The Auron MacIntyre Show - How a Constitution Dies

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00:00:30.000 Hey, everybody. How's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:36.360 Unfortunately, we have yet another leftist death threat towards a conservative commentator. This

00:00:42.140 time, Benny Johnson and his wife are threatened by a progressive lunatic saying that they didn't like

00:00:47.800 their politics and wanted them dead. Luckily, the suspect is facing charges. The authorities are

00:00:54.160 swinging into action on this one. But we see that the left's continued obsession with violence

00:01:00.660 is only increasing, which means that we have more and more questions about the state of our country.

00:01:06.460 We have left-wingers who are constantly looking to attack ICE agents, threaten different conservatives,

00:01:14.920 assassinate conservative activists and politicians. This is an epidemic on the left. And it's very clear

00:01:21.220 that the American left has no interest in taking ownership over this. Not only are they not taking

00:01:26.380 responsibility, they are casting any action to try to prevent their violence as some kind of

00:01:33.080 totalitarian, authoritarian, fascist dictatorship, which is, of course, what is spawning this violence

00:01:38.820 in the first place. And so what we have is an acceleration loop where every time the left gets more violent,

00:01:45.080 they act more and more like a victim in need of some kind of revolution to stop the evil fascists,

00:01:51.240 which encourages more and more people to take up arms against conservatives who are in no way acting

00:01:56.140 in the manner that are that is described and yet are now painted as some kind of Hitlerian figure that

00:02:01.420 must be dealt with violently. This really asks the question, what do we do here in this constitutional

00:02:08.600 crisis when progressives aren't just avoiding taking responsibility for what is clearly a violent

00:02:16.260 epidemic on their side? But we see some some leftist politicians even protecting people, protecting

00:02:23.420 Antifa, protecting illegals, trying to stop ICE from doing its job inside the United States, abandoning

00:02:31.080 support or in some cases, it seems actively aiding and abetting the crimes of people inside their

00:02:37.760 states just to try to poke Donald Trump in the eye. When you have this level of outright sedition and

00:02:45.800 rebellion, what's the right move? We have governors who have spent their entire lives cheering on Abraham

00:02:53.280 Lincoln and the Civil War and, you know, JFK and Eisenhower sending in, you know, the National Guard to

00:03:01.540 force through integration, all these other things. Now they're turning around saying, actually, no, we love

00:03:06.280 states' rights. States should be able to refuse federal law enforcement whenever we want. In fact,

00:03:11.740 we're going to set up situations that are far more dangerous for ICE agents, make them vulnerable to

00:03:17.280 assault, to assassination, just so that we can try to make some kind of point and force our sanctuary

00:03:23.120 cities, which are in no way sovereign, have no ability to refuse federal government orders, and yet somehow

00:03:28.720 stand in direct opposition to federal law and expect to face zero consequences. Now, the good news is

00:03:36.180 that the Trump administration, in many ways, is fighting back against this. We're seeing the

00:03:39.700 National Guard deployed, whether these people like it or not. In many situations, we see that they are

00:03:45.040 moving on organizations like Antifa. We saw the Antifa Roundtable, Trump saying that he would declare

00:03:50.780 them a foreign terror organization. We see strong statements, at least from people like Pam Bondi and

00:03:56.820 Pat Cash-Patel, but unfortunately, we've seen strong statements from these people before. What we need is

00:04:02.600 action. We're seeing some level of action now. We are seeing ICE agents be more aggressive with

00:04:07.700 their arrests, especially when protesters start crossing the line, which is pretty much every

00:04:11.960 time they're involved at this point. We should be seeing more of that, but at least we are seeing

00:04:16.680 some action taken in that area. But today, I'm just going to talk about the actions that need to be

00:04:22.580 taken. We've talked about that before. I want to talk about the larger impact this is having on the

00:04:27.540 idea of a constitutional order. Now, I think ultimately, we have to recognize that the very

00:04:34.140 real question of can we bring ourselves back under constitutional rule is something that we have to

00:04:40.380 address very quickly, because if we don't, things are going to continue to spin out of control, and

00:04:46.000 we're not going to understand what happened here. If there's a path back, and that might be a real

00:04:50.940 question mark, it has to begin now. There's no way we can put this off. And so it's critical to

00:04:56.480 understand the nature of constitutions, what has happened in our current paradigm, why the

00:05:02.500 constitution is no longer seemingly enforced, and if there's anything we can do to fix that,

00:05:08.840 or if ultimately we have to find another way through this challenging time. Now, I've talked about a lot

00:05:15.200 of this stuff in different places, but I don't think I've ever brought it all together in one video or

00:05:20.640 discussion before. So that's what I want to do today. I'll be pulling some stuff that you guys have

00:05:24.340 heard before. I'll be pulling some stuff that I've said on other interviews, things that you probably

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00:06:33.760 All right, guys. So like I said, obviously, we know that the political temperature is rising and

00:06:40.460 shows no signs of stopping. The left was entirely lying when they said they wanted to dial anything

00:06:46.660 down, anything back. They were just trying to avoid the consequences of their actions. And that's

00:06:50.980 become clear, not just because so many of them celebrated Charlie Kirk's death, but even those

00:06:55.960 that were a little more moderate about that, that knew that they had to say the right thing,

00:06:59.880 put on a good face. They only made it a few weeks before they went right back to demonizing him,

00:07:05.620 this dead man who was shot in front of his children. They don't care, and they're not

00:07:11.620 taking any responsibility. There's no reflection here. There's not, oh, how have my actions led us

00:07:17.420 to this position, right? And not only were we not seeing that, we're seeing more and more leftists

00:07:22.740 feel emboldened to come out and dial up their rhetoric. We continue to see people like Ilhan Omar

00:07:29.100 and AOC and Ta-Nehisi Coates say, yeah, no, of course he was a fascist. Now, we would never

00:07:34.780 say he should be shot, but yeah, of course he was. And yeah, you can shoot fascists, but we didn't

00:07:40.180 say directly you could shoot Charlie Kirk. We put like a pause between two sentences that clearly say

00:07:46.340 you can shoot Charlie Kirk. So it's different. See, if we put a little pause, if one guy says,

00:07:51.360 you can kill fascists, wait, wait, wait. And then another guy says, Charlie Kirk is a fascist.

