The Auron MacIntyre Show - H-1B Part 2： Electric Boogaloo ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 11⧸21⧸25

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00:00:59.640 All right guys, it's almost the holiday season.

00:01:04.880 You know, we're approaching Thanksgiving.

00:01:06.640 Christmas will come quickly after.

00:01:08.440 And what would it be in the United States if we didn't have a bunch of people telling us

00:01:12.980 that we need a lot of H-1B workers to replace all the lazy Americans during the holidays. 0.99

00:01:18.700 So we've seen another H-1B coal out.

00:01:22.540 It's H-1B2 electric boogaloo.

00:01:25.240 We have all the greatest hits.

00:01:27.200 We've got Donald Trump suggesting that American workers aren't smart enough to put together batteries.

00:01:32.180 We have Elon Musk talking about how no one in the United States will do any physical labor.

00:01:37.620 We have Dinesh D'Souza talking about how H-1Bs will teach Whitey how to truly become an American. 1.00

00:01:45.260 And of course, we see last year's contestant and winner of Vivek Ramaswamy falling behind in his poll

00:01:52.080 to win a governorship that should have been easily handed to any Republican who did not hate the American people.

00:01:58.160 Joining me today to talk about this is one of our longtime favorite guests, the Prudentialist.

00:02:04.200 Thank you so much for coming on, man.

00:02:05.720 Thanks for having me on, Orr, and I greatly appreciate it.

00:02:08.560 Of course.

00:02:09.440 So where to begin?

00:02:10.400 Where to begin?

00:02:11.100 I mean, I've already played the Trump video at this point, so we can probably start there

00:02:15.140 because then we'll have the least to say about that.

00:02:16.780 That one's kind of the oldest one at this point.

00:02:19.580 But everyone saw the last week how Donald Trump was in this interview with Laura Ingraham.

00:02:25.640 And he said, well, ultimately, we have to have H-1Bs because Americans need to be trained on these positions

00:02:33.460 and we just don't have the talent to do that.

00:02:36.440 Now, interestingly, Donald Trump's selection for an example of the type of training he's talking about

00:02:42.080 is a Hinda plant in the United States, which was basically keeping over half its staff as trainers from Korea

00:02:51.300 and they had all overstayed their visas.

00:02:53.180 They were all getting paid pennies on the dollar.

00:02:56.020 But they were training Americans.

00:02:59.380 And when the ICE raid finally came and the plant got in trouble, Donald Trump acted as if this was some foreign government.

00:03:07.840 Like maybe the Biden administration had returned and taken over parts of ICE.

00:03:12.600 He's like, well, and then they went out and raided this as like, no, Trump, you did.

00:03:17.240 Like that's your your department.

00:03:19.980 That's your executive branch doing what you were supposed to be doing.

00:03:24.280 But he seemed very angry that this had happened.

00:03:27.260 And there just seemed very, very bad messaging coming back out of the White House on this issue.

00:03:32.780 J.D. Vance has kind of had to come in and try to clean it up.

00:03:35.980 Bessette tried to do the same thing, saying, oh, they're they're just going to train them for like seven years.

00:03:39.980 We're just going to give them seven year visas to train American workers because that's how it takes to train an American to put together a battery. 0.98

00:03:47.940 What's your reaction to kind of the Trump aspect of this this absolute cluster?

00:03:52.880 Yeah, it's been incredibly poor messaging at the moment, especially when I think a lot of people and again, you have to gauge everything between what's actually been done versus sort of what we see in the online news cycle.

00:04:06.480 I mean, as you and I are talking, it's just a few days since the two month anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination and almost immediately any momentum that could have came from that on the right have been immediately squabbled for purity contests and arguments over the issue of H1B visas or who's an American or how much money we should give to various countries across the globe in terms of foreign aid.

00:04:27.860 So to watch things fracture so quickly is really depressing and heartbreaking.

00:04:31.200 I think that the administration has had some major fumbles with regards to its messaging on visas and H1B visas, because since you had said this has kind of become an annual, dare I say, seasonal event that comes with the holidays, as you'd mentioned at the beginning, you know, you and I were on the air about a year ago on your program to discuss Vivek Ramaswamy's, you know, H1B crash out over this exact issue.

00:04:54.960 The same thing with Elon Musk almost a year ago to the day at this point, which is incredibly depressing that we're getting to have to do this once again over and over.

00:05:03.380 I think that when it comes to Trump and the Laura Ingraham interview, I think it's bizarre in context because we have to remember that Laura Ingraham kind of did the weird, you know, little Third Reich salute almost for the visual gag during the 2016 Republican National Convention, because I don't think she was very pro-Trump at the time.

00:05:20.060 And then to see her take this angle is really a remarkable change of pace.

00:05:23.960 But at the same time, you know, this administration has done a lot, or at least has tried to.

00:05:28.700 And even in the first Trump administration, there was a reduction in the number of H1Bs that could come in.

00:05:33.020 I think, however, the way that he took those questions from Laura Ingraham, not to mention that there are more than just H1B visas.

00:05:39.080 We have L1, we have the OPT system, and of course, with farm work, you have the H2B visa system.

00:05:44.580 All these things need drastic reform in order for us to actually put American workers first, rather than outsourcing every little thing imaginable.

00:05:53.860 Because you and I have seen on the timeline and by numerous other writers and sort of data analytic guys that we know that countless H1B visas are out there from everything to 7-Eleven to Walt Disney World to every major American tech corporation in the United States.

00:06:09.660 So not the best messaging on Trump's part, but this is in the backdrop of the $100,000 fee that they had put out, which even then that wasn't exactly what we had wanted.

00:06:19.660 And so I think that the administration is trying to, you know, get back on its feet when it comes to this messaging, because for you and I, I think we all voted for him because Biden opened the borders.

00:06:30.480 I mean, the borders have been open even long before Biden.

00:06:32.920 But I voted for deportations, and I think that he needs to maybe be reconnected with his base and what they want out of that issue.

00:06:39.980 No, I agree entirely.

00:06:41.640 You know, someone just pointed out, I think it was Jesse Kelly on Twitter, he said, you know, it's either it's all immigration and inflation.

00:06:48.920 This was what Trump was reelected.

00:06:51.380 Either you fix those two problems or you don't, and everything else is noise, right?

00:06:54.920 Like, ultimately, people might, you know, care more or less about foreign policy, Israel, foreign aid, you know, any of this stuff.

