an organic and organic feel, grassroots energy for our creators on social media.
00:33:41.440A lot of these creators are subsidized by some way, shape or form, and they tweet full time.
00:33:47.140they get no reach, but somehow they have the ability to tweet full-time. So that raises some
00:33:50.920red flags for me. When I see somebody with 1,000 views or 1,200 views on a tweet every time they
00:33:57.200post something, but somehow they can tweet all day every day, you know, and you probably, it's
00:34:03.440safe to assume that they don't have a full-time job and they're probably being subsidized. And
00:34:08.320so I think there needs to be a lot of disclosures, you know, increased disclosures around
00:34:13.380influencer marketing in the political arena i mean i'm personally offended that i have not
00:34:18.720been approached by any foreign government uh you know to message on their behalf am i am i not
00:34:23.180influential enough am i not doing my job so you're not funded by qatar uh not yet uh but you know
00:34:29.180there's still time i yeah i could use a jet uh i could use a house i could use a pool you know i
00:34:33.620could uh i could use a nice sports car i'm sure we can figure this out uh but uh let me ask you
00:34:39.640this you mentioned uh salem media um and parskels and it's really interesting you know i don't know
00:34:47.260as you say for sure whether or not he's receiving money for this if he's ultimately fulfilling these
00:34:51.500contracts i did notice that i used to be on a salem show twice a week uh before the iran war
00:34:57.380and uh that phone stopped ringing real quick uh once that broke out uh but you know salem is not
00:35:02.760a small uh network they have many very influential hosts uh radio they used to be in publishing
00:35:08.760everything uh there's a lot of reach there and so when you have even if parscales isn't like
00:35:14.480taking that money directly and fulfilling those contracts at salem the fact that he is involved
00:35:20.540there it feels like that influence probably trickles down either way so even if he's not
00:35:25.500directly inserting narratives into salem programs uh ultimately the fact that he has a serious
00:35:31.340position of leadership there and is also contracted to do this work at some level though we're not
00:35:36.440sure exactly at what. That's a real threat. And if conservatives can't trust their media outlets,
00:35:42.960I mean, this is what collapsed the liberal media, right, is that they constantly did not have the
00:35:48.060interests of the people at heart. They were constantly manipulating stories. There's an
00:35:51.020obvious agenda time after time. And obviously, at some level, this has always existed in
00:35:55.660conservative media. You can never have something that's entirely free of this. But if there's
00:35:59.780really confirmed foreign influence, direct contracts, even if we're not seeing that direct
00:36:05.340insertion of media narratives. But if there are direct contracts between elements of the
00:36:09.420Israeli government and people who have heavy influence in the editorial
00:36:13.320of these networks, that's going to shatter the sphere of trust
00:36:17.580for conservative media watchers. And I think that's a very, very
00:36:21.340dangerous situation to be in. Sure. No, I hear what you're saying.
00:36:25.160And look, I just am repeating what Brad told me yesterday.
00:36:30.480He's very adamant that he is not running
00:36:33.220an online influencer campaign that's targeting the the mou or trying to tank the mou and you know
00:36:40.260legally speaking brad is right he can't integrate narrative messaging into sale and media properties
00:36:46.100that is an fcc violation um you know uh he probably should have studied that before submitting that
00:36:54.020draft contract and i also encouraged him hey man if you're if that's not the deliverables that
00:36:59.220you're doing perhaps you should upload the contract for what you are actually doing um
00:37:04.740but but look i i think there's great people at salem i'm sorry to hear that you were or booted
00:37:10.660off of the show i'm fine but there's great people at salem there's great hosts and it's not my it's
00:37:16.500not my accusation that everyone at salem media is being paid i just had concerns and questions
00:37:22.180around what that language meant in the contract.
00:37:25.520And I think it would be wise for that to be addressed publicly
00:37:32.060But to your point, that type of paid – the fake news,
00:37:38.860the Democrat media totally lost its credibility with their audience
00:37:42.760and with the American people because there wasn't a differentiation
00:37:46.200between what was paid and what's organic.