00:07:58.700 See, technically no one person said, go kill Charlie Kirk, but they are saying that, right? Like

00:08:06.120 you have to be like a slack-jawed idiot to believe anything other than the fact that they are very

00:08:12.620 aware of the fact that they are calling for the death of conservatives. And again, we see another

00:08:17.340 conservative commentator, in this case, Benny Johnson, someone who is critical in getting

00:08:21.460 Jimmy Kimmel's original cancellation from ABC. All of a sudden, he's receiving death threats at his

00:08:27.880 house, his wife, his children. Don't forget, in the same line, we had a terrorist attack from a leftist

00:08:34.140 on an ABC news station after several received death threats. And that's why Jimmy Kimmel was put back

00:08:40.400 on the air. Terrorism is working in the United States. And because terrorism is working in the United

00:08:45.380 States, more leftists want to commit acts of terror. And not only is it working, not only are they

00:08:51.020 getting their way and facing very little consequence, but on top of this, the fact that the left is now

00:08:58.220 basically deploying anarcho-tyranny to make sure that there is an inability of federal law enforcement

00:09:05.460 to do their job, to stop illegal immigration, to stop the terror attacks on ICE agents who are trying

00:09:10.660 to stop illegal immigration. We have different Democratic governors and mayors actively trying

00:09:19.660 to stop the government from enforcing law saying, we will fight back. We will stop you. Those are

00:09:27.040 civil war words. When a governor of a state, when a mayor of a city who commands a police force or

00:09:34.720 commands other armed officers says, we are going to stop you from doing your job as a federal government

00:09:42.520 by any means necessary with whatever we have, we're going to organize to stop you.

00:09:49.760 Like those things get dangerous, right? These are, these are not small words. We're not, we're not there

00:09:56.000 yet, but these are dangerous precedents to allow. And in this moment, you have to start asking,

00:10:01.500 how did we get here? Why isn't the constitution stopping this? Right. And I feel like I'm in many

00:10:10.960 ways, I feel like I'm back during COVID, right? Where I was looking around saying, we shut the

00:10:17.920 churches down. We're throwing people in jail for singing hymns. We're trying to force a dangerous

00:10:24.460 experimental treatment on people. We're closing down businesses. We're allowing people to riot in the

00:10:31.360 streets and nobody's doing anything. And everyone's acting like it's fine. Everyone's like, well,

00:10:36.280 yeah, I just, sorry. I mean, I know that's important, but like, I got to watch football

00:10:40.060 or like, we got, we got a, a, a build pass, some other, you know, it's really important.

00:10:47.920 Like, no, this is the most important thing in the world right now. And it feels like very few people

00:10:52.840 are taking it very seriously, even though all the evidence is showing that we're heading to a very bad

00:10:58.560 place. And again, much like COVID, you have to ask, why didn't the constitution prevent this?

00:11:07.400 Why are we in the scenario we are now where leftists are just committing acts of terror and

00:11:13.080 violence, expecting no penalty where governors and, and, and mayors are just ignoring the law,

00:11:22.140 the immigration laws of the United States actively working against federal agents to maintain,

00:11:27.760 to keep illegals, violent illegals in the country. I mean, that can't be something that's allowed

00:11:36.800 under the constitution, right? I'm pretty sure I've seen that at least, at least after, uh, you know,

00:11:43.540 1865 that you don't have that option. I think we, we kind of had a, a knockdown drag out on whether

00:11:49.560 or not States had the option to do this. It doesn't matter which side you're on of that issue.

00:11:54.540 Obviously we have established the precedent that that's just not the case and went to war over it.

00:12:00.020 So obviously the left can't do it now, except they seem to be again, with very little cost to them.

00:12:07.900 And so, like I said, I wanted to bring all these aspects of the constitution together

00:12:13.620 because oftentimes I hear people have to say like, Oh, I hate the constitution.

00:12:18.220 Orrin hates the constitution. Woke right guy hates the constitution. And this is of course

00:12:21.940 a lie and stupid, but these are the kinds of people who make that kind of charge. So no surprise

00:12:26.300 there. I'm not trying to convince them. They don't believe any facts. It's all just a straw man for

00:12:32.540 them so they can go smearing people. But since I don't actually hate the constitution, I want to

00:12:38.280 explain what the problem is. Did we fail the constitution? Did the constitution fail? What happened

00:12:43.360 here? How did we get here? What's going on? Right? So first we need to talk about the nature

00:12:48.740 of constitutions. As I've said before, a lot of people look at the constitution in a very modern

00:12:56.580 way, a very progressive way, as some kind of incredible enlightenment piece of political

00:13:03.420 technology. Like before the American constitution, constitutions didn't really exist. And once they

00:13:09.980 wrote the constitution, they got it just right. And because they got it just right, because they

00:13:14.240 were so careful about all these different mechanical aspects of ruling the government,

00:13:19.600 basically history is over and government is solved. And we had the final form of government

00:13:25.120 that anyone ever have. And because we have this beautiful system in place, the average person

00:13:32.720 doesn't really need to think much about who's wielding power, right? We, we shouldn't talk about

00:13:38.340 power. In fact, that's something, again, these same people who attack me for talking about the

00:13:42.620 constitution at all will say, Orrin, you can't talk about power. We don't talk about power. Power is a

00:13:46.760 dirty word. That's for the, that's for the leftists that keep winning and throwing us in jail and planning

00:13:52.660 to kill us. Now power's for them. Power's not for you. Power's not for us. Our job is to trust the

00:13:59.880 system. The system will take care of it. Now the founders never said any of that. That is not what the

00:14:07.600 founders believed about constitutions, not how they believed governments worked, but certainly

00:14:13.320 not how they believe power works. And all you have to do is read a federalist paper to figure that

00:14:18.340 out. And yet for some reason, people get really self-righteous and pretend like they somehow

00:14:23.760 channeled like the true essence of Madison and Jefferson. And they really know how the government

00:14:30.420 is supposed to be framed, even though that's not what the founders believed at all. And so it's really

00:14:35.040 important for conservatives to just never think about power ever because then the system will be

00:14:41.380 fine. The constitution will be safe. Somehow it's just thinking about power itself that like stops the

00:14:46.660 constitution from doing its magic. But of course, that's not the case because we don't know there is

00:14:52.560 no neutral institution. You can't just leave the system alone and expect it to run itself.

00:14:58.780 The system is not some autonomous actor that is incredibly objective and operates on some kind of

00:15:05.980 outside unseen matrix that allows it to determine the truth all the time and the equal application

00:15:12.440 all the time. And it can never be sullied by human hands or human desire. That's not true at all. And we

00:15:18.780 all saw this again during something like COVID where institutions that were supposed to be neutral,

00:15:23.700 like the education system or the medical system or the police or the military or any of these

00:15:29.420 things. It became very clear that actually they're not neutral at all. That every one of these

00:15:34.700 institutions operates on some kind of incentive structure, some kind of morality, some kind of

00:15:41.040 ideology. There's going to be some value system, some ordering of priorities that is going to work

00:15:48.680 behind the scenes in every one of these organizations. And if we just close our eyes to

00:15:54.140 that and say, no, the constitution's got a baby. Don't got to worry about that. But not only are we

00:15:59.880 being stupid, not only are we ignoring what the founders ourselves told us about the nature of the

00:16:05.460 constitution. We're also just handing over our responsibility as citizens of a republic, which is

00:16:15.380 what we're supposed to be, right? To a bunch of people who are going to use that power, who are going

00:16:21.280 to crush us with it because they see us as the enemy. They don't see us as fellow citizens. They don't

00:16:27.320 see us as people with whom they share the rule of the country. They see us as, at best, as subjects

00:16:33.540 and at worst, as direct hostile actors to their program. And so if we just say, well, the constitution's

00:16:41.080 got it, don't worry about it. Then we're going to be ruled by truly evil people. And there's no

00:16:48.260 principle that says you must be ruled by evil people in your own nation. That's just not the

00:16:57.100 way it works. If you are part of the nation, if you are someone who has a valid claim on the nation,

00:17:05.660 then you shouldn't have to be ruled by people who hate your nation and are trying to destroy it.

