The Auron MacIntyre Show - Greg Bovino Reveals the TRUTH About Mass Deportations ｜ Guest： Greg Bovino ｜ 6⧸5⧸2026

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00:01:00.000 Well, everybody, as you know, deportations was one of the critical reasons why I have supported Donald Trump through all of these years.

00:01:08.040 It's absolutely critical to the future of our nation. Pretty much the only issue that matters, everything else, is downstream from immigration. 0.95

00:01:15.660 And one man who has been central to this fight is the former commander of the Border Patrol, Greg Bovino. Thank you so much for coming on.

00:01:23.080 Well, thanks for having me today. It's good to see you.

00:01:25.140 Absolutely. Before we get started, I think a lot of people hear about immigration, border patrol, ICE, all of these things, but they don't know how the immigration system really works.

00:01:37.120 So I was wondering for the audience if you could just give a basic rundown of what are the agencies involved in border enforcement and deportation?

00:01:45.040 What main roles do they play?

00:01:46.540 Sure. As far as immigration and deportations, that falls under Department of Homeland Security, DHS. And you have several agencies there that work together, that integrate to work together to do just what you're saying, to deport and run that immigration system.

00:02:04.280 So when we talk about the law enforcement arm of those deportations, two major camps, one is CBP, that stands for Customs and Border Protection.

00:02:15.220 Those are your uniformed law enforcement agencies, such as the United States Border Patrol, Office of Field Operations, those are the folks that work at your ports of entry, they wear blue uniforms.

00:02:25.720 And then the Office of Air and Marine. Those are the folks that patrol the waterways and the skies. And those three agencies work together under the CBP umbrella to do everything from, like I said, ports of entry to the U.S. Border Patrol, which is everything between the ports of entry, including traffic checkpoints and a whole host of other things.

00:02:48.720 Then we have what is known as ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. A couple of agencies

00:02:56.660 there that we need to talk about. One is HSI, that stands for Homeland Security Investigations.

00:03:02.540 Those are your plainclothes special agents that conduct long-term investigations,

00:03:07.160 long-term investigations for things like, say, human trafficking or human smuggling,

00:03:13.400 that type of thing. So long-term investigations, they're a plainclothes agency. And then also we

00:03:20.760 have something called ERO, Enforcement and Removal Operations, also plainclothes. And those are the

00:03:27.580 folks that detain, transport, and deport, physically deport, whether it's a repatriation by land or

00:03:36.120 something by plane. You may have heard of the planes that deport illegal aliens. Those are the

00:03:42.380 folks that do that. So you've got your uniform branch, Border Patrol, OFO, Air Marine, and then

00:03:48.820 the non-uniform branch, the long-term investigators, which is ICE and ERO. Excellent. I appreciate you

00:03:56.700 laying that out because I think it can be quickly very confusing to understand who's doing what,

00:04:01.180 what organization actually has jurisdiction or the different roles that they're playing,

00:04:05.580 and that can make it very hard to track progress and understand how we're doing on this front.

00:04:10.200 Oh, guys, I should also say this is not a live show today. We are prerecorded. So unfortunately, we will not be able to answer questions from the audience today. But that said, when we saw this transition between the first and second Trump administration, it was rather radical.

00:04:26.420 We saw in the first Trump administration the promise of building the wall and closing the

00:04:30.600 border. And of course, we all cheered that on. We appreciated that push. Some work was done,

00:04:36.500 not enough. In the second Trump administration, the tone shifted. It wasn't just about closing

00:04:41.980 the border anymore. Now we were talking about something far more important, which was deportations.

00:04:47.920 It wasn't just about ending the flow of immigration, which had been absolutely blown

00:04:52.380 out by the Biden administration, just a complete treason against the country. And when you guys

00:04:57.620 came back in, it was very clear that the purpose was not just to shut that flow off, but to make

00:05:03.380 sure that we healed the damage from that and all the prior administrations that had really just

00:05:08.500 abused the border and treated it as this kind of just open secret, where as long as you came through

00:05:13.400 and you didn't cause any trouble, you didn't start stabbing people or something, then you were

00:05:17.360 allowed to stay. But now we were saying it's not just about the crime of physically hurting

00:05:23.360 someone. Entering into the country is itself a crime and something that should be punishable, 0.72

00:05:27.480 something that we should reverse. So I guess the question is, when you entered with that mindset,

00:05:33.940 what was the strategy? What was the Trump administration specifically looking at? It's

00:05:38.220 one thing to say, we're going to deport people. It's another thing to say, there are tens of

00:05:42.420 millions, if not 100 million of these people in the country. That's a logistical question. That's

00:05:47.680 a question of courts. There is so much going on there. What was the general strategy, the approach

00:05:52.840 that you were looking at going in? Sure. President Trump learned a lot from his first

00:05:58.900 tournament office. He learned a lot, and he put what he learned into play during his second

00:06:04.420 tournament office. One thing about Trump is he's always learning, and he's always looking to do

00:06:09.180 things better. This was the do things better part of that strategy. So he built the wall during the

00:06:15.480 first term, did a great job, really shut some flows off, showed that it could be done. But he also

00:06:20.660 learned that just building a wall, that in itself does not preclude, you know, immigration from

00:06:28.660 happening. You need to cut the reason that individuals want to illegally enter the United

00:06:34.940 States. In other words, the jobs, the freedom to move freely within the United States, that type

00:06:41.340 of thing. So during his second administration, the wall building continues, it continues now,

00:06:46.300 and that border security mission continues now. But then also, it was that interior enforcement,

00:06:53.080 those deportations of those individuals that you just said, have been here, not only from

00:06:58.640 the Biden administration, but from those past administrations also. So in doing so, in doing