00:07:04.400 But the two things that the base really cares about is that everything's getting more expensive, and there's too many people who shouldn't be here competing for their jobs, driving up their health care costs, taking over housing, all of these things.

00:07:15.960 And so those are the key issues.

00:07:18.380 And as you said, it's important to recognize that H-1B has kind of become this now blanket term for all of these work visas, right?

00:07:28.360 Now it's, okay, well, it's all these other programs as well.

00:07:32.000 Well, and they're all being abused, the educational visas are being abused, the, you know, the agricultural visas are being abused, the, you know, the work visas are being abused.

00:07:41.800 It's just across the board, and we're just looking for large scale visa reform.

00:07:46.040 Now, it's entirely possible that Trump was just kind of, you know, people have pointed this out.

00:07:51.140 He repeats whatever the last, you know, advisor he had in the room said, right?

00:07:56.060 So somebody might have pointed out, well, there's a difference between, you know, just having people in to take jobs and having people to train or something.

00:08:02.240 But it's very clear from, again, the example Trump gave, which was like the worst possible example, that that is not a difference that is delineated enough for the administration.

00:08:12.760 And as you point out, fewer H-1B workers had come in, and they are talking about, you know, they have this $100,000.

00:08:18.780 Now, again, bad messaging on this, because originally it was supposed to be every year, which was definitely going to hurt what that visa was going to be able to do mass immigration-wise.

00:08:28.440 When it's just a one-time fee, it's still, at least it's some kind of barrier, but it's certainly not the one we were hoping for.

00:08:35.380 So there's a mixed bag in performance versus messaging.

00:08:38.900 But I think the real problem, the reason that people took issue, was the implication that Americans just don't have the skills, right?

00:08:45.900 Like, that's, it's not even so much the number of people coming in, though that's certainly a huge deal.

00:08:50.780 But it was the first time, I think, you know, Trump has been very good, at least as opposed to everything else, very good on messaging the value of the American people and the American workers, right?

00:09:02.720 Like, that has been the thing that I think people felt Trump was connecting with over and over again, the Rust Belt, the people left behind by automation, by immigration, by globalization.

00:09:14.340 These people were the ones who were fighting for Trump because he was going to bring the jobs back to the United States.

00:09:20.200 And so it's just very difficult, I think, for a lot of people to hear this idea that ultimately just Americans just don't have the skills.

00:09:26.900 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:09:27.820 When you haven't had an active manufacturing program for a while, yes, there is some level of skill acquisition that has to occur.

00:09:37.100 But Trump isn't talking about, you know, building a thousand technical colleges to reinvigorate American manufacturing and bring the average worker up to speed.

00:09:46.360 They're not even talking about sending one American, I don't know, to the place where they have this particular skill set, having them learn it and then having them come back.

00:09:55.600 No, the only option is to bring thousands and thousands of people into the United States to acquire these skills.

00:10:02.260 And in a time where we have, you know, Skype and Zoom and all these Internet apps and all these YouTube videos and the way that you could make training videos, communicate that knowledge.

00:10:12.680 It seems like bringing thousands of people over here for five to seven years, the way Bissette was talking about, is just the worst possible way to do this training, which makes me feel like it's not about training at all.

00:10:24.400 It's got an entirely different agenda attached to it.

00:10:27.280 And I think that's what worries people when Trump talks like that.

00:10:30.880 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:32.260 And again, like you had mentioned, the H-1B has become the go-to word or term that we use to talk about all work visas.

00:10:41.240 And while America's industrial base has taken a beating over the last several decades, there's probably going to need to be some room or potential option for us to work with allied nations like the Australians or, in this instance, the Koreans.

00:10:56.360 And I think the reason why that had such a blow up the way it did is because of Korean foreign investment in American plants in general and our relationship to them is, I think, tenuous at best in a lot of ways.

00:11:07.260 From what I was reading out of Korean sources, that it was taken as a big national front considering how much money they've given in.

00:11:14.320 So I think Trump is trying to balance that line, although I think in this instance it does not come off well after the midst of everything that we've already seen on the timeline and on the news headlines, especially when it comes to this issue.

00:11:26.920 Because as you had said, the two biggest issues out of the 2024 election was immigration and inflation.

00:11:33.400 And neither of those feel relatively under control despite actions being taken.

00:11:37.920 And so the base is angry and rightfully so.

00:11:39.960 And I think that we need to have a more clear delineation between what kind of programs this administration wants to keep or wants to slash, wants to reform.

00:11:47.480 Senator Eric Schmidt has put out, you know, a great push to, you know, end the optional practical training program, which is under the F1 visa system, which basically just allows for this unaccountable network of student visa holders who can then stay in the country.

00:12:02.920 And then companies that use that system get billions of dollars in tax exemptions every year.

00:12:08.940 So there's a lot that needs to be cracked down.

00:12:11.280 And a lot of this could probably be done without the administration making major moves about it, unless they're going to say we're officially ending this program.

00:12:18.400 This is what we're going to remove.

00:12:19.580 This is how many people aren't going to come here.

00:12:20.860 We're going to focus on Americans.

00:12:22.220 That would do them a lot of good.

00:12:24.140 But instead, the administration has unfortunately opened their mouths and inserted their own foot in there in the midst of, once again, we're having a debate over immigration and we're seeing the same usual actors engage in the same kind of ethnic finger wagging like Dinesh D'Souza about American workers or those who are capable and to be trained.

00:12:43.980 Because, you know, and to segue into sort of that discussion, while we're trying to reindustrialize and while this administration, even the Biden administration, whoever was actually running it, understood the national security importance of having basic industry in the United States and not relying on incredibly fragile supply chains where some terrorists off the coast of Yemen can significantly disrupt global trade, let alone everything we learned from COVID.

00:13:09.980 So because we're trying to bring back American ship construction here, we're trying to focus on semiconductor manufacturing here, all sorts of things that are now, of course, you know, thrown in the mix of tariffs and immigration.

00:13:21.900 The administration has unfortunately waded into what has been just, you know, the celebration parallax, but from people allegedly on the right.

00:13:31.360 And I think that it's incredibly damning for a guy who wrote a book called The End of Racism to then have his ego bruised by some, you know, travel vlog YouTuber and turn into a blood and soil nationalist for a country that he doesn't associate with.

00:13:46.100 And he's claimed to be, you know, this colorblind, you know, race blind, American, classical liberal conservative for 30 years, only to have a greater ordeal of civility we haven't seen since Alexander the Second.