00:17:11.660 That makes zero sense. So it's a lot easier for conservatives to just pretend that we aren't

00:17:21.320 ruled, that there is no power, that the mechanisms of the constitution have bound power permanently

00:17:27.660 than it is to take ownership and say, actually, no, what the real founder said, the actual words the

00:17:34.640 founder said, is it's our job to bind power. And we bind it by being involved, by exercising

00:17:42.520 competing interest in power, competing spheres of power. If we simply allow the left to own all the

00:17:51.060 power or have all the desire for power or do all the wielding of power, and then just go,

00:17:56.040 tut, tut, nope, I saw it on a piece of paper, you can't do that.

00:17:58.900 We're violating what the founder said. You're not upholding the founder's principles by saying,

00:18:07.180 oh, no, we don't talk about power. Only the left gets to talk about power. No,

00:18:12.600 that is not what the founder said. That's not what they required of you. That is not their values.

00:18:16.140 Okay. That is your dumb, controlled opposition, modern, completely toothless, completely gutless,

00:18:24.280 you know, strongly worded letter conservatism showing up and allows people to sit around and grill

00:18:30.560 and feel good about it because ultimately, well, you know, country's just kind of on autopilot. We

00:18:36.940 don't really have to worry about it. Every once in a while, we'll grumble about, I've got the second

00:18:40.780 amendment. If anything really goes bad, I got it covered. Look guys, I'm a big second amendment

00:18:44.560 supporter. Don't get me wrong. But after COVID, it got real clear. Second amendment's not saving us

00:18:50.720 from anything. All these guys talking about how they'd 1776. No, not really. Nope. So I'm sorry,

00:18:59.240 but this like hypothetical firewall of the second amendment, which again, I'd rather have it than

00:19:05.480 not. Don't get me wrong. But the idea that this in and of itself is protecting us from the government

00:19:11.620 going overboard is just clearly untrue in every way, shape and form. So we need to figure out

00:19:17.400 what is the nature of the constitution? Why, why, why do we have these terrible beliefs about

00:19:23.020 constitutions and how they work? So if you've been on this channel before, you know that I draw

00:19:29.940 heavily on a guy named Joseph de Maistre in this area. He wrote a book called the gender of nature of

00:19:37.420 political constitutions, I think is the title. It also has on sovereignty and several, several other

00:19:42.880 great works. Actually did a series with the prudentialist breaking down, I think the gender

00:19:49.040 of nature of political constitutions. But one of the things that he says is that no constitution has

00:19:56.720 ever been written by human hands. You might say, Oren, that sounds dumb. I've seen a picture of the

00:20:02.720 constitution. I mean, it's right there on your screen. So like, obviously it has been written

00:20:07.920 by human hands. What he meant by that was the words on the paper are not the constitution.

00:20:15.380 There is no such thing as a constitution written down, top down, created entirely by human rationality,

00:20:23.320 the human mind. Instead, constitutions are written on the heart of men by God.

00:20:30.560 Because what the constitution really is, is, well, actually what it sounds like. It's the way the

00:20:36.960 people are constituted. That's actually what a constitution is. And some constitutions are

00:20:44.920 eventually written down. Some remain unwritten. But either way, every nation already has a

00:20:50.960 constitution. The constitution is the way you live your life. It's the natural traditions and folk ways

00:20:57.640 and heritage and language and religion that tie your people together and form the way that they

00:21:04.240 naturally want to organize. The American system is not this abstract set of ideals that we all agreed

00:21:14.360 on and then entered into, and that's what made us America. Americans were already living the

00:21:20.920 constitution before it was written down. And so when they finally formalized the document of the

00:21:28.900 constitution, they're writing a beautiful document to be sure, an amazing document, but a document that

00:21:36.360 only reflects what was already happening, what was already being lived by these people, right?

00:21:42.960 It's a codification of their tradition, their folk ways, their way of life. And because the constitution

00:21:52.000 comes from the people, it emanates from the character of the people and not the people from the

00:22:01.300 constitution. If you change the people, you change the constitution. But if you change the constitution,

00:22:11.700 you don't necessarily change the people.

00:22:16.680 So because the constitution is the sum total of the way Americans live their lives,

00:22:21.860 we always have a constitution. We had a constitution before it's written. If you dropped it into a paper

00:22:26.800 shredder tomorrow, we'd still have a constitution as a people. And if you change who the American people

00:22:32.920 are, either by swapping them out for a different people through mass immigration, which has been the

00:22:39.800 goal of the left and to some extent Republicans, honestly, for all of my life, then you will change

00:22:47.180 who Americans are and what their constitution is. Even if you never changed the words on the paper,

00:22:51.960 you could never add an amendment, never change a thing with a pen, but you would still be changing

00:22:56.900 the constitution because the constitution is the people. The paper is simply a reflection

00:23:02.900 of what the people are. And if you don't think this is true, again, just go to some of the most

00:23:10.120 famous quotes from founding fathers. Who is the constitution for? It's for a religious and moral

00:23:17.060 people. It's wholly inadequate to serve any other, right? This is the famous John Adams quote.

00:23:24.180 Well, what's he saying there? He's saying, look, we know who the people of the country are,

00:23:27.940 and this constitution came out of the fact that they are this moral and religious people

00:23:32.620 who can be governed in this way. He's saying it is the character of the people that allows the

00:23:38.760 constitution to exist. It is not the constitution existing, which creates the character of the

00:23:44.380 people. We have an inverse causality in the modern United States, especially in the conservative

00:23:50.600 movement. And it's funny, in many ways, the conservative movement is like hyper blank slate

00:23:55.840 social constructionist on this, right? America was formed by this document. We have these ideas,

00:24:02.920 we put them in a document, and then the ideas in the document make the people what they are.

00:24:08.500 And anyone who adopts these ideas or lives under this piece of paper, they can be an American.

00:24:14.960 But in fact, that's not what the founders said and what basically no other people and no other

00:24:20.240 political theorists believed for most of history. Instead, John Adams says, no, you need this base

00:24:27.220 type of people with this kind of culture and this shared idea. John Jay, Federalist No. 2,

00:24:34.480 you know, God has seen, you know, it fit to give us one nation, one people with a shared language and

00:24:41.300 religion and history and heritage. These are the things that our founding fathers said out loud to let us

00:24:48.220 know what we needed to live then under the document that had emanated from the Americans, right?

