The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 05, 2025


Game Theory and the 'N-Word' | 5⧸5⧸25


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A woman was caught on video throwing racial slurs at a man in a park. She received a lot of backlash, but when she started a GoFundMe campaign, she received over $600,000 in donations. Is racism really so hard to be talked about?

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00:00:00.220 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre.
00:00:06.460 There was an explosive incident that came around this weekend. A woman was caught on
00:00:12.640 video throwing racial slurs at a man in a park. Now, normally, this is something that
00:00:18.740 destroys people's lives. We've seen this previously. Just the slightest implication of racism
00:00:25.320 on a video could end up putting your whole life in danger. It would publicly destroy you.
00:00:32.280 And yet, in this case, this woman, Shiloh Hendricks, had a different outcome. She did have all of the
00:00:38.620 pressure you would expect online. She was threatened, all of these things. But ultimately, when she
00:00:44.360 started a fundraiser, instead of seeing her get smacked down or banned, she actually received a
00:00:51.620 lot of money. At this point, over $600,000. And it started to become clear that this incident was
00:00:59.140 not just about what happened to her in that scenario or what she did, but it was a stand-in for a race
00:01:06.760 relations situation that has become untenable in the United States. So I want to dive into what happened
00:01:13.760 and why this backlash was predictable, why we should have expected exactly this result eventually,
00:01:20.920 and kind of what it means for the future. But before we do that today, guys, let's hear
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00:02:20.200 All right, so like I said, this woman, Shiloh Hendricks, she's in Minnesota, I believe, and
00:02:26.000 she was at a park, and while she was at this park, apparently a five-year-old stole something
00:02:33.460 out of her bag. Now, obviously, that's not good, and you have every right to be angry at
00:02:39.440 a five-year-old if they steal something. Even though it's a child, they're still not allowed
00:02:43.320 to steal from you, and their parent should involve themselves in correcting that situation.
00:02:49.160 Now, Shiloh Hendricks, again, allegedly, I don't believe this part is entirely on the video,
00:02:54.120 but she ended up calling the child who took the item the N-word, as we have to call it.
00:03:01.680 You know, we have this ridiculous thing where you can't even use the word in context of condemning
00:03:06.620 it if you don't like it or something like that. You just have to, it's literally a blasphemy
00:03:12.380 law in our society. Like, you cannot blaspheme, you cannot utter the sacred word out loud.
00:03:18.680 And so she used that word. Now, to be clear at the beginning, in case, you know, this isn't
00:03:23.700 obvious, you shouldn't do that, right? Like, you shouldn't throw around racial slurs, you
00:03:28.420 really, or you definitely should not direct them at children. You know, in a moment of anger
00:03:33.880 and frustration, however, that is what happened. Now, I would show you the video, but obviously
00:03:39.280 the language involved would immediately get it taken off of YouTube, so you could just
00:03:43.680 kind of figure out how this goes. But after she allegedly did this, a man is filming her,
00:03:51.420 and he walks up and says, oh, did you just say this, the N-word to this child? And she says,
00:03:57.860 what are you talking about? It's none of your business. Kind of tries to wave away.
00:04:00.540 He gets in her face. He continues to film. He continues to say, hey, did you do this? Did
00:04:07.120 you do this? It is my business. Did you do this? And eventually she triples down, right? She 0.88
00:04:12.240 just kind of drops a hard R several more times in this man's direction before leaving with
00:04:18.520 her child. Now, a couple interesting things about the context here. Apparently, the guy who
00:04:25.540 filmed this is a Somali immigrant who is an alleged pedophile, like is alleged for sexual assault 0.99
00:04:33.440 against a minor. And so the first question, the thing you would think people might be more concerned 0.97
00:04:40.660 about is, what is a man with that kind of record doing hanging out at the park with children?
00:04:46.900 Right? Like, that's actually the most concerning thing in this video is the guy filming the video
00:04:52.840 and his presence in an area where he clearly shouldn't be. And yet that's not even part of
00:04:59.400 the controversy. Of course, the most important thing is the words she said. Now, the other
00:05:04.040 interesting thing that happened in this scenario is, of course, all the doxing and threats and
00:05:09.620 everything you would expect with a viral video of this nature, sadly, in our current society
00:05:14.040 comes about, right? She gets threatened. I think her social security number gets thrown out there
00:05:19.180 and she feels like she has to move. And she probably does, right? She probably needs to relocate
00:05:23.980 in order to protect the safety of herself and her child. Now, she goes online and starts this
00:05:31.080 fundraiser. And the fundraiser starts to become something of a rallying cry. All of a sudden,
00:05:38.020 lots of money is pouring into this thing. And eventually, she gets more money in this fundraiser 1.00
00:05:44.560 than Carmelo Anthony. Now, for those who are not familiar, I already did an episode or two on this,
00:05:51.140 but Carmelo Anthony is the alleged killer of Austin Metcalfe. He allegedly stabbed. I mean,
00:05:59.260 he's kind of admitted that he stabbed him. He said it was in self-defense, but we have to throw
00:06:03.920 allegedly in there, I guess. Allegedly stabbed Austin Metcalfe and killed him. And famously,
00:06:09.340 in that scenario, Austin Metcalfe's father rushed out to forgive Carmelo Anthony. Now,
00:06:17.480 I've spoken a whole show about this in detail. I'm not going to go into all the dynamics
00:06:23.040 involved with Christian forgiveness here. I've already done that somewhere else. So if you want
00:06:27.580 to go watch that video, you can. However, what that did, unfortunately, was embolden Carmelo Anthony.
00:06:35.080 And so rather than be humbled by the forgiveness offered by Austin Metcalfe's father, he went out
00:06:42.480 there and said, oh, no, I'm blameless. I was defending myself. This is all fine. And he started
00:06:49.020 putting himself as some kind of victim of racial profiling, some kind of racist system. And that's
00:06:54.840 the only reason he's being arrested, anything like that. Not only did he do that, he started raising
00:07:00.000 money. He raised over half a million dollars for stabbing a white kid, right? That's literally
00:07:06.140 the, you know, allegedly, you know, that in the most reductive way, that is exactly what happened.
00:07:13.120 Not in the absurdity is that, you know, he like got a nice big house and a new car, like, you know,
00:07:18.940 very clearly, this money is not just going to, you know, help some poor downtrodden kid with his
00:07:26.180 legal defense. You know, he's getting rich. So he was rewarded for stabbing a white kid at a track
00:07:34.240 meet, right? And a lot of people saw that they saw the injustice in that moment. And they wanted a 0.57
00:07:40.040 different outcome. You know, I think they wanted to see something different occur. And so the only way
00:07:46.580 they knew how to react to this injustice, I think, was to ultimately fund someone like Shiloh. And so you
00:07:54.640 have this amazing moment where, like, all these people are, like, rallying to, like, have dueling
00:08:00.460 donations. And I say amazing in, like, the worst way that both of these people are literally getting
00:08:08.020 rich off this moment. But it's understandable, right? There's a certain level of tit for tat
00:08:15.900 going on here. And that's kind of what I wanted to talk about. We should have known that things are
00:08:21.780 going to come to this moment, right? Because of the long train of abuses that a lot of people have
00:08:27.780 suffered. So we've seen people get destroyed on the internet for this kind of thing in the past.