00:13:58.580 Yeah, it was really disappointing to watch that crash out.

00:14:02.580 I mean, I've been on Dinesh's show several times and we've always had our differences, but we've gotten along well enough.

00:14:09.080 I was shocked, frankly, to see him kind of fall into that pattern.

00:14:13.500 Now, he had been crashing out about kind of the Israel issue and everything else.

00:14:18.460 Talk about how Jesus wasn't really a Christian.

00:14:20.700 The disciples weren't really Christians, all these things for a while.

00:14:24.520 So he had kind of been spiraling. I imagine he was probably getting quite a bit of backlash online, some of it somewhat ugly.

00:14:30.720 But when you talk like that and you push that kind of agenda, you're probably going to get some heat.

00:14:35.360 And I think this was kind of just kind of the straw that broke the camel's back, probably ultimately for Dinesh.

00:14:42.300 But watching him, yeah, just lash out and say things like, hey, Whitey, you know, the H1B guys are going to are going to outperform you. 1.00

00:14:50.360 They're better Americans than you. And and actually, you know, we're the ones who are going to take over.

00:14:55.840 Again, it was it was a little reminiscent of the VVAC.

00:14:59.500 Well, you know, yes, I'm an American. I was born in America, but my immigrant subclass is better than American culture.

00:15:07.320 And we do things better. And you guys are lazy and stupid and play football and watch TV and, you know, go to parties. 1.00

00:15:13.820 And we're the ones who are going to spelling bees because we're just better people than you. 1.00

00:15:17.580 And you could probably learn something from us, you know, like it had a very similar quality.

00:15:22.160 And then you look at people like Nikki Haley, the minute that there's some kind of tension with India and she runs out and says, oh, no.

00:15:28.600 Well, you know, maybe we should disagree. But whatever you do, you know, don't cut India off.

00:15:32.880 And it's like, you know, man, at some point, it's hard for me not to notice the trend here.

00:15:37.600 You know, at some point, it's hard not to see that over and over again, people who are supposed to be Americanized, many of which have born in America. 0.51

00:15:46.760 In the case of Dinesh coming from, like, I think a long line of Christians because of where he was located in India.

00:15:53.340 I mean, this assimilation process should be pretty far down the line, maybe not for VVAC.

00:15:57.540 He's like one generation in. But Haley and Dinesh, you think there would be more there.

00:16:02.440 And then the minute some sub-ethnic interest kind of arises in the policy, it's not America first anymore.

00:16:10.920 It's not about, you know, race colorblindness anymore.

00:16:14.140 It's not about ending racism and an MLK's vision.

00:16:17.380 It's about me and mine and my people are better than your people. 0.73

00:16:20.840 And I can tell they're my people immediately because, you know, he runs out and says, we're doing better than you like this.

00:16:27.580 Who's the we there? Is it Americans? No.

00:16:30.560 So, like, it's very clearly it's some other group.

00:16:33.480 And so when that's kind of your default response under stress, people start to wonder, OK, what level of assimilation is actually happening here?

00:16:42.520 Yeah. And I think that this is sort of come back under the discussion about what, you know, there's I think is Bobby Jindal,

00:16:48.560 who, again, another, you know, Indian American who ran for president in 2016 and I think has now quietly joined the sort of make America healthy again coalition kind of like disappeared off of the national stage since the 2016 election.

00:17:01.420 But he had famously had said, I think, on the campaign trail on immigration, a line that I'm sure he didn't come up with.

00:17:07.440 But, you know, one where it was along the lines of immigration without assimilation as an invasion and whether that's from him or not, besides the point.

00:17:14.880 But it really does come to show that, well, if they're not assimilating or if they say that they're not and you scratch behind this veneer of, you know, sort of civic, patriotic American identity and all of a sudden we're rooting for the people that they actually identify with.

00:17:29.260 Well, it raises a particular concerning question about, well, how many people who have immigrated here or even have been born here and multi-generation immigrant families are actually considering themselves to be American and do not have a previous loyalty somewhere else.

00:17:44.680 And I know that a lot of people get up in arms when people say, well, they might be loyal to somewhere else.

00:17:48.200 And they'll say that that's like a canard or some sort of dog whistle that you're talking about some country in the Middle East.

00:17:53.360 No, it really does apply to almost every group that does.

00:17:56.660 Right, right.

00:17:57.280 This is just diaspora politics.

00:17:59.980 It's not about one group or another.

00:18:01.920 No, it's the invitation of bringing every other, you know, nation's, you know, inter-scene ethnic squabbles front and center into the country.

00:18:10.640 And it's particularly entertaining, for instance, you know, like Nikki Haley.

00:18:14.100 I mean, the big red flag behind her, besides being a, you know, a warmongering neocon, was that, you know, she had talked about her, you know, lived experiences and the racism she experienced being the only brown kid,

00:18:25.800 which is always sort of this big leftist coded term.

00:18:28.160 And then all of a sudden her son, you know, Naylan, or however it may be pronounced, forgive me, has been going on Twitter, just basically calling certain people just non-Americans or that they're, you know, they should go back to where they came from.

00:18:38.620 And the meme of two people who look the same on one side of the border saying, we don't like you, go back where you came from is being played out as we speak.

00:18:45.460 But it does go to show that like, okay, well, if this is truly where your priorities are, then what's, what is America doing for you?

00:18:53.060 And what have you given back to the United States?

00:18:55.220 Because if this is the case, so for instance, with D'Souza, then I mean, your entire, you know, corpus of work has been nothing but, you know, you know, colorblind, you know, American classical liberal individualism for me.

00:19:09.140 But when it comes to the issues back in my homeland, then, you know, it's everything is far right as possible that serves my interest.

00:19:17.580 And we've seen this as well when, you know, prior to Trump getting, you know, inaugurated, there was a major clip going around on the headlines of a U.S. Navy recruiting center that was ran by, you know, Chinese Americans.

00:19:29.700 And I say that in quotation marks, where not a word of English was spoken in there.

00:19:33.060 It was all Mandarin. And it's just like, okay, on top of all this, we have numerous, you know, Chinese Americans or Chinese individuals who come in on student visas trying to perform, you know, agro-terrorism by bringing in blight and other kinds of fungi that could affect the American agricultural sector. 0.92

00:19:49.720 And it raises the uncomfortable question of like, okay, well, where do we draw the line on this?