00:24:57.520 The writing down of the document did not create Americans. Americans already existed. The document

00:25:02.780 simply formalized this. And that's why you could have a written constitution, and if the people are

00:25:10.780 following it, then it's real. Or you could have an unwritten constitution, and if people are following it,

00:25:17.440 they're living through that custom, that ritual, that tradition, that shared heritage,

00:25:22.400 then that's real, even though it's not written down. Or you could have a written constitution,

00:25:28.800 and if no one's following it, then it's not real. Even if it's written down, even if you can point to it,

00:25:35.840 even if you can get a judge to rule on it, if the people are not living in the way that the

00:25:41.960 constitution established organically, then the constitution loses more and more of its ability

00:25:48.220 to compel actions. And then the constitution just turns into something everyone can argue about,

00:25:54.700 right? That's when the constitution just becomes this bludgeon to hit people with. Because if we all

00:26:03.420 share the same values, we don't have to debate what the constitution means. You and I see eye to eye on what

00:26:10.920 the United States should be, so we're not confused about what the words on paper mean, or we don't

00:26:15.740 have to pretend to be confused. Because what happens is that once you've lost that shared ideology,

00:26:22.840 that shared value, that shared way of being, then what you end up with is just this piece of paper

00:26:30.980 that people are arguing about the details of in hoping to secure favor for themselves. They don't

00:26:37.120 really care what the constitution says. They don't really care what the founders meant. They don't

00:26:41.340 really care ultimately about what the real intention of the original Americans was because they don't

00:26:49.580 live that way anymore. And they don't understand that anymore. And by the way, both Joseph DeMaestra

00:26:56.240 and our founders warned us against this because our founder said, you know, famously the quote,

00:27:01.880 what kind of government do you have, Mr. Franklin? Well, you have a republic, if you can keep it.

00:27:08.360 Because Franklin knew what everyone knew. Eternal forms don't exist. Eternal governments don't exist.

00:27:15.020 People change. It is very rare for a government to exist in exactly the same form it has for like

00:27:22.640 a thousand years. That just doesn't happen. The people change over time. And this is again,

00:27:27.840 what DeMaestra said, that no constitution is going to be eternal because the people will themselves

00:27:32.600 change. And if you don't recognize that change, but you leave the legal language in place,

00:27:38.100 then you're making a critical error. So if we have any interest in like going back to the constitution

00:27:44.320 or being ruled by some kind of constitutional order, then we have to address these issues. We can't just

00:27:50.580 sit there and be like, well, it's about, uh, it's just getting the right Supreme Court ruling.

00:27:54.220 It's about getting the right legal theory. We just need a little more originalism.

00:27:58.600 We just, we just need to educate people on, uh, you know, strict interpretations of the constitution.

00:28:04.380 No, you don't understand. That's not the issue. Like, yes, the left does manipulate the language

00:28:10.180 of the constitution, but honestly, at this point, many conservatives are kind of okay with a lot of

00:28:15.120 those manipulations. They'll spout them out as if they're the gospel truth from the founding fathers,

00:28:21.180 except they're actually just leftist talking points that all of a sudden you've taken on. Cause

00:28:25.400 well, that was leftist talking points for 50 years ago. And you swallowed all those.

00:28:29.860 You think that makes you the good guy.

00:28:34.560 That's why guys like Christopher Caldwell have said, look, you know, the constitution

00:28:39.480 isn't really our written constitution. It's really the civil rights act.

00:28:43.240 Cause if you want to look at any document that really embodies the spirit of the way we live

00:28:48.440 our lives and govern our society at this point, civil rights act looks a lot more like the

00:28:53.440 constitution than the constitution does. So what's our real constitution? Is it the words on paper that

00:29:00.540 only seem to apply to a certain part of the country? Or is it the civil rights document that

00:29:09.060 actually governs every action in the United States from corporate boardrooms to legal proceedings,

00:29:14.460 to policing, to everything else that we do, which one's the real constitution, which one are we

00:29:19.680 actually living? Are we living the original constitution or are we living the civil rights act?

00:29:25.660 Which of these is an actual instantiation of our current way of being an actual reflection of the

00:29:31.520 character of our people? I think we can kind of all guess which one I would point to. And I think a lot

00:29:38.960 of other people would too. And this is what we have to understand that one of the things that allows

00:29:45.940 the constitution again to operate is that shared identity. You have to have a shared identity,

00:29:53.880 a shared culture, a shared tradition, a shared purpose in order to have a constitution because

00:30:00.060 that's what the constitution does. It embodies the way of life. That's bringing you to these forms.

00:30:04.220 What is your teleology? What does it look like to live the good life as an American? What does a

00:30:10.200 successful American look like? How do I know I'm being a better or worse American? Because if the

00:30:16.300 answer is, well, I'm just anti-racist, which it has, that's kind of been the answer for a lot of

00:30:21.100 people, then it just means that your actual constitution is the civil rights act because that's

00:30:28.100 really what governs your actions, right? That's really what informs the good for you. It tells

00:30:35.000 you what the good looks like. It tells you what a good citizen, a good American looks like, but that's

00:30:41.280 actually not good for the society. And that's why it feels like the constitution is dying because we are

00:30:48.620 losing more and more of that shared ground that allowed us to navigate that document. Again, once that's

00:30:55.240 shattered, once that's gone, it's just, it's just a, it's just a string of legal precedents that you

00:31:01.660 can, you can disassemble. That's all the constitution becomes. Once you lose the animating spirit, once

00:31:08.120 it's no longer part of the people, once it's no longer written on the hearts of Americans, then the

00:31:13.800 constitution is just, you know, some ad copy, you know, that you have to pay some crappy lawyer to go

00:31:20.680 over, right? Because it's lost the actual thing that animated it, which, which isn't the legal

00:31:26.680 language. It's not that the, the founders were just these legal geniuses though. Many of them were,

00:31:31.000 but like, that is not itself the thing, right? Again, it's, it's not a piece of technology.

00:31:35.780 It's not like, ah, well, we figured out electricity and now we got that problem solved.

00:31:41.600 As Aristotle said, man is a political animal. You cannot afford, you cannot avoid the political.

00:31:48.440 It is part of who you are. It is part of your being. You will always be engaged in politics.

00:31:56.400 Anyone who tells you you're not engaged in politics is making sure that they can rule you

00:32:00.000 because that's how politics actually works.

