The Auron MacIntyre Show - December 04, 2025


HOAs as an Artificial High-Trust Society ｜ 12⧸4⧸25

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Auron MacIntyre
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Length

9 minutes

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Word count

1,454

Sentence count

97

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Every year, more and more people fight for the honor of purchasing homes inside of an HOA. The reason is simple. The HOA has become the only way to artificially recreate something that we lost: a high-trust society. Everyone wants to live in a neighborhood where the streets are safe, the houses are well maintained, and their neighbors are well-mannered. We call areas like these high trust because you don t have to worry about those around you taking advantage or violating basic rules of conduct.

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00:00:30.000 Beginning in the 1960s, homeowners associations have exploded in popularity across the United States.
00:00:37.160 That's not to say that anyone would describe their homeowners association as popular, though.
00:00:42.440 The nightmare stories of busybody neighbors enforcing ridiculously specific regulations are legendary.
00:00:48.960 But despite their reputation for domestic tyranny, every year more and more people fight for the honor of purchasing homes inside of an HOA.
00:00:57.120 The reason is simple.
00:00:58.900 The HOA has become the only way to artificially recreate something that we lost.
00:01:03.980 A high-trust society.
00:01:06.400 Everyone wants to live in a neighborhood where the streets are safe, the houses are well-maintained, and their neighbors are well-mannered.
00:01:12.900 We call areas like these high-trust because you don't have to worry about those around you taking advantage or violating basic rules of conduct.
00:01:21.460 Doors are left unlocked, children play in the streets, and home values rise.
00:01:25.700 Most Americans once assumed that this was just the common state of a normal neighborhood.
00:01:31.240 But there's nothing common about it.
00:01:33.580 High-trust societies aren't an accident, and they're not normal, though they can arise spontaneously under certain conditions.
00:01:41.020 Trust is created when people feel like they can understand and predict the actions of the people around them.
00:01:46.540 This requires a shared cultural understanding of standards, how one conducts themselves, and how they maintain the property around them.
00:01:54.700 When the same standards are understood and upheld by the community because they are second nature for the residents, very little enforcement is required.
00:02:03.660 The people feel free, not because they can just do whatever they want, but because they are living in accordance with their own way of being.
00:02:09.780 The limitations they place on themselves feel natural to them and those around them.
00:02:15.320 Every social order requires maintenance, but when most people already feel naturally inclined towards the same standard, the degree of necessary intervention is low.
00:02:25.280 When most people in the neighborhood share the same standard of home maintenance,
00:02:28.700 a disapproving look from Mrs. Smith over your unmowed lawn will shame you into action.
00:02:34.580 If the entire neighborhood expects to have peaceful, quiet nights, but you decide to have loud parties until 1 a.m.,
00:02:40.260 you're going to stop getting invites to the neighborhood cookout or social event until that behavior gets corrected.
00:02:46.800 No one needs to call the cops or appeal to a higher authority.
00:02:50.240 The neighborhood polices itself through mutual expectations.
00:02:53.380 There are several preconditions required to make this level of social coordination possible.
00:02:59.600 Everyone needs to have similar expectations of behavior so violations are self-evident.
00:03:05.460 If people in the neighborhood disagree wildly over acceptable lawn care, level of noise, and number of cars you can park on the lawn,
00:03:12.760 it becomes difficult to navigate what should be acceptable and what shouldn't.
00:03:17.300 People also need to feel comfortable approaching their neighbors to discuss these violations.
00:03:22.120 Residents can't express their concerns if they're worried that the person in question will react disproportionately,
00:03:29.980 violently, or will attempt to smear them personally for raising the issue.
00:03:35.040 Finally, neighbors need to care enough about their social standing inside the community to take the correction of their fellow residents.
00:03:43.540 If peer pressure isn't enough to correct bad behavior, then standards will decline.