00:08:35.660 But it wasn't even close to as egregious as kind of the video that Shiloh had put out there. You know,
00:08:42.560 there was, you know, during the Great Awakening and the, you know, 2020 and everything else that has
00:08:49.060 been going on, we've had people who obviously we had government sponsored race riots, which is a
00:08:53.680 pretty, you know, government condoned race riots are going to mess with your race relations pretty
00:08:58.740 good. People are going to get pretty cynical about your race relations when that's how your government
00:09:02.740 is officially operating. But then we saw also, like, the dual, the double standard where Black Lives 0.91
00:09:08.880 Matter can, and Antifa can burn down cities and protest and tear down statues and destroy everything
00:09:15.000 around them. But if some people walk into the Capitol on January 6, through doors that were open
00:09:20.280 for them, they're going to spend several years in jail, in many cases, without proper due process,
00:09:27.060 just because the government wants to screw with them, right? Like that, that's the actual standard
00:09:31.080 we have in the United States. On top of that, you know, we think about different situations like that
00:09:37.000 woman who was in a park where a Black man was birdwatching and her dog was off the leash.
00:09:42.360 And she didn't put it back on the leash when he told her to. And so he started filming her and he
00:09:48.480 like lured her dog away and said, I'm going to do whatever I want. Because you're doing whatever
00:09:53.420 you want. And then like, you know, she got hysterical. You know, she didn't want to be
00:09:58.480 filmed. She was terrified, started screaming and her whole life got destroyed for this, right? Like
00:10:03.480 she lost her job. I think she lost like her apartment, everything. Same thing with the nurse. I don't know if
00:10:09.520 you remember this incident a few years ago, where a nurse was trying to get one of those rental bikes,
00:10:15.860 you know, like you rent them from a station in a city, and she had paid for it and taken the bike and
00:10:21.160 some Black guy walked up and said, No, I'm taking this bike. The nurse is pregnant at the time. But he just
00:10:26.400 says, No, I'm taking the bike. And she didn't want to hand it over. She got attacked publicly. She had to get a
00:10:31.600 lawyer who had to go out and like prove that she had purchased the bike and that she wasn't a racist, 0.99
00:10:37.220 but she was just trying to keep this guy from stealing her bike. And still, like she had
00:10:41.740 significant damage to her reputation, you know, had to hire a lawyer, all this stuff to go through all
00:10:47.500 of this. This is the lived reality of a lot of people. We see this over and over again, that even
00:10:52.520 in these minor incidents, where, you know, arguably, you know, no racism was involved at all. It's just
00:10:58.780 you can't have a public interaction with, well, a Black person without getting in trouble, right? 1.00
00:11:05.460 Like that, that's basically what it boils down to. If at any time, a Black person feels uncomfortable 0.95
00:11:10.460 with a public with something that has happened in public with it with any kind of relation they've 0.96
00:11:16.460 had in public, then you could just lose your life, right? You could get fired, you could lose your
00:11:21.400 bank account, you could have you could lose your marriage, you could have your whole social situation
00:11:25.900 destroyed, you can become completely unemployable. Because, you know, someone of the wrong race of a 1.00
00:11:32.660 of a privileged race, said they didn't like the way that you interacted with them, and they put it 0.77
00:11:37.720 online, right? Like, that's a real thing that happens in the United States. And when you give someone
00:11:43.080 that kind of power, they're eventually going to abuse it, you know, most Black people probably aren't 1.00
00:11:47.340 doing this. But when you have the opportunity to do it, at any given time, there are going to be
00:11:53.720 people who exploit it and abuse it, which is why you don't hand this privilege to people.
00:11:58.880 It's absolutely destructive. And so we've we've seen these tensions building over a long time.
00:12:05.580 And I think for a lot of people, the whole Austin Metcalfe thing was a real wake up call,
00:12:12.480 right? Like this, this was kind of the line. Because if someone is going to get rewarded,
00:12:17.480 like they like actually make a large amount of money off of stabbing a kid, then you have a
00:12:26.000 serious problem. Like your society has an insane problem that has to get fixed right away, or things
00:12:31.700 get really bad, right? Like very, very bad. If you are basically paying a certain percentage of the
00:12:39.340 population, if they stab someone, like, obviously, this is going to get very bad very quickly. So you
00:12:46.240 need some kind of formal response. And unfortunately, the government is not going to kind of, at least
00:12:52.020 at this moment, change the way that we kind of experience this problem. And so that means that
00:12:57.760 the average person needs to find some way to work through this scenario. And so even though Shiloh
00:13:04.020 Hendricks is, I'm sure, far from any kind of ideal candidate to rally behind, obviously, this is not the
00:13:11.200 person you would choose, generally, right? This is this is not some upstanding citizen, probably.
00:13:17.520 But ultimately, her moment represents something much larger. And it was very clear that a lot of
00:13:24.060 people had a, they did not understand the dynamics at play. We had a lot of conservatives or very
00:13:30.360 responsible, rational centrists, run out and lecture everybody who was donating to Shiloh Hendricks.
00:13:36.020 You know, they're all the woke right. They're all just identitarians, just like the left is why
00:13:41.600 can't we just ignore race? Why can't we just ignore all these things? Yeah, there's a lot of that 0.99
00:13:46.700 refrain, a lot of the loserdom, you know, suspects were kind of added again. However, they were not
00:13:54.360 factoring in just kind of basic game theory, like just basic human interactions and how they play out
00:14:02.800 in any given space, which is funny, because a lot of these guys pride themselves quite a bit on being
00:14:07.060 like super advanced professors or sociologists or, you know, whatever. And so you think that they
00:14:13.440 would just play out these basic interactions. But of course, their real religion is anti-racism.
00:14:19.080 And it's particularly funny for like the rational centrists, because they spend a lot of time
00:14:22.920 attacking anti-racism as an ideology. But to be clear, like, ultimately, it's what they believe it is
00:14:30.100 their core religion. They just didn't like the way it was being applied under the radical progressive
00:14:35.540 left. But they still hold pretty much the same belief system. And so when they look at an interaction
00:14:42.000 like this, they can't even look at it like rationally, objectively, like, OK, here's why we got
00:14:47.580 this. Here's how this played out. And of course, we were going to get there. They can't even apply
00:14:52.840 that level of intellectual rigor. Instead, it's a lot of, oh, well, just don't be a racist. Just try not
00:14:58.600 to be a racist as if that's the core problem here, that like white people are just too racist. 0.97
00:15:03.500 And and that's why this occurred. They're missing the force for the trees, because ultimately 0.98
00:15:08.680 they're still their core ideology is still gay race communism, just kind of down 10 percent. 0.55
00:15:16.040 Right. Like the last patch of it, the one that they liked when they were in charge. Right.
