The Auron MacIntyre Show - John Oliver Thinks the Government Owns Your Kids ｜ 10⧸30⧸23

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00:00:37.360 So, John Oliver is somebody who, you know, he's been funny in a few things.

00:00:43.540 He was funny in Community.

00:00:45.420 He has some acting roles where he's funny.

00:00:48.600 But obviously, he kind of grew big.

00:00:51.280 He got a name for himself as part of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

00:00:55.120 And I've been talking about some of these comedians, some of these guys

00:00:58.720 like Jon Stewart, like Bill Maher, like Jon Oliver, and kind of explaining some of the problems that they have.

00:01:06.600 Now, Jon Oliver is going to be a little different.

00:01:08.940 So, Bill Maher is kind of the closest thing to somebody who's trying to tell some truth sometimes, right?

00:01:14.280 I've made my case multiple times.

00:01:16.760 This is not somebody you should trust.

00:01:18.780 He's not really on your side.

00:01:20.080 He's not part of your team.

00:01:21.440 However, he will tell some truth to power every once in a while, try to get some credibility, that kind of thing.

00:01:27.900 And then we had Jon Stewart last week.

00:01:29.980 And I did that episode talking about kind of why his show declined.

00:01:33.720 I mean, most people didn't even know that it kind of existed.

00:01:36.460 That was probably the most common comment is, Jon Stewart had another show.

00:01:39.980 I hadn't even realized that.

00:01:41.360 But kind of that his time had come and gone.

00:01:43.440 And that was just part of the cycle of, you know, his time in politics was really that late 90s, early 2000s look at kind of cynical political infotainment.

00:01:57.480 And that had kind of passed him by.

00:01:59.520 And now he was doing a bunch of struggle sessions and things on television that were just really painful.

00:02:04.840 And it was probably best that he kind of just buried that show when he had the option, when Apple kind of said, no, we want you to we don't want you to criticize China.

00:02:12.880 We don't want to do these things like, oh, it's a good time to step away.

00:02:15.840 Well, now we have John Oliver and John Oliver is somebody who basically just kind of carried the Daily Show format forward.

00:02:25.240 Yes, technically, Trevor Noah is doing the Daily Show for like five people, I guess, on Comedy Central.

00:02:30.660 I don't know, maybe he gets better ratings than that, but I don't know anybody who's ever watched a Trevor Noah kind of Daily Show and enjoyed it.

00:02:37.920 And so kind of the real heir apparent, somebody who was on the show while Jon Stewart was there was John Oliver.

00:02:44.700 And Oliver has been doing his show over on HBO.

00:02:47.860 Part of them kind of these different people adopting the streaming format and picking up these different late night shows, you know, that that spun off from the Daily Show.

00:02:57.400 So his is arguably the most successful post-Daily Show version of this, sticking to the same format.

00:03:03.900 Obviously, Samantha Bee was a disaster. 1.00

00:03:06.220 He's probably the one that's probably best, best continuing that tradition.

00:03:12.040 His big thing is supposed to be deep dives.

00:03:16.000 That's what's supposed to make John Oliver's show different.

00:03:18.780 He does these big in-depth pieces.

00:03:20.820 It's not just these kind of quick rundown of the news, make a quip thing.

00:03:24.920 I mean, though he does that as part of the show as well, but he does these larger overarching deep dives into what's going on.

00:03:32.560 And that's a big part of kind of his style, what's supposed to set him apart.

00:03:37.440 So he did one recently on homeschooling, and it was rather comedic.

00:03:41.720 Not for the reasons he would hope, not because Jon Oliver was actually funny intentionally, but because of how ridiculous his assertions were during this.

00:03:53.040 So I'm going to go ahead and run through this, guys.

00:03:55.620 I want to show you a little bit of what is happening here.

00:03:58.340 I had to cut it down because, again, he does these deep dives.

00:04:00.980 They're like 25, 30 minutes.

00:04:03.080 And most of what I cut was honestly John Oliver just not being funny.

00:04:06.440 It's amazing that a professional comedian did a 25-minute bit, and I think I almost chuckled one time, you know?

00:04:12.660 And so it's not very effective comedically in that sense.

00:04:16.620 But there were some things that were absurd about it that I wanted to go ahead and run down.

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00:06:06.860 All right, so back to homeschooling.

00:06:09.020 So why is John Oliver going to do a segment on homeschooling, the dangers of homeschooling?

00:06:14.260 I mean, really, how dangerous could this be?

00:06:17.260 But you actually want to pay attention to this because there is a very real understanding, I think, by a lot of people who are part of the ruling elite that homeschooling is going to be a real threat.

00:06:28.920 Don't get me wrong, they've kind of always known this to some extent, but it's becoming increasingly clear how bad public schools are at the job.

00:06:36.100 They're absolutely terrible, and they're full of horrific indoctrination.

00:06:41.440 People know this, they want to take action, they want to do something.

00:06:44.600 But it's increasingly important that kids get more and more government education because they need more and more propaganda.

00:06:50.700 You have this deeply unnatural system, this deeply unnatural set of expectations that you're looking to inculcate into kids.

00:06:59.420 You're trying to warp their expectations of all kind of things.

00:07:01.940 You want to separate them from parents.

00:07:03.640 You want to separate them from faith. 0.93

00:07:05.960 You want to separate them from real history.

00:07:08.380 And so you have to constantly just keep them in this flow of propaganda.

00:07:13.920 And homeschooling is a big problem because it pulls people out of that, and that's a real issue.

00:07:18.880 So you're going to watch this with me a little bit.

00:07:21.160 And what you're going to notice for John Oliver is that the main issue is not homeschooling in general.

00:07:28.260 He's actually going to take the very nuanced position that there is good homeschooling.

00:07:33.040 But you'll notice very specifically who he thinks it's okay to be homeschooling and who he thinks have to be put back into the public school system.

00:07:43.820 And, well, I'll give you a little hint.

00:07:46.600 Part of it's on the screen.

00:07:47.860 You're going to notice a trend that he's going to make over and over again.

00:07:51.440 I cut out the part where he's praising this family that taught their kids to wrap the ABCs.

00:07:57.740 And, you know, full credit to them.

00:08:00.400 I'm glad to see parents taking an interest in their parents' education, especially during the pandemic and all the lockdowns and everything.

00:08:07.980 People who are actually involving themselves in that remote education of the children I actually taught during that time.

00:08:13.720 It was a very challenging time to be a teacher, a very challenging time to actually have kids learn anything.

00:08:20.180 So full credit to them.

00:08:21.600 But you're going to notice there's a particular thing that he highlights over and over again that says it's okay to homeschool kids that are like this, but not like this.

00:08:30.520 I think it will become pretty obvious pretty quickly, but let's go ahead and start the clip.

00:08:34.860 But for some, homeschooling isn't just a pandemic-era necessity, it's a way of life.

00:08:39.740 And you may have heard a stereotype of homeschoolers being Christian conservatives who object to what kids learn in public school environments.

00:08:47.420 And I admit, those people do exist.

00:08:49.980 Take this man who offers this pretty shaky rationalization for pulling his kid out of school. 0.98

00:08:54.160 I think the type of content on what they're teaching about sex or anal sex that my third-grade daughter should not be in a classroom where a teacher or someone else is teaching her about that. 0.99

00:09:08.460 So this is framed as ridiculous, right? 0.98

00:09:11.720 That's the whole point of this at the beginning. 0.86

00:09:13.600 Oh, this is a really shaky reason to homeschool your children because you don't agree with what?

00:09:20.500 The values being taught?

00:09:21.760 That seems like an excellent reason, actually, to pull your kid out of school and homeschool your child.

00:09:28.020 And, of course, they dropped the laugh track in here, right?

00:09:30.460 Because you put that canned laughter in there to make it feel like this vice interview is insane.

00:09:35.620 I mean, look at this guy.

00:09:36.420 He's got, like, a beard and a backwards camo hat or something.

00:09:39.480 He can't be a serious person.

00:09:41.340 And so the idea here is this is an insane concern.