00:19:54.120 Because, you know, if you're not afraid to be called a racist, then you should be prioritizing the national interest.

00:20:00.660 And that may mean coming at the exclusion of others.

00:20:03.460 And it's the same thing with our industry.

00:20:05.220 We have allowed corporations and others to outsource or allow them to be taken over through ethnic squabbles and ethnic in-group preference. 0.67

00:20:14.380 Where ethno-narcissism will get tens of thousands of Americans fired only for them to be offshored and sent to companies in India and other parts of Southeast Asia.

00:20:24.200 And I think that that is a damning indictment of our current economic system that we have allowed the, you know, claim or the facade of free market capitalism, of international trade and growth and what's good for the GDP to functionally allow the average American to be eaten alive by out-group ethno-narcissism and the lack of protection for American workers.

00:20:46.780 And if the administration was serious about that, they would listen to senators like Eric Schmidt of Missouri, and they would take heed to those that have been warning about this, like the Center for Integration Studies and others for the last several decades.

00:21:00.620 Absolutely.

00:21:01.540 And it's just impossible, again, to not notice that all of the staunchest and loudest proponents of H-1B labor tend to have a particular ethnic background. 0.57

00:21:12.560 And it's the same ethnic background that 71% of all H-1B applications approved come from.

00:21:19.960 It's India. 0.76

00:21:21.120 Now, I'm sure there are smart people in India, but there's no way that, you know, three quarters almost of all visas coming to the United States have to come from this one country because everyone there is just so smart.

00:21:34.300 Like, if everyone there was so great and such amazing workers, I imagine India would be a better place, right?

00:21:41.000 And this really draws in the questions about the propositional nation.

00:21:44.820 You know, can we have this idea of a propositional nation when the people who come in here and say they believe in a proposition, in the case of Vivek and Dinesh and, you know, Nikki Haley, constantly saying how important our proposition is, and this is what makes us who we are, and this is what binds us together.

00:22:01.060 Until you notice that actually the proposition means very little to them when kind of the, you know, everything hits the fan, when the chips are down, you know, it turns out that actually the proposition becomes second to kind of this ethnic loyalty.

00:22:15.600 And again, I don't necessarily blame people for having that impulse.

00:22:20.560 Like, that's a very natural impulse.

00:22:22.760 I get that.

00:22:23.920 But you can't sell me yourself as this MLK colorblind standard bearer of anti-racism in the United States and then flip a card and immediately become, like, the strongest soldiers for India's, you know, one billion people to come over in the United States.

00:22:40.860 There has to be a very clear delineation there.

00:22:45.220 You know, I can send a guy named Eisenhower to fight the Germans. 0.75

00:22:48.700 Like, that tells me something about his level of becoming assimilated.

00:22:54.240 Could I do the same thing with Dinesh?

00:22:56.140 Could I do the same thing with Nikki Haley?

00:22:59.060 I mean, I know she wants to fight every other war, but somehow I feel like if we came to blows with India, there might be a little more questions about where we're sending their troops. 0.97

00:23:06.340 So it just, you know, it's not just employment.

00:23:09.260 It becomes a larger question of social fabric.

00:23:11.520 Of course, you know, as you point out, her son, like, you know, there are immigrants who are radically pro the United States.

00:23:19.820 I've met them.

00:23:20.300 I've talked with them.

00:23:20.880 They are often our strongest soldiers because they're like, I came here to live among Americans.

00:23:25.000 And I want to be the very last person from my country to enter here so it doesn't become my country anymore. 1.00

00:23:33.000 I want to be in this country.

00:23:34.380 I want to be part of that.

00:23:35.480 But it's clearly not everyone.

00:23:37.560 It's maybe not even a majority.

00:23:39.600 And that is very dangerous when we're talking about bringing so many people in, especially from a specific area.

00:23:45.500 This is always the problem is it's the diaspora that's the issue. 1.00

00:23:48.340 You can probably assimilate one or two people from almost any country.

00:23:51.500 I mean, there are limits.

00:23:52.240 Don't get me wrong.

00:23:52.740 There are people who are just unassimilable, but, but, you know, you can probably bring in a few people from most countries and work them into the fabric.

00:24:00.520 But when you have large numbers of these people building out communities, I mean, you're in Texas.

00:24:05.580 You've been to the DFW.

00:24:07.240 You know what it looks like over there.

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00:24:36.620 These ethnic neighborhoods don't come apart.

00:24:42.620 And we've seen this, you know, they were, someone was just put out some, some data on the number of Muslim mosques that are being built in Texas.

00:24:51.340 Let me look that up actually real quick while we're talking about it because it's a shocking number.

00:24:55.080 But you just see the level of ethnic concentration that people have in these areas.

00:24:59.940 And it's insane.

00:25:01.180 So you can't bring in 71% of people through the H-1B program from one country and expect them to assimilate.

00:25:09.180 You're obviously building a beachhead of ethnic, you know, of ethnic enclaves in these areas where these people are going to be employed.

00:25:17.340 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:18.940 And I mean, we've seen this already happen in American, in major American cities where functionally the, you know, Raspail's number in the Camp of the Saints does not equate to any sort of the horrors that we have in places like Dearborn, Michigan.

00:25:31.780 Or, you know, we have a mayor reelect or reelected, a mayor elect, you know, Jacob Frey, who was famous for standing before the golden idol of a criminal's golden casket in 2020.

00:25:43.360 But he was basically thanking all of the, you know, Somalian clans or various ethnic, you know, groups or identities inside of Somalia that are now in the diaspora that got them elected.

00:25:54.040 And he leveraged that to win over a Somali-born immigrant, you know, Omar Fatah or however it's pronounced to, you know, basically have the white guy win, so to speak, over the very people that wanted to replace him with someone of their own.

00:26:08.240 And he only managed to get reelected because of taking advantage of the interscene squabbles with that diaspora group.

00:26:14.240 And we've already seen in places like Dearborn and other parts of Michigan where, you know, an all majority, a Muslim majority city council will tell a white person who has been there their whole life that they are not welcome in this city because they object to, you know, the five times a day Muslim prayer call to be used on public services.

00:26:31.140 So, and also I think with Texas, I think it's like 48 mosques in the last 24 months.

00:26:36.040 Yes, I look at, yes, 48 mosques in the last 24 months.

00:26:41.020 So you're getting, you're getting 24 mosques a year.