00:15:19.920 So I want to dive a little bit into the game theory behind this, explain why we were inevitably
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00:16:35.840 to talk a little bit about game theory. Game theory is just a realm of mathematics that kind of talks
00:16:42.180 about how humans interact socially in games, iterations of games, what choices are available
00:16:49.620 to them and how that allows you to kind of predict actions in any given scenario. We've talked about
00:16:55.780 this before in other places, but it's just a very useful framework and it really explains what
00:17:00.960 happened here. And so I want to dive into this for just a second. So you have this moment, right,
00:17:06.980 in any strategy where you are going to either cooperate or defect, right? Does it make some
00:17:13.240 more sense for me to work with someone or does it make more sense for me to betray this agreement
00:17:18.080 and secure my own advantage, right? And in any given game or across any given set of games,
00:17:26.540 the strategies are we can, you know, we can both cooperate or, you know, we can both defect or I can
00:17:33.140 defect and you can cooperate, you know, these are basically your options. And so you have this
00:17:39.240 moment where if you are cooperating and the other person is cooperating, then obviously you're working
00:17:44.540 just fine. But if one person is cooperating and the other person defects, then you have to make a
00:17:50.600 decision. Do I impose a cost on this person or do I allow them to continue to defect? Because if there
00:17:58.320 is no cost to this person, then they will recognize that they can defect without cost whenever they
00:18:03.400 wish and they will choose to defect whenever it benefits them over time, right? So the most common
00:18:09.940 strategy, the strategy that you deploy in order to stop this is tit for tat. So I cooperate, you
00:18:15.840 cooperate, we're good, we're good. I cooperate, you defect. You pay a cost, I will defect too. Now we can
00:18:22.280 either both go back to cooperation or we can, you know, completely split. But the only way I'm going
00:18:28.600 to ever stop you from defecting is to have a cost, to impose a cost on you. Allowing you to continue
00:18:35.220 over and over again to defect is just terrible strategy. It's going to lose every time. So
00:18:42.540 really the only viable strategy to create a equilibrium in the system, to get the system back
00:18:47.740 to cooperate, cooperate is to provide this negative feedback, right? If you have a positive feedback
00:18:53.520 for defecting, if you are rewarded for defecting, then you will continue to do so and the defections
00:18:59.580 will accelerate, right? They'll become more frequent and they'll become more severe because you are
00:19:04.100 obtaining an advantage without any kind of cost. So without that negative feedback to bring the system
00:19:12.200 back to homeostasis to put it back in cooperate, cooperate. If you, if you don't do that, then it
00:19:18.560 will continue to spiral out of control. And so that's, you know, it's not super complicated. Anyone
00:19:24.640 who's ever been in any social situation recognizes this, right? If you let someone cheat at a game
00:19:30.980 once, you know, then if you let a kid cheated a board game and you allow them to cheat whenever they
00:19:36.520 want, they don't end up liking or respecting you. They end up cheating all the time and learning a
00:19:42.060 terrible lesson. If you're on a playground as a kid and one kid, you know, decides to break the
00:19:47.080 rules of the game and, you know, shove someone to the ground. Well, you either shove them to the
00:19:51.920 ground or they're going to continue to do that. Like either they pay a reciprocal cost for their
00:19:55.940 violation of the rules or they're going to get out of control, right? Like everyone knows this
00:20:01.060 inherently. This is, every one of our interactions is like this. So this is just tit for tat at scale,
00:20:06.960 right? So what we've had for a very long time is a system where one side can defect and the other
00:20:14.540 side cannot defect because if they do, their lives will be ruined. So you had one side, you know,
00:20:21.980 you have white America who, if they are racist, their entire lives are destroyed, right? If a white 0.96
00:20:28.480 person is publicly racist, that's going to destroy their lives. It's going to destroy their career. 0.84
00:20:32.820 It's going to destroy everything that they care about. It is literally like the eternal sin that
00:20:38.340 will follow you for the rest of your life. That's how white America is treated when it comes to racist
00:20:43.960 acts. But if black America is racist, there is no cost. In fact, in many cases, there is an advantage. 0.99
00:20:52.420 You can be publicly racist as a black politician. You can insult white America. You can attack white 0.97
00:20:58.820 America. Ilhan Omar literally just, I think yesterday was talking about how white men are 0.87
00:21:03.960 the most dangerous thing in the, in the United States and they have to be controlled by the 0.99
00:21:07.900 government, right? Like, and she's rewarded for that kind of racism. She, she's not going to lose her 0.98
00:21:13.780 seat in Congress. She's not going to lose, uh, her husband, even though, you know, uh, she'd had to
00:21:20.120 divorce her, her brother, of course, but she is married to a white man with, of course she is. 1.00
00:21:24.360 Uh, so, so, uh, you know, that's how black America is, uh, rewarded when they involve themselves in 1.00
00:21:32.300 racism. Uh, guys like, uh, Carmelo Anthony are obviously making half a million dollars off of
00:21:37.940 stabbing someone of the opposite race as where obviously if it was the other direction, uh, you
00:21:44.560 know, Austin Metcalf would have received not a bit of mercy from anyone, probably sadly, including his
00:21:50.580 father. Uh, and so ultimately we recognize this double standard, right? We live in a society with
00:21:56.080 this massive double standard and, uh, without some kind of tit for tat, without some kind of
00:22:02.360 pushback, this is just going to continue. It's just going to accelerate.
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00:22:40.160 And so I think what we saw here, whether you like that Shiloh Hendricks was the focus of this
00:22:46.100 effort or not, was a actual, just complete disgust reaction, right? Like we got to this point where
00:22:52.800 everyone has had to live under this, uh, you know, uh, uh, asymmetry for a very long time and they are
00:23:01.440 just tired of it. And watching Carmelo Anthony profit from the murder of Austin Metcalf, alleged
00:23:08.400 murder of Austin Metcalf, I think broke the straw for a lot of people watching this kid who was given
00:23:14.820 this incredible, um, deference by the father of the boy that he allegedly murdered. And the fact that
00:23:26.140 not only did he, uh, not, he, well, not only was he not touched by that, he actually drove that man
00:23:32.640 out of the press conference where he was going to play himself as the victim and then raised a small
00:23:38.300 fortune off of it. Like that, that's a bridge too far. Like once people are literally becoming,
00:23:44.320 uh, you know, uh, half millionaires by, uh, murdering young white men, like there's, there's not a lot of
00:23:52.680 places to go. You know what I mean? Like that's kind of the last of the line. Uh, and so, uh, people 0.93
00:23:58.580 said, okay, we have to do something. Now, again, was this the best thing to do? Probably not, but that's
00:24:04.200 the form the zeitgeist took because people were fed up. And in a way the, uh, the, the fact that
00:24:11.780 the candidate, uh, chosen for this, uh, kind of charity push, the fact that she was not the perfect
00:24:18.700 person, that she was not vetted for this, that she was not chosen like some kind of Rosa Parks
00:24:24.180 as an exemplar to take this action, um, kind of says something there too, right? That, that people,
00:24:30.780 uh, were willing, they did not care if she was an imperfect representative because they felt a level
00:24:36.960 of frustration so significant that it didn't matter. It was still a message that had to be sent,
00:24:42.620 right? And ultimately I think that's why we saw this massive, uh, push. Now this was on, um,
00:24:51.300 give, send, go, uh, because, you know, many of the other, uh, money raising, uh, fundraising ones,
00:24:57.620 wouldn't let a campaign like this, uh, on their platform. The interesting thing is that while
00:25:02.920 give send go did not remove, uh, Shiloh Hendrix's, uh, donation drive, uh, they did censor the comments
00:25:10.440 in a way that they did not for, uh, Carmelo Anthony. Now, both of the comments were, sections
00:25:16.300 were pretty vile or funny, depending on how, uh, you look at it. But, uh, but, but both of the comment
00:25:21.620 sections were full of really nasty stuff, right? Uh, both, both sides having exactly what you'd expect.
