00:01:09.640And it's really crazy because all these organizations
00:01:13.960that are dragged out by the media over and over again
00:01:16.520to oppose Trump's migration policies based on religious grounds,
00:01:21.700many of them are taking the vast majority of their income from these migration and refugee
00:01:26.940services grants. Like the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, 81.8 percent of their revenue
00:01:32.520pre-assets released from restrictions was revenue that was from a migration and refugee services
00:01:38.980grants. So it's like, you know, you say what you want about the Ford company, but when the Ford
00:01:43.900company is saying you should build more cars, you should pay for more cars, you know, the government
00:01:47.820should buy a ton of cars should take that with a little bit of skepticism and every time these
00:01:53.180organizations are brought out this massive conflict of interest never disclosed yeah i think it's
00:01:59.020incredibly important that people understand the motivations behind a lot of this because as you
00:02:03.100say uh look we know the pope is you know generally communist that now sadly seems to be a catholic
00:02:09.820practice but not only is the pope spouting a lot of this nonsense about how every country has to
00:02:14.860opens its borders not the vatican but every other country uh but but while that's being spouted we
00:02:20.400also see often american bishops come out against the trump administration talking about immigration
00:02:25.740these kind of things and so when you have this scenario where so much of their funding is coming
00:02:31.820from well as you show in the article the u.s government uh then these things are just one
00:02:37.800hand washing the other it's ultimately a bunch of religious figures being bribed to push a political
00:02:43.140line through government funding and then turning around and ultimately delivering exactly that
00:02:49.060product. But before we dive into the story itself, I know you've started Effort News here. And for
00:02:55.000people who might not be familiar with your work or what's going on there, can you explain who you
00:02:59.540are and what Effort News is doing? Yeah. So my background is generally in technology. I worked
00:03:08.920a bit with the Trump admin on AI, not in the admin, but kind of with some people in the admin.
00:03:15.600But Effort News is a new publication to do investigative reporting. And it's not like AI
00:03:22.860writing. I think a lot of people have tried to do AI writing. And for some reason, it still sucks.
00:03:28.540Every time I read AI writing, it's just like, this is just unpleasant. But what we do instead
00:03:34.840is we query these like massive databases of public records, including the ones that we use for this
00:03:40.660story. We query, you know, millions of documents and stuff like that with AI, financial records,
00:03:47.940legal records, and use that to find the kind of signal and the noise to find the needle in the
00:03:53.060haystack of, you know, all these documents that should be a huge scandal, but just have been
00:03:57.960overlooked for years. Yeah, I think that, you know, while I'm generally an AI skeptic, and for
00:04:03.700many of the reasons you just listed like if you're if i'm reading ai slop i immediately know what it
00:04:08.020is i can immediately identify it i would rather read the original thoughts and words of a human
00:04:14.040however one of the great problems especially when it comes to conservative journalism is simply not
00:04:20.320having the manpower like people don't you know i worked in just local reporting and people don't
00:04:25.280understand just the raw time it takes to do something as simple as you know sit through a
00:04:31.720county commission meeting and look at every document and every proposal everything being
00:04:36.360brought forward and actually synthesize that and put it out and so that's why very little
00:04:41.000original journalism occurs but when you come to even these larger issues obviously like these
00:04:46.780nationwide issues you know the the level of research required to do this kind of work is
00:04:52.460fast and we simply don't have the manpower we don't have enough conservatives or right-wing
00:04:57.680people in the sphere to kind of grind through this. So if AI can allow you to do the research
00:05:04.380to go through these databases, to pull the data at a level that would have taken, you know,
00:05:09.760hundreds of hours of manpower in many cases, well, now you've opened up whole new frontiers
00:05:15.520of journalism. I've got a buddy who says that AI might actually change our Congress as well,
00:05:20.880because right now so much of the legislation is written by, you know, a lot of lobbyists because
00:05:26.320there's not the staff for most congressmen to sift through all the bills, that kind of thing.
00:05:31.640AI provides you the ability to now just do all that at a click. And so I think it's interesting
00:05:36.540that whether it could be congressional language or news reporting, ultimately AI can kind of
00:05:43.460balance the deficit that the right had when it come to researching these stories. But that said,
00:05:50.020let's get into this story itself. So you've already-
00:05:53.220One note before that, if you have a moment, which is almost all of traditional reporting is solicited.