00:03:48.820 As New York City discovered, with policing, every broken window invites the next rock to be thrown.
00:03:55.840 American government and culture have declared war on every one of the conditions that make high-trust societies possible for the last 60 years.
00:04:04.800 Academics and media personalities have created a stigma around culturally homogenous neighborhoods,
00:04:11.000 and the government has worked to make them all but illegal.
00:04:14.060 Concerns about charges of racism, sexism, and homophobia keep neighbors from providing the subtle correction that helps to self-police behavior.
00:04:24.160 The network of mothers that once watched over children at play in the streets is gone,
00:04:29.160 as women now head into their corporate offices instead. 1.00
00:04:33.040 As the work of Robert Putnam has shown,
00:04:34.960 the more diverse a society becomes, the more social trust deteriorates. 1.00
00:04:39.960 Residents retreat into their homes and watch television instead of joining the neighborhood watch or cookout.
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00:05:16.740 The HOA is an attempt to reconstruct high-trust society under the restrictions imposed by modern American culture and law.
00:05:25.200 Ownership, maintenance, and conduct are all stipulated under legal contracts
00:05:29.580 instead of organic cultural consensus.
00:05:33.300 No matter how different the expectations or beliefs of the residents might be,
00:05:37.920 they're bound by law to specific codes of behavior.
00:05:41.640 A formalized association board replaces the disapproving gaze of Mrs. Smith,
00:05:46.860 capable of leveling fines and legal action should even the tiniest detail of the agreement be violated.
00:05:53.660 The watchful eye of the neighborhood moms is replaced with gates and walls. 0.99
00:05:58.060 The order that was achieved through shared culture and community is now imposed top-down
00:06:04.160 through constant petty abuse of legal contracts.
00:06:08.440 With home prices skyrocketing and families investing significantly more of their net worth into their residents,
00:06:15.380 people are far less likely to take a gamble on the value of their home declining because the neighborhood went south.
00:06:22.000 Everyone complains about how horrible HOAs are,
00:06:26.180 but they've become the only legal solution to a social coordination problem
00:06:30.800 that will destroy the equity in your home, which is your most valuable asset.
00:06:36.120 Homebuyers voluntarily enter into a hostile and artificial social arrangement
00:06:41.160 where neighbors are possible informants and tattletales instead of community partners
00:06:46.300 because the alternative is total chaos.
00:06:49.320 Hopefully, it's become clear that this analysis of the HOA is not simply about the frustrations
00:06:56.320 of navigating suburban social situations.
00:06:59.840 The attempt to create a trustless system which mirrors the benefits of real community
00:07:05.280 also applies to our larger body politic.
00:07:09.080 As cultural diversity increases,
00:07:10.880 the ability of those living under the rule of the state to come to a democratic consensus decreases rapidly.
00:07:17.820 To recreate the organic order generated by cultural consensus,
00:07:23.040 an increasing portion of human interaction must be brought under the formalized judgment of a separate authority.
00:07:30.500 In this case, the judgment of the state.
00:07:33.740 As society becomes more litigious, relying on contracts and coercion,
00:07:38.760 the virtue of the people declines.
00:07:41.620 No one understands how to build trust with their neighbors.
00:07:44.240 They just call the authorities to report violations.
00:07:48.320 The HOA problem is not really about homeownership or real estate prices.
00:07:53.420 It speaks volumes about how we have radically changed the organization of our own society.
00:07:59.240 Authoritarian government arises in multicultural societies for the same reason that the HOA does.
00:08:06.020 Because people have become so different.
00:08:08.460 Cultures have become so diverse.
00:08:10.300 The words, the languages, the traditions and backgrounds that we use to speak with each other
00:08:16.100 have become so muddled that there is no way for us to organically come to an understanding.
00:08:22.500 And when that's the case, the only thing you can do is to invest power in the hands of overarching authorities
00:08:29.180 that will eventually be able to pull these disparate groups together.
00:08:33.120 Whether that be the petty tyrant of the HOA board or the larger tyrant running the state.
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