00:09:45.020 This is something that you would not want to remove your children from school for.

00:09:48.480 Now, you'll see the reasons he thinks are legitimate, but it's very obvious that this is a legitimate reason.

00:09:54.380 You disagree with the morality being portrayed at school.

00:09:58.300 So, obviously, you want to take action as a concerned parent and remove your child from that environment.

00:10:04.040 That's awesome.

00:10:05.700 That's not a problem.

00:10:06.960 That's taking agency.

00:10:08.480 That's actually what you want to see as a former educator.

00:10:12.600 I loved parents that actually questioned what was being taught in a classroom because that meant they cared about their kids.

00:10:18.660 I taught in really bad schools, and none of the parents really cared about their kids.

00:10:23.140 And so the rare time that I had parents come to me and be like, hey, I disagree with something being taught in your classroom.

00:10:31.500 I'm concerned that something isn't being taught in your classroom.

00:10:33.740 I was like, that's amazing. 0.97

00:10:34.980 I'm so glad to have some parent who gave a crap about their kid come to me. 0.96

00:10:40.080 That's not a burden. 0.98

00:10:41.640 That's a blessing.

00:10:42.920 But, of course, that's not what they want here, right?

00:10:45.220 They want soft, compliant parents who are just going to shuttle their kids off to absorb whatever propaganda. 0.99

00:10:51.400 That was your experience in school?

00:10:53.420 I threw through friends in other spots that hadn't been kids at those ages because mine was only in first grade when we pulled them. 0.99

00:11:01.440 Well, that sounds like total bullshit. 0.97

00:11:04.520 Although, I guess I do basically agree with him there. 0.98

00:11:06.900 Things that are definitely not happening should continue not to happen. 0.96

00:11:11.380 So, John Oliver is just a liar. 0.55

00:11:13.260 That's all there is to it. 1.00

00:11:14.980 He's just a liar here. 0.98

00:11:16.500 He's obviously lying. 1.00

00:11:17.740 We all know he's lying.

00:11:19.460 The evidence is everywhere.

00:11:21.240 And if there was any shred of honesty involved in his presentation, there's a million places he could go.

00:11:27.380 We know that there is curricula where this is being introduced to young children.

00:11:31.780 We know that there is evidence of teachers teaching, you know, first, second graders things about masturbation, things about sexual practices that are entirely inappropriate.

00:11:40.760 We know that there are videos from libs of TikTok with teachers of young children talking about how they interject this stuff into their discussions.

00:11:50.480 And we know for sure that the Democrats, that the left, hated Ron DeSantis for putting his bill in that protected children in third grade or lower.

00:12:01.580 So, he specifically says, well, third grade, this is when this is allowed to take place.

00:12:06.680 The left went nuts when Florida tried to protect kids in third grade.

00:12:11.040 So, there's a specific reference point.

00:12:13.840 The left has already opposed the protection of children at this age from this exact material.

00:12:20.360 John Oliver knows this.

00:12:22.580 He 100% knows this.

00:12:24.340 He has to have researchers or writers or whatever he's calling his bootlicking lackeys.

00:12:29.360 He has to have people who could just Google this stuff in 10 seconds.

00:12:33.060 So, he knows this.

00:12:34.340 And so, he's just repeating this to an audience that he expects to be entirely ignorant of what's going on or is so thoroughly bought into his ideology that they're just going to completely, like, reprogram their brain to forget that they fought tooth and nail to get rid or to try to, you know, attack a bill and call it the don't say gay bill because it protected kids in third grade.

00:12:58.760 He knows all this.

00:12:59.880 This is all obvious. 0.97

00:13:00.680 This is just him lying, trying to make this guy look ridiculous with some canned laughter just because he's got a long beard and, you know, it doesn't look like he might have gone to Harvard. 0.96

00:13:09.420 So, you know, let's just do the canned laughter thing.

00:13:13.040 We'll chuckle and pretend that this isn't happening even though there's evidence everywhere that it is and even though we fought tooth and nail to try to prevent kids from being protected from exactly what this guy is concerned about.

00:13:25.800 You could have just passed the legislation everywhere and then it's not happening.

00:13:29.240 So, who cares if the legislation exists?

00:13:31.400 But, of course, John Oliver cares deeply if the legislation exists because he's lying and he knows it.

00:13:37.320 But the truth is, the homeschooling community is much broader than just right-wing parents afraid of hypothetical third-grade lube demonstrations.

00:13:45.660 By one estimate, there are now around two million children being homeschooled in this country and parents can choose that for all sorts of reasons.

00:13:54.000 Maybe their kids have social or health problems or disabilities that aren't being accommodated.

00:13:58.480 Maybe they're families with legitimate fears about school safety or who are in the military and move around a lot.

00:14:03.640 And there's also a growing number of black parents opting to homeschool due to whitewashed curriculums and zero-tolerance policies in schools that disproportionately criminalize their kids at an early age.

00:14:13.700 Okay, so there's a lot to unpack here.

00:14:20.240 Let's start from here and work our way backwards.

00:14:22.740 So, first, John, why would zero-tolerance policies criminalize African-American children at an early age disproportionately?

00:14:33.400 Are you going to ask that question?

00:14:35.560 Are we going to get into that at all?

00:14:37.940 Or are we just going to mention it and go, I'll spoil this for you.

00:14:41.500 He's just going to mention it and continue on.

00:14:43.320 As if there's no need to delve any deeper into that topic.

00:14:48.480 Look, I don't like zero-tolerance policies, to be really clear.

00:14:52.400 Again, as a former educator, I think there's a lot of problems with zero-tolerance policies.

00:14:56.720 They don't allow for nuance.

00:14:58.000 They don't allow for what are pretty common interactions, I think, a lot of times with certain students.

00:15:02.920 I think they are a problem.

00:15:03.980 However, the fact that John Oliver specifically points out that African-American children are disproportionately affected by this begs the question,

00:15:12.580 well, if they're a bad policy across the board, why specifically, right?

00:15:15.720 And there's only two options.

00:15:17.020 The first one is the one he's assuming you're going to think, oh, it's just racist, right?

00:15:21.180 There's just racism everywhere. 0.64

00:15:22.240 Even the most wildly progressive, wildly liberal public school is just so racist that they're disproportionately punishing black kids.

00:15:30.160 Or is there some kind of statistical reality that might reveal itself through the application of an overly stringent policy?

00:15:40.220 No, John's not going to talk about that.

00:15:42.920 We're not going to get into that.

00:15:44.100 We're just going to roll past that as if the conclusion is obvious because you're watching John Oliver,

00:15:49.880 and so he can kind of rely on that fact.

00:15:52.500 The other thing that's really obvious here is he acknowledges, okay, there are legitimate reasons why you would want to homeschool your child.

00:16:00.940 What if they have a disability?

00:16:02.160 That's a very good, legitimate reason.

00:16:04.600 You know, what if they have, you know, what if they have all these other problems?

00:16:08.020 Okay, there's a good reason. 0.94

00:16:09.260 What if they happen to be black and you don't want them learning, I guess, whitewashed history? 0.97

00:16:14.360 Well, that's the exact opposite of what's happening.

00:16:16.940 Again, having taught in public schools, I can tell you that that is most certainly not the type of curriculum that is being taught,

00:16:22.620 even in places that are supposed to be super-based like Florida.

00:16:25.860 They are wildly liberal curriculums that are completely rewriting history to make it look like, you know,

00:16:33.240 Europeans or people of European descent were the sole oppressor class throughout history and responsible for all of the people's woes. 1.00

00:16:40.960 But you'll notice, again, he's fine with people pulling their kids out of school.

00:16:45.100 He doesn't have a problem with homeschooling as long as the reason you're pulling them out is to give them better propaganda, right?

00:16:52.060 Oh, you want to teach your kids the 1619 Project in Florida instead of the Florida Standard?

00:16:57.000 Well, then you should pull them out of school, you know, so you can teach them the most insanely racially biased history, 0.58

00:17:03.720 whatever kind of cartoon that was written up by these activists.