00:25:27.620 A lot of anti-black racism on, uh, Shiloh's and a lot of anti-white racism on, uh, Carmelo's,
00:25:34.700 right? So the, the, the comments were equally, uh, gross. Uh, but the, despite Gibson go, uh, 0.92
00:25:40.980 not censoring in the way of removing, uh, the fundraiser, they did shut down the comments on
00:25:47.220 Shiloh's and I believe, uh, they are still up on Carmelo's. I haven't checked recently, but the last
00:25:52.000 time I checked, they were up on, on his, but not on hers. So again, we can see that even when,
00:25:57.720 uh, something like this happens, uh, even with a company that's very dedicated to kind of leaving
00:26:02.820 these things open, no matter what, like free speech absolutist, uh, we still see, uh, some of
00:26:07.480 these problems, right? All right. So some other things that I think have set, uh, the tenor of
00:26:19.120 this conversation, uh, and, and why we arrived here. Uh, so when I was, uh, a teacher, uh, one of
00:26:26.520 the schools I taught at was a title one, uh, public school, which means, uh, the kids there are very
00:26:31.880 poor, their, their families can't afford, uh, the supplies. And so they get extra money from the
00:26:37.260 government, uh, to, to make sure that those, uh, uh, uh, children still receive what they need to,
00:26:42.880 to go to school and whatnot. And when I was there, uh, there was a, you know, it's a, it was a majority
00:26:48.500 minority school. So most of the students were either Hispanic or black, um, uh, and a large Haitian
00:26:54.740 population in the area. Uh, so there was a high concentration, very, very small percentage of white
00:27:00.660 students at that school. Everybody else would be classified as a minority, even though they're in
00:27:05.640 the majority in that school. And the dynamic in that school, uh, was very bad, uh, when it came to
00:27:12.120 race relations, uh, because, uh, all of the teachers in the school, including, you know, and the principals,
00:27:19.160 everybody involved knew that the school had an eye on it because of its high minority population.
00:27:26.400 Uh, and the fact that it, the discipline was very bad. The test scores were very bad. Um, and so
00:27:32.740 there, there, you have this moment where like, they know the school is not running well,
00:27:36.760 but, um, they, they have to be careful because any changes they might try to do like cracking down on
00:27:43.280 discipline or failing, you know, students who aren't performing well, uh, those will be seen as
00:27:48.480 racist. And they, everybody knows this, right? The, the, the, the administrators literally tell
00:27:53.380 you as you come in, by the way, like we can't suspend these kids because if we get too many
00:27:59.140 suspensions, we jack up the number for the entire district because we have all the minority kids
00:28:04.080 in our school. Right. So we, we can't suspend them even if they deserve it, uh, because it will make
00:28:09.420 us look bad because we're suspending too many, uh, students of color. Uh, we can't fail them because 1.00
00:28:14.440 if they, uh, you know, we fail too many of them, then we're failing all the students of color.
00:28:18.480 And so everyone knows the problems, but they also know that the solutions will be unpopular.
00:28:24.420 And so, uh, you, you kind of know that going in, but it gets much worse than that, that, that just
00:28:29.460 kind of like sets the frame for the school because these students know that they have a certain amount
00:28:36.200 of privilege because of their race. Uh, they go around saying a lot of awful stuff. So I was in
00:28:42.020 several classrooms, uh, in several classrooms where, you know, uh, some of the black students would 0.99
00:28:47.640 openly and loudly talk about how smelly and ugly and disgusting they found white people to be 0.99
00:28:54.800 right. They would say this out loud, uh, without hesitation. And when they were reported for it, 0.99
00:29:00.620 nothing happened. Like just absolutely nothing happened to these kids. They never got in trouble.
00:29:06.140 Right. It was, it was never a problem. Uh, they maybe got a mild talking to, uh, by, by, uh, some kind
00:29:13.680 of administrator. And then they got shipped right back into the classroom. And so, because they were
00:29:18.740 able to do this on a regular basis, uh, they had no fear of talking about, uh, white people in this
00:29:26.320 manner. And this is something that is going to wear on people because of course the white students could 0.99
00:29:32.380 not respond in kind. The white students couldn't say about the black students, what the black students
00:29:37.720 were saying about the white students, because if they did, their lives would be destroyed. Like 0.73
00:29:41.160 obviously they would get in trouble at school, of course, but you know, what if they got caught on a
00:29:46.160 cell, uh, a cell phone video, uh, all of a sudden they would be completely, uh, you know, destroyed.
00:29:51.700 Their lives would be destroyed publicly. Uh, and of course it was the, the power imbalance was so
00:29:57.580 crazy that at one point the black students, uh, took to screaming, uh, white power in the hallway. 0.62
00:30:06.420 One, because they knew it was transgressive and they wouldn't get in trouble for it. And because 0.97
00:30:10.320 the teachers didn't know what to do, right. They didn't know what to do about the fact that these
00:30:15.080 guys were yelling something like that, but also because they could mock the white students with
00:30:19.560 it because they knew the white students couldn't do anything. The white students couldn't say
00:30:23.760 something like that. The white students couldn't speak out, uh, in opposition when the black students 0.72
00:30:28.940 were making fun of their race. Uh, but the black students could literally yell white power and not 0.98
00:30:33.920 get in trouble. And so that was the racial dynamic in this school. You can imagine, uh, that
00:30:40.320 it doesn't take very long before you recognize how untenable this is. And you know, this obviously
00:30:48.000 plays out in much more serious ways in the real world. So we all know that the recent example
00:30:56.160 of Daniel Penny, right? A guy who is trying to protect people on the subway, uh, from a guy
00:31:02.540 who's screaming out loud. Now, once again, this man, uh, who was mentally ill, this black man 0.99
00:31:08.360 who's mentally ill, uh, he, and basically the entire, uh, left and a good chunk of America 0.99
00:31:14.820 expects him to be able to continue to do whatever he wants. He's allowed to scream. He's allowed to 0.98
00:31:20.640 threaten people on the subway. It doesn't matter because he's black and because he's black, no one 0.99
00:31:25.860 can stop him. He has a special ability to say that out loud. And because if someone like Daniel 0.94
00:31:32.460 Penny tries to stop him, then he's going to have his life destroyed, you know, Daniel Penny luckily
00:31:37.980 was found innocent. However, the, uh, you know, the, the approach was to destroy this man, right?
00:31:44.580 The state of New York intended to destroy his life. Uh, you know, the, the white house, uh, hated him.
00:31:50.240 Uh, excuse me, the entire liberal media, uh, was, was out to destroy his life. Uh, so just because
00:31:57.600 he defended, uh, himself and others in a, in a car, when the guy, he was trying to defend himself
00:32:03.460 in a subway car, uh, when the guy who's trying to defend himself was of the wrong color, like his 0.98
00:32:09.900 entire life was going to be destroyed. And that's again, how everyone lives in the United States.