00:06:00.880It's someone who comes to you with a story they want heard, and that's going to have incentives.
00:06:07.020They're going to want that for a reason.
00:06:09.260And that's shaped like essentially like all of the media, more than 90 percent for sure, of the new stories that get broken, you know, all the way back to Nixon.
00:06:20.420There's people in the deep state coming to the journalists with information, and this really is a different kind of record search, where we can actually exhaustively look through the entire Medicaid reimbursement database, the entire HHS grant database, which is how we ended up finding these stories.
00:06:40.820All right. So you already laid out the, you know, kind of the Catholic charities, you know, being implicated here. But let's get the wider scope of what's going on here. When it comes to the refugee resettlement program, has it always been with us?
00:06:57.620If so, how did it change under the Biden administration?
00:07:44.020You can see there's this just like massive spike up from $16 million to $1.2 million.
00:07:50.540And that includes a ton of money for religious organizations.
00:07:54.380More than half was sent to religious-affiliated organizations, including $141 million to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, $80 million to Episcopal Migration Ministries, $159 million to Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services, and $162 million to Church World Service, as well as, I think, $140-something million to HIAS.
00:08:16.380uh highest let me find the record here it's later in the org um 139 uh million sorry to highest
00:08:25.420which is a self-identified you know organization promoting you know jewish values that that's what
00:08:30.060they themselves say um and uh and uh interestingly not quite a religious organization but also um
00:08:39.020124 million to the ethiopian community development council uh but but yeah these
00:08:44.860these massive grants exploding from almost nothing relative to the total amount to 1.2
00:08:50.180billion under Biden. So you listed out all those organizations. And as you say, a number of them
00:09:00.020are religious, but some of them are just something like the Ethiopian Community Development Council.
00:09:05.760That one definitely stood out to me. First, why does that exist in the United States at all? But
00:09:10.260second why are we handing it any money and the staggering thing about some of the data that you
00:09:16.720kind of brought together here is you can look at the total revenue in a lot of these and in many
00:09:22.780cases you know we just look at the church world service here you got a total revenue of 282
00:09:28.240million dollars 251 million dollars is uh derived from the government and of that 232 million is
00:09:39.040migrant services so we're looking at all but what 30 million dollars ultimately that's coming
00:09:45.800directly from government funding and of that all but 20 million is coming directly from these
00:09:51.760migrant services and so we have a scenario where basically the only reason this charity exists0.84
00:09:57.960is to just funnel as many human beings into the united states as possible the religious0.75
00:10:05.320aspect is nothing but a trapping when we look at kind of all the money that they're deriving here0.83
00:10:11.400again we can see in a regular uh situations the ethiopian community development you know 920.95
00:10:17.080million dollars but you know 89 is government revenue and every bit of that is from migrant
00:10:22.680services these these organizations only exist because the government is funding them they are
00:10:28.540you know for all intents and purposes government organizations designed to bring in and resettle
00:10:35.020refugees into the United States. Now, obviously, each one of these is probably going to be working
00:10:41.580with different communities. I imagine the Ethiopian Community Development Council isn't
00:10:45.140probably bringing in a lot of people from Southeast Asia. But ultimately, what is the
00:10:50.280excuse for this explosion in refugee resettlement? Did we have some kind of event in 2021 that
00:10:57.680suddenly we needed to, you know, what, quadruple the amount of funding in this kind of thing?