00:26:45.300 Yeah, absolute insanity.

00:26:47.400 And I think it's important because you had mentioned, you know, Eisenhower.

00:26:50.780 And then you had said, you know, well, we had a guy with a German last name go fight a war against the Germans.

00:26:54.620 Keep in mind in both world wars, World War I and World War II, there were some people from, you know, of German ancestry that went to go fight for the fatherland, but also at the same time, America functionally killed the ethnic identity or diaspora where the amount of German that was being spoken in the United States and the German language newspapers in places like the Midwest functionally died as the United States entered the war and anti-German sentiment rose because we took on the side of the alliance.

00:27:21.440 And it really does show that, like, that's kind of what it takes in order for that question of like, well, which side are you on to emerge?

00:27:29.640 And because the United States hasn't really engaged in a war in any major area outside of maybe the Middle East, and even then after America lost nearly 3,000 people after 9-11 and we killed, you know, countless thousands over there, and we lost thousands of our own men and women and thousands more to suicide and drugs after the conflict of our soldiers,

00:27:47.700 that we've only brought millions of more of those people in who share the same views that they had over there that America is the great Satan and they're, you know, willing to do whatever it takes.

00:27:58.440 And you see this in other places.

00:28:00.200 So, I mean, America is experiencing, I think it's, we're experiencing a very Anglo moment wherein we're witnessing sort of the level of subcontinental influence in conservative politics in the United States, similar to the Tories in the UK.

00:28:13.300 And we also had our own Sadiq Khan moment where the largest financial capital and sort of the city America is known for, New York, has been taken over by someone of, you know, immigrant and Muslim descent and is now, you know, leading the charge, you know, riding high on non-American votes or foreign-born Americans, paperwork Americans, just non-Americans voting. 0.94

00:28:36.180 And it's incredibly frustrating to witness this all take place.

00:28:40.760 And so for the administration to fumble on messaging is greatly disheartening.

00:28:44.500 And while, yes, we have to be reminded that there has been a lot of steps taken and Trump hasn't even been in office for a year,

00:28:50.600 and the big, beautiful bill for all of the hiring for ICE and DHS has yet to really come in with boots on the ground.

00:28:57.080 And as we, you know, record this, we're having raids in places like Charlotte, we're having raids in places like El Paso and across the other, you know, and across major metropolitan areas.

00:29:07.560 So, I mean, like, that's good.

00:29:09.120 But at the same time, the administration and really the American right and what's, you know, despite it, you know, fractured and it's fighting itself,

00:29:18.000 we all share a common enemy, which is the fact that there is a system in place, both that has been instituted by our government,

00:29:25.940 but also by large businesses, charities, and foreign dollars pouring in to advocate for the abolition of the American people and the American identity.

00:29:37.120 And as much as there is a claim that America is propositional, we are living in the consequence of what that proposition is.

00:29:43.280 Because, you know, as Tucker Carlson had told Ben Shapiro one time, there's no Nicene creed of capitalism.

00:29:49.420 There's certainly no Nicene creed of what it means to be an American outside of the oath you take at citizenship.

00:29:53.760 And if we were serious about that, you know, oath at citizenship and the ceremonies that people have when they're sworn in,

00:29:59.100 there's a lot of people who have violated that oath and should easily be deported and denaturalized and sent back to where they came from.

00:30:05.220 But it's a matter of political will.

00:30:07.100 And I understand that we can't have the system crash down on top of all of us.

00:30:10.380 But the basic question of, do you want America to survive in any historical form of what it once was,

00:30:17.260 is becoming increasingly difficult to answer or even accomplish.

00:30:21.540 Because, you know, at the same time that all this is happening, you know, we have allegedly conservative leadership,

00:30:28.460 for instance, Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, who had famously spent his time, you know, in India promoting a trade deal

00:30:34.700 and more investment into Texas from India, while his own, you know, base is being ethnically replaced for the sake of,

00:30:42.780 you know, greater investment, free trade and good for what's good for business and not what's good for people.

00:30:47.480 So to witness Dallas, this, you know, city that when I lived, I grew up overseas as an army brat.

00:30:52.900 Like when you said that you were from Texas, people would ask you about Dallas.

00:30:55.700 And then they would ask about the TV show Dallas, which is, of course, decades old at this point.

00:30:59.820 But it's kind of strange to think that, like, the Texas of that time frame of the TV show Dallas is all but gone.

00:31:06.540 And it looks more and more like San Francisco.

00:31:09.420 It looks more and more like Dearborn, Michigan, where there are more people on the islands and in the margins trying to panhandle for cash.

00:31:16.920 There are open little homeless encampments under every underpass across 75 and 35.

00:31:22.880 And it's really depressing to know that, like, this is like red state leadership at work.

00:31:27.140 And this is what's good for us.

00:31:28.200 And with conservatives like these, who needs liberals?

00:31:31.240 Yeah, for sure.

00:31:33.020 Well, let's talk about the next kind of leg of this H-1B coalition, which is Elon Musk,

00:31:39.280 who is famously, obviously, a partner in crime with Vivek in last year's H-1B raid.

00:31:45.820 And in the sequel, Elon was talking about how, well, there's just no one who will do physical work in the United States.

00:31:54.180 And that's a real problem.

00:31:55.240 There's just nobody who will do that work.

00:31:56.920 Now, first, I know it's an absolute lie because I grew up in a community where construction was critical and where lots of people,

00:32:05.160 many white Americans, were working on job sites on a regular basis.

00:32:10.020 You know, I I worked as, you know, doing roofing and these kind of things in the summer to pay for my, you know, for my college.

00:32:17.920 So there were plenty of people.

00:32:19.340 Don't get me wrong.

00:32:20.000 You know, there are plenty of people speaking Spanish on the job site, but plenty of people who weren't as well.

00:32:23.960 There are obviously plenty of Americans born in the United States who will do the job.

00:32:29.500 What Elon's really complaining about is he might have to pay some people more.

00:32:33.040 Right. And this is kind of an amazing thing.

00:32:35.100 Whenever I have this conversation, you know, people are like, well, I just can't get anyone to do it.

00:32:39.160 Have you raised wages?

00:32:40.560 Well, no, I can't do that.

00:32:43.060 Well, I got I had a clue as to what might be the issue here.

00:32:47.300 Like, I think I can figure this out.

00:32:49.040 Like, you want to pretend like you are supporting American industry, but you won't pay an American enough to support a kid or buy a home doing a backbreaking job in the sun.