00:32:08.800 So we have to remember that constitutions are written for distinct cultures. They're not just a dry

00:32:17.000 procedural document. They are for a specific people. And the, that means something because

00:32:25.920 when you act as if the people serve a document or a set of laws, then honestly, I think you're making

00:32:32.900 the same mistakes that the Jewish leaders, like the Pharisees made in relation to Christ,

00:32:39.440 right? What, what is Christ's point when it comes to their observance of the law? Yes,

00:32:44.480 you have the law, the good law that, that God gave you, but because you become so obsessed

00:32:51.020 with parsing that law and making that law bend to your will, manipulating that law, arguing

00:32:56.940 about that law, dissecting that law, because that's become the way you look at the law instead

00:33:02.320 of something that is supposed to make you a better person, then you have become a servant

00:33:09.080 of the law. And so when Jesus was going around healing people, you know, healing the guy's arm

00:33:14.920 on the Sabbath in the synagogue or having his disciples, you know, pick, uh, you know, food,

00:33:20.900 you know, these different things, uh, you know, during the Sabbath, the religious leaders hated him.

00:33:27.540 And they said, you know, we got to figure out how to kill this guy. Cause he's, he's going to be

00:33:30.400 like pushing back on us and our power and the way we do business, which is this highly legalized form

00:33:35.880 of working our way through the law. You know, this, this really pedantic form of working our way

00:33:40.580 through the law. And, you know, Jesus turns to them and says, look, you know, man is not made for

00:33:47.820 the Sabbath. The Sabbath's made for man, right? The law is there to make these people's lives better.

00:33:54.500 That's what it's for. It's not to make them worse. Like that, that's not why the Sabbath exists.

00:34:02.940 That's why the, not why these laws exist not to make these people's lives worth worse. They're to

00:34:08.100 improve their lives, to make them better. And our laws exist for a reason. Our, our, our traditions

00:34:16.360 are accumulation of low time preference behavior that our ancestors built up, right? The reason we

00:34:25.420 have principles is because people before us tried out all the stuff that didn't work. And they said,

00:34:31.600 Hey, the stuff that didn't work, we should stop doing that. And we should make that like a negative

00:34:35.760 thing that people do. And then the stuff that is working, we should like work that in so deeply

00:34:42.180 into our society that it's like automatic. We need to build it into rituals. We need to build into

00:34:46.820 holidays. We need to build it into stories. We need to celebrate these virtues and these good

00:34:51.860 behaviors. We need to encode them deeply in our lives so that they're like second nature. Of course,

00:34:58.460 I don't steal my neighbor's stuff. Of course, I don't cheat on my wife with my neighbor's wife.

00:35:03.920 Of course, I don't go out and kill my neighbor just because I'm angry at them. These are reflexive

00:35:09.140 things. These are what good people do because we saw what happened when bad people got to do what they

00:35:14.620 did. Now, in many cases, we also believe that divine revelation is involved, right? That God himself

00:35:22.660 steps in and gives us knowledge of the better way to do things. But again, he's still doing it for

00:35:30.380 our betterment. God is handing the Ten Commandments to you because it will make you better people and

00:35:36.160 will make you a better nation. And people who follow these are generally going to see better

00:35:42.740 results. Now, it's not a one-to-one. There are plenty of great people who follow the Ten Commandments

00:35:47.040 and get nowhere because of it. And there are plenty of people who break every commandment and are still

00:35:51.960 materially successful. But if we look over time, the different civilizations that dedicate themselves

00:35:58.860 to having a high degree of morality because they are doing what is right and not just what feels good

00:36:06.260 or is advantageous at the moment, they have a higher degree of success. And so when we're making

00:36:13.800 these laws for people, we're making something like the Constitution, it's not just a list of rules

00:36:18.520 to follow. It's not like the founders just wrote down, here are some abstract things you should

00:36:22.820 probably do just because they're right. These things were embodied. They were for a people. They

00:36:28.260 were to benefit a specific people. And we can see this because, again, when we just try to take that

00:36:33.440 Constitution and slap it somewhere else, we try to slap it on the Afghanis or somewhere in Iraq,

00:36:39.500 it doesn't work. And it's not like, oh, well, it's because these principles are somehow now bad

00:36:45.820 or the Iraqis are just, like, too dumb to follow them, though sometimes they are. It's because those

00:36:53.140 principles aren't meant for them because the systems don't work for that kind of people. They

00:36:59.140 weren't designed for them. They were designed for Americans. That's who they're for. And so if we're

00:37:06.980 going to look at how we can solve this problem, how do we get guys who are in Portland wanting to

00:37:15.720 kill Antifa officers, how do we bring them back under control of the Constitution? Well, the only

00:37:22.080 real answer is to ultimately identify what is an American, right? That's why I've been asking this

00:37:28.080 question. That's why I think this question is so important and why this has become such a critical

00:37:32.580 discussion, despite a lot of people trying to keep it off the table.

00:37:40.220 Because if you can't define who people are, then you can't define what their shared value is, what

00:37:45.320 their shared tradition is, what their shared history and heritage, and what's their telos? What does it

00:37:51.580 look like to be a good American? You can't answer that if you don't know what American is. And it can't

00:37:56.360 just be an idea. Because obviously, it's not just anyone who adopts the idea. We've tried that.

00:38:01.960 Liberia's got a photocopy of our Constitution. It's not working for them. South Africa has all

00:38:08.080 kinds of amazing promises in their Constitution. They tried to write the perfect Constitution,

00:38:13.000 guarantees the housing and all kinds of other things. And guess what?

00:38:15.480 It doesn't go anywhere, right? Because it's not just the Constitution. It's not just the ideas.

00:38:24.160 The ideas matter. I'm not saying don't have principles. I'm not saying we don't have beautiful

00:38:27.980 ideas in America. We do. They do matter. But they belong to people. They belong to a people.

00:38:35.740 They're not a universal principle. And that's why we can't be globalists.

00:38:39.080 That's why we're not globalists. That's why the neocon, excuse me, that's why the neocon agenda has

00:38:45.860 failed. Because these principles don't just export themselves everywhere. The George Bush model

00:38:52.260 of bringing beautiful democracy to every country in the world does not work. We know this. There's

00:38:58.780 not a question here, right? So we have to answer the question, then who is this for? Right? If we know

00:39:06.380 it's for a specific people, who is that people? Who are those people? Right?

00:39:11.540 So first, we need a shared identity. We need a renewal of a shared identity. Now, I don't even

00:39:21.240 know if that's possible at this point, because we have gotten so far that the left wants to murder

00:39:25.940 you for not letting them mutilate children. Because remember, a lot of this is about illegal immigrants

00:39:32.120 and trans stuff, right? So if you're not bringing in violent gang members who are trafficking people,

00:39:38.340 sex trafficking people, or allowing the left to chop the genitals off of children, they want to kill you.

00:39:46.580 And that's a pretty radical difference of value, tradition, way of being, everything. Everything

00:39:54.660 you could think of. That's about as radical as a difference as it gets. So I don't know if we can

00:40:00.680 bind this back together, but if we can, it has to start with a shared identity and a shared renewal.