00:07:04.880 those deportations from the interior, that actually, and President Trump knows this, kudos to

00:07:10.840 him, that actually helped shut the border down even more. So we went from, say, several hundred

00:07:17.980 border, illegal border crossers a day coming across the border. When we hit Los Angeles,

00:07:22.880 that went to below 100 a day because not only did they have to contend with getting across the

00:07:29.140 border, getting across that beautiful 30-foot wall, and it is a beautiful piece of equipment

00:07:33.600 there, not only the 30-foot wall, but then they were faced with those uniform border patrol agents

00:07:40.240 in God knows what city that were ready to apprehend them. So that double whammy, that total

00:07:46.880 spectrum. Immigration enforcement, that did a lot. And that, my friends, is why the border is

00:07:54.280 the best that it's ever been. And that is why he took those great steps in, or those great strides

00:08:04.040 in immigration enforcement. And I think that's really important to highlight because a lot of

00:08:09.700 people just look at the reduced border entry numbers and they think, well, physically people

00:08:13.740 are watching the border closer, which is, of course, true. But as you say, it's that pressure

00:08:18.220 of knowing once, even if you sacrifice everything, you've paid some coyote to get you across the

00:08:23.480 border, you've endured whatever abuse that those human traffickers are doing, you get here and

00:08:30.520 then you find out, actually, you're going to get run out of the country, you're going to get picked

00:08:34.880 up, there's not going to be a job for you, there's not going to be welfare for you sitting there on

00:08:38.420 the other side. That is a great thing to push people away from even attempting to cross in the 0.99

00:08:43.380 first place. So you have to have the pressure internally and externally in order to be

00:08:47.580 successful. Absolutely. And a lot of folks, they've often asked, why did you put so many

00:08:54.120 videos out on your social media platforms back when you were the commander at large and chief

00:08:59.260 of the board control sector there? Well, there's a reason for that. It's just what you say.

00:09:04.140 They need to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we're coming after them. And then when they

00:09:08.960 actually see it. And folks saw that worldwide, which is very important because remember, it's a

00:09:13.640 worldwide immigration problem now, not just from Mexico, but worldwide. They begin seeing that and

00:09:19.340 they're like, whoa, something is different now. They're really serious about this. We can actually

00:09:24.820 see border patrol agents in America's largest cities going hands on with illegal aliens. Yeah,

00:09:31.560 it's serious. We better not cross the border. And even more importantly, that help with those

00:09:37.280 self-repatriation, those self-deportation efforts that are so essential in removing those tens of

00:09:44.300 millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. You know, I'd rather them self-remove 1.00

00:09:49.620 themselves than me have to put handcuffs on them. And 2.6 million decided to leave. And that's

00:09:57.440 exactly where we wanted to be. And that is one of the reasons why we were so transparent

00:10:03.080 with the American public with those videos, and they got a firsthand look, unfiltered and

00:10:10.980 unadulterated, firsthand look at what was going on in those cities. Yeah, again, I think that's

00:10:17.820 critical because you can't physically remove 50 million, 75 million people. It's just logistically

00:10:25.580 not going to happen. But when you're applying the level of pressure, they're seeing those

00:10:29.320 deportations take place they recognize there isn't a lot of opportunity eventually people are going

00:10:34.400 to go home and that's where you're going to get the majority you still need to do the physical

00:10:38.740 deportations you can't inspire the self-deportations without the physical deportations but these are

00:10:43.760 strategies that are working in tandem they're reliant on each other which actually brings me

00:10:48.340 to my next question because as you said you were not shy about sharing what was going on

00:10:53.800 communicating not just to the american people but the entire world don't you know we're not putting

00:10:58.880 up with this. Don't come here. Don't think you're going to enter into these borders illegally and be

00:11:03.460 okay with this. But I think this is also where we see some of the hiccups with the administration,

00:11:10.100 some of the tension that has occurred around the immigration issue. Because many of Donald Trump's

00:11:17.300 kind of more moderate, independent supporters, people who are like Joe Rogan or other podcast

00:11:25.300 bros, they started to see these deportations. And for some reason in their mind, even though

00:11:30.060 the offer was always in the second term, we are deporting everybody who shouldn't be here.

00:11:36.180 In their mind, they said, oh, well, they're only going to go after drug dealers and child

00:11:40.680 traffickers and these kind of things. They're not going to deport my gardener. They're not

00:11:45.920 going to deport my nanny. They're not going to deport my house cleaner. This is all going to

00:11:50.500 be the same, even though that was never the promise. And once they saw the deportations

00:11:54.880 take place, they saw that, yes, you guys were focusing on criminals first, but it was not only

00:11:59.760 criminals being deported. And we started to see this backlash. So is there a difficulty in properly

00:12:06.180 providing the optics you're talking about where you need to send the message both to the American

00:12:10.500 people and the world, this is how we handle deportations, but also you start running into

00:12:15.020 the pushback that comes from some of these more weak-kneed Trump supporters? Sure. It's very

00:12:21.840 interesting that you say that because the very first general immigration enforcement apprehension

00:12:26.660 that we made was in Bakersfield, California. That was Operation Return to Cinder. It was in front

00:12:32.340 of a Home Depot. That individual was a convicted child rapist. Very first one, the very first one 1.00

00:12:39.220 that we apprehended was a child rapist standing out in front of Home Depot ready to go into maybe

00:12:44.860 Joe Rogan's house, I don't know, to do some work. And what we saw and what we attempted to portray

00:12:51.200 in those videos in the in the in those social media platforms was hey these folks that are out

00:12:57.700 on the street such a large majority of them are indeed criminals people that you don't want in 1.00

00:13:04.600 society in your homes anywhere near your children or anything else that the general immigration 0.97