00:33:01.700 All like when you're doing that kind of stuff, you have to be constant compensated for the wear on your body.

00:33:06.820 You know, this is not pushing papers in an office.

00:33:09.920 If you're on the top of a roof or you're lugging, you know, cement around or that kind of thing, tiles, that kind of stuff all day long.

00:33:16.900 It's going to break your body down.

00:33:18.280 You can't work.

00:33:19.240 You can't do the Ben Shapiro.

00:33:20.520 I'll never retire.

00:33:21.540 I'm working to 70.

00:33:22.660 Yeah, it's easy when you're behind a microphone.

00:33:24.560 Yeah, I probably won't retire from doing this intense labor that I'm doing right now.

00:33:28.580 I hopefully will be able to handle that until the Lord takes me away.

00:33:32.440 If I'm if I'm too physically disabled to do this, we've got much deeper problems.

00:33:37.320 But if I was a roofer, well, my time at work is shorter.

00:33:42.100 I'm trading equity in my body for this.

00:33:45.060 Now, the funny thing is the reason you don't get a lot of white guys in these professions at the entry level is they tend to ascend quickly.

00:33:53.140 They're the ones who end up owning the companies.

00:33:54.860 They're the ones who end up being managers.

00:33:56.420 They're the ones who end up being foremen.

00:33:57.720 They tend not to be the guys on the ground every day, but that's because they can speak English and they tend to be more adept at handling the more complicated aspects and they tend to rise to the ranks faster.

00:34:10.360 It's not that they didn't enter in at the bottom level.

00:34:13.600 And it's not that you couldn't get more of them to do it if you'd raise their pay.

00:34:16.140 But the smart money is, well, you don't haul tile, actually, your entire life.

00:34:20.560 You don't climb the ladder your entire life.

00:34:22.700 You do it for the first 10, 15 years.

00:34:24.960 You acquire the skill to run a crew and then you enter into management or you own your own business.

00:34:30.600 And that's kind of how you retire yourself out of that physical labor while still being inside the industry.

00:34:37.200 But that doesn't mean that there aren't people willing to do it, especially, again, if you actually paid people enough.

00:34:42.580 And this really is annoying with Elon because this is a guy, with all respect, who has spoken out bravely against ethnic replacement in places like the United Kingdom and even the United States. 0.75

00:34:55.200 He comes from South Africa.

00:34:56.940 He knows the consequences of making yourself a minority inside the country. 0.99

00:35:02.980 And yet, while he recognizes all these realities and will even speak about them passionately,

00:35:08.260 the minute it comes to affecting his bottom line or, you know, the ability of him to produce a product, all of a sudden those principles just melt away.

00:35:16.580 And this is really the money power problem.

00:35:18.940 Even though Elon knows, you know, just kind of through experience and academically, the impact of the policies he's talking about.

00:35:26.840 When it comes time for him to get his job done, he's just like, well, no, every sacrifice is worth it.

00:35:32.940 Of course, I need to bring people in, whoever I need, whatever I need.

00:35:35.960 I'm not going to, I'm not going to train Americans. 1.00

00:35:38.480 I'm not going to pay Americans because that would take time and money.

00:35:42.500 And I don't, I want to get everything done as efficiently as I can right now.

00:35:45.900 And so over and over again, despite accurately describing, and in many cases, heroically advocating on the part of native people in their own country to be able to work and live and have an identity.

00:35:57.660 Once brass tacks, once again, once the chips are on the table, we see that Elon will ultimately default back to this, you know, kind of oligarch, whatever, globalism, bring them in. 0.98

00:36:09.220 As long as it makes my project cheaper and makes it faster, whatever I need to do, damn the consequences.

00:36:14.460 Like that mentality just seems to reenter his thinking and there's, he doesn't seem to have any cognitive dissonance there, right? 0.97

00:36:20.880 He just is constantly sitting there saying, well, I don't see the difference.

00:36:24.740 In fact, he even, he got in an argument with a guy, a Roman, a anonymous account called, I think it's like the Roman helmet guy about, you know, why Rome fell.

00:36:34.640 And, you know, he said accurately, the, the, anon said, look, it fell not because just because of birth rates, but because ultimately it became foreign.

00:36:43.100 There were too many foreign people in his military and they were allowed in the borders and it lost its cohesion and identity. 1.00

00:36:49.700 And Elon's like, no, it's just the raw number of people.

00:36:52.620 And I understand he's can, you know, concerned about birth rates, but he has literally made the opposite argument.

00:36:57.680 Like it matters who's in your country.

00:36:59.820 It's not just the volume of human.

00:37:01.940 And it's not just the gross, you know, you know, number of living beings walking around in your country that makes it successful or not.

00:37:10.520 You have to have a particular people.

00:37:12.400 You have to have a particular identity.

00:37:14.240 You have to recognize yourself as a nation.

00:37:16.720 He, he gets that everywhere else.

00:37:18.180 But when it comes to his own business, all of a sudden he just crashes out on stuff like the H1Bs. 1.00

00:37:23.680 Yeah.

00:37:24.220 And I mean, it raises the uncomfortable question to where I think that there's going to be a serious economic realignment on these issues.

00:37:31.400 Where, and it's going to be the same thing that we saw in 2020 as well as in 2016, where there is a re-emphasis on economic populism.

00:37:40.820 How sound that can be for the current, you know, system of our government, our economy, you know, has, remains to be seen.

00:37:47.420 Because you've seen everyone from Bill Ackman to, you know, Bill Mitchell and others go out of their way.

00:37:54.540 And maybe Bill Mitchell could be wrong.

00:37:55.960 But going out of their way to say, well, he's wrong about everything.

00:37:58.860 Well, yeah.

00:37:59.340 So he's probably on that list too.

00:38:01.080 I try to be specific about who I'm calling out when they post tremendously bad things.

00:38:06.520 But regardless, we can all lump them in together.

00:38:08.160 Yeah.

00:38:08.300 Lindsey Graham's probably for it. 0.99

00:38:09.600 We can just kind of guess.

00:38:10.380 Yeah.

00:38:10.500 If Lindsey Graham's for it, we can also toss that aside. 0.95

00:38:12.300 Also, him doing the photo ops in the midst of all this terrible messaging has just been a bad omen in and of itself.

00:38:19.760 I just went golfing with President Trump.