00:40:05.780 Obviously, this means immigration has to be number one. We have to stop letting new people into this

00:40:11.500 country. Trump administration is trying to do that. We're seeing very impressive results at the border.

00:40:17.080 Not as great with deportations, but obviously, they're literally fighting a war at this point to

00:40:20.780 try to get deportations done. I mean, that's now the problem for the Trump administration.

00:40:25.080 And that's not even their fault, I think, at this point. A lot of us had questions about,

00:40:29.200 you know, how rapidly they could deport people. Why aren't we getting the big mass deportations?

00:40:33.500 We aren't getting the big numbers. Well, literally, because our ICE officers are basically

00:40:36.900 in armed conflict with the left at this point. So yeah, that's going to slow stuff down.

00:40:42.960 So I don't even know, I can't blame the Trump administration on that anymore. That's squarely

00:40:47.180 on the left. If you're going to launch a paramilitary organization to try to stop

00:40:52.180 the lawful deportation of illegal immigrants, well, we got a pretty big situation on our

00:40:59.580 hands there, right? And that's why I think the left is fighting tooth and nail on this

00:41:03.620 is because they know ultimately this is at the heart of the issue. If we can return America

00:41:08.500 back to a place with a static population that could form an identity, then the entropic principles

00:41:14.920 of the left that break down society won't work anymore. And then they won't have the power

00:41:18.700 that they have from that process. And so they're definitely trying to stop any attempt to solve

00:41:24.840 the immigration process. Obviously, you have to seal the border, right? You have to do the

00:41:31.840 deportations. And then we have to look at national renewal. How do we inculcate a shared society again?

00:41:41.780 And the answer has to be twofold, right? We have to be bottom up and top down, because obviously

00:41:47.000 there are many places like, you know, Portland that are going to resist the idea of having a

00:41:53.240 unified American identity. Again, they hate the American identity. They want to destroy the

00:41:58.180 American identity. And so in some levels, you need a top down coordination to stop these violent

00:42:06.020 opposition forces from, you know, getting this national renewal going. But at the same time,

00:42:12.500 you can't just dictate identity entirely from the top down. You need regions to form again. You need

00:42:20.800 regional identities to become part of the American character again. These have gotten largely ironed out

00:42:26.900 by our shared media, the fact that we can fly across the country or drive across the country very

00:42:32.900 quickly. We're all on the same social media. A lot of these regionalities differences have been

00:42:37.820 destroyed by technology. And that's its own problem, right? Because can we, can we maintain a regional

00:42:43.940 identity, a more organic and localized identity when the entire world has access to us and we have access

00:42:50.360 to the entire world? I don't know about that. And, and to be fair, you know, a lot of the reasons we've seen

00:42:56.100 these totalizing ideologies, including liberalism, but also communism and fascism, is that the technological

00:43:05.160 process destroyed these regional identities across the board, not just in the United States and not

00:43:09.200 just in liberal democracies, but in all forms. And so for many people, the only way forward is a unified

00:43:15.400 state, because that's the only way you can get everybody on board. You need an ideological dictate

00:43:20.120 from the top to force everyone into one way of being, one mode of being, one understanding.

00:43:27.360 I hope that isn't true. There are, there are some pretty smart people who have said that that is just

00:43:32.040 the case going forward, that we're all just kind of converging on the Chinese system of government,

00:43:37.020 which is kind of this techno authoritarian, you know, uh, system with some kind of democratic trapping

00:43:44.740 attached. Right. And, uh, as much as, you know, people might be angry about that fact, and I don't want

00:43:53.600 that, but like we, again, it's your child. If you just sit there and say, well, I don't want that to

00:43:58.900 happen. So therefore it can't happen. And if you notice it's happening, or you notice that it might

00:44:03.180 be inevitable given the situation, well, you're a bad person because you're like, that means you're

00:44:07.840 like cheering for it. And no, that's not what it means. Like you can notice that something is coming

00:44:13.840 and not like it. And you can know it's unavoidable and not like it. Now I'm not saying this is

00:44:19.260 unavoidable. And I certainly am not saying that I like it. What I am saying is it might be

00:44:24.860 unavoidable. And I have to, as a, just trying to be a good assessor of the political situation to be

00:44:32.140 a good person trying to do political science, political theory. If I want to do that, well,

00:44:38.320 I have to allow for the possibility that this might be a road we're on no matter what. I hope it isn't,

00:44:45.480 but sitting around and pretending like it, you know, that's just impossible would be foolish.

00:44:51.520 So how do we get some of these more organic aspects into our society? Well, first, I think

00:44:58.320 we need the unified understanding that we are a Christian nation and primarily an Anglo-Protestant

00:45:03.800 nation. I know Catholics going crazy, Orthodox going crazy, others going crazy, but look, this is just

00:45:11.080 the case. This is just historically accurate. If you're honest for a minute, you know that the

00:45:17.120 United States was founded by Christians, specifically Protestant Christians. Now,

00:45:23.420 funny enough, Vivek Ramaswamy was asked this question at a campaign rally because he's running

00:45:27.560 for governor of Ohio, I think yesterday or the day before. And one of the young people in the crowd

00:45:35.140 said, hey, how you keep talking about us and our shared values, but our shared values come from

00:45:40.780 Christianity and you're not Christian. You worship another God and you hold to your many gods and you

00:45:48.180 hold to a completely heathen understanding that has nothing to do with our values or our traditions.

00:45:54.700 So how can you hold the same principles? And Vivek, amazingly enough, went immediately to like the

00:46:01.860 same answer that like new atheists or leftists give when they're trying to disassemble the history

00:46:07.000 of the United States. He's like, oh, well, Thomas Jefferson wasn't a real Christian and Ben Franklin

00:46:10.860 wasn't a real Christian and a lot of the founders weren't really Christian. And so that means I cannot

00:46:15.300 be a Christian and still be part of the United States too. So Vivek has the same answer that your

00:46:21.560 average Reddit atheist has about the American founding. It's not really Christian. And then he turned

00:46:27.780 around and said, well, but I do hold to the Ten Commandments, of course, but the problem is that

00:46:31.300 one of the Ten Commandments is you shall have no other God before me, before the Lord, before the

00:46:38.220 Christian God. So actually he can't hold to the Ten Commandments. And by the way, if someone ever

00:46:45.640 tells you that they can abstract your religious principles out, if you think that you can somehow

00:46:53.160 separate religious principles away from the religion, that's not your religion. You believe in

00:47:00.500 something else. If someone's like, oh, well, I believe that non-Christians can have entirely

00:47:05.900 Christian principles, that person does not believe in Christianity. They believe in something else,

00:47:10.240 basically liberalism. That's their actual belief. Because no, actually, we know that you do need to

00:47:18.060 be a Christian. Now, you can take on different aspects of Christianity. There are unsaved people or

00:47:24.200 non-Christians that can show different virtues, right? But ultimately, to have all of the