00:13:10.580 enforcement in other words going out on the street putting hands on makes sense uh one of

00:13:16.820 the days in Charlotte, 66% of every single illegal alien that we caught out on the street,

00:13:22.880 not targeted enforcement, but out on the street, 66% had significant immigration and or criminal

00:13:29.700 histories. So when we look at it in those terms, it makes sense to go after that gardener or that

00:13:37.080 landscaper. You don't know who that gardener or that landscaper is. And, you know, I think that

00:13:41.700 some of the leftist crazy media, they didn't want to hear that because that is a very inconvenient,

00:13:49.480 that's a very inconvenient statistic to push in their face. But unfortunately, it's a true

00:13:56.820 statistic coupled with the fact we don't even know what their criminal histories are in their home

00:14:01.520 countries. Oftentimes, we'll find long after the fact, long after they've already entered the United

00:14:06.920 States that a lot of these illegal aliens have significant criminal histories in their home

00:14:11.880 countries. We just now are getting the, the, the Interpol red notices and some of the wants and

00:14:18.140 warrants from those foreign countries. My gracious, you should see what is walking around out on the

00:14:24.260 street right now. So the Joe Rogans and the, and the other folks that are a little concerned about

00:14:29.420 the optics there, what are the optics of another Jacqueline Nungere or another optic of say that

00:14:35.300 young man there in Great Britain that was killed by an immigrant or any of the other thousands of 0.56

00:14:41.420 Americans hurt, maimed, raped, killed by illegal aliens. And then also one other point that seems

00:14:49.580 to be lost is illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. It never has been. What about

00:14:55.580 the ma and pa Americas out there, the business owners or the folks trying to go to the emergency

00:15:01.360 room and you're really affected in every sector of society by illegal aliens. And I think that 0.86

00:15:09.880 when you put it into those terms and people start to think, well, you know what, gosh,

00:15:14.860 American businesses are being affected in all sectors, all parts by illegal aliens. Gosh,

00:15:21.140 I can't even go to the hospital without being in line behind an illegal alien. My schools, 1.00

00:15:25.980 My children, the public schools are not doing such a great job because the lowest common denominator that doesn't speak English is ahead of my kid in school for the limited resources that that teacher may provide. 0.90

00:15:39.140 So when you put all that together, I think that it paints a pretty convincing picture of why we need large scale total immigration enforcement. 0.81

00:15:50.020 And that's what we're after here is total immigration enforcement.

00:15:52.620 That means everything all at the same time, whether it's going after a remittance.

00:15:57.820 President Trump did a great job.

00:15:59.200 I know he's after some of the bank accounts and things like that, but it's everything.

00:16:03.700 It's not just one tactic.

00:16:05.460 We want everything.

00:16:07.020 And when you go after everything, they really see that it's serious.

00:16:10.400 And then those self-deportations, they take off.

00:16:14.420 Yeah, one of the things that set my opinion in stone on this was I was a high school teacher

00:16:19.100 in South Florida.

00:16:20.620 And the fact that, you know, over half my school didn't speak English meant that many times many of these the native English speaking students were literally given lower grades just because of the color of their skin or the fact that they had not immigrated.

00:16:34.920 They gave free passes to the multilingual students because they just couldn't teach them.

00:16:39.260 They didn't have the resources to provide the education.

00:16:41.440 And then not only did the other students fall behind, but they were graded against actual standards.

00:16:46.260 So they were receiving lower grades simply because they could speak the language.

00:16:49.800 And then there was some expectation that they would learn as with the other kids were just passed through.

00:16:53.680 They didn't assimilate. They didn't learn the language. They got a grade and they just moved on.

00:16:57.760 And that's a terrible way to treat the native population.

00:17:01.380 It is. I call that the DSP. I mentioned that Minneapolis at a couple of those press conferences, the DSP, the double standard phenomenon.

00:17:09.300 Just about everything we do in society with in terms of illegal aliens has to do with the DSP, that double standard phenomenon,

00:17:16.980 whether it's what you're saying, the grades in school, some of those illegal aliens that are

00:17:21.840 passed along, how are they going to be rated against American students that are held to that

00:17:28.580 high standard for entrance into college? You know, I think there's a great question that a lot of

00:17:33.180 people, when you put it in those terms, like, well, wow, you know, I, my kid works hard and 0.99

00:17:38.020 he's being precluded from a college education by an illegal alien that's been passed along, 0.91

00:17:43.660 passed along, failed throughout that system, through the education system. So yeah, and then 0.96

00:17:49.940 also with crime, look at crime. A lot of illegal aliens are not treated the same as American

00:17:57.000 citizens. And you're getting the first scoop on this one. I've always said this, and I don't think 0.66

00:18:02.000 they're treated the same as American citizens. Look at, say, crimes against our natural resources.

00:18:07.720 Oftentimes, take a game warden or a conservation officer, a park ranger, they don't even know who

00:18:13.060 these illegal aliens are, and often these illegal aliens are given a pass. But say an American 0.63

00:18:18.800 citizen does the same thing, held to the fullest standard of the law, which they should be, of 0.99

00:18:23.620 course, but the illegal aliens need to be also. Look at the millions that came across the border 0.90

00:18:29.140 and trashed our southern border, came into the United States, continue to trash our natural 1.00

00:18:34.920 resources. Remember, our natural resources are a national interest, something that we hold

00:18:39.880 extremely, extremely, extremely dear. And the DSP is in full effect in all aspects of our society.