00:11:02.220What's going on here? Yeah. So there was a bill for this program in particular for preferred
00:11:09.880communities. There was a bill attached or there's a measure attached to the Ukraine war bill that
00:11:17.720gave the HHS 3.78 billion in refugee resettlement funding. But based on the government's own
00:11:28.120reports, only 47% of that was estimated to go to Ukrainians, and only 982 million was confirmed to
00:11:36.940actually have gone to Ukrainians. So that's 1.99 billion, more than half, that went to other
00:11:45.220populations eligible for ORR services, according to this report. And there's very little that we can
00:11:54.160do, especially once it flows into each of these organizations, to track what exactly those are
00:12:00.060being spent on. They're supposedly allocated towards migration and refugee services. It's
00:12:08.260hard even to delineate within these programs. These NGOs don't disclose how much of it goes to
00:12:14.380people who are actually filing for asylum versus other just like economic migrants or any other
00:12:20.040kind of migrants. So it's hard to tell where exactly that money is going once it makes its
00:12:24.640way into the organizations. So we already know that the United States has sunk hundreds of
00:12:31.760billions of dollars into the Iran war at this point. And people need to understand why war is
00:12:37.740so important to the system. Obviously, it drives a lot of economic investment. You can't generate
00:12:44.620hundreds of billions of dollars going to defense contractors and everyone else involved if you
00:12:50.160don't have it but it only doesn't it doesn't just occur overseas or even line the pockets of
00:12:55.180military contractors that money also gets spent domestically as we're seeing here it looks like
00:13:00.620we had hundreds of millions of dollars set aside at the very least uh in the name of resettling
00:13:07.260refugees well those refugees wouldn't exist obviously if the ukrainian war wasn't ongoing
00:13:12.360So in many ways, we need the Ukraine war to fund these organizations. But then, as you say, the majority of the money that is allocated for Ukrainian refugees doesn't even go to Ukrainian refugees.
00:13:25.200So someone like Irina Zarutska, who sadly met a terrible fate in the United States after being a Ukrainian refugee, she might have been one of these people that could have received what was at least the stated legitimate goal of those funds to relocate her here in the United States in what was supposed to be theoretical safety.
00:13:43.300But ultimately, most of that money is not even going to that cause. And this is what you need to understand about leftist funding and how this stuff works, guys. Whenever the leftists find some way to use a crisis to their advantage, they juice all of that money into their friends, into their buddies, into their preferred organizations.
00:14:02.960So yes, the Biden administration sees a refugee crisis with Ukrainians, but more importantly, they see an opportunity to then force that money into all the other pet projects that they have. That is just a slush fund that begins with the excuse of the Ukrainian crisis and then leads us into the situation we have now.
00:14:24.100And as you're saying here, Brian, when you have all this money flowing into these NGOs, to these charities, they often just become a black box. There's no longer any accountability. We don't know where that money is being assessed. Most of these organizations are surely not sitting there and evaluating the worthiness of every asylum claim.
00:14:43.960I mean, the United States barely does that. These organizations are not going to do that. And so there's no telling how many illegals or how many people who otherwise do not have valid claims of asylum. They are ultimately facilitating by operating these organizations.
00:15:01.740Now, the interesting thing is that, as we've pointed out, many of these organizations have a religious moniker, but they tend not to actually do any church work. They're not actually being funded even by the donations of the associated denominations.
00:15:19.700The Lutheran Immigration Refugee Service is not being funded by actual Lutherans in most of these cases.
00:15:26.920So is there any tension between these religious organizations and the people who are supposed to fund them?
00:15:33.540Are most people aware of how deeply they're tied to what really is this refugee institutional complex as opposed to actually doing work on behalf of the religious affiliation that is supposed to be attached to the church?
00:17:01.600So if you go down to the statements, they made a statement, and not just a statement,
00:17:09.620but an actual decision, actual concrete decision that plays out in real life to cancel their
00:17:19.660relationship with the program when the Trump administration made the directive to resettle
00:17:24.940South African refugees. They said, and I'm quoting here now, in light of our church's steadfast
00:17:31.380commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church
00:17:36.740of South Africa, we're not able to take the step, not able to resettle the South African refugees.
00:17:43.600Accordingly, we have determined that by the end of the federal fiscal year, we'll conclude
00:17:47.320a refugee resettlement grant agreements with the US government. So they made, and this is a letter
00:17:53.740that was published, not just by Episcopal Migration Ministries, but was published churchwide to the
00:17:59.260Episcopal Church, the statement and, you know, this policy to stop resettling refugees when it
00:18:07.240came to white Afrikaners. And, you know, they made their, I think they made the rhetoric very clear
00:18:13.380there. But still, many people are not aware of this. Many people are not aware both of the funding
00:18:19.360and of this massive values conflict between normal people in the pews and church leadership.