00:17:08.460 He's fine with that.

00:17:09.360 That's not a problem.

00:17:10.100 He's only worried if it's white evangelicals taking their kids out of school.

00:17:13.560 I'll spoil that for you.

00:17:15.260 That's the actual problem he has.

00:17:18.460 He doesn't like white evangelical kids being taken out of school.

00:17:21.820 They need extra propaganda. 0.97

00:17:23.300 You can take the black kids out of school, you know, because he's just assuming they're going to get extra propaganda, I guess. 0.95

00:17:29.360 But you need to keep the white evangelical kids in public schools so that they can keep getting the propaganda. 0.96

00:17:35.440 There are lots of reasons to do it.

00:17:37.800 And the fact is, for some kids, getting to be homeschooled can be genuinely transformative.

00:17:42.960 At 15, Victoria asked her mom, Bernita, to take her out of Detroit schools.

00:17:47.720 She says she was being bullied relentlessly for her appearance, and it didn't seem like her administrators cared.

00:17:53.640 It made me not want to ask questions, you know, or not want to ask specific questions because I'm like, am I like, are they going to call me dumb?

00:18:01.900 When you transitioned to homeschooling, how did you start to feel about yourself?

00:18:05.100 I felt more confident.

00:18:06.860 It was just like a kind of like a sunshine, like the clouds opening a little bit.

00:18:11.800 That's great.

00:18:12.900 That is very nice.

00:18:14.780 And that is great.

00:18:15.800 That is actually very nice.

00:18:17.200 Look, that is the purpose that homeschooling can really serve for some people.

00:18:21.020 I get it.

00:18:21.440 A lot of people might say, well, you know, there might be some positive peer pressure towards, you know, towards, I guess, weight or whatever there.

00:18:27.600 But, look, people can be really cruel.

00:18:30.100 Kids can be incredibly cruel, especially in public schools, man.

00:18:33.520 Again, I have taught at bad schools, and I have seen good, intelligent kids get entirely shut down because they're in terrible classroom situations where they're constantly berated.

00:18:43.060 They're constantly attacked, and they would really, really, you know, benefit from getting out of that environment.

00:18:48.120 I've seen them pulled out of bad classes, put into good classes, and all of a sudden that smart kid flourishes.

00:18:52.380 They're willing to raise their hand.

00:18:53.720 They're willing to ask questions.

00:18:54.740 And sometimes a kid just needs to be able to explore things a little bit.

00:18:57.800 So I'm totally on board with this, and John should be on board with this, too, but not just for black kids. 0.99

00:19:03.480 He should be on board for this for all kids.

00:19:05.840 This should be okay for every kid, for every parent to remove their child from a toxic public school situation and homeschool them if they choose.

00:19:16.140 That should be every parent's right, and he shouldn't be here trying to scare people about the dangers of this.

00:19:21.320 He should be extolling its virtues for everyone, not just the people who happen to share the shade of skin that he thinks should be elevated in every situation.

00:19:30.940 Because to an extent that you may not realize, in many parts of the country, homeschooling is essentially unregulated, which can result in enormous damage.

00:19:38.340 So given that, tonight, oh boy, guys, unregulated homeschoolers.

00:19:42.940 Sorry, you got a license for that homeschool over there?

00:19:45.460 Yeah, I mean, okay.

00:19:46.780 So you didn't go to a college of education for four to six years, acquire a bunch of HR diversity certificates, and then get down so you can not teach children to read, like happens in almost every public school.

00:20:01.300 So again, I didn't get a teaching degree, I was a teacher, but I had to go back and complete a teaching kind of like certificate to attach to my normal degree.

00:20:09.120 So I didn't go to a school of education, but I did take education classes in college.

00:20:13.700 And I can tell you they were pretty much uniformly useless.

00:20:16.320 They didn't teach you anything of value at all.

00:20:19.040 I learned plenty of important things about educating children on the job.

00:20:22.660 As somebody who had a background in politics and taught politics in history, I used my background, I learned the things that were happening actually in the classroom, and from other teachers who had learned valuable things, and I applied them.

00:20:36.040 That's real technique.

00:20:37.600 I'm sorry, but you don't need any kind of magic voodoo to be able to teach a child to read for the most part.

00:20:42.480 I'm sorry that these unregulated homeschoolers running around are scaring you, but they'll be just fine, I promise.

00:20:48.980 Let's take a look at homeschooling.

00:20:50.900 And let's start with the fact that there is a lot that we don't know about homeschooled kids, from exactly how many there are to what they are learning.

00:20:57.500 When I said there are around 2 million of them, the reason that's an estimate is that, depending on the state, homeschooled families might not have to report what they are doing at all.

00:21:06.620 In these 26 states, parents simply have to file a notice once a year with officials to let them know that they are homeschooling their child.

00:21:12.780 In these 13, they only have to file a notice once with no requirement to check in ever again.

00:21:18.740 And in the remaining 11, they don't have to notify anyone at all.

00:21:23.240 And when it comes to the education itself...

00:21:24.740 Yeah, so, oh no, these parents are, you know, they only have to notify the state that they've made the decision to homeschool their kids, and that's some terrible thing.

00:21:34.660 Look, this was the default assumption for pretty much all of human history, up until like 100 years ago or even less.

00:21:42.780 It was the default assumption that the parent was the primary educator of their child.

00:21:47.760 If you were wealthy and you were very lucky, you might be able to pay a tutor or a teacher or a tutor.

00:21:53.500 You might be able to send your kid to a boarding school or even a university if you were incredibly lucky.

00:21:59.520 You know, and if you lived in an incredibly wealthy country, maybe they might have some rudimentary public education.

00:22:07.520 But it was assumed that the parent was the primary educator of their child in pretty much every situation.

00:22:13.880 The idea that the parent would need to seek approval regularly and observation regularly from the state is an insane, massive explosion of government power.

00:22:26.780 This is just an insane intrusion of government into the private sphere, into the home.

00:22:34.080 And this is why public education is, again, so important to these people.

00:22:37.940 They understand they must destroy the family.

00:22:40.940 They must destroy the bond between parent and child.

00:22:43.320 They must destroy the expectation that parents are the main leaders in the household.

00:22:49.400 And the best way to do that is to remove the child from the household as often as possible,

00:22:53.420 put as many intermediaries between the parent and the child, as many experts as they can,

00:22:58.460 to make sure that the parent does not have the say.

00:23:00.680 And that's what Oliver is trying to say here.

00:23:02.460 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:23:03.600 Is there a possibility for abuse here?

00:23:05.720 Yes, and he will get into that.

00:23:07.380 But of course there's possibility of abuse.

00:23:09.040 Sadly, tragically, in our fallen world, there is always a possibility for abuse.

00:23:14.980 It's horrible.

00:23:16.200 I decry it every moment.

00:23:18.260 I'm known for this.

00:23:19.760 However, we just have to realize this is a truth, that this will always exist.

00:23:23.440 And of course it exists in public schools.

00:23:25.520 Children are very, very often abused in public schools.

00:23:28.980 In fact, if you look per capita, it's way more than, say, kids by Catholic priesthood in the Catholic church.

00:23:34.980 People do not understand the disproportionality of how often children are abused in public schools.

00:23:41.440 But again, we're going to ignore all of that.

00:23:43.040 And we're just going to assume that parents are somehow dangerous if they aren't regulated by the state.

00:23:48.240 Filing a notice is typically where supervision stops.

00:23:50.740 As in most states, there is no oversight and no evaluation by anyone of the academic program and of students' progress.

00:23:58.700 And homeschooling advocates will tell you that that is not a concern.

00:24:01.360 And the parents will simply come up with all sorts of innovative ways to teach their kids.

00:24:06.500 Yeah, that's actually not a concern.

00:24:08.800 Yes, again, as somebody who taught in public schools for a number of years,

00:24:13.940 I can tell you the state is terrible at evaluating the progress of children in schools.

00:24:18.800 They are horrible at it. 0.87

00:24:20.760 They have ridiculous standardized tests that are wildly inaccurate. 0.96

00:24:24.740 They specifically teach children to the test. 0.82

00:24:27.180 I will never forget this moment.