00:18:48.700 Yeah, I was actually a local reporter here as well. And one of the most common stories I'd run

00:18:53.060 into were basically animal sacrifice remains. You had different Santeria and voodoo rituals who were

00:18:59.460 being done in the area, but the police wouldn't investigate them because they all know where it

00:19:03.160 would lead back to and they didn't want to deal with the backlash. So you just have people turning

00:19:07.120 a black eye to animal mutilations or sacrifices remains left in culverts and you know all around

00:19:12.820 town these are the small things that don't seem like by themselves absolutely devastating but 0.60

00:19:18.400 they all add up when you're bringing in tens of millions of these people into the country and as

00:19:23.580 you say oftentimes we get these false stories about you know from like the cato institute saying 0.96

00:19:28.840 illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than natural americans and so every one of them is 0.72

00:19:33.340 just coming over here for a peaceful life to make money and every one of them is going to be a model

00:19:37.620 citizen. The perception of people is entirely warped around a few nice immigrants they know,

00:19:43.040 but they don't understand the statistical reality of the impact of this phenomenon.

00:19:48.700 Perfectly stated. Yes. Let's address that statement where a lot of these individuals

00:19:54.840 love to say illegal aliens commit crimes at a lesser rate than American citizens. Pure bunk,

00:20:02.040 pure BS. I'm tired of hearing that. You as well as me know that illegal aliens are not identified

00:20:09.680 as illegal aliens by state and locals for the large majority of crimes that are committed.

00:20:16.620 How do they know that? Because they can't even determine alienage on illegal aliens. In many of

00:20:21.900 these states, it's against the law for them to do that. So I'm led to believe that illegal aliens 1.00

00:20:27.400 commit crimes at a lesser rate than U.S. citizens, yet they can't be identified as illegal aliens

00:20:34.620 there in those states where those crime statistics are reported. It's a bunch of BS.

00:20:40.200 Don't listen to it. It's not true. Plus, we also have to remember all illegal aliens

00:20:44.400 have committed a crime when they cross that border, AUSC 1325 at a minimum, 0.95

00:20:49.880 and they're all criminals. So the Trump administration comes in. You guys are hard

00:20:55.880 charging we're seeing this you know dual tactic of shoring up the border but interior enforcement

00:21:01.540 making sure that we slow down traffic coming in lots of footage of these operations in urban areas

00:21:08.420 extracting illegals and then a mood shifts we start to see uh you know the incident where

00:21:15.620 one woman tried to run down uh you know this border patrol agent i will never hear a single

00:21:20.320 person tell me anything other than this the fact that people debate about this stuff is insane

00:21:24.100 And again, I covered crime like the number of police officers whose funerals I attended because they did not take action in a dangerous situation because they were worried about the optics is huge.

00:21:33.480 So I have little to no, you know, patience for people telling me this kind of thing.

00:21:38.480 However, as is so often the case, the media was ready and rearing to fight back against law enforcement.

00:21:45.040 I think really the left was completely knocked back on their heels after Trump's election.

00:21:50.780 They didn't know what to do. They didn't know how to respond.

00:21:53.140 And this was the first time they felt like they had some kind of ability, I think, to grapple back.

00:21:58.980 They started doing these protests. They started interfering directly with ICE operations.

00:22:03.100 And even though it was still a very unpopular thing for them to do, it was kind of the first time that the left coalesced around some kind of opposition strategy to what Trump was doing.

00:22:12.900 Obviously, this seemed to have a very big impact on the Trump administration's public approach to deportations.

00:22:19.460 Can you talk a little bit about the aftermath of kind of looking at what happened there?

00:22:24.420 I think those events there in Minneapolis, the Rene Good and the Alex Pretty situations, certainly did have an impact.

00:22:31.880 And it's unfortunate that it did because a lot of that washes away the good work that was done prior to that.

00:22:39.240 Take a look at the several months in all those operations in all those other cities, whether it was Bakersfield, Los Angeles, Chicago, Charlotte, New Orleans, and the fact that those cities, those operations were conducted with very, very few casualties on the side of law enforcement or civilians.

00:23:03.860 And that took a whole lot of good work by law enforcement. If you had asked me before those operations ever started, hey, do you think you'll go 10 months with zero casualties? I would have said no. Absolutely not in something that large scale with that much violence perpetrated against law enforcement every single day for all 10 months.

00:23:30.220 Every single day, massive amounts of violence that I don't think any law enforcement since Prohibition, since the Volstead Act, has witnessed.

00:23:39.700 And all the way up until Minnesota, nothing.

00:23:43.720 A pretty darn good track record there for law enforcement.

00:23:46.960 I think that's lost.

00:23:47.920 And then we get to Minnesota.

00:23:49.660 A couple of incidents happened.

00:23:51.620 And, yes, the left was waiting on something to happen.

00:23:54.340 But in retrospect, and time always gives us that seed of retrospect, I think that there were also some bureaucrats and some politicians waiting for something like that to happen to dial back on that total spectrum, immigration enforcement, because I think a lot of them realized that what they saw in all those cities, that was just the beginning.

00:24:19.380 Oh, we had a lot more in store rather than 300 Border Patrol agents going city to city, a lot more in store as far as future operations. 0.82

00:24:30.040 And I think that made a lot of them nervous, whether they were the Chamber of Commerce crowd or the big labor crowd that loved the cheap, or I'm sorry, the cheap labor crowd that loved that cheap labor that illegal aliens present to some aspects of society. 0.85

00:24:45.540 And I think that a lot of them said, hey, you know what, it's a great way to stop it. Let's stop it now. 0.94

00:24:53.260 So I guess what we've seen from the Trump administration after this has been a shift in tone and approach.

00:25:03.440 And I think this has happened across a couple different fronts.

00:25:06.300 So the first thing we started to notice was Tom Homan changed his rhetoric from we're deporting illegal aliens to we're deporting the criminal aliens, which seemed like a very deliberate shift in rhetoric and a narrowing of the scope in a way that would fulfill the optics that maybe some of the more moderate people who were supporting Trump wanted.