00:18:27.080Yeah. And I think this is really important because we have a lot of people who like to say,
00:18:33.760well, it's just the values. That's what these people care about. It's just the values, right?
00:18:38.900We have Ben Shapiro saying he doesn't give a damn about the browning of America because
00:18:43.200It's really about the values that are coming across, but when we look at the actual organizations, they make it clear it's not about the values, it's about the race.
00:18:51.860As you say here, these organizations are more than happy to bring in people from the third world as long as they are the right color under these ideas that they are a refugee.
00:19:03.660But the minute that the refugee, who's literally having a political party chant about murdering them in the streets, when they come and they need protection, all of a sudden, this is just kind of mask off.
00:19:17.060And I guess it shouldn't be a mask. I think at this point we all kind of knew this.
00:19:20.080But there is still this lingering insistence by many conservatives that, again, it's not about the race. It's about the values, and that's what matters here.
00:19:30.540But to the left, to these organizations, the racial part is explicit. And even a religious organization who should, in theory, care about the well-being of all people who practice that religion, all people really, but especially those that practice the religion.
00:19:45.840The fact is that, well, if you're the wrong skin color, actually, we don't care about that. And we're willing to kind of dash the entire program if we have to comply with this idea that white people could ever be a victim of anything.0.71
00:20:00.600Now, the interesting question I think a lot of people would be asking is, you know, with the Trump administration obviously making big changes to refugee policy, we know it's not just the introduction of the Afrikaners.0.64
00:20:12.140We're seeing fewer and fewer people admitted permanently as refugees in the United States.
00:20:18.440To the Trump administration's great credit, they have really clamped down on this program significantly.
00:20:24.640So my next question would be, are these programs still operating?
00:20:36.420So I think I am breaking news here on the Oren McIntyre show.
00:20:42.000We received this information since the publication of the article.
00:20:48.380So this was not able to be included in the original article because we hadn't had it yet.
00:20:53.620But the money in this grant was repurposed by the administration.
00:21:01.100I believe there was some court ruling that said they couldn't cancel it outright and has been reallocated to a different grant that will begin in 2026 that is where all the providers for the original grants are not eligible.
00:21:21.900so they've repurposed the money into a different grant um hopefully for uh different work uh and
00:21:30.560they've made it so that the original providers are all ineligible for um this new batch of grants
00:21:36.660and that is i can send you the link for that uh in the chat as well well that that is great news
00:21:43.400and i think that you know there is a lot of difficulty the trump administration is facing
00:21:49.200when it comes to court rulings. Obviously, the left figured out that even though Trump won with
00:21:55.520the popular vote and we had the House and the Senate, that the judiciary was going to be the
00:22:01.040way to go to war with the administration this time. And so they have been able to cut off a
00:22:05.880lot of these efforts. As you say here, I can't imagine in a functional way the Constitution
00:22:12.700ever telling the executive branch that they can't stop handing out money. Obviously, that's a
00:22:20.340garbage ruling. And I do think at some point, the Trump administration just has started ignoring0.99
00:22:24.420these people. But it is good to know that they came up with a workaround that they ultimately
00:22:29.220understood that if you pull this money out and you repurpose it and you draft it so that all
00:22:34.300the previous organizations can't get access to it, that at least keeps the money from flowing
00:22:39.320back into these efforts, right? And because so many of these organizations were pretty much
00:22:44.620entirely dependent on, you know, the government handouts, they're going to fold pretty quickly
00:22:50.820if they don't get access to these grants. So restricting these organizations from getting
00:22:56.160access, yes, in some way it feels like a half measure, but at the very least for the direct
00:23:01.840bad actors, this is going to dry up the majority of their funding right away. And I really love
00:23:07.580been the the phrase of this the preferred communities uh you know grant uh because that
00:23:13.480is so unintentionally honest about what they think right like these are the people we prefer in the
00:23:20.180country these are the people we want in the country who's not preferred white south africans
00:23:24.600that's not a preferred community but when it comes to all of these other specific minorities that
00:23:29.840they think they're going to get to control hold into an ethnic coalition wield against the current
00:23:34.280Americans, that's the stuff that they lean into. So I'm glad to hear that the Trump administration0.91
00:23:39.180is ultimately seeing the opportunity to at the very least punish these organizations over time.