00:24:28.900 I was sitting in a staff meeting, and a principal knew the objection that was coming from what they were saying.

00:24:34.740 They said, you're probably going to say, but principal, why are we teaching everybody just to the test?

00:24:41.980 Everything that they need to know is not on the test.

00:24:43.980 The test is not a good indicator of their performance.

00:24:45.700 And she said, yes, I know, but it's the thing they need the pass to go to the next level and get out of here.

00:24:51.580 So that's what we're teaching.

00:24:52.640 She said that straight up.

00:24:54.300 She didn't hesitate.

00:24:55.980 She didn't gild the lily on that.

00:24:57.920 She held a room full of professional educators.

00:25:00.580 You know, not like, oh, we're fighting.

00:25:02.160 This wasn't, you know, this wasn't, oh, captain, my captain.

00:25:05.420 We're fighting for the soul of the children.

00:25:07.680 You know, none of this.

00:25:09.660 It was just, we teach the test because the test is the way we get paid and the way we move kids out of the school.

00:25:15.820 So, oh, no, the state won't be checking the progress of these children.

00:25:18.960 Well, guess what? 0.98

00:25:19.660 They're crap at it anyway, so it's no big loss. 0.96

00:25:22.500 Here is one parent enthusiastically explaining how he taught his kids science. 0.99

00:25:26.480 I can't tell you how many times, you know, in my home, in our kitchen table, we've dissected, you know, sheep eyeballs or frogs.

00:25:35.280 Kitchen, kitchens are great labs for this kind of thing. 0.73

00:25:38.960 Where does somebody, where does somebody get a sheep eyeball?

00:25:42.660 Well, John, you can just Google sheep eyeball for homeschoolers.

00:25:46.120 I didn't know that.

00:25:46.600 There's lots of people.

00:25:47.460 Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:48.900 Okay.

00:25:49.760 First, are kitchens the best lab for this kind of thing?

00:25:54.000 I think probably labs are the best lab for this kind of thing.

00:25:58.220 Again, amazing how unfunny John Oliver is just on a regular basis.

00:26:02.660 The only reason you even know something is supposed to be a joke is they play the laugh track behind it.

00:26:07.440 But, yeah, the whole point of this segment is, ooh, look at the kooky guy having his kid do the same science experiment but at home.

00:26:14.640 Oh, you have to have a lab.

00:26:16.060 Why?

00:26:16.820 Why?

00:26:17.320 Why do you need that?

00:26:18.100 Well, because if you need a lab, then it facilitates the experts and the buildings and everything else that builds out this actual democratic machine, this leftist patronage network, and, of course, propagandize your kids at the same time.

00:26:36.940 But, of course, you don't need any of that stuff.

00:26:38.320 Of course, you can do this stuff at home.

00:26:39.680 Of course, the supervision of a parent is a way more interesting and way more effective way of having a child learn this lesson than making them one of 32 kids waiting around hoping that a teacher might walk by and tell them something important.

00:26:54.660 Like, obviously, that one-on-one interaction with that parent and his child is way better for that child than having them go to some public school lab somewhere where they'll be lucky if they even do something like this.

00:27:08.160 But play it up for laughs, you know, play the laugh track, make it sound absurd, even though it's just obviously what a loving parent should be able to do if they can.

00:27:16.880 That is why there are big publishers who offer materials specifically tailored to homeschoolers.

00:27:21.960 And much of that market is dominated by these three Christian textbook publishers who promise learning through a biblical filter.

00:27:29.140 And here's the real problem.

00:27:31.100 Here's the real problem.

00:27:32.780 Textbooks from the wrong people.

00:27:34.840 You might learn the wrong things.

00:27:36.460 You might not get the government-approved line.

00:27:37.900 Look, it is absolutely a parent's right to educate their child with religion if they so choose.

00:27:44.620 And again, John Oliver just doesn't believe that at all. 0.99

00:27:47.140 He's a liar. 0.96

00:27:47.700 He doesn't believe that at all. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Every problem he raises, every problem he raises in this constantly is about white evangelical parents raising their children. 0.67

00:27:59.580 That's always his problem.

00:28:01.320 He doesn't have a problem with, you know, people being pulled out of school for any other reason.

00:28:05.660 But that is consistently the issue he raises in this.

00:28:10.000 These are the people he makes fun of.

00:28:12.020 These are the people he attacks. 0.98

00:28:13.300 Every good example he shows is a black child who was pulled out of school. 1.00

00:28:17.340 And every bad example he shows was a white child pulled out of school.

00:28:21.300 And the specific problem he states almost entirely is that they are getting Christianity instead of the current public education drip feed going directly into their veins.

00:28:31.540 So he doesn't believe that it's okay for someone to raise their children with Christianity.

00:28:36.420 And that's basically the whole point of this segment.

00:28:39.060 But the quality of some of these books can be troubling.

00:28:43.060 For instance, one current Abeka history book says that the beginning of the 20th century witnessed a cultural breakdown that threatened to destroy the very roots of Western civilization.

00:28:50.920 The cause of this dissolution was no idea or philosophy known as liberalism.

00:28:56.440 Wow.

00:28:57.060 Okay.

00:28:57.740 Based.

00:28:58.400 Based, based, based, based, based.

00:29:00.380 Go get this book for your children immediately.

00:29:04.320 If this is a real, like, this is a real history text, immediately purchase this.

00:29:08.760 Yes.

00:29:09.460 100%.

00:29:10.140 Meanwhile, a workbook from ACE celebrates the Confederate General Robert E. Lee as a devoted Christian who practiced his Christianity in all his dealings with others.

00:29:19.460 Again, yeah, okay.

00:29:21.520 So Robert E. Lee, well-known, actually is a good person, even though he ended up on the wrong side of the war for a lot of people, right?

00:29:29.720 This is, this is something that's well-known.

00:29:31.200 Of course, they just melted down this statue.

00:29:32.780 I'm going to be talking with Lafayette Lee on Wednesday about this more in depth.

00:29:37.200 But he made this joke before that happened, so I probably didn't understand how it was going to play.

00:29:41.400 But yeah, no, this is, this is, again, something that was well-known and celebrated by most people before, you know, we, we decided to reset the country at year zero.

00:29:50.260 A lot of people forget that a really critical part of the Civil War was the reconciliation.

00:29:56.660 And part of the reason America was able to come back together, it was able to find a shared identity by saying the people of the South were not evil, they disagreed about something, and we can heal.

00:30:07.800 These people are still noble.

00:30:09.000 These people are still part of America.

00:30:10.760 But we decided to forget that a few years ago, and we decided to tear down all the statues.

00:30:14.680 We decided that we were going to, we're going to rewrite the history books. 0.64

00:30:17.160 And instead, it's just everybody in the South was always just a horrifically evil racist. 1.00

00:30:21.400 Everyone was stupid. 1.00

00:30:22.140 Everyone was bad. 1.00

00:30:23.080 There was no honor. 0.99

00:30:23.780 They were all traitors, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:25.580 And, and that's the new history. 0.95

00:30:26.860 And so the fact that this book reflects the view of the Civil War that existed for pretty much everyone until 10, 15 years ago makes it ridiculous.

00:30:35.760 And a science book from Bob Jones University claims that biblical and scientific evidence tends to support the idea that men and dinosaurs existed at the same time.

00:30:44.940 And if you're wondering what that would look like, ACE actually had a workbook featuring this rendering,

00:30:50.200 implying that not only did men and dinosaurs exist at the same time, but they were totally cool with each other.

00:30:57.000 But while all of that is pretty troubling, the truth is, in many states, the rules and oversight can be so lax, parents don't ultimately have to teach their kids anything at all.

00:31:07.860 Just watch as this former homeschool student breaks down her daily schedule. 1.00

00:31:11.360 So first, I'm glad we're going to TikTok for this, right?

00:31:37.660 We're going to, we're going to, we're going to pull up a video on TikTok and this is going to, this is going to reflect homeschooling in general.