00:32:15.320 This is the racial dynamic that we have fostered. I'm also, I'm also, uh, reminded of when there was, 0.62
00:32:23.160 uh, the young man, uh, or the young kid, uh, Austin, uh, Hennett or no, sorry. I'm, I'm, uh,
00:32:31.060 mixing him up with, uh, Austin Metcalf, uh, Cannon Hennett, uh, Cannon Hennett was like a five-year-old.
00:32:37.060 He was riding around on a bike. Uh, and when this was a few years ago, uh, and at some point, uh,
00:32:44.160 a man shot him in a face, a black man just shot him directly in the face. And when, uh, the police
00:32:50.040 came when he was apprehended, his defense for himself was, well, this kid, this five-year-old
00:32:56.840 called me the N-word, right? Called me the N-word. And so therefore I was justified in blowing him
00:33:03.220 away. Now we have no way to know whether or not, uh, Cannon Hennett called this guy the N-word.
00:33:10.040 Uh, however, the first thing that this boy's mother felt she had to do was run out and tell everybody
00:33:17.980 that her son was not racist. Like that was the most important thing that she could do is run out
00:33:23.580 and tell everyone who would listen that her son did not say the N-word. He was not a racist.
00:33:29.580 It was not about her son being murdered. It was not about the horrible injustice, uh, that was done
00:33:35.580 to her and her son. And to be clear, I don't think you should have ethnic hatred in your heart, but if
00:33:41.380 there is one excuse to have it, it would be when someone murders your child in cold blood, your five-year-old
00:33:47.140 blows them away. And yet her first response was no, no, no, just whatever you do. Don't think that
00:33:54.720 my child was a racist. And you have to expect that a large part of that is ultimately because she
00:33:59.980 doesn't want to be seen as a racist. She has to live on and she doesn't want everyone assuming that 1.00
00:34:05.880 she had this racist kid that got blown away. Not focusing on the fact that the murder is the most
00:34:10.920 horrific thing that nothing a five-year-old can say should get them murdered by somebody without
00:34:17.300 any impulse control. But in our society, that's not the most important thing. The most important thing
00:34:23.380 is, did you commit blasphemy? Did you say the sacred word? Did you say the unspeakable name?
00:34:31.180 That's the most important thing. And when, again, you have a society structured this way,
00:34:37.500 things are going to get bad. Like, things are going to get out of control. You're going to get guys
00:34:42.560 who make $500,000 because they stabbed a white kid. Like, that's going to be the world you live in 0.55
00:34:48.940 when one set of people plays by these rules and everybody else has to play by a different set of
00:34:54.240 rules. You simply cannot allow that. You cannot allow them to defect while you cooperate endlessly.
00:35:01.260 Like, that is a fool's errand. Okay? So, is it surprising that we got to this point? Absolutely 0.76
00:35:09.540 not. Is Shiloh Hendricks the best candidate to put forward for this? Is she the person, ideally,
00:35:17.320 that one would have rallied behind? Is this the act, ultimately, that you wanted to see this happen
00:35:23.020 and the support flow? No, probably not. But guess what? Something was coming down the pipeline.
00:35:29.720 Okay? Like, the stage was set for something like this and you cannot be surprised when it happens.
00:35:35.880 You know, Donald Trump's not the best presidential candidate. He's not the guy I would have chosen
00:35:41.560 to push back against the total state, the system as it is. Some people will argue, oh, he's not doing
00:35:50.280 enough. He's a stooge or whatever. Fine. Whatever. You see my point here. Donald Trump is not the guy
00:35:55.360 you would have probably chosen as, like, the best person to push this ideology forward or the best
00:36:01.720 person to fight this battle against ideology is probably a better way to put it. But ultimately,
00:36:07.240 he is who the zeitgeist chose, right? Like, he was the guy who actually got it done. Not the clean
00:36:13.600 cut guys, not the Mitt Romneys, not the guys who've been playing politics in the party for decades like
00:36:20.560 Ted Cruz. It was Donald Trump who got it done at the end of the day.
00:36:25.360 And sometimes, that's just how life works, right? You don't always get, you don't always go to war
00:36:33.880 with the army you want. You go to war with the army you have. And in this moment, you know,
00:36:40.020 the Battle of Shiloh erupted. And I think we need to understand kind of the last thing here before I go
00:36:47.580 to the questions of the people that ultimately what we're seeing is a big shift. A big shift. I think
00:36:55.840 this is a huge shift in where we've been. Because again, previously, this woman's life would have just 0.98
00:37:01.900 been destroyed. Now, she, you know, again, she's far less defensible than several other women who have 0.94
00:37:08.480 had their lives destroyed in this manner. And so, it, just a few years ago, if this incident had
00:37:14.980 occurred, she would have been completely destroyed publicly. However, what we've seen is that even
00:37:22.960 though you're still not going to have mainstream figures coming out and defending this woman for
00:37:26.640 the most part, you did see that the public was willing to stand up and say, I'm going to make this
00:37:32.360 symbolic act to show that this, that this is not as bad as stabbing a, a, a young man in cold blood.
00:37:41.360 Like, actually, this woman, even if she did something wrong, is more deserving of help than a
00:37:48.380 guy who stabbed a young man at a track meet. And I need to make it clear that that's the case. 0.94
00:37:55.840 And so, in this moment, you, you get this rallying. And it's because people are, are done
00:38:00.240 with this racial blasphemy law. They're done with it. That doesn't mean you should run around
00:38:05.880 throwing, you know, racial slurs at people hatefully. But people are done having this
00:38:10.900 double standard, where if a black student literally stabs another kid, he can get rich. 0.86
00:38:18.140 But if a white person says something that's mildly construed as racist, their lives are destroyed. 0.95
00:38:24.900 Like, this cannot continue. We cannot continue to live like this. You cannot have an entire
00:38:30.200 state religion centered around the holiness of some dependent minority class of a, of a political 0.73
00:38:39.900 party. Like, the Democrats cannot make black people holy in a way that everyone else has
00:38:45.780 to, like, walk around and make sure they never offend them and allow, you know, all kinds of
00:38:51.540 absurd stuff to occur because they've decided that the double standard is the key, right? Like,
00:38:56.280 you cannot live that way. And people are tired of it. People are tired of these blasphemy laws. 1.00
00:39:02.360 It's funny because the very people, again, like I mentioned earlier, a lot of the guys who are the
00:39:09.100 rational centrists, the guys who throw around terms like woke right, they really jumped on this,
00:39:13.480 right? Like, they were very angry that someone like Shiloh Hendricks would receive any kind of
00:39:19.780 support any kind of defense in this scenario. And it's great because these are the very people
00:39:25.920 who get super angry that, like, there are some Christian nationalists out there who say that,
00:39:30.240 like, there's nothing wrong with blasphemy laws and we had them on the books in the United States
00:39:34.600 well after the First Amendment was written. Like, that's actually part of the American tradition.
00:39:38.600 They get very, very, very angry when someone says something like that, even though it's just
00:39:43.420 historically accurate. But they are all for blasphemy laws when it comes to, you know, 0.95
00:39:51.680 race relations. Like, they are 100% behind blasphemy laws. But of course, they are only 0.88
00:39:57.960 behind one side of blasphemy laws. Because check this out, right? I can say white trash on YouTube 1.00
00:40:03.340 right now. And I'm not going to get censored. This video is going to be up tomorrow. It's going to be 1.00
00:40:08.080 monetized. It'll be fine. I could say cracker on this YouTube video. And no one's going to care,
00:40:15.440 right? No one's going to care. The chuds, right? All these racial slurs for white people,
00:40:19.720 you can say them all the time. And no, YouTube's never taking the video down. They're never censoring
00:40:25.840 you. They're never demonetizing you. But I literally cannot say the word she said. Even now,
00:40:33.020 like, even with the platform I have, because if I did, that would destroy everything, right?