00:23:45.380But the real question is, of course, all of this could be undone with a stroke of a pen, right?
00:23:50.520Because this has not been done through legislation, because it's largely been done through
00:23:55.360rearrangement of, you know, bureaucracy and procedure, you know, executive order,
00:24:01.000these kind of things uh if a democrat gets in next election cycle all of this could disappear right
00:24:08.520yeah uh so so there is a way to do uh something more about it which would be to uh cut off funding
00:24:15.480um i think i believe this would be under the refugee act funding uh under senate appropriation
00:24:21.320so if you're in that fight you know uh that that is where to look so for you know i i want to
00:24:28.840to take this moment to speak a little bit on the importance of the 2028 election. A lot of people
00:24:37.240have become very angry all of a sudden with me because I've pointed out that some of the current
00:24:42.420missteps of the Trump administration make midterms, which were already going to be dicey,
00:24:46.980a bit of a train wreck, and they could possibly throw 2028 into question. A lot of people have
00:24:53.700taken those comments for me to then be saying, oh, well, ultimately, we don't want Trump to win
00:24:59.720somehow, or we don't want Republicans to win, or you should all vote Democrat. I want to be very
00:25:04.300clear. I've pushed back against every attempt by people to say we should not support Trump,
00:25:09.820or we should support the Democrats, or we should form a third party. I have been explicit in my
00:25:15.240opposition to all of those. And for exactly the reason that Brian is kind of illuminating here,
00:25:20.600because yes there are more there is more that we could be you know done to make this permanent but
00:25:26.620we don't know how much of it is going to get done which means it really matters who's in charge it
00:25:30.740matters if the republicans hold the house in the senate it matters if the republicans are in the
00:25:36.740white house not because i think the republicans are the best they're they're bad they're just
00:25:41.260the only thing right now standing between us and truly completely open borders which is what we
00:25:46.840will get if the left comes back into power and so while i have problems and i think that the
00:25:52.300administration has made bad decisions that have currently hurt its standing i still want them to
00:25:57.240win i still want them to succeed all of my criticism about the administration and where
00:26:02.120it stands in these moments is not me endorsing anything that you know the left would do better
00:26:07.220or that we would you know be better by punishing the republicans by showing them and putting the
00:26:12.020democrats in power the reason i say this stuff is because we have to get better at this because
00:26:16.880there is too much on the line and so we can't throw away the future of our country by fighting0.89
00:26:21.760some stupid war in the middle east when we're seeing the effects from the data that's being1.00
00:26:26.380presented right here just in legal immigrants because this is going to be even harder now0.99
00:26:31.780brian i don't know if you're familiar with this but now that so many of these people have been
00:26:36.880settled legally as refugees what is their status are they are they working towards citizenship is
00:26:44.480there a finalized date at which their you know refugee status runs out are they just here
00:26:49.320indefinitely is there anything that could be done ultimately to deport these people
00:26:53.320what options do we have to deal with the damage that's already being inflicted by the Biden
00:26:57.400administration um so I believe once again it's a little bit fuzzy because unclear how many of these
00:27:04.600dollars are actually being spent on like people who are making asylum claims. But the traditional
00:27:10.620system is that you make an asylum claim. If that asylum claim is granted, then you're given
00:27:17.740legal status, a legal visa status in the United States, which can then be used to apply for a
00:27:25.440green card, eventually apply for naturalized citizenship after 10 years. And so it's a longer
00:27:32.400process, but it's a kind of, you know, fully legal funnel at this point. So there are subcategories
00:27:41.400of that asylum process that can be changed either via executive order or by via legislation.
00:27:49.080There was a chart recently posted of the temporary protected status programs that have now been
00:27:54.660canceled. So that would have been programs where people would have been considered legal migrants,
00:27:59.960Famously in the, I think, the vice presidential debate between Vance and Tim Walls, Walls kept insisting, you know, that Vance was describing legal migrants because they had come illegally, but then were made legal through this temporary protected status declaration.
00:28:20.800And we've seen many of those, including the one for Haiti, for temporary protected status reversed.