00:25:30.400 the other thing we heard is that deportations are continuing but we're doing them in different ways

00:25:35.780 so that it's not so flashy it's not so obvious uh you know we're still doing the deportations

00:25:41.720 but you're just not seeing as much of it um I know the Trump administration is still doing good work

00:25:47.280 in these areas and I'm thankful for the fact that it is much better than it would be under

00:25:50.760 Biden or really any Republican in my lifetime but that said it does feel like the foot came

00:25:56.400 right off the gas here so can you talk a little bit about that shift in both the rhetoric and

00:26:01.680 intensity coming from the trump administration in the last few months good work is being done

00:26:08.000 mass deportations are not good work is is definitely being done anytime you put hands

00:26:14.000 on an illegal alien and deport said illegal alien that's good work nobody nobody says that's not

00:26:20.160 that's great work. But mass deportations, that is not occurring, not in any form or fashion right

00:26:26.400 now. Targeted enforcement and worst of the worst, that is, we've said this for months and years now

00:26:33.740 in the Border Patrol, the worst of the worst and the targeting. That type of immigration enforcement

00:26:39.320 is what ICE has done since ICE was formed approximately 23 years ago after 9-11.

00:26:46.280 That type of enforcement is for an immigration system already under control, an immigration system that is working and functioning properly.

00:26:55.560 In other words, an immigration system that doesn't have tens of millions of illegal aliens running around the streets with impunity, killing American citizens in broad daylight, like Ms. Gorman in Chicago and many others.

00:27:07.520 So when you talk targeting and worst of the worst, that can also have a detrimental effect on, say, the border.

00:27:16.200 You know, who thinks of themselves as the worst of the worst?

00:27:20.620 Most illegal aliens come across, say, well, you know what? 0.86

00:27:23.120 They're going after those worst of the worst, the child rapists only and the murderers only. 0.77

00:27:27.680 I haven't murdered anyone or maybe I murdered someone, but that's in my home country.

00:27:31.980 Nobody will ever know that. So I can come across that border.

00:27:34.860 And it's just like the old days. Make it across the border. And you know what? I'm good to go.

00:27:41.560 Nobody's ever going to touch me. Maybe amnesty coming a little bit later. So I'm good to go.

00:27:48.100 And the same with the illegal aliens already here in the interior. Gosh, I'm not the worst of the 0.99

00:27:54.020 worst. You know what? I'm just over here selling tacos out of a cooler here on the corner of the

00:28:01.360 street messing up American businessmen, but yeah, that's not worst of the worst. That's okay. Or

00:28:06.400 I'm an Indian foreign national chiseling away at ancient Indian ruins in one of our national parks.

00:28:13.840 You know what? I feel comfortable enough to do that right out in the middle of broad daylight

00:28:17.660 because I'm not worst of the worst. I don't have anything to worry about. So that's what we get

00:28:22.740 into when we continue with what brought us to this very problem in the first place, which is

00:28:29.240 targeting and worst of the worst. That's what allows tens of millions of illegal aliens to 0.99

00:28:35.080 come in because nobody thinks you're worst of the worst. Total Spectrum Immigration Enforcement 1.00

00:28:40.500 reverses that. It stops that. It's the solution to that. And I'll tell you what, President Trump

00:28:46.920 is, as you say, he's the best, best president I've ever worked for as far as deportations.

00:28:55.000 Even now, with just worse than the worst in targeting, as you say, that's better than any president in our lifetimes, and it surely is.

00:29:02.540 I think President Trump, I think he'll probably have his staff at some point go back to that general immigration, that total spectrum immigration enforcement, because he knows what's at stake here. 0.76

00:29:14.420 And let's hope that happens before any more American lives are lost, because unfortunately, unless we go hard with total spectrum immigration enforcement, more Americans are going to die. 0.94

00:29:27.720 More Americans will lose their lives needlessly to illegal aliens. 0.96

00:29:33.640 And, you know, I've got a problem that I want total spectrum starting like right now. 0.87

00:29:37.900 I'm not a big optics guy. I don't really care about the polling.

00:29:40.600 I really don't believe the polling. And I've always been very apolitical as a law enforcement

00:29:46.020 officer. You should be apolitical. And let's get that total spectrum immigration enforcement started

00:29:51.680 now. But kudos to President Trump for what he's done thus far. Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't really

00:29:58.660 buy like you the idea that mass deportations are ultimately unpopular. However, even if they were

00:30:04.600 unpopular, well, if we're going to do something unpopular, let's do the deportations and not say

00:30:09.000 a war in the middle east like if you have to pick one unpopular thing to get done i think the battle

00:30:13.900 for our own country inside our borders uh personally i feel like that takes priority

00:30:19.360 that said you uh seem to allude to tensions between establishment figures who want to kind

00:30:26.100 of maintain the status quo with the semi-open borders scenario providing the cheap labor and

00:30:31.860 everything i think people can feel that because as we've already talked about self-deportation is

00:30:36.880 the most powerful tool you ultimately have to get the mass deportations going. And if we could just

00:30:42.420 eliminate employers across the country, make it really painful to hire an illegal immigrant, 0.88

00:30:48.660 then it seems very unlikely that illegal immigrants would maintain any presence in the United States.

00:30:54.180 But it's very clear that for some reason there's a barrier there, that we seem to have

00:30:58.260 difficulty when we target especially the employers. That's where things break down.

00:31:03.500 Can you talk a little bit about that struggle when we know there's a very effective thing we could do, but there seems to be a barrier against the most effective option we could take?

00:31:13.140 Sure. Well, the tensions do exist, no doubt, but they've always existed.

00:31:17.860 Border Patrol, the Mean Green Team, as I refer to the Border Patrol, has always been raring to go for that total spectrum immigration enforcement.