00:31:43.780 Again, we're not picking here, right?

00:31:45.340 We just, we find a couple of crazy examples.

00:31:47.860 Second, obviously there was a homeschooling fail here.

00:31:50.940 You could just kind of see that on the screen, right?

00:31:53.680 Like something did not get transferred to the homeschooling did not go well.

00:31:57.720 Third, interesting.

00:31:58.620 We're listing kind of all these things like Bible reading as if they're crazy, but anyway, we'll go on here.

00:32:04.060 You'll see there's more net, not picking to be had mostly hymns.

00:32:07.800 We've got exercise.

00:32:08.900 That's good.

00:32:09.920 It was usually just walking around the block.

00:32:12.860 Um, and then the whole entire rest of the list is chores and cleaning tasks.

00:32:21.440 It's true.

00:32:22.760 Most of our lessons just involve chores and just look at that list.

00:32:26.980 Although I will say even that is a preferable alternative to the single worst homeschool curriculum that we found.

00:32:33.320 Whose creators excitedly promoted it on a podcast.

00:32:37.160 We are so deeply invested into making sure that that child becomes a wonderful Nazi. 0.90

00:32:47.080 And by homeschooling, we're going to get that done.

00:32:50.460 Well.

00:32:51.420 Yeah.

00:32:52.140 So surprise, right?

00:32:54.160 He finds a person somewhere who says this, and this is now all homeschoolers.

00:32:59.680 And this is the whole point, right?

00:33:00.860 We grab two examples.

00:33:02.760 We say, this is what homeschooling is, especially among white evangelical kids.

00:33:08.340 It's just a Nazi factory or, or, or for, for parents who just want to have their kids listen to the Bible for an hour a day and call it a lesson. 0.68

00:33:15.560 That that's the idea is we just, we just take this broad brush and that's everything.

00:33:20.000 We found two people who did this.

00:33:21.920 Luckily, I've never seen anything taught in a public school that was outlandish.

00:33:25.920 Luckily, I've never, there's no abuse in public schools.

00:33:28.100 Luckily, public schools are just the citadels of learning where everyone magic.

00:33:31.440 Oh no, wait, none of that is true.

00:33:33.480 Kids learn horrific, terrible things in, in public schools.

00:33:37.740 They, they learn them in mass instead of one or two crazies out there, right?

00:33:42.940 But this is what he's going to do.

00:33:44.180 He's going to find a couple of, a couple of incredibly rare, incredibly obscure instances and say, this is, and this is the whole point of the segment is to say, this is the danger of homeschooling. 0.54

00:33:56.400 If we don't grab every white evangelical kid and pull them out of their home and force them to go to school, they will all turn into secret Nazis. 0.95

00:34:04.100 That's what he's trying to say. 0.99

00:34:05.340 It's very clear.

00:34:06.000 That's his agenda.

00:34:06.880 And you can see this throughout the whole clip.

00:34:09.060 That is terrifying.

00:34:10.820 Because when it comes to homeschooling, basically anything goes. 0.97

00:34:14.200 So how the fuck is that the case? 0.88

00:34:17.860 Well, in large part, it's thanks to a very powerful homeschooling lobby whose most prominent player is the Homeschool Legal Defense Association. 0.97

00:34:25.120 That's right, guys.

00:34:26.080 Watch out.

00:34:26.740 We got big homeschooling, the most dangerous of all the lobbies, wielding untold power.

00:34:33.040 Everybody knows, you know, if you, if you, if you want to get in good in Washington, yeah, you better, you better get Raytheon under your belt and you better get the credit card agencies or the telecom agencies.

00:34:43.600 And then you better get the homeschooling lobby.

00:34:45.920 That's where the real power lies, right?

00:34:48.280 The most dangerous thing you can imagine.

00:34:50.000 What he means is it's like another thing you could call this John Oliver is a union.

00:34:55.080 It's like a union of homeschoolers that got together and tried to defend what they believed in.

00:35:00.360 But, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll kind of portray them as if they're big tobacco or something.

00:35:05.340 You know, homeschoolers, the most dangerous thing imaginable.

00:35:07.500 H-S-L-D-A. 1.00

00:35:09.000 And here is where I will concede some ground because it grew out in an environment that was, in many places, overly restrictive of homeschooling with some states and local school districts effectively banning it entirely.

00:35:21.200 And from the very beginning, it had a strong evangelical conservative outlook.

00:35:26.200 So there it is, right?

00:35:27.940 So, and, and to be fair, I, I clipped a bit there because he went into the details of, of kind of places where it was banned.

00:35:33.660 It was actually banned in, in, in Texas in the eighties.

00:35:36.160 So credit to him for, for explaining some of that, but I clipped it because it would have just been a long, uh, explaining or there.

00:35:41.840 Uh, but yeah, he acknowledges to his credit, the reason this exists, right?

00:35:48.160 It's not some crazy high powered lobby that, that, uh, you know, uh, buys and owns politicians.

00:35:55.660 It's something that parents legitimately needed to fight back against the power of the state, which should be, this guy is warning at the, about the power of the state.

00:36:03.420 That's what I love about this, right?

00:36:04.840 One side out of one side of the mouth.

00:36:06.540 He's like, well, I mean, black parents have to pull their kids out of school because, uh, you know, they, they, they could be, uh, criminalized or they could be taught this whitewashed version of history. 0.70

00:36:17.140 However, no one else should pull their, their kids out of school because the state suddenly becomes a beneficent and suddenly, suddenly becomes, uh, you know, this, this do-gooder when it comes to everybody else.

00:36:27.840 And so the state is probably, you know, simultaneously this dangerous thing that you have to watch out for if you're one shade, but if you're another shade, it's actually this, 0.83

00:36:36.420 uh, amazing thing that, that is the only thing that can actually teach you anything and pulling your children out is, of that is a problem.

00:36:43.800 So like he acknowledges, okay, the state was overbearing in this issue, but his main problem is of course, not that this organization exists or even that it fights for parents.

00:36:53.240 His problem is that it's evangelical and that most kids who are homeschooled are evangelical.

00:36:59.980 We know this.

00:37:00.520 It's obvious you run into homeschool kids.

00:37:02.380 You know, that's the case.

00:37:03.040 They're mostly evangelical Christians and that's his real problem. 1.00

00:37:06.700 His real problem is not that homeschooling exists.

00:37:09.240 It's not that it exists for certain groups.

00:37:10.860 It's that it exists for one group, especially evangelical Christians or white evangelicals.

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00:37:46.520 Its founding president and chairman, Michael Farris, has referred to public schools as a godless monstrosity.

00:37:53.020 And here he is.

00:37:53.940 Based.

00:37:54.760 Based.

00:37:55.480 Been to public schools.

00:37:57.400 Went to public schools.

00:37:58.160 Taught in public schools.

00:37:59.060 That is correct.

00:37:59.540 Back in 2004, speaking to the Christian Coalition and describing his long-term hopes for the next generation.

00:38:05.940 Today, it is not preposterous to recognize what's going on.

00:38:09.380 The promotion of homosexuality, the promotion of other kinds of things that you heard from Walter Jones,

00:38:13.820 and you've heard many other times, is a deplorable reality that we cannot countenance.

00:38:20.740 I can't wait.

00:38:21.300 Again, just things that he's predicting that ended up being true.

00:38:26.360 Again, you can go to Libs of Tiptock, watch that feed, see a ton of teachers, just hundreds of teachers, thousands of teachers,

00:38:34.960 you know, forcing gay pride plagues into their classroom. 0.93

00:38:38.360 Everything he's saying here is true.

00:38:39.640 You might think it's absurd that he's objecting to it because of your moral stance on it, but he's not saying anything that was false.

00:38:46.240 You just, it's the celebration parallax, right?

00:38:48.700 He's only allowed to notice it if he's celebrating.

00:38:50.360 Wait for the day when our young people vanquish the enemy by a 5-4 vote, reversing Roe vs. Wade. 0.57

00:38:58.660 And, um...