00:28:26.840and that is something where you know uh when that status is is reversed i believe those people will
00:28:32.460have to leave the country and so there are um parts to this there are um there's more that
00:28:39.640you can do with legislation if that's through you know through the house and senate um um so so yeah
00:28:46.720there are there are some pathways towards uh changing the law in this case yeah and you know
00:28:52.980obviously ideally we would just get the legislation done but if we can't pass the
00:28:57.660save act through you know a republican house and senate then unfortunately i'm very doubtful that
00:29:04.940we'll see large-scale legislative relief when it comes to most of these refugee policies uh that
00:29:12.700said uh that only makes the uh again you know who is sitting in the uh white house even more
00:29:21.260important that it becomes even more essential to control these things because once you allow
00:29:26.720a lot of these people in through what is basically a legal mechanism uh there is a very you have very
00:29:33.920very difficult time kind of changing what's going on there now i wanted i this chart in the piece
00:29:40.380caught my eye as well my contractors opposition to trump can you explain to people what this is
00:29:46.520showing? Yeah. So each dot on that chart is a public statement or a press statement critical
00:29:54.000of Trump. Almost always, but not always, interestingly, it is on immigration-related
00:30:02.640issues. But actually, interestingly, Church World Service had a recent statement on the Voting
00:30:08.820Rights Act ruling. So not even Trump, but on the Supreme Court saying that you no longer have to
00:30:14.780gerrymander districts so that they're majority minority districts. That was the recent ruling.
00:30:19.800That was Church World Service's statement saying that not having racial criteria for districts was
00:30:27.020racist. So they're broadly oppositional in many ways. And it's very hard to separate that out
00:30:36.000from the funding. You know, I think everyone would recognize if, you know, you had a bakery going on
00:30:40.680TV, going on all of these media appearances and saying, everyone must buy bread. We must
00:30:45.440all buy bread. Bread is the greatest thing in the world. By the way, I make and sell
00:30:50.060bread. This would be something that would obviously be suspicious to everyone. But here
00:30:57.280we have these organizations, which are a majority of their revenue come from these migration
00:31:05.460contracts who are saying, you know, the Trump administration is deeply immoral for their
00:31:10.900migration policies. It's like no one should be taking this credibly. Yeah, I mean, you know,
00:31:17.100it's incredible, as you say, that a ostensibly religious service would be speaking out,0.84
00:31:26.100even if you explicitly, you know, push yourself as some kind of migrant contractor, which I'm sure
00:31:31.620none of them do up front. But even if you were, the fact that you would then pontificate on
00:31:38.000whether or not we should be racially gerrymandering to create artificial districts on behalf of black
00:31:45.020communities. I mean, that's so bizarre and out of left field. It should have nothing to do. And so
00:31:50.360like you're saying, the only real explanation is just a consistent political activism against
00:31:55.880the Republican Party and against Donald Trump specifically. I mean, you got 41 instances here
00:32:01.560from Church World Services. The only other one that comes close, I believe, is the Jewish service
00:32:06.820that you had there as well, that organization. But the fact that they are so constantly pontificating,
00:32:12.600as you point out, on these issues makes it very clear what their ultimate real orientation is.
00:32:18.940This is not a charity in any sense. This is a fully political arm of the Democratic Party masquerading as a religious organization. And again, all of these are concerning, but especially with the Catholic charities.
00:32:33.900I mean, this is, again, a group that is very influential. It has the, as you point out, they are not just some immigration resettlement organization. They make real decisions about the church and the faith of many people. They advise many politicians.
00:32:50.660And one of the things that really annoys me, and guys, to be clear, there are evangelical organizations that do this too. So this is not just my Catholic swipe. But one of the things I've noticed is major Catholic figures who are theoretically on the right do not speak out against this.
00:33:10.360They do not speak out against Catholic charities. You know, you're going to catch Bishop Barron talking about the evils of like dangerous right wing young men, but you're not going to hear him talking about refugee resettlement.
00:33:21.340And I think there's a real lack of leadership in all of these communities, to be clear, not just Catholics, but all of these communities to speak up against this kind of action.
00:33:31.100But it's particularly, I think, dangerous with the Catholic charities because it's so deeply entwined with the actual leadership of Catholicism in the United States.