00:31:26.960 and there's always been a tension, a reticence there to allow Border Patrol to conduct its

00:31:33.260 traditional mission of interior enforcement in times of need. Remember, it was the Border Patrol

00:31:37.560 that conducted those large-scale immigration deportation operations of times past. So there

00:31:44.060 has been the tension there because of the cheap labor. A lot of folks think that cheap labor is

00:31:49.640 good, that it helps the economy. You'll often hear, oh, they pay taxes and, you know, they work

00:31:57.000 hard. I think they pay more in remittances than they do taxes. So definitely there's some push

00:32:04.480 pull there. And, you know, we're going to have to get past that. You know, if we look at the damage

00:32:11.720 that illegal aliens do to our nation, not just in terms of crime, but everything else and some 1.00

00:32:16.520 the things we've already talked about i think that once folks take a look at that especially 0.99

00:32:21.720 with the cultural change aspect of things let's take economics out let's take crime out but what

00:32:28.040 about the cultural change do you think that those illegal aliens that come from communist countries

00:32:34.680 and a lot of those countries are communist countries or socialist countries same thing

00:32:39.560 what about the second amendment is your second amendment going to be around if these individuals

00:32:44.360 are given amnesty and what do you think is going to happen with that so i think when we talk about

00:32:50.040 the tensions we need to shape this argument into something that gives everyone a a bird's eye view

00:32:57.720 a full-scale view of what those problems of what the problems are and what our future looks like

00:33:03.240 you know it might be nice to pay someone two dollars an hour to hang your christmas tree 0.59

00:33:06.680 lights that child rapist out in your yard hanging christmas tree lights but eventually the bill

00:33:11.880 comes due and it's going to come due pretty darn quick unless we do something very soon in terms of 0.98

00:33:18.440 mass deportation. So I think that, you know, shaping the argument in terms of that, and that's

00:33:24.280 being done now. You're doing it right now. A lot of other social media influencers are doing the

00:33:29.340 same, the Nick Sorters and the Posobics and the Witzkies and all of those types of folks, they're

00:33:34.640 doing it right now. And I think people are waking up to the fact that cheap labor costs you far more 0.60

00:33:40.520 in the future. It could actually make your culture and your society something you'll

00:33:45.680 never recognize. Well, and this is why immigration is really my only issue. It's not that I don't 0.99

00:33:53.040 care about other things, but immigration shapes every other issue. I mean, the basic fact that

00:33:58.960 it looks like the Supreme Court is going to uphold this ridiculous understanding of the 14th

00:34:03.740 Amendment and birthright citizenship means that any illegal immigrant who stays in the United

00:34:08.460 states long enough is going to produce new people who immediately have all the rights of an american 0.66

00:34:13.400 and those people are going to vote a particular way in fact when the democratic party isn't you

00:34:17.640 know trying to attack you as some kind of nazi or fascist or white supremacist for noticing what

00:34:23.120 they say they'll gloat about the fact that by importing enough people into the united states 0.52

00:34:28.680 who are not of european descent they will change the voting patterns of the united states and get

00:34:34.160 the things they want because they know the people coming from those countries are more likely to

00:34:38.720 adopt many of the communist or socialist policies, as you were pointing out. And so there's an effect

00:34:43.700 of when you bring these people in and you shape the voting demographic, it doesn't matter what

00:34:47.980 your arguments are anymore. It's no longer a marketplace of ideas, some exchange over shared

00:34:52.940 values. Instead, you're importing an entire different voting bloc with different cultures,

00:34:57.460 different beliefs, different understandings, who all know they're politically beholden to the

00:35:01.520 Democratic Party for being here in the first place. So you basically have a subversive class

00:35:06.280 of voters who come in and get all of the benefits from a political party that's built on importing 0.81

00:35:12.500 people from different cultures who will not maintain the American ideal. And if you don't 0.96

00:35:16.860 grasp that as the key political lever that the left is using to dominate our society,

00:35:22.400 then you will never win an election again. Never. You never will. And then those individuals that

00:35:28.720 love the cheap, the cheap labor, especially some of the rhinos, they're playing so, they're being

00:35:34.020 played so perfectly by the left because, you know, Cap, the good thing about capitalism is it'll

00:35:40.240 take care of things anyway. It'll balance, it'll balance the books out anyway, in terms of that

00:35:46.020 cheap labor. You know, a lot of these jobs, all these jobs were getting done before the illegal

00:35:53.020 aliens ever arrived here. You know, you hear this misconstrued story that illegal aliens built the

00:35:58.080 country. Nothing could be further from the truth because it's a recent phenomenon of illegal aliens 0.67

00:36:02.920 tape. You know, so many different sectors of society were paying American citizens a living

00:36:10.340 wage to do a job before the illegal aliens got here. Look at carpentry. Look at the wages of 1.00

00:36:15.760 American carpenters. That was a fantastic job that paid very well for the ingenuity of Americans,

00:36:23.240 those carpenters that boy they knew their craft and their trade inside and out and they could make

00:36:28.520 a good living at it now it's it's a lot more difficult and you don't even see that many

00:36:33.480 american carpenters or brick masons or things like that anymore because we've imported this

00:36:38.200 these semi or very low skilled individuals and they'll do it for half the price or even lower

00:36:45.560 than that a lot of times and you know i would rather pay that american carpenter

00:36:51.000 his living wage than pay the cheap labor half because it's going to cost the consumer

00:36:57.220 the same in the end. Take housing construction. Do you think that they're passing those savings

00:37:03.840 onto you when they contract that cheap labor at half the price of that American carpenter? Of

00:37:09.800 course not. They're keeping the savings, folks. Pulling the wool over your eyes. That cheap labor