00:40:36.940 There's, you know, YouTube would take down the channel. They'd take down the video. They'd
00:40:41.620 censor everything. That is a blasphemy law. If that, that is the very definition of a blasphemy 0.93
00:40:48.360 law. And it's, and not only is it blasphemy, it's blasphemy protecting only one racial group.
00:40:54.640 There's one racial, or I should say, really only one group can't be protected from those blasphemy laws. 0.99
00:40:59.680 And so we have the scenario that is just completely untenable, completely unbalanced,
00:41:08.480 and, and people are done with it. Again, a few years ago, most people still would have gone along
00:41:13.960 with the narrative that, you know, some nurse trying to keep a black man from stealing her 0.94
00:41:18.420 bike is a racist. They would have gone along with the narrative that a woman, uh, getting harassed in a
00:41:24.000 park, uh, you know, she's a huge racist. They would even have gone along with maybe the narrative that 0.99
00:41:30.500 a guy like, uh, Kyle Rittenhouse, right? Is a racist because he tried to defend himself in Black
00:41:36.040 Lives Matter rally. But today they're donating to Shiloh Hendricks. Again, maybe not the most, 0.89
00:41:42.420 most worthy recipient of that support, but you understand how we got here. How we got here is
00:41:49.000 incredibly obvious and just game theory wise, just tactically, it makes perfect sense. Like you
00:41:56.540 can't sit and watch someone defect for, you know, decades and decades worth of games and then not
00:42:03.880 have some kind of cost. Like we've seen what happens. It's accelerating. It's accelerationism
00:42:09.220 at its finest. One side is allowed to go out and literally murder someone and make half a million
00:42:14.640 dollars off it. Like, like some kind of hit man, like a well-paid hit man. And you know,
00:42:21.400 the other side just has to shut up and take it right. Like that, that could not have gone on
00:42:25.380 forever and people put up with it for way too long, way too long, but the time has come to end this,
00:42:31.780 right? It's done. That doesn't mean that I think everyone should go around responding the way that
00:42:36.520 Shiloh Hendricks did. I don't think you should. However, if someone does, we should be able to
00:42:42.580 recognize that that is actually not a criminal act. It's not worse than murder, right? It's it,
00:42:49.600 your, your five-year-old getting murdered is worse than him saying the N word. If he even did that,
00:42:54.440 right? Like we should be able to understand that as a society, we have to get back to a place where
00:42:59.180 we grasp that as a society. And if we don't, if we leave race relations where they are right now,
00:43:04.940 it's only going to get worse. It's only going to get more horrific. So is this the ideal situation?
00:43:10.500 No, absolutely not. But something had to be done and this is what got done. And so I think
00:43:17.560 more and more people are realizing that if you don't address this issue, you don't get to the
00:43:22.000 core of this issue. Then you are going to have a really serious problem. It's only going to get
00:43:26.680 much, much worse. And so that's why we ended up this in this scenario. And I think unless we see
00:43:33.200 significant effort in the culture to change this, we're only going to get more like this because
00:43:38.780 ultimately, like I said, the, the, the moment has shifted, the vibe has shifted as they say.
00:43:44.060 And I don't think people are going to take a Daniel Penny or a Shiloh Hendricks moment the same
00:43:51.100 again. I think you are going to see those pushbacks more and more often. And because there has to be
00:43:57.520 some kind of cost. If there isn't, it's only going to get more out of control. All right, guys,
00:44:02.000 let's go to the questions of the people here real quick.
00:44:07.860 Cripper Weirdo said, why is this happening? 2020, that's why. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know,
00:44:12.500 2020 is, is certainly a huge factor. Again, we literally had, you know, Kamala Harris,
00:44:21.680 you know, bailing criminals out for the race riots. Like we had, we, we had functionally 0.54
00:44:29.080 government sponsored race riots. That's going to put you in a position like this. People are people
00:44:34.880 who are told that they have to be in this tolerant multicultural colorblind society. And then they
00:44:41.400 watch stuff like that happen. They're going to recognize that they have been sold to bill of
00:44:45.180 goods, right? Now, maybe the solution is to bring it more in line with the society as described.
00:44:51.140 I, unfortunately, I don't, I don't see that happening, but you know, a lot of people think that,
00:44:55.640 but the one thing you can't do is stand still. The one thing you can't do is leave things as they are
00:44:59.580 because, uh, you know, people are making half a million dollars for stabbing high school students.
00:45:04.760 Like that's not okay. You have to stop that somehow. This wouldn't be in the way I chose to stop it,
00:45:09.740 but somebody had to stand up and do something. And that's what people decided to do.
00:45:16.600 Uh, philosophical, uh, thirstworm says, tit for tat retaliation is how Latinos save themselves 0.95
00:45:22.200 from the black violence that Asians suffered. You can't reach to taunt without reciprocation. 0.96
00:45:27.300 Yeah. I think, uh, unfortunately that that's a correct assessment, right? When you have a, uh,
00:45:32.300 when you have one community that is willing to do violence to another community, if you are not
00:45:37.520 willing to reciprocate, if you do not have a way to defend yourself or to have the law defend you,
00:45:43.540 uh, and they're allowed to continue, then they will continue to escalate. And in many ways,
00:45:48.580 I think you're right. That's why you do see increased violence, uh, against Asians by black 1.00
00:45:53.300 community. Uh, cause it's just a community that is not prepared to defend itself the same way, 0.87
00:45:57.300 though the rooftop Koreans, you know, they've, they've made their statement.
00:46:04.220 Uh, dash or blank, I guess we'll say here, the left and black behavior, uh, has revived racism. 0.99
00:46:11.020 Uh, yeah. I mean, again, you just can't allow one-sided racism, right? Like again,
00:46:17.940 most black people can, you know, are probably not going to be horribly openly racist, but many of 0.73
00:46:24.380 them can be, and there'll be rewarded for it. Again, you can achieve political power. You can
00:46:29.540 become a celebrated scholar. You can become a celebrated artist in Hollywood, a celebrated rap
00:46:35.460 star because you're really racist, right? Like, and that's just not true on the other side. Like
00:46:41.540 there's not a bunch of white guys making a ton of money, putting out, uh, you know, super racist
00:46:46.760 music or making entire movies about, you know, about how they're going to kill their way through 0.99
00:46:51.840 the black population. Like you see all these black revenge movies, like, uh, uh, like Django Unchanged 0.99
00:46:57.320 and such, like you just don't, you don't see that the other way. Uh, and, uh, you, you, you can't expect
00:47:03.680 one group to do this forever. And then another group not to respond in kind. Eventually the,
00:47:09.640 the hammer does come and, you know, drop Mel Gibson after four beers. That's a, that's a great
00:47:16.420 name. Uh, feels like the start of a lot of winning for us. It's okay to be white, erase white guilt. 0.52
00:47:22.320 Also based sunbather poster back there. Again, I do think that this is a, a vibe shift. I do think
00:47:29.360 that we are, that this means something, uh, you know, something is happening as they say. Uh,
00:47:36.100 and, uh, obviously there's, there's still a lot, um, that could unfold. The problem with
00:47:42.160 tit for tat is of course the tat can get out of control. And that's what all the, the rational
00:47:47.080 centrist run around warning, right? Oh no, here's the right wing backlash. We've been warning about
00:47:50.900 here's the right wing backlash. And it's like, yeah, guys, I get it. But if you had fixed that
00:47:58.320 original behavior, you wouldn't have this problem. There's a backlash for a reason.