00:33:40.320Yes. And we haven't published an article on this, but there are also these organizations, actually, I think you may have covered them previously, that will also funded through government grants that will, you know, liaison with church groups and other religious groups.
00:34:00.980and will work on, you know, countering hate within the church, you know, addressing hate speech,
00:34:07.100addressing, you know, addressing racism within the church, and so on. And you can look out for
00:34:12.760an article on that in the future. But yeah, in many cases, these are not, you know, people who
00:34:19.240are organically passionate about their cause. These are well-funded, systematic operations.
00:34:25.400well i'm glad that you guys covered this it's very clear that the trump administration is aware
00:34:31.680of this problem and is taking action on this issue uh unfortunately there is a lot of bureaucracy
00:34:37.640a lot of red tape a lot of legal rulings and other issues that are inhibiting uh them being able to
00:34:44.240do everything that's necessary here but i think that the more we have this kind of data the more
00:34:49.360that it's clear what the motivation and you know funding and activism of these organizations are
00:34:54.820the easier it is for the average person to kind of go to their local church leadership and say
00:35:00.260hey do we want to be a part of this because i think when a lot of people hear oh you want to
00:35:04.440cut funding to a religious organization you know they they naturally panic oh yeah this is my
00:35:09.540church of course they're doing good things you know very common sentiment that people automatically
00:35:15.040assume but if local parishioners can have this kind of data they can have these quotes they can
00:35:20.760follow the money and follow the logic, it's much easier to make the case then to your church
00:35:25.940leadership that, hey, maybe these aren't benevolent organizations. They aren't working
00:35:30.000our behalf. They aren't doing the Lord's work. These are functionally government entities that
00:35:35.060are politically aligned with the left, and there's no reason for us to continue to engage with them.
00:35:39.780Now, that said, there's another interesting story that you guys kind of uncovered and talked about
00:35:45.280here recently, which is a program out of California denying expecting mothers coverage
00:35:52.640if they don't meet certain racial requirements. Can you tell us a little more about that?
00:35:58.740Yeah. So this is a program called Birth Equity. You probably already know where this is going.
00:36:04.980That would fund exclusively these programs for Black women and birthing people. And a related0.84
00:36:13.680program, Black Infant Health, literally denied this woman in California medical services because1.00
00:36:23.180she was not the right race. And these are programs that are in clear violation of the text of the
00:36:31.720Civil Rights Act. For a long time, this wasn't enforced, even though, you know, the authors of
00:36:37.220the Civil Rights Act assured that anti-white discrimination, anti-white racism would be
00:36:43.440protected against in the civil rights act but recently in 2025 the doj civil rights division
00:36:51.120under harmeet dylan started actually prosecuting these cases and they've already prosecuted
00:36:56.800some versions of these fact patterns like minnesota department of health
00:37:03.040a program that was also rationing care based on race and the illinois review that provided
00:37:09.360beneficial loans based on race. And this is something where the DOJ is really in a position
00:37:17.140to act because these three programs all take federal Medicaid dollars, birth equity, black
00:37:22.360infant health, and perinatal equity initiative. They all take federal Medicaid dollars. They're
00:37:28.280all eligible for suits under equal protection, under Title VI, and under a few others that are
00:37:35.620kind of medical specific prohibiting race discrimination. And what the DOJ could do
00:37:42.700in conjunction with the CMS is cut off this federal Medicaid funding if they do not cease
00:37:51.220their racial discrimination. So this is one of those scenarios where people just don't understand
00:37:58.420how much of this was occurring because all the previous Republican administrations just didn't
00:38:04.040care. These anti-white programs pop up everywhere all the time, as you're saying, and the appetite
00:38:10.540for going after them, even though they should, in theory, be completely illegal under the Civil
00:38:16.180Rights Act, was basically non-existent. And ultimately, laws are not just pieces of paper.