00:39:01.360 When we vanquish the specter of same-sex marriage, that's the standard of victory. 1.00

00:39:12.260 Over the years, the...

00:39:13.420 So again, the problem with this guy is he got some victories, I guess?

00:39:18.140 Like, he predicted the future, and then he took steps, and some of them worked.

00:39:22.480 Like, obviously, he didn't get everything he was talking about.

00:39:24.600 But the whole reason that he puts them up there is a very scary thing,

00:39:27.840 is he just repeats a conservative Christian political agenda.

00:39:31.460 You may not agree with that agenda, but it's not radical.

00:39:34.380 It's not crazy.

00:39:35.460 It's something that half the country, or far more than half the country,

00:39:39.060 believe for a very long time, half the country about still does.

00:39:42.640 Nothing about this is insane, except that you put a laugh track behind it.

00:39:45.380 HSLDA has lobbied extensively from a hard-right perspective on issues

00:39:49.600 that have nothing to do with homeschooling,

00:39:52.540 opposing everything from vaccine mandates to same-sex marriage.

00:39:56.140 Okay, again, so vaccine mandates are just bad, so good on them.

00:40:02.220 Also, of course they oppose same-sex marriage.

00:40:05.320 It's a predominantly evangelical Christian, as you said.

00:40:09.320 This is what they oppose.

00:40:10.780 If you don't like that, that's fine.

00:40:12.380 That doesn't make them scary.

00:40:13.840 That makes them different, right?

00:40:16.280 That makes them have a different political opinion.

00:40:18.420 But, of course, that's where we are right now.

00:40:19.880 We are accelerating into this point where anyone having any differing political opinion

00:40:25.100 is a threat.

00:40:26.460 And that's what John Oliver is doing here.

00:40:29.160 He's trying to frame anyone who might pull their kids out of the system

00:40:32.880 so they can learn an alternative to what is being taught.

00:40:36.480 He is saying they are a threat.

00:40:38.140 They are a threat.

00:40:38.980 They have to be regulated. 0.95

00:40:40.200 They're probably secret Nazis. 0.94

00:40:41.740 We've got to get their kids out of there. 0.92

00:40:43.160 This is critical.

00:40:44.540 It speaks to how significant a force it is that even some parents who are uneasy with

00:40:49.060 its political leanings feel that they have no choice but to be members.

00:40:53.040 Here is one mom who started a homeschooling group to offer an alternative to what she saw

00:40:57.160 as a whitewashed curriculum, talking about her relationship to the HSLDA.

00:41:02.220 Again, this is beautiful.

00:41:03.680 You'll notice there's only one type of person who's allowed to pull their kid out of school.

00:41:08.280 Legitimately, they all share a particular trait.

00:41:10.820 He's the one putting them on screen.

00:41:12.740 He's the one selecting them, not me.

00:41:14.540 It's the only reason he sees anyone as legitimate for pulling their kids out of public education.

00:41:19.800 However, he's saying, okay, well, this parent pulled their child out because they wanted to treat them something different,

00:41:25.640 but they still have to use the services of a lobby they don't agree with.

00:41:30.040 Welcome to the party.

00:41:31.160 Whenever there's a threat in any particular state to their right to homeschool, oh, you will see us come together.

00:41:38.080 You know, it may not, we're not going to stay together, but we will band up because we all desperately need our right to homeschool.

00:41:46.420 And that's the nuanced aspect of being in the homeschool world.

00:41:49.940 The people that you have to work with in order to maintain what you hold dear are also the people who crush you.

00:41:59.900 It's true.

00:42:01.940 It's true.

00:42:03.340 It's not that true.

00:42:04.360 Sorry, it's totally normal for people in political coalitions, especially when they're lobbying across a specific area, to not agree on everything.

00:42:14.520 You don't have to ideologically agree on everything.

00:42:17.680 And actually, not only do you not have to ideologically agree on everything, you'll notice what's more important to her.

00:42:22.740 It's more important to keep her kid out of a government school than to have the people she's working with agree with her politically on other issues. 0.98

00:42:29.100 Because she knows how bad the government school is.

00:42:31.220 She knows how dangerous the government school is. 0.56

00:42:32.940 So she's willing to sacrifice these theoretical ideological differences for the very real and tangible benefit of improving and protecting the education of her child.

00:42:44.620 Because she has actual investment in her child.

00:42:47.840 She has real skin in the game. 0.99

00:42:49.040 That's her blood. 1.00

00:42:50.340 That's her child.

00:42:50.960 And so she cares more about the right to protect and rear and educate her child than she does about the political beliefs of these other people. 0.94

00:43:01.720 But that's a problem for him.

00:43:02.840 That's a scary thing.

00:43:04.880 HSLDA have made themselves so powerful.

00:43:07.460 Many parents keep working with them, even if they don't agree with everything they stand for.

00:43:12.020 Deregulating homeschooling doesn't just eliminate safeguards against parents who are bad teachers.

00:43:16.760 It also eliminates them against parents who are bad people.

00:43:20.640 All right.

00:43:21.300 So this is where it's going to get heavy, right?

00:43:23.260 Because he's going to bring in the fact that there are bad parents out there.

00:43:27.240 And he's right.

00:43:28.360 Of course, there are terrible parents out here.

00:43:31.560 Again, I've worked in public schools.

00:43:33.240 I've worked in really bad public schools where there were a lot of parents involved in drugs, neglect, abuse.

00:43:39.620 I have made those phone calls.

00:43:41.740 I have called Child Protective Services.

00:43:43.520 I've dealt with social workers.

00:43:45.120 I have been a mandatory reporter.

00:43:47.480 I understand the case he's going to make here.

00:43:49.580 But the really important thing that we're going to need to notice is where he thinks sovereignty should rest.

00:43:54.740 For all the HSLDA's talk of parental rights, it's worth remembering Elon Musk is a parent.

00:44:00.580 O.J. Simpson is a parent.

00:44:02.600 Darth Vader is such a parent.

00:44:05.620 Again, he's not very funny. 0.81

00:44:07.520 And you'll notice that Elon Musk is evil.

00:44:10.220 Okay.

00:44:10.700 He made it part of his fancy name change.

00:44:12.780 The point is, having a child does not inherently make you virtuous.

00:44:17.060 And what of the...

00:44:17.700 Yes, John, that's true.

00:44:19.280 But neither does a college degree.

00:44:22.260 Neither does state accreditation.

00:44:24.700 Neither does having some bureaucratic position.

00:44:27.660 Yeah, you're right.

00:44:28.560 Like, simply giving birth to a child or simply, you know, having a child, that does not immediately make you a good person.

00:44:34.740 But neither is being in the government.

00:44:37.080 And this is the problem, right?

00:44:38.800 We're going to get deeper into this as he goes on.

00:44:41.060 But the idea is distributing the cost, right?

00:44:45.460 He wants to distribute responsibility.

00:44:47.000 As long as there's a bunch of teachers, a bunch of social workers, a bunch of people involved, a bunch of oversight,

00:44:53.700 there won't be abuse.

00:44:54.860 But, of course, that's not true at all.

00:44:56.920 In fact, there's very commonly abuse because the responsibility is so distributed.

00:45:03.220 And if there isn't abuse, there's at very least a massive degradation in the quality of things like education.

00:45:08.680 Again, having taught in public schools, I can tell you, lots of kids get through them without learning anything at all.

00:45:14.380 It's amazing.

00:45:15.380 And so, yes, I get it.

00:45:16.760 Like, if you provide all these state oversights and you distribute the responsibility, the idea is somewhere in that line, somewhere in that chain of distributed responsibility, someone will step up.

00:45:27.960 That might make sense kind of in theory until you see it in practice, where actually people are far more likely to pass the buck because you have removed the responsibility from the parent and you distribute it across all these surrogate parents.

00:45:42.160 Because that's the action you have taken, instead of having parents become more accountable, they become less accountable.

00:45:50.840 And because they become less accountable, all of those problems transfer into the schools.

00:45:55.640 And all those problems transfer into the schools.

00:45:57.900 And even more kids are held unaccountable.