00:38:21.260 Like, no, you stay away, Ladybug. 1.00

00:38:22.800 We don't need you. 0.64

00:38:23.820 Go away.

00:38:25.340 But nevertheless.

00:38:25.920 Chris Chan is upon him.

00:38:26.980 Yeah.

00:38:27.020 Yeah.

00:38:27.700 Maybe someone should send him like a Chris Chan medallion as a donation.

00:38:30.900 And this will all be over soon.

00:38:32.500 But until then, I think that the things that these people have claimed is like, if we were to end these programs, we'd fall behind in AI.

00:38:38.300 We'd fall behind and do this.

00:38:39.380 And it's just the majority of these visas are not towards America's tech dominance.

00:38:45.140 They're not.

00:38:46.260 We know this.

00:38:47.440 Data Republican has done an amazing amount of work where you can look up these H-1B visas and where they're going.

00:38:52.680 When everything from 7-Eleven to the janitor, you know, these sort of low-level, entry-level jobs that I would expect a 20-year-old college student to do to pay for his, like, his car or something.

00:39:05.140 And even me saying that is an outdated economic model because you can't really go and pay for your car that way because now everything's so over-financialized.

00:39:11.780 Our system has fundamentally prioritized everyone but the United States.

00:39:16.300 And so when everyone on this side of things has come out relatively united and said, the American economy serves everyone but America, and we should reorient our focus of putting Americans first, that's a good message.

00:39:31.860 I'm not concerned that AI is going to fall behind.

00:39:34.780 One, because the military is way too invested in that, and two, most of the H-1B visas and our best people that we invite over to come and work there are probably not the people I'm concerned about.

00:39:44.020 I will be if they start handing over that stuff to, you know, foreign countries and foreign powers, all the more reason to have, you know, a greater, you know, security look at all those issues.

00:39:53.420 But everyone is focused on the fact that even the lowest-level jobs or even the entry-level positions, when you've lost Fox News to say that, like, 80% of these jobs are going to middle management or entry or lower-level employment jobs, then we have fundamentally screwed the American people over.

00:40:13.340 And for someone like Elon Musk, who has been around on this earth long enough to know what South Africa looked like before the Rainbow Nation took over, then he should have a pretty good idea that if that happens to the United States, if that happens to the one place that has been the most gracious host for him, he could show a little gratitude. 0.99

00:40:32.680 And unfortunately, there's not one person in government, it seems right now, who wants to make that point.

00:40:37.400 You are a guest that does not permit you to walk all over the people who have fought and bled and lived here before you got here.

00:40:46.140 The people who have witnessed their homes get overpriced or they can no longer afford property taxes because we're building a new tech center.

00:40:54.500 We're building new housing because the cities have gotten so expensive because we keep bringing more people in.

00:40:59.940 You mentioned the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.

00:41:01.620 That's a really good example.

00:41:03.040 The roads are always under construction.

00:41:04.660 It's just like someone who is an addict where it's just like, if I have one more lane, all of my infrastructure problems will be fixed.

00:41:11.560 No, they won't because the city has an infrastructure for a city that has way too many millions of people that are there for what we have.

00:41:18.900 Now, that could be fixed, obviously, but it does come to show that between bringing people in from California, which is fine, they usually vote conservative.

00:41:25.640 They helped Ted Cruz get reelected in 2018, that we have prioritized everyone but the United States.

00:41:31.640 And at this point, I think that the voter base, the 70-some-odd million Americans that had voted for him, are ready to see these issues actually addressed.

00:41:41.560 Because if not, all that we're going to see are more ordeals of civility over the subcontinent, we're going to see more intellectual property theft be taken over to foreign competitors, and we are going to watch the Republican Party, which has always been a beautiful loser, but be even more of a beautiful loser as it helps sell the country away through the Great Replacement under the guise of free trade, economic growth, and an increase to the American GDP in consumer purchasing power.

00:42:07.580 Yeah, I just feel like we deserve a better quality of, you know, Gilded Age robber barons.

00:42:16.780 You know, like, Carnegie was born in Scotland, I'm pretty sure, and, you know, he came over, and then, yes, he made a ton of money.

00:42:24.380 People might have issues with how he did that, but ultimately, he ended up plowing, you know, just infinite amount of his own cash back into the country, building schools, building libraries, building churches,

00:42:35.660 building all these institutions. Now, sadly, you know, his fortune haunts us like a ghost moving across the graveyard in the Carnegie Foundation, but, you know, Ford Foundation, many such cases.

00:42:47.600 The point is, ultimately, you know, we used to have this understanding where even if a billionaire came from somewhere else, they understood that they had made their money on the backs of the American people,

00:42:58.500 and now they owed them something. They were going to reinvest in those people, and Musk just seems fundamentally to not care in that way.

00:43:06.760 But speaking of people who are ungrateful to the United States, Vivek Ramaswamy is currently falling behind in his race for the Ohio governorship.

00:43:17.160 Now, Ohio is a state that the Republicans should win walking away, and now Vivek is there, and, of course, Vivek has kept all of the positions he had previously,

00:43:29.380 all the, like, mainstream conservative, you know, type positions, talk radio conservative positions you would have expected from kind of an economic, you know, conservative 10 years ago.

00:43:41.600 And he has, despite speaking the language that a lot of kind of, like, boomers speak on this issue, he's managed to lose a large amount of support.

00:43:50.660 And one of the things that they're really hitting him on is the fact that he insulted Americans.

00:43:55.780 His opponent, is it Amy Acton, she was actually directly hitting him from the right on this issue, saying, 0.99

00:44:02.700 you said Americans aren't talented, you said Americans are lazy, you said our culture sucks. 0.96

00:44:07.340 Like, she's all but saying, hey, you know, we're going to, we're, we're, we're deporting you, didn't need to naturalize. 0.99

00:44:12.940 And, like, she's, she's one step away from that.

00:44:15.540 So when your own, when, when, when Democrats are outflanking you on immigration, because you're so weak and so obvious on this,

00:44:23.160 it's funny because a lot of, you know, again, a lot of boomers were really excited about Vivek.

00:44:27.220 He says all the right things.

00:44:28.320 He wants to end all these taxes and regulations.

00:44:30.780 And don't we love that, folks?

00:44:32.180 And all, you know, you and me were just kind of doing the, you know, breaking bad, screaming in the car meme.

00:44:37.180 Like, just, no, don't, don't do this.