00:37:48.320And I think that the right wing does. I think that I think the right wing media and online ecosystem runs the risk of losing credibility with our audience as well for the same for the same reasons, not just not just broadcast networks, but also independent creators.
00:38:09.100I think there was this organic feel to – I miss the days of the Republican Internet where everyone was subsidized by MyPillow and gold.
00:38:23.340But now there's so much money coming into the right-wing media ecosystem, and there's a lot less independence, a lot of creators kind of rolling up underneath kind of management umbrellas.
00:38:39.620It's almost like an entertainment industry in a way, if you will, where the influencers have reps to go get them deals.
00:38:57.000I think it's hurt the movement greatly.
00:38:58.540I think Charlie Kirk would be really disappointed in kind of what the online movement looks like.
00:39:03.720Charlie and I grew up in this space together.
00:39:06.720Charlie and I would spend days when I was 16 and he was 19 sitting in our respective basements, mass following people on Twitter and tweeting our reactions to primetime Fox News.
00:39:17.320And we went from, like, 2,000 followers to tens of thousands of followers over a short period of time.
00:39:23.780Charlie Kirk understood their right-wing Internet better than anybody.
00:39:26.900And I think he'd be very disappointed with how much the special interest groups have infiltrated.
00:39:35.300And so it's my hope and my belief that stronger disclosure laws related to paid for posts will lead to, you know, ultimately a healthier Internet for our movement.
00:39:50.520Now, you know, a lot of people say that people only talk about things because they get paid.
00:39:55.520And, you know, I think there's some truth, you know, that happens at certain times.
00:39:59.940But I think in general, people are accepting money on things they're already kind of in support of.
00:40:04.440uh and so you know maybe some of this is is people being paid directly and shifting their
00:40:09.440opinion but a lot of people are just having their voices amplified i think by or subsidized by that
00:40:14.900more than their opinion entirely constructed now one of the things i've noticed you off on that
00:40:19.640point though i want to i want to talk about that point because you're exactly right it's similar to
00:40:24.640like i i think it's so similar to the entertainment industry now because you know there's actors who
00:40:31.660only want to participate in certain types of movies like an actor might want to be known as
00:40:37.500a tough guy and so he only wants action movies where he plays a certain character a certain role
00:40:42.520and so his agents will go meet with studios and producers and directors and you know pitch them
00:40:49.340for certain roles right same thing with the the entertainment for for politics they'll identify
00:40:54.800the interests of the said influencer, and then they'll go match them with a special interest
00:41:01.740group. And, you know, whether it's, you know, whether it's foreign policy related, whether
00:41:12.520it's religious, religion related, whether it's technology, whether it's finance, whatever it may
00:41:21.000be. But they have representatives who are kind of brokering those deals or identifying those
00:41:25.360opportunities that they align with. And so a lot of the influencers will say, I have never been
00:41:30.580paid for something that I didn't already believe in. Okay, amazing. Thank you for that. Congratulations.
00:41:36.680But you do get paid for your tweets. And then they go, I already believed in it. And so that's
00:41:42.740exactly right. They find issues that they believe in, and then they're subsidized by them. And they
00:41:48.180incentivized to tweet about them more often. And so I don't think that anyone has been paid to
00:41:54.680become pro-Israel. I think a lot of pro-Israel creators have been paid to tweet more about
00:42:00.900Israel every day and defend Israel every day as a full-time job. So I don't think they're paying
00:42:06.140people to switch their opinion. But I do think that Israel-aligned interests organizations
00:42:40.900So one of the things I noticed about now the attacks on J.D. Vance is they tend to come from people who, frankly, were never Trump in the first place.
00:42:54.880They were usually people who fought against Trump in the primaries in 2016, who backed Ron DeSantis against him in 2020.
00:43:05.040Interestingly, you know, I love Ron DeSantis.