00:46:00.840 The students are, or rather the teachers and the social workers and everyone, they hold people less accountable.

00:46:06.720 They just move kids through.

00:46:07.780 They just turn a blind eye to everything.

00:46:09.780 And so, by removing that accountability from parents, you don't actually get more accountability because you distributed it into the system.

00:46:17.540 Instead, what happens is you shove all these kids who weren't parented into the system.

00:46:22.460 And then all of the teachers, the social workers, they can't do the job of parents.

00:46:26.440 They start collapsing.

00:46:28.020 All of these systems start collapsing.

00:46:30.360 Yes, it seems to make sense.

00:46:32.040 Oh, if we just have people watching these children 24-7, nothing bad can happen to them.

00:46:36.400 But that's not actually what happens.

00:46:37.520 Sorry, but getting an education degree doesn't make you a good person.

00:46:40.680 And if you're not sure about that, you can check out, like, Florida, where, like, seven, you know, like, like, like, 25-year-old women teachers are always sleeping with, like, these 13-year-old boys.

00:46:50.240 That's a common thing that happens.

00:46:51.620 They don't magically become good people when they get a teaching degree.

00:46:55.080 They're just people.

00:46:56.120 And people will, unfortunately, abuse other people.

00:46:59.000 It's horrific.

00:46:59.900 It's sad.

00:47:00.900 It's tragic.

00:47:01.360 But it's just true.

00:47:02.520 The key problems here is child welfare laws were written before homeschooling was legal in all 50 states.

00:47:10.400 So they rely heavily on the premise that a child is going to be in school and seen by other adults.

00:47:17.460 Again, so this is child welfare laws are only written when homeschools are out.

00:47:22.620 So there's this magical time, I guess, when public schooling, like, if you go back to 1890, sorry, there's not a lot of public schooling in the United States.

00:47:31.840 You know, 1920, it's not like everybody had constant supervision.

00:47:35.600 So you're really talking about this very rare moment in time between when homeschooling, you know, started to become a thing and most kids started showing up to compulsory education.

00:47:46.420 You're really only talking about 30 or 40 years.

00:47:48.940 This is not, we're not talking about going back to the Stone Age by having kids watched by their parents exclusively.

00:47:54.480 We're just talking about returning to the rest of human history and not the immediate present.

00:47:59.660 This DA explains.

00:48:01.440 A lot of child abuse gets reported through our schools.

00:48:04.240 Teachers and school administrators are mandated reporters.

00:48:08.160 So, you know, if a child comes to school with bruises or emaciated, that is a very common way that it gets reported.

00:48:15.100 Right, because the fact is teachers serve multiple functions at school in addition to education.

00:48:20.420 We could pass some...

00:48:21.660 Yeah, they do.

00:48:23.120 I mean, again, I've been in this scenario.

00:48:25.020 I know what he's talking about.

00:48:26.500 I've seen this happen in a school.

00:48:29.480 But let me tell you, there are way more students who are neglected and abused by parents who would have no interest in homeschooling them because they couldn't be bothered because they sent school kids to school to get rid of them.

00:48:42.400 Okay.

00:48:43.040 I taught at a school where a lot of parents just blocked the number of the school because they were tired of getting calls from teachers and administrators, letting them know how badly their student had behaved.

00:48:52.900 I am used to that kind of interaction with parents.

00:48:56.740 There are tons and tons and tons of parents who gladly send their kids to public school just to get rid of them.

00:49:04.620 I'm sorry, but I'm much less worried about the people who actually take the time and effort to homeschool their kids.

00:49:10.000 That doesn't mean there isn't abuse.

00:49:11.240 It doesn't mean there aren't problems.

00:49:12.680 That doesn't mean there aren't shortfalls.

00:49:14.240 But again, when we're looking at large numbers, when we're scaling up and looking at big systems, homeschooling is just better on average.

00:49:22.780 Homeschooling parents are less likely to be abusing, less likely to be doing this stuff, and they're more likely to provide quality education to their children than a bad public school.

00:49:33.260 And that's just the case.

00:49:34.480 Basic child safety protections to ensure parents can't pull their kids out of school to escape scrutiny for abuse.

00:49:40.580 A few years ago, to its credit, Georgia passed a law that requires parents who pull kids out of school for no reason to send documentation within 45 days that they are homeschooling their child or proof of attendance at another school.

00:49:54.100 If they don't do that, they're subject to a follow-up from the state.

00:49:57.620 And even this Republican Georgia state rep acknowledges that it was needed.

00:50:01.680 If the people in your world that you believe are most protective of you or torturing you or abusing you, who's going to look out for you?

00:50:11.980 I mean, I don't like government intervention in a lot of things, but the government's the only person I know of that can intervene in this kind of case to save a child.

00:50:20.160 Yeah, he's right.

00:50:22.080 Actually, he's not just right.

00:50:24.160 There are actually a lot of people who can involve themselves.

00:50:26.500 If you had robust communities, if you had functioning faith communities, you had churches, you had civic organizations, you had intergenerational families, if you had the kind of family unit and the kind of network that existed previously, again, throughout much of human history and definitely in the United States up to the last few decades, there would be lots of people involved in a child's life that could look into this.

00:50:52.280 Now, again, there is no case where everything can be perfect.

00:50:56.500 Yes, there will always be these opportunities.

00:50:58.700 And again, it is horrific and tragic when it occurs.

00:51:01.120 But the question is, who is in charge?

00:51:04.100 Right?

00:51:04.380 Who actually owns a child?

00:51:06.820 And let's be really clear.

00:51:08.680 Children are owned.

00:51:11.800 Someone has authority over a child.

00:51:14.120 Someone always has authority over a child.

00:51:16.860 Children are not autonomous beings.

00:51:18.560 They are not capable of consent.

00:51:19.940 They are not capable of making their own decisions.

00:51:22.700 They are minors because they are not held liable legally because they are not capable of doing these things on their own.

00:51:30.000 Someone will always have authority over that child.

00:51:33.940 And John Oliver thinks that the final authority has to be the state.

00:51:37.140 And he hates anybody who disagrees.

00:51:41.220 I'm sorry.

00:51:41.960 Children belong to their parents, not to the state. 0.54

00:51:44.640 That doesn't mean that there aren't legitimate reasons to step in when absolutely necessary.

00:51:49.100 But the idea that you can't homeschool your children because there has to be this 24-7 constant intervention by the state to make sure that the children are safe from their very own parents is the most totalitarian thing you can imagine.

00:52:01.140 You're completely right.

00:52:03.320 And agreeing with a staunch Republican Georgia state rep wasn't something I had on my 2023 bingo card.

00:52:09.820 I've almost got a full bingo, by the way.

00:52:11.720 I'm just waiting on you-know-who to you-know-what.

00:52:15.200 Okay, that was the only joke I actually almost heard.

00:52:17.020 I share his ambivalence about government intervention here.

00:52:19.520 I understand that involving...

00:52:20.760 No, you don't.

00:52:21.980 You do not.

00:52:22.800 You do not share his ambivalence about government intervention.

00:52:27.180 You do not.

00:52:27.900 That is a lie.

00:52:28.680 He is fine with tons of government intervention. 0.98

00:52:32.620 The only time he is skeptical of state is when it's interacting with, I guess, black children.

00:52:38.260 Otherwise, he is 100% on board with the state taking any action at any time that it deems necessary, which is why he constantly thinks that you have to have experts, that you can't teach your own child, you can't evaluate your own child's performance, you can't decide their own curriculum, you can't do science experience with them.

00:52:54.260 He has argued against parental autonomy and separation from state authority at every single instance, except if it's a black parent removing their child because they're worried there might be a whitewashed curriculum.

00:53:05.840 He's said that multiple times.

00:53:07.200 He's been explicit about it.

00:53:08.380 But now he just lies at the end because maybe he won't notice.

00:53:10.560 Social services and the government in people's personal situations poses a risk, especially to those who aren't wealthy and who aren't white.

00:53:18.740 It's not like I love the idea.