00:47:30.140 Christian virtues, to agree with all of the Christian tradition, to share that in common,

00:47:35.200 you must be Christian. And so we need to recognize that ultimately Christianity needs to be the core

00:47:42.160 of the United States. And very specifically, the Anglo-Protestant strain of Christianity is and was

00:47:50.400 the dominant one. And it's what needs to be the basis. It doesn't mean that you can't have other

00:47:55.200 versions of Christianity. But we need to show a deference to this version, because it's what we

00:48:01.320 are founded on. I was just at a conference with R.R. Reno, big Catholic, of course, big over at

00:48:07.580 First Things, huge Catholic magazine, highly prestigious Catholic magazine. We were both

00:48:13.220 getting a speech at this event. And he said, hey, look, America is a Protestant country. And I'm saying,

00:48:17.620 is that a Catholic? Like, I've been devoted Catholic. I believe the Catholic Church is the right

00:48:22.300 church. I follow its doctrine. But America is a Protestant country, and it's going to remain a

00:48:27.600 Protestant country. And as Catholics, we need to deal with that fact. We're not doing ourselves

00:48:32.440 any favors by pretending that's not the case. In fact, we're going to hurt the United States if we

00:48:37.540 don't. So this isn't a Protestant versus Catholic thing or Orthodox or whatever. This is not a knife

00:48:42.940 fight over your doctrine. This is just historical fact in the character of the nation. So if we're going

00:48:49.080 to bind together under anything, that's like the most basic core. And then from there, you can talk

00:48:55.140 about grafting other members on. Look, you know, you can add the Catholics. You can find a way for

00:49:00.460 the Catholics to be involved because they're close enough. They're still Christians, right?

00:49:05.440 Like, maybe they don't have all the beliefs and all the understandings automatically, but they're

00:49:09.280 similar enough, right? And this is what we need to understand. I know I'm going to make some people

00:49:15.280 angry on both sides here, but every tribe throughout history has had a way to graft new members into

00:49:23.160 the fold. Now, not in large droves. I'm entirely against mass immigration or even, you know, honestly,

00:49:31.580 like moderate immigration. Basically, I want very exclusive immigration for the United States,

00:49:36.600 but that doesn't mean there aren't people who can't immigrate eventually. I think we should have

00:49:41.100 a 20-year moratorium on immigration to really lock down who we are and give us time to heal

00:49:46.440 and rediscover that shared principle. But eventually, there has to be a way to bring new people in.

00:49:53.900 Again, throughout history, every tribe had this. They weren't crazy enough to think that just anyone

00:49:58.940 could join, right? Like, you don't have everybody just bringing in whatever random person from across

00:50:04.720 the world that they happen to, like, have been in a conflict with 10 years ago and say, well,

00:50:09.800 this guy, he raised his right hand and said he believes in the Constitution, even though we were

00:50:14.440 bombing him in some kind of, like, counter-jihad attack 10 years ago. Like, no one was dumb enough

00:50:21.940 to do that. There have to be limits. There are things that are incompatible. Sorry, but Islam is

00:50:26.160 incompatible with Western civilization. And it just shouldn't be here. There are people who just

00:50:31.540 cannot assimilate into American society and should not be allowed to come. However, there are people that

00:50:37.200 can. And the way you do that is by having that strong core, right? That strong core understanding

00:50:44.620 of who you are and what it means to be an American. You have to have something for people to assimilate

00:50:50.340 to. And that assimilation needs to be multi-generational. You don't just become an

00:50:54.840 American because you were here for five years and raised your hand. You need to be here and then

00:51:00.080 your grandchildren need to be here and your great-grandchildren need to be here. Maybe those

00:51:05.400 can be grafted into America. But it needs to be a multi-generational project, as it again was for

00:51:12.080 any other system, right? If you look at any other identity throughout history, it was always a

00:51:18.660 multi-generational thing for you to move into some new tribe if you ended up joining it. Like, you were

00:51:26.040 kind of always seen as an outsider, but maybe your kids will be part of the tribe or maybe their kids

00:51:29.840 will be part of the tribe and no one will notice after three or four generations. But you're an

00:51:33.960 outsider when you're there the first time. That's just how it is. It's not evil. It's not wrong. It's

00:51:38.700 not un-American. It's just the way that humans act. And you should be prepared for that.

00:51:45.900 We also need, we also have to restore the social spheres, right? We need these different

00:51:52.860 institutions that are not government institutions. We need non-governmental institutions to have

00:51:57.340 serious cultural sway. And we can only have those serious social institutions if we have

00:52:04.600 shared traditions that are not just a legal document, right? You don't get a robust church

00:52:10.300 from a legal document. You don't get robust families from a legal document. You don't get strong

00:52:17.100 communities from a legal document. Those things help make the American system possible. They make

00:52:23.740 the constitution, the legal document possible. They are, they precede the written constitution because

00:52:30.520 they are part of the true constitution, the spirit of the people. And if you don't have that, if you

00:52:36.100 don't have those institutions that are being built up by the way that you live your life, then again,

00:52:43.240 the document, the legal document, the government becomes the only arbiter. And when that happens,

00:52:49.160 politics just becomes a struggle for control of the state because it is the final word.

00:52:53.680 Nothing else has real weight. And this is what I mean by the total state.

00:52:58.760 When the state is the only thing that matters, when it can dictate everything, when there are no

00:53:05.540 opposing social spheres, and it is just the state and the individual, nothing else. And the state

00:53:10.320 dominates the individual in every situation. That is the total state. And the only way you

00:53:16.260 prevent that is not just more radical individualism. It's community. It's groups of people together

00:53:22.440 sharing their tradition, sharing their way of life, sharing their understanding that allows you to

00:53:28.700 build a scaffolding for civilization that doesn't need to be dictated constantly by the state.

00:53:32.360 We shouldn't have to go to Portland and force them to enforce immigration law. We shouldn't have to go

00:53:41.940 to Chicago and completely dominate them in order to stop like rampant crime sprees. That should be so

00:53:49.120 baked into the American character that there's no other way Americans could live but to have safe

00:53:53.980 cities, but to deport illegal immigrants. They couldn't imagine another way of life.

00:53:58.140 Because if you have to constantly force that, if Trump has to become the, you know,

00:54:04.000 you know, el presidente in order to make that happen, then it's not sustainable long term,

00:54:11.580 because eventually, he's not going to be able to force this on everybody. Now, again, that doesn't

00:54:16.260 mean I don't think you should use the power of the state at all. I'm not saying that in the slightest.

00:54:20.100 What I'm saying is, that might be necessary for a time, but it's not sufficient over the long haul.

00:54:24.420 Over the long haul, you have to care about the virtue and character of the people, the identity

00:54:28.920 of the people, the way of life of the people. Because that's the only thing that's going to

00:54:32.360 allow you to live under constitutional government in the sense of you live under a natural way of

00:54:38.380 life for your people and not the dictatorship of some state that has total control. Right?