00:43:22.620But all of them are now kind of resurrecting themselves as, you know, these people who are attacking J.D. Vance.
00:43:29.400and they all try to say that you know just a few months ago they were saying anybody who had any
00:43:35.800questions about the iran war or anything like that these people were you know completely anti-trump
00:43:40.940you're not allowed to have any constructive criticism or questions about this we have to
00:43:45.020have complete total loyalty at every moment without any advice or questions about what's going on and
00:43:50.460then the minute that president trump says actually i think we're done with the iran war i think we've
00:43:55.000achieved what we need to achieve and it's time to go home and focus on domestic issues magically
00:43:58.760actually it turns out we can uh attack the administration and we can do it 24 7 now most0.59
00:44:03.920of them aren't dumb enough to go directly at donald trump and so they're going after jd vance
00:44:08.900as if he is not directly following the instructions of donald trump to achieve his vision for what0.98
00:44:14.540should be happening in this peace process and i think part of that is because they simply know
00:44:18.760that going after the king is always a mistake and so go you know go after one of the advisors
00:44:23.400instead. But I think that's also what happened with you. But also what I've noticed is that I
00:44:30.240think a lot of these guys have been waiting to kill MAGA. I think that they never wanted MAGA
00:44:35.320to come into power. They never wanted Trump to come into power. They were never Trumpers. They
00:44:39.020knew that they had to play the game once Trump was in power, because let's be honest, the Republican
00:44:42.360Party is dead. The party is Trump. Trump dictates the party. End of story, however you feel about
00:44:47.060that. And so they hate that. They want to get rid of that. And they see J.D. Vance as the
00:44:52.860ideological successor to Trump. He's the guy who's going to continue to move America in this kind of
00:44:58.460populist right nationalist direction. And that's exactly the opposite of what many of these
00:45:04.220neoconservative stalwarts, these established stalwarts wanted. So part of this is trying
00:45:08.860to go after Trump and in the peace deal because of that. But another part of this is going after
00:45:13.760the vice president because he represents the legacy of Trump into the future. And if they
00:45:17.500can't stop him, well, that might be the death of mainstream establishment conservatism. We might
00:45:22.620be seeing a truly Trumpian right moving forward. Yeah, I think that's great analysis. And you're
00:45:28.060seeing exactly what we're seeing. That is the same cabal of anti-Trumpers who signed the front
00:45:32.680of the National Review saying that they will never support President Trump in 2016. I'll say
00:45:41.340Glenn Beck also signed that, but he became an absolute great supporter of ours. And I am a fan
00:45:47.340of Glenn Beck. But a lot of the same people signed that letter or the cover page in 2016,
00:45:54.480and they're still against President Trump today. They were against him in 2020. They were against
00:45:58.440him in the 2024 primary. And so, you know, you're exactly right. You know, I pointed out this girl
00:46:08.640today. Her name is Jamie Michelle. She's a 41-year-old lesbian woman who is anti-woke but
00:46:13.700adopts children, but she's anti-woke. But she tweeted negative things about the vice president1.00
00:46:22.040for the past few weeks. But this is someone who I know hates President Trump. She ran anti-Trump
00:46:29.480burner accounts in the 2024 primary. And all of a sudden, she became this ardent defender of the
00:46:37.380president and taking J.D. Vance's past quotes about the president and saying, J.D. Vance is
00:46:45.620not true MAGA, not a true ally of President Trump. Well, you don't have the president's
00:46:53.120best interests in mind. I know personally you hate the president. And so it's very obvious
00:46:58.400what's taking place. It's very obvious that there's an op taking place. So I think there's
00:47:04.920multiple ops, if you will, running parallel. I think that there's ops being funded online from
00:47:11.960foreign countries, or simultaneously domestically funded by potential 2028 challengers. And I think
00:47:21.340it's very selfish and foolish of them to, you know, try to undermine the president's administration0.95
00:47:27.640at this moment in time. But I also find it hilarious that one of the major criticisms of0.88