00:48:03.720 Um, Tim Miller says this occurred because whites aren't racist enough. Again, uh, I think that the
00:48:11.520 problem here is ultimately, uh, a, basically a religion that has been centered around black
00:48:18.220 identity. Uh, you know, the, the current story about America is we become a more perfect union
00:48:25.660 by like elevating, uh, you know, blacks and other minorities. And so the civil war is about blackness
00:48:32.340 and the, and the, and the civil rights movement. Like these are our finest moments. Uh, you know,
00:48:37.080 this is what the country is about. Uh, and when you create, you know, laws around protecting people
00:48:42.840 from, you know, mean words, I mean, Shiloh Hendricks was investigated by the state of Minnesota.
00:48:48.060 She didn't hit anybody. She didn't throw anything. She was stolen from, right? She's the, she is
00:48:55.640 ultimately the victim of a crime though. Ultimately it's a five-year-old. So, you know, five-year-olds
00:48:59.960 do things when you're not supposed to do. It's, it's not quite as serious, obviously, but still
00:49:04.700 like the fact is that she committed no crime and yet she's being investigated for a crime by the state
00:49:12.340 of Minnesota, by the way, reminder, pedophile filming the video at a children's park.
00:49:18.060 But what we're talking about is this woman said mean words. Now, should she have said those words? 1.00
00:49:23.160 Yeah, probably not. But you know what? That's not a crime. Like, what are we doing here? Right?
00:49:27.900 This is absolutely insane. Um, let's see here. Uh, Bomin, uh, Igloo says, uh, the word will continue 1.00
00:49:37.280 until morale improves. Philosophical Thirstworm again says, uh, I can't even tell you a great story
00:49:44.760 because the YouTube block on anything mentioning astronauts and scholars is too restrictive.
00:49:51.400 Uh, let's see. Uh, Jacob says, you are the rizziest of the crackers, Oren. Uh, thanks, I guess.
00:49:58.760 Sorry, I don't, I don't know those, that particular lingo. Uh, Hans, uh, Juker says, get to the gym.
00:50:05.800 Jim, get a gun. Always, uh, generally good advice in pretty much any situation.
00:50:09.920 Uh, Jacob Zendel says, uh, many of the comments here are wild. Uh, Oren, uh, how do you keep,
00:50:17.440 uh, message discipline so well while maintaining a frame of truth? Uh, you know, uh, thanks for saying
00:50:22.800 that. And I, I just try to do my best, you know, that these are difficult topics. Uh, it's very easy
00:50:28.200 for people to get, um, very passionate and maybe say things that are, uh, not koof. Obviously that's
00:50:36.220 kind of what happened with Shiloh here, but at the same time, there are real problems, right? Like she
00:50:40.320 shouldn't have been stolen from, she should have been harassed. Um, and ultimately a lot of people
00:50:47.060 see this scenario as indicative of other scenarios they've had in their own life. Pretty much everyone's
00:50:52.620 had an experience where they had to endure inappropriate behavior from a minority because
00:50:57.880 ultimately they knew that asking that person to stop was going to get them in serious trouble.
00:51:03.680 Like what if it goes on, you know, what, what if they ask that person to stop, even if they do it
00:51:07.460 in a very reasonable way and it's construed as racist and they get destroyed online. Literally
00:51:11.760 a pregnant nurse had her life wrecked because a black man stole the bike from her. Like provably 1.00
00:51:18.200 he was in the wrong, he was committing a theft. And yet she had her life destroyed because of that.
00:51:24.220 When you have that dynamic again, you just can't stand. Like, I don't care how reasonable or how
00:51:29.180 respectable you're trying to be. If you're so reasonable and respectable that you're willing
00:51:33.220 to basically get killed, like you're just a cuck, right? Like that's, that's, that's what's 0.99
00:51:38.280 happening. It's like, you're, you're just a doormat and you, and you're going to get destroyed 0.95
00:51:42.180 and you deserve to be destroyed. So we have to find a way to talk about this problem 0.99
00:51:46.460 in a reasonable manner. Uh, but we have to talk about it. Like you have to talk about it.
00:51:52.420 We can't ignore this anymore because if you do ignore it, more stuff like this will happen,
00:51:57.280 right? The whole reason we are here now is we ignore this for too long. The whole reason we're
00:52:01.620 here now is we didn't talk about this because it was too dangerous. It was too, it was too scary.
00:52:06.480 The, you know, the, the social stigma was too high. We can't do that anymore. People are literally
00:52:10.640 getting killed and the murderers are making money off of it. You can't do that. You can't allow it.
00:52:16.200 There's just, it's not an option. Uh, Templar says at the heart is whether we are seeking
00:52:22.620 to support our worst, uh, when the left always does, uh, at the heart, whether we are seeking
00:52:29.280 to support our worst when the left always does. Okay. So I guess you're saying the left always
00:52:33.000 supports their worst, right? Like they always support George Floyd's guys who are obviously
00:52:37.180 garbage. Uh, like this, uh, you know, this gang member wife beater who got deported to El Salvador 0.99
00:52:42.500 because he's El Salvadoran like they're, they're trying to defend him. You're right. That ultimately
00:52:47.060 the left always defends their worst. And I don't want to say that I always want the right to defend
00:52:51.520 their worst. That's not the way that I would frame it. Uh, but I would say that I want the right to
00:52:56.320 have, um, own awareness of the dynamic involved, right? I don't know if you still, you, uh,
00:53:04.800 immediately support the worst of the people who might be on your side. Um, in fact, I,
00:53:09.340 I've got a feeling that ultimately Shiloh Hendricks might not be on your side, right? Like I'm just
00:53:13.580 guessing, but given the sleeve tattoos and everything else, I don't, I don't know. I don't
00:53:18.580 know if Shiloh Hendricks has been a Trump supporter her whole life, but we do have to think about
00:53:24.840 how we're responding. And so when you see someone like her getting supported, you know, the, the,
00:53:31.340 the thing you definitely don't go do is run out and be like, oh, this is just the right being as bad
00:53:36.100 as the left. It's not actually. And this, uh, this backlash was entirely predictable and you
00:53:41.860 should have seen it coming. And if you were willing to say more dangerous, but true things
00:53:46.240 earlier on, you wouldn't ended up in the scenario in the first place. Uh, let's see. No guard says
00:53:53.400 Christian forgiveness is how you move from tit for tat to mutual cooperation. It requires that,
00:53:59.560 uh, you go first, uh, you go for tit for tat. Well, you know, Christian forgiveness is that you,
00:54:06.620 you know, that the, the person has to seek forgiveness, right? That, that, and again, I did
00:54:10.600 the entire episode on that previously, so I'm not going to do a whole spiel on it, but basically the
00:54:17.320 problem with Austin Metcalf's father and, and the way that he did forgiveness is he ignored that he,
00:54:24.020 that, that, that, uh, Carmel Anthony had not asked for forgiveness, uh, which is critical to the
00:54:31.080 process of restoration. Uh, and, and obviously, uh, when you then see him turn around and throw the
00:54:39.120 father out of, uh, you know, the, the, the, uh, the press conference he was doing to raise money and,
00:54:46.240 and make himself a victim. It just becomes very clear that your tit for tat has fallen apart,
00:54:50.540 right? You, you will not be moving people back to mutual cooperation, uh, in this manner. People
00:54:55.200 saw that it just didn't work. And I think that's, again, why you saw the response we saw this time.