00:44:39.800 You don't understand.

00:44:40.800 Like, I understand.

00:44:41.660 You're blind to what's happening here, but it's going to be bad.

00:44:44.080 And now they put him in this position that should have been a shoe in, right?

00:44:47.980 And he is blowing the lead.

00:44:49.420 Like, he's falling behind a Democrat in this scenario, specifically because she's hitting him on the H-1B issue, on the immigration issue.

00:44:57.020 And if Republicans can't put people in who are good on this issue, if they can't win on the marquee issue of the MAGA coalition, then what are we doing here?

00:45:07.240 Like, this is just kind of insane.

00:45:08.920 Like, at some point, you have to recognize it's not just about his bromides of talking about the free market.

00:45:14.660 Vivek is a bad candidate because he doesn't like Americans, and it's obvious.

00:45:18.360 And even a Democrat is willing to exploit that when it comes down to the race.

00:45:21.940 Yeah, and this is going to be the strategy, I think, that a lot of Democrats will take advantage of.

00:45:29.260 Because while they've clearly ignored their whole ability to take the plank out of their own eye, you know, that conversation about how do we win young men back, like, they're probably going to have a way to do so through calling out immigration.

00:45:40.840 Because, I mean, let's be very clear.

00:45:43.800 Amy Acton is going to say these things.

00:45:45.740 If she gets elected, it does not matter.

00:45:47.740 She will say the right things to win it, and then she will vote to the left of Mao, Stalin, and everyone else, just like a good Democrat will.

00:45:56.460 So, for all intents and purposes, Amy Acton is lying to you, and she is doing this for the campaign.

00:46:02.360 Is it rhetorically smart?

00:46:03.660 Absolutely.

00:46:04.420 But reminder, she's a leftist. 1.00

00:46:06.080 She will run Ohio into the ground if she's elected. 1.00

00:46:08.500 Same could probably be said for Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:46:10.400 And it is just as tragic that the Republican Party and the Trump and the GOP and the TPUSA chapter in Ohio have gone behind him, and there's not someone who can, you know, better represent Ohio to take the place.

00:46:23.680 And when he announced that he was running or that people wanted to take J.D. Vance's Senate spot, who should go?

00:46:29.400 I had argued with individuals like Jeremy Carl, who's a great friend to both of us and a great friend to the administration, that, you know, maybe we shouldn't have Vivek in there.

00:46:38.020 And this would not be in our interest, either for the Senate seat or for the governorship.

00:46:41.760 And unfortunately, this is where we're at.

00:46:44.400 And the GOP has a really nasty tendency to go for, and this is why they're such beautiful losers, because they will pursue diversity, equity, and inclusion for everyone but their voter base.

00:46:56.500 We saw this in the 2020 special elections in the Senate, where we thought, hey, let's have this guy go in there.

00:47:03.160 We saw this in, I think it was in North Carolina, against Roy Cooper, the African-American gentleman who had sort of a crazy online history that makes me blush, and that's saying something. 1.00

00:47:13.880 And also, of course, most recently with the election in Virginia for the gubernatorial election, that we had someone who was so, just this, you know, wonderful, for lack of better terms, the diversity hire of a candidate,

00:47:27.380 talking about, you know, Juneteenth and things like that on her Twitter timeline, that she didn't really speak to the issues that mattered to Virginians in the way that got Glenn Youngkin elected the first time.

00:47:36.980 And so it really does come to show that the Republican Party will target and go for anyone but the kind of people that would actually stand up for American interests.

00:47:47.020 We need more, you know, Eric Schmitz in the Senate and in every governor, you know, mansion in America than I do anyone like Vivek Ramaswamy or Amy Acton or even Greg Abbott, for that matter.

00:48:02.360 And so, and Greg Abbott's just recently run or announced his desire to run for another term.

00:48:06.740 So I certainly hope that he is primaried from the right.

00:48:08.660 But it does go to show that the Republican Party will happily sacrifice its base and its own nation on the altar of diversity and looking good to win these cool points for left wing and liberal approval than it is to stand up for the people that have been torn apart by fentanyl,

00:48:30.660 that has been made overseas and brought in through drug cartels in the United States, that has watched its manufacturing centers become completely de-industrialized and to where,

00:48:41.120 and I don't know how this is relatable for you, Oren, but I've been to too many funerals in my lifetime and I turn 30 next month.

00:48:46.700 And it's incredibly frustrating to know that, you know, America has been effectively hollowed out, not just by drugs, but by international trade.

00:48:53.600 And that this is what I'm told to vote for is someone that is just the same guy on the other side of the ticket who just says the right things and basically has the Black Rifle coffee brand of conservatism and doesn't actually stand for what America needs at the moment.

00:49:08.940 And I think that that's really the big frustrating part about this entire messaging and media fumble is,

00:49:15.160 is that all of the goodwill and all of the good things that the administration has done in a very short amount of time has been sort of left to squander when their best advocate and interlocutor was shot in cold blood in open daylight for all of us to see.

00:49:31.000 There are still numerous questions about what the FBI has done.

00:49:33.960 And let's not even forget that the president had, you know, two assassination attempts on him in last year.

00:49:38.940 And so I think that it becomes really important that for all these fights and squabbles that people want to have over the Heritage Foundation or Tucker Carlson or all these inquisitions over, you know,

00:49:49.800 is my Christianity going to be a problem in the Republican or right wing think tank sphere that there are much bigger issues at hand.

00:49:56.760 And it is about the X, you know, the existential crisis of whether or not America, as we know, it gets to survive.

00:50:03.280 Pat Buchanan was a prophet when he said, will America survive to 2025?

00:50:07.040 I don't know.

00:50:07.720 We've got a little more than a month and a half to go, and I guess we'll find out.

00:50:11.860 But a lot of work needs to be done.

00:50:14.060 Yeah, getting right over that finish line.

00:50:16.680 All right, guys.

00:50:17.300 Well, we're going to go ahead and wrap it up here.

00:50:18.840 But it's always a pleasure to host the Prudentialist.

00:50:21.280 Now, this is a prerecorded episode today, so we can't take any super chats.

00:50:26.140 Very sorry about that.

00:50:27.360 But Prudentialist, can you tell me or tell the people where to find your great work?

00:50:32.540 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:50:33.200 Oren, thank you so much for having the time to record with me.

00:50:36.720 I know with our schedules, it's not as easy as it used to be.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - November 21, 2025

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