00:47:35.400Governor DeSantis' presidential campaign was the idiocy coming from his online army.1.00
00:47:42.340Yes. And instead of 2028 challengers looking at what DeSantis did wrong, they're thinking,0.99
00:47:51.020wait a second i'm gonna go get those same exact people to go be on my team and the same group of1.00
00:47:59.100idiots are moving in unison once again and they're going to cause major problems for whoever they0.98
00:48:07.780end up supporting in a few months and i promise you it's not going to be marco rubio you're going0.99
00:48:13.640to be like wait a second all of these guys who are saying marco rubio marco rubio they're going
00:48:17.920to start promoting this dark horse candidate that's just waiting to see how the midterms play
00:48:23.460out before they announce. We know who it is. We just don't want to give, we just don't want to
00:48:28.860give our hand at the moment, but we know who it is. Well, I won't say Ted Cruz out loud, but that
00:48:34.800said, I want to ask you one more thing before we go discussing foreign influence. So a lot of
00:48:41.680people are looking at the defense authorization moving through Congress right now. And there's
00:48:47.140two points that are very concerning to people. One is a provision that involves the state of
00:48:53.580Israel at some level with R&D and the procurement process, as I understand it. The other is one
00:49:01.000that requires intelligence sharings with the state of Israel unless the president would go
00:49:05.860back to Congress and explicitly get permission not to share that. I'm sure the administration,
00:49:11.300you know, I'm sure the president does not want his authority, you know, attacked on this. We
00:49:15.460not be attacking Article II powers through this legislation. But many people are concerned,
00:49:22.320you know, when the administration sees some kind of bipartisan support for this, when you can't get
00:49:28.060it for the SAVE Act, I wonder what they think about that. Because again, I just can't imagine
00:49:32.740a moment in which the president would want to see his ability to make decisions on what
00:49:38.760intelligence we share with allies or any other country, somehow hamstrung by some administrative
00:49:45.720procedure that then has to go back to the Congress. That just seems like a serious mistake.
00:49:51.100Is there anything I'm missing about this? To be honest, I've seen a lot of chatter around
00:49:55.600that particular section. I think it's section 219 online. I must admit I have not read it,
00:50:01.540but I will be doing that later today. And I will get back to you on my thoughts around that. But
00:50:06.800I think the president wants to do what's best for the American people and what will keep America
00:50:11.580the most secure. And I'm confident he will make that decision. So I'm gonna take a look. I'm
00:50:15.880gonna read section 219. I'll get back to you on my opinion on it. No, I appreciate that because
00:50:19.940it's definitely something that's confusing. It's buried in a lot of stuff. I have friends who do
00:50:24.140good analysis on this and they assure me it does have some of these connotations, but some people
00:50:29.420have overblown it and said, well, it just completely gives Israel control of our military
00:50:33.720I don't think it does that, but I do think it creates this kind of barrier between not sharing.
00:50:40.280It makes it easier to, you know, mandatory to share and an act of Congress basically to not share.
00:50:45.480And that's something that concerns me because along with just the foreign influence factor,
00:50:50.240it's more for me just the fact that we are constraining the natural power of the executive
00:50:54.580to have authority over our intelligence, which only empowers the deep state more,
00:50:58.120which is exactly opposite of what President Trump wants.
00:51:01.240I will take a look at it and I'll let you know my thoughts, all right?
00:51:03.720Fantastic. All right. We're going to go ahead and wrap this up. And everybody, this is a prerecord, so sorry, but we won't be able to do any audience questions today. But Alex, I appreciate you coming on so much. And guys, if it's your first time on this channel, you need to click subscribe, the bell notifications, all that stuff so you know when we go live. And if you want to get these broadcast as podcasts, you need to subscribe on your favorite podcast platform. Thank you, everybody, for watching. And as always, I'll talk to you next time.