00:37:14.420 only helps a very few, and that's the individuals that are breaking the law, bringing the cheap

00:37:20.100 labor in so they don't have to pay the American carpenter the money. And they're not passing the

00:37:25.920 savings on to you. And I think that's something that a lot of American citizens don't realize

00:37:31.480 is the savings are never passed on to you. It's just you're getting shoddy work. And again,

00:37:38.720 you're going to pay for it in the end. Well, and yeah, the work is just terrible. So what are you

00:37:43.560 really saving at the end of the day and this is a huge problem because we are increasingly

00:37:50.480 bifurcating our economy to the point where okay if you were a native-born American well you can't

00:37:58.520 really do manual labor anymore you can't do any of these physical crafts you can't become

00:38:03.100 you know somebody who turns out an excellent product in construction or these other you know

00:38:08.760 kind of classic American industries that allowed men who weren't necessarily

00:38:13.680 going to go to college, who weren't going to, you know,

00:38:16.400 become a rocket surgeon still were going to have good honorable livings,

00:38:20.640 do an important work, providing for their community,

00:38:23.200 putting food on the table for their family. And now you have a scenario.

00:38:26.380 It's like, okay, well, either you go to Harvard or you end up, you know,

00:38:30.700 working at some Walmart somewhere. There's no,

00:38:33.620 there's no honorable path for a man to enter into these you know uh these uh different employments

00:38:40.320 these job opportunities work his way up you know build up that reputation without having to go into

00:38:46.460 this information economy and so we're designing the entire united states for this laptop class

00:38:51.420 and information you know workspaces and don't get me wrong you know i'm i'm somebody who benefits

00:38:56.000 from that but you know i also paid my way through college by putting roofs on buildings in florida

00:39:00.340 And so I understand that if I hadn't had that opportunity, and at the time, don't get me wrong, there were a lot of people speaking Spanish on that roof with me, but if I had not had that opportunity, I probably would have not made it through college, and I would not have had the opportunity to do what I'm doing now.

00:39:14.260 So we're breaking down fundamental elements that are necessary for the flourishing of American citizens just so we can turn those different constituent jobs into cheap labor, often producing far worse results.

00:39:25.160 Yes, it's mediocrity and destroying the middle class. I can't think of a better way to destroy a middle class.

00:39:33.440 How many young boys have you seen out mowing grass or raking leaves in the past 15 or 20 years?

00:39:40.840 That's something that I look for and I never see it anymore. Never see it anymore.

00:39:45.940 The young man out there trying to make some money to perhaps put himself through college, things like that.

00:39:53.460 You don't even see that anymore. And, you know, the lessons learned via hard work, you yourself said it, you might not have made it through college had you not had those good hard lessons you learned on that roof. Well, that's being taken away from American citizens all in the name of some contractor or some individual that wants to make a little more money. It's sad.

00:40:17.100 so as we near the end here i want to look for the solutions we've talked about that full spectrum

00:40:25.400 dominance making sure that we're attacking this from every angle we want to see that ramp back up

00:40:31.440 from the trump administration you said you think that is coming and that's hopeful because i'll be

00:40:37.380 honest people keep telling me oh the the deportations are happening the deportations are

00:40:41.440 happening well when i go to walmart there's literally not a single person who speaks english

00:40:45.980 there not just customers but employees as well and look this is not some you know strange

00:40:52.180 neighborhood in the middle of nowhere it's not mom and pop stores run by you know hispanic people 0.95

00:40:57.140 who are all kind of like in their ethnic ghetto we're talking about big box retail stores in the 1.00

00:41:01.900 middle of a relatively decent sized city that are completely basically no-go zones for english 1.00

00:41:08.220 speakers we talk about no-go zones in in france or all these other european countries as if there's

00:41:13.260 some ridiculous thing that only happens over there. But that's now the scenario in the United

00:41:17.300 States. We now have entire sectors that are no longer oriented towards actually serving

00:41:22.180 Americans who speak English. And so I think it's really critical with the next few years of the

00:41:28.200 Trump administration that we see a radical increase. I've seen you say that there could

00:41:32.400 be as many as 100 million illegals in the United States. That sounds crazy to people to say that

00:41:37.120 is impossible. That's like a third of the population. But having lived in Florida in this

00:41:42.520 area, I have to say, it sounds entirely reasonable to me. So can you talk a little bit about that

00:41:47.240 number and how the Trump administration can get back on track and accelerate these again?

00:41:51.760 Sure. A hundred million illegal aliens. That's something that I've been looking at the number

00:41:57.600 for 30 years. I've been in the border patrol for 30 years. I was always very interested in the

00:42:02.060 number because when I started, it was 14 to 15 million. And the same research centers like Pew

00:42:09.380 and some of the others, it's still 14 to 15 million. It's the most ludicrous bunch of BS 0.96

00:42:15.140 I've ever heard in my life. So when you hear that year after year, it makes you think, well, gosh, 0.98

00:42:20.380 I'm the border security professional. What do I think? So I did my research. I pulled research

00:42:25.840 from other research and also what I saw on the border. And then what I saw and what all the

00:42:35.140 Border Patrol agents saw in those cities nationwide. All cities, all regions are filled

00:42:40.340 with illegal aliens. And many sections of Central and South America, Mexico included, have had 0.71

00:42:47.240 entire villages denuded of males between the ages of 18 and 45. What does that tell you when that

00:42:55.000 type of a population shift occurs in those countries? That's a whole hell of a lot of people.

00:43:02.420 So when you take all that together and then look at some of the statistics we saw, whether it's the driving the daily commutes into work or absentee rates for children in school, all sorts of metrics like that does point to the hundred million figure being the accurate figure.