00:53:20.160 Again, you'll notice he's not unclear about the only groups that should be allowed to make these decisions.

00:53:27.380 There's only really one group that I guess is required to send their kids to school to be oversaw because maybe all those parents are abusive.

00:53:36.500 I guess there are no non-white abusive parents. 0.99

00:53:39.500 That's great news.

00:53:40.280 I wonder what the statistics are on that, John.

00:53:42.220 Nope, not going to pull that up.

00:53:43.320 I would guess.

00:53:44.040 The fear of giving the state room to poke around in people's lives or that I think our child protective services system is flawless, no notes.

00:53:50.800 We are almost definitely going to be doing a main story on CPS one day.

00:53:55.700 But it does seem like giving parents a get out of all scrutiny free, no questions asked card just isn't the answer here.

00:54:03.380 Again, we don't need to go through the last bit of this because it's more of the same.

00:54:07.760 The government is the one that should make all the decisions, at least when it comes to a specific demographic.

00:54:13.280 They have to constantly be indoctrinated. 0.95

00:54:16.860 They're probably Nazi abusers. 0.76

00:54:19.280 They can't possibly teach their children. 0.93

00:54:22.220 They have to be in school all the time or otherwise terrible things will happen to them.

00:54:25.340 And if you disagree, you're probably on their side.

00:54:27.700 Yeah, you get the idea.

00:54:29.340 All right, guys.

00:54:29.880 So that's John Oliver.

00:54:32.260 You know, a lot of people I put on Twitter.

00:54:34.980 Hey, I'm going to show John Oliver's an unfunny buffoon and let people like, yeah, but what are you going to do with the rest of the show after the first two minutes?

00:54:41.400 I know this isn't the I know this isn't the hardest of assignments that I've given myself, but I thought it was important.

00:54:47.800 I thought it was important to bring up a lot of the kind of the subtext of what he was saying here.

00:54:51.840 Refute a few things.

00:54:52.660 We'll go back, go back to some classic YouTube of, you know, the response videos of 2016 or something.

00:54:58.240 So I thought that would be fun.

00:55:00.500 But let's jump over to our super chats real quick.

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00:55:44.100 All right.

00:55:44.400 So questions of the people here.

00:55:47.160 Florida Henry for five dollars.

00:55:49.300 Let me get rid of John Oliver because he is blocking.

00:55:52.240 Uh, the questions here at this point, anyone who sends kids to public school is participating

00:55:59.120 in child abuse.

00:56:00.020 Look, I hear you.

00:56:01.320 And again, I've taught in public school, so I'm not I'm not here to sing the praises.

00:56:06.100 But I will say there's a lot of people who have to send their children to public school.

00:56:10.180 There's a lot of people who live in decent areas.

00:56:12.900 Not every public school is terrible.

00:56:14.520 There are people who put a lot of effort into their local school board to change the curriculum

00:56:20.080 and things.

00:56:20.780 So I think that's too much of a blanket statement.

00:56:24.060 But I understand what you're saying.

00:56:25.240 And if you have the option or the resources and you're worried about what's being taught

00:56:29.300 there, then that's an excellent investment of your time.

00:56:33.000 Uh, Bolero three nine three for five dollars.

00:56:34.980 John Oliver can't instruct his staff on how to make a funny late night show.

00:56:38.540 He has no business instructing us on how to teach our children.

00:56:41.060 Yeah, Bolero, I'm with you 100 percent.

00:56:43.680 This guy, again, I think he made me chuckle one time in a 30 minute segment.

00:56:48.180 He's a professional comedian on a major network.

00:56:51.640 Yeah, I think that he's probably disqualified from trying to tell us how children should get

00:56:56.340 educated.

00:56:57.120 I'm with you.

00:56:57.460 Uh, George, hey, Dukes here for four ninety nine homeschooling was once the purview of

00:57:02.600 the left.

00:57:03.080 I was partially homeschooled and grew up in Berkeley around others who were smartest people

00:57:07.060 I know.

00:57:07.400 An excellent point.

00:57:08.180 Right there used to be the people who used to be scared of what the state was teaching

00:57:11.620 was the left.

00:57:12.280 You had the hippie movement or you had kind of the more kind of this more organic movement.

00:57:16.680 They would have been far more for keeping their children out of public school, far more

00:57:20.380 worried about what the institutions were teaching them.

00:57:22.540 So we really just see that this anti homeschooling thing is just a flail to attack people who

00:57:27.200 are against the current institution.

00:57:28.680 When the institution was perceived as right, then homeschooling was left.

00:57:32.680 The institution is perceived as left.

00:57:34.220 The homeschooling is right.

00:57:35.620 Excellent point.

00:57:37.480 Homerus Lupercall, lore master of the Evergreen Terrace for five dollars.

00:57:41.960 He portrays it as a threat because it is one is a threat to the smith of power because

00:57:46.160 of monopoly on knowledge for a generation could be lost.

00:57:48.780 Absolutely.

00:57:49.480 I agree with you 100 percent, man.

00:57:50.720 That's that's right.

00:57:51.260 He treats it like a threat because it is a threat.

00:57:53.980 You know, the joke is, oh, the homeschooling lobby.

00:57:56.640 And that is a joke because obviously like these homeschooling, a lot of these don't have

00:57:59.420 a real power that that's absurd for him to assert that.

00:58:02.000 But the idea that homeschooling is itself a danger to the regime, a danger to kind of our

00:58:07.880 current liberal hegemony.

00:58:09.960 Yeah, 100 percent that that's right.

00:58:11.600 And that's why he's he's panicking about it.

00:58:14.000 So John Oliver is the pandemic.

00:58:17.780 I'm just going to be careful because I don't know what what YouTube is still doing.

00:58:21.180 Life of Brian here for five dollars, by the way.

00:58:23.160 Thank you.

00:58:23.760 John Oliver is the pandemic of political comedy of of concern to no one except the mentally 0.73

00:58:28.900 ill. 0.94

00:58:29.460 Don't test for it and you won't notice it.

00:58:31.820 Yeah, again, I know I will say this.

00:58:34.440 I think more people knew John Oliver had a show than that.

00:58:38.140 John Stewart had returned to comedy to doing a show.

00:58:41.660 But you're right, in general, people don't really pay attention to John Oliver at this

00:58:45.420 point, but probably best, I guess.

00:58:47.380 I just thought that the points were so absurd here.

00:58:49.480 And because I hit on a topic that I wanted to talk about and that I have a lot of experience

00:58:52.780 with, I thought it was worth time to run through it.

00:58:57.000 Life of Brian again here for $4.99.

00:58:58.820 Oliver would be just like C-19 if he were contagious.

00:59:04.280 Mint 20 here for five dollars.

00:59:06.240 Can't believe I used to like Oliver.

00:59:08.340 Shake my head.

00:59:09.400 I was such a cringe leftist back then.

00:59:11.660 Look, man, like I said in my in my in my Jon Stewart episode, even I as kind of a conservative

00:59:18.680 kid growing up at that time, like Jon Stewart, because it was just he was kind of funny.

00:59:23.160 At least he was kind of talented.

00:59:24.300 And it was kind of the way what everyone was talking about.

00:59:27.280 I hear you.

00:59:28.240 It's cringe.

00:59:28.960 I had an Ayn Rand phase.

00:59:30.920 We've all been there.

00:59:31.920 Don't beat yourself up too much about your Jon Oliver phase.

00:59:34.680 It's OK.

00:59:36.360 And then we've got Bolero 393 here again.

00:59:40.280 If you have a MSM TV show, are you a good person?

00:59:44.640 Yeah.

00:59:44.940 I mean, again, I'm sure there are good people somewhere on mainstream TV that that probably

00:59:50.080 occurs.

00:59:50.480 But in general, it's a pretty good indicator that that is not the case.

00:59:54.220 An excellent point to be sure.

00:59:56.120 All right, guys.

00:59:56.700 Well, I'm going to go ahead and wrap this up.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - October 30, 2023

John Oliver Thinks the Government Owns Your Kids ｜ 10⧸30⧸23

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