00:55:01.760 Uh, Enrico Palazzo says in multiracial societies, you don't vote in accordance with your economic
00:55:09.260 interests or your social interests. You vote in accordance to race and religion. Yes. That was,
00:55:13.420 of course, said by Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore, uh, famously, um, you know, that it's a example of a
00:55:19.680 multiracial society that does work, uh, but, uh, it works because it's, uh, authoritarian, right? 0.97
00:55:26.420 That, that's how Singapore makes that, uh, dynamic work. And that's why Lee Kuan Yew was talking about
00:55:31.900 that aspect of democracy, because ultimately, uh, the way to make that multiracial society work for 0.93
00:55:37.360 Singapore is to, you know, cane anybody who spits gum on the sidewalk and kill anybody who smokes 0.98
00:55:43.100 marijuana. Um, it's harsh, but it does work. Um, Tim Miller says, why is it assumed that Shiloh is 0.98
00:55:52.300 white trash? Uh, you know, I would guess it's mainly the tattoos, uh, and kind of the way that 1.00
00:55:59.100 the response was given. Um, let's just say, uh, you know, you can be classy and racist, I guess.
00:56:05.760 Like there, there are obviously rich people who, uh, who can display racism, but they usually do it
00:56:11.140 in a, uh, uh, you know, more of a, uh, elegant backhanded manner, uh, as where Shiloh was very
00:56:16.660 upfront. Uh, so I think that's probably where the assumption comes from. But again, the fact that we
00:56:21.000 can even use the word white trash when she can't use the word she is kind of wraps the whole thing 1.00
00:56:26.220 up in a nutshell, right? Uh, let's see. Uh, Michael Robertson says, lots of people are very emotional at 0.97
00:56:33.520 the moment. In these times, it's important to take a step back and remember who is truly oppressed
00:56:37.280 gamers. Yes, that's very true. She did use what is called the gamer word. And so she is an honorary
00:56:42.680 gamer. I suppose, uh, her Xbox live game would have been very impressive. Let's see here.
00:56:51.560 Uh, Michael Robertson says, Oh, sorry. I already got that one. Uh, what says, why does a foreigner feel 1.00
00:56:57.820 comfortable harassing an American woman even outside of the race angle? Yes. Again, very important.
00:57:03.520 Uh, you know, it's, it's amazing how much of the story is a problem and has nothing to do with
00:57:10.580 Shiloh Hendrix. Uh, obviously problem there as well, but, uh, but so much of this story from the fact
00:57:16.500 that, yeah, a foreigner felt like he was entitled to, uh, intimidate, uh, this, uh, woman who's an American 0.89
00:57:24.000 citizen. Uh, the fact that the guy was allegedly a pedophile at this park, uh, there, there's a lot
00:57:30.100 wrong with a story that is just not being touched on, uh, because everyone's more worried about the
00:57:34.800 blasphemy, right? Everyone's more worried about the sacred word being spoken. And ultimately, I think
00:57:40.140 that's what's happening here. Uh, uh, there's a, uh, an account on, uh, on Twitter called dissident
00:57:46.320 soaps. Uh, he sells, uh, some pretty good soap. Uh, but, uh, on top of that, he made this point,
00:57:51.140 which I think was pretty interesting. Sorry. Goodness. Um, but he made this point that I think
00:57:59.060 is very important. Ultimately that this is the left's ultimate shibboleth. Like this is their
00:58:04.580 ultimate rallying cry. And so another reason that I think a lot of people pushed on this so hard
00:58:09.500 is because this is in this moment of kind of conservatives having momentum and the, and the,
00:58:14.680 uh, left being in retreat retreat. They're also testing whether this particular most sacred of
00:58:20.680 taboos enforced by the left is still valid. Right. And I think that's a big part of the dynamic that
00:58:26.340 was playing out here. Uh, we have a friend Lee who says, uh, accurate as usual, Oren, I've been
00:58:33.460 making these exact arguments on X to me. It's pulling the obvious why this happened. It's hard
00:58:38.240 for me to understand how so many people are just aren't getting this right. And, and again, you don't
00:58:43.240 have to support her exact behavior here to understand why this occurred and why she ended up getting, 0.94
00:58:50.140 uh, the donations that she got. And if you're interested in not having more of these incidents,
00:58:56.540 then you need to be more honest about the racial dynamics involved, not less. Right. If you want
00:59:02.920 to see, if you, if you don't want to see warring factions, raising money, uh, for bad behavior in an
00:59:09.720 attempt to like basically have, uh, it's basically financial gang violence, right? Like it's, it's like
00:59:14.760 the greens and the blues in the, in the hippodrome and, in, in, uh, you know, uh, in, uh, ancient
00:59:20.240 Byzantium, like they, they are fighting each other, uh, for control of this, uh, thing, right? Like 0.60
00:59:26.360 this is a show of strength. This is a marshaling of the forces in a digital sense. And the reason
00:59:31.680 you're seeing this again is because the racial dynamic at play is so obviously tilted one direction
00:59:36.560 that people feel compelled, uh, to get involved in, uh, something that they probably ultimately
00:59:41.520 wouldn't do themselves most of the time. And so I think if you want to see any of this actually
00:59:47.460 get addressed, uh, you need to be able to talk about this dynamic and the, the rational centrist
00:59:51.600 running around and saying, Oh, well, this is just the same thing. It's the same thing as Carmelo,
00:59:56.060 uh, Anthony getting money for stabbing Austin Metcalf. No, it's not. It's, it's actually not even close,
01:00:01.480 which doesn't mean it's great, but it's not the same thing. And when you pretend it's the same thing
01:00:06.060 and you don't underlie, you don't address the underlying problem. Uh, like the fact that, uh,
01:00:10.860 Ilhan Omar can get on television and talk about how terrible white men are and have zero, uh,
01:00:17.640 problem, have zero, uh, pay zero price, uh, with her career, her public position, anything like that, 1.00
01:00:23.780 unless you're willing to address that problem, then don't talk to me about this problem.
01:00:28.140 Like, unless you are very seriously working to fix that problem, don't, don't tell me this is a
01:00:34.540 problem because you didn't care. Like you don't care. Uh, you, you, you only want to keep the
01:00:40.540 status quo. And that is the real problem. Cause if you keep the status quo, things are only going
01:00:44.640 to get worse. It's only going to get more destructive. And we simply cannot, we cannot
01:00:47.860 survive this way. We cannot survive this way as a country. We cannot survive this way as a people.
01:00:51.940 It's just, it's just not an option. All right, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.
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