00:43:19.880 Also, besides Pew and some of the other political driven research, you never really hear anybody give you a hard and fast number.

00:43:29.320 They'll say, hey, Bovino is awfully crazy for 100 million.

00:43:32.040 Well, then what's your number? How do you know?

00:43:34.560 And they can never, ever seem to really say anything.

00:43:37.480 They don't have much there.

00:43:38.960 So 100 million.

00:43:40.780 And I think that most of middle America, they actually see that with their own eyes.

00:43:45.700 some of the fringe left liberal socialist sheep, they've got the blinders on or they don't want

00:43:50.940 to see it, or they're just going to lie to you because they want more of those voters in, as you

00:43:54.880 say, to vote our rights away. What can Trump do or what's he going to do? Again, Trump's a sharp

00:44:01.560 cat. We all know that. Trump's a sharp one, and I think that he always does the right thing. 0.97

00:44:07.320 What I fear is that it's going to take some precipitating events to really kick this into

00:44:13.620 high year, some American citizen dying in another heinous way that makes the news and then jump

00:44:22.320 starts this total spectrum immigration enforcement. You know, we should just do it now before that

00:44:28.300 happens. So I think there'll be a precipitating event that does that. Also, the public pressure.

00:44:35.180 There is a large segment of the public. Look at those young college Republicans. I've had the

00:44:40.520 pleasure of talking with those young college Republicans and young college conservatives,

00:44:45.280 because not all Republicans are conservative, but those young college Republicans, those young

00:44:49.300 conservatives, what a force that is turning out to be. Keep an eye on, keep an eye on those,

00:44:54.880 keep an eye on those, because I think this fall when college comes back into session,

00:45:01.200 you're going to start seeing some action taking place that Trump's going to be looking at,

00:45:07.620 because, you know, he's very adept at gauging public attitudes, public opinions, and when he 0.57

00:45:13.620 sees that same block of young men and women that helped put him in office, clamoring for total

00:45:20.160 spectrum immigration enforcement, as well as the rest of American society, he's going to say, yeah,

00:45:25.040 it's time to do it. It's time to drop the hammer. It's time to do it. And the good thing is we've

00:45:32.560 already got the strategy. All we do is pull that strategy off the shelf and implement immediately

00:45:37.600 We can get those 100 million out of this country effective like ASAP. And, you know, we're I think you've got a lot of folks ready to go, both with the public and in law enforcement.

00:45:50.540 it no i think that's right you know you i hope you're correct that we can get moving before

00:45:57.240 some terrible incident we just saw what happened in the uk we know the tensions that are building

00:46:01.860 there at least in the united states we have a government that is not hostile to the idea of

00:46:07.560 deportations if not pursuing it at the rate we want in the uk it's a very different story

00:46:11.820 and creates a very dangerous situation but you're right i've spoken to these young people in college

00:46:16.540 republicans and elsewhere and uh they are based uh the the kids are going to be all right like

00:46:22.520 they they make you and me look like soft squishy liberals at the end of the day so um uh that that

00:46:28.340 gives us hope for the future for sure it does it does and you're right you know a lot of us were

00:46:33.520 were down over the past few years on on the youth well now the youth i'm i'm so pleasantly surprised

00:46:40.300 but like you say they're they're they're even more hardcore than me and i didn't think that was

00:46:44.480 possible but wow some of these folks but you know what it is it they're seeing what's happening

00:46:50.180 they're seeing their future dissolving before their eyes and they're doing something they're

00:46:55.820 they're being american here they're being americans they're conducting american exceptionalism

00:47:00.980 and right before our eyes and it's the most refreshing thing i've seen that movement

00:47:05.360 boy oh boy if america doesn't know what's coming that movement's coming and uh some folks better

00:47:12.160 start paying attention uh you know uh uh ken paxton and all that stuff in texas you know

00:47:19.180 there's a prime example of that and i think that is going you're going to see more of that

00:47:24.180 and a lot of these rhinos get primaried out you'll see that ad or two change very very quickly

00:47:29.540 as it should yeah i mean don't get me wrong we love our boomers but they really just enjoyed

00:47:35.520 the fact that the line kept going up they didn't have to worry about it their stock portfolios 1.00

00:47:39.420 their home prices they felt like their wealth is increasing but the young people they have to live 0.99

00:47:43.980 here they have to raise families here they have to carve out a future here and so they don't have 0.93

00:47:48.180 time to mess around with this they can't pretend that getting a you know a babysitter or a a lawn

00:47:53.640 specialist a little cheaper is ultimately going to do their children any good because there will

00:47:58.940 be no jobs there will be no future there'll be no america and so they take this all very seriously

00:48:04.080 well it has been a pleasure speaking with you guys again we're not live today so sorry we can't

00:48:08.840 answer any questions from the audience. But Mr. Bovino, if there is anything you'd like to let

00:48:13.760 people know about, I know you have your Twitter account. Is there any other place people can

00:48:17.660 follow you, see what you're doing, you know, kind of see your work? That's Gregory K. Bovino on X

00:48:23.660 there. So that's really the main site now. Still working on the book here. And I've got maybe

00:48:30.620 another interesting item coming out that folks will like if I can get it off the ground. But

00:48:36.360 that's just a teaser. So, uh, it's, it's nice to be with you here today and thanks for having me.

00:48:42.120 Yeah. Thanks again. I know you've got a lot of, uh, fans, uh, of your work and they want to see

00:48:46.840 more. So I think people will definitely be checking that out and we're all hoping the

00:48:50.500 Trump administration kicks into gear the way that you are hoping as well. Thank you everybody for

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - June 05, 2026

Greg Bovino Reveals the TRUTH About Mass Deportations ｜ Guest： Greg Bovino ｜ 6⧸5⧸2026

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