00:38:21.360They are the people that enforce them, the priorities of the people who actually
00:38:24.900bring those mechanisms of enforcement against those that violate it. And so if the Civil Rights
00:38:30.680division understands that well implicitly we do not protect white people no matter what the law
00:38:36.280says then the civil rights act can say on paper whatever it likes what it functionally says is
00:38:42.420this works for everybody except white people and now we're seeing a shift because of who's at the
00:38:48.080head of this so again you know big kudos to trump administration on this because otherwise we would0.51
00:38:53.400have seen zero action we would not have seen anyone stepping up to the plate to punish this
00:38:58.700And it's interesting because, of course, you know, a lot of people forget that during the pandemic, we had a very serious scenario where basically the government came out and said, we don't want to give the vaccine to older people because older people tend to be white.0.62
00:39:16.600And so we don't want to protect white people more than anyone else.0.52
00:39:19.460Now, in a lot of ways, we don't talk about it because, well, the vaccine was a disaster. It hurt a lot of people. And so a lot of people dodged a bullet by not getting the vaccine ultimately. But that could have broken the other way, right? Like if the vaccine had worked, if it hadn't had all these really serious side effects, we would have been looking at a scenario where the government was considering not giving life-saving health care to people just because they were white and not in crazy California, but all across the country.
00:39:46.280So the fact that this is something that has repeatedly showed up in some of the most serious situations you can imagine is absolutely devastating.
00:39:55.360And it really shows, again, a concerted effort to target the native heritage population of the United States through any means necessary, whether it be the decision to not allow white refugees in or to fight back against white refugees while encouraging refugees from every other background,
00:40:14.160or whether it's cutting off medical access to white women who might be pregnant because they don't meet certain requirements0.57
00:40:21.440or even theoretically giving out life-saving medication against a pandemic if that had actually worked.
00:40:28.720We are just seeing a consistent pattern, ultimately, of these anti-white decisions when it comes to medicine.0.74
00:40:34.740And this is incredibly dangerous because, of course, this is something we need to get right.
00:40:39.960Public health has to be for everybody.
00:40:44.160And when you see these carve outs specifically for preferred groups, again, those preferred communities come up again, this is going to have a deleterious effect on social fabric.
00:40:53.640People are going to hate each other when they see one race getting preferential treatment or one race getting denied the treatment necessary for them on a regular basis.
00:41:03.680So with California feeling that pressure, are we getting any indication that other programs like this are going to fold before the civil rights division gets to them?
00:41:13.920Are other governments looking to kind of redress this stuff, you know, or are they ultimately going to wait until Harmeet Dhillon comes knocking on their door to do anything about it?
00:41:26.300So there were some signs of kind of natural reaction, natural anticipation of the new administration.
00:41:36.580This isn't quite government actors, but there was a 90 percent drop in DEI language among federal grant applicants.
00:41:46.260Now, that might also be, you know, applicants who are just compiling what they're actually doing and they're removing that language because it previously would have been beneficial.
00:41:55.680Now it's detrimental to them. They're just kind of acting in their own self-interest.
00:41:59.300But there is some preliminary data that governments and other actors are responding to these incentives. And when it comes to health, particularly, what happened was pretty interesting. I mentioned these two cases against the Minnesota Department of Health and against the state of Illinois.
00:42:20.180what happened was that after opening the DOJ Civil Rights Division review, so they did already
00:42:27.180start engaging, they managed to get the racial set-asides from these programs removed. Now,
00:42:33.760they didn't have to escalate to the point of actually cutting off the federal Medicaid funding.
00:42:37.900So they basically said, you know, you guys, you know what you're doing is illegal here, right?
00:42:42.160And they said, well, our bad, I guess we'll have to stop doing it.
00:42:45.740well i appreciate you going after these stories like i said i think that the right really needs
00:42:54.160um just the ability to drill down and find all of these examples and we are not getting enough
00:43:01.540of them and so uh you know you guys utilizing artificial intelligence in this way to create
00:43:07.000this opportunity i think is very important and guys this is you know a lot of people ask me
00:43:12.080what can I do? I'm just some guy. What can I do? And maybe you can't write AI prompts. Maybe you're
00:43:19.660not great at developing that technology. But remember that citizen journalism is more powerful
00:43:25.020than it's ever been. If you're a guy with the ability to do an internet search and a cell phone
00:43:30.480camera, you can break stories. You really can. And we're just without manpower. So get out there
00:43:37.540and try to figure out what's going on in your community.