00:54:45.860 Again, I have to hear a lot about how I'm some kind of, you know, fan of tyranny. But that's not

00:54:52.300 the case at all. In fact, I'm trying to avoid it. But the way to avoid tyranny is not to avoid

00:54:56.760 authority. Those are not the same thing. Tyranny is unrighteous, unrecognized authority.

00:55:04.360 And there's nothing that makes authority delegitimize faster than having it push back

00:55:09.660 against the actual way of the people, the way they actually want to live their lives,

00:55:13.480 the way they've learned to live their lives. So if you want to prevent the need for that kind of

00:55:18.300 authority, then you might have to wield a different type of authority that can inculcate that character,

00:55:25.680 that can bring people together, that can create a unified American identity. Because if you don't,

00:55:30.760 then the only thing left really is the total state. And that's how constitutions die.

00:55:35.660 They die because people don't recognize what they really are. They think they're just some

00:55:41.240 legal document to argue over when in fact, actually, they're made up of the character,

00:55:46.500 way of being, and culture of the people. If you wrote that, if people can't answer the question,

00:55:50.640 what is an American? What does it mean to be American? What does it mean to be American?

00:55:52.320 What does it look like? If they don't have a shared answer to that question,

00:55:55.960 then no piece of paper is going to stop it, no matter how beautiful it is, no matter how wonderful

00:55:59.880 it is. It was only a reflection of the beautiful and wonderful people that wrote it down.

00:56:04.240 It was never an eternal solution to the political problem.

00:56:08.140 All right, guys, let's head over to the questions of the people who are real quick.

00:56:11.400 Mostly Peaceful Merch says, Propositional Nationhood is the

00:56:17.440 truons of political ideology. Yeah, absolutely. This really is trans-Americans, right? Or I've

00:56:23.420 called them paperwork Americans. But yeah, I identify as American. Well, no. I mean, because

00:56:28.220 you could just not identify as American tomorrow, like Ilhan Omar, right? I identify for American long

00:56:33.800 enough to get into the country and get the benefits and get power. But then once I've gotten through

00:56:39.460 the door, actually, I hate American. It turns out, man, I don't feel like being an American today,

00:56:43.420 right? That's the real trans-Americans there. Art says, the dark irony of the Iraq-Afghanistan war

00:56:50.980 was that the neocon belief that an Arab Thomas Jefferson was somehow hiding only in two caves

00:56:55.700 over from bin Laden. Western concepts are for Westerners. Yes, that's correct. American concepts

00:57:01.000 are for Americans. Western concepts are for Westerners. They don't work for other people.

00:57:05.420 And sitting around and pretending that there's always this eternal, democratic, liberal spirit

00:57:11.720 in every given country that you can just dig out and apply the Constitution to is just a recipe for

00:57:17.700 disaster. Florida Henry says, the Constitution is a figurehead now. The Code of Federal Regulations,

00:57:24.420 Title I through 50, controls every part of our lives. Aviation to waste management, everything. Again,

00:57:29.460 you have this procedural managerialism, these codes built into the deep state,

00:57:33.880 the fact that the manipulation of procedural outcomes is the actual winning strategy in any

00:57:38.680 given political argument. Those things are very deleterious to the idea that the Constitution could

00:57:44.120 have any power over us. And when we say the Constitution is dead, that's what we mean.

00:57:49.020 Not the Constitution is bad, not the Constitution was not going to do its job, but that if you don't

00:57:55.020 have people who are expecting the Constitution to be the true letter of the law, if you don't have

00:57:59.680 people who see the Constitution as, you know, just a natural extension of the way they live their

00:58:04.660 lives, well, then they're going to end up being ruled by something else. And that's something else

00:58:09.080 right now is this like highly technocratic set of procedures that everyone is absolutely dominated

00:58:15.060 by. That's why Trump can't get anything done, right? Because he's not really in charge of a lot

00:58:19.600 of this stuff he's supposed to be elected to do. Because there's a thousand procedures from FBI hiring and

00:58:24.720 firing to hiring and firing of executive branch officials and bureaucrats to, you know, different

00:58:30.960 judges who can block executive orders and executive actions and things that Trump is clearly empowered

00:58:36.280 to do through the Article 2 of the Constitution, but somehow loses that power because some judge decides

00:58:42.780 that he's not allowed to do it. Like, these are all things that are not really part of the Constitution, and

00:58:47.660 yet they are treated as if they are the law of the land. And if that is the way that our country works,

00:58:52.280 well, guess what? That's our real Constitution. And that means our current Constitution, the ones

00:58:57.200 you think is our current Constitution, is dead. I don't say that with any joy. I don't say that with

00:59:01.940 any relish. But that's just the reality. So if you have any interest, if you really love the

00:59:07.620 Constitution, don't tell me I'm a bad person for noticing the Constitution is no longer working.

00:59:13.560 Don't, you know, I feel like I'm staring at a boat with a hole on it that's taking in a huge amount

00:59:19.860 of water is about to sink into shark infested waters. And I'm saying, hey, man, there's a hole

00:59:24.780 in this boat, and we're taking on water. And if we don't do something right now, we're going to drown.

00:59:30.480 And instead of the guy next to me being like, you know what, man, you're right. We either need to

00:59:34.540 figure out how to fix that hole, or we got to figure out the best way to deal with the fact

00:59:38.060 that we're going into shark infested waters, because this is a bad situation. Instead, they're just

00:59:42.900 saying, how dare you notice a hole in the boat? Our ancestors built this boat. This is the best boat

00:59:47.840 that's ever existed. And this boat will always work on its own. We don't need to worry about

00:59:51.540 maintaining it. And we don't need to think about why the boat works or how to none of that. Because

00:59:56.400 because at some point, the boat was made for us. And I'm a lazy conservative, and I don't want to do

01:00:01.860 anything. I don't want to have to govern. I don't have to rule. I don't have to take responsibility.

01:00:07.320 And, and a bunch of people who want to rule me have told me I don't have to. In fact, they've told me

01:00:11.520 that's my principle. What I believe is that I should never be in charge. And I should just trust the boat

01:00:16.460 to take care of itself. And I'm like, dude, we are sinking. We're about to go down. Like,

01:00:22.620 you're evil. You're, you, you like Nazis or something. You're woke. Like, no, man, I just

01:00:28.760 want to stop sinking. I just want to, or if we're going to sink, I want to be prepared for what to do

01:00:33.860 once we're in the shark infested waters. I don't want to be in the waters. I don't want the bowl to

01:00:38.500 have the boat to have a hole, but this is where we're at. And yet still we see people pretending like

01:00:44.180 that's not the case. And I think that's why we keep ending up with the situation that we're in.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - October 10, 2025

How a Constitution Dies ｜ 10⧸10⧸25

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